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Nice Doesn't Get The Ladies; Tips For Nice Guys

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By izettl



Nice guys usually finish last with women. In fact, when and if they do get the girl, it's after she has divorced/broken up with a typical "bad boy" and she's searching for Satan's (I mean Bad Boy's) polar opposite. It seems women have to suffer through a mountain high stack of "punks", "losers, "bad boys", and "jerks" before they get a clue that the nice guys are waiting right in front of their noses.

Why do women pass up the nice guys?

1. Women know nice guys will wait around for them: Nice guys are nice and patient. Nice guys make good friends through thick and thin and even nurse a girl back to mental stability after the tirade of wrong guys continuously exit her life.

Nice guys are too patient and here's why that's bad. Most women like to shop and they like sales even better- sales bring in a stampede of women who want to get to an item that may or may not be available or for a limited time. Bad boys are like a sale, take them or leave them, they have an attitude like "here's your one chance to have me" or else some other woman will snatch me up in a heartbeat. Just watch a popular item when it goes on sale- women will fight for it. Because it has percieved value if others want it.

2. Too good to be true mentality: Women have chosen guys who seem nice and treat them great initially, but they've also been the most hurt by these guys when they get fooled and the guys ends up being a jerk. There are many men who put on a good front, and all the women who have sustained this tormenting relationship with one, have a high level of distrust about a guy who seems too good to be true.

Women begin thinking if a guy is going to be a jerk anyway, might as well take the hot bad boy in the corner of the bar smoking his cigrette and flirting with two other girls. Our parents even warned us about guys who seem to good to be true, kind of like serial killer Ted Bundy who seemed like a nice guy. If a guy is too nice it is a little creepy.

The appeal, and actually something quite refreshing, about bad boys is that they are a what-you-see is what-you-get deal. Too many jerks posing as "nice guy" ruins it for the true and honest nice guys.

3. Does he like me? Nice guys seem to fall in love easily and this sends up red flags for many women. Women want to believe a guy likes her because she is who she is. If a guy falls for her seemingly easy, then it makes us think he would fall for anybody. I have known my fair share of nice guys who are in love with love- and not me.

I gave another nice guy a chance and as soon as I did, he lost interest in me. So even nice guys may like the hunt better than the catch. Sometimes I think they seek exactly what they complain about with women who seek bad boys and jerks- the attractiveness of the hunt and someone not easily acquired. The same traits a woman might be interested in with a bad boy is the same way a woman treats a nice guy, and the nice guy keeps hanging around for more, just like a woman feeps seeking a bad boy.

4. Too much pressure: Nice guys give way too much and too soon- of themselves and even gifts, etc. The woman might misinterpret this as feeling like she will eventually owe him; emotionally, physically, monetarily. This is a lot of presure. I once met a nice guy who did so much for me- thoughtful stuff and instead of enjoying it, my mind was racing with thoughts about "What if I don't like him as much as he likes me", "I don't want him to feel like he's wasting time and money on me if I can't reciprocate", " What are his expectations?", "I can't possibly give back to him what he's given to me"!

5. Nice can be interpreted as a girly trait: The law of attraction works like this; Women are most attracted to men who have manly traits, like strong, confident, aggressive (not overly), assured, etc. and men are most attracted to women with typical feminine characteristics like accomodating, sentimental, helpless (but not in a bad way- just in a way that she needs a guy to help her open a jar).

Nice guys have a lot of the female characteristics, but it's not as attactive in a man. They appear too needy and pleasing when they reflect these traits. A woman, is not going to be attracted to a guy who posseses similar traits as her, hence opposites attract, and it won't be the nice guy she is attracted to.

TIPS FOR NICE GUYS

Get confident- value yourself and show it. If you aren't convinced about your value, then she won't be either.

Don't need anyone else- even people who are madly in love, do not "need" each other. They will survive without each other as sad as it may be and they may strongly desire to be with the one they love, but need is too strong and too much pressure for any relationship.

Be true to yourself- if you have to bend over backwards to do nice things for a girl who barely gives you the time of day, start taking care of yourself and see if she sticks around. Bad boys get away with doing the bare minimum, and somehow they have women flocking to them.

Set boundaries- if the girl says you two are friends then don't overstep those boundaries by picking up her dry cleaning, cooking her dinner, and bringing her little gifts. Those tasks are boyfriend duties so back off and play the part of a friend ONLY. If you are doing everything she needs before you two are dating, then she won't need to date you.

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kerryg profile image

kerryg  says:
8 months ago

I would add (related to #4) that nice guys tend to suffer from "nice guy syndrome" too. I'm not personally attracted to bad boys (well, not enough to date one, anyway) but if I were, I wouldn't appreciate a "nice" guy informing me that "I could do better" and "why don't you date someone who respects you" and the like, as if I were a little girl who didn't know my own mind. That's not "respect," that's paternalism. Quite the opposite!

http://xkcd.com/513/

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Staci-Barbo7  says:
8 months ago

Something I've noticed about "nice guys" is that they often seem to try too hard - and do too much - too soon. While many of us fantasize about "love at first sight," in reality we know that attachment takes time and shared experiences with one another. When a man gives every indication that he's formed an attachment to you too quickly after meeting you, it is a warning sign that he may not be emotionally healthy.

The same applies for women. When men see this trait in women - if it is pronounced - they view it as "neediness." For most men it is a red flag, as well.

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Lita Sorensen  says:
8 months ago

Hmm, Izzetl... I happened on your hub by accident. And I must say, isn't there something of a middle ground? Because I don't think the guys I've ever been with fit into either a bad boy or nice guy category. Maybe they are quote, quote, 'bad boys' in that they are goal oriented, confident, usually very good at what they do, etc., but they are usually also confident enough in themselves that they are pretty giving... And perish the thought that men prefer accomodating and sentimental, helpless women (caring is another thing & is a prerequisite for anyone). Agh! If so, I would definitely be at a loss--I find guys I've known like a strong woman--even if it leads to something like competition between us---but at least it's about reality.

I think its a good idea for all people to become confident--men and women. Usually that comes with a certain comfort level with yourself... And hard & honest work towards your goals. Always attractive.

izettl profile image

izettl  says:
8 months ago

Lita Sorensen~ yes, there is a middle ground- if you're lucky to find him (or her). I came upon several nice guy and bad boy types mostly when dating in my earlier (younger) experiences. If I could offer advice to either of these types of men- it would be to find a middle ground, but easier said than done.

These two polar opposite types exist in younger men (under 30) the most because, even for women, confidence tends to come with age and experience. Don't get me wrong, though, I have a couple bachelor guy friends in their thirties; one is a typical bad boy, the other a nice guy and neither have luck with long-term relationships.

I would say my husband is on middle ground because he is an ex bad boy turned good and decent, but still confident. Middle ground is possible for either of these types.

Kelly Contrary profile image

Kelly Contrary  says:
5 months ago

Why did Heather and Pam marry Tommy Lee, a guy who looks like the poster child for Tattoo City?  I couldn't understand why beautiful, successful women would hang out with a drug dealer.  You explained it.  I thought it was because Tommy had a 2 x 4 in his pants. My mistake.

izettl profile image

izettl  says:
5 months ago

I guess some guys (Tommy Lee) have the balls (and maybe something else) to back up their bad boy attitude.

The Beautiful successful women who married him are not all that you say, because I hope no intelligent, decent woman would consider marrying a guy for the way he fills out his pants. If they did, then they deserve all his bad boy backlash.

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