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Does Something Good Always Come Out Of Something Bad?

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By Lisa HW


Maybe Not, But Maybe Sometimes

When something awful happens in our lives we can sometimes find comfort in believing that something good always comes from something bad. It helps us, too, to look for silver linings or to believe that everything happens for a reason. Those of us with good coping skills (and even just natural instincts) often know how to make the best of a bad situation, or even turn it into a better one than it is.

There is some wisdom and good sense in thinking in a way that helps us cope. Such thinking is not necessarily always wrong, and it certainly is not my wish, aim, even stand to say that ideas associated with such thinking are wrong.

Still, having said that, and getting down to the question of whether something good always comes from something bad; I have to say it just does not. Believing that, however, isn't necessarily a bad or unhealthy thing either. In fact, I've always found some comfort in seeing bad for what it is, not "assigning it" some positive outcome, and finding a way to come to terms with, and get past it, in spite of that.

I think, in order to come up with an answer to the question, we need to look at bad from two different angles. We can think of bad things that happen in our lives as "within the context" of our own, one, life/self; or we can think of bad things that happen in our lives as things that "belong" to the larger world (other people) too. It is, I believe, impossible to consider the bad event/situation from both viewpoints.

Although the term, "island", is not generally used in the way I will use it; I'm going to use it in my own way for ease of writing/reading. It is said that "no man is an island", but when we are going through something terrible, we are, in some ways, an island (in terms of the fact that we are the only one who will experience our own, individual, set of circumstances/emotions as we do). When four siblings lose a parent, they are both going through the same thing and yet, in many ways, experiencing the loss from an "island" viewpoint as well. Each sibling will have had his own, individual, relationship with the parents at any given stage in either person's life.

So, with this connotation for "island", if we consider the terrible things from that viewpoint; we realize that bad things often alter the course our lives, and that we often learn from the experiences. In general, what happens after a bad event or situation is that we move on in spite of it. When we do move on, we do bring ourselves into that new path; so our choices and circumstances are not necessarily directly stemming from the bad event or situation.

Sometimes we choose that new path after having been "de-railed" from the one on we thought we would always travel; but even if we get "picked up off our own train tracks" and "placed on a new set", from the moment that happens we have the most substantial role in what happens next (at least to the limited extent that any of us has that kind of power).

While bad can certainly end the way our lives once were, it doesn't necessarily have to decide our fate either. To some extent, we have the power to determine how much power we will allow bad to have over our lives. By the same token, we can decide whether we will attribute every good thing that ever follows bad to that bad. Some people may prefer to see things that way, and that's their right. At the same time, I prefer not to "give" the bad that has happened in my life "credit" for any good that happened to follow, but that was not directly attributable to the bad event/situation.

We tend to learn from the bad things in life. Sometimes that learning would be considered "good" because it can come in the form of wisdom. Some lessons we learn, though, are lessons that would be better left unlearned. There are lessons that nurture the soul and those that scar it (and sometimes destroy the chance of it every being truly at peace again); so all learning from bad things is not good learning. Even some wisdom is the kind of wisdom that we could have been happier living without.

From the "island" viewpoint, I'll use some examples from my own life (both because those are my frames of references for my beliefs, but also, I suppose, because there is a part of my generally-peaceful-but-scarred-enough soul to have enough anger to want to put these "monsters" in the line of my own verbal fire, and - all these years later - reaffirm that none of them had a shred of redeeming value, worth, or good in them.

The first one involves the fact that my siblings and I, as well as my children, my sister's children, and my sister's grandchildren would not exist if, when my mother was young, she had not married a young man who would be killed in World War II before they ever had children.

From my "island", it would seem that a whole lot of good came from that (some would say) senseless death. After all, my parents eventually got married, had their family, and built a lovely childhood and home life for that family. Lots of love and "decent people" came out of it all. Still, in spite of that, there was some subtle shadow of life, with the knowledge that the mother I loved so much had been through what she had. In other words, there are families that don't have that kind of shadow. We had it, even though my mother tried not to say much about it. It was natural that her first husband's name would come up when she and her sisters talked about earlier life. When people tried not to mention his name, it was obvious someone was skirting the issue of his existence and death.

