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Many of us are trying MMS or alternative therapies for the first time in an effort to rid ourselves of this dibilitating disease we call herpes. This HUB was made to create a positive and safe environment in which we can share and unite. Together we WILL get cured!
All are welcomed to join and discuss cures. We have only one rule; NO NEGATIVITY. Cures aren't found in personal attackes or not allowing others to be heard.
I have attempted to document my experience with MMS on a blog along with my dosage information, daily diary, and some of the information I researched that helped influence my decision to try it. I will include more blogs as they are created. Please also feel free to check out one of the videos or links in this HUB. You can also email me at: tiaj28@hotmail.com
Blogs & Chatroom
- My MMS Log
Please feel free to visit my blog, where I am documenting my personal experience using MMS. - Cured in 09
TECHIE'S Blog - pH Therapy & MMS - Virus Free Living '09
AZ1's Blog - My MMS Journy
Lantz932's Blog - VirusCure.org Chat
Fancy a chat? Come meet and chat with individuals who are being cured or trying new therapies here.
News & Updates
- Our Immune System and Herpes
Herpes does not hide! Scientists find that immune cells appear to monitor the virus and keep it in check. (October 2008)
Information About MMS and How It Works
- About Jim Humble
Jim Humble is the founder of MMS (Miracle Mineral Suppliment). Please follow this link to learn more about him and the work he is doing to change people's lives. - MMS - Miracle Mineral Solution
Where to find MMS and Citric Acid Crystals. The number one online source for MMS, Jim Humble's Miracle Mineral Solution. - The Chemistry of MMS and How It Works
Everything you need to know about MMS. - Molecula Silver & MMS
Follow this link for more information about Molecula Silver. Both MMS and Molecula Silver are available on this site. - Additional Information about MMS
Here is an alternative site that discusses some uses for MMS.
How to Use MMS
Using Citric Acid crystals to activate MMS will make the most optimal solution, however, you may also use lemon or lime juice. Be sure to drop your activator (Citric Acid or lemon/lime juice) first. For every 1 drop MMS there should be 5 drops of activator (8 drops MMS should have 40 drops activator). Once mixed, swirl the solution gently and allow it to sit for about 3 minutes, but not longer than 5. Stabilize your solution with about a cup of water or juice, and drink within 1 hour (the sooner the better). If you choose to stabilize your solution with juice, be sure to use 100% juice that does not include Citric Acid, Absorbic Acid, Sodium Citrate, or Vitamin C (avoid these ingredients 2-3 hours before or after taking MMS). 100% Apple, carrot, pomegranite, grape, or prune juice works great.
Topical Application of MMS
Use a 2 ounce spray bottle that makes a fine mist. Take an empty 2 ounce spray bottle, add 100 drops of 10% citric acid solution (you could use lemon juice filtered through a coffee filter) and 20 drops MMS. Wait the customary 3 minutes and then fill the bottle with water (could be distilled water, but then any clean water would do). This bottle of MMS will stay activated for 3 days because of the extra strong mixture. Note: you may use a larger spray bottle, but your measurements should be exact, so be sure to use 2 ounces of water as per the measurements. You may spray your wound or infected area up to once per hour. If burning or stinging occurs on an open sore, you may pour out half your mixture and dilute it with more water.
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AZ1 - Well hello stranger! I'm also quite glad more people are stopping by. I've been putting the word out as much as I can just to ensure people know there's a safe place to discuss these things without the usual bollocks. I certainly wish I'd found something like this when I was first diagnosed.
MMS definitely helps you to lose weight, however, I have yet to receive the full benefits of that because I've been SO freakin' lazy! I'm getting back into my workout routines now, but I was so depressed this past December that I almost became the dough boy, lol. Anyway, MMS definitely speeds up the metabolism and without it I would've probably gained LOADS more weight. I don't doubt I can shed these pounds in a matter of weeks easy now with proper eating and sticking to the routine.
PNJ-yeah i agree with you on the literature where it says 15 drops twice a day. Man, i swear i think i make up some pains in my head sometimes. IDK, having herpes sucks. At times its hard for me, but with having everyone here who is doing MMS like me its made it alot easier on me. I just pray that i can get back on 15 drops and stay on 15 drops for the three weeks. Whenever i hit the 15 drops i always get set back, well hopefully third time will be a charm! As for the weight loss and MMS, i have already lost 10 pounds on MMS since starting it a month ago. I hope the rest of the ladies out there will lose weight while being on MMS too!
GODFORLIFE - I understand how you feel... I've never experienced such an array of emotions since realising I have herpes. I've gone from total denial, to humiliation and fear, to anger and hatred, and finally, to depression. Sometimes I feel all those things in one day even. Life as I knew it changed permanently, and while I am now finally in a place where I can see the positive aspects of this experience and why it couldn't have happened any other way, I still mourn the person I was and life I had. I know I'm a better person now, but change is hard on the soul. I don't reckon I could have made it this far without spirituality, and I certainly would not have had the strength to reach out to others. What helps you to heal, grow, and be happy is helping others without expectation. This is true for all of us whether we know it or not.
PS. You'll get through it, just stick with it and keep the dosages as low as you need to. Your tolerance will build quicker that way. Mind over matter!
hey all- pnj thanks for your words.
kim- how i wish i had the magical answers. but i will restate it this way- if you wash your clothes in "generic" tide you will need to use more of it to get the same effect. so since resolve step3 is not the same as mms it needs to be approached differently. I wish i could tell you exactly what to do to rid yourself of H as my heart goes out to you- but i can only make educated guesses- and some uneducated ones. my suggestion to you would be to step in the waters with us and try pure mms- what have you got to lose except h? for my pH raising i am having some help and its working wonders. i found that just eating a pH diet wasnt enough for me so i had to help my body out. I am take pH supplements from pHionbalance. and my pH has been raised from the 6's o the 7's and ive only been on it for 5days. next week i expect to see it jump to the 8's. i ordered mystuff from www.phionbalance.com i got the complete package.
grateful/godforlife when you throw up- is it immedialty after you take it or later in the day?
az1 eating only these fruits and veggies is very hard. i will admit i do munch on a few cookies (vanilla wafers) to help take the edge off. I also started chewing gum- but it helps with the desire to want to eat something else. but if i can rid mybody of this virus it will be so worth it.
question for all- when you guys take mms and have issues like the runs and throwing up and have to step back- how do you judge how much longer to take it? do you consider treatment done when you can tolerate 15drops DAILY without incident for 2-3 weeks or do you guys have another way to measure.
also can we quickly recap what are people using to take their mms with? pnj i know yourre using apple juice? what are the others using or gonna use?
techiegirl: for me, its usually 5-20 mins after you take it, but you feel soo much better after you throw up. HOw many drops are you on?
PNJ: If i was there next to you, i would give you a big hug. I think we both need a hug. None of my family knows what i have and its very hard for me to live "normal" with them. But thanks to MMS im starting to get my life back very slowly. At times its hard for me to leave the house because i would have a fear that i would get an outbreak in public. Even though i know that no one can see or feel my pain, its just still hard. I hate it when that time of month comes, because of the stupid H. i say a prayer everynight that MMS will help me get my life back. Sorry for this, i just needed to vent.
Im just so glad that you have this hub, i know i say this all the time but you have no idea how much this has helped me out.
g4l- i am not on mms yet- hope to start week from monday. im currently working on rasing my pH levels.
Hi everyone, I have been reading up on the Resolve hub for a few months. I just came over here to read up on here (thanks to techie, converting us to her little cult).
Okay, so I have HSV-1, and its no walk in the park, I get coldsores about 3 times a year,and at the WORST possible times. I just need to get rid of it, had it for just over a year now. I read up on that resolve, and it just looks like some cheap website and some used car salesman mumbo jumbo. I really just dont know about the whole resolve thing.
I started taking MMS about 2 months ago, I started at the low dose and had now problems so I quickly moved up to 15 dpd and then I started to feel a little queesy after I took it. I did it 2x for 2 weeks and then went to the maint dose of about 6 drops a day every other day.
Now, here is the thing. On thursday, I started getting the bump on my lip and I quickly bumped back up to 15dpd 2x a day, but its Sat and I got a no joke cold sore, a puss filled sore on my lip and its not going away. I am still taking the MMS to maybe help get rid of it faster, and I am using some topical treatment to help it heal faster, but I have some questions about MMS that maybe I am doing something wrong. I am not doubting MMS, when I started taking it, my cold went away in 2 days. ussually my colds stick around for 1-2 weeks.
So... in reguards to using MMS for OUR purposes. I was taking 15 drops (actually I was using a dosing syringe to get 7ml mms to 35 ml citric acid, it works out to about 15 drops). I took it in the morning as soon as I woke up, on an empty stomach, and then I waited about 1.5 hours to start drinking my OJ and other Vit C stuff. And I drank it at night around 7pm or so not having Vit C with the 1.5 hours of taking it. I am mixing the MMS with a "grape juice cocktail" which, in the nutitional info states "Not a significant source of calories from fat, sat fat, trans fat, cholesterol, dietary fiber, vitamin C, iron." So I dont think this is neutralizing the MMS. Oh, and in the morning, I take it on an empty stomach. One othe thing. I am a tall guy, I have pretty wide shoulders, I weigh over 225.
So then.... I am already used to the 15dpd, I read on here something about 3 drops for every 25 pounds?
is that 3 drops for every 25 lbs OVER the average of 175 for men? or is that 3 drops for every 25 lbs you weigh? for me that would be 27dpd.
I have not had so much nausea or "other" bad side affects, but do you need to have the adverse side affects for it to work. They say that its okay to have the diahrea, that once the bad stuff is gone, the diahrea will go away too. Do I need to increase my dosage until I feel sick?
Do I need to take MMS with food? can I take in on an empty stomach or what? is it gonna absorbe more efficiently with or without food or does it matter?
Any input you guys can give will be GREATLY appriciated.
TECHIE - The general rule of thumb is to take it for 2-3 weeks (or until you feel healthy) at 15 drops 2x daily. I cannot tell someone else how long it will take them to be completely healed as it will vary depending on your particular strain of virus. If your side effects subside before 2-3 weeks, you should still continue until you've completed your therapy as herpes could still be present, as we all know. The lack of side effects simply tells you that your body is getting healthier. As far as juice, I use Apple Juice or Prune Juice, both 100% juice with no Citric Acid, Absorbic Acid, or Vitamin C.
GODFORLIFE - It's funny you say that because I used to get quite self conscious when I was having outbreaks as well. I may as well of had a huge H on my forehead, and the joint pains were quite awful. I found it a real challenge to walk like nothing was wrong and would have to lie and say I slept the wrong way. It gets better.
S74U - First I want to let you know that many individuals will have to take MMS longer than that timeframe depending on how aggressive the strain we carry. Having said that, I definitely believe your juice is to blame. This happened to me around New Year's Eve, I realised that my dosages had been compromised because the juice I was using had Citric Acid in the ingredients. A juice "cocktail" almost certainly contains Citric Acid or Absorbic Acid. You'll want to eliminate those ingredients in your juice and get something that is either fresh or contains 100% juice. Carrot and Apple Juice works fine, and I've had great success using Prune Juice. Just make sure you read the ingredients as well as the vitamin contents. Avoid Vitamin C for 2-3 hours before or after taking MMS. 1 hour is not long enough and will dilute the solution as it's working.
In regards to eating, it is recommended you eat 15-20 mins prior as it will help prevent cramping. The founder, Jim Humble, stated not long ago that most who have benefitted from MMS did not take it on an empty stomach and he himself eats first. So it honestly doesn't matter if you've eaten first, and you'll avoid a few problems that way.
When you say you are heavier than average, is that in terms of height or body mass? If it's height, I don't think you have anything to worry about, but if it's body mass, you may need to increase your dosage. The key is to take it for the allotted time or until you feel healthy. The fact that you had no side effects and are not completely healthy tells me that you may not have been getting an effective dosage. First, try a different juice and see how you feel after working your way up to a higher dose and take it from there. If my hunch is right, you will feel something. At that point, there's no hurry and you can decide later to either take it longer or increase it based on your height when that time comes.
PNJ....Thanks for your input, the SECOND you mentioned Acsorbic and Citric acid I looked on the ingredients....it does not contain either of them. Maybe someone can verify for me, I use this "eating right" juice from safeway. I use the "light cranberry raspbarry juice drink" and the "light grape cranberry juice drink". there are a few other flavors, but they had vit c so I use these two instead. I will take your advice and try another juice. I really dont want to try carrot juice as it is very high in fat soluble vitamins, which tend to accumulate in the body. there were a group of 'juicers' back in the day that drank a LOT of carrot juice, and they all turned orange, like those fake tans. I believe the condition is called 'beta carotenitis' (I am NOT kidding!!). Quick survey for eveyone...what kind of juice do you drink? anyone try to take MMS with just distilled water? (I am guessing there are gonna be a bunch of big fat NO's).
GAWD....I really want to get rid of this cold sore QUICK. Maybe I am just too self conscience about it, but this looks like a little strobe light on my face. I went to whold food and got some L-lysine, I am gonna take 1500 mg a day to try to kick this thing. Is it gonna be okay to use L-lysine while on MMS?
Techie.....I will try to get more info and post it here, but about your attempt to raise your ph.... There is this thing called the "paleo diet" call it the caveman diet or stone age diet, but the premise is that we have evolved over 5 million years to eat: lean meat, fruits, veggie...and that is IT. we are not supposed to be eating grains, bean, potatos, dairy, sugar, or salt. that there are man toxins or "anti-nutrients" that bind to and prevent us from absorbing the vitamins and minerals we eat from the good list. that is why we need to grind and cook all the stuff from the 'bad' list and why we dont need to cook the foods on the 'good' list. ANyways... in one book I read..."paleo diet for athletes" the authur stated that eating carbs lowers your ph, and eating fruits and veggies (reguardless of their acid content) raises your ph. and that athlete's muscles produce lactic acid when they work out, so on a high carb diet, their blood becomes MORE acidic, but while on the paleo diet, with a higher ph, the lactic acid was neutralized immediately due to their higher ph so their recovery time was drasticly reduced compared to the "carb loaders" and he stated that the number of upper respiratory infections was significantly reduced when on the paleo diet. This all goes along the lines of what you were saying about having a higher ph should help with fighting viruses. but instead of taking the mineral tabs, you may want to consider a long term strategy of maintaining your high ph by staying away from the processed carbs. Its not really a 'low carb' diet, its just a 'low processed carb' diet.
okay here are some moderate to long reads, but pretty interesting. (hope it does not offend anyone here who might be a vegetarian)
http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html
The only problem with the caveman diet is that cavemen dont eat pizza, and I LOVE pizza.
PNJ...thanks again for your input, I WILL increase my dose to about 10ml MMS (about 20 drops) and even though my juice does not have acsorbic / citric acid, I will change my juice until I get queezy.
I looked up the dosage for H on the mineralmiracle.org website..
"Generally herpes is one of the hardest things to handle but they can be handled, just keep increasing the doses to at least 15 drops 3 times a day for a week or 2. It will eventually get rid of it."
With this information that is why I am trying to do 15 drops/3x/day. I have attempted but dropped to 15/2x/day. I am also trying to get rid of a yeast infection, this is debatable whether it is working or not.
Techie asked about vomiting....I took it on an empty stomach and 4 hours later I was sick, running to the bathroom...didn't last long and I felt better in about an hour.
I do have a complaint about the miraclemineral.org site...nothing is very consistent other than take dosage for a week or two until symptoms are no longer there. And how many drops are too many, or where is the ceiling on this...until you no longer can tolerate them. It's hard to tell if one still has H if you are like me who gets them 5-6x/year if its gone. How long should I take MMS and how many drops....just something I have been thinking about....
We have heard of people being cured with MMS, so hey you people who have been cured, enlighten us with some information....it would be great to hear. Someone in one of the posts said they knew of someone who was cured....come aboard....lets know how you did it!
S74U - Ok, I've done some research and Sodium Citrate is pretty much the same thing as Citric Acid, so you dosages have indeed been compromised. I remember seeing that juice in the aisle and didn't know what it was at the time so I didn't buy it. It turns out my hunch was right. In regards to juice, you really want to stick with the 100% juices. They are difficult to find in Safeway, but Tree Top makes a brand of 100% Apple Juice, and you can find Prune Juice with a yellow label that is also 100% juice with nothing added and no Vitamin C. Carrot Juice works well, but I've not been able to find that at my local market (Safeway). I think you'd have to drink A LOT of carrot juice for that to happen, lol.
Did you know you can put MMS on your skin? Just put it on without diluting it, then wash it off after 30 seconds or 1 minute. I have no idea if it burns, but I will find out today because I will be applying it topically starting today (for my last week of treatment) just to do a "final clean up" before my therapy comes to a close.
Cheers for the diet info!
GRATEFUL - 15 drops 2x daily for 3 weeks and 15 drops 3x daily for 2 weeks both equal 42 doses. They are the same in my opinion. Whatever regimen we opt for, there will always be a possibility that we have to extend our therapies due to the nature of the virus. The reason you don't see exact dosages is because MMS is not a drug. This is not an antibiotic you're taking, so dosages may vary for some, and it's something you have to take until the herpes is gone.
PNJ - Sodium citrate.....BINGO!!!! TreeTop apple juice it is then. Thanks, I will name my firstborn after you.
ALright then, I will apply MMS to the beacon and after that I will put the topical stuff on it. RIGHT after I get some treetop.
S74U - I am happy to know that my name will live on, lol! You know what's funny? When I first read your post, I thought you said you were going to apply it to the bacon, hahahaha!!!
s74u: I drink Tree Top apple juice in the small bottles...I looked at the large bottles and they had vitamin C. So check to see for vitamin C...Tree Top makes different apple juices.
Pnj28: that makes sense with the drops... just to see is I can do it, I'll try to do the 3x/day, right now I am at 2x/day. Thanks for the infor!
Pnj28 your post about the bacon to s74u had me giggling....thanks for the laugh!
"Follow these instructions carefully. Mix 1 drop of MMS to 5 drops 10% citric acid sollution in a glass, wait at least 3 minutes but no longer than 5, then apply the acitvated sollution directly to your bacon."
PNJ- that was the best laugh I had all year. The only other time I laughed like that was at my last job, we had a russian guy, alex, who we conned into saying "Must catch moose and squirrel."
okay, got the TreeTop, its the "3 apple blend" NOT from concentrate. Intredients: Apple juice.
Thanks for your input, and thanks for the laugh. I will post later to let everyone know how the status of the bacon.
LOL!!!
PISSEDOFF - You're in the wrong HUB for that nonsense. This is a private HUB and I will delete any posts that are made for the soul purpose of starting debates, arguments, or insulting anyone here. Please visit http://hubpages.com/hub/Herpes_Cure if you would like someone to argue with. Your posts are not welcome here.
s74u- no cult hehe- just a safe GOOD place for us MMSers. As i was reading your posts i had the same thoughts its the juice. Looks like PNJ had that base covered so. I will look into the links you posted- i am doing a pure alkaline diet this is day 6 for me and my results have been AMAZING. I decided to go with the pH supplements as I was a very free eater and consumed many many things that were not good for me. Several cups of coffee a day- many pepsis (4 or more a day) and many other junk foods- so I decided before i stated MMS I would detox and change my diet.
pnj i thank you so much for ridding the negative posts on the spot. i didnt see that last one- but this has been a smooth flowing hub for two weeks and its a great feel. i came out of the shell today and posted on the original hub and found myself in a senseless debate so i quickly retracted. like before i will concentrate on this hub and my own.
thx guys for the throwing up info. im just trying to figure out exactly how im going to do this.
all the bacon talk is just wrong! making me want some breakfast and yal know i cant have any of the good stuff.
PNJ, I saw your post regarding juices and not quite sure what you are referring to. I mix the MMS with lemon juice and then let it sit. Then I ad a little distilled water and drink. I usually have a sip on a diet drink as a chaser and that is it. I understoood this method was OK,
Chip
hey all that beared with me- i have EXCELLENT news I finally hit my goal of pH of 8.0 or highter today. I am reallly thrilled as this is just day 6 for me and when i started i was in the 6's (acidic). while i dont want to get it much higher than 8.5 as that could be dangerous in other ways i am very happy. i do need to return some acidic foods back to my diet just to keep the pH balanced but i have reached my goal and am one step closer to my cure.
altering my pH is truly waking up H. As reported earlier ive had two bumps/pimps on my rear- i had some sores and tinging on my lips(never happens unless i eat pineapples)- and well today I have a sore in my mouth with a white head (never got that before) and two or three bumps in the southern area. I will be starting MMS soon enough as i can see its coming out. the beautiful thing is it doesnt last long. the incidents on my read and my lips ended quickly and today is first day ive noticed mouth and bumps below. lets see how long this takes to clear. i dont know that its H- but could be. like i said ive never seen this before.
CHIP - What you're doing is fine. Lemon Juice can be used as an activator. What I am referring to is when you wish to dilute it with a juice rather than distilled water. You may activate MMS with Lemon Juice, Lime Juice, or Citric Acid, but you may not dilute it with anything that contains Vitamin C, Citric Acid, Absorbic Acid, and Sodium Citrate (a form of Citric Acid).
Ok thanks, just wanted to make sure I didn't read something wrong in the first place. I am 32 days now on my electrojet and will do it for another 60 just to make sure I am in three cycles of the 28 days which is what my friend says is the cycle of a virus. Did take a breather today and only did one MMS at about 10 drops because the 17 I did yesterday was a little too much. I had a couple extra drop by accident so I was out today and did not want to have adverse reactions like yesterday. Anyhow thanks and no really having and other effects. Scheduled to go see a dermatologist for the chronic lip inflamation. Hopefully he will give me a majic pill to get rid of that . It has been going on for too long.
Chip
CHIP - I forgot to ask you about your lip. Did you ever figure out what that is?
PNJ- i am at 14 drops for a couple of days nows and today i started to get a non stop burning sensation down there. Any ideas, i know the H causes burning, but Holy Cow this sucks.
Well, I've started my MMS today. I'm a wuss and have started on 1 drop this morning. I'm actually right in the middle of an OB too, so will be interesting to see what happens. The OB is only small, with the padrome being the most uncomfortable thing, however I've been keeping it under control with Lysine and Vitamin C. Obviously I won't be taking it today as I want to see how the MMS goes, and may increase to 2 drops tonight. Already feeling a little "strange". Have this warm feeling in my chest and tummy, and feeling on the edge of a little nauseaus, but nothing worth worrying about. Obviously my body is in a bad way to be feeling slightly nauseous on one drop only. Anyhow, will keep you posted!
godforlife - I've been reading Jim Humble's book and he basically states that if an ailment isn't clearing on a particular dosage, then it's a case of the dose needing to be increased. I know you have struggled at 15 drops, and he also states that if the nausea is still present at a certain dosage, yet the illness isn't clearing, to just stick with the dose you can handle for however long it takes, and to keep trying to up the dose. He did also mention bringing the doses closer together too, so maybe trying the 2nd dose after 4 to 5 hours? Do you have his book? If not, I strongly suggest you get it. It's only $10.00, and the first half is a free download on his website. I do believe that if anyone has problems financially in purchasing his book, then a simple email to him ensure that he gets it out to you free of charge.
Good luck with it!
p.s. Following on from my 1st post... after only half hour from my first MMS application this morning (only one drop!), already I feel that I have a little diarrhea. LOL. This means it's working peoples!!!
Did I mention slight indigestion and heartburn too? Feeling a bit icky in an indescribable way. Okay, so I need to start my own blog. lol. Can't believe I feel funny only one drop! I read your blog PNJ and your first day was on 2 drops, yet you didn't feel "funny"? Did you have mucus? My sinuses are beginning to drip down my throat too. Argh, can you imagine me a 15 drops, let alone 1!!! LOL.
AZ1,
I hope everything is ok with you. I plan on purchasing MMS this week. I wonder if your current health and weight plays a part in the effects on people.
GODFORLIFE - Did the burning sensation turn out to be an outbreak?
AZ1 - I'm a bit surprised at the side effects you describe, as they are extremely uncommon at such a small dose for someone without a terminal disease. Do you reckon it's just nerves? I did not have any side effects until about 6 drops, but yes, I was extremely nervous when I first started MMS and felt a bit "funny" initially. That "funny" feeling doesn't really go away, but the nervousness does. As you see the positive changes occurring, you will come to realise that that "funny" feeling is actually a good sign, as all it is is an energy surge. And yes, I did have the mucous issue, as I had a cold at the time and am technically an asthmatic (though I no longer need my inhaler after MMS). At only 2 drops it was like all the "gunk" left my body at once, lol.
So a few questions; what did you eat prior, what did you drink it with, and are there any other ailments you're dealing with at the moment?
hey az1 so glad to hear you started. i decided im gonna start on Monday too.
yes the runs and vomiting are a good thing. it means the toxins are coming out of your body.
hope all is well grateful/godforlife.
PNJ - You are right! I think it was a case of nerves. I am a nervy person in general, and have in fact been on a herbal formula to help de-stress, so I think the "funny" feeling was definately me being a little nervous initially. I feel great now! And I've had a surge of energy to really get down to cleaning all nooks and crannys in the house, which I think has a lot to do with the fact that I'm excited about MMS. Also, I have had a lot going on emotionally over the last year or so, and it hasn't subsided as yet, so I would say that plays a part too. With the solution, I used one drop MMS and 5 drops citric acid solution and let it sit for 3 mintues, and then added 100% cloudy apple juice. It has no preservatives or additives either. I couldn't taste the MMS, but I could smell it when it activated. Didn't smell bad at all, but rather, just like a chlorinated pool. I think the fact that I'd only had 1 piece of toast half hour prior may have been a mistake, as I was hungry not long after taking the MMS. So I'll make sure I have a fully tummy next time.
I have to say, there is definately one side affect after only 1 drop. The nasty padrome I had yesterday and this morning... is gone! Bang! Just like that. So, I'm going to up my dose to 2 drops tonight and 3 in the morning. See how we go.
techie - Cool!!!! We can start together then! Woohoo! It'll be interesting to see the difference between a hi PH balanced body, and well, my body lol. Good luck with it! Are you starting on 1 or 2 drops?
804 - Thanks for the encouragement, I'm really looking forward to my journey and the end result. Great to hear that you are heading on the same journey, and the beauty of it is, we can share all our journeys here! As for my weight, I'm in a healthy range as I'm 156 cm and weigh 63 kilos. However I'd like to get down to about 59 kilos so that I can fit back into my pre baby clothes (he's 3 now!). Good luck with it 804!
can you use juice made from concentrate or is it non concentrated juice? I have some tropicana pure 100% juice pomegrate blueberry and it says made from concentrate. it has no vitamin C not sure about the other things but I dont see them on there. Is mms like resolve and you cant engage in activty while taking?
AZ1 - The smell get stronger in the higher doses, so train yourself not to care now, or you'll suffer the way I did in the beginning. It was so hard to retrain my brain, lol. Stress and nerves will definitely play games with you. I remember when it was getting rid of my cold and all this mucous was coming out of me, I was sure I was dying, haha! I SO need to workout tonight (and probably every night for the next 2 weeks).... ugh!
DONTKNOWY - So far, the ingredients we've determined you should watch out for are Citric Acid, Vitamin C, Absorbic Acid, and Sodium Citrate (same as Citric Acid). Jim Humble says you should stick with fresh squeezed or 100% juice, and I'm inclined to agree because there are just too many ingredients sneaked into the other types. You can use whichever juice you fancy, but you should know you could be compromising your dosages if you're not careful. I reckon you have to use your own better judgement in regards to engaging in activity. Obviously, if you are engaging in sexual activity or being intimate during therapy, any results from MMS could be null and void. There is no rule that says you can't, but why take the chance?
techiegirl: congrats on getting at 8.0, i am happy for you!
AZ1-thank you for the information. I do have the book and have read it several times, but i guess i didnt read that part of the book.
As for your MMS journey good luck! I remember when i took my first drop i had a pain in my mouth and it was because i had a really bad tooth infection and MMS was taking care of it. You are going to feel alot of weird things going on with your body. I used to have a really bad sinus problem, but MMS took care of that. Maybe thats why your nose is starting to run. One thing i have learned, for me, is that greasy foods and MMS do not work well with each other. I dont know if PNJ or grateful has had the same problem with greasy food.
Techie: thanks for thinking about me and good luck with your MMS journey.
PNJ: well i was looking for a sore and didnt find anything, but now im getting the pains in my legs, which is what i get every time before an outbreak...ugh. I had these before and nothing came out of it. I've been on 14 drops for a while and im still not sure when i want to move up to 15.
Im looking forward to AZ1 and techies results as they do this together.
GODFORLIFE - I used to get the pain in my legs also. Perhaps it's just the virus being killed off. I certainly pray you don't have to deal with an outbreak. I've not had any negative experiences with foods. As a matter of fact, I've had pizza the last couple of nights and meatloaf and burgers over the past few weeks and it was fine.
My MMS update... the last time I was on this board - I was not having any negative effects from MMS, I was up to 9 drops 2 x's a day. Since this past Tuesday I've had the liquid poops and am down to 6 drops once a day now.... ugh - guess it's going to take me a very, very long time to get up to 15 drops twice a day.
Hey, I found a recipe for bathing in MMS. You must have a very clean bath tub with no soap scum or cleaner residue as the soap will deactivate MMS. Use 5 to 10 inches of water - as hot as you can stand because the heat opens up your skin pores and gets the blood circulating. Mix 3 tablespoons of Citric Acid to 20 drops of MMS and activate for 3 minutes, drop in your bathwater and soak for 20 minutes and rub your skin. I've soaked a couple of times and come out of the bath with a faint smell on my skin as if I've been in a swimming pool. The suggestion was if your body can not tolerate drinking MMS because of nausea or sever diarrhea then bath in it.
Just thought I'd let you know - case anyone was interested.
CURIOUS - That's interesting, whereabouts did you read that? I may try that as a way to get it on my skin externally.
PNJ: Check your email, i just sent you a PDF file of bathing with MMS. I am going to start bathing with it once i get on my last week at 15 drops. What i read is that you have to continue your dosages and take the bath. Whatever it takes to get rid of this virus i am going to do it!
GODFORLIFE - I completely agree. My therapy may almost be complete, but that doesn't mean herpes will be completely eliminated and I'd rather do overkill than have to do this treatment all over again.
godforlife - How funny! When you told PNJ to check her email for a PDF file of bathing with MMS, my first thoughts were, "what, a pic of you in the bath with MMS?" lol.
Well, I upped to 2 drops tonight, and feeling fine! Will do 3 drops tomorrow. Padrome's completely gone, and OB is small, and no itch. Yippee!
pnj28 - I honestly can't tell you from what web page I got that info from.
Question - has anyone experienced tenderness in their lymph nodes while on MMS?
Here is a link I found to bathing in mms.
That article was pretty interesting. For those of you who are drops away from the 15 mark and said you had to go back this should help you get back up. I still havent started mine yet. Its just sitting in the cabinet for now. After reading so much I believe I will start sometime this week.
pnj28, sorry it took so long to get back ..but i am in great health..no other issues or anything..just herpes..i'm one big herpe!
hi all- glad to hear all is well with the people here. i started my mms today. just took one drop and didnt have any issues with it except it kinda tinged my throat. ill try two drops tonight and go from there. pH is still fine its actually testing between 8.0 and 8.5. i ordered a digitial ph reader today so i can keep accurate record of it.
AZ1- how funny! That made me laugh! I need that right now. I don't think that anyone wants to see me in a bath, hahaha. How is your MMS journey going?
PNJ- let me know how the bath thing goes, and some tricks of the trade. So this way when i start doing it i know what to do. Also let me know how many days you are going to do it for.
techie- have fun with your MMS journey!
DONT- If you are scared to start it here is some advice, take it SLOW. I found out that the first time i tried it i was rushing and was sick half of the time, but now that i stay on drops of a couple of days then move to the next, i avoided alot of nausea and diarrhea. We will all be here for you!
Grateful- where are you at?
AZ1 - Ha! That's us, trading nude photos of bathing and applying MMS, LOL!
CURIOUS - No, I've never experienced pain in the lymph nodes, but I understand that this is a symptom of herpes, so it's possible that that pain could be associated with MMS doing its job.
KIM - I don't know what to tell you. I do not know enough about resolve or the amount of Chlorine Dioxide they use in Step 3 to suggest anything in terms of a higher dose. The results in regards to Resolve also appears to vary quite a bit more than what they report, so personally I have trust issues with them.
TECHIE - Did you add enough juice or water? If you're drinking it from a coffee mug, there should be enough juice or water to fill it. I mix my MMS in the mug so that I can just add the juice or water and drink, that way I don't lose any of the solution by transferring it to another container.
GODFORLIFE - I won't be doing the baths this week. I've decided to just use it topically on the skin, as I do not have enough Citric Acid Crystals to mix enough for baths and still do my treatment. I will apply it topically this afternoon and will let you know if it burns... <biting nails>
Hello Friends! I hoping to start my MMS journey this week. I'm trying to build my nerves up. I go back and forth but I know I need to at least give it a shot. I'm like all of you, I don't want to supress I want to eradicate.
Question: Has anyone taken MMS along with their anti-viral meds? Do you know if that is ok? What about reproduction, are there any effects there? Just asking, I want lil one's one day.
Thanks for your help...back to reading the hubs...whew, it's hard to keep up. :-)
update: still doing the MMS 15 drops 2x/day. Been on this for about 4 days after trying 3x/day. One good thing about MMS is it keeps my body "cleaned out"...I no longer have constipation like I felt on Resolve. I know I weird others experienced quite the opposite on Resolve than I did!
Techie - That's great news that you've started your MMS! I'm on my 2nd day today and about to do 3 drops. Started on 1 drop yesterday morning, 2 drops last night and now 3 drops this morning. I'm feeling fine so far! Have to say though, just 1 drop was enough to stop a nasty padrome in it's tracks! Had the full leg and buttock pain, and within 2 hours of taking the first drop, the padrome was gone! Imagine what 15 drops does?
PNJ - He he he - swapping bath pics.. now we could all share bath pics! LOL. Ummm, nah.. no-one wants to see me bathing in MMS lol.
Godforlife - You're on 14 drops at the moment aren't you? Have you tried raising it one drop again? You'll get there!
Melissa - I know how you feel with the nerves thing. My nerves are shot! I was even on nervous system herbs to help calm me down in general (nothing to do with H or MMS). Just do it girl! I did yesterday, and damn I feel fine that I'm doing something to fight this sucker of a virus. The war is now on between me, my body and Herpes. It CANNOT share my body.. there's just not enough room for me and it! Good luck with it, and share your journey here with the rest of us!
Off I go to take my 3 drops... yeehaaa!
PNJ - Forgot to mention, thank you for the advice on training my brain early on the smell. I can see that you're right. Yesterday, I smelled it when it activated and it just smelt like Chlorine, however if and when it makes me nauseous, I KNOW how the brain works with association of smell. Sooooo, 3 drops this morning... I didn't smell it as it was activating (left the room actually), and when I came back in after 3 minutes, I breathed through my mouth whilst adding the juice, and did the same whilst drinking it. This way, I couldn't smell or taste anything but apple juice. All's good so far!
Good evneing to everyone i was actually on the resolve website (new member) and dont like what i saw of them (resolve) i ordered mms and will hope it treats hsv2 nicely. I was diagnoses with HSV2 however could not get the doctor to do blood test rural docter. Anyways ive never had outbreaks with blisters etc, other than possibly one blister.(may of been ingrown hair i dont know) anyways i do experience itch and burning about once a month usually in the testicalir area's and mid way up. I hope this will get it all taken care of, any adivce to start off wiht. I plan on going to a clinic/lab next time i go into the city and getting test performed to get my number's.
uuuuggggg. Okay, so when I started MMS a while back, I started with ONE drop, and I felt nothing, so I increased each dose by one drop and still felt NOTHING, right after 5 drops I increased by 2 drops until I got to 10 drops, then I started feeling a litle nausia, so then I increased by 1 drop each dose. I was on 15 drops 2x a day for a few weeks then went to the 'maintenance dose' and that is when I got that cold sore I mentioned a few days ago (thanks to PNJ for his advice the other day.....and the bacon joke).
So, what I learned is....my dose was likely compromised due to the juice I was using, That I MAY need to use more than 15 drops since I weigh 225. and I should ahve gone to 3x a day for AT LEAST 2 weeks.
I immediately changed my juice and since I had no problems with 15 drops, I though I could be a trooper and go all the way to 21 drops and not pay the toll. I WAS WRONG. I am using one of those dosing syringes, which is 1ml with .02 ml imcrements. I figured that 15 drops was around .7 mls so I am slowly gonna increase my dose by .1 ml's per dose until I am up to 2ml's per day, then I will try to go back down to .7mls per dose 3x per day and work my way up to 1ml per dose 3x per day. I will try to stay there for 2-3 weeks, then go to a maintenace dose of .5 mls per dose once a day until I run out.
My cold sore is doing MUCH better. Its gotten smaller and I think it might not even scab up. (its always the scab that makes you look like a leper). I have been using that topical stuff, but I think I waited too long before usingit, so next time (if there is a next time) I will use it right as soon as I think I am getting a cold sore.
I gotta say, I was using MMS for a month and a half, and getting a cold sore REALLY got to me, I thought I had gotten rid of it with mms, but I think my dosing was not correct. I will again now and see how it works.
Like most guys, I cannot, to save my life, follow directions until AFTER I muck it up (once or twice). So now, armed with a high caliber juice, and superior dosing tactics, I will be returning to the battle.
The cold sore is doing MUCH better now, and lighting at work kinda sucks, so maybe no one will notice.
And remember boys and girls.....eat your purina caveman chow. LEAN MEAT, FRUITS, VEGGIES. stay away from the grains, beans, potatos, dairy and sugar....well, keep in in extreme moderation.
AZ im moving right along too. I did my first dose 1 drop- second dose 2drops- morning 3 drops. I learned even before now not to sniff it else i wouldnt be able to stand it. mind over matter is really key so i too mix it leave the room come back pour my juice and drink nonstop till its gone. when i do that i cant taste it till its at the end.
pnj i didnt use a coffee class but a 12ounce glass and filled it 1/3way with juice and chased it with a little more juice. it kinda feels like being a little dehydrated but i know i have been drinking like 3liters a wayer a day so i know thats not the case. its no big deal- i can handle that. i havent experienced any sides effects yet but i am so anxious to get up to where everyone else is. if i can tolerate uppin my doses like i plan - this time next week ill be at 15drops.
grateful you just go force your body to accept it 3x a day i see (haha) how much time are you putting in between doses. i learned the doses work for 12hours so thats why i do mines 12hours apart. just throwing it out there and plz correct me if i am off base- could you try doing a smaller dose in between? for instance 15drops am and pm- but the midday dose maybe 6drops? if this is what youre already doing sorry..
godforlife how you doing? hows the leg pain? did an ob form yet? i hope the mms is helping with that
firerage welcome- i think i sent a message out to you on the other hub. you will like it much better over here. while we are free to discuss other cures this is truly a mms support place and i truly feel it. my tip to you would be to avoid vitc- be sure to research to make sure you are not coming in contact with it in foods- some juices have 120%vit c added so plz stay away. start off with low drops and work your way up. we have countless reports from people (not posting here but else where) where they tried to get to 15drops too fast and it caused a lot of problems.
chip how you doing? melissa welcome- i think ive talked to you in chat before and on the other hub- so nice to see new editions over here.
s74u im sorry but your post had me laughing. I was just telling firerage about it not being a good idea to jump right into it. so what dose are you actually able to handle? how long were you in break mode? i am so glad to hear you are fairing much better. which juice did you end up going with?
Techiegurl: Okay, my brain has been in the fog since the taking of Resolve and then the MMS. I have a hard time "thinking". So thanks for the suggestion of starting the 3 dose/day with less drops. Didn't even occur to me, I was determined to get those drops down! I try to space out the drops 12 hours but now I am going to try your suggestion and space them out 8 hours.
Since taking MMS, I have this kind of acid feeling all the time, anyone else experiencing this?
Okay the "bacon" thing is still making me laugh! I smile every time you guys mention it...again thanks for the laughs!!!!
s74u: which juice did you decide to take? Sound like things are going better for you...that is excellent!
Good night everyone...sweet, sweet dreams!!!!
MELISSA - To my knowledge, MMS has not affected anyone's reproductive system.
AZ1 - Perhaps we should all add photos of ourselves taking MMS baths, LOL! Yes, the smell association is no joke at all. The smell alone makes me think I'm going to be ill, and it's all because of the side effects I experienced before so I try really hard not to smell it now.
FIRERAGE101 - Welcome! If I could give you only one piece of advice in regards to MMS it would be to TAKE YOUR TIME. So many times I read about people who report very negative side effects and how it's so intolerable and horrible, etc. only to find out later that they were not following the instructions and going far too fast. There's no rush, just take your time, follow the instructions, and you'll be feeling great in no time.
S74U - Ha! Well at least you know what to do now. I'm not sure how to compare our measurements, as I usually do actual drops. Also, I would continue taking MMS until you feel healthy. That is what the instructions say, and I reckon it would save you some time. Personally, I'm still experiencing mild gas, and I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't continue MMS until ALL side effects are diminished... I just can't figure out whether or not the gas is something that a healthy person would experience regardless. I had a chuckle about the caveman diet, lol! Hey I read something about blood types and diets, and I thought some of us have evolved to include different diets? Have you read anything on that?
TECHIE - You should be upping your drops per day. It may not be a big deal for some, but personally I reckon upping your drops per dosage could be a bit harsh on the body, as you're not giving it a chance to get used to the higher dosages.
Do I smell bacon....?
PNJ - Oops, I'm doing the same thing as techie, and I'm upping my drops per dose. Which means, I'm up to 4 drops tonight, and it's only my 2nd day. Now I'm nervous! I haven't had any real nausea as yet, however I have had the same gas issues as you. It's uncomfortable to say the least. I'll see how I go with 4 drops tonight (I've just taken them), and if ok, I'll leave it at 4 all of tomorrow, and then up to 5 drops on Thursday morning. I agree that adding a drop each day is probably the best bet. When did the nausea set in for you? 5 drops?
PNJ- thanks for the response...I always get nervous about things like that. I just want to be sure.
Techie- Yes, I've chatted with you on viruscure...I don't log in there much or post on the hunbs much but I've been around for some time now. I started out on the other hub amd posted there a few times when I was on resolve but since then I stopped and I now I usually just lurk.
Aa far as drops: Did you all purchase another dropper or are you using the top that is attached to the bottle which has the small hole in it. I tried to do a test in the sink the other day and 4 drops came out really fast....lol. I see you have to take it slow with the dropping.
Techiegurl: I am so sorry but I put your name instead of mine...what did I tell you about the BRAIN FOG I have...I am so embarrass....so sorry!!!
Everyone GRATEFUL wrote this not Techiegurl:
Techiegurl: Okay, my brain has been in the fog since the taking of Resolve and then the MMS. I have a hard time "thinking". So thanks for the suggestion of starting the 3 dose/day with less drops. Didn't even occur to me, I was determined to get those drops down! I try to space out the drops 12 hours but now I am going to try your suggestion and space them out 8 hours.
Since taking MMS, I have this kind of acid feeling all the time, anyone else experiencing this?
Okay the "bacon" thing is still making me laugh! I smile every time you guys mention it...again thanks for the laughs!!!!
s74u: which juice did you decide to take? Sound like things are going better for you...that is excellent!
Good night everyone...sweet, sweet dreams!!!!
Good Morning everyone!!!!!!!!
the techiegulr post in black is actually gratefuls post to me. its so east to do that. grateful let me know how it goes- i hope it works out for you.
AZ1 i was upping my drops each dose until i got to the point where i encountered an issue. even though i wanted to be at 15drops by nextweek pnj is right slower is better. we dont wanna go too fast and encounter issues.im gonna see at which drop amount i encounter a problem at and stay there a few until i get it worked out.
melissa- i dont like my current drop solution. i just poured lemon juice in the second bottle shipped with mms. the drops come out to slow for me and getting to 75drops is going to be a nightmare. I am going to try to find a small droplet to use. what ive learned is it doesnt matter which dropper device you use- long as its consistent for both so things stay proportionate.
grateful- grat minds think alike. i was posting at the same time as you.
I always thought it to be a normal condition as almost 80% of people have it some form or another; dormant until weather changes. Hope it works out
OCBILL - Hello there. Are you talking about genital herpes or oral herpes? I believe oral herpes is rather common, but this is not true with genital herpes. Both can be a nightmare depending on the strain.
Techiegirl: I am still having the leg pain. Yesterday it was getting pretty bad and the same with today. I'm still waiting for the OB. But i am praying to God that i dont get one. Like PNJ said maybe its the virus dying off, i dont know but i hope so.
How many drops are you at now?
AZ1- i moved up yesterday and let me tell you that its getting intense, not vomiting but with the leg pain. I do believe that MMS is working to get rid of the issue. I just wish i had it like PNJ where it was over with in the first week, but everyone of us is different.
How many drops are you at now?
PNJ-Right now i am sorta having a sore throat, and my nose is running. I think this is my allergies being cleaned out again. I say sorta because it doesnt hurt, its just uncomfortable. Any ideas on this. As i stated to AZ1 and Techiegirl, the pain is getting pretty bad on the legs, i havent felt this extreme pain before, but hopefully this means that virus is dying off. I dont know if im going to have an OB or not but this is crazy!!! Please let me know your thought.
Grateful- how are you doing?
GODFORLIFE - I am on my final week of 15 drops. I just noticed something remarkable today when I took my dose this morning. I had only had some apple slices, a banana, and a bit of yogurt about 45 minutes before taking MMS and I got no stomach cramps. Normally my meal would need to be a bit more significant. I've not yet decided whether or not I want to extend again, but I would feel better about extending my therapy than I would if I stopped and had to restart. I'll let you know what I decide the end of this week.
Herpes hides in the crevices of your body. If you're not getting an outbreak, it could simply be MMS interacting with the virus. The allergies, runny nose, and sore throat could also be herpes related, as herpes presents itself with cold/flu like symptoms and joint pains, etc. My advice would be to press on and don't stop or get too aggressive.
EVERYONE - So I know it's very tempting to get to 15 drops as quickly as possible, but I can promise you it's not a good idea. Up your drops daily and don't be afraid to stay at that level a day or two. This is how MMS is worked through your body and kills virus. If you get too aggressive, you bog your body down with all the junk being thrown out and it becomes "distracted" from killing virus. Likewise, if you take 4 drops in the morning, then turn around and take 5-6 drops in the evening, you're not giving your body ANY time to take out the trash that day and you run the risk of overload. I did not experience any negative side effects until around 7 drops, but I would not have known that or made it to that point as quickly as I did if I had not taken my time getting there. Having no side effects at a certain level is great, but don't forget, this doesn't mean your body isn't adjusting and working on the junk internally, so don't be in a hurry!
ALL - I just wanted to add to what I was just saying about taking it slow. The reason why this is so significant is because, as your body and MMS is killing off virus, unhealthy bacteria, and pathogens, all of this will be expelled through the bowel. This is a daily occurrence, so in essence, you'll want to give your body at least one day to deal with a certain drop level. This extra time is also beneficial in the sense that you will take MMS longer and it will work it's way through more nooks and crannies.
Well, I'm at 4 drops now, and I'm going to stay at 4 drops today, and go up to 5 drops tomorrow. I must say, last night when I upped my dose to 4 drops, I noticed hot flushes about half hour after taking the solution. It wasn't painful or uncomfortable... just very noticeable. I knew MMS was doing something then. I do have a small OB downstairs, however it's healing very, very quickly. I did have a bit of a sore throat with the hot flushes too.. nothing major, and felt a little icky. Not sick or nauseous, just tired and a bit "weird". Today I have a headache, and it's a bit nasty... but I have always suspected some allergies, so I'm thinking the MMS is clearing them. My head hurts! Another thing I must mention.... I've been suffering from an ezcema type rash behind my right ear, of which I've had to treat topically with steroid ointment, on an ongoing basis. If I don't, it gets itchy, scaly and then ultimately cracks and starts weeping. I've only had this since contracting genital H 18 months ago, so go figure! Maybe it's H related? Anyhow, it's clearing on its own without ointment!!!!! This is a first too!
Godforlife - You're doing so well with it all! I would definately say that MMS is working on H, if you don't have an OB as yet, yet you have a nasty padrome. The MMS stopped my padrome as I had the same symptoms, but the OB had already formed before starting MMS. Having said that, the OB is very small so I'm pretty sure MMS has done its work... and all on 2 and 3 drops only! How long have you had H for?
Techie - How many drops are you up to now? And, what issues did you get at how many drops?
PNJ - Woohoo! You must be so excited that you're nearly finished! Although, I'll be like you, and will probably ponder how long I should continue at that dosage as I wouldn't want to start all over again. Hmmm, I'm actually considering doing it 3x daily, once I get to twice 15 drops daily. After reading the book, it suggests that absolutely nothing can live in the body at this dosage. It's worth thinking about anyway.
AZ1 - The headaches and "weird" feeling is normal. I got very nervous when I was at that stage, but pressed on and it does subside. It's just the junk in your body saying WTF, lol.
I'm SO happy to have made it this far, but I'm thinking I may go longer... 3 times a day sounds like a lot, but actually, I'm not experiencing anymore negative side effects, so I may consider it along short daily topical applications (which have yet to begin - nerves!). I'm going to think about it this week and decide this Friday what way I want to go. I'd rather kill it the first time, you know?
All- i agree with PNJ and taking it slow. I was rushing to fast to get to 15 drops but now that i followed the advice and took the same level drops for a couple of days, it made it easier for me to get up to the next dose without nausea. So take it SLOW, it will benefit you in the long run. This is my second time doing MMS because i made myself really sick the first time.
PNJ- Thank you for your knowledge, the leg pain and the sore throat is subsiding THANK GOD! How much longer did you want to extend your therapy for? another week? Good luck, if you do it for a month i may extend mine for 3 weeks since im doing 15 drops 3 times a day.
AZ1- im glad that MMS is clearing out your eczema, my niece has it really bad and was thinking telling her to start it, but she is 11 and i dont know if she wants to deal with the taste and nasty side effects right now. Anyone has any thoughts on this? I have had H for 6 months and this is the worst 6 months of my life. But i feel that MMS is helping me get my life back.
i know this sounds gross but i can tell the difference between MMS poops and regular poops. MMS poops are yellow/greenish. I am sorry so say this but i was wondering if anyone else has had this too. If this is too gross please delete PNJ.
GODFORLIFE - I want to first see how I feel the end of this week. Saturday will be my final day on this therapy, but I don't want to quit if I'm not yet out of the woods. Because I all of my negative side effects have subsided, I may consider 3x daily. I haven't decided yet. The main thing is I will do almost anything to ensure I never get another outbreak, so with that in mind, I'm weighing my options carefully! I'd hate to stop my therapy and get another outbreak down the road, so believe me, it's not a decision I take lightly.
GODFORLIFE - I was laughing too hard to press delete, lol! It's like I was saying before, you can't get anymore personal than herpes! I did not notice a significant difference in colour, but rather a difference in texture and smell. Mine smelled more metallicy and "different-bad".
PNJ- yeah i hear you on that one. Maybe you should do it just to be on the safe side, besides what would it hurt just another week ya know. I think im going to do it for an additional week just to be safe too. I kinda have my daily routine going on with this stuff, like its part of my life now for temporary. I am going to do maintance dosages, it took me a while to get on this therapy and i want to ensure that i keep my body healthy.
As for the deleting part, i can envision your finger hovering over the delete key, next to the picture of the MMS bath, hahahahahaha.
Yeah mine does smell different too, thats how i know that MMS is working. Another plus about MMS is that i am maintaining my weight now, hopefully it stays off after i finish.
As for the pains in my legs, they happen everyday now. At times they stop but then they come back again. I must have a really bad strain of the virus, i dont know.
GODFORLIFE - I'm sure it's just your body cleaning the pipes so-to-speak. I had pains in my arms before, which eventually went away. Clots can hide in places also, so it could definitely be just things moving out of your system, but I know I used to get pains in my legs, back, and hips before an outbreak, so try to relax and focus on something else. Working out used to help me, and I'm getting back into my routines now to enjoy the new me.
I'm going to try 3x daily tomorrow to see how I feel. If it goes well, I'll do it for 2 weeks. This is just me being paranoid. I really don't know if I could stand geting an outbreak after being outbreak free for so long, you know?
And you're right, it's part of my routine now, so I'm used to it. A part of me is in disbelief, like is this right, have I really made it, lol. I too will be doing a maintenance dose once my therapy's complete. I will be retested next month, not sure on the date yet.
Yes, I admit it, I will delete anyone here submitting bath photos, lol!
Speaking of disbelief... Am I the only one who felt like I was dreaming today when Obama took oath? :-)
PNJ-No, you werent the only one in disbelief about Obama. I am soo happy that he is president and i believe that he is going to do good for this country. I am glad that i am alive to be apart of this. I am going to save the video of his speech for memorabilia.
As for the H, You should try to get tested like on monday, because that would mean that would give you results for twice a day, but on monday start 3 times a day and see how the testing goes for the twice a day. And if you are not happy with the results continue 3 times a day then retest. I don't know if you want to do this, but its just a thought.
I don't want you, me or anyone on MMS to get an outbreak ever again. If you feel that you want to do it for an additional 2 weeks, what could it hurt? You would be the healthiest person alive! LOL.
I laughed really hard at the bath photo joke, it was funny!
GODFORLIFE - I missed it live, as I wasn't sure what time he'd be doing it in such a huge block of time and overslept. I did have a chance to see it though, and would like to record it. Do you know if it's possible to record a video from YouTube? He was not my first choice, I preferred Hillary, but it doesn't change how proud I am of him and this moment. I and many others have high hopes from him, and I feel he will do all he can to deliver.
I had always planned to test around Mid-Feb, so this doesn't change. I detest needles, so I will test once, thank you very much, lol! Hopefully, the results will give me reason to sing from the mountain tops!
PNJ- there is a site called www.keepvid.com that lets you download videos from youtube.
i hear you with needles, i hate them, but when the doctor told me i might be anemic, he made me take a whole bunch of blood tests so i am used to it now. I pray that your results give you a reason to sing off of the mountain tops. I think you are going to be the first person to post the results of your test on MMS.
AZ- I've had this too for about 6 months and pray daily for it to go away. I'm thinking about starting this week. My nerves are high...I had a few issues while on resolve and as a result I did not get past the first step. I think you said it cleared your eczema and PNJ said it cleared her dandruff...I'm hoping it will clear this darn H, Dandruff and acne. Anyone with acne? Have you noticed it clearing while on MMS.
Hello all.
Grateful: I am going with the Treetop Apple juice, but there is are several available, the one I got is a "3 apple blend" and the ingredients are : apple juice. And it is not from concentrate (all that info others can find it if they see it).
PNJ: I DID look into that blood type diet and I am not sure there is much validity to it, I am A+ so I SHOULD be a vegitarian (according to 'them') but I do not do well with a vegetarian diet. I am a pretty beefy guy and all the REAL vegetarians I know are all skinny, (as in Boney assed not thin).
As far as my measuring system goes....when you get up to 15 drops, you gotta add like 75 drops of citric acid, and that bottle just was not meant for doing that, expecially when it gets half empty or half full or.......well, "when the bottle consists of: 5o% citric acid, 38% nitrogen, 11% oxegen, and 1% CO2 and other inert gasses" yeah, okay, you get the idea, its a pain in the arse to drop 75 drops twice a day, I just used a syringe, and as long as the ratio is 5;1 I am okay, but when I drop 15 drops out of a syringe, its about .7mls.
As far as all that talk goes about "everyone has hsv-1" I dont know about that. in theor, if 90% of us has it, and only 10% actually get cold sores. Supposedly, after a few years you stop getting them. so if you get them as a kid (which they say most people do) than you should be okay when you are older. But if you get it as an adult, IT JUST SUCKS. How the hell was I suppposed to know you can get KOODIES from kissing the wrong girl at the wrong time in a night club with crappy lighting. The only option is to stay home for a week, or put on make-up (which would ruin my impeccable record of heterosexuality).
Okay, gotta go and fix dinner....cant have MMS on an empty stomach.
"Yes, May I please have the mango salsa roasted duck, marinated in MMS, and a caesar salad, with the dressing on the side."
GODFORLIFE - Cheers for that! I reckon I will do the test once and only retest if I need to do the therapy again. I think getting poked once is bad enough... no pun intended, lol.
So I feel like such a baby right now because I went ahead and applied the MMS topically tonight before my shower and.... nothing! It stung a wee bit after about 1 minute (which is when you're supposed to wash it off), but it was nothing compared to the HELL I delt with when I tried Apple Cidar Vinegar, UGH! What I've noticed that's funny about MMS is that it's never as bad as it smells. Even when I drank it at the low doses, it just tasted like lemon water. It's funny the things that smell does to your mind. Anyway, I will be doing this daily for a week along with trying MMS 3x daily to give a final "whoopow" to mr. herpster.
S74U - I never got to read the whole book because I don't know what my blood type is. It's AB something I think, but I forgot and couldn't be bothered being stuck with another needle to find out. I tried the vegetarian diet and couldn't do it. I felt weak and completely out of it all the time, and that was when I was still including dairy. I can't imagine how I'd manage being a vegan! The diet that works really well for me is fish/chicken/eggs, veggies, and fruit, with occasional red meat. When I eat like this and avoid bread and sugar, I can almost feel the pounds melting off and my energy sky rockets... the problem is I don't always eat like this! I've been making veggie soup almost every night from scratch just to ensure I have something healthy to eat so I'm not tempted to just grab whatever's around.
See... turns out your parents were right about those "loose" women, lol. Your dinner sounded perfect until I read it again and saw MMS. I immediately smelled it. May I ask, whereabouts are you located? Just curious because you're having dinner at the same time as me (in SF, CA), and it's rather late in UK.
PNJ- Yes...LAX time is somthing like GMT minus 8 hrs.
DID you say that the pounds melted off when you ate "fish/chicken/eggs, veggies, and fruit, with occasional red meat" and avoided the "bread and sugar"?!?!?! WELCOME TO THE CAVE, BRO!!!!! Just throw in an avacodo or two and you should feel way better.
Yes, I remember when I was like 14, and this girl walked by and she had the NICEST......well you get the idea. and she was scantly dressed, and had the tramp stamp tattoo, and of course I could not help but STARE. and mom saw and said..."HEY, those are bad girls, you should stay away from them." and then she looked at my dad and said.."Talk to your son!!!!!" and he said to me..."Those are bad girls......but forget that last part your mom told you."
this is really nice information after reading this i have orderd MMS and waiting it to be delivered.i really aapriciate your work and this hub is the excellent among all the hub.thanx for such a nice post
S74U - So you are American? Yes, the pounds melt away when I eat like that, which is a lot closer to an Adkin's type diet. I did quite well on that diet also, which, contrary to popular believe, DOES include natural carbs. The "zero" carb portion is only for 2 weeks and simply tells you the rate of your metabolism. My metabolism was quite fast and I literally dropped nearly a pound a day. My problem is I adore bread and chocolate, and once I get started on those, I always say to hell with it and throw in a bag of crisps or some ice cream, lol.
Now you see... Just look at where your father's advice got you! I'm a female by the way, which makes me a "sis", right?
Good evening everyone sorry it took me sometime to get back to you all, Techie and everyone else thank you so much for the welcome's, Think im experiencing prodome again itching like hell down there> But usually thats as far as i have ever gotten other than once a burning sesation, so hopefully mms will help knock this out. im going to start MMS the moment it shows up still trying to figure out what to drink this with, so im open for advice??? if water is o.k i will use water. unless you all recommend something. Has anyone here gotten before and after test results with MMS
PS i dont know if you all want my bath photo's either, haha
BRITNEYDAVIDSON - Welcome! Just remember to take it slow and the smell is deceiving, so DON'T SMELL IT, lol.
FIRERAGE - I don't know anyone who's gotten tested after using MMS, so I cannot answer you. I will be getting tested after my therapy, so feel free to use me as a guinea pig. For the smaller dosages, water is fine. It will just taste like lemon water that smells a bit like a swimming pool. However, at the larger doses, you will probably need some juice to help you along. Apple or carrot juice works great, but you can use any juice with nothing added that does not contain Vitamin C, Citric Acid, Absorbic Acid, or Sodium Citrate (same as Citric Acid). I drink my dose with prune juice because I got tired of apple and could not find carrot in my area.
thanks for the advice i'll start off with water and get carrott juice. Finally all these years drinkn water from the pool will pay off ;-) had to add some humor there. Ya know i wont say how or why i know but to truth behind that everyday people have this horrible curse H are everyday people and the last person youd suspect is true. Trust me on that one
FIRERAGE - I'm inclined to agree with you. I reckon the real problem is that herpes presents itself in so many different ways that many don't know they have it. There is also a lack of education, as oral herpes is very common, yet many don't even know that a coldsore is herpes. I had to make a conscious effort to get to the place where I don't hold it against my ex for giving me genital herpes. Perhaps he didn't know, perhaps he knew and couldn't tell me... the possibilities are endless, but we all have to be responsible for our own actions, and I'm not sorry for decisions I've made to make me who I am today.
You're right, it is a lot like drinking a cup of swimming pool water, lol.
PNJ you are so funny, dont smell it and a final "whoopow" to mr. herpster. If i couldn't smell it i would be in heaven, lol. I still have the sore throat and my voice is going. Is this H related? I would agree with you and only getting tested once, i think that is a good idea. I pray for you and for all of us that are on this journey that the test comes back negative for you and for us.
Welcome britney to the Hub, we are all like family here so if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. Mamma PNJ knows all, hahahaha. Good luck with your MMS journey
Firerage- Yes MMS does taste alot like pool water, lol. So you should be used to the taste by the time you reach the higher doses, lol. I am also using prune juice as well, as i find that it covers the taste really well. Good luck with your MMS journey
GODFORLIFE - Quick question; how much juice are you mixing with activated MMS, and are you drinking plenty of water throughout the day? I ask the former because I want to see if you are not diluting your solution enough, and the latter because it's possible you are not flushing your system out enough. Remember all the virus and germs come out as waste, so keep your body well oiled and well hydrated, lol.
I mix about 1/3 of the cup with juice, and i do drink alot of water. In fact i drink nothing but water since being on MMS and the only juice i take is the prune juice. Is this ok? I need to know because im going to take my drops in a couple of mins
Im glad I found this forum, I hope it works. Ill keep everyone posted about my results.
GODFORLIFE - What sort of cup do you drink it out of, is it a glass, coffee mug, or tea cup? I drink mine out of a coffee mug and fill it to the top once I'm ready to add the juice. That's about the amount of fluid you want to add to stabilize the mixture. Try adding more juice.
S1 - Hiya. How long have you been on MMS so far?
The cup is about a coffee mug size. So you are saying that i should fill it up to the top or about half way. I can email you a pic of the cup so you can tell me how to fill it up.
GODFORLIFE - Your cup should be full. I don't know if this is your issue, but I can tell you that MMS will irriate tissue if it's not stabilized completely, so it could be either the cause of your sore throat or it could be irritating an existing issue.
not how to fill it up, but how much i should liquid i should use, lol
GODFORLIFE - That is what I'm referring to. I just measured how much fluid my mug holds and it holds under a cup and 1/2. Measure just over a cup of juice and drink it with that.
so this is probably the cause of my sore throat, do you think that this is the reason why i am still having my leg pain?
