I come as a thief
65Come forth from the grave
Behold I come as a thief
There is much confusion since the False Doctrine of the "Rapture" has appeared on the scene. But the Bible also tells us that there will be such things around to draw us away from the things taught from the beginning.
Jesus has already shown us and taught us via his words and those of his Apostles, when he is coming, and how he will make his most Grand Entry at his Day of the Lord.
The error has come in because of the Devil trying to cause the Church to think that God has delayed his coming, and by placing a Rapture mentality in the church he has achieved this.
It is labeled "Pre Trib" and "Mid Trib" and "Post Trib" . There will be a tribulation and a falling away. The falling away is taking place at the moment, because of the church falling for lies and even if possible the elect believing the additions to the pre arranged Doctrines and foundation God has set in place, this being......
Heb:6:2: Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Ga:1:3: Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Ga:1:4: Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Ga:1:6: I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Ga:1:7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
This hub could be considered a magnifying glass looking closer at Discern the signs of the times.
TRIBULATION
Before Jesus comes the Church must go through "Tribulation" it is part and parcel of being a son of God .Believers all go through tribulation,It is the time and testing of the Saints in Christ.It is also this period where God says he will never leave us or forsake us.The mark of the Beast is the reason for this Tribulation, because we are going to refuse the mark and even killed for the rejection of it.
M't:24:21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
M't:24:29: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
M'r:13:24: But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Joh:16:33: These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Ac:14:22: Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
Ro:5:3: And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Ro:8:35: Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Ro:12:12: Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;
2Co:1:4: Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
2Co:7:4: Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.
Eph:3:13: Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.
1Th:3:4: For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
2Th:1:4: So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
2Th:1:6: Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
Re:1:9: I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Re:2:9: I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Re:2:10: Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Re:2:22: Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
Re:7:14: And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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The Day of the Lord
M't:16:27: For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
M't:24:27: For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
M't:24:30: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
M't:24:31: And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
M't:24:37: But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
M't:24:39: And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
M't:24:44: Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
M't:25:13: Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
M't:25:31: When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
M't:26:64: Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
M'r:13:26: And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
M'r:14:62: And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Lu:12:40: Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
Lu:17:24: For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
Lu:17:26: And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Lu:17:30: Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Lu:18:8: I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Lu:21:27: And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Lu:21:34: And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
Lu:21:35: For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Lu:21:36: Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Joh:5:28: Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Ac:2:20: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Ro:5:9: Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
1Co:15:51: Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co:15:52: In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Th:1:10: And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1Th:4:16: For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th:4:17: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th:5:2: For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th:5:4: But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
2Th:1:7: And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th:2:1: Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th:2:2: That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th:2:3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Pe:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Re:3:3: Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Re:16:15: Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
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The Resurrection
M't:22:30: For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
M't:27:53: And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Lu:14:14: And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
Lu:20:35: But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Lu:20:36: Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Joh:5:29: And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Joh:11:24: Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Joh:11:25: Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Ac:1:22: Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
Ac:2:31: He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Ac:4:2: Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.
Ac:4:33: And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Ac:17:32: And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.
Ac:24:15: And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
Ro:1:4: And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Ro:6:5: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
1Co:15:12: Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Co:15:13: But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1Co:15:21: For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co:15:42: So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
Ph'p:3:10: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Ph'p:3:11: If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
2Tm:2:18: Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
Heb:6:2: Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
1Pe:1:3: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1Pe:3:21: The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Re:20:5: But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Re:20:6: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
The tribulation The Day of the Lord and The First Resurrection all follow a sequence and its this sequence that the Devil has tried to destroy in the mind of believers, in his effort to try and give believers doubt in the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
If you believe in the Rapture, you are piercing your self with a lie and you will think God has delayed his coming, because life as we know it is going to get worse for us believers, where things are going to try and rip us from our trust and faith in Jesus Christ.
But be of good cheer, looking forward to the day of our Lord.
God bless
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quietnessandtrust
Ok dude
I answered your other comment before I read this.I notice you are tying up Jesus prayer with the "Rapture".
