Don't Be Her E.T.
64--For Men Who Have Never Dated Native Chinese Women Before
I heard this real story from a mouth of a young married lady from China. She came to the U.S. with her husband who attends art school in San Francisco. This young couples are new in country and they desperately find ways to learn English by any chances. After being in the U.S. for six months the lady met an American guy who is a teller at her bank. This American guy had a serious crash on her. He invited her to play tennis and sightseeing and sometimes having lunch in Chinese restaurant. He voluntary became her English teacher, calling her almost everyday "chatting to help".
The lady did not reject the guy's invitations nor phone calls because she doesn't mind having a free tutor who is a native English speaker. And the most important thing is she got her husband's approval to have this "tutoring pal". She specially purchased a tennis racket to practice tennis with the guy every week or two, as well as practice her hearing and vocal skills of English.
She has already sensed the guy was interested in her and she enjoyed the feeling of being going after by a good looking white man. She carefully kept a distance with the guy as making him think that it is the culture differences and language barriers that make this Chinese woman doesn't understand what he really wants. She could always pretend she doesn't understand what he said to her and gave him an innocent and confused look, without really provided the guy enough information about her true self. She even told her husband about what kind of games she was playing to this guy and both she and her husband think this American guy is a fool. How can this American guy not knowing that she "just want to be his friend" truly means "I have committed to other person already"? The husband was trusted his smart wife so he allowed his wife to continue enjoying her flatter feeling of being after by this poor American man.
Two months later the American guy asked her out for dinner. He brought her an expensive present and asked her to be his girlfriend, the type of girlfriend who might consider a long term commitment in the future. He explained to her that he is a monogamous person. At this moment, she realized that she got herself a hot potato.
Of course, she had to break this poor American guy's heart by finally admitting that she is a married woman. "How can he be such an idiot not sensing me that I have committed to someone so I can ONLY be his ordinary friend? Are American men all that stupid?" She asked me, after completed describing the story about her so-called first romantic experience in the U.S .
"Because you never really told him you are married!" I said, almost told this Chinese woman to "Go back to your country!" "But I've very clearly stated that I just want to be his friend.", she argued. "Beside, he never asked me if I'm married so why should I told him myself? Aren't most American people respect other's privacy than we Chinese do?"
"Hey young lady, if you want to get yourself a "Plato" you might just go to Castro and find yourself a gay man to be your REAL best friend." I really can't help to speak out loud to her: "You should feel extremely lucky that this guy did not whack you with his tennis racket. You really don't know what type of people around you in this country so you better be careful next time when you want to take advantage of getting free English lectures from a pure American guy. What you have done to him were too dishonest that downgrades and destroys images of all Asian women in this country! Including mine!"
Yes. I am angry hearing a story like that. Therefore, I decided to provide some tips to men who are interested in Chinese women but have never dated any before (if the above story still hasn't freaking you out.....). There are some common causes making American men wrongfully misinterpret an immigrant woman in terms of defining the real meaning of "friendship". I am Chinese so I only limit to share what I know about Chinese women. These are what you want to know before you really throw yourself to a Chinese woman who you found attractive to you:
• Most of the time you can't really tell her martial status by seeing if she wears a wedding ring. As I known, most Chinese women from China don't wear wedding or engagement rings. Woman from Taiwan might do. (I have mine but I hardly wear it. See!) In fact, most immigrant Chinese in America are careful and avoid wearing valuable rings or jewelry due to afraid of getting rob on street.
• Not so sure if she is married or already has a decent boyfriend? Then ask her directly. If she only wants to get laid she will not lie to you; If she wants to use you as a "language tool" then she might not tell you a clear "yes" or "no", instead, she would emphasize to you on "let's just being friends". Then be aware of this kind of indirect responds, because she doesn't technically tell lies but she is probably hiding something, such as has already committed to someone else; Or maybe she isn't really interested in you but don't mind having you as a normal, no string attach kind of friend.
