Hymns I Cannot Sing
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Hymn/Song: This Is My Father's World.
This is a beautiful song and most likely the composer, M.D. Babcock, was inspired to write the words of this song by his almost daily habit of taking a walk in the woods and the hills and the view afforded to him by those walks. In my country I liked to hunt and knew the forests and woods spending weeks in them and the Lord often led me to sceneries and views of absolute splendor one can only be convinced there was a Creator somewhere behind the scenes.
But, after you're gone back to "civilization", you hear of rapes, incest, murder, deceit, corruption, graft, intrigues, homicides, adulteries, perversions, robbery, stealing. The churches cannot give you the comfort and solace it is supposed to give God's sheep because the pastor is busy with his condemning messages, the members busy with their gossips and false concerns, like, "let's pray for brother this and that and his wife. they are having problems".
I cannot in all honesty agree with the song. My Father's world is one of righteousness, peace, love, where sin is unknown, and the light is the light of the Son of God. That is the world my soul hankers for, my home, my country, my Father's world.
Hymn/Song: Without Him.
This is another beautiful song except for two lines in the chorus which is very so out of tune with Scripture and so much an affront to the sovereignty of God in His creation and His power over all.
Who is the soul that can turn away a God powerful enough to create out of nothing ? The issue with this song is that it portrays Jesus as a pleading, begging, forlorn God who can be turned away from like any ordinary human. If Jesus wants you, He will get you, and He Himself said to Paul: Why persecutest thou me ? It is hard for you to kick against the pricks !
Call me picky, but I believe worship songs should live up to the two words it was formed from : worth-ship.
Hymn/Song: The Old Rugged Cross.
How could somebody who calls himself a Christian not cherish an old song of the faith, somebody reading this may ask himself. Well, for one thing, take a close look at the lyrics and notice that the focus of worship is on the cross, not really on the One who sanctified it. Jesus once told the Pharisees that the gold is less important than the temple which sanctifies the gold.
The cross means nothing without the Man put to death in it, and the blood that flowed from that Man. The bronze serpent saved lives in Israel, yet in the end God had it put away because it had served its purpose and corrupt fallen man has the tendency to put his focus on it, just as the hymn puts the focus on the cross.
I do not cherish the old rugged cross, more than I cherish the Savior. I will not cling to the Old Rugged Cross more than to the Man who was crucified on it, and conquered the death that it brought.
Further, the Dearest and Best who died on that cross, and lived again by the Power of the Holy Spirit, was not slain for a world of lost sinners. He came to save His People, and them only.
Hymn/Song : A Rose Among The Thorns
TWO THOUSAND YEARS HAS SINCE BEEN GONE
SINCE GOD LOOKED DOWN WITH LOVE
HE FILLED THIS EARTH WITH BEAUTY
WITH ROSES FROM ABOVE
HE HUNG UPON A RUGGED CROSS
TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM SIN
BETWEEN TWO THORNS THIS ROSE HE DIED
THREE DAYS HE BLOOMED AGAIN
Again, he came to save His People (not the world) (Matthew 1:21)
Hymn/Song: Dear Lord and Father of Mankind
For the simple reason that God is not the Father of mankind. He is the Creator, but He is the Father of those in Christ.
Hymn/Song: I Surrender All
More out of conscience than doctrine for I have not surrendered all, and had it not been for the grace of God I should be chastised for keeping some of my idols as Sarai did. Blessed is the Christian who is able to sing this song with a clean conscience before God and man.
Hymn/Song: Jesus Is All The World To Me
Again, more out of conscience than doctrine for many times my flesh overtakes me and I act and decide as if there is no God or Savior who promised "I will never leave thee, nor forsake me" and I forget Peter's words: Casting all your cares upon Him, for He careth for you".
Hymn/Song: My Jesus I Love Thee
For where is the Christian who can honestly say "for thee all the follies of sin, I resign" ?
