Herpes Cure
70Herpes Cure
Nowadays, with the help of modern science, there is always hope that the progress towards a herpes cure is not far away. A cure for herpes would transform the lives of millions of sufferers and is long overdue.
There are medications your doctor can prescribe to help the symptoms of herpes. Natural treatments can help those who suffer by controlling symptoms until a cure for herpes is found. Adequate hydration is probably the most natural herpes cure.
Click any link in this article for an answer to herpes symptoms.
If infected with the herpes virus, there are many treatment options available. Researchers continue to investigate the virus to help develop better treatments, a vaccine, and a herpes cure. Certainly there are now several treatments available to control herpes outbreaks. Remember to drink plenty as this may help if you are having difficulty passing urine due to pain. Ice wrapped in a towel and placed on the sores can be soothing.
When I was searching the net for a herpes cure I found plenty of help and information available that would enable sufferers to enjoy life and loving relationships. You know what it's like to suffer an outbreak.
Beside the mental stress and anxiety,there's the physical symptoms of the pain of passing urine ( like razorblades ) and the infernal itching and sores.
During my search I came across many websites offering different treatments for the symptoms of herpes and one in particular caught my attention. They promise a very effective aid for herpes ( click blue link ).
No there is no herpes cure but if you really want to see what can be done then just click any link in the article.
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One more question! How much does the phototherapy cost?
Here is info on Oil of Oregano
AntiviralColds, flu, shingles and herpes: Use daily to maintain a strong immune system and to weaken the virus. At the first sign of a viral infection such as colds, flu, herpes, shingles etc., take 3-6 drops immediately and continue at a maximum of 3 drops per hour for a maximum of 10 hours. In the case of herpes or shingles, in addition, it is best to apply the oil directly to the spot where tingling may be felt before an outbreak. This will often prevent the outbreak. Due to the heat sensation, oil of oregano should not be used on sensitive skin areas or mucous membranes. Do not use in vagina or anus unless it is very well diluted by adding a drop or two of wild Oil of Oregano to a tablespoon of olive oil. Then test with a small amount first. When treated at the first sign of symptoms, most viral conditions will be rendered harmless.
JB: Thanks for the info! Man you guys all come with various knowledge on this illness and its a lot to digest at times. I am so greatly to be a part of this community/family. I know they say when your having an outbreak you should keep the area dry which is hard to do when your applying different solvents to the area. While I don't know what's best I do know that Zovirax is useless. Aloe vera works pretty good and quickly dries into the skin which doesn't add to the moisture. The DMSO cream is also WONDERFUL! Kim or Cali will be able to tell you exactly the cost of phototherapy but I THINK its about $700.
I just took my second dose of MMS! No adverse side affects........as of yet. I accidentally took three drops instead of two. Lord I pray this works!!
Well, I had my first phototherapy treatment today. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I can't remember who asked, but at the clinic here in Arkansas it's $600, but if you ever have another outbreak you can go back without paying again. It's a series of 3 treatments, and supposedlly most people never need more. Here's hoping!
I've been drinking my 'vinegar cocktail' every morning and it's not so bad- I mix it with apple juice and a little honey, that seems to help a lot. I hope it's ok to do it like that. '
JB- I'm also a big fan of GSE- it's the absolute best thing for a sinus infection, and it just recently occurred to me that it might be used against this virus too, so thanks for the info!
If anybody needs the phone number for the clinic in AR let me know, I have the info. I go back for my second treatment Wednesday.
anonymous, thank you for the links on VIT C, very interesting.....I'm an older woman too,,, well in to my 40's...lol please post your email and I will email you and give you my phone number ...I will be more then happy to talk to you. I have had herpes over 23 years and have never told a partner so I cannot give you advise on when it is best or how to tell someone. But I think I would see him first..... I am NOT a good example of how someone should be with herpes. I keep it a secret, all these years and I am too ashamed to tell anyone I have it. I have never passed it on (thank goodness) but have never told anyone either. I know it is the right thing to do, but I just can't...Oh I have heard of lamb skin condoms, do they still make them?? although they do not protect against AIDS or Hepatitis....you may be able to use them.
cali, thank you again for your kind words..as usual : 0 )
jb, i have never tried homeopathy or Hypnotheraphy treatment. I've tried many many things but not that or valtrex or any other RX for this....
Tara, yes almonds and cashews (acutally all nuts) are high in arginine so are most all proteins....which is a herpes tirgger however I only eat a few. I try to eat just the almonds because they are protein and alkaline. because I do not like soy, I need some protein, as I only eat fresh fruit and veggies, and been doing so since last October...I do eat some almonds and raw cashews. not cups or anythign like that. just a few about 6-9 not a lot. and not every day. I was eating only fresh fruit and veggies for months with continued outbreaks even without eating the nuts..but my energy level was so low and I was so tired...I had to add some type of protein and I do not care for soy. I tried a few protein drinks and am using more of those now instead of almonds...I have a boiled egg once and a great while but it is acidic..when I eat almonds I always beef up my alkaline water intake.....I need to get a blender like you have to make my own juices....I will put that on my list this weekend! we can juice together and share receipies lol....
secondoutbreak, I should already be green!..but you know something...I no longer crave sugar or sweets,,,,I really love the salads I make and now will start the juicer thing soon too. It is recommended when raising your PH but after hearing TARA report, I will be buying a juicer this weekend...I can hardly wait...If this doesn't cure herpes we'll be the healthiest people with herpes out there...lol. thank you for keeping us posted on the MMS...I may want to give it a try...if somethig bad happens...but no wait...think positive.....sorry about that I lost myself there for a minute.....my last outbreak was over 2 weeks ago actually 17 days ago...yahoo!
jb, grapefruit seed extract..OK I'm going to the store!!!! thank YOU! Oil of oregano,,very interesting...I have purchased sesame oil which is recommended wit th MMS regime, I put it in my mouth 3 times a day 1 TBLS and swich it around for 15 minutes then spit it out. It is suposed to extract impuraties from all parts of your body. hey it couldnt hurt...I've been doing it for 2 days now.
phototherapy costs $700 in Florida,,,but is good for a whole year just like in Arkansas.. if you ever have an outbreak again, which most dont...just go back, no cost! I agree with secondoutbreak DMSO is a wonderful product. It kept meoutbreak free for 2 months, of course I had to use it every day...but it worked for a little while...
1mistake2many, I'm glad you wnet to phototherapy. You are on your way to being cured. Of course they are not legally able to say "cure" but I believe it is a cure...please keep us posted..Can you post the phone number to arkansas..I only had Dr. Martins number and understand he is no longer with them. The number in Florida is 1-479-461-2024 that is Dr. Stoneburners direct number in Florida,,,I don't know which one is closer to you JB, ..both offices are wonderful and they perform the same procedure...
As far as telling dating partners...I told my ex-husband when we first started dating and he was really great about it! When I got divorced last year I was soooo freaked out about dating again because I didn't want to have the conversation. The first man I dated thanked me for being so honest and he was willing to take the chance. We dated for a few months but it ended up not working out. Npw I'm seeing someone new and he also was very accepting. So the good news is I'm 3 for 3. There are good people out there that will think you're worth the risk!!! Just be careful how you proach the subject. If you act all nervous and scared then they will think it's a huge deal and you will scare them away for sure. I stressed that a huge % of the population has it and most don't even know it. At least with me we know it up front and we can be careful.
BTW, I've had genital herpes for 9 years. I also get cold sores on my neck which are constant! And I just got my first oral cold sore this week. So for those of you who only have it in once place, count yourself lucky (well, sort of!)
As far as the phototheraphy, how does the $700 office treatment differ from the home kit you buy? Is it just as effective? I saw it online and I think it was much less, like maybe $299.
I hope everyone is doing well...I was away for the weekend and I feel like I missed so much on here and have alot of catching up to do. I also messed up my diet and drank alcohol this weekend :( I tried but I have been so used to having a couple drinks when I go out I gave in... it also hard b/c my friends don't know why I'm trying not to drink and I still can't bring myself to tell anyone. Anyway I want to do whatever I can in the shortest amount of time to get my pH up and test negative.
I give soo much credit to everyone for their attempts to get rid of this virus b/c it takes alot of strength that I just don't have all the time.
Thanks to everyone for the weatlth of info which I want to catch up now but I should get some rest.
Best wishes to everyone!
JB- i just read your last post and if you don't mind me asking how and when in the relationship did you did you tell your partners b/c thats part of the reason I want to test negative so bad b/c I met a great guy but don't think I can tell him yet atleast. I'm also scared of him telling someone else because I'm still in school and would not want anyone else to find out.
Kim: How does the sesame oil taste? Where did you get it from?
1Mistake2Many: Please keep us posted on your treatment. How do you feel after your first round of treatment? Oh and I think honey is "bad" for us. Now I've read so many things about this virus and could not begin to tell you where I saw that but I'm pretty sure honey is one of our "bad" foods. If I find where I read it I will let you know.
Still can't get my urine ph above a 6.75...AGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! I think I'm going to begin drinking a teaspoon of vinegar with some water at night.
Msanonymous, your welcome anytime. I would also like to thank you for the link on Vit C. It was very interesting information.
Kim, it's so great to hear your progress. Wow, did you say 17 days, that's amazing.
Well I'm just counting down to October when I go for my phototherapy treatment in October. Hope everyone had a great weekend. Take care
Hi Secondoutbreak,
I see that you taking the MMS now which is part of the 3 day cure right?? If so does that mean you will only take it for 3 days?? Im just trying to see if anyone has started this yet and if there doing it for only 3 days??
Thanks again!!!
I have posted here several times. Again I do not want to get anybody's spirits down but I'm not convinced that any of these methods actually eliminate OBs. I do believe the phototherapy works for healing the OBs at a faster rate. Just reviewing the different remedies online, ALL the advertisements appear TO ME to be rather hokie. Does ANYBODY on this site make the claim that they haven't had recurrent OBs after any treatment? I'm glad Kim is getting less OBs and I'll take her word for it. That Is better than nothing but I see ALOT of people getting their hopes up that a cure is iminent and I've yet to be convinced. The testimonials I read at the Phototherapy site were VERY vague. I want to have a cure as much as anybody on the site or at the very least a treatment that elinates the OBs but I won't believe it until it actually happens to me. I'm open minded but I'm also somebody that prefers to hear and read the truth rather than false promises.
Hi Secondoutbreak,
I noticed you are taking the MMS now, this is part of the 3 day cure right?? If so will you only be taking the MMS for the 3 days?? Im just trying to find out if anyone has started and completed this treatment yet as i have just ordered it.
It seems from all the posts lately everyone is trying to raise there PH level to kill the virus, i really hope this 3 day cure can work as i just want to get rid of this virus asap!! I have obviously been doing the phototherapy treatment but still unsure how good it really is as i still get one coldsore every month :-(
Its great everyone is posting such great information and i prey that one day i look on here and find a post saying exactly what to do to kill the virus from someone that has been successful in testing negative :-) Keep posting guys as it helps all of us and gives us the hope to keep fighting on for a cure!!