Also from my "island" is the simple reality that my existence did not stem directly from the death of the young Marine. While I would certainly not have existed had he not been killed, my mother (a young widow of 24) would likely have married someone else. Her choice to marry my father means that there were other factors in determining whether I would exist or not (to whatever my existence and my parents' happy family) would be considered "good".

If we consider each person's "island" viewpoint, from the viewpoint of her first husband there was no good that came from losing his life at 24. Someone could find the silver lining and say that he was spared a longer, sadder, life; or that he died feeling that he was doing what was right. Those are silver linings, though; and being killed at 24 generally offers no "good" to the person who no longer has a life in which to experience any good. There is never any good in violence, even when there may be a "legitimate reason" for it.

From my mother's "island", she went through her loss, picked up the pieces of her life and emotions, and moved past/around the horrible situation - much as we step over, walk around, or cross the street to avoid stepping in dog "muck" on the sidewalk. For all I know, she and her first husband could have become divorced if he had come home - and maybe I would still be here anyway.

Another view from my "island" is that when I was six years old my mother was hospitalized for seven months for a lung infection. Did any good come from a little girl being separated from her mother, or from a mother being separated from her three children (including a baby) for that long? No. My mother came away with left-over health issues that last for quite a while. Her baby son didn't know her very well when she came home. I "got to learn" that children and mothers can be yanked apart in this world, and I "got to learn" what it feels like to cry every night, afraid that my mother would die.

Did my mother make a few friends at the hospital? Sure, but after all had been sent home, they eventually lost touch with one another.

My sister-in-law and her husband lost their 20-month old toddler to an infection. From my "island", did any good whatsoever come from that in my life? No. Absolutely none. I learned that there is no depth to which "life" will not go in kicking its "participants" in the head; and I learned how to try to help my own young children to process the loss of their own young cousin; but those are all lessons best left unlearned by any heart or soul.

Suppose, however, we don't think in terms of how bad things affect life on any individual "island" (whether that's mine, my mother's, the young Marine's, my sister-in-law's, or anyone else's). Suppose we, instead, think of good coming from bad from the viewpoint of the larger world.

Did the larger world gain anything from the death of that 20-month-child? Does the larger world gain anything when mothers watch their own malnourished children starve to death in third world countries? Is it "good" that the numbers of impoverished, sick, and starving people are reduced because so many die their awful deaths? While silver linings in that horror may be that those who die no longer suffer or need to be fed, I see no good whatsoever from the horrors of such evil (even if that evil is not the calculated or twisted evil of a human being).

Some would say that good comes from bad when, for example, the parents of a tortured and murdered child do what they can to change laws or create awareness. Here again, however, it's more a matter of the parents choosing to create something positive out of the horror, rather than the crime "creating" good. No good whatsoever automatically comes out of such a horror. It is the parents, with this wish to fight back in some way and their wish to prevent similar horror to others, who decide to create some shred of good (or even something that makes a very substantial difference) out of something that was made of nothing but pure evil.

Might some parents' child's life be saved because of the actions of such grief-stricken parents of the child victims? Yes. On the other hand, does every horrible crime always lead to all families of all victims creating some version of good for others? No. Most such crimes result in dead, maimed, children and a life of sorrow and horrible images to fight for the rest of the lives of those who knew and loved them.

Then there are the questions of "meant to be" or "for a reason" (and both are kind of two sides to the same coin - destiny or "a giant plan"). I have no way to know if there is a giant plan, and if we don't have the free will that most us believe we do. If there's a giant plan, though, that would mean that whatever bad happens is not at the root of any good that comes later. Instead, both the bad and good were part of the giant plan. If there's a "giant, basic, plan" but within that we all have free will and choice, then that goes back to the points I made earlier about bad not always being the direct cause of good that follows.

