HEY AMERICANS, Time to tell the truth!

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joaojeronimo's Ignorance?

The reason I'm writting:

I have recently read a very "interesting" Hub Page. "Hey Americans, you're not the kings of the world!" by joaojeronimo. This was a very informative piece. But so filled with crap I felt compelled to open this hub. This had to be the most narrow minded, hatefull, ignorant, hate spewing, moronic individual I have ever had the displeasure of reading. He decided to bash all the people in the United States of America from WWII up to the present. I believe in free speech and the right of each human on this great earth to speak their mind. But DO NOT TELL OUTRIGHT LIES to our faces!! I have read his article and the responses to said article. This man hates the people in this country and almost everything that we do.

ABOUT WHAT HE SAID:some reasons he thinks we should be ashamed of ourselves.

#2. On his list: We(the usa) invented the Atomic Bomb. First, let me tell you this. He said, and I qoute "Einstein isn't even born in America, and if he was, I'm not sure if he would have the genius gens it took to make him successful as he was. Maybe because of living in America he got contaminated by some sort of American illness that would later make him invent the atomic bomb and tell president Roosevelt about it."(end quote) I've got some heart stopping news for this poor little man from Maputo, Mozambique. Einstein DID NOT INVENT THE ATOMIC BOMB!!! He had a theory about nuclear fission. The Manhattan Project was ran by Gen. Leslie R. Groves(1896-1970) and it was developed by J. Robert Oppenheimer(1904-1967). Oppenheimer ran the Los Alamos Research center and help build the first A-bomb. He did work with Einstein. The man that informed Pres. Roosevelt with the Einstein-Szilard letter on Aug. 2 1939 was Leo Szilard, Edward Teller, Eugene Wigner. Albert Einstein signed the letter after the fact because Szilard, Teller, and Wigner didn't think they had enough pull to convience the President that the Nazi's had split the atom. Why is this important? Because that makes MR. joaojeronimo wrong on two counts already!! And we've just got started with our ignorance here,LOL.

Mr. joaojeronimo also said that America invented the BOMB. But by his thinking, since as he said and i qoute "Einstein isn't even born in America"(end qoute). By the way, none of the top scientist on the Manhattan Project were born in America. In fact, they were'nt even citizen's of the USA. SO, by Mr. joaojeronimo's thinking the Germans actually developed the A-bomb in the USA with US money. GET YOUR LIES STRAIGHT joaojeronimo!!!

THE UNITED STATES DIDN'T LAND ON THE MOON!!!

#3 on Mr. joaojeronimo's list was the fact that aparently he thinks everyone in the USA thinks we were the first ones in space and didn't land on the moon. He said "You were not the first in space and most of the people say you were even not the first on the moon and everything was shot in a studio...". We as United States Citizen's know we were not the first into space. The Russian's were the first to launch a man-made object into space and the first to orbit the earth. THAT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE MR.GENIUS! But since you don't know your history, here is a lesson for you. Oct. 4 1957 Sputnik I Orbits the earth, Nov. 3 1957 Sputnik II carring Laika(a dog) orbits the earth, May 15 1958 Sputnik III Orbits the earth. April 12 1961 Yuri Gagarin FROM RUSSIA orbits the earth(OMG! they were first!) Feb. 2 1962 John Glenn FROM the USA orbits the earth! Just so you think we can't admit it, there it is. We we were'nt the first to orbit the earth. This news will be an ending factor in the evolution of man kind as we know it. AMERICANS DID'T ORBIT EARTH FIRST! Okay, on to the moon! MR. joaojeronimo seems to think in is undergrowth of a brain that the UNITED SATES of AMERICA did not and has not landed on the moon. Someone, I beg you! Please tell the thousands of geologist, lunar geologist, and all the others that the moon rock samples that they have been studing for the past 40yrs were made in a lab!! OH. we can't forget that MR. joaojeronimo seems to think that since there is no wind on the moon(he is right on that) that the flag planted their cannot move!! Have you ever heard "an object in motion tends to stay in motion until acted upon by an equal and opposite force? Of course you haven't. That would have to have been made up also. When the flag was planted and then let go it's still moving. Why? because there is very little friction on the moon to stop it! Also, "energy" from the sun(if the sun really exsist in his world) can move the flag also. Do some studing on physics pal!!