Sorry Secondoutbreak i posted twice the same information.
Racquetman: I don't think anyone on this site is claiming to have found a definitive cure for this plague. We all have found different things and are using a combinations of things as a way to combat this virus. I understand that your a little skeptic but so are many of us. We don't know that this stuff is going to work but we are hoping and praying that it does. In regards the the MMS, I'm currently taking it and will find out next month if it worked. If it doesn't I would be heart broken but then I will try something else. I will not die with this disease in my body!
Hopefull: I began the MMS yesterday. I e-mailed them because the dosages are not totally clear. I planned on taking the MMS until July 18th when I go to be tested again. If it doesn't work by then I assume it will never work. I just really want to get my urine ph up but its such a struggle for me.
Has anyone heard of IPT? This looks really interesting. It seems to be an easy procedure that is curative for many conditions, including cancer and herpes. Tell me what you think! http://www.iptq.com/herpes.htm
I think that people need to accept that FOR NOW herpes remains a permanent condition. I spoke with "DR" Stoneburner and I'm fairly convinced that their products are simply a gimmick and they are preying on highly vulnerable people. Calling himself a Doctor is VERY misleading. He did not come across as being very articulate for a man in his supposed position and he appeared in the presentation of his product to be NOT convincing at all. Kim, I would like nothing more than for this procedure to be a success for you but I remain highly skeptical. I'm happy that Kims OBs have diminished so to a degree perhaps it may be a success. I'm not posting to dash peoples hopes. I apologize if anybody has been offended but I choose to speak the truth.
Racquetman: If we accept it at anytime how will we ever find a cure. Yes I am realistic and know that this plague is constantly present in my body but I am willing to do what I can (within reason) to rid myself of this disease. I've spent maybe $200 so far and if I have a 3% of ridding myself of this disease I would spend $200 more. A lot of this just comes down to faith. I believe in God and despite what I have done to acquire this disease I recognize that He is able to heal me. You don't have to ever apologize for being the "skeptic" on the hub. I value your opinion as much as anyone else's. What are you taking to manage this disease?
Has anyone tried the drops rom alkavision
http://www.alkavision.com/products.html
they claim to raise water to a pH of 10 thinking about trying them b/c even after not sticking to an alkaline diet I had a pH of 7 just need to get it up a little more and then keep it there. I remember Kim said something about a women testing negative after being on a low carb diet for severa months or does anyone have any other infor or links on people testhing negative after raising there pH
Misanoymous thanks for the info on Vit. C I have supplments that I take and will definately continue to take
I was also drinkning mineral water alot this weekend which I'm thinking may have help my pH not to drop too much
Second outbreak or anyone else may want to try mineral water too I read that the drops have alot of minerals in them which mineral water does. Not sure if who has cvs cards but for every 2 mineral waters you buy there righ now you get a dollar back in extra care bucks .
secondoutbreak: I feel fine. She said the treatment might bring on an ob, but it hasn't. It was a bit awkard laying there so long in a funky position with lights on my nether region, but other than that there was nothing to it. I'll keep you guys posted!
Racquetman: You're harshin' my mellow, dude! LOL, seriously, I understand... I think we are all a bit skeptical, but the idea is, if someday we do end up cured, then all the failed attempts were worth it. Plus, we are sharing with each other what does and doesn't so at least we know rather than trusting an advertisement. I was without hope, but am now having some tiny traces of it back, thanks to this hub (especially Kim!). We may seem (and even be) a bit crazy, but hey, we're entitled. Come to the crazy side man- we have way more fun!
Jb: I just looked at the IPT. IPT is when they draw blood form you and inject it directly where the virus lives....right? This is done because the antibodies that our body has created cannot penetrate to the disease. In theory it sounds feasible. There are only two Dr's in NY that do it. Only one has a website and it doesn't list using IPT for Herpes only for Cancer. MMS claims to kind of do the same thing. It attacks the virus and takes away it's "protecting coating" and allows your body to attack it. If you find any other information about it please post it.
Hope&Faith: You are my type of gal. I love a sale. I'm sitting here thinking where the nearest CVS is. I will definetely look into that. Can you do me a favor, please, and test the ph of the mineral water and let us know what it is. I would greatly appreciate that.
1Mistake2Many: I'm glad things are going well for you so far. I'm praying that this MMS will work for me.
WOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!! My urine ph is 7.0!!!!! I am so HAPPY!! Hope this is not TMI. Never thought I would be sharing aspects of my urine with other people, LOL!!
Congrats secondoutbreak!!! The pH of mineral water i tested was about a 6.5. On numerous websites it has been listed as alkaizing, i'm guessing it might the same as some fruits while they are acidic they have an alkalizing affect. But i think I am going to order some drops to help raise my pH
Congrats secondoutbreak!!! The pH of mineral water i tested was about a 6.5. On numerous websites it has been listed as alkaizing, i'm guessing it might the same as some fruits while they are acidic they have an alkalizing affect. But i think I am going to order some drops to help raise my pH
Kim,
Can you please update your results so far from the phototherapy? Are you doing the detox and how long has it been since your last ob? Thx.
Again, not to dash hopes but I've read numerous CLAIMS of people testing negative after certain treatments but it's all heresay unless it can be substantiated somehow. Even "DR" Stoneburner makes the claim of once having had the disease and now claims to test negative. He had nothing to show to substantiate that.
To the person that asked how I get treatment. I take Valtrex at the onset of an ob and it usually goes away immediately. However last week a blister formed that I wasn't aware of and it's taken about 1 week to clear up. I was a lucky one that only had obs about once a yr and as long as 22 mnths. However, they have increased in occurance in the last 20 months and I'm getting more obs now. Had one last July, then april, may and now june. That's the 1st time that occurred in the 7 1/2 yrs I've had this. I'll also add that I'm undergoing heavy stress due to a breakup. I'm open minded but find all of this stuff to be nothing more than snake oil. If and when there is a cure it will be done in the laboratory by REAL scientists and not some mumbo jumbo concoction that some 60 yr old swinger came up with.
secondoutbreak, the oil tastes pretty good. just like olive oil. I got it at the health food store two bottles. and I agree with you. we are all looking for a cure, If these things dont work that I am trying, I will try something else. and keep trying until I am cured. you never know until you try thats how cures are found.
JB, 3 for 3..wowo how promising. after 23 years i never told any one not even family until a couple months ago. after beng on this hub it gave me the courage to at least tell my mom. none of my regular drs know either.
cali, yes I am on my way to week number 3 no outbreaks!!! fingers crossed! toes crossed too!
racquetman, you can just watch us try these different things. we will be cured. it may take a while or a few trys at certain things but we will be cured. I have no reason to lie. when I started on this post I was very angry and crying all the time. I am not paid or get anything from the clinic of phototherapy. I think it is working for me. jsut a few months ago I had 12 outbreaks in one month. for the month of June so far only 1. and going on week #3 no outbreaks. when I am negative I will be happy to show you my personal lab results. I am sorry you did not have a positive experience after talking with Dr stoneburner. He is in fact a Dr , he is an eye Dr. and he will tell you that himself. they do not lie at his clinic. If you believe it is a gimmick thats OK too. If you think the MMS and PH raising is a gimmick, thats OK too. Maybe you can stay on valtrex while we try stuff and if something sparks your interest just give it a try....you NEVER know....Herpes is temporary. All you need is the faith of a mustard seed. You easilly accept taking valtrex everyday...there is a cure out there. we will find it. I am not offended just wondering what happened to you to lose all hope in anything except what drugs the physician gives you??? I am done with both Detox, I was still getting outbreaks during the detos both the full body and the anti-viral. My last ooutbreak was almost three weeks ago. I do not need to have another phototherapy treatment unless I have another outbreak. this is the longest I have been without an outbreak in a long long long time....I could not get my PH up so I alos ordered a PH Plan to raise your PH . I was going to start that Sunday but was not able to. I will start it in about a week or so. I want to be sure my urine PH stays up before I start the PH raising Plan.. I hav not tested my saliva yet just urine so far. Mysaliva was so low .....I am starting with my urine. The last time I was treated with Phototherapy was when I had my last outbreak. I have been treated 18 times at the clinic. most do not need that many treatments but I was getting outbreaks all the time. 5-12 outbreaks a month. So are all things created by real scientists in a lab??? I don't believe in that so I am hopeful that I will be cured of this disease and I will have the proof for you. when I test negative I will be more then happy to share my lab results with you. i don't know how to prove to you that I really was getting 5-12 outbreaks a month until phototherapy, you'll just have to believe me.
ope&faith, yes there was a woman who posted she testednegative after staying on a low carb diet she posted that after starting the diet she stopped getting outbreaks she said and I quote "i ate fruit and vegatables until i choaked" that is here exact words. she said 6 months later got retested and was negative. she was not promoting any product or saying to buy anythng . It would appear to me she raised her PH level and thus killed thevirus.
1stmistake2many, yes I sat many times with the light between my legs starring at the ceiling listening to nothing. I went 18 times...I hope it helps you. I think it works best during an outbreak. and I agree with you. i have hope, everyone has hope even people with cancer. we will be cured. its just when..thats all.....herpes is NOT forever.
secondoutbreak, 7.0 yahoo! I'm still at 7.0 or better for my urine ....your so funny...
jb, I looked up the IPT, I never heard of it, they need to start clinical trials on that.
I love this hub!
Hi Kim,
Do you think its worth ordering the 3 week full body detox? You said you still had outbreaks with it so i was just wondering if you think it really works? Maybe i should just try the MMS 3 day cure??
Thanks and i also love this hub!
So much love in the air.....how nice (smile). I think all the "regulars" love this hub. You guys don't know how bearable you have made living with this illness. I TRULY thank ALL of you (smoochies).
I haven't tested my urine this evening.....still "high" from my 1st 7.0 urine reading. I tested my saliva since getting home and that'a 7.25. Kim we seem to be opposite. You're able to raise your urine ph but not your saliva. My saliva rose pretty quickly but I have struggled to raise my urine ph.
Kim: I am curious to know how you feel about what Hopefull asked. Did you yield ANY benefits from the detoxes?
I'm thinking about buying the sesame oil and alkaline drops. At this point I don't think it can hurt.
Racquetman: I PROMISE you when I test negative I will send you a copy of my results. Matter of fact I'll be so happy I'll probably deliver them to you myself. Hope you're near NY or I'll be using my frequent flyer miles (smile).
I keep forgetting I wanted to tell you guys (and girls) about some things in case you don't know. I read in a natural cures book once that herpes can be cured with camu camu berries. They're grown in peru, and I never tried it because you can only get the powder or juice here and I wasn't sure it would be the same, or even if the cure claim was true (I was pretty much like racquetman, believing the medical community would let us know if there was indeed a cure). But after hearing about the vitamin c thing, I remember reading that the berries have massive amounts of it, so maybe that's actually 1 possibility to try. Not sure if they are alkalizing or not though, grin.
