Herpes Cure
67Herpes Cure
Nowadays, with the help of modern science, there is always hope that the progress towards a herpes cure is not far away. A cure for herpes would transform the lives of millions of sufferers and is long overdue.
There are medications your doctor can prescribe to help the symptoms of herpes. Natural treatments can help those who suffer by controlling symptoms until a cure for herpes is found. Adequate hydration is probably the most natural herpes cure.
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If infected with the herpes virus, there are many treatment options available. Researchers continue to investigate the virus to help develop better treatments, a vaccine, and a herpes cure. Certainly there are now several treatments available to control herpes outbreaks. Remember to drink plenty as this may help if you are having difficulty passing urine due to pain. Ice wrapped in a towel and placed on the sores can be soothing.
When I was searching the net for a herpes cure I found plenty of help and information available that would enable sufferers to enjoy life and loving relationships. You know what it's like to suffer an outbreak.
Beside the mental stress and anxiety,there's the physical symptoms of the pain of passing urine ( like razorblades ) and the infernal itching and sores.
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Kim: Hi... yes nice to see you back here again too (although it's too bad that neither one of us is cured yet). Quite some time has passed... I thought I was cured from resolve and left the hub for a while. When my OBs came back after a few months, I thought I'd check out the hub again and see if there has been any success stories. Well, I can't be too angry with resolve. I have to admit that it's been the best suppressant I've experienced yet. But yeah, I now know that it's not the cure they say it is.
SH
Oz: Just an opinion. I did the MMS thing to 2x18 drops. Then the protocol from JH changed to 3x15. Problem is once you get to 2x15 there is no way to add a third dose without problems. Virtually every blog I've read indicates the writer dropped their MMS protocol while trying to add a third dose! I haven't found any exceptions!
I documented my experience in a daily blog. I eventually decided instead of 2x15-18 I'd drop back to 3x10 and build slowly from there. Finally got to 3x15 and reached a point where the drops had little or no affect on me.
My advice? Start at three doses per day of 1-2 drops per dose and build from there. DO NOT FOLLOW ANY PREDITERMINED SCHEDULE OR PROTOCOL!!! Add one drop a day as long as you have no problem. (Not an extra drop per dose... a drop a day!)I stayed at 3x15 for two weeks and then decided it was enough. Not sure that was a wise decision.... just what I did!
Just a proviso. Watch out for advice from people who never reached 3x15. There seems to be lots of people who did 2x15 and then bailed. Somehow they think that makes them an expert on higher doses.
Good luck! Cheers!
Denni....what I have found are the people that don't take responsibility for their actions, always try to blame others or deflect the attention on something else....my advice is to keep looking ahead to the exciting new career you have in nursing and your quest of being cured....take care
Kim....thanks for calling me yesterday....I always feel good when I can be your sounding board....God knows I owe you big time for all the therapy phone calls you've gotten from me...Love ya big sis
Ava.....Yes we are moving right along.....glad to have you on this journey with me as well
Oz....So good to hear from you...Kim did a great job of explaining how you increase the doses....for me I started out at 2 drops and I took the same amount in the evening...so far this is working fairly well for me....I am presently at 14 drops twice a day (and I take it with water only)......I will keep you posted on my progress.....
Take care everyone
Oz....forgot to add...I increased my drops one drop per day...hope that helps
I had to take a few days off from MMS....it made me so sick. Today, I am doing 6 drops this morning and 7 drops tonight.
Like R says, do it until you can't take it and then drop back down and start over. I am still doing the oil of oregano on my spine too.
October 1 is the big testing day for Cali and me.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Hi Guys,
Thanks to everyone that got back to me with my questions, I really appreciate it :)
A couple of questions i had weren't answered so if someone could answer that would be great.
1. What do I take the MMS with?
2. Can you drink alcohol while taking MMS or should you completely stay off it?
3. Do you think I can use the MMS bottle I ordered about 14 months ago? Should I order a new one?
Canada - Thanks so much for your post, have you been cured since using MMS or can you at least tell me what your thoughts are about MMS and how useful it is?
Thanks again everyone!!
One last thing team-
Does anyone know if Toothpaste works on Coldsores to make them heal quicker??
Thanks
OZ: I'm no expert but I'd say if your MMS hasn't crystalized then you should be good to go. It is just disolved salts. If it has crystalized then you can warm it it slightly to disolve the crystals back into solution.
My history is all on my blog so I won't bore everyone with it here. The instructions for MMS can be downloaded in book form from any number of Jim Humble's sites. If you have trouble finding it drop me your email and I'll send it to you. The short answer is to drink it with juice with low or zero vitamine C. Vitamine C nutralizes the MMS. The longer answer is that JH now says you can dilute it with as much liquid as you wish... so H2O may be fine!
I'm a Guinness drinker, and there is no way I'd drop it for MMS. Having said that while doing my protocol I didn't much feel like drinking, and when I overdidit a couple of times the outcome wasn't good! ;o)
Cured? Well I haven't had an outbreak since using MMS. But I often went long periods without an outbreak, so who knows. Last year was my worst with 3 O/B's. I keep my blog up to date with any news pertaining to O/B's,treatment, and testing.
Cheers!
Kathleen
Since staring with the VSC stuff have you had any OB's at all?
Hey everyone, hope y'all r doiing well. Pls, does anyone know how much Dr.Sebi's program cost n how long to take it b4 being cured? Also, the medivair n mms, how much are they n how long are you supposed to be on it b4 being cured.pls, any info will be greatly appreciated. i really am sick n tired of this h!
Denni: Wow! I can't believe that ???? (I don't know what to call him!) is still walking around! I would have loved to see the woman's face. At least she now knows what kind of animal she's with.
Jessica: Check out amazon.com. My daughter pointed me there (I would have never thought about buying supplements there) Amazon.com has amazing prices for VSC. I just ordered some of the concentrated capsules (you take 1-2 a day) for my son (& me!). He has a very weakened immune system. Within the last 2 yrs he caught mono & H. I'm really worried about him catching the flu & being too sick to go to classes. He doesn't know it yet, but I'm going to try to keep him on VS-C for 6 months & then get him tested for H. He's only had one coldsore so far, so I'm hopeful. I know he wants to be cured. I had him taking the VSC liquid many months ago & he loved it. It just ran out too quickly! I want to see how good the TCM version of VSC works. Did I tell you the antibiotics I recently took caused me a major yeast infection? Well, I nipped it this past weekend with the 1 day monistat. Prayerfully I will make it to the the alt doc this time without any issues.
I believe that we will be cured. I maintain that silver & VSC are key.
I'm trying a lot of things, including ozone therapy, oil of oregano, PB 8, coconut oil, calcium, cayenne/garlic mix, monolaurin from Ecological Formulas, Sovereign Colloidal Silver and VS-C. Among other things.
I am told that VS-C does eradicate the virus after taking it daily for 3 to 6 months! I don't get OB's when I take VS-C. But I want to switch to Silver Shield based on what Jessica says about it. I'd like to know more about Silver Shield and VS-C. I just heard that they work so that's good enough for me to try them.
Copied from the web:
VS-C TCM Concentrate, Chinese contains the same herbs found in VS-C but in a highly concentrated blend. This immune-supporting formula is a combination that Chinese herbalists would describe as a "metal-enhancing" formula. These herbs create a favorable environment for microbial balance and overall health, support detoxification and promote a healthy respiratory tract. It contains the following time-honored botanicals: Dandelion whole plant Purslane tops, Indigo leaves and root, Thlaspi whole plant, Bupleurum root, Typhonium rhizome, Scute root, Cinnamon twig, Licorice root, Ginseng root. Take 1 or 2 capsules with a meal daily.
VS-C is a Chinese herbal combination which strengthens immunity against bacterial and viral infections, including extremely contagious diseases.
VS-C contains herbs which provide powerful antibacterial, antimicrobial, anti-parasitic, and antiviral activity against numerous pathogenic organisms. vsc also targets associated symptoms, including lowering fever, reducing swelling and inflammation, relieving pain, relaxing muscle spasms, purifying the blood, and eliminating toxins. VS-C is best used as a preventative measure, but can also be taken at the first sign of symptoms and throughout illness.
VS-C can be used for the treatment of abdominal pain and distension (bloating), blood poisoning, chest constriction, diarrhea, dysentery, encephalitis, gastroenteritis, hemorrhages, herpes simplex virus, infectious hepatitis, influenza, intestinal parasites/worms, malaria, measles, meningitis, mumps, upper respiratory tract infections, Salmonella, Shigella, skin diseases, sore throat/throat infections, Staphylococcus, Streptococcus, swollen glands, tonsillitis, painful urinary dysfunction and infection, and abnormal uterine bleeding.
Numerous testimonials have also reported the effectiveness of VS-C for treating candidiasis, herpes, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS). VS-C is commonly used against adenitis, candidiasis, canker/cold sores, hepatitis, inflammation of the lymph glands, inflammatory skin conditions, tonsillitis, and viral infections, including Epstein-Barr virus (mononucleosis),
VS-C liquid is formulated in an alcohol-free glycerin base.
Bupleurum root provides both antiseptic and anti-depressant effects, and reduces fever, inflammation, and pain. Bupleurum also affects the circulatory system by lowering blood cholesterol and triglyceride levels, inhibiting fat cell production in the liver, and reducing liver inflammation. Bupleurum also exhibits antiviral activity. Bupleurum is commonly used for abdominal distension (bloating), angina pains, constriction in the chest, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, dysmenorrhea, epilepsy, hemorrhoids, herpes simplex, indigestion, inflammatory skin conditions, irritability, lung congestion, malaria, muscle cramps, PMS, menstrual problems, sluggish liver, tumors, uterine prolapsed, and vertigo.
Cinnamon twig stimulates circulation and the production of digestive fluids, induces perspiration to lower fever, promotes urine flow, relaxes muscle spasms, and acts as an analgesic (pain-reliever) and antiseptic. In fact, this herb is regarded as a general stimulant for the circulatory, digestive, respiratory and urinary systems. Cinnamon twig is often used for abdominal pain, amenorrhea, angina pain, arthritis, cold hands/feet, colds, dysmenorrhea, dyspepsia, dysuria, edema, fatigue, and flu.
Dandelion root has been shown to help the liver and gallbladder filter out toxins and purify the blood, as well as stimulate the kidneys to eliminate toxins through the urine. Dandelion contains enzyme like compounds which assist cell metabolism and increase bile secretion in the liver. As a result, dandelion inhibits bile duct inflammation, cirrhosis, dyspepsia with constipation, gallstones, hepatitis and jaundice. Other research shows dandelion exhibits anti-inflammatory properties and restricts the development of an enlarged or swollen liver. In essence, all glands associated with digestive function respond quickly and effectively to dandelion. Dandelion provides viscous fiber which absorbs toxins from the bowel, balances intestinal flora, lowers serum cholesterol, reduces bowel transit time, and soothes digestive tract tissues. Dandelion is also a source of bitter flavonoids which purify the blood, increase urine flow, relieve inflammation and muscle spasms, and provide a mild laxative action. The herb is especially beneficial for spleen ailments and for eliminating uric acid buildup. Dandelion has also been used to treat acne, age spots, anemia, eczema, frequent urination, heartburn, psoriasis, rheumatism, urinary disorders, water retention, chronic joint complaints, including gout and osteoarthritis, and edema resulting from high blood pressure and heart weakness.
Indigo herb reduces inflammation and fever, purifies the blood, dissolves foreign masses, and exhibits pronounced antiviral activity against severe contagious diseases, especially those associated with the throat and lungs. Indigo herb has also been shown to provide antibacterial activity against Salmonella typhi, Neisseria meningitidis, and leptospirosis. Indigo herb is used in the treatment of abscesses and swellings, encephalitis, acute dysentery, gastroenteritis, heat rash, hepatitis, influenza, measles, meningitis, mumps, sore throat, and upper respiratory tract infections. Indigo root reduces inflammation and fever, purifies the blood, dissolves foreign masses, and focuses special attention on the throat, relieving painful, swollen conditions. Chinese research shows indigo root demonstrates antiparasitic and antimicrobial activity against Salmonella enteritidis, Salmonella typhi, Shigella dysenteriae, and Shigella flexneri. Alcohol extraction of indigo root are also effective against hemolytic Streptococcus. Indigo root is typically used for treating enephalitis, acute infectious hepatitis, leptospirosis, mumps, parasites, throat infections, and many of the same conditions as Indigo herb.
Licorice root increases the production of digestive fluids and bile, soothes mucus membranes (especially in the stomach), relieves pain and inflammation, relaxes muscle spasms, enables the body to expel phlegm, strengthens the adrenal glands, stimulates the adrenal cortex, lowers cholesterol, and acts as a mild laxative. Licorice is also particularly beneficial for gastrointestinal problems such as gastritis, peptic ulceration, and excessive stomach acid. Licorice is a powerful anti-inflammatory and anti-arthritic, and has been proven as an effective treatment for chronic hepatitis B and liver cirrhosis. Licorice has also been shown in numerous studies to be quite effective in treating hypoglycemia, especially due to adrenal stress. Additionally, licorice exhibits antibacterial, antifungal, antimicrobial, antiviral, and possible anticancer properties.
Panax ginseng root is used around the world for increasing immunity to disease, fatigue, and stress; delaying the effects of old age; enhancing the secretion of hormones; normalizing adrenal and thyroid imbalances; improving stamina; reducing blood sugar and cholesterol levels; and providing an overall sense of better health. Panax ginseng stimulates liver cell regeneration by increasing oxygen absorption and usage on the cellular level. Panax ginseng also contains substances which stimulate the brain, central nervous system, heart and blood vessels, liver enzyme production, and overall metabolism. Traditional Chinese medicine has employed the use of Panax ginseng for problems such as anemia, atheroscler
Canada - Thanks again for your post :) Can you let me know how i can find your blog? Can you also let me know when you finished with MMS and when your last outbreak was?
Kathleen - Could you please tell me where i can order VS-C and Silver Shield from? When was your last outbreak?
Thanks guys!!
Do you know if you should take the liquid VSC or the pills?
Slut of '78 - Taking liguid is always more effective than pills. You should put the liquid under the tongue for quick absorption. After using a couple bottles of the liquid, you can switch to the pills if you so desire. I suggest you take liquids all the way. Even though I am not on this protocol, I try to use liquids as much as possible for maximum effect. Take care.
positiveenergies
Oz: Click on my name when it is in blue, takes you to a new page, click on blog. Last OB was in Feb.... I think. Finished MMS about 170 days ago or so. Cheers
check out this article and then the link to the product.....
just in case anyone is wondering. I am the 4th slut of my family and I was born in 1978.
Hi Canada,
Will check your blog later today, can you tell me if you had HSV 1 or HSV 2? I have HSV 1 and get coldsores about once every 2-3 months :(
Before taking MMS did you have regular outbreaks? Since taking MMS have you had less outbreaks?
Thanks again!!
Anyone taking MMS:
i've been taking it for a little over a month and i have reached 15 drops 3x per day. it wasn't easy, but like canada says after a few days or so at 15/3x per day you level out and start feeling okay. i was doing great (it seemed to have slowly eliminated my daily neuralgic pains) and then i got a bad ob just a few days ago. still, i'm not stopping - everything i've read indicates that people who got ob's while taking MMS ultimately went on to be completely free of them.
i guess for some people the ob's have to come out for the MMS to kill the virus.
i plan on continuing with the 15 drop 3x per day therapy for at least two more months...
I was just in Starbucks and went to the Hub to see whats new and my screen froze at the top of the hub with all those medivir adds and the words Herpes all over the place!!
There were all these girls behind me!! Why does this stuff always happen to me????
Captain: The Dr says that she has cured people using this treatment.
Kathleen: The silver isn't $500 its the entire treatment. The silver when I priced it was about $326 or so. Yes you have to ingest 15 bottles in 5 days. I haven't figured out how many bottles of VSC-TCM will be needed. I will figure it out and let you know. The entire treatment will be about seven weeks.
Positive: Actually in the case of VSC the tablet form is more concentrated as per the alt Dr.
IB: Thanks mama. I will look into it.
Jessica, are u supposed to take VSc together with the the silver? can u take vsc alone? it seems promising n where can i buy that. am confused now, so many things to try.
Liquid is usually better than taking pills, however with the VS-C, the liquid is NOT the same as the pills. The pills are considered TCM (traditional chinese medicine) while the liquid is not. In the case of VSC liquid. I think it will work, but it will take MUCH longer. Plus the liquid comes in these teeny tiny bottles & require something like 23 drops per dose 3 X a day. That's why I didn't stay on it--you run out too soon & it's expensive.
Jessica, I have some questions about your current treatment....
what are your instructions for the 7 weeks?
so you take 15 bottles of silver in 5 days, what will you taking the 44 days? Will it just be the VSC?
Can you please ask your alt doc how she can prove she has cured people this way? How did she prove it?
$12.70 for VSC capsules best price I could find for any one looking to do Jessica's protocol with her....
It is extremely confusing LA. what you should do is decide which treatment you want to use. This hub is full of so much info.
IB said that they have the VSC-TCM on amazon so you can check there.
Time: after the 5days of silver its followed by VSC-TCM, st Johns wort, viral recovery, nutri calm.........I KNOW I'm forgetting something, sorry. IBelieve will be seeing the same Dr next week and knowing her she may be able to get more information from her re: her success rate. I have become somewhat numb to this so I didn't ask her her physical proof. At this stage if it work wonderful if not I'll try something else. I know, not the best attitude. As soon as I get myself together I will definetely create a blog so everyone can follow my experiences then decide if they want to try it as well.
The alt Dr said that her only problem was doctors refusing to retest her clients and them having to find a new Dr who was willing to test them. I told her about tstd and she said she will pass that on to her clients.
Jessica
Does your DR. provide you with this? Does she sell it or is she just telling you to go out and get it?
I ask because it would be easier to get it from her than do all the shopping around.
And TC....I have not forgot about what you did to me!!!!!!!!!!! Revenge will be mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jessica & IB - Stop it - You only have fungus! lol
positiveenergies
Oz: I have ordered from Nature’s Sunshine, but this time I am going to order the TCM VS-C from theherbsplaceDOTcom for $19.45. This kind is more concentrated than the liquid. I’ve tried both but the naturopath says the TCM VS-C is more concentrated. (BTW - The liquid DOES taste yummy, kinda like honey.)
Also going to order the Silver Shield from theherbsplaceDOMcom for $21.75.
Am going to order from them because can order both at same place. Not everyone that I’ve checked out carries both TCM VS-C and Silver Shield.
Slut of ’78: The pills/capsules are better than the liquid. The TCM VS-C bottle has 30 capsules in it. If you are serious about this, I recommend getting a lot of bottles. Don’t skip a day. I hope I can afford to do this straight for 6 months.
Positiveenergies: I am not a doctor, not in the medical field, am not an expert on this but I have been told that the pills are better than the liquid b/c they are more concentrated. However, the liquid tastes great! So if you want to take the liquid, I am told by the naturopath that it might take twice as much to ingest the liquid and get cured than it will the pills/capsules, which are more concentrated. Honestly, I like the taste but I want to get cured ASAP so I am getting the TCM VS-C in pill/capsule form. It won’t take as long.
Jessica: Thank you for responding! I was looking forward to hearing from you. FYI - I’ve priced 15 bottles of Silver Shield at theherbsplaceDOTcom at $326.25, pre-tax. Do you mind if I ask where you are getting your Silver Shield and TCM VS-C? Do they charge a lot of tax and shipping? I haven’t ordered mine yet, but would like to compare. (I’ve noticed some places charge tax and others don’t.) Thanks! I think it’s fantastic that you are sharing this info and going to do a blog. I’m thrilled for you!
Couple more questions, if you don’t mind: Does your alt Doc know about taking PB 8 or some kind of probiotics with the Silver Shield? Just wondering. Hope you don’t mind sharing your info, it’s greatly appreciated! Can you ask your alt Doc if other people she has cured test right after the seven weeks and were testing negative?
Time2fly22: That is a good price for the VS-C; however, the TCM VS-C is more concentrated. You get to swallow LESS pills for MORE concentration. The VS-C you are talking about has less concentration than the TCM VS-C. Obviously, if you don’t mind taking more pills then that’s a good price. The TCM VS-C for 30 pills is $19.45. That’s what I’m going for b/c I’d rather take more concentration pills and swallow less. Make sense? The VS-C you are talking about is less concentrated and is a bottle of 120 or so pills, but you have to ingest twice as much to match the TCM VS-C concentration.
IBelieve: On Amazon.com what’s the price for TCM VS-C for 30 pills? Is it lower than $19.45? I couldn’t find anything less than that. Also, when you visit the same alt Doc, would you mind sharing the listing of all the herbs and the protocol? Thanks. Greatly appreciated! I’m thrilled for you as well!
Good luck everyone.
OZ....yes medivar is fluoride ..actually satnnous fluoride only found in ONE brand of toothpaste...I could not find it in any store or on line so I bought the medivar..same stuff..so yes there is ONE brand of tooth paste that contains this ...if you its something like CAM-GEL somethin like that..but if you google stannous fluoride you will find it....and it is suposed to heal an OB quicker..MMS has a shelf life of 10 years as I understand,,,,I take it with water ONLY nothing else...I do not drink so there is the answer to that question..
medusa , i have been taking MMS since end of JUly and have yet to reach 15 drops 3 times a day ..I am agout to take 14 drops this evening but only at twice a day...they say you should take 15 drops 3 times a day for at least a week...I was planning on taking 15 drops 3 times a day for 3 months if i can only get there.....
Kathleen et al - I stand corrected :)
positiveenergies
kim, i never would have made it to 15 drops 3x per day if i hadn't taken (still take) a probiotic 2x per day. Otherwise the digestive upset is too much to take. "Culturelle" is a good one - you can get it the cheapest at vitacostdotcom. good luck.
Medusa....I went to that website....did you get the culturelle packets or vegetarian capsules?????
Cali - me too! I need those to help me with the MMS!!!!!
Kathleen: The Dr didn't say anything about the PB8. But the good thing is IB will be seeing her next week and can ask all the questions that I missed. I'm just mad that I won't be able to start the treatment at this time.
Large Marge: She said that she doesn't have the space to store all the supplements that I would need for the treatment but said I could get them from her website. The thing is her website is more expensive then others.
Interesting thing happened to me today. I went to see a close friend - all embarrassed about this huge cold sore blemish on my lip. He jokingly said "H." I was like I guess I should keep my distance and he said - "WHAT? I'm not afraid of that. It's not a big deal - some people have real problems. I could lick that all over." And then he kissed me. Made me put things in perspective and more determined to beat this little fucker. WHY? Because I can, we can!
Opted not to buy medavir. Spent lots of time in the toothpaste aisle and couldn't find another stannuous fluoride product.
So I opted to make my own topical with Neem oil. It's supposed to have good antiviral properties. It has a rather nasty smell and is very strong so I mixed it with orange oil and glycerin.
Also started taking Saw Palmetto. It has monolaurin and other ingredients that should be for combating H. Down with H!!!
Jessica
How can I meet your Dr.? What city are you in?
TC!!!! You little worm!!!!
PositiveEnergies: Girl!!! Don't get me going! I get mad every time I hear that we don't have H, but we all have a bad case of fungus.
Kathleen: I'll let you know. BTW what's PB8? Also I think olive leaf extract is part of the therapy.
Large Marge: The alt. doctor is in NY.
Maybe amazon doesn't have the best prices for VSC, but the day we were looking, the concentrated VSC TCM was $25-29 on most websites. If you can find it for $19 that's good, but you only get 30 pills.
This cure thing is expensive, but priceless if we're cured! I WISHED I had not spent the money on Resolve! Like Jessica, I won't start my therapy until I have everything I need so there won't be any gap.
OZ: Won both awards. 1&2. Had three o/b's last year. Zero this year.
FH: Too funny! Shit like that happens to me too!
Medusa: I had my last O/B just when I started MMS... Interesting theory.
Kim: didn't you back off MMS for a time to see TC?
LM... so why is TC a worm this time... he is... just wondered why more-so now?
i know this seems like a very personal thing to write but after reading some of these comments i feel comfortable enough to post a comment, plus it doesnt hurt that nobody knows me lol. anyways i was raped. went to my doctor's and got a std/hiv test and found out i was positive for hsv-1. i know nothing about this virus but that there is no cure and it hides in your nerve cells. i wont lie i have become very drepessed because i dont know how im going to live a normal life. i guess you can say i had a outbreak. i found a lession near my genitals, that is now going away but nothing painful. im just very sad because now i feel i will never find love, or have a child because who is going to want to risk being infected!! i hear you guys talking about taking MMS...what is that? i havent been back to the doctors after hearing my results by phone a week ago. i would appreciate any suggestions. or treatments that you guys have found sucessful in stoping the outbreaks and any information you can give me about this virus and more of how it works...i want to hold on to the faith that one day there will be a cure for this virus but somehow i feel that their never will be...nobody is going to fund the studies, maybe i should just deal with the fact that my life is over before it really every started!!
Hi guys. I too was not cures by resolve. i'm still always looking for somthing that might work. I'm using medavir. It seems to be preventing my outbreaks. Has anyone else had good results with this stuff. I hope it is actually doing something!!
hey sadbrowneyes1, you should get checked again, because you may have had hsv1 all along and not even got known.. most ppl have it. So you may not have genital hsv2,, though even if you do... its not the end of the world. trust me .
IB & Jessica - The best olive leaf tabs out there is Life Flo Olive Leaf Plus with 30% oleuropein. Check it out.
positiveenergies
cali/ava, re: culturelle
get the capsules, they are the easiest to take. expect a grumbly stomach for the the first couple of days you take it...after that its a godsend! :)
Hi SADBROWNEYES. I am in the same boat as you. I have HSV-I down there. Yes. HSV-I does cause genital lesions. They are usually tiny razor-like. You can get it from oral sex from someone who has a coldsore (could be practically invisible) or you could touch a coldsore and accidentally touch yourself there or there is a possibility that the virus just "migrates" down there.
Most people with Genital HSV-I do not suffer much. The average number of outbreaks is 1 every year and a half.
However, for some people (e.g., me) outbreaks are much more frequent. This may have to do with the make-up of your body or with the particular strain of the virus.
I have had a shitty time with it. Online reports indicate some people have a really shitty time with GHSV-I for the first 2 years. I don't want to wait that long so I am looking for therapies to help me along.
I am on this hub because even though I have HSV-I and most others have HSV-II, similar therapies work for both strains.
Please put HSV-I into perspective. It is estimated that 60-80 percent of the population carries the virus. MOST of these people acquired it as children in the form of oral cold sores.
If you have HSV-I. You are part of the majority. (HSV-II is also pretty common (1 in 4 people carry it). The only difference is that you have it genitally. It's just in a different part of the body.
There is nothing to be worried about. You will find love. If the right guy reads the right information, you will be fine. I had a surprisingly pleasant reaction from someone I dated recently - he didn't think it was a big deal AT ALL. In fact, he thought I was making too much of it.
My major issue now is getting control of my symptoms. Once I have my outbreaks under control, I will feel much better.
I do not have any sure-fire remedies yet - because I have only just started actively fighting H. But if you read older posts on this hub you will find ideas about treatment from myself and other people. Do your research and start. What works for one person may not work for another.
Because my HSV-I seems aggressive, I am using H202 therapy in combination with a number of supplements. I believe it is entirely possible to make this virus dormant for eternity. Others have done it and so can we.
The people on this hub are very supportive and you get ideas. Good luck and I will check in regularly so we can chat. I think you and I are the only ones with HSV-I on this hub.
Positive: Thank you. I will look into it
Jess
ok so can you give us all a break down of the whole protocol?
Which brands? which products? How often?
Please lay out the whole line up one more time,
Thanks, The Captain.
Positive- OK. Got it. I hadn't seen anything with 30% ole before. Thanks
SadBrownEyes21- I know it won't make you feel any better, but you're not alone. As for treatment, stay away from resolve and True Cures. I brought up VSC here a few months ago. I would recommend researching & trying VS-C TCM (traditional chinese medicine). Supposedly it eradicates all types of herpes, mono, other viruses, fungus & bacteria. You need to take it for 3-6 months straight without interruption. Take the capsules, not the liquid which is not TCM, not as strong & would take much longer. I took the liquid (tasty!) because I was tired of pills but did not finish because the bottles are small & you need about 23 drops per dose. I plan on taking the concentrated form of VS-C TCM again. Everyone here is trying different things for a cure. We're tired of suppressants. Once we find something, we will share. MMS is Miracle Mineral Supplement. It is brutal to take, smells like bleach when you mix it, hard to keep down & hard on your body. You have to work your way up to 15 drops 2 or 3 times a day. One guy, R was cured using it along with medavir. I think he waited until he had an ob & started it. There are tons of people taking MMS & so far MMS has NOT worked for most people.
Kathleen: I assume the PB8 is some kind of probiotics? Yes I've heard that if you take anything that will kill off all your bacteria (including the good bacteria) that you need to take some kind of probiotic to establish new colonies. I believe the heavy dosing of silver shield will kill all kinds of bacteria. I will add that question to my list for the alt doctor.
Denni - I checked out the link and that person sounds like they are very interested in money. Another one of those herpes hustlers. I hope no one falls for his/her crap.
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IB & Jessica - I usually order olive leaf from vitacoast.com. Price is $14.08.
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Positiveenergies, Jessica, Denni, iBelieve, Captain Cloud, I just want to say: Thank You! Lately I feel like all of you are really helping me. You rock! I eagerly anticipate hearing more from you, Jessica and iBelieve, regarding the new protocol from your alt doc. :)
iBelieve: Yes, PB8 is a probiotic. I have heard it is a good one. Thanks in advance for asking your doc about it.
SadBrownEyes21: I tried MMS and it did not work for me. I got up to 15 drops for months and disliked it. I will never try this protocol again. I have yet to see any written internet testimonial on MMS websites of anyone seroconverting from positive to negative for herpes after ingesting MMS (and I have searched for this on MMS websites and even curezone). I truly hope it works for the folks who are trying it, but I honestly got tired of the nausea. Now the smell of it makes me ill. I am glad that R is negative after using it in tandem with Medavir. He's the only one I've ever heard of with good luck.
I also went to visit True Cures in April of this year and I still have herpes. I know a lot of people that saw him but still have herpes. He claims to cure, but I have yet to see a testimonial of someone being negative after visiting him.
I never tried Resolve but several people did not have any luck with that and based on what a lot of people have said about it, I think it is a scam. Do not try it. Do not waste your money. They also claim to cure, but they haven't cured anyone (from what I gather) and to make things worse, Love and Fighter tested negative after using Resolve, but later on Love and Fighter tested positive. I felt really horrible for them when I found out about that.
I would try TCM VS-C and what Jessican and iBelieve are trying. I am taking this and other things. I also think ozone therapy is good (I am doing this too) and H202 sounds promising. Research this stuff for yourself. Take responsibility for your health and good luck.
BTW- I am not saying MMS doesn't work, but it just did not work for me.
Also: I have heard that TCM VS-C DOES eradicate herpes if you take it regularly for about 3 to 6 months. I never got a written testimonial, but my naturopath told me and if anyone wants their number I will give it and you can call them yourself. I still don't know much about Silver Shield, but that is also worth trying.
I am starting the VSC. Gonna hit it hard for 6 months non stop.
Just wanted to know I am rooting for all of you to be cured.
I dedicate my best song to you all.
Kathleen: Thank you so much. I am glad that this hub is going back to a place of comfort and information. It seems that TC and Resolve kind of seperated us. We will find the cure together.
Denni: Had a look at the site. Am offended by the suggestion for a "donation". Anybody who ahs worked a MMS protocol will see that this guy's "5 years of research" is nothing but BS. Wow! He got all the way up to 15 drops a day! Really! Well i think PNJ and Tech would LOL to hear that at 15 drops a day they are cured! Who is this guy... TC? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
Denni: I still don't know anybody besides R who tested negative after using MMS. He's one person out of a million? Before I did resolve, I searched the web to see if MMS worked for curing H. I couldn't find not ONE person who was cured using MMS. Plus TONS of people on the hubs here have done MMS & they have yet to be cured. Sooo, personally I won't be doing MMS. No thanks!
BTW I'm sick of hearing that MMS cures H if you get up to 15 drops a day. Evidently that's false or a whole lot of people would be cured already.
For the folks here doing MMS: Good luck! Maybe you'll get lucky like R.
Positiveenergies: Thanks. I'm going to put these website addresses in an efile, so that when I'm ready to order I'll know where to go for which products.
Olive leaf extract (ole) worked well very for me. OLE made me feel good overall. I had no obs during the months I took it, plus it made my hair & nails grow! I always make sure that I buy standardized herbs. Otherwise you have no idea what concentration you're really getting. I think OLE & VSC TCM would make a great anti-herpes cocktail.
Hi Team,
Can you tell me where I can order TCM VS-C from?
Can you also please tell me what the difference is between TCM and VS-C or are they both the same? Is it best to take both supplements?
Thanks Guys!!!
OZ: VS-C is the liquid form (less concentrated) and VSC-TCM are the tablets (more concentrated). I ordered the VSC in the past but I can't remember from where. IB help!!! I know she remembers.
OZ: I get mine from theherbsplaceDOTcom b/c you can order TCM VSC in 30 capsules for $19.45. You can also try the website for Nature's Sunshine.
$19.45 on the internet is good. If I got to my Naturopath the retail price for this is $29.20. Geez.
BTW- you can also order Silver Shield at theherbsplaceDOTcom. But I couldn't find it at Nature's Sunshine website.
Good luck. I think this stuff works!
Kathleeen hi ! :) I'm still waiting for my money to buy the ozone generator... I hope everything is ok with you...
Everybody : Has anyone here used mms along with colloidal silver and lauricidin(monolaurin) ? I'm a little nervous about using them together.
Hey Nicole, I have stopped taking MMS and Medavir after 3 months of use. Got tested 3 wks ago for Everykind of STD possible uncluding H. Came back NEG on everything. I thank God everyday. Now i have a beautiful women by my side that i can start a new life with. I really hope this works for all of you, remember MMS works to kill the virus internally since it has no limit to where it goes. And Medavir kills the virus externally. Even if the first OB doesnt completely kill it, it will minimize it. Keep taking it if you still have an OB, thats my suggestion. The second OB shouldnt be so crazy or big, and then more use can definitley kill it more. Like i said it may work for some and it may not work for others, but the best way i believe in taking this is the second day of your OB. Thats what i did. Good luck to you all. I will still be reading the hub from time to time, but if i do not respond is cause i have many new things in my life im trying to accomplish.
Dust 5 & Fighter - Could you please post your Resolve experiences on
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
Thanks.
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Thank You to ( I Believe...Kathleen And Hersmithy)
yeah i have been doing Research that is how i came across this hub. there was just so may cures, i figured it would be nice to get information from people who are in the same position as you. but i really appreciate all the feedback. im still a little in shock about the whole situation but i have no choice but to deal and start finding what works good for me. but thanks agian i will look into tcm vsc.
I used monolauren and it was ok but is no cure.
They will say that these things kill H in vitro. Well that just means that in a petri dish it will kill the virus. Well guess what?
Pouring gasoline in a petri dish full of H will kill it too.
SOOOOoo what are yall saying..lol..NO for real..there is some good info on that site, for free..just keep reading.lol..yall make me sick..smile
Last night at work I had a Fanta strawberry soda and boy did Uncle Henry get to acting up, before I left work I had a new pimple on my forehead..I got to thinking..when I was much younger my sister had chicken pox and she had to drink alot of soda..but I can't remember if it was strawberry or orange, but it was definately one or the two..question..since the chicken pox and herpes viruses are similar, do we just need to mega dose on pop to bring it out??? is that why my grandma told my mom to have her drink so much pop..bring it out and the immune system will kill it?? who knows, because I seen a bump on her(sister) lip a week ago??
Oz- You can get the VSC from almost anywhere on the web that sells supplements. It's a matter of comparison shopping. Like somebody said, I've seen it priced as high as $30! Just make sure you get the VSC that's TCM. Nature's Sunshine distributors/websites are the most expensive. The website Kathleen mentioned (the herbalplacedotcom) does have good prices. I think I ordered the liquid VSC from there when I took it. (I would have to check) I recently ordered VSC from amazon. I bought more than one bottle & they had discounts if you buy more than one at a time. Also, I haven't seen any nature's sunshine distributors that do NOT sell silver shield.
Denni: lol. You know we still love you. We just haven't seen anybody besides R who go cured from MMS. Hopefully Techie may be #2, but she hasn't reported it yet. I actually read the whole link that you posted. :)
BTW I never heard of drinking soda to bring out chicken pox. That's news to me.
Soclose: I wouldn't use the colloidal silver with MMS. The MMS would have you throwing up/going to the bathroom before the cs could get a chance to get in your body good. It would be like wasting the silver. I may be wrong, but it's just my opinion
I just ordered the VSC-TCm concentrate--6 bottles, and am gonna try to take it for six months straight with 15 drops of grape seed extract 2x/day and 1tab of l-lysine. Am gonna try this and test in march of next year n i hope it'll be the last time i ll have to deal with this. Does anyone know if rubbing organic coconut oil on the spine will do any good, or should i also order medevair for dat? anyway, wish me luck! i'll be starting as soon as i get my stuff n i hope these things don't cross react and cancel out the effects! lol. well, good luck everyone!
I been doing 15 drops 2x per day of MMS since like the 4th day of when I started. I have not had any problems taking this stuff other than nausea from thinking about the smell.
I use 1/4 cup of none vitamin C pomegranate/blueberry juice with the drops and I have no problems.
How are you guys taking it that it makes you sick, etc?
Hey All: Haven't posted in a loong time but I'm a hubber from back in the day. I was one of the members of the ECC that saw TC and keep in contact with many of them as well as a few other hubbers. Like Jessica said, it's great to see that this place has returned to "normalcy", and I use that term loosely ;) But seems we're definitely on the right track in terms of supporting each other and relaying useful info. Seems it's safe to get back in the water :) Just wanted to send my love to all the oldies as well as those who started posting more recently. ttys :)
I'm going to add DMSO to my protocol. Yes I know it can irritate the skin. But what the heck?!? I'm throwing EVERYTHING I have at this thing right now while it's awake and prowling. Plus it's cheaper than medavir and my budget is already bust.
One anecdote from someone who successfully used DMSO/H202 and has been OB free for years is that they applied the medication both to OB areas and to the spine and parts of the skin that are supplied by certain nerves (dermatomes) related to his OB areas. I am figuring these are the places where I feel my roaming viruses. This was done diligently for 3 months. If you do a google image search you can find diagrams of the dermatomes.
I hear timing is everything. You don't want to give the virus a chance to replicate. But what about when I'm sleeping? I take my last H202 dose at around 6pm. (Now up to 10X3 drops). Now I'm considering waking up in the middle of the night to take a mini-dose of all my supps.
Now I feel a little guilty for typing such long posts . . . but u guys are so sweet and determined. You'll understand :).
. . . . must be a relentless warrior.
Herbsmithy - I see it didn't you long to realise that one supplement at a time does not work for Herpes. Good for you and good luck with your treatment protocol. I too am hitting it with everything that I got.
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rc2009, I am taking the MMS and have been sick now for 48 hours I take it with water only...but everyone is different. I know of some hubbers who got sick at 5 drops and one at 10 drops...it depends on your body...
madusa, thanks for the tip on the probiotics. I do take them , actually have been taking them for years but I will try the brand you have and see if they make a difference...thanks for the tip!
herbsmithy, I am throwing everything at it too..heck lets see H202/DMSO combo and biogetica and MMS and VS-C ...yep that might do it???
fat-harold, do you have the capsules or drops?? and where di you buy it.. I have the capsules got it for $12.00..and is there a difference between the capsules and liquid of the VS-C?
Jessica, I have the VS-C and it is capsules.. it does not say TCM anywhere on teh bottle I ordered it from natures sunshine and 100 capsules for I think 12.00 or 12.95 something like that...
canada25, I didnt start taking MMS until end of July and I saw TC in Feb...I backed off resolve to see TC...
ALL, my last OB is gone, it took about 4 days applying the medavir, which is NO sooner then mine usually go away..but I will continue to use it with my other products..see what happens???
OK tehe VS-C capsul is less concentrated and yo uneed to take twice as many capsules as the VS-C the TCM means traditional chinese Medicine. According to what I have researched and read the TCM is most popular as it is more concentrated and you take less of them...I boutght the VS-C capsules for 12.95 at natures sunshine 100 of them . they have the TCM 30 capsules for 19.95..I have to take 4 capsules 2-4 times a day the TCM is 1-2 capsules twice a day. once i finish the VS-C I will buy the TCM VS-C....just to add to my collection of pruducts I am currently taking......my dresser looks like a herbal pharmacy!!!! hundreds of dollars of herbs and liquids and crap...and guess what....I still have herpes...so I keep trying......
Look at this site they are talking about bathing in MMS and using MMS with DMSO...http://www.curecancersourceDOTcom/mms-miracle-mine
rc2009....i worked my way up to 15 drops 2x a day, i got so sick one day that i couldn't hold the nausea any longer. i had to stay off MMS for a couple of days, i started back last wk but this time i decided to start to go really really slow, i started at 4 drops 3 time a day for about 3 days, i'm currently at 5 drops 3 times a day for about a wk now, i'll move up to 6 drops 3 times a day next wk, my goal is to get to 10drops 3 times a day without a problem and i'll stay at 10 drops for a while. i take my dose with either Organic apple juice or organice pomegranate juice and chase it down with a sip of prune juice. the taste and the smell kills me not sure how Kim can take the dose with water.
kim: my mistake. thought you were on MMS all along. too many people and too many protocols... aug!
Your only chance for a cure for herpes is to focus on fungus.
Anyone thinking they have herpes will do themselves a favor if they start treating their skin irritations as a fungus, otherwise you are going to exhaust each of the fads you are all so thrilled about now and be hooked on the next new fad for your discussion. You will not be one step closer to the truth.
Every person who has used True Cures is virus free. Every person who has used True Cures has fungus, including myself. Right now YOU have more different types of fungus and mold in your system than you have of viruses, bacteria and parasites put together. It takes serious effort to become free of fungi.
Many of the people reading this who are not commenting will take this in consideration and will start by using Tinactin or Lortimin sprays and creams and see almost immediate relief. For those who suffer more from itching than sores, you will cure your suffering with antifungal sprays and creams. Some people will be snide about this but believe it or not there are many suffering from jock itch thinking it is herpes.
For those of you who have sores you will have a tougher time controlling and eliminating the fungus behind the sore.
The original hubbers here claim to know herpes and if they have it or not. Every person here can find a picture of their sores on sites about fungal infections. What I am saying, is their is a picture on the Internet right now of your current OB or last OB and the picture is showing a sore caused by fungus not viruses.
There is no proof at all that herpes causes sores. Not one bit of proof. This does not mean that herpes does not cause sores, it just means it is impossible to prove and that means it is wide open to corruption and misinformation.
There are people through these hubs apposed to information connecting herpes to fungus and proving the misdiagnoses. If you rely on the information from these people and do not research and seek to cure fungus you will never find relief.
Tinactin is less than 8 dollars a can. If the can of spray gives you any relief, buy another can. Don't let foolishness get in the way of understanding your health first hand.
The 5 people who claim they were not cured by True Cures are either against cures in the first place. For example there are two people posting here that openly admit they have no signs and symptoms of herpes but yet they are here giving you advice on what to keep using when they know good and well that it will not work. This is called misdirection.
A positive antibody test does not mean you have herpes. Fungus will cause a positive antibody test and fungus is extremely contagious and looks exactly like herpes or better put sores thought to be herpes look exactly like fungus.
Never trust anyone else, never ever trust marketing, never trust science or medicine. Trust yourself and what you can do to understand and even cure yourself. Don't trust me. Trusting me has nothing to do with cures.
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Hello. Shouldn t we first be trying to find a test that indicates if we have been cured or not? I ve read that the antibody test isn t going to tell if we are cured or not because antibodies may stay in blood forever. So how are we going to find out the appropriate diagnostic test? I think that we should debate this first.
Hi All,
Its been a while since I posted, but I have been following the posts. I really believe in R, and believe that his method works. Thus, I also will start MMS.
Now as I have been researching MMS, I ran into the founder's website where he posts updates. He claims that the new protocol for MMS and viruses is to take smaller doses of MMS more often. He states to take 2-4 drops every hour or two hours to treat viruses.
Here is the reference.
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-handlingviruses.htm
Please let me know what you guys think.
R - Thanks again.
DDD
TrueCon - This hub has returned to civility and I am really enjoying it so let's both leave it that way. Come over to Mama's hub where she deals exclusively with snake oil salesmen!
Hubbers - If you are thinking about seeing TrueCures, please click on the link below and read testimonies from his clients. Remember, the same herpes test (IGg) that says you have herpes can also say you don't have herpes or you are cured. Do not accept anything less and do not be fooled. Herpes cure is a billion dollar industry and many people come out of the woodwork claiming they have the silver bullet and they don't. Please click on the links below for more information-
http://hubpages.com/hub/True-Cures---Con-Man--Frau
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
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Kim - I too did not benefit from Medavir. I use 70% rubbing alcohol that kills the virus in less than a minute and apply it topically. It also cost about $2.50 and is available in any pharmacy. Hang in there Kim - We will all beat this virus very soon.
positiveenergies
Thanks pose. All the best to you too & to all you other crusaders.
LA. Don't know about coconut oil on the spine. But I think I am now going to be using a homemade mix of coconut oil with licorice extract for a total-body moisturizer. It's great for the skin and the extra benefit is that it may help fight H. I will also be using coconut oil in my cooking.
Someone. IMHO the best test of being H-free is being free of symptoms & OBs. I think that after a period of time/healthy living/treatment it is possible for the body to stop producing antibodies unnecessarily and for someone to test -ve. For me making the virus eternally dormant so I live OB-free is just as good.
In Sweden you can not ride in a golf cart on the golf courses here unless you are handicapped.
It's almost against the law to be lazy here. It's wonderful.
Someone: Herbsmithy's explanation was very reasonable. When you make it through the common triggers for OBs consistently you will know. By the way, with a little research ON YOUR OWN, you will learn that the the common triggers in regards to HSV are major triggers for fungi and all skin conditions related to fungi. ;) hint hint
I had a little time today to visit. PE, you can have the floor back and thanks for leading people to their cure.
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DDD.....thanks for that info, i think i'll follow that protocol but i'll do 2 drops every hr cause 4 drops every hr will make me sick.
someone: Fair enough. There is no test for the virus that i know of, just the a/b. But a/b have a half life, different for each person, but they will fall in the absence of the virus. So a positive test to me says the virus is present, or it has been present, eliminated, and not enough time has passed for them to fall. ergo false positives.
There are snake oil salesmen that post on this blog that claim you can ignore positive tests and o/b's, because it's just fungus. Mind you he has no education, has no money. has been unable to offer proof of even one cure as a result of his treatment, berates anyone who claims they were not curedc after his treatment, and blackmails people by threatening to post their identity if thay truthfully present the facts that he is a fraud....be afraid, be very afraid!
TC: so do the Swed's offer a cart for the mentally handicapped? If so did you ride or walk? Now back under your rock you go!
well it looks like we are all back on track. Now all we need is for scambusta to come in with his off the wall posts and it just like old times.
Kim I bought the liquid vcs, but it is not tcm. should i take it back?
since you started taking it have you been getting any OB?
HerbSmithy - Some hubbers swear by oil of oregano on the lower spine. I have never tried it and it spell horrible. You can also try DMSO on the spine - now that works pretty okay.
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Someone: You are correct, there is no test that can prove you are cured. Blood tests only show antibody levels and that the virus was once present (and still could be). Antibodies can exist for different lengths of time in different people. My body cleared its antibodies to measles, mumps and rubella somewhere between the time I had it as a child until I was 27 when I was retested because of pregnancy, and they found I had no more antibodies to it, which is very odd.
So your antibody levels aren't going to tell you if you are cured UNLESS they actually do go down past the negative level, but if you used something that actually cured you, your antibody levels could still be in the positive range making you believe you are still positive. So it is either a waiting game or they need to find a way to prove the virus not just antibodies.
As for believing you are cured just because you don't get OBs isn't good either. I knew I had been HSV infected because the person admitted it AFTERWARDS (thanks so much a-hole) and I got flu like symptoms that lasted for a few days. BUT THEN I HAD NOTHING FOR 18 YEARS. No OBs, nothing. Until one day it hit me like a ton on bricks and my privates were on fire for months. Only since going through the Resolve treatment have they stopped, but I know I am not cured.
The only thing that sucks about using so many products at once, is that we will never know which one worked or which combination. Its all very frustrating and expensive.
Still waiting email reply from a university doctor on the subject......
People please beware of the hubber called TrueCon.
If you have ever read any of my work then you will know what I mean.
DDD : Thanks for the useful info. I copied and pasted it to other pages so that many people get the use of it . Hope you don't mind.
With love...
A lil FYI, the alt dr said to take the VSC-TCM with hot water.
fat harold, I dont have the TCM either..i researched AFTER i bought it...I will use the one i have and then when I reorder I will order the TCM capsules...and so far NO OB since I started taking it 3 days ago...I take 4 capsules 3-4 times a day as directed...
someone, I did the antibody test, and the PCR antibody test and the PCR swab test and a regular swab test..the swabs where actually rubbed on the sore and determined that the herpes virus was in fact found ...so I definately still have herpes..but I am throwing everything at it to stop this crap!!!!I've had enough. also as far as antibodies...if you noticed several of us have had a few antibody tests, I am one of them..at first my nubmers were both above 5.0 then several months later one was 4.7 and the other was 2.1 something like that..then another time again above 5.0 for both my HSV 1 and 2...your antibodies go up when your body is fighting the active virus..when it is activated your body goes into fight mode and thus produce more antibodies...you will always have antibodies but once the virus is gone then your levels will go down to below .90 or lower which will give you a negative IgG test now here is the issue, we all will not have the antibodies lower at the same time..so it may take one person longer then another to get below .90 once cured.....so the antibody test is a pretty accurate in determining if you have herpes or not. its just when your numbers are low like 1.0 or just over positive that it becomes questionable...CANADA25 is correct when the virus is active your antibodies go up...there is no way you can have herpes and the antibody test be .10 or there is no way you can not have herpes and your test be 5.0 or great not a chance...I also agree with CANADA25 100% continued OB and a positive antibody test = YOU HAVE HERPES..I agree 100%
jessica, with HOT ater hummmmm maybe so it can absorb faster>??? hummm interesting
DDD thank you so much for that site..on MMS..also when you start MMS you will not feel as skic if you take probiotics with it...
positiveenergies, yea the H202 works like a charm once the OB is Open and I can get it open in 24 hours...
EVE2008!!!!!! EVE!!!!!!!!!! hey try to take the MMS with 3 capsules of probiotics...as soon as I started taking the probiotics with the MMS NO MORE nausea or sickness..nothing just gfeel great...
JESSICA, I am about to take my afternoon dose of the VSC with hot water..
Kim actually the antibody test will not tell you the whole story. You could be free of the virus and still have antibodies. They may have not cleared down yet. PLUS I have antibodies to lots of virus that I DON'T have, but I don't have the virus.
The ONLY test that can PROVE the virus is an actual swab of an actual OB. THIS will show the virus itself or not. So if you have an OB an you want to know if it is the virus or just some weird body pimple, get a swab test.
EVENTUALLY the antibody levels will drop for HSV if you are cured because your body will not have to fight against it anymore BUT there is no measurable time limit on that, so it is not a smart idea to go by that. I wouldn't. I want to know what's really going on not what might be going on and have false truths.
Hi Strangers..I haven't been on the hub in FOREVER!!! Hope that everyone is doing well. Last I heard, Cali was the last person to test negative...has anyone else tested neg? Are there any new products out there that you suggest I try..take care yall
Toughyear - welcome back. Cali is not negative and she is one of several who are continuing the quest to be cured.
As it turns out, Cali and I did Resolve twice and are still positive. So, we are now doing MMS and Medavir and plan to retest on October 1.
Right now, MMS seems to be the product many are taking.
R was cured from taking MMS and Medavir. Right now, he is the only confirmed negative one. He had all 3 tests done including the IGG and has even been retested. He is cured.
Good luck.
toughyear
i tested negative 5 times since finishing resolve.
Cali: Did you test negative on the PCR DNA test? And positive on the IgG? Did you get a recent OB swabbed???
PERSPECTIVE
As much as I am pissed that I have this freaking virus because it is like a pest that never goes away.... I have to put it into perspective as "it could be much worse"
This fact slapped me in the face this week when I had a young woman, in the 20-30 year age range. She was my patient and she was getting lots of tests done for exposure to HIV.
We may have an embarrassing, annoying, painful, mind bending virus, but at least it doesn't have the ability to cause the bodily deterioration that HIV can do and even lead to death.
I'm thankful that its not HIV I am battling.
time2fly22, yes thats right,,thats the problem I tried to explain that in my last email...everyone clears antibodies differently at different rates as I understand there is a half life of 30 days with the virus and within 90 days or so depending onthe person,..of ridding the virus from your body you should and I say should test in the negative range not 0 but below .90...thats my understanding..i also thought about the HIV thing which would be much worse but to us with herpes thats our cross to bare....for me I no longer want to be the ONE in five I want to be the 4 out of 5 without HERPES!!! thats the prize... : 0 )
toughyear, we ar3e all still here fighting the virus...except R he is now cured..the rest ofus are still here
The Boy from oxford never tested negative using resolve.
But truecures will help you test negative.
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Time2fly22.....I tested negative for PCR test and I think that was in February/09.....my last Igg test was around January/09 and I tested positive.......I got symptoms in June that all resembled an ob ie: blisters, itchiness, redness, however I did not get it swabbed....I just decided to repeat the resolve program and now I'm doing the MMS and Medavir....hope that clears everything up.....BTW: I enjoyed your perspective on this virus...very thought-provoking.....my goal everyday is to live my life like it's golden...and remind myself how special I am despite this stupid virus!!!!!
i am 84 and i often look back at the mistakes i made and how things would be different today.
Time flies and when its over its over, and that day will come sooner then you think.
My suggestion to you is to from time to time imagine you are 90 years old and looking back.
Do the things now that you may one day wish you had done when you had the chance.
Never watse a day. You only have a limited number of them.
Time2fly22 - wow, while I hate having this HSV virus, you really put it into perspective when you compared it to HIV which is much worse because of the harm it does to your body. And, the mental anguish.
While I am asymptomatic for HSV II, I will not rest until I am cured. It causes me mental anguish just knowing I have it. I did not sign up for this. And, it was by accident I even learned I had it.
It's a fight I will battle until I am free.
Thanks. I am so glad this hub is back to where it was....
Time2fly22 - wow, while I hate having this HSV virus, you really put it into perspective when you compared it to HIV which is much worse because of the harm it does to your body. And, the mental anguish.
While I am asymptomatic for HSV II, I will not rest until I am cured. It causes me mental anguish just knowing I have it. I did not sign up for this. And, it was by accident I even learned I had it.
It's a fight I will battle until I am free.
Thanks. I am so glad this hub is back to where it was....
the boy from oxford: I'd like to see a scan of those results.
Ava: don't think we've seen an actual copy of D's results have we?
Time2fly22: Amen to that! It could be worse!
Ktel: You're kidding right! No one tests negative with TC... unless you're looking at their bank statement!
PE: didn't I say as bad as HSV was it could be worse ages ago? That it wasn't a plague yada yada! Just saying!
any supplments of vitamins known to make herpes come out?
1marie: A week of coca cola will make herpes come out..
Hubbers - "The Boy from Oxford" IS R*****E people. Fill in the blanks. That is one of the handle that they use. Please refer to my hub for more about R*****E. He also use "To all Hurting" and 1/2Gallon a Day. This is done to create sales for their product.