ASSASSINATING WORLD MUSIC WITH HIP-HOP

#5 on MR. joaojeronimo's list of why we are so evil. Is that we are sending out RAP and Hip-hop music. This must be destroying his culture and all the good cultures of the world. IF ONLY WE DIDN"T MAKE EVERYBODY LISTEN TO IT BY HOLDING GUNS TO THEIR HEADS. Remember. we are suppose to be the most powerful country in the world, so it's got to be our fault. We have sent assassins across the world!!!! You will listen to this American crap or die!! Yeah, that must be it. Look joaojeronimo. I don't like rap and hip-hop either. But guess what....CHANGE THE DAMN CHANNEL!!

WE SHOULDN'T BE PROUD OF WWII!! oh hell know he didn't!

#7 on MR. joaojeronimo's list is the fact that he thinks we don't know our own history and that we didn't save the world in some part during WWII. He seems to think that the USSR did it all by themselves. Good God, we could've stayed home and played baseball or something instead of sticking our noses in the middle of a WORLD WAR!! First, you need to look up the term World War in the dictionary(or have someone else do it for you). As a Veteran of the Persian Gulf War this one got my shorts in a bunch. MR. joaojeronimo. You are about to get a history lesson. Our friend MR. joaojeronimo seems to hate the USA so much that he can't get his lies straight. Well, let me help! In 1939 Germany invades Poland and takes it within days. Shotly there after the Soviets invade Finland and were viewed by many as entering WWII on the side of the Germans. The Soviet Union was then voted out of The League of Nations. By the mid-1940's the USSR's occupation of the Baltic's was completed with the installation of a pro-Soviet government. The Soviet Union actually expressed interest in joining the Axis powers in Sept. of 1940 after Germany, Italy, and Japan signed the TRIPARTITE PACT(look it genius). Russia sent a modified draft of the pact to Germany in Nov. 1940 and offered a very favourable economic deal for Germany. Remember. Russia is doing this while attacking other countries that were against the Axis powers. BUT WAIT! It gets better. In April 1942 Germany and Russia sign a neutrality agreement. Of course Germany attacks the Soviets not long after. By Dec. 1941 the Germans have reach Stalingrad, Moscow, and other major cities Russia. So. Of course our "loyal" Russian friends sign the Atlantic Charter Alliance with 25 other Allied countries against the Axis. They didn't adhere fully to the alliance and kept their neutrality agreement with Japan. Imagine that. Early 1942 Soviet Offensive in Kerch Pennisula and Kharkov were defeated. Between 1942 and 1944 the Russians and Germans are fighting at Stalingrad, Kursk, and other major cities. Let's see, America is fighting on about 4 fronts and the Soviets are fighting on 1 front. Yep, they seem to be winning the war by themselves alright. Short time line:Feb. 1945 British & Americans eneter Germany. March 1945 American & British cross the Rhine north and south. April 1945 Allies push into Italy and sweep across western Germany. Late April 1945 Soviets enter Berlin. We all linked up at the Elbe River 25th April 1945. The United States Fought Japan for 3 more months with no help from the Russians. Remember they signed an alliance to help! Then we dropped the BOMB on Hiroshima Aug 6, 1945(little boy 140,000 dead) and Nagasaki Aug 9, 1945(Fatboy 100,000 dead). AGAIN MR. joaojeronimo you are wrong! I do think that is about 5 times now? As far as the bomb goes, the reason it was dropped is because they estimated that the United States would lose about 2.5 million soldiers in an invasion of Japans homeland and that Japan would lose about 7 million. We actually saved lives by using the BOMBS. I'm not any happier about using them than anyone else. Their are about 9 million people that should be happy. MR. joaojeronimo said "Probably not knowing your own history and therefore thinking you should be proud of WWII, which was saved by the USSR." Your damn right the USA is proud of helping Britian win the war. Now get over it.

