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Hal Licino posted a hub about his hate for superbikes and selectively decided to post only the replies from those who mostly agree with him. He even answers for those who he blocks, so to be fair and democratic, here are my and other hubbies comments to this interesting topic.

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Why the VMX17, Hayabusa And Similar Bikes Should Be Off The Streets

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By Hal Licino

When I was editor of several national monthly motorcycle print magazines I had a great working relationship with the nice people at Yamaha. They're a class act. However, the VMX17 is a motorcycle that should not have been placed on the market at this time, whether in quantities of 2,500, 25 or 250,000. A similar observation can be made for:

· Buell 1125R

· Ducati 1098

· Honda CBR1000RR

· Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14

· Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R

· Kawasaki Z1000

· Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300RK

· Suzuki GSX-R1000

· Yamaha FJR1300A

· Yamaha YZF-R1

· Yamaha FZ1

...and many others. No, just because I'm an (ex)-Harley rider I'm not sparing cruisers from condemnation at all. In light of the current socio-economic and ecological situation in North America, I believe that any motorcycle which is set up to carry two passengers without a sidecar or trailer has no real valid reason to exceed 500cc.

The very essence of these one litre plus plus plus motorcycles flies in the face of the predominant sensibility of these times which is green and conserving. We have trampled on this Earth far too long and far too hard, and although I am not trying to compare the ecological impact of a VMX17 or Hayabusa to stripmining or clearcutting or even a Hummer H1, these bikes an embodiment of a long-gone age of excessive consumption and egotistical thrill-seeking which encourages, aids and abets endangering innocent families driving to school, to dinner, or to Grandma's.

On another Hub I shared my experience of witnessing a large displacement sports bike smash into a Fiat Uno on a European highway at nearly full-out speed. The bike ended up fully within the passenger compartment of the car. Not only did the rider die immediately, but an entire family was instantly snuffed out. If that rider had been aboard a 250 single he might have smashed into the same Fiat and he might have died as well, but I can pretty well assure you that the injuries to the automobile passengers would not have been anywhere near as grievious. Yes, I know... The same argument can apply to a V10 Viper or a Ferrari Enzo. However, the price of those cars is outside the reach of most young, immature banzai motorists... but any 16 year old kid with a burger-flipping job can scrape up enough down payment and credit to buy a 1 litre+ superbike which can propel them along a public highway at 170 mph or more.

These neophyte speed-infatuated riders act just as stupidly as promising National Hockey League star Luc Bourdon who a couple of months ago slammed the Suzuki GSX-R1000 he had purchased just days previously into a transport truck. The RCMP stated that Bourdon's inexperience with motorcycles was a factor in the crash. He had ridden his father's motorcycle for a couple of days and figured that it was enough training to take on a superbike that can attain 192 mph on a public road. Yes, his death was a tragedy, but it was one that could have been mitigated by proper riding education and some common sense. Since many riders do not avail themselves of either factor, then they can damn well ride Honda 125 Varaderos as far as I'm concerned. They can still kill themselves on these bikes, but at least they stand a far smaller chance of killing innocent motorists: Like me!

I was a young hotshot rider once and I can certainly understand that there is something hardwired in the youthful brain that seeks speed, thrills and kicks at any cost, including endangering your own body. If you are one of those people, then I heartily encourage you to do what I did: Become a motorcycle racer! You can get your jollies on a proper race track, experience the exhilaration of riding the wheels off your bike, and at the same time not taking the chance of splattering a mom taking her kids out for pizza

Aaron says: 5 hours ago

Writer for a bike mag or not, you need to do more research. I'm sorry, but you are sorely misinformed. 

...and even if I could (and I can on my Hayabusa) tote a sidecar, I wouldn't. They are dangerous due to the change in a bike's change in geometry. 

Will my Hayabusa reach speeds close to 200mph? Yes. That does not mean you have to twist the throttle as far as it will turn. Speed limits are posted, and laws are to obeyed no matter what you are riding or driving. 

The Hayabusa is not a threat to the environment as you have stated either. When ridden on the high-way, the GSXR 1300 is capable of 50mpg or more. Compared to the Dodge Truck I drive, that is a substantial improvement on emissions (that is another topic for another day though). 

If you want to see a dangerous, motorcycle with a terrible emissions output, I suggest you look into your favorite motorcycle, the Harley Davidson. 