The other thing is (jb probably already knows this for sure) an herb called Melissa, or Lemon Balm. It's great for clearing up an ob fast. I used to use it mixed with some garlic and peppermint and rub it on an outbreak before I got on acyclovir (don't have obs with suppresion therapy, but quit the drugs last week.... it terrifies me, but I maintain my stubborn hope that I will not need them ever again!). It works pretty fast, especially if you drink lemon balm tea too. In fact, they have done studies in Germany (in a real lab with real scientists) that verified a cream containing Lemon Balm cleared up OBs way faster.
I go for my 2nd phototherapy treatment in the morning (so I should be in bed asleep, not on the hub, but I've become addicted to you all) and I think I'm gonna be brave and test my pH again (haven't checked it since the first day cuz I was so disappointed, lol). I only tweaked my diet a little, and started my apple cider vinegar in the mornings, so don't know if it will have changed any or not. On the topic of pH, I need some advice with this darn diet! My problem is I work out a lot- run several times a week and lift weights. Not huge weights (I'm a girl), but I eat a lot of protein to maintain the muscle I have- I shoot for about 100 grams a day. What proteins can I have other than whey ( I can only do so many proteing shakes a day!)? And other than nuts and meat, are there other foods with lots of arginine that I should avoid?
Thanks for all ya'lls help (that's how we say it in the south) and I love this hub too!
Oh yeah, Sheila's (chief researcher at the clinic here in AR) phone # is 479-221-5816 for anyone interested in the phototherapy here. She's a hoot and will tell you anything you want to know. Goodnight! =)
Kim, I never questioned your integrity and I didn't imply you were lying. I wish you the best of luck and believe me when I say I'm hoping your obs continue in remission. I'm not somebody that has no hope. I accept this for what it is. I believe there will eventually be a cure and/or vaccine but not so hopeful it will be anytime in the near future. I'm fairly intelligent and know scams when I see them. I'm not saying these remedies do not help. If you say your obs have lessoned then I believe it. But as far as their claim that 93% of patients are in total remission is totally bogus and unsubstantiated. I would just like to see ONE substantiated claim that someone who had the virus, subsequently tested negative after treatment. To my knowledge, it has never been done. "DR" Stoneburner is NOT a medical doctor. There is a huge difference in being an optometrist and a medical doctor. He CAN NOT prescribe medication. ANYBODY can make any claim they wish but unless it is proven medically it really holds no merit. That's not a lack of hope or faith. It's simply the truth.
secondoutbreak...your a trip! lol, hey can i please have your email address? i would really like a copy of the 3 day cure! I too love this cure, i do not write regualarly but i do read every single day and this has given me so much hope. i will try to raise my ph and keep it there...i WILL beat this virus! we all will! i know things seem skeptical racquetman but if you have faith anything will work! kim is right...all you need is the faith of a mustard seed! we will all be free
also...i forgot to mention...i looked and thoroughly read the vitamin c reports... what really caught my eye was about the vit. c being injected into the lesion. this is my theory... when a lesion appears that is when the virus is active...correct? vitamin c kills active viruses...correct? when a blister forms the fluid inside is a whole bunch of active virus particles...correct? well my theory is to inject vit c ( powederd absorbic acid diluted with water just like in the studies ) into the lesions every time an outbreak occurs, then i will apply the zinc paste externally every day several times a day (as done in the zinc studies) this will be able to catch the viral shedding if done every day ( the study clearly states this and it has to be done over a long term period ) within a couple of months, if i continually penetrate the lesions with vit. c killing off the active particles, and i catch the viral shedding, then that means with each time that i kill what is active i reduce the viral levels in my body ( never stated anywhere that i know of but its sort of common sense ) after reducing the virus levels in my body i will raise my ph for a while ( 4-6 months ), then the body will be strong enough to fight off what is left in the body! im only 18, and this is only my hypothesis and theory, but i think with the studies that are documented and the combination of internal vit c (which is a vitamin so it will not have harmful effects ) and the topical zinc paste....then the rising of ph....the virus wont be able to survive!
please EVERYONE tell me what you think ok...im young so i might not be thinking clearly or...i dont know :) just want second opinions...but to me this is completely logical.... re look at these sites and evaluate my hypothesis... (please :) )
i dont know why its not working but look above under ms anonymous, she posted it
Hi! So... I just found out i have type 2 officially today, although i was pretty sure what it was when i first discovered my symptoms last week. i've just spent the last few hours reading this hub, and I just want to say THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH! I really feel so so so much better now; i don't feel nearly as 'defective' as i did a few hours ago. It feels so much better knowing that I have at least a little bit of control over something that made me feel so helpless... i've got my ph sticks ordered and hope to 'get the high score' by the time they arrive. It's funny, I'm almost excited about starting my healthy new lifestyle, as right now I literally survive on fast food, soda, cookies and stimulants of varying degrees of legality. ha. It's a wonder this is my only affliction, eh? fortunately, I happen to have the Best Boy Ever who's been supportive from the second I found my symptoms (i told him right away; there's no way i could hide being as stressed as i've been for a week.) to this afternoon when I got my test results and bawled my eyes out on his shoulder. He just keeps telling me that we'll get through this together. Throughout this week, I've managed to accept what I have, but my biggest worry in the whole wide world at this moment is that I'll pass it on to him, so now I'm gonna do every little bitty thing I can to make sure I don't. I really appreciate everything I've learned from you guys tonight. Thanks again, I look forward to hearing how all of you guys and your respective treatments are doing! Can I say thanks one more time? Thank you!!
found some info on a possible new anti-viral drug...
hopeful, I would go for the MMS. But thats my opinion. while on teh full body detox and the anti-viral detox, i still got outbreaks. but the outbreaks were reduced. I am not sure if it was the phototherapy or the detox??? I have just started the PH Plan today I may get an outbreak now because i might detox too fast with this but I'm giving it a try. MMS is less sepensive then the detox. If these things dont work for me I will also try the MMS and then the electro therapy thing...I cant remember the name...its on this hub under new cures...I will keep trying different things until something works.
secondoutbreak, we can deliver our negative results together for racquetman...I'll have too look up that camu camu .sounds like it could work with the Vit C and yes I have heard about the lemon balm. I heard good posts on that. high arginine foods are nuts chocolate and caffeine. also stay away from artificial sweetners they are also herpes triggers. I drink a soy protein drink , tastes bad, but thats how i get most of my protein. i think if you start drinking alkaline water your urine PH will also raise.
youngandsad, hummm this vit C thing...I wonder if I use DMSO with Vit C powder..if it will absorb in my body and kill the virus??? DMSO for those who don't know is a solvant and is dangerous because when you use it , it takes anything on your body and absorbs it into your body with oxygen. so if you have bleach on your body and rub DMSO on it , the bleach will be absorbed in your body. but good news is you're suposed to use the DMSO on your genital area so chances of something bad being there and absorbed in the body is prtty slim. with that said, I think I will put that on my list of things to try , DMSO and Vit C powder.....hummmm gee i feel like a scientist! i think you may be on to something there.....
racquetman, i know he is not a medical Dr. Dr. Stoneburner told me that himself. He came across this treatment many years ago in college. Thats why Dr. Orhon has to do the testing he is a medical Dr. The only changes the "scientists" made in 23 years is instead of taking surpressive therapy 3 times a day, its once a day...whoooooo BIG DEAL. you would think after 23 years they would have more. its basically the same drug as presscribed 23 years ago only you take it less. BIG DEAL! you're right if I wait for the medical team or scientist I will have this forever. So far I think I am proof that the phototherapy does something...I am hoping for outbreak free and a negative result. I am not done with the phoththerapy, if something bad happens I take another treatment. I may get an outbreak soon though because I've started the PH Plan and if I raise my PH too soon I'll get an outbreak...
youngandsad, thats right we all need to keep the hope alive ....we will be cured. no doubt about it ...we will. its just when...some of us are trying a few things...one of us just might be then next person cured and then rocquetman will have his proof without the science.
1mistake2many, I wish you luck during your second treatment. are you having an outbreak now??? becaue i think it works better if you ar in the middle of an outbreak..Oh and if you exercise too much your body produces acid! you have to moderate your workouts. for example runners are too anaerobic not aerobic. if you workout to hard your body becoms acidic. I have slowed my workouts to walking and light weight lifting. I was also an avid workout person..running , jogging heavy weights...my urine PH is finally up so today I am starting the PH Plan..we'll see what happens.
veruca, hi there...stay away from nuts chocolate and caffeine..and artificial sweetners..they are herpes triggers..see you have given me hope...jb said they are 3 for 3 after telling the person they had herpes, that person stayed and now you with a supporting boyfriend. I thank you for reinforcing my hope that there may be someone out there who will still want me. thats why I never told anyone ..you are a strong person, stronger then I with the courage to tell your partner. thank you again for really making me think about risking it and possibly telling my next partner about herpes. Can I say thanks one more time...? thanks lol
Good Morning Everyone
It's to the point now that when I read this hub I have to take notes so I remember everything I want to say (smile).
Can I get the Alkaline drops from the health food store or do I have to buy them online? I would like to start that ASAP.
I tested the ph of the MMS drink and it doesn't have a high ph so I don't know what cause my urine to spike yesterday. Unfortunetely it is back down this morning. But just it spiking once has given me hope.
Ok ok with all this Vitamin C talk. I actually dismissed it initially as something that wouldn't work but it seems that many of you believe in it so I'm going to get some of that today as well. So should I get the tablets or should I get it in powder form, please advise. Since I'm making a trip to the health food store I'll look into the camu camu berries as well. I was going to buy the Melissa lemon balm but it doesn't come in a cream form and I wasn't sure how to exactly apply it. I'm hoping to never have an outbreak again so PRAYERFULLY I won't ever have to use it. Oh I have to get the sesame oil too.
Youngandsad: My e-mail is tallnsexy99@yahoo.com. Let me know via the hub when you e-mail me so I'll check my spam folder also as somethimes the messages are sent to that folder.
Veruca: Did you say cookies.........I don't know what is wrong with me. In the last two weeks I have been eating cookies like crazy! I just can't stop. It's not even 10 am and I've already had one and have two more on my desk. Please pray for me (smile).
Now I'll check the links that everyone has posted. Thanks for the info.
ok secondoutbreak...i sent you an email :) thank you
Kim,
Thanks for the information. What is the difference between the 3 day MMS cure and the PH Plan that you are starting today?