VOTING FOR GEORGE W. BUSH TWICE(mr.joaojeronimo thinks we should be ashamed of this also.)

#8 on MR. joaojeronimo's list of lies and shameful acts in the United States is the the fact that we have "free" elections. He seems to think that because George w. Bush was elected for two terms that we are idiots. Hmmm.... is he the best President ever? NO? Well, that remains to be seen. How will Iraq turn out? The economy? We don't know yet. It is true when he says that George W. Bush has the lowest approval rating in history. But think about this. The approval rating for Congress is even lower than his!!!!! Look, you don't live in the United States. You don't have the right vote here. And I really don't think you would care anyways. Seeing as all that is probably true, that means your opinion dosn't matter. If you don't vote you don't have the right to say crap about it. Sorry! We as free people in the world can vote for who we want to, or not vote at all. I do feel it is our duty to vote.

OUR VETERANS ARE HOMELESS TRAMATISED & USELESS??

#13 and #14 have to do with this topic. Don't get mad at me. I didn't write it. MR. joaojeronimo said "25% of your homeless people are ex veterans!" and "In the US people traumatised and feel useless after serving their country". First off. All you af to do is a little research on the subject.(something joaojeronimo wouldn't know about) And you would find that the veterans homeless rate is not even close to 25%. Second of all. We don't have "EX VETERANS". We have veterans.(an ex-veteran I would guess is never in the military?) How the hell do you have an "ex-veteran"? MR. joaojeronimo also said that the us people are traumitized and useless after serving. How the hell would he know? I know hundreds of veterans and enlisted people alike. Not one of them are traumitized and they sure as hell don't feel useless. I am very proud of my service and their service to our country. This statement really shows joaojeronimo's bias and hatred toward the United States of America. It also shows he is willing to say or do anything to get his lies believed and spred his propoganda of hate to the world! You talk about be ashamed......I think because you know that topic so well.

BIN LADEN!!!

MR. joaojeronimo said we should be ashamed because: "Still not having founhd Bin Laden." Lets see now.....there are about 6.5 billion people on earth. 300 million live in the USA. That only leaves about 6.2 Billion people to look through. Well we should have had that done in a week. How shameful of us. How will we ever live with our selves now? Listen brainchild. You seem to think alot like him, so why don't you tell us where he is? You two seem to share the same ideals. Get a life on this one.

AMERICANS ARE POLLUTING THE EARTH!!!!

#12 on MR. joaojeronimo's list is "Being the world's biggest polluter(aww don't worry china will take over you in pollution... but also in political power, army, industry, etc, etc, etc... ohh yeah people in China are not that stupid...)" It is an honor to meet someone that knows every single person in China. My God it must be hard remembering all their names. And for your information hotshot, the biggest polluter on earth are cattle! Yes! I said cattle. They methane gas released by the WORLD'S popullation of cattle far excede any that humans do. Even the United States. As far as our army goes mr. Genius. China has a standing army of well over a million men. Just incase you can't count and I know you don't research, that is about double all of our armed forces put together! All you seem to spread are lies..lies..lies.. trying to make us seem like we are the evil step mother and poor little you get treated so, so, bad. GET A LIFE!

To be fair here. Mr. joaojeronimo attacked the United States in response to a hub called "Why Europe can kiss my Red White and Blue" So, I would check out that hub and his before deciding that he is a ignorant, narrow minded, non-american that doesn't understand our country at all. He also had more things we should be ashamed of. If you want I will write on those also.

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Who's gonna be first? Do we have real Americans or sheeple?

dlarson profile image

dlarson  says:
18 months ago

I couldn't finish his Hub due to nausea. Thanks for this one!

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jreuter  says:
18 months ago

Ahh, what a breathe of fresh air. I was tempted to write a hub like this, but I opted to just ignore the kid instead. Glad to see someone had the patience to address the plethora of inaccuracies in jeronimo's hub. I too was particularly disturbed about his WWII comment, but his list of sheer nonsense didn't stop there. How does one even approach such BS? This, hoverdawg, is a good start.

