Jeff Paul's Shortcuts To Internet Millions. Scam?
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Jeff Paul's 3 Clicks To Cash Scam
Having gotten into internet marketing in the last year, watching Jeff Paul's informercial for his Shortcuts to Internet Millions program seemed like a joke to me.
Had I not been exposed to internet marketing, I might have bitten just for the promise of making easy money with so little work.
The truth is there are many people out there (you may be one of them) that do not have a clue how internet marketing works and I'm sure that Jeff Paul makes a tonne of money with his Shortcuts to Internet Millions program.
Ok, by now you realize that I haven't tried Jeff Paul's program...so how do I know that it is a scam?
Because I should know better! Here's why...
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Here's why Jeff Paul's Shortcuts To Internet Millions is misleading.
There really are no shortcuts to making millions on the internet. If there was every one would already be using that system.
Sure you can make a reasonable large amount of money in a short time but without knowing the ins and outs of internet marketing then '3 clicks to cash' is highly unlikely.
Jeff makes no mention in his Shortcuts to Internet Millions infomercial of what is required to really succeed on the internet. Maybe its included in the 'package' but that doesn't give Jeff Paul the right to make false advertisement and ridicule the real internet marketers.
For example, there is a testimonial from one guy who went on a 7 day cruise after setting up his 3 clicks to cash 'business'. He came back home after 7 days and found that he had made $437,000!
What's Wrong With That Picture?
It takes more than 3 clicks to set up a real money making system. Some of the thing to consider are (If I list more than 3 that pretty much says it):
- Choosing your own unique domain name or website address. This can run you anywhere from $1 - $15. It has to be short and catchy so people remember. Omitting this step means that Jeff probably gives an address for your use which means he owns it and not you.
- Setting up webhosting - Your site has to be hosted in order for people to see the pages on your site. Again if Jeff offers this then you do not own your business.
- You have to find a market - You have to find something to promote which your site will be based solely on. Researching this alone can be very troublesome to some marketers.
- You have to develop content that is unique and persuasive - people just don't pull out their credit cards because they see what they want on a webpage.
- You have to find visitors - build it and they will come doesn't work on the internet. You cant just set up a site, leave it for 7 days and expect to make half a million dollars.
- You'll either have to be on the first page of Google or spending money to get visitors to your site.
If all of this is included in the package somehow, then Jeff Paul or any other sane marketer isn't going to charge you $39.99 - $60 to get their system.
I pay $39/month for my internet marketing training which is well worth the money as I make far more than that and get a lot of value and know enough to see right through Jeff Pauls Shortcut to Internet Millions scam infomercial.
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Comments
Anyone who thinks they can get rich quick with one of these turnkey "SCHEMES" is a total idiot. People, use your heads. If it sounds to good to be true, it is!!! Do a simple Google search on any of these "Get Rich Schemes" and look at all the compliants. If you want to make money on the Internet look into eBay businesses. Starting a business on the Internet is not easy or fast. It's like any other business. It takes time, hard work and potentially a big investment. Don't be another statistic.
John, you're right in a general sense except that affiliate marketing is a business that you can start for little or no money at all.
It definitely won't happen overnight but compared to the traditional business you can make good profits way faster.
I started with no money because my credit card was maxed and I was earning over $3000/month after 6 months and I didn't just go from zero to huge profits...I steadily built my income. It takes time and dedication just like any other business.
John, I agree with Keny and if you think money cant be made on the internet with out large investments. You should look into the case of the 16 year old girl that is currently a multi millionare, she got there through marketing her web site.
Ya'll are all wrong I have the product now and It really works I make 100,000 through 200,000 dollars a month give it a try before you judge peoples programs!
Wonda, really? 100,000 what? bolivars, rupies, pesos? Could we see your website? Do you work for JP?
Note: I could easily delete your comment but I want people to see that even though I haven't tried the program I know exactly what I'm talking about!
I have seen these infomercial's before and yes he is after people's money but to say these are scam's are is a litte far fetched.
Because he is just trying to make a buck like alot of people he is just using the television ads.
He is on the internet to.
Thank you Scott Crawley
Thanks for your opinion Scott.
Jeff's and internet marketer and television is a great way to advertise your product but the way he promotes his own product is a slap in any internet marketers face and a slimy thing to do to the unsuspecting which is why I tell people to be aware.
Its not far fetched at all. $400,000 while you're on a 7 day cruise after setting up 10 websites in 3 clicks is far fetched. I'd advise people to check with sites like RipOffReport and Scam.com before they pull out their credit cards.
Yes I agree with you it is a slap in the face and I commend you for doing this.
Because more should know that it is possibe to make money on the net but like other thing's it involve's planing and work.
Scott Crawley
Kenny:
How can you judge a program without trying it? Seems to me you are jealous of John Paul's success and hate yourself because you didnt think of it first. Its like someone critisizing Christianity without having read the Bible. In case you dint know it the latter says: "Judge lest ye be judged."
Mario please...There's nothing wrong with warning people of scams. Paul will be fine, he's made plenty money scamming folks. (Wandering how Mario brought Christianity into this). Funny!
Mario, at least I'm honest. I haven't tried it and I'm glad I didn't. However I know firsthand how internet marketing works (I tried it first) so I can see right through what John Paul (was that the Pope?) is doing to people.
I have been on the net long enough to know it is not that simple and besides replicated websites are not really recognized by the search engine's.
And I am glad that you are warning people of this, not saying it is a scam but it is very far from the truth.
Scott Crawley
MERRY CHRISTMAS to ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's always wise to check out any "too good to be true" internet marketing scheme before buying into it for the simple fact that once they have your bank/credit card information, they can, and often times do, go "hog wild" with your money. Be very aware of potential scams folks.
Let's put it into perspective! Could you sell just ONE Internet Marketing Course at $10.00? Maybe you set-up a website, drive traffic to a high converting sales page. Do the math...multiply $10.00 by 100,000 sales...that's $1000,000. Get to work!
there are no short cuts, period.
Highwaystar hits the nail on the head with his comment. If this guy could make millions with his system, he wouldn't need to make such great efforts to sell the system to other people - he would have more than enough money, and he'd be sitting with his feet up in his mansion, letting his system make even more for him!
I prefer to learn from people who are successful but aren't out there selling their expertise. Because if their business was really working, they wouldn't need the extra income.
Most don't even want to work hard to achieve success which is the real kick - "do nothing, make money", " set it up and watch the money roll into your bank account", get what I'm saying? They're just selling the hope to people.
to comment on marisa write's comment, (having nothing to do with this hubs content) if you've found a successful way to make millions theirs nothing wrong with selling the concept, (but if your not making millions this is usually someone who I wouldnt trust with information in this tipic).. as for sitting up in their mansion, some people like to share their ideas and help others aquire what they have, also its not always about money, some people have all the money they could need or want and they charge for the course as a way to ensure you motivate yourself to try, free anything motivates you very little to even try beyond it being alittle challenging.. that said a real course on making money even if it does actually contain shortcuts requires discipline.. a course without this requirement is probably a scam.
Jerrico, I agree there are those who are motivated by a desire to help people,but I think it's pretty obvious that those who are using "hard sell" tactics, or being highly secretive with their knowledge until you part with your cash (so you have to buy a pig in a poke) are not in that category.
i was just wandering how many of you all have made money on the web with any of these marketing strategies and if you have i am interested in starting an online business to subsidize my income any suggestions
yea.. hub pages and adsese :) although this is a way to make a fortune it is not one that is easy.. writing part is, but learning how to optomize your earnings is the hard part, stick with it and learn as much as you can and you can make a very decent living/subsidizing this way.. their are people making 40k this way (not typical but not impossible)..
Ihavent found an easy free method to make honest money on the internet yet ! all i see is another guy taking money from the already empty pockets of the dreaming hearts of america. i'm an inventor and have an invention that will keep bugs from laying there egg's on the soil and roots of poted houseplants and thus promoting healthy roots and bigger and more productive vegetables and or houseplants . yet when i have pute it down on the table right in front of the invention company's stating that i will sighn papers that will give them halfe of all money's made from the invention if they will only help me out by geting it to the store shelves they shy away saying something like there hands are tied ? like i say all i see are people taking money from the already empty pockets of the american dreamers for there own proffit ...see if the invention company's realy were interestes in the peoples lives like they say and they bellieved in them like they say and will stand behind them then why are they more interested in ten thousand dollars when i'm offering them halfe of the proposed fifty million dollars a year that they say my invention will make per year ????? i would gladly sighn paperwork giving halfe of all future proffits to anyone willing to help me get my invention to market.. any seriouse person's interested in talking with me about my proposal can write me at boboman46@yahoo.com my name is kirk
I am not familiar personally with John Paul's systemm but I am familiar with several of the infomercials businesses that have been seen on t.v. Here is the catch with many of these and other programs. While some may not be legally classified as a scam doesn't mean that they are totally legit as for honesty. A business can be just this side of legal and still come across as a scam due to the dishonest protrayal of income and ease of the program. I have seen many programs claim to be "set it and forget it" programs that are supposed to make you wealthy while you sleep. What they fail to tell you is how much work goes in to promoting "their" site, as most are a type of affiliate site. This makes promotion on the internet harder as many of the traffic exchanges, forums and other resources that are normally used do not permit affiliate links of any kind. I have joined many of these types of "free" programs and I have yet to make a dime from any of them, even though I spent countless hours trying to promote them.
What gets most people to join many of these "less than honest" programs is the unrealistic dream of making lots of money for doing nothing. This makes it harder to promote legitimate businesses that do require some type of investment such as MLM businesses because people have such a sour taste left behind by many of these programs. Then they want to tell everyone that if you have to pay that it is a scam.
Society today, unfortunately, are not willing to invest money or time and work needed in their own business to research the company and the business that they are offering. They seem to want someone else to do all the work and take all the risks by offering something "free" to join. If you aren't willing to invest the time it takes to learn how to research business offers and don't want to invest anything in yourself, why should others?
Whether it is John Paul or any other internet marketing guru making the offer, people need to take some responsibility and learn how to do the research to be sure they are not getting scammed. They are more likely to be successful at their business if they have something of themselves invested, be it time, effort or money.
Bonnie Ramsey
It's rarely actually that an infomercial system doesnt work. It's not that they aren't selling an amazing and profitable system that yes they themselves used and yes they themselves invented (or made from several existing ideas and had the ambition to make it work in their way)..
People the problem isn't that these guys are crooks in selling a bunk system, the problem is that their selling a dream that is not realistic. The average person given all the right tools, hell even the money will fail because they lack the discipline necessary, and part of the problem is the infomercial gets the set up with expectations that wont happen. Recently a few years back one of these guys got sued and they were forced to put on the bottom of the testimonials "results not typical" because to get those testimonials they had to test market the course to thousands and only one in several thousand will actually do it.. it takes more than a good system, and feeding people an outcome is like infecting their potential success before they get started.
People give up when they make a goal and dont reach it, they think they've failed and they havent.. then theirs those that bought the system and did it made it work and are also making millions, hence the testimonials.. again they had not made the same expectations they made realistic expectations then followed through then EVENTUALLY found the expectations on the infomercial because they didnt just say use this and get riches, it takes work with ANY system, those systems are just formulas but they are in no way get rich quick
the criminal element here is in lying, also I believe they realize that if they tell you you'll make massive money right away you'll buy the course and fail (no compeition) because they know you wont be realistic about it. Failure happens when we make any expectations, outcomes.. success is derived when you can make goals but no expectation of outcome, this way when you fail its not the outcome you failed at its one step.
By the way, the "guy" on the infomercial who went on a 7 day cruise & made $420,000.00 in 7 days wasn't just some guy but one of Jeff's partners (and is also an attorney) Shawn Casey. They both have years of experience behind them and both have great reputations in the Internet Marketing circles. What was Kinda' mis-leading for Shawn to not say was the reason he was able to make that much money in only 7 days was because he makes nearly that anyway due to the massive size of his business already established online which took him years to achieve. The common Joe just starting out has more a chance winning the lottery than seeing numbers like that right off the bat. Shawn has a massive network of affiliates, websites and numerous businesses already so by implementing one of Jeff's shortcuts he would see results MUCH larger than someone just beginning. Another thing to point out is that it is in Jeff's best interest for his students to succeed as they are his affiliates and the more they make, the more he makes because he gets a cut from each sale so to speak. Also, a very important point to mention is the statement that if his system was really that good, everyone would be doing it... Not true. It is human nature that 97% of all people will do nothing no matter what is put in front of them be it due to fear, laziness, procrastination, whatever and the other 3% will. That is why 3% lead the other 97%; always have and probably always will. So don't fool yourself in thinking that just because everybody on the planet isn't doing it doesn't mean it is not a very powerful and effective tool. I can tell you from numerous experiences that you get what you give and more so what you believe you can get. I therefore encourage everyone to try this system that can actually commit and do it and give all you got, following the directions as laid out and you will ultimately be successful; the level of which being determined by your drive, motivation and limits you place upon yourself... or lack thereof. Good luck to all and thanks for letting me post.
Thank you Jeziebell. I appreciate your input.
Interestingly now that you mentioned it that guy does look like Shawn Casey. Thats a truly underhand move.
I personally wouldn't "encourage everyone to try this system" because I would be encouraging them to do business with dishonest people.
This is an interesting topic :) I know Jeff a little bit and he might be on of the BEST I know when it comes to sales letter, persuasion and stuff.
Love his work and study all his moves relgiously!
- Chris
Chris have you ever worked with his plan before?
I belive it can be done it is just easeir for some.
Scott
Last night i was in my hotel and i saw Jeff's infomercial and i, like most people, thought it was a scam and too good to be true. I study Marketing in college as one of my specialties and i even know it takes a lot of money to try to sell a product becuase it takes a lot of decisions and reseraching to just figure our what you want to sell and who you want to sell it to........but that is beside the point im trying to make..............soo being skeptical in wathcing this infomercial i got online and did some researching and here is what i found out i went to Los Angeles Better Business Bureau and found out that Jeff's company isnt registered with the California's Attorney General which is sorta illegaly from what i could tell if you offer these sort of plans you have to make a bond deposit to the California Attorny General and Jeff Paul has not done such a thing yet. . Aslo the LA BBB has had numerious complaints from people with Jeff's company with not giving refunds, not responding to customer complaints, and overall horrible cusotmer service department. The got an "F" from the LA BBB.
Here is the link of the LA BBB website that has the report
seems this guys not too bright.. why ruin your rep for a few refunds? thats gonna cost him much more in the long run..
Ok, I am glad I found this website. I was looking at John Paul's program. This website promotes Holly Mann's Honest Riches program. I have gone to every place I can to try to buy Honest Riches and I always come up empty. I went to six or seven different websites that promote this program and when I click on the link to take me to her website to purchase the program I get "can not find server" or "page cannot be displayed". What is up with that? Does this program even exist? And if I can't buy Honest Riches what other programs have people tried that work? I work nights and am looking for a way to be able to stay home with my son. Please help.
Lisa
All I have to say is making money online is possible but not easy. I've tried using Adsense by Google and made $0. My father actually took a course on eBay and still has a day job. The only realistic way to make money online in my opinion is to spend about $100 getting a domain and hosting, provide a product or service people really want, and set up a paypal account or something of that sort. Even after that there's still marketing and tax costs. I know someone that bought one of these get rich quick schemes off of an infomercial and it didn't work at all. I would advise everyone to NOT buy any of these "3 clicks to cash" type packages. Like someone previously stated.. If all these people are really making big bucks why would they tell the entire world how to? I don't see Bill Gates telling everyone how to build a software company. That being said you can always pick up a rake or leaf blower and go make a hard earned buck. In conclusion, I have found a way to make $ online that actually works but I sure as hell aint sharing it with anyone lol. Best of luck to everyone in their endeavors.
P.S. Don't be a sucker!
this is the way he makes his internet millions.........infomercial
the "guru" marketers all use the same pitch. it's how they became gurus. i read a blog that uses the term GuruKiller to find things that bring in a few dollar without spending.
but let's face it, business is business. the only shortcuts that work are to have your mom be on the board of community chest with a honch from ibm. then you can become bill gates, if you know hoe to actually prodice a product....:-)
I was drawn to the program, seeking a way to legitimately make money on the internet, with integrity - needing to make money in the economy we live in today, credit card debt for gas and food for our family is getting too high when we used to have extra money to help others.... anyhow - it seemed like there is a point to figure out - think out a process of how the money is made and learn how to do it yourself...
what really struck me to tell me there must not be too much integrity in this is their spokespeople - women with their chests hanging out, camera centered on their chests, them acting to be as airhead as possible - brunette more so than the blonde trying to prove some point.... the marketing scheme used was not of good character...
One thing about it is is does draw some interest and I will not bad mouth them for thier marketing effort's, although I do not believe in the way people use women to try to get hteir point across.
And i belive that as long as you have that dream to better yourself these kinda informercial'a will be watched and people will spend thier hard earned cash for these program's.
But i will tell anyone it is not this easy and i will not Hype or lie to you but show you how to achieve success.
Scott Crawley
You know what the solution is? Make up your own bogus program and sell it to people. Get on TV and make bullsh** claims about how rich you are and how your book will make them rich too.
Ok, I was being sarcastic there, but that's really all they do. You get a group of friends and you all make fake testimonials and sell a stupid book to some suckers and your group splits the profits to make money whenever someone buys it.
I really wish someone would send all these scammers to jail. I know they are dancing on the border of the law. Hopefully sooner or later they will fall on the wrong side and get caught.
thank you to everyone for the interesting read. I tried my entrepreneurial skills of selling a product, pottery, here in a very well know artist colony in MA. I had cheap rent and a beautiful product on consignment and with a GREAT URL... sure winfall, right? WRONG!