Harley's are still sold with carburated engines. This does not effectively distribute the fuel administered into the cylinders. This leads to wasted fuel and garbage being spewed into the air. These bikes have poor braking systems and are outdated in every way compared to the sport bikes you are against. 

I could go on and on, but...

Hal Licino says: 2 hours ago

There is of course no doubt that the stupidity and inexperience of a novice or immature rider can cause them to have a fatal crash on a moped, but that's not the point. You are all being disingenuous on defending suicidecycles such as the Hayabusa on their emissions or mileage. (BTW, all motorcycles, including Harleys, have to meet the same emissions requirements.) The basic question all of you velocity-ecstatic numbskulls who try to make up for their shortcomings by placing a power between their legs that nature failed to do, need to answer is this: How can you justify operating a two wheeled vehicle on the same streets as the innocent general public that can almost QUADRUPLE freeway speed limits. Since you can't answer that, then I have the answer for you: Tear up your driver's licenses, impound and crush your superduperbikes, and force you to become socially responsible. Grow up!

So Mr. Licino, here are the comments you would not publish from those who differ with your opinion.

I am first.

Jellyrug:

We have never heard of you before, for which printed motorcycle magazines were you actually the editor?

Why are you so angry, too old to ride a big motorcycle, so you criticize those who do?

You are way too serious about life, at the end we all have to die anyway. Lighten up.

Here in good old USA we have V8 engines in all our pick-up trucks, many of our cars and it's real hard to find something with four wheels, sporting less than six cylinders. We don't ride 500cc street motorcycles and four cylinder cars. You want to know why? Because life is short and we want to enjoy what it has to offer.

All motorcycle editors know from insurance statistics, that most motorcycle accidents are caused by not being noticed by the inattentive car or truck driver. The brain is focused in its subconscious to look for something with four or more wheels. The smaller the motorcycle, the more likely to not be seen. The rest is history.

About nature and power between your legs, if you want to hide safely in your corner, until the end, don't deny those who smile every day, because they live life to the fullest. Go get some, live and let live.

 

 

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kml  says:
11 months ago

You deleted my original question I posted on your blog Hal. So let me repeat it here. What national print magazines were you an editor of and when were you an editor at these magazines?Let me quote YOUR blog," When I was editor of several national monthly motorcycle print magazines"

Original quote here;

http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-the-VMX17--Hayabusa-An

Here's what Costa Mouzouris editor at Cycle Canada Has to say about your editorial history."Never heard of this guy either. Highly unlikely he ever held an actual editorial position as he claims, at least not for a mainstream magazine. His tactic is working though, his post made its way onto this forum, and is spreading onto others as well. Nothing on Amazon.com from this author of an international bestseller, either. His bio says he's from Toronto. Perpetual blogger in my estimation.Costa."

Costa's original post is here.http://www.passionperformance.ca/community/forum/s Here's what Larry Tate past editor at Cycle Canada, Current Editor at Inside Motorcycles and Canadian Motorcycle Guide Online has to say."Who knows? Who cares? *sswipe."

Larry's original post is here.http://cmgonline.com/cgi-bin/soapbox/index750.cgi?

If you cannot validate your claims to expertise, why should anyone presume you know anything about motorcycles, for that matter false claims to expertise make it more far likely for people to believe your opinions are wrong, and wrong they are.kml

Metalredneck  says:
11 months ago

I guess I can make up a pen name, add a bullshit biography, add a hotlink to a used car dealership and pretend I'm a world famous Moto-journalist instead of a burned-out cross-dressing non-rider with an axe to grind.

Whoa, somebody beat me to it!

gpfan  says:
11 months ago

Thank you, KML, for letting us know about this wanker.

Every time I encounter such un-educated lying gits, it

allows me to feel ever so slightly better about my small

existence. I'm an intellectual giant, compared to Lucino.

Larry  says:
11 months ago

Hal you tried to bullshit people and they caught you, Do you have the guts to stand up for yourself? Didn't think so...

Proud Harley and Hayabusa owner

Steve Bond  says:
11 months ago

I've been in the biz for over ten years now - I've worked for Inside Motorcycles, still do articles for Canadian Biker, cmgonline.com and my main gig is motorcycle columnist for the Toronto Star.