Check out the info here
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
positiveenergies exposing another scam
1Marie - Many of us here just wish to send Herpes into dormancy. Are you sure you really want to wake up that sucker? If you succeed in waking it up - Can you kill all of the virus? Why not try to keep that sucker sleeping and then use supplements to eradicate it? Some hubbers have awakened the virus and are going through hell right now. Anyway, be careful.
positiveenergies
Ava
if you never get cured will you try to meet a man you like and just tell him hoping he understands? Or will you keep trying until your cured even if it never comes?
pose energies : I think it is the best and the only way how we can get rid of this virus. First take it out from where it's been hiding and then hit it with all we have. Antibodies, mms,resolve,medavir or monolaurin. Anything that we know hits it.
I think the main reason why some did get cured with ozone but some did not, some did get cured with mms but some did not is the ones getting cured did the application on the right time without knowing it. I'm now trying to manage to wake the virus in me while I'm using mms. Arginine food was suggested to wake it up but it feeds the shT. So I'm trying on some other methods like cutting out its food completely, and heating the places where I guess it's been hiding...
So waking the virus without feeding it is a good idea before we try to hit it with the protocol we've been trying.
We'll all get cured !
With love to all...
PE: now how did I miss that one! what some people will do to keep a scam going!
Kim, Wow the water with MMS thing is insane. I would not be able to do that.
I will try the 1 drop per hour for the whole day and see.
hey all : I did try the new protocol DDD has mentioned here. I tried big doses cause I want to get rid of h more than anything. But I felt very very sick. I believed on the method but I think I'll do just one drop each hour from tomorrow on.
I just wanted you to know.
With love to all...
Stevie Wonder can see that the boy from Oxford is Dave from resolve. Heeey Dave! He always posts that he tested negative after anybody says resolve didn't work after doing it X number of times. The next time he'll say that he tested negative 7 times. LOL. I wish he would stop insulting our intelligence!
Time2fly: Good post. Having H has made me think MANY, MANY times the anguish HIV positive people are going through. Our burden is heavy, but no comparison to their burden.
Old Man Higgins: Thanks for the advice. We don't realize that time waits for no one. A friend of mine went to home depot one day & ran into an elderly guy in the tools dept. They started talking & the guy held up a tape measure with one of his fingers pointing at 100. He looked my friend dead in the eye & said, "See this? Well, I'm ALREADY up to here (77), & I've only got this much more to live IF I'm lucky." It makes you stop & realize that we are only on earth for a season, and we should live life to the fullest.
I've been coming and going on this hub from the beginning. For a while, I thought I was cured. Now I read one of the blogs that said somebody "R" was cured??? Really? MMS and Medavir? Could somebody tell me the EXACT PROTOCOL he used? When and how much???
Thanks,
SuperHOpeful
Jessica did the alt doctor say how often to take the silver
shield? and what dosage. What is the phone number for the
alternative doctor. Please email me with the information of the alt doctor at doublecash@aol.com
SH: Glad to see you're still around. I copied D's protocol onto my blog so it wouldn't get lost or eventually deleted You can check it out there.
Captain Cloud - I am a highly confident, successful and professional executive. I am burdened by this disease.
I would love nothing more than to meet the man of my dreams. However, I will not tell anyone I have this and will not even try to meet anyone until I am cured and it's proven multiple times with tests. I will also make him test before pursuing any relationship.
SoClose - I may need help here but I have not heard of anyone who has been cured by hydrogen perioxide. I do not get outbreaks (thank Good) and there is no way I am waking the sleeping giant. We are each responsible for our own treatment protocol. Good luck with yours.
positiveenergies
Canada25....you forgot to give my your blog URL
Thanks
SuperHopeful.....how have you been?? R said he waited until he got an OB and used Medavire on his OB and took MMS for about 2-3 months.
Kim......where do you get those pills from??
taking MMS every hr is kinda of a pain but i rather take small dose every 1 or 2 hrs, i just can't deal with the smell, it makes me sick
Eve2008...Good, just wish my OBs were gone.
Hey SH. Click on the blue "canada25". it takes you to a page with a link to my blog. Cheers!
hello hub people :)it has been ages since i been here. for those who know me, i am well and life is great. i think about many of you often and some of the fun times we all had in the beginnings of the chat room. It is my hope you are all doing well and take each day with a big smile :)
wow at clean slate on the hub. i bet i missed a lotta crap(part of the reason i got away from the hub). i dont do negativity and it was kinda gettin close to rubbin off on me, a few of u may remember.
anyway.... im still doing lots of traveling, in fact, i just got off a plane lil bit ago. im hanging in north beach a couple days b4 heading to Jamaica for a few weeks and then off to Australia for a couple months and another stop 3 1/2 week stop in Brazil on the way back home. im still smoke free... and suffering not one symptom since i licked the beaker all that time ago (oh, an my beaker is still stuck in my dashboard of the truck, lol)... a few will likely ask... so i will just say yes yes and yes with out any further input and trust you remember the reasons why :)
i hung out in the chat room while i took 4 hours to skim over the posts, but no one stopped by, perhaps it is not used so much any more, dunno. nice to see a lot of the old regs still around on the board and the many new folks too!
oldman higgins wonderful post! ...is why i'm traveling so much and keeping on the positive energy side of things! never forget to >> Live life !!!!
well is late for me and i have a lot i wanna do the next days weeks n months so,,, i wont do any shout outs you all know who you are~ if i dont get a chance to stop back before i leave FL. i will try to stop back again sooner next time to say hi and not be gone so long.
be well for now, everyone!! peace~!~!
Hey people...I know you will all be cured soon enough.
Here is a song I will sing live for you all.
Wow, it's been a while. I hope all is going well and everyone is staying positive. I have been gone for quite sometime because I hit a rough patch there where things just got bad.
Anyhow, what is the new choice of drug around here now?
What is everyone taking? Is it the combo of MMS and Medavir? Is there anything else in addition to take with these two?
Also, can someone provide a link as to where I can get these two products and also the proper way to take them?
Thank you guys and I'm glad to be back?
did all the hubbers up and die? where is everybody?
I'm alive and well.....still fighting like a warrior!
ya CC... I was thinking the same thing!
Hey all : My test came back positive for hsv1 IgG (4.2).
It was 1.36 when I was first infected.
1.22 after ozone therapy.
5.3 during resolve.
Now 4.2 .
I'm on mms and lauricidin now. I'll let you all know when I get retested.
With love...
denni : I've just read it thats great news. And you know what this article makes me believe in Jim Humble more than ever ! What are you thinking r u planning on using mms2 ?
score one for the team! I love you denny that article was great!!!!
Denni - WOW! You are awesome, girl! Thanks for that information.
positiveenergies
Denni...U GO GIRLLLL :-)
r you going to use the MMS2??
denni: ok... same as above! So what thinks everyone... is it worth a try?
So for the MMS2, do you just go tot he pool store, or is there a place Dr. Humble has this ready to sell??
And where have you been buying the MMS1
Hey all : I'll try it. It's very promising.The article says 3 weeks to overcome AIDS. I can't wait to start ! Only problem is the pool stores do not sell the exact thing Mr.Jim Humble presents. Here they sell big tablets about the size of a dish washer detergant. I asked to mms' support if I don't get an answer I'll buy the ones I find and use it in small amounts.
What you guys are planning on this ??
WE'LL DO IT ! ! !
Denni, Cnanda25, Old Hubbers - I don't know why I think 2009 is going to be our year for a cure!
positiveenergies
Wow, I'll definitely like to add mms2 to my protocol. Question now is where to get the exact one he's talking about? And it's in tab form? I don't have to smell it? God, I'm in!!!!lol.
I guess we can just go to the local pool/spa store and get it (the warnings on the bag are scary, even though he says to ignore them). I found it really cheap on this website
I am all in ...Something has got to work..MMS1 has given me watery diarrhea and vomiting since 10am..
The warnings are definitely scary! I'm kind of scared to try it. Well, once other peolple start trying it, I'll give it a shot too.
This calcium hypochlorite also require special handling....
"The second type of chlorine, a solid, is also known as calcium hypochlorite. This is a white solid that contains 65% available chlorine and dissolves easily in water. While there are advantages such as long-term stability, there are also disadvantages. Calcium hypochlorite is a corrosive, and anyone who has a swimming pool can tell you it has a strong odor and requires proper handling.
What you may not know, however, is that it must be kept away from organic materials such as wood, cloth and petroleum products because reactions between calcium hypochlorite and organic materials can generate enough heat to cause a fire or an explosion. Calcium hypochlorite is extremely effervescent, absorbing moisture and in the process forming chlorine gas. Shipping containers, therefore, must be emptied completely or carefully resealed. Also, once dissolved in water, the user must purchase a chemical injector to place the concentrate in the water supply."
Denni: Great information about MMS2.
I'm going to pass on MM2 for now because:
a) IMO MMS1 has NOT proven itself nor lived up to its promises,
b) WHO knows what other chemicals are in the products as sold in pool supply stores? Even with the product that has 78%. What exactly is in the other 32%??? It's scary to me because you know that the product was not intended for human consumption, so there's no telling what a manufacturer might have thrown in there for a filler or whatever. I'm sure they assumed it's going into a large pool of water, not the human body- so who cares? If you could just get the hypochlorous acid or calcium hypochlorite (are they the same?) I think it would be better. Still, as everyone here knows, I'm not comfortable with taking any form of chlorine internally. I did enough of that with resolve & it didn't work.
c) In the MMS2 article Jim Humble says, "I’ve been using it for 4 years personally." If that's true, then why is he just now telling us about it?
Sorry but this reminds me a lot of resolve EXCEPT:
1)With MMS2 Humble is not selling a product (like he was with MMS1), therefore he's not profiting.
2)Humble openly acknowledges that MMS didn't cure people. He said, "What we found out recently is that MMS (now called MMS1) when given to HIV people generally cures all of their health problems associated with the HIV, but it does not cure the HIV in some cases."
So NOW that millions of people have used MMS1 & still aren't cured (and I'm SURE he's been bombarded with emails etc on why it's not working), here comes MMS2(like round 2 resolve protocol)
Please don't anyone get bent out of shape over my opinion and observations. This is just my opinion. That's what makes this hub great. Everyone should do or try what they think is best them, or what they are comfortable with.
Personally, I'm not comfortable with MMS2. I liken it to consuming fertilizer.
MUCH respect to those that are going to try MMS2. Please let us know how it goes & if it works. It may just be the cure we've all been looking for.
after reading the article denni put up i am a bit sceptical.
you remember that idiot called TC of course. well this guy humble sounds the same.
the way he talks about big drug companies fearing him and maybe killing him. and how he isnt doing it for money its all free information.
TC started out that way but before most of you realized it you were $100 less in your wallet.
also humble says in the article to use both mms one and two.
so i just think anyone who tried this should be leary.
you may try it and then when it doesnt work humble will say well you need to use it along with my original formula that only i sell or something.
but one would think he would sell the MMS 2 on his website...i'm not sure i'll feel comfortable buying it at any pool store.
I got my shipment of vsc-tcm concentrate today, so i'll start tomorrow to take it with lysine n gse. I'm thinking, maybe I should take 2 tabs/day for 3 months instead of 1tab/day for 6 months. What do u guys think? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks y'all.
Hi AVA
can you recommend a really good book on business basics and marketing?
Hey All: Remember way back when Resolve said that they weren't using MMS as one of their steps, but everyone thought it tasted like MMS? Makes me wonder if MMS2 isn't simply the poor man's Resolve.
CC: I didn't buy my MMS from JH, so unless there was a kickback I don't know how he made money at it. Book sales? In terms of pool cleaner I'm pretty sure there is no way he could! So what's in it for him? (BTW Isn't TC a dirty word on this blog now? He's peddling his "cure" in Sweden now! HAHHAH Poor Swedes!)For that matter if you wanted to you can brew MMS1 up on your own stove... so I don't think he's the same deal at TC or resolve... well besides being a rather odd sort of bloke!
Anyway going to wait for the blood work before I decide on next steps. No point in trying something new and muddying the water.
LA: Do you mind if I ask where you purchased your TCM VS-C? I'm still looking for something cheaper than $19.45 per bottle since I'd like to stock up and get several bottles. (I still haven't bought mine yet.) I went to a Nature's Sunshine website and the instructions read: Take 1 or 2 capsules with a meal daily. If it were me? I'd do the max: 2 capsules with a meal daily.
So I think you should take 2 capsules 3X a day (with each meal) for 6 months to be on the safe side. Then get tested. :) Good luck. I'd hate to see you just do this for 3 months and then stop. What if you don't get cured after just 3 months? To me it's worth a try for six straight months, don't lose your momentum. Get test while you are still taking it though.
Is anyone still using medavir???
Dust - Medavir did not work for me. I find it overly expensive and a total waste of money.
IBelieve - I second that emotion!
positiveenergies
thank you for your input Posenergies! I guess Im just a little surprised because this is the only product I have used a coupletimes and not had an outbreak for going on two months I'd say. Thats really good for me. This disease has kind of ruined my life so to speak. I just want to date again! Resolve was a joke. I finished that in Nov of 08 I think. It basically made me feel and look like crap, and did nothing for the herpes besides make me have outbreaks in more places. Valtrex is awesome, but a few days or a week after use I get an outbreak. Im just glad I am outbreak free right now. I feel one coming on sometimes, but do not get one. I have also rubbed the medavir on my lower back a few times.
Kathleen, I actually bought it from nature's sunshine--I got 6 bottles at $19.45 each. I didn't see any cheaper ones. Pls let me know if you find it cheaper so that i can get more. It's definitely getting expensive! Well, I want this gone like yesterday at all cost!. I think I'll do 2tabs/day for now bc if I do 6tabs/day, my six bottles will only last for one month. I pray this works.
totally off the subject..but I just discovered John MAYER..I am totally into a new series..I finished Frasier..was that last year..well I have moved on to Hugh Laurie and I heard the lyrics and looked it up on Youtube and I find out this guy has alot of great hits..ok off to buy his cd..yall keep up the good work..
That calcium hypochlorite won't hurt in small doses..who is going to try it first??
forgot to mention the song..Gravity.. bye.
Denni-thanks for he advice I can eat or drink anything I get ob every couple of years
posenergies: thank you as well I never thought of it in that way I could wake it up and then it wotn stop coming out and ill keep getting ob's.......but I was thinking more along the lines of soclose with waking it then killing it soooo i dunno
Hi everyone. Im a newbie. Has anyone ever heard of the Lectrojet machine? It is supposed to take medications such as acyclovir to the infected cells and eradicate the virus.
Wait soo with MMSII we have to put the calcium hypochlorite in capsules ourselves?
I am still going to get some TCM VS-C and $19.45 is the only price I can consistently find on the internet. Nothing cheaper and I have looked a lot. I am looking forward to hearing more about this and Silver Shield from iBelieve and Jessica. :)
Denni: I love John Mayer, v. cool!
I just want to share: So I have decided to bite the bullet (it will be expensive) and get Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation and Vitamin C drip IV's. I found an alt doc where I can get this and they told me that they have cured people with herpes (and hep C) and that it normally takes about 7 weeks, although everyone's different - it might take longer. I have been researching Vitamin C IV's for weeks now and I trust my instinct. There's a lot of info about it on the internet. I have read that it inactivates viruses and helps with your immune system. So I have made an appointment and I start my first Vit C IV next Monday. I am v. excited. I even bought some liposome Vitamin C and have been taking it and I feel wonderful; I take about 6 grams a day. It is awesome stuff and I feel a big difference. I am a lot less tired.
So research Vitamin C and Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation if you can and let me know what you think. Thanks and again, good luck everyone! :)
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just an article I found..please do not assume I am posting a cure..just a contribution to the cause..ok.btw, was just kidding when I said small doses won't hurt and who is first..little raw humor, that's all..good nite..
Starting next week, I am going to start saving for something big..h202 therapy, blood irradiation..something that I can go into an office and have done, because as of now I can't stand that darn MMS..I am trying to go too quick and my stomach is saying no.. I still had the watery stools today,soooo needless to say, I did not take it.. maybe in the morning..MAYBE..makes my stomach cramp all day..ugh...
ok decided on Ribavirin...lol..didn't take me long..
http://www.racoon.com/dcforum/DCForumID9/157.html. I was the one that originally presented this info..smile..I know, I am terrible..anyway..pos..please post your email addy so I can get the info about buying it from a legitimate source.please..I will buy on Monday.
Hey all : I am gonna try MMS2 I've written mails to the contact addresses of Jim Humble's site. They said they don't have it produced firmly. I said I don't need fancy packages I need a cure. They were convinced. So today they are gonna ship my MMS2.
If you are ok with an unapproved substance without a fancy bottle brand whatever you can also do what I've done. Also you can wait till I use it and give feedback to all, then order it. It will also be ready then. I mean in1 month's time probably...
Wish me luck.
With love to all...
Denni - Please note I am not saying that Ribavirin works. I was never really a good candidate for it because I never got outbreaks.
My email address is positiveenergies3@gmail.com.
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Denni
Ok, so I want you to do the ribivirin but I dont want you to take anything else along with it.
Let your self have one heck of an OB and then do the Rib. that way it can get into the virus.
I think some of us are counteracting things with all these drug bombs were doing.
Denni:
Thank you for posting that link. There are also Youtube videos on the net about it that I've watched with Dr. Rowan and other alt docs. The more I think about it and the more I research, the more I think the Ultraviolet blood irradiation and Vitamin C IV drips are sound and cure. (I might get H202 IV's as well.) I think they are affordable if you do a little bit each week and that will still work. Personally, I don't have a lot of money and I am going to do a little bit each week. The pay-as-you-go thing. This type of treatment is cumulative and builds on each one as you go, thus it is okay to space them out - they will still cure. I hope I am done in about 7 weeks and then I will get tested and perhaps get a few more as maintenance.
Like you, I can't stand that darn MMS either. I still have bottles left but I won't do it anymore. Just makes me too nauseated. I still don't see any cures from it on any MMS site either so I am reluctant about it, but I do hope that everyone who is doing it has fanatastic results. I just couldn't stick with it, made me too ill.
I don't know anything about Ribivirin. Are there testimonials that it cures? Is it a drug or is it natural? I think you have a good point about it, Fat-Harold. Makes sense. Good luck to all.
Kathleen, how much is the blood irradiation n vit.c iv cost and how many treatments are you gonna get? Do you test immediately after treatment? I know, too many questions at once--lol.
Sooclose, I appplaud you for braving it and trying mms2--lol. pls keep us posted. I might need to try it too and the blood irradiation if I can afford it.
I wish all of us luck!
LA: I will find out when I talk to the alt doc on Monday morning how many I will do, but based on what the nurse said that has helped others with herpes that they helped cure, I will probably be going to get 10 Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation treatments (2x a week) at $95 a pop, and 10 Vitamin C IV drips at $105 a pop. I'm looking at roughly spending $200 a week for about 7 weeks. This will probably take 7 weeks or longer, who knows exactly. I will test after I am done with all of the treatments, but I will probably get another IV after I get tested to be on the safe side. Because if I still have herpes I will continue the treatment. I know this is a lot of money, but for me it is worth it. Obviously what I have been doing (ozoning my vagina, taking some herbs and vitamins and eating pseudo-healthy) is not enough to seroconvert to negative and I have heard that these UVBI and Vit C IV's work! :) They supercharge your immune system, which is key to getting cured. Megadoses of Vitamin C help, they don't hurt. They help a lot! The UVBI and Vit C work in tandem. I might also get H202 IV's. If anyone is interested, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
Soclose: Yes, good luck to you! When are you going to get back into ozone therapy? Just wondering...
LA : Thank you :) I'll ofcourse keep everyone posted about whats going on. this is the reason why I'm here. We need to help and inform each other to win this war the soonest possible...
Kathleen : Thanks to you too. I didn't change my idea about ozone theraphy but the generator I'm gonna buy is 4.000 EU here. That will take sometime for me to collect that money. Also thanks for blood irradiation. I thought that was blood ozonating but today I looked it up on the net youtube google etc. it's totally different. I may try it also but I hope there won't be any need :) I want to be cured before 2010 ! ! ! Wish the same for all of us !
With love...
Kathleen, where do you live? I would like to find a doctor in Houston that offers these services and try the same thing. I just cannot do the MMS anymore. I get too sick. Right now, I am taking 30 oxygen drops in the morning and 30 oxygen drops at night. I am also using oil of oregano. But, I want to seroconvert and be cured. How do I find a doctor who also does Ultraviolet blood irradiation and Vitamin C IV drips are sound and cure. (I might get H202 IV's as well.) Please tell me how you located this doctor.
Thanks.
soclose...I have the substance needed for MMSII..I bought it at a local store..I dont care what Mr. Humble says reading the back of the packet really scared me! with all the warnings and 32% filler(unknown ingredients)..but I bought it anyways it was only 2.99. I got some capsules from whole foods for 3.38. But I am too scared right now to start...when and if I do start I will do the 3 week treatment(MMSI once a hour for at least 8 hours a day and MMSII every two hours eight times a day) but are me and soclos the only ones who will try this? I am scared to try the MMS or should I say pool shock, I keep seeing me getting a really bad stomach ache and ending up in the hospital and haveing nurses looking at me like I am crazy..lol
LA: I would not take VSC-TCM more than twice a day. It is supposedly super concentrated & contains the glycerized form of licorice (which you're not suppose to take in large doses/long term.)
Kathleen: I've heard about vitamin C therapy. Some claims it cures many diseases. Let us know how it goes. I never heard of ultraviolet blood irradiation. How is that done? Like a blood transfusion? Sounds promising but I HATE needles & have baby veins. The regular technicians can never get blood from me. I always require a special nurse & she/he has to use a baby needle to do IV's or extract blood from me. I can't do needles, but I wish you the best!
Soclose: You are a brave soul! Please let us know everything. I wish you much luck!
Yesterday I saw the alt. doctor. I must say I was QUITE impressed! She uses iridology, which is diagnosis via analyzing pictures taken of your iris with a special machine. She also did a manual exam of my eyes using a light. She took my blood pressure, urine, & weight. She gave me a complete analysis of my health- physical & emotional & she was dead on! It felt more like a pyshic reading than anything else. I was so impressed with her analysis because she could not have known so many things about me, my personal health & family history. After taking resolve, it messed up my female reproduction system, I had the major menopause blood test panel done by my ob/gyn a few months ago. Nobody knew about that, but the alt doctor knew I had a problem from her analysis. I have an appointment with my internist in a month, so I will be checking out some of her other findings via conventional tests. I told her I will let her know the results.
I was given a completely different cleanse kit & herbals to take than Jessica. As part of my cleanse, I was prescribed to take chloryphyl and another supplement LBS II. Jessica was not prescribed these. I was given a food chart for O+ blood type. I told her I'd had great difficulty raising my pH- I think all O+ people do.
She showed me a list of what she uses to cure H, but did not give me the details/amounts to take of each herb. I will get that info after I've done the cleanse & return.
I asked the alt. doctor if this therapy has NOT worked on anybody, and what is her rate of curing H with this therapy? She answered, "No, Everybody who follows this exactly, WILL get cured." She was very confident & said after 7 weeks she wants me to get tested again & the result will probably be around .50. I also asked if she's allowed to say that she can cure H? She said, "No"
I truly believe that there is more than one way to cure H. I think we'll be finding that out soon via this hub. Just like there is more than one way to kill a germ, there is more than one way to cure H. I'm confident for many reasons that this therapy is one way.
Jessica & I will probably start this therapy together once we collect all the herbs needed. It's going to be expensive!
Although Jessica & I know exactly what the therapy involves, I seriously think that if you're interested you should go see the alt doc yourself, or one like her who uses iridology because everybody has a different system- it's not a one size fits all. Jessica & I were given totally different pre-therapy protocals based specifically on what our body systems analysis showed.
my concern about these alternative drs, is that they just suppress the systems.
I went to one and she did her muscle testing and various things to deactivate the virus and even though she kept saying i am cured the virus kept coming back.
he even did the 'clearing bit' with me which is what they all say after they take your money and you still get OB's.
i beleive -can i get this doctors information?
funky monkey: Some people are happy with suppressing H. I'm not one of them. Everybody here knows I'm not interested in doing ANY therapy that will only suppress H. I've only tried things that claim to cure H- meaning eradicated, can't transmit any longer & a negative Ig test. Wow you went to an alt doctor who did muscle testing? Where's True Cures at? He would be offended for you to think he was practicing alternative medicine. TC also has claimed everyone that has seen him is "cured"- which is not true. The alt doctor that I saw uses a cleanse tailored to you, silver, VSC & a bunch of other herbs. Not muscle testing or energy healing. BTW what's your old hub name? You're obviously somebody we all know. Was the doctor you went to a "he" or a "she"? lol
Captain Cloud: Email me at: belvmiracles@live.com
soclose...how did you get in contact with them?? i also want to try the MM2 as well but i want Jim Humbles team to mail it to me and not getting it from a store.
Ava, you may email me at minajazz67@yahoo.com and I will send some info to you and tell you where I live. :)
Soclose: I hope we both win this war soon! :)
Thank you for sharing your info, iBelieve. I am glad you got to see your new alt doc. I wish you and Jessica the very best. Please keep us posted, as will I to you. I am a little curiouse about the protocol with the Silver shield and TCM VS-C. Do you take the SS for five days and then start the TCM VS-C? How does that work?
Definition of Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation copied from the internet:
"Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation is often referred to as UVBI or photoluminescence. Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation is a tested and proven therapy that is safe and effective for a wide range of health problems including the treatment of bacterial, viral and fungal infections, and in the inactivation of toxins produced by bacterial and viruses.
UVBI involves drawing a small amount of blood from a person, adding an anticoagulant to keep it from clotting, exposing the blood to ultraviolet light at a specific frequency as it passes through a sterile crystal tube in a closed, airtight circuit, and immediately administering the blood that has been irradiated or illuminated by the ultraviolet light back into the same person by intravenous infusion at the same place in the vein from which it had been drawn.
It is common knowledge that, for many years, ultraviolet light has been used for disinfection. Exposing blood to ultraviolet light also kills bacteria, viruses and fungi in the blood that is exposed to UV light and when that UV irradiated blood is reintroduced into the body, a remarkable stimulation of the immune system and various enzyme systems occurs. Although the complicated physiological action of how this occurs is not yet completely understood, it is well documented that the body’s defenses are rapidly organized to destroy all invading, systemic pathogens such as bacteria, viruses and even yeasts like Candida albicans. It appears that by destroying the pathogens in the treated sample of blood, an autogenous (self-generated) vaccine is produced. There is also evidence that ultraviolet radiation continues to be given off by the treated blood after it is infused back into the body. This is referred to as induced secondary radiation, and it contributes to the rapid destruction of the pathogens in the blood. It has also been observed that UVBI inactivates toxins produced by bacteria and viruses. Ultraviolet Blood irradiation also increases the oxygen combining power of the blood, increases cell permeability and tends to restore normal chemical balances in the body. The immune system is brought to life and the body begins to return to a state of health. Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation has a cumulative effect so that each treatment builds on and enhances the effects of previous treatments. For acute infections, frequent treatment may be necessary initially."
Yesterday I started taking the MMS every hour during the day see what happens....I am also taking the vs-c almost done with my first bottle...you have to take 12of those a day or more so I just ordered the more concentrated form VS-C TCM...so I am currently taking MMS every hour 4-5 drops, medavir, just because as i find it doesn work but was so expensive i use it anyway.....VS-C and DMSO adn biogetica..so far nothing much going on just taking all this stuff....
EVE2008 : my e-mail adress is okansezgin1987@gmail.com .
please mail me and I'll write you the guy's e-mail. Anyone can mail me to get the contacts. But I don't want to write them here I want these guys to stay alive for the good of mankind...
1marie : I was scared of the products being sold here as pool supplements. That's why I tried to reach mms team and ordered it from there. Especially the term ''shock'' scared me. I already am having the shock of my life, I don't need any more :) If you mail me I'll write you back the mail address of the guy who says my mms2 is shipped. He did it in two day's time. I think it is the best way to buy from them. If you are so scared please wait for me to do it first. I'll do it anyway... I'll give you all feedback if I don't die :)
Kathleen : I KNOW WE WILL ! ! ! :))
iBelieve : I'm not brave at all :) I just want to get cured and I know I will . Everybody here will do. And I also agree that there's not only one way to do this. We'll probably find out out a few ways here. I'm very much interested in your story with that iridologist. I'd like to know about your progress with her method. Very interesting...
With love to all...
I created a Poll on my hub and would like to hear your responses.
One of the Polls is if you cured H, would you tell your future mate you had it?
Vote at http://hubpages.com/hub/rc2009
Hi guys,
I'm new to this, had this shit for 6 months now, I'm only 22! Been taking lysine daily (which seemed to lessen the frequency and strength of ob's) with ecinacea, ginseng, multi vits and fish oils(i was taking some of these previous to my infection).
I'm going to try lemon balm to try and heal sores quicker(anyone tried this, or know of a good treatment for the sores)
Some of you say that the Vit C IV's should work. Is there no way you can ingest Vit C at a high rate to attempt to suppress the virus further? I am intending to take Vit C as a supplement also but I'm also looking at the pool shock(I'm pretty brave, so guinea pigging is something in this case I am willing to try) and the so called "cures".
soclose" I have also emaild them throught the mail on thier site they told me I could do it myself but it would be pretty hard without a pill filler, they said my eyes would sting, i would cough..etc.. and then said they would mail MMSII to me for 48.00... and also directd e to a site to buy MMSI...this suprised me why are they asking for so much money? and trying to get me to buy other stuff? got my radars up a little..and I was a little dissappointed because I thought MMSI and II held some promise and werent scammy... I hope this is not a scam.....for 48.00 I will fill the pills myself the shock is only 2.99 and empty pills are 3.38 so I will try to fill them myself..no sure when I will take them though.
Be: I also got this when I was 22 will be turning 24 tomorrow and I am still with the person who gave it to me..he wont try anything untill I (if ever) am cured...wish I was brave like you...although I do plan to use it just have to build up courage..how are you planning to put the shock in the pills?
Kathleen, thanks for your response. The treatment is a little expensive but very worth it. I'm definitely interested in knowing how it goes for you and may be trying it out myself if I can find a doctor that does that.
Ibelieve--thanks for the heads up about not taking more that 2tabs/day of vsc concentrate--I didn't know about the licorice bit, so I appreciate it. I'm also very interested in the alternative protocol you about to embark on--about how much do you think it's gonna cost--not that there's a price too much for a cure--lol. I think I might try it out too but I'll wait and hear from you, Kathleen and soclose to see which one to try next. Good luck everyone! We are all in it to win!
Soclose....thanks for the email, i'll definitely send you an mail.
Kim....yeap thats exactly what i'm doing, taking small doses every hr cause taking big doses was making me so sick, i was beginning to throw up i had to stop. cannot wait to be done with all these nasty stuff.
Has anyone used Beta Glucan?
By the way, I almost made it 1 full year without a breakout after using Resolve, but my luck has now run out.... this sucks.
Well then this is the final proof that its been a scam all along.
I wish there was some way of getting these people stopped.
Its up to the hubbers to keep sending out the truth about this.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/mus
man sues micheal jackson over herpes cure.
Bed Post Billy: this proves it is not a cure, but it was a great suppressant for a year. I mean, going from every other week to nothing for a year was great. I have had nothing else do that for me. The irritating part is that they claim i as a cure, not a suppressant, and that is what gets me mad. i told them they lied, and they claimed their normal "its just clearing, some people take more time"
I am looking for a CURE, although in the mean time a suppressant makes daily life much easier.
Hey guys, for anyone suffering with HSV I, you should be using Sensodyne Extra Sensitivity toothpaste because of the extra fluoride. The fluoride has some affect on HSV I. When you brush your teeth do a sloppy job to get the toothpaste onto your lips.
I know two people that been using Sensodyne religiously because of sensitive teeth as their dentist advised and they told me this is there suppressant. They have gone 2 years without getting an infection. One of them claims they got one tiny red spot which did not develop into anything and thats it.
Since you people already brush your teeth, I hope, try it and see if it helps but make sure it gets on your lips while you brush.
Who knows maybe it works downstairs also.
I have been saying for a long time that there is no blood test that can prove that the virus has been eliminated and as I looked over Resolves website today, I see they have finally realized this too and altered their website to reflect it quote:
"Moreover, while some customers do receive negative blood test results after completing the detox and waiting at least 90 days to test, there is no known blood test in the United States that can consistently and reliably show that the herpes virus has left the body because the antibodies to the virus will always remain and there is no known blood test in the United States that can differentiate between antibodies that are present due to a prior herpes infection and antibodies that are present due to a current herpes infection."
Its a good thing we are here to educate them as we go along.
Found another cool website with people experimenting for cures....
time2fly: Denni posted this last week... I've corresponded a bit with this guy and he seems legit, despite the request for donations.
The guy has tried everything! Seems as though he is going to wait and let other try the MMS2 and see what happens. I am waiting for someone to respond back to me about another forum where there are people already trying the MMS2. They said so far their only side effects have been burping. When I get the site, I'll post it, so anyone who wants to follow their progress can.
I am also working with a homeopathic Dr and he has given me a homeo med to take for 3 months but I need to make sure I can take it while I am on other ones or if I have to wait until I am finish with those.
I think the biggest reason for my current breakout is a massive amount of stress. I am so stressed with things going on in my life right now, I feel like I am going to pass out at times. And the first outbreak I ever got was due to a massive amount of stress too.
Well, I'm a Ribavirin candidate also. I ordered it under the name "Copegus" for under $200 for 90pills/200mg each. It sounded like a great deal. It was shipped from outside the USA. When the package arrived, it said Mumbai, India on it. And every pill has the name "Ribavirin" on it. There is no pill with the label "Copegus." I thought that was interesting. So next time I get an OB (which should be in about a week or so) I'm going to start testing it.
Those tring MMS2: Exactly what is the dosage protocol on this stuff????
Thanks,
Super
Kim: Have you formed any opinions about MMS and its efficacy on Herpes yet?
Thanks,
Super
I just had an OB start the other night and within 9 hours it was completely GONE!!! no sign of it at all no redness bump nothing.....yahoo!
superhopeful, either its the MMS i am taking almost hourly now or the biogetica that is working..it is NOT medivar becuse my last OB i applied it and it went away in 72 hours big desl I can get an OB to go away in 3-4 days with nothing..so medavir did nothing for me so it is either the MMS almost hourly i am taking or the biogetica??? I am taking the MMS 4-5 drops almost every hour..of course throughout the day once and a while it may be 2 hours or so but I try for every hour..and do not take it when I sleep and I do not even need food...no stomach upset no bathroom issues either....and the taste isnt that bad....
Be, I have had this over half my life..thats over 23 years...just stay on this hub we will find the cure...dont you worry...we will find it...
can someone please post the link on how to buy MMS 2 I want to take both at the same time as I have read that is the best....
superhopeful..I am also taking the VS-C so that could contribute to the OB going away in about 9 hours....
MMS2 should be taken together with MMS1...can someone please post the site where to but the MMS@ pleleeeeeeaaaaasssseeeee
rc2009, the medavir is also flouride...thats why it is suposted to stop herpes in its tracks....but you have to use the toothpaste with a certain flouride for it to work...
Kim... so you're doing MMS hourly at 4 drops an hour with no problems? How many drops a day does that work out to... like 40? 50? Sounds like a lot of messing with mixing but if it works and there are no side effects then what the hell! Go for it!
I think you buy MMS2 from your local pool store. :o) Sounds bad but it might be more reliable than going on the net and having someone else you don't know send you a mystery powder!
I'm sure you already have this but here is Humble's site:
http://jimhumble.biz/index.htm.
fluoride is a derivative if flouxitine which is the active ingredient in prozac.
Not trying to discourage anyone but PLEASE be careful with the MMS 2, that sounds like some really serious stuff!! It was NOT made for human consumption. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be careful and discontinue using it if you have any side effects. Wishing everyone a happy Monday
kim : I'm very happy for the good news ! I think its mms cause it seems to be workin for me as well !
Kim and all: okansezgin1987@gmail.com this is my e-mail anyone who want the mail address of the guy from jim humble's team can mail me ( to buy mms2 ) . I don't want to guys to be shut down ! I believe they're working for the good of people.
with love to all...
I just had my first Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation treatment (took 15 minutes) and Vitamin C IV drip of 20 grams (equivalent to 20,000 milligrams) this morning, took a little over an hour, cost $200. I will have another treatment this Thursday. The nurse said people have gone negative, usually takes 7 weeks, but might take longer, everyone's different. I am going to get 10 treatments and then test. I will keep all of you posted. I don't feel tired or have any aches yet, but they said I will b/c it is my immune system reacting. I think it is like a detox, too.
LA: So are you going to try the UVBI and Vit C IV treatment?
Be: Yes, Vit C IV's should work. Yes, you can ingest orally Vit C as a megadose, the nurse today said to take 2 grams every hour UNTIL your get diarrhea...then BACK OFF. Thereafter, take 2 grams daily. I started megadosing on Vitamin C last week, I got the liposome kind. I also went to the health food store last week and got Paragon C-1000, this if buffered and has bioflavonoids, supposed to be good. My opinion based on my research: Vitamin C IV's get it into your cells in a better way and can help you seroconvert to negative. It supercharges your immune system, which is KEY TO ERADICATING THIS VIRUS. Taking it orally is not quite as good, but very helpful.
Good luck to everyone with MMS, Medavir, etc.
I still need to buy my TCM VS-C, I ran out of it. Dammit...all of this is getting expensive.
People, you must take a second look at resolve. It will help you if you give it a chance.
OB's after the system are normal. Dont you feel bad after a cold goes away for a few days?
There are a lot of very technical things I can tell you but I doubt you would be able to follow me. MY level of intelectuallness is much higher than the average persons so i would only bore you.
But the virus gets ousted from the cells. What you have left over are the psychosomatic clearing symptoms.
This really only happens to the americans due to the fact that so many of you eat red meat and drinks with high fructose corn syrup.
The clearing tends to take a year and then your free.
I am really glad there is a company out there like resolve who cares enough and is smart like me and can think outside the box enough to create such a wonderful product.
But this is nothing new. The Aztecs used mineral solutions to cure various disease such as parkinsons, cancer even norwood type 3 hairloss.
The use of minerals to cure disease fell out of use as the US top soil became depleted.
But now there is a cure at long last.
You’re right! You are a bore! Your level of “intelectuallness” is truly astounding! Actually is it spelt ‘intellectualness’! While I’m at it “don’t” is spelt ‘don’t’, “americans” is spelt with a capital ‘A’, “your free” should actaullhy be ‘you’re’ free”, “parkinsons” should be ‘Parkinson’s’, “norwood” should be ‘Norwood’, and “hairloss” should be ‘hair loss’. Yes sir. I do find you such a bore! Why don't you go find a life!
Canada25-forgive my typos. I am trying to talk to you in a way that you can understand.
I shall further triturate.
Before one does go for the cure. He must pontificate and then look to aquire and intricate method such as resolve.
He must do so in a succint way and any insolence will not be tolerated even if the fact of a cure is far to chattel for them to understand.
I know you cant follow my exegesis example as few can but I can assure you with the strictest iconoclastic deductions that resolve will cure you.
Hi folks!
Haven't read in a while so maybe I missed something. What's the deal with Ribavirin? I can't find much about it online. Denni - the link you posted isn't working.
Could someone kindly direct me to where I can find more info? Also where did you guys buy it securely
?
Also thinking of adding the Vit C - orally to my protocol.
This thing can get depressing - then it feeds off of your depression. I'm having facial and other body nerve pain.
The only benefit of it being "up" is that I can KILL IT!
Time: I have tried Beta Glucan. It's great for the immune system. I haven't been sick at all on it - well EXCEPT for my HSV-I. I think this is because combating HSV is only in part about a strong immune system. The other part is the immune system LEARNING to recognize the virus early and destroy it before it reeks havoc on your body.
Good luck to all you guys with your new protocols.
Mike - You are not the only educated person on this hub so please don't regurgitate the dictionary to poster or fluster any semblance of intelligence. Your words are sadly misconstrued and misplaced which therefore leads me to believe YOU ARE A FRAUD! Isn't that why you are so anxious to proclaim that you have a PHD. BTW - it is written PhD or Ph.D. You are a fraud and pathetic at it.
We are all well aware of the many marketing ploys and scams of the product you represent. And I must say, you do sound like a plant. Leave the good people here to find a cure.
Come on over to Mama's hub! Her specialities are con artists and educated fools.
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
positiveenergies
Lol that was positively funny.
Has any looked into ProAlgaZyme? Supposedly they say it keeps HIV under control. Its a water from algae! I wonder if it works on H?
Very funny, Positive Energies. You just went up 10 points in my burgeoning book.
I must add something. So many of us non-plants and real people on this hub can inundate frauds and sophomoric vultures like Mike PHD, masquerading as an “intellectual” and a “Resolve aficionado.” I also found many blunders and erroneous faux pas in his comments, such as the fact that Resolve does not work! Based on what I have seen and heard. Mike PHD, we do not believe you, so stumble sordidly away, sauntering sadly off elsewhere in your condescending, supercilious, and snooty style. Pack your package of plant-brainwash-garbage, your phony “PHD,” and preachy and puerile pontifications and promenade to another land far far away.
rc2009: I have not looked into ProAlgaZyme but I'll do some research. It sounds intriguing. I take Red Marine Algae, which is supposed to help.
Again, good luck everyone!
Kathleen, I will definitely look into doing the irradiation once it works for you. I also wanna check out an alt. doctor and see about iris reading--it sounds interesting. For now though, I'm just taking the vsc-tcm concentrate, l-lysine and gse. I guess you'll be testing by early november or so rite? I don't know if I can wait that long but we shall see. I'm kind of busy now anyway, so it kinda works out. Anyway, good luck everyone.
Kathleen - I love how you can pick out the imposters and call a spade a spade. You have quite a vocabulary. And, I agree with you on all fronts!
PE: Too funny. Missed the PhD!
I had to go to dictionairy dot com and look up the words he was using.
Thanks for the morning laugh. I truly LOL!!! Have a GREAT day!!
canada25, yes I am taking a lot of MMS drops about 5 drops every hour or so..and yes thats a lot ..
kathleen, I have spent thousands and thousands of dollars trying to cure myself...i actually have to budget my herpes trials..really...its about 200 a month or so...and look this morning i still have herpes...I ran out of my VS-C but am waiting on my VS-C TCM to arrive i bought two bottles this time....
mikePHD, If resolve takes a year to clear then my last OB should be next month...I finished my first round of resolve October 10th 2008..OK I will wait the next 3 weeks..and when I still get OB's then what??? Do some of us need to wait 3-4 years?? I back resolve 100% everyone here knows that but ...I have gotten about 70 OB's or more since Oct 2008...soooooo and still get them..have one right now as a matter of fact. so if its a year then my last OB shoud be an day now as it will be a year since i finished my first round of resolve on Oct 10 2008..I thought I would test negative Jan 10 2009 at the 90 day mark but i was positive then and am positive now ...here it is almost a year later and I have taken resolve 3 times..still having OB OB OB OB my last OB was about a week ago and another this morning...and still testing positive on all tests IgG, swab...so Until I see my negative results I am behind resolve but I STILL HAVE HERPES..i will keep you posted..
WELL GUYS So far I am NOT cured...I woke up this morning to yet another OB near my anus...we'll see what happens to it today..darn it
ok good one.......lol
back to business.....my OB is still there no bump just a little itchiness and redness but no bump..its still there...hoping it gets better instead of worse..
Something inexpensive and easy to do that seems to be working for some people to AT LEAST keep the OBs away is taking 1/4 tsp of baking soda in a glass of water 2 or 3 times a day. I have been doing it for a day now and my OB is less itchy already. I am going to do it every day and see how long I can keep the OBs away. It s not a cure but at least until we find one it would be nice not to OB
Anyone making their own MMSII? I have it and empty capsules any advice on how to fill them I don't want to pay 48 for them online,I was told by someone on humbles website spooning it in would be messy,hard and burn my eyes and make me cough
Anyone making their own MMSII? I have it and empty capsules any advice on how to fill them I don't want to pay 48 for them online,I was told by someone on humbles website spooning it in would be messy,hard and burn my eyes and make me cough
Time2Fly - Baking Soda works by increasing the body's alkalinity and ph levels. I guess that accounts for the reduction in OBs. Pls note that baking soda only gives a temporary increase in the ph levels.
positiveenergies
Rember when "that guy " keep saying all. HSVII was is a fungus? Well when looking for the pool shock I saw fungus killer too! And for only like 8 bucks! So all of u with a "fungus infection" don't waste ur money with him...visit you local pool store
ANYONE KNOW A VERY WEALTHY PERSON WILLING TO FUND THIS RESEARCH SO THEY CAN GET A MOVE ON???? Maybe an infected celebrity?? Below is the donation information!
This is the response I just got from Duke University:
Thank you for your interest in our research. We have received a
considerable number of e-mails that have asked questions about the report
we published last year in the scientific journal "Nature." This report
received extensive press coverage, some of it misleading. We will briefly
answer some of the most common questions that we have been asked, and
particularly how our work relates to a new treatment for cold sores, caused
by Herpes Simplex Virus 1 (HSV-1), or genital ulcers, caused by the related
but distinct HSV-2. We also attach the press release issued by Duke
University Medical Center, which was the basis for all the press reports.
1) What have you accomplished?
Our work provides, for the first time, a molecular understanding of how
HSV-1 establishes a life-long latent infection in the nerve cells of the
face, and how it reactivates from latency to cause cold sores.
2) Have you developed a new treatment for cold sores?
The work we have performed provides a basis for the development of
anti-HSV-1 drugs that might be able to permanently clear HSV-1 from
patients.
3) Are these drugs being used on people?
No, but we are initiating trials in mice to study efficacy and toxicity.
4) When might this drug reach the clinical trial stage?
We anticipate at least 2 years of animal experiments in mice followed by
approximately 1 year of toxicity studies in other animals, followed by
small studies in healthy volunteers. This timeline is dependent on
obtaining additional research funding, which we have not yet succeeded in
doing. After that, assuming things go well, this drug might proceed to
clinical trials in HSV-1 infected individuals. It is very possible that the
drug candidate might fall out at any of these stages, due to lack of
effectiveness or some unanticipated side effect.
5) How does this relate to HSV-2, which causes genital herpes?
Most of our work so far has been on HSV-1, the cold sore virus, but HSV-2
is quite closely related. We are endeavoring to see if the lessons we have
learned in HSV-1 also apply to HSV-2, and our recent results indicate that
this is indeed the case. We hope to submit these new results for
publication soon. We hope to start animal trials for an anti-HSV-2 drug in
2009, depending on the results with HSV-1 and our financial resources. Our
initial data indicate that HSV-1 and HSV-2 may respond to distinct, but
similar, drug therapies.
6) Would you be willing to accept a financial contribution to be used for
your research focusing on HSV-1 and HSV-2?
We are currently funded by two grants from the U.S. government’s National
Institutes of Health (NIH). One grant focuses on HIV-1 (a second interest
of my laboratory), while one grant focuses on herpesviruses. This grant
provides funds for basic research, including salaries for members of my
laboratory, but does not fund pre-clinical research. We have applied for
additional funding, which we may receive sometime next year, but in the
current financial climate only about 8% of all NIH grant applications
dealing with infectious diseases are being funded. So, yes, additional
funding for our herpesvirus research efforts would be very useful and very
welcome.
If you are interested in making a contribution, you may do so in one of the
following ways:
Online: https://www.gifts.duke.edu
2/3 down the page there is a text box where you can
type designation comments. In this box type: Professor Bryan Cullen account
391-1628.
(All gifts designated for this account must be
credited to this account.)
Mail: Alumni and Development Records
Duke University Box 90581
Durham, NC 27708-0581
Phone: (919) 684-2338
Fax: (919) 684-8527
In the memo line of the check, please write: Professor Bryan Cullen
391-1628.
If have any questions, please contact:
Josh Bond
Director of Development
Duke Global Health Institute
Phone: (919) 681-7863
E-mail: joshua@duke.edu
7) What can I use to treat chronic HSV-1-induced cold sores or
HSV-2-induced genital ulcers now?
All treatment decisions should be made in consultation with your physician,
and no general guidelines will apply to everybody. While there are no drugs
that attack latent herpes viruses, three closely related prescription drugs
(Zovirax/acyclovir; Famvir/famciclovir and Valtrex/valacyclovir) are potent
inhibitors of active virus that work quite well and that you might discuss
with your physician.
8) What is the current status of your research?
Currently, we have completed our work on identifying small regulatory
microRNAs encoded by the genital herpes virus, HSV-2, and it turns out that
these are very similar to what we see in HSV-1 (oral herpes). So, a similar
treatment approach may succeed with both viruses. We are continuing our
efforts to test new “antisense” drugs in mice, and this work is moving
rather slowly at present, given the cost of animal experiments. However,
our initial data are promising. It will certainly still be years until we
have a drug candidate ready for clinical trial. I am sorry that we cannot
move faster, but am hopeful that a new grant proposal, which we submitted
on July 5, 2009, will be funded and will allow us to proceed more rapidly.
We hope this information answers your questions and is helpful. Please be
assured that we are continuing to work on the problem of developing novel
HSV-1 and HSV-2 treatment approaches.
well that is better than nothing.
Thank you for that information time. I think it would be great if we could post links to this so people HSV-I and II sufto donate en-masse to this cause. It sounds promising. 5 years to a cure for ex. I'm sure many of us are broke though from all the money we have to spend on treatment.
There actually is a celebrity with genital herpes. I saw her on vh1 she is a celebrity from the past..she was talking about how her behavior in the 70's caused her to get genital herpes..she also tries to spread awarness about it thought talking about safe sex....what is her freekin name? Maybe we can research it online
time2fly, i tried the baking soda, it actually raises your body PH like POSENergies said which I also tried with no luck....but it may work for some just not me......and thank you so much for the duke univ info..but sounds like I'll be 90 before it will benefit me and by then who cares....i've already wasted my 20's 30's and 40's sex life with this shi*...sooo but thank you for the info...good work! by the time a cure is out there I will be to old to have sex my entire life is ruined because of this ...I am not hopeful that duke will haelp me in my life time....
Kim, I feel your distress (believe me!). Since it is so prevalent for you, and you desire a sex life and relationship with someone who can understand and feel what you are going through, have you considered meeting someone through a herpes dating site? I have recently considering seeing who posts on there JUST because I can't bring myself to tell someone I have it. There is a guy who has been taking me out to dinner and has expressed wanting to have sex but I keep skirting around it.... I don't see a future with him, and I don't want EVERYONE I date to know I have it. I only want to tell the one I see a future with, because I will feel confident at that point that he would be willing to work around it however we had to...
i am sad tonight. this virus has me down as usual.
i have started the tcm-vsc. does anyone know the amount i am supposed to take to rid myself of H?
does anyone chat anymore?
Captin Cloud - There is no quick fix for herpes. Persistency and patience really pays off here. When ever I feel down from battling this virus; I just think about people suffering with AIDS and cancer.
Just take suplements regularly and soon you will begin to see improvements. Please check posts from Ibelieve - she posted dosage info for VSC-TCM.
This too WILL pass.
positiveenergies
I am working with a homeopathic doc, and this is what he told me today concerning HSV:
"to get out of the acute phase take graphitis 30C liquid (4 drops in the morning and 4 at night) you can take the other medicines along with this do not worry"
Hi friends
Honest Ernest here, your friend.
I want to tell you all about a product called Resolve.
I cant tell you the web address, but if you google it you will see what I mean.
It is a cure friends pure and simple.
Millions of people across the globe are now cured from this wonderful product.
Oh yeah.... where are they all hiding? Or are they dead?!
Yes your right Ernest, spoke to this bloke called dave said it would cure me for sure, just send the money quick, seems a nice bloke. THANK YOU ,THANK YOU , DAVE
Just spoke to dave again, said his friend Ray Ling Ling or was it Loo Loo, don,t know which but said he discoverd it, said he would take cash or credit card, very very nice man
Jack and ernest: please stop... no 1 here is that stupid..we all know about resolve here...aren't u smart enought to at least post on another hub?
Could we just ban the whole discussion about Resolve here on this hub, we all know it doesn´t work and I think it´s time to move on to another products aight?
Oh and by the way the one and only Hoff has HSV as well...
YME2330: It´s a hoax, found a site that that explained in detail what its made of, how it works and how legal it is... Got in touch with them, nice people, asked them a few questions and didn´t get the answers I hoped for... Recommend to pass.
no HE... it's just that you're an ass! Go get a life!
Hello all. I posted awhile ago and have since been a lurker. I have taken that mess Resolve and it did absolutely but make the situation worse. It even screwed up my menstrual period by making the day it starts change every month. Is there anyway to check the IP addresses or shall I say address of these aliases that snake Dave is using. Have you guys noticed the names of them. Honest Ernest, Boy from Oxford, and that other guy with the PhD. He has been using names like this hoping to give some credibility to his post. Oh boy the reviews on here must have been seriously cutting into his profits. To hell with him and that crap ass product.
Honest Ernest - The last time I took my car to a mechanic named Honest Abe - Well, I had to buy me a brand new car. So Honest Ernest, leave these good people here to find the cure and come over to Big Mama's hub. I will be serving up some good ole fashion arse whopping just for you. Serves you right for telling tall tales!
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
Hubbers - Please do not allow these plants to distract you from the cure. We are doing great coming up with alternative treatments and I really we are close to finding the cure. So, just ignore them or refer them to Mama.
Albeit - Could you pease post your experiences on my hub?
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
Thanks.
positiveenergies (Big Mama!)
Hello all,
I run www.ultimateherpescure.com. The absolute best things I've found so far are unfortunately Valtrex to stop the replication, baking soda to alkalize the system and MMS to kill it. I'm taking 500mg of Valtrex daily, when I do feel bites, burning, or at the first sign of any redness I drink 1/4 tsp. - 1/2 tsp. of baking soda in a glass of water 1 - 3 times a day. All symptoms stop rapidly. If you get light-headed, you've had too much - drink a soda.
As for MMS, it is working great. I don't currently have the time or ability to do massive amounts of it, but it has greatly reduced my HSV symptoms and outbreaks. You can actually feel it attacking it. I'll continue to track this blog for updated on MMS.
Thanks,
Herpescure
was talking to a drug researcher tonight and heres what he had to say about drugs such as valtrex.
drugs can be targeted to various organs. vlatrex heads directly to your skin cells so when you get an OB it runs into valtrex in the skin and it slows it down from replicating.
so i asked why didnt they make valtrex so that it went to your nerves in the spine.
he replied that that would possible cure it which is not what they want.
but he did not know if it could really be cured that way but basically valtrex goes right to the surface of your skin just as heart medicine goes to your heart and so forth.
HSV can be depressing captain cloud. I get so down sometimes, particularly when I have symptoms. Then I can't even legitimately feel sad because that stress is "good for H." I have to keep reminding myself that I am in a tough battle - Like Pose said - Can you imagine those people who fight like tooth and nail to beat cancer? We must have their resolve.
If you think about it, if you can conquer your symptoms - the only issue really left is the social stigma which can be minimized - you don't have to tell everyone like Time said.
I am only obligated to tell a potential partner about my HSV-I.
I think it will keep me from wasting my time with people who are not right for me. When I do find a special connection with someone, I hope that he will be able to handle it. I'm bracing for the fact that I may experience some rejection. But many other people have successfully found partners and their connection is stronger for it.
KIM - my heart breaks for you. Please do not give up. Try dating on sites for people with H. I hope you find companionship and relief from H on this aggressive path you are on at the moment. Good luck! I hope you are also eating well and staying healthy in other ways.