If there is that "giant, basic, plan", it is at least possible that things that were meant to be may occur in spite of things that were not meant to be, simply because humans (or other Earthly factors) have not thrown off the whole plan, but only isolated parts of it.

Here are my examples of this line of thinking: When I was 20/21 I had a year and a half stretch that was bizarre in terms of horrible things happening in my life and close to me. My long-time, close, girlfriend's two brothers were in an accident with their friend. They were 15 and 16, and the friend was 16. The two older boys were killed, and the younger boy was severely burned. The boys were speeding, and hit a tree; but, of course, it was horrible in spite of their bad, teen, judgment.

Not long after that my best friend, our other friend, and I were hit by a drunk driver. My girlfriend was killed, and the other two of us were injured. I eventually returned to work; but the man for whom I worked (and a state employee, by the way) decided to take advantage of the fact that I had had a head injury (that didn't leave any permanent damage, by the way). Shortly after I returned to work, he attempted to make an inappropriate move. I headed for the door, and he blocked the door. Without a whole lot of struggle I did get out one of the doors and did not return to work the next day (or ever). He called and told me if I told anyone he would say that I was "f'd" in the head because of the head injury. I told him that because I liked his pregnant wife I would not say anything that would hurt her. The relevance of this will become clear shortly. I found another job and essentially built myself a new life and met new people.

"What a year," my remaining girlfriend and I thought. A few months later, that girlfriend (with whom I'd been close for years) lost her 17-year-old brother to leukemia, that was diagnosed one month and that killed him about a month later. All of these things so close were quite a bit for me, as a young woman, to process; and yet I continued to try to move on after each.

Three months after my friend's brother died, my father had a heart attack, was hospitalized for a month, and died. This was, of course, the horror of all horrors; and my mother, siblings and I were so shocked and "kicked in the head" I can't even find words to describe it. Because there is never much choice but to move on, we did our best to get through and move on.

Afraid of what the next horror may be, I did move on; and in time I was reasonably fine with having gone through that period that ended with my father's death. Life brought me to a baby who had been harmed in early infancy, and who needed a mother. While I can't say I would have done things differently without having had life make me so want "something bright and positive", I do know that the joy and sense of purpose of becoming his mother came in and replaced a lot of the "gray" with which I'd lived for so long. In that case, it seems that a lot of bad events and situations may have, at least, been partially responsible for the tremendous joy and sense of purpose that came with adopting my son. Did good come from all that bad in my life? Maybe. Did good come to my son from all the bad in his newborn life? Maybe. On the other hand, if there was some basic plan that we were to be part of one another's life, would that have happened anyway?

The same applies to the two children I had after adopting him. I met their father in that life that I'd built after leaving that job. It could be said that the thing with the supervisor was a matter of bad coming from bad. Again, though, if my family was meant to be under even some basic plan, would not we have become the family we did in spite drunk drivers and seedy bosses?

If some big plan was written at some time way in the beginning of the Universe (or before), then whatever happens - good or bad - has already been written, which means nothing occurs as result of something else (even though it may look that way to us). If we're Chess pieces in some higher power's game of Chess, whatever goes on would seem to depend on which moves such a higher power chooses, based on what is already on the board. It would seem that such a higher power would not need to rely on earlier board scenarios to accomplish any aims to bring good to any life.

If we're honest, we all know that none of us knows how a whole lot of this stuff works. It is fortunately in our nature and wisdom to be able to look for those silver linings, trust that there may a reason, and find ways to create good after bad has thrown our lives for a giant loop.
Through the process of learning to cope, deciding to have faith (or learning to find peace without faith), and seeing that we have somehow managed to muster up the strength to deal with the bad things in life; we usually do come out stronger and wiser people. Some might say we sometimes gain that strength and wisdom at the expense of giving up a life with that many fewer heartaches and sad memories. Some would say that this is growing up, and that growing up is always a kind of good that can come from bad.

