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Hedge Funds, No Thanks!--The hedge fund apocaplypse is here

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By Ralph Deeds



Robert Moffat, IBM senior VP arrested
Robert Moffat, IBM senior VP arrested

1-29-09 JP Morgan Chase sued for putting clients into Madoff funds

 JPMorgan Chase is under the gun of lawsuits from European clients who were put into hedge funds that invested their money in accounts managed by Bernie Madoff. The European clients lost $50 million and are claiming JPMorgan Chase failed to do due dilligence on their investments with Maddoff. And, worse, they are claiming that JP Morgan Chase, based on inside information not disclosed to its clients, pulled it's own money out of Madoff shortly before the shit hit the fan, so to speak. Here's a link to an article in today's NYTimes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/business/29madoff.html?ref=business

Some Good Advice for Ordinary Investors

 12-12-08 NY Times--Ron Lieber and Tara Siegel Bernard offer some good advice for investors.

5 PERCENT--Any investment has at least a remote possibility of going to zero or close to it. But when you're dealing with hedge funds and other exotic fare, the risks can be bigger, for reasons like leverage and strategy and lying and stealing.

HUMILITY--Investing, in general, requires humility. Few people have enough of it. It is the reason so few people put most of their money in index funds which track various asset classes rather than trying to pick winners. One probelm with hedge funds is that they appeal to all the wrong instincts. They are for the privileged. Investors need to have a minimum net worth to qualify. In case of the money managed by Madoff many people seemed to have gotten in by belonging to the right country club. All too often rich individuals make easy marks because the pitch is, "You're special, you can get something that other people can't get.

But you probably aren't special--You probably are hearing about the second or third or fourth tier ideas in the world of alternative investments. Be honest with yourself: If you are in on them, how special could they really be, given the enormous demand for truly unique investment opportunities.

SMARTS--You may be rich and you may be smart. But smart about this sort of investing? Not so much.

RESEARCH--Dong your homework on a sophisticated investment opportunity is not easy. Your financial planner may not have the time or the skills to do a thorough investigatin either.

SECRETS--One hard part about investing in hedge funds is that some of the most successful ones will not say much abo9ut how they work. If they disclose too much about their tactics, others will copy them and their investors will be hurt.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/13/business/yourmoney/13money.html?_r=1&ref=business

Hedge Funds? No thanks! 3-1-07

We're hearing a lot about hedge funds these days. Last year SEC Chairman Donaldson, former CEO of Donaldson, Lufkin, Jenrette advocated minimal regulations for hedge funds. This year, SEC Chairman Cox and Treasurer Henry Paulson have decided the public interest would not be served by subjecting hedge funds to federal oversight, despite the fact that the pension funds of many ordinary Americans are increasingly being invested in hedge funds.

So far as I've been able to determine there is no accurate measure of hedge fund performance because of the absence of reporting requirements and because the performance of the unsuccessful ones that are dissolved and disappear are not included in the statistics that are available. Hedge funds offer the promise of higer than market returns at the price of higher than market risk. The typical management fees are 2% of the funds invested plus 20 percent of the profits. The managers, however, don't suffer any of the losses. They come out of the investors'  hides. This fee arrangement provides and incentive for hedge fund managers to put investors' money into high risk ventures in order to maximize their return. It also provides an incentive for trading on insider information not available to the ordinary investor. This set-up is a recipe for disaster for ordinary folks. Of course ordinary folks aren't allowed to invest in hedge funds except vicariously with their pension money. Anyway, by now you correctly get the idea that I'm not an advocate of hedge funds.

Here is a link to a Slate article on hedge funds by Daniel Gross.

http://www.slate.com/id/2159584/fr/flyout


Fraud Down on the Bayou

 

4-15-08 Hedge Fund Founder Sentenced to 20 YearsA federal district judge sentenced Samuel Israel III, co-founder of a hedge fund, the Bayou Group, now defunct, to 20 years in prison on Monday for his role in a cheme that cheated investors out of more than $400 million.http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/business/15bayou.html?scp=1&sq=Samuel+Israel+III&st=nyt



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Iðunn profile image

Iðunn  says:
3 years ago

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070301/ap_on_bi_ge/se

"Husband and wife lawyers and 11 top Wall Street workers were charged Thursday with making more than $15 million in illegal trading profit through an alleged federal securities fraud scheme, authorities said.... Besides the lawyers, defendants including registered representatives, compliance personnel and hedge fund portfolio managers, improperly relied on hundreds of tips during five years of illegal trading, she said."

Iðunn profile image

Iðunn  says:
3 years ago

weird coincidence that I just read something on your hedge funds in the news (quote above)

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
3 years ago

Thanks for the comment. We're on the same page.

Iðunn profile image

Iðunn  says:
3 years ago

more on the hedge fundz, latest:

Hedge funds hit hard by subprime woes

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/16/markets/hedge_subp

The limited partnership investment funds are much more exposed to the high-risk loans than mutual funds.March 16 2007 

worldwidesekar  says:
2 years ago

Good information about hedge funds. Like http://www.opaleseque.com

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
2 years ago

Tnx for you comment.