Best wishes to everyone.
ola my friends. how have you bine?
i just finish filming big film which do be why i not be here for long time.
has a cure bine found yet? ?can i get update?
I'm so mad right now bc I feel an outbreak coming on--I hope it doesn't bc it will just mess up my weekend. I hope the things I'm taking will stop it!
ibeleive--pls where is the alt. doct you saw located? i think i wanna see one. I'm getting depressed right now.
Wow, i can't believe that nobody has posted for 13 hrs--where's the encouragement when you need it? Guys pls talk to me--lol. But seriously, somebody say something!
LA: I am coming down from my OB with the help of drinking the 1/4 tsp of baking soda in water. I have been doing it morning and evening and I really think it has helped ease the pain. I am also working with a homeopath who is having me do different treatments for an oily skin condition and now also for the herpes. The first thing he said for the herpes is to take graphtis 30 liquid, 4 drops AM and 4 drop PM to get past the acute period...
try to stay positive, I know it is hard, especially when other things in your life may also not be going the way you had hoped (that is my issue)
LA: SOMETHING! (Sorry ... couldn't resist!)
Timetofly--thanks for your words of encourangement.
Canada25--lol, that helps too--you made me laugh.
LA, sorry you are having a hard time. Please try this: take 2 capsules of Vitamin C every hour until you cannot stand it. Vitamin C is a good anti-viral. I've been taking it and I have more energy and feel better. It is okay to megadose on Vitamin C, but when you get loose stools BACK OFF. Also, if you can afford it, go to the health food store and get some Colloidal Silver and put some drops of it on your outbreak. By tomorrow it should be gone. Also ingest some of the Colloidal Silver (follow the directions on the bottle). I use Sovereign Colloidal Silver. It should help. Can you get some more TCM VS-C? I know I've posted this before, but if you take this TCM VS-C for 3 to 6 months, it has been known to eradicate this virus. Follow the directions on the bottle, I believe it is 2 capsules with every meal.
I hope what I have said helps you. I feel your pain. Good luck and get some rest if you can. Try not to stress, Okay? Know that there are cures out there, and try to stay positive. I am having a hard time, too...
So I'm having trouble getting my UVBI IV and Vitamin C IV treatments because my veins are so tiny (the nurse stuck me four times Thursday before I gave up, weak, pale, and in pain and nauseated). I am not sure what to do about this. :( Anyone know what I should do? I'm going to ask the nurse to try to stick the needle in my ankles next Tuesday, but I am worried because my legs are too heavy to probably even find a vein. I've got to try to get nine more treatments. Help! How can I go on with this? I really want to get cured and I feel this is the best way for me.
My vs-c came in and i had just got a bad cold.
I took four pills and went to bed and when I got up i was feeling better.
Now a day later the cold is fully gone but it started out very bad and I bet it was gonna get worse.
Who was it besides Pos. that started ribivirin?
Can we get an update?
Apparently if you email jimmy humbles help people they are not interested in helping you unless you an on buying mms1 or mms2...the first email (which they awnsered in a couple hours) they directed me to a page to buy mms1 and told me how to buy mms2 when I emailed them back Asking a question about mms2 but implying I can't buy it I get no response its been almost a week...I'm disappointed hope this is not a scam the guy is acting as if he is only interested in sales. :(
TO EVERYONE WANTING TO MAKE THEIR OWN MMS2
Its not that hard if you don't want to spend 48 to have it sent then read this. I bought pool shock for 2.99 and empty pill capsules from whole foods for 3.48.only open one small corner of the shock. Get a styrophone cup cut the cup so there is only the bottom and around 1.5 or two inches attched to the bottom. Turn it over use a pen or the end of a rat tooth comb and make holes the size of the pill. Flip the cup upside down.You will get around ten holes to work with. Seperate the pills and put longer side of pills in holes, pour shock in pills then shift cup side to side to remove any spilled shock.put tops on pills but do not fully close them yet just push tops down gently.place fingers over all pill caps and shake off all access shock. (You want to toch the shock as little as possible) push each pill out and lock the cap on,you will hear in snap on.
Mistakenly touched send...I aslo wanted to add after ur done shaking access shock off push pills out from bottom up (pushing down on cup will crack it.....this really doen not even take long I made 80 pills today and I only stopped because I have to get ready to go out tonite......I just wanted you all interested in MMS2 to know about this....
Kathleen, thank you so much for your response. I am still taking vsc-tcm concentrate and I plan on taking until March of next year when I can test. I am going to get 6 more bottles and I'll be ordering them soon too. I'll buy vitamin C this next week, but the colloidal silver--isn't it the one that turns people blue? Well, the nerve pain subsided some after I just woke up from a long nap--thank God! I really hope we beat this thing! I'm sorry you are having a hard time with the needles. For people with thin vein, the nurse should use the smallest needle and she can also try the back of your hand--you know opposite of your palm. Also, try to be well hydrated before you go because it'll help the vessels to pop up easier. Hope, it gets better for you. Good luck to everyone!
Hi I am new to the hub. I just got H and want to know if this thing called Resolve is a cure?
Thought of the Day.... kingdoms are formed from the ruins of weak cities... be prepared to build or be destroyed!!!
HEY FAMILY... how is everyone? Well I've been running around trying to do the act right lol just wanted to check in and check up anything interesting? Keep on struttin!!!
Google the following:
vivagel
AG-707
Knipe lab harvard
immunovex
lsu herpres
bill halford
fsu herpes
I was thinking that since the FDA wont let any cures be available then what could be done is this.
First go to a rather poor country with the hammerhead ribosomes from duke.
Then get their government to approve it.
Then advertise worldwide that anyone can come to this country and take the drug.
This will bring tourism into the country and lots of money.
Then the drug companies here in the US and other areas will change.
arent I smart??
herbsmithy, I will never go on a H dating site. I dont deserve to be on that site. isolated like i have leporacy or something.....also I can catch their strain of H along with mine..no way...as a matter of fact. if i didnt hav H i would NEVER EVER date someone with H or any other virus or disease that is contagious..sounds selfish but thats how it is...and I still dont want to date anyone with H..not a chance ...I will be cured and be the 4 out of 5 without H..yes I WILL BE WITHOUT H and will never ever date anyone with H..a blood test will be first...this virus has caused me thousands of outbreaks really thousands over 24 years of OB after OB and thousands of thousands of tears and crying and pain...not a chance in HEL* would I ever date anyone with H even now..not a chance....it has been a secret for all these years and will remain a secret..i know some on the hub will be upset but they dont walk in my shoes and dont have OB OB OB OB OB OB OB if I had an OB 4 times a year it would be a blessing and I would fall on my knees and thank GOD..but getting 5-12 OB a month or so...NO I WILL NEVER EVER tell a partner never have and never will...call me selfish...but thats how it is ....would you date someone with an OB 5 or more times a month..I WOULDNT! OK enough of my ranting...thanks for the advise I know you mean well and are trying to help..i appreciate that but this virus has defined me for more then half my life and I can not subject myself to the isolation of a H dating site..it would be more painful to me...I just cant do it...but thank you for your advise and I can tell you are really trying to make me feel better and I appreciate that..thank you really i mean that....
Thought of the day.... the sacrifices we make to live sometimes lead to death.
KIM... hey hon I'm with you so if they feel a need to attack than they attack the both of us. I dont get symptoms atleast not traditional (when you have h everything becomes a symptom lol) but I also dont engage in sexual activity without protection if at all. I told one guy that I was possibly infected but would have to wait to test to make sure it's just beyond me to say that I have it cause my heart really doesnt believe. I hope to find someone that will accept me flaws and all but I wont have h as one of em u know. No one ever gave me a medical background before having relations so yes I could change things yes I could put myself out there and be exploited (which is borderline insane when you dont have symptoms) how many would tell a soul they had h if they had no symptoms? I take remedy after remedy to get this viral load down but in all honesty I dont even know if I am infected or merely exposed so how can i allow myself to be diagnosed with such a thing that the 'professionals' dont understand. I ask that if you elect to live this way KIM to be strong about the consequences that come with it there is a possibility of receiving a phone call from an old flame or losing someone who might have stayed if you were honest the resentment and hatred that can be felt but then again I'm cool with the guy who infected me but once again I believe that is because I dont get symptoms. How much pain can you bear? Also pls be careful wear protection and dont do anything while having an ob but hell then sometimes you dont even know when that is I dont know hon. Life should go on but somehow it doesnt. Still you are human and deserve companionship. I am trying to heal myself first and then seek a 'healthy' relationship I can suggest that you choose your path and walk it faithfully no matter what comes.
Lep: just to be clear, no one is attacking Kim, we are only trying to be encouraging, uplifting, and layout other options.
I don't know that I feel great about an H dating service, but they are in our same boat. They have reached the point where they do not want to be judged or go through the embarrassment of revealing H to a partner that may not have it. It provides a level of safety for someone who wants to be rid f the virus as much as we do, but who also wants a relationship without the worry. If you have the virus, you have the virus. There are no extra strains. My ex husband gave it to me knowingly, but later said he didn't realize the magnitude of it. We had sex for 18 years. He would get small OBs every month but I had no OBs for 18 years, and we didn't use protection. The stress of our demise is what finally got my H to rear its ugliness.
Now that I am single and free to find my true love, I am experiencing Obs. How is that for fairness?! He gets the best years of my life, and now that I can finally look for my soulmate, I have this crap to deal with!! I know I was infected 18 years earlier, I just never got OBs. Life is not fair, but we have to learn how to make the best of it. I am sure there are people on the H dating sites with all of your same fears and same desire for love, they just can't go on living life without trying to find someone to love or revealing to someone that they have H.
Kim & Lep - Yes, I am going to give my two cents on this one. I was infected by my boyfriend. He knew he had it and lied to me. I have suffered endlessly and needlessly. If I meet someone whom I want to establish a relationship with, then we will both take full screen STD test and be aware of each other status. If he decides he wants a relationship with me and is willing to take the risk - then no problem. But I am going to be as open as possible. Lies and deceit have caused me much pain.
I remember the putrid, festering hatred that I had encapsulated in my soul for my ex-boyfriend. I remember wishing every evil and vicious thing on the universe descend on him. Then, I slowly had to let it go because it only hampered my healing. But above all, I have absolutely no desire to infect another person and perpetuate this vicious, unending cycle of suffering and pain.
As far as going on STDs sites - Well, I realize that there is absolutely nothing wrong with me and therefore there is nothing wrong with the person on that site. Herpes does not make me or that person unworthy! Herpes does not condemn me or that person! This virus is highly contagious and even though my doctor said that I am a very, very, low risk for transmission - I am still going to be honest. I am well aware that there are different strains of the herpes virus and other viruses out there.
I have learned in life just a few lessions: 1) Life is not fair 2)Two wrongs does not ever make a right and 3)What goes around comes around.
Please understand, I am not angry with either of you. Our decisions and the responsibilities for our actions are our very own, and we must answer for those or pay the consequences.
I am not self-righteous - just fair to the next person who crosses my path on the road of life.
Once again, I respect your opinions and decisions - they are just not mine.
positiveenergies
leprechaun, i am just so sick of being one in four..sick of it...I dont want to be reminded of it daily...
time2fly, leprechaun was just mentioning that IF someone were to attack me on my opinion she was just saying she was there with me...thats all. I say NO to H dating sites..not a chance I want to be free to date anyone not just people infected wth H..thats what I have been doing over 24 years and will continue to do..just my opinion..i just know that not all with H share my opinion...some may say how dare she or things like that ..but they are not me and have not walked in my shoes....until someone has then they can judge...i was just voicing my opinion and preparing myself for an attack as in the past some did say i was selfish and things like that..but they never walked in my shoes..this is just my opinion and how I live my life..i will date but NEver on an H site..not a chance...
positive energies, thanks ofr your post but I will NEVER subject myself to rejection because SOMEONE GAVE ME H.never..noone will want to date someone who has OB 5 times or more a month ...i'm being realistic..i am not your average H patient..so I never tell and never will...lies cause pain but H causes more deep deep deep pain...i have gone through several relationships and the pain comes and goes with H it is still here after 24 years ITS STILL HERE just as painful and even more painful as it was 24 years ago ..see the difference....pain that comes and goes as in relationships or a constant deep severe stabbing heartbreaking pain......thats H to me....constant reminder of how stupid I was 24 years ago to believe someone ...to trust someone..now the rest of my life ruined and i do mean ruined...H does define me...it does.....and I refuse to let it control my relationships...it has enough of my life..i dont want it to control that too....i have no desire to infect anyone but i have no desire to tell either...i cant and i will not tell any partner ever...never ever...I understand your position on this subject and am not angry either..you guys are my friends..i was just prepared for an attack as some on the hub are more then willing to tell anyone or their partner they have H ....I am not and i will NEVER tell EVER...i am glad we can post our opinions on this hub and still be friends...I know you got my back girl...when I am down you are right there to support my emotions..I appreciate that..... : 0 )
Oh, i stopped the MMS got sick and stopped...I got something from resolve and will take that...so see what happens will start that tomorrow and still waiting on my VS-C TCM...I also stopped the biogetica i dont think the biogetica and MMS should bbe taken together as the biogetica is actually the virus being taken to combat the bvirus like a vaccine and MMS ditroys the virus so the two together is a no no in my book...i will take what resolve gave me and see what happens if nothing then I will only take the biogetica for 5-6 months one thing at a time....so this is my journey.....
What'up Lep..Good to see you back on the board
KIM, KIM, KIM....Sorry about your situation... but let's play it safe...Get you some tools my friend, get you a good porno site, and work your thing...smile...This might sound crazy to you, but it's the safest. I will not go to H-DATING SITE, because some people might have more than H, AND THEY AIN'T TELLING.
I did not know about the signs of H, PRIOR TO BEING INFECTED. I know the person who infected me knew she had H, but did not care. It will be criminal, if i tell you the thoughts that ran through my mind when i first found out. Even today, i will rest easy, if i remotely hear that this person is dead, knowing that she wouldn't hurt anyone else. People lose their minds when they find out they have H. Not all can control their emosions, so don't victimise yourself for the second time. You've got kids to raise. Just my two cents.
Kim - I'm with you. NO H dating sites. Keep your eye on the prize to be cured.
I will be testing this week. I have been taking about 60 oxygen drops every day. That is all I have been doing. The MMS just made me so sick, I could not bear it anymore.
Lep - I am glad to see you back on the hub. It is nice to see the regulars.
I am still hopeful that one day my IGG will be negative.
After I get tested and if I am still positive, I am going to start the same protocol Kathleen is doing with the IV vitamin C treatments. I am still looking for a doctor in Houston who offers that service. There are past cases where patients have sero-converted. So, I am hopeful still.
Be well my fellow hubbers.
I found a site where people are testing the MMS2 on themselves, not necessarily for herpes, but they are ingesting the stuff!! One poster gave a very detailed account of his experience so far (and he is still alive and his wife too!). Check it out......
Ava...When you said IV, i was thinking about michael Jackson, Y'all be careful hear?.
R..If you're reading, could you please answer me this: Were you still active in IRAQ when you took MMS. How much sun-shine did you have per day while taking it? I have almost completed my first bottle of MMS. I am waiting on the second one. Your information could be helpful, because i am theorising that if i stay on 15 drops 3x perday, and do some sunbathing, it will force these monsters to fall off the cliff to their ultimate demise. I know i will be darker than Kintakunte when i am done, but that's OK. lol...lol..lol
AVA-are you the heights or montrose now?
HEY EVERYONE..LOL..Yall know I had to add my two cents.
I told people about my condition because it was apart of my healing..I am not the type to let this "umbrella of shame" keep me down.. I told people because I really am one of the best..you know NEVER SAY DIE..Since finishing school, some of these same people have started to AVOID me..especially when I passed my BIG test..no friends lately..know why..cause despite it all ..I RISE..skinning and grinning..despite it all..I don't know any better..is it a curse or a blessing..I get down but don't stay down..just aint for me..Aint trying to ATTACK anyone..I am just speaking from the heart..PERIOD..no string attached..wanted to tell yall a little bit more about me..
Kim, Lep, Denni, Ava, Lee - This hub has saved my life. I think the world of each of you. I admire Kim's and Denni's fierce tenacity, Lep's optimism, Ava's strength, and Lee's straight forward approach. We all want the same thing and yes, Herpes has changed our lives.
If we allow labeling to define us, then we have already lost. If we allow the world to tell us how to feel, then we have lost.
Whatever our approaches to healing ourselves, let's not forget this vital perspective. Maybe part of the cure is to stop thinking about ourselves as unworthy, or unclean, or infected. Maybe, we need to change that thinking and the cure begins within each of us.
I think everyone of you are GREAT! I don't see Kim with the herpes virus. I see tenacious Kim, Kim the fighter, Kim who will not say die! That is how I think of everyone of you.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with us. We are worthy.
More than ever, I know I will not have this virus for much longer. I feel it in my bones and I know it! But first, see yourself as WORTHY of being cured. I am definitely worhty of that!
Let's employ the universal laws of The Secret to make this happen together. I know we can do it!
positiveenergies
HEY GUYS! IVE GOT SOME IMPORTANT INFO FOR ALL OF US!
Ive been keeping track here and there for the past 2 years, I saw that people thought they were cured from Resolve and were not so Ive decided not to use it. I see you guys are using MMS, I think that's great but PLEASE NOTE if you have amalgam(silver) fillings in your mouth they contain mercury and MMS is a chelator which means it will mobilize it which can be very dangerous. Go ahead and do a quick google search. I myself have been getting my amalgams removed and replaced because of how detrimental the effects on the immune system are. Moving on.. Im excited about the VCG too and wanted to let you know that NATURES SUNSHINE is a wonderful company to buy from because alot of supplements these days are either poor quality or contaminated, I see an herbalist and he said there are only 3 companies that he will use and Natures Sunshine is one. ; )
Now for my Important News for US... In my quest I stumbled upon Dr. Huldas Book the Cure for all Diseases, (very good book by the way) she is very respected in her field (microbiology) and believes all diseases are caused by parasites, enviromental toxins, and molds. She has a device called a Parazapper that kills parasites,bacteria, and VIRUSES in the body in 21 minutes (bioelectrification). She has been using these devices in Africa to rid people of AIDS. She has many followers and her devices are very affordable (around 50$)and she even gives the plans on her website to build one yourself. Please Google HULDA CLARK for more info on her. But it gets better, these devices (zappers) are so effective and popular around the world that people have been making and improving on them. I am personally using the zapper from www.organiseafrica.com which uses pure silver electrodes(which they are hoping will give a similiar effect to colloidial silver) and a orgone generator which enhances the bodys energy field. It is fascinating technology you can learn more at the organise africa site.. The device sends an electrical current through the body and Ive been wearing it while I sleep. I've only had it a few weeks so I will keep you posted but I want others to start playing in this area with me because it is so promising, theres a ton of info on zappers online. Thirdly I discovered via Curezone a guy named Bob Beck who has a 5 step protocol in healing any disease which is similiar to what Im doing and there are a ton of positive testomonials on him but I havent had too much time to research with the new baby and all so heres the link please check this out http://www.sharinghealth.com/site%20map.html. Every disease has a frequency and herpes is no exception, 1552 on the Rife machine kills it too. Fascinating stuff guys. Look into it! Like you are saying there is no magic bullit, but we are getting sooo close! But I do believe that Amalgam fillings, parasites and molds are keeping our immune systems so down that we have to Address these issues if we are to beat H. I wish I could touch on this in much more detail but I have a crazy work load right now! Death to H!
Hi All,
A couple of things that I want to mention. I was researching VSC and found this article.
http://www.treelite.com/members/handouts/vsc.pdf
At the end, they DO say that it can eliminate the virus in SOME.
Also if you want to find out more about Hulda Clark, read this piece in wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulda_Regehr_Clark
I was particularly stunned at this section.
"In 1993, while Clark lived and practiced in Indiana, a former patient complained to the Indiana attorney general. An investigator for the Indiana Department of Health and a deputy attorney general visited her office incognito as part of a sting operation. Clark proceeded to test the investigator and "told him he had the HIV virus [sic], but said that he did not have cancer." She told the investigator that she could cure his HIV in 3 minutes, but that he would "get it back" unless he committed to returning for six more appointments. She then ordered blood tests from a laboratory. Upon learning of the undercover investigators' status, Clark stated that everything she had told them had been a "mistake". Two days later she had vacated the premises."
Kind of sounds like TC.......
Anyway, I think I will take VSC and MMS together and see what happens.
kim..kim please try to go on at least 3 months with MMS..you can stop biogetica , it doesnt matter....but.. any way dont make your body this much resistance to the virus.you can back to the drop,, but please,, please finish first at least 3 month, then you will get a result about.. mms.
i did RIFE I did the zappers.
none of them worked.
Hi everyone......just checking in.....I am doing good....no symptoms in about 4 months now and counting!!!!.....I plan on retesting soon like Ava to find out where I am with my numbers with an Igg test......It's so good to here from all the old hubbers like denni, kim, ava, bayern, Lep, ddd, positiveenergies, lee, time2fly, Kathleen, fatharold, LA, and anyone else I forgot to mention....I truly appreciate and enjoy everyone's input regarding this virus and continuing to find ways to erradicate it from our body for good.......
Take care everyone and I will keep you guys posted on my results when I get them
In case yall are interested, I have been taking Lecithin 2 tabs twice a day and Zinc 50mg a day along with VitD3 20,000 in divided doses four times a week with good results, so far..I rub my neck and spine bid with OOO and take OLE once daily..I want to try Ribavirin but I found out real quick that I can't afford it."right now" I want to test again before starting it anyway..
OLE wont work.
been there tried it....hell i have tried it all at this point.
bayern,i have been takinhg MMS since end of July and this am woke to another OB i stopped taking MMS just 2 days ago...it has not worked yet after suffering 60 days on that crap.. i will start taking it again tonight but I really dont want to..i dont notice a differenc i have had 3 - 4 OB in the last 3 weeks...I will take the MMS until the end of Oct but that will be 3 months of that crap and it has done nothing so far...NOTHING i still have had several OB this month..nothing has changed....sooooooooo i dont iknow what another 3 weeks is going to do???? if 8 9 weeks did nothing another 4 should do nothing as well but i will do 4 more disqusting weeks of this crap..its really making me sick of that bleach smell...i cant take it much more....and the diarrea......now someone posted about the silver teeth. which i have.....soooooo but i will do 4 more weeks..only on your suggestion but I dont se it will do anything for me....i will keep you posted
Lee, you're so funny but no prono it does nothing for me...lol i need the real thing
kim what dose are you at?
canada25, I was taking 5 drops of MMS every hour or so...then got diarrea again and stopped about 2 days ago and jsut started again every hour now at just 3-4 drops tomorrow will be back at 4-5 drops every hour...
Anyone trying mms 2?
Kim - I'm glad you know I only meant to wish you well.
We will all make different choices about how we deal with things but ultimately I like this hub because I can see that you all support each other and you remain focused on trying on the goal.
Denni - I am also on Lecithin and OLE in my protocol. I use Lecithin granules though so I add them to my morning omlette. I have enough pills to swallow. I have also added Pau D'arco which is supposed to be good for H. I will also try Ribavirin as soon as I can afford it - it's pricey stuff.
Cali - Congratulations on 4 months symptom free.
I'm taking milk thistle for liver support. Anyone know of a good kidney support herb?
Edit: How is it that some people have enough time on their hands to be nasty, cruel, and silly toward others. H is not in control of our bodies. We are. Like others before us, we shall come out on top. It's just a matter of time.
Well I didnt mean to be cruel.
I was trying to inspire you all.
Give you a reason to stand up and fight.
ok ok the cure that will kill me, well it starts with an R
herbsmithy....thanks for the kind words....I truly just try to take one day at a time....and be thankful everyday for my life.....thanks for sharing what treatments you are on.....I second what you said about this hub.....the people on here are like family to me....I always know if I'm having a hard day or just feeling a little down...someone will always be there with kind words and support.....take care......
google Bavituximab
thanks bill for the thing to google. its upstanding young men like you who makes this hub great.
Bill - I am not defending Kim - I am simply asking for understanding. No other hubber on this site have endured what she has. No one here gets so many outbreaks month after month, year after year, for all of 23 years. I hear her cries and feel her pain. She comes to this hub to release her pain.
I do NOT agree with her dating opinions but I respect her right to have one. I have not walked in her shoes; I have not suffered like she has. Without a doubt, those sufferings have scarred her.
If we cannot come to this hub and cry out loud, then where can we go? In our judgement and criticism, maybe we also need to be emphatize.
positiveenergies
Hey Bill : Thanks for bavituximab. it seems promising .I hope it will be ready before 3-5 years...
About Kim : I do agree with positiveenergies. We all need understanding here. I don't think she degrades people with h when she says she wouldn't date with them. We all carry this sht and we are all precious to the ones who love us. Yet we cannot tell them that we have h. This situation is hard. You should know it. I agree with Kim in not dating with people carrying h because to me it is kind of surrendering. But I do not date with anyone who doesn't have it either. I hope I'll get cured soon and find the one who loves me truly. I do appreciate anyone who dates with h+ or h-. This is just my opinion. You don't have to agree but you could understand at least. And please do not forget that everybody is unique and have different ways of thinking, feeling and acting. You cannot expect people to think,feel and act the way you do . And I think you shouldn't call people names when they don't do what you do. Maybe you could understand her more if you were also infected for so long. I know Kim you me pos and all of us will get cured someday. We all deserve the cure and love.
Wish all the best for you all...
Bill.......You are telling the truth with that dinner special of raw meat, and some here don't like blunt talk. I do. People with H having sex in cognito with people presumed to be clean is the easiest way to pile on with other deseases. You are afraid of asking for a test fearing you might blow your cover. The other person may be doing the same. This is very tricky y'all. We need to be careful. We know better.+
Bill and Lee - Trust me, I totally understand what you are saying. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Both people should take full screen STDs test and put the results on the table. Lies and deceit got me into this mess and I will not perpetuate it. Nor will I knowingly spread this virus.
Nevertheless, we all suffer differently and respond differently. Some arise wiser and stronger from the hurt - and some just hurt. I only try to understand.
positiveenergies
I have yet another OB starting this AM so I will stop the MMS I feel it is dong NOTHING...I will take what resolve sent me....see what happens and keep the biogetica on the shelf until i finish what resolve gave me .....still waiting on the VS-C TCM...its been 10 days now...
soclose, thank you, SOME of us have an understanding....
Positiveenergies, I thank you too for your UNDERSTANDING..
Hello, have not been here in some time. I finally got another blood test. My reading went from 2.85 from original reading to 1.79 IgG so not quite sure what to think. i took everything and guess I will keep at it. Have not taken anything for some time so maybe I will get back on the stuff and see if I can get below the .90. I guess this is encouraging. Any thoughts from anyone on the numbers. Did anyone have success with Sebi's formula??
Thanks,
Chip
I was reading where glaxo smith cline has developed a new drug that will prevent transmission of the virus and its been proven to work.
I dont know what stage its in or when it will be out though.
But at least then you can take it and not worry about who you jump in bed with.
chip, nice to see you back on here. I have tried almost everything as well ...everything but the kitchen sink and I have a plumber tomorrow who will remove it for me to give it a try...lol....
Kim, what did Resolve give to you this time?
Thanks - Super
Hello everyone, a quick update: last Tuesday I had my first Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation IV and Vitamin C treatments successfully. Then last Tuesday I tried my second treatment and since I have baby veins the nurse stuck my arms four times before we gave up. Today I had my second treatment successfully. They told me most people with this virus can seroconvert to negative after 10 treatments of UVBI + Vit C treatments. So 2 down, 8 to go. They are getting expensive so later this week I'll just have the UVBI and then next week I'll try both. Perhaps by mid November I will have all the treatments, then I'll test. I will keep everyone posted. I really hate needles, so if I can do this, anyone can! :)
So who is doing TCM VS-C? I still want to do this, but don't have the extra money to get some right now. I'd like to hear how Jessica and iBelieve are doing on their protocol. Did you two get your Silver Shield yet? Where are you buying your stuff?
Kim: Where did you order your TCM VS-C? I wonder why it is taking so long for you to get it? Hmmm. Maybe I can suggest an alternate website - if you are interested let me know.
Hope everyone is doing well. If you have a chance, email me, Ava and Denni, I'd like to know how you're doing.
Soclose: all is well with you? When are you going to continue your ozone therapy?
Kathleen hi. I'm wating to be paid before I start the ozone again. If I get ozone therapy from a clinic it will cost me 2.400 USD a month. And I want to do it at least for 6 months. This I cannot afford. As I've told you before the generator seems the best solution for me which is like 3.000 Euros approximately 4.000 USD. If I can, I'll try to buy it I've found the distributor and everything. I'm also intersted in UVIB but I couldn't find anyone doing it here. Could you please mention abut the costs of UVIB + vit c treatment ...
Kim : I'm with you. You are in my prayers. Even in my meditation I sometimes think of you and wish all the best for you. It doesn't matter who suffers . If there is pain it is all ours. We'll beat it believe me ! We all deserve the cure and we are really very close to find it.
With love to all...
Thanks in advance.
Kathleen : I've read the prices on your previous posts. Will you have it once a week for 10 weeks ?
Thanks...
kathleen, I ordered it from healthy sunshine or something like that...I finally had to pick it up myself yesteday from UPS..they had my address wrong ,,,i ordered it on the 19th and the company did not place it in the mail until the 24th and because of the wrong address i finally had to get it myself yesterday!
soclose, thank you for your kind words...
superhopeful, I'm not sure could be the same stuff as before..looks the same..but i will see...i will take that no more MMS..as I dont think the MMS is doing anything for me..after 9 weeks i still have OB OB OB OB what is amazing is the meditation on the biogetica web site you should try it ...it is simply amazing!
Hoping to be cured soon...........
Still watching, still waiting, if paul {yoda } still keeps an eye on this site, drop in and tell us what your doing , I liked your posts.
kathleeen ! I've found only one doctor doing UVBI in my country and got my first session today ! He also does ozone and gave a good price for both. So I'll have it twice a week for 6 weeks. Thank you very very much for sharing this valuable info. UVBI seems very promising. Doc says he cured HIV once and hsv2 once. If he is ''HUMAN'' I'll be cured and then all of us ! ! ! :))
Hey guys how do I find doc info about the UVBI IV and Vit C treatments?
Here is a reply I just got in my email.
Dear Fat Harold,
Bavituximab is in a clinical trial for the treatment of HCV patients co-infected with HIV, and it is also being tested preclinically in viral hemorrhagic fevers under a grant from the U.S. Department of Defense. Bavituximab has not been tested in herpes simplex viruses, but researchers have shown the phosphatidylserine (PS), which bavituximab targets, does become exposed on cells infected with herpes simplex viruses. While it is possible that the company or a partner will investigate bavituximab as a potential HSV treatment in the future, current resources are not availalble for these clinical studies at this time. Thank you for your inquiry.
Thank you for your support of Peregrine.
the nice thing is that if this becomes available for hepetitus then we can buy it and take it for H.
Probably have to go to mexico to get it though.
Just wanted to say Goodbye. I won't be back anymore. I went to the Dr. yesterday and after all that I have been through he determined I have never had herpes. I may have been exposed to it but actually never had a breakout so the first read was either a false positive or the Igg reading was just a result of exposure but no infection so adious, I won't be back. I wish you all well and I went through too much mental strain for a year to end up with something that may or may not have been . They cross checked this with other test and the Dr. said you don't have it. Take care. I now delete everything on my computer about H.
Take care.
Chip
Hi Kathleen. I sent you an email asking for the Doc info on UVBI treatments. I have tried almost everything and am on the last leg. If this doesnt work I am going to try Dr. Sebi's treatment. The program ranges between about $450-1500 a month.
Has anyone tried the Hypericum Mysorense from the Biogetica website? It says that nothing else suppressed the virus as well as this stuff...
see thats what I want to do one day real soon delete everything about H...EVERYTHING ...because I won't have IT....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm not holding my breath though
superhopeful, I dont want a supressant I want a cure...I am taking biogetica..you should try the meditation on their site amazing!
SuperHopeful - I have tried it and its no big deal. I think if you take St. John's Wort you will probably get the same results. That's what I am doing. Besides, Biogetica is very unreliable and I really do not recommend doing business with them. I find them very unprofessional. If shipments are late and you ask them about it, you may get an e-mail but after that you don't hear from them. I have an order that was supposedly shipped since August and still have not arrived. Simply ridiculous. They are not worth the hype.
positiveenergies
Is anyone taking the MMS1 and MMS2 together for the 3 weeks Jim Hubble defines on his web page?
I spoke with an infectious diseases doc and he said the MMS2 would only work against bacteria, not viruses.
More heartbreak. I don't have to worry about telling the guy I love about H because we broke up. Not because we wanted to, just bad timing. Maybe when the time IS right, I will be cured and not have to worry about telling then. Lots of IFs in that sentence.
Drugs in the Herpes pipeline die not from a lack of efficacy,but from a lack of funding/interest. While drugs that may reduce diarhea may cause: itching, rapid heartbeat, testicular swelling, whooping cough and severe diarhea become readily available. I beleive a cure is out there but mabye the company did not have the 200 mil to 1 bil to push it through clinical trials. What we need is something that works for both HIV and HSV because HIV and cancer meds are the only things that ever get fast track status. They are both enveloped virii. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Kathleeen : Where r u ? :) I have many questions to ask you.
When you get ozone how much blood do they take from your body and give it back after ozonating ?
When you get UVBI how much blood do they take from your body and give it back after irradiating ?
AW shucks!!!!!
I went out last night to celebrate being free of H and guess what I ended up catching???!!!!!!
Well it looks like I am back on the hub again.
:(
Soclose, I am thrilled that you got a treatment! How do you feel today? Were you aching afterwards? I feel wonderful after mine. It is really helping my immune system.
Which type of UVBI treatment did you get?
For UVBI, the medical procedure is as follows: 60-100 cc. of blood are collected by vein puncture into a 60 cc. syringe or an I.V. bag which is connected to silicon and glass tubing. The blood flows through the tubing and passes across an ultraviolet light and is then collected in the syringe or I.V. bag. From this container it is re-infused. The procedure takes approximately 15 - 25 minutes. All equipment is sterile and is disposed of after each use.
I think the amount of blood that is removed and irradiated depends on your weight. You might also ask your alt doc for more information. He or she might do it a little differently since I am in the USA and you are not, not sure.
Kim: I'm glad you finally received your TCM VS-C! Hurrah! Is it Nature's Sunshine? That should be the only brand to trust based on my research.
albeit: I emailed you last night. Please let me know if you have more questions, I'll be happy to answer them. Good luck!
Hope everyone's doing well today.
Chip : Are you kidding ????
Kim : You should consider this UVBI. Or you can wait for my or Kathleen's results. I've had my first session yesterday. The doc is nearly sure that it will be over. He says he has cured a woman with genital herpes using both ozone cupping and UVBI I don't want to give hope for nothing but I really am excited. I think UVBI + Ozone + MMS1 + MMS 2(not arrived yet) + Lysine tablets + Lecithin + Lauricidin + Heat all together will do something :)
Kathleen : Hi ! I'll get the second session tomorrow. It is the same process with the one you've written. 60 cc shringe.. and yes it takes 25 min. I'm very excited. How do you get your ozone ? How many ccs of blood do they get from your body and then give it back ? How often do you get it ? Which kinds do you do on your own ? All ???
Thanks thanks thanks. You and the doc gave me hope more than ever.I'm so excited.
With love to all. We'll beat it ! ! !
Chip - Nice try! The herpes virus has an incubation period of 6 to 8 days.
positiveenergies
Hubbers - Guess who has another hub?
http://hubpages.com/hub/AIDS-is-not-sexually-trans
Sick and Sad!
positiveenergies
I used flax seed oil nd drank apple cider vinegar and i havent brokeout for 3 months
After careful analysis of 'chip', in my opinion (and mine is all that counts) I can assure you that 'chip' is not the same chip you have all been talking with.
Ya, apple cider vinegar is supposed to PH balance the body and be good for just about everything under the sun.
Well, I got my once every 3 or 4 week OB today. It was kinda strange though... two large blisters and I didn't even feel it coming on this time. I wouldn't have known they were even there had I not looked down after I got out of the shower. So I decided to take the plunge and start Ribavirin tonight!!! took my first 400mg dose. I hope my hair doesn't fall out from this stuff! But I am determined to put this stuff to the test.
Super
Hi Kim, can I check with you what's the result of using TCM VS-C? Really want to start on it. Also, where's the best site to purchase it if I'm overseas? Thanks again.
superhopeful : what are you using as a treatment right now ?
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jackbig, i just started the TCM-VS-C about 3 days ago...I will let you know my progress...I got it at natures sunshine
kathleen, yes nature's sunshine is where i got two bottles from i also ordered the most expensive kit on biogetica which should arrive any day now..
chip, huh??? how do you know you have H when you were only out last night???
3 da ya dig, i tried teh apple cider thing and it did NOTHING for me ...
soclose , yea but it is so expensive right like 2000.00 right??? and no money back guarantee right??
I have the kit from resolve and mixed it but have not started taking it yet...i will take it soon but want to try these other things first see if it curbs my OB and hopefully closer to my cure...
Kim : UVBI is like 800 USD for 12 sessions here.Together with ozone it is 1.500 USD for 12 sessions. The doc gave a special price for me. I hope you were in a poor country like me :(
Hey all : I've ordered mms2 from jim humble's guys( which say we are not related with jim humble ). It's been 15 days but not arrived yet...
SuperHopeful,
Very interested in your ribavirin experiment. It supposedly works by creating a transcription error in the replicated virions which renders them inert, and harmless. It remains to be seen if it will do that to the virus that's actually permanently infecting the ganglia. There's surprisingly little about ribavirin and treating H on the web. It is approved for treatment of H in Mexico though.
How did you get it?
Superhopeful: I amm interested as well..
to all those trying ribivirin, can we get some feedback on what you have all experienced so far?
soclose. Those "jim humble guys" got my radars yp. I asked them a question about mms2 but suggested I coundt buy it from them and they never emiled me back jus sketchy to me..I just made my own if u scroll back up u can read how
Kathleen and soclose do u know if the treatments ubvi are covered by insurance?
Hi Kathleen and Soclose,
Can you both tell me what type of HSV you have? I have HSV1 and wondering if the UBVI treatment will work for HSV1??
Kathleen - Could you please let me know your email?
Thanks guys and have a great weekend :)
To everyone else, keep praying and I know we will be cured soon :) Take care
Love Oz
1marie : I'm sorry I don't know about the insurance...
Oz : I have both. I contracted hsv1 but I have both of the viruses in me...
fat harold: I did 800mg of ribavirin a day for two weeks to no effect. I even had an ob when I started and it did not subside any faster. I have used countless alt meds and the only thing that has ever worked is tea tree oil.
Soclose, I am really thrilled you are getting UVBI's!!! Did you receive my email regarding UVBI and ozone? To answer your questions, I have an ozone generator I bought from Saul Pressman's business, Plasmafire, years ago. I ozone my vagina, sometimes drink ozonated water, sometimes do cupping at the base of my spine with a funnel. I don't do autohemotherapy with it.
How long did it take your alt doc to help cure that women with herpes? How many treatments did she get from your doc? How are your treatments to be spaced out? What happens if you run low on money, is it okay to space them out more than seven weeks? Personally, I am running low on cash. I am a little worried. I don't think I'll be able to get my third treatment until the end of October.
I get the same kind of UVBI that you are getting, they take about 60 cc's of blood and irradiate it, then return it to my body. It costs about $200 for UVBI + Vitamin C IV therapy and I get both in one session, first UVBI for 15 minutes, then Vitamin C IV for about 45 minutes or so.
Soclose, I highly recommend that you get Vitamin C IV's in tandem with your UVBI treatments. Ask your doc what s/he thinks about this modality. I know in tandem is a good thing. I just want to help you get the best treatment. The cool thing about UVBI is that with each treatment, it builds on the previous one. It builds up your immune system. That is why I am wondering how to space them out, with limited income. What do you think?
I also wrote that I don't think MMS works for this virus. Just my opinion, don't take it personally. I will NEVER do MMS again. I actually think it might work for other conditions, but not herpes. I am actually hopeful that it will work for those on this hub, I am waiting waiting always waiting for a good testimonial other than R who used it in tandem with something else.
Oz: I have HSV II. I've had it for about four years now. *Gasp* I am hoping to eradicate it with UVBI + VItamin C IV's. I think I'll get 10+ treatments, then test. My alt doc has helped cure a lot of people with this virus. They have tested negative after these treatments, I know everyone is different and it might take me longer than 10 treatments.
I know that Vitamin C is a FANTASTIC anti-viral. Do research on the internet and figure it out. Take responsibility for your own health. For example: someone close to me has a cold right now and I have been exposed to this person, but have not gotten sick. Each Vitamin C IV I get is about 20 grams (that's 20,000 millligrams) and I feel good. It PUMPS up your immune system and so do the UVBI's. This has got to work! I am also taking liposome concentrated Vitamin C orally. I megadose on it and feel great. I also have more energy.
My email address is minajazz67@yahoo.com anyone is welcome to email me and I will help with the limited knowledge that I have. I really want everyone on this hub to get cured and I think there is more than one cure. I think UVBI and Vit C is right for me. I have finally found my cure. I do hope MMS works, but it makes me nauseated and I just could not handle it.
I do think Sebi works, but I could not handle the diet. I like meat too much. I'm terrible, I know! LOL! Also, Sebi's office told me that it would take up to a year to get cured. I cannot afford their treatment plan. With UVBI and Vit C IV's I know I can be cured THIS YEAR!
Anyway, I hope everyone is having a fabulous weekend! :)
Oz: Yes, I think UVBI and Vitamin C IV's will work with HSV I. It is a virus and so it goes...
1marie: I am not sure how to answer your question. You will have to check with your potential alt doc and your insurance. My bet? I bet it is difficult to get this treatment paid by your insurance because it is alternative health therapy. I think insurance will cover the treatment DEPENDING on the state in which you live and DEPENDING on your doctor and DEPENDING on your insurance. Bio-oxidative therapies such as ozone and UVBI are illegal in some states. Do you live in the USA? I know that Soclose does not live in the USA and it is easier perhaps for him to find an alt doc. I live in a state that does not make these therapies illegal. When I was paying, they asked if I have insurance and they were going to file it for me, so my alt doc does at least try to help people with insurance. Personally, I don't have insurance and I am unemployed. It is a very bad combo. I had to pay out of pocket. Good luck.
I will be curious to see how these UVBI treatments end up.... I do not want to be negative but I will be very surprised if it cures HSV for the simple fact that HSV is in the nerves and UVBI is a blood cleansing procedure.... HSV is not in the blood, only HSV antibodies are in the blood.
I am would like to know how the alt doctors who are giving these treatments can explain HOW it cures HSV at the nerve level? Have they mentioned anything about that?
UBVI is a thoroughly tested, proven therapy that uses the healing power of light to perform almost miraculous cures. This remarkable treatment works its incredible cures by stimulating the body's OWN immune responses. That is why it cures so many ailments-and why it has been especially effective against AIDS.
There's a book called Into The Light by William Campbell Douglass that I just bought. It's a good resource for UVBI.
Looks like having a good immune system is key to getting cured.
Hope this helps. :) It's always good to question everything. But I am very hopeful this will work for me.
Soclose: I've tried tons of therapies (including Resolve and it's booster series). Nothing has given me the permanent cure yet.
I'm on my 2nd day of Ribavirin (400 mg / twice per day for 10 days). When I get my next OB I will repeat the process. So far, the side effects that I notice are lots of peeing and being thirsty, and low grade headaches. I lost the link to where I got the stuff, but it was shipped from India. I bought it under the name Copegus, but when it arrived, all of the capsules are labeled "Ribavirin."
Super
soclose, no I am in the US and i will be chareged an arm and a leg for those treatments for sure....but i will look into it..
just taking something now see what happens....? will keep you guys posted
Thanks L's and G's. I've just learned something else of use. I haven't really heard of UVB until recently.
Soclose: Thanks for the link buddy.
Tryin 2 b - : You're welcome. I have another link for us all.
Tryin 2 b - , Kim and all : here is the youtube link for the UVBI treatment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-DIv5t0ZmA
Right to this video you can find related videos.
With love to all...
Soclose: Did you see my previous post with questions for you? Thanks in advance for answering. Did you ever get my email? :)
Great link!
Kathleen : No I haven't received a new mail from you.
I'll se the doc tomorrow and ask him about your questions. For the vitamin c IVs I'd like to have them of course. But I take mms every houR so I shouldn't do vit c IVs right now. MMS guys say you should watch your vit c consuming while you take it. After finishing mms I'll do that if neccessary...
I hope there won't be any need :)
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Thanks again for bringing UVBI onto the table.
With love
The research is there! It is just a matter of time, money, and motivation.....
Oz. I have hsv-I. Too early to tell what will work and what will not. What has your experience been?
Great Links!! I am very interested in these therapies..The H202 water made my teeth hurt..but UVBI sounds promising..
TIME2FLY: Is this underway at some university or is it one of the experiments we have heard about.
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00921934?ter They are doing clinical trials on the effects of a vitamin C IV on viruses in Germany. They are mostly concerned about herpes zoster though.
This is a company trying to get funding and investors to produce the research they have. They are in the start up stages. Here is the link to their profile:
This is something that seems a little wacky, but it has been growing in popularity and people ARE really saying it works.
but could that therapy get into the nerve cells?
BHT kills lipod virus's but it doesnt seem to get into the nerve cells to fully do its job.
I got an OB today but am using the tcm vs-c and the OB died off by the end of the day.
Still it did form one tiny blister.
Has anyone been cured before on this site?
jackbig: No
Captain Cloud: I don't think that we will ever eliminate the virus from our body. Everything in the clinical pipeline is attempting to make the body so toxic to herpes that it never comes out. No symptoms,no shedding, no worries. I was talking to a doctor friend of mine and he said that in ten years cancer will be a chronic disease as opposed to life threatening . Herpes treatments will start with nanoparticles and end with a therapeutic vaccines. Everyone, please stop drinking pool cleaner.
jackbig : R on this hub or another hub has cured himself with mms and medavir.
Hi everybody. Have any of you used colloidal silver before ? HoW ?
9 am...i check my email....check the hub...nothing new on the hub, and thats the highlight of my day.
looks like i am off to germany!!! I got accepted in those clinical trials for the C IV !!!!!
Cool beans fat-harold! Good luck! Keep us posted please!
Fat: Wow! Could you please give us some more info on those trials and when they are???
Thanks
Hey Harold just wondering how long each day and for how many weeks, months, you zapped for. Sucks about the RIFE.
To ALL1 I found this info here and the product that supports it check it out, its supposed to reduce the transmission to partners!
There are indications that a carrageenan-based gel may offer some protection against HSV-2 transmission by binding to the receptors on the herpes virus thus preventing the virus from binding to cells. Research has shown that a carrageenan-based gel effectively prevented HSV-2 infection at a rate of 85% in a mouse model."Microbicides". Population Council. 2007-08-23. http://www.popcouncil.org/microbicides/index.html. Retrieved 2007-09-05. Some personal and condom lubricants are already made with carrageenan, and several of these products (such as Divine) were found to be potent HPV inhibitors in the study (though others that listed carrageenan in their ingredients were not).[3] See Herpes simplex: Polysaccharides
Kathleen, Ok, I am still looking for a doctor in Houston that does the UVBI treatments. Please do not leave this hub because I need to talk to you about this more. I hope you are doing well and I pray you will be cured. You are so inspiring to be going down this path. I hope this is the cure.
Ava
Fat - I need to know more about the clinical trial you were accepted in. Can you tell me more. Lucky you!
Fat,
Are they still taking applicants for the clinical trials??
ava , all you can do is call them and see what they say.
I will be talking with them again as I need to see how many times i have to go.
But my family is german and we have some people there. They were concerned with me traveling back and forth but I will just move out there for the whole thing if needed.
But I wonder if this C thing just boosts your immune system. If so then its not a cure. The immune cannot get to it in its latent stage.
I will also be talking to the people from florida and see if there is any way we can somehow speed up the trials of the thing they discovered.
Why go to germany when you can do the vitamin C iv's right here?????
I emailed resolve that I have my OBs back and they tried to sell me another booster round - this time for $40. I told them that I no longer have the faith in their product and declined. I want to believe in them, but have to use my common sense too.
Fat, let me know how you make out with the Florida....have you found a doctor in Houston yet? That would be optimal.
For new hubbers/lurkers - Just some info on the herpes virus.
positiveenergies
ava- you mean germany? I am not in florida, in fact i hate that white trash state.
anyways, i am talking to a dr. in new mexico who does what the place in gernamy does. i will have more info in about an hour and will post.
i can call you if you want
Hi Kathleen/Soclose,
Could you please ask your doctors if there are any doctors in Australia that do the UVBI treatments??
Does anyone else know on the Hub apart from Kathleen and Soclose if anyone does the UVBI treatments in Australia, preferably in Perth Western Australia??
Take care everyone :)
Love Oz
not sure how treating the blood with uv will do it. only because it hides in the nerves not the blood.
i have to be the biggest idiot of all time.
i was a bit confused and thought i was calling this place that does vit c iv's but it was my apartment manager.
I told her i had herpes and so forth before realizing i called the wrong person.
and now i need to go down to the office and drop off my rent check.
UUGGGGGGG!!!!!!! ARGGGGGGG!!!!!
Fat Harold - Stop being so obsessed with Herpes. This stuff only happens to you.
positiveenergies
http://www.herpes-device-that-works.com/lectroject Has anyone tried this device yet?
Future MD - the LectroJet does NOT work. Don't waste your money.
Thanks Ava!
Fat - find someone in Houston and I will go with you for the UVBI treatments.
Oz hi. Tomorrow I'll have a session so I'll ask if he knows..
Oz: I'll do an internet search for you and let you know.
Ava: I'm not going anywhere. Do I need to help you search for more docs in Houston? Did you contact any on the list I emailed you? Let me know, I'm always happy to help you. :)
Pretty, you are out of your mind if you get the Gardacil vaccine. First of all, it only protects against 4 strains of the HPV virus and there are over 100. Second, it only lassts 6 years at most. Then what? Third, you are putting all that mercury in your body. If you want to read about all the young girls dying from this, go to Mercola.com. And, Spain just withdrew 75,000 doses of Gardacil because of all the girls dying. You would have to be nuts to get that vaccine.
Kathleen,
Can you re-send that list of docs in Houston? I called one of them and lost the list. Thanks.
Hi Ava
I have found a doc here in houston that does them. I am waiting for them to call me back.
His sec said yes they can cure H.
We shall see.
TOTAL KOOK!
I just got off the phone with a Dr. who does the vit c IV's.
"oh yeah well all you need to to think positive happy thoughts and then with the Iv it will go away"
TC was right about alternative Docs. I will give him that.
I am amazed how many people say they can cure herpes, yet there are no raving posts from the people they have cured to be found online claiming they have been cured, even with the anonymous nature of the internet making it safe for them to share their story. And it seems also that if someone was to get wind of this ability to cure, they would look into it and make it available to the masses, but again, nothing but crickets chirping... and here we are continuing to lay out dollar after dollar only to be left disappointed with each "cure" that did not work.
I am on my knees begging to God for one of these things to actually cure several of us so we can stop this sad hunt we are on, but I can't seem to get excited anymore when I hear someone say "yeah, we can cure herpes"..... besides, the proof of any cure is still undetermined on the "HOW" to prove it actually did cure. I was just reading up on hematology and found out that some antibodies will never go away. So even if you were truly cured, depending on your body chemistry, your herpes antibodies may still hang around forever.
I have another email out to the company that was making the BufferGel which is a gel that can be put on creating an invisible condom (male or female) and can last about 10 days. I have not heard back yet, but I am going to email the others in that group. The results from their study was to be published in February 09, but they have not been. At least that would give us safety to be intimate with our loved one.
Time2fly: Interesting... I'd like to learn more about this buffergel.
This is off the wall, but I talked to a Native American person who was telling me about the "old medicine ways." He said their medicine people used to see the body as colorful energy, and could see what it was in your body that was ailing the sick person, go in and grab it, and then throw it back to the universe. Interesting... any "real" shamans out there???
Super.
Fat - so, the Doctor was a kook?? There has to be a doctor her in Houston who does these treatments. I have reached out to 3 of them and none do it. Let's keep looking. Someone has to do it here.
yes he was one of these goofy holistic people. He was careful with his words and I could tell he had no idea of how to help other than suppress the virus.
But I do think the IV's are worth a try.
I found someone here but she charges 250 just for the consultation, which is fine if it works.
She did say she thinks it would remove the virus.
Call 713 522 4037 its called the infusion center of houston.
Are you going to to try the infusion center? I will try it. We have to keep battling this virus. I think it has more value than Resolve and I did that twice and am still positive. I will call tomorrow. Thanks for the tip.
yes give them a call and let us know what they say.
I will do it. I hear the IV's are good for you anyway.
Ya know AVA, in your case since you dont have OB's. You could take one drop of MMS a day and that would prevent any shedding and would not be so bad to take.
Then just get on with your life.
Hi Kathleen & Soclose,
Thanks so much Soclose for speaking with your Doctor for me and Kathleen let me know how you get on with an Internet search on any Doctors that do the UBVI treatment here in Australia, I had a quick look over the net but couldn't find any doctors doing it here :(
If anyone else out there knows of any clinics/doctors doing the UBVI treatment in Australia please let me know, I am really keen to give this a go!!!
Thanks so much and guys keep being positive, we need to believe a Cure is going to happen VERY soon!!
Love OZ
BAD NEWS... just get reply from company that created BufferGel here's what he said ""BufferGel was ineffective at preventing HIV or other STIs. I expect the report to be published in the the next two or three months""
Soooooo, moving forward (again!).
I was thinking back as to what I may had been doing during all the years I was infected but was not getting outbreaks, and the only thing that really stood out to that was different when I began getting the outbreaks was that I had been taking chromium picolinate and about 2000mg vit C everyday. I still take 1000mg vit C everyday, but I stopped taking the chromium picolinate..... I think I will begin again and see what happens!! I just thought of this today! I have not found any links between herpes and chromium picolinate but that doesn't mean it wasn't the thing that helped!?!?!
Time2Fly - You are right. There are not many people on the internet claiming to be cured. As much as I hope that every supplement I take is the silver bullet, I am well aware that herpes is a difficult virus to eradicate. Therefore, I am also very focused on going about my life as best and as happily as I possibly can. This virus is simply not worth putting aside living every minute, every hour and every day of our lives. And that approach seem to be working wonders for me spiritually, physically and emotionally.
Take care and good luck on your search for the cure.
positiveenergies
On Fats behalf, I am here to reiterate his point that Alternative doctors are uninformed, ineffective, sneaky and or corrupt, maybe not personally corrupt but corrupted by the medicine they represent.
Alternative Medicine is now controlled by the same people who control Western Medicine. To look to Alternative medicine for answers is as foolish as looking into Western Medicine for answers about diseases and disease research.
In reality Alternative Medicine is much more of a scam than Western Medicine because at least a person with trauma from an accident or other physical issue can seek a wholesome and honest form of trauma medicine despite the corruption of Western Medicines corruption when it comes to diseases and pathogens.
I doubt you will find an Alternative doctor who can change their tire they are so useless. If they were trained to think, they would recognize their uselessness and then become useful though it would mean leaving the states or removing their title as doctor. Doctors are not allowed to use cures.
Cures are not medicine. Many years ago Alternative Medicine took advantage of cures, now Western Medicine sees to it that Alternative Medicine does not contradict it.
truecures.com
Ok. Who let TC out of his cage?