You need to have marketing skills, a knowledge of how the internet works, along with a product that appeals to the mainstream. It takes hours of dedicated work (mental processing...always thinking) Do the legwork, research, and ask a lot of questions. I am always surprissed how much help I get from others who are trying to do the similar thing.(short of telling you their secrets...) but you can get help from qualified persons. Not from large chested bimbo's saying they know nothing about anything pertaining to the process. Unbelievable! If it seems to good to be true, it probably is!
his name is Jeff Paul you haters
yea seriously guys dont fall for his scam hes sold plenty of his "internet millions" to other people dont let the rich get richer
Thank You everybody for all the useful information!!! I do work out of the home 3 days a week, but need a little more incom and I just saw the Short cuts to millions on the television and began doing some reasearch on it. I never buy anything without doing a fews day af research first. I am glad I came across this site!
I am not going to say it is a scam, but I will with the information and knowledge that the internet has to offer these day's.
You can learn how to make money from home as jeff paul is advertising here in the work form home program.
And he is just marketing on tv for your business, that is the only difference.
Thanks
Scott
Thanks for all the good info. I saw the infomercial a few minutes ago and got on the Internet just to see what people are saying about Jeff Paul's get rich for doing nothing system. The idea of getting rich for doing nothing has great appeal (LOL!) but common sense tells me that IF this happens to anyone, it is indeed a fluke. However, I always hear of people making good money on eBay and the Internet but I haven't a clue as to how to get started on my own without buying into schemes like Jeff Paul's system. Until I figure it out, I'll keep looking and reading info at web sites like this one! Thanks!
Chris I understand and respect what you are saying everyone has to start somewhere and apperntly by your comments you would like to learn how.
And all I can say is if you would like to learn I can teach you and you will not have to get involved in one of these program's like this.
Just trying to help.
Thank's Scott Crawley
Skype scott.crawley
Hi, I saw the info on the 3 clicks to millions and yes while I wish it could be true I know there is just no way of really making that much just by clicking 3 times. Once you pay the 39.99 for the ""kit" then to actually succeed you'll have to pay hundreds of dollars and I don't have that kind of money to put out to get rich. I really don't even care to be rich I just want to pay off my debts which is why I'm looking into internet marketing. I just need to know somewhere good to start that I could actually in the future make some money. I'm a stay-at-home Mom of 2 small children and would really love to be able to keep it that way so if someone has a good idea of somewhere to start then I would appreciate any information I could be given. (Only serious information please)
Thanks for this site.
I've seen this infomercial a couple of times. Have you noticed that all of these commercials always use ladies with ample breasts and low cut tops, that Don Lapre guy used the same tactics.
This product is clearly the teaser to get you to sign up for additional programs, like traffic generation that they charge outrageously huge amounts of money for.
There are a few products that do offer you the ability to make money online, One I've used is www.directincomesystem.com . One thing to always remember is that to make money online you need to make a commitment to do the work necessary everyday.
There are plenty of people making very large sums of money online and yes there is a formula to follow for success. Just don't buy into the get rich instantly scam or you are sure to lose your money.
WOW!
I am amazed on the passion that has been displayed regarding the different types of scams that are on the internet; the types of people that are generating capital and are not; the persuasive comments to redirect others into trying the products; and most of all, the appealing to others which infers common ground from one another's point of view. The fact of the matter is we have this liberty of expression that is sometimes clouded by the parallel ideology of another's best practice and opinion. We are spending too much time analyzing rigorous approaches and what it takes to become successful that we miss out on the basics of doing business. I find it rather simple. Give people what they want in exchange for something you want. If I could create a product a sell it to others that want to buy, then I've satisfied the philosophy. If I can't, then I must go back to "MY" drawing board. Question...should everyone's drawing board look the same? You decide! If you answered no, then I believe your on the right track to obtaining success for yourself and "YOUR" philosophy.
I wished I would have came up with the internet marketing idea like they did and made money. However, I'm okay...I'm helping people and loving it at the same time plus I'm making money.
I say, "Get your on damn SCAM and leave everyone else's alone" WHY? Because in a sense we all have SCAMMED someone in some area of our lives. If your a real person, you'll think about how you had to persuade, manipulate, or just slightly encourage someone to do something for you for the purposes of benefiting you. It's all based conditioning factors that we learned through our childhood experiences.
Let people buy their dreams and let them enjoy the fact that they took a step towards there fantasies. We have no right to try to control what people should desire and what they should not. We are in no position to inadvertently suggest how another should think about success by so called "Making people aware of the types of scams that are out here".
Don't play in the mud with your church shoes unless you paid for the shoes yourself. And if you did pay for them yourself, I don't think anyone has a right to tell you what you should and should not do with them.
this guy could be related to Kevin Trudeau....the ultimate scammer
Hi, and thaks for putting this page up...This is sentense that you have is great:
You have to find visitors - build it and they will come doesn't work on the internet. You cant just set up a site, leave it for 7 days and expect to make half a million dollars.You'll either have to be on the first page of Google or spending money to get visitors to your site.I have not bought this but i dont recomentd or unless you know that he a web site like ex: monster.com or www.HighEndJobs.com or a good site that get a lot of hits were he will let you advertise on those website...
:-)
John
Well Keny, you did not buy the system but already you know everything about it. You know the system does not work and in your opinion it has got to be for suckers. You are not going to make any money . . . just by buying it. Maybe you don't know this but you have to put in time, effort and energy . . . and maybe a little cash to make money with this system.
It would be interesting to know how you have gained this wordly wisdom, and clearly it would be good to know how much you make each week.
It is so funny . . . and sad how folk like you can so easily tag something as scam or rip off . . . but you have never bought it and probably will never have thje money to do so anyway.
Reading your Jeff Paul comments has suggested to me a useful activity on the net. I'll proofread entries to HubPage. I've never seen so many errors in English in one place.
The key to making money on he net is good content, keywords and persistence.
Scott Crawley(scwealth
Hi, Nice job on the hub page.
It is always great when people decide to provide information like you have and then let the public decide.
I know this is what I have done on my site.
This is the way the net is suppose to work. Great comments by all. It just seems a little odd that Kenny is also promoting a $12,000 a month if you work hard internet job. I'm a very succesful business man. Own 3 different business in two states and have over 100 employees. But I know just how hard marketing is, I have tried for years to develope the skill and have failed. Just because someone has a system even if it works for them doesn't mean that it will ever work for you not matter how much or succesful you are. Stick to who you are and what you do best. But you can always try different things and yes you will lose money at everything you try but don't stop trying. Maybe Jeff Pauls system doesn't work and with all the feed back you should look hard at it, but don't stop trying.
Thank you Craig for your contribution. Just to clarify...I'm not promoting a "$12,000 a month if you work hard job". The majority of people coming to this page are interested in internet marketing.
They've been lied to by Jeff Paul and they want to know how it all works. All I'm doing is pointing them in the direction of an honest program where they can learn how to make money on the internet with internet marketing.
I'm not saying they'll make $12,000 a month. Holly Mann makes $12,000 a month. When you just start out you'll make way less and this business has the potential for them to make way more. Internet marketing is just like any other business and you have to work hard...there's absolutely no shortcuts but you have to know how it works. It becomes easier when you know the ins and outs. There's no set it and forget it like what Jeff Paul promotes.
I agree, that infomercial is scammy at best. I have been a fan of Jeff Pauls for sure, but after that, i was just sad, scrapin' every last penny is okay but don't be a snake about it..... $30,000,000+ made in business and you have to be screwy about it now?
I'm sort of surprised they didn't put Donald Trump and Bill Gates on there too, saying how they made millions/billions and they know Jeff lol
I am a stay at home mom of 3 and saw his ad on tv as well... thought too good to be true - did a google search - WOW! Does anyone have any businesses online that are legit? I really need to be able to feed my kids next week..(not starving yet, but will be getting close) --- if anyone has any information about something I can do online that is legit, please send some links. Please!!
Susan I will not hype it up or lie to you about making money on the internet but if you would like to learn some legit ways I can help you.
It will take some work but and there is a investment in any business but I will let you be the judge of that and I will not pressure you one way or the other.
Just trying to help you like someone helped me.
Just do a search here on hubs and read some of what I have written and contact me if you like what you read.
Hope to hear from you Scott Crawley
I appreciate the info on what works. I have considered buying into Holly Manns ebooks. Based on what I have read here, I'm gonna give her a try. I already consult SEO but many of my clients want to know about affiliate marketing. Perhaps Hollys approach is an honest, no hype revelation.
I have wasted so much money on these infomercial products that give you high hopes with no results. The only useful thing i got from this infomercial was the cleavage on the brown haired hottie.
I ordered Jeff Pauls Internet to Millions and now I find out that they want $6500.00 to help you get it up and running. What kind of crap is that? They told me I would make 3 times that amount within 30 to 60 days. I told them if it was that good that they could pay the $6500.00 for me up front and I'd reimmburst them twice the amount and they told me they couldn't do that. Said they have lost millions of dollars on people becuase they didn't follow thru. If they didn't follow thru then it's a scam.
Well I was at the gym today and saw Jeff Pauls infomorcial and like most of the average people out there. I saw it as a scam, but at $30.00 I actually thought about ordering it just to see if it worked. You know to be honest I would love to have a website or a program that would let me make money (even just enough to pay my bills) I don't need to make millions. From what I've seen this doesn't exist. More than anything I just want to open my own business. I would like some advice or a place I can go to research this. I already have my own DBA but it seems the money to actually acomplish this is the hard part. I work full time and I pay my bills. Can anyone give me and assistance???
Jason you can try any of the recommended programs above. I'm a member of Wealthy Affiliate and I've read Honest Riches.
Or you can sign up for a free 7 day course at http://make-money-daily.blogspot.com/ to learn more about affiliate marketing.
I just saw the Jeff Paul infomercial and of course I wanted to do some research before getting involved in this. I have my own domain and website for 2 rental properties. We don't market it, but use it in conjunction with other rental websites and chamber of commerce in that area. I was looking to start a separate website business and know that the marketing portion is the hardest part. I am going to research the above listed suggestions and am also asking for other suggestions to help startup a business online. A word to the wise, every offer that makes it easier for you & do the work for you, will of course, take their cut in your profit. That is, the more you do yourself, the less middlemen are involved in your business. That goes for any business, not only the internet. Good Luck to everyone and please post any other educational info to help us all get started.
I can honestly say that. I thought maybe I could make SOME money. The way he talks It's alot. but, why do people do scams? Is they're really any site that you can make money. I don't get why people do it in the first place. So, as I look through this all I see that people have tried it and know's how it works. How much money did you make? But, Anyways. I thank you guys for even making this site to inform people that he's a idiot. odviously.
Thanks, Misty
Has anyone given any thought as to exactly where these 10 "3 Clicks to Cash" websites are posted once they've been setup? Certainly not on Google or Yahoo because they haven't instructed you to sign up for Adwords or Overture. They supposedly go to a Jeff Paul website that only JP members have access to. Now why would a JP member buy another member's product, put money in someone else's wallet when the object is to put money in their own?
This is where the "upgrade" and the additional cost comes in. They give you 30 (60?) days to cancel the initial program minus the shipping and handling, but only 3 days to cancel the upgrade, which is thousands more, not to mention they tack on several hundred dollars in s&h. Plus you are told it may take a few months to get an ROI. You can't even get started in three days, let alone be able to figure out if the program is going to work. By the time you do, 3 days is long gone. That's how Jeff Paul makes his money. If you do cancel withing the 3 days and are lucky enough to get your refund, they keep the couple hundred dollars in s&h. Either way, Jeff Paul will make money off of YOU.
There are money to be made on the internet, you just have to tink outside the box, and listening to others that have suceeded can never be wrong.Good luck all!
Well, i want to talk with someone that could recommend me the best system to work online, with dedication, discipline but 100% effective, please feel free to call me 703-869-0169 Gian Carlo, thank you.....
I totally agree, I ran a store front business for over ten years, and the idea that you just click your mouse three times and start collecting the money is absurd. There are ways to make money on line, but just like any other business it takes money to make money
Money helps but making money online is easier than you think. Internet marketing is probably the only business that I know about where you can start making money with little to no upfront investment.
Hi, this is a great place for Internet Marketers! I have a site, Achieve Success On The Web and I offer free marketing tips here (scroll down): http://www.achievesuccessontheweb.com/ I hope you like it!
Jeff Paul's "3 Clicks to Cash Websites" are as useless as Mentoring of America is honest! The whole program is a SCAM! Do not in any way get involved with this den of crooks and rip off artists! These people prey upon the weak and ignorant! Research "Jeff Paul" on any search engine and you be the judge! If you have been ripped off by this sceme or any of the numerous other scemes from this company, contact your local BBB, the FTC, and most important of all file a complaint with the State of Utah-Department of Commerce-Division of Consumer Protection. Website: http://www.consumerprotection.utah.gov
These people need to be stopped and given long jail sentences!!!!!
Why doesn't everybody just quit yapping, fork out the $40 and try Jeff Paul's program? If you really wanted to give people an honest "heads up", that seems to be the only way, don't you think? Half of you probably spend more than that in a night on fast food, booze and cigs. Somebody try the darn thing and then let us know! Dang!
Michelle,
I saddly am a victim of Jeff Paul and his Internet cronies. my earlier post was to warn people of this den of cockroaches and thieves! The whole program is nothing but a SCAM!!!! I tried it out for 60 days.... and unlike a testimonial from one guy who went on a 7 day cruise after setting up his 3 clicks to cash 'business'. He came back home after 7 days and found that he had made $437,000, I did everything that they told me to do, I even spent a great deal of money and joined Jeff Paul's Big League Players Club, spent money on adwords the whole bit! To this day I have not made a single dollar on this scam! I want consumers to know that the 3 Clicks to Cash is a totally useless product. The All Star Program and the Big League Players Club are nothing but ways to leech money out of you. These coachroaches will max out your credit card, god help you if they have your credit information, and then dump you like a sack of garbage. Do not get involved with Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck, Mentoring of America or a host of other companies these low lifes are affiliated with. All of these "people" deserve a long prison sentence in a place that is worse than hell!! How many people have these roaches ripped off with their promises of financial freedom and the like. I checked out some of the stories of people who have been ripped off on the internet and it made me sick, angry, sad, and I want to help do my part to bring down this den of thieves!!!! Michelle, I hope this answers your question on Jeff Paul and his henchmen...
Oh and Michelle, I almost forgot to mention, it is not only $39.95 for the Short Cuts to Internet Millions aka "3 Clicks to Cash", shipping and Handleing was an additional $24.00. Lets see, so far we are up to $63.95. What this den of maggots does not tell you on the infomercial for this product is, and I quote from their invoice "After 30 days you will be billed $39.95 (unknown to you it is billed to the credit card you made the initial purchase with) a month to continue receiving 10 new Business websites and [sic] other exclusive features. You can cancel at anytime by calling 1-800-434-5426. Remember just one of these new websites could make you rich." If the first 10 websites were totally useless, and they were, what makes you think that more useless websites will make you rich? Yes these people are screwing hard working people with their bullshit products and promises. I can only hope that the word gets out on these worthless products and the cockroaches behind them.
Well this whole jeff paul thing is all screwed up I haven't tried it yet because I just got done reading all but the bonus book and the only differance between a book store and this jeff paul thing is it's all e books. In the green yellow and red book he tells you different ways to make money like public domain books or buying copyrights from publishers doing drop shiping joint ventures. Along with other stuff like if you were a retired electrician you could put out a step by step video on how to change out the panel at your house a do it yourself video book with all the hiccups in the video of what could happen. There are other things in these books that are probaly prudent to any and all internet marketing in some shape and form but what jeff paul doesn't tell you is for example his program $150, websites merchant account set up fee, aquireing product to sell, having a small stock at home, and other costs. The total just hit quadruple digits when all is said and done your inital start up fee up too or better than 3000 let alone your time of posting and everything else that needs to be done to get people to visit your website. Because lets face it not all of us are salesman enough to set up joint ventures right out of the gate and some times you need a product first to get your website off the ground to show people you have a busy website. So as far as i'm concerned anybody that says you can quit your job in 2 weeks after starting with their product is full of it and anyone that tells you out of the gate you need five grand for start up and you might not make any money working with their product than I'll believe them a little bit more.
Tom, I guess the marketing Gestapo from Jeff Paul has not called you yet! My sincere advice, JUST SAY NO! If you want to try this program, set up your free 10 websites right away! After you have set them up locate them on the internet with your regular browser. Could you find them? If you could what was the URL? Do you really own these websites? How much money do you make on a sale? Also, beware! some of these free websites require you to have a Merchant account. Guess what, Jeff Paul and Mentoring of America will set you up with a merchant account for a fee of $395 plus a three year contract that you MUST pay a minimum monthly fee on for the next 36 months if you make a dime or not! If you default on these monthly payments, your credit rating will be destroyed. Please, judge the entire Jeff Paul and Mentoring of America's programs by the results from your "Shortcuts to Internet Millions" do the 3 clicks to setup a website and nothing more and see for yourself. Alert:the Jeff Paul sales staff is as relentless as the Borg, resist the temptation to pour more money into this money pit! I speak from experience. I was a fool and did not research this "fine" company. Check with you local Better Business Bureau, Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck, Mentoring of America, and see for yourself. Also check http://www.ripoffreport.com/
Just search for Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck, Mentoring of America and see what others are saying about this fine program.
tom
Return the Jeff paul program as fast as you can! Tis program is pure Bullsh*t!
Jeff Paul programs totally suck! HERE'S THE DEAL: Since these incestuous maggots insist on giving 'moneymaking' secrets away to total strangers and for a loss to themselves, why don't they make payments due them contingent upon one profiting from the use of their program? Something like a 50/50 split. Not agreeing to such ideal terms is admittance of FRAUD, as such an ideal split would make no difference to any legitimate business.
