I want to be Ari Gold: How to Become a Talent Agent
71Talent agent is a demanding job for any newbie to film. Being a talent agent requires knowledge in marketing, promotions and public relations. There is a good chance it will require a bit of college, at least an AA in marketing.
A good talent agent needs to be able to recognize talent. Needs to be able to know what is going to get his client at the top of the success list of their particular trade.
Talent agent may work for various people that have specific talents. The most common, of course, is actors. Models also work with talent agents.
Talent agents usually will pick a type of people to work with and stick with that type throughout their careers. Many choose to work exclusively with children. Some may choose just television series actors, commercial actors or just film actors or high-profile celebrities.
The larger talent agencies will provide training programs for individuals who are interested in a career as a talent agent. These are called internships. It most likely requires the wannabe to do errands and paper work, at first, very little to do with working with talent.
When you join a talent agency, it is very wise to learn the rules of the land. Find out exactly the dos and don’ts of the group. You do not want to step on anyone’s toes or make a blunder that could cost the agency in money and reputation.
Some the key tasks that you can count on to do as a talent agent are:
- Meet with future clients to find out what type of talent they may need for their projects. Connect the specific talent to the clients.
- Public relations or networking and promoting talent to different clients to set up auditions and jobs.
- Scheduling or booking appointments for the talent. This could include appropriate working hours and regulations adhere to in full.
- Marketing talent agency in general to obtain more talent. This is very competitive aspect in an industry town. So, keep your wits about you.
- Collecting fees due upon booking of auditions or obtaining employment of talent. This may require billing on a 30-day cycle.
- Arranging classes or workshops for talent to hone their skills and crafts through voice lessons, acting lessons or other specialized training for specific talents.
To start as a talent agent in a non-union or non-industry town, it is important to locate the agencies in that town or one that is not too far from your town. Meeting with the owner and see if there is any way you can help his or her agency.
The only draw back with working with a non-union agency is that they are not regulated; thus, the rules of being a talent agency might not be the same as a union agency.
Union agencies are registered with the unions and follow the rules according to what the union states. This is really the ideal way to go because then everyone in the business are on the same page.
However, if one works with a non-union agency, the rules could be different and curves could be coming your way – so be aware and study the union rules on your own, so you know what the right way is really the union way.
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Great! Where do you live and are you in Hollywood? If so, start there by working with a casting director and work your way into being an assistant.
Good luck.
I would like to become a talent agent, but what if I don't live in LA?
You find a local agency that operates like a talent agency. Or, work for a casting director. Good luck.
I would like to movie to Hollywood and become an agent for high-profile celebrities, what should I study in college?
Study film, public relations.
I wold like to be a actors agent... Is going to UCLA and majoring in Mass Communications and minoring in public affairs while having an internship a good route?
Or are there other majors I should look at?
Also are there lots of jobs out there for aspiring agents?
If you have the money to go to school, that's a great route because you can network with alumni and teachers. Most of the teachers at UCLA work in film or are retired from film.
If you are a hard, honest worker who is a team player, the film business is for you.
I do live in the Los Angeles area and am currently in highschool, are there any steps as far as where im at now that I could take to help me reach my goal of being a talent agent in the future?
You are in the right place. What I would do is start working with your teachers, the ones that are positive, and ask for informational interviews with agents. If you don't know what an informational interview is just google it or look in my book, Breaking into Film, which is available at a library.
Beverly Hills Playhouse is a great resource to set you in the right direction.
Okay ill look into that right away. Also how do you go about applying at an agency?
(very loosely put) Do you just walk in and say hey im here for an intership?
I would work with your teachers and then make contact via letter or phone first announcing your plans to visit the agency. Ask or a tour, again, the informational interview is key.
I am currently a Junior at the University of Connecticut majoring in Economics with a minor in Business Administration. After this Summer I will have had 2 internships with GE and want to become a talent agent. I am about an hour from NYC. Do I have any shots at being a Talent Agent with this kind of major, minor and internships? What should be my next step? I head William Morris has a great Trainee program for becoming a talent agent.
You can be anything you want to be. What I recommend is contacting William Morris Agency and establishing a communication with them. Find out how they hire and determine potential interns.
yea i am going to shenendehowa highschoolin NY im in 11th grade and i am very intereted in buisness and i was wondering if i acheived a 2 year AA degree from Cobleskill college then transfered to a college in california near hollywood would i have a good shot being a talent agent? I am very good with other people and i like to get to know people ive wanted to be a talent agent for sometime i also want to know what else do you think id need to become succesful in this area??
Corey,
Great plans. That's the way to get there is plan it out and do it.
The only other thing I would do is work for a local radio station in the promotion department. Some stations hire college bound kids who want a career in the entertainment business.
Clearly state what you want to do the radio station and see if they can set you up with some experience.
Good luck.
Thank you very much i will get on that very soon i have one more question please? WOuld trying to become an intern at a big agency in a place like LA do you think it would be smart toi take that over then just rushing in to apply
Im currently a Sophomore at the University of Washington. I am majoring in Communications and Economics and will be receiving a certificate of sales and marketing. This summer I will be interning at a talent agency in LA. If I am just doing internships during summer before I graduate will that experience and education be enough to break in to agencies even though i will not be working year round?
Of course. you will be ahead of the others. Very well done for getting the internship. Remember to network and work hard. You will succeed.
I am Commited to becomming a talent agent. I will be attending UCLA in the near future. I know nothing is certain but what would be the most impressive major for this career and what other things should i be doing when i am at UCLA?
I recommend screenwriting, public relations, business
When should I start to apply for internships and what are some agencies that you recommend me to apply for internships?
Apply now. All the big agencies have internships. It depends where you live.
I live in Los Angeles and I want to become a talent Agent for actors. Where can i find a mentor. How much yearly income could i make in this business?
I would check any large agency through your college or university to get credit. You can make up to millions.
Would graduating from UCLA majoring in Business Econ and a minor in Film television be a good route or should i consider another major ?
Yes, while doing an internship through your college program.
very helpful. my mom wants to be mine and my sister's agent for my sister it is for modeling and for me it's singing.
Great, I am sure you will be very successful.
If i wanted to become an agent in the music industry in Los Angeles, which companies are popular and which offer internships ?
Although I am not in the music industry, I would suspect the larger companies offer internships. I would check with you career center at your college or university and find out from them. Most companies inform these educational foundations available internships.
Hey im back again, with a few more questions.
First off im going into my senior year in highschool and although im a very good student, I just dont think that collage is what I want, Im very anxious to start my career. Is there any ways to apply for internships right out of highschool with any talent agencys? i know william morris you need your 4 year, but is there any other agentcys that will take you under there wing without it? I have no direct connections with an talent agents, matter of fact the closest iv ever been to a talent agent is talking to you haha but im determined eather way.
And Second
My dad is a Director of Photography and my mom in the head call board nurse for the entire nurseing union in the studios, she also runs the nursing department at CBS. So i have an oppertunity for an intership at the mailroom there, although its not a talent agentcy do you think that would be a good path to start with to become a talent agent?
Boutique agencies most likely will not have as many limitations. Since your mom and dad are in the biz; perhaps you should see what personal contacts they have to help you find an agency that is willing to have you for the summer "in between" high school and college.
I understand you don't want to go to college; that is your choice. But, ask an agency if you can work during the summer next year to get your "feet wet." Then, you can work really hard from the bottom up without college.
Also, starting in the mailroom is not a bad idea as long as you make it clear to your senior what your goals are in the business. He or she may be able to help you if you turn out to be an excellent worker and a great team player.
Good luck.
I am a business major at UCLA, do you think that I should be studying law instead? i want to have the best chance i could possibly get in getting an internship at any of the top agencies..... Do you have any suggestions ?
I wouldn't study law per say. But you might want to take a law in film class or something like that. k
Business degree is a great step. Public Relations is also important.
I am going to transfer to UCLA next year. What can I do as soon as i get there to help me get into this business?
Go to your career center or counsoler and ask for assistance. This means make yourself known: Hook up and network with professors, alumni and students -- join filmmaking groups watch for talent and people who get things done, not just talk.
I'm wondering how much of a step up having a law degree would be...I imagine that someone with a both a 4 year undergraduate degree and a law degree would have a step up from anyone with just a 4 year or nothing at all especially if the law degree was focused on business law or something of that nature...is this a good assumption or would law school be usesless?
If you have the time and money to put in 8 years of college, then go for it. Yes, it will open doors for you.
Hi, I have a couple questions I was hoping you'd still be able to answer. I live in Michigan and am starting college here in the fall...any recommendations as to what I should major in? I am looking to be an acting talent agent in the future. Also, should I be planning to head to California after a year of schooling here, for better opportunities and internships? And continue my schooling there. Thanks
If you have the money go to Hollywood and get on an internship -- work with your college to do that.
If you don't have the money, locate the nears union city and get a job working with an agent or casting director to get a feel for culling actors for auditions. While doing that, network and make com lines to get a job in Hollywood.