True Cures - I specifically remember you telling someone on this hub to go about life thinking nice, pretty, little thoughts to keep the vicious outbreaks away. And you did that for quite a while.
Today you also stated that --- "I am here to reiterate his poit that Alternative doctors are uninformed, ineffective, sneaky and or corrupt, maybe not personally corrupt but corrupted by the medicine they represent."
Why TC, that's sounds like a very accurate description of you. You have proven to be truly lacking in knowledge (UNIFORMED). I mean you don't even know what a virus is? You are also INEFFECTIVE. You have cured no one! You are SNEAKY & DECEPTIVE. You consistently create fake testimonials and manipulate the truth as need be. And you are CORRUPT!
Now, once again you have changed your tune? Do you ever tell the truth? Are the parasites or fungus in your brain responsible for your narcissitic disorder?
Now, Go back to Never Never Land! Or did the authorities there kick you out! You keep getting kicked out of so many hubs. What a shame!
Now go away, little booger! Or come over to Mama's Love Hub for BAD little Boogers!
positiveenergies
I will not fight with you here Little Booger! Come home to Mama!
OZ: http://www.healthinforum.org/Australia-country-32- check out this link for Australia alt docs. Go to the bottom of the screen to click "Next"
I am not sure where you live in Australia, so you might search through this website yourself. If you think one of these alt docs might do bio-oxidative therapies/POT/Photoluminescence/Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation and Vitamin C IV's, then call them and ask, or ask them who they can refer you to. Good luck!
This is incredible. My boyfriend has been sick for a week now and I caught it Monday, but yesterday morning I got 20 grams of Vitamin C in an IV and today I am well! Hooray! It really is amazing stuff. A very strong anti-viral.
So does anyone know where I can buy some Medavir to help Soclose? Anyone? Thanks in advance!
Oz: there's a 1DOThtml after the dash. Make sense? Sorry it's hard to post a link. Email me if you can't get it.
Can anyone tell me the best cure so far?
Time2Fly - I came across some research that says Chromium Pico is a trace minerals. I take some trace minerals everday with my other supplements and I can usually feel the difference. Maybe you are lacking some trace minerals.
This is my protocol and I really feel great. Lysine, lecithin, trace minerals, VSC-TCM, garlic, iron, CoQ 10, pycnogenol, St. John's Wort and olive leaf. And I do take Valtrex to prevent replication.
The virus travel along the nerves and then multiply on the surface of the skin and then you get outbreaks. Therefore in order to reduce outbreaks you really need to work on your nerves. St. John's Wort is absolutely great for that. Also, try to reduce stress in your life.
Some of these herbs work great together like the CoQ 10 and pycngenol, and the VSC -TCM and olive leaf. The CoQ 10 and Pycngenol are anti-oxidants and the VSC-TCM and olive leaf are antiviral and stops the replication of the virus. Even though, I don't need it - I still take valtrex. I am trying to eradicate the virus and do not want it to replicate at all. I want to stop all replication as much as I can.
You have to work on your immune system to feel better. Remember Herpes is a journey and not everything happens overnight. But you can get there. Give yourself ample time to see improvements in your health and be patience. That was the hardest lesson for me - patience.
Also, try to forgive the person who gave this virus to you. Just know that person is suffering too. You can win this! I know I am! I have already written my victory speech and I read it always.
positiveenergies
Resolve has cured no one. Some people on this hub have been taking Resolve for over a year and NO One has been cured! These people come on the hub to get sales. Don't be taken in!
http://hubpages.com/hub/True-Cures---Con-Man--Frau
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
True Cures is a con! Resolve is a con!
positiveenergies
Fat - the infusionclinic has never done IV Vitamin C treatments for HSV and they do not have the UBVI light...so, they did not sound interested in my business.
Thanks soclose and kathleen
Ava- I got the gardasil shot a couple times and I don't think I will do it again..the last time I got my shot I could actually feel the stuff speading through my arm then when I went to put on my coat my arm wouldn't move....seriouusly I sorta screamed I actually had to use my other arm to pull the limp arm through my coat that was scary
1marie - Gardacil as well as all other vaccines are poison.
AVA
well i spoke to someone yesterday here that said it would cure H. Maybe it was another clinic then.
Yesterday was a bit hectic, had the biggest sale of all time come through.
I will search again and find the place.
Thanks. Please find the place and tell me....I want to get started right away. Thanks for replying.
I don't think you need to go all the way to Germany if someone here performs those treatments.
Congratulations on your big sale...especially in this bad economy. That is always motivating....
(Previous post by AVA, not fat. I accidentally typed his name)
Thanks. Please find the place and tell me....I want to get started right away. Thanks for replying.
I don't think you need to go all the way to Germany if someone here performs those treatments.
Congratulations on your big sale...especially in this bad economy. That is always motivating....
Fat - I spoke with Tanya Barnes at Longevity Houston. She said they have not used high dose Vit C IV for the eradication of HSV. And, they do NOT offer UVBI treatments. This was at longevityhouston.com.
When you find the link, give me the phone number and the details. Off to bed...good night.
Sorry, that was me again...I typed your name by mistake.
There's some other alternative treatment that I've come across and just wondering if anyone has tried this. Such as http://www.immunics.org/00open/contents/the_cure_s or http://www.goodbyeherpes.com/testimonials[1].html . Sounds promising but then again, alot of hoax out there just wanted to know if anyone had experience this.
Good luck everyone and hope we'll find a cure soon!
I'm planning a trip to China sometime this or next month to see a healer which I hope would help. Willing to try anything right now.
JackBig - Dude, that stuff does not work at all. 14 of us had it done in NY and we all still have herpes.
Maybe it works on cars - lol! Check out this clip.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-371829457
positiveenergies
JackBig - Also check out this one
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-371829457
positveenergies
DENNI......WHERE THE **** ARE YOU???!!!
Kathleen - Thankyou so much for posting that link!!! Your the best :) I will look at it closely tomorrow and a big thankyou again!!
Love Oz
I miss you too fat...been busy with work..Find us a DR that does the IV H202 or UVBI..go on now, you have work to do..
Hey people another cure ! ! ! :)
KeeperOfTheFaith says:
9 hours ago
okay, here's the scoop: I just got my blood work back... AND as I suspected, It was NEGATIVE for all STD's!!! :-) When I was tested, I never told the nurse that I had HSV 2, I just said I wanted to be tested for ALL STD's to make absolutely sure I was clean of everything. Now, I know that western blood tests aren't always 100% accurate... so I'm not jumping for joy completely yet, but I'm convinced even more that I have kicked this shit out of my body. And I plan to go on with my life as if I am cured. I'm putting a lot of stock into positive thinking and as I said before, I feel or see no signs or symptoms of H and haven't for 8 moths! So that's it for me! I cannot say for sure if this will work for you though. I had fairly low HSV count to begin with and I was only infected for about 4 or 5 months before I started taking anything.
So here's the dosage I took everyday for six weeks:
Lecithin: 2 x 1200mg per day (sorry Sociose, I only took 2400mg a day but I'm sure if you take 3000mg it could only help.
Lysine: 2 x 500mg per day.
Acyclovir: 2 x 200mg per day.
MedAvir: I applied only to OB's (when present) 3 times a day.
Pretty cheap and easy stuff to get and take. No harmful side effects... I felts nothing unusual when I was on these meds.
I really wish you all the best in finding a cure! I know you will! If my situation changes, I'll be back to let you know... Take care and God bless!
WE'LL ALL DO IT ! ! !
soclose - Did you have the igg test too? And was this negative too? Congratulations on your success.
Soclose
How many uvbi and ozone treatments did you get? Did you take mms2 and mms for 3 weeks also? how much is acycolvir and any advise on where to get it?
Thanks and congrats
Soclose....... is it Keeper of the Faith that is cured or you?.........
I started taking 2000 mg of lysine a day starting yesterday, just to see what it does.
Apparently SoClose is stating that Keeper of the Faith is cured.
Congratulations Keeper of the Faith!
Just like I suspected - our immune system needs to be optimize so we can be cured.
positiveenergies
1Marie - Acyclovir is an anti-viral and is sold as Zovirax. Valtrex is another anti-viral and contains valaycclovir hydrochloride. Both drugs prevent replication of the herpes virus. Your doctor can prescribe these for you.
positiveenergies
The immune does not deal with the nerve ganglia where it hides.
It doesnt matter how good your immune system is it wont matter.
Thanks posenergies I do have a percriptionbi never take it I refilled it last week but I hate picking it up because so many kids work there that are around my age and younger sometimes they try to have conversations with me..really uncomfortable and I am nervous thay will start to recognize me or tell their friends about me..I'm thinking of changing my pharmacy to a place where older people work and are not concerened about me....my percrition is 30 500mg valtrex......so 2 acyclovir a day would be the same as
So 2 200mg acyclovir would be the same as 1 500mg valtrex? Same amount of antivirals I'm trying to copy keeperoffaith
SoClose: Congrats on your success! How often were your OBs before your combo treatment???
Thanks,
Super
Hey all : Positiveenergies is right! It's not me being cured it is KeeperOfTheFaith. She is on another hub which is :
http://hubpages.com/hub/Herpes-Resolve-Illness
I just wanted to share and break the curse that it was uncurable ! ! ! We'll all be the next cures :)
With love...
Positiveenergies, please do me a favor next time you have a thought let it go. Your attempt to suggest I am inconsistent is weak at best and if you posted links to my hubs or website you wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. Nonetheless, I appreciate the opportunity to explain True Cures as it pertains to curing herpes and more importantly fungus. You are very kind to open the ball for me. Canada25 this is for you too.
Because you know nothing of cures Positiveenergies and seem to be here mostly pushing drugs and other products while telling people what is and what isn’t a scam I will take a moment to correct you.
PE blurts….. True Cures - I specifically remember you telling someone on this hub to go about life thinking nice, pretty, little thoughts to keep the vicious outbreaks away. And you did that for quite a while.
TC replies…. Loose the drama, I said avoid stress to prevent being switched which if successful will indeed prevent ANY VIRAL ATTACK. If one is suffering from a viral attack, shedding the stress will allow a viral OB to end and heal.
Of course VIRAL ATTACKS are not the issue and I am guessing you knew this before I learned of it. Because you yourself report no issues with OBs yet here you are on hub pages making sure everyone gets an earful of your council, I am going to assume you are here to mislead people away from the truth.
You know as well as I do that my hubs share the truth about herpes and fungus. Over 200 people are completely OB free after seeing me. You saw me and you are even OB free. The 10 or 20 people still itching and scratching still have fungi and Candida has nothing to do with their itching and scratching. For those of you wondering what the heck I am talking about, see my hubs. PE knows exactly what I am talking about. She will not dispute my claims either because her attempt to dispute my claims will only expose my claims ultimately exposing the truth. Instead she will misquote and misinform you with causal insults and personal attacks.
PE blurts….. Today you also stated that --- "I am here to reiterate his poit that Alternative doctors are uninformed, ineffective, sneaky and or corrupt, maybe not personally corrupt but corrupted by the medicine they represent."
Why TC, that's sounds like a very accurate description of you. You have proven to be truly lacking in knowledge (UNIFORMED). I mean you don't even know what a virus is? You are also INEFFECTIVE. You have cured no one! You are SNEAKY & DECEPTIVE. You consistently create fake testimonials and manipulate the truth as need be. And you are CORRUPT!
TC replies……PE, you were one of my testimonies and you knew most of the others long before I was a member of hub pages. Why are you crying, I deleted all the testimonies from your old pals and buddies long ago and now do not rely on any testimonies. I rely on people’s common sense which by the way is where I lose Canada25.
I still have never charged or billed anyone. I still guarantee a cure and I can still prove every word I say and I challenge you or anyone to prove otherwise. 200 people are completely free of OBs to say the least. 300 people are completely parasite and virus free. That’s right every person I have seen is cured of HSV. Only a few need follow ups to eliminate the different types of fungus causing their OBs.
As for the rest of your post you freaked me out a bit. You are really weird. Anyway, make sure you understand that I claim that True Cures cures all HSV and make dang sure you contact the FDA again and let them know. Your little hub is as insignificant as mine. Until I can get the FDA involved or you to get off your butt and make something happen you and I are just spinning our wheels. I will do anything to get the FDA involved. It’s not going to happen. As long as what I say is the truth the FDA and AMA are going to ignore me.
Some of you have asked the best means to cure HSV. There is only one answer and that is True Cures and True Cures has very little to do with me. I may have discovered the means to take advantage of cures but it is up to you to cure yourself of HSV. There are no products or gadgets to eliminate HSV and HSV does not cause OBs outside of a possible original outbreak. This means the OB you are having now is caused by fungus not herpes. PE does not want you to know this and that is why PE is here on these hubs. She is not looking.
http://hubpages.com/hub/TrueCures There are links to all my other hubs at the bottom, Herpes Testing being of great importance.
PE, it is time you woke up. David Flowers is right. He's cured 100's of people of 1000's of deseases. It's all so very clear to me now. Only people who are on these blogs have not been cured. Everyone else has been! That's the secret to being cured!!! If you don't blog you get cured... It simply must be so... Because Mr Flowers, NO ONE ON THIS OR ANY OTHER BLOG HAS BEEN CURED OF ANYTHING BY YOU OR TRUE CURES. PERIOD!
Okay, here's the scoop: I just got my blood work back... AND as I suspected, It was NEGATIVE for all STD's!!! :-) When I was tested, I never told the nurse that I had HSV 2, I just said I wanted to be tested for ALL STD's (especially herpes) to make absolutely sure I was clean of everything. Now, I know that western blood tests aren't always 100% accurate... so I'm not jumping for joy completely yet, but I'm convinced even more that I have kicked this shit out of my body. And I plan to go on with my life as if I am cured. I'm putting a lot of stock into positive thinking and as I said before, I feel or see no signs or symptoms of H and haven't for 8 moths! So that's it for me! I cannot say for sure if this will work for you though. I had a fairly low HSV count to begin with and I was only infected for about 4 or 5 months before I started taking anything. I would say it's worth a try.
So here's what I did and the dosage I took everyday for six weeks:
Lecithin: 2 x 1200mg per day (sorry Sociose, I only took 2400mg a day but I'm sure if you take 3000mg it could only help.
Lysine: 2 x 500mg per day.
Acyclovir: 2 x 200mg per day.
MedAvir: I applied only to OB's (when present) 3 times a day.
Pretty cheap and easy stuff to get and take. No harmful side effects... I felt nothing unusual when I was on these meds.
I really wish you all the best in finding a cure! I know you will! If my situation changes, I'll be back to let you know... Take care and God bless!
PS... TrueCures, you are an idiot!
just checking in...i have another OB ...it started 2 days ago so I am running about one OB a week now...the cycle is back...OB OB OB OB OB OB OB..i dont think i will ever be cured...its just not in the cards for me...uuugggh
I am taking things but will only post if i ever get cured as to what i am taking..but as of today i have another OB so there you go...i still have herpes...just like they say on TV its for life
Hey Fat
Here's a potential protocol.
Minimal initial intake lab tests before you arrive: CBC with diff, CMP, G6PD
Intake physician visit, one hour. $240 + tax
Frequency Specific Microcurrent $60/hour x 6 sessions ($360 + tax) if you stay 2 weeks or 9 sessions ($540 + tax) if you stay 3 weeks.
Vitamin C IV drips $120 each + tax. We could do 4-6 of them depending if you stay 2 or 3 weeks.
Outtake physician visit before leaving 30 minutes. $120 + tax
Nutritional supplements, visits with other practitioners here and additional visits with me would have additional charges.
If this sounds good, please give me an address and I'll send you a lab slip for the few basic things I'll need and we can set up all the needed appointments. Russ
If Russ offers a no questions guarantee meaning he is willing to prove it, it might work. If he doesn't offer this simple reassurance you know he is just an alternative doctor trying to suck you dry like the rest of medicine. I don’t think he will offer any guarantee. Besides all you need to focus on is eliminating fungi and all your tingles and twinges will go away if you do not have permanent damage.
You know there has still only been a couple of people who have seen me who have tested to see if they test negative. Most accept what I say and accept the fact that they are cured because they have no more signs or symptoms. I would love to see them all test to see how often a cured person will test negative with an IgG blood test.
truecures.com
Fat - who is this Russ? Is he a doctor in Houston? I would be willing to try his protocol. Thanks.
True Cures - Sorry, I do NOT respond to the ramblings of a mad man. And you are quite mad!!!!!
I also respect Ashtree and will NOT fight with you here. The only thing I have to say is this "Where are the 100's you have cured?
Now, I really do need to get my automobile checked for fungus and parasites. The brakes are not working right! I wonder if it needs some Lotrimin on the left axle???!!
positiveenergies
New Hubbers/Lurkers - Before you are tempted to contact True Cures - just read the postings on this hub.
http://hubpages.com/hub/True-Cures---Con-Man--Frau
Also, he will expose your identity on the internet in order to blackmail you into saying you are cured. He still owes me a $100 - so much for that.
Just read the hub and you will see what and who you are dealing with.
positiveenergies
To All:
I have been tuning in to this hub for some time (and occasionally have made comments). I have looked at, and, in many cases, checked out many of the hot topics (from Resolve to "True Cures").
Of all the various approaches mentioned and discussed on this hub however, there is only ONE approach that I believe has SIGNIFICANT merit in regard to treatment of Herpes. Interestingly though it has been discussed very little--mostly in reference to a product idenified as "Avirol". Avirol is just a brand name of tablets of "Humic Acid".
Humic acid binds with viruses in the body and keeps them from replicating, and, since a free virus only lives for 36 hours, after that period the virus and the viral effects will be gone. Now, this does not eliminate the dormant hiddent herpes viruses, but it virtually eliminates the effects of the manifestation of the free viruses on the individual. I can't say however that is it absolutely prevents spreading the virus to someone else.
The additional benefit is that it works on all viruses so it also prevents (taken as a daily background dosage) or (taken after the fact, within 36 hours) eliminates the effects of colds or flu's.
Yes, I have seen clinical results.
The originating source of this humic acid is Dr. Richard Laub, a prominent Biochemist here in the USA. I have personlly talked to Dr. Laub on several occasions and will be meeting with him on Oct. 24. I am devoting time to this particular approach because I truly believe that this nutritional sustance is major world impacting and is valuable globally especially with the latest (but certainly not the last) scare regarding flu virus.
Avirol is one source of Dr. Laub Humic Acid; it is not the only source or the least expensive.
If you would like research information (I give my e-mail address and I will e-mail the research info) and other general information, I invite you to go to my website: www.fromdrc.com.
Dr. C
Kim - Sorry to hear that you have another outbreak. Hang in there. Something tells me that before the year is up - we will find the cure.
I will be adding something new to my protocol on Wednesday. But first, I will test on Tuesday to see exactly where I am. The last time I tested my count was really high and I need to establish a baseline now before I incorporate this product. I will use the product for 1 month and test again. This way we have a good scientific way to access the product. If the product works, I will report on the hub. But I don't want us all running in different directions. I will be the lab rat on this one. We will beat this.
positiveenergies
Hey Kim... well that sucks! Look forward not back. We've come too far to quit now. (Maybe you need om Dr. Scholls for fungas! sorry... but if we don;t laugh we've got nothing.)
KOF: Where would I find Acyclovir and MedAvir? a health food store?
PE: You certainly take the wind out of anything I'd like to add! Well said!
canada25, thank you so much for making me laugh...thats a good one!
posenergie4s, I thought I would be cured in Jan2009 its Oct and this year alone I have had over 60 OB I dont know how many i just know I stopped counting a while ago this year but i stopped counting at 60 and that was months ago...soooooo urggh
drc, i just saw that web site today avirol...how about that..i just saw it in deperation today looking for another cure....but is it a cure or supressant??
Canada25 - Valtrex and other anti-virals are prescription drugs. I take it daily to prevent any more replication of the virus. My thinking is "let me try to eliminate the current viral load and not have the virus replicating in more and more of my cells"
You may also be able to resume an intimate life with the anti-virals. Speak with your medical doctor about this.
Kim - Avirol is NOT a cure. It is simply a good supplement.
positiveenergies
AVA
No he is in New Mexico.
I am thinking of going there for a few weeks and doing it but only out of desperation. He says that 6 people have done this and no one has OB's since.
I could drive my new jeep and have fun off roading a but.
What was your outcome with the dr. in florida?
Avirol is a scam! Don't waste your money by paying mind to dr c, tc, or resolve. All scams. Besides Dr C you"re not a real md are you?
PS I ALREADY NOW THE ANSWER.
1marie: I don't know where you are but the Hippa law makes it illegal to give any of your medical info to anyone without written consent from you. Even those kids who work in that pharmacy. I used to take valtrex but I stopped. I want to cure this h I have. I don't want to just hold it back...I want it gone. If you choose to keep using it then why not ask your dr to write you a prescription for 1 gram. You can always stretch them out by cutting them in half. That's what I did. I was the same price for me. Check it out.
Hey all : Do valtrex and acyclovir do the same thing ? I don't want to suppress this virus in me I want to get rid of it. But keeperofthefaith is cured using acyclovir 2 x 200mg a day. Do you suggest we should use it ? Any thoughts ?
With love...
"BILL" is the hubber formerly known as Scambusta or davecuresall or TC curesall.
Remember I can analyze anyone's typing.
He likes to cause trouble.
When I first ran across this person I said to myself....Dr.Goot you just found the big one!
TV shows, books, fame fortune would all be mine at last. I could make a full time career out of this man.
Check out this link... it's about a new, superior herpes drug...
DR C.
if a drug isnt out yet but we know of the compounds that its made out of, would we be able to replicate it ourselves with a home made lab?
its another scam
all these things that talk of using your immune system to cure it are scams.
the immume could be superman but it doesnt go to the hiding places.
scam scam scam
positiveenergies, thanks i dont want a supressant i want a cure..thanks i thought it was a supressant..
Anonymous .......i am doctor in china.oh that product produce by the authorized hospital..i can ask there directly and i will tell you all if this is real cure as they explained..its interesting things sound like real....any way let me call tomorrow if they sound real cure, i will visit there to know the fact and we all start together,,it should be new things..so any body if you are familiar with that product,,please let me know...thanks
Well, who id going to try the GH Capture?? $275 and 20 days later cured??
they have several docs on their website...
bayern...... that is so great you are right there to look into the GH Capture! I hope you find real answers from people who really know about it.
Thank YOU!
time2fly...keep your head up...every body, this compony is real and its authorized hospital,i know that hospital..i just got sucked looking it...yes, i am so hurry to make a call them,, now its mid night here, i will do it tomorrow and hoping that its true,,i am so exciting...chance 99% true
I checked GH Capture. Tried to order online but they don't serve out of the country I think... The web site doesn't work I think. Anything I try o send ( message online request) I get an error message saying that requested url doesn't exist...
Hey Bayern : Could you please learn if we can order it online from china ? On an English web site if possible.
Thanks...
hey, every body, i made a call to the doctor , its a big hospital and its real,
soclose....yes its net disturbing in china, so it cant work today,,and its new componey,, they cant speak english very well,, dont worry,, i am here,, i can help you,,no english link to order...
To: “Bill” and all
Wow. I’ve been commenting on this hub for over a year and I never claimed to be an “MD” (“real” or any other kind). I’ve made it clear that I am a chiropractor and those that have been tuning in awhile know this. Also, in my last message I gave my website which identifies my profession. I guess this is how you, “Bill”, uncovered this major revelation. Now I know that in the minds of some that being a chiropractor makes me some kind of “less than” or phony doctor. Discount that if you will but I refuse to be labeled or let the accusation lie that I am trying to deceive anyone.
I know that the major focus on this site is the search for a cure. I understand this. I also know that this site has been loaded with those claiming to have a cure or be able to deliver a cure. I have also noticed a number claiming to have been cured.
I have looked at a lot and investigated a lot. Regarding a “cure” I feel that the best hope on the horizon is what’s happening at Duke.
Regarding “Avirol”, please be aware that this name has no meaning. It is a brand name made up by a distributor (Access Nutraceuticals). The product is Humic Acid. I believe it is the BEST there is out there right now. I am investing time and expense finding out all I can about this (I’m traveling across the country to meet with Dr. Laub in about 2 weeks). Now it you, “Bill”, or anyone has objective reason to believe that this is not all that is purported to be, share it with me. I certainly want the truth and I do not want to lead anyone into false hope or spending money needlessly.
I am available through e-mail which you can find on my site:
www.fromdrc.com
ok let me explain what did i talk to them...one chinese doctor name DOCTOR Xing recieved my call but his cant speak english good, so i talked to him in chinese..i asked..give me the fact how can i believe you that it can cure hsv,, in the net all are scam and i have spend alot of money to cure it but i got all are scam..he said,its sold by a establish hospital not by a people and not from a small office,they have cured many people over in china. but just trying to go international through germeny..it comes true,,and come to see our hospital,,i am so surprised,, i am going there after few days,, any body who are interested,, dont be hurry to order right now, let me be sure all things first,, but sound is realy true ,,
Thanks tryin to be
Jimmy humbles reps are not awnsering my emails..this is making me upset I aske a simple question like 3 times and no response,if they do not awnser soon I might end up sending them a email explaining how mad I am..I'm trying to stay calm...
just because I'm not buying they are not responding...
I made my own mms2 pills....and I simply want to know if mms2 will work by itself with out taking mms1 and how many pilss I need to take each day for how many days.....just being calm...
Thanks bayern! You are the best! Keep us posted! And while you are looking into the truth of it, please find out how we would be able to get it in the USA too
1marie: gust guessing but I doubt that JH's people have answers for your questions. They don;t run clinical trials on this stuff. They just put the idea out there. If you're going to give it a try LISTEN to your body. If it says slowe down then slow down. Good luck!
bayren, wow thank you so much for your research..i hope its the cure i will look it up and
drc, thank you for looking into avirol..please keep us informed!
All, this OB is a big one and soooo sooo soooo sooo painful for almost 3 days now and yes I am using the medavir and it has done nothing for it so far...nothing at all...I have applied this medavir on all my last 4 OB and it has done nothing so far...i will continue taking what I am taking and see what happens while researching this new GH thingy
Bayern....thanks for looking out..
Just thinking out loud.....I googled all the names of the Drs. listed, but to no avail..Is it possible that we have imaginary Drs. like Dr. Lala?.... Both resolve and GH use the word "treatment" instead of a cure...they have 90 percental cure rate, and the money is refundable(where is positive ernergy, she lost her religion on that ...lol...lo.). Resolve, American scam based in NZ....GH from China based in Germany.
help i TRIED TO CALL THE gh CAPTURE NUMBER but was not successful...how do I reach them from the us what is the exact number sequencte??
Kim ...you have to have a country code, area code, and the number...
Hell yeah man, the hub is full of positive energy today!!!
Flower Power all the way!!!
everybody...who are interested in GH caopture.please contact with me, i am going to research more,i am close to them, takes just few hours by bus.their web page have problem, so cant send message via webpage to them..you can try to make a call.but do not foget to pute china code +86 cause its in bejing china,and in china very few people speak english, so you would better speaking chinese if you can,,
you can contact me if you have any things to ask,, i can help you indirectly to ask them...i am here for every one as i can if its true,, so all of my friends,, please .. wait.. wait..wait..i will visit there tomorrow...then.i share the real things..
kim....yes..you can type +86 then this number if still couldnt,,and dont type their number`s first 0....,, if still cant tell me...and ask me...to hep you
Le.....no it doesnt base in germeny as i asked them they just trying to establish in germeny, but i didnt ask when, now no there,and if you can trust me, i am going to visit their in real.they said they have a big authorized hospital and they are all in real doctor...and the medicine made in china by a authorized chinese medicine pharmacy,,so we all are tired . but i am also as like you but i am close to here.. and can find the fact. so just wait....wait wait....
I sure hope its not another scam.
Do you have to get it in china or can you get it in germany?
I will go to germany as I am german. I would bring lots back for us all.
Time to fly, where did you find this stuff at?
Check out the pics on their website of active herpes outbreaks!! OMG that one is terrible.
I want a cure as bad as anyone but the website looks scammy just like resolves.
bad grammer, cheap web images.
I hope its the real thing.
Hey you guys
This thing looks really good
Bayern when will you be talking to them?
I'm sorry, I didn't mean resolve I meant to say TC's website.
snuggleslut.....i talked to them via phone, yesterday..but i am going to see the fact tomorrow.....
Fat....as they said it just available in china...but whatever it is not the problem to get it..first thing..we should know the fact that it is another scam or real cure as they explained,, so i am going to visit them tomorrow early..and then we can make a decision how to go on with it...
Bayern
I am interested please let me know how I can order this GH Capture. Still going to continue the UVBI and Vit C treatments for now though. Thanks Bayern! :)
Kathleen...they are just selling in the china via the postal pay service as i asked them yesterday..they are claiming that it is cure..and they have cured many people in china..so i am going to talk to them in real meeting tomorrow .so i just advice you all..wait for my words and let me make sure to know scam or real cure....i am here..and real person..so....we can make a idea to get the product there on your hand..
Kat, how many treatments have you gone through so far?
BAYERN: Thanks for all your hard work..keep us posted..
Kim: Another ob..You win...hands down..Most obs in a year award..lol..Hope you are laughing..
Canada25: What is up?? Have you got the results back yet?
FAT: Where is that DR??
CALI: Where you at??
LEP: WHERE you at chick??
Jessica: What is going on girl??
IBELIEVE: Girlllllllll don't be no stranger...
I think Bayern means Monday when he said tomorrow, he is in a different time-zome....just want to clear that up.
Hi Bayern,
Thanks for all your help so far and trying to do as much research for people on the GH Capture. We all need to know if it's just another scam!
I have HSV 1 Herpes so could you please ask if it cures all types of Herpes?
Could you also ask if it can be posted to Australia as I live in Perth, Western Australia.
Thanks again Bayern and lets all hope that this is the Cure we have all been looking for :)
Take care people and keep praying :)
Love Oz
Bayern hi. We will all be looking forward to hearing the news soon. Thanks a lot for your effort.
With love...
When i read the notes that people have written to Bayern about this GH Capture, i am touched to see how desperate we all are for a cure. I also see how inhumane it is for the likes of TC, and Dave to scam us. We definitely need a hero to rescue us from the talons and shackles of these charlatans..
Lee you took the words right out of my mouth, lets hope our friend in china comes back with good news, instead of the crap those charlatans dish out.
Bayern - Please post your e-mail address.
This hub has certainly changed. There are only a few only hubbers left and because the posts have been deleted - the history have been deleted.
I remember when this hub was really busy and we were all Resolve Krazzy! Here are a list of people that took Resolve and remain UNCURED: PositiveEnergies, Sierra, Grateful, Time2Fly, Leprechaun, Newbie, Tboxer, Cookie, Cali, Yoda, Eve2008, Drew, Miami, Silently Suffering, Fat Harold, Kim, Superhopeful, Denni, Bayern, Ava, Lee, Katie, Jules, IBelieve, and many more. My list is very incomplete but the money we have spent is very real.
Bayern - We have been scammed before with the likes of Resolve and True Cures, so we are depending on you to do a really thorough investigation here. And thanks for being our friend. Do you know if this drug is available in Tokyo? I will be going there in a couple of weeks?
positiveenergies
rc2009: To answer your question, I have had two and a half treatments. I would like to continue and am running low on money, but a kind hearted friend is helping me, and I am helping him as well. :)
Bayern, thank you again for your help! I am really interested in what you research for us with this GH Capture.
Hi Everyone,
I am really looking forward to hearing back from Bayern about the GH Capture potential cure :)
But what does everyone think about KeeperOfTheFaith's treatment?? It Cured KeeperOfTheFaith so is anyone going to try this??
Have a great day all!!
Love Oz
can keeper of the faith please re post your cure?
and Denni what have you been doing all this time?
I just remembered a few more names from the Resolve still uncured list - Love, FaithRN and Fighter. How much money did they make off the people on this hub. Keep in mind that there were also lurkers on the hub who ordered their product. I guess they made $15,000 - $20,000 off us.
Yes, it's definitely time for a CURE!!
The land of the Free and home of the Brave but we are seeking medical cures from other countries because of the power of the big pharmaceutical companies. Makes you go hhmmm??
OZ - I am taking Keeper of the Faith protocol and I know I am not cured as yet. I have been taking it for a few months now. I feel greatly improved but I still have the virus. I guess it has to do with your immune system and the length of time that you have the virus. Keeper had low viral count and was only infected for a few months.
positiveenergies
KeeperOfTheFaith...... you said you only had the virus for several months before curing it with your combination of methods. Are you sure you actually had the virus to begin with? Is it possible you had a false positive reading? Maybe your immune system was able to destroy any virus before it was able to take up permanent residence in your nervous system? OR on the negative side, is it possible your current test is a false negative?
From the history of this forum, those who have been infected for only a few months seem to have been able to become negative through several different products. Those of us who have had the virus for years have not had much success with anything, and some products that have decreased symptoms for some, have increased symptoms for others, while yet others have seen no changes one way or the other after trying everything.
For the first time in a year, I have a glimmer of hope again with bayern and this GH Capture. If we have not hope, we have nothing. I hate the feeling that comes with the crash of realizing the "cure" was not really a cure, but we still keep looking because we have to!!
we are so blessed that bayern is so close to this current hope and can check its truth out in person, up close and personal!! I kept having dreams that the cure was coming from China but I never thought this dream would show up here on this site! We just need to allow bayern to check this out, and then we can figure out what we need to do next!!!
i simply cant wait to get the news back from bayern.
fat I take lecithin protocol and zinc daily..no obs in a while
positiveenergies dont forget me lol, still here still watching, still waiting,[ big pharma] i,ll sum them up for you . MONEY MONEY MONEY
well every one..i got so late to sleep because i went to bar to night..i am gonna off to the bed right now its 2am here, i will get up at 8 am tomorrow and will move to Beijing then i will post here tomorrow night i mean about 20 hours later from right now. it is my email. who are interested ,you can email me and i also can leave my mobile number in email then every one can call me if you like,, i am real such a kind person.god promise if it`s true i can help to you every one from here,...... my email madhabg100@yahoo.com
Hey guys. Just want to wish bayern goodluck.
POSenergies - I'm with you all the way !
Good luck Bayern!
Well, one stone that is yet to be overturned is Ribavirin. None of us here has used the Protocol as listed on the "Totallycool.net" site. I'm doing the protocol now... today is the last day of round 1 for me. I'm waiting for my next OB to start round two. So far, my experience is that the drug has totally pissed off the virus. The only other protocal that came even close to waking up this virus is H2O2 therapy. It took about 1 1/2 months to piss off the virus with H2O2 therapy as it took Ribavirin to do in 7 days. When the virus gets desparate in my body I have a terribly OB in one place... about a few inches above my genital area in the pubic hair and my glands to the right and left get a little pain. Ribavirin is definitely very potent and powerful. But we'll just have to wait for the end results to see if it is the PERMANENT cure (no more OBs).
Oh yeah, one more interesting thing about Ribavirin that is unique to all other therapes I've tried... some of the blisters from the OB above my genital area turned to a "solid" puss instead of the clear liquid that is normally released. Could this mean that the virus is being killed as it is being released??? I just don't know, but I found it very interesting.
Hey Super, did the OB clear up faster with Ribavirin?
Bayern: Thank you for all of your information. You truly seem like a beautiful person. You are so far away but I wish I could just reach out and hug you. I know we're just about in the same boat of trying to be cured. My way of saying thank you. Have a safe trip and I can't wait to hear back from you.
1marie: Your welcome. I just stopped taking mms1 to take vit c and loads of it. I was taking mms1 at 15 drops twice perday and I caught a cold so I'm trying to get rid of it. I thought mms was supposed to help with that. humh! I do aggree with canada25 though... listen to your body. It will not steer you wrong.
Soclose: How are you? When I first started on valtrex my dr. told me that valtrex is much stronger then acyclovir. Acyclovir is just much cheaper. It's about all I know about the two.
To All: I do have a ?... Why is the GH Capture w/s in english? It seems like it's targeting those of us who speak english and establishing a base in Germany. I'm not saying/I'm just saying. I am interested though. And upon reading I couldn't really read all of it due to the poor language. It felt like my brain was scra-scra scratched and my right eye was pulsating. With that said...if I were to put out a new w/s for a product anywhere; you had better bet your multi-colored asses that I would make sure that I got the best designers to get it right. From language to pictures to text. Especially, if I had the backing of a huge hospital and a great product. Now, I'm the type of person that always straddle the line. My glass is half full and half empty. I'm am balanced. I just want to know if it will work or not. If not I'll just move on until I get something that works. Plus the price tag. It seems like a corporation at work all over again. I know that we don't like big pharma. I really don't but can we actually trust any of these big corporations? I know this is supposed to be a hospital but um uhhh what is a hospital but a big what?........cmon now say it with me now CORPORATION. Now how bout dat. I also just visited this w/s:
www.fromdrc.com
Now, why is this being auctioned off on ebay for a big chunk of change? Interesting.
SuperHopeful: I hope you did all of your homework on that. It holds lots of issues and side effects. Visit webmd and :
www.drugs.com/pro/ribavirin.html
All - I have been away this weekend and am just catching up on the hub news. Can someone tell me more on the GH Capture? I just sent Bayern an email. What do we know about this and how does it work?
Tryin 2 b: Yeah, I know about the dangers... but hey, I can't just wonder if it might work and not do anything about it. Everybody here seems to be contributing something here, I guess this is my contribution.
Fat: No, they took about the same time to heal.
I just read the link on GH Capture....I can't wait to get Bayern's update. This looks promising.
Fat: I think my answer was to short. I think what I'm trying to say is that I find it interesting that the Herpes virus "freaked out." And it only does that in my system when it (the virus) is in danger. I've lived with this thing long enought to become "intimate" with it and understand it's habits. I only break out in that one spot (that I described in my previous posts) when the virus is getting it's ass kicked. The only other time it did that was when I was literally gagging on food grade Hydrogen Peroxide for a month and a half. Ribavirin did it to the virus in one week flat. Slight headaches were the only noticable side effect that it had on my body. Today I finished up the 10 day first round. I hope my next OB comes quickly so I can hit it again.
Super
Hubbers - Let me lend some credibility to Dr. C.
1) Avirol works very well
2) Avirol is more expensive at other sites
3) The man always said he was a Chiro
4) He also has a business selling other products
The decision to use or not use a product is an individual choice. After Resolve and True Cures, I am skeptic about anyone hawking products to us but Avirol really works. Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.
positiveenergies
SuperHopeful, zappers freak out the virus if you put the zapper on your lower back for 15-30 min everyday. Thats what I was trying. It popped out and I did Resolve and then MMS like crazy to try to kill it but no go.
Resolve and MMS did not work. Resolve actually made it worse it seems or maybe it was the MMS. Same crap anyway.
The cure has to be some type of protocol similiar to the virus. It should be something that we apply to the OB and it needs to follow the virus and kill it in the nerves. I don't think taking anything by mouth will do the trick unless its a drug but that wont be created in our lifetime unless the big pharma exec's children get infected.
I'm sure there is a natural cure out there but we haven't discovered it yet. It's probably some type of leaf in the Amazon that you rub on for 1 week or something stupid like that.
Tryin 2 b- Hi. I'm fine. I'm on mms1 for 15 drops 3 times a day. Everyhour protocol was hard for me to do cause of work&stuff. And I was up to 8 drops every hour maybe it was too much I don't know. mms2 hasn't arrived yet so I had to order once more !!! Now I'm also having UVBI treatments 3 times a day. Kathleen on the hubs told me about that. It looks promising. Well I'm on the half way. The doc says I can test a month after 10 - 12 treatments. This is good but no money back guarantee :) I don't want my money back I want the cure actually. I'm also excited about this GH Capture. I'm checking the hubs every hour to see if Bayern is back... I'm also waiting for Kathleen to send me medavirs hoping there won't be any obs to apply on :)
Thanks for the info about acyclovir. I'm a bit mixed. Actually I didn't want to take suppressants but a KeeperOfTheFaith is cured with acyclovir, lecithin, lysine and medavir. I'm on lysine and lecithin so I thought of trying acyclovir. Actually bought 3 boxes but stopped after 2 days. I don't want to send the virus into hiding . What do you think ? Should we take acyclovir like KeeperOfTheFaith did ?
Kathleen : You are the kind hearted one :)
Positiveenergies : You're doing KeeperOfTheFaith protocol... Is it exactly the same ? do you take acyclovir 200mgx2 times a day ? How are your IgG numbers and how much time have you been infected for ?
Thanks.
With love...
Superhopeful - I also took Ribavirin. You should take iron supplements with it because it negatively affects your red blood count. Also, take a liver cleanser after a couple of weeks to eliminate all effects of R in your system.
I was not a good candidate for Ribavirin because I do not get outbreaks and the drugs had little H virus to work on. I am really happy that you tried it and have some positive outcome from it. It is a drug with some side effects but as far as I am concerned, the emotional and financial toll of H outweighs the short discomfort of Ribavirin. Best of luck to you.
positiveenergies
Its Monday 9am.....waiting for Bayern.
I am about to get on a plane to China and meet up with you.
If that is the only way to get it then I will make the trip and get it for us all.
Positiveenergies - thanks for the good advice... so you mean to say that you didn't do two rounds of it?
rc2009 - then maybe you should try combining the zapper with Keeperofthefaith's protocol
By the way, what kind of lecithin did keeperofthefaith use???? There are different kinds... granuals, soy, egg..etc
I have read that the zappers will make the drugs in your body much stronger.
011 861087039028
this is how you dial their number. But I dont speak chinese and they dont speak english.
kinad reminds me of the time in '68 when i dropped acid with a bunch of girls from the hortice clan and we all thought we were frogs. 'ribbit ribbit' was all we could say to each other.
bayern where are you ???
Hi Positiveenergies,
So you have been taking Keeper of the faiths protocol for a few months, are you taking the exact same mount?
How do you know that your not 100% cured? Have you had any outbreaks since you started taking the protocol?
Love Oz
Positiveenergies : You're doing KeeperOfTheFaith protocol... Is it exactly the same ? do you take acyclovir 200mgx2 times a day ? How are your IgG numbers and how much time have you been infected for ?
Thanks.
With love...
BAYERN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where are you???????????
Bayern went back to the club getting drunk...lol...lol...lol kiding!!!!, just being humorous..
Fat Harold - get some GD-Capture for me. I will pay you for it. Can't we order it online? Surely, we can order this online so you don't have to fly to China. Don't forget me!
Fat Harold, if you are serious about going to China, I will also pay you for some GH Capture. Thanks!
Bayern, can't wait until you return to the hub. Thanks!
Is there any information on the net about this GH capture?
yes i will get some for all who want it. after we determine its not a scam and bayern stops playing with his X box and gets back with us.
but i think bayern has to order it and then when he gets it then i would get it from him.
its not on any shelves i dont think.
i called the number the captain put up and hes right they answer in Chinese and they hung up on me when i asked to speak to someone in english.
The issue with the grammar on the GH capture web page....I think they initially wrote the web page in chinese, and did a google translation to get the English version...
Question?... If this thing was developed in China, why do they have western faces as Doctors? I googles the names of the Doctors, but to no avail....just thinking out loud, while waiting on Bayern...
I just tried clicking on each of the doctors on GH-Capture and they all lead to an 'error' page. Last night, it led to bios for each physician. I wonder why they are not working now.
Soclose: Glad to hear you doing well. I start on my mms2 tomorrow when I get back from work. I don't think you really need to do the acyclovir....reason being is exactly what you stated. You don't want to send it back into hiding. That's why I stopped the valtrex. I can get a refill but I won't. Plus I still have some pills left here. I haven't tried the lecithin as of yet. I need to get it tomorrow following the gym or prior if I get the chance or forget. My protocol as of tomorrow is mms 1 and 2, 2700mg of monolaurin, 3000mg of bht, 3000mg of l-lysine. I know I'll probably have to start back at a low dose of the mms. I gave it up to take 20,000mg of vit c due to a cold. I am also taking colloidal silver now. Too soon to know if it's working on anything. I honestly don't know if I'll even have an ob again if it works or not atleast until about January. That would mark the 5th month and that's when I ob is every 5 months. I will test before then though.
rc2009: How long were you taking mms and resolve? You call them the same crap but they're not. Let's face it one is wwwaaaayyyyyyy more expensive. I think that this h has to be beaten in different ways. The way I see it you need a multiple line defense on it and offense. Your immune system is offense and defense. Topically is defense.
I do like you thinking though. It's similar to my own. I wish that something could be created to follow it to where it hides then kill it. Further, I wish we could just morph it into something that we can kill. Kind of like a reach virus or something. Something we can crush with our feet. Well our immune systems.lol
positivenergies: Are you cured? I'm trying to follow you. You don't get ob's anymore? Are you shedding? What's the dealio on you?
denni, yes i was laughing..my OB is still healing..that medavir does nothing it actually makes the OB last longer...
Lee and ALL: Thanks but still no excuse for not launching a new product correctly. If this is a bunch of dr's then it has to have money funding it.
I'm starting to believe that it's a fake. I tried googling up some dr's in the USA and pulled up who I was looking for. I also tried looking up those dr's in Berlin, Germany and not a ting I got mon. Not a ting at ahll.lol Smells fishy and I'm not within 20 miles of the ocean. I'm hopeful but not retarted.
Today when I was thinking about H, I had a great brainstorm... Anyways, years ago I went to a 3rd generation Chinese acupunturist in Seattle (the real deal). He hooked up these electrodes to a few needles in my back. He had some kind of and electric machine where he could turn up or down (as much as I could stand) the electric current. Talk about a zapper! That's the zapper we need! No Joke! I think I would put the needles in my glands to the right and left of the genital area, turn up the juice... twice a day. Then at the same time do an ativiral (oral) protocol to kill all of the virus as its flushed out with electricity. I think that the zapper you buy specifically for herpes just doesn't supply enough current to flush all of those little buggers out! I'm going to look into where I can get these devices that are used in professional cupunture. Anyone have any thoughts on this???
Super
Another thought... has anyone heard of the spider called the brown recluse (fiddleback)??? It has a venom that rots the flesh of it's victims - real nasty, and there's no antidote for it. But there are doctors now that use electricity to neutralize the venom! Actually, a common stun gun works to do this! I think that if we could find the right frequency combined with the right amount of current supplied to the nerves where this bugger hides, we could flush it out and kill it with antiviral meds!!!
Super
And no, I'm not suggesting anyone use a stun gun on their genitalia, but I think electric current might be an ingredient in the cure!
Super
Everyone has heard about electrolosis with water right? If you put electric current through water, it splits the molecule into Hydrogen and Oxygen! Just a matter of the right frequency and amount of current!
Super
Tryin2b, I used Resolve and finished it and immediately after I started MMS 15x 2 times per day. The last couple of days I did 4-5 drops every hour along with medavir.
And it doesn't work.
rc2009: Thanks I hope something does. In fact I'm sure it will. In...I hope a short time.
SuperHopeful - Pleae, don't fry the pu**y. lol Sorry, couldn't resist!
Superhopeful - I don't get enough viral activity to warrant using Ribavirin. I am not a good candidate for the drug so I really cannot access its worth.
SoClose - I have been taking a super cocktail of everything including Lecithin, Lysine, VSC-TCM, Olive leaf, CoQ 10, Pycnogenol, Avirol (when I remember), trace minerals, Valtrex.
I have been using it for about 3 months now and can feel the difference. Do I still have symptoms? Yes, I absolutely do! I have H2 for 2 years and 3 months now. My last test numbers were way high. The test did not say exactly how high. I will try to test sometime this week to see where my numbers are.
I sincerely believe that taking Resolve has spread the virus to other nerve endings in my body. Resolve was not able to kill the exposed virus. Taking my cocktail, have eliminated 95% of the symptoms that I experienced a few months ago.
I believe that our bodies are different and the needs are different but overall, we are deficient in some form of supplement/nutrient.
Good luck with your protocol.
positiveenergies
Right now,
positiveenergies
Superhopeful.... your stun gun on the genitalia comment made me laugh!! LOL THANKS for that! I just picture people actually doing it, and thinking OH MY!!
20 hours for bayern is up.... maybe he is following all leads before posting back here and getting us all riled up
superhopeful: brown recluse; small little spider with one hell of a bite! know it well. one always finds a way into my tent!
seems like if it were a scam they would be heavily marketing it in the US.
Denni come out of your hiding place, are you ok?
Has anybody used ResolveHerpes? I'm on day 30 something of Step One and need to hear feedback please.
Dr C : I tried Humic Acid or "Avirol" which is a product that you promoted for two months. It did absolutely nothing for me. As far as calling you out as a fake doc and you claiming you're not a doc ; You call yourself Dr c you fool. This site is rife with scammers. Fortunetely for them it is equally rife with suckers. Everyone should ask themselves how much they spent on BS H meds and how many people are cured. Dr C I sincerely appreciate you selling products that don't work. We all need hope, right?
Superhopeful : I believe electricity is a key to cure. But I don't know any doctors using it as a treatment for it. I also do not know the needed frequency we should apply. Here is a story about electricity used to cure aids. And it is patented on US Patent Office but the doCtors are now denying it ever existed :)
Health Last Updated: Jan 21st, 2008 - 00:50:31
Medical researchers patented AIDS cure in 1990
By Juris Doctor Boyd Graves
Forward by Jerry Mazza
Online Journal Associate Editor
Jan 21, 2008, 00:18
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I can?t think of any more fitting time than the anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther?s birthday to submit this article by Boyd Graves, an African American who has first-hand knowledge of AIDS and has sustained his life by his own research into viable cures. He has also persistently contributed to combating AIDS by submitting his findings to those in power to bring about ?positive? changes in attitude towards cures at home and around the world.
As expected, he has been largely ignored, if not persistently harassed by elements in power. The below article is a perfect example, originally published on December 13, 2007, and forwarded with other materials by Dr. Graves to Speaker of the House Nancy Pilosi and Joe Leonard of the Congressional Black Caucus. In the name of Dr. King, let us assert one more time that We Shall Overcome, not just politically, but medically as well. Let there be life for our world, all of it. JM. . . .
In the Fall of 1990, two medical researchers, Drs. William Lyman and Steven Kaali, working at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City made an important discovery. They found that they could inactivate the HIV virus by applying a low voltage direct current electrical potential with an extremely small current flow to AIDS infected blood in a test tube. Initially, they discovered this in the lab by inserting two platinum electrodes into a glass tube filled with HIV-1 (type 1) infected blood.
They applied a direct current to the electrodes and found that a current flow in the range of 50-100 microamperes (uA) produced the most effective results. Practically all of the HIV viral particles were adversely affected while normal blood cells remained unharmed. The viral particles were not directly destroyed by the electric current, but rather the outer protein coating of the virus was affected in such a way as to prevent the virus from producing reverse transcriptase, a necessary enzyme needed by the virus to invade human cells.
Reverse transcriptase allows the virus to enter a human T cell line (called CEM-SS) and commandeer the DNA reproduction machinery. After using the host cell to reproduce itself into thousands of new virii, the swollen host cell (now called syncytia or giant cell) will burst and spew the contents into the bloodstream or lymph system. This is how the virus spreads, but lacking reverse transcriptase, the HIV virus can't invade the host cell and it becomes vulnerable to destruction by the body's immune system. (The details of this experiment can be read from Kaali's patent application.)
A brief announcement of this discovery appeared in The Houston Post (Mar 20, 1991), then in Science News (Mar. 30, 1991 pg. 207) and later in Longevity magazine: (Dec.1992 pg. 14). Following their work in the Fall of 1990, Kaali and Lyman presented their findings at the First International Symposium on Combination Therapies (an AIDS conference) in Washington DC on March 14th, 1991. Kaali outlined two methods for treating an AIDS patient with this new therapy: One method involved removing a small amount of blood, electrifying it and then returning it to the patient's body. The second method involved sewing a miniature electrifying power supply along with two tiny electrodes directly into the lumen of an artery. For long term treatment, the mini electrifying unit needed to be removed and relocated to a new artery site after 30-45 days since scar tissue and calcification forming around the implant unit would lead to artery blockage. Kaali (along with co-inventor Peter Schwolsky) filed for a patent on this implantable electrifying device on Nov 16, 1990 and nine months later was granted patent #5,139,684 on August 18, 1992.
It's interesting to note two things here:
1. In order to obtain a patent from the United States Patent Office, Kaali and Schwolsky had to prove that the device works as claimed. Lacking solid proof, US patents are simply not granted.
2. Very often it takes years to obtain a patent, yet this patent was granted in only nine months; a further indication to me of the strength of their demonstrated claims
It's also interesting to note that other than the 3 publications mentioned above and the March '91 AIDS conference, nothing again appeared in print, radio, or TV about this important discovery as a potential treatment and cure for AIDS from Kaali and company. Most knowledgeable observers feel that Kaali and Lyman's discovery was intentionally suppressed following the March '91 AIDS conference presentation.
If AIDS research was on the level and not the sham that it actually is, this should have made front page news around the world. (Around 1999, I was contacted by a woman with AIDS who had managed to reach Dr. William Lyman over the phone. She asked him about his experiments with Kaali regarding blood electrification and if she could obtain the treatment through them. Lyman denied any knowledge of any AIDS treatment or cure. He said he never heard of Dr. Kaali and he had no idea what she was talking about concerning blood electrification and then hung up on her. What does that tell about the power of the people behind the suppression of this discovery?)
With love...
Its all about money soclose greed profit etc, no money in cures
jack the lad : How sad that it is so...
bayern : Where are you ???
Does anybody here know techiegirl personally ? I'm curious about her ? Is she ok ?
Fat Harold - any word from Bayern yet?? I am dying to know more about GH Capture. Thanks.
AVA i think big pharma shot him
no word from bayern yet. this is bugging me a lot.
Fat Harold - in his defense, Bayern did say he was moving and was going to be offline for a couple days...I think I recall reading that...hopefully, he will return soon with some good news!
i have called the number captain cloud posted and they could not speak to me either. no english.
i have a contact in china where i buy laser parts for. i would have to let him know i have H though but he could call them.
I guess we should just wait for bayern though.
Hows the advertising business these days?
Thanks Fat Harold. If we do not hear from Bayern, we should be able to find someone who can help us who is bilingual. Ad business is very soft...but picking up.
I was thinking that before we do this maybe we should go do a few of those vitamin C IV's so our bodies are nice and healthy first.
Did you find a place in Houston who is willing to do those first?
well i thought that one place did them called the infusion center.
or we can go to new mexico
positive energies : Thanks for your reply. I wish you good luck with your protocol and test. I believe we'll all be cured and hope you'll be the first :) I had low numbers when I was first infected (1.36). After 48 sessions of ozone treatment it went down to 1.22 and after resolve it went up to 5.2.( or 5.3 I don't remember right now) Now I'm on mms1, lecithin, lysine, calcium magnesium plus zinc and lauricidin. I had 6 treatments of UVBI after I've spoken to Kathleen.I'm also waiting for mms2 to arrive. I still have symptoms but they will be over soon... I'll test before I start mms2 to check where I'm at my journey. I'll let all you know about how it goes.
With love...
I love how we are all working, looking over our shoulders each time we check this hub.
Captain Cloud : Thank God we have this hub and each other here :)
Soclose - what did you tell the doctor before you received the UVBI treatments. Did you tell them why you wanted the treatments? Or can you just get high dose UVBI treatments without saying why.
ava what is your verdict on resolve? you think its a scam?
you seem very intent on finding a cure.
ava : I told the doc about my condition.
bayern oh bayern where are you???
Maybe bayern is buying up all the GH Capture he can get a hold of so he can some to us all!! The suspense is driving me crazy!! OH to be cured before the end of 2009!!! That would be so awesome!
At the mo i feel like a little boy waiting for farther christmas lol, is he coming or is,nt he ?.....