The FCC will catch up with him.
The one company that hasn't been mentioned is Derek Gehl's Internet Marketing Center. They have a course that has been around for over 10 years and it still is the best out there.. and at the right price. Insider Secrets..
I think Jeff's runs around 5-7K.. Insider secrets is about $175
This Stuff has been going on for years (late night tv infomercials). Does anyone here remember 'Don Lapre" in the early 1990's? I remember buying his system in 1993, and it has some useful junk in it for a beginner. He was selling systems called "Buying and Selling", 900 numbers, Placing ads nationwide". He was selling his junk off and on until the late 90's as far as I know. And this John Paul seems like the same kind of smooth talker, he reminds me of the sleazy car salesman tv commercials. And you know it's a scam when both the women on the show have their boobs hanging out of their shirts. What about SMC (the one that tom Bosley from Happy Days sells)? Thats the same kinda junk.
I don't really know too much about Jeff Paul's new program, but what I do know is that when I ordered something from him a while back I ended up returning it for a refund. It just didn't seem worth it. And it seemed to be some old rehashed outdated stuff that you can easily find anywhere on the Net. Whether Jeff Paul is a scamster, hypester, or both...I can't say for certain. All I know that I don't trust him OR like his hyped-up style. I prefer to focus my business, time, money & energy elsewhere.
P.S. Here's a hub that I wrote that fits in line with this discussion. It's entiled "Learn To Protect Yourself Against Home Business Scams and Internet Scams":
there are too many of these scamsters these days, the sad thing is people still fall for the same old scams!
Jeff Paul is one of the early online marketers who made lots of money. In fact, most of us selling anything online are probably using some of his tactics without knowing it.
A lot of the older marketers now want to diversify into T.V. because online marketing has gotten tougher.
I agree that if anyone wants to be successful, it's best to be honest & not think people are stupid. In the Web 2.0 world we live in, everybody is smarter & not easily taken in by hype.
See the thing with the Jeff Paul system is that he does it so well, hitting all the right buttons and creating hype around his program because he knows people want an easy way.
But if it aint honest it doesn't profit you in the long run. He's gonna make a lot of money off the people who don't do their research but he's going to tarnish his credibility. Is it really worth it?
I can not give my real name, but I work for Jeff Paul's internet site. It's located in Phoenix, Az the Adress is 4129 E. Van Buren Ave. In the Airport Technology center, 2nd floor. They are under the name "Mentoring of America" We all know that we are ripping people off, but we get paid well there. I am going to a new job soon....sorry, I really needed the money. Thier Number is 1-888-249-9046, George is the trainer, ask for him, he'll get a kick out of it if someone calls.
Ken,
We all gotta do what we gotta do.. thanx for the info, maybe I will pay a visit to this den of cockroaches and maggots. These people all need to be given long jail sentences in a cell with the people the ripped off. At best they are peddlers of false hope, in reality they are the worst form of slim on the planet. These people are a cancer eating away at the trust and faith of America. One day their time will come!!!! Until then, avoid Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck, John Beck and Mentoring Of America like cancer or AIDS....
I almost forgot, if you or anyone you know has had "problems" with the "programs" of Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck, John Beck, Mentoring of America or any of their numerous affiliate companies File a complaint at: http://www.consumerprotection.utah.gov
Make sure that you file a complaint here as there is an on going investigation into these "fine" individuals and companies..... If there are enough complaints the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) will have to launch a full investigation into the dealings of these "people" and one can only hope that long jail sentences to the owners and officers of these companies is the result. God Bless America.
Keny Luger is RIGHT!
Focus on a Strong Business which supplies value and something people want. Every successful business does this. SCAMs which offer nothing of value do the person buying it NO good, even the originator of the scam will come out as a loser down the road. THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH. But enough of this negative BS!
Create an Internet Marketing vehicle that genuinely helps people. In return you can ask a cash exchange for it. Isn't this what every successful business person, online and in the bricks and mortar world, has done? The fastest way to do this is find someone successful and "model" them. Kind of like finding a mentor. Why spend 6 months doing it when you an learn it in one month?
Keny Luger comes across with Integrity and values. Try to build an online business without these qualities and you'll end up knee deep in Poo! I reckon this article has SAVED a few folks out there some hard earned cash.
Thanks for the kind words and useful advice Jimmy. In the brick and mortar world these guys would have lost far more.
I unfortunately was one of the many suckers to order Jeff Pauls "3 Clicks To Cash". I was just starting out on the internet after bieng put out of work with a complicated pregnancy in 2003 and thought well if I can make some extra money to help with the bills while still being at home that would be good.
What a sucker I was. I hadn't even owned a computer but a few months and believed every word of it. I was however smart enough to right on my calender the phone# and date I ordered it so I would know how long I had to cancel in the event it did not work. That was the best thing I could have done. Though after setting up my "3 Clicks To Cash" websites I noticed something in the URL that looked fishy and me not knowing much about the internet or URL's then, I decided to look around for any info on this Jeff Paul. That is when I found all the many complaints about his 'product'. I road it out for a few weeks just to see and NOTHING and I mean NOTHING happened. No Sales, No Nothing! So I cut my losses and decided to contact them for a refund.
Boy was that a chore! They could NOT be reached by the # I ordered it from. No # was in the package just an address, but I found a thread online that a girl had returned hers to this address without first contacting them for a RA# and she never got her money back and she lost the product since she had already mailed it.
She fortunately came across the toll free # somewhere online and shared it on that thread so others would not fall victim. It took me 3 days to get through to that # but I finally got it cancelled and was refunded the original purchase price less shipping. It took 5 more weeks to post to my credit card of course after I had to pay interest on it. They did have to give me an RA# to place on the postage label or else I would not have gotten a refund. But do you know to this day I still get calls from them saying they want only a select few to join the higher ranks of their program and if I qualify by answering a few questions(that takes the short time of 45 minutes of your time on the phone) then I will be allowed access to secrets nobody else will know. What a 'CROCK'. I have told them to stop emailing me and calling me but still they do. Don't know how to get that stopped.
Anyway, everyone who posted on this hub and thinks Jeff Paul is a CROOK is absolutely RIGHT!
I am smarter now and have 3 more kids since then and can not afford daycare for all of them so I am making a go at my website ( www.onlineworkforfree.com) that does seem to be generating quite a bit of traffic lately. I have recieved checks from the companies I am affiliated with and it increases every month, so I guess you live and learn and as long as you don't make the same mistake twice, then you have gained in knowledge. I am trying to put all of my knowledge together so that I too can be one of the lucky ones that find and prosper in Internet marketing. I am currently an affiliate of quite a few companies and being that is not bad at all. I am atleast getting checks on a regular basis now and I do believe in my system or I would never promote it.
I refuse to subject others to nonsense as I would not like this kind of treatment by others, so in saying that I would like to say to all the ones on here looking for REAL WORK on the web. There are many things I have found that truly do work, it took lots of research on my part, lots of time developing and optimizing my website(sometimes till 3 am in the morning on the computer) and good old fashioned hard work trying to get my site noticed. It can be done, I am proof, and it can be done with kids running around and constant distractions ( which little ones can bring) but it takes dedication,perseverance, and time. If you have this YOU too can make your 'riches' online. And NO I am not rich, not yet anyway! But I AM going to be wealthy from my business enough to pay off my debt and be able to let my husband get out of trucking and start preaching full time like he desires to be! Like I know God wants him to be doing!
Quote of the day: "Any phrase placed after 'I AM' has power to change the world."
Just take GOD for example He is the great 'I AM' Exodus 3:14
Thanks and anyone who wants to know more of what I do online for my income is welcome to contact me at: savedbygracesinr@bellsouth.net
Tabitha, thank you for taking the time to share your experience with Jeff Paul's 3 Clicks to Cash product. Very inspiring the way you turned it around.
I learned a valuable lesson thru all this and that is "You can do ALL things through Christ"(Phil.4:13) but you will always mess things up if you don't bother asking HIM about it first, and you do it your way. I will never dive in to anything again without asking Jesus first no matter how small or how big! This is the mentality that I have had to take on to keep going forward in this business.
Thanks Keny for becoming my first fan!
Three clicks to cash, the problem is the only one making any cash is Jeff Paul. They keep stressing that your website works for you 24/7, but what they don't tell you is unless someone finds your website it is virtually worthless. I'm surprised someone doesn't investigate this crook
If enough people file claims against Jeff Paul and Mentoring of America the FTC will have to launch a full scale investigation into this den of thieves. Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck, John Beck and Mentoring of America need to be taken down and lengthy prison sentences given to all of these low life, predatory, bottom feeders!
Get rich quick shemes are just that! We had someone here in FL that sold bogus products, was convicted, and they still let his commercials play. Doesn't seem right. Good to know that someone is putting the correct information out there. As someone in the internet business, I can tell you that it takes time. Nothing good happens overnight.
Great info and a good heads up for anyone looking to make that fast cash!!
Ok so me and my husband also fell for this "3 clicks" crapola! I haven't even gotten through the first dang book yet let along the three dvd's! They call me and ask me if i have read through the program, i said "no it's too much information that i know nothing about!" Well then I was told "It's alot easier when you get going." Ok when the heck am I going to "get going?" In the mean time I have to cancell my debit card because i am being chaged $40.00 per month! I am ashamed I even thought about doing this, I'm sticking to the "get skinny quick" infomercials instead!!!
I have not tried any of these programs and am personally believe getting rich quick schemes are not for me. Even though I do believe in any system there are few people who might achieve success. You have to be extremely lucky too, I guess. But then I can as well buy a lottery then.
Techie, having an internet marketing business or making money online doesn't have anything to do with luck.
You just have to learn how to do it, just like becoming a lawyer or dentist or even a bartender.
The shortcut to internet millions technically speaking is NOT a scam However ...
What he offers you to make money is about 30 bucks a month in charges for content you can find and use for FREE online but you must already know about it to be able to use it. His 3-click system (choose niche, choose a Clickbank affiliation, submit) DOES setup your websites and put them online and hosts them.What you get to start is your choice of three "free" websites (you also get two of his cd's in the mail...consists of 1-3 pdf files on each disk...the downside is the pdf files can be found online for FREE) (if you know where to look so not much of a incentive) and after you have paid your 30 bucks you get ten more 3-click sites and then each month you pay your 30 bucks you get ten more sites and he sends another cd (also can be found for free online) if you know anything about IM or affiliate marketing then you know about CLICKBANK (which is free to sign up and use)and the money that CAN be made there. If you don't then Jeff's 3-click system would probably seem like a GREAT offer because it takes you from a link on his "bigplayersclub" site directly to the CLICKBANK site where you choose your affilaites for your 3-click sites. the sites are set up with splash pages and your affiliate links. (the splash pages are filled with words spelled wrong and links to sites that your not affiliated with and the splash pages are the same for everybody the cpanel allows you to change your keywords for the site to your liking but getting top spot is very difficult since the best keywords are already used by Jeff's sites. So technically speaking what he sells you IS a valid way to make money online (i dont know about the hype numbers and how accurate they are) but what he's selling you can be found for free if you take the time and look for it.
YOU ALL SUCK AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING. KENNY YOUR A DUMBASS CUZ YOU WANT TO BE RICH AND CANT BE CUZ YOUR A LOSER WHO HAS FAILED ON THE INTERNET 100 TIMES SO LEAVE JEFF PAUL ALONE AND LET HIM DO HIS THING, AT LEAST HES MAKING MONEY.
Jeff Paul and all of his internet cronies i.e. John Beck, Jim Fleck and the rest should all be taken out and put into a state prison. These cock roaches and maggots need to be put out of business ASAP. They peddle pure shit and as such need to be flushed like the turds that thay are..Nick, if you think that Jeff paul is sooo great, why don't you enroll into his ALL STAR program? I can tell you why!!! You are too smart to fall for this kind of crap. Avoid Jeff Paul, John Beck, Jim Fleck and Mentoring of America like a bad case of the crabs! These "people" deserve long prison sentences for being the rip off artists and peddlers of false hope that they are! Hopefully a Federal Trade Commission investigation is in the near future and the maggots get what they deserve.
Avoid Jeff Paul and Mentoring of America programs like the plague! These "people" are rats and cockroaches trying to steal your money! HERE'S THE DEAL: Since these incestuous maggots insist on giving 'moneymaking' secrets away to total strangers and for a loss to themselves, why don't they make payments due them contingent upon one profiting from the use of their program? Something like a 50/50 split. Not agreeing to such ideal terms is admittance of FRAUD, as such an ideal split would make no difference to any legitimate business. Yes these people are real rip off artists.
Wow! This is interesting information to know! This is great to have a place to sound off regarding internet marketing products. There is some angry people on the hub!
I'm a widow trying to raise a teenage son. I bought into Jeaff Paul's infomercial and ordered it. Only two of the CD's work on my computer, the others won't run or lock my computer up. What I haven't seen on anything on the two CDs that will get me to the promised 10 internet businesses. All I seee is testimonials and his first steps. I really wish I had found this site before I ordered the packette. I don't want to be a millionaire but would like to supplement my meager income. So now to get a refund HAHA!! on this order. A little too late but a lot wiser.
I think all or most of the infomercials out there to what they set out to do. Make it sound so good that you just can't resist ordering from them, and if your a trusting person you might think well it must be true or they wouldn't say it on TV HA HA!!! They probably count on you ordering & then not asking for a refund because you were stupid enough to order from them in the first place.
By the way like the saying says SEX Sells. How many men out there do you suppose bought Jeff's program just because he had to hot looking women with huge boobs doing his sales pitch??? Don't believe me, watch the infomercial next time it's on & tell me why two women would dress like that to pitch a product & notice how through the entire informercial they are always leaning forward the entire time they are talking & how low cut their tops are so they can show off their huge boobs & maximum cleavage!!! I just know when I watched the infomercial that I had TIVOed I just kept saying Man does those two have huge boobs!!! But sorry to say the dark haired one came off as being dumb as a post!!!
Jeff Paul is an internet pirate. His program does not work and how can he state such crap in an infomercial? From what I have been able to gleen on the internet is that Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck, John Beck and Mentoring of America are all related to one another! There are numerous complaints against Mentoring of America with the Better Business Bureau. I am soooo glad I did a little research and discovered what a den of thieves and butt pitrates this group of jerks really is!!! You can make more money by throwing money into a wishing well or playing your states lottery than you can with any of the programs offered by thede "fine" individuals or companies. Hell, you would be better off becoming a moonshiner than risking your money with these money grubbing leeches!!!! Thank god for the right of free speech and thank you for this website where I can warn people about this corrupt group of Internet Highway men who prey on the hopes and fears of honest hard working people. I only hope that what comes around goes around and all of these "people" who are without a doubt the best rip off artists on earth, get long prison terms for fraud.
I just purchased and have recieved Jeff Pauls Shortcuts to Internet Millions program. Like Linda reported above, there is no way to get to my 10 free websites that he promised. I believe I have been scammed. Now... to find a way to return and get my money back... minus the shipping!
hello to everyone on this page,I confess to sending off for jeff pauls 3 clicks crap.but lucky for me I used a money order instead of a credit card and also im very happy to have found this web address .after reading everyones notes&lettersI will consider myslf finished on this one .has not come in the mail yet ,will send back unopened. signed,stupe,but learning.
Very nice material!
I would advise anyone, who is a newbie to Interenet marketing to check:
www.thirtydaychallenge.com by Ed Dale and Dan Raine, which is absolutely free of charge and it is really huge!
Thare is nothing in web business, without hard, dedicated work, but it pays off, very much!
You totally nailed it dude! I have seen many commercials like the one you reference...funny thing they feature really busty women...Internet marketing is the wave of the future and the road to financial freedom! So catch the wave, ride it, but do so armed with knowledge, training and a genuine desire to help and give value!
Great Hub!
cool hub
i personally have taken some expertise from jeff paul and honestly speaking i have not found any negative thing about him. I will agree to a point that someone might have not benefited from him but we simply can not deny the fact that there are spill over effects in every industry. my fiends even have taken entrepreneurship from him and all of then have benifited from it.
Tracy, you must work for Jeff Paul. His Three Clicks to Cash is an even bigger rip off than OPEC's Oil prices! Just do some simple internet research and read about all of the people that Jeff Paul and Mentoring of America have screwed over and tipped off over the years.
Hey guys, I read all the comments and I am very glad about that, but I think to try it can be worth it, as JP said, you have your 60 days money guarantee, or is it another scam as some of you call it?
Take care!
Do not fall for this hack. I'm not going to drag on and on, but he is just the tip of the spear in the new "INTERNET SCAMMERS." It doesn't matter how you dress it up, these men are no better than stealing your wallet! This guy is another who eventually will either end up in jail or something worse.