There is only one resurrection and that is at the Coming of Jesus, the Day of the Lord. Its called the "First Resurrection" , this itself says there is only one for the believer in Christ, dead or alive. The next will be at the end after the 1000yrs.
1)Jesus suffered as Man.
2)Believer suffer as Christs.
The World does not suffer Tribulation, only believers suffer it, makes us martyrs of Christ, it is also the Time of testing of the Saints, mentioned in Revelation.
Yashua says himself .
M't:24:21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
M't:24:29: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Go well
Great hubs. I will keep reading.
HOOWANTSTONO says: "I notice you are tying up Jesus prayer with the "Rapture".
All I am saying is that the concoction of a rapture is a lie and Yahshua prayer against any such notion of us leaving the planet. I believe in the resurrection at HIS return exactly at is described. I do not believe in a resurrection of the rest of the dead until later as you said.
I was trying to get through to the rapturites by using a term they are familiar with. I know the passage is talking about the resurrection.
Explain if you will exactly what you mean by "the world does not suffer tribulation"
Will they not experience hardship like never before during the coming great one?
Shalom
quietnessandtrust
Its the believer that will suffer tribulation "thlipsis" greek for persecution,anguish. Because we will be the point of judgement from the world by our rejection of the Beast and mark. The key word is believers, not the world.
Hope that answers, go well
what about the words being caught up with him..1 Thessalonians 4:17
After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
and this one... 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 9for they themselves report what kind of reception you gave us. They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, 10and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.
well i believe the unbeliever will suffer this to..it rains on the just and the unjust.
jesusmyjoy
I slipped that verse in to
Thanks Bless ya
jesusmyjoy
I have verse 10 in, I was high lighting the coming more than where we come from.
Thanks again
jesusmyjoy says:
17 hours ago
"Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath."
To be rescued, does NOT mean to leave the earth.
It never has, esp. to a Hebrew.
Salvation is displayed on the earth, always has been.
Apostle John was boiled in oil, nothing happened.
Probably said "thanks for the bath guys." :-)
Was he rescued?
Though a thousand fall at your side, though ten thousand are dying around you, these evils will not touch you. (this is all happening on the earth mind you)
Shalom.
quietnessandtrust
You have a sense of humour, which is great. So far we know Jesus is taking us out of this world for a while in human terms.We are eternal already and waiting for our change,so it is for this reason, he will be returning to translate us. and after the resurrection he will deal with the world. The day of the Lord is the climax soon to happen with a trump and voice from the angel.
1Th:4:17: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The place is called Third heaven.the eternal realm,Paul was there if you remember.
Tribulation is persecution for believers. The wrath of God is his immediate punishment on non believers who refuse to repent.
shalom
Yeah this is cool
GRIM REAPER
You still around, thanks
Judah's Daughter
Resurrection. I believe in the First resurrection "First" the emphasis, if there was another God would have said so.
Caught up was used 4 x
2Co:12:2: I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
2Co:12:4: How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
This wasnt a resurrection it was a translation the same as Enosh in Gen.
1Th:4:16: For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th:4:17: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Re:12:5: And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Caught here is Grk.. harpazo....to pluck,to take by force,
Resurrection is the words used so I dont see the reason of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
But note "dead in Christ shall rise first" then living translated in a twinkling of an eye same day atomic second same time "together"
Rapture is not part of my vocab.Its a latin word v Gods word.
Rapture is still a new invention from a generation of unbelievers in the Church. God calls it the yeast of the Pharasies. designed by the Devil to cause unbelief in the church.....unbelief means believing the wrong thing. There was no Rapture to the disciples or the Apostles or the Prophets.
Cheers
Not sure I understand what you mean, but that's okay. We see Lazarus resurrected and others while Jesus walked the earth. We see many believers resurrected when Jesus was. There will be more believers resurrected when we who are alive are caught up, and we see the "first" of two resurrections before and after the millennial reign. To say there are no resurrections prior to the "first" would be contradictory ~~ just my thoughts ~~
Judah's Daughter
The Day of the Lord, the coming of the Lord is also the day of the First Resurrection, the day we go to be with the Lord. Lazarus was not resurrected he was brought back to life, he did not go into eternal Life at that point unless he died before the Crucifixion.The OT resurrection was not the "First Resurrection" mentioned, it was Gods promise to OT believers being completed, the "First Resurrection" is for NT believers after the Tribulation (M't:24:29), which has already started to happen.