Hymn/Song: Rescue the Perishing
Fanny Crosby is one of the most God-blessed hymn writer of this country, but in this song her theology is wanting. There are no more souls that are perish, or will perish, or have ever perished. Jesus Christ is the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world and His blood was spilled in eternity past and therefore all God's elect from all ages, past, present and future, are covered by the blood, redeemed, saved, and this was affirmed in this plane we call time, at the cross, by the blood that flowed in time.
Any perishing is timely, that is "my people perish for lack of knowledge", in other words, incorrect teaching, being in the jaws of wolves and false prophets here in this fallen world, but as far as eternity is concerned, safe and secure in Christ.
But Fanny Crosby has another song that will always bless the Christian soul. It is All The Way My Savior Leads Me.
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sorry, but your theology is just as wanting as that song (maybe Fanny's theology as a whole is okay). If the Lord took ALL of mankind's sins with Him to the stake and died for us all, then why aren't all of Mankind redeemed.
Then you say only a few will receive eternal life.
So that gives no value at all to the precious blood of Jesus.
As for many are called but few are chosen ?
It's got nothing to do with eternal redemption at all.
Read the context well and you will see it's about the call to the ministry.
"If the Lord took ALL of mankind's sins with Him to the stake and died for us all, then why aren't all of Mankind redeemed."
You're asking the wrong question. If He took ALL of mankind's sins with Him to the stake, which He did, the question you should be asking is this: When will He accomplish the redemption of all mankind?
Unless of course you think The Lord Our God and Creator of all things does things like dying a heinously painful death in order to fail miserably in saving only a handful of people.
"Many are called few are chosen" stands alone and also in context. It means what it says. Narrow is the gate and only a few there be that enter in. Wide is the path etc.
These Holy Scriptures do not apply to the lost and unsaved they apply only to true believers and/or counterfeit believers.
post your scriptures, then we can talk. or create a blog on it.
You said:
"Unless of course you think The Lord Our God and Creator of all things does things like dying a heinously painful death in order to fail miserably in saving only a handful of people."
But you're the one who said in your first post:
"Only those called and chosen - THE FEW, will receive eternal life out of this age."
So who's thinking what of whom ?
I am thinking only of this age for the few. The 1,000 years is another age, and the new heaven and new earth is another age after that.
You see you mainstream Christians have a very limited view of things and you also attach a lot of importance to this life and this age, as if it is the only one. This too paints a picture of a very limited god which I do not believe in.
I believe in an all powerful loving and merciful Godhead that will redeem all mankind, but definitely not in this age.
Romans 9:27-28 (KJV) Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: 28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
Here we can see two things 1) a remnant of Israel will be saved and this remnant will come out of the Tribulation at the end of this age and 2) This age is a short work that The Lord will make on this earth.
So when will the long work begin, because the Holy Scriptures tell us that ALL ISRAEL will be saved?
Romans 11:26-27 (KJV) And so ALL Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
There are no contradictions here just two events that will occur in the future at two different times and in different ages.
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Okay, so you are a universalist in your soteriology.
Fine.
I can live with that.
I am not a universalist.
I believe that God in His infinite wisdom and immeasurable grace elected a definite number of individuals (the Bible says that no man can number) from the fallen race of Adam, in Christ, and redeemed these individuals, and THEM ONLY, leaving all the rest to the consequences of their sins and choices.
I believe that when Jesus Christ went to the cross and resurrected from the grave, all who were elect in Him were at that cross, in that grave, and came out of that grave with Him, and as the Bible says are now "seated in heavenly places in Christ".
I do not believe in the evangelical Christians' view that souls need to be saved, because I believe that all the saving has already been done and accomplished, sealed and delivered, at the cross, and all the elect in Christ who will be born afte the cross are born redeemed although unregenerate because they are descended from Adam, and will be regenerated by the Holy Spirit in His own time, apart from any means.
You will also have to live with what I believe because I am not the Holy Spirit and I cannot presume to have the ability to convert you.
I can only voice out and explain what I believe and hold to.
"all who were elect in Him were at that cross, in that grave, and came out of that grave with Him."
