When do we begin to start making a living from the Internet?

Even the most enthusiastic and clever beginner finds the jargon difficult and the many marketing offers confusing. For these reasons alone it is hard for the new Internet marketer and if you are making money online as a beginner you are probably the first to do so!

Absolute beginners are not newbies.

What is the difference between Beginners and newbies? Beginners do not yet know much about affiliate marketing, PPC, CTR, PPA, SEO or the jargon. The importance of fine tuned analysis , or what it really means to work an online business that makes money is still way ahead in their learning.

Newbies already have some basic skills.They know enough about keywords, ad campaigns and landing pages to lose money and get fooled by Internet marketing gurus in to making money for them!

Some big Internet Gurus considered newbies know just enough to fall for their ploys and therefore should be called "sitting ducks," not Newbies!

Newbies spend a lot of money on useless old information that is readily available free, and appeal to those looking for a short-cut

Newbies and Gurus.

Newbies may have a month or three years of experience.The main thing is they have not learnt how to make good money online yet, only how to spend it wastefully on dud info. This group are about 97% of would be marketers and beginners and feed a huge industry of quarter-truths. I would have said half-truths but that would not have been truthful either! If you get a quarter of what was promised that would be a good result in most cases.

Most marketers in the Internet marketing niche have no desire to give you a hand up. They just want your email address to spam you with all sorts of over-hyped so called products.

Big Spenders.

This newbie group buy so much product it keeps a few people very rich. These are the people who make bigger or more outrageous claims for their knowledge to continue to suck newbies in.

The time it takes to make money is not related to money spent, it's all about what you know about yourself first and then marketing something you can succeed with.

If you buy in to any marketing tools or pay for information online it must be tightly specific to your needs and chosen market.

When you know how to make money online you can do it at will, but it still takes some time to learn all you need to know about protecting your markets.

There are so many different types of online businesses. No matter which ideas you have for making money, when you start to monetise or make money from your site, blog, hub, affiliate sites or any other online activity it may all work well until you start to make real money.

Newbies are seen by marketers very differently to beginners.

The term "newbie" is reserved by Internet marketers for people they see as fair game to market all their useless crap to, and have usually seen quite a lot of information on SEO, PPC, server side configurations and may even be able to use html and write and install quality scripts etc.In other words they still know little about marketing, but enough to appeal to.

For the most part pro marketers already know that newbies can't earn a living on line.

Spending time and money on expensive keyword tricks and SEO ebooks does nothing to help either.

Newbies still need to write a killer sales letter and build tightly focused landing pages for each keyword and group.

Being able to build keyword lists then group keywords so that they get quality hits is a bit harder than many think.

This part of the learning takes the newbie more time and money than they thought as beginners and it is often a long time before they become a noob.

Each one of these categories may have a different idea of what will work for them to make online money.

While during each stage of development the Guru types make a killing

This is how we are seen by professional marketers. Beginner? Sell them this crap. Newbie? sell them this other crap.noob? sell them more expensive crap.

You may already understand building websites, hubs or blogs.

You may even have the basics of shopping cart management, auto-responder setups, volume hosting costs and are talented at SEO and PPC.

I have a question for you....are you making money yet?.

You can make money on line, but it is hard as hell to get started before getting a few basics absolutely right.

First let's have a bit of harsh reality.

Anyone can make a lot of money online right? You just have to know the marketing tricks right?

Sort of.

Once you understand the steep learning curve it takes to get good at the money making side of things, you begin to realize that this will take a while longer than you thought and even longer for some who are slow at this particular type of learning.

Being a slow learner just means it will take more time it does not mean it is beyond you.

If you learn fast and have quick success remember to learn all the pitfalls real quick too or you will just as quickly go broke.

Too many sites make great money for a while, sometimes long enough to have paid for all your online expenses or even enough to buy a new car out of the extra income.

Trouble is keeping it.

Many online businesses in certain markets are king for a while then poof! Gone.

Reason? There are a lot of reasons, some are related just to marketing mistakes, but many are not.... very many are not.

this is where the difference between the average marketer and the professional successful and long term marketer comes in.

You will learn these lessons about the business of Internet marketing eventually, in a couple of different ways. Do not expect that this is in any way easy in any market. It is not.

How fast you learn and how much it costs to learn depends to a large degree on luck and your own talent.Here is some of the stuff you do need to know to have any chance at all.