Cheers
Excellent Hub!!!!!
The Lord lead me directly to this hub. It is funny how God works because just last week, two other apostles along with myself, were discussing teaching this to our churches. I really have to sit down and read all of your hubs. Thankfully I fall under neither because I believe what the Bible teaches and all the scriptures to support my belief is in your hub.
Thanks a million for allowing the Lord to you use you in this manner. TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY!!!!
GOOD WORK....
Love Always,
Apostle Andrews
The Upper Room Deliverance Ministries Inc.
Atlantic City, NJ
Lady LaShonda
Hi there, yes the Lord does these things, in many ways, which is also reassuring, then we know who is in control, concerning his truth. I hope you are built up in knowledge in him, and can spread the seed.
God bless you.
As I was telling you about the Pre, Mid, and Post Tribulation, Most people believe that they will be raptured before the apocolyps (revelation) or the great revealing. I love to be the one to say that we all are going to be here for everything. It is only in Revelation will we be caught up with him to rule for a thousand years.
From my studies, Jesus will appear in the temple (Jeruselem) and establish his kingdom on earth. This is why the Antichrist feels that he could appear in Jeruselem and do the same. This is how he will deceive many into believing that he is the Christ. AND the POPE will give him the power to claim himself to be the Messiah.
I have something for you to watch if you don't watch it already. I don't know when the program plays where you are but every Monday night well Tuesday morning around 12:30 am Manefest with Perry Stone and 1:00 am Jack Van Impe on TBN. Watch them and they can give you headlines on prophecy being fulfilled.
I just want to add that no where in the bible does it mention the word rapture. If it does, somebody please give me the scripture for it. If any of you can prove that the word rapture is mentioned in the bible, then its possible a rapture may take place. But since Jesus never taught rapture, I don't believe that it will take place the way mankind has adopted.
About Psalms 91 chapter....
This was the scripture David used when he was in battle. Its more like a prayer during the times of war. The entire scripture embodies God's protection for us all who are in him. Yes we will be persecuted on every hand reguardless for his name sake. But nothing will be able to attack us, because is with us. In order to completely understand Psalms 91 we have to use Psalms 23 with it to keep the context.
Lady LaShonda
I agree with you 100%, Jesus also said that believers would go through the tribulation, and then he will come,which is the day of resurrection.
M't:24:21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
M't:24:29: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Christians always have been persecuted, and Revelations says it will be a time of testing for the saints, also the mark of the beast will have to be rejected for which we will be killed.
Rapture is not in the bible, and I dont believe in it.
I will have a look at van Impe
God bless you
Its so great that we are talking about the tribulation. One thing we all tend to forget about is persecution and tribulation isn't just going to happen as far as governmental, the enemy is trying to attack our personal lives so we can focus our attention on the trial at hand and take our eyes off of Jesus. One good parable that the Bible teaches is Peter walking on the water. We often take it literal (and it is supposed to be taken literally)but spiritually as well.
That wind that blew Peter's faith in the water is the test, trials, persecutions, and tribulations that we are naturally supposed to endure. Problem was, Peter forgot who God was for a moment and took his eyes off of him.
Doctrine is another wind that was manufactured and distributed to take our focus off of Jesus. SAD PART IS, people put more faith in doctrine than Jesus. AND JESUS taught that the doctrines of man caused them to transgress against the law.
This is another misconception of the Church. They can not understand the concept of Jesus coming to fulfill the Law. Doctrines made everyone believe that Jesus took the law with him when he died on the cross. Far from the truth. The truth is, he died so that we no longer have to die for breaking God's law. The commandments are still the same and are meant to be fullfilled. This is why most people have adopted the rapture theory.