I can not wait to hear from Bayern!!! I really hope this is not another scam! I'm in the same boat all you guys are in. You all are so inspiring. I really hate that I have tried do many things, and nothing has worked. I thought medavir did, but I ended up getting another outbreak!
Bayern better get his butt back on this hub or I will be adding him to my list.
SoClose: Yeah, I believe the AIDS story. It seems to me that there are these corporations and beaurocracies that look out for themselves and pay off our politicians to make them make us do what they want. They are these huge monsters under my bed and in my closet.... I want my mommy!
Super
Captain Cloud - without a doubt, Resolve does not work. I have been on this hub since 2008 and have been through Resolve twice. Still positive. And not only that, it doubled my IGG levels. I know they work hard at convincing everyone that the IGG test is not the right test but that is the gold standard in America. Without a doubt, someone is making a lot of money on people and no one has been cured yet. If you call it a scam, that is up to you. I can say without a doubt it does not work. That is another reason why Resolve is barely discussed on this hub anymore. Because everyone has tried it and everyone is still positive. Good luck in your quest.
Well, I suppose every once in a while, we'll get some poor person asking us about relsolve. I suppose we can welcome them to the hub in a manner that does not offend them if they are currently on resolve and offer them support in another direction.
To all on Resolve Minerals: Yes, it's true... Resolve will suppress your Herpes for a while, but it does return to haunt you with more blisters. Case closed. But don't give up... there is a cure. That I'm sure of. How much time it will take, I just dunno. But eventually...
To all hubbers: I came across an old blog on the curezone. It said that someone took 2400mg of Valtrex for 10 days and never had another outbreak. They claim that the recommended dose of 400-800mg daily is too low and will only suppress the virus. But a huge dosage will actually destroy it. Any comments??? Has anyone here heard of that or tried it??? Please speak up if you have.
Thanks,
Super
Oh, one other thing. I know that a lot of us spend huge amounts of time searching the internet for "herpes cure." I think it would be beneficial to us to also type into the search engines "HIV cure" because perhaps somebody that almost cured aids ran across something that would cure Herpes, but just didn't try it on herpes... they were only looking to cure AIDS. So when you're searching for info, try to expand your searches... it may lead to something good.
Just some more food for thought,
Super
Soclose, jack the lad and ALL: I appreciate the story. I seems believable. What some of us forget is that, it's about money and not just about money. We forget about the word POWER! I think that one of a few reasons why that Dr. denied knowing about the test he had done and knowing the other Dr could be chalked up to threats by the government and/or he got paid a huge sum of money to just shut the "F" up. Think about what J. Humble says. He always does his research in Africa. He doesn't want to get caught up in this mess. This powertrip that all of our governments have will eventually catch up to it. I hope I'm still and alive when it does. I'd like to see it with my own 2 eyes. I always think of a volcano. First suppression then eruption. The way of life.
Soclose, that was a great story and something I'm sure none of us knew about. You are once again the man.
Tomorrow I'll be starting on my mms2/mms1 protocol. I just received my cap filler. We'll see. And I'm still suprised to know you still haven't received your mms2 yet. That's um-ah really something. I hope you haven't paid for both times you ordered it. How does your body feel with the blood treatments you getting?
dust: Medavir stated it could take up to 4 applications to work. How many have you had? If just a few give it a chance. I bought some medavir and haven't had an ob as of yet and that's been since January of this year.. I don't know it I'll get one until January of 10. I hope I'll never get another one at all. It's usually every 5 months for me.
SuperHopeful: Sorry to tell you this but your mommy can't help you from the beast about to strike known as big brother.(yeah I stole a line from MJ.lol None of our mommy's are in control anymore. Hell we're not. We only have a few functions on this planet. Be born, eat, poop, pay taxes, get sick then die. Such as life. And did you notice the wore FUN was not included?lol
Ughh.. my body is sore after the finishing the first round of Ribavirin. My teeth, back, and groin. Maybe it's the rain that's supposed to come tomorrow. I dunno. But I felt an "itch" today. I think it's not gone yet. I hope I have and OB so I can hit it with the 2nd round to see it this really works. I've been kinda depressed today... maybe it's the Ribavirin. As I look around at all the people in this world, it seems like nobody is truely happy... rich or poor. I think our whole society needs a big change. United we stand, divided we fall. I think the whole world is truely divided. Maybe it's just the depression. Maybe I'm just seeing the world for what it truely is. We need more love, more self-sacrifice. We need to realize that we are all just brothers and sisters of this earth and love each other in a better way. Please, God, Spirit, Higher-Power, forgive me for my short comings... bring us some peace, harmony, happiness, love. Bring us a cure. Amen.
SuperHopeful: That valtrex thing is interesting. I wonder if it works. As much as I've taken was 1 gram at a time...and that's kind of high. Did this guy test again to see if he's negative? Very curious about this. I wonder if he's just throwing a theory out here.
HI..family i am back,,i am tired.....i am updating .may take few minutes , so informed you first
Welcome back Bayern!
Tryin 2 b: I think that the dosage they were talking about was 3 grams. I dunno if it's true... but it does make a little sense and would be another theory worth testing if anybody has the chance.
Super
Glad to hear from you, Bayern. :) Looking forward to hearing more from you regarding GH Capture. Bless you.
Bayern - did you meet with the doctors regarding GH Capture? We are all looking forward to hearing what you found out. Thanks for checking in.
sorry family...i got so late to update cause i was so much busy to know the fact..very sorry for that, i just came back from Beijing and doing this first thing.
but sorry..i didnt get the prize as we expected...and after visiting there got big big confusion and tension...
that hotline doctor gave me every address to see him..but he didnt meet me and refused my call after i reached the Beijing...any way i got the place and met with another physician and asked about it.
first thing...he said medicine is not available right now at this hospital.he said that.. he does not know many things about it..but that hospital used before and it is made by chinese bio pharmacy..
after then,,i dislike his sound like this game..so i showed him my Doctor ID card, after that he afriad of me very much..and he just told me wait for his call and he will say me fact after few days.after then i met a director of that hospital..then got the clue about this webside....
the director told me, this medicine had well effect on few people,but that hospital doesnt sell that..just some physician prescribed to some body and shown well effect..so may be some one from our hospital trying to do web business. so , it is not by our hospital...
i asked and explained him every thing as there explained in web page..he said that medicine is true medicine but he still doesnt know it cured or not..and the web side is fake not real by the hospital...and that hospital belongs to the government also.so hospital can not do that until government allow..
after that i asked him the address of the pharmaceutical address..he just said me that he is busy now , he will try to collect the right information about it and tell me after few days..
i got so sad..i cried at this hospital.. but i had no way..i spent about 300 US dolor, got no thing at last
and after i went to the CDC center office in Beijing...if that medicine is real, CDC should knows that..but i did not meet a doctor there who knows me very well..i have called him to know the fact about this medicine if it is cure or not...so.....at last i came back dropping tears all the way back home
but..i still have hope it is real medicine just need to find the pharmaceutical, so still wait..wait wait.. its not the end until find the root..that website is fake .. and all people are fake.some one trying to do net business,uploading many fake things....but as that real physician said ,, it is real medicine and had good effect..
so let me research more...thats all..any body wanna ask me any thing about it, you can email me .. madhabg100@yahoo.com
any body there..what do you think about my this job and what is your idea..share me please.
just what i thought.
people will do anything to make a buck these days.
sorry bayern but your a trooper for doing what you did.
We have all sacrificed.
Keep trying to find the company that makes this and give it a try then let us know.
WOW!i!. Just as I expected by the language. If it was real...you should make sure that you hire the best people to make it sound and look real. Just because it's real medicine and has a good effect doesn't mean it cures. Half full/half empty. Something will work. I still have hope though.
Bayern: Thanks for your trip. I know it was made for all of us. You are a good person and I appreciate you. Keep your head up. We will beat this thing. All of us! Your trip was important. Yes you hit some brick walls but there's a clearing just beyond the brush. Just wait. We'll find it.
God bless you bayern what has this world come to eh......Make,s you wonder if there,s any honest people out there now.
Bayern.....I truly appreciate your tireless efforts in the journey to find a cure.....your trip was not in vain...and I believe as long as we keep searching eventually we will find the cure.....thank you so much for sharing the information....Big hugs to you for the wonderful person you are
Bayern : Thank you very much for your time and effort. You did that for all of us. I really appreciate that. Please do not let yourself down we'll all be cured I believe !
Thanks Bayern for your update. And to everyone else, this hub has been really positive for me as it shows there are people who are actively pursuing a cure like myself. I truly believe that with such positive actions and such support provided to each other, there will be a cure for us all.
I want to say thank you to everyone for sharing and for caring. Lets stay positive and find that elusive cure!
hopefully one day there is a cure.....
Hey Tryin 2 be I'm really intrigued by your valtrex story! I kind of want to try it, but would I od? That would be really embarrassing! Could You imagine having to explain that one?
BAYERN! Thanks for doing everything that you did!! I am still curious to hear what you find out about the pharmaceutical company that makes this GH Capture stuff. We all share your tears.
Thank you Bayern. If all of us good people put forth this kind of effort, we are bound to find something that really works!
Super
but the gh capture product does really exist. so bayern just needs to figure out who makes it and go from there.
Bayern - Thanks for being our investigative reporter in China. You did GREAT! I sense that GH capture will be no better than VSC-TCM. There are too many wrong signals in this deal - 1) the first doctor will talk only on the phone but will not meet with you. I guess he is protecting his identity. 2) The 2nd doctor gives info but he looks and sounds dishonest and when you present your ID - he runs off. 3) The hospital Director says hospital does not know about the fake website but authenicates the product.
I say too many negatives. It already looks bad for us. Too many scammers out there! Thanks so much for looking out for us.
Superhopeful - One of the side effects of Ribavirin is depression and it sounds like you are there. Don't feed into it and it will go away after a few days.
positiveenergies
i may try ribavirin soon. But the side effects scare me.
Here is something that I am trying. Lethicin. You may ask me why? Well for many reasons.
First - this testimonial from a herb blog -"I tried Lecithin. A Bechtel engineer who worked at a laboratory when he was younger told me that they grew the herpes virus. They used Lecithin to control and kill the herpes virus. He saw the herpes breakout on my face one day at work. He told me to take 2500 mg each day for a month. I asked him why he hasn't come forward with this information. He said that the FDA was too powerful to fight.
It worked for me. I haven't had a breakout in 20 years.
As I understand it, hospitals use Lecithin based baby formulas on new born babies born to women with genital herpes.
Lecithin 2500 mg a day for a month"
Second - Keeper of Faith took this for 6 weeks and was cured. She was on the resolve illness hub.
Third - That Chinese site that Bayern visited had it as one of the key ingredients as the cure. Take a look.
Fourth - I emailed the guy who wrote that testimonial and he replied saying that he swore that it worked. I am on day two. It is less than 10 dollars. This guy has no motivation to make money on this since so many companies produce it and he never told me where to buy it.
Google lecithen and herpes and you will find some articles. I have hope and am on it.
I will update you guys with how I am doing. Apparantly, I should expect the herx effect and have a huge outbreak and then never have another OB again.
Just me giving some insight.
DDD
thanks DDD your very kind for sharing this.
I am headed over to GNC to get some right now and get started.
DDD let me get this right.... You had herpes 20 years ago took lethicin for a month and bingo. How long hadyou been having outbreaks for, and how bad where they ?. And is it ok to take 25000 ml a day, i know that might sound a silly to ask , as your still alive and kicking lol
DDD: I have read many interestingly great things about lecithin also. But I am confused because there are many different types. Soy, egg, granuals and liquids... which type would be best. I have heard of revolutionary HIV drugs that are extremely similar to lecithin, made from egg yolks. When I do my second round of Ribavirin, I will take daily lecithin with it and hope for the best.
As far as KeeperoftheFaith... did she/he have type 1 or 2 herpes???
Thanks,
Super
Question about pregnancy... if a woman with herpes want to conceive, what is the best thing for her to do to insure that the baby is HSV negative?
Thanks again,
Super
I also came across a blog which said somebody was cured of herpes using Humaworm. The Humaworm website doesn't even mention herpes but the person in the blog made the claim. I found it pretty interesting. Just another thing worth trying I suppose.
Here's a list of things I haven't finished trying yet:
Ribavirin (2 stages)
Humaworm
Megadose of Valtrex for 10 days (2400mg)
KeeperoftheFaith's formula of lecithin, acyclovir & lysine
I'll try them all until I find what works.
Super
Kim, where are you??? How are you doing???
DDD: I´ve been taking 2400mg of GNC Lecithin daily since JUNE, still live and kicking and still have the HS virus. Hate to be the one who´s bringing the hard facts to the table, but Lecithin works as an suppressive supplement nothing more, It will not eradicate the virus from your body, it´s just one of those supplements that helps you keep it in bay.
Superhopeful - You are doing a Ribavirin protocol so, please do not conceive now. You need to wait for 6 months before conception. This waiting time allows for the Ribavirin to get out of your system and not endanger the baby.
Secondly - If a woman does not want her baby to have HSV then she should not deliver vaginally when she has an active outbreak. Don't worry so much about this, the doctor will advise whether you should do C- section or normal birth to prevent transmission.
positiveenergies
sux to hear about lecithin not a cure. just bought two things of it.
but i am allergic to soy so it was a bad idea.
looked all over the web and didnt find many people saying they cured themselves with it.
so far ribavirin is the only thing that may work.
i got a bad OB while using vs-c but i will stay with that for a while.
good thing about this hub is that one person can try one thing while someone else tries another so we can weed out things faster.
Doctors give Valtrex to pregnant women on the last month of pregnancy but also suggest C section. I would go with C section as valtrex causes too many health problems.
I would not advise to take that much Valtrex, it lowers your white blood count. I was taking it for 2 years straight, had no OBs but my WBC was at 334.
Fat Harold -where do you buy ribavirin?
PositiveEnergies: Thanks for the good info. I understand.
Bayern...Thanks for the info...I guess we are back to square one...
RC 2009 & SuperHopeful - Valtrex works exceedingly well with me. No negative side effects to report. Valtrex is better tolerated than most of the other anti-viral drugs out there. Let your GYN guide you on this one.
For the cheapest testing centers - go to www.prepaidlab.com. Herpes test are only $40.
positiveenergies
Dust: I would hope you wouldn't od on that valtrex. That will be my last resort is to go back to that. And I can't imagine any trying to explain od'n on that.lol Now that would really be something.
Soclose: I thought that mms1 was supposed to basically oxygenate the blood. Is this right? If so then lethithin deoxygenates the blood. Do you see where I'm going with this? It's a push and pull. They will cancel each other out.
DDD: What is your story? I see you were ob free with lecithin but now you have what exactly? And were you reinfected? If so, how long?
To All: I just started the mms1 and mms2 protocol today. My suggestion would be to drink something with a great taste prior to taking mms2 every 2 hours. I found that out the hard way. It will make you burp up what tastes like chlorine. That shyt is horridable. EEEWWWWW! Blah! So that is what I do now is to drink something that's good tasting prior to doing mms2. I also drink mms1 with plain water. It's not bad at all. Just don't inhale it. That's where the taste comes in.
rc2009: I used to take valtrex it does work. I haven't had and effective ob since January. Great track record for me. You might be right about the wbc too. But just to make you aware. A lot of people start to get ob's after taking valtrex for 2 years. Just be propared if your still on it. I just bought some lecithin but I never opened it up just to be sure. I'll probably be returning it tomorrow.
Echelon: Thanks for that. I wasn't sure it would cure it. Otherwise it too would be pulled of the shelves.
fat-harold: We can't put finding the man behind the iron curtain all on Bayern. It's up to all of us to do as much research as we can. One of us may find out before he can. Lets all try to investigate this. Bayern has done a lot and was already devastated enough for a minute.
ava- i ordered mine through medsmex. very reputable.
i was gonna make a trip there but just went ahead and ordered it instead.
whats your plan now?
i bought a bunch of lecithin today but now it seems its more of a suppressant rather than a cure.
DDD
Bechtel is an engineering company. I dont think they have labs.
Not sure if they have been in business for more than 20 years or not.
So the blog you came across may be a false type of posting.
Fat Harold - I am still very, very interested in the IV Vitamin C Treatments. I believe a high dose of Vit c can push any toxins out....I'd like to try that. Can you get the details on that. I don't want a suppressant. I want to kill this thing.
Tryin 2 b - : Hey my man :) I didn't know that lecithin would deoxygenate the blood. You're probably sure that it does... I think I'll stop lecithin for sometime and then start again if needed... Today my mms2 has arrived. My first package is lost I think. Yes I paid for the two of the packages but Jim Humble's man are willing to send me two mms2s for free. I told them I had 3 mms2s already with me which will probably be enough for the cure and asked them to send the free mms2 s to someone who needs it but cannot afford. They will do it I think. Now my protocol will be :
mms1 : 6 drops everyhour for 8 hours
mms2 : 1 capsule every 2 hours for 8 hours
lysine : 9000 mg a day
lauricidin : 2 scoops x 3 times a day
I'll do the Jim Humble's AIDS protocol for h for 3 weeks and hopefully be cured. I 'll let you all know about how it goes. I'm still on UVBI treatments. Tomorrow will be the 8th one. I'll go up to 10 sessions. After tenth I'll test. I'll also test after 3 weeks of mms1 and 2.
Pretty Brown eyes : Resolve did not work for me and for most of us. But there is someone with the nick sunshine honey... She said resolve along with other things she used has helped her get rid of the virus.
Here's her answer to my post :
Soclose:
Lysine I don't think weakens the virus.. it isn't an anti-viral... all it does is set your body at a state where it is not happy to live in... but yes do high high doses of lysine while on any detox for herpes..like I'm talking up to 10 000 mg a day. I know it sounds like a lot.. but it helped me... now i barely take it.
I'm also taking two products off of Nature's sunshine Website called HRP-C and Mineral Chi-Tonic. You can search them on there. Its basically just an immune system booster alone with some stuff that helps with the nervous system. all natural stuff. Good to replenish your body with minerals after doing RESOLVE because it robs your body of a LOT of minerals. My hair started falling out even... so watch out for that.
You can find sunhine honey on this hub :
http://hubpages.com/hub/Herpes-Resolve-Illness
With love to everyone...
did anyone try the new biogetica? I tried the old one without success. If anyone has, what was the result? I still have it but don't really want to quit alcohol to take it if it will not work.
hi..slice...how long and when did you take biogetica ? did you get any changes? as they said me. it can takes long time and you should contact with them if still with symptoms. did you?
PrettyBrownEyes: Resolve Minerals has worked for nobody I have blogged or spoken with. It may keep you OB free for a few months at the very best. But the OBs return and resume life as usual. I wish it wasn't true... the people at Resolve will tell you that you just need more time to clear and sell you booster doses until hell freezes over. Yes, this is the REAL truth.
hi family.....I kept contact with a good chinese medicine physician at a top chinese medicine hospital...and i am too much satisfied with his truth and kind words...we need to make a right decision to take top three things in three step using differnt theory of action of medicine..there are many people in the world be cured with differnt medicine..i am searching these things.i am sure can find a best chinese real product cause i am in good contcat with many top chinese medicine doctor....and i also using my knowledge.. but we should go on including homeopathy also cause it has broad action if right selection for the right symptoms... what do you think about my idea.. dont take any things just for trying, trying like a pig....
The Boy From Oxford is Resolve. Do not let him lie to you. He is only after your money.
Here is a list of people that took Resolve and remain UNCURED today: PositiveEnergies, Sierra, Grateful, Time2Fly, Leprechaun, Newbie, Tboxer, Cookie, Cali, Yoda, Eve2008, Drew, Miami, Silently Suffering, Fat Harold, Kim, Superhopeful, Denni, Bayern, Ava, Lee, Katie, Jules, IBelieve, Tony, Mas, FaithRN, Fighter, Love and many more.
If it has not worked for these people - then it does not work. Buy at your own risk. I am tired warning people about this product.
positiveenergies
Superhopeful & Captain Cloud - Check out this link on Ribavirin & Acyclovir
http://www.diagnosisp.com/dp/journals/view_pdf.php
positiveenergies
Someone asked about Lecithin & Herpes. I believe this link may help. You need to download the research material.
http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/reprint/4/1/65
Some info on Lecithin -
is a concentrated food for the nerves that is completely absorded in the bloodstream in 10 to 15 minutes. Lecithin is found in all cells of the body, consequently, the supply must be adequate for reproducing new cells. It is an unusual neutralizer of body poisons, internal and external. It restores shattered nerves, depleted brain power and the activity of vital glands. Your nerve fibers are surrounded by a sheath of somewhat fatty substance - the myclin sheath. This protoective sheath is rich in lecithin, which nourishes your nerve cells and supplies the motive force. Lecithin is valuable in preventing atherosclerosis.
positiveenergies
so is DDD going to try lecithin?
Positiveenergies: Thanks for the links. Very interesting how the combinations make things more effective.
bayern.... as you continue to seach this out, keep us posted because you know, we want to know! We'll just wait to see what you find
Positiveenergies... I was reading some more of that article. It says that those combination therapies increased antiviral activity by up to 4000 times! And here's an interesting quote:
In mice infected with HSV-1 or HSV-
2 was obtained complete protection after 2-
times treatment with ACV and MPA
Do they mean that reoccurance didn't happen when they say "complete protection?" We need to get our hands on some of that MPA (Micophenolic acid)! Maybe Keeperofthefaith was really onto something with her hommade combination therapies!
Super
It says further that MPA comes from penicillin. So maybe that's the magic bullet! ...a combination of penicillin and acyclovir! Add that to the list of things to try... penicillin is easy to get also!
Super
Add me to the list of people not cure by resolve. Screwed up my period too.
Hi all, I am new to this hub, although I have been reading this hub for a least the last 9 or so months. I have HSV-1 and 2. I have never had an OB to my knowledge. I spend time looking for cures as do all of you. I have some questions and some information.
1. Has anyone tried blood electrification, I have watched videos and read serveral articles and it is very interesting.
2. MPA/ACV--- Seems this protocol may have some merit, although the study shows that it inhibits replication of the virus, it really did not say if we became totally free and clean of the virus. Here is the study:
The immunosuppressive agent mycophenolate mofetil (MMF) has been approved for use in kidney transplant recipients and may thus be used concomitantly for the treatment of intercurrent herpesvirus infections with drugs such as acyclovir (ACV), ganciclovir (GCV), and penciclovir (PCV). We found that MMF and its parent compound mycophenolic acid (at concentrations that are attainable in plasma) strongly potentiate the antiherpesvirus (herpes simplex virus [HSV] type 1 [HSV-1], HSV-2, thymidine kinase-deficient [TK-] HSV-1, both wild-type and TK- varicella-zoster virus, and human cytomegalovirus) activities of ACV, PCV, and GCV (up to 350-fold increases in their activities). The mechanism of potentiation was found to reside in the depletion of endogenous dGTP pools, which favored the inhibitory effect of the triphosphate of ACV, GCV, or PCV on the viral DNA polymerase. The combination of topically applied 5% MMF with 0.1% ACV strongly protected against HSV-1-induced cutaneous lesions in hairless mice, whereas therapy with either compound used singly had no protective effect. Interestingly, the combination of topically applied 5% MMF with 5% ACV was also highly effective in protecting against TK- HSV-2-induced cutaneous lesions (that were refractory to ACV treatment) in athymic nude mice. Topical therapy with MMF was very well tolerated, and no signs of irritation were observed. When given perorally at 200 mg/kg of body weight/day, MMF potentiated to some extent the growth retardation induced by GCV in young NMRI mice. These observations may have clinical implications (i) for those transplant recipients who receive both MMF and either ACV, GCV, or PCV and (ii) for the treatment of ACV-resistant mucocutaneous HSV infections.
I am doing lecithin and so far so good. Also, it is great for the brain. Will continue for 6 weeks. I think the blogger said to take the ganules, but I bought the 1200 mg triple strength capsules from NOW. I think Keeper took the regular 1200 mg capsules. Anyway, will update you guys.
ok family...i got a call from doctor about gh capture.and he said it,s copy by the homeopathy medicine and is effective but no claim of cure...thats all, so leave this topic......
last night i got the start of a big mama OB.
I took and handful. like 75 200mg pills of indole 3 carbimol which is very anti viral and the OB was gone this morning.
well...i also talked with the main physician Dr ming at chinese famous hospital who works with TCM...he adviced me many good things what may rid of virus with his medicine. he can use the theory to boost the immunity in the root cause..and he said me,,,there are no things in the world better to kill the virus than our own body..cause virus can hide some where and direct medicine never can reach over there in the root cause.any way the theory is the boosting immunity...
so i am also medicine doctor ...i made a decision with three theories to hit the virus from the root cause.. let me explain and try to join with me any body who are interested in my idea...
1st...boost the immunity high as much as we can that can makes alot of special antibody that can travel everywhere in side the body freely
2nd make a theory to push out the virus from the cell
3rd..kill the virus with that specific antibody and also use some strong medicine what should be not immunity suppressant
so i am choosing medicne as above theory...
1st..take homeopathy(biogetica? for three months and take chinese best herb for another three months what can produce different kind antibody what can kill virus very much..
2nd vitamin..C lysine..vitamin B- COMPLEX, and mineral(what used by resolve? can push the virus from the body but should drink alot of water with good workout..it should take for three months.
3rd..last things...take MMS1 and two as following to the jim humble for three months..
NOTE....quit smoke, drinking, sex,acidic foods...eat many fresh fruits on regualr basis,, sleep on regular basis during the treatment.........as i hope..its the best way to rid of virus then go to have blood test for spinal PCR, antibody test may take long time to go down at least three months..
it is my theory that not made only myself also made by some chinese doctor....what do you think about my idea...its long process but we have no choice,
and at the same time of possible with the step two, you can take acupuncture and acupressure once a day for one month and twice a week for 2 weeks and once a week for 7 days that can help to produce natural enzyme from the nerve cell that can also hit the pathogen, what also adviced by a chinese doctor
take it seriously and remember..there are many cases in china cured by the chinese herb and also many cases in the world cured by the MMS and homeopathy.. so i choosed these three best step...so let`s go on together..i do start it very soon..any body interested, let me know we can go on with right way sharing each other..and can help each other,,hard pasrt to collect the right minerals any way,,we can do it. every body what do you think about my idea..its long process,but i can see good prize.....if you know some other best also can add before MMS but MMS should take at last...take care every one..
Bayern hi . I totally agree with your 3 steps. I did resolve for 50 days. I'm now on mms1 and two. I also have my own way to wake the virus. I use heat to trigger an outbreak. Heating my lower back up to 70 oC for 37 minutes, 3 days in a row causes an outbreak. They I hit the virus with alcohol 95% directly injected into the emptied blisters...
There has been improvement but not close to a cure yet. I'm still hopeful. I'm going to use my way which is close to your way and also close to a friends way ( Tryin 2 b - ) . He also thinks the same way. Boost the immune sys, wake the virus, hit it by all means you have. That's good that we are all on the same track. We'll see what happens.
I'm also having UVBI treatments. I'll test on monday to see where I'm. I'll let all you know about the results. I believe we'll beat it !
With love...
Echelon: what kind of lecithin are you taking?
FAT: My wifi neighbors moved out and I had to pay for DSL..WTF??LOL
Capt Cloud: Ribbit Ribbit..ROFLMAO
I have to say I have been taking lecithin for weeks now and it seems to work pretty good..I have not been as consistent as I would like to be. And I say, whatever works on keeping the obs at bay works for me right now.because I get facial obs, so I am in no position to play around with this wicked virus..Thinking of facial obs I am researching fraxel laser for some much needed cosmetic work. Wish me luck..
Good Luck to everyone..I will stay in touch.
albeit, if you don't mind me asking? How did Resolve screw up your period? i noticed im heavier than normal...
I have a question...I was diagnosed with herpes probably 5 years ago and since then I have had an outbreak once every nine months...If even that. My OBGYN doesn't even want me taking Valtrex unless I have an OB I have so little of them. Should I even try any kind of treatment or just stick to what I am doing? It's not really the OB's that get me down, it's the depression that overwhelms me sometimes just from knowing I have it. It's so freaking stressful...I was just wondering if anyone had any advice. Thanks!
Ash - I do not get outbreaks (thank God!) but I am currently taking lecithin, avirol, trace minerals, lysine, VSC-TCM, garlic, COQ10, pycgenol. I use these supplements to boost my immune system. I also take Valtrex to prevent further replication of the virus in the cells. I agree with your doctor. I also do not need to take Valtrex but that was a personal decision and not a medical one. I suggest you take the supplements to optimize your immune system thereby making yourself strong enough to hopefully beat this virus one day.
Superhopeful - Okay, you are a mad scientist! Don't go too crazy now. You can have a great life with herpes so don't damage your body. Make sure you get a good liver cleanser to use soon.
positiveenergies
It's the virus that made me mad!
Positiveenergies - what will cleanse the liver???
To those of you taking lecithin: I believe you need to be taking egg yolk lecithin, not soy lecithin. Egg yolk lecithin is the substance that some of the more potent HIV drugs are derived from.
Superhopeful - I use Dr. Sebi's cell cleanser and tonic. However, you can go to the health food store and ask for a good liver cleanse. It is important to use that after Ribavirin.
positiveenergies
@prettybrowneyes. Well the day my period starts changes every month now. I normally start on the first but lately is has been ranging from the 15th and on up until the last day of the month. I have even have missed periods now. I havent even started this month yet. Oh and I have some spotting now almost every month now.
This Resolve company needs to be shut down. Not only is it a scam but it is causing serious harm to those who take it.
Here is how we will shut them down.
We will all tell Paypal what they are doing. Once they lose Paypal they wont be able to bring in any money.
If they go to another merchant we will again report them and get them shut down.
well, I just wanted to let you know that I have been talking with a homeopathic doctor and I asked him if herpes can be cured and he said herpes can be cured I assure you. So I gave him my history and he is working with me to get it out. So bayern, you may be right in adding the homeopathic step to your plan! After having such high hopes and then crashing with Resolve, I am keeping myself grounded on any proclaimed "cures"..... this does not mean I won't try certain things, but I have decided not to believe it until I see the results! That way I won't have to crash again. When I see it, I'll believe it, at least as far as a cure goes.
bayern... is the GH Capture the product that the Chines have been using in their herpes cures or is that entire product a sham?
also we can report resolve to google adwords. once they lose paypal and adwords then they will be out of business.
PrettyBrownEyes & Albeit & Anonymous G - Please refer to my hub on Resolve. You will realize that other people including me have experienced those same negative symptoms.
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
Look for post at the beginning of the hub by IBelieve and positiveenergies. I warn people about the product because it nearly killed me.
positiveenergies
gh capture is the real medicine by a pharmaceutical but it got failure in clinical trail.. after then some of the stupid people trying to do net business..but their website has been blocked by the net office in china..so the website also doesnt work.. that all i got to know by a cdc hospital in beijing.. so leave it...
yes...i am agree with homeopathy medicine it is cure but depends on the physician how much he can choose the right medicine..and its very hard job to choose right medicine to the disease in homeopathy as a homeopathy doctor said me ..any way..its great medicine,, so we have to go on with it first step by step..if we use many kind of bullet to kill a bird..i think of course,,we can get the prize on the hand..and for homeopathy medicine germany and India is the best.so...i am gonna take first step the homeopathy and other step by step for 1 year...
sorry above time2fly post is posted by me, i did mistake to type the name .. thanks
hey all : Have you heard that there was 26.000 swine flu cases in China but only 2 deaths ? Chinese people know what to use for the diseases. I wish I was living there. As I'm not there I wish Bayern would help us about what to consume and what not to consume...
All: About MPA...check this out:
http://www.rxlist.com/myfortic-drug.htm
Did you read the warning? We all have to watch each others back with what we take. I'm sure if someone gets cured again then we'll all probably all try it to see if it works for us.
I just wrapped up my second day of mms1 and mms2 protocol today and man it's really something. I burp up that nasty chlorine like taste. It's really awful. Yesterday night I had eaten some jumbo shrimp that I had prepared. After awhile I took the last of the full protocol and damn! I thought I was going to throw it all back up. I got so nauseous. It was horrible. I thought it was because I had shrimp. So, I threw that shrimp in the trash. It wasn't the shrimp though. Today while at work I took my second full protocol with the mms2 and got so nauseous that I needed to just lay down. So that's what I did. I felt better after a little less then one hour. So I got up and got lunch. No problems after that. A little while I took the protocol and was a little nauseous but that wasn't as bad. I think sometimes it's in my head. Because when I take the mms1 I get nauseous. Taking the mms2 it's not as bad. But when both together. Whoa!
Soclose: How are you doing on the protocol. We're both doing the same thing. Have you thought about not hitting it with the alcohol? But breaking out one capsel and putting it in water and maybe a little spray bottle to kill the h virus! I says that the acid it in our immune system and by putting it directly on the source, you'll be ahead of the game. Hit it as many times as you can...and again...and again...and again. If you have to submerge your monster in the water with the broken capsel in it. I don't know how much water you need. It isn't supposed to hurt either. If I have and ob I'd do the same thing. I'm going to purchase a heating pad to see how it works for me.
Bayern: Thank you for all you do.
Denni: You are funny as hell.
Do NOT take Myfortic..it's not worth developing cancer.
Hey Guys, i have not been in the hub for more than 6 months. I have had a lot of things to deal with.
I have not have an outbreak for more than 7 months, but when i had the ob i did the Lecithin 2000 mg for 3 weeks, not more than that, because i got tired, i did l-lycine for a week and i began taking resolve. QAfter taking Resolve for 13 days i felt so sick, i had stomach aches and i felt like sh..t, and my hands bottoms where pelling off, i don't know if the problem was resolve, lecythin or lycine so i decide to stop taking medicines because i realize i could kill myself in the process. I decided to change my approach and i have been boosting my inmune system by eating right, sleepeing at least 8 hours, exercising so i can get a ph of 7.8 -8 and taking E-mergen-C ( you can buy it in any store) i take it 2 times a day. Additionally, I'm taking Super Silver solution 30ppm 3 times a week.
It has been working for me and i wanted to share it in the hub, perhaps this could be a good solution until a cure is discover.
BAyern, please be careful with what you put in your body, i believe a cure for herpes is close, i will say in the next 5 years there is a lot of research going on and there a lot of companies eager to make big bucks with the cure.
Do you know that Herpes 1 (the one that causes blister in your lips) is estimated to affect 85% of the population in the world???? isn't crazy!!!!
If HSV1 is controlled by our inmune system, why not HSV2?????
Do you know that a person who has never had a genital ob, but has had blisters in the lips will test possitive HSV1????
So we need to see things from a different angle
I just read this on a homeopathy site.....anyone hear of this stuff?
Many homeopathic remedies have been known to cure genital herpes. Some of these are -
Natrum mur, Petroleum Causticum, Crot-t, Dulcamara, Graphites, Hepar-sulph, Medorrhinum, Merc-sol, Sepia, Tellurium, Thuja, Anancardium, Aur-met, Calcarea, Crot-h, Jug-r, Nit-ac, Ph-ac, Sars, Sil, Ter, Rhus-tox.
DDD: there was a chick on here named HIANDBYE?? I think..anyway she took lecithin and mms or tc(lol) for like 12days and tested neg..
Does anyone remember who I am speaking of..seem like she was expecting to see tc or was on mms and lecithin..
John Mayers playing in the background...when your dreaming with a broken heart, and waking up is the hardest part..Today me and my son went shopping and toward the end of the day long event, I was in a department and seen some mirrors..yall know the makeup mirror..the one you plug in for the lights and it swivel..anyway..I was looking in them and my heart jusst kinda broke all over again..I don't know it just kinda knocked me down for a minute..I have definately gotta start saving for some kinda cosmetic work.
Ddd and superhopeful i wrote about the 10 day valtrex cure and the lecithin cure none work I also spoke with that guy throught email I took the granules...then did the 10 day herpes cure.
Now I'm going to try mms2 only
kim...let me how are you doing?and what are you taking?
I have been researching h202 therapy and uvbi treatments and have found some in my area some do take insurance so I will be calling and setting up appointments before my insurance runs out...I'm insured under my mother and it will end when I turn 25.
Have any of u heard of the home h202 therapy? Just like mms1 but with 3% hydrogen peroxide untill you are able to get to 25 drops 3 times a day for 3-6 months...the quick 3 week cure is just like the mms1 3week cure
Has anyone heard of the method inwhich you put 3% hydrogrn peroxide in pump inhaer (the mist kind) and inhale (through the mouth not the nose) 6-8 pumps 6-8 times a day? This instanly starts to work with oxygen in your lungs..good for cold, broncittis, ashma and said to be good for herpes..sounds interesting
Tryin 2 b - : Hi. I'm doing mms1 and 2 together. 6 drops of mms1 every hour, 1 capsule mms2 every two hours for 8 hours a day. It's very hard now. I'm on the 4th day. I hope it gets easier but it doesn't seem to... I threw up a couple of times but did not drop back the dose. I want to get rid of the thing the soonest possible. I'm also taking 9000 mg lysine and lauricidin 2 scoops x 3 times a day. I gave up on lecithin because you've said that it can cancel the mms1 but I couldn't find any info on that on the net. I didn't have an ob after mms2 has arrived so I didn't apply it on any obs. I'll also have medavirs in a couple of weeks. If I have an ob I'll apply medavir first I think. Because we all know ''R'' had good results with that. But if I get an ob before medavir arrives I'll do what you say . Thanks :)
With love...
I don't think HiAndBye is negative.
Hope - You stated that
"If HSV1 is controlled by our inmune system, why not HSV2????? Do you know that a person who has never had a genital ob, but has had blisters in the lips will test possitive HSV1????"
However, those statements are incorrect and I am only pointing it out so that other hubbers do not get wrong ideas. I have HSV2 and do not get outbreaks but sometimes I may get a blister on the lips. Now, this rarely happens to me. I do not get sores on the lips. When the blister occur, I use zorivax and it goes away in a few hours. I have tested a few times and do NOT have HSV 1 but I do have HSV2.
Also HSV1 & 2 are controlled by the immune system. Don't worry, we will beat this yet.
Denni - Girl, I do not ever leave my house unless I look good. It's easy to do and it does not take any time. But most of all, it does great thing for your self-esteem. I try to keep in shape, dress nicely, and look put together. I always have and H will NOT take that away. I don't ever go out in sweats unless I am going to the gym. Life is way too short and I am just too darn cute! Always take time with you. There is only one you! Loving you is always first!
positive energies
positiveenergies : That's a great post thanks. Especially the thing you've told to Denni :)
so lets get a total of what has not worked so we can eliminate some of these things.
the valtrex cure...yes or no?
resolve hahahahhahahahahah we all know that answer.
MMS NO
ribavirin? not known yet.
what else??
I want answer people.
Hi All,
I am wanting to order Medavir but it seems I cant order it unless I am in America, when you proceed to check out on the Medavir website I can't put in my Australian address??
Can anyone help me please?? If i could get a number i could call them from Australia with that would be great, but not a toll free number as that wont work from here.
Anyone from Australia ordered Medavir??
Thanks Guys :)
Love OZ
Hi All,
I am wanting to order Medavir but it seems I cant order it unless I am in America, when you proceed to check out on the Medavir website I can't put in my Australian address??
Can anyone help me please?? If i could get a number i could call them from Australia with that would be great, but not a toll free number as that wont work from here.
Anyone from Australia ordered Medavir??
Thanks Guys :)
Love OZ
One more thing....
Can anyone tell me a legitimate website where I can order online Acyclovir from??
I am following Keeper of the faiths 6 week protocol where she was cured using: Lecithin, Lysine, Acyclovir and Medavir(only Medavir is used when Outbreaks are present).
Thanks team :)
Love Oz
Soclose: I understand about wanting to be cured. I got so sick lastnight with the last dose that I threw it up too. It was nothing else but that clear liquid that tastes like chlorine. Right after that I was fine. I just ate my dinner as usual. I thought I was going to throw it up a few days ago but didn't. I guess we'll have to stick it out for 3 wks. This is day 5 for me. I really hope this works. I can't do the actual protocol due to work and not always being by myself. I'm very active. I have to space mine out. MMS2 sometimes 3 hours apart to rid myself of the nausea. God I hate throwing up. I'll do what I need to to get rid of this thing.
1marie: If you do the mms2 you might want to follow the protocol. That is mms1 every hour for 8 hours and mms2 every 2 hours. Just be propared for it. It may not be pretty. So far 2 of us here are on it and are going through the same thing. That is Soclose and myself. Good luck with it. And please let us know when you start and if you have any problems with it. Those on it can identify with it the most. Those who inquire about will learn.
Soclose: I'm thinking about trying to bring the virus out. I'm going to get a heating pad like you do for your lower back. I'll see if that works. What do you think?
Tryin 2 b - : I surrender ! I'll go down to 4 drops of MMS1 every hour tomorrow. My life passes in the bathroom this way. I'm also attracting peoples attention at work here...
About the heating pad... I'm glad that you'll try it. I've read somewhere else that sunlight triggers the virus. All these + ''R'' s getting cured in Iraq is related I think. And you know what when I heat my back I throw up more. Hopefully it s the virus coming out and the die off reaction to it. I don't know. Just hope. I think you should definately try it. If it triggers an outbreak which you haven't had for months then we'll understand that we are on the right track. If it doesn't do what it does to me , then there is two possibilities.
1- My obs are not related with heating. They are just coincidence.
2- Heat somehow triggers the thing in me but doesn't do the same for you.
I hope it does the same for you. Because we have to keep the viruses active to be able to kill them.
I'll be waiting for the results of heat application of yours buddy. Hope it works...
With love...
POS: I am the same way..I always look good when I step out, but by the end of the day, I either look like I have a sunburn from the sweated blush or I look like I need more makeup, people hug you, you sweat, you know..Thank you for encouraging me..I won't give up, I just got a little depressd there for a minute..this too shall pass,with time everything comes to pass..
will someone write out keeper of the faiths protocal?
I will try it too.
Did she test neg?
did she have OB's
So close. I did the mms every 8 hours for 3 days ...I couldn't do it..it was so hard it seemed as if the hours flew by and it was always time to take the mms...that's why I want to try and just do the mms2..
i made my own pills poking holes into a upside down styrophone cup putting the empty pilss in and filling them 98% of the pool shock is left so if mms2 alone doesn't work I can always try again with mms1 and mms2.
i am really concerned about taking pool shock.
kird okatypuss - I will NOT do the MMS2 either. Pool shock is toxic to your system. I think a build up over time will cause something else to happen.
I am with Bayern. I will do homeopathic stuff and one day hope to knock it out.
Fat Harold - This was posted by Keeper of the Faith several days ago.
KeeperOfTheFaith says:
9 days ago
Okay, here's the scoop: I just got my blood work back... AND as I suspected, It was NEGATIVE for all STD's!!! :-) When I was tested, I never told the nurse that I had HSV 2, I just said I wanted to be tested for ALL STD's (especially herpes) to make absolutely sure I was clean of everything. Now, I know that western blood tests aren't always 100% accurate... so I'm not jumping for joy completely yet, but I'm convinced even more that I have kicked this shit out of my body. And I plan to go on with my life as if I am cured. I'm putting a lot of stock into positive thinking and as I said before, I feel or see no signs or symptoms of H and haven't for 8 moths! So that's it for me! I cannot say for sure if this will work for you though. I had a fairly low HSV count to begin with and I was only infected for about 4 or 5 months before I started taking anything. I would say it's worth a try.
So here's what I did and the dosage I took everyday for six weeks:
Lecithin: 2 x 1200mg per day (sorry Sociose, I only took 2400mg a day but I'm sure if you take 3000mg it could only help.
Lysine: 2 x 500mg per day.
Acyclovir: 2 x 200mg per day.
MedAvir: I applied only to OB's (when present) 3 times a day.
Pretty cheap and easy stuff to get and take. No harmful side effects... I felt nothing unusual when I was on these meds.
I really wish you all the best in finding a cure! I know you will! If my situation changes, I'll be back to let you know... Take care and God bless!
PS... TrueCures, you are an idiot!
End of quote
Well, I did not test. Prepaidlabs does not operate in NY & NJ. Prepaidlabs charges $40 but other labs charge $79. Now, I know I still have herpes and am not willing to spend $79 to have that told to me. I was hoping to do a more scientific analysis with the supplements by monitoring my progress. H is expensive and that $79 can go into buying more supplements on the road to good health and total freedom from H. I will test when I have absolutely no symptoms.
Good luck all.
positive energies
All,
Here is the homeopathic magic potion I am now taking daily:
DMSO - 60 oxygen drops daily
2 Garlic Tablets (concentrated garlic kills all viruses)
Trace Minerals - 1o drops
Lysine - 1000 mg daily
Oil of Oregano - 5 drops
I am asymptomatic and just need to kill it internally.
Ava.... please do not try yo come up with a homeopathic remedy on your own. Find a reputable homeopathic doc who believes he/she can cure you from this virus. I am not working with one in person, but instead an Indian Homeopathic doc online. A remedy may be different for each person depending on different things about you. The list of homeopathic remedies you listed are some of the ones I have been told will be used in my cure but I do not know the concentrations or amount of doses or anything and what might be for me could be very different for you. I have been on the ABC forum. It is a little aggravating using a forum to talk back and forth with a doc, but it has been free beside the purchasing of the remedies.
Ava- after I posted I saw you newest post!! We were writing at the same time. Your list of stuff is not homeopathic, they are natural remedies. The homeopathic remedies are diluted concentrations of different things that are actually the issue (like a diluted concentration of mercury is merc sol)
I think your list of stuff is a great immunity builder and can't hurt you at all, I just don't believe it will cure you.
Time2fly - what should I be taking?
Time2fly - can you give me the homeopathic contact you have and I will contact him as well. Thanks.
Hi sorry, just a couple of questions. Someone mentioned that lecithin causes cancer? Is that over a long period of time? I was thinking of starting keeperoffaiths remedy to try it out. Also, is there a difference using MedAvir as opposed to dynamiclear? I've seen alot of good reviews of dynamiclear and how it reduces OB's as well.
Oz, you can get acyclovir from any MD's in your area. Its not a difficult drug to get your hands on.
Time2fly, could I also get in touch with your homeopathic contact online? I'm from Asia and its not easy to find a decent one here.
Bayern, to be frank, China has a lot of potential to get a cure. But there's also alot of quacks so please be careful.
To those taking MMS1 and MMS2, please be careful. Have read alot of testimonials on the dangers of it.
Good luck all, hope we'll beat it.
Jackbig...yes i am agree with you..so i am with my chinese real physician and he has told me that he is with me until i be cured..so i am gonna use homeopathy first from the india then chinese herbs then multivitamins with lycine and minerals at last MMS then get test hope to be negative....
Ava.. let me know where you are gonna get the homeopathy.. we can move on together ,, take care
just seems like all these homeopaths i have talked to say 'no problem' but give no results.
Only thing I get rid of is another $500.
bayern, I need to find a homeopathic doctor first....does anyone have someone I can talk to on the phone?
yes you can talk to them from india..i will email you the phone number..what do you think about biogetica?
AVA
if you drive up Dunlavy there is a chinese place there that says they have cures for virus's.
Its right around grey and dunlavy in a old bungalow type house.
close to lubys and the UPS store.
fat harold.. can you give me that chinese site. please?
correction.
it is on shepherd close to the irish pub.
will get the phone number later today.
Thanks Fat Harold...I will call them when you get the number...and go there. I am sooooo ready...
Soclose and ALL: I just cut my mms2 in half. It got to be too much for my stomache to handle. I just dumped out half of the capsels. I do feel much better when taking them. I hope it works with half. I can't throw up again.
ava and ALL: I think garlic is good for the body and it does get rid of virus'. I almost single handedly got rid of one of the plagues. It shouldn't be too bad to try.
Tryin 2 b - yes, garlic is a miracle wonder. So many things are cured by garlic. I recommend everyone take it. You don't even need a swine flu shot - take garlic!
Tryin 2 b - : That's good what you did. MMS people tell the users to stop making themselves sick with big doses. I've also went back to 4 drops of mms1 every hour.
Ava and all : Garlic is wonderful. I used to put in in fruit juices because I didn't like the taste. These people claim to cure AIDS in Africa with garlic, lemon, olive oil and ginger. It's interesting. And it was the main reason for me to try garlic for h...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Ha74AbApY&feature
You can find the other movies of the same serie next to this video.
With love...
I have been chatting with a doc on the ABC Homeopathy forum. The one I have been corresponding with is Dr. Bagyavasan.k on the ABC forum. Hi spofile gave a website for his hospital to but I have only been working with him no cost on the forum. He just told me to get belladonna 30 and arnica 30 and that we will use them when I get a OB... he said it is difficult to get to the cellular level but we will.
Time2fly - can I do the same treatment as you? Will you keep me updated on your treatment...thanks.
713-529-8332 is the number.
oh lord!
Check out this site for some real SHOCKING info. If you cannot click on link, copy and paste in browser.
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/h1n1flu/
Scroll to the bottom of the page and download
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Look at the company #50. Sounds familiar?
positiveenergies
Fat Harold - thanks ...I will call them tomorrow. I think there is something to this Chinese Medicine approach.
Soclose: Thanks bro for the link. It was very useful. If you still get sick try to cut down on the mms2 it might be that that gets you sick not nessarily the mms1.
All: I just found this link for alternate treatments as far as cancer. It's really something. Just watch the first video. It's about 38mins though. Just skip the commercials. Way down at the bottom of the page it talks about mms 2/1.
http://www.djsadhu.com/category/research/health-fo
EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH. THE MORE INFO WE ALL HAVE IN OUR DAILY LIVES THE BETTER OFF WE BECOME.
Try2b Yes it make,s you wonder after seeing vidio,s like that,CAN WE BEAT THESE PEOPLE, ie big pharma, fda, and the rest of the scumbags out there. they,ve got big big money, and as we all know money talks.... There,s been a cure out there for years i,m sure of it, but with the money they make, and the power they have, where just like putty in there hands. Yes where making a stand, Yes where putting up a fight,but it,s like the local women,s institute facing the roman army.
Ava.. did you talk to some about homeopathy.. there are many but i cant choose to order which one is the best.. i am still keeping my eyes on the biogetica.. they sound great and i even try to add much best product with their kits herpes freedom....but we all should realize that it takes time using homeopathy...as they explained
Bayern - I placed an order with Biogetica back in Auguust and they have not shipped out the product. Right now, I have an on-going dispute with them. They have verified that the product was not delivered by the US Postal Service but they have not credited my account. I have contacted paypal but they suggested that I resolve this issue directly with Biogetica. I have numerous e-mail to Biogetica about this problem but they usually ignore e-mails or are very irregular in their responses. I do not recommend them. I think that they are unprofessional and do not have a reliable supply of product to access. I will not be doing business with them again.
positiveenergies
positiveenergie.....did you also give phone call to them?if not you can call them, as i know that is well establish company..and should have some technical problems.. any way sorry to hear that...but we have no choice ,so i am gonna try once their product as first step on my schedule..and at the same time i am also adding some extra homeopathy products with this together that can help to decrease my stress and other symptoms.
Update - so far so good. Lecithin seems to be doing a good job. No pronomdromes and no OB's. Will take it for 6 weeks and see what comes out of it. Best treatment that I have taken so far!
Has anyone heard of Famvir and if so is it any good??
Thanks Team :)
bayern and Fat Harold, are you both doing biogetica? Which kit did you buy?
Fat Harold - did you call that Chinese Medicine place yet? I have not because I have been too busy.
DDD- how often do you get OB;s?
AVA- no havent called them yet. Right now I am just taking resvertol.
DDD are you using soy or egg yolk lecithin?
are you using granules?
Denny where have you been? You were once our guiding light?
Soclose, thanks for the video. I’ve started taking a mixture of Garlic, Ginger, Lemon, Honey and Apply Vinegar twice a day (1 tablespoon).
Also, am on Vit C, Lysine, Milk Thistle, Vit B, Ginseng and Fish Oil. Am trying to avoid suppressants if possible but think Lysine acts as a suppressant right?
Tryin 2 b - : I'm ok with the doses right now. 5 drops mms1 each hour, 1 mms2 every 2 hours. I think my body got used to both. Thanks for the video btw. We all know what is goin on with the cures but we lack the power the stop this cruel approach. They are watching people die ! ! ! I can't believe... This means there is also the cure for h out there and they're suppressing it as well. We'll beat it. I always say that. Thanks again.
Jackbig : You're welcome. We are all fighting the same enemy. I also want to try that mixture of garlic, ginger, lemon and olive oil but as I'm on mms1&2 I have to watch my vit c intake. After mms I will do that immediately.
I'm not sure lysine is a suppressant. I was thinking like you at the beginning but I had obs during lysine 9000 mg a day. So it probably has different benefits. It prevents the replication of the virus for sure I think, which is good for all of us. I'm goin on consuming lysine 9000 mg a day. I'll let you about how it goes.
Keeperofthefaith : which type of lecithin did you use ? egg or soy ot any other if there is ? Could you please give your e-mail address so that we can reach you when you do not come to hubs? We need help :)
With love...
Google Pine cone + herpes . It has actual research behind it and not just anonymous testimonials.
PS very few people on this site are equipped with a BS meter.
Jackbig - Everything you are taking now will help build up the immune system. When the immune system is optimized, you will get fewer and fewer outbreaks and the virus may become dormant. Eradication of the virus may occur after this.
Bill - I take pine everyday. It is sold as Pycnogenol. It prevents replication and is a fantastic anti-oxidant. Dosage depends on your body weight. I have been taking it since July and it gives a burst of energy. Here is some research on it -
http://www.nih.go.jp/JJID/61/279.pdf
In order to become cured, we have to 1) cleanse out toxins from the body on a cellular level, 2) use a great anti-oxidant like CQ10 & pycnogenol to protect the cells, 3) and prevent replication of the virus. And of course, take whatever magic bullets that works for us.
When I first contracted H, I started detoxifying my body immediately. I didn't even know I had H, I just knew that I should not be feeling that way so, I detoxed everyday for weeks. Well, I never got another outbreak. I still detox on a very regular basis. I strongly believe that detoxification is the main key to eradicating outbreaks. It certainly worked for me. Even today, I just started another detoxifying protocol for the next few weeks.
Hubbers - I added something to my protocol on Oct 16 that is simply amazing. I will tell about it when I feel negative and test negative. I just want us all to continue to do what we are doing so, we can conclusively say what does or does not work.
Good luck.
positive energies
I am taking soy lecithen at the moment. Its working great. I used to get two OB's month and now I feel completely normal. Going to continue this for 6 weeks and then stop all together. Then we will see the truth. But even taking this every day is not bad. It is a great supplement for the brain and body and if I never get an outbreak, then I am satisfied! People with out H take this everyday for the other benefits all the time. If I don't get an OB during the time that I am on the Lecithen, then I will be at peace.
Pos - what detox method do you use?
Hopeful1- I use Dr. Sebi's detox.
positiveenergies
hey guys did someone try ravo zapper or one of these products and combinate this threatment with eating lecithy,l-lysin,zinc,and garlic pills?
ok family...i ordered biogetica with some extra boost therapy.. and i talked to the chinese hospital again.Dr ming said me the they have many succes case but should visit their hospital.. and may use injection if need...sound look great but much expensive as i guess.. any way i do it in my 2nd step treatment...
positiveenergies, yeah I'm also trying to boost up my immune system. But I think the missing link for me is the actual "kill" remedy. Haven't really found a good combination of killer drugs to eradicate the virus.
Looking at the combinations everyone's on (besides those involving MMS1 and MMS2), everything seems to be immune boosters. Don't really see how it could eradicate the virus though. Think we need something to actually hit the virus directly while also keeping our immune system flying high.