I don't know what's causing your leg pain. Just try diluting your mixture a bit more and see how you feel after that. What sort of leg pain is it anyway, is it the back of your legs, your knees, or someplace else?
Its usually the places that i get the predome at, and right now my butt is stiff and down there feels funny. But usually on my knee, thigh and the sides of my legs.
Ok, to me that just sounds like it's herpes related. See how it goes with a more diluted mixure. I'd say you should ensure you always drink it with at least 1 cup of juice or water. The instructions say you should add 1/3 to 1/2 glass of water and that's about the same amount. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a glass is much larger than a cup... Did I mention I HATE measuring? lol
You and me both I hate freaking measuring. I do remember it saying that, i thought 1/3 would be ok, but im doing it to half a glass just to get rid of this sore throat. Thanks for taking the time to help me!
No worries, I hope this helps! I know how you feel about the leg pains. Mine would start at my lower back and then ooze down to where my legs connect to my hips, then down to my knee joints. I also had to deal with a nose that dripped like a faucet. It was extremely uncomfortable, as there was literally nothing I could do for relief. I pray you don't suffer from this much longer.
Thank you PNJ for your support. Its funny that you mention the nose like a faucet because my nose is running right now. And before i took the drops i coughed up some mucous, so i think that MMS is forcing another issue out. Was this the pain that you started to feel on your first week of MMS?
No, I didn't have any pain my first week. I got a period induced outbreak, but MMS made it about pin-sized, and I had no other herpes related symptoms. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. But around NYE when I realised I had been compromising my dosages, that was when I got knee pain and caught a nasty cold. The problem was I had been compromising my dosages AND I skipped a dose that evening and drank like a fish. Still, I reckon it speaks volumes that even with that, all I got was a sharp pain in the knee and a cold.
Dang lucky you, i wish my pains will go away. I think within time my pains should subside, hopefully. It seems like every time i take MMS it brings the pains, so i know that MMS is working on it. All i can do right now is say my prayers and tell the good lord to give me the strength to deal with this pain. Before the pains werent so sharp, but now that i am up on the higher dose they are getting sharper. This really sucks, if it was only as easy to get rid of it as i was so easy to get it ya know.
I understand. Have you tried working out? For some reason, working out used to help with some of my MMS side effects. Not sure why, but it may be worth a shot for you. I bought a mini-twist-stepper for myself around Christmas and it's been a Godsend. I don't have an excuse in the world that would justify not exercising when the machine is in my bedroom, lol!
I used to exercise alot before i had the H, but now i bum it around on my laptop 24-7 trying to find ways to cure myself, or find people that have cured themselves and try that. I am not worried about losing weight anymore, because according to my family and friends i look anorexic and they think that i don't eat, but the thing is that i do eat but MMS pretty much takes care of the stuff that i eat, lol. I have to take a look into getting a stepper, i need to keep my mind occupied!
OMG, I was exactly like that! I pretty much gained weight because if I wasn't bombarding myself with work at my old job, I was at home obsessing over herpes. I tried almost everything I could find. The time I didn't spend looking for miracles or reading about stories, I spent in bed crying because I felt I'd never have a shot at a normal life again. I have to tell you something. The only thing that pulled me out of that was helping others. This is why I created this HUB, and this is why when I found out about MMS, I was quite aggressive about getting the word out. The only thing that helped me was being the person I wish I could've spoken to during my "dark days" and working out. If you can't help in the sense of talking about herpes, try helping others in some other way. It really will remind you of what's important and pull you out of the hole, you know? And working out is so important for your mind. It burns off all those nasty toxins the stress releases into your body. I don't know what sort of music you're into, but I can give this machine a run for it's money on some Oakenfold!
My stepper was under $100 and works great. I'll remind myself to send you a link to the one I have.
Yes, please send me the link to the stepper i would like that. I have spent soo much time crying that i had a very bad anxiety attack and the doctor told me that i have to see a couselor, which i did and it has helped alot. I cried almost everyday when i found out. When i was first diagnosed i came across MMS, but then i blew it off. Then I started to do coconut oil and it help, but it would take FOREVER to do it. So then i went on some forums and found people talking about MMS and how the have had success with it. So i emailed one of the guys and he told me not to give up on MMS because the end result is worth it. He was helping me out with all my questions, but he left the states and i could no longer talk to him. So i felt very alone taking this stuff. Then i found this hub and found that someone else is doing what i am doing. SO now i don't feel alone anymore taking it. And i am glad that you are helping others out, because this hub has helped me out alot! Ya'll are like my family here. Now i have found from other forums that people are having success with MMS and the success you are having brings me hope. Like i always say things happen for a reason. Im still trying to figure out the reason why i have H, but maybe it is to help others i don't know.
wow what a difference a day makes. I had to print the posts cuz i couldnt sit at work and read them on the computer and it was 13pages of typed material hehe.
ok- so for my update- I was kinda bad yesterday in my diet. I got tired of pure alkaline so i had chinese chicken and broc for lunch (with fried rice) and for dinner I bought the kids popeyes chicken and I had a piece of the breast along with a biscuit. so I was scared to test my pH today but turned out to be ok. it was 7.5 which is where its typically at. I am back to alkaline today. For my MMS I am up to 5drops and no side effects but from here on out i will increase the drops per day.
the mind over matter thing is so true. when i was first mixing my doses i had a gallon of chlorex bleach sitting on my counter. so everytime i would get a wift of the MMS mixing- i would also see the bleech and of course that really made a mental image of drinking bleach in my mind. so I of course moved the bleach
g4l- i think you also may need to add more juice to your mix. my first dose i didnt have enough juice and my throat was tinged so i chased with a little more after. since then ive added more than enough juice and it seems to be ok. hows the pain?
AZ1- so glad to hear about the eczema clearing up. are you blogging?
grateful did you try the smaller in between dose? if so how did that work out? do you plan to test soon?
pnj- you old fart drinking prune juice. (you too G4L) haha. When do you plan to start you 3x a day? are you gonna jump right to 15drops 3x a time or are you going to take it slower and see how your body handles the third dose? pnj were you the one having an issue with a wart? so pnj you can take mms on an empty stomach now or slightly empty stomach?
S1 welcome. we are a support team here.
s74U- how are you doing? your posts had me cracking up.
brittney which site did you order your mms from? do you have any questions for any of us about taking it? have you done your plan yet? (MMS PLAN)
with all the bacon and bath talks about here- never a dull moment.
just throwing a question out- is 4 cups of herbal tea too much? i found this herbal tea thats REALLY GOOD and ive started to glut on it drinking 3-4cups a day. jsut wondering if anyone noticed an issue with that?
techiegirl- you are so right about there never being a dull moment in this hub. Im happy for you that you are on 5 drops now, that is great 10 more to go. Let me know if you are going to do three times a day or twice a day?
My leg pains are going away, but now i am getting stiffness, this damn virus is holding on for dear life... I just want to it DIE!!!!
As for the prune juice, i just think of it this way its going to help me loose more weight, hahaha. I am added more juice from now on, this sore throat sucks.
Its funny that you mention bleach, i dont think that i can ever clean with bleach again, too many memories associated with it. I went to my aunts house yesterday and she just cleaned with bleach i was about pass out, lol.
GODFORLIFE - I understand. I was too embarrassed to speak to anyone about it, but I know I could've used a shoulder on more than one occasion... we all could've, and that's why we're here. We ARE family hon. :-)
Here is the link to the stepper I bought. It's very sturdy, doesn't take up a lot of space, and it's only around $80. I thought I'd post it here in case anyone else is looking for something like this. I'm also considering a mini-cycle for days when I want to switch it up a bit, but I'm still doing my homework on which one is the best option.
TECHIE - Oh whatever! You know what, at least I'm regular, lol. Yes, I'm at the stage now where I do not have to eat much before taking MMS. I still eat a piece of fruit or some soup, however, as I simply don't like the idea of taking anything on a completely empty tummy. The wart was part of the reason I want to continue a wee bit longer and use it topically, but the main reason is that the idea of having an outbreak after being outbreak free for so long is terrifying. I will be taking MMS 3x daily beginning today. I would not have started out taking it this way, but I figure since my body is so used to it now, I may as well open up the can of whoop arse on the herpster while I can, you know? I reckon it's a fair assessment that I'm pretty healthy right now, as I literally have no side effects and feel great. I'm still farting, but I guess that's just a part of life, ha! No seriously, I reckon it's because MMS oxygenates the body, so it's just air bubbles, hehe.
pnj- i too have been a bit gassy glad to know its just the mms. will your added dose be 15drops or will you start small?
TECHIE - I will be doing 15 drops 3x daily as is recommended for this level of treatment. I should know by the end of today if I need to go smaller, but my instinct tells me it should be fine. All it really does is keep more MMS in your system for a longer period of time, and I agree with AZ1, no virus can survive that level. I actually do feel perfectly healthy now, so I do want to stress that this is really my paranoia making me do this. I'd rather be safe than sorry. The other thing is, at this stage, more aggressive therapy is not a problem because MMS is already integrated into my routine. It may be harder to do this down the road if I ever needed to so I'd rather tackle it now, necessary or not.
PNJ- now that i am up on the higher doses i do fart alot now. I was burping alot, but now im farting darn it. Thanks for the link for the stepper once i get back to work im going to get it. How long are you going to do the 3 times a day for? I should submit you to the Guinness book of world record for being the healthiest person alive, hahaha. I was thinking about photoshopping a picture of a bottle of MMS in a bath tub, and use it as my icon, hahahaha. Im glad that i have an internet family now, yall are great!
GODFORLIFE - You just can't help it can you, you've just got to be the dirty girl with the bathtub photo, haha! I should photoshop MMS being dropped on some bacon, LOL!!!
I'm going to do the 3x daily for 2 weeks. I figure I've been on MMS at the higher dose long enough to where that should be enough.
PNJ- OMG i am still cracking up with your jokes. I am seriously going to do it now, once i get back home im going to work on it. I have to keep my reputation as a dirty girl, lol. If Jim Humble knew what we were doing with his bottles of MMS, he would freak, lol. You are a brave soul, you will be on 15 drops for a month! I want to do that, but its still kinda hard for me to take the drops, i have to mentally tell myself that i get no outbreaks with this stuff. Damn brains....hahaha
Farting!!! OMG!!! It's unbelievable!!! I'm up to 5 drops too Techie, PNJ and Godforlife..... the gas is rife! LOL. What will it be like at 15 drops I wonder? Argh! The hubby and kids think it's hilarious. Hubby is doing MMS with me, although he has no herpes symptoms, but we figure it's the smart thing to do. He's up to 6 drops already and nothing! He's had no side affects whatsoever. ARghhh, I keep telling him.. wait til you get to 7 or 8 drops!
PNJ - Good on you for choosing to do 3 x daily. I'm going to! I've decided that this sucker is having no chance at all of staying in my body. In fact, I can feel MMS doin its work on it already.
Keep up the good work peoples! God I love this hub!
GODFORLIFE - It smells worse than it is, trust me. I can barely tell I'm taking anything at all at this point. We all knew you'd be the loose one in the family, lol!
AZ1 - It was actually your post that changed my mind. I figure if this is the dosage that really will bring me some peace of mind, I want to try it. So far, I feel fine after my second dose today. We'll see how it goes this evening.
AZ1 im glad that you have your husband doing it with you, that must be nice having someone follow you with it, I wish i have some next to me doing it, but having yall is just as good.
PNJ- How did you know about me? Im not loose just freaky, lol! But hey i have always been the black sheep of the family anyways, lol.
Well for an update the pain is almost gone, but the burning is coming back. So i think i dont know what to think. I think MMS is fighting it off! What do ya'll think
On the brighter side of things i stepped on the scale and i am down to 110!!! YAY!!! Total weight lost being on MMS is 15 pounds.
pnj- When you are applying it topically how many drops are you using? are you diluting it? I want to start doing it topically.
PNJ- we miss you in chat chica- hope you plan to return. well i found out some more interesting stuff today.
resolve step3 treatments end at 16drops but they have you double your doses. day1 2drops day2 4drops etc. so its not 21straight days at 16drops. i also did the math and if resolve is lets say only 50%effective as MMS then that means resolvers are getting 8drops at max. or going with vancouver_night if its 70percent as effective then thats still only 11drops. i may get the balls to post on the other hub- as i am tired of hearing people not being successful. I dont wanna tell anyone to up their resolve doses but maybe it will give so many peace of mind.
also Nancy is currently taking resolve and when shes done- shes switching to MMS for her 90day wait period. she was kinda curious about what dose should she start at when she does MMS? since shes coming from Resolve do you think she should start with 1drop of MMS or should she be able to tolerate more? just asking for your opinion on that one. I was thinking 5-7 to start with and work her way up to 15 but you are the true expert.
GODFORLIFE - I am using 10 drops Citric Acid with 2 drops MMS and allowing it to sit for 3 mins. The instructions say to use it straight and do not dilute for the skin. This will be my second night of using it, and I plan to use it a week total.
TECHIE - I miss chat also. I'll try to be on tonight or tomorrow. I've been trying to get a few things sorted here and it's taken time away from my usual chat time. I would HIGHLY recommend you refrain from suggesting uses for Resolve. The problem with that is neither one of us is very familiar with the product and Resolve does not convey all of their ingredients. Telling someone to up their dosage of Resolve could be dangerous, as you do not know what other ingredients would be increased in the process.
I tried to tell people when I first began posting there that they were better off going with the real deal, but I got so sick of the bickering and catty behaviour. They treat that HUB as though it's their property and scoff at anyone that says anything against Resolve, nevermind it's not curing most of the individuals on it. This is why many newbies don't post there, it's not a comfortable atmosphere and the "moderator" is a joke.
You can suggest they try MMS all you like, but I warn you, you're signing up for trouble and a lot of them will just assume you're working for MMS now. It's pathetic. Sometimes I wonder if MMS would charge $400 and scam individuals, somehow they might get taken more seriously in this twisted world.
Everyone beginning MMS should start with 1 or 2 drops and increase daily. This is what Jim Humble says, and it worked great for me. It may sound slow, but it's the and best way to build your tolerance so you can take the higher dosages.
TECHIE - Apologies if I came off a bit dry before, but that other HUB really irritates me, lol.
PNJ- how are you applying it down there with a Q-tip? And are you washing it off in the shower?
Yes, Q-tip just before I'm ready to shower. Be sure to wash off after 30 secs. to 1 minute.
PNJ-Do you use all of the liquid?
GODFORLIFE - You should use what you need, and don't go crazy. I didn't leave mine on long, but I could tell it would burn if I left it on.
Pnj- i have been on a mission to find celebrities that have H to see if they will donate to the University of Florida's research. Im hoping that i will get some good responses and hopefully some money towards the research!!! Wish me luck!
Great Work.
Hey everyone! I haven't posted in awhile since I was traveling.... I receieved my MMS package this morning! YAY and I did my first dose about 20 minutes ago. I hope I mixed the crystal solution right... The 1 tablespoon of crystals + 9 tablespoons of water didn't full up the bottle... so I put one more table spoon of crystals and the rest water. Do you think its too much crystals? :S I don't want to mess this process up
PNJ- i think you misunderstood me earlier I will not tell any resolve users to up thier doses-but was thinking maybe some would quit screaming "scam" and "it doesnt work" if they understood that the doses needs to be stronger. but anyhow ive decided not to go over there messing with them folks :) so its a moot point.
ok so I didnt use the crystals that came with my MMS- I assumed it was packing material. I instead use lemon juice as my activator. plz tell me thats ok?
this is day4 and im at 6drops- may stay here tomorrow as well. i went to bed without eating dinner last night- well actually i ate at like 530 i took my mms with an apple last night around 1030pm. this moring i woke up very hungry and felt weak from hunger pangs. i ate my apple and took my 6drops. no real side effects but i could tell it was doing something as i didnt feel "normal"- but I didnt get nausea or any of the other symptoms that most get. I just felt a hunger pang. my challenge now is trying to balance a low acidic diet but still eat filling enough to take mms. I may have to do toast in the mornings.
az1 how you doing? did you do your blog yet?
godforlife hows that pain today?
oh i almost forgot- when i mix my mms with juice the last sip of juice is of course the most powerful. i usually end up pouring a lil more juice in the glass to make sure i get it all. would it be ok if i stirred with a stirrer or spoon after mixing the mmx with my juice?
Still taking the MMS...trying to get up to 3x/day...it is a struggle for me. I feel sick to my stomach most of the day. I have found that I need to eat more because everything goes out the other end...cleaning out my body. Didn't want to get too graphic here. I still feel the "acid" -like feeling in my stomach...I do eat apples, sometimes it works. Yesterday I skipped a dose...just couldn't do...my body told me to take a break. Today back to taking MMS again. Just letting everyone know my update. I will be extremely happy to be done with MMS...still have a few more weeks...hope I can make it!!!
So i emailed Jim Humble about this statement and this is what he responded back.
To achieve elimination of Herpes, internal use of MMS will have to be sustained at a 10 drop or greater dosage twice daily for perhaps a month. But if supplemented with external MMS applications, that strength could be reduced slightly. A virus like Herpes will appear to get WORSE before it gets better because the MMS will trigger the virus to emerge from all it's hiding places. Temporarily an entire chin and nose may break out because MMS makes it reveal itself, soon to be destroyed permanently. When not visible, Herpes reaches a "compromise" with the immune system, but stays in place in the flesh quietly except for periodic manifestations. IT IS CLAIMED THAT MMS CAN COMPLETELY remove Herpes from your body if a prolonged MMS offensive is maintained , both blood stream and external applications.
My opinion is that the person who wrote that data is correct. However I cannot answer any more questions. The answers are in my book or on Web site mmsAnswers.com . I can go to jail for my life. Sorry, i just can't answer. Jim Humble
I am going to do MMS 15 drops 3 times for a month and start applying it topically. PNJ is already on the right track.
Techie: the pain is traveling to my butt now...ugh. Thanks for asking.
PNJ- i am hitting a low point today, but i just keep thinking about ya'll doing this with me.
G4L im gonna copy that to my hub is that ok?
Techie, of course you can. I wonder what happened to Jim and why he said that.
JAWADUK - Cheers, and welcome!
MINNIE - No that is not correct. You should mix the ingredients as per the instructions or your mixture will not reach the correct balance. The bottle does not need to be filled, as long as you still have crystals, you can make more as you need it, but the mixture goes a long way. If you want to add more, you should add more per the instructions.
TECHIE - You would be telling them what I've already told everyone and they didn't care. I explained to them before that this is why Resolve is not 100% effective, as it does not contain a high enough dosage of Chlorine Dioxide, and guess what? I was accused of working for MMS, a huge debate began, and many wasted their money and tried Resolve anyway. I'm glad that some chose to come here, and I'm finding ways to reach people in other ways so the information is there for anyone who DOES want to hear it. PS. You might want to make your meals a bit more substantial at the higher dosages. The cramps you can experience as a result of not eating enough can be quite painful. I don't have this problem now, but I remember the first time I experienced cramps, I literally had to lie down all afternoon.
GRATEFUL - It sounds like you're being far too aggressive. MMS cannot help you if you're body is busy fighting off all these side effects and taking out the trash. You are basically making trash faster than your body can put it out and that's going to make you feel horrible and give herpes the upper hand. You need to slow it down a bit. Try a lower dose for about a week. I would caution you to not stop your therapy, as you are setting yourself back!
REMEMBER - An effective dose of MMS is a dose where you are NOT experiencing severe diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, and feeling "too crappy to go on". If you are experiencing these symptoms, listen to your body, it's telling you to slow down so it can have time to adjust and put the fires out so-to-speak. Do not stop!
GODFORLIFE - Thank you for posting that. I have been wanting to email Jim, but I didn't know where to begin so I'm still sort of thinking about what I want to say. I'm incredibly grateful for his discovery! I'm glad my paranoia served a purpose, lol.
ALL - So I used MMS 3x daily yesterday for the first time and experienced no negative side effects. I did feel quite tired though, but that is common when getting used to higher dosages. I also had a busy day yesterday, so that could've been the real culprit. I've also been applying MMS topically to the usual problem zones down below. It stings a bit, but after about 1 minute, I simply hop in the tub and rinse it off before taking my shower.
Hey techie, can you also put this in your forum. I am trying to help raise money for the University of Florida, they have found the way to permanently disable the virus, but they are currently lacking funding. Even if someone where to donate a dollar it would help. Here are the links
Please feel free to look at the forum: http://www.herpes-coldsores.com/messageforum/showt
Here is the place to donate:
G4L- you know the government has been after Jim Humble for his claims. He can no longer "officially" say that MMS will cure anything. Its sad but true- the FDA owns the legal right to use the word cure. if anything is labeled as a cure it has to go through FDA approval. So I take that to mean that Jim was stating in CODE that yes the claims are true- but he doesnt want to be jailed for making them claims.
There have been a lot of MMS sellers shut down- but now the ones who do sell it- have to market it as Water Purification drops else they face trouble too. its very sad but thats how it is. If you look at a lot of the stuff on the market that claims to cure- Resolve_ Ozone therapy etc and countless others you will see that MOST are not even US based- as they would face a lot of issues.
PNJ youre right- I will be eating food and more of it as I approach more drops. i feel you 100% on posting on the other hub. While I do feel that some may be interesting in knowing the truth- its a lot who will attack. so ill just leave it be.
TECHIE - I forgot to answer your questions. Yes it is ok to stir the solution, just do it very gently (one or two swirls) and not like you're making punch, lol. And yes, you can use lemon juice as an activator. The Citric Acid crystals make a an optimum solution, but lemon juice appears to work just as well per what I've read. Did you throw away your cystals?
Pnj28: you are probably right...I could be too agrressive. So I am going to try a different approach. Since the 15 drops/2x were bothering me, I am going to do less drops 3x/day to get my body use to the MMS...slowly build this over time. The advice you gave everyone is so true....start slow....and eat food!!! Thanks for the comments! Excellent you have worked up to 15 drops/3x/day...I am jealous!
godforlife: thanks for the posting on MMS....you can download his book, both parts for free at mmssuppliers.com. I myself have been going through a low time in my life, this happens with H. I'm sending you positive upliting vibes...say to yourself you are great!
Techiegurl: good to hear you are doing well!
Techie- This just sucks that this is happening to Jim, he has done nothing wrong. But as long as the pharmaceutical companies are in business they are going to run the US. Thats why for the university of florida we are trying to raise the money ourselves because no major pharmaceutical company will fund them. It just sucks because they have the cure ready for human trials, but they don't have they money.
Pnj- I hope he will be able to email him again. I just had mcdonalds and its making my stomach all icky
grateful, thank you for the positive vibes i need them right now!
Godforlife...
Thanks for posting about the research. I think this sounds WONDERFUL and I'm behind 1000%. I've already donated and plan on continuing. Anyone should donate...even if its just a few $$. I was thinking today how it would be great if we could have a telethon about H. It will probably never happen...but here's to wishful thinking.
Techie...
Thanks for all your posts about MMS. How long do you think you will try it? Do you have a test date in mind? :)
ALL - So I just had a looksie at Jim's site in regards to topical application of MMS, and it's totally different than what someone (I can't recall who) posted here. I'll post it below. The way he describes how to do it seems to make a lot more sense, as you can get it to more areas with less stinging, plus you leave it on. I don't know why there is so much variation on the uses of MMS floating out there (which he also mentions), but I suspect it is because there are many who still wish to use and "prescribe" MMS like a drug and that is not the correct approach. Taking MMS is not like taking antibiotics.
5. Topical Treatment (on the skin)
There are many problems of the skin usually causing sores or rashes. They could be poison oak or even cancer. Most should have MMS applied directly to them. The best way to do this is by spraying. The way I do this all the time is to use a 2 ounce spray bottle that makes a fine mist. I take an empty 2 ounce spray bottle and add 20 drops of MMS and 100 drops of 10% citric acid solution (you could use lemon juice filtered through a coffee filter). I wait the customary 3 minutes and then fill the bottle with water. (Could be distilled water, but then any clean water would do). This bottle of MMS will stay activated for about 3 days. That’s because of the extra strong mixture.
I then use this to spray any sore, wound, or skin eruption that might occur. Outside the body requires a much strong solution. You can spray a sore up to once an hour. Allow the solution to dry on the body. It is the strongest and does the most good just before it dries. Also spray this on athletes feet and fungus on the feet. After it is dry the area can be rinsed off if you like. It’s not necessary. If the spray cause pain of burning then reduce the strength of the solution by pouring out 1/2 and filling with clean water. Keep reducing the strength in this manner until the spray does not cause burning, however, if this does not seem to work in a rare few cases it might be a fungus that MMS cannot touch. In that case, go the the home page and look under fungus protocol.
As I mentioned wounds should be sprayed as soon after they happen as possible. It will decrease the healing time by a great deal in most cases as microorganisms are mostly the cause of slow healing.
hey faithrn-
well I think I will be at 15drops by the first of february. so I will spend the month of february doing 15drops and will test (AGAIN) in March.
g4l- thats how it is. its big money business.
OK I'll redo it right now since its about time to take my second dose.Also I'm confused .. I noticed some people are upping the doasge each time or is it per day?for example today I started to I do one drop in the morning and one at night.. then tomorrow is day 2 so I will go to 2 drops in the morning and 2 at night... is this correct?
just checking in and saying hi, haivng predome sysmptoms again slight burning but thats as far as it usually gets no bliters etc, wonder if the viral load is light or strong immune system (any ideas) anyways mms still hasnt arrived but looking forward to it. Anyone here get tested yet to see where the levels are after some mms
Godforlife - It is sad and very wrong how big pharma literally run this world and determine how long we live and what sort of quality of life we should have. It's so wrong! I think Jim Humble has discovered something very powerful, and given the nature of pharma and how they operate, without doubt they are going to try and quiet Jim, and rubbish MMS.
From what I have read about MMS, I truly believe that this solution is THE answer to most disease. Not because Jim Humble says so, but because it just is, based on how it works. At the end of the day, as PNJ and others have said, MMS doesn't (nor any drugs or medicines), actually cure our bodies. It's our immune system that cures all. If you look at the world we live in and how we pollute the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat and the way we live.... our poor immune systems just can't handle everything! But you know what, it still does! All it needs is a little boost and some help, and it can do its job nicely. I do believe that there's a cure for every single ailment out there. And quite possibly, MMS could be the one. Everyone is different, and every immune system is different, so all medicines work differently. The same would apply to MMS. Some may only need to take it for 3 weeks, and H could be gone, whereas others may need to take it longer. It just depends on how efficiently one's immune system is operating.
Techie - I'm doing great! Upping my dose to 6 drops this morning. I laughed at my hubby last night as he upped his dose to 6 drops yesterday (after I told him not to rush it), and he's a landscaper. As soon as he got to work, he said he sweated profusely for about 10 mins, and felt sick for the same amount of time. lol. He did 6 drops again last night and was fine, so he's staying on 6 drops again today. Impatient bugger! And we all know why! LOL
PNJ - Wow! You did 15 dropx for a 3rd time yesterday? You didn't do the third dose gradually? The reason I ask, is that I'm wondering if I should start doing 3 x daily now, and slowly increase drops each day. You go girl!
Oh, and by the way! Did anyone get constipation on MMS? lol
MINNIE - Yes, that is the correct way to up your drops, per day not per dose.
FIRERAGE101 - To my knowledge, no one here or in the other HUBS have gotten tested after using MMS. I believe I may be the first, but a few others will follow shortly after.
PNJ- Holy cow we have to spray this on and not wash it off, i hope it doesn't burn at all. Are you going to do this tomorrow? I have to go to the store and get a spray bottle. You are like our ginuea pig, you get to try it out and then tell us how it goes. We love you for this. I was thinking about getting DMSO cream and mixing it with MMS and putting it on the base of my spine. What do you think? Im glad that you are moving up to 3 times a day ok!
Here is what i got on the website about DMSO and MMS, its for life threating dieases though:
The second technique we call “MMS by Skin,” since one is using DMSO to cause the MMS to enter the body through the skin. Kehr calls it something else, but since I am using it differntly I’ll give it another name. In this technique all doses are 10 drops of MMS, 50 drops of 10% citric acid solution, or lemon juice, wait 3 minutes, and then add one teaspoon of DMSO. One stirs the DMSO in carefully and then begins to use the solution right away by rubbing the entire amount into one arm or leg or belly or even his back if someone is helping him. On the first day one uses this technique once every two hours all day long. So one uses a 10 drop dose every 2 hours rubbing it first into one arm, then two hours later the other arm and then two hours later one of the legs is used, then of course the other, finally the stomach and then back to one of the arms.
One the second day, instead of every two hours one does it every hour all day long for up to 12 hours. The the same thing is done on the 3rd day. One then discontinues, rests for 4 days and then does it again the next week. Do it once a week until well. So one is doing the MMS by mouth as given above and the MMS by skin as given here both at the same time.
This technique is OK for pregnant women, or children, but remember, children are much more delicate. In the case of children or women add one drop of water for each drop of DMSO. When beginning to use the solution one very gently rubs a small amount onto the child in an area about the size of a quarter to see if their will be an adverse reaction or if the DMSO will burn the skin. With children use one drop of MMS for each 20 pounds of body weight. Use 8 drops of DMSO for each drop of MMS. Measure it all out before you add the citric acid solution, but do not add it until the citric is mixed in and one waits three minutes.
Those few people who notice that their skin seems to burn from the MMS and DMSO can used something like 50-50 mixture of Aleo Vera gell and olive oil. If the skin does burn, the next time add one teaspoon of water with the one teaspoon of DMSO.
Remember, use both methods given above at the same time.
THE CITRIC ACID SOLUTION IS ALWAYS A 10% SOLUTION. IT IS EASY TO MAKE. JUST USE 9 TABLE SPOONS OF WATER TO ONE TABLE SPOON FULL OF CITRIC ACID CRYSTALS.
Jawaduck-welcome to the hub
Techie, damn big business. At least we have Jim Humble to thank for MMS, hopefully he will be left alone from now on.
My freaking legs pains are on and off now, so because of this i want to try the DMSO cream on them and on my butt to see if it helps out.
FaithRN- That would be nice to have a tele-thon. Have you started MMS yet? If haven't remember to start of SLOW!! It will be to your benefit.
Minnie- good luck to you
Firerage101-I hope that you don't get an outbreak, im praying for you
AZ1 - I always appreciate your posts, as they really bring it home. And that's the key, it's our immune system doing the real work, which is why we have to be so patient when taking MMS and take our time. Because without the help of your body and immune system, MMS is not going to do anything but make you feel like shite.
Yes I took the plunge, but my reason behind it was that I was already taking such a high dose with no side effects. I would not have tried this if I was still only able to handle a smaller dose. I reckon you should wait until you reach 15 drops before doing it 3x daily, personally. At the end of the day, it won't make a difference, and you could avoid feeling ill, you know? Having said that, there are many who do fine starting out at 3x daily.
Ok, so yesterday was quite funny, and related to your question about constipation. I took my second dose yesterday afternoon and thought I would be fine to not go to the loo before leaving the house since I wouldn't be out long. Well I did a lot of walking and running errands, and the farting was just out of hand... I'm glad I was on a loud street, lol! Anyway, after a while when it was time to get the train home, I noticed there was something happening, so I was forced to run into the ladies room at Macy's. So to answer your question, no MMS does not make me constipated, it's actually sped up my metabolism to the point where I actually "go" sometimes twice a day, which is actually good for your system.
I should mention, today the farting seems to have subsided... hope I didn't speak too soon!
PNJ - How funny! I cracked up when I read your post! You know, this constipation isn't actually constipation.. it just feels like it! I'm stilll regular, but I'm finding that I'm getting what feels like binding cramps. Maybe that's MMS doing its stuff! Thing is, when I need to go... I really need to go then and there! As for farting, my God!!! Mine started at 4 drops, and it's getting worse! lol. The kids are calling me fart arse Jill! (My name's not really Jill, and no offense to anyone who owns this name lol). The wind is especially bad in the mornings and afternoons.. argh! Thank God I'm not in a new relationship... he he.
You know, I just did my 6 drops, and you wouldn't believe it... the solution was activating, so I go to the fridge to get the juice, and guess what? NO juice!!! Argh!! Had to drink it with water, and just like you said PNJ, it tastes like lemon water. I still held my breath and nose though. Didn't want to smell it. But, when I'd finished, and started breathing again, I could smell chlorine... so I quickly had some milk to remove the smell. Worked a treat too! So, 6 drops already. Let's see how I go today! I've got a gym appt in an hour, so will be interesting to see how I go. Hmmmm
Godforlife...
I haven't started MMS yet. I'm on BHT right now and have been for about 8 weeks or so..I've only been infected about 10-11 weeks. I'm thinking about starting RESOLVE since another hubber has an extra kit for sale. I might as well save some $$ if it turns out to be a scam. Resolve told me my neg test would come up sooner since I'm so recently infected. A few people have tested neg with Resolve and supposedly they are working closely with those who haven't.
If I do the Resolve, I'm going to partner it with acyclovir to kill any free floating virus that gets flushed out. I was also thinking about doing MMS for a couple weeks after I finish Resolve just to be extra sure. We shall see!! I will keep everyone posted.
GODFORLIFE - I have heard of DMSO, but decided not to try it as I'm already getting great results using MMS.
AZ1 - Yes, those cramps and noises is MMS working it's way through. I remember when I first started getting those, you could've heard my tummy from another room... now you can hear my farting, lol. Today's much better though. It appears I spoke too soon and still have mild gas, but it's getting more tolerable. I agree with you, it is a gift from God that I am not in a new relationship right now. On the other hand, you are so lucky to have someone there to love and go through this with you. I kept wondering why I don't have that, and it dawned on me that if I had that, I may not have reached out the way I did and created this HUB. I guess it's true that everything really does happen for a reason.
PNJ- i swear that this virus plaques me... it doesnt want to die...ugh! From the punching down there, to the pain in the legs, then it went to the pain in my butt, now the pain is going to my genital area. I can feel it move around, this is the weirdest/painful thing i have ever felt. Is anyone else getting these same pains/ weird feelings that i am getting. PNJ- i don't know what to do, all this is so surreal to me. I can't believe that i have this virus, and now that i am trying to kill it, its causing me more pain and misery then it was active. This is going to be a looong month for me. I am so scared when school starts, this is going to be my first semester with the H. I am usually stressed during school, and now i just pray to god that he will give me the strength to survive this month without an outbreak and to rid my body of this virus permanently.
godforlife - The fact that you are taking 14 to 15 drops twice daily, and you're having this extra long padrome, means the MMS is working on H! It sounds like the virus is being flushed out of its hidey holes in your body, and it's now up to your immune system to flush it out. Keep going with the MMS! Don't back down now as I feel that you are so close! How long have you had H for? If only for a short time, you're even luckier, because it'll be easier to flush out! As Jim Humble says in his book, H can get more painful than ever when using MMS, and it's all part of the flushing out and healing. You're doing so well! I've HSV1 orally, since childhood (I'm currently 39), and I transferred it to the genital area about 18 months ago. Don't ask me how!! lol. I'm wondering how my body will go flushing it out, as I've got the one virus in my system, but in two different areas, and for different lengths of time. Arghh! Which strain do you have godforlife? 1, 2 or both? Regardless, keep it going and stay positive!
PNJ - This hub is an amazing thing, and without it and you, I would never have discovered MMS. It's amazing what H does to a person, both spiritually and emotionally. It completely ruined me once I found out I'd transferred it genitally. I went into a spiralling depression that's lasted 12 months, and it made me feel like a leper. I still have that feeling at times, especially during an OB, but I won't let it beat me!
With the partnership thing, the sad things is, my marriage is actually falling apart and has been for some time now. My husband hasn't shown any signs of H, but he's still doing it with me as a precaution. It is more than likely that we will separate in the not too distant future, and in fact, we are trying to work through the details now, so things aren't so good on that front. I don't even want to think about being with anyone else, however having said that, I don't want to enter a new life feeling like a contagious leper either!
Enough of the negative stuff! lol. Can't wait to do 7 drops tomorrow. Is that when you started getting symptoms PNJ?
AZ1- Thank you for your words, i really do appreciate it right now. Having this has been really hard for me. I have had it since September 08 and it has made my life miserable. I have HSV 1 genitally. I am sorry that you have it in two places, i always have the fear that i will get it orally since i bite my nails alot.
I wish you luck with your marriage. I am sorry that you have to go through this. I hear you with the new life with a contagious virus. I am so afraid to talk to guys, but i know once the good Lord is ready to give me a guy then i will be ready. I just keep my faith in him and i know he will do what is best for me. I will say a prayer that you and your husband will work things out.
GODFORLIFE - I'm so sorry you're suffering, but have every faith that if you press on, you will gain the upper hand on mr. herpster! Where's that fighting spirit?
AZ1 - My goodness... I'm sorry I didn't know. Keep a positive mind and heart, and we'll all pray that everything works out for you. I know you will be fine, I just know it, and what doesn't kill us simply makes us stronger. We all have a lot more power than we realise!
Yes, I began to experience side effects at 7 drops... and they were NOT cute!
godforlife
Thanks for the prayers ive never experienced an outbreak with blisters other than a possbile one blister (cant tell if it was a blister or ingrown) i have had this for approx 4 months now with approx one outbreak a month i tried to talk to the girl i got it from she was in denyal and insist that the pap smear was normal i tried to explain she didnt listen. Anyways i feel my immune system has done a good job keeping it at bay cant wait untill mms shows up hopefuly tommorow i got lemon juice to activate and bought two bottles worrth.
firerage-Hopefully you will have an easy time getting rid of the virus. For me its been since sept 2008, and now that i am on the higher doses weird things are happening now. You should really use the citric acid with it. that what i am using
Hi! I'm planning to mix my MMS today and do a trial dose later this afternoon. Would you all say that 4 oz. of apple juice is sufficient? I'm using simply apple, it says 100% apple pure pressed. It's quite delicious! I'm nervous but I've got to try something. I'm 6 mos in and hoping to beat this crap..
MELISSA - Use at least one cup of juice.
that other hub is so insane. it doesn't matter that noone verifiable has turned out negative after taking resolve and waiting the suggested amount of time. they still believe. out of desperation i suppose. its obvious that if the product did anything at all its because its an MMS rip off. At least MMS has been documented and the founder isn't afraid to show his face or be honest about what he selling - for only $25 no less. people are crazy...
regarding you all taking MMS and documenting it, thank you.
hi all- well im up to 7drops and not major. just a few minor cramps which i woke up with before taking mms so i assume they are pre-menstrual. anyways my chamomile tea does wonders for cramps so nothing to bad. i did eat a larger breakfast this am and was able to tolerate the 7drops easier.
AZ1 were in there neck and neck witht he drops. how are you doing? as for the marriage- Ill tell you like i tell other posters. we are believing in a higher power to cure us of whats labeled as uncurable- a true miracle in that sense. We are putting this concontion in our bodies with FAITh that it will cure us. If we have faith that we can be cured of something labeled unccurable- why not have faith for our dear relationships? I will keep you and your family in my prayers.
G4L- remember it must get worse before it gets better. all the newness is a good thing because it means H is being disturbed. You know how we are when we ge woken up from a good sleep- we get pissed. look at H that same w- its being disturbed and eventually will be killed. Long as youre not passed out on the floor- continue with your doses eventualy you will win.
firerage i use lemon juice for mines as I didnt even know i had crystals in my package. seems to be working for me. its stated that when the crystals run out- you can use lemon juice so i dont think theres a problem.
mel- you may want to use a little more juice. we typically use 6ounces of juice. when i started i used 4ounces of juice and found out IMMEDIATLY i would need a little more. hope that helps.
grateful you havent passed out have you? (just teasing) check in and let us know which dose youre at.
pnj whats your 3xday schedule?
Medusa you are very right. its for them same reasons and others i asked PNJ to create this HUB so we can discuss in peace and have our own place in the world to come together. we all know resolve is MMS based and the reason its not working is because its not full strength. at best resolve 16drops has the strength as mms 11drops which Jim Humble himself stated would be adequate for SOME infections if taken for the complete duration. however for people who have had H longer we need 15drops of MMS in its pure form to battle. well dont get me started babbling because I will never shutup. are you taking MMS by the way?
Thanks for the response. I will certainly use 6-8 oz of juice.
PNJ, was your bottle of activator full after you mixed the crystals with water? Like not full up to the rim of the bottle but up to the neck?
I didn't have a tablespoon so I converted it to teaspoons and used 3 teaspoons per tablespoon. I also converted 9 tablespoons to 4.5 oz. During the first try It was too much and my bottle overflowed, not sure what went wrong. On the second try i measured out 27 teaspoons and ended up with just a lil over 4 oz and this did not overflow the bottle. I hope it is mixed right. What do you think?
MEDUSA - I agree wholeheartedly. My heart goes out to everyone there, but I did try. I figure the best I can do is at least ensure the information continues to flow, and focus on the positive dialog of those of us that are serious about getting cured. I feel the same frustration you do, and their decisions baffle me.
TECHIE - This is day 3. PS. Had another dream, this time in 2 parts. I'll email it to you. This one's a bit more straight-forward, but had a twist in the end.
MELISSA - No, my bottle was not full. It is not important that your bottle is full, what it important is you follow the instructions exact. Your solution will not be effective if you do not get the measurements right. If you put 1 teaspoon of the crystals, it is ok to simply add 9 teaspoons of water. So for every 1 tablespoon or teaspoon, make sure you add 9 of water (of whichever measurement you used). It is better for you to leave the remainder of crystals in their original packaging so that you can store them. Do not waste so much of your mixture on this.
Techie - Pnj28 and others: Yep, I am still here. This is my plan right now. Since I was struggling with the 15 drops/2x/day...decided to decrease the drops to 10 drops/2x/day and adding a third dosage beginning with 5 drops/1x/day. So far it is working. Each day I will be adding to the doses until I am up to 15 doses/3x/day for at least 2 weeks..perhaps more. I am finding out taking it with water makes me feel sick...so for me juice works well (no vit C)...I like apple juice.
My heart goes out to everyone not feeling as positive as we should...I think it is in the air....hopefully are spirits will be lifted when someone tests negative!!!!
oh my, this is frustrating because I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I used tablespoons because that is what the directions said. I only converted them to teaspoons because I did not have a tablespoon.
PNJ: Did u use tablesppons or teaspoons? How much mixtire did you end up with?
IDK, maybe I should go buy a tablespoon.
MELISSA - Do this:
1) Get a spoon out of your kitchen drawer (ANY spoon).
2) Add 1 LEVEL spoonful of crystals to a cup.
3) Add 9 level spoonfuls of water to the cup.
4) Stir until all crystals are dissolved.
5) Once dissolved, add that mixture to your bottle whether it is full or not. Don't forget to give it one last shake just to ensure all is mixed well.
The tablespoon/teaspoon is a guidline. Just grab a spoon and follow the instructions above to the T.
PNJ: Thanks. I guess I'm making this harder than what it is...stressed. I'll dump what I have and do it again.
MELISSA - No worries. Don't let mr. herpster get the better of you. Just take a deep breath, do what you need to do, and the rest will follow.
:-)
Thanks, I guess I will go with my third mixture...lol. Wow, I feel silly, I've waisted so many crystals this morning trying to mix..lol I guess the third time is the charm.
I sill plan on taking a dose this evening. I will let you all know how it goes
Techie- thanks for your words of encouragement. I am still hanging on because i know i can beat this virus, because i have GOD, FAITH, and everyone here.
PNJ- have you tried to the spray bottle method yet? I am curious because i am going to start it tomorrow or sunday.
Hey everyone! Thank you so much for your kind words and prayers, I really appreciate it. Please know though, we have been through the worst and our marriage is as good as over. It has been for years, but we've been hanging on for the kids. I really don't want to try and fix it again, as I'm really unhappy in this marriage, and I pray nearly every night for some happiness in my life. I always believed that a marriage should be held together for kids, for as long as possible, but I've come to believe that it's a lie, and they see through that. They see the unhappiness. We are not abusive or aggressive towards each other, but rather, we are just not in love anymore. Long, long story, but this isn't a marriage counselling hub, so I'll spare you all the details. Thank you all so, so much though, as you are the only people I have told. No-one in our life knows what's happening yet.
So, now I'm up to 7 drops this morning! I'm a bit nervous as most people say that this is when symptoms occur. I'm just at the end of my cycle too, and this is usually the time when I get a padrome, but nothing to report as yet. A weird thing with my eczema behind my ear. Remember when I said it was clearing? Well, last night if flared up badly, the worst it's ever been and it's weeping this morning, but I think it's because MMS is now working on it big time. It could be H related too, as it appeared at around the same time as H. As my doses get higher, so too will certain ailments and conditions flare up and ultimately clear, which is what is happening with you now Godforlife. Hope things are starting to settle down for you now, and if not, stick with it! Because I know you will get through this. Prayers are with you, and everyone else here who are on the same journey. We're all in this together! And we're going to get through this.
Have a great day everyone!
Techie - I often think of you and how you're going, as yes, we are neck and neck. I take comfort in this!
Melissa - Good on you girl for giving MMS a shot! We're all here for you every step of the way.
can someone please tell me what a padrome is?
Techie...I am a stalker of all hubs!! Lol. A prodrome is that feeling you get when an ob is about to happen...i.e. the tingling, heat sensations, sometimes pain. From what I've read, everyone's prodomes are different. I have the tingling a couple times through the day but nothing ever happens. Explain that!
Techie - My padromes are exactly like yours... painful! I get an aching feeling down my buttock and thighs.
Well, the weirdness has set in folks! After taking 7 drops, I feel very, very "weird". My ears seem to be ringing this morning too, and my glands are a little swollen I think. You know that area behind the ears and down the sides of the neck? This feeling is nerving me out a bit....
PNJ - Did you feel like this? Argh! I feel..... strange. lol. And I have a "hot" sensation throughout my tummy and body. God I'm glad I'm not doing this alone.
:)
Well MMS arrived today i will do my first does tonight, my prodome sysmptoms went away and like usual no blisters etc (knock on wood) so hopefully ths will kilkl the damn thing. Had one question who here is on the highest drops and how have the outbreaks been since on mms compared to not on mms
I did a dose of 1 drop a few hours ago. The scent is strong, I immediately smelt the bleachy scent once it started to activate. I didn't think it would be so noticable with only one drop. I mixed it in the bathroon and left the room while it finished activating. It didn't turn yellow...was this suppose to happen??? The taste wasnt bad. So, did everyone else smell it on one drop as well or am I crazy?? If for some reason it doens't beat H I certainly hope it can clear this dandruff and acne for me. I will probably do another drop for another day or two and then start 2 a day and increase every day or other day.
AZ1 - No, I didn't experience anything like that, but I pray you don't go through that much longer. I'm sure it's just your system adjusting.
FIRERAGE - I reckon I'm on the highest dosage, but it took me a while to get to this point (15 drops 3x daily). I would urge you to take your time. I've not had any outbreaks or symptoms for about 2 months.
MELISSA - Yes, the smell is there to stay, lol.
thanks yal- a padrome sounds like some thing you put on pizza- was making me hungry. :)
melissa yes i smelled it at just one drop we all did. thats normal. God speed to you- you are now a MMSer :)
AZ1 yeah im at 7 right along with you. I wrote the same thing on my blog- the only way i could describe it was WEIRD. I kinda felt stoned (yes HIGH) but no discomfort. I do get a detox headache but its not bad. so were cruising right along.
grateful so glad to see you still there and working it out. you are so determined- something has got to give for you soon.
hey guys- here is a RECENT story where the FDA had someone arrested for making claims. they were arrested at Gun Point. this is why Jim Humble cant be more forth coming.
Right now im getting the outbreak pains, this sucks. I am on day 5 of 15 drops a day 3 times a day. I was counting my blessings that i wasn't having an outbreak, but lord help me. This virus i plaques me, i swear. I just pray everyday that this horrible virus will be out of my/our system for good!
techie-God Bless these nutritionist, the damn FDA runs this country. All it wants is to make money and let us people suffer. Thank you for sending us the article.
Techie and AZ1- wow ya'll are going to be MMS twins, lol. I wish ya'll luck.
AZ1- welcome to my world with all the wierdness, it gets even better once you reach the 15 drop point, good luck!
PNJ- are you still applying MMS with a q-tip?
Ok guys, here is a prayer that i say every time i take MMS. So i was thinking the more times it is said the more times God will hear it! Here is the MMS prayer
"Please Lord, let this cure me and let this drop be one step closer to my cure." AMEN!
what do ya'll think?
I thought I'd stop by and give a quick update. I've not been posting much this afternoon because I've not been feeling well. It seems the 15 drops 3x daily was a bit too aggressive for me, and I will need to work my way to that. So tomorrow, I will start with 15/5/15 and increase daily. I've been tired all day long, my arse has been like a faucet, and the thought of eating made me prefer an enema! Anyway, I'm feeling a bit better now, but it's time for bedfordshire for me.
GODFORLIFE - I believe we need all the prayers we can muster. To answer your question, no I am not applying it topically until I can get a proper spray bottle tomorrow. I couldn't have left the house today anyhow, lol.
Well, looks like we're all moving along with MMS now!
PNJ - Thank you for your wishes, this ear ringing (but without the actual ringing... does that even make sense??? lol), is still happening. It kinda feels like I've been to a really loud concert and my hearing is less than it was. Weird! And I think my glands are a bit swollen. Having said all of that, I've suffered sinus issues for years and years, so maybe it's being cleared? Ever since 6 drops, I've noticed my nose runs a bit about 5 mins after taking the solution, and today, at 7 drops, the weirdness set in. Hard to describe, but it nerved me out a bit. Kinda feels like I'm not here? lol Weird!
Godforlife - I reckon H, MMS and your immune system are at war!!!! This is the point where you definately need to keep it going. Have you considered raising your drops to 16? It says to do that in the book, if symptoms are still there at your current dosage. Just a thought though. Oh! I'm loving your prayer before each dosage, so I'm going to use it for myself now, thank you!
Techie - Ok, I'm going to read your blog now. I haven't had a chance to do one.. I've been so busy! I'm so glad I'm not alone with this "weirdness". It's like, well.... weird! lol. Do you feel like you're kinda not here? I get headaches too and I also feel bloated and a bit icky. Think I might stay at 7 drops tomorrow too, and see how that goes before upping to 8.
Melissa - Great to hear you've started with us! And that smell, it smells like pool water. I try not to smell it, although I'm starting to burp it now at 7 drops twice per day. Feels like I've been drinking pool water. Good luck with it!
Png28: I can totally understand about the 15 drops....it is difficult and I didn't like eating or even the thought of it, and my stomach was upset all day long. I too have dropped my dosage... 5/10/10 and increasing one drop per dose per day. Been doing this for a couple of days....seems to be working. I am not feeling the upset stomach like I was.
It is weird after a few hours of taking MMS, sometimes I experience heat flashes.... does anyone have this?
So there are a few of us doing MMS now, it will be interesting how everyone does.
Good night....until tomorrow!
got mine in started last night goign to try 2 drops today and see how it goes probably increases dail till i hit six or seven then every two days i'll be in touch and let everyone know, have a wonderul h free day
AZ1 I experience just the same things as you do. My ears felt a little clogged- kind of like if you belch and you feel that tinge in your ear. My nose is lso running. I didnt pay attention to it until mentioned here. and yes WEIRD is how I feel. Like ive been smoking something and got HIGH. its surreal! the heat flashes issue i also experience and i think thats your body sweating toxins out
g4l i liked that prayer- we could all use some.
so hows our new comers? Mel- firerage? how was your first drops?
firerage we were posting at the same time i see. did you feel anything on your dose1?
AZ1 thank you for the heads up i think im going to move up a dose, i cant do it today because i am flying today, but will do it tonight or tomorrow morning.
AZ1 and techie im glad that ya'll like my prayer
PNJ- i am so sorry that you have to back down what does 15/5/15, is that 15 drops 5 times a day at 15 days?
PnJ28: I hope you feel better soon! we're all here to support you :) I'm glad to know you are doing better though :)I'm on day 3 of MMS at 3 drops twice a day and I have a oncoming break out! which is odd I never really get them.. so I'm assuming the mms has triggered the virus to come out ... is this normal? am I suppose to have an oncoming breakout? and will mms be attacking the virus at this stage?I'm also thinking that going to my doctor to get valtrex is not a good idea and just stick it out with the breakout until it goes away on its own. that way the mms can do its work in killing the virus... correct? I hope I'm doing this program correctly lol
g4l- pnj is doing three doses a day . first dose 15- second dose 5drops- last dose 15 drops.
minnie yes MMS is working at even those small doses. I had the same thing- it is flushing it out. a full fledge OB shouldnt occur as its also working at killing it- but everyone is different.
wow we got a lot of mmsers now. pnj-grateful-god4life-az1-techie-firerage-melissa-minnie who am I missing?
Techiegurl: AWW ok Thanks sweety! I feel a bit better now :) yah its not a bunch of sores its just one little bugger... but since I've been diagnoised in mid November 08... I only had one sore happen from going tanning and then nothing.... so I was curious on what was going on lol but thats good then DIE VIRUS DIE!! :D
minnie as your treatment goes forth- expect to see more activity. i do didnt get much activity but i am getting so much activity now but its good. nothing like the resolve obs people experienced. but i feel good knowing that the little mms is reaching some h cells to clear them out.
Techiegurl:You're so right I was really scared to try this resolve thing because people were getting breakouts on their face and I don't want that... and not to mention the ridiculous price! ... thank GOD there was an alternative solution :) I'm much happier with mms and it seems to be working **thumbs up** when is pnj28 scheduled to test? has anyone had positive results in being cured lately?
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Dropping my doses and working back up seems to be working...my body is starting to balance out....not so much in the bathroom in the morning. So for me incorporating the third set of 15 needs to be gradual too.
Godforlife: already to 15 drops 3x/day! Great! How is your body feeling?
Minnie and Mlelissa and Firerage101 and anyone I miss: welcome to the MMS team!
Pnj28: sounds like things are going okay for you...I know it sucks to drop the doses but eventually we both will get there!
Techiegurl: how is the alkaline diet and ph going?
Az1: how did you do at 7 drops?
Question: Does one have to wait to test like Resolve(90 days) or can one test right after the MMS treatment is done....does anyone know???
minnie- you are so right. i think resolve step3 is mms based so for me it was cheaper and just made more sense to start there. i researched myself and see mms can penetrate the cells so in essense there is no need to FLUSH the virus out first- mms is doing its own flushing out and with each mini ob or pimple mms is working to clear it.
grateful so glad to know you are doing well. me and az1 are neck and neck on the 7drops. i was so glad i could start with someone. as for the alkaline well lets just say i had a few LOW moments hehe. i added chicken back to my diet 2-3times a week and ended up eating it more times that i planned. my ph levels are still good though. still ranging from 7.5-8.0. I did totally rebel yesterday and ate what I wanted so I wont waste a pH strip to test today lol. Ill just get back to my routine and drink plenty of water today to flush my system. you posed a good question m not sure when would be a good time to test- i guess once you are ob free hmmn who knows. pnj is supposed to test mid february- looks likes shes our first mms test taker.
hey fam- need to gross everyone out and im sorry but like was said earlier whats more personal than H?
so my stools are not "runny" like i expected to experience on MMS. They are solid clay like. While on pH they were loose stools but not "rhea" but it faded off before I was done with first week. am I wrong to expect runny stools? do i need to be more patient?
OH I also forgot to ask about anything I should avoid? I drink a lot of coffee is thata bad thing? and I know to stay away from Vitamine C ... but is there anything else I should keep away from my diet?
I am planning to do another drop this evening.
Ok guys I started today. I did two drops this morning and will try 3 this evening. I was wondering though since Im not a breakfast person I ate an apple while waiting the 3 min. Stomach felt a little funny but I went back to sleep and woke up feeling fine. Should I have waited the 30 min after eating the apple to drink or was that fine? This all happened around 8:30am I did feel a little heat rush bout 2pm but figured it was nothing plus I had just got finish doing a little cleaning. I notice some folk asked about heat flashes. Cant say that was really what it was but who knows.
Techie whats the link to your blog. Im interesting in keeping track. You seem to know alot and do alot or research. I hope this doesnt call to many ob i usually only get them 1 every 6 months if that. Cant stand them I go as far as putting alcohol on them the burn gives me the impression its working to heal it.lol
woow I read that article about the arrest. Its a shame how far they will go to keep people from knowing the truth. I know they wont get my money I try my best to stay away from meds. I was going to get on valtrex but figured why pay to take it everyday for the rest of my life when one I dont have obs like that and two regardless if your on it or not its still not 100% guaranteed to stop the spread. so your darn if you do darn if you dont.
Wow, I've missed so much this morning! Well I feel so much better now. 15/15/15 really kicked my behind yesterday, so I'm lowering one of my 3 doses. The interesting thing is this high dose was fine for the first few days, so I'm not really sure what was different other than not taking it with juice. I'm inclined to believe the the delay in reaction was MMS working it's way through my system. Anyway, doing good now, and will now do 15/5/15.
AZ1 - I know herpes can reside in the nodes, so the tenderness you are experiencing there sounds par for the course in my opinion. I did experience the ear ringing, but that subsided once I was used to the higher doses.
GRATEFUL - Cheers for the prayer and support. No, 5x daily is far too much if you are not terminally ill, and there is a specific protocol for that.
FIRERAGE - Good on you. Please let us know your progress!
TECHIE - Everyone will be different, so you may not notice a change in your tool until later. When the loose stools do come, they do disappear quickly. And per my research, if you do experience diarrhea you should not take anything for it as it will subside on it's own, however, you should consider lowering your dosage slightly. It all depends on how long MMS takes to work its way through your system, and the amount of toxins in your system. I too experienced the ear ringing phenomenon, and it does subside.
MINNIE - Cheers for the support! I'm doing great now that I've had some time to rest. I'm going to do 2 doses today and restart my 3 doses tomorrow because I overslept today and needed the extra rest. In regards to what to avoid, people have contributed many opinions on this, but to be honest, I have not experienced any problems eating whatever I wish, which at times does include greasy food. The only problems I've experienced is once when I ate more than I should have.
DONTKNOWY - You should be upping your drops DAILY, not per dose. And no, I would not recommend taking drugs while on MMS, as MMS may treat the drugs as a toxin. It is generally ok to take MMS 5-20 mins after eating, however, my golden rule is 5-10 mins. I have a more sensitive tummy and prefer to know for sure it is not empty when taking MMS.
MINNIE - I almost forgot to mention. The small OB while on MMS is normal. When I first started MMS last month, I experienced a tiny pin-sized outbreak my first week, which disappeared in 2 days. So you're on the right track!
ALL - The success of MMS depends highly on how responsibly you take it. Go slow, don't get too aggressive or crazy, and keep it simple. Think of it like taking a supplement and not a drug. The only thing MMS needs to work is a bit of patience and our own immune system, we need not interfere. If you would like to see how I managed my smaller doses and the symptoms to expect, please feel free to visit my blog (just remember to use the correct juice, lol).
dontdontknowy you asked for my blog here it is.
http://curedin09.blogspot.com/
PNJ- I been in that cake I am sooo bad. I ate a whole row of squares between last night and this afternoon. Im gonna save a few squares for the babies and GIVE IT AWAY else Im not gonna stop and will consume it all this weekend. (then again maybe i should consume it this weekend and start back on alkaline next week) I will be on this alkaline diet until march may as well enjoy now :) seriously i wanna know your thoughts on this process.
As I begin to take the higher doses of MMS eating is going to be even more important. I dont have time in the morning to eat BREAKFAST at home so i usually grab a piece of fruit. but now the fruit isnt fulfilling enough. I was thinking of mixing my mms at home and transporting it to work where i usually have the opportunity to eat a bigger breakfast. what you think of me not drinking mms as soon as its mixed?
Ok, this is going to sound gross, but I just weighed myself and I've lost about 5 pounds from yesterday. I'm happy about the weight, but that is A LOT of gunk out of my system, lol.
TECHIE - You can let MMS sit 3-5 minutes before diluting with water or juice, and once diluted, you can drink within 1 hour (although the sooner the better). Your blog url is already included on this HUB.
You are WRONG for eating that cake you cooked for those poor children! LOL
pnj- lol they got more than they should have to keep me from eating so much. they are hyped and super hyped. and wow is all ican say.
i posted the blog url as dontknowy asked- maybe he/she didnt notice the links.
so 1hour thats gonna be a problem. im gonna have to get creative here. maybe toast or eggs or something.
TECHIE - Why don't you just bring the MMS and Citric Acid with you to work and mix it there? You can cover the cup with a napkin so the smell doesn't get out.
pnj28: ok thanks so much! it seems like I have the same type of symptoms as you... compared to my last sore its very small as well! and it isnt an open sore its more of a bump... which is good the open sore was super ichy last time it drove me crazy.... I also put mms (1 drop followed by 5 citric acid) mixture onto a Q-tip and applied it to the area... it stung a little but but went away quickly.. hopefully it'll make it clear faster.
pnj i work in a very open area. i wouldnt wanna risk that. i have NO privacy at work what so ever- so my best bet is to do it at home. i tried the napkin thing at home LOL didnt work. where theres a will theres a way. may consider doing it in my car but dont wanna keep the solutions exposed to the sun. in time i will figure it out- i have no choice.
PNJ 5pounds thats awesome. that was a lotta loo you passed on yesterday. see 15drops3x a day was helpful in some regards.
Good evening, well to be honest screwed up this morning took 2 drops but only added 10 drops of lemon juice (ooppsss) other than feeling weird its all good. Got some fresh lemons tonight and a bottle with a dropper plan on squezzing the juice myself instead of the star bought with additives. I plan on increasing daily untill 6 or 7 then two days at each. Nothing to report yet stool good, hearing good, MMS taste mmmmm priceless finally drink pool water pays offf YYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSss haha ;-) anyways i'll be in touch. P>S. for those wondering my prodomes went away like usual with no blister's guess that could be a good thing
Hey all!
PNJ - Now that's interesting! I didn't know H could reside in lymph nodes, and it makes sense. I've had HSV1 orally since childhood, and although I don't get many OB around the mouth these days, when they do come up, they can be quite nasty. Also, over the last 18 months, I've developed ezcema behind my right hear, which itches, cracks and weeps. Maybe that has something to do with H? I'm glad to hear you experienced the ear ringing too, as it has been nerving me out a bit.
Grateful - I was on 7 drops yesterday morning, however I dropped back to 6 last night as I felt icky all afternoon. After each dose since 6 drops, I get a heat rush within 10 mins of taking the solution, and then I feel "weird". However 7 drops induced ringing in the ears and a feeling of something being swollen down the sides of my neck, which PNJ suggested the nodes. I think she's right. I also get headaches and feel more tired than usual. The day seems to go well, and then I get a delayed reaction of the night time, just before my 2nd dose. This usually includes another feeling of "weirdness", headaches, another heat rush, and I'm a bit off my food. I'm not nauseous as yet, but just don't feel like eating dinner. I make myself eat though.
Techie - Woohoo! neck and neck! I'm so glad to hear we are experiencing the same symptoms... it's weird huh? Not in a bad or unbearable way though.
Godforlife - Keep it going! You're doing well! I definately think upping your dose by one drop only, is worth considering. Especially now that you're experiencing severe padrome and OB symptoms. MMS will kill that sucker, don't you worry! And because you haven't had H for long, maybe it hasn't replicated enough to spread, so MMS and your immune system are at war with the main strain that has been sitting dormant, waiting to replicate to other places.