Thank you. I am still not convinced that being an agent is a very realistic job. Do you need connections in Hollywood to be successful in this field? Or is it a job where if I take my time and work hard, I'll see myself moving up in the agency?
Networking is definitely the issue here. You need to make friends, deliver the goods and keep your nose clean.
I have been approached by a screenwriter and an actor to become their agent. What now?
I have an AA in business management and apent a decode in mangement for a copuple learge corporations and have gotten invoilded in some small independent projects but nothing that has put me into the game so to speak. I know a casting driector that I did an interview with for my websiote as I am also establishiong myself as a personality. I know people and how to recognize the talent and convey it. I just need a point in the right direction as to who I should contacting and what learing the dos and don'ts with casting directors and prodcution comapnies for selling my writers scripots and selling my actor.
What is cheap book I can pick up and read to get me going in the right direction so I don;t screw these guys. Both are putting a alot of trust anf faith in me and I do not want to let them down in anyway. It's not so much that i care about my 10% as it is that I want to make sure I earn it and get them the most for their talent. It keepos me up at night worrying about doing something that might me detrimental to their careers as I am inexperienced. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oh and the Actor has been in close to 50 movies and tv shows as acharacter actor in bit parts. The writer has yet to sell a script.
To be a pro you have to act like a pro.
Presentation is key to any career in film. You post has excellent question but the it is filled with misspelled words.
If you present yourself this was in the business, you will end up with the wrong people.
I will answer this quesiton when you posted it again with all the words spelled correctly, you might as well start now. Good luck.
Are there any good books that could give me soem more information on becomming a talent agent ?
I recommend my book, of course, Breaking into Film, it covers all aspects. Good luck.
I live in Canada and am planning on going to the University of Toronto. My parents have the money to pay for appropriate schooling in film/business. What education is needed to get an internship in LA, and what will give me an advantage over the competition? As well, will working in a mailroom provide the finances necessary to afford housing, food, etc. in Los Angeles?
Hi, I'm in a rural area with a town that is just becoming recognized as a great place for film locations. There are several productions filming in my state right now. The closest "talent" agencies are several hours away. I was 4 classes from finishing a degree in comm and PR. I know I can do this, what legal info do I need? Do I incorporate? Do the fees come to the agency to be distributed back to the talent minus commission? Is this all covered in your book? Thanks~
No this is not covered in my book; however, you might want to be a casting director/agent. In a small town or non-union town, this might work. If you want to have the production company pay you and then you pay the actors, that can work. The legal aspects you need to discover for yourself because I am not an attorney therefore I can not give legal advice.
Hello Kenna i was researching and wondering if the correct major is business communications if i want to become a talent (actors) agent. Also in New Jersey is there any places you recommend to start as an intern or any plases i could email? Also does the college you attend really help you much in this business or just knowing people, working hard, and your people skills help you get up in the industry? Thanks for all your help.
I would check with your local colleges and universities and see what they come up with in regards to contacts and information abouit talent agents in Jersey.
You can also do an Internet search or check with NY agencies and see if they have an office in Jersey as well.
Good luck.
I am a recent college graduate, also with impressive numbers in my current field. I have been in the financial services industry for a little over a year. Though, this job is exciting being that it allows me to utilize every skill I have plus fronting others that I don't. This fast paced environment is very similar to the life of a talent agent or at least I assume so. However, I want more and I know I could make it in Hollywood. Before I pack up my stuff and move from NYC to LA I want to know, being 21 am I to late or should I go for it? I want to take the risk I am just a little weary. Also is a training program a good idea for me or should I try other options (if there is any)?
Don't be so quick to pack your bags and leave NYC. Set up appointments with NYC agencies, using good judgement, find out through interviews whether or not you can make it as an agent.
You might find out that you don't have to leave NYC, but work with an agency there.
Good luck.
It is becoming a passion of mine to want to explore the agency business, but i live in new york and do not really have the rich parents, does this meen becoming a high profile agent in hollywood is unrealistic?
No, you can do whatever you want.
Im currently in the military and i have about 3 years left in the seattle area, is there anything the military has taught me that will be of value and what more do i need to do to become a talent agent.
I am not a military person, so I don't know what they train you for except combat or computers. Electronics?
But, perhaps you can network with vets who are in the entertainment business. Vets are a tight group, wanting to help each other.
In your research for an agency, see if you can locate an agency with the top guy who is a former military man, too.
I'm very interested in trying to get into the business. I went to SUNY Cortland for Communications, PR and Advertising, live in the NYC area, and just underwent the best sales training program for my current job that is out there. What whould I do next, specifically to my proximity to NYC?
Thanks
Network and hob nob with those who are in the business. Read the trades, get to know who is who in the business. Work hard and act like a professional before you are one. Keep your hands clean.
With all due respect, I came across this page through a google search, and will probably never return to it after this post. However, I felt it would be beneficial to some of you if I shared some insight.
For starters, many of you are already doubting yourselves. That is one sure step on the path to failure.
Another thing worth mentioning is that many of you seem to think a certain education will gain you special entry into a certain field - that is hardly the case. I don't think college is a trade school, although there are obviously certain schools and majors that would align one on a certain career path. College is a place to gain broad knowledge and a better understanding of yourself and the world, while majoring (8-10 classes) on a certain topic of interest to you. Don't be fooled into thinking a certain major in college will give you a golden ticket to your dream job. Before locking yourself into a certain major based on your aspirations as a teenager, try and think more broadly and gain as many transferable skills as you can (ie. proper spelling).
I also want to emphasize the importance of networking and making personal connections - they will prove invaluable when you pursue a career (in any field). Many of you would probably be surprised to know the number of lucrative jobs that are basically handed to someone because of their father's reputation or a previous boss had a connection to help them out. That's not to say school is a waste; just make sure you have a great education and make contacts along the way.
To give you an idea of my previous statement, consider my own personal experience. My father got me a summer job in a mailroom at a law firm when I was about to graduate middle school at the age of 14. 8 years later, and entering my last semester of college, I have seen tremendous doors open by sticking with the law firm. Although my actualy job sucked for the most part, I was able to meet many attorneys and people in positions of power and authority. They have written letters of recommendation for me, landed me internships at other companies, taught me how to survive in a corporate environment, and most recently, offered to pay (partially at least) for me to attend law school. The internship I just mentioned was in the business of sports. In addition to that, I have worked for and maintained a decent relationship with a world reknown literary agent who has given me invaluable insight into the world of negotiating contracts and managing talent.
I'm 22 years old with 8 years of work experience and dozens of contacts in sports and entertainment - and I don't even have a college degree yet (which by the way will be in Communications: Advertising & Public Relations, '09).
As Kenna said above, view yourself and act as a professional. There are millions of people looking for a handout, or majoring in a certain subject thinking it will land them their dream job, when it normally doesn't work out that way. Being professional and having people take you seriously is more important that what you studied when you where 20 years old.
To they guy who wondered if he should leave NYC at age 21 to move to Hollywood, and if it was too late for him to do so, I have three words for you: You're A Baby! I don't say that to insult you, I say that to let you understand, most 21 year olds aren't even employeed, let alone Hollywood Agents. NYC is the perfect place to get your foot in the door. Midtown is flooded with companies that are into representing talent. As I stated above, I got my foot in at a law firm. Many law firms do the same things talent agencies do, and in my opinion are more qualified to do so (not based on skill, but on ethical standards rather).
Don't be so specific when pursuing a goal. Develop your skills and master what you do (college will only provide basic knowledge). If you want to be an actor's agent, perhaps you may find it easier to be an agent for a stand-up comedian in your neighborhood. Books shows for him or her, manage money, even if it's $300 a month - just get yourself in the game. That type of real-world experience is just as, if not more appealing, than what you studied, as far as established agencies are concerned. They don't care so much that you were a perfect student, as they do how well you can work for them.
That's just my $0.02 and I hope someone out there gains something from it.
Please pardon any potential spelling errors as I rushed to type this. I don't want anyone to think I'm not practicing what I preach ;)
Hey Kenna,
Well Im 21 and an international student studying undergrad economics and communications in Canada.I find the idea of becomming a hollywood agent extremely exciting,and i do have a strong feeling that I would truly enjoy. But the problem is that Im in canada have no idea what is needed out of individual to be what i want to be.........any comments on how I should go about it?
Canada has its own market which you will have to check out and see. Toronto is ideal as well as Quebec and Montreal. Vancouver has tons of film production.
Make yourself known and find out what is needed and wanted. Good luck.
Hey,
Im studying communications and film studies at an undergrad level.Does that sound right?
Apart from that what skills u think are needed to a successful ari gold,And also I i wanted to tell u that i just turnd 21 , does that sound overage considering my degree would take another 3 yrs?
And also I wanted to ask a wierd question which bothers me some times that Im an international student from the indian subcontinent, would being brown prove to be some thing alien to the glamour industry?
Thanx a lot agin kenna, ur last reply was of great help!!!
Color, race and gender shouldn't affect your goals and purposes; although I am sure it does in society. If you truly want to be an Ari Gold agent them you will do it.
