Congressman Fleming Opposes Government Controlled Healthcare
77Doctor Wants 'Right Kind' Of Healthcare Reform
The Great Debate Continues
This excerpt is from The Fount online news article entitled: "Fleming Wants 'Right Kind' Of Healthcare Reform Pt. 1
The
Minden Convention Center in Minden, LA hosted Congressman John
Fleming's Town Hall Meeting this past Monday August 24th 2009, as the announcer
introduced Minden's very own being a member of two house committees:
Armed Services and Natural Resources. Serving on the Natural Resources
committee positions the congressman to assist with enacting the
Haynesville Shale Project in north Louisiana which will provide a
viable and significant source of natural gas and thousands of jobs.
Congressman Fleming once served as a doctor in the U.S. Navy, was
awarded as "Louisiana's Family Doctor" in 2007 and with his medical
practice and the non-medical businesses that he owns, he is reported to
employ some 500 Louisianans.
After being introduced, the congressman opened up by letting it be
known how happy and comfortable he was to be addressing his hometown
people. He began his presentation by saying, "I went to Washington
thinking it was a very hypocritical and arrogant place. I found when I
got there, I had greatly underestimated the problem.
This country since January, and a little bit before January, but since
then has taken a very, very sharp left turn if you haven't noticed. And
I saw it coming very early and became very concerned and began to seek
God about it."
He went on to say "One of the very first bills we passed; the executor
bill was a bill to expand Medicaid to people who were middle if not
higher incomes, and stripped away our ability to require the recipients
be citizens of the United States - shocking to me. So already in
healthcare, we have a situation where your tax dollars are taking care
of undocumented workers.
Of course we did the second bailout, that is the first bailout was
during Bush's administration and the second one was during Obama's
administration. Again, lots of money being plowed into companies to
prop them up, companies that in many cases are not well-run. And
interesting, the President was choosing the winners and losers, and as
it turned out - a lot of the winners were really close to the
president. And that's in terms of the personnel shifting back and forth
from Goldman Sachs and companies like that.
And we all know about the fiasco that happened with AIG; executives
were getting millions of dollars of bonuses undeservedly at the
taxpayer's expense. The money was going directly from you to the
government and into the pockets of the executives. But where it really
hit home I think for everybody was when the stimulus bill was passed -
a 787 billion dollar bill that was supposedly to flatten out the
recession we were going into. But I can tell you that it was not any
more than 20 years of pent up social programs that were cast upon the
citizenry at your cost.
It's being spent on just ludicrous things. They had a list of 'em up on
TV today, uh it was something like the sexual habits of rodents
$200,000; just really wasteful spending; a billion dollars on a
railroad between L.A. and Las Vegas. And of course that's Harry Reed's
area in Nevada." The congressman went on to say that the stimulus
package was "the biggest chunk of pork you could ever find, and it's
done nothing for our economy."
Congressman Fleming then compared President Obama's strategy for fixing
America's economy to the other 7 countries which attend the G-8 summit.
He said that when President Obama talked to persuade these "socialistic
countries" into passing a similar stimulus bill "they thought he was
crazy, that it was a wasteful, dumb thing to do, we tried that before
and it didn't work." The congressman then said these other countries
have come out of their recession much faster than we are, and "in fact,
we're not even coming out of it yet."
He then stated his sore displeasure about only being given 4 hours to
review and discuss the 1,100+ page pork-filled bill before voting on it
- which of course is not humanly possible to disseminate. "And that was
done by design. It wasn't so much so that we couldn't read it, but
because they didn't want YOU to know what was in it. Understand that,
okay?" said Congressman Fleming.
The congressman then discussed the Cap & Trade Bill by describing
it as a $500 billion tax on energy bill that does nothing for the
environment and is hurtful to all states in our country. He said the
bill has already passed the House, but not the Senate yet, and if it
did pass it will cause higher unemployment.
He said not even Greenpeace believes it will do anything for the
environment, and that the country of Spain passed a similar bill 10
years ago and their unemployment rate is now 18% and they have lost a
lot of manufacturing companies that ended up coming to the U.S. He said
if this Cap & Trade Bill passes, that manufacturing companies will
flee to India or china where there are no restrictions on CO2 emissions.
Congressman Fleming then pointed out that once again, this particular
bill was not presented until a few hours before being forced to vote on
it to keep the citizens from knowing what was in the bill. For the most
part, the entire audience present was completely silent and very
attentive to the congressman's initial presentation. He let it be known
that the reason these recent Town Hall sessions have been very
successful thus far is because Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed's efforts to
pass the bill before the August recess failed and people have had a
chance to really examine the bills (the House version and the Senate
version) and they are upset about what's in those bills.
Congressman Fleming expressed the urgency he felt to not only discuss
the specifics of the healthcare reform bill, but to explain his version
of the politics behind it all. He said that people approach him all the
time asking why he and his peers just don't reach a happy compromise on
this issue.