I'm on 7 drops this morning, and I plan on staying there tomorrow as well. Steady as she goes, this ship may be passing very slowly through the night, but it's ready to barge anything in its way!
firerage- 2 drops of mms means 10drops of lemon juice or activator so you did it correct. I too am looking at getting a small dropper so this can be a little easier. Im at 40+drops of activator and had to do it over three times this am as I thought too much had came out. when i get to 75drops I can imagine thats gonna be a nightmare to count through.
AZ1- HEY--hope youre feeling well later on. did you do that blog yet. so glad to know you are doing well.
hey guys I have a funny visual for you- the MMS is forcing H out of its hiding places and attacking it. H is running from the MMS and has no where to go but out so it try to penetrate the skin (padromes) but the MMS catches it and kills it before it gets a chance. Just look at it that way- every time you feel H activity in the slightest way- just know that MMS and our immune system is chasing it down to kill it.
ALL - I just posted this on my blog, and thought I would share it with you all here as well....
Earlier today, I remembered a dream I had earlier this week. I was dreaming about a time when my dog had been running around while hooked to our gate and, inadvertently, wrapped her long leash around the leg of a chair. There was no longer any room for her to run, and her cries turned into loud howls as she tried to leap harder and harder to get free and run across the lawn. What made me chuckle about remembering this is when I tried to help her to get free, the only way to do do it was to push her tiny body the opposite direction of the way in which she had wound herself. This made her even more upset, and made it quite time consuming...
Do you know what I think God is like? I think God is like me unwinding my poor little dog. I think that sometimes we seem to be moving in the opposite direction of what we feel is right, but really it is the only way to get where we are going. I believe God is like my hand comforting my dog, reassuring her that I know best and to just trust me, as I could see something she could not. The more resistance we give, the longer it will take to get where we are going. Everything makes sense and happens for a reason in it's own time and way. But if we don't let go and do the right things, we will miss the beauty of it all.
PNJ that was very beautiful!
Wow, that was really inspiring PNJ. And very, very true I think. I have a spiritual book that someone gave me some time ago. When I was at my lowest ebb and in tears, with nowhere to go emotionally, I sat on the bed and opened this book for the first time. The sunset filled page that stared back at me, I believe, was a message from God at a time when I desperately needed it, and read as follows:
"Just know that I am here... always. So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you".
This message was profound, as the book is called The Interview With God, and that one message, is one of only a handful in this book. Why would the book open at that particular page when I was at my lowest point? I know why, and ever since that day 9 months ago, my life has changed for the better in so many ways. It's been painful, but I see it as rebirthing, and I believe God has been gently leading me down the right path after so many years of being on the wrong path, even though this new path feels "wrong" sometimes.
Thanks for sharing that PNJ, it's actually helped me personally in ways you can't imagine.
Techie - Blog's coming soon!
HAve to admit that was a wonderful story, so weird question i usually have a cup of coffee in the morn and wine at night do i need to change these habits while on mms
I did another drop. Is the mixture supposed to turn yellow? I hope not becuase my mixture has not turned yellow unless this happens as you up your doses.
AZ1 - I have all 3 of those those books, and they are absolutely beautiful! I broke down into tears after I read the rants and raves of the author, and then saw God's response. For me, all of my life I have simply wanted to know that someone was there for me. I had come to terms with the "fact" that I would just have to make due with silence. Then I read his first response and could not hold back the tears. Sometimes we just need to know we're not alone, and that response told me I never was. Even thinking about it makes me cry.
When we've done things the wrong way for so long it has a tendency to feel normal, therefore, doing things the right way will at first feel "wrong". But that is just a trick of the mind. It is our faith that moves us along.
FIRERAGE - I still drink coffee and tea. The alcohol, I would limit, as it appears to interfere with the immune system. One glass or two should be fine though, and if you're drinking it daily, perhaps one glass or less.
MELISSA - Yes, the more solution you make, the more yellow it appears. That's normal.
grateful- one word for you, PAIN! I get predrome symptoms almost every day, so everyday i feel like im having an outbreak. I think my body is adjusting quite well to MMS, even though my allergies have been out the wall. My voice is gone, and i have been hacking up chunks of mucous. I dont know if its MMS taking care of something or what.
Ps- i was trying to look at this on my phone, i had to go through 8 pages to get to the latest posts, man we talk alot here.
AZ1- i love it when you post, i always feel all your positive vibes and this brings a smile to my face. I think i am going to move up to 16 drops tonight well see how that goes. School starts on Monday and i dont want to go there all nauseated with the D. I hope all is well with you!
PNJ- YAY for you losing weight! Thats how much weight i lost when i ate that meatloaf. There is good out of all the V and D, hahaha. I hope that you are feeling better. What type of bottle are you getting for spraying the MMS down there? When you were going up on your drops did you get hotflashes? I didn't, sometimes i think that i am mixing my solution wrong, but i don't knows its prolly me being paranoid. Thank you for your story PNJ!
Firerage- I laugh at your jokes with drinking pool water, that is soo funny. It gets better once you reach the 15 mark drop! I call the drink my chlorine cocktail, now i may change it to Firerage cocktail, hahaha. As for the alcohol, my friend is also on MMS and i asked him to do an experiment bc he drinks and smokes once a week. Now that he has stopped both of them his symptoms are improving. I don't know if this will help you or not. Im trying to get him to join the hub but i dont know when he will join.
Melissa- good luck to you on your MMS journey.
Techie- as for your work and doing MMS there, i am a pro at hiding and doing MMS. Go to the bathroom and do it, my phone has a timer on it so i use my phone as the time. Also put your juice in a plastic bottle and take it with you to the bathroom.
Hey everyone, I'm new to this Hub. I posted one long comment on the Resolve hub and after reading the last few weeks of posts decided that product and that Hub is NOT for me. I have decided to take a stab with the MMS, because it seems more legit and that in the long run, your overall health is improved even if the H isn't totally erradicated (although I hope and believe it will work on the herp!).
I have HSV2, have for about 5 years. My outbreaks aren't that frequent or severe, but I still get them. Like many people the first was the worst. The past few years its been hard to really conclude what is "one" or "seperate" OBs because when I do get them, they are usually not concentrated in one area and single "pimples" seem to pop up in different places a few days apart. Most of them are on my thighs and butt, and occasionally on the pubic region. However, I've never (knock on wood) had an outbreak on my penis or scrotum, and I'd like to keep it that way. As I read your posts, I realize my condition could be much worse and my heart goes out to those of you who have to deal with extreme cases.
With that said, I have decided to go with the MMS and ordered it last night after lurking through the last few weeks of posts on this Hub. It's nice to have a group of people who understand and experience the same things as you. My problem is deciding when to exactly begin my treatment. I wish I would've found this info about 4 months ago! I've been living at home without a job the past few months and could've suffered through the side effects privately. I lived in Asia last year and I'm going back to teach in about a month, which is not long enough to finish the treatment before hand. Once I start working again it will be much more difficult to stick to a regimine and deal with the side effects (imagine a dozen Asian kids in a small classroom with a foreign teacher with bad gas).
I want to start the treatment asap but should probably wait because I know I won't be able to keep the doses up while traveling and adjusting to the new lifestyle again. I also ordered some pH strips, I guess I will start off by trying to improve my body's alkaline level and monitoring the fellow hubbers progress while they get through treatment, so that when I start mine I will be well informed and my body will be better suited to handle this intense process.
All I can say is that I thank God for helping me find you people and a newfound hope. I have some spiritual related things to share regarding my experience, but I will save those for another post until you are all better aquainted with me (and since this post is getting a bit long)
I hope y'all will welcome me into your group. Stay strong everyone!
Welcome Packman, you will always be welcomed here.
Hey Pacman, great to have you here! Thank PNJ for this wonderfully supportive hub.... I do everyday! And also welcome to our journey, of which you are now going to become part of. We are like one big family here and together, we're all positive about getting rid of Herpes for good! Whether you get 10, 1 or no OB's a year, having the virus in our system puts a drain on not only our immune systems, but also self esteem and emotional wellbeing. For this alone, this sucker is going to be slam dunked out of my body for good! There's just not enough room for the both of us in this body. Let us know when you get your MMS!
PACKMAN - Hello there and welcome indeed! You've come to the right place, and you needn't worry about needing someone to talk to here. I understand what you mean about the other HUB. This is why I created this HUB, and believe me, I will delete anyone who is not here for the greater good so that we can all focus our precious energy on getting cured!
Perhaps what you could do is start MMS at a small "maintenance" dose, which would be better than nothing? It's just a thought, but you're right and had me falling off my bed when you said it, a farting American teacher in a roomful of Asian kids is not exactly a vision of heaven, lol!!! You'd scar them for life!
AZ1 - Cheers, and my sentiments exactly. There is simply NOT enough room in our bodies to share with herpes!
hey packman- you made it! i think i talked to you on the other hub.
so guys 8drops went pretty much ok- but now I am about to up to 9 and I kinda think maybe i should back down. thoughts? well let me tell you my ailment this morning.
this morning i am starting to feel my first icky feeling but i dont know if its mms related. I have what feels like a sinus decongestion headache its not too bad its slight- and a sore neck. (sound familiar) the problem is WE usually sleep under a humidifier else we all suffer big time. Well last night the humidifier timed out and shut off and I didnt realize it till this am. Not only am I feeling icky the kids too (they slept in the bed with us last night) my son woke up to a very thick dried crusty nose. this usually happens to him if the humidity isnt right so this is no alarm for me. I just wish I had checked the humidifier before I went to sleep. so back to me- I am spitting up a lot of yellow mucus (just gross) as well. what do you guys think?
Hey techie, I'm only on 7 drops, and I'm doing nicely. Upped to 7 drops yesterday morning, and didn't feel right. Headaches were bad, ringing in ears and swollen nodes I think, so dropped back to 6 drops last night. Today, I've handled 7 drops better, so I think maybe it might be better if you stayed on 8 drops to let your immune system get used to the higher dose. I know you already know this, but I know MMS now gives me fog brain, and I just can't seem to think rationally sometimes. Not saying you're not thinking rationally... lol, it's just nice to hear someone elses opinion and to have backing. I'm desperate to get up to 15 drops too, but my aim is steady as she goes, as I agree with PNJ, that the slower we go, the more time it gives our bodies to fight off infection. The longer MMS is in your system, the better it works too I think, so if we get to 15 drops too soon, it may not be long enough. Just a htought anyway.
Good luck with it! I'm on 8 drops tomorrow! Eeek! Feeling good though.
welcome to the hub packman
godforlife
glad i could make you laugh, chlorine water is just good for you thats all haha and bad for the H
everyone else, im at 3 drops now started the 3rd drop this morning nothing to report except for its cold out holy crap oh yeah i had this drink this morning tasted likely a bad lemon drink weird!!!! oh wait that was the mms well hope you all have a good day
Packman: welcome to the world of MMS and support!
So last night i woke up freezing my butt off literally, and now when i woke up i am so sweaty. Any thoughts on this? As anyone else experienced this as well?
I get heat rushes too godforlife, and I've still got the ear ringing too. If the kids are too loud, it literally pierces my ears. I'm not sure whether I should up to 8 drops today or not. What do you think PNJ? I was on 7 drops yesterday, and have had no nausea, but the ear ringing isn't pleasant. Neither are the headaches, but they're bearable.
Not sure about anybody else, but I'm not sleeping very well of the night. It's not that I'm tired, but rather the opposite. I toss and turn in my sleep and keep waking up. Weird.
good evening, question well actually two of them
Has anyone tried BHT if so how was it success yeah or neah,
Someone who had been on MMS how are the outbreaks compared to before mms just as severe way less non existant etc
just curious
Hi fireage101, I'm up to 7 drops on MMS and I started taking it when I had a padrome. The padrome was more or less an ache down the back of my leg and buttock and then I had a small OB in the genital area. Once I started taking MMS, the padrome stopped within 4 hours, although the OB was already there. This tells me that it's working, as my padromes usually last a few days, and this one stopped right in the middle of its intensity. The OB cleared quite quickly as well, particularly as I upped my drops each day.
In addition, and I'm very excited about this, I have just finished my cycle, and I have no padrome and no OB. I stopped taking Lysine since starting MMS, and without it, I would normally get a padrome and OB every single month just after my cycle. Well, I have had no padrome and no OB, so I'm very happy about this! Also, apart from feeling a little weird with fog brain and ringing ears, I actually feel quite good and I know that MMS and my immune system are at battle with Herpes in my body.
To everyone, I'm sticking at 7 drops again today... I just feel that I should for some reason, and I'll start on 8 drops tomorrow. Hubby's up to 9 drops already and no symptoms! Lucky, healthy bugger he is! lol
AZ1- ok im glad that i am not the only one who gets those. If you have a gut feeling not to move up a drop then maybe you shouldn't move up. I am so happy for you that you didnt get an outbreak, YAY!!!
Great artcle!
az1- I did my 9drops without incident. i realized I had a negative energy in my home trying to hinder some of my daily things i had planned and i dealt with that (and turned on the humidifier) and I was fine. I do have the ear issue and I looked at it as improved hearing because its not ringing anymore I just can hear a hell of a lot better. Ive had to turn down tvs and radios and adjust sounds all day as my hearing before MMS has been changed. Looks like MMS is working on other ailments. this is so amazing to me because i always had good hearing but its gotten better. its like a wonder to me the things that MMS will fix without us even knowing its working. maybe i can get rid of these glasses next (hehe)
pnj you ok? you went out for juice last night and aint been seen since. please check in- youre important to us- we least gotta hear a line or two from you daily to know you aint passed out :)
firerage im so glad to see you moving right along. the people who are on 15drops have all noted they have seen lots of improvements with their obs since starting mms. pnj has been on free for over 2months. grateful adn godforlife are not suffering with them either.
g4l- i do got the heat thingy. could be the detox portion pushing toxins out the body. but we have sure felt it. hope youre doing well.
grateful- how are them doses coming?
mel- you hanging in there? how was day2?
PNJ- I was increasing every dose becase the paper that came with the kit said "Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening on a light stomach(not empty, but not full-some bread or banana is good). Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a "new" dose" And in the instructions for children that came with it, it states "if you give 1/2 drop in the morning wait until the afternoon before giving 1 drop and then the next morning for 2 drops" So I figured since it said each time you take a "new" dose increase I figured my 2nd dose for the day was considered a "new" dose. At the top of the paper it says "standard mms protocol by jim humble(reprinted with permission) Do I have something different from everyone else?
Techie- thanks..yeah I bypass all the info at the top and come straght to bottom since the latest info is down there. Sorry for not paying attention and making you retype it...
All- I brought a medine syringe from walmart for $1.70 and I believe someone posted earlier how 40 drops = 2ml, 20 drops=1ml.... This is way better than counting every single drop. Since the syringe starts at 1ml I marked a line for 10 drops and I dont mind counting 5 drops.
Everyone doing fine, since I decreased the doses and working myself back up to 15 drops. I looked at my "MMS records"; it was at 13 drops/2x day when I started having troubles with my body. I continued to work myself up to 15 drops/2x/daily, but that is when the real trouble started. I recommended to take it slow and incorporate the 3 set of drops before getting to the 15 drops/3x daily. I should be at 15 drops/3x/day on Feb 1; that makes me taking MMS over a month...trying to work up to the recommended dosage...I was a little aggressive!
My instructions also said to increase by one drop each time, for my experience that was fine until I was close to 15 drops...I didn't listen to my body...it was too much too fast.
Until later.....
Hey everyone. Thanks for the very warm welcome into this hub, and special thanks to PNJ for creating it.
Still waiting to get my pH strips and MMS in the mail. I think everyday the nervious/excited knot in my stomach is tightening a little more in anticipation. Today I have just one question and one suggestion:
I've never really used any kind of direct treatment, because for so long I thought there was none and was too afraid to give up my secret to anyone in search of an answer. Who here has used organic coconut oil or Apple Cider Vinegar? Can anyone give me a brief description of how it helps, how much to take and any other info/experiences you may have had?
As for those of you who have been on MMS for awhile and working up to 15 drops 3x a day: It seems some have had problems when the get to 15 drops 2x a day and then jump up to 3x. It seems that maybe the extra dose is too big of a jump, considering you're going from a total of 30 drops per day to 45. When its time to make the jump to a third dose, I would consider at first dropping down to 10 drops 3x, which equals the same daily dose of 30 drops. Then move up to 11, 12, 13 and so on unitl you can get up to the goal. This way, you are only increasing your daily intake by 3 drops at a time as opposed to 15. You body may respond differently not that you're taking it every 8 hours instead of 12, but I think it's a better plan for introducing the higher dosage.
ive been taking coconut oil with my daily vitamin, i will tell you i have lost weight on this which isnt good as im already a slender guy, supposedly when your body breaks this down it turns into an acid that is capable of dissolving the lipid coating on the outside of viruses making it easier for the immune system / mms get to the cell wall. I have thought about incorporating BHt in this as well but havnt mustered the courage since i dont know of anyone trying this. Currenlty im on 4 drops of MMS all is well so far, will probably try to incorporate the 3 times daily at or near about 7 drops and then taking it slow, untill then unless my body says otherwise will up one drop daily then approx every two days at 7.
Packman: if you read my post above yours, that's what happen to me. Just too many drops at once...so I decrease the drops and incorporated drops 3 times a day. Today I am at 9/45..13/65...and 13/65....again with the 13 drops I am feeling icky in the stomach. I am going to stay on the 13/65 for a few days and increase the drops 9/45 over that same few days. Let's see how this round goes. It's weird, I don't remember so many stomach complications while on Resolve.....hopefully using one right after the other I will be cured!!!!
Everyone: wishing you a happy day and happy drops!!!!
AZ1 - I reckon you should go slower if the side effects you are experiencing are too troublesome. They do go away on their own accord, but if they are that annoying, you should back down and take it easy. If anything, it will give you peace of mind, lol. Always go with your gut.
FIRERAGE - I've been on 15 drops 2x daily, and have been outbreak free for about 2 months now (yippeeee!). I got bold and decided to try it 3x daily and it was too much. I've since backed down. The plan was to start with 15/5/15 and work that second dose up one drop per day, but I'm still allowing my body to adjust to my usual 15/2x. You could say I'm taking a breather.
KUBRAT - Welcome to the HUB.
TECHIE - I'm around, I just needed to take care of a few things yesterday. You are so funny about me running out for juice and never returning, LOL! I did come back, but you all were long gone.
DONTKNOWY - The instructions they give are general at best and generally do not specify so clearly when to up your dosage because the timing will be different for everyone. They are not a prescription for how to take it. On Jim's site (which is unfortunately down at the moment for maintenance), he says explicitly that slower is better. The instructions say something to the effect of upping your drops "the next time". But "the next time" is meant to mean the next day. One day is one day of dosing. Yes there are 2 dosages in one day, but you should think of one day as one level. You can, of course, up your dosages however you wish, but you are more likely to experience far more negative side effects and face trouble with your immune system fighting virus at the higher dosages if you are not properly acclimated.
PACKMAN - I'm glad you're a part of the family now. To answer your question, I've tried ACV, and hated it. It burned the shite out of me to the point where I had a limp, and seemed to have no effect on the virus in general, meaning, there was no difference in the amount of outbreaks I received per month nor the duration of them. I may the the exception and not the rule, but I did not like that therapy. I should point out that men seem to respond to therapies differently than do women due to the difference in tissue, which is why I believe it's extra important that men take extra precaution not to spread the virus, as men are far more likely to be "asymptomatic".
Cheers for the advice on the dosages. I'm giving my body time to adjust to where I left off. 15/15/15 was far too high for me, and I had planned to start at 15/5/15, but you could be right in that it may be better to start with all doses level. I will probably adopt this method once I feel completely normal again at 15/2x daily. I'm getting there, but my body was quite angry with me for getting so aggressive so suddenly!
dontknowy- all of our instructions say that but we have learned from personal experience slower is better. there have been some MMSers who tried upping their doses at every dose and encountered problems hecks- some of us are upping daily and still running into issues. you do what suits you- if you can handle upping each dose were still here to support and wish you the best. I found that when I was upping each dose I didnt have any stools then pnj posted about taking time to "take the garbage out" and it made sense. once i slowed down i began to have stools again. we all want to get to 15drops (look at grateful hehe) but it will do us no good if we get to 15drops and mms is not working the way its supposed to because we went too fast etc. I hope you dont feel that were picking on you- just trying to help. overall you know your body and you know how much you can handle- so when yoy get to a dose that causes problems for you- you will know it.
grateful so youre doing 13drops 3x a day? i applaud you- you been at it for a while. im sure what ever was there is dead and gone now. when do you plan on getting tested? grateful- mms is stronger than resolve so that could explain why you didnt have as many issues.
packman great suggestion. I am now on ten drops and i think Im going to slow it down a little bit and do three doses before i increase. I will also try to figure out how to incorporate a third dose in the mix. which site did you order your mms from? which site did you order your strips from?
az1 how you doing over there? are you gonna back down?
firerage are you taking monolaurin or jsut plain coconut oil?
techie girl
straight coconut oil in capsule form 3,000 mg daily going to lay off it though here in a few days been at it for a month and ive been loosing weight. I really want to know more about BHT but non one seems to know. For now mms is working nicely i usually get one outbreak a month last one was the seventh i beleive as started keeping track. Fortunately ive had it a short time since august roughly and never manifested into blisters altough i do think i may of had one or two wasnt able to tell if it was ingrown hair or not. however no outbreak manifested further (knock on wood) the blister or ingrown was on the base of scrotum. I like what MMS is doing as i feel different down there i used to have a constant itch and that seems to be gone. I wil stay at this for sometime with MMS. My only concern is the resolve people are having more outbreaks than ever poor KIM, and i dont know if its from step one (which may of weakend the immune system) or step three kept it at bay even though weaker form of mms and then the remaining viruses had a party with no one to hold them back.
firerage- i use to post over there a lot and i came to the conclusion that step1 resolve was arginine. if this is the case that would explain why people are having such terrible outbreaks. taking arginine for 25days straight is a very bad thing to do for any H sufferer and if your immune system isnt ready to fight off all the triggered virus then were left to see what we see from the resolve users. also step2 for 7 days to raise Ph levels before the mms portion can fight is also a problem as h is out in full force for 7 days before mms can get to it. then the resolve step3 is not even long enough per mms protocol to kill the virus. so in a nutshell resolve and the way it operates falls short in a few areas.
Techiegurl- I got the pH strips off eBay, and the MMS I got from a link that was on this MMS hub, I think its one of the more common sites that ppl here use. Can't remember the name, but it does mention that the forumla mix is approved by Jim Humble. Does anyone know where to get coconut oil supplements? My mom has a jar of of the actual organic coconut oil (used for something else, not H) and by the looks of it I'm not sure I could scrape off a tablespoon and swallow it once a day.
Hey all! Ive had a shocker this morning. Didn't get much sleep last night and with this fog brain from MMS, I'm just not thinking straight. Anyhow, this morning I upped my dose to 8 drops, however when I was counting them, my girls put me off track, so I through it out and started over. 8 drops MMS and 40 drops citric acid. Well, ran out of juice so used water instead and it tasted like lemon water, although I held my breath whilst taking it. I noticed heat down my throat after taking it, but it didn't burn as such. And then a thought occurred to me.... and then alarm bells went off.... did I accidentally do 40 drops MMS to 8 drops citric acid? Argh!!!! I freaked out!!!! Started drinking water and then the panic set in. So I did a quick experiment and did 40 drops MMS to 8 drops citric acid.. let it sit for 3 mins and tasted it. It definately didn't taste like lemon water, so the solution I took was correct. Argh! I can't believe this happened! Anyhow, the point of the story is.... what happens if you acidentally overdose? Is there a way to neutralize the solution in your system?
OK...so I received a bottle of MMS from an Alberta supplier I found on the Humble web site. Came in a clear plastic bottle, not the green ones everyone talks about, and did not have a dropper lid. Think I have some in my camp kit...
So now I'm wondering when to begin... probably the 1st when I get back from a break up north... so now I'd really need to know if there is anyone, anyone, who can confirm that indeed someone has tested positive before MMS and negative after, with published test results. I understand that MMS seems to be helping to ease symptoms, but mine thankfully aren't that severe. My main concern is passing H on to someone else. I simply can't risk putting someone else through this sh*t... ever ever ever! Anyone?
Also I've done a lemon aid cleanse a couple of times. (Lemon juice and maple syrup based.) Was thinking of using that mixture with the MMS instead of fruit juice. Would appreciate any thoughts?
Thanks
Still freaking out! Even though I know I've done it right, this fog brain has me all nerved out that I've done the wrong mix. Half hour has passed now, so I guess if I did the wrong mix, I'd know about by now! Wouldn't I? Where are you PNJ? LOL. Gawd I wish the world was flat! Still have ear ringing, and a kind of "deafness", but I guess that will pass as I keep upping my dose. Argh, anyone there? lol
AZ1 - Yes, the remedy is Sodium Bicarbonate (Baking Soda) or Vitamin C, but not both. The site is down at the moment, but you can check Jim Humble's website for more information on quantities. If my memory serves correct, you should use one teaspoon of Sodium Bicarbonate in a glass of water, but don't quote me on that.
CANADA - You cannot use lemon juice to dilute your MMS. It will deactivate your solution. You should only use lemon juice, lime juice, or citric acid as an activator. The juice you use to dilute it should contain no citric acid, absorbic acid, vitamin c, or sodium citrate. In other words, use fresh 100% juice.
If you are looking for medical literature, test studies, and "human trials" on MMS, good luck with that. There is far too much suppression for that to be readily available, and MMS is not a drug. However, I would urge you to do the work and download the free literature freely available on the MMS Website to get better informed of what tests have been done, what it's cured, and information on testimonials. To my knowledge, no one posting on this HUB knows anyone who has proven their results through a blood test, therefore we will be the first to do that. This is not to say these individuals don't exist, I simply don't know any of them, and my hunch is that some would not even think to get retested due to the nature of the virus. I'd rather not speculate.
We are obviously very interested in speaking to anyone who would like to post their blood test results (as we all plan to do), but keep in mind, most people with herpes (if they even know they have it) are not interested in telling anyone they have it, let alone posting their test results for the world to see (annonymous or not). Also keep in mind that a very small percentage of the population has even heard about this HUB or any forum in which to post such results. The best thing to do is to take responsibility for your own health. We all decided to try it for ourselves because it felt right to us, however I would never encourage anyone to try something they weren't completely comfortable with.
Hey all school started today so i am on a break.
PNJ- i was wondering if you got the bottle yet? Today is my first week at 15 drops 3 times a day, and today marks the one month mark of how long i have been taking MMS.Wow, i can't believe it has been a month already, HOLY COW! I think i am going to up the dose tonight because i am still getting the leg pains, they are not as bad as they were when i first started the 15 drops three times a day. I'm not sure how many drops i should go up to? What is your opinion on this? Im a ready for this virus to get out of me so i can get back to concentrating on my school work instead of trying to kill this beast. I think i have the active virus in me and this stupid thing does not want to die....UGH.
All- i wish everyone luck with MMS, dont forget to say your MMS prayer before you take every drop like i do, it helps me alot.
Well back to class. PS does anyone know where to buy the citric acid crystals at?
Thanks for that PNJ. Feeling fine now! lol. Combination of lack of sleep (literally only had 2 hrs last night!), 3 kids at home full time for 8 weeks (bring on school tomorrow!!!!), and high humidity with high temps here (35 degrees celcius), makes for a stressed out mum! I'll write down the bi carb soda thing though, just in case!
Hey PNJ, techie and godforlife! I finally did my own blog! It's not finished as yet as I'm still figuring out how to add more links. Now I won't take up so much space blogging on this hub! lol. The link is as follows:
http://az1-virusfreeliving09.blogspot.com/
Oh, and 8 drops is definately the "one" for me. I've been experiencing mild cramping and nausea for the first time. Hmm, MMS is killing the H! Sucker!!!! lol
PNJ28 - Thanks for the feedabck. That's sort of what I figured. If I can beat this thing you can believe I'm postiing the results. Who cares who knows! Every woman I've been involved with since day-one has been told about my condition. no-one has yet to refuse to see me... mind you there have been times when I just didn't feel like going through the explanatiopn all over again!
Thanks for the tip about the juice. It did seem to be an oximoron that you use lemon juice to activate it... which has vit C... but that vic C deactivates the solution... so I'll have to go looking for something else... too bad.. the lemon and maple syrup combo is actually quite good.
So I guess tuesday is day 1. Let the games begin!
Justy read the last message about lemon juice deactivating. Now if they say it on the website why are we changing the formula. It may have Vitamin C but I am sure they knew that when telling us the lemon or lime juice works so why is someone posting something different.
Chip
az1 i am so jealous. im up to ten drops and no cramping or nausea yet lol. i guess its a good thing but i wanna experience what everyone else went through.
g4l thats a good ? about buying the crystals. im sure you can do a google search but the thing is would you trust it to be 10percent? you can always use lemon juice if you run out until you find more.
az1 i was laughing so hard at you- i ended up pouring my mms in first lol. but i caught it before damage happened.
packman- stores like treasure island (if in your area) or health food stores whole foods etc sell coconut oil. its like 20bucks a jar for the name brand but im sure its well worth it.
hey chip i think you may have misread. we still use lemon juice to activate the mms- five drops of lemon juice (or citric solution) to 1 drop of mms- what we were talking about is the juice you use AFTER you've combined mms and the citric activator. the poster wanted to know about using a lemon juice for that stage- not the previous stage.
UBE right . I misread it. THanks Techiegurl. I got a little too excited for nuttin. LOL
Techie, you had me laughing...I am a prime example of the aggressive use of MMS. So far going well today!!!! I don't know when I will be testing...I am kind of feeling what Lep is....undecided to when....next week will be my 45 day mark for Resolve. Maybe I will wait when I am done with the MMS....testing I am not as aggressive to do....mixed feelings on that.
Good nite everyone...happy thoughts!
Techiegirl: Thank you for the lemon juice, man its hard trying to find citric acid crystals in the stores. I was hoping that i could buy it at the store, i guess i will have to find an online store now. Anyone have any ideas?
GODFORLIFE - No, I forgot to get a spray bottle while I was at the market, but I'm getting one tomorrow. My body is still adjusting from getting too aggressive before. I don't feel ill, but I do feel a bit tired, so I've been taking it easy. I'm still at 15/2x, and I'll get the bottle tomorrow. I've been considering PACKMAN'S approach, and I like it. At 15/2x daily I am getting 30 drops per day, so it would make sense that if I start at 10/10/10 I could better acclimate my body to a 3x daily dose. I'm just waiting for the right time to try it. PS. Citric Acid is your ideal activator. I got my Citric Acid Crystals from this website: http://mmsmiracle.com/about/
AZ1 - YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
CANADA - I twisted my words. What I meant to say is that you can use fresh lemon juice to activate it, but too much will dilute it and make it ineffective. The water or juice you add later is to stabilize it. Apologies, I was a bit distracted when I wrote that earlier, lol. I'm glad you're not having any trouble dating. Sometimes I feel like I'll never date again, but I know better than to poke my lip out like that. I've not told anyone about my condition except my ex, and I try not to think about having to do that. I'm just trying to focus on the positive and let that lead the way.
CHIP - Please read above. Sorry, I was having a retarded moment!
ALL - So I'm still a bit tired doing the 15/2x, which tells me I need to stay put a bit longer, as I was feeling perfectly fine at this dosage before I got cocky. I reckon I will just continue the week at this level before trying PACKMAN'S approach (10/10/10), which I feel confident will work.
Hi!
Techie: I started 2 drops this am. For the first three days I did a test drop and on yesterday I did one drop in the am and one in the PM...today I'm @ 2. I'm trying to go slow to avoid problems. I may not make it to 15 drops for another three weeks pending that everythig goes well. Are you still using your alkalizing water drops? Can you post a link to what you purchased? Are you thinking about the truecures method?
PNJ: Is this going on your 4th week @ 15/2x drops? If so, that's great and you should be cured. Thanks for your help.
hey mel- I got my water drops from http://www.phionbalance.com/categories/Alkaline-Wa and yes im still doing it. mel theres no rush to get to 15drops slower the better so if it takes three weeks good deal. mms is still working even at the smaller doses.
pnj i also love the idea of 10/10/10 then work way up each day- but i will wait until i get to 15drops before i try that.
grateful you crack me up- you are like the rebellious teen. you aint taking no for an asnwer- youre getting to 15drops come hell or high water or both!. I love it though
az1 love the blog!
ALL - I guess Jim Humble's site is still down, but I was able to find the instructions to the topical application of MMS and will paste them here. I recall Jim mentioning that if the solution burns (like on an open wound, etc.), you can wash it off and reapply.
MMS TOPICAL APPLICATION
Skin eruptions: There are many problems of the skin usually causing sores or rashes. They could be poison oak or even cancer. Most should have MMS applied directly to them. The best way to do this is by spraying. The way I do this all the time is to use a 2 ounce spray bottle that makes a fine mist. I take an empty 2 ounce spray bottle and add 20 drops of MMS and 100 drops of 10% citric acid solution (you could use lemon juice filtered through a coffee filter). I wait the customary 3 minutes and then fill the bottle with water. (Could be distilled water, but then any clean water would do). This bottle of MMS will stay activated for 3 days. That’s because of the extra strong mixture.
Keep your spray bottle handy… I then use this to spray any sore, wound, or skin eruption that might occur. Outside the body requires a much strong solution. You can spray a sore up to once an hour. Allow the solution to dry on the body. It is the strongest and does the most good just before it dries. Also spray this on athletes feet and fungus on the feet. After it is dry the area can be rinsed off if you like. It’s not necessary. If the spray cause pain of burning then reduce the strength of the solution by pouring out 1/2 and filling with clean water. Keep reducing the strength in this manner until the spray does not cause burning, however, if this does not seem to work in a rare few cases it might be a fungus that MMS cannot touch. In that case, go the the home page and look under fungus protocol.
As I mentioned wounds should be sprayed as soon after they happen as possible. It will decrease the healing time by a great deal in most cases as microorganisms are mostly the cause of slow healing.
Techie: I will take that as a compliment....a rebellious teenager. Even though my name "grateful" is subdue...I am not actually...I just wanted to remind myself when I use it how grateful I am with all the hubs and hubbers! I guess I should of chosen the name "Spunky" I have been called that many times. Well back to MMS... this Sh@t is annoying! I swear I am having a hard time getting to those 15 drops. But...I am some to blame....again last night I took it with a slice of bread....that was not enough food for 13 drops. I "paid" for it this morning....to the bathroom a few times. I am determine now....it is like a challenge to me....here I come MMS!
pnj,
I haven't posted for awhile, but check the post frequently. I must say that the members have grown. I remember when you first started the hub with just a few people. It seems to be alot of positive people here.
Havent ordered my mms yet, just watching your post and progress.
Keep up the great work pnj!
Well, after backing down to 7 drops again last night, I'm back up to 8 this morning and it seems that 8 drops is my partial nemesis. It's not that bad really, but I'm wondering if I should drop back again to 7? What do you think PNJ? It's bearable, just getting mild cramping on and off in the tummy, feeling weird and a little bit dizzy at times, as well as the odd "cramp" on the left side of my neck and behind my left ear... weird! They were like "pow" pains.. lol, best way to describe it really, and they only lasted 2 or 3 seconds, but something is definately being zapped in there. lol. Hopefully it's oral H! Should I go back to 7 drops tonight, or stick with 8?
Techie - Glad you like my blog, ta! It's still a WIP though.
Grateful - Spunky eh? So show us your pics then and let us be the judge! LMAO
Godforlife - How did you go with 16 drops?
Melissa - How are you going so far, and how many drops are you up to now?
packman - How's it going so far for you?
well at 5 drops, i feel as if i am having predomal sysptoms again but there so mild compared to before i cant really tell. Been under alot of stress do to other issue's so who knows. NOthing to report elsewise other than i get that weird light headed feeling but im pushing through this. Be interested to know test results from those ahead of me and how everyone else does with mms and if there usual outbreak occur. Like i posted before my biggest concern is what Kim experienced no outbreaks for so long then BAM all hell broke loose. Well im going to try to maintain taking it with water rather than juice, hehe lovfe that pool water ya know
Hey peeps.
AZ1- not much to tell at this point. Still waiting for the MMS and pH strips to arrive. After reading one of PNJ's posts, I recognized the link and realized I did order my stuff from mmsmiracle.com (not the pH strips, tho). The OBs on my legs from a few weeks ago seem to be gone, there is just one left that popped up a few days ago which was the only one I noticed had any pain or itching. Its already healing.
I tried some coconut oil this morning, wasn't able to take a whole spoonful but I think the jar had been sitting in our cubboard for a long time and I read somewhere it should be refridgerated? Anyone else know if it matters? Anyways, I ordered some coconut oil supplements. I think taking a few pills per day will be easier for me. While I'm on the subject, can you apply coconut oil topically to an OB area? Like I said I'm new to this.
Well since most people don't report side effects unitl they get up to 8 drops, I may start right away when the MMS arrives as long as my pH levels aren't horrid. I'm a fairly healthy individual to begin with (sans the obvious) so if I start slow don't rush I think I can keep up the doses during the travel process. However, when I fly over to Asia it will be at least 16 hours in the air, and I think I'll have to go a full day without taking a dose. Does anyone know if the treatment will be affected by missing just one day in the early stages?
hey all- grateful plz take that as a compliment- you know we love our teens. I love your determination but i must say by the time you do get to 15drops 3x a day there wont be any more h left to fight LOL. you body has nothing left to expell so it rebels just teasing hon- you know i support your cause.
firerage so glad to see you coming along.
az1 one of the experienced mmsers could better answer. but if your body is telling you to back down- listen. if you think you can handle 8 go for it and see what happens.
im up to eleven drops today with no side effects what so ever. i really hope thats a good thing. i was expecting to feel something by now- but i did a detox before hand so maybe the detox is helping me. i would consider myself a healthy person so who knows. i said I was going to slow down but i wanna keep going. when my body tells me to slow down i guess i will obey.
guys you know i believe in a higher power- and this HP also has a sense of humor. Yesterday I was a bit whiny because I havent experienced the cramping- nausea side effects of mms and I was actually pouting a tad bit saying why come Im not having cramps yet (Im serious) and lo and behold around 5pm some 8 hours AFTER my mms dose- i got slight cramps. The funny thing is they were not MMS cramps (of course) there were the "special" cramps. im like a few days early for that so it was funny. guess the HP said you want cramps- ill give you cramps.
hey packman- it never fails as im composing my posts someone will post at same time and I will miss it and have to do an add on. :)
there is this guy in the youtube video the cancer survivor who tells how to mix mms. in the video he stated you COULD mix it with juice and it will last ten hours. Naturally thats not as effective as taking it right away but for your purposes since you dont wanna create a panic on the plane by mixing mms in the air- maybe you could mix it ahead of time and mix it with juice and take it several hours into the flight. Again this isnt the same strength as when you first mix it- but it will do some good and you wont have to miss an entire dose. just a thought.
AZ1- i am up to 16 drops now, YUCK! I had a slight stomach ache today, but it passed really quick. Today was my full day on 16 drops and i had the outbreak pains and had a small outbreak. I don't know what to expect out of MMS right now.
Firerage- you always make me laugh with your pool water jokes. YOu are the only person that i know that likes to take it with water, hahahaha.
PNJ- im getting my bottle tomorrow and going to start the topical applications. I found a place that sells citric acid crystals, THANK GOD! I meet a guy today, and my first thought that came to my head was what you said on New Years "I avoided men like the plague" hahaha I am not going to open up any type of dating right now at all until i can get myself in better shape mentally and emotionally.
All- i have noticed now that i am getting alot of pimples on my face when i started to take MMS, has anyone experienced this?
Techie - I'm thinking I might drop back to 7 tonight and go back up to 8 again in the morning. I can handle 8 no probs, but I don't want to rush it. I have a feeling it's going to take me some time to get to 15 drops. Argh!
fireage101 - Good stuff! 5 drops and you're getting padromal symptoms, which I think means your body, MMS and H are at war! That's good news... keep it going!
Godforlife - wow! 16 drops eh? And, still having pain, and finally an OB? I still think that your body, MMS and H are at war. I see it this way, MMS gets to everything through your bloodstream, and obviously it has gotten to H in your body and has woken it up..... and ultimately chasing it through your body. Now, it's up to your immune system to "pow" it! This is no easy feat for your immune system, which means it's pretty important that you get heaps of rest at this time and eat healthy. Your immune system needs all the help it can get from both MMS and you. Keep at it and you'll get that sucker sooner or later!
804 - Hey you, and thanks! It's funny you say that because I was thinking the same thing last weekend. I'm glad a few individuals from the other HUB think of this as a safe place to explore health options, but I'm especially glad (and pleasantly surprised) at how many newbies have popped on from various places in the world.
AZ1 - I would recommend that you either eat a bit more before you do 8 drops or drop down a bit to 7 for about a day or two. Your pains sound similar to what I used to get when I didn't eat enough.
FIRERAGE - I'm so glad your getting better. Outbreaks are not cute. I heard about Kim and was horrified. Do you know how she's doing?
PACKMAN - That sounds like a good plan, and I reckon you'll be able to manage that fine. While you don't want to stop your therapy in mid-cycle, missing a dose is not horrible. It's funny you bring it up because last night I actually missed my evening dose because I was late coming home. I've not experienced any negative results from this, but it could be because I've taken the higher dose for so long.
TECHIE - Consider yourself lucky. The point of taking it slow is so you can avoid the cramps and negative side effects. You're body and MMS works best when you're not having these side effects, so it's a good thing you're staying under the radar. PS. I would not recommend anyone follow the protocol for a cancer patient. The reason behind this is that a cancer patient may need to get MMS into their system at higher doses for a more prolonged period of time (and are more likely to experience adverse side effects at small doses). A healthy person is far better off sticking with the general protocol, as it has been shown to be the most potent, ideal and beneficial way.
GODFORLIFE - Indeed, lol. I suppose everyone's different in this regard, but I just couldn't find any benefit to dating anyone right now. I got work to do, you know? I do meet new people quite often, but I've definitely got a wall up. You know what I think is interesting is how many people think there is something wrong with a woman if she's not interested in dating. I believe the exact quote of someone not long ago was, "what a waste". That was probably one of the most insulting things I ever heard. At a time when I feel the most spiritually connected and in tuned, and well on the right path in my career, that someone would tell me I'm a waste because I'm not attached to or shagging a man was just a sad sad experience as a woman. PS. How long had you done 15 drops before you increased to 16?
Good evening, well i do believe now im having predomal symptoms but they are so much milder than before its almost weird. I started 6 drops this morning and now will up my dose to 3 times a day and hold steady at 15. I will keep you all informed. I usually stop at predomal and dont get a full blown breakout so i will let you all know.
pnjg unfortunately i do no t have an update on Kim i try not to visit the other board as its become a bashing session and full of negative thoughts.
godforlife
I decided water was the best method as the taste isnt all that bad, just chug it down. besides after some of the crap i drank in the past the lemon flavor gives the water a unique taste haha, well best of luck to everyone
Hey all, sorry its been a while. I FINALLY got over my cold sore, but it seems like another one popped up RIGHT as I was over the first one. This time though, I started treatment AS SOON as I noticed it. Not sure if it is just coming back or if i somehow spread it to the current location. shoot, it might just be a pimple from all the blistex I put on to keep my lips all silky smooth. It seems to be getting better though, knock on wood. But I have been taking my L-lysine (about 2000mg per day) and I was looking around the internet, and I came across some OTHER bit of information that I thought I should share and throw out there for the rest of you to look at with scrutiny and tell me if I am full of it or not....but, I read that acidophilus also helps in fighting cold sores (which I assume also helps with other forms of H). Anyway, you all can do a google search for 'acidophilus' and take it or leave it.
At any rate, I kinda stopped taking MMS for a few days (about 4), And with starting the new mms with the new and improved juice (thanks again PNJ) I noticed that it is more....potent. So I have started back on mms at about 7 drops per dose. Not sure if I need to reaccustom myself back to 15 drops per dose, but I should be back up to 15 dpd real soon. I did 7 drops not long ago and have had no adverse reactions. I know everyone says not to, but I think I will increase by 1drop per dose until i am back up to 15 drops.
I see a lot of new faces here......looks like you all have been breaking the first two rules of fight club.
FIRERAGE - I know what you mean about the other HUB. I can't even bear to pop in anymore. That sinking draining feeling just isn't worth it. I don't know how you can drink the higher doses with water. I've tried it when I've had to and the nausea was with me all day. I don't reckon that smell and taste (mostly the smell as you're drinking it) will ever leave me, lol!
PACKMAN - Do you feel anything after taking the Coconut Oil? I keep forgetting to buy it at the shop, but I did eat a fresh coconut last week and felt a huge surge of energy. I should also mention that was the first time I had ever eaten a fresh coconut, lol.
S74U - Let us know how it goes. I experienced the same thing when I changed my juice before, and I wound up having to take things very slow. But if you're feeling fine, I hope it works out. I recently attempted to do 15 drops 3x daily and had a horrible reaction (mostly diarrhea and nausea). The funny thing is, since I've gone back down to 15/2x daily I'm still having loose bowels and was feeling tired initially. I'm not sure if the sudden surge in MMS gave my body a shock and shook out more virus, but I've been waiting for things to settle a bit before trying 10/10/10. I will probably start this Sunday.
PNJ- I did 15 drops 3 times a day for a week. Now that i am up to 16 drops, i get light headed alot more now, and when i take it in the morning my stomach is upset, but i just deal with it.
AZ1- yeah i think you are right, i was sick for a while. I don't know what is going on. I am doing everything right, i have competely cut off my Vitamin C. I use prune juice, the gold seal one, citric acid, and i have completely avoided grease, and sugars. So I dont know, maybe i am doing something wrong. Hopefully now that i am feeling better MMS will start to kick in. I still can't believe that i am at 16 drops. I was thinking about going down to the William Hitt clinic and see what they can do for me there.
Firerage: you are a very brave soul to take MMS with water, i cough everytime i take it with prune juice. I commend you on doing that.
pnj28
Well to be honest i just smile after mixing my drops i add approx 1/2 cup of water and drink it down. I dont get over bothered with the taste. I used to go wine tasting and cheese tasting and had some horrible taste this isnt so bad, like i said the little water i put in combined with the lemon juice seems to be ok for me i will let you know as i get higher in the drops though. Im still trying to figure out why my body has always had predomal but stoped at that never actual blisters etc, guess i should be happy as maybe my numbers are low. I hope this knocks the sob out. How bout everyone else outbreaks compared to before, or are they non existant now.
Thanks for the info Techie.
AZ1: I did 3 drops today. Guess I will do 4 tomorrow....just depends on what I feel when I rise in the AM.....Thanks 4 asking
Hope everyone continues to do well..
Well, I'm not feeling too good today and not sure why. I dropped back to 7 drops last night and this morning, and still had mild tummy cramping. I'm also getting odd, mild cramping in other places too, and I'm extremely tired today. This tiredness is like nothing I've experienced before... I'm literally dragging my feet! Feel light headed and a bit depressed and out of touch too. Maybe my body and MMS is fighting something? Did you feel like this at all PNJ? And, I'm only on 7 drops! Argh! I suppose going to bed each night at 12pm to 1am, and being up at 6.30am doesn't help things huh? lol
GODFORLIFE - It sounds like you have a particularly aggressive strain, but I reckon you should keep at it. What's interesting, and related to what you're saying, is that when I over did it before and got those horrible symptoms, it seems to have done something to my system. I say that because I'm only just beginning to become used to 15/2x again. Today was the first day I felt normal taking that dose, which is why I didn't jump right into taking it 3x daily. Virus hides in crevices all over your body, so I do reckon some of us will need to keep at it a bit longer than others. I feel fairly certain that something positive has happened. Even with skipping a dose and being too aggressive at one stage, I have yet to experience any OB symptoms. On NYE when I skipped a dose, I got knee pain and a runny nose (followed by a cold). This time, I experienced nothing. I've decided to consider getting retested very soon.
FIRERAGE101 - I don't know what it is, but I get a watery mouth and gag reflex everytime I even imagine the taste, lol. It just dawned on me that the reason could have something to do with the fact that I'm using Citric Acid in stead of lemon juice. I'm sure the taste is a bit different, as it has less flavour. I've definitely noticed a significant health difference. I have not had an OB since the first week of December so thanks to MMS, I have not had an outbreak , nor any herpes symptoms in about 2 months now. I'm hoping I'm cleared.
MELISSA - Glad to see you're doing well. Going slow is great because you'll be less likely to experience any negative side effects later.
AZ1 - Yes indeed, I recall the brain fog all too well! I know it's annoying, but press through. It was easier for me to deal with because I'm not working and I have no children, so I feel for you! I promise it goes away. Your body is fighting right now, so you're going to feel tired. I felt that way less and less, and by the time I was used to 10 drops, I was doing great with more energy. My best advice to you would be to try to take naps and get some solid sleep. The naps really helped me a lot, and a cup of tea will not hurt you. Sometimes it was the only way I could pay attention, lol.
Hey everyone,
Well I got my MMS and pH strips in the mail today! It takes two days of testing to figure out your composite pH level, so I will begin that process tomrrow and let y'all know the results in a couple days. Then I will make the call if my body is ready to begin MMS treatment or not. Since I will begin traveling soon, if my pH levels are bad I might consider doing some sort of detox before starting the program. Airport security and regulations also concern me a bit (because of the chemicals, regardless of whether they are illegal or not) as I've seen harmless stuff confiscated from luggage for no reason. I might feel safer traveling with the kit if everything still has the original seal on it. Either way, I'm glad the stuff arrived and I'm getting excited to take the steps to beat this thing!
Wow, I was at the other hubs and it is a comfort to be here....no bickering! Still working my way back up to 15 dorps/3x/day. Should be there in about a week. Feeling much better with MMS...my body is doing well.
Everyone....positive thoughts for a positive day!!!!!!
PACKMAN - I'm glad they finally arrived! Hopefully, you won't be remembered in Asia as the farting American, lol!!! I'm no expert in airport security, but couldn't you simply put it in your checked luggage?
I've also been thinking quite a lot about pH therapy, and have an important question if anyone knows the answer. If a bad pH level contributes to disease and disease could lead to a bad pH level, would getting rid of the disease automatically lead to a better pH level? I will be trying pH treatment at some point, but my curiosity was perked when I began to wonder if MMS has already improved my pH level. I definitely notice a difference in the foods I crave and the activities I now prefer. I used to crave chocolate, snacks, and alcohol (though I still ate relatively healthy most of the time). Now I crave veggies, grains, and fruit, and cannot handle large amounts of alcohol. It isn't so much a difference in preferences you see, it's more a total difference in what my body wants. I bought my favourite ice-cream last week and I just realised I've not even opened it! this would have been an impossibility before.
GRATEFUL - I know what you mean. I thought about posting something earlier today on the other HUBS, but after having a look at some of the posts, I could already feel that negative "drain" moving throughout my body. That was my signal to come back home to MMS Lair, lol. I believe it's very important to maintain positive energy levels in your body for health, but especially so if you're trying to heal and rid yourself of disease. Those other HUBS do nothing but zap your energy and make you feel ill.
I will start my 10 drops 3x daily treatment this Sunday. Thankfully, I feel great again and am experiencing no negative side effects from 15 drops 2x daily. Let's hope the transition goes well.
ALL - So I don't know how anyone feels about Kabbalism, but I am a Kabbalist (no, not like Madonna). I get daily inspirational emails to meditate on, and I always find them so uncanny. Anyway, I found today's inspiration quite uplifting and relevant, and thought I would share it with all of you:
EVERY DAY'S DIAMONDS: When we look at our lives, we usually assess them in weeks, months, and years, but yet, in truth, we are meant to focus on days.
Kabbalists teach that a person is given an exact amount of days to live. Within each day there is a spark of Light that one is meant to perfect. The totality of all the work that is done in any given day, from restricting anger to sharing, goes into the perfection of the spark of Light of that day.
In the Bible, people lived for hundreds of years, but then life expectancy dropped. The kabbalists explain this with a parable. There was once a King who owned a diamond mine. After extracting the diamonds, he would give thousands of them at a time to local craftsmen, whose job it was to clean and perfect the stones over several months’ time. The only problem was that they never completed the work. In fact, some of the diamonds came back damaged. Therefore, the King set up a new method by which he gave each craftsman a smaller amount and less time to get the job done.
The same happened with humanity.
Initially, the Creator gave each person millions of sparks of Light, one corresponding to each day of life they were given. But although people lived for hundreds of years, they often did not perfect their sparks. In fact, they damaged them. Therefore, the Creator cut down the amount of sparks given to each person all at once.
We are not given 80, 100, or 120 years of life. We are given 29,200 days, 36,500 days, or 43,800 days, and within each one, we are meant to perfect a spark of Light. The spark we are meant to perfect today cannot be perfected tomorrow, just as the spark we could have perfected yesterday cannot be perfected today. Each day has its own unique work relating to a specific aspect of soul that needs purification and elevation.
The Kabbalists teach that at the end of every day, as we go to sleep, if we have perfected our spark, it is sent up into our spiritual bank where it remains to protect us and to give us Light and blessings. When a person succeeds in this work, often the Creator will give him even more sparks, which, of course, equals more days, months, and years of life. Naturally, the opposite holds true as well.
The most important understanding from all this is that we do not live weeks, months, and years; we live day by day. The work we have to accomplish today cannot be accomplished tomorrow.
This week, awaken within your consciousness an appreciation for the power and tremendous gift of every day. When you internalize this understanding, even if days do not start off the way you had hoped, you will not write them off and push things into tomorrow. You will realize that what you need to accomplish today you can only accomplish today, and know that as you are perfecting and sending up the sparks, you are not only creating an amazing bank of Light that flows down to you, but you are also earning more days and more sparks to perfect.
Wow, that was amazing PNJ. Thank you for those words of wisdom. Actually, I personally needed that today as I'm having a bit of a bad run and feeling down about things. I'll come good though! I really must learn to live for today and to not worry about tomorrow, as I always do! I'm robbing myself of my today's, and forever wishing for tomorrow, however when tomorrow comes, I'm wishing that away as well. Hmmm, there's a definite message in that.
I missed my MMS dose last night, I just felt too sick! I was bloated, nauseous, fatigued and the thought of any food at all made me feel sick. Not sure why, although my boy is covered in a mysterious rash at the moment that the Dr can't diasnose anything for apart from a possible viral rash. So, I'm dropping back to 6 drops this morning and going to see how I go. Not having a good run at the moment, but it'll come good, and still no padromal symptoms... yippee!
AZ1 - I love those messages they send me. They're always so uncanny and so relevant to my day. I was thinking I should start posting them here, as they seem to relate to all of us and our ups and downs, lol.
Don't worry about your dosages. I had trouble around that dosage also. The good news is you've found that golden spot, so you'll be able to track the virus leaving your system as your tolerance builds and builds. If I recall correctly, I did 6 or 7 drops for a few days before raising my dosage. Once I got into the higher dosages, I stopped increasing daily and started increasing every few days. It will benefit you to try this method, as it will help your energy increase more steadily and reduced that "bogged down" feeling. That's just waste overload.
Good evening
Well all is well im on 7 drops 3x a day and will go to 8 tommorow. I would like to say im not have prodomal symtops but i def am. Just not as bad as before, I wonder if mms is waking this thing up. This may sound weird but i wonder if the virus actually turn itself on when it feels the numbers are low. Almost like an animal will reproduce if it feels the species is threatned. How is everyone else doingAdam
sorry that last one got cut off early
Adam and eve lived a wonderful life yet only after eatng the poisnious fruit did things go array, i often feel as i was tempted and took a bite of forbidden fruit this thing is no fun, i could only imagine for those who have a much worse strain
PNJ- Yes I will definitely put the medication in my checked luggage, but even those are subject to random searches. My dad recently had his checked luggage search and they took out some stuff he made at a conference that wasn't dangerous in any way. I guess you're always at the mercy of the person checking your bag, and if they are having a bad day and see anything uncommon it could get yanked. That's why I feel it has a better chance of making the trip if the seal is still on.
Well I also forgot to mention that I was felt like crap this morning and have some sort of sickness coming on. I think it's something sinus related so hopefully I get over it quickly like usual. I was very curious after receiving the pH strips so I tested my urine and saliva this afternoon and both levels were really good! But the results could have been swayed by a number of factors. The information that came with the strips has you test your pH through both methods 3x a day at specific intervals for two days, then you plug in the numbers and do a little math to find your composite pH level. So I will do that starting tomorrow and hopefully the results will be the same. I remember reading on this hub and someone else was doing the pH thing, and they mentioned they were trying to get their level as high as possible (I can't remember who it is). Anyways, I read that raising your pH levels above 8 is actually NOT healthy, as it is a sign of the body being too alkaline and having to produce some sort of bad chemical to get it balanced again. I can't remember the whole scientific explaination but I believe this hubber's goal was to get it up to 9 or something, which is not good.
If anyone wants me to elaborate on the info I will check the literature again and write down what i read. I hope everyone is having a good day!
packman im so glad you got your stuff. please keep me posted on the ph period. i think traveling with mms in its packages could be a risk but hey were all living on the edge wish you luck.
az1 i am so sorry to hear of your struggles. like pnj always says slower is better you will get there. hows your diet? could something you be eating cause the reaction?
g4l 16drops wow. do you feel normal?
pnj yes being disease free can improve ph as your body can flush out acids better without having to worry about the acids becomming bathing grounds for disease. pnj im so excited youve decided to start workin on your ph. this will be a good test for you- because raising ph always disturbs H- so if you do this and you dont have any H activity then we all know what that means. pH is my thing- and just as youve been there for me with the mms im there for you.
firerage youre moving along i see wow. so tell me how are you increasing your drops? do you feel normal?
mel you doing ok with 4 drops?
well my update i was up to 13drops today. i cant beleive it either almost two weeks of mms. well still no negative side effects. i got hot immediatly- a little light headed. still spitting up mucus and nose is still running. gas aint going nowhere. idont have rhea stools- actually have a concern my stools are not regular at all. i dont have to go everyday but i feel like i have to go. im gonna take some fiber to get me going. so what ive realized today is i drink a lot of chamomile tea as i personally suffered from cramping issues. ive noticed i have little cramps on some days this week but nothing MAJOR. so i can only hope that means im doing good on mms and im taking it the right way.
hope i didnt miss anyone- if I did sorry.
Techiegirl
Well i was on 6 drops 2 times a day and started to do it 3 times a day. Like i said negative side effects arent really there other than some mild nose running. I have had prodmal symptoms which is weird as usually they were always on or around the 7'th like clock work began 3 days ago. I usually get about 5 days of burning itching then everything is done and gon. This time is a bit mildier than normal. I Hoping this is mms bringing it out of hiding and it trying to replicate while it can.
How does everyone else breakouts compare to before
this post is for the ladies sorry fellas.
so Im up to 13drops my evening dose caused me to feel like room was spinning- and i noticed cramping (slight) and the urge to go poop. the cramps are not a good sign for me as I am spotting and know my cycle will be here on Friday- so the cramping could be from MMS or from the PMS :) my question for the ladies is how do you handle mms when you have your normal cramping issues to deal with?
I am feeling my first major side effect tonight and the timing is perfect. I wanted to start on 15drops on Monday and just hover at 13-14 over the weekend. well my cycle will be starting on Friday- it usually lasts 3days so the cramping and icky pms stuff will be gone before monday. has anyone else stepped down or paused when encountering the cycle?
firerage told you we always seem to post at same time.
az1 i also forgot to mention that youre being tired is also a sign that your body is fighting off something. your immune system needs you to get plenty of rest in order to help the fight- so youre being tired is your bodies way of getting you to rest to restore your immune system. hope this helps.
Ultimate Herpes CureWorking to elminate herpesParasitesJanuary 8, 2009
In Hulda Clark’s book “The Cure for All Disease” she too is unable to cure herpes. She gives lots of methods for cleansing and zapping, but she is never able to cure herpes. This virus has been around for a very long time and it just doesn’t want to die. In the end she believes that herpes must infest a parasite inside the body and no amount of drugs or zapping can get into the parasite to kill the herpes virus. However, as these parasites die, they release a slew of virus back into our systems. So, even if we “cure” the virus within our systems we are eventually re-infected via the parasites.
Well, she just may be on to something. I recently discovered that my liver was full of Liver Fluke parasites
Liver Fluke
These parasites are about the size of a grain of rice and they live in your liver and feed off of bile.
I discovered them while doing a Hulda Clark Liver Cleanse/Flush. I didn’t know what they were except they were all the same size and shape. I believe I picked these up in Asia during a trip in May. Which coincides with my continuous outbreaks beginning in July. I imagine these are all loaded with herpes and when they would die they would release lots of virus back into my system. I also thought the constant outbreaks might relate to my use of MMS, which was probably killing these parasites. However, since these things can lay 4,000 eggs a day I don’t believe the MMS was getting them all.
I am now in the middle of a parasite cleanse:
Paragone
During the first week I had about 100+ of these things coming out of me each day. I am now down to killing the eggs for the next few weeks. My outbreaks are way down which I have attributed to baking soda, which has helped stop many of the outbreaks that would have been caused by the dying parasites.
techiegirl
well i think you may be right as each time i check the board you have posted, haha
Well i just did a 4'th dose tonight so either im going to wake up feeling better and these symptoms are going to be gone or im going to feel like hell, i dunno yet i'll def let you all know.
Chip
Parasites i wish you the bets of luck on that, i firmly beleive that this can be cured and the reason its hard is the body normal cells when infected by ceartain viruses becomes coated with a lip fat, the inner flips to the outside. Thsi in return inhibits the bodies normal immune reaction to the viral cell, same as aids, hiv, chcikenpox, and hep. When this coating is removed the body has the ability to fight this off far better than before. Of course MMS does not remove this coating as im aware but the normal immne system does work hard at killing the virus just nto quick enough. So mms helps by atacking what the body can not. Look into Bavituximab it looks promising i posted it on the other board but wasnt happy with the board and tried this (mms instead) Bavituximab is in expiermental stages and has show great promise. Altough i think MMS may very well be what helps us. Most poeple on this board have stopped expieriencing outbreaks hopefully its not supressing it but killing it, i guess when the test results start coming in we will know
I started 5 drops this AM so far I'm ok but I can notice the taste in my juice now. It's not strong but I can taste the difference.
Well I did my first day of pH testing, will conclude the composite test tomorrow. According to the chart I am following, my average weighted pH for today is 6.4, which is pretty good. A little bit acidic, but nothing that can't be corrected with a few minor changes in diet. The optimal level is somwhere between 6.75-7.25.
I don't think I will drop the big money on a full body cleanse or anything, but I may order the pH water purification drops because I do drink a lot of water already and I think a few weeks of drinking water with a much higher pH level might put me in the range I want to be at. I'll give y'all an update tomorrow and post the procedure I am following if anyone wants to try it.
packman-just as an alternative, I bought trace minerals, which are basically salt water, minus the salt. The minerals, and a fiew diet changes have changed my ph from 6.0 to 7.5+ The trace minerals will raise the ph of your tap water to 8.2 for a time. It's a 2 oz. bottle for just 16 dollars. I use 5 drops in 16 oz. of water and there are 960 drops in a bottle. That's almost 200 glasses of water. And you don't have to pay shipping on the trace minerals, if you have a health food store in the area. If you have found a cheaper version of water purification, please tell me. I am a bargain shopper.
hi yal- well today i got BIOTCH slapped- dropped kicked- then spit on. The old saying be careful what you wish for as you just might get it is true- I hit 14drops today and man it beat the HSV outta me forreal. Part of it was my own doing- as i skimmed my breakfast i had two tablespoons of grits when i usually do 3-4. (no reason today just didnt throw the extra scoop in the pot) plus I got sick of apples so i decided to not eat any apples with my MMS. so i got cramps but not too bad jus noticable ones. Then i got the worst feeling in my tummy- felt like I had motion sickness. I was so nauseous that I wanted to stick my finder down my throat to make myself throw (no offense to anyone who has that disorder). I made it to work today in record time- I was literally doing 70 trying to get to some more food and some chamomile tea and a restroom! i made it to work without incident but did almost get into a few brawls as people in front of me were moving 5mph on a side street looking for parking. I am fine now- it didnt last I got to work ate a bunch of fruit- and drunk my tea. that tea is a miracle worker in and of itself because soon as i got the chamomile in me order was restored today.
