John Clarke aka Fred Dagg
70John Clarke is NOT Australian
This was a hub that had to be written! I don't even know how to make money from it - I have to write it for the sake of my National Pride!
I have published a fair number hubs about Australia and I list my address as Australia but I usually identify and have the accent of a New Zealander. I've lived in both countries off and on and I can tell you that we Australians and New Zealanders love to poke fun at each other, but we share far more similarities than differences.
One of the annoying things that Australian's do is assume that some New Zealanders are actually Australian - which agvulpes admitted to on a comment on my Melbourne Cup hub. So thanks agvulpes - because you got me to check out some of John's/Fred's work on youtube. So after wasting quite a bit of time on youtube is the evolution of a great New Zealander who makes a living taking the piss out of Australian politicians - and the odd American!
John Clarke is a New Zealander who has been a satirist and comedian since the early 1970's. I still have an LP of some of his earliest work somewhere in a box. He was a phenomenon when I was growing up in New Zealand in the 1970's and the only home-grown comedian on TV that I remember who actually was political - unheard of at the time.
What amazes me now though is that 30 years on he is still doing it! The accent has changed, the politicians names have changed, but actually not lot else has - the man is still a genius! Enjoy - I have listed the clips in roughly chronological order but he's right up to date - even on the current economic crises!
Fred Dagg Down the Farm and in Town
Fred Dagg in Wellington - mid-1970's
Fred Dagg was the "typical" New Zealand farmer: with the uniform of gum boots and black singlets. At the time NZ farmers still enjoyed a wonderful array of subsidies from the "townies"
The first part fo the clip was clearly filmed on the streets of Wellington in the mid-1970's. This is not a setup - this was definitely filmed on the real streets on the cheap. The cars really did look like that! The joke that most will miss is of course no one drove a 4WD in town - somethings have really changed!
Fred Dagg in Politics 1975
New Zealand's Politics in the 1970's
New Zealand was a deeply conservative country in the 1970's. We were all pretty shocked because Britain had joined the EU and stopped buying anything we made and shipped there. That on top of the world oil shock - the 1971 one- meant that New Zealand at the bottom of the world with none of its own oil was in trouble.
Those that had cars (which wasn't everyone) had to nominate one day as a "carless day" - when they wouldn't drive it. There was outrage because and very,very few families had TWO cars so they wouldn't be inconvenienced!
There were two parties in NZ Politics at the time: National the incumbant run by Robert (Piggy) Muldoon and Labour - Labour didn't count they were never in power.
Fred - decided to start his own party ...
We Don't Know How Lucky We Are
We Don't Know How Lucky We Are
One of Fred's songs which has been re-released by John. If anyone can find me the late 1970's early 1980's version I'd include it but youtube has failed me! This is the updated version possibly from the 1990's? He still can't sing though!
A quick cultural guide for the Austalians:
Maui Maori God of the sea.
"world's largest fish" - according to Maori legend Maui is supposed to have fished up the South Island of NZ
pissed - drunk
Helen Clark is the current Prime Minister - and the "wife in the kitchen" clip. She must be a fan because she is NEVER photograhed in the kitchen!
The truth is of course that Kiwi's love whinging and tend to denigrate their own country. John Clarke himself had to leave to further his career: he would always have been Fred Dagg in New Zealand. The song was humourous but was also very,very true of New Zealand at the time. Perhaps we've woken up a bit since then: and if Global Warming comes true we will have a fantastic country - and I might just go home!
John Clarke on Real Estate Agents
Fred Moves to Australia and Goes Up Market
Fred leaves his gumboots behind and moves to Australia in the late 1970's. Unfortunately he has never returned home. Interestingly in this clip - he still has the New Zealand accent!
At the time this was recorded there was a real estate boom on. Interestingly nothing much has changed in the last 25 years!
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On the Middle East Situation
Clarke and Dawe on Iraq
Clarke has a regular weekly spot on the 7:30 report which is a straight current affairs program on the Australian government owned station ABC. Brian Dawe is his straight man
The political background: John Howard is the ex-Prime Minister who lost an un-looseable Australian Federal election in 2007 partly because of his strong support for absolutely anything that George Bush did.
New Zealand on the other hand has pursued a non-alignment policy and has not had troops in Iraq, they do have peace keepers in Afghanistan and Timor
John Clarke as George Bush on the Trillion Dollar Bail Out
Clarke and Dawe Takes on the US Economy
John's view on the trillion dollar bail out of Wall Street. The odd thing of course is that I haven't seen a serious journalist question the U-turn from free market laissez-faire economics to socialism - except these guys!
The only slightly sad thing is that probably in these politically correct days he won't be allowed to take off either Sarah Pallin or Barack Obama - but maybe he will I hope so. Most comedians stick to one or two public figures they slightly resemble - John Clarke only focuses on their vocal mannerisms and does it very,very well.
