Hillary or Obama-- What's a Girl to Do?
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A Democrat's Lament
This is my last political rant before Super-Tuesday. I’ll be voting in the Democratic Primary in my state but for whom? I still don’t know. I probably won’t know until I am standing in the voting booth with the curtain closed. Will it be Hill and Bill, the dynamic duo of the nineties? Or will I cast my vote for the silver-tongued Obama, charismatic multi-cultural icon of the 21st century? It’s like handicapping a horse race. Do I vote for the favorite or take a chance on the long shot—who if he comes in, will pay off at twenty to one?.
Some of My Thoughts
Until a month or so ago I thought Hillary was the one. I’m her demographic, after all. She’s done well as a Senator from New York and proved herself to be an astute politician and a can-do legislator. She’s got the powerful connections, the broad based experience, and the mega money to win. Plus she’s logical, practical and has specific ideas about what to do. She’s a problem-solver. Plus, I said to myself, the icing on the cake is that with Hillary we get a two for one deal. Bill will be there too and between them maybe they can begin to repair the damage done by the current gang of thugs and thieves. So, maybe the Clintons are a bit on the slippery side—but they are after all politicians and sometimes it takes a thief to catch a thief.. I was all set to settle for Hillary and take Bill as a bonus.
When Obama declared, I didn’t pay too much attention. I remembered him from his 2004 Democratic convention speech and found him impressive. But, I thought— he’s too young—too untested. He only has three years in national politics. Let’s see how he develops. It’s not his time yet.
The early primaries and the televised debates have changed my thinking,. Barack was breathtaking in the debates and on the stump. While Hillary and Edwards talked about what they would do—Obama invited us all to participate in putting America back on track. He said we would do it together. He spoke clearly and concisely to the issues, revealing a mind both brilliant and passionate. Like so many others, I made the Kennedy comparison and I began to think—maybe, maybe, this is his time after all.
Then Bill had his little hissy fit in New Hampshire—and in a blinding flash I saw the potential downside of the two for one deal. I remembered some of the less savory moments of the Clinton years—no, not Monica. That was stupid but not dangerous. I was thinking more of the rental of the Lincoln bedroom in the White House to campaign contributors, the pardons of the deep-pocketed sleeze-bags, and the long, tasteless good-by on Bush’s inauguration day. Was Bill seeing this as a third term for himself? Could Hillary control his ego once in office?. Suddenly, I wasn’t so sure about the buy one get one free Clinton package.
Here Comes the Cliffhanger
Now I’m really listening to the Obama message. On the issues, he and Hillary aren’t so far apart. Either would make an acceptable President . But in style and philosophy, Obama has set the tone. He speaks so convincingly about honesty and transparency, about bringing people together. He’s issued a clarion call for change that is being heard around the world. Should I take a chance and believe that he can do it? I don’t know. I’ll figure it out on Tuesday. The economy ,the war, the world looks bad. Obama looks good, but at twenty to one, he’s still a long shot.
Hubber Views on Hillary&Obama
Post Super Tues. Update-2/22/08
No Longer A Long Shot
At the moment Obama is the odd's on favorite and Hillary is hanging on by her teeth. In just a few weeks his popularity has reached messianic proportions What's next? I wouldn't count Hillary out just yet and in any case we haven't seen the last of her. I suspect deals are being made in back rooms even as I write that will make for an interesting Democratic convention this summer and Primary season isn't over yet. It'sonly February-- on to Texas and Pennsylvania.
Post Pennsylvania Update - 4/25/08
Here we are in April and we were told that Pennsylvia would tell the tale. It hasn't. The run up to the Pennsylvania primary has only served to harden the battle lines and for my money, some of the stuff that went on was downright silly. The media jumped all over Hillary for saying that she arrived in Bosnia under sniper fire. Hillary jumped all over Barrack for saying that working people were bitter and turning to religion and guns and the viral video posted annonymously on Youtube featuring Obama's pastor set off a firestorm resulting in Obama's seminal speech on race in America.. My favorite sound bite was Hillary, the Wellesley girl and Yale Law School grad accusing Obama, the bi-racial scholarship kid of being elitist as she downed beers and shots in a down and dirty bar in Scranton. Gotta hand it to her though--by the end of it she looked like the tough come-back kid and he looked kinda whipped. His rock star image is starting to fray around the edges.
So now here we go again-- on to Indiana and North Carolina. This is like a baseball game that has gone too many innings. By now the American economy is clearly tanking. Food prices are on the rise and gas prices have doubled. People have a pain in their pocketbooks,so the war is less of an issue and the economy is more of one. For the moment "it's the econiomy stupid" and both candidates are strutting their stuff.
I can only hope that as we move on to Indiana and North Carolina the logjam will break one way or the other. It is ironic that we Democrats have not one, but two, really good, qualified candidates and we may still shoot ourselves in the foot and end up with President McCain.
The End - 6/7/08
And now it is over. Hillary went from front-runner to also ran and just gave a graceful speech in which she endorsed Obama and suspended her campaign. Some people are disappointed and others triumphant but we have a candidate now--in my view an excellent one. Now that this heated battle between two well-qualified candidates is over, it's time to unify the party, roll up our sleeves and get ready to greet President Obama next January.
