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Is Health Reform To Large To Get Our Arms Around?

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By eovery



I am been looking at the health care industry and the current legislature attempt to get reform it. I have come to the conclusion that health care is too large and complicated for our legislatures to be able to get their arms around it and control it. The health care system is approximately over ten percent of our gross national product, or about 16 trillion dollars a year.

Healthcare is a large complicated system. The bills to try to control it are approaching two thousand pages. Our healthcare system currently is ran by some of the smartest people and highest educated people in the United States. Even some of the smartest people in the world come to the United States to participate in it.

So we have a bunch of elected officials who think they can write 2000 page law, and run the health care industry. I am finding this very egoistic and incompetent of them. They think that they can redo the health industry within five years. This is a big feat and I do not think that they can achieve it in a competent manner. 

I am so afraid that they will error in some areas and cause some major havoc to the industry. The may result in a lost of health care and higher costs. The current system has evolved over decades and has several government regulations already in the system.

One of the first concern is that the current proposed bill has an approximate one trillion budget deficit over the next ten years, for only five years of coverage. This is approximately 200 billion dollars a year deficit. This is too costly for us.  The only way to cover this is to raise taxes.  So the cost of health care is going to rise considerable.


Possible Trouble That May Arise

Some of the first things that appear to be needed may include the following:

  1. Oversight committees of health experts formed, along with procedures and recommended health treatments. This may follow along with what current health insurance do. Corruption can creep in here based on drug companies lobbying for the medications and drugs to be used, instead of scientific methods of using the best medicines.
  2. Large intricate computer systems wiill need to be established to manage the health care system, records and payments. This will be a large boost to the computer industry.  But it will weigh heavily on the government to get this completed in a timely fashion.
  3. And last, the government will need to open up many offices to process the health care work. This will be a major undertaking. Most of these jobs will be union jobs under the such unions as SEIU. They will also be low paying jobs, which employ many low competent and under educated workers. This will result in major delays and screw up in the processing.system. Also, this will result, as several government jobs do, in having more employees than necessary, with low efficiencies - this is a major draw backs in most socialistic countries.  This is also disappointed that many of the good paying jobs are going to be replaced by low paying wages.  This is a major problem with government ran health care system.

Not to be pessimistic, but I see major problems in the future. These reasons, along with the fact of the one trillion cost of the reform makes me believe the reform that is being presented is bad for us. There are so many problems that will pop up. Maine and Hawaii tried state healthcare systems and found out that it did not work. It become too expensive, and people treated it like a government handout, which resulted in yet higher taxes on the working, and the freeloaders get more.  Basicly, everyone thought they could get free healthcare, let their policies go, and they let the state take care of them.


Real Healthcare Reform Needs

  • Let families and businesses buy health insurance across state lines.
  • Allow individuals, small businesses, and trade associations to pool together and acquire health insurance at lower prices, the same way large corporations and labor unions do.
  • Give states the tools to create their own innovative reforms that lower health care costs.
  • End junk lawsuits that contribute to higher health care costs by increasing the number of tests and procedures that physicians sometimes order not because they think it's good medicine, but because they are afraid of being sued.
  • Even setting up a special, well controlled government paid system to take care of the uninsured would be a lot cheaper than the one being proposed.  And this should take care of all of the uninsured, instead of only about fifty percent, which the proposed system does.  The health care bills being looked at, also fail in this regard.

This may not be a big extensive reform that many expect, but it is something that is feasible and realistic to do. I think we should start slowly and correct the items that we can do easily and get the biggest returns on. Following the 80-20 rule, we can look at the 20% change that can provide the 80% improvement.  And this would be mangageable, but know our democrates in congress feel that they are smarter than the rest of us, and can reform healthcare totally.  I just hope this turns out better than the housing chances they did about ten years ago.  You can see where that has gotten us.

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Tom Whitworth profile image

Tom Whitworth  says:
3 weeks ago

I basically agree with your assessment. If the government knows of fraud and other savings in the system let them prove it by eliminating the fraud and implementing the savings first.

If they are successful at implementing savings, then we the people will know how much money is reasonable to talk about for providing insurance for the uninsured.

Karrl profile image

Karrl  says:
3 weeks ago

There is only problem with your assessment Tom, and that is if they would rid our government from all the fraud and waste, it would mean an extermination of themselves.

Tom Whitworth profile image

Tom Whitworth  says:
3 weeks ago

Is that a bad thing?