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Hi Jenny - I haven't found that one and I have been through everyone of his on You Tube! I do remember that one too - incredible its probably 25 years since I heard it!
Hi Lissie you just had to didn't you? You couldn't even let us think that he was ours, how could you?
Fred Dagg, now there is a character, you would swear he was straight out of the Ozzie outback? But our guys are much more sofistikated than that, they would not wear their gum boots in town they would leave them in the ute! and wear the thongs! (slip slops)
Your John Clarke must be quite a sportsman, according to his website he won 53 Olympic medals, possibly more , now could this be right?
http://www.mrjohnclarke.com/news.php
Thanks for the acknowledgement much appreciated!
(fancy an Ozzie thanking a Kiwi for anything. ouch. I wont tell any of my friends.)
LOL agvulpes! Of course he won all those medals - its on the internet - so it must be true! The Games was another masterpiece of John's of course!
I don't understand what is Australian about gumboots though - gumboots are for water - and the Australian outback doesn't have any - hence the Ozzie safety book aka jandles (thongs are something that no Ozzie male should wear - found on the beaches of Rio normally!) - isn't funny how we have some different words for the same thing!
Its OK - we can be nice to each other here cause hardly any other NZer or Ozzies come they are all Yanks and Poms in my stats!
Sophisticated - NZ in the 1970's? That clip of Wellington in the 1970's was scary cause I was there! I got a job in Sydney in 1980 and on my first day I went into town for lunch and asked for a coffee - they said capuccino. flat white, lattee etc -I had never heard of these - coffee was white or black at home LOL
You know its interesting - there is current debate about copyright and how the internet is changing the perception of fair use and copyright. But there is another side: according to The Age - link below - much of Fred's early work is lost. His early TV work was ad-libbed on TV and videos only became available in the mid-1970's - and they were hugely expensive in NZ. There were cassettes and LP's but not everything was recorded! Contrast that to today where everything is recorded!
Thats a shame about the early work not being around.
What can you tell me about Bryan Dawe, he tends to get pushed into the background, I suppose he's a Kiwi as well?
I didn't know who this person was. Now, I have learned about him (and the friendly battle between Australia and New Zealand) and will have to learn more. Thanks for sharing!
Gee well bugger me - as Fred would say - Bryan's a bloody Ozzie and it seems that Clarke and he are mates: they worked on The Games together too. So its true Australians and NZers can be friends -there's hope for us agvulpes! http://www.bryandawe.com.au/html/about.htm
Thanks for visiting Chritoph - I don't think he's well known outside Australiasia - but he should be!
I can remember Fred in NEw Zealand and do watch on ABe sometimes. That is if we are not watching Inspector Rex on SBS " six billion stories and counting"
like it, him and you
There is some very good stuff on SBS and then there is some really weird stuff like a subtitled German show featuring a police dog - not policeman - his dog! Thanks for visiting MrM
Christoph, to be quite honest I can't even tell you why we are supposed to hate each other so much, I suppose its a bit like sibling rivallry we fight like cats and dogs between ourselves but brother watch out if any one else touches either one of us. Here come the ANZACS!
Lizzie I'd forgotten about Sir Murray Rivers, I used to listen to him on the radio when I was travelling, very dry wit and satirical to the extreme. Not quite sure who he was modelling?
Oh is exactly like sibling rivallry: that's how I explain it to foreigners! Of course NZ is a little bit more strident on account of being the smaller (but better!) Sir Murray Rivers is a new one on me: who would have thought Australia had a home grown talent: you should do the hub on him! Its fun digging up the forgotten stuff and reposting it to a new audience! I have found some great US comics via hubpages so maybe its time to return the favour: it would have to be a native-born Aussie who did Dame Edna of course!
Sir Murray Rivers was the up-himself , been in parliament forever politician (bit like your Jo)who was always being interviewed by a very sarcastic interviewer, and always came up with the right (wrong) answer.
How about Paul Hogan does Dame Edna. That would be something to see, Paul in his boots and Glady's? Sorry can't forget the Tiara?
Actually I'm more of a Graham Kennedy fan!
This man is a god to me. Such timing, so droll, so bloody hilarious. I have followed him but not as well as you have lissie. I will come back and spend an hour.
- Scroll down to dig up Fred Dagg - Entertainment - theage.com.au
Comedian John Clarke resurrects an old alter ego. By Jacqui Taffel. - The Age Online - MR JOHN CLARKE
John's professional site - The New Zealanders - Fred Dagg - Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand
Te Ara – The Encyclopedia of New Zealand is a comprehensive guide to the country’s peoples, natural environment, history, culture, economy, institutions and society. - 7.30 Report
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Inspirepub says:
13 months ago
I love Fred Dagg - if you ever find a video of his guest appearance as a lecturer in philosophy, I would love to hear that again.