I'm pretty sure I know most of the players in the industry in Canada and I've never heard of this dude. My guess is it's someone living in his parent's basement making shit up.

motorpsycho67  says:
11 months ago

Mr. Licino is the biggest idiot ever to type a word in regards to a motorcycle. I bet he's a big Rush Limbaugh fan. Two peas in a pod.

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Jellyrug  says:
11 months ago

I guess we are all entitled to our opinions, but if we display intoxicated left field behavior to those who don't share our opinions, we are a little abnormal in society. Perhaps this guy is on the bottle; if we look further into his statistics we will notice that most, in some cases up to 60% of motorcycle fatalities are caused by 0.08% alcohol blood content and higher. Perhaps he is one of them, has just been lucky not to fall off his bike.

We are wasting our time with this idiot.

They say:

Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level of stupidity and beat you with the experience.

So, I am done with Hal

Knob Hater AKA BK  says:
11 months ago

You mate are a total KNOB A1 Fuckwit and wanker who knows nothing about riding or owning a motorcycle - most likly you are jealous of us MEN who ride past you everyday cos you dont have the balls to own or rideone yourself - COCKSUCKER

ed  says:
11 months ago

I posted this to Hal's page - let's see if he prints it:

"How ignorant. You don't like some bikes, you think they are un-neccessary, so you favor banning them.

How about you not buying one if you don't like them? There are many other people who think perfectly legal things you like are unneccessary - how would you feel if they were banned?

Irresponsible skiing can be dangerous, to both yourself and others on the slope - ban it!

Powerboats and jet skis have no brakes and can be dangerous when piloted irresponsibly - ban them!

Guns are easier to get than cars, yet are built to kill - ban them!

I think you're the one that needs to grow up. You trumpet one incident of car vs. bike with no details, yet you completely ignore the thousands of riders injured or killed every year by at-fault auto operators, usually those who turn left in front of bikes that have the right of way.

Where's the outrage there? Which is the greater hazard to life and limb?

You don't care about safety - you want to fan the flames, say outrageous things, up the traffic to your blog, get more hits. I understand that.

Hopefully the other readers here understand too."

kml  says:
11 months ago

Hal says all the post are banned due to bad language. Not all the posts, Hal.

"Ah... so many great comments and ALL DELETED DUE TO LANGUAGE."

You don't respond to my posts Hal, and I don't use dirty language, Hal.

What was your connection to Yamaha Hal? When you were a bike tester Hal.

Real journalist know the truth Hal, You make it all up Hal,

Bondo (Steve Bond Tronto star) says Yamaha never heard of you.

http://cmgonline.com/cgi-bin/soapbox/index751.cgi?

No bad language in this post Hal? Are you going to delete it Hal?

Or maybe you are just going to argue with children on the internet, behind your key board, hummmn Hal?

Man up and tell the truth.

kml

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blondepoet  says:
10 months ago

Haha cool hub.All the controversy blew me down the street.It's ok I am fine now I jogged back home lol.

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Jellyrug  says:
10 months ago

Hey Blondie,

What you doing here?

This is an old forgotton thread, just an old fella ( Hal Licino) who hates big motorcycles because he had a change of heart coming with older age.

Anyway, you are much to sweet and innocent to lurk here with the bikers, so let me go check out more of your hubs.

You heard about the two blonde girlies on Hayabusa motorcycles down in OZ?

They were facing each other on their bikes across a wide strong flowing river.

Suzie: "How do I get to the other side of the river????"

Jane: Looks up and down the river and thinks for a while.... "Hey Suzie, you know, I actually think you are on the other side of the river."

I landed on this hub thing because my motorcycle buddies steered me here to chat with Hal, because he does not like us.

Perhaps one day, I'll take out some time and publish a hub of my own.

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blondepoet  says:
10 months ago

Haha cool joke.Well you were nice enough to come to mine so I came to yours,then you came to mine again and here I am reading your comment to me.Aww sweet and innocent yes I tend to agree,it omits from my pores.I think you should publish one you certainly have the gift with the pen.Sweet dreams.

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blondepoet  says:
10 months ago

By the way Jellyrug did you read my reply to your question on What A Woman Wants,I had a great solution for you.