Good material i trully think he has hit the nail on the head when he recomended wealthy affiliates internet marketing university. I am currently a member and believe me these guys now what they are doing in this industry.I have got to know things about internet marketing that i had never known before and they have contributed alot to my success, all thanks to wealthy affiliate
Dont fall for his ad or Jeff Pauls scam here......I didnt...and cut my losses.....then you get sucked into the interview process.....and this rambles on...till they tell you they will bring you to Las Vegas to Jeff Pauls HQs and teach you how to run your website...how they establish the portal for you...and truely link you into the search engines......and they will only charge you an additioanl $7,000 for this wonderful info.....they try to get you to commit to it on your charge card..because you can make the costs back the first month and pay off you card even before its due......I called them all a bunch of thieves on the phone.....then I have gotten calls back from three different reps asking me how my sites were doing and was I still interested in coming out for the advanced program.....each time I told them not to solicit me again..or I would report improper telemarketing to the FCC....they immediately cut their losses and run....and me that information was noted on my file.....THESE FOLKS ARE THIEVES>>>>>>DO NOT FALL FOR THIS!!!
you guys are all dumb this world is being controled by Jews, do you think you have a chance to make millions! Olnly if your life was on the line :D
I have spent over 19 years in business development and marketing. What Jeff Paul is really providing is a website business template setup, that allows people with little or no internet experience to start their own web-based business. Now of course, you can do this from scratch yourself. To build a site; time, research, market and process payments the total would hit 60-80 hours minimum to get it launched correctly and about $3,000 - $5,000 for the site, tools, marketing and payament system setup. Jeff Pauls system simply is an "Affiliate"type program with hundreds of products and he makes money from everyone else making money. Same as I would do.... Why should I try to sell a thousand items when can get a thousand people to sell one item each (more of course would be great!) This is just like a free affiliate website from Amazon or eBay, only they may not make it so "cookie-cutter" setup simple for newbies.
As with any business, if you market yourself well, have a great and needed product, can compel people to buy online; then you will make money!!!
By the way, the 60-80 hours of reserch, setup and such is for those that even know how, when and where to start. 95% of internet users out there don't even know that majority of what this, and other systems like this, are charging for is "The knowledge". And we all know that knowledge is power, which equates to time and money... Try hiring someone to find info on the internet for you for free...;~)
People can find almost anything on the net, but they all want it NOW and for free...;~)
the problem seems to be of the claim that this program sells the dream that it will make you hundreds of thousands by 3 clicks. But what about using the program with a more realistic goal?
Keny,
Just think if you charged $5.00 per comment just look how much money you would of made since you started this web site
I enjoyed the women pitching the product. I thought they were pitching miracle bras.
Yeah frank, a lot of comments but the value I get from all these comments is priceless.
yeah but did you see the cans on them girls...thats all i was watching, and they were so bouncy and ohh so nice, me like
...if it sounds too good to be true,.....well,....you know the rest :)
People these Infomercial scammers have been around for almost 20 years. Several of them have gone to jail or been given huge fines by the courts.
Remember those two twin dwarfs and that latino guy and his wife selling realestate riches books? Total scams and the latino guy is doing 15 years in Federal Prison.
If you really want to make money on the internet, go to amazon or your bookstore and start buying legit Internet biz books from there. Easiest way to get started is to sell on ebay with a test product. After you get some sales, develop a web site, and then market your site (this will take money).
It will take anywhere from 10K to 20K to get your internet biz off the ground from advertising alone on google and yahoo and ad clicks, and this does not guarantee success.
Does anyone know which porn movies the brunette from the infomerical has appeared in?
@Guidos are Great - You can get an internet marketing business of the ground with no risk for much less than 10 - 20K. I've done it and so have many others that I talk to everyday on Wealthy Affiliate.
My question is where are all these people that give testimonies on tv about how much money they have made?I would love 20/20 or some news program do a story on them.Probably will not happen because who knows they might have signed some kind of contract to be only in his infomercial.
I know at least 2 of them are Jeff Paul's personal friends. The others probably are too.
Jeff Paul and Shawn Casey and all the other Gurus are making money off of poor people that are looking for a way to feed their family's and with unemployment and gas prices right now people are desperate and they are making money off their false advertising and their "it is so simple" advertising. They FAIL to tell the rest of the story and that is wrong. I mean, people do not buy from you unless they you can give them a good deal or great service and these guys sucker you into thinking you get all the info how to do this for their one price......COMPLETELY WRONG...........THERE ARE MORE FEES AND MORE MONEY TO SPEND TO DO WHAT THEY DO AT THEIR RANKING...............SO DO NOT FALL FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting discussion. I just saw the "Jeff Paul Infomercial" last night since I was suffering a bad case of jet lag after an international trip. :-)
If I didn't know better, I probably would be sucked in. The commercial is compelling if you don't know much about internet marketing or affiliate marketing.
I'm fairly new to the whole thing myself (been at it just over a year) and have built 3 websites so far. So you know I'm not lying, the sites are www.chocolate-candy-mall.com www.auto-insurance-helper.com and www.allaboutparasites.com
It's an awful lot of work, but the it does pay off if you have patience and persistence. I had to laugh at the claims on clicking 1,2,3 and the money starts rolling in. Why are we so gullible as to be taken in by such nonsense. I suppose it's the same hope of buying a lottery ticket. We dream of easy riches.
Who in their right mind who had the "secret" to making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month with little or no effort involved would tell that to others for only $39. No one! :-)
Don't be discouraged if you really do want to build an online business with affiliate marketing or another form of network marketing. You can do it if you're willing to work at it.
I don't have Wealthy Affiliate, but I know people that use it successfully. So I would agree with Kenny that it is one of the more reputable options. I've purchased Honest Riches. It's okay, but it really isn't "enough" in my opinion to get someone new to online marketing really going well.
The program I ended up using and loving is called SiteBuildIt. Without any prior web design or marketing experience, I'm using them to build and maintain my sites. If you want to take a look, you can find it at www.homemade-success.com
Just remember, it really does take a lot of work, but if you put in the work and stick with it, then YES, you can make money 24/7 with very little ongoing effort. That's the REAL story.
Blessings,
Angie
Does anyone have a website address to go to and actually see an example of one of these businesses?
jeff paul made millions of dollars from millions of idiots
Dave here You can it ... try it and give your opinion about it ..
I have watch his imformercials and i am not sure weather to get this stupid program or not. Ihave someone in church helping me right now or how to make money. Right now i am Going to start my music career the best way i know how through Gverment funds and when i heard about Jeff Paul shortcut Internet Millions i said oh Brother another scam artist until i saw everyone started saying how JP change their lives oh how JP RUIN THEIR LIVES until Wonda said not to judge Jeff Paul and giveit a Try and TabithaP said how she got tooked i want to be the judge for myself i want all of Jeff Paul's Customers to e-mail me and tell the real truth About Jeff Paul Before i pass judgement on him to see if his system works or not if i get 85% out of 10% it works If i get 100% out of 0 He is gulty and i will not buy the progam and we canmake sure this guy get of the air for life and he can sleep on the street far as i'm concern my e-mail address is eholtonjr@yahoo.com i want to hear about this Jeff Paul to see if he's for real or a con man.
To all of you that's been a victim of Jeff Paul the new Don Lepre of imformercials if you want to take legal action Against tha clown call an attorney and the Better Business bureau.Put that rooty toot behide bars that is where he belongs in the big house with the rest of the scum.
As i came home from church my Godfather told me everything about Jeff Paul the man is scum and eight yaers down the road he took him. Jeff paul is a crook,Con Artist, a Lier and a Horese Patoot he should be in jail for want he is doing and he should Refund everybody's money and get out of business.As victims of this guru this man should sufer and pay for his crimes for stealing all you good people's money that we all work so hard for the BBB should close him down and put that Rooty Poot Toot in the slam in sing sing where he belongs and this will teach him a Manners on how he rip off people Because Y'all make a living on want you do to let some to bit yankee steal Y'all's is money is down right Wrong and is Dispeacale let's put the Horeses behide in jail where he belongs.
WHATS REALLY A SHAME HERE IS THAT THE BROADCASTING TELEVISION CHANNELS ARE NOT HELD AT LEAST PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SCAM INFOMERCIALS. IF THEY AT LEAST FORCED THEIR CLIENTEL TO HONER THEIR GAURANTEES...? BUT OF COURSE, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE MONEY HAS BEEN PASSED TO SOME BUERACRATE TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. WHY ELSE WOULD INVESTGATION & CLASS ACTION SUITS TAKE SO LONG TO IMPLIMENT? IF SOMEONE IS BREAKING THE LAW OR EVEN THOUGHT TO BREAKING THE LAW, THEY SHOULD BE BUSTED OUT RIGHT OR AT LEAST THEIR ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE SUSPENDED UNTIL THEY ARE PROVEN TO BE INNOCENT
Ive learned, you just never buy ANYTHING off of infomecials. Especially something that you have to pay for, and then spend time and more money just for the oppurtunity to maybe make some money.
I first heard Jeff Paul's ad on the radio months ago. Of course, I thought "just another scam". Then I saw the infomercial this morning, and lol, the biggest thing that stuck out was the woman's breasts. Still, I was curious about "Jeff Paul", because I had never heard of him before, so I googled the product and his name..where I found this hub.
I'm glad I did.
A couple of years ago, I started researching ways to make money online. I paid for web hosting, and signed up for all kinds of affiliate programs. I spent countless hours working on my website. I actually enjoyed doing the work, but I didn't generate any income. That hasn't stopped me from still having the desire to achieve my goal of a web-based business.
I'd like to thank the people who've posted about their experiences after ordering Jeff Paul's product. Finding out things like having their credit cards charged each month, and exorbitant fees, is crucial to know. If it were merely the fact that it took hard work, that wouldn't stop me from trying something. But when it comes to parting with our hard-earned money just because someone wants to take it..well, then, everyone has the right to know that beforehand.
Thabithap Keep up the good work on what your doing and don't let that con man Jeff paul get away with Murder and make us all pround and i Know David Horowitz will be proud of you too.Again Keep up the good and Keny Luger get words from a get man good job Dude.
Thank you Ernest for your contributions.
Anytime Bud Anytime We all what to see Jeff Paul get send to the big house where he belongs he and Don Lapre make great good bed feliows Believe me they belong together two con artists in the same sack.
I love watching Jeff Paul's Internet Millions commercial just to see those two gals bend forward and flash their boobies. But I wouldn't buy the product. That's just me.
If I were a woman, that commercial would insult me. As it is, it already insults my intelligence. There is more work than just 3 clicks; just call Jeff's customer service and ask a lot of questions before ordering - I did. Ask what you really need to do and how much it will cost. Get all the facts, ask a lot of questions.
I am a real business man... and I can tell you from talking to Jeff Paul's customer service that this product does not include web domains, hosting, advertising (target marketing), merchant accounts, or shipping; at least not for $39.
This product will give you some templates, shortcuts, and directions on what you need to do after the 3-clicks.
You can go to places like GoDaddy.com and get domains and hosting; even merchant accounts. You will have to advertise and either ship, or find a drop shipper. Plus you'll need to go get products to sell. Jeff's group will help with this as well with their own hosting. The more help you need, well... get the credit card ready.
Eventually you will need a database to track customers and so on; maybe not at first (you actually need leads and customers before you can track them). All this is possible, but figure on investing a lot of time, work, and money for a real internet business that can market and pull-in leads (for products customers actually want).
Next you need to build-up response to marketing and converting them to customers (buyers). This takes education and experience. You can pay consultants (I have).
There's a whole lot more to it. It is a lot of work. There's a lot to learn. It is possible... but NOT for $39.
Sorry.
I believe in respect, honesty, and helping people willing to help themselves. If you've got the work-ethic and grit you can succeed.
Sales@InfoSourceGroupOnline.com (email is running; web site coming soon)
Just checked with the Better Business Bureau and Mentoring of America still has an unsatisfactory rating. Also the following:
Government Actions
On October 28, 2005 Mentoring of America, LLC entered into a settlement agreement with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection (the Division). According to the terms of the agreement, Mentoring of America, LLC agreed to comply with all requirements of the Utah Consumer Sales Practices Act, Utah Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, Business Opportunity Act and all other laws and rules administered by the Division applicable to them. The company agreed to pay an administrative fine to the Division, and make refunds by December 31, 2005 to consumers referenced in the agreement. The company also agreed to resolve and refund, without Division action, all other consumer complaints similarly situated under the Utah Consumer Sales Practices Act, Utah Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, and Utah Business Opportunity Act that are filed with the Division in the future and that occurred prior to this settlement agreement. The company further agreed to disclose in a clear and conspicuous manner the products and/or services represented in their sales presentations as well as whom will be providing those products and/or services. Nothing in the agreement should be construed as an admission of guilt or liability by Mentoring of America, LLC. As of January 10, 2007 the Utah Division of Consumer Protection ("Division") and Mentoring of America, LLC, John Beck Amazing Profits, LLC and Jeff Paul ("Defendants") stipulated and agreed to the following:1. Defendants shall pay a fine in the amount of $25,000.00 to the Division;2. Defendants shall comply with the notice provisions relating to the three day right to cancel as required by law. Additionally, the Defendants shall clearly disclose the products and/or services represented in their sales presentations as well as the identity of the entity that will be providing these services;3. Defendants shall work with the Division in resolving consumer complaints;4. the Defendant has provided information and documents required in order to complete its application for a telemarketing permit;5. Upon execution of this Stipulation, the Division shall issue a telemarketing permit to Mentoring of America;6. Defendants shall comply with all of the requirements of the Utah Consumer Sales Practices Act, the Utah Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, and all other laws and rules administered by the Division;7. The Settlement Agreement entered into between Mentoring of America and the Division shall remain in full force and effect except as modified by this Stipulation.
One look at the internet millions add and you can see that Jeffs sales concept must be "cleavage sells".
I admit, I tried the system. It sucks. Oh yeah, if you return it, you get to keep the 10 websites for trying. If these websites were worth anything (which is what you are selling) why would he give them away?
Correct me if I'm wrong but are you not doing an affiliate sales pitch here. When we click on the site it gives a unique code in the URL, your personal code. They know that I am going through your link and are you not getting paid for that. And if that’s the case how are we supposed to trust your opinion on anything when you are, in reality, just making a buck for yourself. I am the marketing director for one of the biggest ROP media companies and I know marketing. Please don't get me wrong, I am not saying that the places that you are directing us are not worth looking at, but the honest thing would be to tell us that by directing us to this site you are indeed being an affiliate.
Scott Jeff Paul is the New Don Lapre of the Century trust me you be Better off Starting your own Business and take a page out of Tabithap's hand book and don't get Caught up on his get rich Quick Nonsence Keny Luger and me are on the Same Page Jeff Paul is no Good and he Belongs in Jail.Let get this guy off the Air before somebody will lose their Income and i say Call the BBB and put him Out Of Business Be fore is too Late and while Your at it Get rid of the Websites you'll be doin yourself a Favor.Good luck Bud
How about towards the end of the infomercial the Brunette walks over to her computer and says "Like Oh My Gawd, I made another 300 dollars since we been here" hahahahaha what a bunch of crock. If I were a woman Id be deeply offended
Well put Brian Well put i be offenden my Self if i were a woman i Think Jeff Paul should just pack it in and just leave the Country Better yet he should leave the Planet and leave us Alone and get a life if he has one.He is a Disgrace to the people of the United States and to the good peolpe all over God green Earth and he should close his Business for good God help us all.
I've looked at all this crap for years and know enough about good marketing to know what works and what doesn't. All these late night info-mercial products are the same be it internet web-site systems or real estate programs. It's this simple folks.. FIRST they are making money off just selling you "how to information". --With the real estate stuff its "how to buy cheap real-estate" or "how to buy tax deeds" (that homeowners actually have a year to repay) or these "internet business systems" are actually the worst. First they get you with the initial "system" purchase and once you buy into their system, their web-hosting, and their domain names then they want you to create a new pipline by which people will then buy YOUR "system". (the same thing under a new name...) Thus the person you bought yours from gets a piece of your new sales and then successive profits from the sales your new clients generate and so on. This is MLM -Multi Level Marketing 101 here! So once the original "Queen Bee" has 1000 workers (or suckers) in the downstream pipeline then those at the top of the chain start seeing much larger profits while those newbies at the bottom see the lowest profit (untill they start growing their own chain of course) - And what all this does of course is also flood the internet with the same exact "system" marketed under a gazillion different looking personal home pages which all serve to disguise the same exact "system" so that you really don't know what is what anymore when in fact most all of it is the exact same program!!!! Again..the product you sell IS the MLM system itself so in fact it really isn't a real product at all but more of a re-disguised invitation to join a "pipeline" and become a new cog in a much larger wheel or money funnel if you will. Once again only when you start growing your own downstream pipeline will you see any profit. The only other way to make money with an internet based business is to of course just go get your own domain on your own, get an e-commerce account, and sell a real product like shoes or something tangible in which case you have to purchase real product at real wholesale to then sell at retail. AND then you either have to have it drop shipped or ship it yourself ..all of which takes alot of logistics, time, and money ___HOWEVER__ the downside of this is..yes you guessed it...NO PIPELINE which is the whole reason why these MLM Gurus want to sell you their "system" because its a money pipeline of an intangible "product"which requires no inventory, no stock, no shipping..no nothing. Again this "product" or "system" is really just a percieved value of something that actually does not even exist! - It's actually quite brilliant yet worthless in actual tangible value to the end user unless they keep selling it to someone else...and unless of course you are the guy at the top of the food chain who is laughing all the way to the bank. (and that's why they are the "master marketers" with the big bucks...who can afford late night info-mercials!)
Kenneth From all of us to you Thank you For the Imformation that we need now we can put all those con artists be hined bars where they belong and to all of you that has been Rip of by that jerk Jeff Paul and hi code Horns Jim Fleck and John Beck e-mail to the Consumer Protection www.consumerprotection.utah.gov and put these people where they belong in the Clink and you might as put Don Lapre in there with them. Also Wonda and Tracy Esau to me a Favor GET REAL JOBS WILL YA GIVE US A BREAK oh Wonda mrs. Imade 200,000.00 nothing in life is free get a real job lady thank you.
I want to Thank Robert For all his Hard work and for gien us the imformation so we can put that Rooty Poot Toot Jeff Paul and his core Horns in the big house where they Belong.I want everyone to e-mail to www.consumerprotection.utah.gov and put that fool out of Business he doesn't needto be out on the streets free so he can con people with his get rich Boosh wha.iwould like to justice done and the jeff paul ripoff gang behind prison walls so they can not rip off people no more they are a cancer and a Problem to the good people of our country God bless america let Freedom ring for all of us and again Wonda GET A JOB LADY PLEASEEEEEE.