1. There is too much information to choose from, therefore it takes some uncommon sense to work out.
2. You need a filtering system to ensure that the information you are considering does not have the vital bits missing.
3. The information or product you buy needs to suit what you are doing to monetize your particular niche market or marketing system.
4. The "Gurus who sell you their get rich now stuff will imply or say that it will work for all marketers and this is simply not true.
5. to put it another way, it may work for them if they already have a huge list of customers and many affiliate marketers selling for them.Unless you have all that you will earn nothing new from their claims of what income you will make, as that will be entirely up to your ability, not the guru's.
6. It is like saying you can race cars because you know what a car is.
7. if you were earning 10k or 20k a week easily out of an online business, would you go and give that information away, or even sell it? I would not.

• You would not even mention it online at all if it was so bloomin easy would you?

• If you had a real and easy way to make money would you go blab about it all over the net?
• Human nature dictates that you would not say a word about it.You would keep it in the family and only tell your closest and poorest friends, not give it to some total stranger out of love and kindness. Not that people are unkind, but we all have to survive right? Well these lovely people are not as kind as they project.
• To duplicate any system will take money.

You Have to pay for any real advice, and you have to learn it from more than one source as well as trial and error. The information you get from hub-pages is never about how to get rich quick. It is people trying to help who are genuine about it and do not worry about competition from you, as we are all small in the sense that it is never about how to retire tomorrow afternoon!

You can succeed on your own.

It took one friend 2 full years of very hard work to pull in 6k a week gross. The net profit is still lousy as it costs heaps to run this business, but it does gross more almost every week, but the costs go up proportionally too.

This is the one model I have looked at in complete detail from the inside that I know works.

The money making model looks like this.

• Write a good ebook in a broad market

• Then choose a name for the website carefully matched to a niche in the market your was in.

• Sign up for google AdWords.

1. Designed a single squeeze or sign-up page with nothing on it but your add for a free newsletter and a place to sign in to receive free tips.
2. Gave a lot of top quality free tips by email with a link to your sales page for a series of more free tips.

(AdWords campaigns are a pain. be very careful and understand what Google rewards and punishes before you start with AdWords or you could lose your house in a few weeks.) Look here for the latest marketing software.

This business was built with leads from a single squeeze page with no links on it just a sign up form offering the free tips with a link to the sales page.

From working the stats from your AdWords campaigns and carefully adjusting keywords and groups it will grown slowly.

The AdWords campaigns have not had much work done other than to be careful not to get bitten by the google machine it has been simple to run.

AdWords is the only source of advertising being used to promote the site and although it costs a bucket it works very well after a lot of misfires.

You will not learn about AdWords from anyone better than Google. The Google AdWords site will teach you a lot if you read and understand all of it.

Personally I wish I had started at hub-pages earlier as my hurdle is to learn how to write.

Testing is the biggest hurdle in marketing.You need to split test everything you do. Never make a change to a page without testing it first. You have your view of what will work. Your market does not give a rat's what you believe or like.

Another friend purchases one of those Guru packages and followed it.

It worked and this is where the luck part comes in as it is very unusual to make money learning mainly from one source even if you can find an honest one..

He had me to help, but this was a while back now, and I knew much less than I do now.

Anyone who knows me will tell you I hate all that guru stuff, but some of it works for some types of marketing.

I would not dare to suggest any one Guru because needs are different depending on how you are making money from the net.

These hub-pages do so much of the early learning work of understanding earning, showing stats, allowing links and steering beginners by showing the scoring system which helps with your writing.

A couple of truisms:

• Without back links most websites are pretty lonely places.
• The experts say you need high quality links, and nothing but ... to last on the Internet.

Until you have a fair bit of momentum good back links are a bit thin on the ground and the important engines like back links a lot.

• Pick your back-links carefully to get a good result from google

• Get permission to send emails by using double opt in,so that you have some chance of your email arriving and being seen

• Basic good and honest processes will work best with all the search engines long term, but at this time the snake oil salesmen still have too much of the floor.

Ranting squeeze pages

I have seen hundreds of ranting squeeze pages out there on the net, and many affiliate sites offers that promise the moon.

Some of them get punished for their poorly worded keyword stuffed content pages, but stuffed works great, when you learn how to do it well evidently, so I think I'll be happier when that changes. Go slow and grow.

I have learnt that some of the big risk taking marketers spend more than they make on AdWords campaigns quite often, so it is not low risk to be a cowboy either.

Some of the whales of this industry spend hundreds of thousands a month on AdWords and other ppc. (pay per click) advertising, and no, that is not a misprint.

The risks are very high for these "cowboy gurus" but they make big money when it works.

Stay away from markets that are owned by big corporates as there is no way to compete with them. They will simply outspend you.

Dirty tricks.