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Lgali  says:
10 months ago

good hub

steve  says:
9 months ago

that guy is a douche he wouldnt post my comments about his horrible family guy page way to call him out champ

OMG sent to Hal Licino  says:
8 months ago

Guys, Do you have nothing better to do than try to take our rights away? Anything can be dangerous in the wrong hands. If you buy a gun, It doesnt mean you are going to kill yourself or anyone else. Same goes for a Street Bike. Yea, they will go up too 200MPH, It doesnt mean everyone that has one does it. I have a Hayabusa, I Like going fast and so does most people that rides any motorcycle. I could kill myself or others just as easy on a Harley or a 600 Street bike going 100MPH. ITS NOT THE BIKE! ITS THE OPERATOR! I will ocasionally break the speedlimit but its on a deserted road with no traffic. In town or around others, I keep my speed reasonable. And Im sure that alot of bikers do the same. Some people are RETARDS! You cant Fix STUPID! If bikers want to kill themselves, let them, what do you care. If they are breaking the law, let the police handle it. dont try to ban all streetbikes because of a few accidents. I dont know all the stats but I am sure there are alot more things you should be complaining about. Over the Next Week, I want everyone to pay attention to vehicles around them, Every Vehichle if possible. How Many people do you see talking on Cell Phones? Reading a Map? reaching in the back seat or passenger seat? Eating? drinking? anything other than what they are supposed to be doing. How many wreckes are caused by all these things? How many people die? How many people cause an accident paying attention to what other people are doing rather than minding ther own bussiness. (now if you havent caused a wreck or killed anyone.) How many Hayabusa's or other street bikes did you come across that were going 100 + in traffic? I drive an average of 2 to 4 hrs a day and I am much more worried about other drivers around me than i am a motorcycle blowing by me at 160 MPH. Anyone Else feel this way? or is it just me and the Hayabusa Owners? How many wreckes have you come across? How many involved motorcycles? Im not saying you dont have your points.. cause you do. But Dont take away my rights cause you have a foul taste in your mouth. You dont see me trying to ban cigarrettes? How many people die from ciggarettes? Probably more than die from motorcycles. I hate cigarrettes, Ive watched too many family members die or cant breath cause they smoke. However its their responciblility, their rights. Come to think of it, No family members have died from motorcycle crashes. We should be educating these people. the last thing we need is another law. Most laws are for revenue anyhow. not to keep us safe. for example: I had a Wreckless Driving Ticket when I was younger for Spinning a Tire in my truck. $400 and Insurance premiums increased. however, I also got a loud and unseamly noise ticket for haveing my radio too loud for a cops listening pleasure. a whopping $999. Ticket for loud Noise. (seperate Ocassions). Hmmmm.. More laws anyone?

OMG sent to Hal Licino PRT 2  says:
8 months ago

I have just as much right to be there as you do. and on the vehicle of my choice. What dont you understand about that. because Hal seen one fatal crash, Everyone in the world should suffer. I guess we should kILL all the Deer in the world too. They just have no regard for motorist or human safety. whats wrong with them, running out in front of cars all the time. You are just a sad individual. If you are so concerned with your life, just lock yourself up in a padded room away from all the dangerous things in life. Me, I got some livin to do, you just wasted 4 hrs of my life. Thank you!

OMG sent to Hal Licino prt 3  says:
8 months ago

I Never said I had a right to violate the rules of the road or indanger others. I said I had a right to be their and to be on the vehicle of my choice. wich just so happens to be a v-8 Titan and a Hayabusa. Who are you to accuse every superbiker of breaking the laws and indangering others? This Hub is about you wanting to ban superbikes. and when someone argues a relative point, U change the subject and accuse of breaking laws and being wreckless. In Fact You know nothing about me or anyone else outside your lonely little mind. Now give me one good reason why Superbikes should be banned other than careless operators?

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Think I'll try my hand at poetry today:

Once there was a fellar

Rode his motorcycle stellar

So fast, could be powered by a turbo propeller

His name was Licino

He was as hot as a Jalapeno

Riding Superbikes was so great

For his next ride he just could not wait

He then fell off real hard

Because his ass became big from eating too much lard

Hal Licino

Was no longer hot as a Jalapeno

Those times were then

Today he is the size of Big Ben

He yearns to ride a superbike real bad

Yet ass is too big and now he is real mad

From eating too much lard

OMG  says:
8 months ago

Nice.. I might give it a try later.

