Insect Or Spider Or WHAT?
64Insect? Spider? Insect? Spider?
We love our off grid acreage in Cochise County, Arizona. Where else could you find a spider or insect or WHATEVER IT IS that you've never even HEARD of before? Just five days ago, Pam and I spotted the wildest bit of wildlife we'd ever seen. It looked like a bit of fast moving dandelion fluff, sort of a mini-cotton ball with legs. The critter was fast. Traveling mostly over open, bare ground, it eventually moved into a clump of bunchgrass and, after a while, disappeared from view.
In the meantime, I'd been on my feet, out front of the camp trailer, hollering for Pam to get the camera while I kept an eye on this alien from Planet Dandelion. She did get the camera to me in time. Not in time to catch the beastie in the open, but at least quickly enough to snap a few shots before it disappeared entirely.
Here are the few shots of that particular individual. If any reader knows what it is, please let me know! (And no, this is not a hoax put together with household lint and/or PhotoShop. I don't even have PhotoShop.)
Note: We're not sure just how many legs this thing has--there are indications of legs in the photos, we think, but the count remains in question. Eight would mean spider, obviously, and six would mean insect, but those long whitish "hairs" provide an amazing amount of camouflage. As for other aids to identification, it does look to have a narrow waist like spiders do, but then again, so do many insects.
Critter Number Two
Time wounds all heels, as they say. Or something like that. I hadn't thought about the Mutated Dandelion Fluff for a while, at least a couple of days due to having plenty on my plate, beginning with Pam's doctor related problems. Late this afternoon, a second Creature From Planet Cotton Ball grabbed my attention by both ears once again.
Fortunately, this time around I had the camera in my pocket. I was just returning from a brief walk around a portion of our property. Suddenly, skittering about on one of the numerous patches of bare ground scattered throughout stands of mesquite and bunchgrass, a second little hairy white monster showed its stuff. Again, that little thing--maybe three quarters of an inch long at most, maybe no more than half an inch--was fast. The pictures of Individual #2 (shown below) are mostly blurrier than those of the first specimen. This is due to the extra turn of speed displayed by #2: Where #1 would pause for long seconds between short dashes of a foot or two at a time, today's mini-monster sprinted from place to place almost nonstop.
What stops were made, such as one near the entrance to an anthill, suggested hunting behavior to the naked eye. No single stop lasted for more than a second or two, then off again to the races. It was a super challenge to find it in the viewfinder and ten times as hard to keep it there. Most of the shots were taken hastily in an effort to get something recorded. Even so, blurry or not, the photos were worth taking. For one thing, the legs show more clearly than they do on #1. Can't see eight of 'em, possibly eliminating spiders from consideration...but I'm not sure I can count six, either, so is it an insect? Really?
You may ask why I've repeatedly called this thing a "monster". There's a reason: It broadcasts a sense of menace I feel strongly. Pam feels it as well. Although neither specimen has shown the slightest interest in being aggressive toward humans, I would definitely not want to meet up with one were it to be the size of, oh, say, a German Shepherd...let alone an African lion. It would not surprise us in the least to discover the thing was so venomous that a single contact with one of those long white hairs could kill a battalion of combat hardened soldiers.
Or maybe not. In any case, we do most sincerely hope our readers can help identify this Arizona Alien.
Thanks for reading,
Ghost32
Alien Individual Number Two
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Dori, that's what WE'D like to know! On the plus side, just came across a site that specializes in identifying North American bugs. Am in the process of registering there, and you can post photos with ID requests. BUT: Found several other "looks like cotton" critters already on the site so far, and except for one that seems pretty clearly to be a "hairy moth", nobody seems to know much more than I do at this point. But, wow, are we curious....
It looks very much like a caterpillar to me! You can see its body as it curls up. Possibly in the Tiger Moth family - many of them a very furry and some are known as "Wooly Bears."
Bard, I know what you mean; the two individuals I've observed to date can be VERY confusing to watch. Pretty sure they're not caterpillars, though. If you take a gander at the lower (admittedly very blurry) photos, you can see the legs are very long and look downright deadly. They're also very fast when they want to be, a lot faster than any caterpillar I've ever seen.