As someone who, in spite of being so blessed with a wonderful family and childhood, as well as any number of other important things in life; was robbed of the chance to just be young for a while longer. From my "island" I can't say I see much good in knowing that I lost my one and only chance to be as young and carefree as so many other people get to be. I'm a tremendously fortunate and blessed person in so many important ways, and I'm generally a happy person. Still, I choose not to stretch the facts and try to attribute the good in my life to those bad things that happened, because I've seen that the truly important, meaningful, and good things in life tend to be bigger and stronger than things like drunk drivers, cholesterol, infections, and even armies. Just as most parents want their children to know that they were conceived in love (or at least not know that they weren't), I refuse to accept that what is truly good is ever conceived in what is bad (that often, didn't have to happen).

Aside from my own refusal to let the bad play a larger role in my life than it already has; after living approximately a half century, I am fairly convinced that all bad do not always bring about some good.

I would, however, like to end with yet one more (but more pleasant) personal story. In the 1980's the US government told parents they would need to get a social security number for each child listed on tax returns. I needed birth certificates for each child. My eldest son was in his early teens, and I had given the copies of his birth certificate that I had to people like the school and his Little League team. (His birth certificate had, of course, been altered at the time of his adoption.)

In any case, I called the city hall in the city in which he was born and requested a new copy. I don't know what month it was, although, with taxes due in April, there is the chance I called the city hall in March. I wasn't paying attention. Knowing me, however, there's also the chance that I called in February. Years earlier his adoption had been finalized in January.

When the birth certificate arrived I got the most eerie feeling, because there - up in the corner of the certificate - was the March date of the car accident that had left me sometimes wondering if there was some reason that I had lived through it. This hadn't been a fender bender that involved a freakish death. Anyone who looked at the wrecked remains of the cars wondered how anyone could have survived.

Whether or not the date on the certificate was a date from when I requested it, when the clerk's office typed it up; or even a date that had roots relating to the finalization, I'm don't know. I just know that when I opened that city hall envelope and saw that date I felt kind of numbed and "eerie" and kind of wanted to cry. When I think of my son ( the one who suffered a skull fracture in early infancy, the one born to someone deemed unfit), I have to say that sometimes good does come from bad. I have to say, too, that when it comes to answering questions like, "does some good always come from bad?", I don't think of any of us really has any foolproof answers.

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Aya Katz profile image

Aya Katz  says:
8 months ago

Lisa HW, this was a very moving, thoughtful hub. I, too, do not believe that we should give bad things that happen credit for good things that happen afterwards, unless there is a causal connection. When someone in our life dies, they are sometimes replaced by someone else, but the new person is not a justification for the death of the person we lost.

In the case of the global picture, (rather than the island one), disease and predators do sometimes help a population of animals (say deer) to maintain a healthy, sound gene base, culling out weaker individuals. However, this is of no solace to the individual animals who fall victim to predators or disease.

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MotherHubber  says:
8 months ago

Lisa, thought-provoking hub. I just received some sad family news this week, and I have been pondering a lot of the points that you made in this hub. It's a lot to think about, and your article made me look at what is happening from a differenet angle. That is what good writing is supposed to do, right? Thanks. Nicely done.

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Lisa HW  says:
8 months ago

MotherHubber, thanks for your nice words. I'm sorry to learn that your family in in the midst of one of those troubling times. Needless to say, it's always worth hoping things improve; but what we all so often learn is that we somehow find a way to deal with things. The song, "I Hope You Dance" (Lee Ann Womack) has the line, "Promise me that you'll give faith a fighting chance." The other lyrics to that song don't necessarily apply in a situation like yours, but I think that one, isolated, line may be a good one to keep in mind. I'm not a particularly religious person, but sometimes prayers do help people get through rough times. I hope things turn out as well as possible.

Aya, thank you, too, for your kind words. I responded to MotherHubber's comment first only because I thought her situation called for the quickest response.