Thanks!!
hopeful, the PH plan is taking about 60-70 capsules a day and drinking alkaline water all day,,it just raises your PH level if you are very acidic and cannot raise your levelnaturally with food. since I have been eating a 98% alkaline diet since October and my PH levels were awful. I decided to try this. I think it is working. My urine ph has been up just by drinking their alkaline drops, they actually have two different drops you put in distilled water. I believe the theory about raising your PH and because I could not do it alone I decided to try this. If I do not get cured with the phototherapy and this then I will also try the MMS. Totally different stuff.
secondoutbreak, yes a healthfood store sells alkaline drops but I find they are not as good. but my acidic level was awful. Your urine goes up and down according to what you eat and drink. It can be 7.0 and you have icecream and coocolate and next 2 hours its down to 6.0 or lower. My morning urine is now constant between 6.50 and 7.0 and 7.50 or higher through the day so I am starting the PH Plan today. and will test my saliva tomorrow. I use the powder form on my salad, i sprinkle it on. and take oral vit C as well. I do not know which works better though. and remember you cannot overdose on Vit C it is a water soluable vitamin and you pee it out so dont worry about over dose. just thought i'd throw that in...lol i'm thinking this Vit C has merit too. I posted that I would like to try the powdered vit C and the DMSO. it cant hurt. so Vit C is absorbed in your body..no harm there...got to go time to suck on my sesame oil...yummmmmmyum
When I get home tonight I'll send you the plan youngandsad
I thought the sesame oil was to be taken in the morning before you brush your teeth? How many times are you supposed to do it Kim?
I'm going to get the Vitamin C tablets. I'm already swallowing lysine, olive pills, and valtrex what's another pill.
Maybe I'll get the alkaline drops from the health food store and see how they work.If there isn't a difference in about a week I'll look into another brand. I'm also scared to get something to strong and spark another outbreak, then I'll have to change my name to ThirdOutbreak, lol.
Does Vitamin C raise your ph?
racquetman: There's a video link somewhere on this hub you should watch, it details two possible cures for herpes that are at a standstill due to lack of funding. One is a ribosome therapy developed at the University of Florida... if you don't find the link google it. I actually went to UF's web site and found the info on the study. Over the past few years I've become disillusioned with the medical community. I have a family member who is a doctor and I would be terrified to allow her to treat me. Through a lot of research and self experimentation I have found many so called 'alternative' therapies to be valid and effective. Germany has a Commission E, the equivelant of our FDA, that evalutates herbal and natural medical treatments and releases reports on their effectiveness, yet mainstream American doctors won't accept anything as valid that can't be prescribed. I also feel that they are under extreme pressure by pharmaceutical companies that charge such exhorbitant prices for medications that people resort to sneaking meds across the border where they've bought them for 1/4th of the price. Anyway, to make a short story long.... these are just a few of the reasons I believe it is possible to find a cure, even if that is just permanent suppression, outside of mainstream medicine. I do hope you stay on the hub- we are a community and we should stick together regardless of differing points of view. I do hope you will consider the possibility that there are other intelligent people here as well, and the fact that we are open minded to alternative possibilites doesn't denote lesser mental faculties.
Kim: sigh... so many things I can't have...I have the soy protein powder too. I make a shake in the blender with blackberries or pineapple and some plain yogurt... it helps the taste. You can also mix it in with some yogurt and honey, except honey's a no no, so maybe stevia? I hope yogurt isn't a no no too! I am concerned about the caffeine- I really believe in the immune boosting properties of green tea, so I drink several glasses a day... maybe I'll switch to decaf. yuck. Also, I'm not having an outbreak.... haven't had one in a loooong time (suppression therapy). I quit the meds, but still didn't get one. Got a period coming up in a couple weeks (I know, TMI) so we'll see- that used to be the main trigger for me. I'm pretty nervous because I'm a chicken like you and haven't told my bf. I told my ex husband and he was great about it, until we divorced and he threatened to tell everybody and said anyone I tried to date he would make sure they knew. Not keen on letting anyone else know after that...
Oh yeah, I drank the acv in apple juice with a few drops of stevia and a pinch of baking soda for fizz this morning. It's amazing how much better it goes down with a little fizz! My pH this morning was 6.0, so I'm stoked to amp up the alkaline foods and maybe start the water... just don't wanna get carried away and raise it too fast =)
secndoutbreak, i do it three times a day. I just swish it around in my mouth three times a day for 15 minutes. I don't drink it. However this PH plan has me drinking 2 Tbls after my lunch. Vit C does not raise our PH ...Just remember when you are using the alkaline drops just start out slowly. usual dose is 12 drops per 8 oz of water. just start with 3 drops and every couple of days add a drop or two so you dont raise your PH level too fast.
1mistake2many, I was having a hard time with my PH too. it was a bummer to see my mom get to 7.0 or better in just weeks and here I am eating fruit and veggies for months and get 6.0 URGGGH...but now its different. Yahoo. I will test my saliva tomorrow. Not hoping for much change because the program says my PH will change after 3-4 days on the program..but I will see....I'm crossing my fingers and toes for you..no outbreaks, no outbreaks, no outbreaks...
Hey everybody soo much info on here I feel like I should take notes too.
I was also wondering what kind of protein was ok to eat so are chicken and eggs a complete no no? Because I workout too and feel like I need to be eating some protein.
1Mistaketoo many what kind of protein powder do you get and where? I should probably try some shakes.
I ordered 2 types of drops online one from alkavision that claims to get water pH to 10 mainly with cessium and oxygen and then some other from neveranoutbreak.com that you can add to acidic drinks like coffee alcohol etc. that are suppossed to make them less acidic so you can drink them in moderation if those worked it would be amazing b/c I like green too and like a drink from time to time I just have to figure out how to explain to my friends why I'm putting the drops in my drink.
Kim: How exactly is lemon juice bad for your teeth b/c i have been putting that in my water until my drops come?
I'm going to stop & shop later gonna check out there organic section for all natural yogurt i'm guessing that kind would be ok no artificial sweetners but if anyone knows different let me know. I will probably get calcium supplments too and of course more veggies.
Best wishes to everyone!
Kim: I was also curious how did your mom get her pH up, like what did she eat and how long did it take?
Hello Everyone
I took a trip to the health food store and bought Vitamin C, more Organic ACV, Mineral drops, and Camu Camu berries. So now I'm taking 6 drops of MMS, Olive Pills, Lysine pills, valtrex, camu camu juice, and vitamin c. QUESTION: I read to combat this plague you should take 4000 mg of Vitamin C. Is this correct? Seems a little much even for a pill popper such as myself. That'll be 8 Vitamin C pills a day.
Youngandsad: I sent the info to you. Let us know what you think.
Hope&Faith: I will be interested to know if either drop will raise your ph. The one from neveranoutbreak SEEMS to only reduce the acidity in drinks. Unsure if that raises your ph. I guess if you add it to water it would. Please let us know.
Protein powder drinks are great but be careful. Most have artificial sweeteners. I use Jay Robb protein powder. It's the only one I've found made with Stevia. It's high quality protein and tastes great. I get it at Whole Foods.
It's so interesting that I was gone to my mom's for a day and I feel like I missed so much. Thanks to everyone for posting such helpful and informative posts about the different treatments and supplements that you are trying. There is definitely power with knowledge, and there is a vast amount of this on the hub.
1mistake, I'm so happy to hear you starting the phototherapy treatment. Your situation is simular to mine. I am also on acyclovir which suppresses my outbreaks pretty well. I will be getting the phototherapy treatment in October, and I will stop taking the acyclovir two weeks prior to treatment as instructed by the staff in the Florida clinic. I am curious to see how well you do, because since I will be traveling, it's not like I can schedule to go when I have an outbreak, so I will just hope during my treatment it occurs...because everyone suggests the treatment is most effective during an outbreak. Thanks funny, never thought I would be hoping for an outbreak!!! Keep us posted on your progress.
Once again, thanks to everyone on the hub...you too Racquetman)LOL!!! I truly appreciate everyone's dedication and commitment to continue the fight and support each other, no matter how different our opinions may be. We all share that common desire, to one day be cured
Take care
Hi Kim,
Where do you order the PH Plan from and is anyone else doing it?
Thanks!
Hi Kim and Secondoutbreak,
Sorry for all the questions!!! There is so much great information and feedback on this Hub lately it gets a little overwhelming with all the stuff on here :-)
What i wanted to know was it seems everyone is trying to raise there PH level for an extended period right?? The question i have is everyone is trying different things such as Olive pills, Vitamin C, MMS Camu Camu berries etc to raise there PH level, so we dont all have to do the same things?? Some may just try a few different supplements which would raise the PH level right?? I guess im just confused on which things to take as everyone is metioning new stuff everyday :-)
Secondoutbreak - What is Organic ACV? Does Mineral Drops suppose to raise your Ph Level? If you dont mind i would love for you to tell me exactly what your routine is per day in regards to what your taking as i would love to follow your plan, i could email you if you dont mind or i guess you could post it on the hub.
Thanks!!!!
hopeful....look up braggs apple cider vinegar, its supposed to be the best!
Hopeful: My plan is greatly flawed so I doubt you would want to follow me. My saliva ph is steadily between 6.75 and 7.25 but my urine always falls short. It spiked once, yesterday, but I couldn't tell you what I did. To raise your ph you have to eat alot of raw green vegetables, which I struggle with. While I don't mind eating my veggies, they have to be cooked. Never been a fan of raw vegetables. I know Kim is on a STRICT diet I think it'll b best to follow what she does. I hoe your ph doesn't give you as much trouble as mine is. It can be SO aggravating. I have stopped eating meat and drinking soda but still struggle with my affinity to cookies. I just can't stop, lol.
Organic ACV (Apple Cidar Vinegar). Brand name Braggs from a health food store. The ph in it is off the chart. I'm TRYING to drink a little every night to help raise my ph.
I asked the clerk in the health food store for alkaline drops and he gave me the mineral ones. He said there similar. I didn't test my ph this evening, can make ya a lil depressed. I will test in the morning and see if all these remdeies are doing anything to raise my ph.
Secondout break: I will let you know about the drops when they come but yeah one of the drops are supposed to just reduce the acidity of drinks (I wonder if they have anything to help with cookies lol) so it doesn't ruin my pH and i'm hoping with a better diet and the other drops I can raise it.
JB thanks for the tip on protein powder it was funny earilier when i went to stop & shop in the organic else I didn't see any protein powder but I was going to try soy milk with fruit for a smoothie and then in the checkout line noticed it was sweetended with spenda! I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure splend isn't organic!
Splenda---BAD!! Get some Stevia. I'm telling you you can't even tell the difference. You made me laugh Hope&Faith, I wish they did make something that made cookies a healthy part of my diet, lol. I'm doing better today. After breakfast I have been snacking on Organic carrots---YEAH for me!
I forgot to drink the camu camu juice this morning. Will take it tonight.