Wether it is a SCAM or not. The creator is still making tons of money. The thing is that they know what to do to bring in tons of money. They know what is the marketing strategies. However, all the knowledge will not come overnight. One has to put in hard works, effort or even some investment to obtain the successful results.
Very true John. Jeff Paul is a seasoned marketer who has been making money on and offline and he does know what it takes to sell a product. Problem is he went a little overboard with this system by giving people false hope and according to some of the reviewers, practicing shady behind the scenes business. Its quite a shame.
Thanks for joining the discussion.
I am glad I ran over this hub! I have also seen the infomercial and wondered about it. Thanks so much for the story and to those who have left their comments on here........and I agree with a home business taking work on a person's part.
I think Jeff Paul is a person whom makes tons of money selling a false concept to people in need ( that to me is a scam ) Some may make money , but if he was so successful why would he spend so much time and money to advertising ??? Ipersonally think he makes the money from selling the idea to other people !!!!
Watched the infomercial this morning. I love how Jeff Paul tries to entice men to sign up by using busty women to promote his product! It is sooo classy to use women with baring cleavage to sell, sell, sell...give me a break! Can you say scam! Don't fall for it people!
Please Please Please People! Learn to spell! Nothing says ignorance more than the inability to spell the English language. You can't make it in business unless you can spell and read coherently.I agree that this site is a scam - the women with the huge boobs are ridiculous - I wonder if either of them are making money doing this?? Very laughable to say the least.
I almost fell for this infomercial, I probably would have fliped right passed it if it wasnt for 2 girls showing all the cleavage. : ) It kept my attention (The Cleavage) for about 10 min. Just enough time to see what he is selling. Even though I'm almost sure it is a scam, he does know how to market his item.......Through the mighty BREAST !
I need to know which one is the best i just lost my job and i need something to pay the bills!
Unfortunately, I came across this hub about 3 days too late. I purchased the Jeff Paul Shortcut to Internet Millions. I'm chalking it up to a weak moment (brainfart, if you will). Well, not only did I get the first initial package of useless books and CD's, I decided to go ahead and purchase the rest of the materials and BS that goes along with it for a hefty price (1000's of dollars) after a long, drawn-out conversation with a very persuasive man on the phone that lasted almost 2 hours. I'll chalk that one up to the glass of wine I had prior to the phone call (clouded my judgement). So, I received the set of materials in the mail today. I have not opened it because I plan to return it. I called to cancel my service with Jeff Paul and was told that I would be contacted by someone from the Resolution Center within 24 business hours. They refused to give me a cancellation number or anything of the sorts that my credit card company needs to not post the transaction to my account. I would sincerely appreciate any and all replies, suggestions or comments to this post on what you think I should do. Thank you!
lol The girls are litterally bending forward into the camera to show their cleavage off, shameless, I saw through it from a mile away, and that's coming from someone who has gotten drunk and purchased not one but three electric razors that didn't work from an infomercial
Hey tstrode, If they would not honor your request for a refund, I would file a complaint not with Jeff Paul's people but with your credit card company so that they could do a chargeback. There is usually nothing Jeff Paul's people can do if the credit card company does a chargeback on the transaction.
Thanks, Keny. I have talked to the credit card people that are willing to work with me as far as filing a dispute if necessary. I have contacted Jeff Paul's people for a third time today and still no results. They keep telling me that someone from the Resolution Center will give me a phone call within 24 "business" hours to confirm my cancellation of the service. From my calculations, the 24 business hours ends this time tomorrow, so we'll see where I get by then.
Sean:
I have as much testosterone as most guys but when I saw those twits (no typo tWits) I wondered what they were selling.
After all, to get someone to part with their dollars something must be offered. Maybe it is a product, service or knowledge but there must be some worth to it. Buying a “system” would imply that one is buying knowledge. If the only knowledge offered is a “system” it would seem that the whole thing is nothing more than a pyramid scheme. Given the ubiquity of the Internet and the desire of most people to get paid for actually doing little, It would seem one is more likely to be on the bottom of the pyramid rather than the top.
Do research on how to rise to the top of a google search for your product, service or knowledge and do it on your own. That’s the best way to make millions on the Internet.
By the way, it’s easy to make $40,000 per month. Just buy $100,000 of stuff and sell it for $40K. Ergo, "I made $40K last month." Net –net profit is king!
Just an update...if anyone is interested...I finally got my phone call from the "resolution center" who happened to be the same person that persuaded me in the first place. He was rude and nasty with me when I refused to reconsider (even if he gave it to me for 1/2 of what I bought it for). After 10 minutes of repeatedly telling him no, I just want to cancel my service, he made me call another 888 number to get a cancellation number. I called that number and got the run-around again for another 15 minutes. Finally, a nice woman named Tiffany decided to try to resolve my issue and even told me that I didn't need to return any of the materials I received and that I could just use it for firewood if I wanted which I thought was funny being that only 4 days prior to that it was worth 1000's of dollars. Finally, after calling 7 different 800/888 numbers and talking to 9 different people, I think that I got everything cancelled and the issue resolved. My advice to anyone even contemplating buying anything from Jeff Paul is to stay far away. Just the customer service alone is a rat race. Don't let them take you for a ride. I truly believe it is a scam. Russ had some good advice about doing the work yourself and research how to rise to the top of a google search. There are plenty of ways to do it yourself better and cheaper if you just put the time and effort into it. Hope this has helped anyone doing research on Jeff Paul and his system BEFORE buying into it! Learn from my and many others mistakes! It will save you money and headaches!
tstrode, thank for sharing your experience trying to get your refund. I don't think those people you talked to know anything about marketing themselves or they wouldn't try to force the sale...makes them look desperate which isn't a good look.
Some good insight from Russ. Thanks for sharing.
Ok. If this Jeff Paul is a scam, which seems like it is. Where can I get information on how to start an internet marketing business? Is there a "system" or "program" I can purchase? How about some sort of seminar? I guess what I am asking is... "How do you learn the business?" local community college? interet marketing course online? Any suggestions??
Hey Gus, you can take a look at the Wealthy Affiliate site. I am also a member there so I can personally vouch for it.
Gus:
I think I found a new career. For now it is for free – Define Internet marketing! You can’t make money doing it unless you know what it is!
Marketing – define customer needs (hint – there are a bunch of folks on the internet) what need are you going to fulfill for these millions of people? How are you going to deliver it? What will it cost? What will the market pay? How do you collect money? How do you structure your company so that when money floods into your pocket; you don’t pay more than you can in tax?
Earning money is WORK. If you don’t want to put in the time, you won’t earn a dime. Many of the schemes you see that advertise Internet marketing revolve around creating traffic to a particular site. That is ADVERTISING. Some of the process can be automated but no matter how much is, it still requires an effort on your part.
I’ll give you a seminar, tell you that making money by sitting at home drinking beer and watching TV is almost impossible but you wouldn’t pay for that. Particularly now, hold onto your wallet. Unless you are an idiot you can figure it out on your own.
BTW, any of you considering this “opportunity”, know the difference between a “web site” and your own domain name that you personally own.
After seeing the "tWits" on an infomercial this morning, and trying to pay close attention to the topic discussed, I believe they are trying to put some of the concepts contained in the book "The 10-Hour Work Week" basically in a box. That said, after reading this thread, Paul is also distorting the message and the process. It is clearly NOT as simple as he states. Further, customer service is paramount, and from Gus's story, Paul could care less. "The 10-Hour Work Week" clearly and honestly lays out internet marketing, drop shipping, and all other aspects, and couples it with the one missing element from most internet marketing concepts: mentally preparing yourself with the mindset to help you do what WORKS and stop doing what wastes your time. Please take a look at the book. I bought the audio book and have listened to it twice -now it is time to execute. Good Luck all.
I LOVE HOW THIS PAGE WAS SET UP SO THIS GUY CAN PROMOTE HIS CLICKBANK AFFILIATE LINKS WHICH ARE PROPABLY SCAM EBOOKS TOO!!!
Anybody who even thinks twice about ordering anything from an infomercial is fucking retarted. Jeff Paul is a gloryhole marauder and you can be too if you order his shit. One of the citations above:"I have wasted so much money on these infomercial products that give you high hopes with no results. The only useful thing i got from this infomercial was the cleavage on the brown haired hottie."Are you fucking serious? High hopes from armchair perusing the television screen as you collect unemployment all day and fart stink up your sofa cushions then smell them then beat your kids and punish fuck your wife as soon she gets home from stocking shelves at some loser infested rural grocery trough...As for the $6500.00 that everyone lost for spending $39.99 to buy this refuse and following through with it...I hope Jeff Paul is spending all your monies on fuckin' shit like hookers and blow while your torturing your meat bats and sperm chutes with a clinched fist drooling over the topical scripting of all the testimonials on his infomercials. Anybody who buys this, or if I hear another sad story about someone getting scammed (or not), I am going to call the police and tell them to arrest your parents for not wearing a dick sheath or a clam curtain and infecting the gene pool with loser fucks who amount to nothing because there heads are fried from buying into stupid dummy shit. Thanks for your time,Jeff Paul
Hey tstrode you did the right thing Likr i said before Jeff Paul is a Crook and should be locked up for ripping off othr people's money i'm glad you setted your problem with those sneaky Cock Roaches for what they did to you and others.Take Robert's advice and Call the BBB and they'll take care of Mr. Jeff Paul the Don Lapre of the Century.I would like to thank Again to Keny Luger and to all now i Know Jeff Paul is Really A Crook and A Scam Artist Just think i Was goona send for the Package But hearing what you People went through i'm glad i Did'nt so let's take the Advice of Our Good friend Robert and e-mail to the Consumer protection and put Jeff Paul Out Of Business Once and For All that Guy is Acrook And He is EEEEEEEEEEvil And needs to give back the money he Stole from all you nice People.
Internet marketing and home base business are real and some are not.. You have to find the company or product that works for you.. Doing research is very helpful because you can find testimonies on real people who are really making money..
I found a internet business that really work.. You just have to treat it like a business and not a hobby like some people.. Also you have to have tough skin in this industry because everyone is not going to believe you or understand what you are doing.. not that it don't work they just dont understant it..
Go to my website www.ytb.com/udohtravel and click on presentation.. If i don't make sense please run from my page but if it do.. continue doing research also i have my info posted on my site.. There are a lot of people making a extra $100- to $180,000 per month.. so whatever you want we can fit you in the somewhere..
There are 3 steps to success.. DREAM, STRUGGLE, SUCCESS.. But NEVER give up.. Thank You
To QualityRules, I hope you realize that I don't promote scams. I cant leave people hanging so its my duty to point them in the right direction. Yes, I do get paid if someone makes a purchase through my link but as I always say, everyone has a choice and should ALWAYS do their research first.
I make the recommendations because I believe in them because they've helped me understand 'making money online' better.
I just saw Jeff Paul's New set up oh Brother Now with new Women These are real people not Paid Actors We don't pay them a dime todo this GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK.I don't by that Mumpo Jumbo They are Actors doin this for a living and making money by doin so Hey Jameson Pomalonsky i don't Blame you for Blowing your top But the Cusing Bring it down a Notch Kay dude again i know how you feel Jeff Paul has got us all and the only way to stop him is to report him to the BBB and the FBI and they'll take care of him again i feel your pain my Friend just say some prayers and god and let god see you through Jeff Paul will get his in the end Trust me he will get his soon you'll see and everything will be alright Jeff Paul will be Put out of Business and we are the People that will do it that i Promise.
HEY FOLKS, BILLY MAYS HERE FOR JEFF PAUL.
IF YOUR LOOKING FOR A GREAT PLACE TO RELIEVE ALL OF THE STRESS THAT COMES WITH HAVING MONEY, JEFF PAUL HAS A SIMPLE YET EFFECTIVE SOLUTION FOR YOU*thumbs up*
FIRST WE WILL NEED YOUR CONFIDENCE ( shouldn't be hard because you're probably high,broke,unemployed and easily persuaded.)
NEXT WE WILL NEED YOUR CREDIT CARD INFO. ( go get your CC you lazy, smelly, ketchup sandwich eating, Nickelback listening and all around piece of shit)
NOW THAT WE HAVE YOUR INFO, WE WILL LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR BEST INTEREST (couldn't be further from the truth. we couldn't be arsed to what happens to you)
AFTER WE ROB YOU OF ALL OF YOUR FUNDS,( or tax payers money since most of you are on some kind of government assistance)
I WILL PERSONALLY SEND YOU AN AUTOGRAPHED PHOTO OF MYSELF,JEFF PAUL AND SOME RANDOM MEXICAN HOLE NAMED AMORITA MAKING SWEET LOVE ON A MOUNTAIN OF MONEY.*thumbs up*
SO CALL NOW IF YOU HAVE CUNT WRITTEN ACCROSS YOUR FOREHEAD
OPERATORS ARE STANDING BY
*HUGE THUMBS UP*
I imagine you put a lot of work into that comment so I'll leave it. Watch the language eh people.
Billy Mays Hey Bub We Weren't Born yesterday you Know If you Want to Rob someone go rob a bank and leave these nice people alone you and all these people that Put out your Prouducts are not worth two Cents of a Dime not even a Nickel so why don't you guys do us a favor GET A REAL JOB FOOL AND DON'T BOTHER US HARD WORKING PEOPLE YOU NERD.and While Were on the Subject take the Advice of my Good Friend Keny Luger The Comment you work hard on leave it and watch The Bad Language Buddy and leave us alone and don't bother us Pally go on and Get a life please THANK YA PUNK and again keny luger keep on Surporting us man good job and billy tell Jeff Paul,Don Lapre and Charlton Sheets to Go Dance with the DEVIL AND LEAVE US ALONE YOU SONS OF THE DEVIL UNDERSTAND BUSTER GET A LIFE GOT IT GET A FREAKING LIFE PUNK. OR WE WILL CALL THE BBB FIND A JOB FOOL.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT GOT JEFFS PRODUCT AND IT ACTUALLY MADE THEM SOME MONEY?
Wonda (5th comment) makes like 100 - 200 000 a month. I think it might be pesos or something...
Seriously though I have yet to see credible proof from anyone that has purchased and made money with Jeff Paul's system.
I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CONFUSED............................................
you guys have way to much time on your hands, if you are watching paid programming at 3.00 am
I guess I"ve been living in a cave, because I only today saw Jeff Paul's infomercial and it immediately put me in mind of Kevin Trudeau's infomercials. ( He is someone I'm convinced is a scam artist, but that's just my opinion).
I had never heard of Jeff Paul before seeing his infomercial this afternoon. Watching it and hearing all the "key phrases" that they use to entice the public convinced me that it wasn't something I wanted to listen to. Out of curiosity I came to google to see if there were any complaints about him and found this site. Key words or phrases that sound too good to be true, generally are too good to be true. The only time I've ever heard of anyone "getting rich quick" is when someone won a lottery.
I've enjoyed reading the comments here, although some of the grammer and spelling errors made me wince several times. I hope that if any of you who are guilty of these errors are out there trying to make your mark on the internet you take the time to use spell check. Not very many people will take you or your ads seriously if you cannot spell correctly.
I won't comment on anyone's opinions or internet marketing skills or lack thereof, since I don't understand alot of that area. I will give Kudos to whomever suggested ebay, as that is one avenue that has enabled me to suppliment my income. I didn't get rich, or even come close to it, but having an ebay store enabled me to pay utility bills, buy groceries, and just survive when my "day job" wasn't enough to make ends meet. It is do-able. And it's not as hard as you might think. If I'm allowed to make some suggestions, here is some time savers that may help someone else. I took the long way, so if I can help someone else, I believe in sharing info without needing to be paid for it. This info is free, and it's out there for everyone to use if you know where to look for it.
I made some extra income from ebay by selling household items, entertainment in the form of used books, dvds, music etc. I had alot of things in my home I was tired of dusting, so I took digital photos of what I wanted to sell, and loaded them on ebay. 1-10 items a day kept an ongoing income for me for several months. If I loaded everything at once, I'd be done with my "auctions" in one week. So I started out small, and built up, and kept an ongoing auction each week. I never sold everything I had to sell, but things I didn't expect to bring very much, actually brought in really high prices. ( one cd was fought over by several bidders and finally sold for $78.00. It's just not always easy to determine what people are looking for. What was unique about my store was the inventory was always changing, which brought back repeat business. People wanted to see what I had "in stock" each week. When I ran out of things in my home to sell, I'd go to yard sales, thrift stores, etc. and sell items I bought from there. Lamps, knickknacks, wall art, etc. Some of my inventory was other people's stuff that they didn't want to bother with, so I would sell it on my store and get a commission if their item sold.
USPS.com will supply you with free shipping boxes, and bubble mailers for dvds, and videos, and small items. The post office has many discontinued boxes in different sizes they will ship to you for free if you go to their website and check what's there. I would suggest you take the time to create an email address with Yahoo or hotmail that can duplicate the name of your store. Ebay's store fee was $15/month at the time I was using it, and you also have additional fees for listing your items, etc. Do some research, and take the time to find out what you need to get started. I didn't get rich, but it really helped support me when I was in desparate times. It didn't cost me anything to start out my store, and I was able to have several auctions the first week that panned out into enough income for me to have a profit after the fees, etc.
Another thing you might check into is having a "store account" at UPS. They bill you monthly, so it enabled me to ship items that needed to be shipped when I didn't have the money for the shipping fees. They put it on my account, which gave me a month to collect money from buyers, and then pay UPS back at the end of the month. They will even allow you to set it up as an automatic withdrawal from your checking account. At least the UPS store I used did. As far as having NO INVESTMENT to start out, ebay was one of the best venues I found that allowed me to run some auctions, get items shipped out, and still have the profit I needed to pay some bills. I hope some of this info is helpful to someone who may need it someday.
