Hermann Goering and American Politics

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By Chef Jeff

From the Santa Barbara War Memorial

From the Santa Barbara War Memorial
From the Santa Barbara War Memorial

Lessons from the Past

 

"Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." [Hermann Goering]

Why does this Real Politik sound so familiar? Do you think that some of President Bush's advisors, wittingly, or unwittingly, followed this advice to get us embroiled in Iraq?

Those of you who know me understand that I supported, and still support, the war in Afghanistan. I firmly believe that when al Qaeda existed there as a client of the former Afghan Taliban regime, it was legitimate to go after them. I have no problem with our presence in Afghanistan.

However, I DO have a major disagreement with our presence in Iraq. I have yet to see any evidence that we needed to go there. Yes, Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator, and thousands died under his regime, but haven't thousands died in the fighting since? Also, there is that nasty bit of reality that when Saddam was our dictator, he was a good guy. He was, after all, against Iran, and since the fall of the Shah, our government has always been against Iran.

I would be remiss if I didn't point out that the sectarian violence and ability of al Qaeda to easily move into Iraq were all results of removing the brutal dictator from power. Nation building is not like playing with a jigsaw puzzle. One piece does not necessarily join to another to make a sound, complete picture. In Iraq the pieces appear not to fit together at all.

Ah, but what about the nuclear bombs? Some of my friends continue to tell me that Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction (WMD), including the nukes, were transported to Syria. Possibly some lower grade chemical or biological weapons might have been, but I do believe we would have seen any movement of nukes, knowing that our intelligence capabilities are sophisticated enough to track convoys coming and going from "known weapons factories and depots" our leaders told us about when they justified this quagmire.

Also, there is that inconveniently broad definition of what constitutes a WMD. People automatically assume (and are often lead to believe) that it means mainly his alleged nuclear capabilities, and while the definition of WMD does indeed include nuclear, Saddam's weaponry was, to the best of our intelligence assessment, limited to chemical & poorly developed biological, such as "anthrax bombs" that reportedly would not have been very effective. Yes, he would have been interested in nuclear, and was apparently working on strengthening his low-grade biological arsenal, but the assumption for our going to war involved the specter of the nuclear fear that Saddam was actively producing nuclear weapons and would be ready to use them in a very short period of time.

Democrats were fooled by this slight-of-hand, too, so I can't blame Republicans alone. But if one is told a lie by a government agency that is supposed to only tell the truth, then one tends to believe the lie until it is proven false. And when the lie comes from "the buck stops here" office of the President, then who is willing not to believe it?

All the pundits who now cry out that Kerry and Clinton and other Democrats voted for giving the President the war option fail to also state that we, all of us, were patently lied to. There was no obfuscating the facts that our highest leaders lied and then lied again, and, apparently, continue to lie to us even today, some 5 years and more after this war began.

And now that some responsible people in Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, repudiate the reasons for our war in Iraq, these same pundits call them traitors.

Worse yet, when members of congress dare to mention the alleged involvement of Mr. Bush in this scheme, the attack dogs call the critics traitors and demand they pay a price for their criticism. I now quote one of my favorite presidents, Teddy Roosevelt: "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

I have to state that I am not alone in believing that we were lied to, and continue to be lied to, concerning our ongoing involvement in Iraq. Just recently two former government officials who worked in Iraq came out and stated publicly that the corruption in the Iraqi government under Nouri-al Malaki is rampant, and that our own efforts to stop it were comical, at best.

Arthur Brennan, former head of the Office of Accountability and Transparency, (OAT) said concerning our State Department meddling in OAT's mission "...not only contradicted the anti-corruption mission but indirectly contributed to and has allowed corruption to fester at the highest levels of the Iraqi government." The U.S. embassy "effort against corruption - including its new centerpiece, the now-defunct Office of Accountability and Transparency - was little more than 'window dressing,'" Brennan added. (Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080512/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq_corruption )

So, how many more lies will we accept? How much more will our nation accept? Recently John McCain (and President Bush as well) said it would not be wise to support a revision to the G.I. Bill because it would be too costly. How much has this war already cost us? Well, simply put, it has cost us more than 4,000 lives and billions upon billions of dollars.

Also recently the Fort Bragg barracks of one of the 82nd Airborne were found to be far below substandard. (Source: http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1140 ) Is this how we show support and patriotism for our troops fighting in Iraq? Is this the government's way of telling us we all need to be patriotic?

And concerning our facilities in Iraq & Afghanistan, more than a dozen soldiers were electrocuted while showering in their barracks in those sorry nations. Why? Allegedly because of shoddy building construction by an American company hired to build the facilities. And that company would be? Houston based KBR, which until last year was known as Kellogg, Brown and Root, and which was at the time a subsidiary of, guess who - Halliburton.

Jeffrey Bliss, an electrician working over there recalled the KBR excuse. "The excuse KBR always used was, 'This is a war zone - what do you expect?' " He added his own thoughts. " But if you are going to do the work, you have got to do it safe."

(Source: http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2008/05/04/kbr-allegedly-behind-soldier-electrocutions/ ) and (http://www.twincities.com/national/ci_9145057?source=rss )

I would add, if you are going to go to war, then plan it right, and know what the expectations are, when they will be met, and build your case based upon the truth. I consider it is a national shame that there are so many people who still refuse to believe the truth about the lies we were fed by those who, from the start, seemed to want to pick a fight with Iraq for reasons only they can explain.


