Halo 3 sucks
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You know what one thing that gets me going more than anything is when Xbox 360 players say that Halo 3 is the best first-person shooter ever made. I have to say you guys are crazy first off, you have to be completely ignorant of the very history of the first-person shooter. Just because it was made for an Xbox does not make it the best first-person shooter ever. So I'm going to teach you guys a little bit on why Halo 3 sucks, how it's not an original game, and how there isn't anything special about Halo 3. It's just a carbon copy of the normal first-person shooter games. So first off, just to show you exactly how ignorant you are, let's start at the beginning,
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The very first, really big first-person shooter was Wolfenstein 3D. If you want to talk about groundbreaking then Wolfenstein 3D was definitely the most groundbreaking of the first-person shooters. It is literally in the grandpa of the first-person shooter genre, what's Awesome is the fact that IDSoft couldn't leave this stuff alone, so the very following year they brought out Doom.
These two are the games that literally the entire industry is now built upon. Without these key games the industry would have gone nowhere, but we also wouldn't have to put up with the cheap imitations like Halo 3.
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Now, if you think about it, Wolfenstein 3D and Doom really weren't 3D games. The next really big game that was released, also by IDSoft, was Duke Nukem 3D. Again not really a 3D game, it used a lot of 2D tricks to give it the appearance of being a 3D game, but we really didn't get a true 3D game until Quake came along.
This was way beyond what we had ever experienced before and it was so cool! Quake was built off of polygon graphics, not 2D sprites. You could literally look at all sides of an enemy. The other beautiful thing about Quake is that IDSoft actually encouraged user made modifications, where a user could come in at any given point in time and change how the game reacted, or add new maps.(I don't see Halo 3 being able to do that!)
Now I know you're probably thinking that it was a first when it came to console games. Again that's just not true.
If we want to talk about a console game that truly broke ground in the genre, as far as the first-person shooter is concerned, you better start looking towards Nintendo and for a game called Goldeneye 007. Sure is a game that truly gives you the multiplayer ability that the consoles have, but again the PC has always had better first-person shooters.
In 1998 Sierra released, what in my opinion, was the best first-person shooter at the time. It was definitely groundbreaking, and they made a truly spectacular game. That title was called Half Life. If you want to talk about where Halo 3 has gotten all of its ideas! In Half-Life, one of the creatures is called head crabs, which coincidently looks almost exactly like what the flood looks like in Halo. Copy Cats! They couldn't even come up with an original design!
If you don't believe me just go pick up the High-Resolution pack of Half-Life. You will see that this is a game that has been around long, long before Halo ever thought of being made. And almost all of the ideas that Bungee got for their game came almost directly from Half-Life. Almost all of the content of Halo has was ripped almost completely out of Half-Life.
People talk about how in Halo you have the ability to drive vehicles. Well that sort of stuff has been around for ages too, Unreal Tournament 2004 had vehicles. They also had capture the flag and better yet assault game modes.
Conclusion
Just saying in conclusion, Halo fan boys, do not bother to claim your sub-par game is the best game in the world, it just shows how truly ignorant you are. The story, the graphics and the game play are absolutely nothing new. So before you start getting on my case about what I've said, I hope that you do your homework, and don't come to with me with irrational claims. The simple fact is that Halo doesn't do anything new and doesn't advance the genre at all.
Halo would be nothing without its predecessors, and proper respect should be paid to them. So all you Fan boys out there, do your home work, and realize that Halo is not the end all, be all, of first-person shooters. There are many, much better games out there.
Don't believe me? Go play Half-Life 2 because that is a game that is truly amazing and is really pushing the limits . One that has earned more than 40 Game of the Year Awards, and is a true groundbreaker and a leader in the industry.
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Why do people like halo3 multiplayer? It has like what... 8 players max? I've been playing 64+ players online since Battlefield 1942.
You might want to acknowledge Bungie's previous FPS expearience wih the Marathon series. Marathon 1, 2 and infinity were, although released a year or two after Doom, technically superior and introduced a lot of FPS mechanics that Doom didnt. Marathon featured free mouselook when Doom players were still on the keyboard. Marathon had weapons with secondary triggers and dual weilding. Marahton's multiplayer component was also much more advanced than doom and a majority of the Halo gametypes are merely Marathon gametypes, reporposed for Halo.
You also didnt bring up the fact that Halo3 is just that, number 3. Of course it isnt groundbreaking, its simply a sequel. The original Halo had a lot to offer to the FPS genre. I still feel Halo has some of the most fun vehicle physics and predates UT2004 which was far from the first FPS with vehicles. The eternally bug prone Codename Eagle let 32 people play with vehicles and guns around the time of Quake3. The HL2 buggy is cool, but does it climb over boulders and never get permently stuck in level geometry?. Halo featured a real dedicated Grenade button, something that I couldn't live without. Sure it wasnt the best FPS to date but you have to acknowledge its merits.
I dont own an Xbox of any kind and I love Half-Life and think its a great game, but I think your hatred of Halo3 is a bit misguided and you need to know more of your FPS history before you make claims of Bungie's unoriginality.