I have learned my lesson- and I dont want to experience the "negative sideeffects anymore" and you guys aint ven gotta ask oh yeah im backing down tonight and tomorrow will be back at 13- will try 14 again on sunday with enough food.
Heyy MMS family! I hope everyone is slowly getting cured! :D and all is well... I am on my 9 drops now and I've been drinking it with water.. but the taste is unbareable!! its tastes like bleech!!... is there anything I can dilute the mixture with without it tasting so horrible? I used a splash of cranberry a couple times but I'm not sure if I should do that or not.. ..
I was not the source of my information. it was an exerpt from Hulda Clark, It mentions parasite infestation, much like truecures. That is why I posted it as how ironic she mentioned MMS also. How odd that was as I believed she died a couple years ago.
Chip
Nancy,
Be careful you don't want your pH level going above 7.5! The key is to keep it in a health range which is as close to 7 as possible (somewhere between 6.75-7.25).
This is what my literature says about being too alkaline in the 7.5-9.0 range:
"While it is not very common, you can actually become too alkaline. lso, when your urinary readings are higher than 7.5, it actually indicates severe acidity. In this case, your kidneys may be producing ammonia (which is alkaline) in order to buffer acids, thus the high pH reading is a false positive. This emergency mechanism of buffering with ammonia is deployed because your body lacks the basic mineral buffers that are used to neutralize acids."
So I would be careful about shooting for the moon with the pH levels, balance is the key. Thanks for the note about trace minerals though, that sounds easier and less expensive than getting the water treatment drops, and since I usually drink my water from 16 oz. bottles I can just follow your method.
good evening well i went to eight drops today and holy crap, talk about nausicious and sudden bathroom urges, either i knocked the crap out of something or it knocked it out of me. I hope its my body trhowing this h out and not me poisning my body to being sick. Im going to push throught this though, btw i decided this morning im going to look for juice or something i got to 8 drops on water but now it's getting bad. i know ive asked about half a dozen times but n e one experiencing outbreaks when on this, when they normally would of.
Techigirl sure your about to post something as your usually not to far behind or in front of post, good day to you
Techiegurl Wow some reaction. I was on 15 drops within 1 afew days after starting and yesterday as an example I forgot to eat something before I took it. Boy oh boy I will not make that mistake again. All day long I felt like hell so now it is eat first and then take stuff but I sympathize as I know the feeling.
Chip
Hey all- i am still at 16 drops and i have a friend who is on 20 drops. Unfortunately we both have very bad strains of the the virus so we have to use another method with MMS. I just got off the phone with Dennis Richards(who is Jim Humbles close friend) workers and he recommended that we take Molecular Silver with MMS for two weeks. So i am ordering mine today and I am praying that this will help us out. I just wanted to let everyone know. Hopefully ya'll don't have the really bad strain like my friend and I have. I will keep ya'll posted on our progress.
Hey godforlife,
If you pick up some of that molecular silver will you let the rest of us know where you got it? I did a quick search and most of the results were for colloidal silver but I couldn't find anything on molecular silver. Also let us know how it goes, of course. Good luck!
hey minnie- cranberry juice is FULL of vitamin C so i would avoid that if possible.
packman- hey I posted that same info from Dr Chris Vassey about pH on my hub for another poster. its important to note high ph CAN be a problem but its not always a problem. I dont know if Nan has been posting her history here or on the other hub but NAN is totally alkaline no question about it lol so her high ph is more likely to be all alkaline. its dangerous for someones pH to be that high if they are not following an alkaline diet. I hope this makes sense.
firerage not today i had some business to take care of so i wasnt home but we probably would have crossed posts- maybe even now were cross posting. hehe so at the risk of sounding like pnj how fast did you get up to 8drops? were you taking it slow or taking it fast to see what your body could handle?
chip/firerage yeah them symptoms are no joke. if this is what grateful and az1 are/were going through oh my goodness my heart goes out to them. i am so glad i found tea to help settle my stomach and I will be eating a heck of a lot more whether it be alkaline or acidic because i will not endure that mess ever again on mms.
g4l i was taking collodial silver so plz let us know abot this m silver.
az1-grateful-mel-pnj how you guys doing?
so pnj 28 when u put the mms active solution on the lession or herpes did it help with ur outbreaks or not??
Hey all, well I'm still on 6 drops today, and I've been feeling very tired since trying 8 drops 3 days ago. Something has definately happened as I now have mild padromal symptoms and have felt like I'm coming down with something for a few days now. I'm not sure whether it's MMS knocking out H, or whether it's the old ovulation OB that I used to get in the early days and pre Lysine days. I haven't been taking Lysine since taking MMS, so not sure either way. Anyhow, getting plenty of rest today and will see what happens in the next couple of days.
Techie - can't believe you're on 14 drops! I struggled at 7 and 8!
Godforlife - Sorry to hear you're having such a hard time with H. Hopefully help from molecular silver will do the job!
well i started at 1 and worked up to 8 in the course of a week, im going to stay at 8 tommorow and continue up to 9 the following day. ive had the predomal sysmptoms now for approx 3 days and if pattern is like usual will have it for bout 2 more then thats all she blows, hoepfully the mms awoke this and is killing it off.
OMGGG thanks Techiegurl I had a feeling I shouldn't be drinking it with that.. but OMG the tase is unbareable!! YUCKKKK
Here is the site to order the molecular silver from:
http://mmsdr.com/index.php?page=moleculasilver
I was talking to my friend and he said that collidal silver seems stronger than molecular silver. I have to call my friend who is an expert in all this to see what he recommends that i take. I was told to take the molecular silver on an empty stomach 2 tablespoons a day. One in the morning and the other at night for 2 weeks. If you do this regime you have to have done MMS for 2 weeks prior to starting. And you would have to leave a 20 min gap before you take MMS. Luckily now i am used to taking MMS on an empty stomach, so i will see how it goes. I will update ya'll with any information that i get.
Firerage- i get predomal symptoms just about everyday. Sometimes i get some burning down there, but i usually get leg pains on a daily basis. Hopefully your symptoms will go away. I don't want you to go through what i go through everyday.
AZ1- i always love your positive comments. I am hoping that molecular or collidal silver will take care of it. I am experimenting first and if it works then my friend is going to do it as well, and i will tell everyone here what i did and for how long.
Techiegirl- i will defiantly let you know. Im hoping that i can get ahold of my friend tomorrow to see what he recommends on which is better.
hey all- well i was very tired yesterday and i ended up going to bed without taking my nightly dose of mms. it was funny i ate very acidic last night thin slice of cheese pizza i wanted to make sure i was full enough-- ended up burning the pizza- then fell asleep woke up at like 3am but decidied it was too close to my morning dose so id skip.
az1 i know 14drops is intense but i do plan to stay at 15drops for the month of february (28 days or so) then spend a week or two in march trying 3x a day. the mms that has been in my system has been doing something these pimples are driving me crazy- they dont hurt or anything just knowing they are there is mental. however they come and they go- then more come back. im not gonna interfere by trying to clear them up with another product ill just let them be for now.
i dont know if what works for me will work for others but you can try it- try to get some chamomile tea- it will make you very relaxed but az1 and others it may do some good.
minnie you should go to whole foods- or a name brand grocery store and do some juice hunting. you can use apple juice- others are using prune juice or carrot juice. you have to look at the ingrediants on the bottle and find some that has no vit c in it- becareful because some apple juice is loaded with vitc added after so you really have to look and do a little research. for me i found the juices in the cooler had a lot of extras in them probably to keep them safe whole being cold- so i just look at the juices on the shelf.
Wow, there were a lot of comments to sift through. I hope I don't miss anyone.
TECHIE - No, I did not alter my treatment according to my menstral cycle. Things sort of balanced themselves out. I generally get cramps the first day of my period, but taking MMS did not make it any more or less unbearable. Generally speaking, MMS did help with Premenstral Tention though. Your post about side effects gave me a chuckle. Indeed, be careful what you wish for, lol! I never experienced much acne, but I do recall having "bumps" on my back, which are now gone along with a rash I had on my thigh that never seemed to go away. I'm convinced that the rash was herpes related, and the bumps on my back were just toxins being expelled.
CHIP - I've heard that parasite theory someplace before in regards to herpes, but I've never really quite understood it. Personally, I believe MMS is perfectly capable of killing it, as it does kill parasites. Many people on MMS therapy have documented seeing parasites in their poo. The important thing to remember about herpes, like with all viruses, is that not everyone has the same strain. I believe the difficulty in curing some individuals will depend on how aggressive their strain. Also, by applying MMS topically, you drastically increase it's potential. For some this is not a necessary step, but therapy needs to be tailored for each person. The key is sticking to the therapy at higher doses long enough for MMS to do it's job. Combined with the immune system, I do not personally believe anything can "escape", and given how MMS works, it cannot be a suppressant, as it destroys on contact (lipid coating or not).
MINNIE - Did you read the mixing instructions? You can drink MMS with juice or water, but the juice needs to be 100% juice with NO vitamin c, absorbic acid, citric acid, or sodium citrate. Since cranberry juice almost certainly contains one or all of these ingredients, it's probable that you've been diluting your solution. Avoid fancy juices and just get 100% apple or carrot juice. Pomogranite or prune juice works well also, but it needs to be 100% juice and nothing else.
FIRERAGE101 - You can rest assured that you are not poisoning your body. What tells you this is the fact that your tolerance is building. A perfectly healthy person would have no reaction at all at the optimum dose.
GODFORLIFE - That's quite interesting. Did he mention what the Molecular Silver does exactly? Why is your friend taking such a high dose? Cheers for the site information!
NATE - Well I've been outbreak free for about 2 months now, so technically there was no reason for me to start the topical application. I simply wanted to take a more aggressive approach to ensure herpes was out of my system before going to my maintenance dose and getting retested. The topical application doesn't burn, I should mention. As a matter of fact, I don't feel anything at all. I spray the general area, but to apply it to specific areas, I've been spraying a Q-tip and applying it that way. I will include the topical application instructions up top of this HUB, as I seem to get asked about this quite a lot.
AZ1 - Your symptoms mirror how I was so uncannily. Herpes is still in your system so just keep at it. The tired feeling is normal and will become less and less. Although the last outbreak I had was during my first week of taking MMS, it also coincided with my menstral cycle, so I believe what you're feeling is just herpes attempting to erupt. Remember, MMS is not a suppressant, so it won't stop herpes from doing what it normally does, it will simply kill it. As long as there is herpes in your system, it will act like herpes, which is why it is so important not to stop treatment and allow it to again grow in numbers.
ALL - I have now included the topical application and mixing instructions for MMS on the HUB. Hopefully, this will help anyone who still has questions.
Doing better on MMS....but I have an OB, first one since October. I get OB's every 3-4 months so it is on schedule....I went through Resolve and my 45 days is Monday....I am not going to test now...I feel like it would be wasting money...so I will tested later. Tomorrow I will be up to the 15 drops/3x/daily...it took a month to get this point. Not giving up yet!!!
We have good news from Yoda/Paul from the original hub...he tested negative....he went through the Resolve program...I do not have the details of other things he might of tried....but congrats to Yoda/Paul!!!
Hope everyone is doing fine!!!!
Techie- I am trying to find breakfast foods to eat since Im not a breakfast person my self. I notice you sometimes eat grits. what kind do you get? I have a box of the instint grits but I notice they have citric acid in there. Im not feeling the apple to much anymore.
Im at 7 drops I tried 8 the other day but got nauseous so I went back to 7 yesterday i might try the 8 today we will see.
GRATEFUL - That's wonderful news!!!
DONTKNOWY - I could be wrong on this, but I think a small amount of Citric Acid in your food is ok. Keeping in mind that you won't be consuming this food at the time of your dosage (you would be taking MMS 15 - 30 mins after eating), it should not dilute your solution. Again, this has more to do with quantities, so you wouldn't want to drink a glass of OJ or lemonade before taking your MMS, but if you happened to eat a sandwich, which happened to have a bit of spread on it that contained Citric Acid, you should be fine. I'm going to check on this though, as I wonder how important this is. And TECH, I wonder if this explains why you've not experienced any effects until recently.
thanks pnj... I wonder if it says sorbic acid is that like absorbic acid?
DONTKNOWY - No Sorbic Acid (a salt or acid that preserves food) is not the same as Absorbic Acid (Vitamin C).
pnj you know my heart dropped when I read that- dky I use the Quaker Old Fashioned grits. Theres too much extra stuff added to the instant ones. The instant ones do have the citric acid added but ive combed the web and couldnt see that ingrediant in the old fashioned one. I dont have the canister anyl onger i pour my grains in tupperware but ill be going to the store later today to triple check.
man pnj i am now paranoid. citric acid is in a lot of foods. i feel like im gonna spend the rest of the day making a check list of foods to avoid etc. i do think youre right small amounts in food- cuz its in fruits and veggies. we'd be screwed. im been looking online and looks like the old fashioned grits are safe from citric acid but man this make a person feel down. Im glad i blog everything i eat so ill be going back and spot checking it.
dky- old fashioned oatmeal may be my next morning thing. Even though my grits appear to be safe I am too scared to continue eating them now.
TECHIE - Me too. I had an "aha moment" and wondered if it was the missing link for you. However, I haven't found much information in regards to food being that critical. I suppose if we should avoid Vitamin C for at least 2 hours before and after taking MMS, it makes sense that we should keep the other ingredients to a minimal in our foods also. I'll let you know if I find anything specific, and I'll also see if there's any mention of it in past treatments. I can tell you I didn't change my foods that drastically when I started MMS and it never seemed to interfere with it's effectiveness.
thanks pnj thanks- i ate a small amount of grits this am about the same as yesterday due to them being over cooked and i only got the top of the pot :) i backed down to 13drops and i was ok. so im really hoping it wasnt the grits but ill be switching to oatmeal for sure. I just started using grits at like 11 drops so if I have to redo any steps it wont be a whole lot.
TECHIE - I generally eat oatmeal and fruit in the morning, but from time to time I will have cold cereal (almost all of which contain some level of Citric Acid or Vitamin C). It did not appear to interfere with the effectiveness of MMS, keeping in mind that I did make sure there was as little Citric Acid and Vitamin C as possible. I also wanted to point out that apples contain a small amount of Vitamin C (it varies by type), so I'm sure we're in the clear as long as we don't go crazy and keep the quantities in check. I reckon as long as the amounts are incidental and small, we're fine. What you don't want to do, for example, is put globs of dressing that contains high amounts of Citric Acid or lemon, etc. on your salad or bite into an orange.
Wow, that is great for Yoda/Paul! I hope someday soon we can read about our first hubber to test negative through MMS, it will instill so much hope in all of us. That, and I really don't want to do the resolve treatment at all. I have a very hard time believing that it works. But nothing negative, it just makes me think that we are closer and closer to a cure!
Well I've finished the pH testing and am fairly pleased that my composite pH level is somewhere between 6.3-6.5. I'm just a little bit in the acidic zone and it shouldn't take much to get it up to 7 and maintain that level. I ordered the trace minerals to improve my drinking water and with that, I think a few very minor changes in diet will be enough to get me ready for the next step (MMS!). The best part is, all these treatment methods I've intvested in are completely affordable even for me.
Also just wanted to say I hope you all are doing great with your treatment and have a great weekend! I'm excited to begin this thing along with you all, but also glad that I have this hub to work out some of the minor (but important) details in the process. I can't imagine working my way up and then realizing three weeks in I was compromising the process. Good luck!
PACKMAN - We had a discussion not long ago about Resolve, and it's major flaw is that all it really does is include and combine various methods created by other entities, call it their own, and charge A LOT more for it. pH therapy will be effective for some, and for others it won't matter. MMS will work, but you need to maintain a certain level of concentration in your system. pH therapy combined with MMS can only be good, but again, it needs to be done right, and some will need to get more aggressive than others.
Resolve's approach is a one-size-fits-all approach to a virus that is different for everyone. Add to this, they are "prescribing" treatment that they do not fully understand, and you have a disaster waiting to happen. We're also fairly convinced that they use Arginine to "draw out" the virus, which is not only completely unnecessary (and only done to make the person believe it's "working") but dangerous for someone with a compromised immune system.
Many individuals who are on Resolve have no idea, for example that their Step 3 creates Chlorine Dioxide (which is the active ingredient MMS creates) and they should be avoiding certain ingredients and Vitamin C. They don't know this because Resolve does not know this because they don't understand the technology they've basically stolen (as with the pH pills they use). The bottom line is some of them will get cured, and some won't. Likewise, without a thorough cleanse, herpes can easily return at some stage as whatever virus is left over will simply replicate. Maintenance should be done to ensure your blood stays clean, making it harder for parasites to attack in the future.
I don't mean to sound paranoid, but when thinking about the possibility of dating in the future, it's crossed my mind that along with blood tests, I may want to consider suggesting MMS therapy. There are just so many "nasties" floating around in this sex-crazed society that I feel overwhelmed at the possibility of being intimate with someone again.
I went to walmart today I checked for the grits but didnt see them I just saw the oats and they were fine so the grits might be finc, also. The internet ingredients didnt show it, but if you look up the instant pack it shows the citric acid. I think that was accurate. I ended up getting some instant oatmeal since they didnt have the citric acid. I didnt mean to scare you.
pnj- yes indeed I diddo all that stuff you just said. I would consider AK and seeing the TrueCures guy before doing the resolve thing. I understand the logic of how it has worked for some but certainly not all. Above all I cannot trust it, because unlike other cures they are charges out the A$$ and do not disclose all the ingredients, which sounds just like FDA AMA can't-trust-the-doctors BULL(dirty word). It's not my perrogitave to go on other hubs and try to discredit or steal hope from people, but I just see no way I could put myself through that.
With that said, I am seriously considering starting my MMS treatment this Monday instead of waiting until after I have traveled and settled in Aisa. I was in church tonight and really couldn't find any words to express my thoughts, so I just remained open and told God i was listening. I got this feeling that it was just time to start. If for some reason it gets taken out of my checked luggage, I guess I will just find a way to get some over there or get it shipped to me. All in all it would still cost less than purchasing the resolve treatment.
Tomorrow I'm going to enjoy the Superbowl, have a few beers and pig out on some tasty food because i've been really good with my diet and food choices lately. One last hurrah before taking a BIG step in my life and finally doing something to confront my condition. Wish me luck, as I wish all of you the best. God bless
PNJ- its give MMS a power boost. Im waiting for it to come in then i will let ya'll know how it goes. As for now i am still on 16 drops and prolly going up to 17 tonight.
I got a hold of my friend and he said the Molecular Silver is alot stronger then collidal silver.
PACKMAN - I'm a firm believer in that old biblical saying, you know a tree by it's fruits. I made my final decision about Resolve after reading about how they've been treating their "customers". MMS was a Godsend to me. I certainly wish you all the luck in the world, and you are right, there's no better time than the present.
GODFORLIFE - That's great. I look forward to hearing how it goes with you, and perhaps I'll try some.
I'm just finishing my evening dose. I'm on 6 drops. I need to wake up earlier so that my evening dose is not so late. I'm on Eastern time. So far, I haven't ran into any effects. I pray that it stays this way.
PAUL if you are reading CONGRATS!!! I enjoyed reading your posts.
Hello everyone, my padrome quickly turned into an OB in the afternoon, which is the quickest turnaround time from padrome to OB that I've ever had. Usually the padrome lasts 2 or 3 days before I get an OB. I just had to take Lysine last night as you know that feeling of an OB... argh! Anyhow, up to 7 drops this morning and 3 hours later, tummy cramping. It's not unbearable, but it's quite bad. I didn't have this response when I got up to 7 drops before, but I know this is because I have an OB at the moment and MMS is doing its stuff. The padrome has gone today and the OB itself was itchy last night, but the itch has pretty much gone today. In fact, it's only when I sit down or irritate it, that I even know it's there! Which means the sucker is dieing! And, without any creams, remedies or vitamins! Die sucker! LOL. I'm really, really tired today too and the fatigue is unbelievable, but again, I know its MMS doing it's work. I have a feeling that 8 drops was my nemesis, as I had a few weird cramps in weird areas, and then the next day I was history and had to sleep in the afternoon. It wasn't until 2 days later that I got the padrome, and I reckon I shouldn't have missed a dose the other night when I felt too sick to have it.
So, should I stick to 7 drops with these cramps? Or should I back down again to 6? Argh, I'll never get to 15 drops at this rate! is this good or bad that I'm having this trouble so early PNJ?? And does it mean I have a bad strain? I hope not! It's only HSV1, although I've had it orally since childhood. Genitally, I've only had it 18 months... argh, I hate this feeling! But I'm sticking with it and I love, LOVE that MMS is killing this sucker off!
Godforlife - wow! 17 drops soon? Good luck with the M/Silver... I truly do believe that you're at the peak of something "breaking", and once it does, you'll be free!
az1 sorry to hear about the outbreak, ive been pretty fortunate so far as just the same itching a burning, no blisters'"(knock on wood) going to start taking monolaurin with mms obviously spacing out the two in hope to better comabt this crap
i havent read all the posts yet- but i will do that.
just wanted to check in real quick. the grits saga was really bothering me so I had to know if it was the grits or not. so I made some grits this am-more than my usual serving and tried 14drops again and it aint the grits. I feel like im getting sick. i got my tea boiling already so soon as it comes I am ready to handle it. I am starting to feel the same way- sweating right after taking it and feeling like i gotta go to the bathroom. its safe for me say that 13 is where i need to be a few more days.
Started 7 drops this AM and it is getting yuckier with each drop. Thankful I have not experienced any side effects yet. I hope this continues and I hope it works!! Instead of gulping, I tend to drink it over a 30 minute period. I hope this is ok. On the first 5 drops I would just drink it down fast but now it's better to sip it because of the taste.
All- has anyone experienced a strange sensation in the fore head and numbness of the arm? Im getting these alot lately.
LOL godforlife. I'm gettin all sorts of "strange" things happening to me too! Numbness, aches and pains, tingling, "weirdness", and I've been feeling detached from my body too! Weird I know. But you know, I don't think Drs really understand the capabilities of Herpes and how it affects our bodies. I personally think H is responsible for many, many ailments in the human body that we tend to put down to ageing and being unhealthy. I'm actually counting my blessings with this recent OB as it has opened my eyes to the possibilities of MMS and how it's actually working on removing pathogens from my system. Stick with it, you're doing well, and we can all be "weird" and get "weird" sensations together! lol
Not a good day yesterday. Took MMS on little food and all day long...well in the bathroom....I know better...so I missed two doses yesterday of MMS. And the last few days I could feel an OB coming on and yesterday it fully arrived with sore glands and all. I have not had an OB since October, before Resolve, before MMS...I thought I was going to win this war...but this seems more than than psuedo OB that Resolve was suggesting. I thought for sure the MMS was killing off the rest of H. Tomorrow would be my 45 day after Resolve but I am not going to test until later....I think it would be a waste of money since I have an OB right now. The H breakout is just like a regular one...so what's next? Been kind of depress about this, but will try to continue to do MMS. I hope to be among the lucky negative people....perhaps I will someday.
az1- omg you got an ob? could help explain why you were having such a rough time. let us know what you decided to do. you know your body so you know if staying where you are is what needs to be done.
mel what i do is just drink it nonstop and i cant taste it till the very end. then i chase that with a small amount of juice. i have to let the juice warm up a little bit first cuz if i take it straight- i get a freeze headache.
grateful- keep with the mms. youve had a hard time keeping up with it-what are your current drops? did you make it to 15three times a day? i last recall you were trying 10 3x a day. plz dont get depressed this is a FIGHT and that means its two sided. you fight H and of course H fights back. you just gotta keep in your mind that you will win this fight.
Thanks Techie for the encouragement. I am taking 14-15 drops 3x/day. I won't give up but after 20 years of H it does at times get depressing. Thanks again!
Grateful - It sounds like you went through something similar to me. I started having probs at 8 drops, so dropped back to 7, and then had more probs, so missed a dose one night. I was feeling tired, drained and nauseous and couldn't face another dose. 2 days later, after dropping back to 6 drops, I got padromal symptoms, and then an OB. This OB is the biggest I've had in a while, however the discomfort of it has been almost nil after 1 day. It's clearing the quickest an OB has ever healed and I'm able to stomach 7 drops today without cramps. This conincides with the fact that the OB is pretty much dead, is no longer itchy and is healing. This tells me that MMS has killed it off (and hopefully its host), and I can now get back into the business of raising my drops every couple of days. Maybe, as an OB is about to occur (well before we get symptoms), MMS gets in and fights those suckers, which in turn knocks our immune system around. I think it is at this very crucial point, that we mustn't miss a dose, no matter how sick or icky we're feeling. By missing a dose, we're allowing H to win the battle. I also think that the longer you have H, the more replication has occurred in the body, thus there are H clones living in many nooks and crannies. This would be no easy task to rid the body of ALL traces. We are all different, and I guess we have to believe the motto that Rome wasn't built in a day. Stick with it grateful, and I know you will win this battle!
Techie - Yeh, an OB, argh! But you know, it hasn't been that bad. The lead up to it was worse, but very much short lived. I've discovered something very valuable too. This OB occurs on the right side of the vaginal opening (sorry for intimate details, but hell, we all get it!), however this time, I honed in on where the host is hiding for this sucker! It's actually somewhere up high, in front of, behind or inside the right ovary. Or maybe, it attacks that area too, because I had pain in that area during the padrome and OB, and whilst MMS was doing its thing, however now it's gone! Very interesting!
Good evening to everyone, well i'll report what i learned today and how im doing. I wish everyone the best, i do believe as we kill this sucker off the virus will try and replicate to save itself. This we need to be strong on. Well i decided im going to order monolauric acid tonight and take that in conjuction with mms> Im currenlty at 9 drops and found the taking applejuice (treetop brand) no additives etc maskt he taste nicely. I got to 8 with water and finnaly had to switch it out. I think some fo the reactions we are getting numbness etc is what is referred to as the herxheimer reaction. As far as myself still having prodomial im convinced the full force of my outbreaks are burning itching discomfort, ive been pretty fortunate as i dont seem to get the blisters which is a blessing, i feel horrible for those who do. The worst of this is the girl im convinced gave this to me doesnt beleive me as she had a pap smear two months prior and insists they checked her and she's clean, but i dont really know. 2 weeks after i slept with her i got this wonderful gift that keeps on giving. I do firmly believe if mms isnt the answer we as a whole can find one.
hey all- i agree with firerage the virus knows its being attacked and of course is going to fight. Keep in mind the lifecycle of a virus is 28days so if we can do 28days of 15drops we should have a BETTER chance in fighting the virus. Now as you all know both PNj and myself beleive that resolve step3 is MMS-in some form. Resolve works on a small very of the people who take it- but that means if Resolve is working MMS is working so we jsut have to keep it up. Each of us is different and MMS doesnt only target H- it also attacks other ailments so we have to be patient and wait until its done.
firerage- since ive contracted this virus i had 2 kids and plenty of doctors appointments and blood tests. I can assure you not one single medical doctor told me I had hsv and Ive been through a lot of blood work. being pregnant youre screening for ALMOST everything. It just goes to show how common it is and people dont test for it. I even went to a STD clinic once and they still didnt test me for it. When I first got it I had an ob on my rear which was bloody-itchy-and fileld with puss. I went to the doctor- had them SWAB it- they ran the results and came back and told me I didnt have H. the only way I found out I had H was I waited a few months and went to TSTD. So in terms of the girl who gave it to you- I beleive you have to REQUEST the test- its not standard as the medical profession assume 90% of people have it. on the flipside- its a very emotional thing and a lot of people are in denial about it. they fear judgment just like we do. No one wants anyone to know they have it- let alone they were the cause someone else has it. so people sweep it under the rug and live in denial.
so let me tell you guys about my update. I feel like I was a tad bit foolish and I will take the see I told you so's and tech you know better as they may come. :)
I was doing 13drop this weekend and planend to do it until tuesday then try 14 again. well last night i fell asleep and missed my evening dose (again) I woke up at 2am and immediatly ran to the kitchen to make my dose. I did my 13drps drunk it and went back to bed. It dawned on me in the morning that I was going to have to take another dose- so I debated heavily if I should skip my morning dose or should i go for it. Well I decided I would go for it. BUT this morning when i was mixing i put 70drops of citric activator in the cup (yeah it was an accident) and I didnt feel like pouring it out- cleaning the cup- drying the cup and doing it again so I just took 14drops of MMS. It made me a little weird a few hours later. Im not sick like I was the first time i tried 14drops but it did upset my tummy. My cramps are more severe and Im on my last cycle day so it shouldnt even be PMS cramps. Of course I have my tea and its making me feel so much better and cramps are going away- this tea is so hot i have to sip it. the way it works wonders i wanna GULP it. I may consider trying chamomile ice tea.
Well as some of you know I was planning on beginning the MMS treatment today. Yesterday, however, I could feel some kind of cold coming on as I was blowing my nose throughout the day and had a constant headache (almost ruined my Superbowl!). I can't really recall but is it ok to begin treatment if you're already feeling sick? I don't want to make anything worse.
Also, my coconut oil supplements and trace minerals arrived today finally, so I've begun taking them and improving the quality of the water I drink. I've also heard things about intense workouts not being great for you because your body produces lactic acid. I'm trying to boost my pH but I can't stop exercising. What I'm wondering is if you should avoid workout within a certain time frame of taking MMS, as the acids may cause some sort of reaction to compromise the solution? I doubt it but I guess it is something to consider.
I really thought the Cardinals were gonna pull it off last night....
AZ1: that makes sense what you said. I had symptoms before I couldn't take the doses...perhaps though if I hadn't had to delay the drops it would not of been as bad. Been a little depress but I am not giving up. It is so typical of my OB's. Thank you for posting. I too started out with water but couldn't do it any longer and switched to apple juice.
Update: today I am going to try the 15 drops 3 times today since it is my day off. Hopefully I won't have to use the bathroom much.
Until later....
AZ1 - At the higher doses I upped my doses about every 3 days. I think you should follow what feels best to you. Many individuals are upping their dosages too fast and too high in an effort to get to 15 drops as soon as possible or under some false pretense that "more is better", and they wind up feeling awful and getting slower results because of their bodies being bogged down. In listening to your body, I think you're on the right track. The weirdness will pass I promise you. I felt "weird" until I was used to around 11 drops if I recall correctly. As you get used to the higher dosages, the weirdness goes away as the toxins leave your body. It's the toxins that are giving you that feeling. PS. You are absolutely right about skipping doses. It's a big no-no. In the time you are taking a break from MMS, herpes will be busy replicating itself to give you an OB at the first opportunity. The side effects do not last, so as long as they're mild, you can press on and they should dissipate quickly.
MELISSA - You can drink it up to an hour after making the solution. Sooner is better, but 30 minutes is fine. I also recall reading on the MMS website that sipping is fine.
GODFORLIFE - I've not personally experienced numbness in the arm, but I know MMS cleans out the arteries. Perhaps there's a connection? Herpes replicates extremely fast. This is why it's so important to keep your dosages steady and avoid skipping. MMS will not suppress the virus, it kills it, therefore, herpes will still act like herpes until there's not enough virus in your system to do so. Hopefully the Molecular Silver will also give you that extra boost you need.
FIRERAGE101 - MMS combined with your immune system will kill herpes faster than it can replicate, which is why it is important not to skip.
PACKMAN - Exercise and MMS are compatible and it's absolutely ok to take MMS if you're feeling ill. Afterall, this is indeed why we're all taking it, right? :-)
ALL - So I know I said I would begin taking MMS 3x daily, but I woke up a bit too late to start today. It's also dawned on me that I don't really know what my herpes numbers were before because my results were not explained to me before, and I used an alias for the test. That said, I've decided I need to get retested. If herpes is still in my system, at least I will have the numbers and can show that they are significantly lower. I will attempt 3x daily tomorrow and plan to make an appointment for retesting within the next day or so.
Well i am up to 9 drops today, felt horrible all day stomach is just painful. Whats interesting is within an hour of the MMS i had sudden water faucet bottom time, and bam water shut off and now normal. Wow now i know what you all mean. My outbreak is almost over as each day goes the burning is less and less, so total time is approx 5 days of this crap. Like i said i feel forunate in a way as im sure i zapped this shit out of me better since it was active, but now have to stay with it. I cant wait to see the first results from whomever tests first. As mentioned before i hope to get my hands on monlouric acid soon maybe as early as wensday as it has been proven in vitro and vitro to help reduce numbers with Hep C and other lipid enveloped viruses. I think this with MMS will help drastacilly. I have a weird question for everyone but hey we are all one big family anyways. My breakouts have never been blister type with the exception of one blister possibly during an outbreak. It seems that after my outbreaks my skin is really dry and almost flaky/white is this wierd.
well word is now starting to spread- that YODA never tested. He is currently in CHAT. The sad thing is who would post as him on the boards? thats just cruel!
Hi all well I just completed week 3 of 15 drops 2x a day. Everything was going good and no real side effects untill last week. Each time after my morning dose I would start cramping and I would be in the bathroom with the runs for about 4 hours. My evening dose would be fine and so side effects at all. Today was a little better the cramping wasn't as bad but I did get the runs for a few hours. I'm going to keep doing 15 drops 2 x a day for one more week. Then I'll get tested depending on how PNJ test come back since were still not sure about having to wait 90 days for the anitbodies to clear.
9 drops today, tommorow then 10 the following, hooorrraaayyy. Wishing everyone luck
Hey all- So i got a hold of Dennis Richards today he recommended that if we want to get rid of the H we have to take molecula Silver along with MMS. He had herpes and with the combo of the two he got rid of it. I just wanted to let ya'll know, so we can all be on the right path to get rid of this horrible disease. He recommends taking it for 2 weeks, but i am going to take it for a month, i want this damn virus DEAD!!!!! I will keep ya'll posted, as far as i know i will be the only one besides Dennis that will combine these two together. I may start a blog with this or keep ya'll updated here. WISH ME LUCK!!! Lets all pray that we all get cured on this forum! God Bless everyone here.
firerage i fell asleep at the computer so just missed posting at the same time as you :)
well recap for today my 14drops this am turned out to be a bearable day (with my tea). my tummy didnt bother me for very long. Tonight I took 13drops and it didnt do anything to me- i feel no side effects at all on 13 drops. Im gonna stay here at 13 for Tuesday and try 14 again on wednesday. the plan will be to stay at 14 drops a few days then for he home stretch.
PNJ - Definately, I agree. I'm on 7 drops again today and I don't have tummy cramps, although I felt so fatigued this afternoon at 2pm, that I had to have a lay down at 4.30, and promptly fell asleep and woke up at 7pm. I felt so much better after the nap as it honestly felt like the wind had been knocked out of me. Because this fatigue is new to me, I know it's MMS and my immune system processing toxins, so I'm going to stay on 7 drops again tomorrow, to allow my body to completely adjust. So you're right PNJ, slower is better when experiencing adverse reactions... no matter how small.
Techie - Wow! 14 drops!! Woohoo! I'm so jealous!
Godforlife - I've read a bit about Colloidal Silver, but not Molecular Silver... what's the difference? From what I've read, it looks really good and it might work well with MMS. What are your thoughts PNJ? Would you consider trying it too?
Fireage - Good on you! Those drops are creeping up and you're all surpassing me! Oh well, I'll get there!
Grateful - How you going with it all?
Well i ordered my monloaurin acid today i think i will look for molecular silver and try the combo as well almost a 3 punch ordeal. I stayed at 9 drops today as i dont know if i could push to ten today,s till getting cramps pretty bad.
Techie haha ive falling asleep at the computer more than i'll admit
everyone else keep it up we will get this beat.
Hey everyone,
I'm looking at getting the molecula silver to combine with my MMS treatment. Does anyone know the dosing instructions for it? It was recommended to take with MMS treatment for 2 weeks. Will a 4oz bottle of molecula silver be enough to get me through two weeks? How much do I need to take per dose and how many times a day? Since budget is tight so is available space/weight in my luggage, I really only want to buy enough for the two weeks.
Also does anyone know what happened to the TrueCures hub??? tried to get on there today and it said that hub was no longer published.
Hey all, well it's getting tough now. I'm still on 7 drops and thankfully, no cramping. However, I'm absolutely exhausted each day... particularly in the afternoons after 2pm. Had to have a sleep yesterday afternoon and didn't wake up til 7pm. Felt better for it though. What is going on??? The ear ringing has gone, thank goodness, but the fatigue is unbearable. My head is heavy and I feel like I'm sleep walking, with dead weights around my ankles. Wtf? I'm irritable too and can't handle negative or high pitch noises. Argh! I don't feel sick, but I feel argh. Obviously I'm going to stick with it, but I'm getting really sick of the hurdle that I can't seem to pass at the moment, and that's 7 drops. Should I up to 8 now that I don't get cramping? Or should I stick with 7 til the fatigue stops? Brain fog persists, and depression is creeping up on me. Seems to me that I'm detoxing in a BIG way, and my body needs rest, which I'm just not giving it at the moment. With 3 small kids, who gets rest?? lol
Hi! Started 9 drops this am and I felt a lil cramping a few hours later...the cramping is bearable but I hope it goes away, I also felt a lil nausea, I plan to stay at 9 drops for another day or two....I may also need to eat a lil more this morning I only ate a biscuit with my dose. So tomorrow I will eat a full breakfast and see what happens. I also need another juice...the taste with the apple juice is getting nasty as I ncrease my doses.....
FIRERAGE101 - My apologies for your "faucet bottom", lol. I can totally empathize! You might want to try making a topical solution with MMS. I've not had an outbreak in over 2 months, but I hear that the topical application shortens an outbreak quite drastically, especially when using it in tandem with taking it orally. Herpes takes many forms, so no I do not believe your outbreaks sound weird. As a matter of fact, it's funny you say that, because I've often wondered if my ex thought he was being honest with me when he told me he didn't have herpes. He could have been like so many others who've never had a blister. We know so little about this virus it's scary. PS. You are right to stay put at 9 drops. Always stay 1 drop behind where you feel severe cramps or nausea.
BOOSTNGTI - I went ahead and took the plunge. I just got my PIN from tSTD and will be making an appointment this week. You'll have to excuse me for doing this at a snail's pace, but I didn't expect this to be so hard. Part of me is in total disbelief, but I know the possibility of this virus being out of my system is real and I need to see those numbers. If there is still virus present, at least I will know and can get a bit more aggressive.
GODFORLIFE - Everyone's strain is different. Some of us won't need to take the Molecular Silver and some of us will. I want to see what my numbers look like before diving into more aggressive therapy, but I'd love to see how it goes for you. Some individuals have a particularly aggressive strain and can truly benefit from anything that increases their odds.
AZ1 - Have you made a topical solution? From what I've read, it really does speed up the healing process of an OB, although your symptoms seem to mirror what it was like for me in the beginning so you probably don't even need to bother. The OB I got in the first week of therapy was so tiny I actually chuckled when I looked at it, lol. I'm glad to hear the ringing in your ears is now gone. I reckon you're ok to press on since you're not experiencing cramps or nausea, but it's up to you. If the exhaustion is really getting to you, you could always drag it out a bit longer. Have you tried having a bit of tea in the afternoon? Drinking water helps also.
PACKMAN - That's a good question and I have no idea. Perhaps GODFORLIFE can shed some light? Perhaps you would simply take it according to the package instructions?
MELISSA - It's funny you say that because those mind associations are a real pissah! I had to break from apple juice for the same reason. I just couldn't stand the smell or taste of it even though I couldn't really smell or taste anything but apple juice, lol. Prune juice was a nice switch for me, and I LOVE it with pomegranite or acai juice. I just wish it wasn't so expensive.
ALL - So I took the plunge and bought a PIN from tSTD. I will be taking my test tomorrow or Friday. I just need to work up the nerve. I have to be honest, I did not expect to feel this nervous about getting retested. My mind keeps saying, "is this really it, could this nightmare really be over?" A part of me would prefer to go and hide somewhere, but I know I need to see the numbers. I wanted to say to you all how wonderful it is that we are all supporting one another this way. I don't know what I would've done without you all, especially you TECHBONES! We've got a good family here and I hope all of you feel as supported as I do.
az1- i think some will disagree with what you should do next so you might have to decide for yourself. I would say you have been at 7drops for a week- i would try to up and see what happens. if it doesnt make you any WORSE stick with it. we all feel a little icky during the process and thats because MMS is doing what it needs to be doing. I stayed at 13drops for 4-5days because I wanted to get my body used to it. It didnt make me feel worse but I sure hecks didnt feel great. Just keep in mind this is a fight and when you feel 100% its when the virus is gone- until then your body is still fighting it off.
packman- truecures hub got unpublished by hubpages as he linked his personal site there. he has modified the content and is awaiting approval from hubpages before it can be reposted. Take that as a good sign- usually when someone is on to something good- they get shut down :) as for the silver I dont know- but let me know what you find out plz.
firerage youre presing on- glad to see youre taking it slow- else it will slow you down!
all I finally moved to 14drops today and it went without major incident. i didnt need my tea YEAH but i got the usual symptoms feeling high- runny nose- spitting up mucus- and going to the toilet.
mel- you doing alright? grateful did the ob clear up what happened
wow as i was posting i missed a whole lot.
PNJ congrats I am so happy for you.
I was also going to say the same thing- I get nausea BEFORE taking my MMS now as I dont like the applejuice taste either. I may try carrot as I aint drink nobodies prune juice.
but what works for me is to let the juice get room temp or least not so cold- pour a little amount in the glass drink it nonstop so I dont taste anything until the end and then immediatly add a little more juice to the glass to flush that. my mind is taking over too as I have to force myself to take it.
truecures hub is backup.
PNJ28 - I will cross my fingers for you. Good luck. Take Care
PNJ: I am so excited about your upcoming test..GOOD LUCK GIRL!!!!! I HOPE YOU GET THE RESULTS YOU WANT!!!!
Techie: Today I finally got the diarhea...
denni you on step3 which day? or was it the catfish and hot sauce????
luv ya chic!
pnj you nervous?
Thank you guys! Yes TECH, I'm very nervous, but I know I've got to do it. I'm just trying to keep my head together, lol. You know TECH, I was going to say that I think I know why you haven't had any harsh side effects. You've kept your dosages steady and slow, and that's simply the only way to go in regards to MMS. You mentioned before that you kept your dosage at one level for about a week. That in and of itself will give you a higher tolerance for higher dosages as toxins are cleaned out without any side effects.
pnj toxins are truly clearing. i feel like a resolve patient being told they are clearing ive been on the toilet all day long. yes slower is better.
Well good evening, still having this outbreak tried topical mixed with DMSO starting to wonder if i burnt my poor boys, it does seem that anytime i apply dmso it burns and aches like hell for a few days usually stronger than it did before, followed by dry flaky white patchs behing the side's. No one said it was a censored board lol. As far as mms i moved to 10 drops today the faucet turned off as quick as it turned on, minus the taste looking good. Only side effect it slight nauciated feeling for the first 30 minutes after. Anyways i bought som monolaurin will start taking that as well for a full month in combo with DMSO, also got a viral stop protien enzyme that supposed to eat protien type viruses, im going to atempt mms with monloaurin after a week of the monolaurin add in the vira stop and finnaly molecular zinc. Hopefully i threw enough of the nastys and the h it dies. Looking forward to seeing numbers from our tester. Got you in my prayer's
pnj was still around
Are you still on? lol
so has anyone actually tested negative from taking mms or anything else ?
Hi i was just diagnose with hsv-II last friday, and since then have done alot of reasearch and came across pnj28 on the medhelp forum. I ordered the mms yesterday and cannot wait to start this war against hsv.
LANTZ937 - Yes and no. I don't know anyone who has officially retested using MMS, but the testimonials exist in the literature and on the web. I will be getting retested this week, so I believe I will be the first on this HUB to publicly post my viral numbers (which will hopefully be extremely low or non-existent).
AISHATARR - Glad to hear it and welcome! Everyone here is at various stages of their therapy. As long as you take things very slow and keep it steady, you will do great. My side effects always remained quite mild as long as I didn't get too aggressive. A few of us also have blogs you can check out. A link to my and TECHIE'S blog are at the top of this HUB, and AZ1 has one also. I will let her post her link, as I don't know if she wants the link on the HUB.
pnj, so with the mms i need to order mms and the citric acid kit ?
Lantz937 - Citric Acid is ideal, yes, but you can also use lemon or lime juice. Are you currently taking anything?
i am on acyclovir. i just want to find something to stop my ob. i have like 2 clear days a week.
Wow, that's a lot of outbreaks... I'm sorry to hear that! Well I can tell you that I've been OB free for about 2 months now and retest this week. Others are seeing good results also, but as you know we're all different and our strains will vary. Typically outbreaks weaken before they cease, as the virus is being killed off and not suppressed. My last outbreak was the first week of my therapy and it was a pin-sized blister that was gone in about 2 days.
One great thing about MMS is you can use it topically in tandem with your oral dose. Topically it will kill an OB on contact, and I've read some great testimonials to that. I recently made a spray solution that works quite well, and I've been using it to ensure I'm getting enough on my skin in the infected region. I'm not sure if anyone else here has tried this yet.
PS. I should also mention that Molecular Silver was suggested for the more resistant strains. I'll certainly be trying this if my test results warrant it.
Yeah i know. But when i have a ob it is only there for 24 hour's an it goes away. It's like 1-2 new bumps a day. Yeah it's crazy. I am going to order the mms kit tomorrow an we will see what happens. i need to order from the link at the top of this hub, right ? I am looking up Molecular Silver right now. Thanx for the help an support.
The link above is where I got mine, but there are other sites that offer it as well. If you are ordering from UK, I believe the link that explains the "chemistry of MMS" has a UK link to it. I have a link to Jim Humble's website up there also, so you can see if he recommends any sites, etc. I look forward to hearing about your progress, and feel free to chat anytime!
Thank you. If your on myspace you can add my pg, here is my pg link. www.myspace.com/lance_45159
. i am off to bed. G*Night
Nighty night!
Techiegurl or pnj28 maybe you can help me with this...
So today I reached my 15 drops, prior to that I never had anything feel weird or nothing. right after I drank it I threw right up, and I don't know what I'm suppose to do? do I take it again? or do I back off and wait until tonight to take my second dose and maybe that wont happen again. I think its also vecause I drink it with water... the smell makes me sick I dread taking it because of the taste and smell, is there anything I can drink it with that won't make it taste so bad or make me throw it up?
PNJ28 - Good luck on your tests! I've started up on MMS. 5 days, 6 drops, no problems. Am really looking forward to seeing some-one test negative! Would be a real boost to the community!
PNJ- Good luck on the testing!!! I am sending you good vibes, like AZ1 always sends me. As soon as i am over with my month of MMS and Molecula SIlver i am going to retest around mid March. I should get the silver soon, i hope!
Firerage: i would like to talk to you in private since you are going to do the molecula silver too if you don't mind. Let me know and i will send PNJ my email addy and we can chat there.
All- God Bless us all for doing this, and Bless PNJ for good results! AMEN
pnj haha yes i was still in chat last night.
lantz- youcan use lemon juice but your mms kit should come with some crystals that you have to add water to in order to make the activator.
aisha welcome tothe hub.
minnie 15drops with water you are brave! Its hard for me to say what to do in that situation because theres no guarantees when you threw up- it was the entire 15drops. some may have stayed in your system. I would say try switching to juice.
well today there really is a big difference in 1 drop. i was doing 13drops for the past 4-5days with no issues whatsoever. today Ihit 14drops (actually yesterday was the first) so today i was onl my second day of 14drops. I again forgot my apple and this time is TORE ME UP. 2hours aftr taking it I got super sick again. I had a hectic morning at work so couldnt get to my tea to balance it out. I ended up in the bathroom this am and it was coming out both ends. My stomach was WRINGING with pain- i felt like I wanted to just lay on the bathroom floor. I tell you if I hadnt threw up on the floor I may have gotten down there! but after that I drank my tea and my stomach was still upset! I dosed off and its getting better but every now and then I will get a sharp pain if I stand up so Ive been sitting down taking it very easy. my advise to all please slow down- if your body is telling you to- this is not pretty.
OMG That is horrible! I hope you're doing better today :(I never repeated any drops just kept going until I hit 15 but it seems it was too much... and yes the water doesn't kill the taste. Most juices have Vitamine C so I have no idea what to drink it with? maybe V8? Carrot juice? lol I'm so lost I dont know what to do... but I will continue with my 15 drops tonight I think I'll just go ahead with juice... Water is NOT a good option.
pnj28: GOOD LUCK ON YOUR TEST!! I'M CHEERING FOR YOU! I KNOW YOU'LL BE CURED :D
P.S what is this Molecular silver? is it the same form of MMS??
OPPS Techiegurl didnt post that.. it was meI just typed the name in the wrong slot! WOW blonde moment :S lol
pnj, Good Luck on your test. i really hope everything come's back the way we all want it ta come back.
Techie,
Thank you I am ordering it now.
MINNIE - Try it again with juice. I couldn't stand drinking it with water even at a much lower dose, so I believe it's probably the taste and smell that's bothering you. You can drink it with 100% juice that does not contain any Vitamin C, Absorbic Acid, Citric Acid, or Sodium Citrate (100% apple, carrot, prune, and pomegranite works well). If you vomit after trying it with juice, lower your dose. Molecular Silver is simply a suppliment. GODFORLIFE was advised that using it in tandem with MMS would be useful for more difficult strains of the virus.
CANADA - Cheers for your support! I'm extremely nervous and I hate needles, so I'm using this extra day to prepare myself. I know this is silly, but as much as I appreciate all the support here, I really don't want to let anyone down. So I'm crossing my fingers and all my toes that these tests show something concrete so we can all have a reason to smile!
GODFORLIFE - Thank you for the prayers, they're greatly appreciated. My email address is at the top of this HUB. Email anytime. Depending on my test results I may be ordering my own supply of Molecular Silver, so it would be great to see how it works for you.
TECHIE - That's funny. I was going to pop back on, but I was exhausted so I'm sure you were all better off, lol. At the higher doses you may need to eat more than an apple. I forgot what else you said you normally eat with it.
LANTZ937 - Your Citric Acid Crystals will need to be ordered separately with your order, but they're only about $2-3.
pnj congrats- you reached 100 as a hub score.
pnj yeah alkaline is slowing coming to an end. i cant do both in the morning. I will be cooking pancakes or something filling- maybe a few bowls of cereal because todays pains can not happen again. I dont get them at night so I am assuming its because I didnt have enough on my stomach.
minnie/mel- what stores are you lookin in for your juice? go to health food store such as whole foods etc. theres plenty of natural juices out there even apple. i use the motts natural apple juice and i am going juice hunting for another so i can switch it up.
Thanks pnj28 I will try it.. and yah its the smell and taste that made me vomit. The fact that I was able to take it with water for that long surpises me lol I was scared to try it with juice, thinking it might take away from the effect of the MMS doing its job in killing the virus. I will definitely pick some juice up tonight.Techiegurl: I go to the grocery store but yah I should go to a health store never thought about it ... I also meant to write ( ME! not mel) I must of been flushed this morning from throwing up) lol
Hey guys and gals just a quick note, its molecula silver not molecular. No 'R' at the end. I thought it was this at first too, and couldn't really find any solid info when googling it. I ordered some a few days ago, apparently a 16oz bottle is enough for 2 weeks of treatment, which was recommended by the people in the "know". Just thought I'd clear that up for anyone trying to find info or looking to purchase some. gotta jet, I'll check in again soon!
PNJ,
Just checking in and see that you are testing soon. I wish you the best of luck, and I will be praying for you.
I just ordered my mms kit. so i will keep everyone updated once i start this.
godforlife
When would be a good time to reach you, for a private chat email, chat room not sure as ive never done it before. Let me know what to do i'll try and help.
Well for those keeping track or not keeping track, im at 10 drops (taking with treetop apple juice) no additives etc. Taking one tablespoon of molecular zinc twice a day, as well monolaurin. Recently added virastop 3 times a day and will also be adding silver. Oh yeah, also using dmso with zinc spraying topically.
I know this may seem overkill but the rough part is each have to be taken different times and hopefully it will knock this stubborn ass thing out.
Firerage101: WOW you're taking all of that.. it must be such a pain...is MMS enough to kill this virus? I really hope so I hate this treatment process :( I've decided to take 15 drops twice a day for 1 month ... then get tested after 90 days.
Minnie,
I thought u were on Resolve...no?
Did 10 drops today....i'm thinking about 11 4 2morrow...but yes the taste is geting nastier and I've noticed the need to eat more had a lil bit of nausea on 9 drops but nothing major so I pushed forward. If I feel good in the AM will step up to 11....
PNJ can you please give firerage my email for me? I am going to email it to you and can you please forward it to him, thank you.
Well today i recieved my package of Molecula Silver. Tomorrow i start it for a month. I will update ya'll on my progress.
godforlife i'll send and email to PNJ.
Minnie, yes ive been on mms for approx 11 days now, i had a normal outbreak with no reduction while on mms. Currenlty im doing fine with no adverse reaction's, however had side effects on 7 or 8 drops then now just the intial mms burping stuff. Using apple juice. I was using water but it got bad. It's def a pain to remember all the things to take but i really want to get this cured.
i should of noted above that others have had one small outbreak in the begining, im currenlty starting this treatment and plan to tackle it aggressivily. I plan to stop in march and see what happens. ive bene using treetop brand apple juice not form concentrate and no additive's. I iwsh everyone the best of luck. Some things to keep in mind, no one should ever fight along, and together we can overcome. keep positive and smile, and remember the faucet effect as i will now call it kicked on during drops 7 or 8. It quickly shut off as well. Also altough the many years of poolwater i drank growing up only prepared me for the first 6 drops
sorry for freakin ya out PNJ. It was late and my fingers were rambling while my eyes were closed.
I'll stay out of chat if your in from now on.
Take care
LANTZ937 - Good stuff! I'm glad that all got sorted.
FIRERAGE101 - I hope you nip it in the bud, and I hope I have some great news for you all next week! We have a chatroom we use that can be used for private chats also. The link is at the top of this hub and MAS is the moderator. Would you please email me so that I can forward GODFORLIFE'S email to you? I don't remember which email addy is yours, lol.
MINNIE - I think some individuals with a more difficult strain may need to get a bit more aggressive, but this won't be the case for all.
MELISSA - 10 drops, good stuff! Sounds like now might be a good time to mix it with juice, lol.
MAS - Don't be silly. I took zero offense to what you said, and if I don't see you on chat when I'm on, I will have TECH hunt you down, lol. We all have different ways of seeing things MAS. That's a good thing. PS. I logged off because I needed to get ready for bed, not because of anything you said.
your a sweetie PNJ.
sent you an email addy for odfor life started 11 dropes this morning
obviously by the horrible spelling i didnt have my coffee yet, nope you guessed it i had my MMS hooorrraaayyyy
Firerage- i sent pnj my email addy. Hope to hear from you soon!
All- HOLY COW- this stuff makes me REALLY REALLY sleepy. My heart is starting to hurt a little so i am taking stuff for my heart and 2000 mg of Vitamin C and Vitamin E everyday that i am on this.
FaithRn: I was about to order Resolve until pnj28 mentioned this MMS treatment ... so I ended up ordering that and stopped going to the resolve hub, and post here. I think was a lot of negetivity on the resolve hub. I'm quite happy with the MMS treatment other then the minor sickness yesturday.
firerage101: yah water is not so much a good idea... I dont know how I managed 14 drops lol but that's good ... POWER to NO OB's!
Pnj28: how do you know if you have a more difficult strain of the virus? does it depend on the amount of OB's you get? I'm also assuming on the amount of time you've been infected as well with the virus correct?
Godforlife-were you referring to the molecula silver that is giving you pains??/
I picked up 2 new juices today: 100% pomegrante and 100% berry blend (apple and blurberry mixed) I hope this tastes better than just mixing with my normal apple juice....
I was to start 11 drops this AM but I didn't have time to get it in this AM so I will take an evening dose and then 2 doses of 11 2morrow....I hope I continue to feel well. Lately, I've noticed stinky gas....lol and a lil bit of naseau when I was on 9 drops but I think that was because I did not have enough food in my tummy that morning.
PNJ, I can't wait for your results!!! I have a good feeling about them.
FIRERAGE101 - I have GODFORLIFE'S email, but not yours. Please try resending it to tiaj28@hotmail.com
GODFORLIFE - Why are you taking so many suppliments? MMS doesn't strip your body of any of those things, and Vitamin C will dilute your MMS solution if you aren't careful to take it 2-3 hours before or after taking MMS.
MINNIE - Generally yes, your OB's would be more severe and frequent. I also believe there is a lot of truth to the theory that attacking herpes sooner rather than later is beneficial, due to the fact that it replicates so quickly. If you had a more resistant strain of the virus, you would see fewer or no results using MMS at the smaller doses. However, I should mention that most of the time when I read about someone not experiencing any results, it tends to be because they are not taking the solution correctly. The best thing to do is to use MMS according to the general protocol. If you've not achieved results by then, that would be the time to get more aggressive. This is why I'm being retested. I need to know what my numbers are before deciding if I'm done with therapy or if I need a more aggressive approach.
MELISSA - Thank you! I'll be going in this afternoon, and I'll let everyone know how it goes. <Biting nails>
massy- theres no escaping the fact- you are a true gent! see you tonight same bat time same bat place.
lantz- how you doing today? that extra hour of snooze actually turned into 2hours. I was a little late today but TGIF.
pnj did you do the test today? how did it go?
g4l be careful.
mel- wow youre moving right along.
minnie did you find juice?
az1- check in how are you doing?
well this is my third day at 14drops. I will stay her over the weekend and try for the goal on Monday. still no outbreaks for me- my last one was the day before i started.
PNJ , good luck to you, fingers crossed and everything else.
Rooting for you big time.
CHip
pnj28: I wonder if taking the solution too many hours apart is not good... I try atleast 10 hour because I work afternoons so I generally sleep in until12pmso I take my MMa around that time and again at 9-10pm... I hope I am doing this process correctly :S I definitely do not want to screw the process upTechigurl: YESSS I got GRAPE! YUMMM lol I was able to swallow the bleach infused grape juice successfully without puking lol woo hoo!
Hey everyone just got the mms in the mail today,that was fast.Im so nervious though. Im praying for everyone.Pnj can't wait to hear the great news.
Tech. glad you got some more sleep before youi had ta start yourday. I went ta sleep at 11 am an just woke @ 7:30 om. It was good.
All. I got a e-mail with my trackin number's for my mms. It was scanned in at spokane, WA around 2pm today. It has to travel to ohio. I will keep you updated. I am excited to be startin this path in my life of finding a cure.
PNJ-OMG you are going today(crossing fingers). I hope it goes well for you! As for the Vitamin C i take it 3 hours after and before i take MMS. I don't know what is going on with me right now. It started when my right arm started getting numb and now my chest gets a sharp pain. I know that MMS strips arterial plaque, so i am taking artery health vitamins along with MMS and Molecula Silver to ensure that i am not doing damage to my heart. I was wondering if anyone else beside AZ1 had numbness in the arm while taking MMS?
Heres a link to the article with Heart Issues
http://greathealthcheap.info/MMS_Danger.html
I am still going to take MMS for another month or so.
Techie- thank you for your concern, i really appreciate it!
Melissa- i have had these pains befor taking Molecula Silver.
Hey all, today is my 3rd day on 8 drops and apart from extreme fatigue that generally hits at around lunchtime, I'm feeling ok.
Godforlife - May I ask how old you are? I'm curious, because I have had numbness in my left arm, however I've put it down to structural imbalance, as I've had a troublesome back and neck for years. Having said that, I've been getting heart palps or flutters a lot lately, and they usually hit in the afternoon when I'm extremely tired. I've been stressed a bit lately too, so I guess tension wouldn't help things either. I don't get chest pain, but I get a tightening feeling and it feels like it's hard to breath sometimes, but again, I think it's stress as when I think about it, it gets worse, whereas when my mind isn't on it, I'm ok.
PNJ - I'm so excited for you, and nervous too! You've had such a good run so far with no OB's, so it's all looking good. I'm still plodding away at 8 drops, however I really do believe that 7 - 8 drops is my problem spot. I wake up feeling ok, but then within an hour of taking MMS, I'm fatigued again. It's argh! I'm walking around in a daze and dragging my feet. I'm quite irritable too. Hmm, wonder what's going on in my body to make this such a difficult dosage spot. Good luck with your test results, I'll be praying for you!
Techie - Hey! Sounds like 14 drops is your nemesis, just as 7-8 drops is mine. Mind you, I've had oral HSV since I was 3 or 4, and I'm now 40, so I guess there's loads of replication to sweep outta the nooks and crannies.
My hubby is up to 15 drops already, and apart from getting the sweats and rapid heart beat of the night time, he's doing fine. Obviously he doesn't have HSV at all, but he does have a history of heart disease and he suffers from high blood pressure, so hopefully it's clearing his arteries for him.
To everyone else who has ordered MMS, or who has just started their MMS journey, good luck with it and congrats on taking charge of your health! Although I've had a difficult time at 7-8 drops, I know it's because MMS and my immune system combined, are fighting off nasties that could very well have made my future very different to what I now know is going to be very different... and in a positive way!
Ok guys, don't "boo" me, but I chickened out this morning, and by the time I changed my mind and got ready to go, I realised the office was about to close. So in essence, I will be getting tested on Monday instead. I can't possibly exaggerate how afraid of needles I am. I literally have nightmares about them, so I'm really having to build myself up for this, lol. I hate the dentist for this exact reason. Don't worry, Monday I will definitely go. I would have gone today had I not distracted myself with tons of errands, which chewed up all my time, lol.
MINNIE - The juice makes ALL the difference, lol. I don't think you need to worry much about the time. As long as the doses are 9-12 hours apart, you should be fine. Many individuals take MMS 3x daily, so I can't imagine there being a huge problem with what you're doing. I myself have taken my morning dose anywhere from 10am-12pm to 9pm-midnight. I believe the guidelines are mostly general.
GODFORLIFE - That's an interesting article. I wonder how aggressive this person was about their treatment. I only say that because I've never heard of this unless a person was going too fast with their therapy. It is absolutely true that you can have too much of a good thing too fast, which is why I think it's so important that we all go slow and allow our bodies time to adjust. Likewise, I think it's important to eat properly while taking MMS. You'll get all your necessary vitamins from eating right (plenty of fruits and veggies), no problem, but if you're not healthy to begin with, suppliments could definitely be in order.
awe....PNJ
AZ1 - Hi there! I missed the boat, but I'll still get tested Monday.
MAS - :-P
You know what? It takes them about 2-3 days to produce the results, so there actually won't be much of a difference in terms of when I'll see my viral numbers, lol.
PNJ: I hate needles too! I'm chicken. I'm gonna have to mentally prepare myself when it is time to test.