Wooly Bear caterpillars are certainly cool, and people in Montana where I grew up sometimes claimed they could predict how tough a winter would be by looking at the Wooly Bear's fuzz--the longer it was, the tougher the winter would be.
Not until after this Hub was written did I realize one additional thing: Seeing them in life, their movement pattern absolutely resembles that of a FLY, albeit a mighty big one. At any rate, I've found a website, bugguide.net, hosted by the University of Iowa, that looks promising as a resource for someone positively identifying the thing eventually. Or not. There are other cottony bugs on the site that likewise seem to be resisting identification by the membership.
Hello; I too have a puzzle in terms of what might be a spider! I live in Payson, AZ., within the last week, I have killed two critters exactly alike. Both about 3.5" in diammeter on the outside of the body and legs. The body is about 0.22" in diammeter, the smaller head, 0.12" in diammeter and clearly sports fangs. The legs are a good 3" long, all six = 6 of them, three on each side!!! A rough grey in color. The critter seems to be Very Wary and demonstrates a modicum of intelligence, in that it can be herded but not caught by hand! Very spider like characteristics but it clearly is Not a spider from only having 6 legs!!! What the hell is it???!
Yours from the pictures, appears to be a spider and I count 8 legs! There are spiders that grow a dense hair like covering that I have run across down in Panama and Costa Rica in the past. Also, some rather large spiders do Run Very Fast! I had one on the property that looked like a Wolf Spider but apparently wasn't, it surprised me when I tried to corner it in the garage and it ran right away from me out the door! Very fast indeed!
Also about 3 to 5 years ago, I came out one morning to find an interesting spider on the side door of my F150 truck! Very unusual and beautiful at the same time. A solid green in color, long legs, a subdime shaped body with a smaller head with clear fangs, the legs were very long compared to the body, the diammeter of the overall size was about 3 to 4" in size. And, had a nice sheen to its green color! I have Never seen a spider like this in my life, I brought my wife out to see it, she looked at it and headed in the opposite direction! I couldn't find a jar to put it in and when I came back with a small plastic container to put it in, it was gone! And, I haven't seen another one to date! Also, my firewood pile sports some super sized Centipedes too! One damn near got me while I was trying to get it for a show and tell. Measured about 10 to 12 inches in length! As big as those that I used to shake out of my pants down in Costa Rica, Columbia and Panama! Nasty damn things! They bite on one end and sting on the other! regards, R. E. Adams, physicist, Payson, AZ. CAS333@juno.com
Wow. Cool Comment; thanks. (You can keep the big centipedes.)
On a bug website, we did finally get an idea on our "fuzzy" shown above. Despite the appearance of 8 legs, it really only has six--some of the hairy bristle thingies make the legs super hard to count accurately at times. Turns out it is what is commonly called a "velvet" ant".
But just to make things a little more confusing, the velvet ant is not even an ant--it's a form of wasp which is a parasite to another wasp type. The fuzzy ones we see on the ground are wingless females with very strong exoskeletons and a "mule killer" of a sting (or so we've read). The males fly but have no stingers, and I wouldn't know one of them on sight.
They apparently look so remarkable in order to advertise to all potential predators, "You don't wanna mess with me, buddy!"
Well, I counted 8 legs, not sure if there are more or not. Try to catch one and show it to a local expert and see if you can find out what da heck that thing is. It has a slight possibility of being a caterpillar but it is highly unlikely. In my years of animal studies I have never seen anything like this, except for caterpillars and some bizarre spiders that live on the other side of the world.
Yoda, appreciate the Comment but am not about to follow the advice. The velvet ant has way too much of my respect as a miniature venomous armored tank. Some of those eight legs you're counting are, I believe, actually deceptive hair/bristle configurations. Also, I've been scornful toward most so called entomologists ever since an experience in Montana in 2003, about which I really ought to write a Hub....
Besides which, they're our friends, and it's really hard to justify enclosing your friends in glass bottles against their will....
It appears, to me, to have three body parts, and that would put it into the category of insects. It does look very much like the velvet ant.
Thanks, Ivorwen--we're satisfied as to the identity at this point. We've seen half a dozen of them, though none since August.













fortunerep says:
6 months ago
what is that thing?
lol, dori