Thanks for everything you are doing to help inform people.
Thanks for sharing castlecollector.
I have had a blog for a year... orginally making money with afliate programs was why started blogging!
I have been really scared and unsure in how to start!
Thanks for a great post
I bought the Jeff Paul CDROM based Internet Millions course.
It was a set of very poorly structured CDs, some of which had 3 or 4 small .PDF files and the rest of the disk filled with Adobe Reader and other freely available crap.
Some of the disks had videos which are mostly the looooog version of how Jeff paul and a few other people were dirt poor and suffering before they, BLAH BLAH...
VERY little real info on the initial set of disks, for $85
The purchase also includes a REQUIRED membership (first month free) in a web site hosting/preconfigured website structure. The HTML included is VERY primitive single page sales letter sites designed to sell the e-book crap that is all over Click-Bank.
I cancelled the membership after 20 day, and asked for the full refundm, and sent the crappy CDS back.
I got my money back after about 40 days, and some new sales guy calls me about every 3 weeks to "upsell" me on another add-on that wil generte more $$$ for Jeff Paul.
The infomercial is offensivey dumb, even with the fine cleaveage that both women keep bending forward to show us, but I had HOPED that there would be some real, useable, worhthwhile information in the CDs.
There was not. Its all worthless fooblah designed to dazzle the non-web-literate purchaser for long enough to run them past the "guarantee" period.
OH, yeah, and the salesmen that call to upsell you are about 70% hard-sell assholes that try to make you feel inadequate and undermotivated if you do not gush and fawn over their program.
SO, don't waste your time or money,
Jeff Paul Internet Millions IS A SCAM!
So, if these programs are scams, why don't our "elected" officials ( U.S. congress representatives) do something to protect us from these predators? It's appalling to see how many people get scammed and they don't do anything.
Also:
THANKS to Keny Luger for this excellent (and entertaining!) hub!
GJ Keny!
And, to these MORONS that contributed:
KwesiscwealthlamorDoodlenickTracy Esau
HOW DARE YOU defend this "marketing wizerd" Jeff Paul?
He is the snake oil salesman of the 21st century!
Remember kiddies: just because Jeff Paul hasn't been shut down by the Federal Trade Commission yet, for misrepresenting products and services, and overchargng for freely available info, and MAKING MONEY DOING IT, doesn't mean that it's LEGAL, MORAL or ETHICAL.
Want to be successful? Try doing it by being legal, moral, and ethical.
Then you'll be able to sleep well, not look over your shoulder for the cops every instant, and live with your own conscience.
Jeff Paul will be brutally murdered for his car, or his gold necklace, or something, because he has bad karma, because he takes hopeful people's money under false pretenses. Period.
Thanks again to Keny for this great hub!
Made my freakin' day! Knives_guy, thank you so much for that in depth review of Jeff Paul's scam product...that is exactly what I was looking for. A real review from a real customer. I'm glad you actually got something out of the hub.
To all the Jeff Paul defenders, I hope you're making wheelbarrows of cash right now. "wanda" up there must be up to a million right now.
If you guys spent your time following Jeff's system and not bitching about things you never had the guts to try you would probably be well off.I've used Jeff's systems and have made a ton of money. I would like to see a post in here from someone that actually used his system not just bought his course and never did anything with it.You guys keep bitching about the guru's and you will continue to be broke your entire lives.
Think about your crap? Keep whining and calling Jeff a scam. What all you guys are doing is just taking your insecurities out on Jeff.
You guys don't have the balls to start your own business and take a risk and to make you feel better about yourself you call Jeff a scam.
You should look in the mirror and see who the real scam in your life is.
The reason your life sucks is YOUR FAULT.
The reason id didn't work for you is you quit.
The only person scamming you guys are your freaking selves.
So stop bitching and do something with your lives.
Jeff is that you?
I don't know about this program or the get rich quick programs .. but I have three successful web sites on the internet that I built through Site Build It .. it was not overnight and not super easy but it does work . I could not be happier with my sites and the program. It is a learing curve but not that steep and you will make money if you work hard at it.
thanks for your post
Models fashion advice.
Hey Not a Wimp Who do you think you are oh yeah it Has to be you Right Jeff oh boy Lisent up Pal we are Law Biding citizens have aright to Speak up and be Heard.You Cockroaches have taken all of our money and made us all look like fools you certins have no heart and no soul want so ever. Jeff paul is that really you because we all know you are a wimp i have to a gree with Keny Luger that must be you no one would have Know it was you Who Would Have used Not a Wimp so why don't you let us do our thing and you Mind your Own Business okay Buddy get a Life and leave us alone Boy Dig What i'm Sayin And Keny Luger said right Jeff is that you.
To tstrode's comments a few weeks back, the reason why the responder was so nasty on the phone with you when you tried to cancel your upgrade and get your money back was because you were cutting into his personal profits! I know this because like kenneth i also used to work as a telemarketer for ONE these companies. I was one of those hard-sell assholes taht knivesguy tallked about. I will not state which one as i still have friends that work there and will remain loyal to them, but i will let everyone know that i used to call these people from a list i recieved of who had bought the intial program. I would then talk to them for many hours sometimes until i had made the "pitch" and sold them the "rest" of the program and and training for varying amounts, usually from 2,000 to 11,000 dollars depending on what the customer was willing to invest into their "business". It was a VERY high pressure sale. Once i got their credit card # that was the end of the pitch and i do not know what was done with it after that , but i do know i made a very hefty commision from each of these sales. I accually made more than most people would have ever made on their own internet marketing sites just by selling the "bonus" programs to them. usually about 3,000 to 15,000 a month depending on how many pitches i landed. pretty good money for a 20 year old with no formal schooling after high school. We told the leads that we were "selecting them for a very specail group of motivated people" and other nonsense like that. If they sounded unsure we would tell them that "maybe they werent the type of person we were looking for to offer this special promotion or club to" like kenneth i feel bad for ripping people off and if i ever did it to anyone here personally, then i am sorry, but i wanted to live the young bachelor life with alot of money to spend on parties and women. If you have strong people skills and are a fast thinker then i suggest you find a job at one of these marketing companies if you want to make around 100,000 a year or more. that is if you dont mind taking money from these hapless fools after spending hours on the phone with them and even getting to know them a bit... Its kind of sad really. Now i make a living working hard long days for weeks in a row. Over 84 hours a week. I drill for coal-bed methane and geothermal pockets. Very labor intensive, but very hefty paychecks and about 10 days off in a row after working for 21 das striaght.
I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this hub. Thanks Keny for keeping it "real". I just wanted to give a little update...it's been 6 weeks since I cancelled my Jeff Paul service (refer to prior comments). All went okay with the credit cards, etc. The only problem I am still having is that I get a phone call at least 4 times a week from someone different every time ( of course) from Jeff Paul's team telling me that they want to give me "free" advice and invite me to be a part of some "free" e-course they are having at 2 p.m. that afternoon, etc. etc etc. Every time I tell them that I cancelled my service with Jeff Paul and don't want anymore phone calls. They try to work a different angle with me to get me to listen to their "free" information and then finally hang up mad at me because I refuse to listen. It has become quite amusing, but also annoying. However, I still stand by my previous comment about doing the work yourself...or maybe that was Russ's comment. Either way, if you really want to have an internet business and make money at it then you truly do have to put the time and effort into it. Models Fashion made a comment about 6 days ago saying that he/she used SiteBuildIt to launch 3 websites. I also came across this SiteBuildIt program and I am almost ready to "go live" with my first website. I am so excited and proud that I did it myself and don't have to worry about idiots like Jeff Paul making money off of me. This program is really inexpensive and a great tool to have if you want your own website. It sounds like I work for them, but I don't. I just want someone else that may be looking for the same thing that I was 6 weeks prior this to look into this program and see if they find what I did. It's honest, real and worth the time and money that you will put into it. Good Luck and thanks again to Keny for having this great hub for people to share their successes and failures. Some of you people really have some strong opinions. Maybe if you focused that energy into doing something for yourself or helping someone else instead of whining and making fun of people that are just trying to help others then you might actually like yourself! I won't mention any names...uhuhuh...ReasonMachine (what a potty-mouth)!
tstrode, I'm really glad that you found something that works. I haven't used SiteBuildit since I'm doing Wealthy Affiliate but it is definitely a good program...you have my word on that. Thanks for the update.
I recently purchased Jeffs system , I did my 3 clicks and have been collecting cash like no other , I made $3,000 my first week , I have since quit my day job and sit around the house and travel. in the past few months I have made close to $2 million dollars , the money keeps rolling in , I upgraded and bought his VIP package , it set me up with 10 money making websites the first month and every month after that , those alone in 3 months (30 websites) are bringing me close to $10,000 a week from each site.
This system works ! to you nay sayers , you can wait for Obama to fix your life and hand you cash , but it won't happen , go out and grab it by the balls and do it ! $39.99 you will waste more than that on dinner and movie in the hopes of getting laid that night , this will CHANGE your life and it's CHANGE you can believe in , not that false hope that Obama is dishing out !
Make it now while you can, the depression is on its way , and you want to have stacks of cash on hand when it happens.
Say what you want ,I make nearly $250,000 a month and each month it grows.
Joe Joe, I honestly thought you'd at least put one of your website urls in the website field so that you can get a link back...and so that we could see what the sites look like. Can you show us one of these sites? I mean, more traffic couldn't hurt you right!?
Another thing...If people CANT believe you, how can you make money online? Point is...no one believes you... at least not me.
I make a modest amount of money online without having to decieve people. I don't make millions but my family is quite happy that they can have whatever they want when they want it.
You sound just like the nonsensical testimonials that shamelessly appear all over Jeff Paul's Shortcuts to internet Millions infomercial.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Joe Joe: I would love to go to just one of your thirty websites that you claim to be making a quarter of a million dollars a month with just to see how spectacular these websites of yours is so that I can learn something from you...it's all about the traffic, right?! So, give us all a website to visit to check out your amazing money making skills...that might make believers out of us, who knows?!
It's all a bunch a bull. There are no shortcuts to becoming a millionaire. If that were the case the economy wouldn't be so messed up and we all would be rich. I seen and done it all.. bunch of crap. Just get an education and do something ground up with a foundation.
Right on, Ashley! Maybe my sarcasm didn't come through clearly in my last post addressing Joe Joe, but believe me, you definitely have to put forth the effort in order to gain anything worth having in life. There is a reason GOOD things in life don't come easily. "How to succeed? Try hard enough." --Malcom Forbes
The funny thing about all of the people claiming that all the internet and infomercial people are scammers are scammers themselves.. Look at all the review sites about John Paul and everyone else. It all ends with hey look what I can offer you instead. Just like this guy. He's promoting the university and any other training he did. THEY ARE ALL SCAMMERS.. If it was easy to make money do you think we would be in a recession????
Guy, people deserve to know what works and what doesn't and thats all I'm offering. Just like everything else you should always do your research and the stuff I recommend is no exception. I would never try to swindle or hustle people out of their hard earned money especially in these tough times.
If you want to make money on the internet you need a product or service someone wants or needs. Very simple concept.
Then you need to be able to, yes, the magic word, 'MARKET' it.
Find a product and 'learn' how to market it.
Jeff Pauls claims are rediculous. What his is trying to sell is his 'package'. Thats how he's making his money. He probably did it with mailing list and magazine advertisment before the internet came along. No doubt he's made millions doing it. Its just not for me. I like sleeping at night.
Oh, gotta give him credit for the hotties he use's to make his pitch though. :}
I like make that money my work good job . I don"t no mony pay my ower house right now . I get other house .
Im a college student and im really looking for a money making op. and this morn i saw john ps system on tv........, well needless to say that im kinda shakey on the subject now but i really need to know if there is anyone who has tried the system and have falied. also im about one step from buying the system so if anyone knows the truth tell me if im really about to make a big mistake!
well seems like im answering my own qs but thanks to keny l and tstrode i will not be buying this system it sounds like a headache and that is something i do not want. thanks again guys.... Merry Christmas or whtevr suits your liking
Glad to help Brandon J. Kudos to you for doing your homework BEFORE purchasing Jeff Paul's crap. Merry Christmas to you, too!
How did his name go from "Jeff Paul" to "John Paul".
is he marketing under different names too?
I have no idea. His name is Jeff Paul.
Joe Joe did you hear this song i heard on the Oldie's Radio is Called GET A JOB Bub WE DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD YOU SAID DUDE I SAID IT ONCE I SAID IT SO MANY TIMES THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS PERIOD SO STOP YOUR LYING AND KENY LUGER SAID AND I'M SAYING IT WE DON'T BELIEVE A DOG GONE THING YOU SAID AND WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU SO DO US ALL A FAVOR GET A JOB AND SHUT UP FOOL YOU BIG DUMMY HEAD CHUMP.
Jeff Paul is the brother of Bernard Madoff
I think you maybe right jeff paul's system is a scam they show those cars which cost about 200,000 dollars and they charge you an arm and a leg for it and he says you can make 30,000 to 100,000 a month that is impossible 2 or 3 thousand dollars a month yes a year's pay in a month I don't think so there is for sure something fishy about jeff's system I just can't seem to put my finger on it. I almost tried their system but when I saw it on TV I told myself wait a minute that is to good to be true. All Jeff is doing is scamming people out of money to make himself richer.
One more thing has anyone tried Honest Riches yet and anyone know if it is for real and how much money can you make a month trying the system.
Hey Josh, Honest Riches isn't a system. It explains how affiliate marketing works and how you can start earning money online. In other words it explains the system.
Wealthy Affiliate is another alternative that will give you everything that you need to succeed with affiliate marketing and making money online. Check out the video above if you haven't done so.
Isn't it some sort of a red flag when an internet marketing business that advertises on television only offers you their telephone number? No internet address? Obviously they are now aware of the results that immediately pop up in a search of "Jeff Paul's Shortcut to Internet Millions" - websites like this one with buzz words like "scam". Thanks for the heads up. I always believe that 'something requiring nothing reaps millions' is phony. I just wanted to read about what this "something" was and I appreciate yours and other sites' info. Ironically, you're doing the same thing under the banner of honesty, your blog page is littered with "make millions" ads too, and I suppose that's how it all works - my plan is better than his plan - run interference, etc. I haven't read anyone posting comments here that attest to any success your methods have to offer but to your credit, nothing is posted disclaiming your helpfulness either. Good luck to all of you out there trying to make $$ - may you remember to work to live and not simply live to work.
Thanks Lisa for your input. Unfortunately, I cant control some of the ads on this page because I'm using a 3rd party site (Hubpages).
I saw the infomercial and decided to do some research altough i already knew it was a total scam, i just wanted to see if there were people who would actually buy this product. I have read many of the posts here and I am surprised how Jeff Paul and his associates are still alive, If we think about it, there have been many innocent lives lost in America. The lives of people who had not done any harm to others, think about any of the school shootings that have ocurred, i know that this is not related to the subject but my point is that if there exist people capable of killing innocent individuals, I bet there has to exist alot of Angry ripped off people who would want, you know who dead. All i say is go for it. It might be alittle severe but doesn't this country punish people with the death penalty when they commit crimes that deserve it, i believe what these people do is one of those crimes.
i want to become a member.
I bought the Jeff Paul system. Told the mentor if I made some money with these sites I would more than likely invest it back into the buisness. But other than that don't ask for more money. The rep. didn't seem to have a problem with that.
I am new to this and the books did provide some very important information for me. But in all honesty I got some good information here too. I don't expect riches from this. I just want to learn, and yes put the time and effort into making it successful. Any information you can send me would be helpful. roge6558@bellsouth.net
I just saw the new Jeff Paul Shortcuts to Internet Millions infomercial. All I can say is that you can not polish a turd! Please people check with your local Better Business Bureau BEFORE you invest a penny into this SCAM. As to Joe-Joe's comment, smell the trash that you are talking! I hope that people are not that stupid to actually believe your post! How about some proof Joe-joe? Post your website address and make a believer out of me! I think that you, Joe-Joe are nothing but a Boiler Room Spin Doctor working for Jeff Paul and his Associates. I wonder which is worse, the FOOL or the FOOL that follows him. Hope that whomever reads this post does not become or follow a fool. Knowledge is power! Thank you for letting me post this comment and God Bless America!!!!
Hey Robert We Have'nt from you Dude oh and Happy New Year Dude I heard this guy's Comment and You are Telling Him Right Mark should Check the BBB Because Jeff Paul Can not Be Trusted and He Is The Biggest Con man Since Don Lapre i Learn from That Back in 1990 and Had a Lisent learn don't Trust Anyone or you'll end up Broke.So when are we Gonna Get this Guy off The Air Before He Robs these nice People and So we Can Get on With our Lifes oh and Jeff Paul if You are Reading this GET A LIFE YOU STUPID JERK HEADED PUNK HEAD FOOL have a nice day And Again Robert HAPPY NEW YEAR BUD!
File a Rip Off Report:
Jeff Paul has a past record going back several years on rip-off reports.
How many successful businessed have you seen that hasn't screwed someone? I don't know one. Did you see the cars on the infomercial. Haven't you heard the saying about the guy that has the cool car. He's compisating for something. Just my two cents.
Thanks for the information im a 16 year old that was going to use jeffs way but ur words sound encouraging and MOTIVATING
Great post. I like to see people putting some truth out there. I just recently joined weathy affilate and I am very happy with it thus far. I am glad I did not fall into the short cut to internet millons scam. You are very correct in saying there are no short cuts in internet marketing. If you have any tips for me as a new affilate let me know. broncomudder@hotmail.com
I've haerd of people "leasing" their SMC websites. I wonder if he is doing something similar.