Communication and Film Studies is and excellent choice; although I would check with your college/university to get feedback from them.
Age is just a consideration like color, race and gender. If you think it's a big deal then it is. Otherwise, carry on and make your goals.
You'll do fine.
Hello Kenna,
My brother is a great singer/actor! He's 19 yrs old and is just getting started. He done a few plays and have auditioned for American Idol and other talent shows on his own. He recently asked my to represent him. How would I go about doing that, or becoming his manager or agent?
It doesn't take much but research is very important. Find out exactly what is need to be an agent. Make sure you get everything in writing between you and your brother. When the going gets tough, having your agreements in writing will save you both in the long run. Good luck on your research.
I went to the International Academy of Design & Technology in Toronto where I graduated from the Entertainment Business Management program. I'm not sure if you are familiar with the program but it mainly focuses on Film Television and Media Marketing. If you are familiar with it, would you suggest that I take other business programs?
To be honest with you if you went to a school that covered Entertainment Business and Management, that school should be able to answer that question for you. You spent your time and money there now get what you paid for.
Film schools, film industry schools should have a career center that answers all your questions, they should even help you with job placement.
Why are you at the Toronto Film Festival networking?
Let's jus say the career centre at this institute isn't what they said they would be. I have been networking. I've even worked on a few films as a Production Manager. I was just reading your postings and thought I would give it a shot. I just want to take the time to thank you for what you are doing here. I think it's a great idea and I know people will benefit from your help.
Great. You've worked on some projects as a production manager, great. Networking is where it is at in the industry. Relationships, relationships. If you are working in the business why go to school? What do you want to be?
I have a degree from Florida in English with an emphasis in film studies. Law school is right around the corner, and I am interested in which type of law to study for a career as a talent agent. Should it be business law or entertainment law? I am a bit confused as to what I should do to gain an edge over some others. In other words, which concentration would better prepare me for this field? Thanks!
Entertainment industry is a business. I would go with Entertainment Law. Good luck.
hey ..
any comments on the kind of money a moderately successful agent makes...just curious!
Enough to get your kids through college.
I go to Fordham University and I want study to become a film agent. What are the best courses to take, and what should I minor/major in?
Entertainment Law, business law and pr, marketing
Hey,
I'm from New Zealand and I'm currently studying in my 1st year at the University of Auckland. Next year I'll be studying a double major in Film studies and Employment Relations & Organizational studies. This is a 3 year Bachelor Degree; enough to get me into an Agent Training Program or Internship at WMA, CAA or UTA for instance? I'll be doing an exchange year at UCLA in my last year. Anything else which I could do which would be useful for me to become a talent agent?
I've studied IGCSE exams from Cambridge at high school which are supposed to be highly recognised overseas. I'm currently reading several book as well such as 'The Mailroom', 'Reel Power' and a few others.
Also, what are my chances getting into one of the programs?
Also, it's under a Bachelor of Arts. Would psychology be something to consider?
I am an aspiring actress who is currently living in canada- but i will be moving back to the uk next year. I really want to get myself out there this year and i will get an agent when in the uk, but for now i dont want to pay the agency fees so i wondered if my mum could represent me and be my agent. if so, how would she go about doing that?
Yes, your mom can represent you. I am sure if you do an google search for information regarding this issue you'll find it. Just make sure you have everything in writing -- even though you are relation, get it in writing like a contract.
Hey, Kenna can you please answer the following questions I have.
Im 19 year olds atm studying a Bachelor of Arts majoring in Employment Relations + Organizational Studies (EROS) and Film Studies. This is a 3 year degree... Do you know if this is this good enough to get me into one of the bigger L.A. agencies training programs? If not, could you please give me some pointers on how to increase my chances as this is something I've always wanted.
Thanks, Oz
Without know your school, I would say network and use your career center as much as possible. Write letters of introduction, get on the communication lines of the business now.
The minute I saw the word "Ari Gold", I knew I had to read this page. Pretty much, I love to network adn be around people. I live in Toronto, and despite the horrible weather, its not Hollywood. Since I don't have the funds to live in the States, I want to do some courses here and then go there, is there any courses besides Public relations and and film that I should take, that can help me in my pursuit to become a talent agent/manager?
Also, I will be attending the Screenwriting Expo in Los Angeles On Novemver 12th to the 16th. Any suggestions to help me get some contacts?
Study literature. Know how stories are made, learn and read the trades.
Take tons of business cards and be ready to ask for business cards. Care about people and find out what they want to do.
This site is titled "I Want to Be Ari Gold." Is it really beneficial to be like Ari Gold? I understand that he is a fictional character from a TV show, but his characteristics include taking advantage of people, making friends with some, and stepping on the backs of others. I guess what I am asking is that is it good to look out for yourself before others? I know you mentioned team work and keeping your nose clean, but is that somewhat unrealistic?
If you want a long and healthy career, keep your hands clean. www.twth.org
This mum to both twins ten years writing from Norway. Can you please audit them if possible because they are interrested in acting and modelling
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Email me via www.movieroar.com. I look forward to hearing from you.
I'm a recent college graduate from KS, interested in the entertainment biz. I majored in Political Science, because I had interest in it, and wanted to go to law school. I have a very good GPA, but I'm not getting the high scores on the LSAT necessary to get into the top schools. What kind of competition would I be facing if I were to apply to one of the agency training programs such as the one William Morris offers? If a majority of them hold law degrees,MBA's, etc., I fear I wouldn't stand a chance.
Top schools are ideal; it means a lot but cost a lot.
Training programs are a great way to go because a least you've got your foot in the door.
I would check with the agencies and see what they say. Also, look at the careers of successful agents. What path did they take?
Are there any internships available to high school students in the agency or entertainment business (juniors or seniors) that you know of?
Not that I know of.
hello, Im a college student attending Kendall College of Art/Design Grand Rapids, Michigan majoring in Graphic Design and minor in business, whats out there for a person like me in the entertainment business!
thanks,
The door is as wide open as you want to make it. I suggest going to your college career center and research the opportunities. The career center is available to service you, so take advantage of it. Good luck.
Right now i'm just dabbling with the whole "manager" thing but what are approprate majors or suugested majors to be succesful in this career? I'm intersted in managing either film/music or sports.
Right now i'm just dabbling with the whole "manager" thing but what are approprate majors or suugested majors to be succesful in this career? I'm intersted in managing either film/music or sports.
Decision is key. Decide what you want to be and go for it. Some times it's hard to decide, I understand. But, decide what you want to have first, what you have to do in order to get what you want to have, then be. These steps followed exactly will get you where you want to go. L. Ron Hubbard expounds on this in is early writings. I tried and found it worked for me.
I you want a life where you help manage people's careers and so forth great.
But you need to decide.
Then you need to go to your career center and find out how to become what you want to be.
2 posts are better than one:)
I am interested in becoming a talent agent- Films, music, etc. What would i need to Major/minor in to becoming an agent. Would it be PR, communications, marketing, business administration, or something else? I need to choose; what should i pick?
also do i need a law degree/license in legal jurisdiction?
Thanks again
Law degree would be very helpful because it offers more to the company you are employed.
PR is very important in this business whether you are an agent, actor, writer, director. Relationships are key to the film business. It could never hurt to learn this and apply it to your career.
Hi im still in High school and i want to reach my dream of becoming a talent agent. Can you tell me the steps i need, the classes i should start taking to achieve my goal, and the classes i should take in college.
Get involved with the school theater, film and arts program. Run for class president or subsequent office. Practice building strong relationships with your teachers and student body.
Reak my book Breaking into Film. Follow all checklists in the book. Good luck.
Hi I am a freshman at the University of Colorado open major hopefully transfering into the school of business, but am 100% convinced the agency is the place for me. I read most of your posts, but ofcourse am going to ask what you suggest i study in school? I live in Los Angeles when not at school and do have a connection of a talent agent. Any advice would be great. thanks.
What I would study is literature, call the classics. Understand what a story is and how it gets made into a film. Some agents become producers, so this would be a great avenue for you.
I would also take Public Relations classes, communication media -- things like that.
I would even take an Acting 101 class, so you are familiar with the process.
Hello Kenna, I am a freshman in highschool and so far I have been thinking about becoming a talent agent. I live in Central New Jersey so I dont know how that will fair. Any pointers?
You will fair just fine as a talent agent. I recommend that you concentrate on your school work and get excellent grades. Run for student president or something similar. Get involved become a "people" person because that is what it will take. I am sure you will do well.
Hello Kenna, I am currently in high school Grade 11 and I have been thinking on what i should do for a career since Grade 10 - so far my decision has been to become a talent agent. The courses I'm currently taking that revolve around this career are Marketing, Accounting, English and Spanish. I'm getting above 90% in all those courses. The only concern I have is that I live in Vancouver, British Columbia Canada and I have no idea what courses to take in College or University. Could I still pursue a career of being a talent agent because of my location? Also, if I were to become only a local talent Agent, what kind of income do they receive?
Hi Shaun,
Sounds like you are an excellent student.
Of course, you should go to Hollywood, but if you get experience while going to college in Canada, all the better.