Question: After reading the link posted by Godforlife, should we be taking Vitamin C in between doses to avoid this potential problem?????
MELISSA - The short answer to that is you should be eating right and taking suppliments period. So in that regard yes. But do I feel that taking MMS will cause health problems, absolutely not. I believe MMS will magnify any problems you do have, therefore you'll want to take things slow and make sure you're eating properly and guarding against problems in the first place. I never experienced any numbness, but I do recall feeling "nervous" when getting used to the higher dosages. There could be a number of reasons for this (including my own paranoia), but the reality was that there were times when I ate things that were horrible for me, so I knew my body would be clearing those things away. I do take a suppliment and eat lots of fruits and veggies, but I had began doing that before taking MMS as part of a full body cleansing.
you have mail pnj. Thanks again for your help. Well im at 10 drops no real bad side effects other than gas, i'll write more later.
PNJ... BOO! :o)
Good luck on Monday. Just close your eyes and think of the queen!
Hi All, I've been "lurking" around for weeks now and just wanted to say what a postive enviroment this is. I was watching someone else's Resolve blog and one thing lead to another and I wound up here. I'm really glad I did because I think this hub kept me from making a mistake on the Resolve front - just don't feel that would have been right for me personally. I ordered Jim Humble's book first and I have to say that it is fascinating. I think as soon as I finish reading it I will probably take the MMS plunge. :)
PNJ - If it wasn't for your hub, I probably would be very upset as so many appear to be with the Resolve so from the bottom of my heart, thank you. Now, I know you are afraid of needles, we all have our fears in this life, but I also know from reading your posts you can suck it up and turn your head the other way when they stick you. :) Best of luck to you on Monday, I am truly pulling for all of you.
Hey everyone i need help, never really having blisters before i dont know if the one i just popped was a herpes blister or zit. (IF even possible) I hate to be discriptive but here it goes. So on the bottom of the bead where the skin folds are the male region i noticed 1 small almost zit looking thing. Bout the size of a small pin head. Never ever ever had something like this before. It was filled with white (like a zit on the face) when i squezzed it popped just like one, white fluid remained intact and behind that was the blood from the broken skin. Any help appreacited
PNJ- I cant say what I want here cuz you"ll delete me and probably block me- but come to chat and I got words for you :)
but we still support you.
PNJ i know you dont like to post on the main hub anymore- but i run the interference for you- i think its time you get back over there- to do a few posts for the new comers to direct them here. I dont think very many people are gonna do resolve so its just MMS and Truecures. MMS is just as good- so grab that stick and get it cracking!
firerage i thinks thats H but let the others comment also. thats how my obs are. does it crust up? well good news is MMS is working on it. hope you feel better
techie ya never fail, posted right after meand advice on the above
techie
Well nope i had one blister i noticed when i sat down today, just one itsy little thing not red but white, and exactly like a zit. I have been putting dmso on down there lately and not sure if it could be a zit since dmso dries me up. It popped like a zit and theres nothing left at this moment, not that you care but currenlty have a mixture of DMSO and Zinc applied going to let it sit for a few then wash it all off. I mean one single blister and that it. Weird would like to kno if that what it is. just looking forward to help
Hey PNJ, I'm so glad you mentioned the "nervous" thing earlier, because that's exactly what I'm experiencing. I'm a bit of a livewire anyways, but I'd sorted that all out prior to taking MMS, by taking supplements called NeruoCalm. Basically they help to calm the nervous system, as I've really been through a lot over the last few years. Hah! Haven't we all! Well anyway, I've stopped taking them now, and ever since reaching 7 drops, I've been experiencing terrible nervousness, tightness in the chest, which I know is tension, as well as chronic fatigue. The fatigue is the killer as most days I HAVE to lay down for an hour or more. It's freaking me a bit to be honest, as I just have NO energy, and I've never experienced this before. I don't have cramps as such, but occasionally very slight nausea. I've just started taking Magnesium / Potassium supplements again, and I might also get a multi vitamin from my Naturopath on Monday to help boost energy levels. I'm truly nervous as to why I am so fatigued... could this mean there is something seriously wrong with me that MMS is fighting? Or could it be a simple case of MMS clearing out H? I'm so paranoid at the moment! And, I'm driving my hubby insane with it ! lol
Ok, me again, but just quickly this time. I have noticed something significant, and I'm posting it here as it may help others. The fatigue I mentioned above is almost unbearable... I just want to sleep! Since being on 8 drops 3 days ago, the fatigue and fog brain take over 35 mins to one hour afterwards... like clockwork! It then lasts ALL day! Or, until I rest for at least an hour, and then I'm ok. So, the significant thing I've noticed is.... I'm due for my period in a few days and I normally don't have an OB until just after my period has finished. However, I have been getting odd little "aches" under the right buttock, just to the right of the genital area. These "aches" are very sporadic and so mild, that they are almost unnoticeable. However I'm completely in tune with my body and as this is the "typical" padromal area for me (every single month!), this tells me that MMS is drawing H outta them "hidey holes" that it had taken refuge, and it's killing it... BAM! The reason I am so tired is that my body is removing the waste, so my kidneys, liver and lymphatic system are completely overworked at the moment and I need to rest to help them along. Finally, the truth shines through the fog... argh this fog brain! Anyhow, hope this info helps someone else along their path at some stage. The "ache" is still there now as I type this, but it is so mild, that I barely notice it. The other difference is that the pain doesn't travel down my leg as a normal padromal symptom would. Another thing I've noticed is that I get pain and slight burning in the urethra area, of which I only ever got whenever I've had a UTI... something that I've had problems on and off with for years. Maybe MMS is clearing something there too? You go MMS! And praise goes to my poor, overworked, but very clever God given body too :D.
All- so to get my system ready for mms, should i be takin some kind of vitamins to help make sure my system is ready for this mms ? please respond i am not sure how to prepare my system for this. Thanx, Lantz
Have a quick question. I started MMS 5 days ago. Have both of Jim's books, and he mentions increasing the dosage twice a day until you feel nausea. Well I'm up to 11 drops this morning and so far so good. Some problems with my ... hmmm stool... which I understand from the book will pass quickly,,,(no pun intended!) but really no problems. I'm taking it with water and downing it like a beer on a hot day. So I'm wondering if I'm doing it right! In Jim's book he seems to indicate that you work your way up to 15-20 drops twice a day, then 3 times a day. BUT in another section he indicates to beat deseases you take two doses a day within two hours of each other. What are others doing?
hey Canada- we have learned from experience that slower is better. We know Jim is the founder but what most of us have experienced recently is that upping the doses per day is better hell some of us cant even handle that and have to stay at a certain drop dose a FEW days like me. I stayed at 13drops for 5 days and Im staying at 14drops for 5 days because the body reacts differently. We have another poster who was doing it with water as well and had to switch when it got to the higher doses. Juice is what the majority of us are doing but it has to be natural juice anything esle can hinder the results.
guys i was still bouncing back last night- my tummy was still unsettled so I didnt eat dinner and in turn didnt take my nightly mms dose. I got up around 1am and was gonna take it- but didnt want to on an empty stomach so once again a friday night had me skipping my dose LOL. i am about to take my 14 drops now- got my tea working too. :)
Techie where can I get my MMS..I am ready buy NOW...LOL...
AZ1 I am so thrilled to hear you are on 8drops. we both started 19days ago and I thought I would be at 15drops in no time-- but I am convinced the biggest fight that MMS has with H is getting to 15drops. I think by the time we get to 15 drops so much of H has been dealt with already. we assume the work doesnt start until 15drops but i guess thats not true as MMS works immeditley.
AZ1 i found out a few weeks ago that MONO is a form of HSV in some type of way. I couldnt help but to think about MONO when reading how tired you were. in any regard we know MMS is working for you!
denni- youre on the cure trail now i see. yeahhhhhh
spinach and apples right? lol just kidding.
see the links above theres several places to get it.
www.mmsmiracle.com is where most people go
i went to http://www.healthwithmms.com/ for mines
Hey AZ1, just a thought about the fatigue. I started talking to someone from the Resolve hub via email, and she sent me a couple Biomagnets after explaining some of the therapy she was doing. I couldn't afford a full set for myself, but as I read the literature on it, it basically speeds the healing process and reduces pain by amplifiying the body's normal electrical currents in certain areas. I'm not giving my endorsement for this treating H or anything, but it may be able to help deal with the side effects of MMS- here is an exerpt from the treatment protocol
"If after sternum placement, you feel nervous or nauseous, your body is starting to detoxify too rapidly. Remove the power wafers (magnets) and place the 2-stack on the CVS-Cerebral Vestibular Systerm- green side on the back of the neck. The Power wafers can be placed on your shirt collar blah blah. The CVS Placement is an excelent energizing point and will detoxify the body more slowly without the nervousness or nausea"
I believe I will try this during my MMS treatment if I experience the nervousness or nausia. I don't have the full magnet kit to do all of the treatment methods, but like I said this stuff is really meant for pain relief and not to cure H. I'm not starting my treatment for another couple weeks because I will be traveling a lot and can't keep up with the doses, but I when I start I will give updates regarding my side effects and if I think the magnets are helping.
Hey PNJ, thanks for the input. What supplements are you taking? Like a multi-vitamin? I picked up some vit c today and will take it 3-4 hours after my dose....I'mjust now taking my morning dose starting 11 this morning/early-noon.
CANADA - I'm sure it must mention that somewhere, but for the general protocol, you should be increasing your drops daily and not per dose. This is the most beneficial way to take MMS. I can't tell you how many people get themselves into trouble by getting too aggressive too soon. Jim Humble also stresses in his literature that slower is better.
I will reply to everyone else shortly, I just thought it was important to get this one out first.
Thanks pnj28... everything seems back to normal... everything! :o) So I don't quite understand why I'm not suffering the problems others are having, with the exception of the taste, which at 11 drops is repulsive, and which I thank my high school days for teaching me how to quaff beer in a single gulp! Any word on storing MMS? Right now I have it in the fridge beside my distilled water.
good luck PNJ
CANADA - Yes, I will close my eyes and think of England, HAHAHA!!! Btw, having no severe side effects is a good thing. Just make sure you're taking it properly and avoiding all the no-no's and you should have no need to worry. You'll know if you did something wrong, as you won't see health improvements.
REDVELVET - Thank you for your words, and I'm glad you're here. I think people forget how truly destructive negative energy can be. The point of this HUB was to help others not feel like how I felt when I realised I was infected with herpes. While I was glad I met some of the individuals from the other HUB, reading some of the posts was absolutely draining and left me feeling awful. A body can't heal that way. I do not welcome negativity here or in my life, and I'm glad you feel at home and comfortable enough to share!
FIRERAGE101 - Herpes can mimick zits definitely. Have you tried applying MMS topically to see how it would respond?
TECH - Now I KNEW you'd have something to say. Bring it, lol!
AZ1 - I reckon you're absolutely right about needing your rest. If it gets too troublesome, you could always back down for for a few days or a week to give your body more time to adjust. How long have you been at 7 drops? Viruses also affect us emotionally, so I believe there is a connection there also. If you can manage it, try and fit some meditation & positive reinforcment and a solid night's sleep in your routine. I've been eating a lot of green veggies and carrots, which seem to keep me boosted quite nicely and ensures I'm getting good vitamin intake. Viruses tend to rob us of nutrients, so replacing them daily is essential. I think suppliments are an excellent option, but food is the best way to get what you need, so start there and then pop a suppliment. TECH also made a excellent point about mono!
LANTZ - No, it is not necessary to "prepare" yourself, but do make sure you're eating relatively healthy and getting a good vitamin intake daily. Toxins and viruses rob your body of nutrients, so while you're clearing out the toxins, be sure you're replacing the nutrients they've robbed or you're inviting poor health.
DENNI - How're your symptoms lately? I'm glad to see you trying MMS. I hope we'll all have some great stories to share with newbies!
MELISSA - I take a general multi-vitamin for women in a liquid gel cap daily about 3 hours after my MMS dose.
CANADA - You don't have to keep it refrigerated. Just keep it in a dark place that is room temperature. The citric acid will last longer if you refrigerate it (2 years), but it's not necessary. It will last 1 year at room temperature, and you'll probably use it in that timeframe.
Techie - You know, I hadn't thought of mono, and when I first contracted genital herpers, I actually thought it was a bad case of worms as I was treating my eldest for worms at the time. Not only that, I was extremely fatigued, like, I struggled to get out of bed and was dragging my feet. Depression set in badly at the time too, but I put it all down to being tired from sitting up til 2am most nights trying to set up my internet business, because hubby couldn't find work and I was still breastfeeding. Maybe I did get mono? Can you get both mono and HSV genitally at the time same time? Hmmm, I'll research it.
Packman - thanks for the suggestion, I'll definately look into it. Sounds very interesting too.
PNJ - I'm at 8 drops and have been for nearly 5 days now. I'm going to up the dosage to 9 tomorrow and see how I go. I think that going to bed each night 12.30 to 1am isn't helping either as my son wakes from 6am to 6.30am and hubby cuddles me through the night in his sleep and it wakes me up!!! So I'm not really getting much sleep. This may be the cause of my fatigue, and I know it sounds logical, but I've always been a night owl and it's never affected me like this before.
Not sure if it was a zit or herpes blister as i popped it applied dmso and zinc, waited fifteen, then applied dmso and hydrogen perozide, then applied dmso and iodine. Hope they died swiftly, was acutally looking into medavir, supposed to kill the h virus as well, even fda approved. It has shown to reduce the number of outbreak or make them stop by actually killing the virus by pentrating the skin. I think im going to order some as well and use it in combination with MMS.
GODFORLIFE, you have mail
firerage im sure youre posting right now lol.
pnj ill reserve my words till we have no audience :)
az1- i am doing my drops for 5 days then increasing so hope that goes well for you. yes i have the same issues small children- hubby- a CHAT ROOM habit :) and my sons dont sleep through the night and I have to tend to that. recently ive been letting them spend the weekend with my mom or someone so I can get more rest. yes MONO and HSV can run hand in hand. MMS could be waking up the MONO and killing it. ive done a little research on it and it seems a few people suffer from both. We actually have another poster on the main hub with a BAD case of MONO. PNJ is right though- you do need to replenish what H takes out.
welcme velvet
lantz- how are them stones? you doing better?
techie you called it
pnj- i wasnt sleep this time- had a little issue with the kiddies. hehe
ill talk to you tomororw.
Techie - you could be right about the mono, as I went through a terrible time last year and 2007, that completely took its toll on me in more ways than one. The fatigue that set in was unbelievable at the time, and it was at that time that I also transferred oral HSV to the genital area. Funnily enough, I feel a lot better today. I'm not fatigued like I have been, only a little heady. I slept in til 11.30am mind you, however obviousy I needed it. I have a lot more energy today and the fog brain has lifted, so that tells me that MMS has definately been fighting some unseen thing (hopefully H!), and that I'm now ready to move up to 9 drops tomorrow. Yahoo!
AZ1- wow just heard about the terrible fire in AUS please check back in to let us know that youre ok. 9 drops I am so happy youre getting there.
PNJ- did you see that fire in AUS pretty bad- lot of people got hurt. We havent heard from PAUL I can only hope him and his family wasnt involved.
mel 11 drops omg- youre getting there. how are you feeling? I didnt feel issues till I got to 13-14 drops so we shall see.
canada youstarted 5/6days ago. what dose are you at? anyone blogging their daily experience.
grateful havents heard from you in a while. Youre gonna take the resolve extension? you plan to stick with MMS?
g4l- how are your doses? are you feeling any better?
Hey Techie: I'm doing ok. I'm taking 12 drops as I type this message. I'm just hoping and praying that all goes well for myself and everyone taking MMS. I'd hate to start having the horrible nausea now that I'm almost near the big 15. I've started taking my vitamins again in between doses. I take fish oil and vitamin C and I found some mutli's that I had so today I will take all three about 4 hours after this does. I'll report back a little later.....
good morning everyone, well im at 12 drops and still fighting this outbreak, i feel like its been nonstop since the 27'th of last month. This is weird as they have never ever ever been this bad. when did everyone else outbreaks stop, at what dosage level
pnj, thank you for your reply.
tech, they are still bother me an i feel like crap, but i am adjusting, i will be on tonight. around nine or so. gotta pick up my best friend from grey houng he is comin in from detroit. YAY, thank you for the concern.
I have been gone from here for a few days. I went through hell with MMS. I was doing fine with the 15 drops/3x/day and whamoo...I went from feeling great to sick in bed with nausea (vomiting) and diarrhea. My stomach and body felt like a train wreck! It seems I can handle a few days with the 15 drops but if everything is not just right with my eating...I pay for it. I have not taken MMS since Friday night. Yesterday I was nausea all day and was sick in the morning. My body seemed to be telling me no more. It didn't help my yeast problem either...I ate carbs and fruits and other foods that I shouldn't of just to calm my stomach down... What a rollercoaster ride. I even have molecula silver and a parasite detox coming in the mail.
So I really don't want to start MMS again, I am getting the second round of Resolve in the mail...thinking about letting my body rest until it arrives. I usually eat fairly healthy but not lately...so I am thinking to get my eating habits back to being healthier and I need to exercise. I have felt like crap since the end of October when I started this journey with Resolve and at the end of December with MMS. Yes, I have been taking MMS since Dec 29!
My intentions with MMS was to work on my yeast problem and not so much of H. But I got consumed about getting rid of H and the yeast became much worst. I hate to back off of MMS but I am going to wait for the second round of Resolve and do that. Towards the end of March is my 90 days for Resolve. I am so impatience. Perhaps I should just see if Resolve helps me....I can always go back and start MMS again. And there is always TrueCures.
Thanks for the venting.....I am in the state of confusion right now!
Thanks everyone!
Wishing younegative score PNJ!!!!!! It could be possible this early!!!!
GRATEFUL - MMS cannot help you if you refuse to take it correctly. Throughout your therapy, you skipped doses, got far too aggressive, and refused to be consistent. Given that Resolve contains a far smaller amount of the active ingredient in MMS, I seriously doubt you'll have significant results with it either, especially since it appears you are unable to follow a steady protocol.
My apologies if I am being too harsh, but I believe it's important to say this to you. It's important because I do not feel it's fair to others who are taking MMS correctly to have to read such disappointing comments in regards to results from a person who never took it correctly to begin with. I read your comments on the other HUB, and I was equally disappointed. You cannot expect a therapy to work if you refuse to follow the directions and take it consistently.
Let me try this again!!!
Wishing you a negative score PNJ!!!!!! It could be possible this early!!!!
AZ1 - I never knew much about Mono until recently, but I believe I could have been infected with that some time ago also. It's funny how our side effects and symptoms seem to mirror each other sometimes. I'm so happy you're finally over your fatigue hump!!! You should be feeling great very soon. I was doing good around 9 drops, and by the time I reached 10-11 drops, I was feeling great.
TECH - Yes, I've been hearing about the fire and I hope there's no yoda connection!
MELISSA - You can avoid that by going slow. I'm glad to see you've made it this far.
FIRERAGE - I had an OB the first week of my MMS therapy, but it was reduced to a pin-sized blister that was gone in 2 days. After that, I experienced no more OB's. It's been about 2 months now. It will be different for everyone depending on how aggressive the strain they carry. Hang in there. I'm sure things are happening. Just be sure not to compromise your doses or skip right now, or you'll invite trouble, as herpes will replicate immediately.
Thank you everyone for the positive feedback in regards to my retesting tomorrow. I certainly hope I will have some great news to share next week. I've been doing all I can to mentally prepare!
Pnj: I believe I have been positive throughout this ordeal. I was giving an update to how I was doing with MMS. I too think it is not fair not to let people know what can happen to them, so they can be prepared. I have keep a written record of MMS. I am one of those people that follow directions...I took MMS just like it said to take. The same with Resolve..and didn't have any problems. I know that I skipped a few doses, but backed down the doses and worked back up. I was so sick I couldn't help it. I had to follow my instinct. I know I am not the only person struggling out there right now and others have posted about their struggles. I thought this was a place to converse with others and give encouragement! I may have to try it a different way than the average person is doing. How long have you been taking MMS? Do we have any physical proof that it works...I am not being negative, I too am being blunt...it is a faith just like all the people doing Resolve and other therapies.
You also said I made comments on the other hubs? What comments did I make? I always try to be positive. You have only had H for a short time...I have had it for over 20 years. It can be very discouraging. I only have hope and faith in the cure for H.
I have been lurking on the original for a year now this month...been posting since Fall 08...I have read many so called "cures", many of the hubbers trying them....I myself don't mind being a guinea pig. Do I have to walk on "eggshells" to post here?
Pnj, I am not attacking MMS or you. What is wrong with honesty of how one is doing on a therapy? That is the only way others can learn too.
GRATEFUL - I in no way took your comments as an attack on anyone. We have all followed your posts here, and it was obvious to me from day one that you were not following the correct protocol. If my words seemed harsh, I again apologise, but I feel it was important to point out for anyone who is currently taking MMS. Your honesty is much appreciated, but you'll have to accept my honesty as well.
I know this may not be necessary, but I want to explain my comments to GRATEFUL, as they relate to the original HUB. When a few of us finally decided against trying Resolve and instead going with MMS Therapy, we faced a lot of opposition. Many posted "dangers" on the original HUB that were totally unfounded, and many posted "serious adverse reactions", that were equally unfounded if following the correct protocol.
To break through all the confusion and give us all some peace of mind, where we could do this therapy in peace, I created this HUB and my own blog so that newbies could track my progress and know what to expect. Plenty also created their own blogs, and this was a great help to those wanting to understand alternative therpies. I followed the protocol to the letter and did several months of research on MMS before even trying it, so I know what it does and what it does not do.
My greatest concern in the original HUB was that many individuals would try MMS (or at least claim they did), use it incorrectly and/or far too aggressively, and then report to others that it does not work. This concern has now been realised, like I knew it would eventually, and I'm speaking out against it because far too many of us have benefitted from using MMS (correctly) to be subjected to this once again.
For MMS to work, you have to take it slowly so as not to bogg your body down. You should also start with a modest approach first and never skip doses on a regular basis. The general protocol for MMS is 15 drops 2x daily, always starting with 1 or 2 drops, and upping your drops by 1 drop daily. It is usually necessary at the larger doses to up your drops every few days or even weekly to give your body time to adjust. Failure to do this will result in feeling very ill and having very little long term improvement.
Understand this, everytime you skip, herpes is working overtime to replicate. Everytime you get too aggressive, your body will be too busy eliminating toxins and dealing with the waste to pay any attention to whatever virus you are trying to eliminate. You simply cannot heal properly when your body is too bogged down to do anything.
I hope this makes sense to most of you, as it seems to fall on deaf ears for some. Some of us will indeed need a more aggressive approach, but that should be done AFTER following the general protocol. By then, your body will be used to the higher doses and much of the toxins will be eliminated. I have stated before that, depending on my viral numbers next week, I may begin a more aggressive approach if necessary (and I hope it is not).
For those of us wanting to do MMS 3x daily, I have come to realise that if we up our drops by one each day, that will equate to upping your drops by 3 each day. This is far too aggressive, and I believe this is why I felt ill before when I tried this. The correct approach is probably to continue 15 drops 2x daily, and begin an afternoon dose at 1 drop, upping by 1 drop daily until you reach 15. In that way, you are not affecting your morning and evening dose, and you are slowly getting your body accustomed to 15 drops 3x daily.
I cannot possibly exaggerate when I say that in regards to MMS, slower is better!
Techie - Ya I started a daily blog but honestly don’t know how to direct anyone to it. It's under CANADA25. I took 13 drops this morning. Still no problems at all really, other than it's horrid to drink. Will try 13 drops tonight. Am torn between PNJ28’s advice on here to go slower, and Jim's suggestion that you keep upping the dose by a drop each time until you feel nauseous.
“2. If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduces the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous.” J Himble
I am taking it with just distilled water, often on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. I feel almost guilty, but I really don’t seem to be having any problems at this point!
Pnj28 -I do think we need to limit any criticism on here about individual journeys. This is a pretty positive blog and I get inspired by it. But until we see someone test negative having followed one protocol or another there really is no saying which is the correct way to go. Jim’s book describe a slow and steady increase in doses as mentioned above, but also recounts radical doses that led to the same positive results. Just saying that there really doesn’t seem to be absolutes! Having different people trying different methods could be good, as with any luck someone will test negative and be able to recount their method. Of course it goes without saying that if I end up in bed like Grateful you get to pass on one giant “I told you so!” ;o) I am totally pulling for you regardless of the test results. Good luck this week!
CANADA - What you read was not a criticism of journey, but a criticism of dosage. You cannot say something doesn't work if you didn't use it correctly. That was my only point, and I believe it was a fair and true statement, like it or not.
Jim's instructions for increasing dosages are general. The point is to take your doses consistently and listen to your body. The best way to prepare yourself for the higher dosages is to go slow in the beginning, as I can promise you, when you get to a dose that will require some adjustment, it will be harder to deal with if you are upping your drops per dose.
I think it's important not to get caught up on the small stuff. Whether you read to up your drops per dose, day, or week, you should be listening to your body and going slow. If you take it 3x daily and you're getting violently ill, as was the case with GRATEFUL, that means stop and reduce your dose, not skip and get more aggressive next time. If some feel I was too harsh in saying that, my apologies, but I thought the point here was to get cured.
PNJ
It seems that alot more people are not get the results from Resolve as expected.
I think pnj will truly be one of the first to test negative and many more here will follow in your footsteps.
All's fair... getting rid of this s**t is what we all want. Suspect that we're all over-sensitive because we all understand the impact it's had on our lives. My daily blog for what it's worth is at "canada herpes blog 76".
804 couldn't agree more!
CANADA - When you go to your blog page, copy and past the url at the top. I will put it on this HUB so we can follow your progress.
AZ1 - Would you also repost your url? Would it be ok to add it to this HUB?
I know no one asked for my two cents but I want to jump in too. I am not a negative person nor a debaters so I hope no one takes my comments as such. Grateful i talked to you in chat so I hope you take none of this personally as its directed at any particular person.
We come here and we trial by error. No one has tested negative so we dont have a set way YET but we do have each other. For the people who have gone through it we know slower is better. While Humble maystate in his literate up each dose- read in context. He also says in the same paragraph that if nausea vomiting and rhea occur to back down even mention backing down 2-3 doses. this in essence is backing down a day and a half if you are upping at each dose. The whole point in taking it slow is to PREVENT these setbacks from even happening. the advise from this hub to take things slowly is not to prevent anyone from reaching their goal- but to make the MMS process as smooth as possible. We know its not an easy treatment but it can be a smooth one if approached correctly.
It was mentioned from Humble to take it with water or juice. We have heard from everyone who has tried with water that at some point- it gets to be a bit much. Most of us cant bear the juice taste.
I was with PNJ from the beginning before this hub ever existed. We use to post on the "original hub" but so much drama was over there I suggested that she create this place to avoid a lot of the issues we were seeing over there. She didnt build this house to tear people down as some may take her remarks to be in attack mode. This place is a safe haven for us. We feel safe from those who claim this is a scam or call us foolish etc.
We need not lose sight of the goal. The goal is 15drops but its a journey to get there. I thought I would get there in 7 days- and here I am on day 21 and still havent gotten there. We cant assume that our bodies will only be helped when we get to 15drops. We must realize that even the small amounts of MMS is still doing us some good.
No one is going to have an I told you so complex (least I hope not) but its getting to feel like the reason this hub was created is being lost. Its almost best now to let people learn for themselves the nono's of MMS. We dont want people to feel like MMS is confined to a small box- however some of us truly know the problems that COULD be encountered.
Hey all. Wow! Drama on the hub! lol. Nah, not really, but I do agree with PNJ in that doses just cannot be compromised, nor can one rush their journey through impatience. I've been extremely patient and have gone very slowly. In fact, I've been sitting on 7/8 drops for nearly 2 weeks now. 7 drops was my "sore point", and of course where I experienced mild discomfort. Note the word, "mild", as I didn't allow it to escalate, and instead of upping my dose too quickly, I dropped back to 6 drops at night. Then I'd go back to 7 in the morning and all was well. I'd do 7 drops that night, and then 8 in the morning. Now 8 has also been my "sore point", and I've experienced extreme fatigue, fog brain and nervousness. No cramps as such, but I knew my body was struggling, so I dropped back to 7 drops at night, and tried 8 drops again in the morning. Same deal, so back to 7 drops at night. Then only yesterday, it was the first day in 5 that I could handle 8 drops without feeling fatigued beyond repair. In fact, I felt GOOD yesterday! So good, that I couldn't bloody sleep! lol I was energised so had a late night. Well, paying for it today, but you know, the point is, I'm giving my body time to adjust to the dosages, BEFORE the cramping or nausea sets in. LISTEN to your body peoples, because it's all we've got that speaks the truth!
And for anyone who doubts MMS and its efficiency or power of healing, all I can say is, each to their own. I can FEEL it working in my body and I have this profound "spiritual" connection with it as it works its way through the gunk that has taken 40 years to build up in my body. Not only is seeing believing, but so is feeling and being in tune with your body. MMS isn't about curing us, it's about helping our bodies to cure itself, and that in itself is a journey..... a very spiritual one. Believe!
Techie - The fires have been dreadful here in Melbourne and my heart goes out to those who have suffered and lost their homes and loved ones. We're lucky as we're 16 hours plane flight north, however I wish I could be there to help in any way I could. Thanks for the sentiment and for caring!!!
PNJ - I take comfort in reading your blog as it states the very things that I went through on 7/8 drops, and I've pretty much copied your protocol in dropping back where needed. As for mono, I absolutely think I did contract this. Looking back now, it explains the tingling and numbness I had in my joints as well. The fatigue was unbelievable, and the feeling I had the other day, mimicked that feeling I had 18 months ago. It all makes sense now. Amazing how it was just "gone" yesterday.... which tells me that MMS has done its bid. Obviously my body struggled with removing the waste, so I dropped back the dose to 7 drops again Saturday night, and upped again to 8 on Sunday. MMS is working for me because I'm listening to my body... to almost paranoia I think. lol.
Oh, and it's fine to put my blog on this page! The link is: http://az1-virusfreeliving09.blogspot.com/
I haven't updated it for a week, but I'll do it today, and I'll stay on it this time.
P.S. Good luck with your test! If it helps any, I am terrified of needles too and I'm a fainter lol. So I have to lay down and not look. In fact, the nurse has to distract me with some sort of convo to keep my mind off what she's doing, and she can't tell me when she's doing it.. and, lol, she has to be quick or I chicken out. I'm STILL like this, after having 3 c-sections (whilst awake!!!), and after having 3 big horse needles in my back and into my spine. Haha! It's all in the mind, but you know, you can do this. Just think of me when you sit down to take the test, and think... "geez, az1 had a bloody horse needle stuck in her spine"... lol.
az1- so glad to hear from you. Yes was BEYOND worried. I love how you state this is a spiritual battle with your body- I am right there with you hon. I find it so ODD that you have been toiling with the fatigue for 1-2 weeks now and the MOMENT it was identified what the problem was- you was able to over come it. Its like from a spiritual POV once we knew what to CALL OUT- it was done. I am so happy to see you up to 9 drops.
Im still at 14drops the plan was to go to 15tomorrw but I may just stay here a day or so- not really sure just yet. Ill know by how my body feels come morning.
My words, while direct, were said in an effort to help and heal, nothing more. The essence of this HUB has not changed. But I think it's important to say that being direct does not equate to being negative. The positive message and environment will remain intact, and anything that goes against that will be deleted. I don't want any of us to feel like we need to defend our experience, nor is this the place to find "action" and clever arguments. I'd like for us all to do this right the first time around, so that when people wish to hear about our journey, they'll understand how we did it and how MMS works, not misinformation. I feel this is so important because of all the misinformation that is already floating about. Going back to the dream I had about my dog's leash being wrapped around a chair, sometimes doing the right thing at first seems like the wrong thing. It's our faith that keeps us on the path.
AZ1 - I think this why many of our journeys will differ slightly. Our bodies are our guides. I'm happy to see you marching along. The fact that your tolerance is building is a sure sign that toxins are being removed. Just don't go out drinking and skip a dose like I did when I got cocky, lol! I am going to use the visual you gave me for my doctor's appointment tomorrow, haha!
good evening everyone well today was a rough day, i applied mms directly obviously activated but undiluted to my never never lands and holy mother of crap but ya know what after a minute then washing it off bingo i feel great down there and i have been repeating it every 8 hours other han an intial sting hence my comment above it feels pretty good. Made it to twelve this morning but got sick as all can be today faucet turned on and flooded the bathroom. Now back to normal i'm going to try once more tonight then if the same persists hodl steady at 11 for a while.
Hey group, was reading through the comments. Please don't interpret things as negative when they simply are not intended to be. I totally appreciate PNJ28's advice, and the other thoughts and suggestions made here. My comment about "being able to say you told me so" are more directed against the way I will feel if following my own path hits a bump that PNJ28's good advice could have avoided. Nothing more.
I was wondering about one thing though. I truly haven't been having problems with MMS and reading the notes don't really understand why. (Well the taste still is rough so I throw it back so it doesn't spend any time in my mouth! Even then it's rough!) Is it a weight/body mass thing? I'm sitting around 195-200, so could it be that there's more of me to absorb the MMS so it hasn't hit as hard? any thoughts?
FIRERAGE101 - Have you tried using it as a spray solution? If you make it that way, I've noticed it doesn't burn and you can keep it on.
CANADA - I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "I told you so", and I honestly don't believe that statement belongs on this HUB. We're all on the same journey, and if someone is taking something incorrectly, we are all here to offer advice and help one another. You may have missed this, but everyone has contributed information about therapies here, so the advice is shared amongst us all. In regards to taking your own journey, your health is your responsibility. That is why we are all here in the first place. But if one of us was to step away from the proper protocol of MMS or any therapy for that matter, I absolutely would call them on it if they made claim on my HUB that it didn't work based on their approach. If I were trying to shut anyone up, I would delete the post and save myself the energy of responding. I would really like it now if we could get off this topic, as it's taking away from what we're here for. I see no reason to defend anything I've written anymore than anyone else, so it ends there for me.
If I recall correctly, on the MMS site, the measurements are 3 drops for every 25 pounds. You may need to increase your dosage if you have a much larger body mass, but the general protocol will be fine for most.
woow guys I made it to 15 yesterday but it didnt last to long. About 2-3 hours later I got nausea, ate an apple drank some orange juice and wha-la it all came up. Need I say more I stayed in the bed for the rest of the day with sharp pains coming every now and then. Today I went back to 14 drops so much better a lil cramping every now and then but once I ate a good meal was better. I'll probably do like Teach and stick to 14 a few more days....
PnJ good luck..How long does it take for the numbers to come back?
Hey for all the ladies was your menstrual normal once you started taking it. Mine came a week early and usually last for 3 days but now Im goin on 4? Sorry if TMI but I was just wondering...
PNJ
I have used it as a spary in the past, mixed approx 20 drops mms to 40 lemon jucie, (strong mixture) added clean water etc, but i really didnt feel the ffects. I didnt dilute it at all this last time just straight 10 and 50, and it burnt like hell but now i feel pretty good down there. Who knows maybe i fried my poor guy but it doesnt hurt anymore or burn or itch for that matter. Still sick as all can be on 12 drops i think im going to have to stay steady for a while on this. Makes me ill and naucies as well as faucet efffect. Going to order the silver like GODFORLIFE did. i will report more tommorow. im off to bed
DONTKNOWY - I struggled at the higher doses also, but no, no effect on my periods really. If anything, they are now quite spot on. When I finally reached 15 with no serious side effects, I actually did a happy dance, lol. It takes about 2-3 days for the results, so I should know something by Wednesday.
FIRERAGE - I'm sure you fried it alright, lol. I tried it straight like that a couple of times and by the time 1 minute has passed, I KNEW it was time to wash it off. I'll be looking forward to seeing how it goes with the Silver.
Well, I went to see my Naturopath today for my monthly visit, and she is following my MMS journey. She prescribes MMS for Cancer and MS, and results have been good. She has never prescribed it for HSV, however she's interested in my journey, and is helping me along the way. Based on my individual needs, she has told me to restart NeuroCalm supplements (they help with anxiety and nervousness), of which I've been getting quite a bit of lately. She said the mind and body need balance, and if I'm nervous and tense, the body can't remove toxins properly, and thus cannot fully heal. She also prescribed Zinc & Vitamin C, to be taken in the middle of the day with food, so that it doesn't counteract MMS, and she also prescribed Magnesium (for muscle / heart health), and a very potent multi vitamin. She said that MMS, combined with these supplements, will help the "sweeping out" process, that will in turn help my immune system to work to its optimum in fighting and clearing out toxins. She also stated that this is very much a spiritual journey as our cells are more or less vibrations of energy that are ultimately linked to the universe and its massive energy. She emphasised the NEED for meditation and positive thought whilst on this journey. Without it, the journey is only half fulfilled. She truly is amazing and I take comfort in knowing that she is following and supporting my journey. She also reinforced the importance of going slow on the journey of healing. In fact, it's imperative for success. Disease and illness have accumulated over many years and it's not something that can be literally "stripped" from the body in mere days or weeks. It's a gradual process, especially for the body to recuperate. In essence, although she isn't allowed to use the word "cure" for supposed incurable diseases, she stated that HSV, along with HIV, MS and other illnesses are most definately curable by the body when it's functioning at a certain level of vibration, and it has been proven! MMS, lifestyle, nutrition, supplements, meditation and positive thought all support this required level of vibration. However she said it is something that should be done gradually as the body needs to clear itself of minor pathogens first (and believe me, there are many that we don't know about!), before it can rid itself of the nasty, clingy ones.
So for those who don't believe, you are the master of your destiny and your own health and wellbeing. Faith, determination and a "steady as she goes" attitude is something that we should all be working towards.
Good luck tomorrow PNJ, I'll be thinking of ya! Remember, horse needle in the spine imagery... that could've been you! lol
PNJ: I got everthing crossed over here. I mean everything.. I am going to start the MMS as soon as mine gets here..I hope and pray you get the results you want so that I can think about uncrossing some body parts over here, if you know what I mean.. I want to find that lifetime soulmate without having to tell this secret...lots of love, always..denni
well 22days later- and some 40+ drops I have finally reached my goal. today is my first day at 15 drops. 14drops gave me HELL but I have managed to work my way. I tell you my head is spinning from having to count them 70-75 drops and messing up and having to redo but this is the home stretch for me. I am halfway done (least I hope) I have three more weeks to go at the 15drops and then we shall see.
PNJ sending angels your way to comfort you. Hope all is well.
Denni LOL you are so funny- glad to see you are alright.
Ok well enough stalling, I've decided to start taking my MMS tonight. I'll start with a drop tonight, and probably do a drop twice tomorrow then start building up one day at a time. It's going to be three weeks before I'm overseas and I just want to get this thing started. I'm flying down to Texas to see my sister this weekend and will be there without much to do for about twelve days. Since it's a short flight I know I can keep pace with the doses that day. I've been nervous about transporting an opened MMS package in my luggage, but I've decided to start by mixing it with lime juice so that I can keep the citric acid solution sealed until I get to Asia. I'm not really nervous to start taking it anymore because most people haven't reported side effects until about the 7 drop mark. Plus I have to take a medical exam when I get overseas and they can deport you if they find certain diseases, but I'm almost positive H isn't one of them. Still it will ease my mind knowing I've already begun killing off some of the wretched viruses in my body. It's really difficult finding juice without any added no-no's, but I found some natrual apple juice to use for now. I'm a bit concerned for when I get overseas, though. Oh well, wish me luck!
Hey one quick question. I really don't drink much, but when I get down to Texas I will surely have a few beers with my brother-in-law. Is it ok to have a few in moderation while on MMS? I about 200 lbs, so my tolerance is pretty good. I'll probably have about 3 beers on two different occasions while I'm there, at least thats what I anticipate. I won't be drinking to get drunk. Should I skip my dose for that night? I will likely still be on low doses, I couldn't really imagine drinking at all at 15 drops. But still I'm curious, any thoughs or advice welcome.
Packman - I'm a huge Guinness fan and my life just isn't complete without it a few nights a week after training. I'm pretty much a lightweight though, holding the line at two. I'd have to go check, but seems to me somewhere in one of Jim's books he mentions something about moderation, but not abstinence.
Thanks Canada,
I figured a few here and there would be ok as long as I don' t overdue it. Like I said I don't drink much anymore but occasionally like to have a spirit or two socially. I doubt I could handle more than two if I were drinking Guinness, but I usually drink red beer like Killians.
oh btw everyone I got my molecula silver in the mail today. I am going to wait until I hit the 15 drop mark before I start taking it though, because I only have a two week supply and it is quite expensive to be a consistent part of my regimine...
Ok i got my mms taday. I got some question's but i am on my way out the door so i will asl tanight in chat. TTYL
Good evening everyone, well ordered silver yesterday, actually expect to have it as early as tommorow it was being shipped from 4 hours away. haha. Anyway's also recieved my lauricidin, so here we go. At 12 drops holding steady for a few then silver with lauricidin and hopefully all goes well. I hate this thing, and can not beleive i came down with it. I do not do not want to have to explain this if i find a girlfriend. I would like to think im an attractive guy but can see where this may chaneg the mind of someone. Anyways i wish you all luck.
PNJ did you get tested today, im praying for you
Hey all, well another OB today. I felt a mild padrome last night... in a different spot! I've dropped back again to 8 drops, rather than 9, as I know that with an OB, my body won't be able to handle the higher doses. The OB is small and came up very quickly (usually I get padromes for 2 or 3 days before an OB), and it's only been there for 4 hours and is dieing already. I feel a bit nauseaus as well and mild tummy pain, which tells me that MMS is doing its stuff against this sucker. The OB is self inflicted by the way. I've been under a lot of stress and have been living on 4 hours sleep... a playground for H! It should be a lot worse though, but it's not. I can FEEL MMS working on this sucker.. I really, really can! Hopefully it's getting to the actual source, rather than just the OB. I'm so tired today and will need to rest to help my body fight, but thought I would share this with everyone as, although it's disappointing to be getting an OB, the point is, it should be a lot more painful, and be lasting a lot longer, but it's not! I'm going to try topical MMS as well today and will post it in my blog.
How'd you go today PNJ? Any horse needles in the spine lately? lol OMG, that is so not funny! Oh well, I always like to look on the bright(er) side of life.... and well, I have typical dry Aussie humour. lol
Sorry i haven't been on this site, i have been in a great deal of pain because of my chest. i went to the doctors today and i tore a muscle around my heart and i had heart burn to add to all that. So needless to say its Pain City for me. I am just happy that all the test came back that i am normal.
AZ1- sorry to hear about your outbreak. To answer your questions i am 23 years old and i do have a bad back as well, which i know causes arm numbness.
Techie, i am doing better now that i have the right medication. Thanks for your concern.
PNJ- did you survive the needle poking today? I hope it all went well.
Godforlife - Sorry to hear about the pain you've been through. Can I ask how you tore a heart muscle at 23? You are too young for that! Glad to hear you're on the mend and hope you're feeling better soon. Also, can I ask what the Dr said about you being on MMS? Did they even recognise MMS?
To everyone who takes MMS with water, how the hell do you do it???? Ran out of juice tonight so had to have it with water. OMG, argh! I'm currently on 8 drops and I filled that glass full of water, yet the chlorine during and after taste completely superseded the "lemony" flavour that was prominent at lower dosages. Had to have milk straight after and the sucker is still repeating on me. It's like I've drank a pool full of water. Why do it to yourself when you can mask the taste with juice! LOL
Hi MMS family! hope all is well sorry I have not posted in a while I'm getting ready to move states :D yippieeee.... I tried scrolling up to see any word about pnj28's testing.... but I couldnt find it...
pnj28: how did your testing go! I'm excited to hear about it :)
So far so good, I'm officially part of the club!
Hey Peanutbutter..cant wait for those results. Thank you for hanging out last night. Had a great time. Now go wake up Techie for me ;)
AZ1 - I'm so glad you've got a therapist on board. I know she's your Naturopath, but we're all her patients here in a way, so I truly look forward to your visits with her. I fought tooth and nail to triumph against my fear, and I made it! I marched my bum right into that doctor's office, I closed my eyes, and I thought of England, lol. I tried to imagine you with the horse needle, but the thought of any needles sent me through the roof, haha! Afterwards, I wiped all the sweat off my nose and brow and treated myself to some chips and a light beer with mates. I'm so glad MMS is killing your OB! We know MMS is not a suppressant, so herpes will continuously do it's thing until it's out of your system. It's a good sign that your OB's are far less severe. I look forward to the day you are OB free!
DENNI - LOL! Well I hope I've got some great news for you this week. I don't have men on my mind too much to be honest, but I'd certainly like to be done with mr. herpster!
TECH - I'm playing the Olympic finish line music for you!
PACKMAN - Much love and support coming your way, and welcome to the family! And I agree because it's at the smaller doses where MMS does it's magic. The 15 drop mark is simply to ensure the clearing is complete. Drinking in moderation never affected my MMS dosages, but you should understand that drinking can counter your efforts in healing so be careful. Herpes thrives on alcohol.
FIRERAGE101 - It's been done, so now we wait. Depending on the results, I may be ordering a supply of Silver myself. I completely understand where you're coming from and we all feel you on that one. I haven't yet decided what I will do in terms of talks, but I will certainly be requesting test results the next time I even think about being intimate with someone.
GODFORLIFE - I was wondering where you went. I'm glad you're doing well, and I'm glad we finally know what was behind all that chest pain and numbness! Yes, I finally took the plunge and got poked, so I'll post my results as soon as I have them.
MINNIE - The results take 2-3 days. Moving? How exciting!
MAS - Well lookie who's graced me with a post, lol. Did you have a nice nap before work?
PNJ28 - Congrats! You did it... but you were supposed to think of the Queen! .... But England's good too!
Arrived at 15 drops last night, and again this morning. As you predicted, I'm feeling a bit nauseous. :o) Manageable but definitely sending me the message that enough is enough. Don't think I'll be upping the dose any time soon.
Was hoping you might be able to send me a link that discusses the “silver” that is being talked about. Would like to determine if it’s something I should be considering. I will beat this thing!
AZ1 – Well I mix that water with Scotch! (Kidding!) I think this stuff is nasty no matter what. If I keep on with MMS they won’t need to embalm me! I just throw it back, swallow fast, and shudder! I’m beginning to wonder if the cure isn’t worse than the disease! OK, not really, but dam near!
PNJ28 - Are you still upping your third daily dose? Also how many days do you suggest I stay on the 15 x 2/day program?
CANADA - The advice on taking the Silver was from GODFORLIFE. She wrote an email to someone who works with Jim Humble, and he suggested Molcula Silver in tandem with MMS for more resistant strains of HSV. If my numbers are high, I will try that route. You should email GODFORLIFE, and perhaps she can expand on that. I have not yet emailed anyone at MMS, but I plan to.
I am on the fence about taking MMS 3x daily. I understand that it has been recommended for some, but I would much prefer to see how my numbers turn out after following the general protocol before getting that aggressive. If I decide to go that route, I will probably continue my 15 drops 2x daily, but include 1 drop in the afternoon, slowly increasing that afternoon drop daily. It seems like any other approach would just spell trouble.
PS. I tried to think of the queen, but she scared me, LOL!
started 14 drops today and so far all is well, I'm not complaining. I will take my evening dose and if all is well I will up to 15 drops in the AM. So far I've experienced, mild nausea, stinky gas, itchiness for a couple days in the "private" area (minor OB) and a few aches and pains but none of the syptoms made me feel uncomfortable. I tend to drink my mix slower...over the alotted 60 minutes or less...could this be why I haven't had major symptoms??? Anywho, I pray for all of us to get better/free while going thru this journey.....
YAY, PNJ took her test...here's to that big Negative result---cheers.
PNJ - Yayy! You did it! Let's drink to the hope that you won't have to have any more needles.... *gulp*.
And you know, I take great comfort in the fact that my Naturpath is on this journey with me. And she's not some back yard dodgy brothers therapist either, she's 2nd best Naturopath in all of Oz, and there are many! Her clinic is huge and she has therapy rooms with gadgets and machines for all sorts of things. In addition, her knowledge is unbelievable and she's actually reversed scar tissue on the brain from MS, on 2 patients. Now that is amazing! MS is supposedly incurable, yet she has cured it. She's not allowed to say she cured it though... aint that the pits? I'm seeing her in another month's time, so I'll keep you all informed.
Canada - LOL. I still don't know how you do it. Argh. My hubby drinks 15 drops with water, and even he says that it leaves a warm sensation in his chest for quite some time afterwards. I have to stop now, just the thought of it is making me feel argh, and I've gotta go and have my 9 drops now....... WITH JUICE!!! lol
There has been much speculation that the the singer Rihanna gave Chris Brown the herpes. He actuall punched her in the face at the grammy's and both of them had to cancel their shows. He went to jail;she had a black eye. This is the rumor on most radio shows. And this was said by someone close to both singers. I hope its not true. Both are so young.
804-its a mess in hollywood but i also heard the same thing. Supposedly she got it from Jay-Z. While I in no way condone Chris Browns actions- I am a woman and have never had a man to put his hands on me in violent way- as H sufferes here we know what this virus will make you do. We all have our HATE stories of when we found out and what we wanted to do to the person whom infected us. Its just very tragic that this thing continues to spread the way it does.
Good evening everyone, well this morining was extremely rough. I couldnt hold down the mms as i decided i enjoyed the taste so much i had to try it coming back up. (didnt taste much like pool wter at that point) My body is telling me no but i need to keep at this. I had it down for about an hour so i knwo it did it's job but now i'm debating skipping this evening dose but really really know i shouldnt may just cut it back to 7 or so. The try again tommorow. To add insult to injury instead of recieving silver the package contained more mms and citric acid.
PNJ Congrats on your test, i wish you the best
So how long before you get results
fire- we just missed each other!
what did you eat? as you get up there you have to eat more or else you will be emptying your tummy and its not nice.
you were at 12- you going down to 7?
Hey peeps,
Well I've finally gotten around to reading Jim Humbles book and I'm just about done with part one. For those of you that are debating whether or not to go to 3 doses a day, here is my opinion based on the info that is fresh in my mind: Jim mentions that a full dose is between 15 and 18 drops, and that when taken properly the sodium chloride will do its thing in your body for about 12 hours. So perhaps, it would be a better idea to take your doses maticulously at 12 hours apart. Just find the best time during the day where you know you can do them both. For me its around 11am and 11pm. I realize getting up to 18 drops is probably a tall feat for most of us, but maybe it is better than trying to introduce a third daily cycle. Personally, I am going to work my way up to 15 drops 2x per day, and then after holding steady at 15 for two weeks, start taking the molecula silver with it for another two weeks. This puts me at a month for the full dosage, and then I'll see where I'm at. I realize its gonna be easier said than done. I don't believe my strain is particularly aggressive, so I hope it will work. As we all know, everyone is different. Jim also mentions in the book that the way to fully treat malaria was to do 15 drops and another 15 one to four hours later. So by this logic, three doses a day isn't a huge no-no, I just don't think it is something I will try to do because the process of working up to 15 drops 3x a day seems like too high of a mountain.
This is coming from someone who has done no treatment for H in any way before discovering MMS. What a difference a few weeks can make! I'm just glad everything I'm doing is affordable because my budget is tight. Just out of curiosity, I'm going to describe my regimine and if anyone sees a problem with it please let me know. Above all, I just don't want to get halfway through the process and realize I'm making a stupid mistake. Here is what I'm doing:
MMS- just started, using lemon juice at the moment but will switch to citric acid in about two weeks. Taking the solution as directed with pure apple juice, no acids or vit C added
at least 4 hours after my morning dose- taking a general multivitamin, a 500mg natural Vitamin C tablet (originally to improve my gums, but now as general protocol), and 4000mg Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil Supplement.
Drinking plenty of water and adding trace minerals to the water to help raise pH levels
Never drink soda to begin with, but cut down to about 2 cups of coffee per week. Eating generally healthy, even at this early stage of MMS I feel the urge to not eat processed foods
Stopped using regular deodorant, switched to mineral salts with no Aluminum Chlorohydrate
At night, sleeping with biomagnets on the back of my neck to reduce stress and improve healthy sleep
As mentioned, will begin molecula silver when I reach the end phase of MMS
And that's about it. Even though it seems like a lot it doesn't really affect my regular daily routine that much. I was even surprised that I'm not offending after stopping the regular deodorant. I'm anxious to see at which point my body starts responding adversely to the MMS, as I seem to be a fairly healthy individual. The only thing I've notice so far is a bit of gas, which I suspect to be from either the coconut oil or trace minerals because that started before taking MMS. Sorry for the long post, but if you notice anything I'm doing that sounds wrong please let me know.
PNJ I am getting so nervous/excited to know your results! I have a good feeling....I'll say a few prayers anyways. I hope that everyone in this hub can beat this thing in 09 and start our lives over again! Positive thoughts, people.
Pacman - Hunny, I don't think ANY bug could be living in your body at the moment! LOL. It all seems pretty good to me and I agree with you about the 12 hours apart thing with MMS. I'm not sure about the 15 drops 3 x daily at this point. I'm currently up to 9 (upped dosage today), however once I've been on 15 for 3 weeks, I'll see how my results go. Naturally, we're all waiting on what the deal is with PNJ as her results will no doubt pave the way to what could be the next step, and hopefully that's NOTHING! Good luck PNJ!!!!!!
Fireage - you poor thing! You know, I stayed on 8 drops for 5 days before upping to 9 this morning. If I get one slight side affect, just the smallest thing, I stay on my current dosage. In fact, it's not until I have 2 full days of feeling fine that I up to the next drop. I truly believe that this is probably the best step in ensuring that MMS is able to do its thing, in conjunction with your immune system. Remember, steady as she goes.
hey guys- so I am on my second day at 15drops. For those who recall the weekend I was on 14drops and didnt have enough food and paid for it DEARLY!. So I knew to eat more. PEOPLE FOOD IS YOUR FRIEND- You need to eat :) well yesterday I had pancakes which was totally not part of my alkaline diet but i wanted to make sure I had enough to eat. I been avoiding junk food and most sweets and its been a nice challenge. So today didnt really want pancakes again so had cereal for breakfast. I know from the weekend I need 2bowls to be able to take my doses and not get ill. Well this AM I didnt eat two bowls had like 1 and 1.2 because I got full and couldnt eat anymore. So about 1hour after taking my mms i started to feel "trouble" and I was driving so didnt have anything in the car except the kiddies snacks. I debated about eating a bag of chips- I looked at all the ingrediants and decided against it. Few minutes later- I felt the 15drops trouble wasnt gonna let up- YAL I opened them chips so fast lol I didnt care at that moment. The day was fine I didnt get sick or anything and its back to pancakes tomorrow.
I have to say I'm pleased I discovered this blog... and it is beginning to sound like the United Nations.
Was out for a Guinness (surprised?) tonight with a PHD friend of mine who teaches nursing and deals with infectious diseases and the like, So I mentioned what I was up to with MMS, what I'm trying to accomplish, and asked about these antibody tests we're taking. She is going to do some research for me on what the numbers mean, but her "off the top" feeling is that once you have a virus you will always test positive for the antibodies, even if the virus has been expelled. More on this later.
AZ1 - any chance your husband drinks Scotch and Guinness? Maybe that's the trick!
Packman - 2 cups a week! My gaud, I can’t get through a morning without two cups!
PNJ28 - Thanks for the heads up on the silver!
Techie - OMG girl! That is just too funny! What would've been the compromise if you didn't have the kiddy chips? Hmmm, lol.
Pacman - Nope, he drinks beer and bourbon, but he's doing the MMS thing too, and he's being the tough "bloke" by having it straight with water. Argh
Anyone - Has anyone had a problem with acne or pimples? My face has and chest have broken out badly over the last few weeks, and currently it's at its peak. My skin is blotchy and yuck, so I'm thinking it's the toxins? Or maybe mercury? Or maybe it's just me?
Canada- Yeah, I haven't been a coffee drinker for very long. The last year or two I started with the sugary "coffee" drinks and just started drinking regular coffee with just some milk added (can't do it black) a few months back. When I read the advice about switching off regular deodorant, one of the main points was that if you drink coffee or soda you will still have body odor. So I've managed to cut back and only drink a cup on mornings when I really need it. I don't have to get early for work though, otherwise I'd expect it would be a much harder transition.
The thing about the anitbodies still being present is very interesting...any more info you can provide from your friend would be welcome.
Well just about time for my night time dose. At this point I'm actually excited to be taking it! But alas I haven't experienced any bad tastes or side effects yet....
AZ1 if it had not been for the kiddies chips Id had to stop at Dunkin or SOMEWHERE. Sunday was very very roough on me- I have learned my lesson FOOD IS MY FRIEND- FOOD WILL HELP ME. LOL
and yes i got the bad pimples too if you recall right around where you are. I looked like i needed proactiv or another acne product but I let them alone. There were everywhere- face- back- neck-other places. it was like herpes decided to play connect the dots with my body but happy to report thats its all gone. it will clear up but PNJ and many others went through this phase.
firerage I know you didnt post it here- but I really do hope you feel better. please let us know what you decide to do when you feel better.
Canada-Packman let me tell you I was a coffee ADDICT more so than a chat/hub addict. I would have Dunking on my way to work- McDonalds coffee once i got to work- an afternoon iced cofee or hot coffee and usually coffee at dinner. When I decided to do pH therapy I let that go and its been about 4+ weeks now and I no longer desire the taste of coffee. It was BRUTAL the headaches and the smell of it and I was rebellious (bought me a travel coffee maker lol knowing I cant use it ) but once a few days or a week passes the rought patch is over. As a mom of multiple children Ive had to give up coffee before but this by far was the worst lol.
Techie - I'm so pleased to hear that you went through a bad pimple phase like this... well, I'm not happy that you did personally, I'm just glad it's not me! I've got weird looking bumps on my forearms too! It's almost like they're a pimple, but with a blister looking thing at the tip. There's only 3 big ones, but there's new ones forming.... maybe 3 or 4? The pimples on my face are shocking and there's rash type pimples surrounding them, that also go down my neck, near my ear. It really is disgusting as I normally only get a few pimples leading up to my cycle, and generally have good skin, but these suckers are nasty! I've got 2 in particular on my face that just won't heal. They've been there for nearly 2 weeks. Argh! Do you really think it's H? Or is it just part of the detox?
PACKMAN - The suggestion of 3x daily was actually a suggestion from someone on the MMS website in regards to resistant viruses. Most of us pretty much agree that it's probably better to start with the the general protocol, as getting too aggressive early on could do more harm than good and actually set us back and make therapy longer. Also, the Molecula Silver could do the trick just fine should any of us need an added boost. Your routine is a lot more detailed than mine, but it looks good to me. Every little bit helps, and the main thing is to ensure nothing interferes with your dosages. We all changed our diets and habits to some degree, as MMS is nothing without our immune system, so any way we can help our bodies to be in top shape is a definite plus.
I'm excited as well! I have to say, it appears I'm fighting off a strange bug, as I've had a strange bout of weakness and "ick" all of a sudden. I'm not as concerned as I am annoyed. Of course, this could also be nerves... I, like you, am incredibly excited about what the next phase of my journey shall be! I'm sure I'll feel great in the morning.
TECHIE - You're lucky I'm not there in the morning because you would NOT be leaving that table until you've eaten ALL of your breakfast, lol!
CANADA - It's interesting you bring this up because many of us have said similar things in regards to antibodies. The truth is nobody really knows much about herpes, not even the "experts", so we're all just guinnea pigs at this stage. We don't know how long antibodies stay present, and as it stands, neither do the "experts". The point of me retesting was initially to see if there was some truth in the Resolve theory that antibodies disappear within 90 days once the virus is no longer present. Given what we know about Resolve, I take this with a grain of salt, but until they presented that theory, no one even thought about retesting, so this is a journey for all of us.
I reckon most of us are holding back on drawing conclusions until after our treatments. At the end of the day, that will be the only thing that sets things straight for sure. You can rest assured that if there is still virus present in my blood, I will most certainly try a slightly more aggressive approach (with Molecula Silver) and test again at a later date. Of course, if I test negative, we will have one hell of a boot scootin' party!!!
AZ1 - Yes and no. I didn't have any horrible acne outbreaks (it was only moderate and very tolerable), but I did notice my back being broken out more than usual. The skin was rough from what looked like toxins being expelled. What's interesting about this is I was born an asthmatic and have had problems with asthma and bronchitis all my life. Since arriving at the higher doses of MMS, I have not had a singe asthma attack, and my back has cleared, strange but true. I still get the usual zit here and there (I have oily skin and need to be diligent with my routine), but my skin is great now. My advice to you is to wash (gently) your face more often. I would do my normal routine morning and evening routines, but in the afternoon I would do a quick once over with a mild astringent or at least splash some water on my face. This will help wash away the toxins as they're expelled and prevent the outbreaks. The truth is I don't know what makes us break out. It could be this, that, or a combination of all. What I can tell you is MMS has a funny way of finding it's way into the tiniest places and blasting those suckers and mr. herpster wherever he lurks!
PNJ today is the big day. This is the day you find out how thebattle against H panned out! You know whose side Im on. Plus i can only imagine you here with me in the mornings ensuring all my breakfast is gone- the drops were just right- the timer went off exactly when it was supposed to- the juice (double and triple checking to make sure it was 100% natural) then making sure I had just the right amount of juice in my glass lol. Good thing you are not here to oversee my morning operations.
good morning everyone so far i feel ok today, i first need to thank godforlife and techie as the two of you convinced me not to give up on this. I couldnt do the full 12 or 13 drops yeterday night but did manage to get down 10 of them. Will try a full does at 12 again after breakfast.
Mas - Im off the gun shop to find my new toy (i'll let you know)
PNJ- I wish you the best of luck im praying for you, as far as antibodies i alays thought they were for life, thats how ceartain vaccines work. The numbers will drop low but i thought they always stayed present. Could be wrong.
Everyone else - in the famouse words of finding nemo, you have to keep on swimming hehehe
random post time sorry have to this time, i know it's not always the right thing but here it goes hehe
Im sure some of you can relate, random thought that ive heard before
Sleep is a symptom of caffeine deprivation
PNJ..pulling for success !
I think we are all going to voicechat tonight.
feel free to join us. get the client at teamspeak.com
under "downloads" click the very 1st download.
you can see the server info at viruscure.org.
come to chat if you need help.
FIRERAGE101 - We've all heard of that theory about antibodies, but again, with certain people testing negative or with low viral numbers using Resolve (I know some of them are questionable), we're all rethinking old ways of thinking. New facts about herpes is still being discovered everyday, so what we've learned is there really are no experts in this field. Even a lot of doctors don't know much about how herpes really operates. Scientists didn't discover that herpes does not "hide" until this past October 2008, which says a lot.
What it comes down to is the amount of antibodies in your system, which TECH can explain far better than I can. If they are high, then that signals a large amount of virus in your system. If low/very low/not present, then that would suggest that your viral numbers are low or not present. I also disagree with many in regards to symptoms. Given what I've learned about how our bodies and immune system work, I do believe that a DRAMATIC and SUDDEN cessation in symptoms is a sure sign that viral numbers are decreasing. The bottom line is we can theorize all we like, but we won't know until we know. I hope this helps.
MAS & TECH - I should know today or tomorrow.
pnj & company - yet another question. I bought my MMS from a Humble authorized supplier in western Canada. It arrived in a clear plastic bottle that has been stored largely in the dark in my fridge. So I'm reading Humbles 2nd book and he suggests that MMS degrades rapidly in light, and should therefore always be kept in the dark. Out comes the duck tape and the clear bottle is no longer clear... think there's any problem?