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Ralph Deeds  says:
14 months ago

A shakeout in the hedge fund industry is under way!

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
12 months ago

I can't resist saying I told you so. This hub was first published 3-1-07.

Misha profile image

Misha  says:
12 months ago

That was a good call Ralph! You have all the bragging rights :)

JamaGenee profile image

JamaGenee  says:
11 months ago

Great call, Ralph! I've long thought the non-wealthy, the Average Joes, have more common sense about money than those who have more than they know what to do with. To us at the bottom of the pile, it's M-O-N-E-Y, a finite amount we need to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table. For the super-rich, it becomes simply a THING to be moved around to avoid taxes or to make *more* money. Easy pickings for unscrupulous people like those in the news items above.

countrywomen profile image

countrywomen  says:
11 months ago

Ralph- I believe Madoff promised 10% interest rate without investing in a safe high yielding areas. It is sad when many hard working people lose their life's saving. I have all my savings in a bank account and my company based 401k I don't even know how much it is worth so far. I guess just being busy working I never paid attention to these things. I will have to pay more attention to my finances now. Thanks for reminding me. Btw Happy New Year and I like your new wise man look. The national animal of India(tiger) look was a little intimidating and now I feel much more comfortable talking to your present avatar...hehe

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Ralph Deeds  says:
11 months ago

Thanks for the comments. Here's some additional information on investing in mutual funds:

http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Invest-Money-in-Mut

http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-invest-in-foreign-m

Unless you have a defined benefit pension, you should be saving and investing no less than 15% of your earnings every year. Otherwise, as I've warned my children, you'll end up at age 70 living in a tenement in a bad neighborhood, sitting on a broken down bed, in your pee-stained underwear, with a bare light bulb hanging down from the ceiling and a bottle of Ripple on the floor.

countrywomen profile image

countrywomen  says:
11 months ago

Ralph- Thanks for those links and I will check them out soon. Hope everything is going smoothly at your end. Happy New Year.

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Ralph Deeds  says:
10 months ago

JPMorganChase implicated in Madoff ponzi scam.

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Ralph Deeds  says:
6 weeks ago

Hedge fund founder/executive of Galleon Group is charged with an illegal insider trading scheme which netted him $20 million. His bail was set at $100 million because he was deemed a flight risk.

Others charged by prosecutors include Mark Kurland, the president of New Castle Partners, another large money manager; Danielle Chiesi, a former Bear Stearns executive who now works at New Castle; Rajiv Goel, an executive at Intel’s treasury department who supported the company’s venture capital arm; Anil Kumar, an executive at McKinsey & Company; and Robert Moffatt, an executive at I.B.M.

10-16-09 NY Times article here

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/hedge

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
6 weeks ago

News of Mr. Rajaratnam’s arrest has also shaken the secretive hedge fund world, in which intelligence on companies is often shared among Wall Street analysts, traders and other investors. To gain an edge, hedge funds use lobbyists, private investigators and other connected people to dig for information about a company or industry.

While most of the information is obtained legally, the government’s use of wiretapping and confidential witnesses in the Galleon case raises questions about when investors can act on information that is not public. The case also signals a new zeal by regulators and law enforcement officials to clamp down on Wall Street crime after failing to detect the $68 billion Ponzi scheme run by Bernard L. Madoff. NYTimes 10-17-09

ledefensetech profile image

ledefensetech  says:
6 weeks ago

Smart people in the know have avoided hedge funds for years. Only people who gamble their money, rather than play the market got taken in. It's sad but if you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't risk your money. People are much more apt to take risks with your money than their own. Ben Franklin said it best when he said "Neither a lender nor a borrower be".

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
6 weeks ago

I agree completely. However, we need enforcement of effective rules against Ponzi schemes, insider trading, front running, trading after the market is closed, etc.

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
6 weeks ago

Raj Rajaratnam, the authorities say, masterminded one of the biggest insider-trading schemes in a generation.

Skip to next paragraph

Daniel Acker/Bloomberg News

Raj Rajaratnam leaving federal court last Friday.

Related

Thin Line Separates Insider Trading and Research (October 20, 2009)

Times Topics: Raj Rajaratnam

But if Mr. Rajaratnam was trading on insider information, apparently he was not very good at it.