Pretty cool little site you set up to promote your Wealthy Affiliate link! I've been thinking of subscribing to Wealthy Affiliate, so when I do I'll come back here so you can get the credit.
WOW..... I think its really sad when people have to try and take advantage of hard working people who are just trying to find a honest way to make money .....really SAD ....I tried JEFF PAUL PROGRAM AND IT WASNT FOR ME..but the concept itself works as far as making money with affilate programs ..Its just that jeff paul leaves out the MOST IMPORTANT PARTS IN MAKING MONEY ONLINE...GOOD PRODUCTS ,AND LOTS OF ADVERTISING...AND INVESTMENT OF TIME AND BUILDING YOUR NEW BUSINESS. The HARD work part is left out ....THE HOURS OF TRUE COMMITMENT PART IS LEFT OUT...HES MAKING his riches from SELLING PEOPLE THE PROGRAM..really all the info in the program is on the internet for FREE if you know where to look...TO MAKE MONEY ONLINE --YOU NEED A GOOD PROGRAM WITH A GOOD PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE NEED AND WANT. I been online doing busniess for about 1 year and and i can say i did alot of research, hours of it online studying different programs to make money and i can say that ive made money and ive built up a nice INCOME SO FAR ...i think the internet is one of the best ways to start making money in a short time FAST ...WITH SOME HARD WORK THAT IS...but sitting at home making MONEY IS WHAT MANY PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO DO AND THE INTERNET IS MAKING THAT POSSIBLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE . ITS POSSILBE but you have to do your research and study . I think this is a GREAT FORUM to start with ....PEOPLE EXPOSING PROGRAMS THAT ARE A WASTE OF TIME. SO to all keep up the good work in helping others weed out the GOOD programs from the BAD ONES. If anyone is interested in a GREAT PROGAM THAT IM MAKING A nice income from then go to this site http://website.ws/xtxter and WATCH THE FREE VIDEO AND SIGN UP FOR FREE..YOU CAN TRY IT FOR FREE FOR 7 DAYS FIRST and then cancel before the 7 days are up if its not for you...IT FREE TO TRY SO you have nothing to lose ...COMPANY IS RANKED 37 IN FORTUNE 500 MAGAZINE OF FASTEST GROWING COMPANIES ...GOOD LUCK TO ALL!
Hey Joshb You Did the Right Thing Dude You Did Your Homework and Pass With Flying Colors and All I Can Say is That It Is Illegal what He's Doing Jeff Paul Broke All The Rules and The Law and I am Glad Threr Are Good People Out There Like Yourself Are Doin Something About It.You my Friend Are a Man Amoung Man Who Spotted The Things Jeff Paul Did ANd Noticed It I WAnt All these People To Read What You Wrote ANd Learn What Jeff Paul Did you Are a Wonderful Person and a Real Go Getter The BBB should Pull His Imformercials oof The Air and Stop Him Before People Get Rip off By This Con Artist and his Cronneys Because I Don't Want to See Good People Lose a Dime Of What They Make and Lose it To a Con Artist Like Jeff Paul.
CDVF
All these programs are crap! The Fact Is you Need A product that nobody els has or a product that is cheeper than everybody elses to make money on an internet buisness. How do you get these products; invent them buy them? its not happening for the average joe that has no connections to the manufactutrer. You cant just make a site promote it and sit back and make millions! What are the people buying from your site, who is shipping your product or serviceis while you sleep at night? If you know little about internet buisness you will only LOOSE money and loose money monthly! who ever buys these system may lern allot about the internet buisness world but will fail to make any money. ITS ALL A SCAM!
I've checked the BBB site and did find a lot of complaints on his system. Anyone who still tries the system after all the warnings is looking to be scammed. Here is just one of the several complaints:
Summary - I was promised a refund of $119.85 but have not yet received it; company CONTINUES to withdraw $ from my credit card account.
Initial Complaint This company claims that if you utilize their product, that you will make millions working on the internet. Part of their "package" is that if you remain a customer, you agree to have $39.95 charged off your credit card on a monthly basis. The material contained within Paul's package was amateurish and borish, apparently composed and put together by a 10-year-old. It contained absolutely NOTHING of any value or substance, so I called the company and told them to not withdraw any further funds from said credit card. Well, they did so in March, April and May of this year. Per their request, I emailed their customer svc. dept. and asked them to please stop this, but nothing has happened. I had to call my bank and request a new credit card with a new credit card number so that the unauthorized payments would stop. Resolution Sought I simply want a refund of $119.85; nothing more, nothing less.
Hey, if you people are going to leave post's about this system or any other system that is obviously a scam to let the unsuspecting be aware, the least you can do is use the spell check before posting comments so that your comment(s) will be understood!
Interestingly enough 630to315. Have you ever checked out Jeff Paul's website? It is full of spelling mistakes and grammatical errors.
Cotswald You are on The Ball you Can't Just Go To Sleep and Watch The Money Grow The Have to Work Hard To Get Where Your at Or You Don't Make Money at All Keny Luger Will Tell You and Anyone Would Tell You It Takes Hard Work ANd Shipping and Handling and it Takes Lots and Lots Of Money Trust me. This Program Is A Scam and I Fell Sorry For THe Next Person That's Been Taken and To Anyone Who Is Working For Jeff Paul Y'all Is Crazy and To Anyone That Has Been Taken By Jeff Paul Tough Luck On Getting Y'all's Money Back Y'all's Will Never Will See It again Yall..Good Luck to Who Fall Under the Spell Of His Advertisments on TV you Will Be Taken.
I am in lay off right looking for job and no luck, I was planning to look for work from home, but I do not find a secure/sure website ...can anybody help me with information...I have 2 kids, lost my house and divorce all these happend to me in 2008....thank you all and godbless u all
Hey laura, sorry to hear of your misfortune. There's a nice forum you can join here: http://www.wahm.com/forums/ and be sure you check out their job page. Maybe you can find something here:
All the best.
I dont know much but there are two things I do know and that is do not knock it until you try it, and the second is that I can smell a hater a mile away and my hater meter started going off when I read the article at the top by Keny Luger. But, thats ok, cause we need haters. so tell me this Luger, if j.p. internet millions is a scam then how come you get a 60 day money back offer and if you do cancel say after 4 to 5 months, that would be 40 to 50 websites that you have now and you cancel your monthly membership, you get to keep those 40 to 50 websites. PLEASE INLIGHTEN ME LORD LUGER
Daniel, I know what happened. I just killed your hope. This was supposed to be it for you and I messed it up.
I'll tell you what, go ahead and order Jeff Paul's Shortcuts to Internet Millions and satisfy yourself. Then after you've returned it because it doesn't work (just like the Keny Luger guy told you because he's an experienced internet marketer who can see so many holes in the Jeff Paul product) you can come back here and tell me your experience.
Also let me know how many times they call you to upgrade to the VIP club for like $3000 so that you can fill in those holes - the stuff they left out to prevent you from succeeding just so that they can harass you to spend thousands of dollars to learn the real thing (if they're even gonna teach you that).
Now I don't wanna get all emotional and defensive and start ranting and cussing but why call me a hater when I'm trying to do a good service to good people and warn them about this dud of a product. Its only designed to make Jeff Paul rich and I don't have to spend my money to know its a bad buy.
I saw the way the Jeff Paul commercial was presented to know it was bullshit designed to catch the persons who don't know better. I also checked out the website and there are also countless consumer reports all over the internet and on this page for me to know that this is bogus. How about his shady sales tactics like paying one of his very experienced friends who already makes thousands of dollars on the internet to do a testimonial for the product? Do you think you can match him? He aint making his money using Jeff Pauls 3 Clicks to Cash system...I can tell you that.
You don't have to listen to me, Daniel. Just forget about this hater and go make a purchase but take my advice and use Paypal instead of your credit card if they allow that payment option.
My husband and I do media design and web management for 14 years now. Jeff Paul's program caught our attention and in some ways that even made sense. After a month of several of us going through things with a fine-toothed comb, we all reached the same conclusion. If you want to make extra money, you must work even harder and be persistent as nothing comes easy. Some parts of his training techniques do work but, does no pan out in the long run. It is always good to check things out esp., with the BBB !
HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY !
~Bella
I too would like to thank all, well, most of you for writing in and exposing this scam for what it is. My advice to those getting phone calls...
1. Read up on the laws regarding tape recording telephone conversations- Ohio law says only 1 party of the conversation needs to know it is being recorded to be legal. If you have to advise them of recording, advise them IMMEDIATELY, ON TAPE! Give them a reason you are recording conversations - you need to log calls to protect you & your family from prank calls, harrassing calls to you and your family, monitoring kids conversations....etc. Let them know it (childproof) will not be turned off. Emphasize 'prank calls, downplay 'harrassing'. Ask them if they understand. Record their affirmative answer. If they say no to being recorded, let them know you will be recording all conversations and they will have to accept it or hang up. If they stay on the line it is considered a nonverbal acceptance. Use Caller ID or *69(tape record the *69 recording immediately once the call has concluded). If their number shows up, read them the number and have them verify it. If not, let them know it didn't show up and ask them for their number. You will want both tape recordings and a paper log:
2. Have pen and paper ready at the phone so when they call you can log it with date, time, company, caller's name and telephone#/extension#. You will need to be persistent to get this info. By law if you ask for it they need to provide it. NOT giving it to you is breaking the law. Hanging up is breaking the law. You need them to say their company name first, on tape, before they hang up. Be cordial. Most companies will hang up once you take control of the conversation.
3. Get a recorder and tape record every call you receive from Jeff Paul. After getting company name, their name and #'s, advise the caller you returned your order and that has, in effect, cancelled your "business relationship" with the company. Advise them that you will never do business with them again; you do NOT want any future calls from them ever again; and, tell them to REMOVE your name from their list and NOT to call you ever again. Research the laws in your state for what information you need to have and what you need to clearly say to them before you can file a harrassment lawsuit.
4. Repeat step 2 & 3 every single time they call. Be polite but firm - you are being recorded too. NO PROFANITY! Logging hang ups are great. Just make sure you ask them what company they are from and you get it on tape, FIRST. Repeat their company name in the form of a question and they will say yes-confirming it again. Let them tell you why they are calling (or ask them) then proceed to 3. for your response.
You will find there are laws governing telephone/telemarketing sales. Research (FindLaw.com)the fines that will be imposed for companies that break telemarketing laws in your state. Once you have a good long list of dates and times they keep calling you (record on paper, record actual calls and record any voicemail messages they leave). Send a Certified Letter to the company with a copy of your notes letting them know they broke the law, that you have THEIR EMPLOYEES on tape as well as documented on paper and that you are going to file a lawsuit for the dollar amount you have determined (# of calls x the maximum fine allowed in your state for each call) for harrassment. Quote the law in your letter that they have broken. Most companies will pay you to not file suit. Yours is a sure win.
Research is needed for your state. There was a woman in Cleveland who did this. She was harrassed daily by multiple companies who: would not give their name, would not take her name off their list, hung up when she asked for this information. She sued a couple and threatened suit to others and made a nice chunk of money in the process. Her smallest check was $600 and the largest was $1200, if I remember correctly. She settled out of court on most. Her 1 loss was to some big appliance maker because she completed & mailed a registration/warranty card for a new product she bought and that constituted a 'business relationship'. She advised the telemarketer, upon the next call (yes, she got more), she was not interested....and to take her name off their list. They did not and proceeded to call her many more times. She filed suit again with her list and recordings and that time she won.
Good Luck!
I read all the comments and I am glad I researched this. I almost called but I kept thinking the people seemed so fake in the infomercial. That's what made me check online and I have found nothing good at all on Jeff Pauls scam.
I just got off the phone with a Jeff Paul "QUILIFIER" when he found out that I had no readly avaliable cash for them to use they droped me from their list and refused to help any further. So the scam is to use your money to make him money not you.
i'm glad i cancelled my order because i'm in debt and i want a real solution that can make me money quick to pay it off and jeff pauls is a scam, a fake no wonder i was a bit turned off by his commercial.
huge scam. open up your eyes people.
Why is everything on the internet so wishy washy? I wish we could find legit sites that would be of value and success! We are all trying to make money to make ends meet. It's never going to be easy.
I am so happy that I fell upon this site, regretfully I have purchased the shortcut to internet millions. I had a conversation with a so called "coach" last night where he inquired and required all my credit card debt, APR'S and car debts and was offering to take me by my hand to learn how to work this system to become one of their so called statistic money making people, he also said they're looking for a group of new people for their new infomercial that will be airing in about a year which gives us enough time to make that money, he did say that I would have to qualifiy to be chosen for it but not explaining what the qualifications would be, this is the point that he asked for all of the above mentioned information he also inquired about how much money I had set aside for emergencies this is when the red flag went up in my mind and I decided to research it today. I don't feel so foolish for buying the system I knew that the infomercial is far fetched and a ploy to get people to buy it but I was hoping even if I could make a small amount of money per month it would be worth paying $39.95 + S&H I wasn't expecting to make millions that's all B.S. I'm supposed to have a conference call with the coach, my husband and his marketing guy who determines if we will qualify for that infomerical or qualify to be taken by the hand I guess??? I now feel that I will be calling to return this product ASAP.
I have just been laid off and want to make money from home while raising my 2 very young children, I don't know much about internet marketing but from what it sounds like according to all the comments above the average person can do it with some perseverence and dedication, I will start researching further if anyone can advise the best first direction to go it would be greatly appreciated! God Bless and good luck to all on their ventures!
So glad I found this site. Thank you for taking the time to give us a place to hear from both sides of the ...problem... that is Jeff Paul. We've got people who've tried it and also the people who apparently think that we're too dense to recognize them for the Jeff Paul "apostles" that they are.
While I appreciate the latitude and immense freedom of speech the internet allows us there is a nasty theme that I see persisting here: annoying people who RANDOMLY USE ALL CAPS or Capitolize The First Letter Of Every Freaking Supposedly Important Word In Their Post. Or just plain bad English.
What the hell?? What does that say about you? Honestly? Did you never learn how to properly communicate? 'Net speak' isn't cool. It's ignorant. And it's no wonder no one can spell anymore.
I'll quit my rant and end by saying that I'm glad that this information about the scam is available. Thanks, Kenny!
hi guys, bought the Jeff Paul system 56 weeks ago and haven't made a cent, followed every step with the so called "coach" and all i can say about this product is that it's all a scam, don't fall for it and if you do, be willing to lose 39.99 plus s&h because you will not get your money back, they'll send you on a wild goose chase until your guarantee period is over. i make over $80,000 in my regular job but thought i can make more money to send my sister to a good school, but these guys are the biggest scams of the century.
DON"T BE FOOLED BY JP's INFORMECIAL.
i have started a class lawsuit against JP and have my first court date on april 29th, 2009. will advise of the results
You sued Jeff Paul!? Please let us know how that goes.
yeah, me along with 11 other people, he is being sued for false advertisement and 2 other charges.
Moon, I am so excited to hear how your court case turns out. If you go up towards the middle of all the comments, I made a few comments about my experience...7 months ago. I am still receiving daily pone calls from J.P.'s people. I enjoyed 27ANGELS comment above. The problem is that the phone calls I receive is a recording to remind me of an upcoming web seminar or some other stupid event I'm supposed to attend. It's never a real person anymore. How do you stop that?!
Hey! Remember that clown William Mccorkle with his bullshit infomercial such as luxury cars and a yacht and a jet with his name on it that was all rented crap not his. What a looser buy his program and be rich like me and the other jerkoffs. That clown and his ex wife are still in jail hopefully these other clowns get there day too............
William McCorkles ex wife has a web site Free Chantal is the site
I am surprised to hear everyone's thoughts on he said, she said ideas. Must be a scam. Oh no, the wizard must be a scammer. I am just puzzled of how many of you are actually lawyers or sidewalk lawyers. These different viewpoints I am reading here about this guy name John Paul is really surprising. Do any of you really know what constitutes a scam, pyramid, income change, flipper, con's game and etc.? Within a through review of these debates among most everyone here, I would think many do not have a clue on case law.
Who's John Paul? Was it that pope guy?
Update: Just got a charge on my credit card for $39.95 from Internet Millions. If you notice my first comment from 7 months ago when I first encountered Jeff Paul and Internet Millions, I had gone to great lengths and had extensive phone calls with my credit card company to keep them from making any charges to my account. I "thought" I had it taken care of. These idiots just now...7 months later...decide to try to start charging to my credit card! I ended up having to cancel my credit card this morning and there is a dispute on the charge. UNBELIEVABLE!! By the way, if you follow along with my previous comments, you'll also be interested to know that I still receive daily "recorded" phone calls from these scammers! Anybody that is even entertaining the idea of trying this SCAM out, please run in the other direction as fast as you possibly can...learn from my mistakes...please! Don't throw away your hard earned money on these low-life's.
By the way, my comment from 4 weeks ago has a typo...I meant to put "Lady Lo" instead of "27Angels". I enjoyed 27Angels comments, too, but my question was pointed towards Lady Lo. Thanks!
I bought the Mr. F*$K NUTS, oh excuse me I mean Jeff pauls scam for making millions, I like most internet idiots no pun intended, thought why not, I got onto the sites that show negotive blogs against Jeff "Jeffy" Paul and much to my suprise the compaints were beyond ones counting, so I looked at the B.B.B. Report on Jeffy and found out he is connected to a company called "MUSTANG MARKETING" In sunny Van Nuys, California, there B.B.B. Rating was an absolute -F- theres a real suprise, so you need to change your bank account information, so Jeffy cant jab your account again, and someone should know how to file a class action suit against Jeffy, as well "MUSTANG MARKETING" and shut Jeffy and his two hookers with store bought boobs down, and maybe we will get some money back, I'm comming for you Jeffy, Oh, Jeffy, Robert.