Gonna test my ph now. Wish me luck! (fingers crossed).
faith&hope. some food charg=ts say eggs are acid others say alkaline here are some proteins from a web site Whey Protein Powder Cottage Cheese Chicken Breast Yogurt Almonds Chestnuts Tofu (fermented) Flax Seeds Pumpkin SeedsTempeh (fermented) Squash Seeds Sunflower Seeds Millet Sprouted Seeds. I have just recently changed from soy protein to whey protein. still yuck..but alkaline. Right now I take NO protein at all while I am on the PH PLan. Only fresh fruit and veggies. Lemon causes this "In vitro study of enamel erosion caused by soft drinks and lemon juice " straight from a web site. Thats why I now only use the alkaline water. Oh my mom only changed her diet to fruits and veggies and bam! next thing you know its up ...she only drank water though but did not need to buy drops or anything...
secondoutbreak, I have camu camu berries on my list of things to by too...once I am off this PH Plan I will start on those too of course with my Vit C. Hey they sell Vit C in 1000 mg. The ester C is the best, it stays in your body 24 hours.. Wal-Mart has it. so you can only take 4 insted of 8..Right now on this PH Plan I take about 60 capsules a day and am drinking powder stuff and sitting in a sauna and taking 2 tbls spoon fulls of oil a day yuck and of cours swishing the oil in my mouth several times a day with oil then spitting it out. that part is not in this plan but I'm doing it anyway. I'm hitting this virus with everything ... going on week #3 no outbreaks....almost there..I am sure the drops on neveranoutbreak raise your PH ..So far for me I like the ones I got on this PH Plan.
cali, nice to hear from you again....you have my number call me anytime!!!! really anytime.....
hopeful, I got the PH Plan from the site I purchased the PH stixs from PHION stix. They have a few plans I purchsed the alkalinizing Plan. They had one that was more expensive but I took the second one the alkalinizer pack here is the site http://www.energiseforlife.com/cat--Alkalising-Pac I got the one for 149.00.
hopeful, lots of people are trying different things. its a little confusing..but Vit C and Camu Camu and olive leaf do not raise your PH. I am trying to raise my PH to kill the virus by taking the PH Plan, if that does not work I will try MMS, if that does not work then I may try to UP my VIT C intake and take the camu camu with high doses of Vit C ,,,I think most of us are trying to raise our ph as one component of also doing other things..its like we are a train steaming along for a cure...we are all on board and are trying several things mixed together..I am going to write down what everyone is doing and keep track on paper their progress as I get confused too...lol to my knowledge no one is trying the PH Plan but me. I am so acidic. I couldnt raise my PH through food alone. organic ACV is organic Apple Cider Vinegar, the only viengar that is alkaline..it raises your PH and so so good for you so many be3nefits. Mineral drops do not raise your PH level. Only alkaline drops.
secondoutbreak, no say NO to cookies...just tell yourself they are poison really, it worked for me. say out loud if you can. cookies are poison. If you feel like a coookie get some grapes or some fruit in its place.
hope&faith, I never ordered the drops form neveranoutbreak that go in your drinks I understand they alter the taste of the drink. let me know if they do. I stopped the soy becaue I found a few sites that said soy is acidic. some lists on teh alkaline acidic food chart are different and because I am so acidic I am staying strict with alkaline only foods. I would stay away from the soy if you are acidic. I know I used to take it but I have found on several sites they are on the acid side. Some sites say alkaline others acidic. So I am no longer taking my soy protein. I bought whey instead. also splenda or ANY artafacial sweetner IS A HERPES TRIGGER. NO to splenda. like secondoutbreak said splenda BAD-stevia good...
hope&faith it took my mom about 2 1/2 weeks to raise her PH..
I did some research on mineral drops, mineral drops increase your alkaline level. soooo I was wrong. When I inquired about mineral drops at the vitamin store I was informed that mineral drops do not increase your alkaline level thats when he gave me the "green powder" to increase my PH. Stupid vitamin store guy....I'm going there tonight and talk to him....sorry for the misinformatin guys. see serves me right. I should just look up the stuff myself...lol......
Hi Second Outbreak.. soooo glad that info was helpful...
I just got the book NOB and am doing the DMSO etc treatment.. bear in mind I have never had an "outbreak" but rather "tested" weakly positive for the type 2. I will be retested after July 8th with the regular herpeselect test and then the gold standard Western Blot test.. sooo, I will let you know if any of the numbers change after all the things I have been doing.. OOO, DMSO, Apple Cider Vinegar, Collodial Silver, etc etc.
Kim: I wish I knew about the 1000mg Vitamin C before I bought the Cap c-500. They were on sale so I can't be but so mad.
My urine ph today was 7.0 AND I didn't eat ANY cookies!!!
MMS: I'm up to eight drops and today was the firat time that I felt any type of nausea. I am VERY disappointed with their customer service. I e-mailed them three days ago regarding the correct dosage of MMS and still haven't heard back from them. I'm going to call my credit card compamy and get a number for them.
Kim, Yes I have your number and I will be calling you soon. I just love everyone on this site, you guys are great!!!
Second Outbreak, that's great news about your PH, and you staying away from the cookies. I know how hard that can be
Devastating News, Good luck with the NOB, I still use the cream when I am getting an outbreak, and it is usually gone in a day. The book has a wealth of knowledge about the proper herpes and the foods to eat and not to eat, as well as the amount of exercise that is allowable, because if you over do it, this will produce excess amounts of lactic acid, and could trigger an outbreak. Well keep us updated on your progress
Take care everyone
Sorry about my post "proper herpes". Oops I just meant to say herpes
Wow, this hub is great, but it's getting expensive, lol. Today I bought the ester C, unsweetened protein powder, and lots of fruits and veggies, but I'm not sure how hard core I can be with this diet! This weekend I'll probably drink, but I'm trying to rationalize (I'm good at that): if I just put a little alcohol in some fruit juice, maybe they'll cancel each other out... ok, I know that's wishful thinking! I can't wait to hear about those drops, because I'm gonna need them- if I have to give up caffeine and alcohol both I'm gonna be no fun to be around at all!
Kim: I'm curious if your mom had a specific reason for raising her pH and if so, was it succesful?
Hope&Faith: thanks to this hub I just bought some "Super Protein" protein powder at Kroger because it didn't have any sweetener in it. I'm sure it will taste marvelous. =( It was on sale for $10 and has 16 servings in it. As for explaining to friends about the drops.... I have told mine that I'm trying to raise my pH because I've been reading how healthy it is and how it keeps you from getting sick and prevents cancer... it's all true, and not at all embarrasing. Of course I'm already known as the resident health nut, so they expect that kinda thing from me anyway ;-)
Cali: I know exactly what you mean, normally I'm terrified of having an outbreak- every little itch panics me, but this is the first time I've wished for one! Oh well.... last (hopefully) treatment is tomorrow, but I think I've learned some things that make me feel like a fool for shelling out all the money. Not about the success or failure of it, but rather how it's done. UVA light is just a black light- fluorescent light encased in Wood's glass which only allows the UVA rays out. You can order UVA bulbs online for less than $10. I'm pretty sure the dye they use is perylene bisimide, but as for that, I would have no idea how to get it or how much it cost. I doubt it costs $590 though! Not that I'm unhappy with the clinic or the results- they deserve to make a living, and if the treatment works it's worth every penny. Just wondering if we might could rig up our own for home treatment (which we hopefully won't need!) without having to buy their $300 one. Just something to think about, and maybe research more...
Secondoutbreak: Where'd you get your camu camu juice and how does it taste? I bought Noni juice once and it's disgusting!
1mistake, You are right there is a home kit out there with the UV rays I think it is like 299.00. Kim has also used this along with her treatment she has at the clinic. I thought about doing this instead of flying to Florida and spending all that money, however, I just want to make sure it is done right. So I figured I would go to the clinic. Maybe once I go, and see how its done, I will decide to purchase it. Well good luck more treatment. Here's hoping you won't need anymore!!
Take care
kim thanks for your help!!
So Vit C and Camu Camu and olive leaf do not raise your PH? It seems that i should be on the PH Plan then right?? I just got my Olive leaf capsules and MMS today which i thought would raise my PH level. Should i order the PH Plan? I guess i am now wondering what good is the Vit C, Camu camu and Olive leaf for eliminating the Herpes Virus?
Thanks!!
Hi Kim and secondoutbreak and everyone for that matter,
I am little down at the moment so wanted to write something to you guys. I just went to my long time Family doctor today and told him that i have Herpes. I was telling him that i was diagnosed in January by another doctor(and yes got blood tests done) and have finally come to terms that i have this rotten virus!! I said my main aim/goal was to test negative and find a cure! He looked at me as if to say there is no cure and he then said you take medication for it to supress the outbreaks. I then went on to tell him about Phototherapy and how everyone is trying to raise there PH Level to destroy the Herpes Virus.
I guess i just wanted to ask you guys if you really believe that raising your PH Level will be enough to cure us all? Where did you hear this works? Kim you said you have heard of all spoken to a lady that raised her PH Level by just eating vegetables and changing her diet and that cured her, is this true?? has anyone else heard of anyone actually being cured for Herpes?? I guess i just want to know of just one person that has been cured and how it exactly happened instead of someone saying i heard through a friend of a friend etc etc that someone was cured.
After seeing my Doctor it just seemed that he thinks there is no cure at all and i want to believe there is but also have to be realistic!!!
Thanks Everyone and take care!!
Good Morning Everyone:
1Mistake2Many: Did you say rationalize....I too am the Queen of rationalizing, my friends get on me ALL the time about that, lol. I agree get some juice and mix it with some alcohol and you'll be just fine, lol. I am just joking. I did see the home phototherapy but I read that in order for it to be effective you have to be having an outbreak at the time. I'm going to look for the perylene bisimide, if I find it I will let you know where those who are interested in doing the home treatment can get it. They recommened you take the Camu Camu juice in the morning. Now it's very sweet and drinking it on an empty stomach makes me a little nausea but it passes quickly. It doesn't taste bad--MUCH better than MMS!!!
Oz: I was wondering where you've been. Seems you've been cheating on us with another hub. THE NERVE, lol. When I first starting reading about the Letrojet I was thinking I am NOT zapping my vagina with electricity! After I read some more and got to the painless part I was more open to it. How much does it cost?
Hopefull: Olive pills claim to elimante the virus from your body. It doesn't make any claim to raise your ph. But I must say something is raising my ph and it's NOT my diet. FYI: I'm taking 2000mg of lysine, 1000mg of Vitamin C, 4 olive pills, and 2 Valtrexes daily. I will be taking 9 drops of MMS this morning.