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marisuewrites  says:
18 months ago

hoverdawg I am in awe!! This is wonderful but he can't read it. I don't think, he doesn't see truth. But, I do and I love this!!! I'm so glad you wrote it, thank you for speaking up for America, flaws and all. =) Big Smiles to YOU. here's a link that might fit... http://youtube.com/watch?v=MOgw1il-Hxo

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funnebone  says:
18 months ago

did you delete my comment?

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

wow thank-you hoverdawg,that's all I can say as the rage is leaving my body.

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

Hey Dawg,find out why mr.joaojeronima is so darn happy to be living in the good ole usa of America.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Facts-about-Joaos-home-tow

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Tater2tot  says:
18 months ago

OH my goodness. hilarious hub. Especially the hip-hop and the Bin Laden part. You are right that hub was the most hateful thing ever. And then he goes on to say that he has nothing against the US. (in comments on his hub) Why is he even in America, if he hates us so much. To get a good education? He is lucky we allow him that. I mean god we are so awful for letting an Hateful anti-american get an education in our country. He acts like he knows us all personally.

Tayler!

angela  says:
18 months ago

MY GOD! Its time someone stands up for america and tells the truth. SO WHERE IS YOUR COMMENT joaojeronimo?

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

Woow a hub about me... what's next ? a Fanclub xD ?

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Thanks guys. Thats a darn good question. Why is he here getting an education and all he can do is put us down. I guess ignorance has no bonderies! I'm glad everybody likes the hub.

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Look. Mr. joaojeronimo thinks this hub is about him. Hmmmmm....now who is arrogante and self-absorbed? This hub is about the truth Mr. joaojeronimo. About what really happened in WWII, the space race, moon landings, and our veterans. Everyone else has seem to got the point of it. And by no means is this an attack on you. But if you want to talk about America, you have the right. Just make sure you do your homework and tell the truth. Thanks

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

I got my education here lol http://www.edu-port.ac.mz/index.htm

But yeah I like the hub lol... Its great to laugh at what you think of yourselves :P makes me remember of when Hitler used to enlarge the Nazi's ego on the radio with politic propaganda lol... Are you paid by the government hoverdawg72 ?

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

You poor, poor brainwashed little man. I have only stated the facts on this hub. Where are the facts on your hub? You only accuse, but give no evidence. You have yet to counter my FACTS! You told ober that all he was doing was making fun and not debating. Well, here is your chance to prove me wrong! Take your best shot and then I'll chew you up and spit your little brainwashed lies out! Or, maybe you know deep down that you might be wrong. What exactly in this hub reminds you of Hitler? He was never mentioned.

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

You're also making fun of me lol... Just look at your first paragraph...

Facts ? These facts only work with Americans lol... I feel lucky to be able to DOUBT everything people tell me so I can know things better. Facts in my hub ? You'll need to go deep down and study hard so you can know more than common sense. If I were you I would think twice (maybe in your case more than twice) before calling people names specially brainwashed. You're just lucky to be in a network where most of the people are americans so you can agree with each other... So go on with hubs like this, you really need those.

Don't know how this reminds me of Hitler ? Go on and study to find out how he enlarged the nazi's ego. It's just like you're doing now with your people... so sad...

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

I'm not making fun of you. Nor do I want to. I said nothing about you in my opening paragraph that you didn't say or imply about Americans. Turn about is fair play. Work with the Americans only?? I'm afraid that 90% of the history book in the world will say the same thing. And as far as ego goes, you and Hitler seem to have the same mentality. I am not pumping up egos and have no desire to. I am meerly proud of my country(most of it). I would guess that you don't think that the Jews were exterminated by the Nazi's either. Do you? And all the FACTS in my hub are known through out most of the real world!

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

Don't be sarcastic -_- you are. And I didn't talk about anyone individual in my whole hub. Can you define fair play ? You'll copy and past something from wikipedia or you'll say something you heard from a friend because this is not fair play. Who are you to talk about my mentality ? Do you know me ? NO. You are pumping up egos and you NEED TO. If not, why would you right this hub ? Don't tell me "to tell the truth" -_- you could just send people to look up on wikipedia... or do you need to tell YOUR OWN TRUTH ? and YOUR OWN FACTS ? There are NO LIES in my hub. Everyone there agreed that the US has as much nice things as bad things, and you're trying to pump up the egos and just say WE'RE THE BEST! Shame on you....