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vipracing  says:
8 months ago

Mr OMG is right! The bike can be dangerous in the hands of the wrong person! but the bike is beautiful! it's nice to bring the bike up to 200 Kmh! the speed gives you a wonderful sense of well! turn,bend with the knee close to the road it's like an orgy! But I will like to give this advice for those who love to drive a sport bike: to go to ride in the circuit! it is safer and is also more fun.

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

And the song continues: Some more copy and pasting to keep things up to date.

Hal Licino says:7 days ago

I don't have facts? What the hell, dude? Are you pulling my leg? What part of READ THE IIHS STATS do you not understand? I'm tired of trying to get a simple fact through your thick skull. Make some coherent statements in your comments or I'll stop publishing them.

Smart with Busa motor: Racetrack toy for wankers with more money than brains. It might be fun for the hell of it, but what possible use can it have?

OMG says:7 days ago

Yea iM Pulling your leg, I agree with you. Sportsbikes should be banned. Everyone That rides one is a dumn criminal and all bystanders are in danger. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

and Im done, no more incoherent statements to publish. Good Luck to you and your cause.

Hal Licino says:7 days ago

Goodbye. Come back when you have something intelligent to add to the conversation. :)

Jason says:4 days ago

I bought a Hayabusa 3 days before stumbling on this site.

Im a conservative rider and dont ride fast or hard. Im 30 years old. I went from a 125cc scooter to a 125cc cruiser style bike untill I passed my test and grabbed myself a zzr600. 1 year on I have the Busa. I chose the busa so I could brag, for the build quality, for the power to tour with the wife, for the looks, for the feel and to piss off my best mate who thinks his Thundercat600 was the dogs nuts!

The bike Is not dangerous unless It's in the wrong hands. Maybe there should be an age limit of about 30 years old before you can drive over a certain Brake Horse Power or cc engine. I could have been a twat on the zzr600 at 165mph or even the cruiser 125cc at 70mph and yes! even the scooter at 60mph but I wasnt.

We could all spout statistics! My beef is Smoking, Which, in England kills 90,000 or so people a year! In fact, half the people who smoke here will die due to smoking.

Anyway! What Im trying to say is Hal Linco is right perhaps to be concerned and maybe a bit pissed off but what about all those high powered cars driven by 17 year olds, who like a lot of people, dont see bikes or concentrate on the road.

Like the smoker, I wouldnt like to be told what I can and cant do. The roads here in England are tiny and quaint compared to America or Australia and my Busa is happy at the slow end of the specrum, and due to the build quality, hopefully it will last me ages.

If an arrogant car driver doesnt kill me first!

vipracing says:4 days ago

I do not like the word "banned" you can not forbid other people to drive a sport motorcycle. I really like driving a sport motorcycle and I'm not longer a kid but still love to hear the thrill of speed. I agree that the motorcycle(especially sports one), but all the bikes are dangerous in the hands of a foolish on normal road or highway, but this is not a valid reason to prohibit them!I think it is better to educate them and give them the opportunity to meet their desire of speed on the track. Try the track! is fantastic

B says:4 days ago

You stated, "If he had run into the Fiat at a speed discrepancy of 10 or 20 mph, likely he would have just offed himself... oh, what a loss ;) The problem is that the speed discrepancy was closer to 100 mph and his engine ended up embedded in the dashboard. You cannot possibly defend that."

From this, we can safely deduce that your arguement is with motorcycles that can achieve a top speed of close to 100mph or greater, as you argue the difference in speed between the two objects in question is the cause of death - since motorcycle riders constantly move past objects that could have a speed of zero mph.

Therefore, would you argue that the "supersport" motorcycles in question would be considered safe if they had a speed limiter of 100mph? If not, is it the rate of acceleration that you believe is the cause, or a combination of the two?

In addition to that question, I would also pose that on the majority of two lane, non-divided roads in the USA, the top speed is no more than 45mph. With this said, two vehicles both traveling at the speed limit share a combined rate of acceleration towards each other of 90mph. Do you believe that this type of travel is just as unsafe as the rider in your example, since a head on collision between two vehicles - each traveling 45 mph - would cause similar effects to a collision of a vehicle traveling at 90mph against an object traveling at zero mph?