WantCure: I can't remember every place that I've read that raising you ph kills the virus but if you google ph and herpes you'll find it. We all know how your feeling but there is hope! EVERYONE on this hub is committed to beating this disease. We all have different genetic make ups so what works for Kim may not work for me but what maybe what Hopefull or Hope&Faith are doing will. It's all about finding what works best for you. Many of us are on different paths but hope to reach the same goal. To raise your ph you will have to change your diet. Eat plenty of green vegetables (raw) and fruit. Drink alkaline (oxygenated water). Eliminate certain nuts, soda, meat, pork, sweets, sugar etc. But raising your ph is just one option. Olive pills also claim to eliminate the virus. Google Olive pills and herpes and you will see the benefits of taking olive pills, you can order the pills from www.olivus.com. Large doses (4000mg) of Vitamin C also help eliminate the virus. There is a treatment called phototherapy that Kim and 1Mistake2many are doing. They use UV light to kill the virus. Kim has had GREAT success with this. Detoxes (full body and viral) are another way of raising your ph and eliminating the virus. MMS: is a mineral used to weaken the virus so your body can destroy it. Whooooo did I get it all?!?! As you can see there are so many ways to go about this....OH and Oz just sent info on Letrojet, Kim found info on Urine Therapy (YUCK) and YoungandSad found info on Zinc treatment and some sort of injection (OUCH) therapy. Now we have not tried all these things so we can't vouch that they all work. I don't think any of us (besides Kim) have been tested since beginning these treatments. I plan on getting tested July 18th at which time I will let everyone know the results. Feel free to ask any question you would like. One of us (probably not me cause I'm the "special" one on this hub-smile) should be able to answer it for you.
I have clients here but after I'm done I'm going to look into the Letrojet and test my ph.
I just typed up a response with links to ph sites and the benefits of Olive pills. For some reason it didn't post (SUPER SAD FACE).
My urine ph is 6.5 and my saliva is 7.5!
Oz: I couldn't find info on Letrojet please post the link.
1Mistake2Many: Most info I found on perylene bisimide is in pdf format and I can't open those types of files at work. I know how BOOTLEG.
Hi,
I have been through everyones comment and was wondering if y'all could help answer some questions for me. I just recently got married and my husband found out that he has herpes. The only reason we knew is I found a prescription bottle from his ex in his stuff when we moved in together for acyclovair. I made him go get tested right away. We have never had unprotected sex and i was tested in december and it was negative. My question is, is there really a way for him to get rid of this? I mean I love him so much and I always pictured not having to worry about condoms and what not when I did get married that it has been really hard on me. What is truly working for y'all? We don't have a lot of money to spend but I want him to try something.
Also, he told me recently that there are times when he has turned down sex with me because he had outbreaks ( but I never knew about them, I did know he had herpes though). I just thought he was rejecting me so it has made this really hard. I thought he had only ever had one outbreak so far. Any advice on how I can get him to be more open with me about that kind of stuff?
Thanks in advance!
SECONDOUTBREAK, YAHOO. (JUMPING UP AND DOWN) no TO THE COOKIES..7.0 YAHOO!!!! how long do you have to take the MMS for???
devistating news, yes i purchased and read the book you now that as well. very informative. the DMSO worked for 2 months for me..but only after I had to use it every day. I used so much of it I had to wear a pad it was getting all over my underwear...then my back got a bad rash because I used it 3-5 times a day ,,,everyday..then it just stopped working...
1mistake toomany, i'm laughing out loud over here..how about if you eat icecream with strawberrries,,hey it has strawberries in it..lol..thats funny limes are alkaline try to add that in a drink lol my mom only raised her PH because I told her why I was on the diet and she wanted to "try it" much to my surprise...she shot up to 7.0 in no time..and she was a junk food junkie!
wantcure, on this hub we are all looking to test negative. the lady i was referring to was on a chat room post and said she is now negative after being on a low carb diet and eating fruit and veggies until she choked...well she didnt actually choke but her message was she ate a lot of veggies and fruit. she was not selling anything or promoting anything..i believe as in theory, if you raise your PH to 7.5 it will kill teh virus...herpes cannot live in an environment of 7.5 or higher ...it dies, just like bacteria, it dies as well many studies have been done on this theory..NO M.D. is going to tell you there is a cure. they will give you supressive therapy for the rest of your life.People find cures all the time by trying things. we are all trying things that have worked for others or in theory has worked. I did not personally talk to this lady in person..she was in a chat room post thing...I did however talk to people who had phototherapy and did say they are herpes free for at least 3-5 years depending on the person and how long ago they were treated.
hopeful, I am trying the PH plan first and it is working..my levels today were 7.0 or higher nothing lower even my first urine..and I am now at week 3 no outbreaks...I think I will do the PH Plan and continue for a few months unless somethig BAD happens.. if something happens , like an outbreak, I will try the MMS and VIT C. For ME this PH Plan is working they said after 3 days I would be green and this is day 3 and I am green. at least it does what they say. The Vit C and CAMU CAMU berries have shown to stop herpes...from what I have read the CAMU CAMU berries contain the highest concentrated VIT C around...I know a lot of VIT C may also cause diarrhea. like I sad you cannot overdose on VIT C because you pee it out but too much will give you the runs...
secondoutbreak, so you are taking the CAMU CAMU and MMS?? my saliva cant get above 7.0 darn it but my urine is well over 8.0 now. how do you do it???? darn..maybe in a few more days my saliva willbe over the 7.0 mark. hey a month ago it was 5.0 so I shouldn't complain...I think the letrojet shocks your wrists and lower back not your genitals...I'll have to revisit that..that method is also on my list of things to do...if nothing else works : 0 ) I wonder what is raising your PH??? maybe it is the MMS ???I couldn't find anything tht really says what the MMS REALLY is. you got it all in a nut shell to want cure ! darn your good!
confused, we all have the same goal "to test negative" in stead of just following doctors orders and staying on supressive therapy we have all chosen several things that have either been proven or in theory these things we are trying gits rid of the virus. secondoutbreak had a great post a few up from mine here summing up what everyone is doing. the MMS is the cheapest only about 25.00 secondoutbreak is curently trying that method. for starters changing his diet may help. NO chocolate, no caffeine, no artificial sweetners, no nuts..these are all herpes triggers...his outbreaks may be less after that ..also olive leafe capsules are inexpensive and have been proven very effective in eliminating the virus ..those few things are inexpensive that he can try..keep posting we are an active bunch of people....you have friends here..we will all try our best to help you..as far as him bein gopen about herpes...thats a tough one. I've had this over 23 years and have never told a partner...too embarrassed , ashamed and afraid...someone here posted that when you talk about it and act like its no big deal it may be better...I for one have never discussed herpes with a partner though but with the help of everyone here on this hub I am thinking about telling my next partner...
Confused - So sorry you have to deal with this as a newlywed! I know how your husband feels - I did the same thing with my ex-husband. I think it is part of the reason we ended up divorced. Frequently rejecting your mate kills intimacy. I would come up with excuses (not in the mood, lied about my period, tired, etc) to avoid bringing up "H" even though he knew about it and was accepting. It's such a hard thing to talk about, like the invisible elephant in the room. The next time he turns down sex maybe you could ask him gently if it's because of herpes. Telling him you understand might make him more comfortable to tell you in the furture.
BTW, don't you guys hate it when you're with someone and a Valtrex ad comes on TV? My boyfriend knows about my herpes and it makes me sooooo uncomfortable! Also, we were watching Last Comic Standing last night and "H" was mentioned twice in jokes. I was so embarassed. LOL
http://www.forgetherpes.com/faq_method.php#q24
This looks interesting.
Thanks guy! I appreciate all your comments. I am going to have him start looking at all this info. He is not really looking at anything and sort of believing what the dr. is telling him. If anyone does test negative PLEASE let me know. I don't want us to end up divorced because of intimacy issues!
Wow jb, you took the words right out of my mouth. I remember me and my boyfriend were on vacation, and watching a TV show in the morning, I swear about 10 commercials on Valtrex came up in a 15 minute period. And my boyfriend also knows about my herpes, but it still didn't make it any easier.
Yes, and the jokes on TV or comments made by friends. It is quite uncomfortable at times. But then I kinda flip it, before I enter into that depressing zone, and just say to myself I have found a group of wonderful friends on this hub, and one day we will all be cured and view herpes as a distant memory!!
Well hope everyone has a good weekend.
Take care
Hey Everyone
Hope you are all having a GREAT weekend!!
I have come across a WONDERFUL flyer and HAVE to share it with you guys. It outlines the Alkaline level in different foods. Ok it's a lot but I will give you some foods from each categories. If you want a cooy I will fax it to you on Monday. It's color coded but I will draw lines so you can differentiate between the levels. Sooo here goes.
Foods with a 10.0 Alkaline rating: Spinach, Broccoli, Artichokes, Brussel Sprouts, Cabbage, Celery, Cauliflower, Carrots, Potato Skins, Raw Spinach, Cucumbers, Collards, Sewweed, Onions, Asparagus, Lemon & Limes
9.0: Olive Oil, Herbal & Green teas, Lettuce, Celery, Zucchini, Sweet Potato, Peas, Sproyted Grains, Egg Plant, Alfalfa Sprouts, Green Beans, Beets & Greens, Blueberries, Pears, Mangoes, Papayas, Figs & Dates, Tangerines, Melons, Kiwi, and Grapes.
8.0 Apples, Almonds, Avocados, Tomatoes (YUCK), Fresh Corn, Mushrooms, Turnip, Olives, Soybeans, Bell Peppers, Radish, Rhubarb, Pineapple, Cherries, Millet, Wild Rice, Strawberries, Apricots, Cantelope, HoneyDew, Peaches, Oranges, Grapefruit, and Bananas.
A couple of foods that we should stay AWAY from: Coffee, Blackberries, Prunes, Black Tea, Pasta, Cream Cheese, Chocolate, Roasted Nuts, Equal, Sweet & Low, Pickles, Shellfish (AHH MAN!!!), Cheese (Impossible for me!!), Pork, Lamb, Beef, White Bread, Cranberries, Cigarretes, Goat cheese, and Soda.
Hope this is helpful. I'm going to go to Pathmark later and get some of the 10.0 and 9.0 foods.
MMS: I'm up to 11 drops. It 's MUCH more tolerable with cold water. I've been taking it with room temperature water prior to last night. Pray it's working.
jb, i hate that valtrex commercial..they recently changed it now..it used to be real bad for us by saying "you can still get herpes even without symptoms" YEA great...now they are saying "stayng on valtrex reduces the risk of spreading the virus" thank goodness at least now they dont make it sound so scarry...i really hat it when someone tells a joke about herpes...NOT FUNNY..
secondoutbreak, how much longer do you have to take the MMS and how many drops do you have to get up to?? Thanks for the PH info...very helpful!
I think we ALL hate that Valtrex commercial! I wish they would come up with a device that detects when your shedding.
I have to get up to 15 drops and maintain that for a couple of days. I'm having doubts about this MMS though cause they say you should get sick then reduce the dose then increase it but I haven't gotten sick. I haven't gotten diarhea or anything. I have been peeing a lot but that's it.
Urine ph: 6.0 Saliva ph: 7.5---Go figure!! I think the next thing I'll try will be the ph plan that Kim is on.