I would go to the college or university and talk witht the career counsoler and see what he or she says about local work while in school.
You could even hook up with a casting company, which will help you get a feel for the business.
I am sure Vancouver has plenty of work for experience before you head to Hollywood or New York. Good luck.
PS Try Toronto too.
Hello Kenna, I know many have asked this already but yet I still am confused as to what i should be thinking about as far as a major or classes in college. Right now I take an accounting and finance class in high school but I am not sure if that is the path i should continue to stay with if I'm thinking about becoming a talent agent.
Being an agent mean understanding and have knowledge of people and business. Public Relations, Business are great majors for being a talent agent. Film studies are excellent as well.
Many agencies have student training programs and are approachable, particularly the larger ones like CAA or WMA.
Good luck.
Hi Kenna,
I’m 32 and I work and live in Germany. I’m working for my company (market research) for 9 years now and I asked myself very often if this is the work I would like to do till I retire, and the answer is simple -> NO!
So asked myself again, what would you like to do with your life?
And I arrive at the decistion that the job of a talent agent would be perfect for me.
I want that so badly. And my targeted goal is to work for CAM in London.
But I don’t know how to start this thing. I know that WMA and UTA offer agent training programs. But both companies are in the States and they want people with a degree.
Therefore I don’t believe they will give me a chance to get in this program.
I know that at first sight I don’t have the qualifications for this job. But on the other hand I definitely know that I can make this job as good as someone with a degree, if not even better, because I have many years of practical work experience.
And I can learn everything if they would let me, and I definitely want to learn everything.
Can you give me some advice please?
Thanks so much!
If I was in your shoes, I would contact CMA in London by letter or email.
Your English is a bit rough, so have someone check over your letter before you send it.
Keep everything in the positive light, remember wanting and willing to do a job is over half the battle of getting the job done.
I would perform Informational Interviews of people in the industry and find out more about the job and work. You can google "informational interviews" or check out my book Breaking Into Film which clearly tells you how to do them. They are effective and help with giving you more knowledge about your career path.
Keep in mind your positive outlook and work from there. Film business is about relationships and you need to build relationships.
Hi Kenna,
Thank you so much for your reply and for your helpful advice about the informational interview.
This is really a good idea, and is something I am looking into doing when in London on a course this year.
Im sorry that my mail was so rough! Please accept my apology, I speak several languages and it always seems English grammar is the most difficult!
Best Wishes and thanks again for your help.
Renate
I am glad to be of help. Yes, English as a second langauge can be complicated.
Good luck. I am sure you will do well.
Best,
Kenna
Hello Kenna, I am a freshman in highschool and I was just wondering, are there any schools that would help me the most or any majors i should look into so that I could become a talent agent?
I don't know where you live but I would guess that in your own city you can start helping out a casting director, talent agent by answering phones or making appointments.
People skills are the best to learn. Study literature, film and the fundamentals of creating a story. The more you know about the business the better you will do.
Try to attend a college or university with a film school. Talk to the instructors at the schools and ask them what is best to do or path to follow.
Use your high school services, talk with your counsoler or home room teacher, whoever is suppose to help you plan your higher-education and career choices.
Good luck.
Is there any chance for a grad student from Denmark to get into the mailroom without having any relatives or friends who know someone in the agencies located in LA? What is the optimal move for that particular person to get an interview?
You know that is an excellent question.
The logistics to doing that are available and I suggest researching the information on the Internet or with universities in the states.
Also, contact the career counselor at AFI in Hollywood. She may have the information you need.
Good luck.
I am 2 years removed from high school this june and currently not attending college. what do you suggest is the best way for me to start trying to get into the buisness of being a talent agent?
I am very interested in one day becoming an agent. I'm a senior in highschool in iowa. I want to go to college and major in some type of business, probably management, and possibly a minor or a double major in marketing. Do you think that would put me in the right direction? As of right now I want to go to the university of minnesota in minneapolis and see where that takes me. Is there anything I should be doing now to get a step up towards where I want to be? Should I study films as well in college? Thanks
hi kenna,
i am a sophmore in college and really want to become a talent agent and or work around and in the film business. i am majoring in business marketing and thinking of minoring in film. am i on the right track? and if so what do i need to do to pursue this career?
What are some good schools to pursue a talent agent career? Any that really stick out?
College Wise =)
UCLA. USA, Yale, Harvard
I am currently in my final year of high school. I have been accepted at the University of Calgary where I have applied for a Bachelors of Commerce specializing in marking. After my four year program is complete I plan on moving to LA as i have duel citizenship. After my program I would like to apply for an internship at either William Morris Agency or United Talent Agency, what can I do to better my chances of acceptance in either agency? What will make me stand out? Any further suggestions?
Thank you for your time!
Work with your career counselor at the University to develop a plan to make it happen.
Do agents get to go to the oscars?
When Renee Zellweger won her Oscar, she came with her agent. He sat in the audience right next to her.
I live in Toronto,Ontario and im in my final year of high school. My dream has always been to be a high-profile talent agent. What do i want to be taking in unvirsity and what should i be focusing on to try my hardest to make this happen?
thanks!
Talk with your career counselor and let him or her know your goal is to be a talent agent. Go to a University or College that specializes in film, pr, law and so forth. Get a high GPA and work with your alumini to make contacts in order to network. Get out agencies that offer internships. Be willing to work hard for low pay at first and build your resume.
On average how many years would you work as an intern then an assistant until you become an agent?
Also, what is the job market like right now to be an agent? (in LA for example) are you able to get a job right away or do you need to search around.
Kim,
This would be a great research project for you to do.
Interns can last up to a year, mostly 6 months. But check with each agency you apply and find out from them.
Would majoring in finance, minoring in marketing, and having an internship at a large acting agency be a good start to a career as a acting agent?
Depends where you study.
Would taking a job in NYC (because its easier for me) rather than LA hurt me because im farther away from all the action?
It really depends on what type of agent you want to be.
I want to be a talent agent.....?
Then LA is the place to be. But if you want to cut your teeth in NY that is fine. Best to keep your eye on LA.
So are you saying that it depends where I study to become a talent agent? Could you elaborate a little more on the answer?
I'm going to be attending the University of Michigan in the fall. What would be the best course of action to establish contacts in the industry? Currently I know of nobody in the industry, let alone LA. Also, since U of M is not really a "Hollywood" type of school, what would be the best course of action, major-wise, from Michigan?
I have researched that Richard Lovett, Will Smith's agent (among others), came from the midwest. Since this is my same ordeal, what did he major in, and how did he get that first internship position when he moved out to LA?
I have connections in the biz because several of members of my family are actors (one in particular was Oscar-winning). I don't have the greatest gpa, so I am wondering whether they will even ask about and how much having talent connections can help. Thanks.
Connections open the door and then you have to put on a professional show. You need to work hard and play by the rules. I am sure you will do fine. Good luck.
Hi Kenna, I am interested in becoming a talent (actor) agent. I live in Miami and I am finishing my first year of college. What should I major in to become one? And also are there any possibilites that i can become a successful talent agent without leaving Miami?
I am a firm believer of never say never, but Hollywood is the place to be if you want to be a talent agent.
I highly suggest you meet with your career counselor at the college you are attending and workout plan of action to get where you want to be.
Can you afford housing and food with the salary you will be getting when you start in the mailroom? I will be moving from Montreal to LA in the summer, I have bachelors of commerce and 2 years work experience should I send in my resume or show up in person?
Thanks
You have a lot of good questions. You will need a roomate or rent a room in a home. Network and find someone you can trust. I am sure you can find websites that are safe to network and submit your resume. Take a look at my book, Breaking Into Film, which goes into a great detail about finding work in Hollywood.
I also have some articles a www.movieroar.com about the business of making it in the business. Go there and read them if you don't want to get the book. Good luck.
Is it possible to work at ICM, William Morris or any of the Big 5 without a JD or MBA degree?
Not really. Check out my website www.movieroar.com where some of my earlier posts talk about breaking into film. Good luck.
I'm currently in the military and have a few years left, I'm very interested in becoming a talent agent or manager. I'm located in San Diego and I was wondering what should I familiarize myself with as far as what I need to study, what classes to take as far as college goes and also get on the job training so when I'm finally out of the military I can already have something under my plate instead of starting from ground zero.
Check out my website Movie Roar and go to the much earlier articles that should help you.
which articles specifically?
Ones that talk about getting job in film. You can also look at my book, Breaking into Film.
Hi Kenna, I haven't had the time to get through every post, so I hope that I am not repeating anyone. I am from the Toronto area, and I was wondering if you knew of any specifically reputable agencies located in Ontario. The google search comes up with a variety of agencies and it is difficult to decipher who is legit or not. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Hi Paul,
A legit agency will have a client list and references. Check them out carefully. Make sure you don't have to pay any upfront fees. Be smart and ask positive questions. Good luck.
Hey Kenna,
How necessary is a bachelor of marketing/public relations? I'm studying for my bachelor of accounting/economics, and I'm wondering if it will be useful in getting my foot in the door.