They say, "Jesus took all the persecutions and such to the cross with him." And in essence, they are partially correct. But what they suddenly forgot was the fact that real persecution and tribulation occured after his death. We can not let the doctrines of man continue to cause us to transgress against the Law. When we practice more doctrinal than relational, we practice disobedience. Disobedience is witchcraft. and witchcraft is sincerely not of God.
We can not allow doctrines of man to cause us to take our eyes off Jesus. All we have to do is keep our focus and study to show ourselves approved...a workman...rightly dividing the truth....
Lady LaShonda
Yes you are correct, the trials and tribulations, are our strengthening, imagine if we didnt have the persecutions, how will we learn to trust God. Jesus said if they love me they will love you if they hate me they will hate you. We will have the thorn in the flesh till we die or taken. So will the coming days be till the day of The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thanks for the comment.
God bless
Amen and amen....I am constantly reminded of the thorns in my flesh...lololol....
Lady LaShonda
Go well
Hello Hoowantstono,
You already know that when I come up with new information, I am sharing. I want to tell you something that is thought provolking. Just one of those things that makes you wonder but rings so true especially according to scripture.
This concerns the END OF DAYS persay..
I was watching Perry Stone last night and the most interesting concept was brought to my attention. How do you feel about Egypt and America comparison?
They compared the Israelits exodus to the return of Christ...
Let me try to explain this so it can be understood.
They said that we are at the very point now where Israel was right before being delivered from Egypt. Meaning God sent Moses to deliver the Israelites from Egypt and Jesus is coming to deliver us from the Antichrist.
There was another topic of covenant...
The pharoah didn't know the covenant Joseph had with Egypt. The presidents of our time, forgot the constitution thus pushing their own agendas.
They say we can determine our future according to our past. If indeed history repeats itself, what do you suppose will happen?
Lady LaShonda
I think mixing politics and the coming of Jesus is a mismatch because, this is how the Roman Catholic religion started, and also killed a great deal of true christians and believers. The politics of today is the Anti-christ, and always was, and is,and ready to die. When Jesus comes, it will be to take us away from his wrath, but not away from the Anti-christ. Jesus said "after the tribulation" in Mat24:29: God has this in such a manner, that it will be a testing of the saints in Re:7:14.
So rather expect worse when we start rejecting 666, and getting killed for it, than expecting good from the government. I am not American, but have lived in the USA for long periods in the past. I can say this though, UK and USA is the second beast in Revelations that shall join the EU, soon to happen for one world government, a NWO plan.
Go well










quietnessandtrust says:
5 months ago
Hey man: I am in your camp on this one. Started a forum on it too and here is what I put in the topic.
John 17:15-20 where Jesus (Yahshua) is praying to HIS FATHER:
"I'm not asking you to take them out of the world,
but to keep them safe from the evil one.
They are not part of this world any more than I am.
Make them pure and holy by teaching them your words of truth.As you sent me into the world, I am sending them into the world. And I give myself entirely to you so they also might be entirely yours.
I am praying not only for these disciples but also for all who will ever believe in me because of their testimony."
I separated the first and last verse for our benefit. So read those 2 again by themselves a couple of times slowly. :-)
OK, so from there, let's talk about WHY ? WE NEED ?? A RAPTURE ??? BEFORE THE TRIBULATION ?????
And be careful to remind yourself what THE MESSIAH just prayed.
And before you start, here is a nice verse to ponder as well.
Psalm 91
"For he will rescue you (on the earth) from every trap and protect you from the fatal plague.
Do not be afraid of the terrors of the night, nor fear the dangers of the day, nor dread the plague that stalks in darkness, nor the disaster that strikes at midday.
Though a thousand fall at your side, though ten thousand are dying around you, these evils will not touch you. (this is all happening on the earth mind you)
For he orders his angels to protect you wherever you go. The LORD says, I will rescue those who love me. I will protect those who trust in my name.
I will satisfy them with a long life and give them my salvation."
(In Hebrew salvation is called Yahshua and translated Jesus in English)
OK...Now keeping in mind all of the above...please go ahead and answer.
Shalom