Pamela99 profile image

Pamela99  says:
3 weeks ago

Evory, Good hub. There is not one thing the government runs successfully. I like you suggestions but I don't think we will see many of them in the senate bill either. For example, they are against tort reform since they are all lawyers. Extermination doesn't sound too bad.

eovery profile image

eovery  says:
3 weeks ago

Tom, Kerri and Pam, thanks for hubbing by, and for your comments. I approciate them.

Keep on Hubbing!

jiberish profile image

jiberish  says:
3 weeks ago

Eovery, well it passed in Congress, headed for some unknown place, where it will be packed with pork, and most likely shoved down our throats. But not to worry, cuz tomorrow is another day... oh yeah, it's wednesday, party night at the whitehouse. Keep Hubbing!

breakfastpop profile image

breakfastpop  says:
3 weeks ago

Great hub,

Let's see what happens. It just might get clobbered in the Senate. We can hope..

dusanotes profile image

dusanotes  says:
3 weeks ago

Very fine Hub, Ed. Very fine question. My answer is yes, it is something private enterprise should provide and only those who want it, want to pay for it, and need it should have. There are 18 million students enrolled in some 4200 colleges and universities throughout the USA and most of them don't want to pay for it. Yet they may go to jail under the House bill that passed if they reject it. In the alternative they can pay a one thousand dollar fine. Great- the kids who don't have any money, the very ones who put Obama in office are now required to fork up a thousand bucks they don't have to pay for something they don't want.

The whole thing is too big to get our "government" arms around and is too personal to foist on all 300 million of us. Thanks for your provacative hub. Don White

Tom Whitworth profile image

Tom Whitworth  says:
3 weeks ago

I saw today that Bill Clinton (Slick Willie) met with Democrat senators behind closed doors. I can't help but wonder if they were truly discussing health care or if Bill and Monica were having clandestine reunion behind that door.

eovery profile image

eovery  says:
3 weeks ago

jiberish, like breakfastpop said, the senate may not get to pass it. I understand Liebermann is threatening to filibuster it., that is why, like Tom mention, Slick Willie and BO was having a meeting behind closed doors with the democrats. BO and slick willie threatened the Dems that if they do not pass this, then they will not have the democrat backing to become re-elected. BO is using Chicago type politic on them. He is making them an offer that they can refuse!, if you get my drift.

And Don, I do not get it, Like the sign on top of my hub, do not underrate the stupidity. How can they support

something that cost over 1/4 trillion a year and as you said, threatens to fine and put people in jail, who do not buy it. It is bad enough, the congress do not want to participate in it.

Thanks everyone for hubbing over and commenting.

Keep on hubbing!

Patrice52 profile image

Patrice52  says:
3 weeks ago

You are right in that the government doesn't run anything very well (too many hands in the pot). So I'd love to hear you thoughts on how to fix the problem. Taking away the fact that so many people are dying in America from lack of health insurance and health care (assuming we don't care about that), but instead looking at what the health insurance industry is doing to the economy, a point that effects the people WITH health insurance.

Actually 17% of our GDP is now going out in health care, a figure that at its present rate could rise to 35% before long, and we must consider the devastation this puts on our country's economy (as in when one industry takes so much of the collective income in any country, there's not much left over for any other industry to prosper). And we also have to remember that the "brightest minds in the business" are not going to lower rates because insurance is allowed to be sold across state lines in the hopes of creating competition. In our country today with the "brightest minds" in any business always looking out for profit they are perfectly aware that if they stick together on pricing they can still hang on to their enormous profits, in other words, creating a form of a monopoly by the biggest insurance companies. And we also have to bear in mind that tort reform will also not make the them lower their rates or fees, but will only give them more profit to soak up.

I assume that none of us are naive enough to think that any business today is going to lower fees or prices just because it now costs less for them to produce or sell a service, when instead they can just boast additional profits.

This is not a sarcastic comment, but rather I would really love to hear any ideas on what to do about the problem that is two fold, one the loss of lives in our country from lack of health care, and the other, the effect this industry is having on our economy that is expected to get much worse if left alone.

eovery profile image

eovery  says:
3 weeks ago

Patrice52,

You talk like health care is a right. Last I have know, you have to pay for it. You have to right to try to buy it, but it is not a absolute right.

So if you have to pay for it, then you need to have a job, or be financial endowed already.