If she is totally not interested in you she will either immediately tell you she is married or has committed to someone; or will lie to you saying she already has a boyfriend. Not all Chinese women like to be in trouble as the above married young lady. When her attitude is very certain then chances are she might only be interested in Chinese or Asian men.
• If you are not tutoring English for living, then never start your relationship with "Practicing English" as being her private tutor. It might really hurt you when you find out she really treats you as a "very nice American friend" and of course a free E.T. --English teacher. Just think of this: She can always go to adult school if she just want to learn English.
• If her English is really bad and you have trouble understand most of her words, there are always signs telling you whether or not she is committed. Such as the way she talks on her cell to certain incoming caller; the way she treats other male companion; If you find her addicted to checking and sending Chinese text messages over her BlackBerry, there must be someone who she really cares, other than her Mom. Some women came to the U.S. with complicated stories that they might not want you to know. It is always safe observing her in a distance.
• You don't want to freak her out in the first place, but do find a chance to tell her that you are serious about developing a healthy and steady relationship with her sometimes in the future. It is always necessary getting a correct message from a woman in the early place so you do not end up being just an E.T. for a Chinese woman. A sincere and positive attitude always win one's heart, even if she says no to you in the beginning, you still win her fully respect by being a great honest gentleman. Then both of you get to have a chance keep in touch and who knows, maybe one day you found both are actually a perfect match.
Woman who tends to play games in relationships actually afraid of getting herself a monogamous guy because he wants a commitment but she hates that. Define your goal and let the woman knows what type of person you are will also help you eliminate the woman who is not suitable to you.
Native Chinese women living in America tend to compare the qualities between Chinese and American men, in aspects toward culture and custom. There is no need to be frustrated when you find out she only likes Chinese or Asian. There are still lots of Chinese women in the U.S. appreciate the qualities of American men and they enjoy learning and adopting American culture. Moreover, Chinese women who love American men will certainly release her messages of her special interests. They will also put themselves into the environment that provides possible access and chances to meet American men.
Language and culture differences often make cross-cultural relationships challenge and difficult to handle. Depends upon the time she stays in the U.S., as well as her basic knowledge and understanding of American culture, some women happened to learn and pick up the rule of game really fast and well. This will make you easier to understand her and avoid receiving too many wrongful messages that will cause a serious heart breaking in the future.
Good luck!
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My first wife was from Thailand. I met her at the University where I was an undergrad and she working on her masters. Our marriage lasted for ten years and ended for one of those great big mess of things I'm not going to go into. She and I met, dated and eventually married in the traditional way. My second wife was more of the mail-order wife thing. I was then the single dad of a young son and wanted to marry again for purely practical reasons. She answered an ad I placed in one of those marriage catalogs and we wrote. I met her in Manila, visited for most of a week, then married. We've been together over fifteen years now and no end in sight. She has been wonderful and sided me through a nervous breakdown, clinical depression and a couple trips through rehab. I had a son (now 27)with my first wife and a daughter (10) with my second. I wrote all this to provide the background for my comments.
The first thing I learned was whoever started that crap about the subservient always smiling slave-wife was an idiot. Asian women have spines of steel, iron wills and if you cross them you'll go home with your balls in your pocket. the only thing is they usually (not always) don't call you out in public. In front of friends and strangers they are all smiles but when the door closes behind you, if she's upset over something, you'd better watch your ass.
Asian women rule the house absolutely. This isn't only my own experience, but most of my friends have been members of the immigrant Asian community and most of the husbands were cowed by their wives. They walk softly and carry no stick at all.
This isn't meant to warn anybody off. I've had a terminal case of yellow fever ever since I went to Asia in 1970. In my opinion, they are the women to seek. But if you fall for the mythos and think you can be the tyrant of the house you are twice an idiot. An Asian woman is smart, aggressive and, especially those from the third world, tough and hardassed people. They brook no nonsense and suffer no fools. I love it, but sometimes being married to an Asian makes kicking the booze look easy.