Thanks.
First, it depends on the school you are attending. PR is always a plus.
Kenna,
I've got a BA in History with cognates in German, Southern Studies, and Finance, on top of 6 years of service industry-corporate experience. I sent in my resume to WMA, CAA, Endeavor, ICM and UTA. Their responses were all that I need to get a year of experience in the entertainment industry. Ideas?
WMA is hiring floaters in Nashville so I'm sending my resume there. Of course I'm now sending the resume out to Paradigm, Abrams, and APA as well. What're some other thoughts on getting entry-level experience?
Thanks in advance!
I suggest going to my website and check in the early postings for advise on networking and other activities to get connected up.
Send resumes is a start but doesn't hit the nail.
You can also get my book, Breaking into Film. But the early articles at www.movieroar.com are excellent resources. Good luck.
Thanks for the head's up on the posts. Browsing through those now.
And you'll be pleased to know I ordered your book. The more ideas, the better. Definitley something I'm going to persue until I've exhausted all options...then push it a little more.
Since obviously you have knowledge of the business, how do you think the Morris-Endeavor merger is going to affect the talent rep biz?
I think it was inevitable; some heavy hitters have already left the agency.
Morris has been around for 111 years and will continue to be so no matter what.
The idea of the merger is to shift leverage from movie studios and record labels to artists, actors, writers and directors. I hope that is true.
I've read as much too, in that it is a move to create an atmosphere where the talent, and their agents, have more power at the table.
Seems like Endeavor is coming off as the big winner in the deal, with widespread rumors that Emanuel will be running things, and Wiatt a figurehead. Should be interesting to see where the power ends up, and it WME and CAA can create a real power shift away from studios and management.
Couple of questions, but first, a brief background: Attended a top liberal arts college in the northeast, graduated with a BA in economics with a 3.5, and have been working at a well-known investment bank for the past year. I am leaving to begin at a smaller, lesser-known investment bank that specializes in the media and entertainment industry.
1. You mention work experience in media/entertainment is key to getting into the agency business - would investment banking in the industry count? I realize what I would be doing is much more macro in scale than an actual agency (deals with corporations and the industry as a whole rather than individuals), but I would certainly be in tune with the industry.
2. I have signed on with this M&E investment bank for two years. After the two years, I intend to get my MBA. I have all the stats and experience to get into the top business schools, but what is the best bet? Harvard is #1, but is on the opposite side of the country. Stanford is #2, and it's at least on the west coast, but UCLA is right in the city and is top 15 business school in the country. Assuming admission into all three, which would be my best bet?
3. With three years of high-finance on my resume, two years in the M&E industry as an investment banker, and an MBA from a top business school, how would I fare with my pursuit of a mailroom position at an agency? I have absolutely ZERO connections, unless the business school I go to happens to have a few alums.
4. How tiny is the salary for the first few years? I only ask because going from making $150k+ per year as a 22, 23, 24 year old to the pennies I assume one makes in the mailroom sounds like it could be difficult. Are we talking PENNIES, or is the salary generally in the $40-50k range?
Thanks so much for any help/answers you can give me.
Hi Ryan,
You have a lot of questions, which I suggest going to my website www.movieroar.com and looking through my earlist articles about the business.
I also recommend Harvard, Standford and UCLA in that order. At the universities you will get a lot of those answers from your alumni.
Thanks for the response. So Harvard and Stanford MBA have quite a few alums in the talent agent field?
Just one thing I couldn't find much of: is media & entertainment investment banking enough to be considered past experience in the industry? As I said, I know it's a bit different, but there are quite a few similarities between the fields.
Here's another stupid question. Do you need to really be able to judge an actor's ability to act, i.e. do you need to be good at spotting talent to become a talent agent? Without much thought, one would assume "YES," but it seems that the need for a high business acumen is more important to become a successful talent agent than the ability to spot talent.
Hi, I am a recent graduate from the University of Tampa with a bachelors degree in Communication. I want to eventually work for a talent agency either in NYC or California. I will be starting work in the fall in Tampa at a staffing agency that staffs medical doctors ect. I will be working and living in Tampa for a year or so while I save money and ride out the recession before I jump into my ultimate goal of working for a talent agency. What should I do at this time to work toward that goal?
I just wanted to get your opinion on what my chances would be with my current background. About 7 months ago is when I realized that I wanted to work as a talent agent, this was problematic because I am a senior Sports Management major, with a minor in Marketing with an emphasis in Sales Management. The reason I say this is a problem is because I have not heard of anyone being able to secure a position with an agency with that major. So basically I'm asking how important is someone's major.
While my major might not be perfect I do have some industry contacts so I am hoping that will make up for it. I have completed 4 internships, two with entertainment and sports marketing firms, one with a media company and one sports agency. A lot of these people have contact at the major agencies such as UTA, WMA and CAA. With all those facts what do you think my chances of being accepted into a trainee program would be?
Also do you need expereince after college to be considered for the trainee program at a place like UTA.
Thanks for any help.
Hi Ryan,
I sent you an answer via www.movieroar.com.
Hi, I am a recent graduate from the University of Tampa with a bachelors degree in Communication. I want to eventually work for a talent agency either in NYC or California. I am currently working in Tampa Florida at a staffing agency called K-Force that finds jobs for qualified medical workers. It is a highly respected agency in the staffing world. I will be working and living in Tampa for a year or so while I save money and ride out the recession before I jump into my ultimate goal of working for a talent agency. What should I do at this time to work toward that goal?
I recommend that you read the trades and get familiar with the people who work in the business. If a a production company comes to town, I recommend you hook up and get a temporary job and learn the ropes.
You can also work for a local casting agency, that is legit, get experience that way.
Also, research groups that you can network with in either LA or NYC.
Also, go to www.movieroar.com, particularly the earlier article or first ones and read them, they should help.
Or get my book, Breaking into Film.
Good luck,
Kenna
Thanks Kenna, your book is very intuitive. I dont know if you are familiar with the book The MailRoom by David Rensin but I've beeen reading that as well. Im starting to understand the process of getting a job at a promenant talent agency. So I guess I'm asking what the best thing is to do about the fact that I've currently begun working full time at an very successful professional staffing agency called Kforce in Tampa, FL. I work in the medical department basically being an agent for workers in the medical field for both permenant and part time employment. I want to do this as an introduction to the business world and save money for a bit before getting a job at a big agency. So in order to do that, what do you see as being my next steps?
Thanks a lot I really value your opinion,
Kyle
Hi Kyle,
I suggest working for a casting or talent agency in Tampa Bay, Orlando or Miami. You are talking apple and oranges with the medical and entertainment business.
If you want to grow corn, then work on a farm that grows corn not sunflower seeds.
Hey Kenna, I have to admit, watching the HBO series Entourage has inspired me greatly to become a Talent Agent. I Read most of the article and what some people's paths were. I am going to be a freshman at Western Michigan University next year and I am going to major in business and minor in public relations. I am also going to do a internship if i can get a hold of that. Do you have any other specific instructions on what i should try to do? I have a very very good eye for talent, and i work best with other people so i feel i would excel in this field, i just need some help with it.
Hi Chris,
That's great you want to be a talent agent. I suggest you go to my other site www.movieroar.com and see if you can find more information, as a resource, that can help you there. The very early articles has lots of information about breaking into the business. Good luck.
Hi! I'm living in NYC and would like to eventually be a talent manager. I have an AA degree in dance, and musical theater, and I'm currently taking voice at Julliard. My question is how would I go about braking into management, and what courses/or degrees mite be better for me. I have started managing some friends from school and some which I've met at auditions.I love to help others in succeeding in what they love and being their myself I have a better perspective on things. I have an eye for talent and would like to use my experience and knowledge to help others.Thank you for your time.
Hi Eli,
Couple of items to keep in mind is be professional. I noticed your post had some misspelled words.
Not that I am picky, I just know that in the agent/management field the people are very picky about image.
But I can tell you purpose is there which is really half the battle. You keep that drive and fire, you'll make it.
I recommend you learn about using your Alumi and attend a college that offers the studies you need to make it as an agent/manager.
Internships are great, I recommend, since you are in NY you research and find a firm where you can start working.
At www.movieroar.com, I have some archive articles that offer information on how to go about this or just get my book.
Thanks for asking,
Kenna
I'm 19 years old and from Sweden. I considering studying in USA to become a talent agent. I've read in the comments above that UCLA is the best school if you want to study your way to an agent. But don't you need straight A to get in? If that's true, I don't think I'm going to make it.
I've heard that it's very hard for a person that comes from another country to get in to schools like UCLA, BUT, if you first study at a college you get handled as an american.
So, what should I do? Right now I'm thinking of going to Santa Monica College first, and then try my luck to UCLA.
What subjects should i study in college?
Thanks for your time!
Emil
Just like Emil I am not from the USA and want to be a talent agent.
I am still on what they would call in america "high school"
but I will be graduated in 2 years.
What should I do afterwards?
I'm thinking of going to the UCLA but I guess they are not really fond of foreigners there so what to do?