Otherwaise feeling good today. Have stayed at 15 drops, and all symptoms seem to have passed... Thank gaud!
CANADA - How had you been storing it before? My bottles are dark green so I'm quite sure we ordered from different places, but as long as you keep the bottles in a cabinet, drawer, or dark place you should be fine.
I have to say, I've been surprised by your lack of side effects for so long. Have you left the bottle out at all before, and do you recall ever hearing pressure released when you open it?
well everyone just an update, just did 12 drops again this morning ate first this time about an hours and half before, not feeling as bad with it this time but think i will be staying here for a bit on 12 till i get used to it. Minus the fact im still recovering from yesterdays mistake but i think the fact i held it down for as long as a did i still got the dosage i held it in for approx 2 hours before i brought it back out. Of course my body has thanked me repeatedly for it the last few days ya know the water faucet seems to be installed right now, but at least i got a good dose and hoepfully knocked the crap out of more than just my body.
PNJ im praying for you
All the best PNJ!!! I look forward to your negative results!
I got a late start today and was only able to do one dose at 15 drops this evening. So far, I'm ok. Really no side effects and I hope this continues. I would say I'm a lucky one because I have not really experienced any bad side effects. I had mild nausea, gas, ear pain, a few aches. Today I have noticed a new OB....YUK! Hopefully this will go away soon. I hope this means that MMS is working as well, maybe it's coming out to fight. but will get defeated..lol...Im lookin forward to completing the 2 possible 3 week therapy. By not having many side effects, I hope this means that I am relativley healthy :-)
Hey everyone im new here and i would just like to share that my doctor recommended this MMS to me and i am about to start on it today. So for those nay sayers saying its dangerous or does not work, i dont think so kus a doc sold it to me so that should give MMS some validation.
PNJ28 - By force of habit I tossed it in the fridge when I received it, so it's been in the dark except when I've taken it out for a dose. Never any pressure when I've opened it. Mine came from a Hubble recommended place in Alberta. I just assumed you are in the US...No?
I haven't been completely without symptoms. Had severe diarrhea for a couple of days. Not painful, just bloody inconvenient. Felt slightly nauseous during the week, but nothing serious, until I hit 15 drops, and it hit me back. Had to take a break mid afternoon to get horizontal for a few hours. Dreaded taking another dose that night. Today other than the dose itself I've had no problems at all.
I've fired a note off to the guy I got the MMS from to see if they have any comment. Will let you know what they come back with. I'd be mighty pissed if it turned out I'm drinking this stuff and it's no good!
Anxiously waiting for your test results! Good luck!
Hey all, well I missed a dose last night. Argh! I'm on 9 drops and usually any side affects (although always mild), usually appear 3 hours after, however on 9 drops, side affects are coming 5 hours after and lasting up to 4 hours. They're not severe at all, but the nausea got me good last night. I was tired and feeling really weird too, as well as nervous. I really wish this nervousness would pass, it's driving me insane! It's really quite an irrational feeling, and I know it's the toxins being cleared out of my system. I have a feeling that quite a bit of mercury may be being cleared out and I do need to see a dentist to have very old amalgams removed as I believe they may be leaking mercury.
So this morning I took 9 drops again and have felt fine until now, 5 hours later, and I'm starting to feel 'weird" again, as well as a little heady and very mild nausea. I'll now stay on this dosage until I have no side affects at all and then I'll up to 10 drops.
Ridinhigh - thanks for sharing that info with us. Although I've done the research and I'm comfortable taking MMS of my own accord, I take great comfort in knowing that my Naturopath is supporting me as well. It makes such a difference to have someone "in the know" in the wellness field who knows MMS and who recommends and prescribes it. It's not common for Dr's to suggest it, let alone even know about it, so that's great news! Good luck with it!
AZ1- i am sorry that you are having a rough time. As for your pimples, my face was horrible for the first couple of weeks-month, i had pimples on my neck, back and face. I had to wear ALOT of makeup to cover them up. I promise it does get better. I am sending you positive vibes, like you always send me
PNJ- I praying for your negative test results!!!
Firerage- you always crack me up
All- if anyone is interested in doing Molecula Silver with MMS, let me know and I will send you the link to the site and what you need to do to prepare for it. Its a rough one, but i know its going to be worth it. Also, yesterday was that time of the month and the H gave weak signals of an outbreak and no outbreak, it was great. I still have a month on this stuff, since i am restarting over because of my heart situation. Wish me luck! GOD BLESS US AND CURE US!!! AMEN!!
I wasn't aware that the MMS needed to be stored in a dark place....good to know. Luckily I kept it packed away until I started using it so I'm sure its still good. It may have sat out in my kitchen for one day, but you don't think that could deactivate it that quickly do you?
Well on 3 drops today, so far so good. Nothing to complain of, just a bit more gas than normal. Hey btw, how soon are y'all taking your morning dose after eating? Right away? Or are you waiting 30-90 minutes after having breakfast. Just wondering.
Godforlife- Yes I've already ordered my molecula silver and plan to do it with MMS after getting up to 15 drops for 2 weeks. Please post that link, thanks...
PNJ today's the day! Good luck!
PNJ: I know I haven't yet posted over here yet but just wanted to wish you the best of luck and let u know my thoughts are prayers are with you! love always, 'jericurl' ;)
Ok, so I don't want to keep anyone in suspense. I finally got my test results back and they showed a high level of antibodies still present in my body. My numbers are HSV1 - +5 and HSV2 - 4.81 to be exact. As you will recall, I have been OB free for over 2 months now and have had no sign of viral presence since the first week of my therapy. We all knew that getting retested so early was risky, so here is my thinking...
My results could mean 1 of 2 things: 1) I need to wait longer to retest so that my antibodies have time to drop in number, or 2) there is still virus present and I need a more aggressive approach. I'm inclined to believe my numbers will drop if I wait, but I, like many of you, would prefer to try a more aggressive approach to be on the safe side. I wish there was a way to test for Viral DNA, but I've had no luck in finding an office that will do this via blood test. The positive thing is, at least I now know what my antibody numbers are. There is no way to know if they have dropped, as I did not have this information before.
So the new path is this: 1) I will up my dosages until I reach 18 drops 2x daily for 3 weeks, 2) finally email Jim Humble to verify that Molecula Silver was indeed recommended as there is SO much misinformation out there, and 3) consult a Naturopath like AZ1. Consulting a Naturopath may be overkill, but it would be so lovely to have someone knowledgeable sitting beside me to tell me the things I don't understand.
I'm so sorry to disappoint some of you. I know quite a few of you were relying on this result to be your guiding light. Unfortunately, testing for antibodies is hit and miss and not very accurate in determining how much virus is in our system. What my test results truly indicate is that I have been exposed to herpes and my body produced antibodies to fight it. They do not indicate what my herpes status is at this moment or how much virus is in my system. So with that said, I probably won't truly know what's going on via antibodies test until I wait and allow my body to adjust. So let that be our light.
I can tell you that I continue to feel herpes free, but despite that, I will go with a more aggressive approach. I would hate to stop now only to realise I should have done more. I will post a new test date as soon as I have everything mapped out and let you know as soon as I receive a response to my email. Hopefully, it will shed some light or point me in the right direction.
PNJ- I'm sorry to hear about the results but I'm glad to see that you are still remaining positive and optomistic. Based on the information that you provided, I agree that we can't conclude that MMS doesn't work just yet. I still have faith in you, myself, and all of us that we are following the right path to cleanse ourselves. I think a bit more info and trail-and-error may be needed before we come to a solution that has a higher success rate. Keep on fighting, that goes for everyone!
All- PNJ and myself have been chatitng about this for 4+ hours. We both agree that the antibodies test dont reveal a whole lot. It is my opinion that the antibodies test is not the BEST method of testing for a cure. We use that method when testing to see if we have been infected- I however feel that a different test is needed to tell if something is cured. No one knows that magical time frame for antibodies to disappear so it could be 90 days or it oculd be more. For me all the antobodies test is we have at one point been infected. I strongly feel that the PCR test should be used to detrmine if the viral DNA is present however that test is not as easily performed as the IgG antibodies test. getting a PCR is harder and requires a little more effort- however its not impossible.
What we know for sure about antibodies is that high numbers does indiciate the body is fighting off an infection. I agree with PNJ doing a little more aggressive therapy cant hurt. When high numbers are present the Immune System is at battle.
Another thing that came up- was a waiting period after taking MMS to give the body time to reduce antibodies without any treatments. We dont like to compare the two but I wonder how much truth there is tot he resolve claim of waiting 90days.
PNJ you know you have my support in this next phase and i wish you the best finding a naturopath.
pnj,
i think you should hold off on taking anymore mms. Antibodies patrol the body searching for herpes virus. Your body probably makes tons of antibodies daily. I think your antibodies my eventually die off or they may never die. If you think of it, that is what most of the vaccines do. They shoot you up with a type of virus and your body produce antibodies that stay in the body forever. So just wait and see if your readings change in a few months.
Everyone
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sorry to hear about your results PNJ but the fact many of us have had outbreaks dis-appear or diminish quickly speaks alot about the results we are recieving. What we need to do is research the antibodies answers somehow and see if in fact we will maintain the anitbodies to this after being virus free.
Hey all- as many of you know I am a research nut and my latest thing has been the test we use for HSV. The IgG test is basically testing for antibodies which we all know. What we dont know is if antibodies will leave and if so how long. The point was raised before and now Im going to bring it back up until some fire it lit under it. I dont think the standard antibodies test we take at TSTD is suffice enough to really tell us if we still have the virus.
At best those tests tell us that we were at some point infected. They really dont speak much to current state. We are all on the mission to get cured- and that test was NOT designed to tell us if we've been cured. That test was designed to tell us if we have ever been infected.
We've talked about it before and its time we look into the PCR test to actually look for the viral dna. As scary as it may sound- the test doesnt ALWAYS have to be a spinal tap- it can also be in form of blood or a scabbing a lesion. (lesions wouldnt apply to us because if we did have a lesion- it would indiciate were not cured)
I looked into it and questdiagnostics offers PCR testing for HSV. You can go to their main website www.questdiagnostics.com click on test menu- type PCR in the search field and select your region. This will display a list of PCR tests offered in your area- looks for the Herpes Simplex Virus ones of course.
As we all know we QD and other labs wont test us without a lab order from a doctor so one would need to get a doctor to sign off on the test. In essense this is EXACTLY what TSTD is doing. They have a fleet of MD's on staff who do nothing but sign their names to order a lab test. I have contacted Quest regarding the specific PCR tests and the are $300 for the patient cost. This means a doctor or entity could charge their own fee to order the test for us.
I have reached out to TSTD to see if they would be willing to do a custom test for me and I have yet to hear back. There are 100+ members across all the hubs and at 300 a test they stand to make a nice profit if they would consider it. However I have also been playing around with the idea of going to see my doctor and just asking her to order it for me. I must be truly confident that I am cured before I open myself up like that but it has crossed my mind. I am also seeking local community MD's who would want a quick extra bucks to order the test also.
I encourage you all- especailly the family that has already tested positive from the antibodies test to look into trying to get one of these. wouldnt it be a shame if this is the test that declares our H free status while the antibodies test keeps us in bondage.
Again Quest offers the PCT test- we request it by code 34257 (or one of the others) if anyone can get a handle and have their medical professional order this test please let me know.
PACKMAN - Thank you. I'm still optimistic because I have no reason not to be at this point. I tested early and knew that there was a possibility that I would see no visible results yet. What matters to me is I feel those results wholeheartedly. I know what my body felt like when I had full blown herpes, and it feels totally different now. I did feel a bit "buggy" lately, so to cover my arse, I'm going to do a couple of weeks at a higher dosage.
804 - I completely agree with you, and I have made similar arguments in regards to Resolve, which is why I thought long and hard before deciding. So what it really comes down to is this; if I stop treatment and it turns out I should have gotten a bit more aggressive, it will take me a while to build my tolerance to this level again. On the other hand, if I do a slightly more aggressive treatment now, it will only cost me about an extra 2 weeks. From that perspective, I would personally feel more comfortable ensuring I've turned over every stone before calling my therapy complete. We are on the same page in regards to antibodies, and I know it takes time to see the true results. I truly believe that. Thank you for your second post! What a read!!! And this really drills in the other point many of us have made, the cures are here. And it really is up to us to take some responsibility for our health. The days of relying on and being able to trust our medical industry for our every needs are coming to a close.
FIRERAGE101 - I'm with you on that one also. I believe the answer is in the antibodies riddle, and I do feel that we are well on our way to figuring this out.
TECHIE - You and I have discussed this at length earlier, and as you know, we differ somewhat on where the emphasis should be. I believe our bodies will tell us what we need to know. It may take time, but it also took us a lot of time to get where we are, so results don't generally come immediately. While I agree that a Viral DNA test would be ideal, they are also extremely expensive, not as accurate as antibody testing (hopefully this will soon change), and highly inconvenient for many. I just feels like there's got to be a better way. I firmly believe that with enough time and understanding of our bodies, immune system, and antibodies and how they operate, our answer could be already staring us in the face. What we know is that when our bodies are in "fight mode", our antibodies are high. And when our bodies are healthy and relaxed, our antibodies are very low or not present. My gut is telling me this is the key.
ALL - So I took 16 drops today without incident. I feel very good and I'm experiencing no side effects. I will raise my dose to 17 tomorrow and see how it goes. I'm also writing my first email to Jim Humble to confirm that Molacula Silver is indeed what they recommend and to see if he has any particular suggestions or knowledge about antibody testing. I figure now would be a good time to go to the source, lol.
Hey PNJ - as insensitive as this may seem, I'm not worried about the antibody reading at all, and no-one should be. It is true that antibodies stay in our system for years, and in fact, longer than Doctors predict.
An example is, I was immunized for Rubella when I was 13 and haven't had a top up since. When I was pregnant with all 3 children, the most recent only 3 years ago when I was 36, all tests revealed that I still had immunity. Albeit it was getting low, but the fact remains, I had anitibodies for Rubella in my system, some 23 years after being vaccinated!
In addition, we all know that MMS is NOT a suppressant, and the fact that you haven't had an OB for well over 2 months now, speaks volumes! It's at this point now where your body is at its peak best, that it can now fight H, if there is any left in your system. There are no other pathogens left to fight in your body, so it only has H left.
In conclusion, I say again, I really don't think the antibody test is the one that determines whether we still have core H in our bodies or not. Period. So hope you're feeling ok and not feeling too disappointed. I've posted a few extra links on my blog that really are an interesting read. I'm sure you've read it all, as you've done more research on MMS than anyone on this hub, but maybe you might find something in one of them that you might find interesting.
Right behind you girl!
AZ1 - Cheers for your words, and no I do not feel you were being insensitive in the slightest. You are absolutely right, and for me, what it comes down to is that it will take time. I know a lot of us, including myself, are impatient, but it took time for us to get here, so we basically need to allow our bodies to do it's thing. I believe in time the antibodies will drop, but my body is still "prepared for battle", lol. I agree that the lack of an OB or any symptoms speaks volumes. Even some of the best drugs cannot do that! I also believe it's significant that I feel nothing at 16 drops today. I'm just going to ride this out and then give it some time. In a couple of months I can retest and hopefully those numbers will be going in he right direction!
PNJ28,
Well I am still a little leary about these antibody readings. I saw an oral surgeon today and he pretty much said to me that there is not alot of science regarding how long these antibodies stay in the body. He gave me examples of things like chickenpox and other such things and that once people have something like that the antibodies could stay. Whether right or wrong I am a little confused of the relevance of IgG to the actua irradication of this little varmits. If you haven't had a OB in two months and a previous history of more frequent, it is clear there has been a change in your body. I just don't believe the antibodies go away that quick. Only time will tell.
Chip
pnj28: I'm sad to hear about the news... but on the positive note it is early, VERY early and chances are you're still on your way to being cured. AZ1 is correct about you not breaking out in 2 months.. That's HUGE!! :D and we're all behind you 100%
I am in the process of moving cities so its a big change and also a hectic time for me. I hope this doesn't effect my treatment for H. I'm planning on doing 15 drops for 1 month and then moving up to 20 for another month then test in 90 days. I have no reading of numbers either, the test only showed positive. So I too don't know the count and won't know if I made well with the treatment or not.
all in due time, patience is a virtue :)
well hello to everyone,
PNj thanks for the words of advice, i will tell you as many have saud the fact you havnt had an outbreak for so long speaks many words. Its interesting the numbers are high and outbreaks are gone. This tells me that either the body is trying hard to beat this or mms brought it out and beat it and the body is still on alert to kill any stragglers its amazing to me that this has lead to a decrease in outbreaks for so many and the body is fighting hard. If it is true that the body produces antibodies and we all retain them for as long as we to we may have immunity now or much better resistance from ever catching this horrible thing again
CHIP - I'm equally confused at times, and you're right, I did retest very early. Personally, I believe that the idea of antibodies staying present is a good thing. It means our bodies recognise herpes and is ready to attack at any moment. This is how vaccines work, and it's also why we do not catch the same cold or flu twice. So antibodies are not a negative thing, I just would like to see lower numbers, as that would suggest the body is not on "high alert".
MINNIE - :-)
FIRERAGE - It's interesting that you say that, I was just saying this earlier tonight. It was indeed pointed out to me that the fact that I've been OB free and have shown no sign of herpes, yet my numbers are so high should indicate reason to be optimistic. Time will tell, but I do feel we've stumbled onto something that will finally give us our lives back. Also, given the way our bodies work to prevent future infections, having some antibodies present is not a bad thing... Will those of you who would like herpes again after getting cured please raise your hand...!
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i need some help everyone, i was just reading where the florida project supposedly is ineffective after the first intial infection does anyone know about this.
Also TECHIE you posted specifics about a different type of test available on another hub could you please repost here as well in case someone here wants to test and see where we are. I hate to say it but we need to get someone on the ball to test now and later as well to see what mms is doing to the viral load. Id volunteer but i cant evern get the darn test here where i live, way out in the boonies
check out the link below, read the second article on mms and silver
FIRERAGE101 - Please scroll up to see TECH'S post here. It was a very long post, but it's here also if you scroll up a few hours. I haven't heard much about the Florida Project.... anyone?
its the one everyone was trying to raise money for on the resolve hub supposedly for some hammerhead thingy
Last link but very interesting mentions a possible cure for hsv1 and in works for type 2
Wow fireage, wouldn't that be good! But you know, we may all be cured by then, here's hoping!
This afternoon is the weirdest I've felt so far. The fog brain is bad, and so is the fatigue. I feel heady and separate from my body, and I'm focussing too much on my breathing and heartbeat. WTF? There's some serious stuff going on in my body on 9 drops... I didn't know it cleared insanity too! lol. No really, I've suffered from anxiety and depression on and off for many years, and maybe MMS is clearing the cause? This feeling is so freaky, honestly, I feel like I'm floating tonight, and I don't like it. I've never done the drug thing, so can't understand what people get out this "high" feeling. It's freaky! What do you think is happening PNJ? Should I go back and see my Naturopath? Or a doc maybe? Only had mild cramping today, but the weirdness is enough to put me back to 8 drops. Argh! I'll probably compromise my sanity in peoples' minds on this hub now, LOL. Truly though, this is how it's making me feel. Maybe it's the detox affect? Now, should I hit "post comment", or just delete? lol. What the hell, I'll "post" now and blame it on "fog brain" later on.
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hi all- just a quick recap from yesterday and we can move on :)
pnj recall the same conversation we had about being OB free but still having high antibodies count- your body is on guard and ready for the next battle shuold there be one. However I am in the same boat as you- once cured I dont want to go back. hope you are doing well today.
firerage i did post the other post here- however I'm sure that since i posted the same thing on multiple by the time I got here- it was marked as SPAM :) for some strange reason pnjs hub dont like me and i get marked as spam sometimes LOL.
AZ1 you are so funny. I am so glad to see you are doing well.well getting there.
well today is my 5th day on 15drops and all is going well. Yal know I should have left well enough alone but this am i decided to stir my mms and apple juice nd the smell that it made made my stomach turn LOL. I am fine no negative side effects except being very gassy so im just chugging along.
Hey everyone, I have some horrible news and need someones advice on what to do. I have been on 15 drops for 8 days with no side effects, yesturday I started to feel sick and layed on the couch all day, as soon and mid day hit I had to throw up... I felt so much better after that that I just went on with my day. As soon as night hit I took my mms at 9:20pm at 10:40pm this is when my body went nuts. I couldnt stop throwing up and serious diarrhea it was water... very unsualy and I was running to to bathroom all night and all morning... I'm extremely tired cause I have not slept. I did not take my mms this morning because I was still throwing up. I don't know what to do now :( I feel like I have to start all over again. I cannot stomach mms right now until I'm feeling better
Minnie what did you eat? I had a similiar experience on 14 drops. did you do anything different? the slighest change in my routine made things sickly for me. I could be wrong in this next statemennt and would stand correction if I am- but clearing your body via stools etc is also good. I know some dont agree but the body rids waste of junk in other ways other than through urine. My bout this weekend did not end until I was empty. I had nothing else to throw up or poop out. Skipping doses is not good but if just have to- do what you must. however taking s smaller dose to have some in your system is also a good thing. remember mms is only in your system for 12hours so you want to try to keep some. I hope you feel better.
Minnie - If you have a look at my blog I mad a note about being really ill this morning. I got in really late last night and took my MMS at 3:00AM. No problems, and felt fine all evening and early morning. So this morning about 9:00 I took my morning dose and I'm feeling really ill. Fortunately I work from home so can do so in bed... which is where I am as I write this.
Had a thought as I lie here wishing for grim death... I think i understand this correctly that you can only be infected with herpes at the original time of contact, and the original site/s. After that your body produces antiboidies against the virus which prevents any further sites developing from new contacts. Ergo after your first uotbreak you can;t spread it to new sites.
So I was considering the consequences of one PHJ28\s teat results. If indeed her lack of outbreaks means the virus has been eliminated, then her high antibody counts would suggest she is immune from future contacts... no? Clearly being sick leaves me too much time to ponder these things!
My case seems to be a stomach flu, I am feeling a lot better now I think I will take my 15 drops tonight again and see how it goes from there. I know skipping a dose is not good but I know if I took my dose this morining it wouldn't last... my body would not have absorbed the mms. I did eat, but I'm stumped about how I got this stomach flu :S I thought mms would of protected me from it.
hey canada- dont have tim eot delve into it now but H can spread.
ill throw the links out when i get home as i dont have my research here at work.
FIRERAGE101 - That's an interesting article, however, it looks like it pertains to cancer and not herpes. TECH'S post is now visible (25 hours ago). For some reason it was marked as spam.
AZ1 - I experienced that very briefly, and it does pass fairly quickly. For me, I believe it was associated with an anxiety disorder I had been diagnosed with blended with a good dose of paranoia, as I honestly didn't know what to expect taking MMS. If it bothers you, you should step back and go at your own pace. I pressed on because it honestly wasn't that bothersome for me, as I simply associated it with anxiety. Interestingly, I no longer suffer from anxiety attacks, so whatever it was that was the culprit for it is now gone.
MINNIE - My first thought was food poisoning. I only say that because you said you've been taking 15 drops for 8 days with no problem. For this reason, it doesn't seem MMS related, but I could be wrong. Just in case, why don't you step back a bit and try a smaller dose.
CANADA - 3:00 AM is too late to take you MMS. I say this because you probably made yourself ill when you turned around and took another dose 6 hours later at 9:00 AM. MMS stays in your system for 12 hours, so it would have been better for you to skip a dose and take one in the morning than double-dose that way. Another way around this would have been to simply take your morning dose a bit later. Try and ensure you space your doses 9-12 hours apart. I share your thoughts in regards to OB's. Generally what you say is very true, however, it would depend on how much virus is in one's system, the state of one's immune system, and how aggressive the strain. I've done a lot of thinking about this because I now have the tools to make educated guesses. I did not have my numbers before, and now I have a starting point. I'm looking forward to seeing my numbers at a later date to see how things look wants the dust settles from the "herpster battle".
ALL - So today I am at 17 drops without incident. I feel great and had only a very mild case of tummy aches about 2 hours later from eating a very small breakfast. I had a couple of bowls of cereal and I'm fine now... so fine I've decided to join some friends on a boat party this evening! I'll chat with you all later on, and I hope you all have a lovely evening!
MINNIE - PS. MMS will actually kill the bacteria that causes food poisoning (stomach flu), but I understand if you have a hard time holding anything down. The last time I caught that, I could barely lift my head and even a sip of water sent me crawling to the loo. If you're really that ill, you might be better off getting some rest and starting up again once you're well in a couple of days. If you can manage it, you could try a very small dose of MMS and just sip it. You're in my prayers and I hope you feel better soon!
well its a sad day in my happy nutty life, i think im getting an OB, i tried to cut back to one drink a day and still only at 13 drops, however with all bad comes good. With that being said it does seem to be mild comparative to past OB's but its still early i'll know more in a few days. Usually all i get are slight burning and itching no visible blister's etc. so we shall see. But as we all say this soon will to pass. With so much going on it's good to here your doing well PNJ. It's interesting you have a bit of a higher number on antibodie's but it could be alot of things i dont know how often you used to have outbreaks if it was constant then one would expect higher numbers if after outbreaks stop. BUt at least now we have a baseline for you so when you do retest you'll know.
As far as the link for cancer i posted to show we are not the only group trying this interesting is they are also trying silver.
GODFORLIFE, (AKA GIGGLES) how was your day
ah- Giggles is Godforlife? well g4l plz tell us how the testing went last week. did you get it done?
Probably not an issue here but the only time I got sick or felt ill was when I did not eat anything prior to taking the 15 drops. Won't make that mistake ever again. Make sure you always eat. That is not to say I did not have time on the john or felt a little queezy but eating is a must.
Chip
The problem with lab testing for infections in CFS
Unfortunately, there is no test that clearly distinguishes old dormant infections from viral reactivation. When you first have an infection, antibodies in the IgM family ("M" antibodies are like your bodies storm troopers) are elevated for 6-12 weeks—telling doctors that you have an active new infection. After that time, the IgM test will be negative. The IgG antibody levels then stay elevated ("G" antibodies are like regular troops, suppressing the latent infection) for the rest of our lives. Because of this, when you check the standard IgG antibody testing almost everybody (including healthy people) tests positive for EBV and HHV-6 and many will test positive for CMV. That the IgG test is elevated, however, does not tell you if you have an active infection because of viral reactivation or simply an inactive, dormant infection. Other tests available to your doctor, such as PCR testing, are also still unreliable for a number of reasons and the IgM test will not be positive in the vast majority of those with reactivated viral infections.
PNJ - I think you're right about paranoia, combined with an anxiety disorder. I've had an anxiety disorder since very early childhood, and although life experiences haven't helped it, the fact still remains that it was there from a very young age. In fact, as early as 3, as I remember it well. Ongoing anxiety causes havoc on the body, so I would say that MMS is clearing out "issues" that were caused from anxiety. In addition, I'm also very much focussed on what MMS is doing "in my body", when really I should take my dose, forget about it and get on with it. I'm too in tune with any slight changes with my body, and obviously I'm magnifying things from this very close focus. It's all part of the anxiety disorder, argh! Thank you for sharing your own experience with anxiety, as it really does help. I've backed down to 8 drops again, as I feel ok on this level. I don't experience nausea or weirdness, as much as what I did on 9 drops. So I think it's just a time thing. Remember when 8 drops made me feel weird and nauseous?
Godforlife - Aww, thank you for the good vibes, it's working!! Hope you're doing well, and hope the heart issue is now sorted. Fingers crossed that the rest can now sort it self.
pnj28
you said about pcr testing that
''they are also extremely expensive, not as accurate as antibody testing''.
Well i think you re wrong. I was diagnosed with a pcr testing and it was highly accurate, it detected a tiny viral load of HSV in my sperm, so tiny, that they couldn t say if it was a whole viral dna or not. So about the accuracy, it s the most accurate test. As for the expense, yes it s expensive, but not extremely expensive. It s affordable to do it once, you wont be doing it every day.
The second thing is that we don t know what exactly happens with the antibodies. What about if the antibodies numbers don t drop, but you don t have the virus? Maybe it depends on the person whether the numbers drop or not. As you say, the antibodies show immunization against something. What about if the numbers drop in six months? What about if you are cured but you don t know it? I think that pcr testing is the best way to determine whether you are cured or not, it either will detect hsv, or not, and won t leave you speculating about numbers and antibodies and what do they mean.
PNJ - I was soo anxious to read your results the other day, I logged on from work (a big NO NO btw), and couldn't post Anyways, I'm sorry to hear that your results are still negative. I hope indeed that you are actually cured, and sooner (rather than later) the antibodies die off. Continue on your path as you said, so that you dont loose momentum. I still need to get caught up from since the other day...just been meaning to post this note...
well as many know or dont know im expeiriencing an ob while using mms, im on 13 drops and silver. Not a harsh outbreak never really are just a reminder i have it though. Anyways im going to expirement with medavir i ordered and and will be recieving it hopefully within the week. I plan to continue mms, and silver. Medavir is a topical that is fda approved and supposed to kill the virus and gets the the subdermal level of the skin to do so. My plan is to apply in the area during and outbreak and lower back 3 times a day for a week and see what happens. Also, will be increasing mydrops to 14 tonight but miday im adding 7 drops in and working up to three times a day hopefully. DIE DIE DIE H DIE DIE DIE haha. BTW here is a recent news link on herpesvirus
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/138983.ph
PAUL - What I said about Viral Testing was not opinion but based on the literature I read. Having said that, this HUB is not for debates. If you do not agree with what I said, simply go and get the test and let us know how it goes. I'd certainly do it if it weren't so expensive, and given our paths to find a cure, many of us would indeed need to take this test more than once. I am told that right now there are false negatives associated with that test, so it is not yet "perfected".
AZ1 - I feel where you're coming from, I truly do. Yes, you've come a long way... we all have, and I really feel we're onto something great. What really helped me tremendously was distracting myself. If I sat and did nothing, I would drive myself insane wondering what each and every sound and sensation meant, so I would listen to music, meditate/pray, or watch a film. Act "normal" and the mind will calm itself down, lol.
GODFORLIFE - You doing ok? I miss your posts. You're in my prayers!
PAUL - By the way, are you YODA? Where the devil have you been??? I wanted to add something in regards to antibodies. This is not as hopeless as it seems. If you know anything about vaccines then you'll understand what I mean. Having antibodies present is not a bad thing, it's the amount of antibodies that is key. My numbers will be lower in time once the "high alert" has passed. Also, once I stop my therapy, if I remain OB free, that will speak for itself, test results or not.
ANR - I know the results weren't what we all hoped for, but I'm still quite optimistic because I tested very early.
FIRERAGE101 - You may make yourself sick doing that. Your approach sounds very aggressive and rapid in regards to adding 7 drops midday. I tried something similar and was ill for 2 days, and it took me several days to feel "normal" again. You might want to start with 1 drop midday and start from there. I'm sure you know what works for you, I'm just throwing in my thoughts, lol.
Well, still chuggin along here. Made the trip down south today, and I guess the good news is everything was fine traveling with MMS in my checked luggage. Unfortunately my sister didn't have any 100% natural juice so I had to choke down my nightly dose with water and YUCK! I didn't realize how nasty it was. Tonight was 5 drops, no side effects yet so moving up a drop tomorrow. I'll have to take it wilth water again in the morning though, until I can get to the store and get some compatible juice. I'm here for almost two weeks before leaving for overseas, so we'll see how close I can get to 15 drops before I go. I just want to find my breaking point and establish a comfort level before that 16 hour plane ride...
Firerage- Hey you PHB! I am doing good despite the giggles comment. How about a nice P shirt with that nice hat, hahahahahahahahaha
PNJ- Sorry to hear about the high levels on your test. I was also thinking about doing what firerage is doing adding Medavir as well. But once i can afford it i will get it. Thank you for keeping me in your prayers, i really appreciate it. I want my life back, and i am going to do whatever it takes to get it back. Silver is definately kicking up MMS. I am praying to GOD that this is it.
Az1- Thank you for wishing me well, LORD knows that i need it right now. I think that we all need it right now. Hopefully this is the cure that we are looking for!
Techiegirl: just ignore firerages little comments over there, hes CRAZY, hahaha. Neways what test are you talking about?
PNJ thanks for the advice i know im being a bit aggressive but its been 22 days and outbreaks are the same as before so i hope to nip this thing. Im starting to think the lauricidin is bringing these out quicker than i can kill them. So time will tell.
EVERYONE, GODFORLIFE has gone a bit crazy lately. Her new nickname is GIGGLES just FYI. haha i know shes going to get me for this one.
BTW pink shirts rock, real men can were pink. haha
So being valtrex patent expires this year i wonder if they big pharma will come out with something new
PNJ - Thanks for the sentiments and advice, haha, you're so right! I'm trying to keep busy and be as "normal" as possible so that I can trick the mind into shushing for a bit. lol.
Fireage - I'm up to 8 drops and have been on 8 drops for nearly 2 weeks now. I've also had OB's since reaching 5 drops, and I've been getting more than normal. Actually, I'm recovering yet again, from another OB yesterday. But you know what, I meditated on both the answer and postive side to this, and the conclusion I came to is this. I have noticed that these OB's are significantly less virile than previous OB's. In fact, I no longer get a 2 to 3 day padrome that goes down my buttock and back of my thigh. Instead, I get a mild ache that is barely noticable, and then an OB appears on the same day, whereas it would take up to 2 days for the OB to appear before MMS. Normally my OB's would last up to 5 days without Lysine and Vitamin C, however I've stopped taking them since doing MMS and my OB's only last 4 hours max. When I say 4 hours, I mean... the itch and "pulsating" feeling that each OB normally creates for at least 2 or 3 days, is gone after 4 hours.
Firstly, the answer I've come to, as to why I'm getting more OB's, is that MMS and my immune system are literally "chasing" out the H virus from its hidey holes, forcing it to the surface of the skin (as there is no-where else for it to go once activated!), and then killing it. This is the positive part! The more OB's, the more virus is being killed. Naturally our antibodies will be in full force, and both them and our immune systems are loving us for the added help of MMS, and any other helpful supplement that is helping it along in the battle. So I believe that every OB, is yet another part of the virus that is being "zapped" into oblivion. It's all good! I know this because my OB's are nothing like they used to be and I'm getting more now than I have in months. Sorry if my description of the how and why sounds pre-schoolish, however it really does make sense!
PNJ - As you said, maybe this is why your antibody count is at a regular level without any OB's for 2 months? Maybe your immune system and MMS have been at war... killing off any remaining H virus! The soldiers have fought their battle and are still marching on looking for anymore virus to be terminated. Can it really be that simple? I think it can!
Godforlife - You're in my thoughts and prayers!
Techie - How's things going?
AZ1- Wow, that is amazing that your outbreaks are only lasting for four hours thats great! It sounds like MMS is doing it job to killing off the virus. I am soo happy for you. You are on your way to your CURE!!!!! Thank you for keeping me in your thoughts and prayers. I need all the prayers i can get right now! I am also sending you positive vibes.
Firerage: Look D! I am going to give you a knuckle sandwhich for that last comment. So you better be careful or else im going to send you a colorox-o-gram to your house, hahaha. Also, some pink jammies to match with that pink hatt!
PNJ-thank you for all that you have done for all of us here! You are the best!
Hey- well this has been my 7th day on MMS at 15drops and I am kind of glad I took it slow to get here. Ive been on MMS for 28days total. To quickly recap- I have not had an OB in a while. My last OB came on quickly when I was doing PHION full force and it was pretty painful. However MMS cleared it on 1 day and I have been OB free since. I have not gotten any tinges- and the padromes have gone away too. I got pimples early on with MMS and that has not gone. I usually get an OB or tingle or pain. Usually during my cycle I would get something but NOTHING. So I am feeling really really good. MMS has also helped me with other things. I use to stay congested but I have cleared up- My hearing has improved and I am more sensitive to sounds now.
giggles- haha ok so did you test last week? dont keep us in suspense.
Hey peeps I'm just looking for a little clarification on the food thing. I know you can't have any Vitamin C, citric acid, absorbic acid, etc. 2-3 hours after taking your MMS. I've been sticking to that really well so far. But what about the meal just before you take it? I'm assuming its the same deal since your body is still digesting that food while the MMS starts working its magic. So in reality, we have to stay away from those ingredients about 12 hours out of the day? I went for a snack tonight a little less than two hours from when I take the nightly dose, and luckily read the labels carefully. Turns out SunChips have citric acid, and cheese slices have absorbic acid. I'm pretty lucky that I haven't unkowningly compromised my doses yet. I guess toast and an apple will have to do as breakfast for the time being...
Well 6 drops today and still no problems, we'll see how 7 goes tomorrow. I got to the store to get juice for the week...two doses taken with water was two too many! I got some 100% apple juice for the mix, and made sure it didn't have any Vitamin C or citric acid added. The only two ingredients are water and apple juice from concentrate. That's cool right? There shouldn't be anything added to the concentrate if its not listed in the ingredients. Just wanted to double check on that too.
PACKMAN - I believe your food is fine as long as you keep it within reason. A salad with dressing that contains Citric Acid or a sandwich with spread that contains vinegar is probably fine, for instance, while eating an orange is not. In the literature I read, patients were not given a special diet, which leads me to believe that minute quantities within reason are probably fine, especially once you are at the higher doses.
TECH - I'm so happy to hear you are doing so well! That's 2 of us down and how many to go? I hope you're still on chat, lol.
GODFORLIFE/GIGGLES - Ok, which is it, lol? And why, by the way, are you testing while still doing therapy? Results???
Okay, well, Here i go ya'll. I have had my mms kit for almost a week now. I waited till now ta start this, cuz i had company down here from out of town an we was drinkin.
It is 6:22 am here in Ohio. I mixed up my citric acid. 1 drop mms an 5 of citric acid. I am waiting my 3 minutes till 6:25 am. This shit stank ta high hell. But i can do dis. Ok be back in a minute. tyme for water.
Okay that was not as bad as people be makin it out ta be. But i feel kinda warm an fuzzy. I will up-date as soon as something happens.
Ending at 6:28 am
here is the post ta my new blog i just started after i took my first dose of mms.
lantz- I am so happy you have finally started!!! however the taste isnt bad at one drop jus wait until you get to the larges doses. you will be fighting with your body. i cant tell you how many i stand in the kitchen with my mms pacing because I am in a mind battle about taking it. I always win- usually PNJ will crack her whip then I'll just do it.
ok so today was very interesting for me. last night i discovered that I left my newly purchases Apple Juice in the car. I be damn if I take 15drops with water so I had to think quick. Last night i decided to not use as much juice so i could save a little for the morning. so this morning instead of drinking 1/3rd glass of MMS i took it with half a glass. IT WAS VERY NASTY! but to make matters worse- i ran out of tea. so im like uh oh. i was bracing myself for a sick morning but turned out to be mild. I saw colors in front of my eyes kind of like if you get a flash flashed in yor eyes and my tummy felt weird. but no stools or rhea and most important no throwing up. for me i learned jsut how important taking it with tea really is.
Techie - Sorry but.... LOL
Well I just took my second dose of mms. But i did 2 drops of mms, an 10 citric. I am posting my results on my blog.
I'm up to seven drops today and still haven't noticed much unpleasantness when drinking it. After I got to about 4 or 5 drops I started noticing the chlorine smell as it activated which is probably the worst part. Your mind will associate that smell with the unpleaseantness which carries over as you continue on. I haven't experienced 15 drops yet, but I think I'll have an easier time than techie seems to be having (sorry tech!). The first day or two I noticed some gas but since then I haven't had any side effects at all (knock on wood). I've been following the protocol precisely. I do agree that taking it with water was unbearable, even at 6-7 drops. I drink it with apple juice and barely notice it. I guess my best advice is to find a regimine thats easy to stick to but make sure you avoid the no-no's that can deactivate the solution. Lantz, there probably won't be much to blog about your first few days. The important thing is to listen to your body, not go too fast, and recognize where your breaking point is. I've noticed some people say its between 7-10 drops, while others have gotten up to 15 with no major problems. I think it will vary depending on how healthy you are in general and the amount of parasites, viruses, etc. in your body. Good luck workin' your way up!
Oh one thing I read awhile back as a suggestion to deal with the bad taste (I believe Jim H himself recommended this), is to suck on a mint lifesaver for a couple minutes before you take the MMS, and keep it in your mouth while you drink down the stuff. Also, leaving the room while its activating can help so you don't have to smell it. Put on a fan to your side blowing across your body, which will also keep the smell away while you're drinking. And plug your nose. If you still can't handle it, it's time to cowboy up, nancy pants. :)
Hey everyone so I am settled in my new place and I am 100% better. I hope I followed up correctly the night I was sick (Thursday) I lowered my dose of mms to 10 drops but in the morning on Friday I took my regular dose of 15 drops. I have had no problems since and I don't feel sick at all, I hope this has not affected my treatment :S I have been on mms for a total of 27 days :)
Techie: YAY congrats on the OB free time :D I too have not had an OB since I started the treatment... I had one tiny one which disappeared in 2 days! :D so I think we are well on my way to the road of recovery
hi all- AZ1 dont laugh but went to the car and didnt see the juice either so had to go to the store to buy more. the mystery of where the 2 jugs of juice with is another story. however i discovered Indian Summer has a brand of natural juice and i tried it tonight and it was just what i needed. It didnt taste as bad as my moots and my body welcomed the change.
hope all is well with all.
All-so is it normal to get maybe an ob when i am first startin mms ? cause i have one comine up. please let me know something.
Packman- Thanx I have not really had anything beside a bad headach. but i started off runnni, now i am walking. so to speak. Thanx
well i just did my dose of 2/10 ratio bout an hour ago and i am feelin pretty damn good. so i will up it by a drop tonight if i feel okay all day. i am also about to start a natural cleanse program tomorrow for my gall bladder stones to flush em out. it is going to be a rough week
LANTZ - Yay! I'm going to put your blog url on the HUB, k? I'm so glad you got started, and like I was saying on chat. Just listen to your body and go very slow. I would encourage you to up your drops daily and not per dose. It will seem slower this way, but actuall you avoid more problems in going slow and will be able to get to the higher doses faster, and therefore, see nip the OB's in the bud. MMS is not a suppressant, so herpes will still act like herpes and try to give you an OB. Generally, most people start out having a very tiny OB and then they cease, however everyone is different and it will depend on your strain of virus. Headaches, loose stools, diarrhea (faucet bottom), and gas are common. Some of us have had improvements with our hearing and sight also. Be prepared to feel a bit "strange" before you feel better. As the toxins are released and expelled, you will probably feel bad before you feel good.
TECH - Pretty soon the side effects should diminish and you won't need the tea. I'm on 18 drops now, and I seem to be doing fine just eating lightly and keeping myself hydrated. I don't even fart that much anymore, LOL!
PACKMAN - Those brain associations are no joke. I am at the point where I hate apple juice now, lol. I associate that smell with apple juice and tap water. I've switched to Pomegranite, 100% Blueberry, and Prune Juice. I 100% Grape Juice is also recommended.
While I agree that some appear to have no problems getting to the higher dosages, I personally find that questionable because to reach the higher doses with no problems would indicate a totally healthy body, something none of us here has. Regardless, I hope everyone is having an easy enough time with their therapy and seeing some real results.
MINNIE - How's the new pad??? I'm glad you're doing well again. I don't think you need to worry. You can always make up that time if it will make you feel more comfortable. Hooray and death to all outbreaks!
ALL - So I am now at day 2 at 18 drops and I'm doing surprisingly great. I reckon all that time at 15 drops has paved the way and I am experiencing no side effects whatsoever, which is really making me believe there is no more virus in my system. I will continue at this level for 2 weeks and stop my therapy, going down to a low maintenance dose to protect against parasites and toxins. Crossing my fingers for the next testing!
DENNI - Are you still lurking about? I heard you were going to be starting MMS, but your dose sounds quite high. Were you honestly planning to start at 15 drops 3x daily?? None of us could even start out at 5 drops 3x daily, so you may want to rethink that and follow the correct protocol, lol.
hey everyone hows it going, sorry its been awhile since ive written working long shifts. Well im offically at 15 drops still having an outbreak im starting to wonder if i have type 1, it doesnt seem to be going away just a very annoying burning sensation. Slight but its there. So who knows. Lost more weight which isnt good but will have to start taking protien shakes or something so i dont loose n e more. All and all no real complaints just hoping this works. Hope everyone is doing well
hey folks..
in case yiou haven;t heard "new beginnings" (aka love) tested negative on Resolve... which of course everyone seems to agree ends with MMS...check out her blog at http://herpesresolve.blogspot.com/
I'm back to 15 driops with no problems... am taking doses every 12 hours from now on!
Cheers
PNJ, thanx. i just took my 3/15 doese. we will see. i feel okay rite now.
FIRERAGE101 - Is this the same OB you said you were having 3 days ago, and are you still planning to do MMS 3x daily? Well we know that MMS is not a suppressant, so the important thing to remember is that it's doing its job. I have decided to get a supply of Molecula Silver to go along with the last couple of weeks of treatment. I really want to ensure I've covered my bases before stopping, and I hope this does the trick. Please let us all know how it goes with 3x daily so we can compare notes. We're all guinea pigs so it will be trial and error for those of us at the higher dosages.
LANTZ - I hope you're being good! Remember, no intimate contact at all! LOL
Hi Guys, so I removed messages older than about 6 weeks. They are not permanently deleted, so please let me know if there's something you want to see, and I will go back and allow it to be visible again. Apologies for the short notice, but we had nearly 1000 messages here and the page was taking as long to load as my hair does to dry, lol. For any newbies out there, feel free to email me if you have any questions at all, and of course, you're welcome to join us here in the HUB.
PNJ28- Have been reading your notes and decided to follow you up to 18 drops, slowly, perhaps one drop a day. I would like to know more about the Molecula Silver, how to use it, where you bought yours, etc. Emailed Godforlife but didn't hear back... but not sure if the email ever got through though!
Cheers
Well I got up to 9 drops today, still no major problems. I noticed a bit of a weird sensation in my body shortly after taking it, but it slowly went away. Yesterady at 8 drops I had horrible gas, so I was a bit nervous about this mornings dose. I've found a pretty decent breakfast regimine that's been easy follow and has not given me problems. I have some oatmeal with whole grain toast, and finish breakfast with an apple before taking my dose. I'm currently drinking the mixture with apple juice, and try to focus on the apple flavor as I'm drinking it. I'm noticing the chlorine taste a bit more with every dose but its not unbearalbe yet. The smell is starting to get to me though, I have to leave the room while it activates. I've noticed I wake up in the morning with a slight headache, maybe this is because I only eat an apple before my night dose.
I decided to ship my molecula silver overseas rather than travel with it, because I don't need it yet and its kinda heavy. I hope it makes the trip. I think I will try something similar to what PNJ is doing, and work my way up to 18 drops after holding steady at 15 for two weeks. At that point I'll add the silver too. I'm a tall guy at about 190-200 lbs, so I think maybe getting up to 18 would be beneficial to work its way through my whole body.
Well after dealing with nearly 5 months of frigid Midwest weather, its in the 70s here in Texas today so I need to get out and enjoy the weather! Hope everyone else's treatment is going as well as mine so far. ciao
CANADA - I haven't yet gotten my supply of Molecula Silver because I was trying to find a place in my city that sells it. Unfortunately, it looks like the best way to get this product is online. So far I have found 3 sites I like, and I will list them below.
PACKMAN - It's a beautiful day here as well, and I can't tell you how good it feels to have the sun on my face after all that (badly needed) rain. The smell is wonderful! Anyway, whereabouts did you get your Molacula Silver and do they offer rush delivery? I stalled on ordering my supply because I thought I might be able to find it in my city, and I've had no luck.
ALL - So this is my 3rd day at 18 drops, and I have experienced a bit of "weirdness-achy" followed by "faucet bottom". I feel certain that the higher dose has "shaken" a bit more virus that was still in my system. We were all warned that herpes is hard to kill, and I believe it now, as it is difficult to know when it is gone. I have had no other side effects, but the aches tell me there is something still there.
I finally emailed Jim Humble for the first time, and here were my questions with his answers attached:
What knowledge to you have in regards to eliminating herpes and retesting? **Herpes are very hard to eliminate and 15 drops 3 times daily might be required for 3 or 4 months. I will have better protocols later I hope. Many disease register higher levels of antibodies when MMS begins to kill them. One continues until the diseases is killed..**
What is the proper protocol for herpes, and do you recommend the high dose of 15 drops 3x daily for this virus? **See above.**
Do you recommend MMS combined with Molecula Silver? **I have been told that silver does the job when added to MMS, but I have no proof of that. Denis in Las Vegas sells it, www.mmsdr.com**
What is the difference between Miracle Solution and MMS? I hear it is more potent on a certain website, but I cannot buy it there, is there an alternative site? **I don't know about the Miracle solution.**
In the malaria cases you have covered, were doctors able to perform tests to show eratication of the virus? **Malaria is not a virus, it is a parasite. Yes hundreds of cases have been blood tested after wards.**
I hope you all found this as helpful as I did. There is too much misinformation out there, and I wanted to hear it from the "horses mouth" so to speak, and the last thing I want to do is encourage anyone to do this the wrong way.
I was a bit discouraged to hear about the timeframe in regards to eraticating herpes, but at the same time, I feel very much relieved and happy that it can be done. It looks like I will indeed need to start a higher dose of 15 drops 3x daily, and the Molecula Silver will be ordered today. I plan to do this sensibly, by adding a 1 drop dose in the afternoon, and upping that afternoon drop daily until I reach 15. I will need to get another supply of MMS (I spilled it while making a topical solution), so I will lower my dose back down to 15 and begin adding an afternoon dose next Monday. That way I will have enough MMS to start the new regimen.
Interestingly, what he does confirm is that we were all on the right track in regards to antibodies. AZ1, I believe you were the one who pointed out that higher levels of antibodies suggests that MMS has opened up a can of whoop arse on mr. herpster! Looks like we're right, but the battle's not yet over.
I feel like I should stress how difficult herpes is to kill because I know how discouraged I felt when looking at the timeframe for herpes. We all knew this from the start. I had hoped the general protocol would be all that's needed, but it looks like there is a different protocol for herpes, and I feel like I should have asked these questions sooner. For those that feel a bit discouraged, think of it this way... 3-4 months is a small price to pay for a cure and a return to health. Some of you were smarter than me and are already doing MMS at 3x daily, so my hat is off to you and I will be following in your footsteps! I am the queen of research when it comes to products, so I feel disappointed in myself that I missed this.
For anyone wanting to know the best way to reach 3x daily, the best thing to do is to first get used to 15 drops 2x daily, then add an additional dose starting at 1 drop, and up that daily until you reach 15.
Where to find Molecula Silver:
This site sells MMS and Molecula Silver: http://www.mmsdr.com/
Molecula Silver: http://www.bodymindbalance.com/Molecula_Silver_p/0
Molecula Silver: http://www.worldhealthmall.com/
CANADA - I will be ordering from one of these sites.
AZ1 - I replied to your email, but one address I have for you works, while the other doesn't (the one on your "reply to"). Would you please email me again and tell me which one I should use or if I should use something else?
For the many of you who do not post, but chat via email, and are already at 15 drops 3x daily, I hope my posts above shed a bit more light and clarity. The good news is you've been doing it right all along, we just need to keep at it a bit longer!
Hey PNJ,
I got my molecula silver from www.mmsdr.com
It shipped in a reasonable amount of time, I believe it took about one week. I haven't used it yet obviously, but it looked legit. I would recommend this site. It says somewhere on the site that the 16oz bottle should last about 2 weeks, which is the recommended time frame for use. Now, based on Jim Humble's responses, I guess the question is at what point to do you start taking the silver in combo with MMS. It's definitely at the 15 drop mark, but now as it seems many of us will be trying the extended treatment, the correct point would be debatable. I think I might try to do this after being at 15 drops for two weeks, at the point where I would start working in that third dose. I'm not sure what kind of side effects may happen with the silver, but someone on here mentioned that it can be a rough treatment, so doing the silver with 3 doses of 15 drops might be too much to handle. I guess only time will tell....
PACKMAN - I'm glad you mentioned that because I had the same question, but figured it would become clear once I see the dosage instructions for the Silver. Does it say on the bottle you have what the dosage for Molecula Silver should be? I purchased the 16 oz. bottle from the same site as you.
Well it's not completely clear to me which point to begin the silver either, but since I have already completed 15 drops 2x daily, I suppose I will be working the Silver into my therapy at the same time I am working in the extra dose of MMS in the afternoon. If this becomes too troublesome, I will back down on the MMS dose and get the Silver Therapy done. My hunch tells me that because I am so comfortable with the higher dosages, I should be fine as long as I increase the 3rd dose slowly.
If anyone else is trying this with the Molecula Silver, please email me or post here how you did it and what the effects were, if any.
PNJ- Well I don't have the bottle with me at the moment, because as I said I'm having it shipped overseas to me with some other stuff. I didn't have any room for it in my luggage, and didn't want to deal with going through the airport with another weird bottle of "medicine". I believe the protocol for taking the silver is to take 1-2 tablespoons (or is it teaspoons?) morning and night, by holding the dose under your tongue for 30-60 seconds. Whatever the specific dose is, I don't think there is enough in the bottle to do 2 spoonfuls for each dose. So when I start, I'm going to do one in the morning and night and see how it is.
ALL- I'm not sure if anyone posted this link yet, but this is one of Jim Humble's sites where he talks about different methods and protocols with MMS for different types of ailments. H isn't mentioned specifically, but he describes in details methods for topical treament, bathing, mouth diseases, life threatening diseases, dealing with bad taste, etc. I guess he did some of this research after the latest version of his book so it'll be new info for some...
PACKMAN - Cheers for that. I have Jim's site at the top of this HUB, but his site has been updated, so that information may not have been available before. In regards to Molecula Silver, my guess is that we should take the Molecula Silver according to its own protocol and simply do that while we are also taking MMS according to its own protocol. I guess whomever starts the Silver first will be the guinea pig for the rest of us, lol.
Here's one more tidbit that I'm sure people on this hub are interested in. This is taken directly from part 2 of the third edition of Jim Humble's MMS book. This is the part of the book you have to pay for. It says that people may use up to a page of the info for free without copyright infringment, so it's cool. This is his specific advice for treating H:
"Herpes: The ads on TV can make you sick when you know that herpes can be easily cured when the immune system has the proper ammunition. About a week of 15 drop doses twice a day and no more herpes. Of course, one must start with two drop doses and increase daily until he has reached 15 drop doses and then increase the 15 drop dose to twice a day for about a week. That means the herpes should be gone in about two weeks. However, in very bad cases, it might take up to two months to finally overcome the herpes.I suggest you to use the citric acid as the activator in the case of herpes. With severe cases take the MMS every two hours for several days. When taking it every two hours one can take smaller doses. This keeps the MMS penetrating deeper and deeper. In worse cases, one may have to use the MMS intravenously. See the chapter one IV."
After reading, I may consider incorporating my third daily dose to an hour or two hours after one of the morning/night doses, instead of spacing it out in 8 hour increments. It seems the suggestions vary due to the different strains and the overall complexity of the disease. I guess this is the best reason for this hub and for EVERYone participating here to share your experience and keep track of the program you followed. It sucks that some of us may have to complete a second cycle of MMS after finding we went down the wrong road during our first treatment, but the trial and error that we're doing will eventually be invaluable to other people with our condition and Jim Humble, in particular.
When people post those pin numbers where do you go to look at them?
Hey guys, sorry i haven't been on lately school is really kicking my butt this semester.
Firerage- Giggles wants to beat you down, hahaha. D!!!!!
PNJ- i haven't read all the post that i have missed, but i did read that you were going to do silver as well. Well let me tell you about Silver and MMS. I am on week two of this stuff and it really pushes MMS to another level. Things will intensify like more D and upset stomachs. On silver you have to stay away from all fermented foods, alcohol, vinegar, all soy products, most breads, yeast and all sugars. Which pretty much means that your are going to find it hard to find foods that do not contain soy, since pretty much everything that is not organic has soy in it. My diet has been miserable since starting MMS and silver together, but i think now that i am getting used to it. You have to take the silver on an empty stomach and you have to wait 4 hours after eating to take silver. I usually take it first thing when i wake up. I usually wait 45 mins to an hour to eat then take MMS 30-40 mins. I am down to 15 drops twice a day now instead of 3 because i am still having really bad heart burn. I then eat a HUGE lunch and wait four hours then take silver. I then wait 45 mins to an hour to eat then another 45 mins to an hour for MMS. Firerage is on silver as well.
As for testing, i am going to test after i am done with the month of taking silver. I will keep ya'll posted on how that goes.
Canada: did PNJ give you my email addy?
beat down huh giggles i dont know if you can do it without laughing, haha
Well to answer the questions yes this outbreak is the same as before it doesnt seem to be going away. I ordered medavir and hopefully it will be in tommorow and going to try it asap
Hey all! Well, it seems like some are upping the anti!
PNJ - Thanks for your response email, I'll reply some time tonight (Aust. time). So you're going to do silver huh? I'm interested to follow GFL and fireage's results from silver, and when you start taking it, I'm curious to see how you do with it. I looked at silver a long time ago, however I'd never heard of it and I was too chicken to try anything alternative then. I'd give it a go now though!
Fireage - Sorry to hear about your OB, I've had quite a few this month... much more than normal. However, they don't last long and they're dead within 4 hours. Do you have HSV1 or 2? I have 1, both orally and genitally. MMS is definately killing off H in my body, as the OB's are dieing very quickly. What I"m hoping is that MMS is getting to the "source", and killing off the host cell, as well as the activated virus. In saying all of this, the OB's are self inflicted as I've missed a few doses at night and I've been living on 4 hours sleep.... a great breeding ground for H replication! I'm glad that I've been through it though, as normally I would experience a big OB, that would take up to 7 days to clear, whereas they're clearing within 1 to 2 days now, and the itch is gone within 4 hours. Amazing!
GFL - Hey you! Glad to hear things are going well, although the heartburn sounds uncomfortable. Have you tried something for that? You been doing silver for a week now? Wow! Keep us informed eh? Prayers are with you.
Well, I'm on 9 drops now, and feeling fine. I'm going to stay on 9 drops tomorrow as well, and then up the anti on Saturday to 10 drops. Woohoo! Flying high peoples!
DONTKNOWY - tstd.org
GODFORLIFE - Yek! What happens if you don't adhere to the diet? Does it say that on the directions, or did you read that somewhere? While I don't mind altering my eating habits, I probably won't be changing my diet that much, lol. PS, of course I gave CANADA your email address. I gave you hers also, did I not?
FIRERAGE101 - I may have asked you this already, but have you tried applying MMS to the OB? I've read that it stops it right in its tracks.
AZ1 - Hi there! I thought you'd fallen into a well, lol. I am upping my dosages per Jim Humble's comments above. Did you have a chance to scan them? It looks like we're going to need to get quite a bit more aggressive to ensure herpes is gone, and the protocol is a bit different (15/3x for up to 3-4 months). Some of us will need to take it longer than others, but I'm glad I asked because now I reckon we'll all have a good idea of where to aim so to speak. He also said that he knows some individuals who are having great success using Molecula Silver, though he's not experimented with it himself. I'm so glad you're doing well. Email me when you can.
Hey all..
My email is coffee-friend@live.com.
Cheers
PNJ28 - Was reading your response from Jim. Not overly thrilled with the idea of taking MMS 3x a day for 4 months. I can barely handle it now!!! How did we go from the two weeks mentioned in his book, which I also bought, to 4 months? S**t!
One question I'd be interested in knowing is if he has seen any substantiated cases of someone being cured of herpes on MMS, and some background on their journey, and the protocol they followed, etc. Given you have the greatest experience on here with MMS, and have communicated with Jim already, would you be interested in following up for all of us?
I’m still hugely suspect that you are already cured and are merely carrying around an elevated antibody level. If not then why no outbreaks or symptoms? As you have indicated MMS is not a suppressant! The problem is in the confirmation. Now we know that at least in some people after 90 days the antibody levels do in fact drop off as per my earlier post about New Beginnings. I wonder what yours will be like in 30 days. 60 days?
Godforlife – I think I tried to contact you through your hub page... but don’t recall any longer. Have posted my email address above so you can contact me directly!
Cheers
For all - From Jim's web site:
Generally herpes is one of the hardest things to handle but it can be handled. Just keep increasing the doses to at least 15 drops 3 times a day for a week or two, then check and verify your progress. If not, keep it up. It will eventually get it. We have heard of people feeling much better with MMS, but we don’t have the before or after blood tests to make sure they are completely cured, if you get any verification let me know.
Hey All, don't post here often but PNJ knows who I am ;) Just passing a long an e-mail i got from this 'daily inspiration' site I subscribe to.. Have a great day all...
Just sharing a little 'inspiration' I received today vie e-mail.. posting it on all the hubs today.. hope everyone has a great day
Dreams are like that... Most of the time you don't even know how close you are, until after they've come true.Sometimes, even, the very day before they come true, it still feels like they're a million miles away. Something to remember.
Tallyho, The Universe
I'm also very curious and a bit weary to start the molecula silver treatment. But I shelled out $50 for it so I'm not gonna waste it! It hit 10 drops this morning, felt a little weird but no signs that I need to back off yet. Up to 11 tomorrow if my night dose continues to hold up. I'm still not sure how to incorporate the silver into my regimine but I'm glad to have a few people here already into it for reference. Keep posting and let us know, hopefully our group can eventually develop a protocol that will work for most people.
hi all-
wanted to chime in- yes the idea of taking it 3-4 months is not ideal but if thats what it takes for a cure- then thats what we have to do. Not to compare treatments but I must point out that resolve is a 45day treatment with a 3 month waiting period. (When works)- and when it doesnt work people need an extra ten days. Im not here to debate resolve as I have my own opinions about it just pointing out that it takes times. Also BHT is another big hit but you must take that for a few months as well. Even some of the natural docs have stated it will take a few months before it works. We live in an instant gratification society where we want things right now but keep in mind that H has had years in some of our bodies replicating and doing its thing.
If going into it- the expectation was set at 3-4months there would be no disappointment however we all thought 3-4 weeks. But knowing ahead of time that Jim states we may need to take it longer also addresses the concerns later if we run into issues.
each person is different for some it may take 3 weeks at 15drops others it may take longer. MMS is not confined into a box where one size fits all. Even medicine is not confined- for example three different doctors will tell you three different ways to take tylenol for a headache. All three could be right.
lastly- we have to keep in mind that we are paving the way for the generation after us. we cant lose heart. We all have different stores and different expereinces and those will help different people down the line.
Firerage- D!!! Where is my breakfast sucka! LOL!
AZ1- it is always good to hear from you! Im sorry that you are having outbreaks, but im glad that they are only lasting for a very short period. Thank you for keeping me in your prayers, i need all of them.
Canada- i will email you when i get off of work, i never received any email.
PNJ- I don't know what will happen when you don't follow the diet. I noticed when i did cut back on all of the avoided foods i notice things are kicking up a notch. If some one wants to call Dennis Richards for me and ask him i would appreciate it. I have like 20 mins for 2 day on my cell, so i can't call him. Here is his number 1-702-353-0566.
I am praying for all of use every night!