You will see "look at me/my affiliates earnings showing you can make 10,000 a week usually followed by pics of cheques from Google or elsewhere. These huge earnings may well be true and often are, but bear no relationship to your earning potential, as you do not already have a million subscribers and thousands of people like you earning money for you.

"Just follow what I did to make what I make" is rat droppings! They forget to tell you what they spent on advertising and online monthly memberships and a hundred other things.They also "forget" to tell you that it took them 10 years to do it and put their house on the line half a dozen times.

They also "forget" to tell you they have built hundreds or even thousands of web sites and a squeeze page for every keyword they have. Most have thousands of keywords.

The good news.

The good news is that with enough smarts and enough time and effort you can earn a living online. Oh and even when you have some success, online business is like any other business in as much as you must not have just one source of income or you will eventually fall over due to market change.

I never listen to people who tell me they got rich online because:

1. Why tell me? So I can take some of it off you?
2. If I become your affiliate when you have thousands of them already, what chance have I got?
3. I know you will lie by omission by leaving out the real cost of sales.
4. I do not believe in the tooth fairy either.

The truth is that although you or I can make money online, nobody hands it out like gifts from the gods.

Learn then look again is my moto.

If I do think an offer sound reasonable. I type their name or the name of their product or service in to Google followed by a word like scam, scammer, hype, crook , shonky, liar, rip off or any others you can think of.

On at least the first page you will find them and their affiliates using the same word in their adds to trick you in to thinking you have found something negative. These links will take you to yet another site pimping their products, services etc.

Dig deeper, go to page 10 or so. In many cases you will find some poor bugger who has been ripped off by them.

Honest people.

Honest people have to sell online too, it is just that hype works or these crooks would not use it. This forces others who would like to advertise honestly on to the back foot.

I would settle for a product or service add that told me I can make a little money if I work, and a bit more if I work hard, and a fair income if I keep doing it for a year or two, but then I am Australian and we do not hype as much as our American counter parts.

So how would you sell that to an American who is used to being told that if they buy this or that product it will make them a millionaire in a day and do the dishes!

So you still have to look at the sales or squeeze page and scrape the bull-dust off to see the offer in most cases anyway.

Americans marketers seem to have very coca cola view of the truth and believe you have to promise instant wealth even to get a response because in truth they are not aiming it at the world.

They are aiming it at the worlds biggest consumers. Americans. For many American marketers, the world market is America.

They are often megalomaniacs as well.

This does not seem to be as obvious to them as it is to the rest of the us.

Despite the fact that I know lots of great Americans and have a lot of friends over there, marketers seem to be a different breed in the main.(There are exceptions of course and I know some really good ones, but it takes a lot of time to find them amongst the wide-boys and low-lifer's.

Many I have spoken to are as ignorant as goat shit as well as being rude and obnoxious. it is common for them to have never heard of Australia where I live and think it is near Holland or think I must have said Austria. In truth Australia has a higher computer use per capita than America and are a major online market that is world aware and well educated...... especially when it comes to the Internet!

When you get started the miracle of commerce reveals itself.

You will have your contents ripped off by the big dogs for starters.

A tip from Eric a fellow hubber will help you find out who ripped off or "scraped" your contents.

1. Find an obscure reference or unusual sentence in your own article then type it in to your google search page like this: "..................................." Google will look for all he words you type between " ..........." " and so will show any duplicate content.
2. You can then go to their page and tell them to remove the duplicate content or get their service provider to remove the contents that they have taken from you.

Tools.

You will discover as you start to make money that you must pay a lot of monthly payment to use the tools you need to make it all work properly or do it all yourself. You need strong and reliable sales to pay for these services/tools.

If you do not pay for services online, then your will be using all your time manually building processes that can be done in minutes using the online services or software.

A prime example is auto responders. You will learn that if you are dealing with a list of subscribers to a newsletter or constant contact with a list of customers you will pay out for service from shopping carts and auto responders like aweber or 1shopping cart.

There are only a couple available that work ok but this is one online expense it is hard to do without if you have a list of more than a few thousand customers or prospective customers you would like to sell to.

What chosen market?

Not the market you would love to work in, the one that will make you money that is related in some way to your desires, morals and beliefs.

The one you found by doing months of keyword research with all the major search engines looking for a niche market that will still be around for long enough to make a dollar out of before the big fish swim in and swipe your niche cash cow.

The big guys can see all your advertising your online costs, all your keywords and keyword grouping, all your campaigns, so even if you have found a hot market you will not be alone for long unless you keep learning how to continue increasing your heavy solid authority backlinks to stay in the top of Search Engines like Google, Yahoo and MSN at a minimum.