After that I guess I'll be moving to LA to work in the mailroom, haha.
Anyway I hope someone has time to answer my question, this really looks like my dream job and I'm always willing to work very hard to accomplish what I want.
Thanks in advancem
Lennart
That is great you want to work hard because that is what you will have to do. Keep in mind that if you place a barrier up any where like "it will be hard to get into' then it will be.
The key is to stay up in the tone that is real and conducive to your profession. Be honest and love what you do.
Go to your career counsoler at your high school and ask for help. If that person says you can't do it, then go to someone who can.
Also, you can check out my other website www.movieroar.com go to the earlier, much earlier content about film careers. Use that information. Also, I believe AFI in LA has a foreign study program.
I have a Bachelor's degree and live up in Washington. Relocating to California is not an issue; I have a sister who lives in San Diego. The difficulty, of course, is finding an agency that is hiring and willing to provide me with an interview.
This work can't be too hard. I'm single, have no kids and am willing to do what it takes to be successful in this business, including working 80hr weeks.
Yes, sounds like you don't have very many barriers. Go for it. at www.movieroar.com the early articles my help you get where you want to go.
Kenna, I casually stumbled upon your article and it happens to be exactly what I had been looking for the entire time. Thank you so much for all the information. If you don't mind, I have a few questions!
I am from Michigan and will be starting my junior year in a few weeks. I am majoring in Marketing and considering a dual major in Communications as well. I am currently finishing up a summer internship I had with a small branding, marketing & advertising firm. I am hoping you could give me a little criticism here. How does my major and internship sound? Do you think they are applicable?
Also, I have read of the importance of having these "internships" at a large agency. Being out of state, I doubt I am unaware of all these agencies in LA. Could you give me a short list of agencies you might recommend I look into? Traveling to LA is not a problem. Would you say there is a decent chance a college undergrad could obtain one of these internships, or are they usually awarded to a college graduate? Finally, how long do these internships typically last in your experience?
Thank you in advance for all the help. I greatly appreciate it!
Hi Ryan,
You have a lot of reseach to do. I would love to answer all these question for you but you need pull up your boot straps and find out for youself.
I do have a book called Breaking into Film that you could get and read. Or find at a local library. There is a chapter on Informational Interviews where you go to the professional you are interested in an ask these type of questions. Hollywood Creative Director is an excellent source for listings as well.
Education does play a role in highing because it is a way to get the door open. There are othe ways as well. But once you have that door open you need to show your stuff.
The major sounds okay. You might want to minor in business. Or take some business classes. Use you alumni and career counselor as well. The career counselor is a service the university offers. Use it.
Again, do you research, do your homework.
Hi, I'm 15 years old and very ambitious on doing anything at this age to become a talent agent or anything in that field of business in the future. I was wondering if you have any suggestions. I work for a minor baseball team and I was wondering if there is anything there I could do that would help me.
Make contacts, work hard, set a good example and when you move on ask for a reference letter for future jobs.
Study and learn everything you can. An excellent video the help you become proficient is at www.twth.com -- click on the one about Be Competent. Watch how hard the young girl works to Be Competent at fencing.
When it gets time for college, is there any colleges you would recommend for this field of expertise?
UCLA, NYC, USC, Harvard and so forth.
Do you of any talent agencies in Portland, Oregon?
Marketing is a business degree.
@Brody, you can check by calling their chamber of commerce or doing a google search. Make sure they are legit, though.
@Charles, thanks for the clarification.
I Go to Oregon State University Majoring in Business Management, I want to be a Talent Rep. and I am considering Grad school What would be the best choice in grad School to persue this career ?
Business law or Media Communications.
Hey Kenna i was doing some research on becoming a talent agent and how to get in and stumbled upon this article. Reading most of the questions and answers have helped a lot but i still have a couple outstanding ones like will i be able to transfer from a college or university in Canada to one in LA or would i be better off moving to LA and going to school there? and if i study here in Canada what should major in to get into a school in LA.
Thanks for your time.
You can't go wrong with business or business law. As far as transfers are concerned you should check with the college or university and find out their policies.
If you want to work in Hollywood, I recommend going to school at UCLA or USC. The Alumni is the best for networking.
Hello Kenna,
First of I would like to thank you for all of your advice to everyone here on this page. By just reading it all I have already learned a great deal about the profession.
I am going into grade 12 in a small town about 2 hours north of Toronto. I recently decided that being a Talent Agent might be something I want to do with my life. Would going to UCLA for a Business Major, and then get in at a Talent Agency as in intern be in my best interest? Or would you say going to U of T and get my foot in the door in Toronto, then maybe later on taking the plunge and moving to Hollywood, be a wiser choice?
Thanks
If you can get into UCLA, great, go for it. But if you have some thoughts on staying in Canada and going to U of T then that's fine too.
Make sure you research and find out how the Alumni networks and the career center helps you acheive your goals in the biz. The competition is fierce, so you might as well plan and keep to your plan.
Thank you very much!
How would I go about researching how the Alumni networks and the career centre helps you achieve your goals in the biz? If you could explain that too it would be much appreciated, don't fully understand.
Thanks.
Contact the college or university that you are interested in attending and ask them to help you with this. Alumni is defined by Wiki -- An alumni association is an association of graduates (alumni) or, more broadly, of former students. In the United Kingdom and the United States, alumni of universities, colleges, schools (especially independent schools), fraternities, and sororities often form groups with alumni from the same organization. These associations often organize social events, publish newsletters or magazines, and raise funds for the organization. Many provide a variety of benefits and services that help alumni maintain connections to their educational institution and fellow graduates.
Additionally, such groups often support new alumni, and provide a forum to form new friendships and business relationships with people of similar background.
Alumni associations are mainly organised around universities or departments of universities, but may also be organised among students that studied in a certain country. In the past, they were often considered to be the university's or school's old boy network (or old boys network). Today, alumni associations involve graduates of all age groups and demographics.
In Anglo-Saxon countries, membership of an alumni association often goes without saying. In continental Europe, alumni associations are getting more and more popular as universities receive less money from governments and depend more on networking within civil society for funding.
Alumni associations are often organized into chapters by city, region, or country.
Hi Kenna
i am currently debating what to major in to increase my chances of landing a job at an agency like wma or uta
would it be better to get a bachelors in business or communications - (public relations and what not)
Business first, then media communications.
I saw a street performer (singer) today that i think is INCREDIBLE and want to contact him to find out if he has any sort of agent. I have a BA in communications and spent years in sales. I am an incredible negotiator and very resourceful and would love to represent talent like what I saw today... booking shows, getting this guy exposure, etc...where do I begin? Does anyone find the band first and then learn the ropes of booking shows, promotion, etc.?
You can do that...where you live or work is what matters. What is his specialty? Name it and sell it to the clubs or what have you.
Remember to have a firm agreement in writing, when he starts to cross that chasm of success, he may leave you for a bigger and somethings better agency.
Kenna,
I just recently came across this article. I'm a 17 year old living in Texas where I have just started my senior year in high school. For quite a few years now, I have been dying to become a talent agent(actors). But here is my question to you:
If I have NO contacts or a social network, how do I go about creating/finding a network or contact?
Any advice would help tremendously.
Also, if it would be possible, I would love to talk to you more about this. If you are available via email or any other communication stream, it would be a big help!
Thanks
Joseph
I don't know where you are in Texas. But search for casting directors or talent agents in your area and "volunteer." Show your professionalism and network that way. Even volunteer for a community theater company, helping to promote their performances with the media. You can email me through hubages if you like.
Thanks Kenna,
And if it helps, I am in Keller, Texas, which is close to the DFW area.
Thanks again.
It's a big enough city to network. I am sure they have casting directors and agencies that you can "volunteer."
Hi Kenna... ok well i really hope you can answer this. I am Really interested in making it in this profession. I want to try to get an internship this summer at CAA in NYC. Is that a long shot? I'd rather have that on my resume then any small time agencies. Plus i figured that if i work real hard for them and keep going there throughout my college carreer they might view me as a hard, outgoing worker. I view life as one chance and one chance only to succeed. either way I cant really travel too far outside of new jersey due to the money aspect. and CAA is an excellent agencie to get into. I'll do pretty much anything to get into CAA. Im going to go to school to major in public relations, take some psychology courses, and business or business law. (bachelors Degree)... thank you in advance for the advice! greatly appreciated!
Sounds like you have the right plan. It's only a long-shot if you think it is, Go for it. Business is the right major as is public relations. Just stay away from psychology, it's not an exact science, is full of mumbo jumbo. If your really want to understand the mind and people read Dianetics or watch the new Dianetics DVD. Be smart.
Thank you for the advise and i defanitly will get that book and DVD... You're exactly right, I just wanted to do psychology because i thought it would help me to better understand the human mind and the way diffrent people respond to diffrent types of offers and different types of people. But i will stay away from it if you suggest... it is a tough class anyway.
Great! I am sure you will do well. Stay in touch.