CANADA - I think the imporant thing to remember is we're not taking medicine. All of our bodies will be different, and what you see mentioned above is how long it CAN take to cure herpes. We all know it's a difficult virus to kill, so for me, the protocol he mentions wasn't shocking, as I knew going into this that I may have to up my game. I was not expecting to take MMS for a week or so and be cured, and I said from the beginning that this is not an exact science. Some of us have more infested bodies than others. My goal is a cure, so it doesn't matter to me how long I need to continue (no, I probably won't wait 3-4 months before testing again, but I will do 15/3x to be on the safe side).
I agree with you about my antibodies test, which is why I plan to get retested. The protocol I'm doing is a precaution. If I stop now, and the virus is not completely gone, it would be much harder to get to this level later on. It is better for me to continue and it costs me not much more than an extra 2 weeks or so. When talking about my health, I'm not going to rush it, not even for the sake of easing a few minds. Herpes is a frustrating disease, and we need to be patient.
If I'm honest, I have to say I'm genuinely not interested in debating with Jim Humble, lol. I don't feel the testimonials I've read, nor the research done on herpes is false, so to ask if the claims are "substantiated" to me is an oximoron, as the testimonials, research, and protocols all come from MMS-friendly doctors, individuals who have taken MMS, Jim Humble, and individuals he has worked with. Understandably, some "patients" are anonymous, just as we are anonymous here. My best advice is if you don't trust something, don't take it. This HUB is not here to convince anyone to do anything. This HUB is about all of us taking responsibility for our own health and getting cured.
You have to remember how small this HUB is compared to the general population. Herpes cures is NOT talked about in the medical community, as a matter of fact, it is illegal in America to even say you can cure a virus. The people out there who have gotten cured with blood work to show it, are not exactly looking for my HUB to share it with us, and I highly doubt they'd be interested in going public with having herpes, lol. I forgot who posted Jim's email address here, but I'll post it again at the end of this post.
JGURL - I agree wholeheartedly, here here! We've got to hold ourselves together and brace ourselves. Now is not the time to lose it.
PACKMAN - That "diet" sounds awful, and I probably won't be changing my whole life around to take Silver lol, but I will try it in tandem with MMS. I'm going to dig a bit deeper to see if all those changes in diet are absolutely necessary.
hey all- time for my check in. I dont post daily my regim as thats what my blog is for but wanted to update everyone. Im on 15drops this is my 11th day. starting tomorrow im gonna mix my citric acid and use that instead of lemon juice. early march i will try the 15drops 3x a day GOD HELP ME.
The best way i can describe what i am going through is it feels like the skin on my vajay his iritated. My undies were a little tight and could have caused some friction- when I take undies off I have no iritation its only when something is touching it. sorry TMI. Ive felt and cant feel a bump or anything. I will try to get a mirror. I am not concerned if its H still leaving- hell thats why I am on MMS but it is interesting. other than that no bumps- no sores- no padromes none of the usual issues. This is not like any OB iritation I have experienced but I will not rule it out. I will let you know if anything comes of it.
good morning everyone, giggles coffee first breakfast second so come and get it, you might need to bring more coffee though i think its going to be gone or cold.
As a far as type i can only guess to be honest i dont live n e where close to a facitility to test and i know im going to have to drive and get this tested. When i was diagnosed they did a visual check and said probably have h and left it at that. It only affects my genital region and have never had one blister (well maybe one cant tell what it was) My OB's are usually starting with itchyness then 3 days later slight burning which continues for a week ends with itchy then gone. This time it's not leaving and been consistant. I ordered medavir and will be applying topically upon arrival. As far as silver as Giggles pointed out i dont know the true effects as i have been doing it wrong so no more drinking for me etc. Just glad they didnt say coffee was a no go i would of died. (Do you think they can give me coffee intravenously) that would be sweet. After MMS regardless of outcome i think im going to try oxygen therapy as well. I just want to know this thing is gone and put to rest. I will say it has changed my life and appreciation for many things. I was doing some research one day and saw and article that wrote it best.
Sex is a natural part of life, which is why any STD make's thing so much more uncomfortable. To have to tell your partner that you have H can be the most embarassing if not ending part of the relationship. When dealing with H often times just the word scares people since the stigma is much harsher than the reality of it. But end the end two people who can get through it together will be that much stronger.
Either way i know we will get cured, if mms is not it together we will find it. Altough i beleive MMS is going to be golden.
GIGGLES just realized i drank your coffee to, sorry ummmm it was good
i know this may not be helpful to us but then again it may
http://www.webmd.com/video/herpes-vaccine-study
http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/research-holds-prom
Argh, missed a dose last night because I'd ran out of juice! Hopped in the car at 10pm and drove around looking for juice without preservatives, and do you think I could find any? I just couldn't face drinking it with water, so I decided to compromise one dose, rather than the whole thing! If I had of drank it with water, I probably wouldn't be able to keep it down ever again lol. So, 9 drops again this morning, and no more missed doses!!! Hope you're all doing well. Where is everyone?
AZ1 - Your post had me laughing so hard because I remember running out of the house in the middle of a cold night in search of JUICE because I simply COULD NOT drink MMS with water, LOLOLOL! I hope everything is going well now and you're not experiencing many side effects at this point. I have a list of Naturopaths in my area, so all I need to do is make some calls. I hope I can find one who can give me some insights on my therapy and how I'm doing. I've been out and about trying not to neglect my friends, lol.
I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend!
17 hours and no posts? wow.
Well I hit 12 drops today. Although I was following the plan vigorously, I was getting a little worried that my doses were being compromised for some reason because I wasn't really feeling any side effects except some gas. I guess maybe I was just a bit healthier than I thought. I've got some cloud head this morning, with a slight headache and stomach ache. Nothing too serious that would make me back off yet, but I guess it's good to know that its working. Also I noticed a blister forming about 2-3 inches above my belly button...A pretty weird place if you ask me. Not totally sure if its H or not.
FIRERAGE101 - Have you ever considered getting a proper test? I find it so discouraging how inadequate some of these doctors can be in regards to their knowledge about herpes and tests. I am with you in regards to your sentiments. At the end of the day, the only thing that's really helped me to pull through and see what matters is this HUB and our small online community. I can honestly say that having herpes, while being quite detrimental, has also benefitted me in a lot of ways spiritually. I say that because even though I may not be completely healthy right now, I'm the best I've ever been spiritually and my friendships are stronger than ever. There's a lesson in all this, and I'm glad I got to share it with others. We are bigger and stronger than we think we are or give ourselves credit for! Love the links.
AZ1 - How are you at 9 drops? I received my new supply of MMS and Molecula Silver today, much sooner than expected! I'm excited to finally kick this therapy into high gear!
PACKMAN - LOL, I don't know where everyone is, but it's really quite nice here at the moment so I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. It's supposed to rain today, but right now it's beautiful and warm. Do you reckon the bump you see could be a zit? No bad symptoms is a good thing, and taking the solution at a slow and steady pace is the best way to avoid them. What are you taking your solution with?
ALL - Well my package has arrived... quite a bit sooner than I expected. I can't wait to start taking the Silver. Unfortunately, I will not get to take it this morning because I didn't remember the directions (you have to take it on an empty tummy).
PACKMAN, I'm happy to report that the directions do not say a change in diet is necessary. Here is what it acually says:
..."For your consideration: While trying to overcome any health challenges, drink plenty of water, eat organic fresh fruit and vegetables, and stay yeast free if possible. Suppliment with Wheat Grass and nutrients that will help balance your pH. Stay away from fermented foods, alcohol, vinegar, all soy products, most breads, and all sugars."
This appears to be a general suggestion for optimal health and not a requirement for taking Molecula Silver, as the above statement does not appear with the directions, but below them.
PNJ- At the moment I am taking MMS with 100% apple juice (nothing added) and activating it with lime juice. I was planning to wait until I get overseas to make my citric acid solution, just because its a white flaky powder-like substance and having an open container of it (even if sealed shut in a ziplock) in my luggage makes me nervous. I'm debating whether to mix up a bit since I don't leave until this Friday, because while reading part two of Jim's book he recommends using the citric acid solution while trying to treat H. Also, he talks about the size of the drops used, and that an extra drop or two of lime juice won't hurt anything but if the drops are smaller than they should be the mixture won't work at the optimal level. I'm at 12 drops now and wondering if I'll experience an explosion of side effects when switching to citric acid solution. I've been following the treatment closely, but not really sure what I should do at this point. I'm glad I haven't had extreme nausea or anything that would require me to drop my dose. But I have felt some mild side effects at 11 and 12 drops which makes me think and feel that its working.
That's good to hear about the diet while taking Silver. It will be easier to stick to their recommendation overseas, which is where I will be doing it. Its almost impossible to remove sugar from your diet in America. Every single processed food has it here. Anyways, I'll keep posting the results of my treatment. Hope everyone else does the same!
pnj
Yes i have given it very much thought and plan on doing so. I will probably wait until 2 months out when im in a town and can do one of the anoymous labs and pay for it out of pocket. Of course by then i will have mms finished and hope to see some good results. Im at 15 drops and have been for a week now roughly. The only side effects im expierencing anymore is pains on both my side's, and chemical like taste that never seems to leave my mouth. Oh well. Also the medavir came in and have began using it. Couldnt of came at a better time i had a big scare. Both my eyes starting getting blister like things on each eye lid and i was thinking holy crap i gave myself H on my eyes by transferring it. Went to eye doctor who said very doubtful and thought it was angular bifitus (i dont know spelling) talk about releived
well no posts in a whole day- i will break the ice. hope everyone is doing well.
im on my 14th day of mms 15drops. I wanted to switch from using lemon juice as my activator to using the crystals but i cant find the crystals :) so I will order some more and just use the crystals when they come. next week (7 days) I will begin trying to add a third dose to my daily routine. oh boy is right :)
Im on my 5th day of 15 drops. I believe I found a way to beat the taste. Drink with a straw..lol I put the straw as far back past the taste buds, comfortable. Drink nonstop. When I seen the juice was about a sip away from being gone, I started pouring in more juice. So when I finally take the straw out to capture a taste all I got was the last bit of juice I just poured. Worked for me. Now you just have to make sure you dont smell it. I take a few good breaths before I start so while Im drinking I really dont have to inhale thru my noise.
i prefer the taste almost like a fine wine, when i sit and drink it it reminds me of my pool party days, lol sorry had to toss a joke in there. It taste horrible i dont know if i can use a straw but its worth a shot.
All is well in my fairy tale land here minus the pains in my side no complaints. Is anyone planing on testing soon?
I hit 13 drops today and the taste doesn't really bother me with apple juice. It was unbearable the two times I took it with water. Unfortunately, I know I'll have to take at least one more dose with water when I first get overseas...And I'm not sure about finding the right kind of juice to take it with when I get over there. I don't think the ingredients are listed in English over there, so its going to be a task to translate.
Anways, DONTKNOWY- Do you know when you plan to incorporate that third dose? After reading the second part of Jim's book, I'm starting to think the best method is to take your day's second dose within two hours of the first. This may be a difficult task but I think I might try this when I reach that point. We'll see, I've got the Silver sitting there waiting for me too. Good luck!
PACKMAN - From what I've read, Citric Acid does indeed make a more consistent and stronger solution, though I wouldn't be able to tell you how much stronger since I've never used MMS with lemon or lime juice. I agree with you about not wanting to carry unusual powders with you on a plane, I'd hate to read about you on the news, lol. The basic trick to avoiding sugar here is by simply sticking to vegetables, dairy, and meats with the occasional fruit. I actually recall getting quite physically fit when I followed this once (it's basically the Adkins diet - the fruit is added after the first couple of weeks). It isn't until you get into, as you say, packaged and processed foods that the trouble begins.
FIRERAGE101 - OMG, I'm so glad you didn't transfer it to your eyes! I know what you mean, I keep my nails short and wash my hands obsessively! Not sure what that chemical taste in your mouth could be. I did not experience that, but I did notice an improvement in my hearing, smell, and taste buds.
DONTKNOWY - The straw technique did not work for me. I could still "smell" it when I breathed or belched. The only thing that worked in terms of smell elimination was Pomegranite, Blueberry (fresh), and Prune Juice.
PACKMAN - The correct way to incorporate the 3rd dose is to first get accustomed to 15d/2x. Once you do that, you should add a third dose in the afternoon, beginning with 1 drop. Ideally, your drops should be spaced out approximately 8 hours apart. So if I took my morning dose at 7am, my afternoon dose would be 3pm, and my evening dose would be 11pm. These times are approximate, so no need to set an alarm.
Hey all, well I can't seem to get into my blog! I can view it, but when I log in to add a new post, there's an error message. Has anyone else had this?
Still on 9 drops today. Naughty me missed a dose Saturday night (also Friday night!), and as a result, had a padrome yesterday, but guess what? It's gone today, and no OB!! It's taught me a very big lesson, that everyone should take note of..... DON'T MISS DOSES!! lol. The positive from all this is, MMS is powerful stuff and really does work. Prior to MMS, I'd never had an padrome that didn't turn into an OB (without taking Lysine), and I'm not taking Lysine or anything else for H. I can literally feel the "zap" of MMS meeting with the virus down below, and then no OB occurs, padrome is gone and I'm back to normal. One thing I have noticed though, is extreme tiredness when I have had a padrome and MMS has killed it in its replication stage, which is a good thing, but I must STOP missing doses! All this from just 9 drops!!! Can you imagine what 15 drops does to H? Had to share this with you all, although I do feel rather silly sharing the fact that I've missed a few doses, but the outcome is all good.
Hope you're all doing well!
ALL - So I just got home about a couple of hours ago from seeing TrueCures. This was not a planned meeting, but once I heard he was going to be in San Francisco this weekend, I simply had to see what he was all about... SO here's the scoop...
It is too soon to tell whether or not what he did has worked, BUT, I do completely agree with his philosophy on health. His thoughts about health is that we truly do have the ability to heal ourselves, and he works under this universal law. The healing lies in the basic understanding that parasites are what compromises our health. Through his techniques, we were able to pin-point where the problems lie in my body, and kick my body into gear to kill the parasites that are hosting the viruses in my system.
We also discussed MMS quite a lot, and we both agree that MMS is a great option for anyone looking for a "formula" to take. While MMS takes time to travel through the system to do it's thing, TrueCures has a method that he says has cured people in a matter of days. I will know in about a week or so if this is indeed the case, as I have stopped taking my MMS. This was not the initial plan, but I agree with TrueCures, for me to know if what he's done has worked and in order to allow my body to adjust, I need to let it "breathe".
One thing we definitely agreed on is that MMS has definitely made the job of me getting cured easier. Many ailments that normally go hand in hand with herpes was simply nowhere to be found, and I can attest to all the other ailments that have vanished. I should mention though, that according to his treatment, I still have virus in my system, which was not surprising to me as I have not yet followed the complete "herpes protocol" of MMS. There is no way to know how much virus I still need to fight off, but I remain impressed with his techniques, as they seemed very consistent and my responses involuntary.
I, along with a few others, plan to see TrueCures again tomorrow before he leaves tomorrow just to ensure we have a good understanding of how this works and how to keep our bodies healthy. I would encourage anyone who has an interest in cure methods to have a looksie at his website (www.truecures.com). While MMS works, his treatment could be a wonderful alternative for anyone who is able to travel to see him. I understand he will also travel as long as his expenses are covered... special thanks to AWOODSCH for allowing me to participate, especially on such short notice!
Right now my plan is to wait the allotted time to see if the TrueCures technique has worked. Per his advice, I am also following a low carb and no sugar diet for about a week to ensure the eratication of candida. Most of the issues I had pertaining to Candida were completely eliminated while on MMS, but this diet will be added insurance. If all goes well, I can decide on a retest date and begin my maintenance dose of MMS once I've given this therapy a chance to work. I should mention that TrueCures does not discourage MMS, Molecula Silver, or suppliments etc., however, he does ask that you avoid them for a time after his treatment to give the body time to kick into "cure" mode.
TECH - I reckon everyone was just enjoying the weekend, as I haven't seen much activity on any HUBS until recently.
AZ1 - Try logging out, then logging in again... and stop skipping, lol. Your therapy mirrors mine in so many ways. If the treatment I tried today does not work, we will most likely be doing 15d/3x almost at the same time. I can't tell you how nice it is to not have to deal with OB's anymore, however, I will be even happier to know that herpes is gone for good!
Packman- Not sure yet maybe in another week. I think Ill get through 2 weeks at this pase, then Ill add the 3rd. I really hate that we have to do it 3 times a day. I have to force myself to take it twice a day now. And 3-4 months damn. I cant wait for this to be over with. When I do start the 3 I'm going to do it after each meal breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So that way I know I have food in my stomach.
PNJ- Did you have to pay to see him? What exactly does he do to you? How long do you have to stay away from all other methods? Sounds pretty interesting...
PNJ- I have to respectfully disagree that there is no standard protocol yet for incorporating the third dose, as different diseases require different treatments. Maybe 8 hours apart was what Jim Humble recommended, and if so I will trust his judgment. But I also recall him saying that there have not been enough trials on H patients yet and he's interested to hear our results. It plainly spells out in his books several times, that to treat more agressive diseases like Cancer, AIDS, malaria, hep C, etc. that you should take a second dose within two hours of your first dose. Obviously, H isn't as terminally threatening to us as those diseases, but since it hides deep in our cells it may benefit from this method. I guess maybe this is a more agressive way to ensure that the MMS gets all the way in to do its job. Sometimes if the patient is very sick, the MMS will be used up before it can get to all parts of the body and this second dose taken shortly after ensures that the MMS does its job fully. He also mentions that the nightly dose is very important because the body does a lot of work while at rest. Finally, since the MMS works its way through the body up to 12 hours, I don't believe it is necessary to follow an 8 hour interval. That is just my opinion, as I am a merely a student and test subject of this medicine, just like you.
Personally, I am torn about what steps to take after I reach 15 drops 2x for two weeks. Part of me wants to work up to 18 drops, which is mentioned in the book and since I am a big guy my body may be able to handle it. There's also the option of incorporating a third dose, whether it is 2 hours after my morning dose or at an 8 hour interval. I'm not sure if I'll be able to handle a 2 full doses within 2 hours of each other (especially since I'll be working at a school during this period), so if I choose this route I may try the smaller doses (1-5 drops) within this timeframe and then space the doses out more evenly as I get to higher doses. My third option is to start taking the silver with MMS, which is what I will probably do. I guess that's why this hub is so invaluable, so that we have direct contact with other people trying to find the right regimine who can share their experiences.
Personally I'm kindof torn at the moment, because after I do 2 weeks
DONTKNOWY - Hopefully, you will not need to continue for 3-4 months. I believe he was just giving us some guidelines so we understand how difficult herpes can be to kill. You'll want to be sure you get it all before you stop, and I certainly hope you can do that in as short a time as possible.
I did not have to pay to see TrueCures. He asked that I consider sending him a donation if his therapy works, which really gives me hope that he may be onto something. His main technique is explained on his website, and involves activating glands in our system to seek and eliminate parasites. If I were not so familiar with alternative therapies, I would have thought his techniques rather kookie, but I did really connect with what he said. He explains it all on his website and I believe his contact information is there also. He asked that I stay away from other methods for about a couple of weeks to allot for the time it takes his methods to work (7-14 days if I recall correctly).
whoops, not sure what that last line is about.
So PNJ, I'm confused. Above you mentioned about going to 3x a day doses, but also that you are suspending your treatment and then starting maintenance doses after the True Cures thing has time to run its course. What exactly are your plans?
PACKMAN - You are in control of your own health, so if you wish to take MMS according to the protocol for a terminal disease, that is your right. I am simply pointing out that this is not how it was explained to me in terms of incorporating a 3rd dose. I also want to point out that I stated the times are approximate. Nobody said it had to be 8 hours on the nose. It's not an exact science so we should use our common sense and best judgement.
I'm not sure where the confusion lies, but I will repeat what I said before. My meeting with TrueCures was unplanned, so I was unaware of what to expect. In light of the methods he applied today, I will need to suspend my therapy until after the allotted time he recommends. This is the only way I will know if what he did works, and doing too much too soon is not a good thing.
PNJ- I read the information on the site. So does he actually do something to your body or from your comment above did he just tell you some techniques you should do in genera? I notice he said it takes time so did he deal with you one on one? If he did actually do something to you how long did it take? I was also looking for like a schedule to see where is goes but didnt see one. How did you find out he was going to be there? Were there alot of people there to see him?
I know I'm asking 101 questions...sorry
PNJ- The confusion was when you told AZ1 you'd be doing 15/3x at around the same time. I understand and agree that we both have the right to follow our own protocol since there is no universal plan in place with this treatment. I read and understood all of your points and was simply offering my opinion. As I'm sure we all know, when contradictary ideas present themselves on hubs/email/instant messaging/etc., it is easy to misinterpet the context and intent of the message because of the lack of non-verbal communication and the ability to read the person face to face. I have learned to limit these types of e-conversations, because I have offended friends when they didn't know I was joking and had more than one relationship with girlfriends end as a result of instant messaging lol. My point simply is, there's no reason for either of us to get defensive (and I don't believe either of us are), as I belive this is the reason there is so much negativity on the Resolve hub and such. The reason I've become an active part of this hub is because of the friendly, open communication environment presented here and the acceptance that everyone is of equal status and importance here. I really hope your TrueCures experience works. If I wasn't leaving the country and strapped for cash, I would taken the first plane to Idaho as soon as I heard about TrueCures several weeks ago...cheers
PNJ - I hope Im not asking for too much..lol I guess Im just looking for you to say he massaged my left elbow while saying a seance then told you to go home and do xyz for a couple days and then you should be fine. but everyones different so he might need to massage your toes to help you....:-)
DONTKNOWY - No worries, I was exactly the same way, lol! I know he had a full schedule today, and I'm not the only one who will be seeing him tomorrow morning. His email address is on his website. That is the best way to get your answers. I would feel horrible if I explained anything incorrectly, lol. I can tell you his basic technique involves testing your muscles for weak points, however, it's a bit more involved than that and I am not comfortable enough to explain it the way he probably could. The meat of his personal techniques is that he helps you to "activate" glands in your body to kill parasites and start the curing.
PACKMAN - Apologies, I just re-read my response to you and it came across as snippy, lol. What I was trying to explain is that meeting TrueCures was totally unexpected, so it's changed my game plan a bit. This is what I said on my original post, and I just didn't feel like repeating the whole thing. AZ1 is still at 9 drops, so at the rate she's going, I willl probably be starting 15d/3x around the same time as her. That was a private joke to AZ1. I'm hoping the methods today have worked, but if they don't, I will need to work my way to 15d/3x instead of just doing a maintenance dose. The only plan right now is to see if today's therapy worked. I'd really like for this to not become a "back & forth", as this is all meant to be just a very straight-forward FYI. Hopefully this clarification helps. Cheers.
Packman- I understand what you are saying about misinterpreting text message. It didnt seem like you were getting defensive to me, you were merely stating you opinion and basically wanted confirmation on whether PNJ was changing her 1st plan. I learned to start putting jestures at the end of my messages such as smiley faces or lol, j/p, lmao or even stating my tone: nonchalant....
PNJ- so before testing this last time you did the 2x/day for two weeks? And before you saw that man you were going to try the 3x/day for two weeks? I remember you saying something about 18 drops. what was that for and how long were you doing/ going to do it at 18 drops?
ALL- Do you know how long the MMS bottle last? Did you have to order another one before you finished your process? Whether you do it for 2 or 3 weeks...
DONTKNOWY - I completed my 15d/2x therapy before retesting. I tried 18 drops briefly in an effort to be more aggressive, but that was before emailing Jim Humble and asking about herpes. I had no side effects at 18 drops.
PNJ- ok Im going to ask one more question then Ill leave you alone...lol Would you suggest( just asking your suggestion ;-)) As I told Pman I will probably start introducing my 3rd drop next week which will be my 2nd week at 15/2x would you suggest once starting the 15/3x do that for additional 2 weeks then stop or like what do you do after that? Start the maintenace or wait 90 days test and then start a maintenace if cool or start the whole process over again for another 2 weeks. You think once you start back you'll have to start a 2 drops again and work back up?
PNJ - LOLLLL. So true!!!! Actually, I'm upping to 10 drops tomorrow! And, guess what? I've overcome something.... the last 2 mornings, I've woken up feeling sluggish and tired. This feeling normally lasts, however since being on 9 drops, about an hour after taking MMS, the sluggishness disappears, and although I'm still "heady" (prob from lack of sleep), I seem to feel more alert and have more energy. In addition, my headache goes as well. I think this is because I'm reaching the "key" dosage of MMS clearing out the "hard to get" crap. The missed doses at night is absolutely compromising my health, so I won't be missing anymore!
10 drops, here I come!!!!!
Oh, I've contacted TrueCures as well... he sounds so cool! And he surfs!!!
hey just a quick update on my doses today...
I moved up to 13 drops today and felt great this morning where yesterday at 12 I felt pretty crappy with a headache and stomach ache and had to lay down for an hour or two. My headache lasted most of the day yesterday. I went out to lunch with my sis today and tried to eat fairly healthy, but the chicken club sandwich I ordered was enormously messy and filled with cheese, ham and bacon bits :( Also had a beer with lunch. I can feel, as others have reported, that my body is craving healthier foods and doesn't like when I eat junk. Immediately after lunch I felt bloated and uncomfortable in my stomach.
Tonight after another 13 drop dose, I got a little fuzzy in my head but not really a headache. Also felt some stomach pangs, and kindof a warmth in my pubic region. It feels like it is really going to work now, but I feel comfortable going up to 14 drops tomorrow.
I anticipate getting up to 15 drops before I leave for overseas on Friday. I will take my morning dose before going to the airport, but between the flights and layovers, it will be nearly 24 hours before I arrive and am able to take another dose. I haven't missed a dose yet, and from the reports it seems that its not the best idea. Missing a dose is inevitable, but my plan is to change over to citric acid solution once I get there. I think it may have a stronger effect than with the lime juice I've been using and expect to feel the effects when I make the switch. I may have to drop back a few drops and get back to 15 while I'm there, but at that point I'm confident that I will be optimizing my treatment and can proceed successfully.
DONTKNOWY - I had to read that a couple of times, lol. I think it depends on you. What are your symptoms like right now? Compare how you are now to how you are after 2-3 weeks at 15d/3x and note the differences. Personally, if the therapy I tried today does not work, I will do 15d/3x daily for about 3 weeks. Resolve states that it takes 90 days for antibodies to disappear, but I seriously question their "medical advice". Having said that, I suppose I will wait at least 1 month to allow my body time to "settle" before retesting. I think the good thing about having a realistic timeframe is that we all armed with a more realistic idea of what it will take to kill this virus.
AZ1 - Okie slow poke, lol! Actually, what you're doing is a good thing. If you had pressed on before you felt it was ok to do so, the only thing you would've done was made yourself feel worse. So it's good to go at a slow and steady pace. I'm glad your side effects are finally vanishing! TrueCures was very pleasant to meet and speak with. I certainly hope his methods work, as he seems to really know what he's talking about.
ALL - So I need to correct my earlier post about why TrueCures recommended I stay away from carbs and sugar for 7 days. This was actually for autoimmune disease and not candida. MMS has already cured me of candida, so this was my misunderstanding and he's now clarified.
pnj28 - I will be terribly curious how it all goes. You need to believe in a guy who cures first and asks for a donation second. The other side of it is if it works does that mean you can walk away from teh medical community forever?
haven't been on here for a while perfering to post in my blog for anyone who's interested. I'm now at 2/11 and 1/15 before I head to bed at night. Working owards 3/15 as the body will allow, but no real problems yet. Seem to be fighting a bit of a cold right now,,, which somehow I feel shouldn't be happening if MMS really works!
Cheers
Hello, PNJ,
I am glad you got to see True Cures! Excellent! Do you mind if I ask when will you get tested (how long will you wait?) and will you post your results on here? I am going to fly to Idaho to see him in April.
How are you feeling? Thanks for answering my questions.
Have a great day!
Kathleen
PNJ- Its kind of hard for me to tell through symptoms because Im one that might get an ob every six months if that. I know the first week I started I had one of those pardomes I believe ya'll call them. When it felt like an ob was coming but never fully formed. Nothing since. So I guess Ill just do the 15/3x for 2 weeks just to be on the safe side then just do a maintenance until I decide to get tested. With the maintenace is that 6/2x day or just once a day?
DONTKNOWY- Actually Jim states that the maintenance dose only needs to be 6 drops twice a week for younger people, but older people should do 6 drops per day since their immune systems are more vulnerable than ours. As long as you did the initial treatment long enough to erradicate the viruses and parasites in your body, there isn't as much bad stuff to kill off so that's why you need so little. Just make sure you do it long enough to get all the H out so you don't have to do the whole thing over again!
Does anyone around here have any idea what Resolve step 1 consists of?
wow great hub...i want mms...
canada they have the contents listed on their website but I had a theory a while back that they are using arginine to flush the virus out;
that was why i stayed away from it because arginine and H in large amounts do not go hand in hand.
I just took my first 15 drops dose this morning! YES!!!!!!
Well my body seems to be handling the 15 drops fairly well. I'm glad I didn't hit the wall and have to back down on my way up. I have noticed being very run down the past few days, though. Saturday, Sunday, and today I needed about a 2 hour nap in the late morning/early afternoon. Still have bad gas too, but never encountered naseau, diahrrea, super runny nose, or cloud brain. Actually I think my sinus problems have gotten better since starting. I just hope my body gets over this run down feeling as I continue at 15, since I am starting my new job next week. Has anyone else noticed their side effects ceasing after awhile?
PNJ: Yall must have forgot that I did resolve for a month starting at 2 drops..I would stay on each dose for days before I moved on to 4 drops, 6 drops ect.. I did not just jump in and start at these dosages.. I worked my way up.. I did it for 3weeks I know at only one dose at night remember..I don't know if I am completely healthy or not but I do know that I have only had one ob while using step 3 of Resolve and MMS..and that was on a day that I drank two 8oz glasses of hawaiin punch about 4-5 days ago.. I can't explain it either.. I have thrown up at school about a week ago because I took the dose at 645am and about 810am I was walking out of class because I had to earl. I have had two diarrhea episodes that were a one time thing both times..did not ride the pot all day and when I had another bm that day(both times) it was regular..I am this close to drinking coffee or coke and having a milky way, just to test.. I have had very itchy thighs and an itching like scratch about 7cm from my wrist that started as one bump and has mutated to a long line almost wrapping around my arm... I think it was running but I have not had so much as an itch from it in 2weeks..So you tell me what is going on???
Man oh man am I having problems with MMS. The way up to 15 was fine, but getting past that level is hell. My stomach is just not taking to it anymore at any level. I tried 10 drops this morning, thinking I'd go back down to 30 a day and build from there, but even the 10 is causing me problems! Have a really strong acrid taste in my mouth, and my tongue is white! It's all on my blog... very discouraged.
Canada- Im confused about what u mean. Why do want to go past 15 drops. What do you at 30? How would 10 drops take u down to 30. Im confused.
Oh ok I read your blog and see what you mean 10 drops/3x day. By reading your blog u state you have not been able to eat that could be the problem. Ive learned I wont have a good day if I dont eat a decent meal before taking. Honestly it sounds like you doing a bit much its confusing. why do you only take 15 at night but do 11 the other times? I understand starting off low when you add the 3rd dose but Im not understanding why you do 11, 11, 15? All in all whatever you take if you dont eat right you will continue to have the bad feelings. But like they said the bad feeling is good because it's killing something that doesnt need to be there so dont give up just try to eat more before taking..
All- what happen to everybody. Does nobody come here anymore?
Dontknowy- I originally went to 2/16. Then then there was a suggestion from Jim Huimble to work up to 3/15, So I dropped back to 2/15 and added in a third dose of 3, then 4, then 5 drops etc. So basically 2/15 & 1/3-7. but to do that I tried to hang onto the 2/15 and bring the other up. What eneded up happening was that the 2/15 doses ended up closer together to accomodate the 1/7. But the net result was not good. So I figured that because the 15 drop dose before bed didn't bother me I'd keep that and split the other to 2/11. yesterday morning as soon as I drank the first 2/11 I knew I was in trouble! Was deathly sick all day. So I've decided to fall back from 37 drops a day combined to 3/10 and build that back slowly and evenly. Todays been tollerable, and I'm not as ill!I've also had to forego my "macho" and trade my distilled water for juice. Still makes my body tremble after the dose, but it has slowed the gag reflex!
Thanks for the feedback. I do eat reasonably well, but yesterday there was no holding onto it!
Are you on MMS? How far along?
Oh, and from what I've seen everyone is in the chat room at night!
Cheers
Yeah, Ive been at 15/2x for a week now. I havent added my 3rd dose yet. I wish I didnt have too. I cant stand taking the two as it is, well its not that bad now that I use a straw and I have to switch my juice for apple to the blueberry pom... Oh my you take it with water, woow. Never even thought to attempt it that way...I dont take my 1st dose til after 1pm so Im trying to find time to fit in my 3rd since I really only eat a decent meal twice a day. Im not a breakfast person so its like I have to force myself to eat that early. I went to the chat twice and no one was there not sure where everyone is located but what time are they usually there eastern time?.
Hey fellow hubbers, I have a small problem and need some advice:
Today is my third day of 15/2x and I've been taking my doses at 9:30 am/pm. My flight for Asia leaves tomorrow morning EARLY. I've already accepted the fact that I will miss a full dose, maybe even two and that I'll have to start my period of 15 drops over again. My problem is that I have to leave for the airport at 4am tomorrow. I've tried to ween my time back a bit by taking doses 11 hours apart, but haven't been able to wake up early enough to do it. I will take my night dose tonight at about 8pm, but that leaves only 8 hours before my morning dose. I'm thinking of just taking a 6 drop maintenance dose in the morning, because otherwise it would almost be like jumping from 15/2x to 15/3x in one day. I've had success getting up to 15 without having to back down but I'm fairly certain my body couldn't handle this kind of jump. I've got a LONG day of travel ahead so I don't want to make myself miserable and sick through it. Any advice or suggestions?
Hey Packman,
I've been around the bush trying to work in a third dose and from hard cold experience I can tell you that taking my 2x/15 doses too close together knocked me flat. Only have a sec. You can read all about it in my blog. For me it wasn't pretty, but that's just my experience.
Having said that I'm on day 2 of 3x/10 and things seem to be getting back to normal, so I'm not sure there will be any problem missing some doses and then starting back up. (I missed 2 to give myself a chance to recover from my self imposed OD!!) Presumably we all have a ways to go to get to 3x/15, so hopefully by then you'll be back to a regular schedule.
Good luck and have a good trip!
Thanks Canada. Yeah I don't want to push it especially since I'm gonna start this 15 2x cycle over with citric acid solution when I get there (I've been using lime juice). I had a small case of diahrrea today about two hours after my morning dose, my first since beginning MMS. I'm starting to think maybe I should back down to 12 drops for my night dose and do 6 drops in the morning right before I leave for the airport.
I also anticipate missing a minimum of two doses during my travels. It may be hard to find an approved juice when I get there, plus I have to make it to the store to buy a tablespoon to mix my critric acid solution and a glass to make the doses. I'm not pumped about taking a short break but I guess this is perfect timing since I've found out that I could make it up to 15 drops without a problem. Better than being nearly two weeks into full doses and wondering if I've compromised the entire treatment...
Packman,
Have a wonderful trip and good luck with everything! Drop me a line every once in a while if you have time.
Cheers,
Kathleen
Hey Packman,
MMS is supposed to be an immune booster, so I’m working on the assumption that missing a dose or two on my way to 3x/15 shouldn't cause any problem, as long as I maintain the 3x/15 for two weeks. I had a look at Jim Humble's site recently and he mentions that no-one has yet to prove with blood work that MMS works on Herpes, besides offering relief from outbreaks. From what I've seen on this blog and others we're all sort of pioneers... a word I like better than guinea pigs!
Also i started with lemon juice and changed to citric acid and didn;t notice any difference.
Cheers
Hey guys,
Did a search on MMS & Herpes and came across this artilce.
http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.h
Have a look at the section dealing with berry juice ect! Antioxidents are apparently not so good! makes sense now that I'm reading it... now what?
Cheers
Pman- I dont think missing a day of doses will hurt anything either. I havent missed 2 whole days but I can say I have missed a day and was fine when I started back the next. Good luck
Hi guys, apologies for being MIA. I hope I don't miss anyone in my replies... Just a quick update on my TrueCures treatment. So far, I feel fine. I've not taken MMS since about a couple of days before meeting TC, and all appears to be going smoothly. I was a bit sore after my visit with him, but that now seems to be subsiding, and I do seem to be feeling very good. I'm also dropping pounds faster than I can count, which is probably due to my new eating habits. My body generally does not like to process carbs in the first place, so eliminating sugars (not including veggies) has really put my body into high gear! I also remain OB free.
CANADA - I have to say, he did make me a believer, and I will happily send him a nice donation if his treatment is as powerful as he says it is. It's too soon to tell right now, but generally I do feel very good. Yes, he basically says that using this method to stay healthy truly does eliminate one's need for "modern medicine" generally speaking. However, this does not mean that modern medicine will become null and void. Are you incorporating a 3rd drop before you reach 15 drops at twice a day? I couldn't understand what you posted. If you have not yet reached 15 drops 2x daily, you should not be trying to incorporate a 3rd dose. You will only have problems.
KATHLEEN - It's honestly too soon to get into that. I will post more on what I plan to do after TrueCures once I've waited the allotted time and have had a chance to decide. Of course, regardless of my test results, I will share them with this HUB.
DONTKNOWY - You may need to do MMS a bit longer than that, although I'm sure it's different for everyone. The maintenance dose, according to Jim Humble can be as much as everyday (morning preferred) or as little as twice a week. PACKMAN, I'm not sure where you got the distinction, but there was none made in my literature, as it depends more on a persons health condition than age.
PACKMAN - Side effects should cease rather quickly at the higher doses. The gas takes a while to vanish though. I would recommend you go ahead and skip for the sake of your travels. It doesn't sound like you have an alternative. You can always pick up where you left off once you reach your destination. If you're nervous, start at a lower dose. Have a fun and safe trip!
DENNI - Resolve and MMS are not one in the same. Their product does indeed contain Chlorine Dioxide, but in much lower quantities. Your dosages sound way off protocol to me (30 drops per dose is WAY too high), so I would again encourage you to re-read the literature and follow it to the letter. You do your body more harm than good by bombarding yourself and getting to the stage of vomiting.
CANADA - Whereabouts in that article does it say that MMS should not be taken with blueberry or antioxidant containing juices? I'm asking because Jim Humble openly recommends pomegranite juice, which contains plenty of antioxidants, and I've experienced no problems whatsoever in using apple, fresh blueberry, pomegranite, and prune juice. I think we should all choose a juice that works for us and leave it at that. This literature sounds interesting, but I would like to see more about the credentials of the person making these claims, as there is a lot of misinformation out there.
Thanks PNJ for your input...I have found alot of useful info online as well and I have read that our bodies will let us know if we are overdoing it..hence the nausea and diarrhea....Again I have been taking the doses 15 drops twice a day both within two hours as recommended in Jim Humbles book...and I have to say..so far so good..no problems at all...Thanks again..
PNJ- It states this in part 2 of Jim's book, 3rd Edition page 83:
"(1) For maintenance use six drops MMS with one of the food acids mentioned above. Young people can use it twice a week, but older people (over 60) should use 6 drops every day."
Here is another part from the second edition that might interest some people:
"I suggest you to use the citric acid as the activator in the case of herpes. With severe cases take the MMS every two hours for several days. When taking it every two hours one can take smaller doses. This keeps the MMS penetrating deeper and deeper. In worse cases, one may have to use the MMS intravenously."
I'm still undecided as to what I will do after completing 15 2x for two weeks and then completing another two weeks of the same with silver. At that point I will have been using MMS for 6 weeks. I might experiment with smaller doses throughout the day every two hours, may not.
As most of you have commented, I know its not going to necessarily "hurt" me to skip a dose or two. But the worry I have with MMS and H in particular, is that skipping a dose give the virus an opportunity to begin replicating itself again. At this point in my treatment I'm not so concerned because I just reached 15 drops. But once I've been on the max dose for a couple weeks I will be sure not to miss one dose based on that possibility.
I'll check in soon after I arrive. Thanks for the good wishes!
PNJ,
greetings and glad to hear you saw truecures. Give some details if you can. You went to Idaho?? How long were you there? Besides no sugar and carbs for 7 days, anything else. Were you taking MMS during those 7 days. Is the only thing you can eat is protein like meat fish chicken tuna etc. Anything else and hopefully it works. how will you know what the results are as I know the IgG will still show up so how can one tell if it is working. Anything pertinent, please share. I will probably go see him sometime by summer.
Chip
hi all- AZ1 how are you doing?
canada very good article. however I couldnt really understand your concept of no berries etc. However the article was very informative and was a reassurance that we are indeed on the right track and the trigger signs are also helpful. aches- headaches- rhea- etc and a lot of other good points in that article.
also I found some fresh air for us- in the form of others with success- http://www.natmedtalk.com/mms-miracle-mineral-supp
PNJ so glad to see you return from hiding.
ok so I am totally missing something. how are people able to do 15drops so close together and not feel anything? I botched my dose last night because I was sleepy when mixing it- and put one extra drop of lemon juice in the glass and at 76 drops I wasnt gonna pour it out and start over (proably should have) and was too scared to do 16drops of mms so I just mixed my mms and took it. Thinking surely this one little drop of lemon juice cant cause too much trouble. well i got proved wrong in the worst way. at 330 this am i woke up to TERRIBLE TERRIBLE cramps that I was grabbing my stomach trying to stop the pain. at 9am when it was time for my next dose my tummy was still reeling but I got it down. I am not trying to call anyone a liar persay but I wanna know what I am missing. When most people on this hub try anything radical with MMS we pay for it dearly. so what am I missing? mms only stays in the system for 12 hours so isnt there a risk of leaving your system compromised?
so I have collodial silver that I take- but am thinking about this moll silver. has anyone figured out how to take it yet? meaning whats your plan since it has time constraints
Hey techie - just a FYI I've been reading part two of Jim's book lately, and in one passage he says that an extra drop or two really shouldn't have an effect on compromising the dose. However, even one drop below the 5-to-1 ratio WILL, because there is not enough activator to make the solution full strength. Again maybe you would want to double check by emailing Jim because sometimes the advice he gives varies or tends to be slightly contradictary. Don't get me wrong I still believe in the MMS. I distinctly remember this from the book as I read it just a few days ago. Another area of concern that he mentioned was drop size, to make sure they come from an approved cap size. A bit strange but makes sense I guess. A larger hole will yield a larger drop. I think the most important thing is that the size of the MMS drop and the size of the activator drop are equal. Otherwise perhaps the doses are being compromised without you even knowing it. Just some food for thought.
PS- I've decided not to tempt the gods, since I'm flying out early I just took my regular 15 drop dose tonight, and will skip the morning dose to avoid any potential problems since I know I can't take another dose for 24-36 hours anyways.
Techie/everyone just to clarify, I was referring to the activator in my last post. Obviously, an extra drop of MMS would have quite a large effect.
Ok this was the last post before I leave I promise.
lol packman you addict- youll see this after you land. i will not be doing any more mucking of my doses tired or not. this was a one time thing. Ive also read the droppers dont yeild the same drop size everytime so theres reason for concern there. I wanted to premeasure but got so scared so it will be manual counting for me. let us know how it goes over seas.
Just going through this page. Don't know what if anything was edited out so not sure how some of it fits together. The page I posted was mainly for interest. If you read the bit under "incompatabilities" you'll see what I was referring to. We are taking MMS because of it's oxidizer properties, which the article seems to support, which is reassuring. Also suggests that it won't kill me, which is also reassurung! It suggests then that taking anti oxidents may run contrary to this therapy. Not a doctor, don't know if it's correct. Just sort of makes sense somehow so I thought it worth mentioning.
There is no way I can keep my 2x/15 drops and introduce a third dose. Tried it and the results were UGLY UGLY UGLY. So I've split the 2x/15 to 3x/10, and will build up from there. Just the experience I had. if you can just start a third dose with no problem then good on ya... my body said NO in a big way!
cheers
PACKMAN - Yes it does say that in the book, but he also says what I stated previously. I think the important thing to remind ourselves is that MMS is NOT a medication, therefore, we cannot prescribe it as such. These protocols will be slightly different for some and are stated as guidelines to give us an idea of where we need to be. Per the email response I got from Jim Humble and posted here, the protocol for herpes is 15 drops 3x daily for up to 3-4 months.
CHIP - TrueCures was in my city, which is why seeing him was so spur of the moment. The no sugar or carbs aspect had to do with another ailment and is temporary. My body already likes this diet to begin with, so it was not an issue. It consists of meats, fish, dairy, veggies, and nuts. It's too soon to know if what he did worked, but I certainly do agree with his philosphy and understanding of health. I'm very glad I met him, and if all goes well, I would like to have him in my city again.
TECH - Heya girlie! Funny enough, I've accidentally dropped an extra drop or two a couple of times, and it was fine. Are you sure you ate enough? I'm not sure why you got cramps all of a sudden, but that's all I could think of. Molecula Silver is stronger and easier for your body to absorb. According to the directions I have, you take it in the morning and evening on an empty tummy, and your meals need to be spaced so that you don't eat 4 hours prior to taking it. You would take the Silver according to its own protocol and not "with" MMS.
CANADA - Yes, I read that portion, but it didn't seem to "click" with me that we should avoid juices containing antioxidants since most fruit juices contain them to some degree or another. I thought the article was generally interesting, but I didn't seem to understand where the "dangers" implied were stemming from.
I will explain the math to you so that you will understand why it is best to start with 2x daily at 15. If you are splitting your doses by 3 and upping your drops that way, then this means you will be adding 3 extra drops per day instead of 1. This will almost guarantee negative side effects, as it is difficult enough getting used to 1 extra drop let alone 3. However, if you were already accustomed to 15 drops 2x daily, you would only need to incorporate a 3rd dose in the afternoon. You would start the same way you started to begin with; 1 drop, upping 1 drop per day until you reach 15. I have never heard or read of anyone having any issues doing it this way, which is why this is the route I will take should I need to continue my therapy. I am speaking from experience when I say this to you, as it was only about a month ago when I tried what you're doing. You are, of course, free to do what works for you, but I would like you to please consider that others here who have been taking MMS for a while are only trying to help you succeed without any problems. I see people get discouraged when they run into problems too many times, so my flag always goes up when I see that something is amiss.
CANADA - PS. Your comments were not edited and are still quite visible. I did remove a few of someone else's posts that were argumentative because that is not what this HUB is for... that is why we have chat. :-) In regards to this HUB, its main objective is to share accurate information and experiences, so I do have a tendency to remove bickering, especially when no real information is being shared.
ALL - I know many of you are extremely curious about my visit with TrueCures, so I've decided to write the details of my visit with him on my blog. The details are here also, but I know what a pain it is to sift through all the posts, and I don't want to miss any details.
Hey PNJ,
Thanks for the advice. No I'm thinking that going three drop increase would land me in a local hospital. I'll be upping things by 1-2 drops a day, depending on my tollerance, and adding evenly as I go. I was taking my 2/16 dose 12 hours apart, and that was working fine. Adding a third just didn't work. Also doses at 8,4, and midnight seem to be fitting into my life schedule pretty well... but totally appreciate the advice and feedback! :o)
Just to clarify, I saw that mine were there.. just seemed like some were misssing, but didn't know which. Really appreciate this space as a place to exchange ideas and thoughts, both pro and con. This is all "experimental", so its great to be able to consider others experiences when considering which direction to move in. Actually it was through a Resolve page that I opted to try MMS!
Cheers
hey pnj,
Just wondering if you've given any thought to retesting. I've been following your blog for quite a while and your lack of outbreaks and symptoms left me pondering the level of antibodies following an infection.
I did some reading on the web and too much information was presented to digest. So I asked a friend who just finished her masters in some sort of area that deals with deadly virus' and after confirming her initial thoughts came back with AB have a half life of a week. (AUG!!! Why are there no clear answers?) Anyway seems to me that if we become virus free then levels of AB should start to drop relatively soon, but perhaps not to a level that would test negative. ... anyway just wondering...
Cheers
hey pnj,
Just wondering if you've given any thought to retesting. I've been following your blog for quite a while and your lack of outbreaks and symptoms left me pondering the level of antibodies following an infection.
I did some reading on the web and too much information was presented to digest. So I asked a friend who just finished her masters in some sort of area that deals with deadly virus' and after confirming her initial thoughts came back with AB have a half life of a week. (AUG!!! Why are there no clear answers?) Anyway seems to me that if we become virus free then levels of AB should start to drop relatively soon, but perhaps not to a level that would test negative. ... anyway just wondering...
Cheers
Good morning to everyone, its been a long time since ive posted. Well i'll fill everyone in.
Approx a week my left eye developed a red spot on the outerside, followed by small red bumps/spots randomly throughout the entire eyelid top and bottom, soon to be followed by my right eye. Went to the eye docter concerned it was H and he said no he felt it wasnt because of how both eyes became spotted and the typical blisters never formed just a few small bumps with red everywhere. Approx 3-4 days later it got worse bumps everywhere but only on eye lids and began itching burning. Went to family docter who refused to run a culture or test as he felt it was not H based of pure looks and what he is used to seeing, Drove immediately back to eye docter who examined and once again repeated he felt bacterial infection as if it were H it would be the worst and oddest case he has ever seen as it was both eye's and no patter to it. Well went to bed and the very next day all spots were gone, except for a couple small area's. WEIRD. So if it comes back then i have cause for concern if it doesnt WOW thats all i can say talk about being scared. WIth the fact it came on so quickly and didnt look like any pictures on the net of H all ic an say is im releived but slightly uptight. To add insult my sides both began hurting, (kidneys i assume) So i had to make the choice to stop MMS until this clear's. Where as i dont beleive it caused it i dont think my body could deal with the overload of waste created due to its killing action.
Sorry long post. With all the above being said they checked me for HIV, HEP C both negative. And im just waiting to get better one day at a time altought today i feel wonderful mostly. I will continue to monitor and be here on this site.
Hope everyone is doing well, anyone planning on testing soon
FIRERAGE101 - OMG, that sounds horrific! I wish that doc had tested your eyes. It must be pure hell wondering if it's herpes. Do what you can to think positive and relax. Hopefully, it will not return.
ALL - So I want to address a couple of things due to a few posts that I deleted on this HUB from DENNI & "CENNI". I have not read all of her posts, but I want to reiterate that this HUB is not for nonsense and bickering. I personally don't enjoy reading negative posts, and I certainly don't want to subject anyone else on this HUB to that nonsense either.
For anyone confused by what's happened, the problem is with the dosages. DENNI was previously a major Resolve supporter and now claims to be using MMS. However, when asked about her dosages, she claims to be up to 30 drops MMS 2x daily. Now anyone using MMS knows that not only is this near impossible for someone just starting out, but it is NOT possible for someone with a virus. I, and I believe TECHIE, initially tried to step in to explain the protocol. I personally was also a bit puzzled in regards to her lack of negative side effects at such a high dose (which is not recommended... ever), and wanted to ensure she was mixing the solution correctly. At 30+ drops, nausea and diarrhea would be the least of your problems, lol.
Resolve uses Chlorine Dioxide in their step 3, but in a diluted form, so it cannot be compared with MMS. A person who has used Resolve will not have a higher tolerance for MMS due to it's diluted content and the shorter protocol. This HUB was created to provide accurate information about MMS and for others who wish to discuss their experiences in peace. Anyone attempting to lie about using MMS in an effort to discredit it's effectiveness will be spotted immediately and removed. This is not meant to be an insinuation, it's meant to be a blatant accusation. If anyone has anymore questions or comments about this, please ask via email or on chat, as I will not allow anymore posts on this subject. It takes up too much time and space, and the focus of this HUB is cures not childish babble.
Thanks PNJ im doing what i can, still very nervous and uptight hoping this completely goes away and doesnt come back and if it does then well, all i can do is insist on a test and pray. Im still a big big believer that the cure for H will not come from a medical team producing it, but from a medical team producing a cure for another viral that happens to double and work on H. Ive been following Bavituximab very closely and im convinced that this will be the answer if MMS is not. I do believe MMS will lesson the viral load and wonder if the treatment should be every two hours or so for a few days at approx 5 or 6 drops to have a massive effect. But then again thats why we are all here to learn and beat this together.
Interesting enough the patent for Valtrex expires soon (this year) so im also convinced a new stronger more effective drug will show up being no one has the rights anymore to one particular treatment and it will soon be offered in generic form
FIRERAGE - Perhaps you should insist on a test if for nothing more than your own peace of mind. I think many times doctors want to shrug things off, but at the end of the day, you are the one that has to sit there and wonder. I can see it's driving you crazy, and I would be the same way. Since we're all here to take the reins so-to-speak, perhaps pressing the issue and taking charge might give you the peace of mind you need... just a thought.
There are quite a few ways to take MMS, including intravenously, but I know it stays in your system for 12 hours. So taking the drops 2 hours apart would need to be at much lower doses, as you mentioned. It wouldn't hurt to try. Forgive me for asking this again, but what level are you at now? If my session with TrueCures does not work, I will be working my way to 15d/3x with MMS, and I truly believe that will kill the virus over an extended period of time. I also have the Molecula Silver, which I plan to take regardless. What methods are you trying so far. I'm sorry if I'm asking you to repeat yourself, I just don't want to confuse you with anyone, lol.
I'm not a big fan of drugs. I just feel that there's a cure that's closer than anyone of us has ever imagined... and it's not in a pharmacy. I just feel this.
FIRERAGE - PS. I should also mention that I continue to be OB free. It's been almost 3 months now, and I used to get them once or twice a month. The fact that I have ceased taking MMS and continue to be OB free is quite promising... of course it could be TrueCures, but I won't complain, as I'm sure we'll know more and more as time goes on. We just have to be patient. I plan to get retested again down the road, but I would like to give my body more time to adjust.
Hey PNJ,
Was out late last night so today was a highly unmotivated day... so I did some searches on the web. Have posted the links on my blog. Sure you've seen them but from what I've read if you mix MMS with an incompatable antioxident juice you could very well negate the CLO2, so you could possibly drink gallons of it because the CLO2 content would be zero... just hate to think anyone would purposly mislead on here when they know full well that others may follow their lead... and there is such a thing as CLO2 poisoning ay high levels!!!
Cheers
CANADA - The information is interesting, but the only thing that goes against it is that many people do drink it with pomegranite and blueberry juice and still benefit, myself included (and yes, I still had side effects at dosage levels I was not yet accustomed to). All fruits and vegetables contain antioxidants to some degree or another. So while I find the information interesting, I do question the person who wrote that article.
Well i was at 15 drops made it for about two weeks, and like i mentioned have stopped for now. I do wonder if i posioned myself with it for overdoing it.
I cant explain why i began getting so sick just know its going time to heal. But will be willing to try again. I have had what feels like a constant outbreak burning down there never left and has been going on since approx 13 of Feb, so i dont know if it's the DMSO as im still using it off and on, or medavir (currently using it) I will prob have to stay of it all for a week and see what happens or take a week of acyvlovir and see if it goes away if it doesnt well then i can know its the stuff ive been using. Im not giving this a chance to replicate.
As far as test the rash, spots that developed are to far healed and gone to test. During the middle of the onset the doctor explained that the spots wer so small they couldnt lance them if they wanted to, (which is part of the reason they felt it wasnt H)
If it comes back i will insist on a test. So now its the unknown and waiting game. Im sure MMS will kill enough of the viral load combined with your immune system it should keep it at bay at the least. Killing it off completely will be tricky but almost there if not already, good luck.
Didnt the guy on the u tube video say you could use juice? Not sure he is though... and on the instuctions it says juice. Although I do believe I read some where it said freshly sqeezed and not out a container...
Have a look at http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1114600#i1 think its about 2/3 the way down he offers some testing on CLO2 levels with various solutions. He doesn't claim to be a doctor of chemist, but his simple kitchen tests do offer some insight. Most of his posts raise some well thought out questions. I'm probably going back to water with more than 2/3 cup for every 6 drops. Maybe gatoraid mentioned in another posting.
Cheers
that was interesting.. I ordered some strips to see what happens. Im going to test with gatorade and the apple juice.
CANADA & EVERYONE - You CANNOT use Gatorade! It will compromise your dose.
DONTKNOWY - You can take MMS with water or fresh juice that does not contain Vitamin C, Citric Acid, Absorbic Acid, or Sodium Citrate. The best juices to use are apple, carrot, pomegranite, blueberry, or prune.
CANADA - I appreciate the articles you've posted, but they are now leading to misinformation. These articles you are posting are not from MMS experts, and I believe the information to be incorrect at best. Respectfully, we got your point ok? :) If I'm being abrasive, it's because I do not want any newbies reading this HUB believing they should be taking MMS with Gatorade or avoiding juice. Nothing could be further from the truth. My priority is to ensure accurate information is posted here.
good day to everyone, well beggining to feel alot alot better, eyes look real good just a few small spots, thinking of trying a does of mms. Maybe do a 6 drop dose, wait a few and do one more then backing off for a bit. I think im experiencing yet another outbreak (ttoal time between last outbreak and this ONE DAY) so frustrating. I woke up with itching in the usual spot so im going to hit it with MMS today then back off just to shock and kill the virus that is in the blood stream. Anyways all is going well off to wax the truck
FIRERAGE - Well when you mentioned your treatment early on, it was my opinion that it might be overkill. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. MMS will not poison you, but you honestly want to avoid combining too many treatments, bombarding your system and distracting your body from healing. Steady as she goes is really the best approach. I know we're all in a hurry to get cured, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
ALL - So I found a very interesting link that pertains to DENNI. Apparently, she's been posting on another HUB claiming that MMS is poison and sent her to the hospital after taking 30 drops within 2 hours - highly irresponsible if it's true. I say this because she posted this last week. Now you will recall that this week, DENNI posted here that she was taking 30 drops within a 2 hour timeframe with no side effects and that we should all be happy for her and not be "jealous". According to her, her OB's continue despite reaching incredibly high doses.
Most of you who have been posting here for a while know that this is not normally my style. I do not feel "good" about outting someone because I feel it takes away from our purpose. But it really angers me that anyone would come here and blatantly lie in an effort to discredit something that is truly working for most of us. I also have plenty of reason to believe that DENNI has posted here and on other HUBS using aliases. The whole reason this HUB was created was to provide some relief to those who are serious about their therapy and can honestly do without all this childish nonsense.
So I will post the link below, and I honestly want everyone here to seriously consider what they're doing here. If MMS therapy is not for you, then don't take it and please leave others to do their therapy in peace. There is nothing to be gained by coming here, lying, and posting misinformation. Likewise, don't take MMS against the protocol and say it doesn't work. That is retarded, and we're all adults here. I've done my best to provide credible information here, but there is plenty more out there if we're willing to do the work. We need to stick to the facts and remember why we're here. And if you're not here to be cured, or you've got issues with MMS, please take it someplace else.
The following is the link to DENNI's comments on another HUB site: http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no-mi
PS - The link I posted was posted by DENNI herself on the original HUB. I do not read posts there, but it was brought to my attention by a lurker who saw it. I'm stating this because I don't want anyone getting the wrong impression. I did no homework on DENNI and she outted herself however unintentionally.
PNJ
i agree and hope i didnt weaken my immune system instead of strenghten it, my only concern is if i did give it to myself in my eye area, for now things have cleared up but if they come back then well i know and i wont be a happy person. So all i can do is wait.
I just read a press release from U of F mentioning there quest for a cure, it sounds like they have some promising research and will be starting trials if it takes off. This would be a dream to many
FIRERAGE - It wouldn't hurt to take MMS at a smaller dose and more steady pace. I could be wrong, but I wonder if taking meds while on MMS is where the problem lied. MMS has a tendency to treat meds like a toxin, so it can get tricky. Have you considered trying Molecula Silver?
I'd love it if the medical community would jump on board in terms of finding a cure. I'm not holding my breath, but my ears are open, lol.
PNJ thanks however at this time i have to hold off i thought about it most of the day but plan to wait till i feel healthy again i cant risk huritng my body, not to mention im so so so paranoid about my eyes even though they are looking good and gone away. I know if said it before but i think bavituximab will be the answer. Also did some research check this out
http://www.biovex.com/press.html
FIRERAGE - You should always do what is right for you. Good on you for backing down and listening to your body. Cheers for the link. I certainly hope something pans out. In the meantime I'm focusing on natural cures. It feels great to be drug free.
Hey all
I haven't posted for a while... have had heaps of personal stuff going on at home. As a result of everything going on, I actually missed a whole day of MMS and didn't start again until next day at 11.30pm. Anyhow, to cut a long story short, I restarted my dosage at 6 drops (I know PNJ, LOL!), and have increased by one drop every day. Am back up to 8 drops again and will increase to 9 drops tomorrow, then 10 drops the day after. No more compromise, no matter what happens! I'm having major marriage probs at the moment, so this is the main reason for my anxiety and it's also compromising my therapy.
It's interesting to read many comments made on here of late about the affects, or lack of, of MMS. I guess everyone is different, and the protocol will be different for everyone as well, but I have seen what MMS does and how it works on my body, and I'm here to say that IT DOES WORK! And that's on an occasionally compromised dose, as well as only 6 - 8 drops!! Imagine the power of this stuff at 15 drops? I don't believe that I have a heavy HSV strain, and it's HSV1 that I've transferrd from the oral region to the genital region only 18 months ago. Having said that, I've never had huge OB's, but only small ones and it's been the padromes that have been the killer. Well, I virtually don't get OB's anymore, and in particular, I'm OB free after my monthly cycle. This is amazing! The only times I have felt an OB is when I've missed a nightly dose and I've only had 4 hours sleep that same night. I've woken with a padrome, however it's dead within 4 hours of taking MMS (and that's only 8 drops!), and no OB follows. Again, THIS STUFF WORKS! I can't wait to reach 15 drops now and my anxiety is no longer. I take my dose with organic apple juice and forget about it. Sure, I feel a bit icky sometimes, butI know that it's working miracles on my body.
Please people, no more negative
Whats up pnj,
I havent been on in awhile. I think I just had my first ob that I can account for. I felt I little itching in groin area, dont see anything. My bottom lip been extremely dry and chapped for 2 weeks and today my top lip has tiny cluster of bumps. I've seen this before on my lips a long while ago but didnt tie it to H. I just found out in November. I havent took anything yet for them. Just been watching the boards for the last several months. Whats the best over the counter and online products I can buy to prevent or help with ob's. Thanks in advance. And what can my wife take if we plan on having a baby.
Has anyone came across this site before, sounds good. Good combination of products. And also gives in great detail about its service and products. Even gives you a refund if you have another ob. Read through the whole page and tell me what you guys think.
DENNI... I mean CANADA - Please stop this nonsense and post someplace else. Nobody here is interested in reading this crap.
PNj
thanks for all the advice, i have to agree i think i over did it. I decided im going to give my body time to heal and recover even if it means outbreaks for the time being. I will continue the use of DMSO, Zinc topically to help keep it at bay. I know i over did it and my body went into tremendous shock. I want this crap gone like everyone else. I have ahd it for 4 months now and it's horrible. The worse is the girl who gave it to me doesnt understand as she is asytematic and doesnt think she has it, in a way she's lucky but in another i feel bad for her. One dya she is going to wake up and when she passes it on to someone else they to will tell her.