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

You seem to think that evryone makes fun of you. I am not! And I didn't paste anything from any site. Sorry! I don't understand why you keep saying I'm pumping up egos? I didn't say anything of the sort in this hub. I gave clear facts. If you don't believe me the search the web. I NEVER SAID THE USA WAS PERFECT! And I will not say that. If you'd noticed I said "I am meerly proud of my country(MOST OF IT). We still have along ways to go. OH yes, I also recomended that the people reading my hub go read yours also! I even gave them a link! How much more fair could I be? Let them decide for themselves.

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

When small minded people can not compete with each other they raise their voices, call names, make fun of... OK whatever you want, if you're not making fun of me then you're just calling me some 10 nasty things no one would hear without giving you a punch and that's what you want me to do but I already told you at my hub that I'll not play your game. About the pumping up egos you get the idea just by reading your hub's title lol... hint: if you make this hub a poem Americans will kiss your feet (maybe, didn't quite read your hub...). Yeah let people decide for themselves; everyone should make their own decisions and I just hope for the best...

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

See. we agree on a little. not much. but a little. And the title, I feel was justified. I dont think you were very fair in your hub. Thats all I was trying to say. thats why I left your link and the bottom. So people could decide for themselves.

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

see more on joao's hometown

http://hubpages.com/hub/Facts-about-Joaos-home-tow

the facts are right here on Dawg's hub

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Thank you ober! Thats all I was trying to do.

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

Ohh my god you guys really want to score with adsense with this hubs :S

I have more than one link to your hubs from my hub that you posted and I didn't delete it for the sake of freedom of speech and now you're making that in each other's hubs... This is really getting nasty.. This is so cute... the two proud americans working with each other to defeat the little american hater João which is a kid and lives in a poor country where elephants and lions walk on the street and there's less than 10 people with computers and to defeat him they not only make fun of him but also make fun of his family and the place where he lives... oh but they can count with a lot of patriots in hubpages so they might win this and be happy :)

You can think you're right and you can be happy because of it, I may say you're right so that you can stop this and be happy and celebrate, but you won't mess up my head with this... I can just hope for the best with you...

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

How is that nasty? I have a link to your hub here also. Also for freedom of speech.

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

Actually you do not have...

hint: a link is a URL and when you click it, it leads to where you link to...

Wow instead of changing the subject you just pretend nothing is there and talk about a link lol... but you might no have edited your hub and put a link somewhere... then you'll say there is a link and you'll make fun of me because of it... hope not everyone falls for that lol

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Michelle Reed  says:
18 months ago

Everything listed in this hub is fact, not inflated fiction. Where is the problem that has to be looked up for confirmation to let people decide for themselves? German history, Russian history, Japanese history, American history....it all says the same things.

As for veterans, God Bless them, in every country. They are the true backbone of every society fighting for their countries. These people did not ask to have done to them, or do what they were told to do to be slandered by anyone that does not have the guts to stand up for their country and do what they did. I have a family tree with veterans of WWI, WWII, Viet Nam, the Gulf War, and my own husband served twice in Iraq. Until you pick up a gun and support your country, you don't have the right to speak foul about any veteran.

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

I agree with you michelle. Thank you for taking the time to read my hub. I think more people would have a "better view" of America if there was a mandatory two year enlistment when you got out of high school. They may not like it any better, but I bet they would honor it more. Thanks again.

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

Yes michelle it is like a punch right to your families face that's why joao you need are help get it here

http://hubpages.com/hub/Facts-about-Joaos-home-tow

In the mean time grow up

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

joaojeronimo. I'm not a computer expert. As far as I know, if you click the address below it goes to your hub. If not, I will fix it. Or you are more than welcome to post your link/url..lol...what ever leads to your hub. thanks.

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

joaojeronimo....I just click it and it went to your hub. How can I be anymore fair?