Looking at things from that global viewpoint (a little different from the "world view" that I was thinking of in terms of the people immediately affected by one person's 'bad thing'; there can be peace in realizing that some things are the result of the way "Nature does things". The trouble is, though, that someone like the weak, stupid, young woman who chose to drive drunk and kill my friend even though she wasn't out to be a "predator", got to live while a young woman with dreams and a future did not. It was pure luck (good or bad) that made the speeding car hit the car we were in in a way that resulted in one seat in the car being a "death seat", while the other two seats were not.

While it's true that predators are not always the most desirable creatures to survive, in Nature it is presumed that there is a weeding out of the weak or the sick or those not likely to make the best candidates for further a species. It isn't really in keeping with Nature that a stupid, careless, "Bar Fly" in a big, old, giant, Oldsmobile (and someone who did not aim to kill anyone) would be the "fittest" and most worthy of surviving. Knowing that my own survival involved luck and seating, it seems unlikely that I was particularly a "better" candidate for survival either.

The baby who was exposed to germs (maybe by being unlucky enough to ride in a shopping cart after another sick child) wasn't a weak child, and - really - in the scheme of life, was a superior and stronger (in most ways) creature than germs.

I'm long over the bad things I used as my reference point to ponder the question of the Hub, and I dont think about most of them very much at this point in my life. Still, when I do, I find it is those instances when randomness seems to be at play that pose the most challenge in terms of processing them.

(Maybe tomorrow I'll write a happy Hub to make up for all this gloomy talk. :) )

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Aya Katz  says:
8 months ago

Lisa HW, I agree. There's a lot of randomness to who gets struck down that implies nothing about fitness. The really global picture involves statistics, not individual cases. You can look at populations of people living under harsh subsistence conditions, and statistically they are healthier than people whose ancestors have led more sheltered lives. But a lot of innocent people had to die randomly before that statistical result was achieved.

Totally different question. Out of curiosity, were you single when you adopted your eldest son?

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Lisa HW  says:
8 months ago

Aya, I did begin the process when I was single.   I was in a relationship with the person I would eventually marry.  In fact, the whole thing was under way, when we decided we'd like to get married.  I asked social workers if I should wait or not, and I was told to do what I wanted to do.  So, we had to go back to Square 1 and start the process all pretty much all over gain, under new "terms".

What was kind of nice was that, since we wanted to get married in a church (for the parents), we had to set a date quickly (because of the adoption).  (It was a different kind of "shot-gun marriage"  :)  ).  The clergyman, who was knew it was otherwise not done to get married on such short notice, accommodated us because of the situation.  (What a way to begin a marriage or adopt a child! - but it was really nice, and I'm not sure I've told the story to anyone but my kids before.)

Later, a social worker (and we had a string of them coming and going) told me that one thing that convinced them to approve of us was that we were willing to hold off on getting married if getting married would mess up the adoption.

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Aya Katz  says:
8 months ago

Lisa HW, I think it's wonderful that you were able to do this. The social workers sound unusually intelligent, too. I think in many cases they would tell people the exact opposite: get married right away, or we won't allow the adoption.

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Lisa HW  says:
8 months ago

Aya, the process was well (and long) under way; and I was, I think, reasonably close to "sealing the deal" as a single person; but this was about 30 years ago, so I knew I couldn't take the "single" factor too lightly.   We were going to get married eventually anyway; so it was tricky to know if we should hurry to be a two-parent family, or if we should put things off until all was "sealed".  We had kind of held off because of the adoption.  It was just really tricky to know what to do, and I kind of hoped the social worker(s) would advice me about what wouldn't throw the whole thing off. 

It was, in a way, a kind of comical adoption because it was just so "kind of crazy".  One very "conventional" worker ended up leaving the case.  :)  I think, when all was said and done, they all knew how much we loved the child and how close he was to us.  It was three years of increasingly scary uncertainty (as my son got older and just thought I was family), but when we finally went to court to finalize it, all the judge did was ask my son who his favorite Sesame Street character was and then said, ""That's it.  Stop downstairs to get your paperwork."