I look forward to your answers.

Jellyrug says:4 days ago

Over here in the US, they put us behind bars when we tripple the speed limit. We don't call them "national highways" we ride on "interstates".

What happens in Canada when you get caught trippling the speed limit?

Hal Licino says:14 minutes ago

Jason: Sorry to hear that I was 3 days too late! If you'd read this first you might now be perfectly happy on a nice 600! :) I fully agree with graduated licensing and it is refreshing and encouraging to see that suggestion come from a Busa owner. It goes to prove that not all Busaites are antisocial suicidal speed demons. Congratulations! I have just as much beef against supercar drivers as I have against superbike riders. If someone smokes (and they keep it away from me) I couldn't care less. It's their lungs, so they can die if they want. I don't want to join them though. And that also applies to supercar drivers and superbike riders on the street. NIMBY! Go to a track and splat yourself all you want. Don't do it on my street where my friends and family are innocently driving or walking around.

vipracing: Let me clarify what I intend by "banned:" Prohibited from street licensing. I would never state that supersports bikes should not be produced for the track. I love racing, both watching it and doing it... under sanctioned conditions. Again, NIMBY!

B: Shut up. I'm not going to engage in your stupid argument where you're trying to justify 200 mph superbikes on public streets by comparing them to head ons. The Fiat was doing close to the legal limit when the superbike killed them all. They were headed in the same direction not playing head on chicken. So, dude, take a hike.

Jellyrug: Don't lecture me on interstates, as I was hitting 160mph on them when you were still trying to figure out what the pedals did on your tricycle. What happens in Canada is the same that happens in any civilized country when you triple the speed limit. You go to jail. Now do you have anything interesting to add to the conversation or are you just blowing hot air out of your nether-regions?

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

A Canadian, doing 160 mph on our American interstates. How dare he do this in our country when he implies civilization should put him behind bars???

Now that is interesting, right?

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Hal Licino says:19 minutes ago

Do you just have a short attention span or are you demented? I've stated over and over again that I know exactly whereof I speak as I spent the better part of two decades riding around public highways like an lunatic on meth. However, all that ended many years ago and I'm expecting to pass on my maturity and judgment in what is a completely different age to the immature hot bike jerks who think it's still 1979.

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Actually, your English is not the best; it is not attention span we are talking about, but rather memory. I am good at both; however, my sense of humor is streets ahead of yours.

About the maturity part and you, another good laugh!!!

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Hal Licino writes:

Y'know... I've been on HubPages for over two years, and coming up on a thousand Hubs and a million page views. I thought I'd heard it all, but I have to admit that I have never had my command of the English language challenged. What can I say... a million readers are wrong and you're right according to you, Jelly! :P

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Now now Hal...

You see, we have totally different values.

Quote your writing:"B: Shut up. I'm not going to engage in your stupid argument where you're trying to justify 200 mph superbikes on public streets by comparing them to head ons." Unquote

According to my values, that is bad English, both in composition and manners.

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Hal Licino writes:

Manners? Go start your own Hub and then enforce whatever manners you want there. Don't come onto my page and tell me what to do. As for the composition, it is perfectly vernacular in context. What's your point? Do you have one or are you just trying to bust my chops? Do you have anything of value to add to the conversation about this Hub?

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Hal, did you miss something? I did start my own hub and it is all about you!!

Oh dear, I have offended you and I am so sorry that you feel your chops were busted.

Are you saying that no one who condones superbikes may come to your page, as they will be trying to enforce opinions which do not align with yours? And further, they won't have anything of value to add?

In your book Hal, considering your own stated poor past behavior, at what age do we reach mature reasoning and responsibility? I got there while still in my twenties, how about you?

Let's get back to subject of Superbikes:

If you know motorcycles, you will know that a 600 today is not much slower at completing the 1/4 mile than a superbike. Once we are above 125 mph any error in public will likely have disastrous consequences.

In bad English, you talk about riders "splattering" themselves at the track. If you have experience on the track, you will know that it is rather safe for even the irresponsible rider. There is very little "splattering". Reasons are no cars sharing the road, no vehicles coming from other directions, no intersections, use of the full width of the road, controlled conditions, enforcement of protective riding gear and training for novices who do it the first time. No statistics available to my knowledge, but I know of no fatalities outside of professional racing and only a few inside professional racing.