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

a mandatory two year enlistment so you could more easily brainwash people so no one causes something like this ?

YEAH oberbreckling A PUNCH RIGHT INTO JOÃO'S FAMILY !!! maybe that will shut João up and now that you played of being a WWE superstar with João you tell him to grow up and expect to get out of this with the look of the older one... I was just about to ask how old are you (mentaly) on the comment before this but I thought I shouldn't make you feel bad just like you're trying to make me and therefore not being someone like you are.

hoverdawg72: Which adress below ? Don't see any adress where I can click and goes to my hub but I don't need one as I'm not willing to make money with this. Update: ohh I've just seen your almost hidden link to the hub... that's nice of you :) woow while I was looking for it I found 3 links to oberbreckling's hub lool... Hey oberbreckling after this tell me how much you made of it with adsense xD

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

I think joaojeronimo has finally been having second thoughts and would like to put out his hand in friendship with ya Dawg

and explain to all of us how he was wrong and that you Dawg have all the true facts. I knew you would learn something here today joao

~cool` cya!

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

Well I went to school Iread that children 7 to 18 years olds most of them don't attend but I wouldnt neither if the doors falling off the front of the building so I dont blame ya one bit friend

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Well i think it is just below the comments. Maybe its not showing up on the hub. Will try to fix it. I'm not trying to make money. I'm trying to tell the truth. A mandatory 2yr enlistment might stop some of these ungrateful little punks from joining gangs and shooting innocent people in the streets. I could care less if the gangs wanna kill each other. But leave us alone. You know joaojeronimo, I have been trying to be nice to you in the last few post. Only because you said you wanted a debate that wasn't childess. But I see thats going to happen with you. It is obvious now that you only see the things you want to. No matter how destorted and out of touch w reality they are. BUT AGAIN, I WELCOME YOU TO POST YOUR HUB LINK HERE> I think the people should read it.Thank you.

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Michelle Reed  says:
18 months ago

Please clarify for me, as my education is obviously inferior, what is WWE? Weird, Wacky Entertainers? World Wide Euphanisms? Witty, Wordy Engineers???

What is that????

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

Yeah oberbreckling João even plans the things he says here so then this can have a happy ending... Give regards to your school mates...

I'm pretty sure oberbreckling knows what WWE is... But if we don't know what things are, we can always count on a friend named Google and if you search there you'll find this: http://www.wwe.com

Thanks for being nice to me hoverdawg72, but I WON'T DEBATE WITH YOU, I HAVE DEBATED THIS AND REACHED AGREEMENTS. You're trying to clone this discussion so you can make your own bucks. The truth has been told but and people have agreed with it... if you haven't then scream to your mirror...

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

I think ober is making funny's.lol

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

WWE stands for( wonderful ways to enjoy ) telling the facts

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

You're both making fun of...

oberbreckling please use google when you're not sure of things...

And again you pretend I wrote nothing but what you want to read and you only talk about what it is convenient to you... I'll stop making your game and commenting here.

You just want this to keep rolling no matter with what content, you don't want a discussion, you wand content and people visiting so you can make money, that's why there's links to here from everywhere... This is getting nastier and nastier and I'll stop wasting my time with you... GOOD BYE GUYS!

Talk about whatever you want and say whatever you like about me, my family and whatever you like, if it makes you happy then I'm glad to make you happy and I'm sorry this is enough for you...

I think someone will delete this comment...

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Mr. joaojeronimo..You have not rebuted any of the facts in this hub. And I scarcely think you have the ability to. Since we have been talking you have not proven one fact wrong. All you do is divert attention away from the facts. You dont or wont answer to any of the facts that have shown you lied. You only destort the truth and with it this country and the good people that live here.(well most of them anyway).

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

Well joao Im glad that you have come to a certain respect for america and americans instead of wanting a hand out I think you will find it much more friendly when you bend down I mean respect the people of this great nation

The best nation in the world you see now that funnebone was really right all along thank you sir for your complete attention to the mistakes you have made

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

PS: I've told you more than 5 times I have discussed this topic and people have reached agreements. It's nasty to try to keep up the comments this way and I haven't even read your hub. Me and other people have talked and discussed the facts and the only need to do it again here is to make yourself some bucks... Don't say I'm lying or you want to tell the truth, it won't work anymore, at least with me... It's childish the way you guys try to get links to your hubs and then try to tease so people can comment here and it's more childish the reason that took you to make this hubs.