I forgot to mention, that on your paper work from Jeff "jeffy" Paul that there is a section that is called "R.M.A.#, this means for those of you who dont know {RETURN MERCHANDISE AUTHORISATION] number, you will call them for an "R.M.A.#, and much to your suprise, no one will call you back, but be asured, that if you dont change your account information, "jeffy", no I mean Mr. F*$K NUTS, I mean Jeff Paul, will charge your account again, and again, if you think I am kidding, ignore my warning to you and wait and see, he is a low life punk, scum bag, and his own mother was his first customer, have know remores for "jeffy" or his band of hookers, this is you hard earned money, as well mine, would you purposly step in dog poop, of course not, then view "jeffy", Mr. F*$K NUTS, no I mean Jeff Paul the same way, if you think my warning is to graffic, how you feel when your own bank account is empty because of this scum bag, lets think about that for a minute, Robert.
You must forgive a few miss spelled words that I wrote about Mr. F*$K NUTS, Oh, I mean jeffy, let me try to get this right, Jeff Paul, I think you get the full message, do your self a favor read all negotive blogs about Mr. F*$K NUTS, and then just give him your money, I wish I could charge all of you one dollar for the good advise I'm giving you, because I to would be rich except one thing, I would not be lying to you like "jeffy" does, I would be making an honest dollar, Robert.
The reason I don't even trust this site's ranting is due to the fact that Kenny Luger didn't even bother to put a time-tested effort into the program first before ranting. Second, he says, "Don't listen to Jeff Paul, but trust me and buy this other program instead". That sounds exactly like a jealous competitor talking. If you really want to send a clear message to warn people, then don't make it look like you have a personal agenda in mind and like you could care less to know exactly why the program is a scam and not just make an assumption.
If anyone wants to know why I think the program is a scam, then go read through some of the paragraphs on the website for S.T.I.M. Whoever wrote up the desciption of the program, of who John Paul is, and why the program isn't a scam OBVIOUSLY is new to English. If this guy Jeff Paul really is a rich guy, he wouldn't have such a poorly written website. It looks like a high-school dropout wrote the descriptions. There's even a funny description of the program at the bottom of the webpage in the link for Jeff Paul that says "Jeff Paul's "Short Cuts to Internet Millions" is probably basic information designed to get you excited and then hopefully want you to spend more money on more costly related products or coaching." I CANNOT BELIEVE some idiot wrote that on the official webpage for the product. That's hilarious!!!
Victor, thank you for your comments. I explained in the article why I couldn't try the product. Did you just skim over all that just to put me down?
You see to internet marketers like myself its obvious but to the people Jeff Paul is targeting I will assure you they won't know what to make of it because they don't have the exposure. Why would I drink the poisoned Kool Aid just to know or prove that there's really poison in it?
As for an agenda, well I really do want to open people's eye to what is going on here because like I said its not obvious to them but it is to me. And because I know who my audience is and what they really want, I don't think there is anything wrong at all with pointing them in the right direction.
JEFF PAUL INTERNET MILLIONS IS A SCAM .. DON'T BUY IT .. I DID AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR A CALL BACK REGARDING INSTALLING MY 10 FREE WEBSITES.. I BEEN OUT OF WORK SINCE OCTOBER OF 08 AND LIKE AN IDIOT I ORDERED IT. THEY TOOK ME FOR $64.45 AND THEN STARTING CHARGING MY BANK CARD $39.95 AND I HAD TO CLOSE ACCOUNT WITHOUT APPROVAL AND FIGHTING TO GET MY $39.95 BACK. WHATEVER YOU DO.. DON'T BUY IT ..THIS IS A MAJOR SCAM.. AND HE IS GETTING RICH ALRIGHT AND IT'S BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT ARE OUT OF WORK AND THINK.. WELL MAYBE THIS IS A WAY TO MAKE MONEY AND PAY MY BILLS. NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!! BELIEVE ME. I TELL EVERYONE I MEET AND ALSO POSTED IN MY APT BLDG. NOT TO BUY IT BECAUSE IT IS A SCAM......MAJOR RIP OFF....
In most of these cases like JP the initial small amount is the "Come On", to fill in the gaps you will be sold coaching or a higher end product. This is common, it's called upsell or continuity.
The second case is usually these free websites will be loaded with products his company sells and you get a commision from the sales. He plays the numbers game, spread enough of these sites out there, people will pay for google ads or other ad forms and do the selling. He makes a bundle.
The third is outright fraud, if you can't get your guarantee back or they keep charging your card after you requested them to stop well, this sheds a dark cloud over the whole operation. With all this negative press the infomercials keep running, so I guess he still gets customers.
To tstrode...common sense check...after you got refunded why did you not immediately cancel your card and have them reissue with a different number? That way they can't keep charging you. It's not a big hassle to do; just make a call to your CC company and tell them you're having a problem with fraud. I did this when my CC number got stolen and was used by some guy to pad his sales of (get this) dental related products (and he also paid a cell phone bill with it). The tipoff was when I got a box of tongue scrapers in the mail that I never ordered! LOL. Instantly canceled the card over the phone and got my $ back from the company he was affiliated with and from Sprint within a week start to finish.
My first comment on any site anywhere is to say Thank You Keny!
Not only was the site informative, but I have to tell you that I haven't laughed out loud for an hour like this for ages. Between confirming that Jeff Paul's program is junk, and terrible spelling from some mental wonders, (no wonder they bought into it), I have enjoyed every comment. I would have never bought into such an obvious scam, but it did spark an interest in internet marketing. I will certainly check out your recommendation as well as others, and will go through your link so you get credit.
Once again, thanks for the laughs and honesty. And thanks for this site.
Andy
You're very much welcomed Andy :)
ReasonMachine comments had me in tears I was crying so hard. Thank everyone for all of their comments. For those of you who keep getting charged over and over again, I recommend that you file a protest with your credit card company and then cancel the credit card. It is impossible for them to charge a closed account.
Keny Luger, thank you for this site. Please email me about your internet marketing training.
Thank you.
All of these infomercials promise millions and get maybe 2 or 3 succesful people and fail to mention the thousands of people who have failed i also like how he says i make up to 7k a week not 7k every week maybe 7k was a one time thing and i hate how all they do is get a bunch of peppy girls with big boobs to smile the whole time and stand next to shiny cars *scoffs at lambo in background* the real way to make internet millions is through hard persistant work and discipline
Ok I was just sitting here watching tv when the infomercial came on about john pauls success. The first thing that came to my mind was wow that would be the greatest thing ever to make that much cash in that short amount of time. So you can imagine what i did right after i saw the infomercial??? Thats right i went online and the only thing that i could seem to find was scam this scam that, this guy lies but this one actually works. What i dont get is ok yeah john paul claims to make so much money due to his "shortcuts" and these other marketing companys say he is a scam but we work. whats to say that these companys are just trying to steal the business from another company. I personally have an experience with this. I think that it was about 6 years ago my parents were up late and they were watchin the old boob tube and "MATHEW LESKO" came on saying how his books could make u so much money from the government not just any money but FREE money. so my parents talked and talked for a while about it well about 1 week later there was a huge box and when my parents opend it it was a box of cassette tapes and some LESKO books. after my parents went through the trouble of spending close to $2,000.00 on this crap they soon found out that there were the smallest road blocks that would just cause them to actually have to spend or lose money. MATHEW LESKO claims to be able to get you money to remodel your house but the roadblock to that was that u have to make so much money a yeaer to qualify for this. HELLO if i had the money to remodel my house i think that i would have just spent it on that instead of trying to get some FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY. Yeah i know that this is not the topic of internet marketing but it is kind of the same concept here. I am 21 years old and a recent college graduate with 2 degrees right there i had to spend money, work hard, have motivation, and yet i still have to work my a$$ off just to make ends meet. i cant have the mindset of "yeah i went to college i worked hard i graduated now all i have to do is wait for the money to roll in" putting that into john pauls "3 clicks" CLICK 1. went to college. CLICK 2. i workd hard. CLICK 3. i graduated. NOW WHERES MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!! .......................... thats right its not gonna just leap into my hands. Im gonna close this with i agree with what BRIAN said " the real way to make internet millions is through hard persistant work and discipline"
Thank you.
John (not john paul)
correction on my last input i ment to say jeff paul instead of john i apoligise for that misunderstanding
John, thank you for your contribution to this discussion.
For anyone who isn't clear on the reason for this hub. It is not to 'steal' business from Jeff Paul. Rather, it is to warn people that Jeff Paul's stuff doesn't work and to point people in the right direction. Because I know people who have just discovered that opportunity lies online will want to know more after being disappointed and from a legitimate source.
If there is any doubt that the direction I'm pointing you in might also not work, then you could always do the same research you did for Jeff Paul's program.
i thought these sophisticated pyramid schemes were over, now they are working their way onto NATGEO channel at 5am. damnit they are all over the internet and tv now. these people are like cockroaches. and believe me, the only person making money are the people selling you the package so you can start your "legit" business of selling whatever bullshit crackerjack product they offer, and oh yeah, btw you can also make money by selling the same b.s. $400+ packages to help get people started by calling them on the phone and harassing them, JUST LIKE WHAT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU DID TO YOU, sophisticated pyramid schemes only offer the "package" to make it a legal business. the only person making money usually is the person at the top, theres a reason they have been outlawed and people are finding loopholes to still use them. anyone who buys any kind of get-rich-quick program is a PAWN. u wanna make money? the world works like this... first you have to have a product second find a medium. the only REAL money making sites are sites like eBay and amazon. FOOLS.
Criticize Keny if you want, but understand that he is making money off you for doing so. What better way to make money off internet marketing than to criticize Internet Marketing, and positioning yourself so you come up in a good position on Google doing such.
heres the thing...its not affiliate marketing its dropshipping... now i have no special interest in this other than seeing the commercial at 3:00am and im looking for a reason not to buy this guys program...from alot of the posts im guessing most of you guys didnt take the time to actually read the program... especially the guy who wrote the article..
I would like to know if their are people like me who have tried the Jef Paul program and feel that they have been ripped off. I would like to know if their are any lawyers who would file a class action law suit to help the people who have been ripped off by the J.P. Shortcut to Millons program?
i tried adsense by google, affiliate sponsored by some guy in india. after spending nearly 100.00$ USD on "stuff" promised in the "package" i got my "site" up and running. one month later my dynadot tracker count was still zero. get real folks, if you reallly want to waste your money just send it to me and i,ll send you free information about nothing.
dear daniel, so let me get this straight. you say it,s better to be an idiot and waste your money getting other people rich, then to suffer the slings and arrows of indifferance as a result of warning others of a bad deal? oh, by the way, are you jeff paul,s "other son".
How do you know? Are you eavesdroping? I think your right. He probbily just wants the money. There is a bunch of other ways to get money. And I will not buy it. Like selling dimonds and selling them. That is why I am going to sware not to join it.
Yea i agree with you Keny. My big thing Is if Jeff was able to make millions using this shortcut system Why does he have to sell it at these prices to make many. No one is that thoughtful to reveal a "true million making" system even if it did exist in the idea persona he gives to viewers. If it were such a success He wouldnt have had to start a market in it. Its just a Catchy and Huge desire for every american. And apparently he gives you 10 free websites which I couldnt imagine being very useful when he's also giving the same 10 websites to thousands of other buyers. think about it everyone using the same website.
Thats a great way to make millions..I didnt buy this s*** for one sec.mAking money on the internet is def possible but time and dedication are in order for this not a 40$ product sold by Jeff Paul. 3 clicks to millions is far from the truth. I've heard stories where people have went into credit card debt because of this program. I think you pay the 40$ and then you receive a little package and then one of jeffs assistants starts calling and telling you that in order to take the next step, it will be $1500 and then The person realizes its bull shiste and then trys to reach a consultant who doesn't return your phone calls wont refund your money. And now they have all your information so you just keep paying payments out your account and its just a big mess. & def very misleading
Im not intelligent in the market area, but i see that you are and I appreciate this forum
Thank you Lady. I appreciate your contribution.
SO TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A BS PROGRAM,I'M STILL VERY CLOSE TO PURCHASING THIS PRODUCT AND TRYING IT BECAUSE MAYBE ALL YOU SHIT TALKERS ARE MAKING MONEY AND JUST DONT WANNA SHARE WITH EVERYONE ELSE,IFTHERES ANYONE OUT THERE MAKING MONEY OFF THIS PROGRAM THEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
Tina,
Rule #1 for making money on the internet:
Do NOT TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!
more so, Yes, you are correct, we all are making millions and just posting on this blog to defer you from joining in on our money tree. WOW
I would say, go ahead, sign up, and then come back here in a few months and post your success stories how your millions.
I just received the Jeff Paul's system today as i looked over the invoice I noticed they tacked on a additional 100$ on by bill which brought it to a total of $164.40 after the 15$ s&h. The nice thing about that is they said nothing about that charge. "WOW so many honest people ou there". I wish I had done some research before purchasing this product, it was a inpulse buy. Good thing I havent called the 1-800# to set up the web sites yet. Sounds like a crock of chit. Thanks for the info. Time to cancel, cut my loses and change my credit card number what a headache. Oh by the way for anyone out there thinking about buying the product think twice do more research. A little about what you get in the mail, most the info the send you can be found right on there site. Also there is no step by step directions to it, they send you five CD-ROM's that have virtualy no info on them the longest one is about 64 pages. And the quick start dvd is junk it's just Jeff talking about his rags to riches story gay. From start to finsh all they tell you is call this number over and over again and whats f'ed up is that with all the fliers and chit they give you theres about five different 1-800#'s through the whole thing that realy through me off.
Thanks again for the info Keney just glad i didn't get suckered in any further.
I'll keep you posted tomarrow when i give them a call to set up the 10 web sites, ya right we'll see. I,m gonna try to at lease get my $100's back, that they over charged we'll see how that go's to. I feel like such a sucker oh well lesson learned hopefully.
tty 2marro,
Rich
I'll make sure to include the URL's so people can check out the sites and judge for themselves. On all the reports i,ve read, no has gave a site to check out to see what Jeff has to offer. Maybe you don't even get sites. We'll see tomarrow when i get out of school.
Hey Rich, thanks for letting us know your experience. Please keep us up to date. It would be nice to see one of the sites.
If you ordered Jeff Paul's Internet Millions you need to do the following:
- Change your phone#. Verizon changed my wireless for $15
- Have your credit card company change your account #.
Capital One just changed mine in 10 minutes. Take
the loss on the $39.95 start-up package and change your #
to avoid the recurring charges that will come.
Fortunately, I was able to do all this within 2 days of ordering the start-up kit - I haven't even received it yet.
After 2 days of researching on the net (I know, that is what I should have done to begin with) I was able to determine this was the best course of action to diffuse the situation. I hope I'm right.
Is this for real?
FUCKEN SCAM!
Another proof that American idiots have the brain size of a penis & jeff paul good example 'Brainwash you make millions,
Am Jeff paul, send me your money so i can laugh @ you 'american are such idiots - believe anything'
I ordered Jeff's Shortcuts some time ago and I'm making as much as $60,000 a week.. PSYCH! I keep waking up to this BS informercial when I fall asleep with the TV still on. I just wanted to look it up to see what the hell this guy is selling out of curiosity. I think it is the most ridiculous stupidity I've ever heard of. Sounds like the cash flow notes infomercial that used to come on instead. These infomercials come up with these really corny lingos to get ignorant people excited. Notes would never be referred to as cash flow notes. They add cash flow to give it a cliche sound becasue people like to hear the words "cash" and "cash flow". I don't understand how people can really think these things are legit. "these are not paid actors"... LOL. I think if you believe that, you deserve to get cleaned out. I'm sure they are not paid actors but they have some stake in the whole bit so it's technically not a lie.
Why don't you more lies. idiot
Why more lies. idiot
Another proof that American idiots have the brain size of a penis & jeff paul & Making millions good example 'Brainwash you make millions.
YOUR FULL OF SHiT MAKING MILLIONS! COMMERICAL ARE JUST ACTORS
FEED US MORE BULLSHIT WHY DON'T YOU -- MAKING MILLIONS
I wonder how he payed for that lamborghini in the background obviously a few to many people tryed investing their time and money into his "short cuts" that obviously dont work
If you really want to get a copy of the system and never received it in the mail? Then go to The Pirate Bay and download it for FREE, then you won't be out of $ 39.00. But Jeff Paul is full of BS, his program is to scam people and make millions for himself doing it. How can this JERK sleep at night. When I get finish my building my website, it will show everyone step by step how to make millions on the internet, AT NO CHARGE.
i think it will work it cant go wrong
Keny Lurger, I've seen the Famous Jeff Paul's infomercial on more than 1 occasion. Needing money badly enough I wished I could try to convince myself that it wasn't all a scam but I can't. Still in need of a way to make a living, I've been reading this long website and seeing a bunch of sites, id like to try yours first, get back to me if you can, and I dont know how this site works here exactly but im hoping ill get an email if you respond or something.
hola como estan todos
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Danny Palik says:
2 years ago
Thanks for the information you wrote. I still don't know how the whole concept works. Sounds like Jeff Paul is looking for people to pull out their credit cards to fill his pockets then leaves the people to fend for themselves. Basically, I don't understand how the product gets to the buyer. Am I making a few cents on the dollar simply by advertising through a link to my friends who send my website ad to their friends and so on? And I sit back and hope my friends buy the product because they are my friends and then their friends do the same because they are their friends? Or do I buy bulk then have to mail the product or hand deliver it to my friends?
Danny