Ok, well you might be right about Bungie's earlier games but you have to ask yourself if what they are doing now is all that wonderful. They are not pushing the genre. but i have to give props to Dark Messiah Of Might and Magic. They would have had a killer game if they had taken the time to fixed the bugs, but they got impatient and killed the game in the process, but at least they were pushing the envelope.
The purpose of this is to knock the fan-boys back into place, Because I just get tired of hearing about how good Halo 3 is.
PS. to Finch: Who has ever heard of the "Marathon series"? If it was as big as you said then I and others would have heard about it!
Randohero4507 I have denied your post, If you wish to make a more civil comment you can, and are encouraged to do so, but i do not tolerate rude and offensive behavior. This is your first warning next time I will report you .
Not many people heard about Marathon because it was only for Mac. Bungie used to be a Mac developer before they moved on to PC and then Xbox, one of the only good mac developers so the series was incredibly popular among the 20 or so people that owned macs and played games in the late nineties. Marathon 2 was ported to PC but it was years after its Mac release and by that time Quake was on the scene so it kind of got lost. I played them because my dad owned a mac at the time and it was the only computer in my house.
As for Bungie now, I agree that they arent really revolutionizing anything except their multiplayer browser system. Although nobody else is either. ID software hasnt improved anyhting but graphics quality since Quake. Crysis, although amazing, isn't really revolutionary. The last revolutionary FPS I can think of was Theif: The Dark Project. Even Half-Life 2 isnt really revolutionary in its actual gameplay until you introduce the gravity gun (Portal, on the other hand is a step forward, and a big one at that). Without the gravity gun Half life 2 is pretty similar to everything else, except that its incredibly well done and polished to perfection. I think while Half-Life 2 is the best slow paced singleplayer game at the moment, Halo 3 is the best fast paced silly arcadey feeling multiplayer FPS at the moment (Sorry UT3 I just dont like you that much). Its not really an advancement in any way, just well polished stupid fun. Like Quake3, which I still prefer to Halo.
As for Marathon, if youve got some free time you owe it to yourself to play it. The whole series is availble for free and through the Aleph One frontend is perfectly playable on Windows. Get the Marathon files here http://trilogyrelease.bungie.org/ and Aleph One here http://source.bungie.org/
Enjoy!
Thanks Finch, great post you have taught me some thing thank you i will definitely check out the games. I hope that you continue to comment on my Hubs I know that I can get some stuff wrong. I appreciate you helping me out and giving me good, solid comments on the topic without being derogative
Cyberburnz
Marathon has to be one of the worst games ever. Just trying to play it now makes you want to throw up. Halo 3 is extremely over hyped and overrated. I have been saying that about halo 2 though as well. Sure it had great CONSOLE online play, but the community and online commeradory have been there and far stronger for other games... Like counter strike, or TFC. Halo three is just riding the wave of other games and is trying to dumb down and market a cult-like following that other games deserve far more.
It's about the community and the integration.
Very good arguement.
Even as a FPS fan I still cant grasp why people claim Halo as the god of FPS games. And in my mind putting a game with a mediocre singleplayer story and unoriginal multiplayer gameplay in such a high position is an insult to the other FPS games that are truly great.
Cheers!
kerbyninja
Just to tell you that id software never made Duke3d. 3d Realms did, along with Rise of the Triad. Don't forget about Raven's Heretic, Hexen, Soldier of Fortune series, as well as star trek voyager elite force. Ritual did SIN. That's all I could think of for now.
thanks that is a mistake that i will fix
It has been my experience that when people say "the best (whatever) of all time" what they really mean is the best (whatever) they've experienced. Many of the Halo fans are quite young and the series might be their first exposure to the FPS genre. Because of the nostalgia effect a person is more likely to judge their first experience with something as the best despite any objective facts. Couple this with the indomitable Microsoft marketing machine and like magic you've conjured "the greatest fps ever". Furthermore, the under 20 crowd these days seems given to obnoxious hyperbole. Excessive use of the word "awesome" and "the best (whatever) ever" are running rampant.
Now I've played the Halo series and it's fun, and I especially like the music. The games have high production values and are relatively polished. Does this make them the best, greatest, most revolutionary, most insert you favorite out of control adjective here? Absolutely not. Most gamers over 30 know the origins of the fps genre as well as the milestones like Doom, Quake, Half-Life, and great crossover fps titles like Descent and Battlezone (1999). However, may I suggest that what really "sucks" are the innumerable legions of vulgar Halo fanboys who's myopic devotion to the series results in violent behavior when the legendary status of their beloved game is challenged. What's worse is that because I'm a working adult and my playtime is MUCH more limited than most of these annoying little urchins, they're all better than me, grrrrrr!!! God bless whoever came up with the mute button. :-)
Just like Blizzard did with WoW and mmorpgs, Halo didn't really invent anything new for the genre but they did make it more accessible than ever before. Back in the day, before broadband, we had lan parties where some technical skill was required before you could enjoy headshotting your buds. Furthermore, network multiplayer code was in its prepubescence and you had to patch, tweak and reboot your way to a good time. These days all the kiddies have to do is plugin and turn on. By increasing the number of online players, as well as the ease with which they are able to do so, you naturally increase the number of players who have no real appreciation for multiplayer gaming since they never had to apply any effort to the experience. This naturally leads to a since of entitlement which, as we all know, breeds a bunch spoiled tantrum bags playing the game. I sympathize with your frustration and can only hope that the blessing of maturity will shield you from a bunch of annoying fanboys ruining your good time. Remember, everyone younger than you is a noob. ;-)
Clearly a touchy subject! If only such passion could be bottled and sold at a premium - You'd be rich!