Hi! Goldentoad- Thanks for dropping by again. I'd fun reading your hubs about you and your wife. I agree that the American guy has to be considered the equally at fault; however, I don't like that Chinese lady who fools the man on purpose and she even admits it herself. This sort of against my religious believe and I think she could get a really bad Karma by fooling a man on purpose.
(Even not on purpose, people receive bad Karma when they are not handling their relationship carefully and decently. You owe the person for your mistakes and for this life or even next life you need to somehow and somewhere pay back. The biggest punishment would be one never got a right person to be with for his/her whole lifetime.).
For jessadad- Welcome to "PTT Club" forum (PTT stands for "Pa Tai Tai" in Chinese means "afraid of wife": [Pa]- afraid of; [tai tai]- wife. Some foreign students invented this phrase and we Chinese now really use it to our literature. It is actually a great compliment to a husbands who is not shovenistic and letting his wife rule the house with great respect and appreciation.). I am amazed seeing many American men show their appreciation to their Asian wives about the above qualities you've mentioned. I heard so many of my Asian or Chinese female friends who married American husbands talked about how nice their husbands treat them, as well as letting them "be the boss" is one of the reasons they love American men.
I found that having a tough wife actually isn't bad for a man. In Chinese society men tend to have a privilege to rule the world however being a boss of everything isn't always easy. I've seen several "stupid bosses" ending up turning most of the household responsibilities to their wives amongst traditional Chinese immigrant families. I believe that sometimes men need a break under various social pressures; a smart man often knows how to release dirty jobs to his wife and still making her feel like a great boss in a house.
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and thoughts. Let's wish everyone luck finding their better-half by receiving valuable lessons and comments from people who actually have a successful marriage. It's good to hear a happy story.
great read and sound advice.
cheers.
Thanks for dropping by Benson. I've sent you a Chinese email just wondering if you can read it from your email account. If not then I'll be happy to communicate with you in English -- It takes longer time to type in Chinese anyway.
Happy writings!
You sure are a writer yxhuang. Your hubs in English are very well written and informative.
I hope America is always good to you. I wish to say I did hope to scare Americans in to action with my hub, but did not intend my hub to scare smart Americans like you and rockinjoe so much as those who never think about the future, and watch their congress feed the rich.
earnestshub- Thanks for visiting me and read my hub. You sure got your point about how bad the American economy is now and I agreed with your theory that if you can get out of this place it would be possibly better. For someone like me I've thought about that many times and even have seriously planned to make a move before; however, moving out of the country still requires a strong economic base to make it really happened with a better and even a successful result. Beside, just like you say, I found America is always good to me. Instead of just walk away, I think it is the time for most of us to be creative to come out solutions of dealing with such a slow and not so good time.
Hello, I recently met a Chinese woman that I really like. However, I can not tell if she is interested in me romantically or not. She has asked for me to help her with English and someday bringing me to her country. She moved away when I tried to kiss her goodbye and said my culture is different from her. She has also said that I remind her of an older brother. She also Say's she does not know anyone from the US. She attends a local college for two hours one time per week to learn English. She has been in this country two years and her English is very poor. She has a daughter 12, still in China and says she is waiting for her country to give her permission to leave. She calls me from time to time and ask if I have free time. I have been very clear about my intentions for a relationship. She will not give even a hint that this is possible! Can you help?
Hello TimB03835:
Thanks for posting your question here. I'll send you a private message regarding to your concern.
All I want to say is "Good Luck" to you. People in this world are seeking ture love however we can't avoid getting hurt sometimes.







goldentoad says:
13 months ago
good tips, especially for guys in California. But I don't feel bad for the American guy who got his heart broke, he has to be considered equally at fault, I mean the conversation of boyfriend or relationship shoud come up at the beginning.