Unlike you, I have been responsible most of my life, and with track experience at around 190 mph and road behavior within the legal framework, using the same machine, I believe I have been less risk to public than you were in the past and will be in the future.

Unfortunately the opinions I consider valuable will not align with yours and your reactions will be attempts to flame all hubbies who disagree, or do not support your views.

Waiting patiently for your next flame, Jellyrug.

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

"Vernacular"

Sorry I missed it Hal.

Vernacular = the common spoken language of a people, as distinct from formal written or literary language.

The common language you use in your hub includes the following frases.

Are you demented?

Immature hot bike jerks.

Shut up. I'm not going to engage in your stupid argument.

I'm tired of trying to get a simple fact through your thick skull.

I don't have facts? What the hell, dude?

Racetrack toy for wankers with more money than brains.

The faster the world rids itself of resource-gluttonous leeches like you, the better off we'll all be.

Hal, Hal, Hal, I am sure were your grade school English teacher aware of your command in the English language, she would turn in her grave. I hope you don't mind, but I shall refrain from using your hub vernacular.

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

Hal Licino says:3 hours ago

Zzzzzzzzz... Getting it all off your chest? Good. Wake me up when you're done wasting HubPages' bandwidth. :)

Jellyrug says:3 hours ago

Darn!!!

I was expecting a big flame?

Hal, don't let me down now, keep it up, we are pushing your score to the 100 mark!!

C'mon Hal, keep it going, don't fall asleep on me now....

Hal Licino says:2 hours ago

Say something germane, apropos, relevant and/or pertinent, and I'll be happy to stay awake. :)

Jellyrug says:2 hours ago

How about I put a side pipe on my Busa and do a burn out in front of your house? You think that will wake you up?

Other than that I'm stuck my hubber friend, nothing else works...

Hal Licino says:2 hours ago

Typical Busa hothead... figures that blatant, puerile displays of excessive horsepower, speed, noise and smoke substitutes for manhood... I do feel sorry for these underendowed individuals who place decent, ethical, righteous, and blameless bystanders in peril every day so that they can engage in a game of my metal penis is bigger than yours on public roads. Tearing up their licenses, stripping off their plates and throwing them in jail is nowhere near enough to protect and safeguard the right to innocent motorist safety on our taxpayer funded highways.

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

LOL

Now that we have that out of the way, will you provide me with your street address, so we can do the burn-out?

I will pay for the camera, do you have a fire hose at hand?

PS. This hub now has a higher score than your own original hub, really funny!!!!

OMG  says:
8 months ago

Dude, I will make the trip with you..

I dont do burnouts but I would love to lay one down for him. lol

OMG  says:
8 months ago

Heres a few stats i ran across for you Hal. check out # 15. one in a thousand? hmmm.

http://www.motorcycle-accidents.com/pages/stats.ht

what about this one.. In 2007, 49% of bikers killed in crashes were age 40 or over. guess we should ban people over 40 from riding.. what do you think?

http://www.edgarsnyder.com/auto-accident/motorcycl

I can give you stats all day long.

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williamblake  says:
8 months ago

I want to buy a super bike how because not in my local area or not in my own city will you help me please

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Jellyrug  says:
8 months ago

William.

Explain a little more?

OMG  says:
7 months ago

LOL Thats funny!

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Paper Moon  says:
6 months ago

I am more of a cruiser guy myself, but want one with get up and go. Reason being? Most people killed on bikes are from cars. I have been run off the road on quite a few occasions. A little extra goose power can give you the extra time and inches to save your life, and possibly the lives of others.

Righteous hub.

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someonewhoknows  says:
6 months ago

It just so happens I watch tv from canada's channel 32 on saturday afternoons and they have this kids inventors show on every saturday called "Think big".Wouldn't you know this past saturday they had a seventeen year old teenager on who's father owned a machine shop.Turns out he is interested in motorcycles and accually invented a two wheel electric cycle where the two wheels are side by side instead of front and back.It has a handlebar,but it's not for steering,it's just to help you balance yourself.The steering is done electronically according to your body movement forward ,backward as well as side to side.The idea is you lean in whatever direction you want to go and a gyroscope controlled mechinism interpets what you want to do. It was very interesting.

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