And it's childish the way you'll pretend you were right all the time and the way you'll make it like I accepted whatever you want me to accept...

For me it ends right here  hoverdawg72, this is the end.

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

Well still we can't put aside the fact that there is 4.6 million children in joao's country living in slums and by 2015 there will be 9 million living in slums,joao this is your big chance to make a difference in your township your country and being hateful of the country where you plan on steeling that help is terrible just letting good american know where you stand the only thing you did is talked your trash until people just agree with you so you will go away,but I still plan on informing as many good american's as I can about your steeling ways

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SirDent  says:
18 months ago

It seems I am too late to say much here. Good hub Dawg. :)

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

PS2: And you call me a liar ?

You guys reading this and worse, believing this, I left you in good hands lol...

Good luck xD

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

Yes sirdent we are talking about millions of children living in poverty in africa joao was just telling us how one day he hopes to make a big difference over there in africa,I'm actually very happy that you have chosen to do so get a job here and sending the money back home you are so atrong

cammylou  says:
18 months ago

WELL! It seems like you guys have really pissed him off.LOL What I don't understand is why.. joaojeronimo won't answer Dawgs debates if he thinks he(joaojeronimo)is so right! Then when someone shows him how wrong he is and that he knows very little about history. SO IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT !!!! KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT ABOUT AMERICANS! You can say you haven't read Dawgs comments but we all know you have read every comment left you just don't know what to say to them.COME ON AND TELL US WHAT YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT DAWGS COMMENTS.

YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB DAWG SHUTTING HIM DOWN....

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

The kid is back go geta job!

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Bonnie Ramsey  says:
18 months ago

Great job, Dawg! I also think it is awsome how you have deflated him. He won't even show any proof of his claims. That's because he can't! All the history books around the world say the same thing. He, apparently, just doesn't read them because he wants to make up his own truth. The only reason he is even posting in here is to try to change the subject so that he doesn't have to answer for his lies. Excellent job, Dawg and feel free to brainwash this American anyday! LOL. I would rather be a brainwashed American than an ignorant jackass that makes up lies and tries to make everyone else in an entire country accept it for truth. I hate to tell him but he picked the wrong country for that! Sounds to me like he needs to take his ass back where he came from since things are so bad here and we are such awful people. Wonder how fast he cashes the welfare checks our sorry government is sending him to go to school in our country? As far as I am concerned, he shouldn't get a dime from them and they should boot his ass out of America!

Bonnie

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SirDent  says:
18 months ago

Bonnie, you are so forceful at times. I wonder if oyur husband likes it. :P

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Thanks for the post bonnie. I'm glad you enjoyed it. If you get a chance go to his hub and read. You are right. I've tried to debate with him but he just keeps ignoring the issues. And if the government would take all the money they are giving to the illegals(not saying joaojeronimo is one) and take care of our people we would have a lot better country and more people to help. Thanks Again.

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Bonnie Ramsey  says:
18 months ago

LOL SirDent, hubby just steps back and lets me take over! I must admit, though that this is one subject that gets underneath my skin coming from the long line of military in my family. I apologize for the foul language, though. I should not have been that forceful with my words. It is haters like that, that should be kicked out and cut off. Let them suffer through it without our sorry country. I tried to read his hub but I wasn't sure if I wanted to laugh or throw up. It really is amusing in some ways at how he thinks he can change the facts of history just because it is what he puts to words. Can we say Schitzo?????