This is an interesting video, whether you believe it or not. I make no judgements on its contents, but it does raise questions in my mind.

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Constant Walker profile image

Constant Walker  says:
2 months ago

Jeff, please send that Roosevelt quote to the red-neck, country music community who so loudly denounced Natalie Maines and The Dixie Chicks as traitors for criticizing Bush. When it is was they, in fact, whose actions were treasonous.

It is not only our right as Americans to speak out against our President or any other elected official whom we believe to be corrupt, but our responsibility. To do otherwise is unpatriotic and un American.

Good hub!

Constant Walker profile image

Constant Walker  says:
2 months ago

Actually, send this whole article to at least one newspaper in every state in the U.S.

dlarson profile image

dlarson  says:
2 months ago

Jeff - another good hub! You want to know where Bush got his advice that so closely followed Goering? I recommend this bit of family history video...

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Constant Walker profile image

Constant Walker  says:
2 months ago

dlarson; It was the movie "Network" which sparked my paranoia and distrust of the government all those many many years ago. I am proud to say I still hold firmly on to that mistrust. Thanks for the link, I forwarded it to every one I know.

Constant Walker profile image

Constant Walker  says:
2 months ago

dlarson, is there any media in America which actually reporting truth?

Chef Jeff profile image

Chef Jeff  says:
2 months ago

Well, I am addicted to NPR, which I know many of my friends on the Conservative side of things deplore. Still, I find that the reporting is pretty good, and when they make a mistake, they are quick to point it out. I find this refreshing in an age of loud and inaccurate "When we mess up, we'll blame you!" news casting.

I also enjoy the fact that the NPR people are actually reporters, have degrees in journalism, and stick to the mandates of reporting the news, not merely opining & whining over the stories they report.

I see that many of the most "popular" people on the various cable news networks are NOT journalists, and some even revel in the fact that they aren't. Glenn Beck comes to mind. A down-home folksy kind of guy who has his mind made up so don't confuse him with an alternative view that may be more correct than his own.

In truth, I find very little reporting and a lot of opinion and bias on most cable networks, starting with FOX and MSNBC. CNN seems to be less biased, but that depends on who is reporting what. I also guess I don't consider fair & balanced as having a few Conservative beat up on a few Liberals. I'd rather have the unadorned facts than somene's opinion of what I should believe.

I still trust PBS and NPR a lot more than most other sources, even when I think they may be showing bias of one sort or another. I guess I believe their bias in unintentional, compared with other news outlets that seem to want to steer me to one pointof view or another.

Chef Jeff profile image

Chef Jeff  says:
2 months ago

I added the video that was recommended by several fans to this hub. I do not know if I agree with everything pointed out in the video, but I do think it makes many important points. Can anyone comment on the veracity or falsehood of ideas and accusations raised in the video?

As a veteran of the Viet Nam era, I learned many things then and still more since then about the futility and foolishness of that war. We also had a hand in creating the situation that bred hatred for ther French in IndoChina, especially right after the war when we were blinded by our paranoia of Communism.

One man I knew who was in Saigon told me that right after the war we rearmed the Japanese POWs and made them police in Viet Nam. The equivalent of this in our own historical perspective might be if we had rearmed the Hessians after the American Revolution, making them our standing army.

dlarson profile image

dlarson  says:
2 months ago

I'll admit that I so distrust government these days that I no longer listen to "news". I get my news on the internet or local newspaper exclusively, then I research the stories of interest on the web to get all sides of the issue that I can. Google has made this very easy. I have lived without a TV for over 5 years now and I don't miss it one bit! Only recently have I turned off the radio. Like Jeff, I listened mostly to NPR but I also listened to conservative talk shows (Michael Savage was one of my favorites but I couldn't stand Limbaugh). Being in the Portland, OR area, I also listened occassionally to Lars Larson who I understand is now syndicated.

As a business man, I can only tell you one bit of advice that never seems to fail. FOLLOW THE MONEY. If there's a new law, a war, or even a local Public project that is being discussed or approved, you can bet that SOMEBODY connected is going to make a lot of money from it. Nothing happens in our society without somebody behind it who will benefit from it. I work with developers, jurisdictions, and agencies and I've seen what I would once have called "dirty deals". Now that my naive eyes have been opened by experience, I see these deals everywhere, in almost every project that happens. Its just the way things work. So when I read that "Oregon and Washington have agreed on the need for a new I-5 Bridge" (which is NOT needed), my gut instinct is that the Contractor has already been chosen OR that it will pass through somebody's land which will have to be purchased at top dollar. SOMEBODY who is connected to these decision makers is going to make a LOT of money from this deal - and you and I (the tax payers) are the ones whose money they're taking.

Chef Jeff profile image

Chef Jeff  says:
2 months ago

Follow the money is good advice, and it works for all politicians. I want to believe that we can pull ourselves up from the mire, elect presidents who have very little agenda baggage, who owe no one but the American people, but I know that I am being naive.

Still, I'd like to see government officials remember that they serve us, not vice versa.

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