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Comments
Thanks pg--still don't know who I'll vote for but glad to have two such excellent choices(for a changeLOL)
I think you are experiencing what a lot of America seems to be experiencing at this moment. I am a Hillary supporter because I am extremely concerned about the state of our nation and I strongly believe that she can do the work needed to turn it around. I think Barack is inspirational, but not ready, and I am very concerned about his chances of winning against the Republicans. We just don't know what we don't know about him. And with the media lovefest surrounding him at the moment, I'm afraid we probably won't know until he is the candidate. I just want to see my country respected again. For what it's worth, the Clintons are respected worldwide (the "scandals" of his presidency largely inconsequential to the rest of the world - esp. in comparison to the Bush-type scandals). I would be a very proud American to have Hillary as our President - a strong, capable, intelligent and respected woman leader - now that, to me, is inspirational.
robie, I'm sorry to hear that you never gave Gravel a thought. In my opinion he was heads and tails the best candidate with a track record of making things happen and it's a shame how the media ignored him.
Thanks Layne and Phantom for the comments. I think we have to keep our eye on November. -- we all agree that we are in big trouble--it's just that Dems and Reps have deep seated differences on how to fix things. I want a Democrat in the White House next January and as interesting as Gravel might be, he can't win--it really boils down now to Hillary or Obama. Who can deliver against John McCain or Mitt Romney or possibly(but not probably) MIke Huckabee? In one sense I feel like we are lucky to have not one but two excellent candidates--but in another sense it makes it harder to choose who to vote for in the primary. Ahhhh well, on to Super Tuesday:-)
If you like the easy white lady, there is no choice?
if you like black gentlemen even at 20 to one,
that sounds good
I think I am going black. It will not matter to me in Australia.
So I did not solve your dilemma.
Tuesday will run out of time soon enough
Great hub
Hi Mr.M--always good to hear from you--guess my dilemma will be solved after I vote tomorrow eh?
Great hub. I think both are terrific, but ended up voting (absentee ballot) for Obama, while my partner voted for Clinton. Both of us understand each other's reasoning and it was a difficult decision for both of us. But we'd both be happy with either one in the White House. Hillary and Barack are both very intelligent and have shown the depth of judgment and mettle needed to run this country.
Hi livelonger(love yr.name) and thanks-- We do have an embarrassment of riches in these two candidates don't we? Maybe I'll end up tossing a coin in the voting booth LOL.
I still think Obama is too inexperienced and I think it is a long shot because I think running him gives the bigots a chance to shoot dems down and subject us to at least 4 more years of domestic economic devastation. the price is too high to mess up.
but I think everyone should vote their beliefs.
I'll be voting tomorrow, and I was going to vote for John Edwards. But now I have to go back and rethink the whole thing. Rats.
yeah, I liked Edwards too. :(
well here'san update-- I voted this morning. I'm not gonna tell you who I finally pulled the lever for, but the nice old ladies who mind the polls told me that turnout was amazingly heavy and that "the young people" were coming out in droves. Whoever wins, I am thrilled to see the next generation involved in the political process.
My gut feeling from walking around town is that Hillary carried my town and I think she probably will end up carrying the state of New Jersey as well, but it's going to be close. Super Tuesday is not going to settle anything. It's still a horse race.
I think Billary has won the day.
maybe America can not settle on Black
Hi Mr. M-- I don't think it's about race--or gender. I think its about voting for experience rather than hope. People are scared, fed up and not feeling optimistic so they aren't taking a chance on someone new--but it isn't over yet. The Obama phenomenon is gathering steam. He is quite amazing. Like I said. This is still a horse race.
it does make for an interesting watch.
It think it's ironic, after a discussion like this one, that Obama & Hillary are still neck-and-neck after "Tsunami Tuesday"!
I think it's kind of exciting to watch--lots can happen between now and the convention. Now all we have to do is figure out which one can beat John McCain and hope that one gets the nomination:-) And I'm still waiting for the Bloomberg shoe to drop.
and I'm still watching you wait. heehee
<waiting,waiting,waiting>
I think if they combine either way, they can beat Mr. John McCain.
Who ever gets the nomination takes the other power along.
I would like that too, Rabi, but for a variety of reasons I don't think it will happen--but I'll be happy with either one of them. I want a Democrat in the White HOuse,
And I thought it would never make it to me here in Pennsylvania...oh well, I have until Tuesday if I haven't already decided.
I like that buy-one-get-two-for-free.the clinton team did leave us a 3 trillion dollar surplus.
They did indeed--but I'm wondering if Bill would be such a big asset this time around--hmmm time for another update on this hub, methinks:-)
Don't hold your breath on that one, vrajavala:-) Think I'll update after the convention. Obama will still be the nominee then and Hillary will have a major role in his administration if he gets elected. Wait and see:-)












pgrundy says:
8 months ago
Great hub, robie2. I know what you mean about the difficulty of the choice. I was almost in the Billary camp for awhile, but I think Obama is what the country needs right now. I think he can win, too. I hope so.