A close examination of the trades that led to his arrest last week reveals a startling fact: In all, Mr. Rajaratnam lost millions from what prosecutors characterize as illegal trading. NYTImes 10-21-09

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
6 weeks ago

The latest hedge fund insider trading scandal involving insider trading by Raj Rajaratnam's Galleon Group exposes the seamy side of Wall Street and doesn't inspire confidence in the financial industry's treatment of ordinary investors. The line behind insider trading and investment analysis and research is a thin one. Too often the individual investor is at the bottom of the investing food chain, the last to get the bad news or the good news about his stocks. The "big boys" bail out before he gets the bad news and buy before he gets the good news. The SEC faces a near impossible task in enforcing the laws against insider trading.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/business/22insid

ledefensetech profile image

ledefensetech  says:
5 weeks ago

Again, you don't ever talk about how you keep the enforcers from being co-opted by the very people they are to oversee. Look at the SEC. They did nothing about Enron and Arthur Anderson. Industry journals were all talking about the "creative" bookkeeping Enron was doing, but there wasn't a peep from the SEC, at least not until the company unraveled and all those people lost out. Your average investor shouldn't be investing. Especially in an unsustainable boom caused by the Clinton administration's loose monetary policy. Joe Schmoe always gets hammered in situations like that.

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
5 weeks ago

I have talked about how the regulatory agencies have been co-opted by the industries they are supposed to be regulating.

"the Clinton administration's loose monetary policy."??? My recollection is that libertarian, Ayn Randian, Alan Greenspan, appointed by Bush I, reappointed by Clinton and Bush II, was responsible for the loose monetary policy and bubble in the Bush administration and in large part, among others, to blame for the crash. It hadn't gotten out of hand in the Clinton administration.

I'm not a fan of hedge funds or the conflicts of interest between stock brokers and mutual funds and their customers.

What's your solution? Give up efforts by the government to regulate banks, drug companies, airline safety, and so forth? Regulators do a much better job during Democratic administrations than Republican administrations. Bush let the mining, oil, electric power, pharmaceutical and insurance industries write their own tickets.

ledefensetech profile image

ledefensetech  says:
5 weeks ago

Sure, Greenspan was a Randian when he took over, but his subsequent policies were anything but Randian. That's what we call saying one thing and doing quite another. It's how you tell the measure of a person. Greenspan failed. Actually Bush I didn't do a thing, he wanted to ride the recession out, knowing that it would end. That's what gave Billy Clinton his opening to the Presidency.

Hadn't gotten out of hand in the Clinton administration? By 1999 the stock market was way overvalued, Peter Schiff said he was amazed at the number of people who refused to invest in foreign markets in 1998 and 1999 because they wanted a slice of the NASDAQ. Which is why he's in business and most of the people who refused him wound up in the poorhouse.

Really? Tell that to GE. Seems to me the Obama administration is giving them a sweet deal. So much so their network, NBC isn't even bothering to do any real investigating on the President, his cabinet and his kitchen cabinet.

Corporations only get away with the things they do because they co-opt government and government co-opts them. Look at how Goldman used the Treasury to take down rivals and look how the Treasury used Goldman to exert unprecedented control over the nation's banking industry. That pic you posted on your other hub is more true than you realize.

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
5 weeks ago

Blaming Clinton for a crash that occurred nearly eight years after he left office is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? Now you guys are blaming Obama for Bush's follies when he's been in office only eight months. Come on, fair is fair!

Ledefense tech, I'm tired of your patronizing tone: "more true than you realize." You have no idea "what I realize." Why not just stick to the issues and skip the speculation about "what I realize."

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
4 weeks ago

It seems to me that the definition of insider information is somewhat fuzzy. As an individual investor I often feel as if I'm at the bottom of the food chain. The last to get the good news and bad news. Scandals revealed in the past few years have not been reassuring--conflicts between mutual funds and their investors, Enron, apparently widespread re-valuing and backdating of stock options and other shenanigans involving, as Pearson Hunt used to say, O.P.M., drug companies bribing medical school professors, and so forth. Perhaps these conflicts have always been there, but I don't recall so many scandals in nearly 50 years of investing.

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Ralph Deeds  says:
4 weeks ago

October 30, 2009, 1:47 pm

I.B.M. Executive in Insider-Trading Case Departs

By Steve Lohr

I.B.M. is getting a little more distance from the Galleon insider-trading case that broke this month.

The company posted a brief message this morning on its internal Web site. “Bob Moffat, who had been placed on a leave of absence as a result of a U.S. federal investigation into his personal activities, is no longer an employee of I.B.M.,” it said.

Robert W. Moffat Jr. was a longtime I.B.M. manager, who rose to become a senior vice president for the company in charge of its systems and technology group — chip manufacturing and server computers.

In the federal indictment, Mr. Moffat was accused of passing along delicate company information about I.B.M.’s earnings and the plans of a chip-making partner, Advanced Micro Devices, to a hedge fund broker. Mr. Moffat, through his lawyer, has denied any wrongdoing.

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
3 weeks ago

More inside traders caught in SEC investigation as number charged rises to 14.

Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds  says:
3 weeks ago

"I think there are some libertarians who think we should allow it," says Wharton finance professor Jeremy J. Siegel. "But I think insider trading is not a good thing. It makes it more risky to buy securities. When someone is offering to buy or sell, it might be that he or she has some inside information and you are going to get duped. So you cannot trust that you are going to get a fair price." Put simply, insider trading means other investors pay more than they should when they buy and get less than they should when they sell.

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