Where does it record that in The Gospel accounts?
No human being is in heaven nor are there ever going to be any human beings, resurrected or otherwise, in heaven.
The Father is coming down OUT OF heaven with a new heaven and a new earth after the 1,000 years of The Lord ruling this earth is over.
Also, your beliefs do not tie in with the Holy Scriptures I have quoted above. All Israel will be saved. Now do you know who all Israel are, for it's not just the Jews.
No, not all Israel, if you are referring to national Israel.
The Lord is done with them. Paul was referring to the true Israel of God, composed of both Jew and Gentile, spiritual Israel.
"For THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL, which are of Israel:
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED" (Romans 9:6(b)-8).
As for my statement that the elect child of God was at the cross with Him, in the grave with Him, and resurrected with Him, this is called the believer's position in Christ.
Galatians 2:20 "I am CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST: nevertheless I live; yet not I, BUT CHRIST LIVETH IN ME: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."
Colossians 2:12 - "BURIED WITH HIM in baptism, wherein also ye are RISEN WITH HIM through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."
Colossians 3:1-3 -" If ye then be RISEN WITH CHRIST, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. FOR YE ARE DEAD, AND YOUR LIFE IS HID WITH CHRIST IN GOD...."
Ephesians 3:14 -"For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the WHOLE FAMILY IN HEAVEN AND EARTH IS NAMED"...
All flesh "Qualify" for redemption.
Not all will choose Life.
De:30:19: I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Ge:6:12: And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Ge:6:13: And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Job:34:15: All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.
Psalms:65:2: O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come.
Psalms:136:25: Who giveth food to all flesh: for his mercy endureth for ever.
Psalms:145:21: My mouth shall speak the praise of the LORD: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever.
Isa:40:5: And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Isa:66:23: And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Joe:2:28: And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Lu:3:6: And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
Joh:17:2: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
Ac:2:17: And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Go well
"For THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL, which are of Israel:
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED" (Romans 9:6(b)-8)."
Who are these people? Who are those who are of the birthright promise identified by Isaac's name, do you know who they are, because if you think they are the Jews then you are deluded? Who are the Royal line from Judah who are the real Jews and who are the Canaanite Jews, do you know the difference, for The Lord mentions people who say they are Jews but are not, they are of the Synagogue of Satan?
Where have you learnt all your nonsense? Why are you twisting the symbolism of Baptism into something that it's not? No one is in heaven with The Lord apart from The Father and the angelic realm.
What is the resurrection of the dead, which will not occur until the Lord's return to this earth? 1 Cor 1:15 If the saints are already resurrected what is the future resurrection for?
I feel you reading stuff into God's Holy Word that just isn't there. Did you make it all up yourself or did someone brainwash you with it?
Yes2Truth, you said:
"Who are these people? Who are those who are of the birthright promise identified by Isaac's name, do you know who they are, because if you think they are the Jews then you are deluded? "
I say - you back off with your aggression. This is MY blog, you are a visitor, and so far, I have been courteous to you.
I am getting the impression that you are a self-righteous prick who think you are a repository of God's truth. If you do not learn to use appropriate language and discussion manners in somebody's blog then I am going to write administration about it. This is a personal site, not a public forum.
You said:
Who are the Royal line from Judah who are the real Jews and who are the Canaanite Jews, do you know the difference, for The Lord mentions people who say they are Jews but are not, they are of the Synagogue of Satan?
I say: I am humoring your Armstrongianism now. These are the ELECT, whose names have been written in the Lamb's Book of Life FROM BEFORE the foundation of the world, composed of BOTH Jew and Gentile (not national Israel, and I have said this the 2nd time IF you are reading my post).
You say: Where have you learnt all your nonsense? Why are you twisting the symbolism of Baptism into something that it's not?
Read the Scripture, moron.
What did it say ? Who said it ? "Buried with Him in baptism"....PAUL said it, not I. You have issues with that?