Bonnie

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

LOL. Yeah. I dont know what the hell he was thinking. Every time I try to "tone down" a little and talk sense into him, he comes off the wall with crap about nothing. He's tring to change history. Just doesn't work that way. He hasn't back up his lies with facts yet. If he can back them up. I'll admit I was wrong. He better have some damn good proof. Thanks again

Jeanette M  says:
18 months ago

Joao doesn't live in the United States and as far as I know, never has, and doesn't want to.

oberbreckling  says:
18 months ago

Hey Bonnie way to go,Let er rip,he comes up in here with that *@it heads are gonna role.As Dawg did just that

~cool~ cya!

ps at one time he was gonna go get his cousin(sniffle sniff)

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SirDent  says:
18 months ago

Bonnie, I am in the chatroom. You should wait until I can see you there. Whisper me when you come back and my nic is there. Right click and whisper me, it will then show up in a new window and I will know you are there.

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Bonnie Ramsey  says:
18 months ago

Thanks, guys! I am on my way, SirDent!

Bonnie

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Jeanette. Thanks for posting. Mr. joaojeronimo told me he went to school in the USA. Which is fine. I have no probblem with that. I've said nothing of his personel life, I hope he does well. I just wanted straight answers to the things he was telling us we should be ashamed of here. Thats all. I've even invited him to post his link to Hey America hub. So my viewers could get an opposing point of view. I try to be fair. Thanks again

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DJ Funktual  says:
18 months ago

Right on hoverdawg. that was riveting at times but i'm glad you set that straight. I was so horrified with his comments on funnebone's hub I didn't even know what to say.

Hovering while keeping your feet on the ground. neat trick.

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Eric Graudins  says:
18 months ago

Don't feed the troll.

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

Dawg I thought you said you were never gonna delete my comments... I expected this... And now everyone gathers around to celebrate the end of this and insult me... call me ignorant and everything... In the end we're all ignorant and stupid... scratch that...

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SirDent  says:
18 months ago

Your comments are still there Joao.

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

the reason your last post is not here joaojeronimo is because you didn't say anything but WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! and said ok i lost americans are the best. You took up like 80 lines. Please don't do that. Re-write and i will post it.

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flutterbug77  says:
18 months ago

To quote Hannity - "You are a great American".

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funnebone  says:
18 months ago

I just cut out a picture of New Jersey and pasted it over Mozambique on a globe. It looks nice,

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Thank you very much flutterbug. I'm glad you like the article. Please dont forget to read the other one. I try to fair as possible. Thanks Again.

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Funnebone is being evil.LOL

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Constant Walker  says:
18 months ago

Good one, Hover. I thought about writing a hub about Maputo (Sp?) and trying to understand why this individual hated us so much, but the thought of it was exhausting... so I just eventually decided to ignore it - well, except for Funnebone's and Jreuter's recent comments. Damn those funny bastards!!!

One debatable subject: Wikipedia lists auto emmisions as the planet's greatest pollutants, and the worst offenders are - in order - China, USA, Russia, Mexico, Japan, with Canada (that's disheartening) following closely behind.

Greenhouses: Asia is the worst offender, USA the 2nd.

Actually I'd always the we were the worst offenders in both categories. YAY!!! We're the second worst...???

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Veronica Bright  says:
18 months ago

First, and most importantly...*standing an applauding "GO Hoverdawg72! Bravo, Encore!" You have stated your point most eloquently and thoughtfully. Your hub was well researched and well written. I shall not even dignify "Him" nor link to his page. But I will say, I am not a King, I am a queen, and I consider myself a queen as much as he considers himself a writer.

I'll look for more of your hubs Hoverdawg72 and thanks again

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Thanks constant walker. I always enjoy being updated on stats. Thats what I tried to get "HIM" to do.LOL Some people just cant see beyond their own noses. Thanks.

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

Thank you for the standing and applauding Veronica. I'm glad that you liked the hub "queen veronica".LOL I will hopefully post a new hub soon. Thanks guys.

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B Pearce Jr  says:
18 months ago

Good job Hover, He should "Google" himself some better facts.

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joaojeronimo  says:
18 months ago

Can we end this now ?

The discussion got nasty...

http://hubpages.com/hub/Time-to-really-tell-the-tr

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hoverdawg72  says:
18 months ago

I just wanted to discuss the topic. Thanks for writing in on it Joaojeronimo. Perhaps we can do it again sometime. Good luck on your next hub.

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