I have just read everyones comments and boy does it shed a light on things. I wanna go buy a bunch of things that every one has mentioned on here, but it is confusing what has worked and what hasnt worked. I live in Florida and Im going to call the number Kim provided. Where is the clinic located? Im so happy I can talk to others that are familar with the same issue. Boy has my life went to crap after the nasty news. Its even hard to say the word, I call it Uncle Henry. Thats how bad it makes me feel. So what should I go a buy to decrease outbreaks?
istherehope, The clinic is in Sarasota Florida just outside of bradenton on the West coast. Olive leaf seems to be a good thing to start with. it is cheap and seems to work. Don't worry one day Uncle Henry will be gone...completely gone...Please call the clinic they will explain everything to you..they are very nice there... I am past 3 weeks no outbreaks now...WOW..thats all I have to say... I used to get 5-12 outbreaks a month...so 3 weeks outbreak free is a WOW for me......
secondoutbreak, I am at 5 days on the PH plan and I am green,,,I want to stay on this for another couple of months. I think I am going to buy more of it so that I can take it for about 3 months ..until August and if NOTHING happens then I will that "the test" again..with fingers and toes crossed.....
hey kim i have a question as im sure all you have seen kevin truedua commercial about taking cammu and it could cure herpes. Whats your thoughts on that and has anyone really taken cammu on long term basis to make that judgement here?
On the subject of Valtrex commercials: I was also with my bf (who did NOT know)on vacation, about to "get frisky" when the one came on about still spreading it without symptoms. I almost DIED. Up to that point I had no idea it could be spread unless you were in a full blown outbreak- that's what my gyno originally told me, only open blisters were dangerous. HA!
On the subject of phototherapy: I have been researching my butt off, and here's what I've found regarding UVA (phototherapy) and herpes... It has been scientifically proven to inactivate the virus, but doesn't penetrate the skin. That's where the dye comes in- they discovered that certain dyes (perylene Bisimide is the only one named) actually transmit the uva energy through the skin. Here's the depressing part- apparently the inactive herpes can be reactivated. One way is UVB, I'm not sure what else. I'm guessing that's why some people will still get an outbreak after therapy- they somehow reactivate the virus. Now we just have to figure out how to not do that.... sigh. Hopefully the high pH will completely kill it- seems it would be easier to kill in an inactive state. Like shootin' frogs in a barrel, lol. I'm one week off of suppression therapy and PMSin pretty bad, but no sign of an OB, so that's good- now I'll get my pH up (only had one beer yesterday, and yes it was with LIME *wink*) and take out those annoying frogs for good!
I love the Uncle Henry idea- I'm the same way.... even when I was married and he knew and was ok with it, I couldn't say the H word.
Vaguy: Secondoutbreak is taking camucamu, but she just started, so we don't have a definitive answer on that one yet, however there has been research done on vitamin c and herpes, so we're thinking that my be the reason it is effective. The links to that research are on here somewhere, or you can just try googling vitamin c and herpes. I've actually never seen the commercial, but I did read about it in a natural cures book- it's not that expensive, I say try it!
Gonna hafta change my last comment- I'm looking for some camucamu juice and it's not that cheap, is it? Any tips on where to get it, and how to know if it's an effective concentration? Maybe I should just go with the powder... I can mix it in with my scrumptious morning cocktail of Apple Cider vinegar!
Hey mistake let me ask you this, how does the ph plan work and what kind of research has been done on that? I also red in this thread that some lady had a really good diet and took alot of herbs is that even true? has anyone came out with evidence of not having it anymore. Thanks a bunch
Istherehope: Welcome to the family. I hope you find the same comfort on this hub that many of us have. What type of Herpes do you have? How many outbreaks are you having? In general to decrease outbreaks you may want to begin by changing your diet. I posted some foods that are good for raising your ph (maintaining a ph of 7.5 for three weeks can kills the "plague" completely).
Vaguy: As 1Mistake2Many said I am taking camu camu juice but I haven't been on it a week yet.
IMistake2Many: My health food store listed it as $29.99 but it was on sale for $19.99!! Wooo hooooo! How much is it online? They had the powder too but I don't remember how much it was.
Kim: How much is the ph plan that your on? I think it's time for me to join you. I didn't test my urine today just didn't want the disappointment. It behooves me how I can wake up in the morning and my saliva tests at 7.0 or higher but my urine is 6.25. FRUSTRATING!!
Kim: What does the ph plan entail? Is it just taking pills or is it more involved?
Once again I ask those that make the claim that keeping your ph over 7.5 over 3 wks can kill the virus entirely...where exactly is the evidence to substantiate this? I honestly hate being the fly in the ointment but before making these claims it would be VERY helpful to just give a little evidence to substantiate any claim of a "cure". I agree that some of these methods may indeed help out with the symptoms to some degree but please state the evidence to back them up. There are literally hundreds of bogus claims on the net stating their product can eliminate obs and or cure herpes altogether. I'm just looking for ONE SINGLE substantiated claim of such.
Hi Kim,
I was just wondering what the PH Plan entails?? i believe you said on a post before you have to take a lot of tablets but do you also have to change your diet drastically?? Do you think its easier than the 3 week detox as i remember you saying that was quite tough inregards to the diet while on the detox??
Sorry for all the questions :-) Im thinking of trying the PH Plan or the 3 week detox but would like your advice? Thanks a lot!!!
Racquetman: No one on here is claiming to have found the "magical" cure for this plague. We have all researhed different claims and we're trying to find what works and what doesn't. There are claims that high ph levels kills the plague. Now do we have unequivocal evidence that this is true....no, but instead of popping valtrex everyday for the rest of our lives we're trying to do what ever we can to rid ourselves of this disease.
Hopeful: Do you know where Letrojet therapy is offered? Cost? Are you thinking about doing it?
Ph: urine and saliva were about 6.25 this morning. I made a fruit salad for lunch that I will have with a side salad. I'm currently snacking on carrots. Hopeful for a better reading later today.
Hi everyone! I have been reading this hub religiously for the past wk. and felt compelled to "introduce" myself.
I don't feel comfortable going into full details, just yet, but basically, my story is somewhat different as I seem to be the only person in my life who believes I contracted the herpes virus. No one agrees with me, including Drs., nurses, my boyfriend, family, friends, not even the blood test I had 14 mos. ago. I wish it were so easy for me not to believe, too.
I have been struggling for the past 2 yrs. with just not feeling well. I've been tested for all the other STD's, as well, some twice, and all came back negative. Regardless if I am negative or not, though, I can truly feel your pain. The fear alone of being contagious drives me mad.
If my attitude most resembles anyone's here, it would be that of Raquetman. Everyone tells me to be positive, that I don't have anything, and they call me negative. I see things differently, though. I may be a dreamer in my own way, but I see myself as realistic. Just because I try to convince myself of something, doesn't make it true.
I've read enough about herpes lately to know there are too many contradictory articles out there, enough to confuse anyone. Probably the most disheartening thing I have read stated that herpes is not a living organism therefore, it cannot be killed. It can only be activated and deactivated, which still sounds frightening to me.
I felt hopeful about the alkaline theory, but still had my doubts about things so, I researched more and came across this : http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/
Hi Secondoutbreak,
The Lectroject machine is about $289 and the Company is from South Africa, you order it online. I am thinking of doing it but check out the website and let me know your thoughts everyone: It could be a scam????
The website is - http://www.herpes-device-that-works.com/index.html
Sorry i posted twice!!!
Fallen Angel: Welcome. I am a little confused to your situation. I understand that you do not want to go into detail but I would be interested in knowing, when you feel more comfortable, why you feel you have Herpes if the tests are saying that you don't. I looked at the link you sent and it SEEMS (just my interpretation) that he is correct. Your cells cannot live in a totally Alkaline body but we're not striving for a ph of 10 rather 7.5 which has been stated will kill the virus. To my knowledge no one on this hub is a Dr so we may not know the full ramifications of ph in the body but having a ph of 7.5 is a lot better for us, in general. Maybe all this ph stuff is for nought but many of us are not comfortable simply accepting this disease. As previously stated we are all searching for a cure and the majority of us feel that one is attainable. Maybe not via ph but a cure is out there. What are you taking?
Hopefull: Not to sure about it. Something just seems off but since I'm off I may not be the best person to discuss this with, lol. I tried searching their blog but it didn't have a stream of conversations as we do which is a little concerning. WHat they purpose seems logical so I don't want to discourage you, this may be what we have all been waiting for!!
fallen angel, I know that the oxggen theory does not increase your BLOOD PH. your blood ph is very sensitive and must maintain a strict PH. Its your urine and saliva PH that changes. and it does work. I have been on the PH Plan and my PH levels are raised from this program. I feel more energized and my skin is very clear...my hair is also softer...Every theory has its critic. The world is flat, we came from monkey's ......not all cures were found in a science lab...something is working for me...first time in a very very long time going on 4 weeks outbreak free....how do you explain that??? It can't possibly be my PH levels or the phototherapy right??...also keep in mind the phoththerapy is a clinical study...once they prove their theory and make it available to the public. which they plan on doing in the very near future. .will you try it???
VAguy22, CAMU CAMU is very highly consentrated in VIt C. There may be some truth to its benefits. If i get more outbreaks I just may try that. Or the VIT C powder and DMSO. Anyway to get the VIT C in your body and lots of it... As far as the PH Plan. I have not had any outbreaks since my PH has been raised. I have been on the PH Plan just over a week now. I had also tried teh full body detox and the anti-viral detox, both detoxes did nothing for me but so far I am outbreak free for almost a month now.. I was drinking the alkaline water that came with the PH Plan for about 3 weeks and a week ago have just started the PH Plan. It involves eating only fresh fruit and veggies ONLY and only drinking alkaline water and taking about 60-70 capsules a day chaulk full of herbs and things to raise your PH ....so far no more outbreaks. I have also done the phototherapy in Sarasota Florida, that may also be a reason for no outbreaks. Or a combination of the two (phpototherapy and raising my PH). I was getting outbreaks 5-12 a month and have had herpes type 2 over 23 years..and this Friday will be a whole month without any outbreaks. If I continue to be outbreak free through August, I will get retested and when I am negative...I will be proof...I have not tested for the virus again since my first treatment with Dr. Stoneburner with phototherapy.I will test again in August.
1mistake2many, my PH level is up pretty good now ..still working on getting the saliva over 7.0..but hey its beter then the 5.5 I was getting...at least teh lime offset the acid....lol its like getting a big mac and a diet coke....about the CAMU CAMU how about your vitamin store??? do they have it ? or is that where it was expensive...