Later, I would have two other children with labor taking a hour and an half each - so much easier than that whole three-year "affair".    :) (I guess that's why I started an adoption blog not long ago - I kind of wanted to let people know some of the things adoptive parents will go through, although I haven't posted this story on there.)

Aya Katz profile image

Aya Katz  says:
8 months ago

Lisa HW, it's a good story to post. Anything that can help prospective parents understand the process. A lot of people don't consider adoption when they don't have a conventional family unit in place.

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Lisa HW  says:
8 months ago

Aya, I guess I wouldn't have, really, either (at least as young as I was), but I knew him. People should know, though, that no matter how unsure they are that they would be approved, they should take the first step. I felt like they were going to think I was a "lunatatic" and not take me seriously; but was very much surprised (and reassured on behalf of the baby) that they did.

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mdawson17  says:
7 months ago

Lisa HW again what an awesome hub! If you do not mind me saying that something good does come out of bad (but not in the literal sense)! I believe that when bad happens we have to have the mindset that this is just a trial and we will get past it, by having this mindset, we begin looking for the positive within the bad that is going on around us! If we focus on the terrible acts (or situations) then we begin to have a stinkin thinking mindset and we get caught up in the cycle of the "wows is me syndrome"! I believe that when bad happens we can choose to make something good out of it! Lisa HW I had a cycle of two years like yours and oh it was horrible I would often asked "Lord what is next" and sure enough something else would happen! Then I realized it is not what is happening around me (If you will) that effects us it is our attitude while dealing with it! I believe that life has its obstacles and we have to deal with them (some harder than others) but never the less we have no choice! I think if we have the thinking and COPING skills to be able to process through the bad only searching for the good eventually good will come our way!!!

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Lisa HW  says:
7 months ago

mdawson17, thanks for your kind words and contribution. :)

badcompany99  says:
7 months ago

Wonderful piece of writing

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Lisa HW  says:
7 months ago

bacompany99, thank you for the nice words.

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AEvans  says:
7 months ago

Lisa reading what you wrote about the accident and birth certificates was a simple reminder of how important you are and what a purpose you have, I enjoyed reading it and I am certain I will be back to read again and comment a second time, as it was great!!:)

Lisa HW profile image

Lisa HW  says:
7 months ago

AEvans, thanks for your nice comment. The birth certificate/accident thing is one of my few "spooky" stories in life. Some people have lots of them. I've only got two or three, I think. Still, when they happen they tend to make an impression.

This Hub was in response to a request, and I thought a long time before including my personal "bad things on parade" :) , but I'm assuming most people (over a certain age, and some younger) have their own strings of bad things over the course of a life.

Since the title is a serious one, I just thought I may be able to offer something more personal, by going with the frames-of-references that I have; rather than approaching the subject from more distance.

To be honest, I guess the way I've always thought of the birth certificate/accident thing was may it was "the Universe's" way of reminding me that I had been sent a "bonus" child/gift my way (to make up for all the crap that happened earlier. :) )

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SEM Pro  says:
7 months ago

Lisa HW, thank you for sharing in such depth and glad you did include your personal perspective. I believe that if we write without, anyone could have read it elsewhere or it's impact is minimized. As you wrote, I could both relate and differ but ultimately, find heightened compassion.

Your writing does indeed make one think and that is powerful in and of itself. Thank you :)

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Lisa HW  says:
7 months ago

SEM Pro, thanks. I do agree that sometimes there's a place for writing from our unique perspective, rather than just writing "yet one more of the same" pieces about any particular subject. It's just that I'm sometimes concerned that if I do that it will seem as if I'm turning things into "about me", rather than just using the personal stuff as a "legitimate" frame-of-reference.

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Peggy W  says:
7 months ago

Life gives us another chance after bad things happen. No guarantee on results but if we approach it with optimism instead of pessimism, we have a better chance at a good result.

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