Jackbig: I 2nd that motion...
Positiveenergies: Could you please elaborate on your experiences with Pycnogenol please? Also, how often are your OBs with no suppressants?
Thanks,
Super
Just a thought...
Some supressants will always only be supressants. But some supressants, in higher doses, may become cures. I think this is possible... dosage could be a factor.
Super
Hey POS.
so have you had any OB's since using PINE?
How often do you have OB's?
and TC if you rear your ugly head under another name like that lord platypuss stunt you pulled I will tear it off!!!!!!!!!!!
Large Marge - I have HSV 2. I have only had 1 outbreak - the initial outbreak and that's it. I do not get outbreaks - Thank God!
Pine or Pycnogenol is a great anti-oxidant for the cells and it prevents replication of the HIV and HERPES virus. I also use CQ10 which does the same thing.
If you are getting outbreaks, I suggest you use Lysine, Lecithin, St. John's Wort, Avirol, Garlic capsules, Trace Minerals, VSC-TCM and Valtrex. You also definitely need to get a good cleanser. I suggest the following cleanser -
http://www.traceminerals.com/products/antitox.html
I usually buy part 1 and supplement it with a fiber product. I find it to be an amazing cleanser and have used this product on and off about 15 years. The key to no outbreaks is cleansing out toxins, taking supplements and keeping the nerves calm.
I know it sounds like a lot but Herpes cure is a journey and you are already moving towards your destination. Take care.
positive energies
SuperHopeful - I don't get outbreaks. I have been taking pycnogenol since July. Dosage is dependent on your weight. I find that it makes me alert and responsive but not hyper. You will not find any immediate drastic improvements in your condition but know that it is working on a cellular level, and overtime you will experience its effects. It works like CQ 10. I just take them both because it think the Herpes virus needs blasting with both guns.
Jack Big - I do not believe anyone on this hub have narrowed down the herpes silver bullet. But at least we now have a list of supplements that really work on this virus.
The supplements that I believe worked have also worked for Keeper of the Faith (cured) and Echelon. Your immune system will eventually kill this virus. I have tried MMS but it smells awful and I just can't take it. If you can, then kudos to you but I think I will stay away from it until someone is cured.
Be patient with your protocol and your immune system will do the job it was designed to do. Do you know that there are people who have tested postive with HIV and their immune system have cured them? There is much more hope for Herpes. This is a journey - take a step every day.
positive energies
Positive energies how often do you test? If seems liike you use or have used a lot of supplements...I'm just starting to get fed up with this virus I am just positive my life would be different better if I didn't have this I just know my lifestyle and who I choose to be with would be different.
We can be negative for H, but according to all the doctors that I have spoken with, when doing the IGG blood test, we will still have a positive test due to fact that we have the antibodies in our blood system.
I do believe that a natural remedy is going to work the best
I see a lot of cell therapy and body oxidation things in whole foods and I wonder about those things... I will try if I get some money they each cost around 30 bucks... anyone ever seee the news a while ago about the guy wwho had cancer and hiv and when he got a bone marrow transplant his hiv started to cure? What is the formula to herpes cure?
1Marie - Oprah did a show on Monday about some women who contracted HIV from their playboy boyfriend, who was having multiple relationships at the same time. One relationship lasted 4 years, another 2+ years. They suspect he may have infected a few hundred women with HIV. Some of the women were very mature in 40's, 50's and even 60's. None of the women fit the profile of a person with HIV. They were previously married some for 20 years and were not promicuous etc. The man was eventually charged and sentenced for 45 years. The charge - Assualt with a deadly weapon. His blood was the weapon. The show concluded with this tidbit from Oprah - Anyone can get an STD as long as they are unlucky enough to come into contact with someone with the virus. Of course, she said use a condom. Unfortunately, Herpes is transmitted via skin contact so even using a condom may not have helped us. All our lives will be different if we had not contracted Herpes but we have. Now, let's do something about it!
I got really tired about having herpes in July and decided that I was going to throw everything at it. And I did and somethings worked admirably. Also, by doing so I improved my immune system and was able to eradicate 98% of the symptoms I was experiencing.
Even though, I did not get outbreaks, I still experienced symtpoms such as discharge, persistent itching, herpes virus travelling along the nerves etc. Now, 98% of all those symptoms are gone and I credit that to detoxing and taking ALL those supplements. There is no overnight herpes cure so I plug away at H daily. Inch by inch I am reclaiming my body and every cell in my body.
I have 2% symptoms to eradicate now and then I will work on maintaing the 100% total H symptom free that I have.
You have to commit to your cure. I see the end and I see myself fully cured very soon.
We can Win - When you have absolutely no symptoms, the antibody levels will drop and you will test negative via IGg. Other have and so will you. Take care
"Right focus brings about reality" (Buddha)
"The Journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step" (Confucius)
positive energies
Hey POS, how did it go with the Ribivirin?
i have a horrible OB going on so I am going ot go to the infusion center here in houston and see how well this IV of C works.
If it kills it fast then at least we know it is anti viral.
Fat.. i personally suggest you that, you should start your biogetica as you already got it..you can take whatever other including biogetica..
those who are taking vitamin C... please dont forget to drink too much water in regular time.. it can produce kidney stone if you cut down driking water....
Wow positiveenergies, you really are whacking it with everything you can get your hands on!! Kudos to you mate.
Think I'll add on soy based Lecithin, Pycnogenol and CQ10 to my daily supplements which are already almost off the top haha.
Positiveenergies could you share the actual mg's of each supplement you're on?
Currently I'm on 2 x 2000mg Vit C, 2 x 600mg Lysine, 1 x 100mg Fish Oil, 1 x 1000mg Vit B Complex, 1 x 1 teaspoon powdered pure Korean Ginseng, 1 x 500mg Milk Thistle and Dandelion extract, 2 x tablespoons of mixture of garlic + ginger + lime juice + apple vinegar. I also drink like 6 glasses of Green Tea a day which acts as a strong anti-oxidant as well as to improve metabolism which I assume will help circulate the supplements more thoroughly through my system.
I'm also considering taking 2 x 400mg Acyclovir daily on top of CQ10, Lecithin and Pycnogenol on top of that. Just wanted to know what's a reasonable mg to consider.
Also, just wondering if anyone can give me some personal advice on Acyclovir on top of my consumption above. Do you think it will act as a suppresant? Meaning, will it give me worst OB's once I stop taking it? Also, do you think my body be too depended on it? I'm also concern that I will build immunity for it over a longer term and it won't be as effective in future? Currently I'm avoiding taking it for fear of all this. And I wanted a more natural remedy to treating the big H.
Kathleen, just wondering how's your Vit C and UBVI coming along? Haven't heard from you in awhile. Hope all's well!
I think We Can Win is right in that the IGG counts will always be positive once we have H as our body will always have the antibodies for it. You have to test for it directly to know if you're negative or not.
Anyway, good luck again everyone and lets work towards finding a good mix to rid this virus.
Thanks POS. the Lysing is good, one other amino acid to decrease is Arginine. It is food for H. Look it up and see all the food groups that it comes in and make sure that you have serveral times the amount of Lysing vs Arginine. I pray that we will all be winners!!!
Kim...........!!!! where are you? i wanna give you very important suggection, i know you are tired but you should keep smile and we are close to cure.. contact with me email me...ok? you are special for me ....
jackbig: My treatments of Vitamin C IV's and Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation are going well. I am greatly concerned that I am unable to afford them as steadily as I had planned. It's $200 each time and I am unemployed. So far I am averaging one treatment each week, so hopefully by the first week of December I will have had 10 treatments, upon which I will test and I will post my results on this hub. If I am still positive, then I will continue my weekly treatments until I am negative. Then I will just get maintenance treatments, perhaps one every six months.
Also, I bought a book that is called: A Holistic Protocol for The Immune System, by Scott J. Gregory, O.M.D. This book is wonderful. It outlines a four step process to eradicate herpes, on page 94. The four steps are: 1. Eliminate the Pathogens by Utilizing Non-Toxic Virucides, 2. Detoxify the Body by Ridding It of Metabolic Wastes, 3. Increase Cellular Metabolism to Energize the Body, and 4. Repair the Cells to Rebuild the Immune System.
Some of the items for Eliminating the Pathogens:
ozone therapy
X-40 Kit
Biovirox
Essia
LDM-100
H202
Laurisine
garlic
Some of the items for Detoxify:
Cell Guard - S.O.D.
Tea Tree Oil
Ester-C
L-Lysine
Viricidin
bio-oxygenation therapy
Mega-Zyme
White Oil
Some of the items for Increasing Cellular Metabolism:
germanium
Staff of Life Enzymes
Light Force Spirulina
Immune Pack
Km
Raw Adrenal Complex
Nutrejuva
Some of the items for Repairing the Cells:
Zinc
Gold Stake
Vigorin
black currant seed oil
Reishi mushroom
This book is very good, very interesting. I don't know what some of these items are, but they are in the book.
Good luck everyone.
JackBig - I am 5ft 4ins, 125lbs and I take a LOT, LOT of supplements but the cocktail works for me. I take the following dosages:
Pycnogenol - 3 tabs (180mg each) 1 daily
COQ 10 - 1 capsule (400mg) 1 daily
Lysine - 2 capsules (1000mg) 2x daily
Lecithin - 1 capsule (1200mg) 2x daily (sometimes 3x daily)
VSC-TCM - 3 capsules 2x daily
Trace Minerals - 3 tabs 1x daily
Milk Thistle - 2 softgels ((250mg) 2x daily
Olive Leaf capsules - 1 capsule (30 %oleuropein) 2x daily
Garlic - 2 softgels (5000mg) 2x daily
St. John's Wort - 3 capsules (450mg) 2x daily (contains hypericin)
Avirol - 1 tablet (250 mg) 2x daily (when I remember)
Pycnogenol, COQ 10 - are anti-oxidants, protect cells and prevent replication
Lysine - prevents cold sores -herpes
Milk Thistle - protects liver
VSC-TCM - to eradicate the Herpes virus
St. John's Wort - for nerves, also helps eradicate H virus
Avirol - to capture any free roaming virus, also good for immune system
Trace Minerals - immune system
Garlic - anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial
Olive Leaf - prevents replication, anti-viral, anti-bacterial
I still take most of these supplements daily. I started taking all these supplements when I got fed up with the virus tenacious hold on me so, I threw everything at the sucker. It worked and I have not stopped.
I suggest you design your own protocol and pay attention to your body.
Fat Harold - I was never a good candidate for Ribavirin in the first place because I never got OBs. Ribavirin needs an active OB to work. It needs a flare up of the virus. I simply do not get enough viral activity to warrant taking Ribavirin. Maybe Superhopeful would be better able to access that drug. Sorry about your OB.
positive energies
We Can Win - This virus works differently on everyone. I eat nuts, ice-cream, chocolate and have never gotten an OB from it. I think that may be because I detox so regularly. Who knows with this darn virus! Good luck and good health!
positiveenergies
There was a link I found on here about a yr ago. It shows the top 10 research methods for a potential cure. The Florida st research was on the list. If anybody has access to it, can you please post it. TY
I love this hub ! We are all working hard to win the fight and I'm sure we will !
Kathleen : Thanks for the 4 step formula. Lots of useful information :)
Positiveenergies : Thanks a lot for sharing you protocol. Though most of the things you take are dietary supplements instead of medicine, I suggest you to have your liver function tested periodically. Because you are consuming too much. I also was planning to take anything that gives harm to H but I decided to do that in an order . You may be right to take them all and it seems that you are successful but please be careful.
With love...
SoClose - Thanks for your concern. I always take a liver cleanse. I know a lot about detoxing - I have been doing successfully for about 20 years. Some herbs works together beautifully and maybe that's why I am getting great results. Herpes is sometimes shown to be a immunocompromised opportunistic virus. The first step in the healing process should be detox, and then optimize the immune system. I must be doing something right because something's working. Thank God! But I am not successful in maintaining an alkaline body. That is so difficult for me. Have you tried that?
positiveenergies
positiveenergies - Thank you for the advice, it is GREATLY appreciated! :)
positiveenergies : I'm glad to hear that you are doing liver cleanse. I've not done any detoxes actually but I'm planning to go on a detox camp for one week. The camp includes all types of cleanses.
There are lots of information on the net about detox processes but h is a special condition so I'd really appreciate if you could share which herbs did work for you liver cleanse. I'd also like to know what types of detoxes you've had and how.
I've read on the hubs about biogetica and I think it was you trying to keep the body alkaline. I haven't tried that yet. I'll be waiting for your advices about my detox journey :)
With love...
thanks DDD I really like the site.
how long has it been since your last OB?
you get them once a month ?
SoClose - I highly recommend the following anti-toxin
cleanser
http://www.traceminerals.com/products/antitox.html
You should get great resutls from it.
positiveenergies
DDD - Thanks for that link. I contracted chicken pox within 1 year of migrating to the US. Most of the people from my country do NOT get chicken pox, therefore the Herpes virus is extremely low and about 98% of the population has never heard of Herpes. Same for HPV but we do have HIV. BTW, we also don't get measles/mumps that much either. There are many countries where the H virus is not as prevalent as it is in the US and Europe.
positive energies
DDD: Thanks the site was encouraging.
positiveenergies: Where are you from?
DENNI !!!!!!!!! where have you been?????
Soclose what's your email?
Hi hubbers! Just wanted to give you some background on Garlic. Both Cali and I are taking 2,500 mg of concentrated garlic everyday. I believe this could help me expel this virus. Good luck!
Garlic is the number one antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal, and all around anti-pathogen herb. Garlic contains over 80 sulfur compounds, many of which are used to create sulfa drugs. Unfortunately for pharmaceutical companies, nature already has the perfect sulfa drug in the form of garlic. This natural drug is more powerful and more effective than any pharmaceutical, and does not have any of the side effects. Garlic is thus an excellent herbal cure for herpes.
Garlic will penetrate throughout every part of the body. If you eat garlic, the body will use it where it is needed. A nursing mother can eat garlic, nurse her baby, and you will be able to smell the garlic on the baby's breath. Garlic goes everywhere in the body, and that is a good thing.
http://www.all4naturalhealth.com/herbal-treatments
A Healthy Body Will Expel Viruses
Isn't it curious how some people can come in contact with a virus like herpes and not get infected, while other people are extremely susceptible? Some people with the virus may suffer from frequent outbreaks, while others may suffer from minimal outbreaks.
Well, the difference between these groups of people is that some of them are slightly healthier and have slightly stronger immune systems than the others. They are thus strong enough to fight off viruses part of the way, but then collapses after some thing because they are too weak.
You cannot eliminate a virus from a body with some drugs when the body is so weak that it is a breeding ground for the virus. An unhealthy person's cells are a feasting ground for viruses. The medical conclusion that herpes is incurable is based on a population that is unhealthier than it has ever been.
Take personal responsibility for your health, rise above the average, and you will experience the difference.
A body with powerful health will expel all pathogens, including herpes.. As your health increases, the frequency, severity, and duration of outbreaks will decrease. When the body reaches a certain level of health, it will expel the virus altogether. Using herbal treatments for herpes can help, and nature's antiviral herbs can be used to move this process along.
http://www.ehow.com/way_5495394_holistic-treatment
acva: Thanks for that. I'm hoping that I'm currently getting rid of this virus. I have been taking garlic...not as much though. I'll increase tomorrow. I only ob every 5 months. It's clockwork. Thanks again.
Thanks Ava!! I will increase my garlic intake as well..
FAT HAROLD!! Check this out:
I was prescribed calcium phosphate tissue salt tablets 4X daily for assistance in healing a broken collarbone. After taking these for 6 months I was surprised to find all herpes symptons had disappeared and have been able to stop taking Valtrex which I had been quite seriously dependent on for several years.
I think a combination like Keeper of the Faith's is the way to go..I am about to incorporate garlic, lecithin, acyclovir, calcium and magnesium and zinc..
I have been reading the comments and also agree that keeping your immune system strong is the way to go.
Those of you who take garlic..do you take regular garlic or orderless garlic...It seems that is very large amounts, you would smell heavily of garlic...
vsc-tcm is that a specific chinese supplement by Natures Sunshine?
Thanks Positive Energies..your posts have been very positive and upbeat.
I want to take responsibility for where I am in my life and do whatever I can to make it better.!!
tryin 2 b - my e-mail is
okansezgin1987@gmail.com
you can also add me on msn
okan.sezgin@hotmail.com
Those of you who are using mms1... I really believe in garlic's benefits as an antiviral. But garlic has vitamin c in it which reduces the effect of mms1. So I 'm thinking of getting garlic after I finish mms1 treatment. Here you can see what garlic has in it :
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice
with love...
Sorry, I typed my name wrong....it's AVA and not AVCA.
Garlic is a medical miracle. Take it and you will see results. I believe in its medicinal properties.
Take the odorless kind. You can buy it at Walgreen's in a yellow box made my Nature Made. It costs $11 for a box of 100 tablets. Take one in the morning and one at night for 2,500 mg. This is the equivalent of one concentrated garlic clove.
Ava - Thanks for that info. I have had great results from garlic. I do believe we are narrowimg down the supplements that really make a difference.
Trying 2 B - I am from a caribbean island with universal health care. I guess we are just not susceptible/exposed to some viruses as other places. Do you know that the Japanese have a very low HIV infection rate? I guess it's all about location, location, location. Take care.
positive energies
i have garlic pills I can't even remember why I bought them..but I stopped taking them because they make you breath stink, like stink for hours lol . I think I will restart after reading that post.
Go to www.hsv-free.com basically its a website that proves ozone therapy is a cure...all people infected with genital herpes got 1-5 injections and all were cured. Apparently this therapy has been used for years if you research it...but ozone therapy is illegal in the USA.
Denni
what brand calcium phosphate did you take? Was the dosage 1 tablets x 4 a day for a total of 4 tablets or 4 tablets x 4 a day for a total of 16 tablets? I want to order some but not sure about the protocol that you used thanks in advance
Is there a protocol for using silver shield and tcm vs-c?
tcm did nothing for me.
silver might be good though.
right no what i am using pycnoginal and reservatol and i am going to add garlic.
1marie - you need to buy the Odorless garlic concentrated tablets made by Nature Made. A yellow box of 100 tablets cost around $11 and you can buy these at Walgreen or Kroger.
By the way, before big-pharma entered the picture, Garlic and Lysine were used together to treat HSV.
So, there is merit in this treatment plan.
Good luck!
Fat-Harold
How long did you use VS-c and was it the gel or the pills. I am trying to find how how to do the treatment as in how often do i take the silver shield over the 5 day period, etc.
well i had been taking it for about 10 days and was taking four pills in teh morning. It was teh TCM and was solid pills.
Ten days into it I got a huge OB. I know it takes time but this stuff didnt even fight it off at all.
Thanks Fat-Harold I appreciate the comments
This Bavituximab looks very promising!!
I was looking at Ebay and came across this... interesting... from Germany.
Superhopeful: I purchased that remedy about a year ago. It did absolutely nothing.
superhopeful
I bought the kit you see on Ebay.
In fact I bought 3 and used 2.
Sorry but it didnt do anything and I even talked with one of the doctors who worked on it.
Didnt do a thing for me.
Bayern,
send me an email let me now how you are doing friend
anyone have a detailed protocol for silver shield and TCM
Hey all : I have finished 11 sessions of UVBI treatments. the test came back pos for hsv1 with 4.5 of IgG. The doc says it will take some time for the numbers to drop. We are going to do one session a week for some more time.
Well I'm patient. I've done lots of things. Something will work for sure. Now I'm waiting for mms1&2 treatment to finish. When I finish them I'm planning on garlic,ginger, lemon and olive oil cocktail to boost the immune sys.
Does anybody here have contact with R or Keeperofthefaith ? I really wonder how r they doing ?
With love...
never2late4hope.....you came back to the hub after a long time,,i really miss you and gave you email but never got reply..please never go away,, we should find a cure..and i will email you what and how i am going on with, take care
i may have the one box left if anyone wants it.
Fat Harold - Do you drink coffee? 1 cup of coffee has the ability of eroding weeks of progress from my body. I succumbed to a cup on Sunday and I am still paying the price. I am now experiencing a small amount of viral related nerve movement in my body. So, now I am trying to reverse that. If you drink coffee on a daily basis then it may be accountable for your outbreaks etc.
positiveenergies
Pos: What you said is so true..I suffer alot because of coca cola and chocolate..I figure if something is truly working we should be able to enjoy triggers ..without the side effects.
I got 2 questions... first, what happened to Kim?
Two, Viral shedding question.. Okay, say a guy had an OB on the bottom of his penis. like where his hair follicles are located on the base of the penis. It was a very small area where the ob was. Alright, even though the guy don't have OBs at all, when viral shedding is happening, does viral shedding affect the whole genital area (penis, Scrotum, Groin, thigh area even bottom stomach area) or just the area that the initial OB was at do it just shed at that particular area? Reason asking is because I had sex with a girl when I had a sore on the bottom of my penis but we didn't know it was herpes and I got tested and found out I had HSV-1 on the genital, but she don't got anything.. So that's why I ask, can you guys please inform me on that? Cause I seen on sites where they said the shedding occurs where the OB is located, then I seen where the whole area from penis, scrotum, anus, thigh etc is affect.
Also people can you get HSV-1 through Vaginal sex? Because I didn't have oral sex when I got it.. So I'm thinking the person who gave it to me, had HSV-1 on the genitals and spread it to me.. since they saying most genital herpes infection are coming from HSV-1 and HSV-2 are decreasing in new infection... Just trying to figure out how could I gotten this disease
verydepreSs: I don't think you can have hsv1 on genitals. I got hsv1 from my gf and became hsv1 and hsv2 on my body. If you get hsv1 through your genitals or the area close to your genitals then you have hsv2. That is my story... I have never been exposed to hsv2 but I have them both.
hey others what do you think ?
With love...
soclose, yes you can get HSV-1 on the genitals.. it's called GHSV-1.. Majority of new cases come from HSV-1. That's what the doctor diagnosis me with.. GHSV-1 but the question was can you get it through Vaginal sex.. cause I can remember getting oral sex perform on me.. I did my research and yes you can get it vaginally as well as orally. I have herpes for 2 years and only had 3-4 OB's so I guess that is really good. I still get the shedding symptoms periodically. But outbreaks man I haven't had many and all the partners I had still don't got it. I don't used meds or used condoms with the girl I'm with now. She got oral herpes. she haven't yet to be affected. I read sometimes its impossible for a person with GHSV-1 to infect. I pray I never infect her, she knows and we took precaution when it felt like I was finna have an outbreak
AVA
go to whole health associates on vermont in 77006.
Ask them for thir garlic. Thehy have this potent 5000mg garlic from standard process which is far better than what you would get from walgreens.
Denni - You are so right. I realize that even though the coffee triggered some viral related nerve movement, I did not have half as many symptoms as I did before. Something is working so I guess we just have to keep up with the supplements. We learn a little about H every single day.
Fat H & Ava - I also take Puritan's Pride garlic at 5000mg.
positive energies
SoClose & Very Depress - You can get HSV1 on the genitals and HSV2 on the lips/mouth. However, the outbreaks appear differently. HSV1 is not as painful on the genitals similiarly HSV2 is not as painful on the lips etc.
Very Depress - HSV is transmitted via skin contact therefore it is transmitted when there is an OB or viral shedding. Please ask your friend to get tested. If you are going to be intimate then you should not have intercourse when you have an active outbreak and you should also consider Valtrex or some other anti-viral to protect transmission during shedding. Please confer with your doctor about this. Also, check out this link. It answers all your questions.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/STDFact-herpes.htm
positive energies
positiveenergy
I didn't know it was herpes til after it start getting kinda worse.. So I went to the doctor and got tested positive for herpes.. So trust me I don't have sex when a sore appears.. I was confused because some sites said that shedding occurs in areas where the actually outbreak were located.. that's why I was asking you guys to be on the safe side.. So basically when shedding.. the whole genital area is infected? not just where the sore appears at?
Just thought I would stop by to give an update... I decided to not test again. Since my last Positive test, I have not tested again. I am due for my annual Pap, so I should be testing again in the upcoming weeks.
I am very content with myself. I am still dating the girl I spoke about in my last post, and we have unprotected sex all the time. She loves me for me and is willing to take the risk. Yes, she does know the risks since she is a nurse. I have had unprotected sex with 4 women since being infected and none were given the virus. I truly believe that I am asymptomatic.
I guess it was hard for me to deal with since I was single before. I eventually wanted a family and thought that was taken from me, but I guess there are some good people out there. Do not give up for those searching for love and have HSV. If someone loves you, they are willing to work through it.
I do not have any OB's, and the tingle that I had for a while went away. I did notice that I get a lot of yeast infections since taking Resolve. Other than that, there is nothing new going on. For those who think my last test was a false positive, I would love for that to be true, but in all honesty... I can feel it inside me. I know that I still have it. No I do not have any OB's, but I know that I have it. It is hard to explain, but I know how my body feels. I never had a yeast infection before Resolve. I have never been so tired as I am since being infected with HSV. I just know and that is all there is to it.
Anyway, sorry for the typos. I have been extremely busy with work and my personal life. I just wanted to let everyone know that I am still alive and doing very well.
I hope everyone is doing well and hanging in there. I will post updates every so often. I am guessing I should retest in November, but we will see.
I guess the cruise was a joke...
just making a quick post went 3 weeks OB free,,,until yesterday..so I STILL HAVE HERPES Going on year 26..herpes must really be for life?? heck it took half of mine already..i'll be 50 soon and have had this since jut before i turned 23...so there ru go..OB OB OB OB OB OB OB OB OB..i've had 6 OB in 2 months..... breathing triggers my OB..
Thanks ava and possitive energies
Positive energiesI you know a lot abot this so ill ask you does the coffe thing apply to everyone? I drink coffe everyday..yes I have a problem..I drink and eat anything I want and never feel any tingles or itchies, and I also take supplements..coffe is not reducing the effectivness of the supplements is it?
Soclose: what country do you live in because ozone therapy is effective with herpes patients,from the research I did 100% were cured. but its illegal in the usa and the closest you can get to ozone therapy is H2O2 or hydrogen peroxide therapy. Oxygenated water is also the next betSt thing but I have no idea how much you have to injest for it to equal the amount you would get in therapy.
Also anyone take selenomax? I've had it for a while (again can't remember why I bought it) it boosts your immune system and actually helped 78% aids patients regain a healthy amount of white blood cells..if it helps them it can help herpes sufferers
If you think that magic creams and peroxide can "put oxygen into your body", then test it.. cover your body with it and tie a plastic bag real tight over your head (duct tape the bottom to be sure). Now with all that magic cream supplying O2 to your body, you shouldn't have to worry about breathing, right ?
Soclose: Thanks I just sent you some mail.
positiveenergies: Thank for the info. I know what you mean about location. Maybe we can buy some real estate there in Japan.lol
fat-harold: It could be possible that you had a huge ob because you were taking that tcm. That could've brought it out of hiding. The virus could've been attacking it where it was and gave it no alternative but to leave where it was hiding. You may have missed the chance to rid youself of it. I wouldn't give up. I've noticed that some of us just get rid if what it is we're using because we get ob's. Just think it might just be working.
denni and positiveenergies: I can do nothing to bring this virus out...if it's still in me. I only ob 5 months for a week or 10 days. I can stress or eat anything I want. I just want to know where this h is hiding.
fighter2312: Have you flipped your wig? Unprotected sex?! How did you get infected in the first place? I'm no judge but you could get something much worse. Use your head! If you infect anyone you can't take that back. I'll say it again. YOU CAN'T TAKE IT BACK! Think...think...think about your life. Sex is about affection not infection. Please...please be safe. Just like if you got infected with something else...you would be right back where you started. Would you not? If you feel your no longer infected then enjoy your new lease on life. Stop looking down the barrel of a loaded gun. Everyone woman won't tell you that she has an std......she may not know!!!!!!!!!! Do you know with certainty?
We are all here to look out for each other. This is my way. It's actually a job now until I'm cured of this.
Hey family: I found this interesting article and thought I'd pass it along. Just a little more help.
positiveenergies & verydepress: It is very interesting what you say about having hsv1 on genitals and 2 on the lips. I contracted hsv1 from my ex gf and the docs here told me that when this happens the virus becomes hsv2. I'm all mixed up right now. Because my ex does only have hsv1, and she had sores on her lips when we had sex. That's why I'm so sure of what has happened. I wish I had only hsv1... But it is not so.
Tryin 2 b - : I've checked both my e-mails but no mail from you :)
okansezgin1987@gmail.com
1marie : I live in Turkey. Here ozone is legal. I had 48 sessions but was not cured. Maybe they are doing it wrong here.
Could you please share the links I can find the people 100% cured from herpes with ozone?
Actually my numbers were dropped from 1.36 to 1.22 after the therapy. But I could not afford more sessions by then. Then I tried resolve which made the number 5.2 which was the highest ever...
With love to all...
SoClose & Very Depress - Please check out this link
It is very informative. There are 2 types of HSV viruses 1) HSV 1 2) HSV 2. Your doctor is very wrong. HSV 1 on the lips/mouth does not become HSV 2 on the genitals. It is the same virus. Similiarly, HSV 2
Sorry about that - I hit the post comment button prematurely.
SoClose & Very Depress - Similiarly, HSV 2 on the genitals does not become HSV 1 on the lips/mouth. It remains HSV 2. And of course, some people have both HSV 1 and HSV 2. HSV 1 is more severe on the mouth/lips than on the genitals and HSV 2 is more severe on the genitals than on the lips/mouth.
IGg test can tell which virus you have. I have HSV2 but I do not have 1.
You can infect your partner if you have an active OB and are wearing a condom. There may be lesions around the scrotum or gentalia that are exposed. HSV is spread through skin contact. Viral Shedding occurs when there is an active OB and sometimes when there is not an active outbreak so you just don't know. However, viral shedding may be reduced from approx 11 days to 3 days if you are on an anti-viral medication.
Please click on the link and read about Asymptomatic Shedding and Prevention. I really recommend anti-virals and condoms, and refraining from intercourse during active OB to dramatically reduce the risk of spreading the virus. Take care.
positive energies
I Can Feel It - what baloney!
This hub will check back with you after your positive test and you leave your feeling of euphoria....
Who is selling you this bill of goods?
Like I said, check back with us when your treatement is done. The reward is the highest IGG level you have ever had!
I can Feel It AKA TrueCures AKA TRUESCAM AKA TRUECON - Please give it a rest. There are no people here for you to scam. You have not cured a single person of any disease or virus.
http://hubpages.com/hub/True-Cures---Con-Man--Frau
Go away before I post about you hustling people on other sites. You are unethical!
positiveenergies
Ava: I wish you would have not even fallen for that dumb shyt! I read it and just ignored it. We all know the truth about dumb ass truecures aka no cures. When something is written like that we should just keep it moving. Handsome my ASS!lol Stupidity is always ugly.
Trying - Even though your response was not for me - pls let me explain why I always respond. I always respond because this hub attracts new people who come here looking for the CURE. We all click on every link and examine every posts that could be the ONE. I always respond because I don't want to see someone new scammed by these old, professional, pimp hustlers. The old hubbers know the deal but the newbies don't. And these hustlers will not go away unless you chase them away every single time they rear their ugly heads. For them it's all about the money and every newbie represents more money that they can get. They remind me of drug dealers and drug dealers remind me of blood suckers. I try to chase these blood suckers every single time they show up. Think of me as the neighborhood watch!
Think of how much more money we would have and how much pain we wouldn't have now - if only someone told us back then.
positive energies
Positiveenergies : Thanks a lot for the links. But here is my situation : I got hsv2 from a girl who carried only hsv1.
I think there is a misunderstanding about this virus. That is why I always say that the medicine knows nothing about this virus. Here is some info I bookmarked as ''my condition'' on my computer.
Info : Genital herpes is caused by a virus called herpes simplex (HSV). There are two different types of herpes virus that cause genital herpes — HSV-1 and HSV-2. Most forms of genital herpes are HSV-2. But a person with HSV-1 (the type of virus that causes cold sores or fever blisters around the mouth) can transmit the virus through oral sex to another person's genitals.
Questions anD answers part :
Q&A : Can you get genital herpes from a cold sore?
— Lucy*
The simple answer is yes — it is definitely possible to contract genital herpes from oral sex.
Genital herpes is caused by the herpes simplex virus (HSV). There are two types of herpes viruses — HSV-1 and HSV-2. Genital herpes is usually caused by HSV-2; oral herpes (cold sores) is usually caused by HSV-1. However, genital herpes can occasionally also be caused by HSV-1. Someone with HSV-1 can transmit the virus through oral contact with another person's genitals, anus, or mouth, even if they don't have sores that are visible at the time.
Other than abstinence (not having sex) the best way to prevent herpes is to use a condom during any type of sex (oral, vaginal, or anal). You should have your partner use a dental dam every time you receive oral sex to protect against STDs.
Reviewed by: Larissa Hirsch, MD
Date reviewed: September 2007
And this is the link to the website if you'd lke to have a look.
http://kidshealth.org/teen/sexual_health/stds/std_
According to your knowledge I have to have contracted hsv2 from my girlfriend who doesn't have it. It cannot be someone else because she had an active ob on her lips when we stupidly had sex. Because in my country I even hadn't heard of an std called hsv before ! ! ! I wasn't cheating on her, and I lived all the symptoms of the first OB in two weeks as we can read everywhere on the net. If you are right then my ex gf becomes the biggest liar for telling me she was pos for hsv1 but neg for hsv2. And now she must be infecting her new boy f with hsv2.
When I get rid of this shT I'll go every tv channel in Turkey and tell what it is, how you can get it and how you can get rid of it. I'm now living for this !
Hope this will happen soon.
With love to all...
Positiveenergies: It's all good. It just seems like that was tc patting himself on the back and doing what he does in different lango. I think when there is something worth investigating we'll know.
SoClose - This is the deal. I have HSV2 and I can have HSV2 on the gentalia or the lips. But it is still HSV2. I can have HSV1 and have it on the lips and gentalia. But it is still HSV1. The virus does not become HSV1 on the lips and HSV2 on the genitals. However, the virus CAN BE TRANSMITTED TO BOTH AREAS QUITE EASILY - from indulging in oral sex etc. This is a fact.
Do not blame your gilfriend because she may simply be repeating what the doctors told her. A lot of the doctors don't know therefore, how can you expect your girlfriend to know? If I go to my country with a herpes outbreak, believe me when I tell you the doctors will not know much more. Some doctors do not differentiate between HSV1 and HSV2 because the virus is so easily transmitted between the lips and the genitals. So they just lump it together. This may be the case and your doctor may be saying to you that you have genital herpes or "herpes on the genital area". However, the virus can be either HSV1 or HSV2 or both. Soemtimes, the doctors simply do NOT know. That's why I searhed to find this hub and relied on our people and research to educate myself about the virus.
If you are not sure which type you have then take an IGg test. This test will tell you if you have HSV1 or HSV2 or both viruses.
Know this - the treatment to eradicate HSV1 and HSV2 is the same. There are many people with both viruses.
I too will like to beat up my ex-boyfriend but after I am done - I will still have HSV2. Anger retards progress. Just focus on getting cured. You and I will both learn several lessions from going through this period in our lives. I have already learned about patience, immunity system optimization and persistency. But above all, I have learn to be non-judgemental and emphatize with people going through various trials in their lives. I have also learnt that I have great health. The herpes virus is pesky but not life threatening.
It is through our greatest trials that we learn our greatest lessons/wisdom. Let's compare notes when this trial is over.
positive energies
positiveenergies : Actually it doesn't matter for me if I have hsv1 or 2 on the genital area. Both ways I will never have sex with a girl before I'm completely cured. This will be soon enough. I'm working hard for that. I've learnt a lot since being infected. I don't blame her for nothing. Even if she had hsv2 but did not tell me the truth she is still forgiven by myself. I can understand her . She may have been afraid to tell me because I could tell the others or I could give harm to her. ( I would never but she may have thought that ) I did tons of meditation, for the first time in my life I watched what I've been eating. I have earned and learnt too much because of h but it has done its work it may leave now. I had IgG tests several times. I have both of the viruses. hsv1 always comes more than the hsv2. My first test results (IgG) were 1.36 hsv1 and 1.22 hsv2. After resolve numbers went up to 5.2-3. I don't know if I did a good thing trying resolve... I thought ab levels were goin up so that they would be strong enough to beat all the viruses in me. But I'm stil pos around 4.2-4.5 levels of IgG for hsv1.
Well trials will be over soon I believe :)
With love...
Positiveenergies: I'd like to know your opinion. As I have both hsv1 and hsv2, do you think that I've got hsv2 from my ex gf's lips ?
With love...
Hi all. It's been a while since I logged in. I decided not to log on too often because that way I was constantly thinking about H and I don't think that is healthy.
Follow up on the talk on HSV-I. I have HSV-I genitally or (GHSV-I). I've come to the point where I really don't think it's a big deal. There's tons of awful shit that can happen to a person - in comparison, this isn't that bad. In all my research on health I've come across people with all sorts of health problems from multiple sclerosis to diabetes and cancer. That sucks much worse than H. The worst thing about H is the stigma.
I had an OB every 2-3 weeks (small razor cut) for the first 6 months but now I have been OB-free for 2 months. It's early days yet but I think the H202 therapy (upto 24 drops of 35% 3 times daily) and perhaps Sangre de Grado (15 drops 2xday) really helped. I'm going to keep on maintenance H202 for a while but I feel confident that this is working for me. Still have some itching issues but I think those will dissipate with time. I will be seeing a naturopath once I can afford it to just help me maximize my health. I'm also cooking with coconut oil and lecithin every day.
I am dating an old friend who know about my HSV-I and does not think it's a big deal. In fact, he thinks I have stressed out about it too much. We have been having sex for the last 5 months and he hasn't contracted it.
Of course, it would be better not to have it. But having it has awakened my consciousness to so many things about my health. I quit smoking, I exercise regularly, I eat well, I have cut alcohol consumption to 3-4 servings a month, I am still way too paranoid about any pain or itch - but I hope that change with time.
Like I said OF COURSE it would be better not to have it - BUT that is not the case. Symptoms are depressing. As long as I can keep those at bay I'm living my life and smiling. Life goes on. No matter what happens - it doesn't stop and wait for you. I just don't want this virus to steal any more from me. I've learned so much. Perhaps my life can be even better than before.
That being said I wish ALL of you success with your protocols because a cure would be awesome!
Soclose: I wish you healing both internally and externally. I can feel your pain through your words. There are several possibilities. Your ex may have it and may just have gotten a false-negative test. You may have got it a long time ago from someone other than your ex. H can lay dormant for a while before showing up. Either way I hope you find healing.
positiveenergies, wow you sure are on quite a fair bit of supplements!! Can I just check with you further on your protocol, like when were you tested last before starting this protocol and have you been tested again recently? Don't mean to jinx anything, but any OB's since starting this regime?
Personally, since taking this protocol of mine, I think my system is starting to get screwed up haha. No real OB's but body feels weird like an OB is trying to breakout but finding it hard to or something like that.
Kathleen, good that you're still on your UBVI treatment. Hopefully you can get a good result and we can take hope in that!! Sadly, don't think I can find it here where I am though.
HerbySmithy: Thankyou..Thankyou..you are so right!!! This too shall pass..all things, all pain..suffering, come to pass and Life goes on..You Rock!
herbsmithy: thanks for your concern and positive way of thinking. I just think the way you do about not thinking about h everyday but I'm not as successful as you are :) I want to get rid of this the soonest possible. It is also hard for me to do that when I was having mms and all for 8 hours watching each hour to come for that bad tasting thing and the other supplements.
About my gf and private life. There's not the slightest possibility I might have gotten it from someone else. Because of two reasons. I wasn't asymptomatic : First :I had all the first infection syptoms and the first ob was very characteristic. The second reason we had sex with her active ob on the lips. It was on december 10th 2008, I had my flu like syptoms the next two days and the ob on 14-15th of december 2008. I was diagnosed with both viruses by IgG test and the second active ob on 3rd of january 2009. Swab tests came back negative don't know why... These happenings show the picture. I'm sure I was infected by her. It's not a problem. But till yesterday through what I've learnt from my doctors I was thinking that I've got only hsv1 from her and cause they are the same viruses, hsv1 on the genitals became hsv2??? I'm a bit shocked. Because if it is impossible she might have infected the new boy f with again hsv2. Turkey is not educated well enough about these viruses. I don't know why. My father is a doctor I didn't know it. All I knew was to watch who I'm with, to use condoms, and wash the genital area after sex. It was my routine... I've read somewhere washing the genital area after sex would prevent contracting hsv after I got it. Well it didn't work for me :)
I don't want to bother with more details. But I just wondered your ideas about what my ex had. Only hsv1 or 2?
Well thanks a lot for being here. I'm very happy that we have each other here. We will beat it soon I believe. Then everything will be much better and different than it was before. My life had already become better. I turned from the biggest mistake of my own. I was planning to wake up next to her for the rest of my life. It turned out that she had nothing to give me during this story. She just calls once in 3-4 months time just to have the relief that it's over. It is not yet. If I was the one who has given it I'd always be there for her and would never give up on her. I would cover all the expenses for the cure. That is what I call being a human...
Well this was what we had to live on both sides. I'm having my own experience and she's having her own. Wish both of us will be happy :)
With love to all...
Hey all : I've always believed that sunlight and the heat in Iraq helped ''R'' to get cured. That's why I try to sunbath when there is sun here. And I also believe the heat triggers an outbreak so I heat my lower back everyday. My father is a doctor. Today he told me that we should all take vitamin d to prevent swine flu. I said why ? He said it is anti-viral. You might know but I'll say it again : Sunlight helps the body produce vitamin d. I think we have another key to the cure. I just wanted to share :)
With love...
where is jessica?
how did things turn out with her and silver shield?
right now I am taking this 5000mg Garlic and a few other things.
I have my ribavirin ready for the next OB though.
Fat Harold - I don't think Jessica started her protocol as yet.
JackBig - I only had the very first outbreak (thank God). I don't get outbreaks but did get symptoms such as itching, discharge, virus realted nerve movements. Since taking my extensive protocol since July, I have eliminated 95-98% of symptoms. I am a firm believer in "If it ain't broken - Don't fix it" so, I will continue this for a while yet. I have supplements to last about 2 more months. I plan to test in late December. Hopefully Santa Claus can give me a good Christmas present.
If you got regular OBs and have not gotten any for 2 months, then keep on doing what you are doing. It's working for you. Your immune system is getting better. Good luck. Maybe we will both get good Christmas presents.
SoClose - Reclaim your thoughts. Focus on healing your mind, body and soul. LET THE PAST BE THE PAST. You can test negative with supplements and positive thinking. We all can!
Take control of your health by taking control of your thoughts!
positiveenergies
positiveenergies : I'm already doing what you're telling me to do :) And I think I'm past the half way. But this will be a new way of life for me. I will keep the way as it is after being cured. I've learnt too much. I've learnt to forgive and love more. Thanks for your positive approach. It helps a lot and puts a big smile on my face while reading your posts and writing back here :)
With love...
I really think this high garlic dose is working....
AVA how much garlic are you taking a day?
why do you think its working if you dont have symptoms to begin with?
OK I cannot find any answers on the silver shield and tcm vs-c protocol so I will be a test subject. I have ordered 15 bottles of silver shield along with a 6 month supply of vs-c 30 count pills. I also ordered the silver shield cream.
I will take the 15 bottles over 5 days, and then start the vs-c pills for 6 months.
For those of you taking garlic or interested. Some of the forms of garlic that proved not effective where because the supplement was not properly absorbed i.e. it doesnt get far enough into the system.
Natures way Garlicin is excellent and one of the best and proven garlic supplements.
Also kyolic garlic from a company called wakanuga - Walmart and Vitaminshoppe market the same brand under there label (read the back ) for cheaper prices.
I take both wakanuga aged garlic and garlicin to cover it all.
Update - still going strong. A great side benefit of this is that I am thinking less of H each and every day.
Fat - It seems like you think about H a lot, like most of us. Try the egg lecithin since you are allergic to the soy. Its so cheap.
Will check in later.
Hello hub family--just a few questions:
1. Is gel kam 0/4 stannous flouride the same thing as medavir? I read somewhere that it could be the same thing. I want to get medavir but I think it's really expensive, at $79 plus the shipping--almost $100 for a little bottle like that?
2. I also read abt stabilized liquid oxygen that some people are talking about. How does it really work?
3. I bought the cvs odorless garlic, should i buy another one or is that ok?
4. I hope that the soy lecithin is as good as the egg lecithin bc I couldn't find the egg anywhere.
Pls family let me know what you guys think. Should I get the medavir or try the cheaper alternative first? Thanks y'all, I really believe that with serious prayers that we can beat this thin' for good!!!
Tryin 2 b - : Hi buddy :) Could you please share the link on which you've read that lecithin deoxygenates the body ? I still cannot find any info on that while there's lots saying lecithin is a cure for h . I stopped lecithin fearing that it would cancel the efects of mms1 but I want to be sure this is the right thing to do.
Hey all : Do you think one should stop the intake of lecithin while on mms1&2 ? ( with reasons please )
Thanks in advance.
With love to all...
Soclose: Thanks for the vit d info. And the ordeal with your ex is only going to be over when your cured. I am certain that you'll share with her when you are. Life goes on. Your dad is so right. Here's a link for that and more:
http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n0
I will try and find that link for you. I'm on my laptop now. I'm on vacation and my pc is messed up. My history is on that one.
To all: Click on the link above.
never2late4hope: Thank you for the info on garlic. I didn't know. I'm taking 15,000mg of it daily. I caught a cold while I was on mms and mms2. I'm still on mms2. Mms1 had to take a back seat to vit c. That garlic really helped me out a lot.
never2late4hope.... you dont give me reply to my email why? did you get my email...
well family.. i am gonna start my product after 7 days.i am gonna paste a email here what sent by a chinese herb doctor..
Dear Bayern
Glad to receive your kind mail. Thanks so much for your kind trust. The herbal tea is made from several herbs which is nature, mild and would not act with other therapy in common condition.Homeopathy focus on enhancing immune system, so does herbal tea. And beside it, herbal will focus on clear virus thus treat the disease form the root. Different from some medicine which claim high price and offer much discount. The cost of herbal tea fully consider patient's financial state. And we would not change the ingredient which is expensive but works well foryour treatment.
Based on the above condition, we suggest you to take our herbal medicine in a form of granule to start your treatment. The herbal granule is dissoluble and concentrated made through modern technology, each dosage is composed of different sachets of granule, it is easy to prepare and bring, you could put the granule into a cup, then add some water and drink it. It is especially prescribed according to your individual condition, it is natural and mild. We will give you a favorable price that is $ 130 for 20 days medicine together with send it by express in China. What do you think about it?
Hubbers - I think we can hypothesize that if a supplement makes us sick or we get sick while on it then that supplement is not necessarily good for us (within reason, of course). I definitely will not try Resolve again and have not really tried MMS because it seems that everyone gets really sick from the darn thing.
I have never been sick on Lysine, Lecithin, garlic, CoQ 10, trace minerals, pycnogenol, olive leaf etc etc. I do not recall anyone on the hub using these supplements posting that they got sick while on it either. Therefore, their immune system is being built up.
Now, I know someone is going to tell me about the Herkimer's effect of MMS but I maintain that it seems to be too radical a treatment over a long period of time.
I have been on this hub for about a year now and I cannot recall 1 single person being cured by MMS. There were many people trying it but NOT one cured. Maybe only Humble or Hubble (whatever his name is) should use this product.
I just don't think that a supplement needs to break you down to build you up. After Resolve, we should really take a second look at some treatment protocol. After all, Resolve is now on the FDA list of ineffective products and that info is posted on the FDA website.
Now, I know not everyone is going to agree with me and that's okay. I just do not subscribe to the notion of beat me up and break me down - to build me up.
positive energies
Hello Bayern, will they send to America too? N do they claim cure after 20 days?
Bayern, you got mail. It was stuck in sent mail box.
Hubbers,
By mistake I found a tea that may be a cure. It is cubed chinese tea and contains prunella vulgaris, eucommia ulmoides, and mistle toe. I don't find it again anywhere. When I drink the tea all symptoms leave immediately and it clears everything.
After resolve I had many problems with constant breakouts once a month. Resolve destroyed my skin alll over. After this tea nothing and I have great energy.
I know prunella vulgaris can kill the virus, mistle-toe and ecommia ulmoides act on the liver and kidney.
I have been researching this tea to find it again or reproduce the effect but I do not know the concentration of each herb.
It works the best ever out of anything I have tried and it is cheap. I paid equivalent of 2.00US for box of 12 cubes.
Anyway, I am with positiveenergies cures should not weaken the immune system or put us in worse state than we are in before the treatment.
My plan is silver shield and tcm vs-c treatment for six months and herbal tea.
Kim,
You should try to find bitter melon tea (get the dried herb) drink it daily and it will stop your outbreaks but is only suppressant. It is used for acylcovir resistant herpes infections with great success.
LA.....they sound very good and its well established hospital in china..and you can see this hospital IN INTERNET. the doctor said they have succes case but they dont claim the cured ,any way we have no choice , so, i did my own plan with three things step by step..if you are interested,, you can also take it and yes you can buy it from america but they may charge much....take care and let me know...
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/h1n1flu/deta
looks like the FDA is on to resolve!!!
Resolve got a warning letter from teh FDA!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like they were also selling a swine flu product and they got busted!!
Never2late4hope-- where do you buy the cubed tea?
BUSTED!! Resolve finally got caught.
Reminds me of back in '71 when I bought some bad acid from this girl in LA.
Well actually these two things have nothing in common, but hell it still reminds me of when I bought the bad acid from the girl in LA!
Captain cloud: were yall saying RIBBIT RIBBIT??LOL.
ABOUT a week ago I had an ob.(on cheek)..can't blame the lecithin because some days I am not consistent. But I have been faithful for about three days now and I am noticing it get better..sooo..I also take vit d3..when I am consistent abd get an aching feeling in my legs when I am not.I take VitA for my skin and zinc and magnesium..but sometimes I will go 2-3 days without anything..I guess the battle is a simple as consistency..
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE..
I am sorry about typos..I meant to say that when I take the vitD3 consistently I don't have side effects but I feel an aching in my legs when I slack off..I seem to have less energy when I am not on my supplements consistently.
Denni- were have you been?
Bayern, pls give me the details. i'd really appreciate it. am taking vsc-tm, garlic, lecithin, and lysine.
Denni - Aveeno has some really great facial soaps. I use it daily to prevent acne. When I do not - my smooth complexion goes crazy. Use the soap that complements your skin type.
Do you realize that many of the old hubbers are no longer on this site? Well, some of them have gotten tired of trying and decided to live with the symptoms and others have simply given up all together. The hubbers that are still here are still trying like hell for a cure. You are one of us.
Try to schedule those supplements. You can take some with food so take those after breakfast, lunch and dinner. Keep taking those supplements - they are painless and each supplement take you closer to the cure. H is a tenacious little f**k and you have to keep at it at every turn, hitting him with everything you got! When you stop, H wins. And I know you are not going to let H win!
If we never find a cure at the very least we should be able to send this virus into dormancy. Hang in there, girl! It's not over till the fat lady sings.
positive energies
Never2Late - I have a Chinese herbalist in Chinatown, NY and he is GREAT! I was planning to see him and ask him for some herbal tea but he is expensive and I would rather not spend the money to see him. Could you please give me the name of the tea? I can look around Chinatown until I find it and buy for other hubbers as well.
positive energies
Hey all, pls can someone tell me about stabilized liquid oxygen? nobody has replied anything abt it.
LA - Are you doing hydrogen perioxide? I only used it for about 2 weeks and wasw not able to access it. I believe that curezone has a lot of info about it. Take care.
positive energies
Regarding stabilized oxygen - yes, I believe it works with something else. I don't believe it is a stand-alone cure. I am taking it right now in fact along with 5,000 mg of concentrated garlic, lysine and oxygen. I think you need some additonal along with it....but, I do believe oxygen kills viruses and makes your blood more oxygenated. It's good stuff and you should take it.
Bayern, what are the three things you are taking? Please tell me.
Hey All: Just wanted to give a quick hello and say that I'm still here, and just say thanks to both the old hubbers and new, who continue to post any and all info they can, and for sharing what you find works, doesn't work, and everything in between. I really appreciate it.. If & when I have anything to offer I will, but you guys are so damn good at your research that I can't imagine finding all the 'goods' that ya'll manage to! ;) Wishing everyone luck on whatever protocol they are on and keep the updates coming! much love.. J
Denni - whaaaaaaaa??????????
Can somebody tell that lying scamming sack of cow sht David Flowers that the FDA is on to Resolve and soon to be on to him as well. Truecures (as I've been saying for over a year) is a 3rd rate con job. Please don't give this pathetic loser a nickel of your hard earned money.
positiveenergies,
the tea is called: Eucommia Ulmoide instant beverage tea it has eucommia, prunella spike(prunella vulgaris), and viscum album (mistletoe), and sugar unfortunately
let me know if you find it, it was the best period....
PE and Ava, thx for your reply. I'm currently taking 2tabs of vsc-tm concentrae, 1tab l-lysine(1000mg), 1tab of lecithtin and garlic. I wanted to add medavir, but i think it's expensive and was comsidering the gel kam with stannous flouride as a substitute, but nobody seems to say much abt it. Now, am thinking abt adding the slo.
Ava, where did you buy yours from and how much? unfortunately, im running low on cash n thus have to be more economical with my spending.
LA - I think Medavir is overpriced and not a good product. I find 70% DMSO to be cheaper, bigger and more effective. DMSO should be applied on lower spine and helps reduce virus in the ganglia. I agree with Ava that perioxide does not seem to be too effective as a stand alone.
What is slo?
positive energies
PE, I thought so too that medavir is too expensive. I guess I'll go for the DMSO--I hope it doesn't smell bad. SLO stands for stabilized liquid oxygen. My goal is to test in Dec and then in March n hopefully be cured by then so I really want to put together a cocktail that'll work and of course with lots of prayer.
No one commented on the fact that resolve got an FDA warning letter.
After all the crap they put you all through and all the money they took in it is clear its a scam and now they have been caught.
I know ashtree wants no more talk of resolve but this is a time to celebrate!!!!!!!!
LA - DMSO does not smell bad at all. You have choices in rose scented and aloe.
TC - I hate to tell you this but Kim, Fat Harold, and members of the East Coast group like Jessica, JGurl and I still post. Members of the East Cost group still communicate and NONE of us have been cured. There is not one negative tester from the East Coast Group. NOT ONE!
For scratching purposes - Are you going to grow long nails or get nail tips?
positiveenergies
LA - I just re-read your protocol. Are you taking the supplements 2 or 3x daily? It is more effective if you take supplements at regular intervals. This ensures that the body has the nutrients to fight at all times. I am also testing in December. Maybe we will test together.
positive energies
PE, I take my supplements before going to work but since I don't always eat breakfast, I take them in the evening sometimes when I come homesince they all say take with meal. And I take them once a day except for when I feel any symptoms, I may take extra dose before going to bed. Btw thx for the info on DMSO, i'll be ordering that too for when i feel the s**t crawling on my lower spine. I also will add SLO once I know where Ava gets hers from n what brand. We will beat this thing by God's grace.
HI Everyone! I rarely post but I try to keep up on all your progress! You are all awesome and I admire your tenacity! I know there are a lot of us out here who do not post but are inspired by what you write! I continue to pray that we will all find a cure.
I am current taking lecithin, lysine, herbal immune booster, garlic, and vs-c tcm with no results yet. I also just started treating with a homeopath and I will keep you all posted on how that goes.
I also saw TC twice this year and am not cured! In fact, my ob's are worse than before I saw him!