OZ, its just like the detox but more capsules to take. Only eat fresh fruit and vvegies nothing cooked. and only drink oxygenated water..the detox did not raise my PH like the PH Plan did...I still had outbreaks while on the detox but so far nothing on the PH Plan...Same thing though drink oxygenated water and take lots of herbs and minerals and things...about 60-70 capsules a day..but for ME this DID raise my PH level...I will purchase more to stay on it longer to see what happens...so far so good.
secondoutbreak, thak you for your post to racquetman...you are so right. we allhere also know what works for one may not work for another. I think this PH Plan may benefit your PH levels.......
secondoutbreak, if you look up about 4 days ago i gave the link to where I purchased the PH Plan $148.00. I don't want to click on it because I will lose all my typing and have to repost....
racquetman, look on neveranoutbreak.com...they have a good site on PH level and herpes virus...lots of information. Here is my question to you. Do you think ANYONE ANYWHERE has been cured from herpes EVER???
hopeful, If I get an outbreak I will try the CAMU CAMU and VIT C , if that doesnt work I will try the Letroject. I have read posts where people have tried and it worked and people have tried and it did not work. for those who it did not work they did get their money back...so at least thats good
secondoutbreak, I love your post to fallenangel, you are so right here is a hug from me (huggs)
The Lectroject sounds intetesting. I would try it if I knew for sure the money back guarantee would be honored. How can they include the acyclovir cream? It's a Rx. Kinda fishy...
fallen angel. sorry I ment to say. against your link posted by Dr Girkin...on the PH being nonsense..http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2006/11/acida actually I found more links that support the theory then debunk it.....I'm sticking with it....
Kim my whole pt is that there are literally 1000's of claims of people being cured but to my knowledge there is yet to be ONE verifiable substantiated case where somebody underwent a type of treatment and then tested negative for the herpes virus. There may be some promising vaccines out there that can offer a cure in the forseeable future but as of now there is not. Some people no longer get outbreaks. Some have one ob and never get another one. Some don't have obs for decades then they get one. Everybodies case is different. This phototherapy sounds promising by your comments. I have said I believe you are getting positive results and of course that is better than nothing. I'll tell you what...if you test negative sometime in the near future, I will pay for your treatment. That is no lie. I'd be more than happy to. I just want something that can be verified. I wish you all the best in your endeavor to find a cure. I'm not hopeless or without faith, but I certainly have my doubts. So currently I feel herpes is treatable through modern meds. As far as homeapathy treatments...I think the vast majority are purely entrepreneurs taking advantage of vulnerable people.
Wow, I had so much I wanted to say, and now that I get a chance to sit down at the computer, I can't remember it! Must be the lack of caffeine and alcohol, lol.
As for the pH theory- I work in the medical field and have been discreetly asking questions... Dr Girkin is correct about your BLOOD pH- it's the same as your core body temp, slight fluctuation= death. However, a friend who works in a lab studying viruses and bacteria (including Uncle Henry) said it is absolutely true that they cannot exist in an alkaline environment. Now I just have to find someone to ask if it's possible to change the alkalinity of your body tissue, but to me it seems logical- you are what you eat and all that, right?
Fallen Angel- a virus, including the herpes virus, is a living organism. We have terms like 'virucidal' because they can be killed. I would encourage you to try the pH diet if you are feeling bad all the time it should help, regardless of the cause. Also things like meditation and yoga if it's something you can do would probably go a long way toward making you feel better at least. Welcome to the hub, glad you're here, but sorry about the circumstances that brought you here.
Racquetman: I totally agree that most of the claims for a cure are bogus and it infuriates me that people would take advantage of our anguish and desperation. However, they are usually based on some sort of theory, and it's through testing that theories are proved or disproved. The great thing about this hub is that we can all test different things and report back. Of course most treatments will fail, but it is for the chance of finding the one that won't that we continue to try. Without the hope of someday beating the scourge we could easily sink into a pit of despair and become bitter lonely old people, and suppose one of the treatments is one day proven effective- we would have wasted all that time feeling sorry for ourselves when we could have been living happy and free if only we'd made the effort to try. So, yes, we know we are setting ourselves up for failure, but to us it is worth the chance. I understand you want verification- we all do. Cross your fingers with us that we will soon have it! =)
here's something interesting I found....
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcg
also the camu online is confusing- powder, pills or juice blends?!?! I'm so lost! dr James Duke, whom I highly respect and who is well respected in the medical field as an expert on the pharmaceutical properties of plants, has affiliated himself with Amazon Herbs and their dehydrated camu packets. 30 packets are $55.00, but I have no idea how much camu camu is in each one. Vitacost has a juice blend that is 32 oz for $11.29, but again- how much is a serving? They say one oz, but that's only 300 mg of vitamin C, so I'm thinking we'd take more. Ok, I'm beat and the little one is wanting some attention... gonna go before he looks over my shoulder and asks who Uncle Henry is ;-)
I have just spent the last six hours throwing up. I LITERALLY was throwing up while driving. Pulled over threw up some more then began driving again when that watery mouth feeling came back. Thank God I had a plastic bag in my car and while driving, mind you, was puking my brains out. So you may ask why are you sharing this with us. Because you're my family and I need some sympathy. No of course that's not it. Let me recap my last two days, briefly of course. I made a fruit salad last night which consists of pineapple, apples, bluberries, melon, and grapes. It was actually pretty tasty with the exception of the blueberries. Now a little about me, I have a "bad" stomach and there are a host of things that cause me to have severe stomach pains. After eating my fruit salad last night I experienced some pain but thought it could be attributed to my dinner and not the salad. This morning I had some more and my stomach began hurting so badly that I didn't eat lunch. Before I left work I took my MMS (16 drops) and after I drank it I was VERY NAUSEA. Hence my lovely ride home. They say that you are supposed to experience the nausea and vommitting while taking MMS but SIX HOURS!! I'm going to take a break from meds tonight and tomorrow. I'm scared to take the MMS because I can't do this again. I promised my son to play video games with him and I could barely move. If this is what has to happen for me to be cured then I am willing to do it but I think I have been doing too much too fast. Kindly say a prayer for me as I continue to pray for you as well.
1Mistake2Many: Too weak to go to the kitchen and look at my bottle of camu camu but I will in the morning and let you know how many ounces the one I have is.
Hey all, new to to hub, as i am new to herps. i contracted "whitlow" a few months back from touching my gf, even tho there were no signs at the time., she must have been shedding. there isnt much info out there about it, and i coem to you guys and girls for help. i was woundering if any1 knew if it could travel to my genitals vail my body, like without contact. i know hand herps doesnt seem as bad as genital but its still bad because i have to be so carful who i touch, ie cant touch a baby in the slight chance i might be shedding etc. i came across this web site http://www.herpes-device-that-works.com/lectroject and i was wounderign if any1 has tried it, or what there opions are on it. thanks for your time. if we stick together positivly we wont be beaten by herps. kls
secondoutbreak: I'm so sorry! That sucks, but is it supposed to happen on the mms? I remember you saying you upped the dose til you got sick then dropped down (I think you said that), so is that what was meant by getting sick? I hope you feel better soon, I'm praying for ya!
vaguy: I forgot to answer your question about the pH plan... it's based on the theory that our bodys are actually designed to be alkaline, but because of our typical diet and stressful way of living, they become acidic. That's a topic of debate, but what isn't debated is the fact that viruses cannot live in an alkaline environment. SOOOO if it is possible to raise your body's pH from acidic to alkaline (7.5 or higher), then theoretically any viruses in it would die. the main way people on the hub are trying to raise our pH is diet- eating fruit and vegetables 'til we choke' and drinking oxygenated water. I haven't started the water yet, but I'm drinking organic apple cider vinegar every morning and eating apples, oranges and pineapple all freakin' day. I'm gonna hafta do the water though, because my pH is only up to 6.5 with the fruit and veggie overload. Kim and secondoutbreak know way more about it than I do- I'm just copying off of them ;-) If you want to try it, just order some pH strips online, then test your pH in the morning before you eat. Then stuff your face with fruit, veggies and oxygen water until it tests consistently at 7.5 or higher. I can't remember how long you're supposed to keep it there for the virucidal benefit... 3 days maybe? Good luck!
racquetman, just stick on this hub we will test negative. we are not waiting for the science of it...Its good to have you aboard with us. just staying on the hub tells me you think there is hope and thats great...I hope one of us will test negative soon so that others can join the negative train..and you too... : 0 )
1mistake2many, yes that is true about NOT being able to raise your blood PH. I believe the PH Plan and dherbs actually mention that on their sites as well. I agree with you. 100%. I'm thinking since your body is made up of such a high percent of water and you drink alkaline water for months...I'm hoping the tissue will get the message...Thank you for sharing that information about your friend. I am still outbreak free and will continue my alkaline diet and regime until I see it is not working. Thank You again. I also believe you are what you eat. wait let me check my skin...Oh no I think I'm turning green! lol I love your post thank you you are so so right! holy moly I've got to start researching that CAMU CAMU with you maybe together we can figure something out with that..wowo how confusing...I'll check tonight see what I find....
secondoutbreak, hey you're finally sick...thank you for sharing...thats what you were waitinig for..humm funny you were waiting to get sick...but thats a good thing right? I will pray for you....I do feel bad that you have to go through being sick to get rid of Uncle Henry. I wish I could help you with your son. If I lived near you I would have come over and played with your son so you can rest.
kls, You have herpes of the hand?? does it come constantly in one spot or several places on your hand?? herpes cannot travel without contact. You can spread it from place by touching but I have only heard of ONE case where the virus attacked a ladys body and she had it everywhere and died within days of contacting it. but I have never heard of herpes travel through your body and have outbreaks in other places unless it is spread...we were talking about lectrojet here on the hub...I am under phototherapy treatment and PH Plan but if I get outbreaks I will try other methods and lectrojet is an option I would try...
1mistake2many..OMGoodness...I am laughing out loud over here with your last post stuff your face with fruit veggies and oxygen water...heck I'm still laughing...because thats what I do..I eat all day long.....I'm 5 7" and weigh 102 pounds.....I know thats thin but this diet keeps me there. I eat all day..fruit veggies all fresh and natural...so you're right I "stuff my face"
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I've been so bummed all day. I was listening to the radio this morning and the DJ's read a letter from a listener. Her "pro
jb says:
4 weeks ago
A great thing to try to raise Ph is grapefruit seed extract. It is great for many things. Add 5 -15 drops to water a 1-3 times a day. It also is great topically. It can deactivate the virus in 10 minutes. Goggle GSE and Ph and GSE and herpes.
Also, I haven't seen anyone mention Wild Oregano Oil. I take it interally and use it topically. Internally it acts as a very strong antiviral and and natural antibiotic and extrnally you can put it on your sores and at the neck ganglia.
Also, someone mentioned stevia. It is a good alternative sweetener but it also has antiviral properties. There is a stevia which has FOS added, which helps to balance intestinal flora.
Heres a gquestion - When you get a cold sore, do you think it's better to let it dry out and forma scab or try to keep it moist so it doesn't scab over? What's the best way to speed healing of the scab?