Hey im sorry one more thing... while i was researching this carreer, i heard about a movie that was recomended to watch about this profession and I can't seem to find it anywhere! If you know which movie I'm talking about please let me know... what is the name of your book? I would really like to Buy a copy! Thanks!
I can't think of the name of the movie. If it comes to me, I will post it. The name of my book is Breaking into Film, Make Your Career a Blockbuster.
I want to become a talent agent but want to get a degree in music management and merchandising, would this degree be a good path to becoming a talent agent?
For music? Yes.
Kenna,
Everyone should be extremely grateful for you taking the time out to answer all of the questions that were asked.
I do plan on purchasing your book and look forward to reading it. If the questions I ask are addressed in the book, please let me know. I am a recent graduate from Fordham University, and have moved to NYC permanently, working in Sales. I work in the copier/printer industry, which is as competitive as any sales industry in the Big Apple. I enjoy what I do, and have been told I will be extremely successful. I would love to carry this over into a manager/agent career. The main question I have, other than places to look into breaking into the industry, may be complicated. I have always been one to take notice of talent; whether it be musical, athletic, so on...I have three friends in particular where I see them becoming successful. One friend is a former cast member of Diddy's Making the Band 4. Another is a relatively unknown band just out of highschool that could play with any band on the radio. The third is a former 2-time National Wrestling Champion and current MMA prospect. He has shown the most interest in me managing him, since we are good friends. I realize that when established, it is best to focus on one industry, but for the time being, if I were to learn the trade, would I be best served to acquire any talent I could until I had the resources to focus on one specific area? Also, would this be a different type of talent agent rather than just a musical or athletic agent? Any help is appreciated.
That's great you can spot talent and have a ability to succeed at sales. Sales is a tough gig and it takes a lot of energy and charisma to stay in sales for a long time.
MMA is a different medium to work with, but that could be changing. For example, Gina Carano just signed a film gig Knockout. Carano is a popular MMA fighter. If you look at her representation, the list is long.
But it might be wise to do your homework in this area (MMA), and find out how these talents are represented.
The other two talents seem like you understand their angle.
You could represent all three, but will have to decided sooner or later which medium to follow.
Hi Kenna
I'm 18 and am currently studying Performing Arts at A-Level in the United Kingdom. Just a quick question; for my Performing Arts coursework, I have to research talent agents, and I was wondering if you know the average wage of a talent agent in the UK? If you don't, do you know any websites that I could find out? It would be really appreciated!!
Rhiannon
mandy.com - http://www.mandy.com/1/services.cfm?rz=1&zb=0&zn=4 is your best bet for online. You can also check the online trades: Variety and Hollywood Reporter -- they have international listings.
Hey !
I'm 19 and i study: negotiation and relationship with customer in France. I will probably go to Australia to have a Bachelor of marketing, and after that i really want to move in LA to be an Actor and musician agent/manager.
What kind of studies i can do ?
Thanks !
First, based on what I see in your ability to communicate through the written word, you need to take a very basic grammar and communications course.
In this business, communication is key.
Hello Kenna,
I came across this thread during a google search and I am extremely impressed at the time you have taken to answer all of these questions and grateful for the insight provided! I will most definitely check out your book!
I have my own law practice and am in the process of starting a talent management company (athletics and film). I know athletes working in professional sports so that is where I thought I was going to start my agent business until recently I was contacted by an old friend. I learned he has begun writing screenplays (four total) and actually won some awards for his recent work. He is in need of an agent and I am in need of talent so it should be a perfect fit!
I have looked at your site www.movieroar.com and accessed several archives from 2008. Specifically I have read, the following posts: “film job leads,” “working with an agent” and “important definitions to sell your screenplay or idea.” Are there any other specific archives you think would be helpful?
Do you have any more specific guidance on how to attempt to sell a script? I know very few people out in LA but have already sent requests to those folks inquiring as to any contacts/information they can provide. I would greatly appreciate any insight or contacts from you?
And finally, I actually liked the question from a previous poster (despite the misspelled words and bad grammar) who essentially asked for a point in the right direction as to who should one contact when trying to sell a script?
Thanks in advance for your response!
Mitchell
Hello Mitchell,
Here are some links let me know if this helps. http://www.wow-womenonwriting.com/8-donienelson.ph
http://www.screenwritersutopia.com/modules.php?nam
Also, in my book I talk about networking, the business deals in relationships. I don't know where you live but you need to start building relationships with people in Hollywood. That might mean taking trips to Hollywood and meeting people for lunch.
Check with Peter Miller, he is based in NYC. I don't have contact information, but he may be helpful.
Hey I'm a junior in high school from around the Chicago area and my question is how would I be able to be a successful agent living in Chicago? I want to move to L.A. (I was born there and I have relatives that live there). So I guess my question is how realistic is my shot at becoming an agent because of my location of residency? There's no real big agencies in Chicago is there?
The key is to do your homework. Open up the Chicago yellow pages and see what is listed. Better do a google search regarding "talent agencies in Chicago". If you do your homework, you will discover that quite a bit of talent came from the Chicago area. John Cusack, his sister Joan, the late John Hughes, Gary Sinise and so forth. Perhaps you can make your homework part of a school project and get school credit. Good luck.
Kenna,
I am 18 years old and currently attending Cal State Fullerton, hoping to have a future career in the film industry as a talent agent. What are your recommendations for a major/ minors if I would like to have a Business major? In order to have more chance at succeeding to be a talent agent, would attending Grad School to obtain a master's degree help a lot? Or is there good chance without it?
Hi,
Getting a master's degree is very helpful because it shows you can get things done. You will still need to prove yourself by starting as an assistant.
I really recommend that you meet with a career counselor at Cal State Fullerton and figure out your plan of action. Business Majore is an excellent idea as is Media Communication. Good luck .
Hey Kenna, how you doing?
I had been reading some of the comments you have made and they helped but none of them really describe my situation; therefore I hope you can provide me with some insight.
Currently I am a senior in Boston, my major is international business and minor in hospitality (not like it makes a difference). I always wanted to be in that environment and after recently watching Entourage I was able to find out that I would love to be a talent agent. I am planning on moving to L.A. when I graduate to pursue the talent agent career.
I am aware that it is extremely important to have good networks in order to enter that market and have potential. I already started asking some friends if they have some contacts I could use.
Thank you for taking the time to go over this.
Sincerely,
Matias
Hi Matias,
Yes, your situation is unique, but changing careers as one goes through college is quite common. What is it about being an Agent that interests you?
You have to answer that question honestly and go from there. It is a business and that requires work and hard work.
International studies is a good major these days.
Thank you for the prompt response.
I always dreamed to be in the entertainment environment but did not know how. I tried acting and modeling and came to the conclusion that I did not enjoy it very much. I always liked to create something from 0 and make it grow (like from a regular actor make him grow into a movie star). It might not sound very good, but I enjoy managing people. Interacting with people is something that I also enjoy a lot and have good social skills. I am a really hard worker and I had been dreaming about being in that environment since I was like 11. I am extremely excited that two weeks ago I found out what I would really want to do as a career.
I am not exactly sure if that was the type of answer you or I were looking for.
Yes, that is the answer.
So keep that dream and work toward it. There are some articles in my early, early www.movieroar.com site that talk about breaking into film. Take a look at those and see if they help.
Thank you very much for your time and I hope you do not mind if I post a comment here in the near future. I will definitely check out those articles you told me about.
Thank you once again
Kenna,
I live outside of NYC an hour by train. I have a strong desire to become an agent trainee. When agencies look at my resume, are they put off by the fact that I do not live right in NYC? If not, what more can I do to stand out and show that I am highly interested in this career?
Thank you.
If you take the train in everyday to work, so what. It's only a problem for them if you make it a problem.
To stand out requires a resume that shows them that you are outgoing, work hard, a team player and you are sincere. Excellent communications skills are a must -- both verbally and written.
If you take the train in everyday to work, so what. It's only a problem for them if you make it a problem.
To stand out requires a resume that shows them that you are outgoing, work hard, a team player and you are sincere. Excellent communications skills are a must -- both verbally and written.
Thank you for the quick response. Currently, I work in marketing and advertising and had an internship at a PR agency. For awhile I've wanted to work in talent management at an agency, but had to take these jobs because of the economy. My resume obviously contains the skills of marketing/advertising, but should I try and wow the HR depts in my email when applying? Thank you.
Sure.
I'm currently a senior in high school and am looking to attend Penn State next year and follow up with my graduate work at UCLA or NYU. I'm considering declaring my major of communications arts and sciences and a minor in public relations. What's your take on this major/minor combination? Also, I have an uncle who's represented by CAA and I'm hoping that will give me a better chance at getting an internship there after my freshman year of college along with maybe acquiring a job after college. What's your take on my plan so far?
Sounds like you have it mapped out well. Combined majors is an excellent idea. Just make sure you keep you grades up and stay in communication with your uncle.
Hey I'm currently a Senior in a University here in Miami, FL. I've got a Bachelors in Biology and about to get another in Computer Science. Is tehre anyway way i can become an Agent without going back to school for public relations or some other degree you have told others to get. Also i saw anotehr person say william morris has a intership but you need a 4 year degree does it matter in what? And I know miami is big but would it be better to move to another city like NY or LA?