LA - I know it's expensive but I think you should take the supplements at the very least twice daily. Remember, you are trying to boost your immune system so that you NEVER have outbreaks again and eventually get rid of the virus. Herpes is sometimes referred to as an immune compromised virus so taking the supplements regularly works wonders. Try it - you will see what I mean.
positive energies
Thx for the tips. I should prolly do that. I just didn't want to be overdoing it.
Sorry, the previous post was from me.
ibelieve jessica and kathleen
Have any of you started silver shield and tcm vs-c protocol. My order will be in this week and I will start curious about how to take the 15 bottles silver. 3 bottles morning noon and night for five days maybe?
I already take licorice root daily as well
any other info would be helpful on the protocol
Thanks
never2late4hope: When are you starting this protocol? Please keep us updated. To answer your question, I am unemployed so I don't have a lot of extra income, thus, I have not yet started silver shield and tcm vs-c. Right now it's all I can handle to get my weekly UVBI and Vit C IV treatments, which cost $200 each time. If I could afford to buy ss and vsc I totally would! I do want to say though since I've been doing UVBI and Vit C IV's, I have not had an OB at all and I used to get one every month whenever I got my period. I really think the UVBI with the Vit C IV's are curing me!! :) My fifth treatment will be tomorrow. Cheers to you and everyone on this hub and good luck to all!
I also believe that SLO combined with something else like DMSO and supplements can cure you I have poked around other sites and a couple people say they have been "cured" of course by cured they mean having no more outbreaks. But one person who claimed this said that they tested and they were in the negative range he said .92 he has tested twice and says he will do the SLO and DMSO again and test again and then post his results.
Basically whatever treatment we choose we just have to be consistent the person who tested in the negative range did liquid oxygen and DMSOfor 3 months and did a colon cleanse before he started. Also having outbreaks during treatments can be your body clearing the virus this guy said when he started DMSO and SLO he had the biggest ob.
I am going to follow his routine do a cleanse after that buy DMSO online and get SLO from whole foods and go hard for 3 months....they have a really good brand there it called CELL FOOD approved by FDA and has highest legal amount of oxygen and hydrogen! But its 30.00 They don't even keep it on shelves you have to go up to the checkout and get it.
Soclose: sorry it took so long for me to awnser but those trials can be found on novanaturaltherapies.com you can also google herpes cure by oxygen.
1marie, what if i take slo and other supplements such as garlic, lysine, lecithin, and vsc-tm without adding dmso-do you think it will work?
This is a correction on the tea it contains eucommia, prunella spike(prunella vulgaris), and viscum coloratum, nakai(mistletoe), and sugar
The mistletoe was wrong from an earlier post this mistletoe is different species and has many studies on it. I think it may be key ingredient to fighting this disease it cures cancer and hypertension as well
A real herpes cure needs financing. Read the last sentence in this article. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091102/od_nm/us_hotel
3 billion? for bs? 3 billion in cure research would go a long way.
bill
ps: I hope hell exists if only for true cures.
I would like to invite TC, Dave, Dr. LaLa. All the hubbers including Fat Harold, Kim, Positiveenergies and the rest of you on my show this week to settle this once and for all.
With special Guest Dave and Large Marge of course.
Hell does exist and I am living in it right now. I am actually crying and lonely tonight because my boyfriend no longer touches me and doesn't pay that much attention to me anymore either. He doesn't want to risk being with me anymore. I wonder if I can be celibate the rest of my life if I cannot get cured? I originally wanted children, but now that option's moot. My fourth anniverary of having H was October. So yes, Bill, hell does exist. For me, that's for sure. I keep hoping things will get better but today it's hit me hard.
Kathleen: I hope you find comfort in knowing you are not alone.This hub would not exist if you were. Please use this hub as therapy and continue to reach out for support here. We know the hell you speak of and the flames seem to jump from member to member,from one day to the next.
Your life does not depend on this one man, he is not your GOD. He was not your beginning nor will he be your ending.
Life does go on...believe it or not..life goes on..we have to decide EITHER way if we are gonna be apart of it or not.Don't get me wrong, I have had a many days like this one you speak of and I know all too well the pain you are feeling, I just hope you come up swinging..My heart goes out to you.
Cali: where are you when we need you??
Positive Energies: This is late: but..thanks for the tips about the Aveeno. ect..(waiting on a chem peel)
And.. yeah you are right, alot of the old hubbers are no longer on the hub..They may have decided to let go or maybe they are cured?? Who knows..
And..I have got to get these supplements on a schedule, because I don't quit! Know what I mean??
LA- I do believe that SOL and supplements would also cure SLO is the main destroyer DMSO is importatnt cause it actually penetrates the skin so when you rub it on your lower back and back of neck it can penetrate the ganglia where herpes is and dIsturb it and draw it out..its strong the protocol used to be rub hydrogen peroxide on your back and then put DMSO on it but what happened when people did this is they got outbreaks on there backs where the h202 and dmso was. So rubbing the h202 on was cut. Do you have any supplements to replace dmso?
Kathleen- I understand keep pushing through we all in some way or another understand, I am currently with the person who gave me herpes He cheated and I dealt with it because I had herpes...and didn't think no one else would want me...I am sure if I did not have this I would have been dating...I have been intimate with only 2 guys in my life and never strayed and I don't feel what happened is fair we all feel some form of sadness in this but stray strong and keep goin imagine how hell feel when your cured and with someone else!
Denni - Be careful with chemical peels for dark spots. Ty using Vantex by Fashion Fair. It cost about $20 and really works.
Kathleen - I too have felt the anger, desperation, loneliness and hopelessness. Do NOT let it take control of you! Your boyfriend does not love you unconditionally. If he did he would take you in his arms and tell you that he will be at your side through this fight. You have lost nothing.
I know that seems to be tough advice. Let me tell you a short story about me. I was so very distraught about my ex-boyfriend who cheated on me and also deliberately gave me this virus. He then decided to move on with another girl. I was hurt, humiliated and distraught. I told my father that I contracted Herpes from him and my father said to me softly but sternly - "Exactly why are you crying? Do you call that LOVE! Go dry your tears and forget about that no-good man. He will come back to you and you will not even want him."
Well, the pain was so fresh and I was in love so I continued crying day after day. I cried and I cried. Now 2 years later, the same ex-boyfriend came back to me and I would not touch him. I would not touch him because I realize that he never loved me. But most of all, I will not touch him because I realize what love is and what love does. And he was NOT love! Today my criterias for a man loving me has risen even higher.
You my dear, have lost nothing and no one. You never had him to begin with and he never loved you. I am sorry but sometimes women (including me) needed to hear my father's strong words and hold out for so much more. Dry your eyes -cause he is not worth your tears!
positive energies
Never2Late - The reason the tea worked was because of the prunella. Prunella is anti-viral. I used it many months ago but was not impressed with it. Maybe it works better as a tea. Here is some info about it -
http://altnature.com/herpesnaturalcure.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3039489.stm
positiveenergies
pos: On my way to Beall's to buy vantex..thanks
PE, did you use dmso n did you buy the kit that comes with the book and o2 force? it's from never an outbreak website. there are a few scary things abt it on the net, so i want to make sure am buying the one approved for humans. also do u know where i can get liquid oxygen.
DENNI
The old hubbers all came to see me which is why you dont see them on the hub any more.
Now if you came to see me then you too would no longer be on the hub you would be free to live again.
I cant put my web address but if you read between the lines its
truecure dot com wink wink nod nod
I tell ya, I really dont understand this company resolve.
Not only does it not work but it has made my condition far worse.
I mean why not just sell us food coloring and water? Why take it further and do something to harm us even more?
TC: All the hubbers that saw you, have been back with obs..except for Techie, who used MMS for 45-60 days before seeing you. She still hasn't tested negative..but good luck on youtube
hi family
there is a hospital in jinan near by me, and saying me that they have cured many case before.. i am talking to them in detail..and they use different chinese therapy
hi family
i got a chinese hospital and they are saying me that cured many cases of hsv, so i am talking to them in detail.. i will update later
Bayern hi . I'm very hopeful that a cure will come out from China. I feel lucky that we have you there. I'd be glad if you have the chance to ask what they mean by ''cured''. Does that mean decrease in the amount and severity of obs, or a negative IgG test ? Please keep us posted. Thanks.
With love...
Bayern, thx for the work you are doing over there. Ican't wait for your update and am very much interested in knowing what they have to offer and Ihope they can ship to America! Thx in advance. I really believe that we can beat this if we continue fighting by God's grace.
Thank you all hubbers for your continous support n hardwork in fight for a cure--I appreciate you guys for real.
hi family.....i talked to them about 30 minutes and , it is real hospital, i talked to them as a doctor not as a herpes infected to find a clue, i got almost positive things,,,,,
soclose..you can call me now, we can talk about it...email me right now and i give you my number,, i know you very much..thanks
they said me , have many posibilities,,,but some time may occur failure and depends on the case but, most of cases have been cured proving with blood test..and it is very short therapy takes 5 days but need to be at their hospital...they dont sell product via online..and just treat the patient at hospital..they may use many kind of chinese special product during treatment...that all said by them,,,any way,, i cant say it cure right now cause , i am already got failed with the phone matter,, i will go to hospital to visit them, its very very close just takes 3 hours by bus..thats all family
Hey Bayern. I've emailed you. I also gave my msn address. It would be much cheaper to communicate that way.
Could you please ask them about the price of the treatment ? And I really wonder what is that they're doing. Does it involve herbs ? Does it involve acupuncture and enema with herbs ?
With love...
LA - I only bought the DMSO not the kit. LA just stick with the therapies that are working for us on the hub and it will also work with you. If not, you will spend thousands of dollars and still not be cured.
Herpes cures are worth many billion of dollars and everyone (like Resolve and True Cures)is hawking some ineffective product or therapy. Most of these therapies do NOT work. Everyone on this hub have tried a multitude of different products and we are all pretty much using the same products now, and these products are really helping us. We are still interested in trying new treatments but the ground work have already been done. We can now eliminate what does not work.
Try to be patient. The immune system cannot be optimized overnight. I have been using this treatment now since summer and the results are remarkable. I keep modifying it but keep to the core treatment and use it everyday. The hardest thing wtih Herpes is wanting it to go away over night so we are "OK" again. It does not work that way. Tenacity and patience pays out great dividends here.
Denni - None of The East Coast Group who saw TC have been cured. We still communicate via e-mail and are positive for herpes. Some people just got tired or bored coming to the hub with no cure in sight.
Detective Bayern - On the Job! Thanks Bayern for taking care of us.
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Kim, Ava, Fat Harold - Could you please list the products you have used unsuccessfully?
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I did TC, resolve twice, BHT, a hollistic Dr. olive leaf extract. H2O2, herbs galore, TCM VS_C, biotegca, lectroject.
most of these things did a good job keeping the OB's away for long periods of time but it always came back.
right now I am using 5000mg of garlic and reservatol and pycnoginal.
Then I have ribivirin waiting on the shelf.
SUPERHOPEFUL cn we get an update on your use of ribivirin?
Fat,, please email me.. and contact me, i have found much better things, and we need to make a deal about it....
this is by this hospital and i did translate in english with the help of google...and the key to believe them ...treat in their hospital, dont sell via internet...and as they said , they will diognose first then also have IGG test after treatment in their hospital..
The target to the gene system, treats both cause and symptoms the elimination reproductive organ herpes
??Herpes, AIDS “blood brother”
??The herpes as early as appeared the approximately more than 2000 years ago, hope a wave carat bottom then once to conduct the research to its symptom, the 17th century Louis XIV who suffers from the fever for the commemoration once had also called the herpes it “illness of the French king”, but after yizhi dao presents AIDS, it only then arouses people's interest. Originally all loses the immunity the patients definitely will present the herpes the symptom, therefore it is also called AIDS “the blood brother”. The reproductive organ herpes (Genital Herpes, GH) namely occur in the reproductive organ spot pure herpes, is the virulent infection spread disease, the Chinese medicine belongs to " the herpes simplex " the category. The clinical disease incidence rate increases steadily, the harm and the damage is also more complex seriously to the health.
Reproductive organ herpes symptom
??[harm explanation]: The reproductive organ herpes, might cause the human to lose their life!
??The reproductive organ herpes usually 2 (HSV-2) infect by the pure herpes virus cause. This kind of virus assumes “the deep sleep condition” generally on the most person bodies, but the spiritual burden overweight, overheated, the underheating, the long-term infection, consumptive disease, takes drugs, takes the massive antibiotics as well as the bad ecological environment and so on many factors energy “the activation” they. 2 HSV virus, it might want a person's life simply.
??The reproductive organ herpes manifest suddenly repeatedly, controls with difficulty, light may cause diseases and so on heart disease, meningitis, nervous system harm, simultaneously the reproductive organ herpes virus and the reproductive organ malignant tumor relations are close. As early as in the 60s on some people proposed that causes the reproductive organ herpes?The herpes virus possibly is phallocarcinoma's latent carcinogenic factor, heavy may the pathological change be a phallocarcinoma.?Because is taken bad hurts and so on reasons heavily, the patient easy to present the psychological barrier. Because is taken bad hurts and so on reasons heavily, the patient easy to present the psychological barrier. For example: Patient's self-respect is weaken, does not hope with the opposite sex sexual intercourse, the fear infection, causes the function barrier, affects the domestic peace, even has the depression.
??[symptom analysis]: After infection reproductive organ herpes typical symptom
??Reproductive organ spot: Appears disperses in the distributed red spot, the papula, the water scar, several, 10 several or are more, following may become the pus blister, the erosion or ulcer. Is accompanied by the pruritus or the ache. Continues the l week - 2 weeks later at least, the harm ties, the cicatrization crazily. Generally 3 week - 4 periderm damages the retrogression, but may have the new harm.
??General symptom: Gives off heat common, the headache, the asthenia and myodynia, as well as inguen lymphnoditis and so on.
??[expert dispels doubt]Why do the reproductive organ herpes, get sick govern, the root difficult to eliminate?
??The reproductive organ herpes long treatment does not recover, manifests suddenly repeatedly becomes the current clinical care thorniest question, why reproductive organ herpes treatment such duplicate merino? The first medical source factor hold predominant factor, next is disease characteristic and patient own factor.
??1st, normative science treatment, antibiotic abusiveness, aggravation clinical care difficulty. The herpes virus is in itself the virus which one kind very difficult to eliminate, the unreasonable standard's treatment provides the opportunity not to be missed to the virus in vivo attachment and the duplication, further intensified the viral drug resistance production, the diversification which the viral population changes and complex. Meanwhile to the antibiotic not standard use, affects body's immunity function, system's and so on internal secretion the humoral immunity function functions, and will also cause the antibiotic to bear the medicine, will bring the new difficulty for disease's recovery and the following treatment, will restrict and is affecting disease's entire recovery process.
??2nd,?The pure herpes virus produces bears the medicine, after the morbidity, duplicates fast. The traditional treatment uses Arab League past Luo river Wei, Ming Zhuxin and so on antivirotic medicine, as well as the antijamming element, the thymus peptide immunity preparation, the early time has certain effect. But the viral population is now complicated and diversified, adapts gradually in the long-term anti-viral process by the virus, causes the treatment result not to be more ideal. And the drug efficacy display is slow, even if forms the effective concentration in the blood, it eliminates the function to the virus not to compare the virus reproduction speed. Brings the very great difficulty for organism to virus's elimination with the pharmacological treatment, is a current repeatedly difficult important attribute.
??3rd,?The pure herpes virus special adhesiveness, causes the traditional treatment to be very difficult to attack and capture. Reproductive organ herpes pathogenesis virus,?The pure herpes virus (HSV) the ambush in the ganglion, the organism immunity accommodation lacking in vigilance, normal is dormant at times in organism each immunity function waits for an opportunity, when organism accommodation disorder, when immunologic functions and so on inflammation are low, the virus activates rapidly, the harm organization organ, the medicine is very difficult in the treatment from the ganglion to clean up the virus, at the same time the treatment is also big to own damage.
??4th,?The pure herpes virus has the camouflage extremely, the induction organism defense function is abnormal. Clinical indicated?After pure herpes virus variation, may carry on the self-camouflage, lets organism be unable to distinguish, or releases has a vacation the signal to avoid the medicine and the immune system eliminates the function to it, brings to the treatment is very greatly invariable, even if cures also possibly is the temporary one kind of false appearance, very easy to recur once more.
??5th, the reproductive organ herpes morbidity merges much other diseases, in the clinical care is neglected easily. In the clinical actual treatment, the reproductive organ herpes are often not are taken bad alone, generally is in other inflammations or silent infection sequela. But mostly is neglected in the actual treatment, like this gave the recrudescence and the viral shift has provided the objective factor.
??6th, the traditional treatment is the double-edged sword, eliminates the virus the damage to be proportional with “the vitality”. Not only as a result of virus's special adhesiveness, the camouflage, characteristics and so on duplication and variation, the medicine treatment the difficulty is big, moreover speaking of the anti-virus class chemistry medicine, it is specially big to body's side effect, it eliminates the effect and in certain sector to the virus is proportional to organism physiology function damage. In this case, organism immune system's burden and the pressure are also increasing, not only need eliminate the virus, moreover must deal with own new damage, this is one which of difficult problems the traditional treatment current has not been able the very hospitable clothing and avoids.
??7th, recovery nursing not, when daily has the auto-inoculation infection or infects once more. In the minority recovery patient in vivo nerve cell festival has the viral variation bead remaining, when falls ill, gives off heat, the excessive drinking, tired and so on the
Bayern - The translation is very confusing. I could not follow. Could you please go it over?
positive energies
Bayern, what is your email?
will this stuff cure it?
fat.. i think you have my email address, and you had sent me email that when i was searching GH capture
positive energy...yes its very confusable ...but i can get the meaning as i talked to them...
i jut let you all to know it what i am doing,,i dont mean that i found cure.. i need to know it clearly another scam or real cure...but they said me many good things things. that keeping my chin up....and i am trying to catch the clue about it.. thats all..
and also have some other gene therapy in china, they also claim cure but the sound like scam.. and i will do my best,, just believe me.. take care all
Fat: I finished the first round, but haven't started the 2nd round yet... still waiting for my overdue OB. But this stuff is pretty nasty. I got terrible headaches for a couple of weeks and even a few nosebleeds! It feels like someone had a crow bar between the left and right hemishperes of my brain! Ouch! During those days I had times where I felt like I couldn't think clearly either. I hope the damage it does it worth it. But I'm at exactly one month since the last OB... so I should be getting another one any day now.
Super
PE, thx for the advice n info. I've been taking vsctcm for over a month and it seems to be working. I've had a pimple on my face that i wasnt sure what it was exactly but other than that, i've been ok so far.
thx Bayern.
bayern
yes you gave it to me once but i cant find. please let me have it again.
Bayern, when you find the cure, I am coming to China. Please keep all of us posted.
positiveenergies - I have used Resolve two times unsuccessfully. I have also seen an alternative doctor in Florida.
One thing is for darn sure. Both times I took resolve, my IGG levels were through the roof. When I was originally diagnosed before my first round of Resolve in August 2008, my IGG levels were 2.35. Then, they shot up to over 5 and I am trying to get this back down.
We need to keep searching. Maybe Bayern will hold the keys to the kingdom.
I am asymptomatic. Now, I am taking 5,000 mg of garlic daily along with Lysine. I occasionally take liquid oxygen drops. All are manageable.
The burden I live with is knowing I have this disease and will not date until I am negative.
Together, we wil find a cure.
AVA
you should get the garlic from standard process. I read how they make it and I think its more absorb-able. You can get it from whole health associates on vermont.
I will make the trip to china with you as soon as Bayern comes through for us.
Thank God for the hub!
fat - ok. I was in China 2 years ago. It is a long trip to make but if there is a cure, I am going.
Fat..ava,, please call me now....
i can explain you many things as i know and i wanna talk to you.
email me first then give you my number..madhabg100 at ret yahoo.com
AVA and Bayern, I just get so worried that we go and then a few weeks later more OB's.
I have had it happen so many times now and it is so depressing each time.
Bayern, I will call you tomorrow its late now.
DDD can you give us an update on how the lecithin is working?
Ava - Do you have any symptoms at all? Maybe you should get tested now. You may be cured.
I still have a few little symptoms in my body so I am waiting. My IgG numbers went thru the roof after Resolve as well. The same thing happened to SoClose.
LA - Products that have not worked for Fat Harold, Ava and me.
Ava - Resolve
Pos Energies - BHT, Biogetica, Resolve (2 rounds plus), True Cures,
Fat Harold - True Cures, Resolve twice, BHT, a hollistic Dr., Olive leaf extract, H2O2, herbs galore, TCM VS_C, Biotegca, Lectroject.
Hope this list helps.
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Ava : Hey I'm on the same boat as you are ! I'm not gonna date anyone till I'm cured. Because I know it will be over soon. I won't have to wait all my life long ! ! !
With love...
Big Gay John aka True Cures - True Cures, Are you trying to come out of the closet? Please stop using other handles. It smell of desperation! That's why we never believes your testimonials. They are all you.
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Big Gay John aka True Cures - Please keep it clean. I do understand your financial frustrations. Nevertheless, have some respect for Ashtree's hub and all the other users. Come over to my hub and let's have a go at it there. Okay, True Cures?
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I have noticed that finished resolve that I am having weird heart palpitations.
I took one of the bottles to a lab and found it has small amounts of arsenic in it.
Not enough to kill you but over time we will all die of complications to it.
Honest Hernest - LOL & LMAO! I need appointments for 14 people from NY -The Still UnCured East Coast Group.
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You guys are funny as hell.
Hey Super, I think you said in an earlier posting something along the lines of the ribavirin really agitated the H? What did you mean by that (and sorry if I'm butchering your prior description)? I realize that you got some side effects, but did using it help the symptoms clear faster or were your H specific symptoms worse? Did you take 400mg twice a day for ten days? I guess we're all waiting with baited breath for that second OB; I imagine if your OB after that is overdue, that'll get this place buzzing.
Bayern, man, you are a trooper, trekking across China looking for a cure. What do you think about ribavirin? It supposedly causes fatal transcription errors that render the virus mutated and useless. It is recognized as very effective for RNA viruses but H is a DNA virus, so not sure if at a biomolecular level the latent virus in the host ganglial cell suffers from this transcription error or only the virions it creates when using the host cell DNA to replicate are so affected. Just wonderin' if during any of your pharmacological training in med school if they said anything about this relatively obscure antiviral that urban legend says is a suppressed cure.
Hey, thanks everyone for making me feel better and all your kind words. :)
Just had my fifth UVBI and Vit C IV treatment yesterday. Have some extra money so am hoping to get two treatments next week and two the following week and then my tenth the following week after that; and THEN I will get tested and I will post my results. Woo-hoo! Am very excited about this. Still have NO OB's!
Posenergies: LOL! Perhaps "The Still UnCured East Coast Group" should be called "Still Uncured Easterners Tricked and Cajoled." The acronym for that stands for: SUE TC. LOL!
Bayern: I'm interested to find out more about what you have been posting. Please share when you have a chance.
SoClose: Did you get your Medavir yet? I sent it to you last week and they said it'd take at least 5 business days, so hopefully soon. Thanks again for your very kind email. Made me feel much better. You are wise to not date yet until you are cured. :)
Cheers everyone! Look to the prize!
Hubbers - I need advice. I still have 2nd dose of Ribavirin left. I would like to take it but don't get outbreaks and have very little symptoms. Here is my thinking - Suppose I take it - Will it now eradicate all the little boggers that are left in my body? Could this be my cure? Or should I just be more patient?
positiveenergies
Bayern: Thanks for all of your hard work. I'm sure it well pay off of all of us eventually. Hopefully sooner then later.
Soclose and all: I have finished my 3 weeks of mms 1 and mms2. I couldn't finish the last 3 days as I was sick of it. I'll get my blood work done soon. I have to set my dr's appt next week. I'm taking lots of supplements and I'm now doing mesosilver. These are what I'm taking:
Lecithin 1200mg 3 x's with each meal
BHT 1000mg 3 x's with each meal
Garlic 5,000mg 3 x's with each meal
CoQ-10 200mg
Monolaurin 900mg 3 x's with each meal
Zinc 100mg
Bilberry 1000mg 3 x's with each meal
Ester-C 3000mg 3 x's with each meal
Lysine 2000mg 3 x's with each meal
Yes, I know very expensive piss.lol I can tolerate all of this with no problem. I need to really boost up my immune system as much as I can as it's not an overnight trip. I've always taken lots of supplements most of my life but I stopped.
True Cures: Why is it you come here? From what most here say about you, you lack the knowledge and the skills to cure anyone. Do you come here to agitate the users of this hub? Humh!? I don't know you but I have read lots of negative things about you. I am no judge as I'm not GOD! Please stop the ridiculous performance that is yourself. It's not amusing at all and we can do without it. We are here to find a true cure that has absolutely nothing to do with you! Again please stop.
Lets reverse the H!
Tryin 2 B - Yup, you got a cocktail, alright. So do I but it works great, doesn't it?
Hubbers - If a product has serious negative effects - please report it to the FDA at
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/me
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Onedayatatime: 400mg/twice per day for 10 days... it gave me one of the worst flare ups ever after taking it for 7 days. It didn't clear it faster... I just had to ride it through untile it was finished. But my head still hurts a little bit from it a month later. I think it's very hard on your body and nervous system. Whether it did what's it's supposed to do, the jury is still out. My last OB was October 2. I usually get them every 3-4 weeks. It's now been over 4 weeks. I've had a few itches that feel like it might break through, but nothing has broken through yet. Today I felt no itching.
Super
Hello hubbers,
I just wanted to drop a line and let you know that I have greatly appreciated this hub for the last week or so and didn't want to just 'lurk' here. You guys/gals are a true inspiration. The battle is on and I look forward to the day when this is a 'had' moment.
-Sun
SuperHopeful - You need to do a liver cleanse. This is a good product -
http://www.achilleshealthmart.com/Natures/liver_cl
The liver is an organ that can actually rejuvenate itself. You just have to help it.
positive energies
Fat Harold - lol! You are crazy!
well I believe it has been around 6 weeks time since the big MMS2 release came out.... so those who did the HIV cure protocol for the 6 weeks using the MMS1 and the MMS2, can you please report how you are doing?? Thanks
PE: Yes, it does work. I'm hoping this H is a done deal really soon. I also think that you should just finish what you started. If you can still feel them in you then just stomp them out. Hard!
SuperHopeful, Onedayatatime and All: I'm wondering if the ribavirin is doing it's job. I may be too effective on it's target for some of us. We seem to forget that the nervous system comes from the brain. That may be why SuperHopeful got such a reaction. It could have gone throughout the nervous system seeking out this damn H bugga. It could've found them and went to war with them. Not to scare anyone but if H gets into the brain I can kill. There is a disease called PLEDS it's a form of Herpes encephalitis. It's Periodic Lateralized Epileptiform Discharges. It is no joke. This H isn't a blood born pathogen but it can get into the blood the closer it is to your head/brain. Say for instance you have a cut or a tooth abscess than happens the same time as your having an ob. If it gets in the cut and in the blood. It's just about lights out. That CANNOT be cured.
whats wrong with letting kim have the rest of your stash?
if your not going to use it then we can see if it stop her OB since she seems to have it the worst.
Fat Harold - Not a bad idea at all but first, why don't I see if I want to use it? Maybe you can give Kim the stash you are holding on too?
positive energeis
Well I thought you were not going to use the rest of yours.
Although I am worried about using it after reading what super hopeful says.
I have some really good silver coming and will try that next.
Rib. is my last resort.
PE, list the handles of the 14 people in NYC and see what they say about your claim and the words you are putting in their mouths. I know a couple of them may still be covered in fungus but that is not my fault it is yours Positiveenergies as you are the one telling them they have herpes and the ONLY reason they are not curing their fungus. Honest Hernest I will let Ashtree know what you have done with someone else's phone number. I guess now that Techie doesn’t need a cure for herpes there is no one here to keep you guys from acting like children.
I would like to publically thank the 300 people cured through True Cures but 280 are no longer looking for a cure and will not get this. They are enjoying a life free of sores and because they are cured of not only herpes but most importantly the fungus that caused their sores.
For those of you who are new here, the people here who have seen me no longer have herpes and that includes Positiveenergies. Most likely those who have seen me do not even have sores. If anyone who has seen me still has sores it is because they saw me before I realized that 95% of all herpes sores are not herpes at all but fungus or they still have sores because they are too arrogant to use antifungals correctly to eliminate their sores.
Six months ago there were three hundred people following this hub, now how many are following? There is only a couple from the 14 original ECC members from NY posting still because they know they are cured or need to eliminate fungus leaving nothing to talk about. Positiveenergies is hiding behind a handle and she cannot prove to a single one of you that she has sores, herpes or a positive IgG blood test.
You can keep mixing up your cocktail cures and passing along recipes but until you see me or start using antifungals you are going to waste your money and continue itching out of control.
http://hubpages.com/hub/herpes_or_fungus
I’m back by the way and I am going to bring Ashtree’s hub back to life.
Ashtree, despite the current state of your hub there are well over 200 people cured and free of all sores who owe you a whole lot of gratitude. You are the original herpes forum.
Yep TC cured me when he came to the Island of Tonga.
We had a good time there TC. The bongo girls wish you would come back for one last dance.
And the song you sang at the Kareoke bar was the show stopper!
well family.... i talked to the expert physician from that hospital....and didnt talk as client...he invited me to visit there first.. i told him i have a friend with HSV1 and 2. he told its not the net business.that is hospital and they have cured almost cases in china.and medical science never have guarantee, we use different gene therapy with chinese medicine.......
i do not have money right now to go there. so, i will go when i get money on my hand....but i am so hurry
if some one can support and trust me..i can go very soon.
and this is their web .....but all are in chinese
Hell yeah!!! TC is back!
In a world tipping over the edge were gonna give you people a hero !!!!!
TC... So glad to hear from you! 280 cured. That's great! 280... Yup quite an accomplishment! Now if you could just post the link to where all those negative blood tests are posted I'll fire off a cheque and you can cure me! What? No test results? Not one? 280 people and not even one of them are willing to go public for you. Ingrates! Now you don't suppose they are too embarrassed for falling for your nonsense to begin with do you? No I don't suppose you would. Now why don't you be a good little fraud and crawl back under your rock!
T C Stands for " TOTAL CRAP "
hi family.....i should try it first, it takes just 7 days but should be hospitalized and need alot of money...i am with big big confusion.. also expensive about and they are saying me , have great success to rid of virus but should be there..i am flat broke..but i am so hurry...i cant ask you first try it cause i am close to them...this hospital is real and sound is really great......they use 5 therapy day by day up to 7 days..but they cant give guarantee....just saying that they have cured almost cases who have come to hospital...
i need all of your support to do it.. it is not small things and also need alot of money,i just finished my student life..but i am real person..any way..i should take it but i am not sure when i can go there..thats all
kim..cali.....please dont lose yourself... it is not right way what you doing.. you should be in contact..we will find cure soon
email me ..take care all. take my search positive , i do my best cause i am also medical person...
gene therapy is very very good and they also do chinese therapy.. so i am hoping much and much...any way need to know alot..
True Con - First, you threatened to scratch people's eyes out and then you curse on this hub and now declare that Ashtree should ban someone else. You are the only one who has violated. YOU HAVE TOTALLY DISRESPECTED ASHTREE AND ALL THE FELLOW HUBBERS HERE! We all wish he would ban you.
The ONLY reason you are back is because - well 1) your herpes cures has outbreaks 2) your cancer cure has metasized 3) your HIV cure has full blown AIDS 4) your one man circus traveling show horse has lost its shoes 5) your dating site has autoerotic asphyxiation. 6) your youtube stunt was voted pathetic by Simon Cowell 7) All 50 of your hubs are DEAD. There are no survivors.
You are now offering to teach Kinesiology to anyone and the cost - Well, that's $5,000 for 2 weeks. We KNOW you! And we know you are here to hustle us.
You really want my name because you want to expose me and my medical condition on the internet - just like you did to another former client, Kim. Have you ever heard of HIPAA? Quite frankly, she should sue you for breach of confidentiality. You ARE in the health care business but exposed a client's name and health issues on a mass media. You have a established business, a web site offering services and receiving fees. She should sue you.
You on the other hand choose to post your name and address on your site so that people can send donations to you. Some of us - well, we just work and don't expect handouts.
One more question - Whom have you cured? Out of the hundreds you have seen, where are the negative results?
Anyone who can cure Herpes will be a multi-millionaire over night! You are still asking for donations.
BTW - The East Coast Group of 14 want our monies back!
Sir, you give a bad name to holistic treatment of any kind.
You are Desperate, Disreputable and dishonest.
Now, kindly let us get back to the business of curing ourselves!
positive energies
Canada25 - How are you doing on MMS? How much are you taking, how long and what are your symptoms. Any itching, creepy crawlies? Any anything?
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POS my friend, you should our brother TC break. Hes an honest man just like me.
You know I sell used cars on the side when I am not working with TC but nowadays were so busy curing people that I dont get to the lot to sell them much these days.
The point I am making is that business is good for us.
And curing people feels great!
Take a look at something here.
None of you followed TC's instructions.
Fat Harold didnt follow my instructions.
Some of the EC crew still ate carbs as well. Those who didnt are not on the hub and are cured. Like Jgurl.
LEE was totally cured by TC and so was BILL. They just wont admit it.
But its a nice sunny day here in Georgia and i have work to do.
bye bye
Hey all: I am very curios about this new cure from china. Bayern is there. But he just cannot afford a try at the moment. I believe this figth is all ours. Not only Bayern's. So I offer 50 USD help to Bayern to go try the cure. If 5 more of us can do the same he can try it and tell us if he is cured or not. We can make the same amount if we give 10 bucks 20-25 people. It would be much more expensive for us to go there by ourselves which would mean to pay for the flight, stay and the treatment for nothing if it is not true. But if we try it on Bayern and see that he is cured ( I want this so so so so much ) then we can go there for something real. What do you think ?
With love...
SoClose - I agree to donate to Bayern's treatment. Bayern -please send e-mail address so we can contact you and get your information to send money.
positiveenergies
Positiveenergies : I've always loved you ! ! ! :))
Positiveenergies : Could you please e-mail me at
okansezgin1987@gmail.com
Thanks.
every body listen ito me carefully, i did find it doing very hard searching job ...so as you interested you can open it and you can see every thing including real hospital and also can talk to them, but you should realize that china is poor for english, any way try as your best..
hope that help all of you..
i am posting this things for 3 days,, just three persons responced me..i can not understand what happened to others,,i am disappinted..and i no need to share this things here..
if no body wanna listen to me..
may be all are already cured and keeping silence.. if not this is not the way to find a cure together
thats all
request to all.. please you also can try to talk to them , i have already posted the websiide here and again
but china is very poor in english even doctor are engineer..
Honest Hernest - Maybe you remember me. Back in 1975, Back in Boysie, Idaho - I bought a little old red Ford Pinto from you with 300,000 miles. The car was all banged up but you said - looks are deceiving and she ran reeeaaaalll smooth! I sure took your advice and bought that beauty for all of $12,500.
Then you gave me a can of crazy glue and ran off real quick like. Shoulda know something was up then. Why before we even clear your lot - Well, the bumper fell off! I just smeared on some crazy glue, put that bumper back on and off we went.
Later on down the road - Well, the engine block fell out. That's when I knew - I had bought me a lemon. I headed straight to True Cures and he looked at that car, shooked his head and said - "CAR GOT FUNGUS!"
Well, Gee and Golly! The darn car did have fungus! The next time the radiator overheated, I sure went back to True Cures. Won't you know - The darn car had parasites!
I ain't buyin' no more cars from you Honest Ernest, because your cars always got some Fungus and Parasites. After, TC cured that car, I drove it for 500,000 more miles and won't you know it - The darn car has FUNGUS again.
Honest Ernest - I want my money back!
positive energies
Canada25, the link is http://hubpages.com/hub/Herpes_Cure.
Out of all this NEW posters only 10 have seen me. All the original Herpes_cure followers are CURED and LONG GONE.
Bayern, Jack the Lad, Soclose, positiveenergies, honest hernest, canada25, fat Harold, pooka, TrynTb, Time2fly, suntown,superhopeful,Kathleen,Onedayatatime, elmo,Captain Cloud, AVA, LA, denni, Joey-boy, 1marie, Jerry Springer, Bill, never2lateforhope, hopeful1, TrueCurescuresall, Jgurl, DDD, Jackbig, herbsmithy, Mas, kim, fighter2312,verydepress, albeit, giggling, Acva, Ash, Just asking, wecanwin, large marge, foreigner,OZ, lord platypuss, hope, anonymousg, prettybrowneyes, slice, Lee, rc2009, echelon, dust, federioco, Cali, tony, the boy from oxford, fromdrc, Dr.Goot,keeperofthefaith, Miss Dandy, futureMD, glum, 3d ya dig, chip, fat bob, herpes, leprechaun3, old man finley, NZ1 baby, 1mar, disappointed, out of USA, herpescure, c’mon, DUH, time4me2fly, Jessica, Mike phd,medboy, bedpostbilly, Eve2008, be, Ibelieve, Funky monkey, Yme2330, newbie, the boss, Since1982, nevergiveup, Oldmanhiggins, k-tel, tough year, someone, R, Stevie Wonder, Medusa, xxl, slutof78”#4
I’ve seen Positiveenergies, fat Harold, Hopeful1, Jgurl, Kim, slice, rc2009, Jessica, Ibelieve and Kathleen. Please correct me if I missed someone. None of these people have herpes. If they have itches and sores it is because they do not know how to follow directions. I know some of these people do not have any itches and sores but are just here to visit and that is OK. Jgurl, Jessica, Kathleen, Slice, RC2009 if you have issues you have a couple of choices see me again and then like the other 294 people you can get on with your life and forget about the talk of herpes. If over-the-counter products do not stop the itch and sores get a doctor to prescribe a topical antifungal it has helped many clients with tough sores. If you cannot get rid of your sores with antifungals you have no choice but to see me again. I saw the Florida group first, kim and fat Harold and at that time I let you people convince me that I was helping you cure herpes so I didn’t treat you for anything other than candida. NCY was second and I was not any wiser about the fact that YOU New Yorkers had sores from fungus not herpes. My last trip to NJ was 100% effective as far as we can tell. Stopped all outbreaks and there.
truecures.com
Bayern: I hear your you and this may be cause for concern. I don't like the fact that some of here are not doing research them selves. They rely on others like you to do it. It's not fair. Yes, you ar a Dr. Nevertheless, we must all contribute to the cause that is the ultimate cureall for us all. It would be messed up if some of the others that were on this hub got a cure and felt the same way. Maybe they got a cure and felt no one else helped them do the research and just silently backed away. It is possible. I don't have a lot of money but I can send you something to help us all.
Don't be upset and not post what you find. You are like some of us here; you give from your soul and expect some responses in return, but get very few. I just posted something we all need to be concerned about. But got no responses at all. Life goes on for us though. We just keep trooping along. Herpes Encephalitis is very real. I know I've seen it several times. There is no cure for it once it enters the brain. I deal with the brain and know first hand.
Soclose: I'm with your. We must do something to help. If Bayern is cured. It could mean literal death to H.
All: A cure may not come from the outside. It may come from within this. Think about it. It is my belief that we are the ones that will cure this bug right here on this hub.
Lets reverse the H!
Tryin 2 B - While taking Resolve, I got the most awful throat infection and had to be treated with anti-biotics. The doctor though I had H1 but I only have H2. Apparently, Resolve spread the virus to other parts of my body. I began noticing pain in the shoulders etc and I do sometimes have a throbbing ear. All thanks to Resolve. Most of my other symptoms are gone and I believe this will go when my body is finally cured of the virus.
I did the research and Herpes Encephalitis is no joke. Thanks for the tip.
Also, most people get tired of not finding a cure and stop posting. Only the die hard, stubborn ones continue. I can only recall Keeper of the Faith and RC actually being cured by optimizing their immune system. All other cures from Resolve such as Cali, Fighter and one other turn out to be false.
We are still reaching for the cure. Do not get discourage by us, but sometimes we still need to laugh at this virus or curl up in a ball and start crying.
positive energies
TC, PE and All: You know all this back and forth is really pathetic. Every time tc comes here it contaminates this site with the vial rhetoric. And what we do is draw ourselves into it. Isn't this site supposed to be about an H cure. Every time we respond to this wanker we get side lined. C'mon people think think think. We need to get back on track. The sooner we ignore this ignoramus then we refocus ourselves.
Tryin 2 b - : I'm with you as always buddy. We should encourage the ones working hard not only for themselves but us all. This way it will be also cheaper (for the ones who chip in) to examine the treatment with one person we know ! We don't have to collect money and go there for something we don't know if it's real. Bayern is ready there. He didn't ask for help. I offered him and I know you, positive energies and I are on the same side to check this thing. I believe something positive will come out of it. Because the hospital is specialised on urology !
Hey All : Let's all support Bayern and we'll soon find out that it is for real I hope ! Then we will all come together in China and celebrate the cure :)
Some other thing. I haven't seen TC. I wanted to but couldn't. I will still be around to help the others when I'm cured but I'm not yet.
With love...
PE: You are right. We do need to laugh from time to time. And Herpes Encephalitis is no joke. I do get the same feeling that resolve did exactly what you said to most people who took it. It spread it around. I hope it doesn't have harmful chemicals in it. You should sue them.
Sarah Palin: Now that is really funny as all hell. Good idea.
Captain Cloud: I see you've figured out TC's cure.
Soclose: You are so right. Bayern is already in China and he has my support. A few dollars from some or all of us goes a long way. Just imagine how much money we've already put out and didn't find a cure.
Bayern: How much money for the full hospital stay in us currency does it cost you buddy? I haven't heard the final price.
Lets reverse the H!
Hi everybody.
Besides the TC stuff this hub is really great. It has helped me tremendously. BTW I am doing massive Vita C, and starting IV-C next week. Supposedly the Lypo-Spheric I am taking is better than IV, but we'll see.
-Sun
suntown: Hello, glad to see your post. Perhaps we are doing simliar things. I'm getting UVBI and Vitamin C IV treatments weekly and am now up to 5 treatments. After 10 treatments I'll test and post my results on this hub. Where do you buy your Lypo-Spheric? How do you know it is better than IV? Is it more concentrated? How many mgs of Vit C do you take daily? I also orally ingest megadoses of Vit C. Good for you! Keep us posted if you can. Take care.
Kathleen:
You can go to TomLevyMD.com and see videos where he is addressing a conference, it's in there somewhere. He advocates doing both, but mentions the penetration into the cells that the Lypo has.
I'm on about 20G/day now and will start IV next week. I get it from LuckyVitamins.com/standard delivery was fast and it gets cheaper the more you buy.
-Sun
ok family, let le say clearly about money to this hospital..they said at least 1000 yuan to to 4000 yuan us currency about 150 dolor to 700 dolor and depends on how much dose needs to the person as case severity and duration of infection...and also need some few to live and eat for a week.
so i have no idea, i have some but i afriad of going, i may not able to pay this much this time.
but i am thinking to visit first..so all who are willing to help me..i really do not need your money to cure me..i just asking you for my trip there to find the real clue.and i should stay there at least 2 night and i try to meet the patient who is talking this treatment there.
bayern
i could come out there and do this and if you could help me out I would pay for you.
But I cant be sitting in a hospital bed for a week if I am not hurt. I would go crazy.
Fat....of course,, i can help you every thing here, and you also can live with me in my home...and i can be your good guide but i am worry about one thing. you come from this far away if treatment get failure.. you will be much hurt and also spent alot of money. so best way is let me do fist..
any way if you really willing to come, welcome you and you wont have any problems in china, i am here..but you make a mind to some here for a travel what makes you happy.. then we can live hospital at the same time. take care
Ps... I am still going strong! No OB's at all, still feel totally cured! I just moved overseas to Dubai from Sydney which has been a stressful preparation but I'm finally here now. Lots of traveling and sleepless night... loads of celebratory drinks and late nights out and not eating right... and still no signs of H.
Before, I would get an OB every time I had a late night out on the piss... now nothing!
Anyway, just wanted to report in! Best of luck everyone!
Pss... Truecures is an idiot!
Hey everybody. I've been away for a while. I was out of work, but I just started a new contract a few weeks ago & they've been working my butt off. I haven't had time to do much.
I've not started my treatment prescribed by the alt. doctor, but like Jessica, I did purchase the cleanser & chlorphyl - which is a prerequisite for the therapy. (The chlorophyl was prescribed for me, but not Jessica) The total cost was almost $200 for my 1st visit & the cleansers. I still plan on going through with the therapy (unless someone comes up with a cheaper, easier cure before I do). I just haven't had the time to comparison shop nor the money to collect all the supplements needed. Make no mistake, I'm still on a mission.
Right now I'm taking milk thistle, & basic vitamins like vit C, b-complex, zinc etc. I eat a lot of garlic. Garlic has got to be one of the best natural antivirals God made. I think my obs have slowed down because I eat well & I eat a lot of garlic & virgin olive oil.
I can't say enough about VSC-TM (concentrated). It's working quite well for my son. He's a freshman in college & they've had several cases of H1N1 & other flu. His roommate was sick as a dog the 2nd week of school & my son didn't get sick. Then the other guys in his suite got really sick & my son still remained healthy. That was over a month ago with him taking just 1 VSC-TM a day. (I started him with 1 a day to make sure he could tolerate it with no problems) I knew things would get worse, so I had him start taking two VSC-TM a day a couple of weeks ago. Well RIGHT NOW MOST of his dorm is quite ill along with tons of other students & he's NOT sick at all! He said to me, "Mom, I need some more VSC fast! I'm running out. It's so amazing. EVERYBODY- I mean EVERYBODY around me is really sick & I'm not. They're all looking at me & asking me WHY/HOW ARE YOU NOT SICK? How is that possible?" I laughed & told him to tell people, "it's an ancient chinese secret". lol. No honestly, I've told everyone who will listen how good VSC is for your immune system. I never could get my son to take vitamins consistently when he was little. So for him to take the VSC daily & THEN ask for more says a lot. I was worried he wouldn't take it all. I made a believer out of my son. When he forgot to take more VSC back to college with him, he called & said he was taking vitamin C in the meantime because he was scared he'd get sick. The last time he was home, I stocked him with VSC, zinc, super b-complex & more vitamin C.
I say all this to say that I believe VSC has great potential & it really builds your immune system-which is really what really helps your body heal. Like Pos said, I don't buy that crap about weakening your immune system (like resolve did) to get cured. That makes no sense at all.
never2late4hope: Please be careful. I wouldn't advise you to do the therapy we've been told without knowing the details. You must do a cleanser first. The alt doc said everyone should be doing cleansers every 3 months whether you're sick or not. Also, after the week of heavy silver shield, there are like 5 other herbs you need to take for a month with the VSC-TCM. Also, do not take glycerized licorice for long periods of time (it can cause abrupt blood pressure changes/heart problems). They have a de-glycerized form of licorice that you can take for longer periods, but it's NOT effective against H. For H you need the glycerized licorice. I did not get an ob when I took it & olive leaf extract.
Ashtree: THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TO TC!!!! I love it! We're ALL fed up!
NOW TO MR True Cures: WHY are you here Mr.Nobody-can-be-cured-unless-they've-seen-me? WHY are you still perpetuating your lies??? HOW DARE you say that we're all cured? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I AM NOT CURED!!!! STOP LYING ON ME & OTHERS! TAKE MY NAME OFF YOUR LIST of cured people! The last time I checked, NOBODY else from the ECC is cured either. If they were cured, why is everyone still looking for a cure, Einstein? STOP claiming that the reason members of the ECC are not posting any more is because you've cured them. YOU HAVE NOT CURED ANY OF US. There are all kinds of reasons for people not posting. Sometimes we just need a break & we're sick of people like YOU. I've even given you the benefit of the doubt by trying anti-fungals as you promoted- and guess what? I STILL have what YOU call "fungal" outbreaks. I just don't get on here & cry about it. I've been tested & my IG numbers are higher than they've EVER been since doing resolve & seeing you. BTW, Some people have tested negative with the same IG tests that said they were positive. Therefore, I believe that although the IG tests may only test for antibodies, when you are cured, the antibodies eventually go away & you will test neg. So stop with your "tests will never say you're negative" excues. I believe antibodies are not there for life. If they were, why do people need booster shots???? Look TC, just do us all a favor & leave us alone. Can you do that? Thank you in advance.
"Lies run sprints, but the TRUTH runs marathons!"
-Michael Jackson
Hi everybody. Just checking in....Thanks to all the troopers out there keeping it REAL..I am doing some experiment now so i don't post much, but will let you know if i succeed.....i know its a lot of stuff floating around right now..
Positive Energy.....I love your posts to TC...LOL...LOL...LOL...Keep that fire on his azz...
TC....FYI we are still here and still interested in a cure, but not the kind of bullsh!t that you're peddling...TC you can REALLY save the world by getting a REAL job, so you can get off people's faces with your scam....Sometimes it strikes me that you have mental ilness, why? You continue to come in here with the same foolishness, though you know some here have tried your so-called cure and have confirmed it to be a scam...Are you that desperate for cash? Damn!!!!!!!
True Cures - I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT POST UNDER ASHTREE'S HANDLE. THAT THE LOW LIFE STUFF THAT YOU DO. I HAVE MORE ETHICS!
For the person posting as Ashtree - I should tell you that Ashtree can determine who you are by simply checking the IP address that comes up with each post. Therefore, if you don't want to be banned - I would suggest you stop immediately.
positive energies
ASHTREE - On behalf of the hubbers, I am asking you to block True Cures from this hub. True Cures originally came here a few months ago and attempted to steal away your hubbers and eventually scammed a lot of us.
True Cures brings a lot of negativity and associated anger that disrupts the very purpose of this hub. This is the very reason he has been kicked out CUREZONE and several other sites.
A few months ago you deleted posts (mine included) because you did not like the on-going True Cures and Resolve rant and the dissoultion of your hub's true purpose. Now we are right back there again.
I am also asking you to block True Cures from posting here and advertising his proven fradulent services. By your non-interference you are actually giving him permission to
1) advertise his scams on your hub 2) defraud YOUR hubbers. This gives the appearance of collusion. I KNOW that is NOT your intent but your hands off approach suggest otherwise.
True Cures has a slew of hubs that have no business because he is a scam. He comes to this hub specifically to drum up business and he is being allowed to do so without your monitoring or interference.
You said this hub's true purpose it to discuss cures and find that elusive cure - then why are you allowing fradulent sellers to use your hub for their business?
Dr.C comes on this hub and advertises his products but he does not engage in hustling as True Cures does. He provides scientific facts, his web site address and he is gone. He does not engage in anything fraudulent or derogatory behavior.
It's is time for you to act in a decisive mannmer.
positive energies
Bayern, I will support any way I can--just let us know what you need.
Bayern - I tried to contact hosptial by using their website service but I do not think they understand english.
SoClose - I read the info and think this sounds very promising. But this is not cheap. I also checked out the airfare to China from New York and it come around $5300 - and that's for coach. I guess this will cost us around USD $8000. If this works for Bayern, then I am on-board.
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SOOOO...... if we can stay on task here and get back to business ignoring those posts that need to be ignored..... I would like to know who (if anyone) has been doing the MMS1 & MMS2 combination treatment as recently posted by Jim Humble? I thought I remembered 2 people doing that treatment???? The website said 6 weeks of the treatment was curing the uncurable......
bayern, I don't look at this forum everyday, and I don't post on every comment, but please do not have any fear, I am behind you in all of your efforts. I do care about your safety, and do not want you to feel you have to pay large amounts of money you do not have for a "cure" that may not work. If you feel comfortable with this hospital and they can show you proof of cured, then I'm sure we can all rally behind you with financial donations so you can try it. That would be awesome.
But even if it does work, (which I hope it does for you), I would not be able to afford to come there and do it myself because I just don't have the money either. For those who do, this could be your chance!
Hey POS.
see if we can get some type of group rate? if we all go together?
I know Ava will go and maybe a few others.
Two more cents...if you check hotwire.com I found airfare from JFK to Beijing for about $1200 r/t. Of course that is just airfare, and may not be close to where you want to go, but it's worth looking at.
Thank you for your posts, Bayern.
I concur with Time2fly and Fat Harold and suntown and everyone else who said they will support Bayern, such as Soclose and Positiveenergies . I would be willing to go with a group for a good group rate from NYC to China if Bayern can let us know that this cure he's been researching truly works. But I wouldn't be able to go until January, when I save up some money. $1,200 doesn't sound bad. (I'm still hoping my UVBI + Vit C IV works, but if it doesn't, I'd like to go to China to get cured.)
I still have herpes (and I've tried a lot of things)...I completely disregard whatever anyone says about me that is the opposite of this! I truly do want to be cured.
BTW - Ashtree is female.
Bayern, I do read the hub everyday and I am also behind you in all of your efforts. I agree with Time2fly that if you feel comfortable with this hospital and they can show you proof of a cure, I too will help you with financial donations so you can try it. Yes, it would be awesome. Bayern, thank you so much for all your research and input.
Thank you again, suntown, for your info on Vit C. Have you had IV before? A tip: drink TONS of water.
Thanks for your info, iBelieve, on the TCM VS-C and the other protocol you are doing. I hope it works, please keep us posted. How is Jessica doing?
Hope everyone is doing well.
Kathleen-thanks for the tip. Never done it before.
Kathleen. Your getting teh Vit C IV's currently? Are you still having OB's while doing this?
Suntown - Thanks for the tip. I checked American Airlines and the airfare was way too high. I am glad you checked hotwire.com. I am willing to organize a group rate with hotwire when we are all sure about this.
As soon as Bayern is cured - the group will be Positive Energies, Fat Harold, Ava, SoClose, Kathleen, Suntown, and others.
SoClose - Please provide us with Bayern's e-mail address so we can send the money for him to get the treatment. He is our test subject here.
Kathleen - I have been in contact with FaithRN for an update. FaithRN has been doing oxygen treatments. She is a registered nurse and has done extensive research on this subject. Here is Faith's update on November 4, 2009.
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I just thought I would pass on this information.
positive energies
"Hey,
Hope your doing well. No...10-12 ozone treatments is no where near enough for a cure!! Everyone is different, but ozone will take months-if not a year or more of DAILY use...this means buying your own $3,000-$4,000 medical grade generator and doing treatments on yourself every single day. Injection, insufflation, etc. Also need to know how to do injection and a means of getting the needles, etc.
Feel free to post on the hub on my behalf. I don't get on there anymore."
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Just thought I should pass on this information.
positive energies
all dear friends..so much thanks for your kind support...i was really in big big confusion....but i made a decision to visit hospital first....so, i am going to see them in real and will find many many real things...
yes...i just finished my student life.. so i have no money.. but i cut down my food and do it right now...sorry friends..i didnt feel good to ask you money first cause i am still not sure it is cure or another scam. like a gh
capture,after collect money from you.what can i do. if it is just ascam..so, i am request you all..let me go to the hospital first. i visit them as doctor to find the clue..
and if i got the real as they explained me,i start the treatment. and you can help me if i need ..
trust me please... i do myself and my best...
another things who are worry to fly here... i can`t see its a problem...there are many cheaper flight from china to USA..and i am here...you do not need spend much money in china.. i am sure if that is cure.. i can invite you all to china and i will be together with you..and i do my best to save your money during in china.
i hope you all love me and remember me..
you can email me what ever you want to know about this hospital...take care
fat...i hope you call me once. soon..
ok this is my email address madhabg100atyahoo.com
i again talked to another doctor from the same hospital... he request me to trust them and they have cured many casesand now also having treatment at this hospitals..and he did heartly welcome me to visit there,,then i will know all better then talking via phone..
so good sound and i can not wait,, but i still afriad to trust any body until get cured,, but no choice.. so i am going, going, friends....i will not be able to play internet and those who had already contacted me via email...i have given you my ph number,, you can call me any time..and i may ask your help when my pocket will be empty.....
take care
Bayern: Thank you again for always going the extra mile. It's very noble of you. The information you obtain will be a giant step either way we look at it. If you need us we are here for you. Even though we haven't met...I still will remember you. You stand out so much with your kind words and gestures. We speak different languages but we are all on the same page nevertheless. You are a hero in you own right. As stated before. You have my donation if needed. I am here in this war just like the rest of us. We are all the same. In my house I'm lonely, but not when I hit this hub. We all know one another here...although I'm still kind of new here. God bless you on your journey bro.