Then go to Paul. The symbolism has not been changed. It is called the Doctrine of the Believer's Position IN CHRIST. You do know what 'IN CHRIST' means, implies, represents, symbolizes, and teaches, don't you ?
You say: What is the resurrection of the dead, which will not occur until the Lord's return to this earth?
And where did I say the resurrection of the saints have already occured, you dogpoop ?
You said: 1 Cor 1:15 If the saints are already resurrected what is the future resurrection for?
I say: Huh ? Either you forgot to put on your glasses, or you're shooting stuff from your not-so-reliable memory, or you don't know your Bible (which I think is the right one) or you're so self-righteously indignant YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE VERSE WAS SAYING, because here's 1Cor1:15, let me help you:
Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
Yestotruth and Fishmox Please step back now and say a prayer, if you are both Christians as I assume you claim to be by the knowledge of scripture, you are letting,anger and disrespect enter into this "comment" conversation. This is not necessary and I am sure meets with disapproval from God. Neither of you are master theologians I am sure! Even many of them have different point of views. It is fine to disagree on view points but when it comes down to it, you need to have enough ethics to agree to disagree without falling into Satan's domain! God Bless both of you! I believe simply in saved by grace! "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son" (John 3: 16-18). "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do " (Eph. 2:8,9). " the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes . . . " (Romans 1:16). " If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved " (Romans 10:9, 10). " As for you [believers], you were DEAD in your transgressions and sins [before you became believers], in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air [Satan], the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. . . .We were by nature objects of [God's] wrath. But because of his great love for us, God who is rich in Mercy, MADE US ALIVE with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved " (Ephesians 2:1-5). "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast." For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say 'No' to ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope--the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himeself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you " (Titus 2:11-15).
Now see how easy it is to use Scripture to support your beliefs! Those who are saved will have everlasting life and enter the gates of Heaven to be with our Lord and God.
Courteousness has got nothing to do with it. If you're writing a load of crap, then I'll tell you you are. If you don't like it then delete my comment and then I'll write a Hub to reveal you for the blind guide that you are.
And it is a public platform so perhaps you should have a webpage for your little world of delusion where no one can reply to you. Hopefully no one will find it.
No, I will approve your comments.
Courtesy has a lot to do with everything, even with disagreeing.
You're just a notch lower than Fred Phelps.
I think you two will enjoy each other's company, really complement each other.
I often feel like a hypocrite singing songs in church which I know I don't live up to.
You are sooo right. And I think many believers who left a church or "backslid" did so because they felt exactly the same way.
I know I once did.
geez you guys give me the creeps
Why do we give you the "creeps" ? Because we disagree with each other on this or because we don't like singing songs we doctrinally disagree with. Just curious.
I am very "critical" sometimes when it comes to word usage and sentence structure. I think I tend to agree with you for the most part because if I perceive any words to not be in agreement with what I know to be God's ways, etc. then I wouldn't want to sing them either.
One time I was in a church and the Song leader (not the preacher)-- got up and said come on everybody stand up and lets sing this song and shout it out to the devil!
I stayed sitting right down and silent and stuck out like a sore thumb because I know his thought behind the particular song we were singing was that it was telling Satan that he had no part in a child of God's life. This song leader thought it was great to stand up and talk directly to Satan and sing to him. Apparantly so did everyone else in there. I was thinking that I am here to worship and praise God and this doesn't include me singing a catchy tune to the devil.
So, to have you be extra careful and really thinking about what songs you sing and won't is a great trait to me. I think you are serving God as best as you can and you have strong feelings and thoughts and convictions on what is right so thanks for sharing this hub. :)
yes2truth says:
5 months ago
There is nothing wrong with Fanny Crosby's 'theology' as you mistakenly call it.
The Lord took ALL of mankinds sins with Him to the stake and died for us all.
What you are not taking into consideration is when and where the redemption of all mankind will take place and it's certainly not in this age.
Only those called and chosen - THE FEW, will receive eternal life out of this age.
Many are called but few are chosen.
The majority or the masses are not called at all.