I am not a big fan of Half-Life, mosty because I am impatient. Halo 3 is my favorite game off all time, along with Bioshock and CoD4. It is always about blowing stuff up and shooting things CONSTANTLY! That keeps my attention. Also I want you to watch 3 or 4 videos on youtube. They are by a little kid called OblivionHero522. He says why he thinks Halo 3, Gears of War, Orange Box and another game (forgot) sucks, I'm gonna go and slander him again.
When I first played Halo 3, I wasn't massively impressed. However, after playing multiplayer (online) for a few hours, I really began to see why people like it. It's just pure fun!
You're right that Halo 3 doesn't really do anything particularly new, but what it does do is brilliant. It's not deep and, despite what some will say, it's not overly tactical, but it is a great deal of fun.
That said, I found the single player mode to be very average - but that may be because I'm not that into the Halo series and didn't really get into the story.
Halo series sucks. Another sample of overhyped software that has NOTHING new to offer to the genre. I agree with cyberpunz in EVERYTHING he said.
Thats enough: Halo sucks!
Ok, first off.. Unreal 2004, was released in 2004, Halo Ce was released in 2001/2002, even though there were "Drivable situations" in games before.
Quite clearly, you have not actually played this game the way it was meant to, For Fun. Bungie even admit their story is crap, and make remarks ingame at the expense of themselfs.Halo, while hyped, is well deserving, sure, the story is nothing new, but who plays a game for the story? The physics are cool, the weapons extreme, and the Replayability outdoes any other FPS I have seen to date..Seriosly, the REAL problem is the Uptight COD community, Who claim Halo to be a terrible game. Jesse, if you want to be tactical, go play COD4. Halo is purely for teh Lulz.. If you want a tactical shooter, Play COD, if you want a Large game, Play battlefield, If you are person looking for Driving/Shooting/Stunting/Punting/Fun.. Play Halo3.You pose a stupid, lingering argument, Its not like this is anything new.In short, miss out on everything fun to play REELISTIK LYFE SODER ACTAWN, Im going to snipe some Flood, And have a Good time.
well halo is far from the best game,there is so much wrong with halo online its not even funny..But bungie is garbage neway,Its there fault there is cheaters..and there is just so much wrong with the game and they worry bout making more sucky buggy maps instead of fixing the game itself....They need to understand there maps are garbage and kno 1 like them....Also why is bungie the only game creator that has no phone numberor anything...I wonder why that is...lol they kno how many people would complain about it...
HAHAHAHA!
Do you have no life sir?
All you have accomplished is writing a really long OPINION on how Halo is not the best game ever.I also do not believe that Halo 3 is the best game ever.
Yet, you sir are an asshole.
All you have accomplished is writing down the history of first person shooters, and have not provided and evidence on the fact that Halo 3 is not the best First person shooter ever. Nor have you proved that there are any games comparible to it.
Though I am the last person to argue with somebody who has a dislike for Halo 3..
You sir are an asshole...Nuff said...
Halo 3 revolutionized many of the "things that have been around for so long"
Halo vehicles are much better than unreal tournament vehicles, incoprorated with physics sytems (It is like comparing a bag of dog shit to a bag of delicious muffins)
You sir are the ignorant one, brush up on your awesomeness, because you are apparently lacking it
p.s. You confused me on whether you were talking about whether halo was, " the best first-person shooter ever made" , or "the best game in the world"...
By the way, i was directly quoting you, in case you weren't smart enough to figure that out...
Im sorry if i pointed out that you are an asshole so many times, I just wanted to help you realize it, everyone else already has.
Sincerely, Kevin
@ Kevin "All you have accomplished is writing a really long OPINION on how Halo is not the best game ever.I also do not believe that Halo 3 is the best game ever."
If you don't think that Halo3 is the best FPS ever made, then shut the fuck up. The guy wrote this because of ignorant fanboys.
Just because Halo3's vehicles are better than UT, it doesn't mean that Halo3 revolutionized anything, Bungie only took the idea and made it better, cyberburnz only says they didn't do anything new.
Judging by your smart ass comments and insults, it's clear that you were behaving like a kid, you're the one that should get a life.
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ryan says:
5 months ago
I don't think most people find it to be the best shooter ever. What is so awesome about and what people don't get about it is the multiplayer. Nothing new or revolutionary but there is an awesome community and bungie's system for getting into games is awesome and simple. It makes for a hassle free fun experience this is why I continue to enjoy Halo 3 over any other shooter that is the multiplayer. The single player is a footnote