Time2fly: I did the 3 week protocol along with Soclose. For me I just missed the last 2 days. I got too sick on it. I also caught a cold while I was on it. That started a few days after I started it and lasted til past when I finished. I thought it was supposed to get rid if virus'. Am I correct? I haven't done any blood work due to mishap. So next week I'll see what gives. Hopefully it will be 2 more cured. If not we'll just just troop on to the next phase.
fat-harold: No, I no longer get outbreaks and I haven't had any since I started the Vit C IV's and the UVBI treatment.
Positiveenergies: I hope she gets cured soon. Thank you for giving me her update.
Bayern, please keep us posted. Thanks again for all your help and input.
fat-harold: No, I no longer get outbreaks and I haven't had any since I started the Vit C IV's and the UVBI treatment.
Positiveenergies: I hope she gets cured soon. Thank you for giving me her update.
Bayern, please keep us posted. Thanks again for all your help and input.
Positiveenergies : Hi. Bayern has given his e-mail address but its not associated with a paypal account. I will speak to him via mail and when he creates a paypal account or shows another way to send him money I'll do it.
With love...
Kathleen- how often did you get OB's before you started the program?
China Bound Crew - Assuming Bayern gets cured - Is everyone going to get tested before we go?
Bayern - We already love you.
positive energies
I have been tested once. I would like to plan for this the first of the year if that works for us.
I think it would be good to go as a group as it would be safer.
But lets get a confirmation that its a cure before we all waste our time.
SoClose: I recently emailed you (unsolicited sorry) about donating to Bayern for his investigations, etc. Please let me know how I can.
Hope everyone is well.
PE: I aggree but how do we even know that Ashtree is even reading this? TC should be banned!
We also should get tested prior. It would be nice if some of us are cured now.
Soclose: I aggree with the paypal account. Once that's established then that's my route.
When do you plan on repeating your bloodwork?
Kathleen: I hope you get no more ob's since it's working for you. I only ob every 5 months regardless what I eat or drink. It's good in a way but bad in a way also. Because I have to wait until I ob. I stopped taking Lysine. I may not need it. I'm sticking to the coctail I mentioned above until January then maybe get tested if no ob occurs...then again...I may test next week like I started just to see.
Lets reverse the H!
Good Luck to you all..
Lets not get in over our heads with Bayern.
Give him just enough to do this but lets not all spend lots of money to fly out like you all did with TC.
Bayern do you have recurrent OB's or not?
If you do then we can just watch to see if they stop then proceed.
But if you dont then a blood test is hard to go by because it may take ten years before you antibody count goes down.
Some of you are still holding on to the lie that resolve used to say, that after 90 days your body will drop in antibodies.
That was just a selling point and as we all know resolve was a scam.
In fact you may never lose those anitbodies. Then again maybe one day you will but not until a lot of time has gone by.
So Bayern, please answer -do you get recurrent OB's and how far apart are they?
http://www.curativegarlic.com/articles/garlic_for_
here is a good article about the use of garlic for H.
TC - You are not fooling anyone. The only one that posts a link to your website - is well, you. Why do you come back on here with phony handles? Have you been banned? Stick to making those horrendous videos that nobody watches. Or maybe even - better yet - sigh.... get a job.
Hi Everyone/ Bayern,
Sounds like a plan Fat Harold. I'm able to converse in Mandarin as well so if the plan is to go, we should perhaps arrange to meet in China and visit it together. Would definitely be welcome to do it with some others rather than alone too. I've been to China alot for work and think it shouldn't be a problem for me to arrange for everyone to move around etc as well. And it would be much better to go as a group to share expenses like food and transport etc.
Maybe we should send out email to everyone interested and we can make the arrangements together. I'll likely meet you guys there in China.
My email is jackbig01@gmail.com
Regards.
Ashtree is definitely reading this. She deletes every post that I place asking other hubbers to post about banning TC. Ashtree has a great hands off ploicy but history has shown it does not always work. That's why she had to delete the hub before. There was way too much drama.
TC posted that he can make Ashtree's hub numbers go up. Now, Ashtree MAYBE (NOT SURE) getting paid by the advertisers for products advertised on her hub and that is usually based on hits.
Ashtree has to decide what is the TRUE purpose of her hub 1) To seek for a cure thereby helping people or 2) to allow rabble rousers like TC who comes here to scam HER hubbers and fill his pockets.
Sorry Ashtree, that is the decision. Please don't delete this one too.
Hubbers - Let's keep on asking to ban TC. We all know he will be back hustling and nasty as ever. Tme for TC to get a real job!
positive energies
POS I am on several other hubs that are not related to this topic.
Your right about drama. I have never seen a hub like this one before.
Its kinda funny though, it gives this hub its own personality.
I just wish more of the old hubbers would come back. Even Scambusta.
fat-harold: Thanks for the article. It was a cool read. Drama IS good sometimes. I'd rather it not be here with soomething so serious as H. I'll have fun later. We have no time to waste. And I have a great sense of humor tooo. Feel me?
TC: It's a shame that your stupidity runs in flocks! IDGIT!i!i!i!i!
captain cloud: I'm with you. We need to take a wait and see approach. I'm down to go if it comes to that.
jackbig: I'm with you too. I'll send my email to you.
Kathleen: Sorry...the Lypo site I get it from is Quick2You.com, I get a bunch of other stuff from Lucky Vitamin but I just got a box of Lypo and realized the mistake. Just got a 25g IVC, going back in a couple of days.
Can someone tell me about this Lypo treatment?
Hi Harold. This is basically vitamin C that penetrates deeper because it can reach the cells almost intact. Its called liposomal I think. You can go to LivOnLabs.com for one type and info, they are pretty pricey though. Theirs is called Lypo-Spheric.
TC appears to be very desperate...The recession has caused people to be tight with money...Therefore, scammers have to try harder...LOL...LOL...LOL...
Fat Harold - what are you taking now?
5000mg of garlic and pycnoginal and reservatol.
so far no OB but I am not due one for a few more weeks.
I think I am going ot either get some of teh Vit.C IV's or the lypo C product as well.
I also have some really good silver coming in the mail.
has anyone been using the lypo C and been able to stay OB free?
fat-harold: What kind of silver are you getting and where are you buying it? Is it the kind iBelieve is taking? To answer your earlier question, I normally get OB's once a month (when the Monthly Monster feels like visiting me), but haven't found any in a while except yesterday I was sore a little down south, yet not sure if it was an OB or what because it seemed different than usual. I will be willing to go to China in January, also. Hopefully we can get a group and go. Jackbig and you have been before, so has Ava. I'm sure I will not have a clue as to how to get around there. But I will do anything to get cured if these UVBI and Vit C IV's don't cure me quickly enough by January. I will start saving what little money I do have. I have emailed Jackbig and Bayern to let them know I am interested. I think a Paypal that Soclose says to use would be good to help Bayern. I will contribute as much as I can. Every little bit helps.
suntown, thanks again for your info! :) I will see if I can afford to get some lypo C. I think I got a similiar brand a while ago, will have to check and see. It was good stuff. Hope your IV was good and you don't have baby veins like I do, and that you didn't bruise as badly as I did. See if you can get the nurse to wrap your arm with some of that good tape. I've been doing that and no more bruises. Also remember to drink more water. :) I'm going to get my sixth IV and UVBI tomorrow, you see I do UVBI with my C IV's. I'm going to get a total of 10 and the alt doc said that would cure me. 10 or more since everyone's different. How many IV's are you planning on getting? Does your alt doc have testimonials for people cured with these C IV'? Sorry for all the questions, thanks in advance for your thoughts and input and answers.
Hope everyone's having a good day. As Tryin 2 B says: Let's Reverse the H! Yeah!
True Con - Yeah, sure - I am scared. Will you be posting as yourself or as one of your alter egos - Big Gay John? BTW -You are sounding more and more desperate. Money must be tight. Do you know McDonald's is hiring!
Hubbers - Let us all IGNORE True Cures posts. Let's turn out back on him. Let him rant and rave and let's us ALL ignore the ignoramus.
Then there will be no drama and no increase in traffic on this hub. True Cures take your drama and your lies back to your dead hub!
Go on TC - post your LIES now!
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Hope all are well.
Kathleen: The place that I go to is out of convenience, the guy is a D.O., so I haven't asked them specific questions. I just want the juice. I need to go back to the NE to get both treatments simultaneously, soon enough. Honestly I would do this as long as necessary to slay this thing but will start with 10 (2x/wk for 5 wk), and will probably keep some form of it up continuously for a strong immune system-1 or 2x/month. I am taking a combo of the Lypo, Ascorbic Acid, and Sodium Ascorbate, and now the IV and want to do that for 4-6 weeks. I am glad you've gotten such positive feedback about success stories.
ibelieve
thanks for the info. do you or Jessica have the list of herbs? I am doing colon hydrotherapy for 2 months now and will continue along with normal cleansing
thanks
adding information to my post does anyone have the protocol/list of herbs and sequence to take them in for the vs-c and silver shield (15 bottles 5 days)
Thanks
Hey y'all, i will just like to say that I'm down for going to China in January as soon as Bayern is cured n posts his result. i've taken vsc-tcm concentrate for 2 months now n have also taken lysine and recently added lecithin and garlic n yet i feel the nerve pain today as if an ob is coming on. i've taken extra lysine n will prolly take another before going to bed but am seriously tired of this for real. Please God have mercy on us and rid us of H!
What about taking MMS and some other things like the Vit C IV's while at the same time taking things like resolve which causes OB's to draw the virus out and kill it that way?
Here's a couple of cents:
I believe in MMS, but it's impossible to do any mega-dosing Vita C with it because it gets cancelled out. I have no experience with that "R" product but from what I've read it can go either way on how badly you react, some say they are worse now so I'm not willing to chance that.
Oh believe me, its a good thing for the people at Resolve that I found this hub and found out that they are a scam before I bought it.
But you TC.......YOUR ASS IS MINE!!!!
Hey All: I was kind of curious and looked up a supplement that repairs nerve damage. I came accross Thiamine inwhich is Vit B1. This vit I hope can also help us to repair what this damn H biotch! I'm getting tired but will look for some others tomorrow.
Let's reverse the H!
Hey all : I'm really thinking to go to china. I'll wait for Bayern to go and investigate first but I think I won't wait till someone gets cured with that.
I've spoken to the guys from the hospital and asked many questions. It is really hard to communicate with them because of their English. Then I've spoken to Bayern. He is trying to collect the money to be able to go there. As I've written on the hubs before this is our thing not only his. I offer 50 USD to him and need 150 USD more to make his visit possible. He will first go there and ask as much as possible to give us feedback about what it really is. I have his info which we need to send him money via western union. We have to act together right now. If 10 people except me would chip in 15 bucks, there would be no problem for him to go there. Anybody willing to help him go there and ask for all of us please contact me on
okansezgin1987 at gmail dot com
you can also add me on msn okan.sezgin at hotmail dot com
Come on people there is hope!!!
tell bayern to get a paypal account.
i have no problems helping him out.
Fat Harold - You can send Bayern money via money gram or western union. He does not need to get a paypal account. I think the transactions can also be done via computer.
Suntown - Please refer to this hub
http://hubpages.com/hub/HERPES-CURE-THAT-WORK-AND-
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fat haroldd : bayern does not have a credit card so he cannot have a paypal account. write an e-mail to me so that I can share his info with you.
thanks...
Hello. Hope all are well.
So I just sent Bayern $30 to keep this thing rolling. The sooner he investigates, the sooner we know what to do next. The baton has been passed...
I coming to China with you all as well.
DDD- hows it coming with the lecithin?
Super-how did it go with the Ribivirin?
Suntown : Thanks for your support. You were so fast that I felt ashamed that I haven't sent him anything yet :) Tomorrow first thing in the morning I'll send 50 to him. After tomorrow we will be lacking 120 more. Come on people this is our thing for now. If this comes out as the real cure we'll have done it here all by ourselves. Come oooon !
I'm very excited.
With love...
Soclose -I agree with you man!
Out of the millions who gave up we will have made it out of the trap!!!!
When is bayern going for his treatment?
Hello family-am a bit depressed today00this just has a way of getting someone down. My prayer is dat bayern be successful.
hi family....i am getting fever.and i am sick now. i will go to this hospital as soon as possible after making money..
so please for this kind of things, contact with soclose..take care
LA: I know what you mean, every day without depression is a blessed day for me. Some days are better than others, and sometimes it is hard to JUST roll with the punches.BUTTT.Just know that.. no matter what,"life goes on, and we have to go on with it..
Don't get me wrong I am not saying give up on a cure..(I will never do that) I am saying don't give up on you..My heart goes out to you..
Cali: Where u at?
Ava-where is Cali?
KIM: What is up chick?
Ava : Bayern will go to the hospital immediately after we send him all the money he needs. I'm now going out for western union. With the money I'll send, we'll have sent him 80USDs. 120 to go. Please help. This is our war and we are all gonna win ! ! !
With love...
Soclose
Why dont we all just Paypal it to one perspon then that person can send the lump sum to bayern?
I think it would be much easier.
captain cloud : yesss ! this is the spirit we need !!! :) We'll do it I believe.
fat-harold : The way we send it does not matter. We are just trying to make the sum 200 USDs. I've sent my 50 and we need 120 more. 10 people send a sum of 120 or only one does it, it is ok . Both serves our aim. Your way we would make western union less rich, I'd like that cause here they had me pay 15 usd more for the expenses !!! You can organize it or who ever organizes it is ok for me. Please just collect 120 more and do it as you like :)
Come on people. It would be great to have this thing finished till next monday so that Bayern would go visit the hospital next week. He says he is a little sick I hope he gets well soon enough.
With love...
Denni - hi. No worries. Cali is doing great. We are both doing our garlic regimen everyday and things are going well. I will let you know you were asking about her. I plan to call her tonight. Thanks.
soclose- do you have paypal? I can send it to you. I dont have his info to wire it but you seem to know how to do that.
Hope all are well.
Kathleen: I just got a Vita C book by Dr. Levy. If you want I can scan and send you a few pages of interest, just let me know your email. Just got another IVC.
SoClose - I will be sending Bayern $50 via money gram or western union. I have his info.
Large Marge - Welcome Aboard!
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What are the chances that TC will be n China that week?
How I would love that.....
suntown: my email is minajazz67@yahoo.com
Thank you so much. How many IV's are you up to now? How many do you think it will take to cure you? Just got my sixth one yesterday. I might also have some stuff to send to you as well on Vit C. Are you also going to do UVBI's? They are helping me, too.
Bayern, I will wire a little money to help you, I got the info from Jackbig. I want to help you as much as I can and I know that every little bit helps.
I'd be willing to go to China, but am having money issues. Trying to start businesses on the internet, so maybe by January I'll be able to afford to go. BTW does anyone on here know anything about how to improve traffic to their blog or how to improve SEO? I've done a blog (not about H) and I am trying to make some income doing this but cannot even get much traffic to my blog. Thanks for any insight on this.
DENNI!!!!! why are you not around anymore???
can i get bayerns info? I will send him something too.
fat harold : e-mail me and I will e-mail you back Bayerns info
okansezgin1987 at gmail dot com
I could do the transfer for you but here they have charged me 15 USDs to send him 50 USDs. I think it will be cheaper for you to send your money from there.
Positiveevergies : Thanks a lot for your support. After you send your money we will have collected 130 USD so 70 USD will be left to go :) Come on people please be quick so that Bayern goes there the next week !
Kathleen : I don't know how to make a traffic to your hub but just write here the url of your blog. I will be checking it I promise.
With love...
Soclose
thats my point on using paypal. we all paypal the money to one person and then he sends the whole sum to bayern.
Every silver company claims their silver is the only one that works but regardless the video on this companies site seems promising.
Soclose: I have $50. for Bayern. Please email me his info. So, now I believe we only need $20 for "our" journey. Hope all is well.
To all: I do believe that we need to come up with a better solution for this. Just randomly sending money isn't the answer. It should be much better coordinated so that nothing gets lost in the mix. If we end up sending more then we need to then it's cool with me. Atleast we will know he can eat while there.
Bayern: I hope you feel better really soon. Watch out for the H1N1. I really hope that's not it. I think it should be Soclose. Just my opinion. Comments anyone?
Large Marge: You are funny as hell. That would be something if TC was there right?! Then I'll just watch you beat dat bitc* wit a bat.lol
can someone sum up this situation with bayern? I read back but still cant understand his post. All I know is everyone is talking about a hospital and going to china.....
Hello everyone,
I have posted a couple of times within the past year. Some of you are doing a lot of talk about IV vitamin C and I think its UBVI. Ok I know this may be a dumb question but exactly what is IVC and UBVI? And I am in Los Angeles California, does anyone know where I can get these treatments out here?
TC has whipped out another hub. Now he is talking about bringing down the pharmaceutical companies, health insurance companies, hospitals and doctors of medicine and putting the money saved in our pockets.
Good ole' TC. :) He may be an arrogant ass but he does come up with some pretty interesting points I find hard to dispute.
Tryin 2 b - : Check your e-mail buddy. I will send you Bayern's info i a couple of minutes. Then I will request you to send the code ( or control number ) to my e-mail address or Bayern's. That way he'll go get the money. Thanks a lot for your support.
fat harold : You can pay pal me the money but as an example if you send 20 to me I would pay 15 usds expenses to send the money to China ! This is a strange country where I live. So it would be much better if you can organize and do the pay pal thing with Tryin 2 b - , positive energies or any other person from any country besides Turkey :)
positive energies and tryin 2 b - : Please write here when you do the transfers.
Hey all : 20 USDs left to go ( after positive energies and tryin 2 b - send their contributions ) . Thanks a lot for your support till now. It was quicker than I thought.
With love...
Hope all are good and am glad this thing is moving along...
Bayern: Hope you feel better.
SK: IVC is intravenous vita c. You can look at angelmedcenter.com for this stuff in LA or ask them.
soclose. what i mean is collect all of it from all of us then send it all at one time to china then you only pay 15 on the whole thing.
Ava, Kathleen, Suntown, SoClose, Large Marge, Jackbig, Fat Harold, Positive energies - I hope I haven't forgotten anyone.
Just a thought -
How long before we know if Bayern is cured? His antibodies may not drop fast enough to give a negative result for a while. We should not go until we get a negative Igg test from Bayern. So, we can only make very tentative travel plans until then.
Bayern - Do you have any ideas on anticipated cure date etc? I remember someone posting about the level of antibodies rate of decrease a while ago. Maybe you can guide us better about this.
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True Cures aka TC takes on the World - Yet another post from TC using another fake handle.
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Fat: I'm on the second round now. But I won't be able to post any results for quite some time... I'm going to India on Dec. 2 and I won't be back for a couple of months.
Hey all : I want to make something clear. We are collecting money to send Bayern just to make his visit to the hospital possible. He is gonna ask as much as possible to make things clear. His first aim is to understand if this is a real cure or another scam. ( Which I do not believe ! ) Bayern is not gonna have the treatment with the money we send. If he learns that it is a real cure he may decide to stay and have the treatment. It is his call.
I've spoken to one of the doctors of the hospital on a messenger kind of thing. He said curing time, duration of the treatment completely depends on each patient condition. Treatment takes generally more than a week. But he didn't tell me what the longest time was. The cost of the treatment is 200 yuan ( approx 33 USD ) per day. This is all I know for know. If Bayern says that it is a real cure I'm planning to go. I don't have the patience to wait because we cannot know how long to wait...
Positive energies : In your post you say ''I remember someone posting about the level of antibodies rate of decrease a while ago'' . Is there a chance I can see that table or whatever it is ? What is it about ? Antibody drop rates by illnesses ? Thanks in advance.
With love...
SoClose - That info was deleted when Ashtree re-did the hub. Here is the little I know about antibodies. If you have an outbreak then your antibodies levels will be at the highest levels fighting off the virus. However, when you stop having outbreaks, your immune system still have the antibodies but the level decrease over a period of time. And that's is why a few people have been cured. They stopped having outbreaks or any signs or symptoms of the virus, therefore the immune systems stop making antibodies to kill the virus. The antibodies levels then drop and the person can test and when the IGG anitbodies is below 1. That means you are cured.
Think about antibodies levels like getting the flu. Your immune system goes into overdrive to produce antibodies and get rid of the flu virus. When the flu is gone, there is no more flu virus for the body to fight. So, those anti-bodies levels drop very low.
However, there is some formula to help us understand how e antibodies drop. I believe that post was from SolidSupport but she has not posted here in quite some time. I think she was a microbiologist - not sure. I have her e-mail address and will ask her again.
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Fat harold : The way you say is really logical. But we are past that point athe moment. We only need 20 USDs to go. So paying 15 USD expense for 20 USDs would be silly :) But if we do another thing like that in the future your way would be best to do.
Positive energies : Thanks a lot for your quick response :)
With love...
Yes TC you did forget someone. It's me. And if your going to be here stop putting fake handles on. Most of us can see through that sh!t. Also, if you have positive input without any one having to pay you then by all means stay and pass along REAL advice and input. But if not then get 2 shtepin.
Soclose: Thanks for the info you emailed me bro. I will be sending $50 USD tomorrow following my workout at the gym. I will send the code to you once I get home.
Fat: That is a good idea but too little too late. I'm sure we are going to be better coordinated next time...if there is a next time.
SoooooKonfused: I don't know where you can find treatment facilities where you are. I'm in the north east us. Go to google and put in a search for all of it. Also, try and search for that and hsv. That may help you our some. I don't have time now. Good luck.
$33 a day is great. We will all live like kings in China for a while.
Soclose-where are you at? I am in Houston.
I guess we could all meet in New York then go out from there.
I just need bayerns info to send him the money.
Superhopeful-will you not be able to check the hub from india?
What the ??? Positive Energies Hub on TC has been shut down by the "Hubmasters"??? For violation of the terms of use?? TC - You dirty rat.... I know your hands are NOT clean in this whole affair. You used to claim that any publicity was good publicity - until all of the people you treated turned on you because they were not cured.
Large Marge - If you are out there.... I will pay for TC's passage to China.... But only if it is 'One Way' !!!!!!!!!!
And it would be the best money I ever spent........
P.S - TC...................
Don't think you are going to get off so easy....
I have that ENTIRE Hub copied to my hard drive. From day one to today. ..........
So if this these Hubs won't allow the truth - Well then I will create my own website with your name front and center - So it comes up in a google search of True Cures at the 'top of the heap'. You may have won this battle TC - But you have not won the War. You have conned too many people for us to just let this lie.
P.P.S. - Quit slinkin' back on here under phony handles. It is pathetic. NO ONE posts links to you hubs or website BUT YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SoClose - Okay I sent Bayern the monies tonight.
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Tryin 2 b - : Thanks a lot buddy. I will be waiting or the code.
Positive energies : Thanks for your input as well.
Fat harold : I cannot put Bayerns personal info here. So please e mail me at
okansezgin1987 at gmail dot com
I'll e-mail you back what you need to send Bayern money. If you can send 20 we're done then ! Thanks.
I wish I was in the USA but I live in Turkey. We may meet in China or I may go earlier. I don't want to wait till one gets cured. If Bayern says that it is a cure or possibility is high to get cured it will be enough for me to go there soon.
With love...
They year was '78. I met this man coming out of a liqueur store and thought right then and there that I had found love!
Well it wouldnt be. Instead the nihgt of passion turned into a life of H!!
SInce then I have had no luck in finding a man.
I once had a chance at starting a relationship with the man who owns a gas station down the street from me as he had H too.
But then he ran off with some other girl.
Seems like now when I need love I just head over to the R&B club and wake up the next morning in the bed of a 6'7 black basketball player.
Hubbers - Apparently True Cures complained to the Hub Masters that my hub about him was attacking him on a basis, my hub has been temporarily disabled until I make modifications to the language. Here is the email I received.
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Dear Sir or Madam:
Your hub, True Cures - Con Man, Fraud & Scam Artist, has been temporarily unpublished due to a complaint from another user. While HubPages is not in a position to determine the accuracy of either his or your claims, personal attacks are against our terms of use. Please remove any attacks against the user as a person (unfavorable opinions or negative reviews of a product are fine) before resubmitting for publication.
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Thanks,
Team HubPages
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I responded that I was reviewing his services and I also told them I will absolutely compile by modifying the language.
And I will - RFLMAO!
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That little TC will stop at nothing to spreads his lies.
What about the lie you told me TC that once you cured me of H and Lou Gerichs disease that we would spend the rest of our lives on a white sandy beach.
That you needed 5K form me to put up a deposit on a beach home for us!!!???
All lies!!!!
Instead I found myself left alone in a $20 motel no tell in west alabama.
And the comment you made to my mom when she called you that you had to knaw you own arms off in the morning just added fuel to the fire.
I am not through with you TC and this will never be over until justice is served.
And it will be served soon enough!!!
Soclose and all: I sent the money to bayern a few hours ago. Soclose I'll email you the code.
I hope all is well with everyone. We need to remember that we are all in this war together. It's not just bayern's fight. I don't know the guy but I love him for trying. We are for each other and I thank everyone here for that. The spread of knowledge is the very thing that makes the world go round.
Bayern: I hope you feel better buddy. You will soon have enough money to take the trip. Just let us know what the plan is.
Thanks Suntown for answering my question, and directing me in the direction to find out more.
This question is for EVERYONE.....
Have any of you ever ever ever heard of anyone anywhere ever being cured of herpes for good?????? Ever
well familiy
i got bronchial pneumonia.. and i am taking injection at my own hospital
let me clear some things
i got some email from some body and also can see on the hub thiking negative about me
ok, well, let you think and guess whatever as you like
let me clear once more
i ever never forced and asked you money. i am not doing money collecting business...i told you all.. i will go to that hospital few weeks later when i have money.. but as you believe me, you are willing to share some.and i also share some ..
but i still can say you that if it is not cured that thing makes our friendship very far and we may not able to find another cured, its so dangerious, money is dangerious
i am kind, i am real, i am honest, i am poor. i am well educated..just believe me on this points..
i again promise you, who are trying to help me in my researching. i really do big big favour in life and hope this is cured.i will be together with you in china, very soon,then i will have god chance to help you
some old hubber read the hub and my words. but they dont like typing the words..and may be they are tired with many thing,, but its not the end..we have still no choise , so cant leave the hub.
ok friend i just got little good feelings so shared some words.the person who has my number, can call me any times
take care thats all
i love prepositions and definite articles!!!!!
Hi Guys,
I haven't been on the hub for a month or so, any new potential "Cures" or has anyone had and good news about being cured?? Please let me know??
I hope everyone is doing well!!!
Love Oz
Positive Energies, Tryin 2 b - , Fat Harold, Sun Town : You are the ones who have sent money to Bayern to go investigate the new cure. I've asked you to send only the code which was given from Western Union offices. I've just received an e-mail from Bayern telling me that he would need the sender's name, address, city and country along with the code. To make this thing fair enough I will share my personal info with all of you via mail. I'll be waiting for your emails.
Bayern :I hope you get well soon. But please make this trip the ''SOONEST'' possible. We did our best to collect the money you need in one week and we did it. Please please try to go there this week or the next week the latest. We don't need to tell you how much we want the real cure.
All : Our friend Bayern will go to investigate the cure. We all thank to him for his efforts for all of us. I'd like all of us to prepare questions we need him to ask there. I will write down two questions which is most wondered and my own questions now. Please each of you copy and paste my questions to your post, add your own question(s) then post it here. So we would collect all the questions in one post.
These are my questions :
How long does it take for a person to get cured from both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
How much does it cost to get completely cured ?
What is that you mean by ''cured''? Is it being outbreak free or a negative IgG test for both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
What is the percentage of the people getting cured ?
With love...
Hey all : I've spoken to Bayern and requested him to go to the hospital soon. He was convinced and told me that he'll go on next thursday ! So we have 3 days to prepare our questions and finish the e-mail traffic with the money senders.
As Tryin 2 b - says :
Let's reverse the H! :)
With love...
SoClose - I responded to Bayern's request for further info.
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Positive Energies : I did not get your e-mail with all the info we need.
The Amount
The Code
Name-Surname
Address
City
Country
I'd be glad if you could send it again.
Thanks.
With love...
Hey all : I'm on 2nd month of mms1 treatment and 1st month of mms2 treatment. Yesterday I had an extraordinary experience I'd like to share with you and ask your opinion. I was used to throw ups and increase in bowel movements with mms1&2 treatments. But yesterday I ran to the toilet with a feeling I would throw up. Well I did not. I just had a secretion of the stomach(liquid , like water) coming out from my mouth. That was all at first. But then I saw a little blood in the liquid. I checked all my teeth if it was because of one or more of them but I realized that the blood wasn't coming out of my teeth. It was coming out of my stomach. I didn't take the next doses. Today I had the first dose and the next. I'm ok for know. What do you think I shoud do ? Have any of you experienced the same or a similar experience with mms1&2 or only mms1 ? I don't want to stop the treatment but I don't want to give harm to my body as well. Any opinion would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
With love...
Bayern- if you received an email that was mean to you it was from this hubber who used to post under the name scambusta.
He also used many handles making fun of TC and other hubbers.
Although he was correct in calling resolve a scam and TC a sham he still drove a lot of people crazy.
He is a rabble rouser- not a man of peace like myself.
Hope all are feeling well.
Bayern: For my part I am truly grateful you are there and able to investigate this for all of us. There is always negativity somewhere, do not let it get to you. I hope you get better soon.
Bayern, I wish you a quick recovery! I just want to say thank you for volunteering your time, energy, and money in doing this not only for yourself, but for all of us. God in His infinite mercy will bless you and hopefuly this will be it. Pls don't mind anyone who would say negative things to you bc most of us appreciate you and your contribution to the hub. We all appreciate each other so just shake it off. I can't wait to hear your evaluation of their cure--pls keep us informed.
Soclose my dear, I will be careful if I were you. Here are a few questions to answer--has this happened to you before, how much blood did you see? was it bright red or dark red? do you have a history of ulcer? does your stool contain blood that you can see? Definitely watch yourself to see if it happens again. it could be mechanical irritation from throwing up alot, do u retch? or most prolly irritation of the lining of the esophagus or stomach by the mms. Just be careful mate.
Hope everyone is in good spirit. Have a wonderful week y'all.
Soclose: I stopped just shy of 3 week mark of mms 1 and 2. My stomach couldn't handle it. I never saw blood though. Also, I have phlegm almost constantly in my throat now. I'm going to see my dr about that. What you NEED to do is stop for 1 month and restart again. Your body needs rest. The protocol I saw was for 3 weeks not 6. Buddy I know you want to get rid of h but you can't rid yourself of yourself. We all need you in this world. I may start another time. You may be doing too much. UVBI, MMS1 and 2, vit c inj's. Our bodies can only take but so much. We are fragile beings bro.
Bayern: To hell with what people are saying. You do you.
Let's reverse the H!
Soclose: My advice and opinion? Please stop MMS immediately! This sounds very bad. IMHO, I think you should not do it anymore. I am really worried about you, my friend. Please keep us posted on how you are doing.
If you insist on continuing no matter what, try what Tryin 2 b says and stop for a month. You might want to contact Jim Hubble or whatever his name is, who sells it and who makes it and ask him for advice on what to do. You can perhaps Google his info.
Tryin 2 b: Soclose has not actually done any Vitamin C IV's, BTW. Just the UVBI's. He won't do Vit C IV's right now b/c C interferes with MMS.
Hey, Soclose, maybe you can quit MMS and get some Vit C IV's? That can't hurt, my friend.
SoooKonfused: UVBI stands for Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation. Google it and you'll get all the info you need. It supposed to help cure H.
Bayern: I believe in you. Just ignore the person who sent you the negative email. I want to help you and I care about you and I appreciate your help and research. As soon as I get my unemployment on Tuesday I'll send some money to help you. I got the wire info from Jackbig in a private email. Be well my friend and get well soon.
DDD- hows it going with the lecithin?
Positiveenergies, I agree that we should all help out and contribute to Bayern's trip there.
But I also agree with Fat-Harold that I don't think I want to wait to see his results say after 3 months or 6 months.
I think there's a few of us that is willing to go earlier, so maybe we can arrange a trip to go perhaps even with Bayern? We could meet up in China and figure out what's the truth in the treatment. Bayern and myself can probably do most of the talking in Mandarin.
What do you think Fat-harold?
email me at jackbig01 at gmail dot com
Take care all!! Hopefully by this time next year we would all be free of this menace!!!
Hey, everybody,
Have been away from the hub for quite some time as was crazy busy with work and also training hard. The couple rounds of Resolve I did ultimately did nothing for me....then tried a mineral / homeopathic protocol (same one Kim and Fat Harold did before) and that also didn't work...although it did suppress things for a while.
Wanted to let you guys know that I am now trying Dr. Sebi's program....albeit very skeptically. The staff at his office demonstrated zero knowledge of HSV, or anything about what effects or might kill the virus. The lady there just kept parroting their mantra of "our program cures anything" I paid for one month of their program, she gave me a whole pile of different bottles of herb tablets, and from looking at dosages it was clear that a number of these would not last one month....and she had some vague excuse for that as well. Have been taking the program for about one week now...and basically it seems to act as a pretty extreme herbal flush; find myself in the bathroom 6 - 8 times per day. Also causes a fair amount of gastric discomfort. Anyway, will stick with it 'til the end and see what happens. From their original claims of a cure in one month, Dr. Sebi's staff now tell you "one month to one year" as the required time. As you have to stick to strict vegetarian diet, I imagine one year of eating like that your body would be so alkaline no virus would survive anyway....even without their herbs.
Whole thing might be expensive scam, but will keep you updated. Have started taking lauricidin as well.
see ya,
t boxer
i could go to china sometime after the first of the year.
Hope everyone is good.
Bayern: Hope you are feeling better.
Kathleen: Did you receive my email a couple days ago with the info? I'm excited about it.
SoClose: I hope you are feeling better as well. It is probably good advise to slow it down a little. If China is coming up soon you want to be strong..
Hey all : I'm ok thanks for all your concern and responses. It was not a big thing it was just a few drops of blood which was bright red not dark. I stopped mms1&2 that day and the next day I started again. I'm ok with the treatment now and no more vomitting or blood. I want to do mms1 up to 3 month just like ''R'' did so I won't give up. If it happens again I ll go see a doc. I've written to Jim Humble's guys but got no answer :) We only have each other believe me.
With love.
SoClose - Are you aware that MMS have caused some severe throat, stomach health issues and some cases prolong problems? Search the net - you will see.
positive energies
Hey everyone
I am doing Keeper of the Faith's protocol. No new obs and I have not given up triggers.
Lies run sprints but the truth runs marathons...was it Micheal Jackson that said that??
I am all packed and ready for China.
And Fat Harold you said we should go in a group which would be safer.
No one will mess with you with around!!
Kathleen: Thanks for the info. I did forget he hasn't tried it due to the mms protocol.
t boxer: Welcome back I haven't read anything from you in a long time. How much is Dr Sebi's remedies costing you?
Denni: I think your right: MJ.
Soclose: You read all the concern right. Take heed. Listen to your body bro.
Lets reverse the H!
I have been doing garlic 5000mg and silver solution which is not a colloidal silver but some newer type. So far no OB's and I am due one about this time.
Denni- why have you been away so long?
Fat - glad you are doing well.
FAT: Do you know what it is like to have to work for money??lol..
I have an exciting career and men at me all the time..I am living my life like it is golden..for now...lol..Something will happen..and I will be sad again for a few days..maybe less.. then I will get up, dust myself off and keep it moving..but for now, IM GOOD..
I rarely miss reading the hub..I just don't post as much..especially due to the fact my obs are less..even with triggers..But anyway..Good luck to you all..
Lecithin Update - I switched to the lecithin granules, since I did some more research and more articles discussed the granules than the pills. I started the graules about 1.5 weeks ago and got an outbreak recently. It was smaller than anything that I have gotten before, and it went away in 3 days. So hopefully, it is working. Normally, they will last for 7 - 10 days. I will continue this for 5 more weeks and will see how things work.
Bayern - Also found this article.
http://alternativehealing.org/herpes_simplex_II_Ch
Can you figure this out?
Thanks,
DDD
t boxer - Dr.Sebi's protocol can cure but it also costs an arm and a leg. The hardest thing is sticking to the diet. The most important part is removing toxins. Keep up with the diet. Everyone's system is different and Sebi cannot tell exactly when anyone will be cured - and that's the big ambiguity about holistic treatments. It depends on your body.
Is anyone else flying out of NY to China to see Bayern's doctor?
JackBig and SoClose - Which airport is nearest the hospital?
positive energies
hi family.. i am packing my bag. and i cant wait ....but truth is i am going on Thursday...but i am so nervous myself cause this is my great hope and if comes just like a scam. i will not have any idea how to deal with you all.. but but as i did research, they are real and very close to me just about 200 KM
here is so cold...and i already got terrible cold still taking higher antibiotic, feeling so weak...
dont worry every one,,,i do update real things what i will get..
too much thanks who are helping my trip sending money as you can, i can appreciate it very much, so happy and promise you i will also do for you..if it comes cured or if i get cured....any way...i am kind and i have kind soul as you have...take care....all
Ava are you coming to china with us?
The airport nearest the hopsital is Quingdao, China (TAO).
positive energies
Tryin 2 b - : Don't worry about me buddy :) I am listening to my body well and will not let anything hurt it. I just cut mms1&2 that day and I've started again the next day. I'm ok now and no feeling of throwing up or anything. I also got in contact with a guy from Jim Humble's team. He told me that 6 drops hourly was a very large dose but I could go on if I felt ok. He advices to keep the dose at 4 drops hourly. I think I will go on 6 drops till december 12th which will be 3rd month of mms1 treatment. Then I think I will stop them both.
positive energies :Thanks for the warning. I checked everything about it before I've ordered it. I even read a post of a man telling her wife has died after 18 drops if I don't remember wrong. I know now that I should watch the dose. If it happens again I'll drop down to 4 drops which is advised dose by Jim Humble's team. During day time I can miss some doses that's why I don't want to decrease the doses. ''R'' did 15 drops x 3 times a day, my dose makes 48 drops total if I don't miss any. I want to finish this trouble soon so I'll stick to 6 drops as long as my body has no problem with that.
I don't know which is the closest airport to the hospital but when I check flights from Turkey there is direct flight to Jinan which is the city where the hospital is located. I think you can find direct flights from the USA to Jinan.
Bayern : Hey. 180 USDs is confirmed to be sent to your name. 20 USDs is promised by Jackbig to be sent in 2 days. You can get 180 USDs today or 200 on Thursday.
I have questions. If you could ask all these questions and write down the answers to pass me later on I'd be really grateful.
These are my questions :
How long does it take for a person to get cured from both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
How much does it cost to get completely cured ?
What is that you mean by ''completely cured''? Is it being outbreak free or a negative IgG test for both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
What is the percentage of the people getting cured ? Does the percentage differentiate regarding how long has the patient been infected ?
Do the patients have to stay at the hospital during the treatment ?
Does this treatment need a specific diet ?
Does it involve ozone treatment ?
Does it involve Traditional Chinese Medicine ?
Will we be treated with Chinese herbs ?
These are all for now. I'd like all the hubbers to add new questions or improve mine.
Thanks in advance.
With love...
Fat - I am not going to China until there is a proven cure. Only then will I try to find the money to go. But, I think it is definitely too premature to make that sort of commitment. I will be eagerly waiting for Bayern's results. I also have some other commitments I need to work around. So, I will keep watching.
yeah i want to see how it goes too.
The stuff I am on seems to be working but I have said that before.
All: I think it is a good idea to ask questions we want answers to. Soclose does have a point although he as asked the basis of what we all want to know. These are his questions and I'll add mine to it as well:
How long does it take for a person to get cured from both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
How much does it cost to get completely cured ?
What is that you mean by ''completely cured''? Is it being outbreak free or a negative IgG test for both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
What is the percentage of the people getting cured ? Does the percentage differentiate regarding how long has the patient been infected ?
Do the patients have to stay at the hospital during the treatment ?
Does this treatment need a specific diet ?
Does it involve ozone treatment ?
Does it involve Traditional Chinese Medicine ?
Will we be treated with Chinese herbs ?
IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL BE CURED?
IS THERE A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE?
DO WE HAVE TO STOP TAKING OUR SUPPLEMENTS? IF SO FOR HOW LONG PRIOR TO BEGINNING TREATMENTS?
IS IT BETTER TO COME WHEN AN OB IS PRESENT?
DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A FOLLOW-UP TRIP BACK TO CHINA FOLLOWING TREATMENTS? IF SO HOW MANY?
HOW MANY PATIENTS CAN COME AT A TIME?
ARE THERE ANY SIDE EFFECTS OF THESE TREATMENTS? IF SO WHAT ARE THEY AND HAS ANYONE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED OR EVEN DIED?
There may be more questions but I don't want to be greedy!
Soclose: I have to worry about you...not just you but all of us here. We have to learn from one another what works and what doesn't. Have you researched what positiveenergies posted about as far as throat issues? Like I've said before...we need all of us to help each other. We may hold the cure.
Bayern: Good luck buddy! I hope you feel better and come back with such good news that we'll all cry in happiness. Our journey awaits and starts with you. I'm happy to have invested in all of us here. I'm not rich but I feel its worth it.
Lets reverse the H!
Hi Bayern, Okan, I've already transferred USD20 via Western Union. Hope this helps although it isn't much!
Trying 2 b, I agree with your questions as those are probably the key questions we would want to have more clarity on.
Okay all, take care and Bayern....GOOD LUCK!!! Bring us back some good news!!
Regards.
Hey all : We are done with money collecting thing. Thaks a lot for your input and trust. I'm sure Bayern will do his best to make the highest use of this trip. People who made this trip possible are :
Bayern, Positive Energies, Trying 2 b - , Suntown, Jackbig, Kathleen, Ashtree and me.
We all stand for eachother. So I want to thank to all of you. Keep praying so that Bayern will come back with good news. I am very hopeful. Thanks again...
Tryin 2 b - : Don't worry about me buddy. I'm taking good care of myself. I've learned to manage the throw ups. Sometimes I had to take the doses just a little before or after the food. Because I was at work and doing strange things with drops :) So I was just waiting for the right time( silence, nobody around) to prepare the thing and drink. Now I will wait at least half an hour before I take my dose. If the blood thing happens again I'm sure I will drop to 4 drops which is said to be the max dose by Jim Humble.
Jackbig : You haven't sent me your address , city and country. This way Bayern won't be able to get the money. I'll be waiting for that.
These are the questions Bayern will ask there for all of us :
How long does it take for a person to get cured from both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
How much does it cost to get completely cured ?
What is that you mean by ''completely cured''? Is it being outbreak free or a negative IgG test for both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
What is the percentage of the people getting cured ? Does the percentage differentiate regarding how long has the patient been infected ?
Do the patients have to stay at the hospital during the treatment ?
Does this treatment need a specific diet ?
Does it involve ozone treatment ?
Does it involve Traditional Chinese Medicine ?
Will we be treated with Chinese herbs ?
IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL BE CURED?
IS THERE A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE?
DO WE HAVE TO STOP TAKING OUR SUPPLEMENTS? IF SO FOR HOW LONG PRIOR TO BEGINNING TREATMENTS?
IS IT BETTER TO COME WHEN AN OB IS PRESENT?
DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A FOLLOW-UP TRIP BACK TO CHINA FOLLOWING TREATMENTS? IF SO HOW MANY?
HOW MANY PATIENTS CAN COME AT A TIME?
ARE THERE ANY SIDE EFFECTS OF THESE TREATMENTS? IF SO WHAT ARE THEY AND HAS ANYONE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED OR EVEN DIED?
If any of you want to ask somethng else please do not hesitate to add.
With love to all...
Hi, everybody,
Positive Energies, thanks for feedback about Dr Sebi's program. As you say, it costs an arm and a leg....and they can't offer any case studies / testimonials of people who have been cured. The first time I contacted them they told me the program would cure in one month....this time they said "one month to one year"...and the staff there seemed to have no understanding of any of the diseases they are claiming to cure. SO, am quite skeptical but was feeling a bit desperate as the DMSO protocol, then phototherapy, then Resolve, then homeopathic have all struck out. Sticking to the diet is no fun, and the herbs put your stomach / intestines into all kinds of distress....but am hoping that will lessen as the program goes on. I did a seven day fast and cleanse earlier this year (including two colonics a day) so as far as removing toxins, don't believe I am very toxic given my usual diet is quite healthy.
Will keep you guys posted. Am also very interested in the China news. I live in Asia so can fly there pretty easily....used to live in Beijing and in Shanghai, so language not a problem.....so happy to join if the group needs one more tour guide.
T boxer
look into silver solution. i am taking that and a really good garlic 5000mg and so far nothing.
I should have something any day now so we will have to wait and see.
But this stuff called silver sol. is not normal silver it is a new product which they claim magnetically gets to the virus so it cant hide.
fat harold : hi . Is that ionic silver you use? Or is it colloidal silver? How do you take it ? Do you ingest ? Can you give a link about it ?
Thanks...
good news...just checking in..taking biogetica now for 5 weeks last OB was 3 weeks ago and only one OB since i started the product...i think this is a keeper!! yahoo!
i re read my post sounds confusing..OK started taking biogetica 5 weeks ago...had ONE OB in the last 5 weeks since i started taking biogetica and that OB was 3 weeks ago. for those who know me this is wonderful just owonderful..i usually get OB 5-12 a month and to have only one in 5 weeks is amazing i will continue to take biogetica and meditate meditate meditate!!
Wow! Kim, that's fantastic! I was just thinking about you today - no kidding! I was wondering how you're doing and was thinking of getting in touch... and there you are with great news! So which biogetica protocol are you taking???
super
Kim: I'm glad for you. You found something that works for you.
Soclose: Cool man. I hear you bro. I know you'll be alright buddy. Just keep us posted.
t boxer: How much is dr sebi's protocol costing you? He was on the radio with a radio host Mrs Jones show last year and had some people with him. There were callers on the phone calling into the radio station telling that he cured them. I just don't know what to believe. I do know that he did have 100 people with him stating he cured them of ailments when he went to court following his arrest.
Bayern can we get an update?
I just got back from this wild party at this beach house myself.
It was far out man.
Bayern, Soclose and all: I do have another question to ask. It is at the bottom of the list:
How long does it take for a person to get cured from both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
How much does it cost to get completely cured ?
What is that you mean by ''completely cured''? Is it being outbreak free or a negative IgG test for both HSV1 and HSV2 ?
What is the percentage of the people getting cured ? Does the percentage differentiate regarding how long has the patient been infected ?
Do the patients have to stay at the hospital during the treatment ?
Does this treatment need a specific diet ?
Does it involve ozone treatment ?
Does it involve Traditional Chinese Medicine ?
Will we be treated with Chinese herbs ?
IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL BE CURED?
IS THERE A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE?
DO WE HAVE TO STOP TAKING OUR SUPPLEMENTS? IF SO FOR HOW LONG PRIOR TO BEGINNING TREATMENTS?
IS IT BETTER TO COME WHEN AN OB IS PRESENT?
DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A FOLLOW-UP TRIP BACK TO CHINA FOLLOWING TREATMENTS? IF SO HOW MANY?
HOW MANY PATIENTS CAN COME AT A TIME?
ARE THERE ANY SIDE EFFECTS OF THESE TREATMENTS? IF SO WHAT ARE THEY AND HAS ANYONE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED OR EVEN DIED?
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THE NERVE DAMAGE THAT WAS CAUSED BY H. IF SO HOW DO YOU TREAT IT OR WILL IT HEAL ON ITS OWN?
I thought that question needed to be asked.
Lets reverse the H!
Bayern: Good luck buddy. You've got the helm on this one.
all my friends....i am moving to jinan hospital few hours later...yes of course i do ask these all questions and will update you..
remember one thing, i am going to visit that hospital not to start my treatment right this time..i will be back after visiting them. then i will go again if i find that is cured..
any way, i am leaving to jinan very soon.
kim......yes i have told you many times,homeopathy is the magic and it can take long time.wish you that works for you and, take care
Congrats KIM
Tryin 2 b - : Bayern has got your question man. I'm sure he will ask all of them.
Kim : I'm glad something is working for you. I knew it would sometime. I'm sure meditation is a big helper. I saw my lowest numbers when I was meditating daily and having ozone treatments. I advise everybody to meditate. I gives our body the silence and the time to take care of itself ! I'm very happy to hear good news from you. Now it's Bayern's turn. If he comes back with good news we will all win ! I'm very excited :)
With love to everybody...
Kim - I hope you are seeing a corelation between Resolve and your numerous outbreaks. Because Resolve breaks down the body immune system to cure it - you experience more outbreaks. However, now you are building up your immune system and your outbreaks will take longer and longer and H will eventually become dormant - then after a while you can be cured.
Hang in there!
posenergies
superhopeful, rightnow i am taking both of the biogetica products the 125.00 one and the 200.00 one..i was taking the 100.00 one and got an OB 3 weeks ago and starte4d the more expensive one with the sprays and so far so good...
denni, thanks
bayren,,thank you...
positiveenergies, I am just greatful that my OB have slowed down and now just the one OB in 5 weeks!!! I am so excited and pleased...this meditation is a miracle worker i tell you..check out the guided meditation on the4 biogetica website..not the script the actual talking one it is awsome.......!!
POS you just said that resolve breaks down the immune to cure it...but they never cured anyone.....and neither did you TC!!!!!
neither did you!!!!!
dont ask for whom the bells tolls TC...it tolls for you!!!!!!
bayern can we get an update?
DDD how are things now?
superhopeful-how did the ribivirin go?
Denni- hows life in general my old friend?
hi! this is anne from US. Just want to know what are the Herpes Treatment... I am experiencing a herpes like symptoms like sore and painless warts in my private areas.
Fat - I am good.
T Boxer - I tried messaging you. Can you email me? I also love in Asia.
strongfight75@gmail.com
Thanks,
DDD
Sorry - I also live in Asia.
Hope all are well.
Bayern: Good luck and God bless you for your efforts.
Hi I need ADVICE ASAP!! .... after my cleanse I will do the dmso and stabilized liquid oxygen...has anyone tried this? If so please share your thoughts or results....
I am aware dmso has some dangers but I still want to try it........the reason why is because another person wrote about how they did slo and dmso for 3 months and got a .92 test result for herpes....now he not cured but its damn close and I want to see if I can replicate that
So anyone do the dmso and any brand of stabilized liquid oxygen for at least 2 months and please share your experienes or thoughts I will start this within a week or so
Thanks
whats going on, i cant post on the hub??
Soclose: I too am hopeful about this trip Bayern is on. I really hope it's going to be a positive experience. I also hope those questions were enough. Hope we didn't leave anything out.
Fat: Where are you?...Bayern is already gone. Nothing to update.
hi family.. i just wanna let you know that i am still at the hospital and waiting for a doctor who has been to beijing..he will be back on monday . i talked to other doctor and all are saying good things and its cured but also have some failure rates..so they all adviced me to wait for the professor. so.i am still here and just got a pc t0 update,
please every body i will update every thing in detail on monday night of asia time zone.its very interested things i am getting over here and this hospital is very very big..thats all
wait for my next update what will be in all detail including all answers to the questions..
Thanks Bayern.
I like that they admit some failure rate rather than promise a cure.
FAT: Life in general..ughh, ok..lol..what does that mean..I am not seeing anybody seriously, if your still interested..lol..smile.
ASHTREE: SINCE FAT HAROLD USES SOOOoOoo many alias, please allow me one..
HAS ANYONE NOTICED: How close SOCLOSE and BAYERN ARE?
HAS ANYONE NOTICED: The almost peerfect English and spelling lately??
HAS ANYONE NOTICED?? Giving your hard earned money to a perfect stranger over the internet.How many other people have or will fall for this scam artist.
Scanbusta : We are in Bora Bora with Bayern having the most fun with 150 USD we have stolen from sick people if this would make you happy !If you have the least conscience of all human beings you wouldn't do that accusation.
I know Bayern from this hub. He lives in China I live in Turkey. I trust him and I also sent him money to make this thing possible. If anybody who has helped Bayern to make trip has any suspects about me or him please tell it right now and I'll send back the money you've sent. Please !
I cannot take this slander to myself or Bayern !
Take what Bayern and Soclose say with a HUGE grain of salt. EVERYTIME a scam is exposed on this hub for what it is, there is always another in the wings just waiting patiently to come in and take advantage of the vulnerable. I'm not calling them a scam just yet but just a little bit of evidence would be nice before everybody jumps on the bandwagon. It would also be nice if Bayern would decide if he is going to be the illiterate 3rd grade foreigner or the more recent person who apparently got hooked on Phonics during this recent excursion. Read between the lines people. Personally, I don't buy it.
Bayern and Soclose,
For some strange reason, perhaps just deja vu, but I have this feeling that there are going to be long delays for questions to be answered. I also get the feeling that the curing process will be long and at some point in time more monies will be requested. Maybe I'm wrong but just a gut feeling based on past experience here. Here are a few EASY questions for you.
-what is the name of the "hospital"?
-what is the address and location of the "hospital"?
-China has come a long way so I'm sure the "hospital" has a telephone number. Can you please provide for us the number?
-In fact we now live in the 21st century so I'm absolutely certain that this "big hospital" must certainly have a web site. Can you please provide us with the website address?
Thank you for your cooperation by providing us with these very modest requests!
Skeptic: Read the previous posts. I gave those information to lots of people contacting with me via mail. I don't want the hospital be shut down because of the ''Bad Guy'. Write to me okansezgin1987 at gmail dot com. I ll write you back all the info you need.
I believe Bayern will turn back to us with answers cause I trust him. He is not selfish like some other people here. He wants the cure for all of us. I want you to know that there were 2 other guys willing to send him money after we collected 200 USDs and we rejected that. If we were willing to just take money from people and disappear we would have collected at least 50 USDs more believe me. Instead of making the water muddy we should all pray,do something good for all of us or keep in silence and do nothing! This way will be the way out of this trouble. Being rude, throwing slanders over people which you don't even know personally will not cure us or do anything good. I want all of us to be cured, even the ones not on the hubs. Everybody should work for the same goal.
Wait and see. If Bayern doesn't show up again ( which I don't think will happen) it means I did wrong to cause people send him money. IF this happens I will send back everybody the amount they have sent to Bayern. I think this would be fair enough ! ! !
By the way your requests are not modest. I'd like to share that info with only the ones I knew they were real !I will write back to you just to give a relief to you and others thinking like you ! ! !
With love...
Ashtree says:
4 months ago
This is Ashtree and I own this hub.I have deleted all previous posts so we can have a fresh start hopefully talking about what this hub is all about.
I really do not want any more talk about resolve.Lets finish with that subject and make this hub as it used to be. Those of you that have been here some time know what I mean.I am sorry I have had to do this but I thought it was necessary.
It will be better if we are posting positive discussions on a Herpes Cure and learning from each others experiences.
Please do not use this fresh start to post anything about resolve.
Thank You
Ashtree