He said that the politics of the situation would "prevent that from
ever happening" and then reminded everybody that there are 250 or so
Democrats compared to 170 Republicans in the House. He then said there
are about 50 "blue dog Democrats" who were elected in conservative
districts like his own with the idea they would remain conservative
when they got to Washington. "But nothing further can be from the
truth" said Fleming.
He went on to say: "The first thing they did was vote for the Speaker
of the House, and who did they vote for? They voted for Nancy Pelosi of
San Francisco. She and some of those close to her are extremely liberal
to the point of being socialists. And they don't have to worry about
being socialists because they come from extremely liberal districts
that enable them to be re-elected for 30 years."
The congressman said Pelosi controls even the blue dog Democrats with
money and the ability to campaign against them if they don't vote with
her the way she says. The congressman said "So what you really have is
a small core number of very powerful elected socialists in the House of
Representatives and they have tight-fisted control over the rest of the
Democrats. And why? Because they want to keep their job. So they do
what 'Queen Nancy' tells them to do. And there are some Republicans
that do that, but only a handful. But you've got probably a hundred
Democrats who are that way.
So hopefully, that gets you to understand why there's no such thing as
compromise. They've got the numbers. They can push these bills through
without one single Republican voting for them. And they don't include
us on anything. We don't know what's going on until the bill is out
there to be voted on. When it's in committee, we try to put amendments
in just to mitigate a little bit some of these awful bills, and they
throw them away immediately.
And the blue dog Democrats claim to be for a balanced budget, and yet
they voted for trillions of dollars in debt. And they claim to be
pro-life, and yet they block amendments that we try to put in. We've
got the MOST liberal President that we've ever had. We've got the most
liberal House of Representatives that we've ever had. And I wouldn't
say that the Senate is terribly liberal like the House is, it's much
more middle of the road but it has 60 Democrats. So it is filibuster
proof if they ever want to push through a bill that's been passed from
the House."
The congressman then changed gears by specifically addressing
healthcare reform: "Understand that we have 48 million people in
America who are uninsured. And I ran for Congress on the platform that
I believe in healthcare reform. There's things we DO need to do to
improve healthcare delivery in this country. But I'm not in favor of
House Bill 3200 which is the Democratic form of government takeover of
healthcare. So, I'm for reform but I'm against government takeover of
healthcare in any form or fashion." said Fleming.
The first signs of audience reaction came when Congressman Fleming
began to breakdown who he believes the 48 million uninsured people
actually consist of. "Forty eight million, well who are these people?
First of all, the first 10-13 million are illegal aliens. The only way
to deal with the illegal alien problem is with immigration reform. If
they stay here, they need to be legal, they need to pay in. If they are
illegal and they don't need to be here for some reason, they need to go
back. So that's not really a healthcare problem, that's an immigration
problem.
Another 10-17 million are what we call 'The Invincibles' the age 25 or
so year old young healthy adults who have jobs, who can afford good
healthcare but who choose not to. You know 25 year olds are
indestructible and probably will never need it. And in most cases they
don't. But you see, if they do it's not there and that means you have
to pick up the cost because they end up not paying."
The congressman also discussed how monies from this group of young
people are not available to offset the healthcare costs of the older
group, and how that particular problem had not been addressed but could
be with the proper incentives.
The congressman continued to break down the number of 48 million
uninsured by saying "We have another 5-10 million people who qualify
for Medicaid or Medicare that just don't sign up, and we're not really
doing anything to find those people.
Congressman Fleming said that one way to assist the remaining 10
million or so Americans who want and need insurance would be to pass
laws that would prevent insurance companies from excluding coverage for
people who have pre-existing conditions.
He then discussed a certain federal law in existence that mandates
emergency room treatment by saying "So don't let anybody tell you in
America, that just because you don't have insurance you don't have
access to healthcare, that just isn't true."
He talked about how people could not be refused treatment due to their
inability to pay, how they would definitely receive a bill, and if a
future medical event occurred, even if they had not paid for the
previous emergency room visit, they still could not be denied emergency
room treatment. "But that's not the idea" said Fleming. He further
commented on how costs could be dramatically cut by preventing
sicknesses before they became urgent enough for emergency room
treatment.
Due to the length of the congressman's initial speech and the long line
of people who had questions afterward, the meeting carried into
overtime, as many issues were discussed. This concludes the first
segment of Congressman John Fleming's Town Hall Meeting at the Minden
convention Center.
Part 2 of 3 can be found here. Part 3 of 3 can be found here.
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I think the Congressman is right that reform not government takeover of the health care system is the way to go.
honorable congressman Fleming I know you are opposed to the public option that is very clear but I wish to express my opinion why are the insurance lobbies spending so much trying to kill the entire reform bill they want to keep tings to stay the way they are, since











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4 months ago
The news coming out of Washington is a disgrace. As a Christian conservative I am appalled that this is happening to my country. But as a Biblicist I know that this is the direction that the World must go to reach the end times prophecies.