And those that are too sick, etc, then there are charities that can handle this, and the neighbors should help take care of it.

Right now there are too many people who are able to work, but won't and leach off the system.

Sorry there are no free lunches, like everyone wants healthcare to be. Everyone want the security of healthcare. The only security I know is get a job and work for it. Tough love but it is true. Someone has to work for it.

And for you big business healthcare, every time government get involve, the lobbyist and big money get themselves exempt from the control. The big drug companies, and other big money healthcare business has got their exemptions in the new bill too, so the bill will not work the way we think it should. Sorry, but just facts of life.

So what can we do about, Get a job, manage your health. Lobby your congressman. Become as self-reliant as you can be. Get the security through yourself, and not rely on the government. Get back to the conservative method of taking care of you neighbors, and be part of their security. My parants used to give money to people with health problems, and most of the people did not carry insurance when I was young. We were self-reliant and took care of each other. Now the liberals thing the government should do this. And who pays for it? Well, the people who do not work do not have the money, so the working people have to take care of it. Just because the new bill says, carry health insurance or be fined, and possible go to jail, does not mean people will get health insurance. If they are not working and can't afford it, how are they going to do it.

Sorry, if this may not be the answer you are looking for, but in the long run, it is the only correct answer that I know of.

Keep on hubbing!

Patrice52 profile image

Patrice52  says:
3 weeks ago

I see that it's been a long time since you were down here in the trenchs. Probably the biggest problem is not the people who won't work, as a lot of them are already getting subsidized health care (many times through disability and Medicare or Medicaid) but rather the hard working Americans, many of whom are working many hours or more than one job, and still cannot afford health insurance because the insurance companies have methodically raised their rates until they can't possibly fit them into their budgets. As I mentioned many times on hub pages, I have friends (hard working people) who are paying $1300 dollars a month for HER health insurance alone, and using their life savings to do so.

Of course, I don't know your financial position, but for many hard working Americans this is completely unaffordable. This was what I was hoping you might address or have an answer to. I realize there is a misconception out there that people without health insurance are "lazy" and won't work, and I'm sorry you've bought into that misconception. But I believe the majority of the people without health insurance are hard working Americans who have been priced right out of the market of staying alive. I don't believe health care is a right, but I do believe it should be the right of the American people not to be ripped off by industries such as health insurance companies, banks, or credit card companies. So therefore I'm looking for an answer to the uncontrolled insurance companies as they raise rates to unaffordable levels (in their quest for ridiculous profits), puruse peoples records when they get sick to find any loop hole to drop their coverage, or simply raise their rates so high once they are sick (after paying decades of premiums) in order to force them off the rolls, as they are obviously trying to do to those friends of mine.

I'm sorry that this is the question you didn't want to answer...or didn't have an answer for.

eovery profile image

eovery  says:
3 weeks ago

Patrice52,

First, it sound like she needs to shop around for insurance, and possible look at a higher deductable. Her rate appears way to high.

I feel for these people. Another problem is we have forced insurance prices up because everyone goes to the doctor on every scratch. I know I do, because I figure I have paid for it, I will use it, which actually raises the rates in the long term.

This is why I am teaching my children to go to college and get a degree in a field where they can make a decent salary. I get frustrated with high school kids who either drop out or get very poor grades. I tell them they generally will struggle to make a living.

Also, I believe in establishing a very conservative religious life. There are too people who have lost most of their morals values, and do not make good marriage partners, thus leading to a higher divorce rate and struggling lifes.

I do not believe government healthcare will lower these rates. Only way to do it is to cover less, or deny coverage.

Sorry for the bad news and hard times.

Keep on hubbing!

Patrice52 profile image

Patrice52  says:
2 weeks ago

My friends actually did everything right. She had had that insurance for decades, then developed chronic lymphocytic leukemia and diabetes, and the insurance company stuck it to her. I believe in order to get her to drop the coverage. As I said, they did everything right, including working hard and developing a nest egg, which they are now handing over to the insurance company, month by month. She, of course, can't shop around for lower rates because she now has a pre-existing condition.

You say that sounds way too high. That is exactly the point, and this is not an isolated instance.

I agree with you in that higher education is very important, but not everyone can hold the resulting jobs. Some one has to do the lower paying jobs in America for America to function, and they too deserve affordable health care for all their hard work.

eovery profile image

eovery  says:
2 weeks ago

Patrice52,

Sorry to hear all of this.

Keep on hubbing.

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