It's best to have a degree relating to the field you are intereted in pursuing. I degree in PR, Business would be a wise choice.
So you suggest me going back to school for a PR or business degree?
Thanks for all your help
Matt
Yes, PR or Business would be a wise move.
My story is a little different. I am currently an attorney working for a patent firm in Los Angeles. I have always wanted to become an agent. I feel like I have the communication skills and training to be successful as an agent. I, however am not entirely familiar with the ins and outs of the business and I'm somewhat afraid of pulling the trigger on the career move. I'm not exactly sure where to begin. I'm not sure if being on someone's desk for minimum wage is something I'm willing to do. (financially that is. I have no problem working hard). I'm contemplating starting an agency with a partner, but I know there will be a growth process. What is your recommendation?
Yes, your story is different. Perhaps you could go at it in an indirect route meaning: film business is filled with technical aspects of the business such as James Cameron's new 3D tecnhology or Pixar's software for rendering computer generated characters and so forth.
These technologies need to be patented, right? It's a foot in the door. Perhaps you good go this route and become involved with an agency that way.
The plus-point is that you are in LA and you are an attorney.
You could cold call or network your way to an agency and ask for the possibility of a career change and see what they would have to offer.
Or, you must know someone in the business as well, whom you can inquire.
The key is to not forego your current career, but map out a way to make the change logical. You will probably have to burn the midnight oil or work extra on weekends until you have mastered the route to change your career to something more fulfilling.
Try finding attorneys who are in the business. I am sure if you googled film groups relating to attorneys you will find them.
Another idea is that Hollywood is full of consultants, who help shape people careers. You could contact one of them and pay them an hour or two to help you formulate a logical way to make it. Check out the Beverly Hills Playhouse, they may have some resources -- even though they are an acting facility, I have heard they have some solid contacts to help people in the business.
Hey, i would love to be Ari Gold...WAIT i am Ari Gold...lmfao
This page is very helpful to me i cant believe i found it on a google search.
So anyways im a student in high school living in canada, im almost certain on path to being a talent agent. however im deciding whether ill be into representing actors and actresses, or representing sports players. So im trying to read as much information as possible about being a talent agent and ive concluded that networking is VERY important. I do have some things lined up that will hopefully help me, but im looking for more tips on how to network.
However i do plan to move on to university and i still trying to decide what major will benefit me most. If i plan to major in something like public relations, or business econ...could i also take some courses in entertainment and media law, even if it isnt in the area of PR and business econ?
I will visit my career center soon as well, what would be some great starting questions?
Thanks for all the help!
Jordan,
Thanks for reading all the postings. Yes, networking is important. Since you are in High School, I recommend that you perform Informational Interviews. What is Informational Interviews? That's when you set up and interview with a professional of your field of interest -- talent agent.
I am going to plug my book because I have a whole chapter on this subject because it is so important. It's key to breaking into the business. Try googling informational interviews and see what you come up with -- that's were the career center should be able to help you out.
Good luck.
Kenna,
how you doing? I read the articles you told me to read and helped. I want to work as an intern (not getting paid) during January in a talent agency in LA and I am thinking about calling sometime this week, depending on which day I feel prepared. I am thinking about calling the largest talent agencies... any suggestions on what approach to use or how I should handle it?
Thank you very much for your time
Sincerely,
Matias
Great for going through the articles. In my book, I talk about writing a script for "cold calling". Then, practice before you call. Although it's called "cold calling" you are actually prepared.
Try practicing with a friend, someone you trust and know will help you.
Also, in my book (don't mean to plug), I write about keeping track of who you call, follow ups and thank you letters.
Keep in mind this is your start, start it off in a positive way -- keep excellent notes of who you call and be honestly upbeat and interested.
Hi Kenna,
I'm 24 years old and want to become a movie talent agent. I took Business Management in College but had to drop out. After dropping out I started selling cars. I've been in sales for four years. Does this experience help me out? Also, I live close to Boston do you know what I should search for to start.
I don't want to dampen your excitement or goal to be a talent agent. I recommend doing a search in Boston and seeing what comes up. Business is a good degree for the biz.
i live in illinois and interested in becoming a talent agent, and im also a junior in high school. what classes should i take in college?
i live in illinois and interested in becoming a talent agent, and im also a junior in high school. what classes should i take in college?
Check with Columbia University, I am sure they have a program and can guide you to get your degree in business, Pr or Marketing.
Hey,
i live in new jersey but i want to move out to california and become a talent agent, im 21 years old and plan on going back to college what should i focus on to accomplish my goal i wanna rep high profile celebs as well as actors in TV and movies
o yea is it better to live in hollywood or los angelas and what are strong agencies to look into
Business major and/or Public Relations, film study as minor, business law is a great major.
Do your homework first. You should be able to discover the top agencies on your own. CCA WM UTA are some. I gave you the abbreviations, now go find them and get in commuincation.
Hi Kenna,
I am so glad I found this page to help me answer my questions. I am currently a business major and freshman at Merrimack College in MA. I was wondering whether or not I should change my major to Communications because my school does have a PR course in that as well. I just want to figure out a right career move in order to pursue my dreams of becoming a talent agent. anything else I should do? or NOT do?
I would go with Business Law and Communications Minor, start networking now, doing as much research as possible. All class assignments or research papers, gear them towards finding out about talent agencies or the film business. Don't go the easy route with rote learning, apply what you learn and see how you can use what you learn now towards your career choice. Study with a purpose, be there and play an important role, help others and be honest with yourself and others. I am sure you will do well.
Thanks for responding so quickly. Unfortunately they don't have business law as a major at my college. I am currently a Business Marketing major, perhaps minor in communications?
Sounds like a plan.
I am in high school right now and plane on majoring in marketing and minoring in public relations. when im out of college i plan on moving to LA and doing an internship. is this a good route and am i studying the right things in college?
Business law is a good choice with a minor in pr. Film studies is a wise choice, but perhaps this can be an elective course that you can mention on your resume.
Personally, I would contact a large agency and see if they have an HR department that can assist you in your career choices. Since you are a high school student they maybe more apt to oblige your request. Good luck.
The school i plan on attending doesnt offer businees law but i will minor in film studies. is there any other course i could major in?
Also what would be a good college choice in illinois?
Columbia Universtity is a great choice. Media Communications is another great class to take.
Hi I live in Vancouver, Canada and I want to become an Talent agent for actors, what would you suggest the steps I take?
Hi I live in Vancouver, Canada and I want to become an Talent agent for actors, what would you suggest the steps I take?
Hi Trent,
What I suggest is read the postings on this page, it will give you an excellent idea. Next, go to www.movieroar.com and go to the much earlier postings that discuss breaking into film as a career.
Then, if you have any questions, please post them and I will respond. Good luck.
Hi Trent,
What I suggest is read the postings on this page, it will give you an excellent idea. Next, go to www.movieroar.com and go to the much earlier postings that discuss breaking into film as a career.
Then, if you have any questions, please post them and I will respond. Good luck.
Hi, I live in Georgia and go to kenesaw state university and was wondering if I could get a career started here in Georgia in the agent field without having to move just yet in other words are there any good opurtunities in this field here in ga?
I would check around Atlanta and check with your career center too.
Is it possible to gain the experience I would near here(in ga) then move somewhere else when I'm ready?
check the yellow pages for agencie or casting director companies and see what is out there. RESEARCH!
Hi I am in college studying to get my BA in business economics and was wondering how competitive is it to land an internship at the larger agency in LA?
Very competitive.
Hi Kenna, a couple things
1) How can I buy your book?/Were you a talent agent?
2) I am doing a research paper in my college writing class. The topic is a career that you want, and I obviously want it to be a talent agent. I would need to interview someone (via e-mail or something), hence my first question.
3) I just ordered a copy of "The Mailroom" by David Rensin, was wondering if you had heard about it, somebody recommended it to me
thank you
-Carla
Carla,
You can get the book from me if you can't get it at Amazon or another book store online.
No, I was not a talent agent.
I suggest looking locally and then emailing a top agency to see if they have a person assigned to this type of interview.
I have heard a little bit about The Mailroom, I am sure if someone recommended it, it must be worth the read. Why was it recommended to you?
Ok thank you I will find it online. Hopefully somebody will be able to help me out with the interview. Do you suggest I contact a top agency for this type of project (william morris, etc.) or a local one?
A friend recommended it to me, he had read it before and said it was a good read and got into detail such as what it was like working from the bottom up a.k.a the mailroom.
thanks
-Carla
Hi,
I'm currently a freshman in high school and I was wondering what the best college you would suggest going to is (in order to be a film agent). And what are some top agencies I should look into in the California area?
UCLA, USC, Harvard, Yale, Princeton ...
CAA, Morse, UA IMC ...
Thanks a lot. Majors and Minors?
Business Law or Business management, public relations, media relations, media communications
arthur erasmi says:
2 years ago
i would like to be an actors agent