Im a firm beleiver that a cure will be found but also beleive mms could be it for most of us. PNJ congrats on your success, and to everyone else i wish you the best
PNJ - Please feel free to delete this if you feel it's too argumentative. I just felt like someone should finally respond. And by the way, thank you for creating such a great hub.
Canada or whatever you are calling yourself, please please please stop this. I do not post, but I enjoy lurking on this hub because it provides accurate information and I enjoy reading about everyone's experience. This is pnj's hub, so if she wants to delete something, that is her right, lol. She states in the hub introduction that she does not allow negativity, insults, or misinformation on her hub (which happens to be why I like it!), so I honestly don't see how anyone behaving like you is shocked when your posts are not published. Being a long time lurker, I have yet to see her delete a post unless it was too negative or the information it contained was inaccurate. This is her right, now please leave it alone. There is no value in your posts and you are ranting like an abused teen. Pnj is right, nobody comes here for that. If you don't like this hub, then don't read it. I used to enjoy reading your posts, but now it seems like you are just trying to start fights and discredit MMS. It's just so stupid. Why don't you do that on the original hub and leave people in peace.
AZ1 - Hey there!!! I'm sorry you've been down, but that's great news about your health! I know what anxiety is like, it's no fun at all. Remember, everything changes, so keep your chin up. I'll send you a quick email. I've been away from my computer a lot, so I never got to finish what I was going to send you, lol.
804 - Hi!!! Long time no see. I've tried quite a few products, and aside from MMS, the ones that worked the best for me was Lysine (you have to take between 3000-4000 mg for it to make a real difference), Dynamiclear (you put it directly on an OB and it scabs immediately), and tea tree oil. I don't know what is best for someone who is pregnant... perhaps Dynamiclear since it's topical. You should also avoid foods high in Arginine. This and adding Lysine to your diet should curb OB's. I tried Biogetica a while back and it was quite effective actually. It just didn't cure me. I stopped using it when I realised that their active ingredient is basically Lysine. Having said that, the product does contain other great ingredients that boost the immune system, which is really what keeps herpes at bay.
FIRERAGE - Yes, there's a lot of denial when it comes to herpes. The best thing we can do is take responsibility for ourselves and keep the good flowing. Hopefully, your ex will figure things out and become more responsible. If not, the universe has a way of balancing things out.
SMITH76 - Cheers for the compliment and welcome! I'm glad you are getting something positive out of this HUB. Please don't worry about negative posts. I tend to delete them because I don't think we should have to waste our energy on that nonsense. I also don't believe anyone should have to justify taking responsibility for their health. There are a lot of people out there who's sole purpose is to discredit anything that cures people, sad but true. Many of them start out quite normal, then sooner or later they become a "basher". I can see them coming a mile away, so please don't be bothered by it and continue doing what works for you. :)
PNJ28 - Have you started taking the Molecula Silver yet or are you still waiting to restart your therapy? I've managed to make it to 14 drops now and I was just wanting to know what to expect in terms of side effects when I add the Silver. I have had a couple of OB's while on MMS, but they weren't bad and seemed to stop once I got to 10 drops. I'm glad your visit with true cures went so well. Now I'm wondering if I should see him. Will you retest? Antibodies probably don't matter since all it does is tell you you've been exposed to the virus. Maybe they will be lower now though... Anyways, thanks for replying to my email. :)
pnj,
Thanks for the info
Hey everyone,
Well I've made it to my destination safely. Between two flights and layovers, I was in transit for over 24 hours. I got only 2 hours of sleep before leaving Friday morning, and cannot sleep well on planes so I was pretty run down. Some of my friends wanted me to go out right when I went back, and stupidly I did. My flight arrived around 8pm and I stayed out that night until 5am. Not a smart move. I could feel myself getting sick, not to mention my internal clock was screwed from the 15 hour time difference. I also drank about 7-8 cups of coffee in transit, so all in all it was a breeding ground for an H outbreak. I woke up the next day feeling suprisingly ok, a bit of a headache but no cold or flu to speak of. I did notice this morning, one small blister forming on my right thigh, a usual ob spot for me....boo
But I was looking for the proper ingredients to make my MMS here, and was very doubtful at first. All the inredients are listed in a foreign language, but luckily the "C" in vitamin C is in English, so I was able to spot this on a lot of juices. I did however find a 100% organic grape juice that has no added ingredients so I will be able to use that. It costs about $5 per liter which is a bit expensive but at least I know I have something to use that won't compromise the doses. I bought a measuring spoon to make the citric acid solution, because I already knew from last year that you can't find a lime in this country.
I was thinking about doing the "6 and 6" treatment to make sure I don't get sick, and seeing how 12 drops within two hours affects me. Perhaps I will work back up to 15 and resume my treatment. I want to keep pushing on, but also need to be careful not to overdue anything because I'm getting adjusted to a completely new lifestyle. Also don't want to deal with the gas as I'm spending 7-9 hours a day in a crowded office. We'll see how it goes, I may take a short break but will resume treatment as soon as I feel comfortable because I don't want to take another two weeks to build up to 15 drops again.
Hey all! I actually did post the other day, but for some reason it disappeared! I've been having sign in issues as well, and I can't get into my blog!!! I've reported it, but to no avail so far. Apparently others are having issues too.
Glad to see everyone is doing so well. Why am I the only one still on 9 drops!? lolll. Ok, so I'm nervous to up a drop now. I just don't want any side affects and I want the "weirdness" to be fully gone before I move up. But you know what, just on 9 drops alone, it is working! I have had NO OB's, and didn't get an OB post monthly cycle. Not even a padrome! This is the 2nd month of no OB post cycle, and that's pretty amazing. The kids are all sick at the moment, and usually I get it too. They've all sneezed on me, kissed me, shared their green mucus (argh!), yet I don't have it. Hmm, wonder why? lol. I should give MMS to them too, so will have to look up the protocol for kids.
PNJ - You know, I had a feeling about Canada / Denni a little while back. I noticed a few little things said that weren't quite right. Regardless of how much they discredit MMS, you know, all of us currently on MMS therapy who have gone past 7 or 8 drops, can SEE and FEEL the results for ourselves. Hopefully our experiences will give newcomers the hope they are looking for, and people like Denni (who no doubt represent big pharma), can fade away.
Hey Techie, thanks for caring!!
GFL - How you doing hun?
Fireage - I definately think you've been doing "overkill" lol. The only thing that worked for me MMS was Lysine, however since starting my MMS journey, I have stopped taking it as I feel that MMS is plenty for now. I do take a multi, as well as Vit C, but usually 3 hours after my first MMS dose.
Stay well everyone!
PNJ, I can't comment on the hub! It's saying, your comment will be posted when approved by the author! I've tried a few times now, hmmm. lol. Help! :P
AZ1 - My apologies to all, but I needed to change the settings for posts. I was trying to be polite, but the abusive posts have continued and now I will need to approve messages before they become available. You are right, I had a feeling too, but I don't like to pre-judge. CANADA and DENNI post back to back and usually at the same times per day, which has me seriously wondering about their identities. It appears to me that these posts are coming from people who are just looking for attention. What's funny is as soon as I see the name, I don't even bother reading it and just hit delete, but I get the distinct impression that they don't get that nobody's listening.
It was told to me when I was very young by someone I looked up to that nobody hears you when you're yelling or not taking responsibility for yourself. Nothing has ever been more true. Anyway, peace has been restored! I get alerted when posts come in, so I can approve them fairly quickly. Hopefully, this will only need to be temporary. I will write more in just a bit... trying to get a bit more laundry done, lol.
I must say Im on my 3rd at 15/3x day and everything is going well. I did the 15/2x day for a week then added the 3rd dose. Im a little skeptical though because I didnt notice any problems. I didnt take it one drop at time like suggested, I just added another 15drops about 4-5 hours after my first, so does that me Im doing something wrong with the my mixture???? I use the apple juice and it has no vitamin C so I dont know what could be the problem if there is one.
PACKMAN - I'm glad you landed safely! Wow, you're a real pro for pulling an all nighter, lol. Your tolerance shouldn't drop that fast, so you should be ok to pick up where you left off. If you have any doubts, you can always start 2 - 5 drops below where you were and take it from there. As we all know, there are a few different protocols mentioned in the book, some more aggressive than others, but the key is you don't want to feel ill while taking MMS. At that level, your body is distracted, which means you're doing more harm than good. Fresh grape juice is perfect! I would use it myself, but it's extremely expensive here.
AZ1 - Ha, sorry! When I changed the settings on the posts, it looks like you accidentally got spammed, lol. I put it back up as soon as you mentioned it. MMS will definitely work for kids, you just have to give them a much smaller dose. I believe it's mentioned on the website. I had a nasty cold when I started MMS, and it knocked it out in less than 30 hours. If I may make a suggestion, why don't you bite your fear in the behind and just up your dose? When I was in your shoes, the only thing that helped me with the anxiety was to distract myself and keep on marching. As my grandfather used to say, action is the anecdote to worry... Just food for thought. :)
You know, some people have nothing better to do with their time than lurk on HUBS and blogs and spread negativity. We do the best thing by keeping this HUB on topic and ensuring the information we provide is accurate. That's what it's all about right? I remember when I first realised I had herpes, the part that was so devastating was the lack of information and hope. I'm hoping we can change that for some individuals finally!
DONTKNOWY - Are you drinking pure Apple Juice? I hate to suggest this, as you won't like it, but have you tried drinking it with water to see if it makes a difference? If so, that means you are using the wrong juice. Also, make sure the food you eat before taking MMS does not contain large quantities of the no-no ingredients (Citric Acid, Vitamin C, Absorbic Acid, Sodium Citrate - these ingredients shouldn't be in your juice either).
ALL - So I have excellent news... As you know, I had to stop using MMS when I saw TrueCures in order to give his therapy time to work. This was not a planned meeting, so I had to stop MMS quite abruptly.
Well I'm on my period, and I have had no hint of an OB. Now I know it will be hard for me to know if it was TrueCures or MMS, even when I retest (I have not yet decided on a date), but I don't believe this will matter because several individuals are using MMS and seeing TrueCures, so I believe we will be hearing more and more exciting news either way! Let's remember folks that we are here to find cures. Wouldn't it be a dream come true if we exceeded our expectations and stumbled upon 2 cures...?
I can't wait for those results to come pouring in! :)
I might have to try that but it states ingredients: water, concentrate, and apple juice. It says not a good source of vitamin A,C its white house 100% apple juice. I been using forever even when I did have a little sickness. I ordered the stips so when they get here I can test and see how strong it is. I also do make sure i dont eat the bad foods. I might eat a pancake or leftover dinner then wait the hour to drink. of after 2 hours Ill eat a banana and take. Nothing I eat or drink now and days has those ingredients of lots of it. Before I added the 3rd dose I wouldnt eat those types foods unless I knew I had 2 -3 hours before my next dose. No Im on the 3rd I really havent concumed the bad foods. So um um. But then again I took it with my blueberry pom the other day and still no problems.
Good evening to everyone, well i will admit i do beleive i over did as i got sick, i have stopped all treatment's with the exeception of lauricidin and red marine algae.OF course silver Im going to giv emy body time to heal so i can try this the right way. When i go back on MMS i will do only MMS and silver. Congratsw on all the success stories im sure it's wonderful and anticipate others to have greta stories as well.
PNJ - He he he. You have no idea how much I needed to hear that! lol. I think another reason I've been concerned about upping my dose is that I've been living on 4 hours sleep (or less), nearly every night for 2 - 3 weeks now. Don't ask why, but it won't last for long lol. My fear is that I could overload my immune system by upping doses on lack of sleep. The good news is that 8 hour sleeps are coming up next week for me, and I'll hopefully be upping my dose regularly to reach 15 drops. What's your thoughts? Would I be overdoing it by upping now on minimal sleep? So far, the MMS at only 8 and 9 drops are doing their stuff as I lack of sleep is normally a breeding ground for H, however I haven't had any padromes or OB's for nearly 2 weeks now. Amazing!
Also, I'm so excited for you that you are clear from H so far. You are my inspiration and driving force for keeping up with my therapy. Based on what MMS is doing for me, just on 8 drops alone, I KNOW that it's our cure.. I know it in my bones. I just feel that the protocol will be different for each individual, and experimentation with dosage (at a responsible level), will be the answer.
DONTKNOWY - Personally, I now believe it is your juice, as you should be using fresh juice with nothing added. Some concentrates can contain other ingredients depending on the brand. Unless you are in perfect health and do not have herpes, I can't imagine why you'd have no effects at all, unless you did your therapy extremely slooow, lol. If I am wrong about your juice, then you have me stumped.
FIRERAGE - Well I certainly hope you feel better soon. I'd love to read you feeling better not worse, and hopefully, soon you will be well on your way to getting cured!
AZ1 - Ok, in that case, I think you need to start getting more sleep. As you know, during sleep is when our bodies "reboot", which is why mornings or right after you wake (and pee), is the best time to weigh yourself, etc. If you are not getting enough sleep, then your body is not being fully "rebooted", so in a way it keeps you running on way less fuel. Personally, I think you can handle the higher doses at this point, but the problem is that you will probably be more irritated by even the minor side effects due to the lack of sleep, so I agree that you should wait until next week. I don't want you freaking out over there, lol!
I'm delighted you're doing so well though! Even smaller doses provide a huge benefit, so there's no hurry to get to any particular mark. I've read of some individuals upping their drops weekly instead of daily. Importantly, it appears that those who follow a strict and slow protocol tend to receive the most benefit without any major issues. It's the ones that break from that or get too aggressive that wind up seeing very little benefit and having the most problems. So don't get down on yourself for being a slow poke, lol. Steady as she goes...
hi everyone- been lurking just been too lazy to post (DKY the blog will be updated today)
AZ1 so glad to hear from you- so next week is when you will move on up to the other doses? thats exciting. Im sure the 8-9 doses KICKED the s&^% outta h anyhow. so good luck.
firerage how are you feeling now?
melissa- are you stilllurking? did you start back up on mms? are you feeling better?
packman so glad to know you made it. I was worried there was gonna be a "shake down and your mms would get taken- :) just teasing. did you find some juice?
well update on me- I decided I was going to punk out um i mean wait a few more days befroe i try a 3rd dose a day. In all seriousness my mind is not ready for that and I dont want to force it. I have been doing well no OB since starting over 8weeks ago. I just got of my cycle too- and not a FLINCH. No symptoms what so ever. no itches- no tinges- no bumps-no sores- no aches NOTHING. This is the second month forme passing a cycle check so I am excited. I will more than likely try for my 3rd dose over the weekend when I haveroom to get sick etc if it comes to that.
804 I have some info on the link- however its at home so I will email it you tonight. i got an email from them I can forward to you. I was very close to doing them after I learned about resolve- but decided totry mms instead.
hope I am not missing anyone if I am sorry.
TECH - I know what you mean. I was quite nervous before trying a 3rd dose. You remember what happened though, I got cocky and jumped right into 15 drops 3x daily, and by day 2, I had faucet bottom and could barely type on chat, LOL!
If all goes well in regards to my TC test results, I'll begin a maintenance dose of MMS. It may not be necessary, but as they say, we'll see how the ball rolls.
PACKMAN - Are you still jet lagged? LOL
GODFORLIFE - Where you been hon? How's the therapy going?
LANTZ - Did your surgery go well??
well everyone I've decided today im going to jump in the water. I took 15drops this am at 430am. (i ate) and will take another dose around lunch time 1pm- then my third dose tonight at 9ish. and see how that goes. I will just start with 1 drop as I dont wanna be falling out at work. I'll update you all.
PNJ- hey I tested the apple juice with the strips and it confirmed that its not the juice. If it turned yellow that meant there was no Chlorine D in it and the darker the purple the higher the amount which is 10 so mine was a meduim purp which represents 3 and I think they JM states it needs to be a 1 so 3 works for me.
Plus I did the 15/3x yesterday with the water and still had no problems except that lil burning sensation in the throat...lol
The VA trip is in the making for March 29th and 30th. If anyone is still interested pls contact me at sunshinetaco29@yahoo.com for more details. The number of people seen is limited its on a first come first serve basis so pls let me know ASAP.
PNJ,
When are you testing? Or have you already? Thanks.
DONTKNOWY - You've got me stumped. I'm not sure what the difference is between what you've been doing and everyone else, but hopefully you will have the results you seek with TC. I still feel that something could be amiss with your MMS protocol, but there is no way for me to know unless I was there watching you do it, lol.
KATHLEEN - No, I have not yet tested. It's still a bit too soon for me to test, but having said that, I will be keeping my test date private this time around. The main reason for this is I have a few important things at home I'm trying to tend to, and I don't want to add anymore things to my plate at the moment. I'm sure you understand that coming home and having 20 emails, all asking, "have you tested and do you have your results yet?" can get a bit stressful, lol. Once I'm ready to test, I will share the results when they're available, but for now, that information is for me and the people closest to me.
hey guys- I have come today in shame to post. I tried my 3rd dose yesterday but I was not the brightest crayon in the box when I mixed it. I was at work and didnt have a glass and the thought of using a coworkers coffee mug (UGH) so I did the unthinkable. yes I used one of them styrofoam cups. by the time I waitied my three minutes the bottom of the cup had turned yellow so I am POSITIVE some of my lemon juice got absored in the cup. I was too afraid to do a third dose as I had no idea what to expect with the second dose so I just went to bed. Then this morning (yes it continues) I had cereal- today I had a different kind I had peanut butter crunch but I didnt eat a lot of it because it was kind of sweet and I paid for it later. I just got slight cramps nothing too bad but enough to let me know I needed more food. I did have two pieces of toast but it was AFTER the fact. Im due for my second dose around 330 or 400. Depends on how I feel I might just stick with 2x a day insteady of being BRAVE.
PnJ- Ok check this I checked my veggies and rice I eat for dinner and they each have 10% vitamin C do you think that 20% could effect my drink an hour or two after I eat? If so I been mucking up my dose since day one since I alway make some kind of zaterrans/lipton rice w/ birds eye steamed veggies then make my drink an hour or 2 afterwards....lol
Hey everyone, just checking in quickly. I am still pretty jetlagged. Played a reunion show with my band last night and got home at 5am, woke up naturally at 8am. So my body is still doing weird things trying to adjust. I didn't want to try and start MMS again during my first week of work as the results could have been less than desireable. I found some organic grape juice which has no added ingredients I can use for the mixer. Also found lime juice to my surprise! But my plan is to mix up the citric acid solution and begin again tomorrow morning (Sunday). I think I will start back at 10 drops and work back up to 15 again. Don't want to rush it since I feel some sort of cold coming on and am not sure of my tolerance level after missing a whole week of doses.
TECH - Your post gave me a good chuckle. Believe me, I know what you're going through. If it makes you feel any better, when I first tried to start a 3x protocol, I got REALLY brave and did 15/15/15... and you know where that got me, LOL! So this should give you a bit of peace of mind because even at 15/3x I survived, lol. I think you will be just fine with the one drop, just don't get crazy like I did, hahaha.
DONTKNOWY - You know something... I reckon you're right and we found the missing link, lol! How funny is that. So why don't you try changing your meals and see if you notice a difference.
PACKMAN - I'm glad to hear you're still standing. You should stick with Citric Acid, as it will make for a more consistent and potent solution. If you're feeling a cold coming on, now might be the time to actually get started on MMS again. It will knock the cold out and guard against any H activity, which may actually be behind the cold symptoms you're experiencing. My OB's were generally always accompanied by cold/flu like symptoms.
so what if I try taking it 3 hours after I eat dinner instead of an hour or 2? I dont think I can change up my meals..Thats just my dinner I got 2 eat a veggie and a starch. In the morning Ill eat oatmeal or a pancake( shouldnt effect it), then my dinner (maybe), then my last dose be on the late night and I dont eat nothing (shouldnt effect it)
Well i have not posted for a long while. I had ta stop mms cuz i thought i was gonna have surgery sooner, but i am not. so i will be startin back my mms probably next monday. i hope all is well with every1. if anyone would like ta contact me you can reach me at lantz937@gmail.com .
PNJ- yeah the MMS is definitely helping me fight off whatever is lurking in my system right now. I live in a big city and the air pollution is really bad, especially now because this yellow dust stuff comes over from trade winds in China. I had been walking outside at night alot and I think that's why I have the sore throat. But after my morning dose yesterday I took a short nap and felt a lot better in the afternoon. The sore throat subsided but was back when I woke up. I think maybe the air in my apt. is really dry too.
Anyways I don' t really like the taste of MMS with grape juice (I had been drinking it with apple), and to my luck I found a gallon of 100% apple juice NOT from concentrate at a world food market. It was like $12 for the gallon but should last me a whole 2 weeks at 15 drops. The writing is in English so I know its good. On the nutritional info it says Vitamin C 2%, but I know this is just natural and not added because on the back it says "absolutely no concentrates or water, no preservatives or sweeteners and no additives of any kind." So now that I'm able to use the citric acid solution and use compatible juice for mixing, I'm very happy to know my doses aren't being compromised at all.
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DONTKNOWY - My apologies for being a bit lazy. I've been taking care of a few things at home, and seem to get called away everytime I want to post, lol. How did your new meals affect your dosages? I'm paying close attention to you, as this is important stuff. I will be going back on a maintanence dose of MMS once I am certain that my therapy with TrueCures is complete. It is too soon to tell whether or not it has worked, so I have no idea if I will need to do a complete round of MMS or not.
LANTZ - I am SO happy to see you're doing ok! How are you feeling? I'm a bit behind on my emails, but I will shoot you an email in the next day or so.
PACKMAN - Great news that you're having no trouble getting back on track. What is this yellow dust you speak of...?? That sounds horrible. If I were there I might have to walk around with a face mask, lol.
On 15th drop noticed outbreak. I am curious if anyone else has expierienced this as well? Is it common to outbreak while on the MMS protocol?
Hello everyone!
sorry I've been MIA for a few weeks... the last 2 days I've spent trying to catch up on everyone's postings! ... goshhh its a lot of reading LOL
Anyways I am on 16 drops 2X/ day... how ever I am going to go for 15 X3/day starting tomorrow.... although I dont think I'll jump to 15 maybe 10 during the mid day... I don't wanna get sick.
PNJ28: I was curious if I should start a more aggressive treatment now rather than later? I have had no signs or any virus activity in 2 months, although I do not wanna jinx myself into thinking the virus is dead just yet. I'm wondering what you would do in my sitaution?
P.s Congrats to everyone who is doing well!! :D my results are looking positive so I hope this keeps us all in good attitudes in becoming cured
Hey everyone! sorry I've been MIA for the past few weeks :( I've spent the last 2 days trying to catch up on all the postings! ... and jeeeez its a lot of reading LOLanyways I'm on 16 drops 2X/day but I'm looking to start 15/10/15 tomorrow then up to 15/15/15. Pnj28: I'm curious if I should start a more aggressive treatment? I've had no signs of virus activity in in 5 1/2 weeks. I don't want to jinx myself into thinking the virus is dead just yet. what would you do if you were in my position? keep going until the bottle is done or try going with Molecula Silver? or DSMO (if that's correct :S) or something else?
Jetsetter82: No it is not uncommon to have an OB during the treatment, I myself had one on my 3rd day in, it was very small like a pinsize. Even PNJ28 had the same occurance....
OOPSSS sorry for the double posting! LOL didn't know the settings got changed cause of some YO-YO posting nonesense :S
good day to everyone. Sorry its been awhile since ive posted. Well to update everyone on whats going on, As many of you know i expeirenced problems health wise and can not say whether or not it was related to mms and doubt it was. Went back to the docters today and he ordered a complete panel test, and some other's. I have an enlarged spleen and unknown other issue's. So hopefully the test will come back with the results and its a simple fix. Have to admit im a bit nervous. I'll keep everyone informed. I hope everyone here is doing well and outbreak free
Well, I have now experienced the dark side of MMS. Yesterday I moved up to 14 drops, and paid for it ALL DAY LONG. I was nauscous, and had the D faucet turning off and on all day. It wasn't just one and done. Worst part, I had to teach 7 classes yesterday, 5 of which were consecutive. So basically I was miserable and running to the bathroom between every class. This is not something I want to experience again. I was considering moving back down to 12, maybe even 10 drops. But all things considered, I think I have to suspend treatment temporarily. I've realized I'm still getting adjusted here, and I don't work the same schedule every day, which is making it really hard to plan the doses 12 hours apart. I already know of some days ahead where the events will prevent me from taking a dose, and I don't want to do this thing half assed. I'm looking for a new job (there are tons of English teacher jobs here), and if I get a better with a better schedule I will resume the MMS treatment when I know my body can handle it. Sorry if this dissapoints some people, but I will continue to lurk and occasionally post, and will still be active in researching methods for a cure. I'll still be around, but for the moment I just want to thank everyone for the support they've given up to this point.
good evening to everyone, well results are in, urine, CBC w/diff, and full panel were negative. Everything was within normal range. So where as i do not have an idea of why my spleen is enlarged but counts and everything else indicate healthy. Im still having weird issue's but on the bright side (knock on wood) i havnt had any extreme outbreaks since my one non stop one Maybe my body beat this mother or put it in it's place for now. I have been continuing use of Medavir and have to admit it seems to have done the trick. Where as it's nto a cure it does physically kill the virus and helps bring the numbers down. I figured if i can get them down enough i may be able to zap this thing when i do mms again
tech i beat you ta da e-mail.....ha ha.
new ew- if you read dis. i am sorry i logged out of chat my pc was freezin up. i came back but you was gone.
Hi everyone- its been a few days for me as well. i think this was the twilight zone for mms users. i am laneling this week mms hell week as seems like I am not the only person who had an issue this week. I blogged my experience so I wont go into details here but I will be brief this has been my worst mms week so far. I made some bone headed mistakes such as pouring in too many drops and then taking it- but seems like every day something has come up and I have only been able to take my mms once a day. But even with me having it only once a day- I am still symptom free. I need to get back motivated again so I can quit skipping my doses.
PNJ- are you ok? have you decided about the silver? I was thinking about either taking BHT or the silver so please give me your feed back.
Minnie- so glad to see you are back and still holding on.
jersetter- welcome can you give a little more info on your protocol? how long did it take you to get to 15drops? FOr the most part lot of peoples actual OB stop before getting to 15drops- there may be some people I am missing and if so I will hope they respond.
AZ1 check in mami- I need to know how you are doing.
dky- what did you end up doing about your food?
fire so glad to hear all is well with you. i know you are relieved.
melissa- are you still on MMS?
am I missing anyone???
Techie,
I worked my way up to 15 drops aprox after 2.5 weeks or so... The outbreak happend right before 15 drops. After 2 days on 15 drops and vomiting I decided to take a 3 day break.
I am curious if this mms is working and when I start back up should I resume at 6-7 drops? I could not handle doing 15 drops because of the way it made me feel. I am curious why I had a OB at 13-14 drops? Could MMS have brought it out of hiding?
thanks techie, All is well for the most part having some pains in both back sides rear (kidneys id assume its been a month since ive stopped mms) So it may or may not be related. I know kidneys dont repair themselves but all test indicate functions as normal. So it may take some time to get them out of this mess i put them in. I wonder if i overloaded them with waste so im drinking lots of water and cranberry going back to doctors on Monday. All and all still outbreak free (kncok on wood) Hope it remains that way
Hey Everybody! I know it's been a while for me but I've been lurking here and there. I hope everyone is doing fine.
Hey Techie! I stopped MMS after I did about 14 days at 15 drops. I've been off for nearly a month and I'm doing fine. I'm just waiting to see TC! I'll decide what is next after the meeting.
take care
Does anyone know if drining MMS with pear juice is ok?I ran out of my pom juice, and have antioxidant pear juice with no vitamines... as it states on the labels.... its very sweet though and I've taken MMS with it twice already... no problems but don't want to compromise my dose :S
Hey everyone, hey techie. How's things? I've had loads of personal stuff going on in my life, so haven't been blogging or hubbing. All is good otherwise. I am struggling big time with adult acne at the moment and the only thing I can think of is, MMS is bringing it out. I'm 40 and shouldn't have acne as I've always had pretty good skin, however I've got these lumps the size of volcanoes on both sides of my face, near the hairline and out towards the cheeks and jawline. They generally take about 10 days to clear, but once cleared, there's about 5 more to take their places. Did you get acne with mms tech? If so, how long did it last and at what point did it stop? It's depressing me even more!!!
Hi everyone. My apologies for being away. As many of you know, I've had many distractions at home, but I will try to be a bit better about checking in and answering my emails!
JETSETTER82 - Per the instructions of MMS, if you are vomiting that means you should back down a drop or two. If you stop, herpes will replicate and you'll wind up setting yourself back. There is no rush to get to 15 drops. Work is being done long before that stage. Outbreaks are normal as MMS is not a suppressant. Herpes will continue to act like herpes until your viral numbers begin to decrease.
MINNIE - The way it was explained to me before was that we should start with 1 extra drop midday, and work our way to 15, which will give you your 15/3x. I don't recommend anyone get too agressive too fast, as MMS cannot do much good if you are vomiting it up or giving yourself other ailments to contend with. If you've been doing fine at the level you're at, try incorporating another drop in the afternoon and see how that works for you. Herpes can reside anywhere in the body, so keep in mind that even though there are no blisters, it could still be in there. I don't know about drinking MMS with pear juice. It appears to be quite low in Vitamin C, so it doesn't sound bad.
FIRERAGE - I am VERY glad for you that this was not serious. I hope you're feeling better now! I definitely agree that we have to watch how much toxins we push out as we can bombard the body that way. This is why slow is best. Hopefully, your body will have time to reboot and you'll have nothing to worry about. :)
PACKMAN - I agree with you in that no one should do MMS half-arsed. It can't work for you that way. So when you are able to work it into your schedule and stick with it, I'd love to hear about your progress. :) Having said all that, it sounds to me like your dose was just a bit too high and you needed to back down a wee bit.
LANTZ - I'm glad to see you back! I need to add you to my messenger. :)'
TECH - I'm taking the Molecula Silver and really love it actually. No bad side effects except acne (yes, I'm sure it's just acne and not mr. herpster, lol). Other than that, I feel great.
AZ1 - Try drinking a lot more water. When toxins are being pushed out, a lot of it is expelled through the skin. For that reason, you may find you need to drink more water.
hey az1 yes I got some sort of acne. it was just a bad breakout. I had pimples and bumps everywhere on my face. I would have to go back to my blog to see which steps I was at but i do recall having that issue. what level are you at? did you get to 10drops?
Tech- I must admit I been slacking too on the mms. I've only been getting 1 dose in if that since last tuesday or wednesday. So um um. I said I was going to get back on track this week but I see TC next weekend so I think I just might call it quits till I see what he does. I know he said he didnt want us on anything when we came to see him. I was going to try the no carb thing this week too so when I see him Ill be halfway done with that. Its going to be kind of hard to give up my rice. I guess ill just cook it for the fam and only eat the meat and veggie. I bought some lettuce and tuna so I can try the lettuce wraps. I also got some lunch meat I was going to try that wraped in lettuce instead of bread...We will see how this goes..lol I have my 100 calorie snacks I guess I cant eat those either, huh man?
THis hub as been really encouraging as i have been lurking for a week now. I am not sure if i have the big H and to be honest i do not know if i am prepared to know. (please dont judge me) just recently i noticed a sore on my inner thigh close to my vagina and wasnt sure what it was, but i dont think this was the first time it was there, and before then i got what felt like a sore over my buttox that just itched really bad and then when i would scratch hard or alot it began to burn and turn into a sore.
sorry to go into so much info.. but i just decided to give mms a try. i have been to the doctors twice in 08 and neither diagnosed me with anything. i really am glad for this hub as holding this in is eating me alive seems like.
hey newbie- Ive seen your posts on the other hubs. well this is a true support system here. we encourage you to test. you can test via tstd for 98bucks and dont have to give your personal info etc. The majority of us were not diagnosed by doctors and it was anoymous testing that told us. I too was "cleared" by a doctor and in turn still had the virus as well as a few other people here. I dont want to scare you or panic you- just to prepare you and encourage you to get a second opinion.
have you started the MMS yet? have you ordered it? do you have questions about how to take it?
Hello Family,
So I am nearing my bottle, I have 2 more weeks left of my MMS therapy at 15/15/15 .... I'm wonering if I should keep going with Molecula silver after I am done or DSMO? Or if I should stop completely get tested in 90 days and decide from there? my results from MMS therapy have been positive so far, however I do not want to feel like I am cured just yet. I have not been on MMS since January 18th. I am excited to finish the treatment because it is such a drag... however I want to get rid of thise virus once and for all. I do not want to test right now becuse I know my results would still show I have HSV2 because my antibodies are still on defense mode. Any opinions?
thanks Techie for the advice, i will def do that. I have gone ahead and ordered the mms, just hearing about the side effects scare me as i dont know how it would effect my work and school schedule.
I am a little scared as well to the fact that i dont fully know or understand the long term effects. I know that it turns into a salt in your system and this is accurate according to my little chemistry history regarding an acid being applied to a base creating a salt. has anyone tested neg for the virus after this therapy? has anyone died.. these are just questions i have. I dont think having antibodies are a bad thing or is even proof of viral presence simply because they are created by memory b cells of the immune system to stay on guard to kill the virus if it ever decides to try and come back..
im sitting in a microbiology class right now and my teacher who also works in immunology just basically said that the antibody presence just means that they are there to protect you from viral or antigen infection. it doesnt mean the virus is still there. somebody asked about getting vaccinations and not developing antibodies in respons to the vaccination and she said because they dont have antibodies, they are at risk for getting sick. i dont know if this helps any but i wouldnt worry about antibody presence... is there anyway to test for exact viral presence?
hey newbie thanks for sharing we have had that same conversation for weeks now. they key is waiting for the antibodies levels to drop off which many debate over how long this will take. There is a test its called the PCR test and what it does is it looks for viral DNA. However its not the standard test and for many its very difficult to get. You have to get it done via a doctors office and for many people here- they want to test without giving up their personal info. There are a few sites who will let you get it anoymous however you do have to pay for it. This is the test I will get after my trip to NY. Your comments about vaccinations have also been discussed. I could be wrong but I was under the impression when you get a vaccine- your body will ALWAYS make the antibodies for the vaccine. So getting vaccinations in general wasnt a popular choice. You are right to be cautious with MMS. Dont believe anyone who tells you its a "simple" therapy. Its an adult therapy and you have to be responsible in taking it. Slower is better is the way most of us have learned to go. I am no expert Ive goofed up my fair share and have paid for it dearly in the restroom but I have learned from my mistakes. Many people have blogged their daily experiences with MMS so you can follow those and read back in the past what other people went though to help you avoid the same issues.
im sorry for some reason my response was submitted before i could finish typing it. However, THANK you Techie again for so much good advice. I was thinking about taking it ALL the way slow like 2 or 3 days before increasing the dosage. For the most part people do form antibodies, but there are some cases where people dont respond to vaccinations and their bodies dont form antibodies and that is a problem.
from what i know about antibodies.. it would be a good thing to have a nice amount because they are protectors created by the immune system. for instance when people get the vaccination for tetanus, it must be updated in like 8-10 years otherwise the antibody count will drop leaving the body vunerable to bacterial infection. but i am excited to get the mms as it should be arriving today.
i wonder how Godforlife is. again its so good to be able to discuss these type of things with people. thank you pnj for creating this hub
hey pnj
How are things going. I hope all is well with you.
Are going to retest anytime soon. I think your numbers will be lower this time areound.
good evening everyone, well aft all we have been through i decided im done messing around with the uknown. I paln on getting tested next week. I would like to remind everyone my diagnosis was visual with no sores present and i have been told everything from you have herpes, you have yeast infections to your paranoid. With everything said i hope to test via TSTD.ORG when i do test i will let you all know the result's after i have had a chance to absorb everything.
I hope that the rest of you are having good results.
PNJ how is life at post mms any outbreaks?
Hi everyone. Just checking in to say hey... I'm trying to be a lot better about this, but the time just seems to slip away!
DONTKNOWY - The no carb thing is for particular disorders. TC may not need for you to do that diet depending on what your issues are, so you should check with him first.
NEWBIE - Hey there, good to see you pop in again. I know TECH already responded to you, but I thought I'd go ahead and reply anyhow. Did you ever get retested? Blood test is a bit more accurate for some reason given that you need a certain amount of virus present in order for a spot test to be accurate, and viral cells die fairly quickly once they hit the air. There honestly isn't a lot of information floating around about herpes or antibodies, etc. We are all feeling our way around, but the jest of it is that, once cured, antibody numbers should decrease. In what timeframe, is anybody's guess and will be different for each individual (as is the case with strains of virus). Viral testing exists but is not very accessible to your average patient, and it is very expensive.
MINNIE - Molecula Silver and MMS should be taken according to their own protocols, so you should follow the instructions for both individually. My Molecula Silver directions say that you should take it until the bottle is empty, however, I don't know if we have the same sized bottle (16 oz).
804 - Hey there. Things are doing great, just a bit busy with a few things at home. Apologies for being so behind.
FIRERAGE - I hope all goes well with your test! Please let us know how it goes. No outbreaks for me since early December. I was told by TrueCures that I should refrain from resuming my MMS therapy (and just recently Molecula Silver) until I've given his therapy time to work, so out of respect for that, I am currently not taking anything.
My results are in, pin# 914981-7149856
NEGATIVE ON BOTH TYPE 1 and TYPE 2
if everyone remembers i never was tested just told by visual exam. Now i know it's not H but Def having something going on as it's totally weird. So medically have to figure this out. I did do MMS for a total of 1 1/2 roughly. So i truely can not tell if it is related
FIRERAGE - That's great news that you're negative! I hope you figure out what's going on. You mentioned problems before taking MMS, so I don't see a connection, but please keep us posted on what's going on with you!
Thanks PNJ
Dont think its mms related. But i do have a question is it possible to get a false negative. Also how lng before your body build up antibodies. IF i did get it, it would of been last week in sept.
FIRERAGE - PCR Viral tests can give false negatives (but not false positives), but if you were tested for antibodies, I do not believe that can be a false negative, although there is much debate over what the presence of various levels of antibodies mean. If I recall correctly, it takes a few months for antibodies to become present... it's entirely possible that it may take longer for some individuals. You could always wait and retest.
Just to throw this out there, have you tried testing for HPV? HPV can mimick other viruses as warts can take on many forms (raised - mole - cauliflower, flat, invisible or red discolouration, blister-like). For some, red itching or burning skin can be present, while for others, a raised wart is present with no sensation at all.
Fireage- Basically you are saying you never actually tested positive for H, a doctor just looked at it and assumed it was H? So you may have of never had H to begin with? I know when my doctor looked at it they said it could be that or just a hair bump. They took a sample to tell me it was H. That was never done with you?
PNJ
thanks vfor the advice well it was an antibody test it's been approx 6 months since i was exposed if i did get exposed. I would assume by now my body would have built up antibody level's by now that were detectable. I plan to test one more time in the next few wekks to rule out the possibilities of a false negative.
Never thought about HPV but i was just reading that 90 percent of people can c;ear this naturally after about 2 years. And unfortunately there are no test for HPV that can really detect it for men other than visual.
any ideas
PNJ- still no test date for you?
PNJ - you still have not come up with a test date?
DONTKNOWY - I've answered that question more than once already. When I'm ready to share that information, I will. I think because we all share such personal information we sometimes forget that all of this is completely voluntary. I have other things on my mind right now and do not wish to share that information with anyone at this time. That is my right so I ask that everyone show respect for anyone who asks for a bit of privacy.
FIRERAGE - You are right, it's very difficult to diagnose in men, but there are still ways... perhaps you could speak to your doctor about it. The test for women consists of testing samples of cells... My hunch is it would be the same for men (and equally enjoyable, lol).
Hey PNj
I just scanned the other hub. I hear talk of true cures. have you heard of him. I have'nt been over since you started yours. Has anyone else tested negative over there with Resovle.
804 - Per my previous posts, I as well as a few others here have or will be meeting with TrueCures. Testing negative is a relatively new fad created by the Resolve team, so I doubt anyone's given it much thought until now. Having said that, as you well know, many have reported being cured using MMS. I have my doubts about certain individuals who claim to have been cured using Resolve (which contains bleach and probably Arginine - scary), but because Resolve uses the same active ingredient as MMS only in much smaller quantities, I'm inclined to believe it must be somewhat effective.
PNJ
I would hope that the test for men is simple, btu then again cant be more painful than the test for chlymidia, thats a fun one ;-p. Correct me if im wrong but i understand it that the body should and almost always will have testable levels of antibodie's at 3 month's for H. Also why is it when they test they say <.90
Pnj- seems to me you getting a lil snazzy with it. I just asked, all you had to say was no not yet. Did noone say it wasnt your right to do whatever..I know this your hub and all but that doesnt mean get rude with it then when someone comments back you probably going to delete it. You dont have to worry about me asking u anything else.....sorry for being such a bother
DONTKNOWY - As you have seen, I have answered this question time and time again. If you do not like my answer, that is your issue, however, I was polite enough to answer and that's all I can say to you about that. I'm not asking you to like my personality, so you are more than welcomed to post elsewhere if you do not like this HUB. I couldn't care less about whether or not you like my remarks, and would never delete someone for something so retarded. When I delete a post, it is because it is disrespectful, contains misinformation, or contains profanity. I've honestly had enough of such nonsense. No one can heal dealing with such stupid stress. I consider this matter closed, and I certainly hope you are mature enough to do the same.
well well well this may be old news but Im gonna post it anyhow. has anyone checked out Resolves site lately? seems like with the two recent posts they have gotten more confident and have a BBB accedited business logo/widget on their page. their score is A- with no complaints. WOW is all I can say.
Rash on side of leg on thigh. I have been spraying MMS solution on leg to help this rash go away it has been present for over 3 months now.
on 9 drops a day maintaining this rate so I can ramp up to 15 drops. Back still aches...
Does anyone know if the rash on leg can be cured or will MMS solution sprayed onto area eventually promote healing of rash?
after 1 week of consistant 15 drops I should be able to discontinue use ? Can anyone clarify this for me?
Hello Hub Family,
I finished my MMS treatmen on March 19th, so far I am doing great I noticed the other day a small bump on my bum close to my anus, although it may be an ingrown. Last week I had a huge bump then decided to pick it turned out to be an ingrown, I am hoping its just a minor bump an no HSV .... I will continue to keep you all posted about my healing process post-MMS. I also plan to test end of June.
Wish me luck!!
MINNIE - That's fantastic news! I will keep an eye out for your update.
JETSETTER82 - Yes, MMS can be used topically. Rather than take up space on the HUB, I will direct you to the top of this HUB where you can find the directions for use and helpful links to MMS protocols.
FIRERAGE - Apologies for missing your last post! I'm not quite sure I understand what you're asking. If your question is, should everyone test positive for antibodies, the answer is no. Not everyone has been infected with HSV, even though the virus is quite common. >.90 would technically mean that you are negative. There is still much to figure out in regards to how antibodies work, but for me, my main goal is to ensure my numbers go down. Even if this process is gradual, it will still be an indicator that the virus has left my system. As TrueCures and even Jim Humble stated, timing is everything. In the meantime, cut out all stress whenever possible.
PNJ,
How can I meet up with True Cures too or just learn more info on him,
I just want to say thanks PNJ for all of your help. Working this hub is like another job, and your'e the CEO. AIG can use you management skills. LoL
804 - You are too funny, lol. Go to www.truecures.com - he's got a HUB also in HUB Pages, and you can find the link on his main site.
ALL - So I've received word from TrueCures that I should be cured by now, so I'm ok to start MMS again if I wish. I have begun a maintenance dose for now to give myself a chance to see how my therapy with TrueCures pans out, more on that later... For now, I have a trip to France planned, which will be a nice getaway for me, and I will think about a good time to retest when I return. I have no date in mind, nor am I remotely interested in even thinking about one right now lol. At this point, I just want to enjoy feeling good and relax. I've heard through the grapevine that TC mentioned waiting about 2 months to retest, so that's something I will take into consideration when I return.
I hope everyone else is doing well, especially you AZ1. Big kisses from me to all, and if I've missed any emails, my apologies for being so distracted and unattentive. I will be checking my emails later today :).
PNJ
Thanks for the reply, was actually asking why test results are <90 wouldnt n e antibodies be a sign that the virus has beent there.
Also here is an update. I retook HSV test wed and results are expected later today, hoping to re-enforce the negative results. I'm also trying to figure out if 6 months is effecient to build antibodies high enough to test.
So the problem ive been having has occured again. It starts off with burning, then i noticed somhing else it hurts so bad because it dry out horribly. Almost to the point i can break blood vessels. So here is my last of three questions. Would yeast have a dying out effect that could cause this
FIRERAGE - We know relatively little about these antibodies tests, so your guess is as good as mine. Personally, I believe that it is completely possible to be positive for antibodies, yet negative for the virus because that is how our bodies work. Antibodies is what kills the virus, so if you ask me, the tests are somewhat useless if you are intending to prove being cured... having said that, antibodies lowering in number over time would seem to suggest to me a lack of viral presence. Many individuals get exposed to herpes, yet never get infected. This is another sign to me that the only thing the test really proves is that you were exposed. How our bodies react to the presence of virus will vary and depend on our individual health.
I'm no expert, but my guess is that you either suffer from HPV or a yeast infection. Keep in mind that HPV can cause yeast infections, so it could definitely be both. Most men who suffer from HPV or yeast infections have no idea as there is very little education available on how these infections affect men. Regardless, I would find a way to be tested if I were in your shoes. It could ease your mind quite a bit. If you had herpes, it would seem strange to me that it is not showing up on a test as those tests are made specifically to show infection. You are in my prayers and I certainly hope your test is negative again :).
PNJ
Thanks, i agree it could either be yeast or HPV, the weird thing is it has began doing the same in my eye's so im leaning towards yeast, however as you mentioned what is the underlining cause. My HSV test was once again negative. I appreciate all the support. It took a very special individual to convince me to get tested and end the guessing once and for all, and this hub as well. So thanks to all of you and GIGGLES. I do plan on staying around this hub as i have learned alot about H and will continue to help other seak the answers and updates on any potential cures.
WOW DA LAST POST WUZ 8 DAYS AGO. I MEAN WTF DO I SAY TA DAT ? ALL DA REGULARS CAN HOLLA AT ME @ LANTZ937@GMAIL.COM. PNJ I BETTER BE HEARIN FROM U HONEE.
Woah, not much activity here as of late. I've been MIA for at least a month. Just checking in to let y'all know I'm alive and well, and to see if anyone has gotten any positive, definative results from MMS (and/or TC).
Just for reference, I worked up to 15 drops no problem, maintained for a few days, then moved to Asia, at which point I stopped MMS for about a week. I started back up at 10 drops 2x, and had a horrible day when I got to 14, nausious and butt sick all day at work. I had to stop based on a number of factors.
Well, I just thought I'd share, that I noticed I haven't had any outbreaks since then. I usually get outbreaks on my thighs fairly frequently, and sometimes the butt too. I should also note that I've been EXTREMELY stressed from my job the past couple weeks, but no outbreaks.
I'm still toying with the idea of starting back up, just have to make sure I can stick to the schedule and not half ass it. It was a lot easier when I was jobless in the states ;) Plus I've got the whole bottle of molecula silver that I don't want to waste. We'll see. I'll check in periodically, but it seems many people have gone their seperate ways. Nonetheless, good luck to everyone on their journey to a cure. It can happen!
PACKMAN - I'm glad to hear you've remained OB free and are doing well :). We've still got plenty of newbies on this HUB, but given all the drama certain folks have attempted to bring here, most communicate via email. At this stage, this HUB serves predominantly for informational purposes. I leave for Paris this Sunday, so I thought it best to stay at the maintenance dose of MMS until I return. The Molecula Silver was great, and I really notice a difference when applying it topically also to certain skin irritations. I'd like to order more soon.
LANTZ - Hey baby! I will definitely email you soon :). I've been running around like a headless chicken trying to get ready for my trip. I've spoken to a few regulars here via email, and as far as I can tell, we're all trotting along... Life happens sometimes, so it looks like a lot of us don't have the time anymore to post all day, LOL!
I hope the rest of you are doing great and OB free!
Hello Fellow Hubbers, I see I haven't missed much which is great... I have some bad news :( after completing MMS I was doing great for 3 weeks and now I have a small OB ... very very tiny ... I'm praying to God its just the last bit of the virus leaving my body... but who knows, maybe I didn't cure :*( I was very excited about my way to being H free. Pnj28: what do you reccommend I do? should I go back to MMS treatment? or maybe even order the Moleca Silver? or wait to test and see if I will be negative and this is the last of the virus?
Imnew here, trying to view comments - doesn't seem to be working on my computer. Thinking of buying MMS - any adivce?
MINNIE - Well when I wrote to Jim Humble for the first time a few months ago, he said that the protocol for herpes could be up to 3 months and that it's a very difficult virus to eradicate. So going with that, it sounds like most of us would need to take it longer. I am only doing a maintenance does at the moment because I will be traveling and don't want possible side effects interferring with my trip. When I return, I plan to think about a date to retest given my meeting with TrueCures, and possibly start a longer protocol with MMS if necessary.
DIRECTIONLESS - Hello there. Yes, there are a lot of comments to sift through, so it could slow your computer down. I have a hard time reading HUBS on my mobile, lol. If you are thinking of trying MMS for the first time, you should know that it will not work if your attempt is half-hearted or foolish. You should take it according to protocol and very responsibly. The protocol to work your way up to is 15 drops 3x daily, but you would work your way up to that very slowly by first working your way to 15 daily 2x daily, then adding a third dose beginning at one drop. Per Jim Humble, it could take up to 3 months to completely eradicate herpes. Please feel free to visit the links I have posted here. I've tried to include as much information as possible.
finally we have activity here.
so my last OB still has been Jan 12th 2009. 3 months and Im still holding strong. I quit MMS on Monday March 23rd and saw true cures later that week. So I did MMS for 3months give or take. I post about my truecures experience on his hub as I like to keep this open to MMS discussions. If my progress holds I will be testing in 3weeks both PCR and antibodies methods. I am open to going back to MMS and want to do mainteance doses anyway for healthy living.
hope all is well with everyone else.
Hey PNJ: Have a fun and safe trip to Paris...I wish I was going on a trip.
Hope everyone is doing fine.
So I have sucessfully worked my way up to 15drops 2x a day for about 4 days now. I still have a itchy rash on thigh.. I have been spraying MMS solution on rash for what feels like weeks now. It has improved a bit hasnt gone completly away. Does anyone have a recomendation on how to get rid of this rash once and for all?
Jetsetter- hows your diet? the rash could also be candida related.
hi all - apologies for being away so long, and i appreciate all the emails! i've been back from Europe for sometime now, but my schedule has been quite hectic for various reasons. i wanted to copy a reply i sent to someone in regards to TrueCures and MMS, as i seem to have quite a few enquiries in regards to this. i hope this helps to answer a few questions and everyone is doing well :)!
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Apologies for the late reply. After returning from Europe, my schedule got turned upside down, and I've had a lot of catching up to do!
Inregards to TC, I must say I have not been very impressed. As you know, I had become OB free using MMS, but I had to stop taking it to see TC. Well after seeing TC and quitting MMS, I actually got 2 OB's. TC insisted, as he seems to do quite religiously, that they were not OB's, but I can tell you my common sense told me otherwise. Knowing as much as I do about H and my body, I think I know when I'm getting an OB, and calling it yeast, vaginitis, or an allergic reaction doesn't change the harsh reality that it's still H.
Naturally, after treating the OB's with Dynamiclear, they began to heal immediately. I have since started back on a maintenance dose of MMS, and have not had another OB since, confirming that it was MMS clearing my body of the virus and not TC. The only issue with MMS is making the time to get to a higher dose so that I can do the H protocol, and since I do not yet have time to do that, I am doing a maintenance dose of 5 drops until I can prepare myself to work back up to the H protocol of 15 drops 3x daily for a few months. I've been doing a bit too much running around to do it now, but I will probably get started later this month.
In regards to testing, I would say that you should remember that it was the Resolve team that made this so popular, and I can tell you with certainty that some of those tests are rigged. This is an online community, so you must remember that not everything can be trusted. I have followed certain individuals and their IP addresses (quite a few post under more than one name), and I can tell you that my belief is that quite a few people on the HUB's are either working for Resolve, ashamed to admit they've been scammed - and so they lie about their results, or don't have H and have very questionable motives. This is why I no longer post on nor read the other HUB's. My intentions were to find cures and connect with like minded individuals, not play childish games online. Test results will only tell you that you have been exposed to a virus, they cannot tell you whether or not the virus is still present... although you may get an idea of this based on your antibody numbers - if they lower over time, that is a good indication that there is less virus in your system. So unfortunately, the best way to know that you are being cured is by paying close attention to your body, and there is no quick way to know if you are cured aside from viral blood testing NOT swabbing.
I agree with the diet TC suggests, but the question becomes, if he's a true healer then a diet would not be required. The truth is any doctor will tell you that yeast lives on sugar. Indeed, the first time I was diagnosed with a yeast infection, the first thing my doctor told me was that I should avoid sugar until I had completed the treatment. So it is my belief that the diet is killing the yeast, not TC.
Any wise person knows that the old saying, "you know a tree by its fruits", is a very true statement. To date, I have yet to see anyone I'm familiar with be cured by TC. The only thing I see is TC telling people that their OB's are no longer Herpes, something I find truly mind boggling. When I attempted to open a discussion about this in private, I was sent nasty, argumentative emails that I didn't even bother to read after a certain point. The fact is, this is not the communication of a true healer, as any real healer would know that positive energy is paramount to healing, and TC does nothing but rant, quarrel, and insult people's intelligence.
I hope this helps you in some way and answers your question. I refrained from posting this on my HUB to give TC time to prove his methods, but with so much coming to light, I have decided to copy this to my HUB for anyone else who is curious.
long time posting- hope everyone is doing well.
well I just want to play catch up quickly- I started MMS in January took it until the end of March- got up to 15drops 2x day for a few weeks then saw truecures. I wont comment on truecures here- thats what his hub is for, :) but I have had such healthy living. I have not had a single OB since taking MMS in January.
I took a Western Blot for HSV back in May and it only concluded that I had a past infection for HSV. This was ok- I wanted proof that I did have H, as so much has been thrown out that H is now seen by some as fungal related and other issues. I just wanted an nonrepudiated test for that. I also took the standard IgG test last week and I got my results back today. I am still positive however the levels are 1.22 thats very close to the .91 needed to declare a person negative so I am at least excited that I am headed in that direction. my prior test was in January and the levels were 2.71.
I am trying not to get wrapped into the levels etc as I know they dont mean a whole lot in terms of more or less virus but I am at least comforted by the fact that levels are dropping which COULD mean my body isnt fighting off the virus anymore. I will of course test again to see if I ever get a negative result but for now jsut the update.
for those not familiar with my MMS run- PNJ has my blog linked at the top of the page.
hope everyone else is doing well.
hey every1, i just got real access ta a computer besides my phone. hope all is well wit every1. an hope every1 is ob free. Lantz
Hey Lantz, I've missed you dahling!
I have been doing great using MMS, but I've still been lazy about working my way up to the protocol. The thing is my schedule is too inconsistent to really get it going, so I just do a small maintenance dose, which seems to be working great and I probably don't even need it at this stage.
The TrueCures/David Flowers method was a joke, and mainly consisted of telling people their OB's wasn't herpes after he tapped their bodies a few times. My view on that is an anus doesn't cease to be an anus just because you call it a gateway, lol.
Anyway, I certainly hope you're doing well. I have not spoken with many "oldies" here, just mainly responding to "newbies" via email. Hope everyone's doing well and enjoying the summer!
Hi Everyone
Looking for a bit of advice after reading most of this blog.
In August 2007 I had an outbreak of some kind and I was diagnosed with Herpes. The doctor made this decision after a visual check. I was given no test to prove the diagnoses. The doctor, actually it was a nurse, didn't even explain to me that it would come back, she just gave me some tablets, and said that they would get rid of it.
A few months later I started researching it, only to find that herpes is something that you can't get rid of. At the time I didn't know it was a virus, it was just something I'd never come across.
I went back to the sexual health clinic that diagnosed me with Herpes and demanded a test. They said that it was not possible to test for herpes unless you have an OB. I've never had an OB since the time I was diagnosed, I questioned why I was not referred for a test at the time of the initial OB but no one can answer.
After reading this blog I have noticed that you talk about being tested? Is this during an outbreak or not? I am in the UK and I think you are all from the US, is this maybe why I can't get a test? I really want to know if I have herpes by proof and not by the diagnoses of a nurse - that my doctor and the NHS fully accepts.
I came across this as I fell extremely ill yesterday (I've getting like this every month for the last year), and a new friend brought MMS round and said that it would help me. Now I am usually ill for a week every 4 to 6 weeks, and I am ALREADY better today. Immediately I started researching MMS to come across this.
If I cannot get a test for herpes I want to do the MMS protocol to cure Herpes. From reading this I need to start on 1 drop twice a day, increase it by one drop per dose per day until I reach 15 drops, twice a day, per day. The 15 drop dosage should at least 3 weeks. Without taking Vitamin C 3 hours before or after. Also stick to lean meats, fruit and veg. And of course only taking the dose with 100% juice that does not include Vitamn C. Is that right? Do I need to work on my PH? Also do I have to mix the dose with anything? Or can I take it straight?
When I took it yesterday for this virus I keep getting, I took 10 drops, my friend said that when he gets ill he takes a big dose (10 drops) then drops it to 3 drops. The 10 drops I took did not make me feel sick at all (no side affects), but within hours all the pains in my body were gone and my chest was **MUCH** clearer.
I am so glad to find a blog like this! It will be a huge breakthrough for me if I find out, that actually I can get tested for herpes regardless of OBs.
Sorry, one other question.. I read a little on Candida - But I still can't make the connection with Herpes? Would be grateful if someone could explain?
sorry not sure how the make that text smaller! lol
I just rang my doctor and there is no test available on the NHS that tests Herpes. Only where there is an outbreak. He isn't even aware of any other type of test.
He was so inconsiderate. He didn't understand why I cared or why it is important to know. All he could say was that herpes is nothing to worry about. I told him to research MMS and I briefly told him of my findings, he said it was to good to be true but he did say he would research it.
Where can I get this test????? :-(
Hi Louise -
To answer your first question, yes, there is a blood test you can take, which will tell you if there are herpes antibodies present in your system. That is very strange that your clinic will not test you. The viral test that they are referring to is different. In that test, an outbreak must be present so that the fluid can be tested for the herpes virus. This test is less accurate because herpes cannot survive in air, so the test can show a false negative due to no live virus being present. I would urge you to try another clinic that will provide a blood test for antibodies.
In regards to MMS, I found out a few months ago that the protocol for herpes is 15 drops 3x daily for up to 3 months. The way you work your way to this dosage is to get to 15 drops 2x daily, then add the third dosage beginning with one drop. This is the easiest way to get to 3 drops with minimal side effects. The trick with herpes is that your therapy must be prolonged and consistent due to the fact that herpes can reside in so many parts of the body. For this reason, taking huge doses one day or week will do nothing as the virus will simply replicate afterwards.
Candida and viruses go hand in hand, but they are not one in the same. It is widely known that if you treat the virus, candida will most likely be kept at bay and vice-versa, though it's not always the case. I will be honest with you, I do not quite understand the connection, and I have not found much research on this. My hunch is that viruses change our pH levels somehow, contributing to a more yeast friendly environment.
Whereabouts in UK are you? I will do some research on your behalf and let you know what I find.
One more thing...
A few others have tried pH therapy before starting MMS and had great results. I do not believe this is necessary to experience the benefits of MMS, but I certainly don't rule it out and plan to try pH therapy at some point myself for general health.
And a quick word about testing...
It's become quite popular now among the online community to get tested after trying a therapy in an effort to "prove" being cured. You should understand that this was a fad created by a company called Resolve, and I have more than a few reasons to believe that the "negative" results they show are faked.
The best way to go about getting cured is to first achieve overall health and attack the symptoms. Get to know your body. Once you've done the protocol, your symptoms have ceased, and your health is significantly improved, that would be the time to get your first test. Expect to see antibodies present. This is a GOOD thing because it means that your body is prepared to guard you against future infection (in much the same way that a vaccine works). Understand that a drop in antibody levels could take years for some individuals, so what you will be looking for once your health is back is a decline of antibody levels over a period of time.
Viral blood testing is a possibility for some individuals, but it's not cost effective and not all facilities will provide this test for patients. Due to the fact that our medical industry is designed to treat illness and not actually cure patients, not a lot of information is known about viral levels and what would constitute "cure"... I plan to do a lot more research on this. For now, what we have to work with are antibody levels, and I believe firmly that they will indeed decline in numbers over time as viral presence ceases.
One more thing lol...
I've mentioned a solution before called Dynamiclear. Before trying MMS, I had great success using this stuff. It basically zaps outbreaks immediately, no kidding. It stings A LOT, but my outbreaks would begin to heal immediately and be gone within a day or two.
Well I'm mentioning it again because a girlfriend of mine bought a bottle to use on her cold sores. The company says you must use it when an actual OB is present for it to work, but my friend actually placed a soaked swab on her lip at the first sign of tingling and it actually PREVENTED the OB from ever happening. She told me she taped the swab on her lip for about 15-20 minutes.
Again, this is not a cure, but it certainly is useful information for anyone battling painful OB's.
Pnj hey how are you, listen i found a guy who is cured from herpes and i have posted his info on the main hub i wanted to shoot you his info to b.c it was freaking hard as hell for to find em and he will tell you how he acually did it. Now the guy took dr sebi's stuff 100% completely im not sure if your interested in going down that route but if you are here is his info
Anthony (786-853-3790)
Hi Fight4, cheers for the info. Actually, I know MMS will cure, but yes I am certainly interested in anyone who's been cured, so I will be sure to contact this person and learn what they did. My goal is to encourage people to reclaim their health, whatever route that means, so I truly appreciate your post! I hope you're doing well. What've you been up to lately and how did your therapy go?
Hey,
I managed to find a clinic not far from me that tests for herpes through the urine. It costs £100 and they explained that the NHS in this country do not provide the test (so annoying with the amount of tax I pay!).
I am in London, so I am going to keep ringing around private clinics to see if I can get it cheaper.
I am assuming that the urine test is the only one? (If not is it the best?).
Thank you very much for the advice on MMS. I will start the protocol if my results come back positive.
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I started doing research into ways to try to cure herpes and came across your blog. After reading everything that everyone has written, I wanted to get everyone's updates on their progress with MMS, wanted to know if anyone has tried Lauricidin, and wanted to know if you ever contacted the guy about Dr. Sebi? I would do anything to get rid of this.
I am new to this, but I wanted to see if there was an updates. I am just starting to research to see if there is anyway to cure this disease and I was wondering how the MMS was going, if anyone had tried Lauricidin, and if you had contacted the guy about Dr. Sebi. I would do anything to get rid of it.
Thank you so much!
How do I, or can I get ahold of Jim Humble?
curingfaith@yahoo.com
How do I, or can I get ahold of Jim Humble?
curingfaith@yahoo.com
pnj28,
have you read about Mr. Humble's new protocol (particularly for viruses) that says you should be taking 2 drops (or more) MMS every 2 hours for an extended period of time?
http://mmsnewsdotorg/NEWS005.htm
"JUST A REMINDER - JIM'S NEW AND PROVEN MMS STRATEGY: If you take a mere two-drop activated MMS dose every two hours, all day for several days (and nights if you can), always backing off if nausea sensations appear, then over time you will have cleared away pathogens without climbing to the former goal which was 15 drops or more. With two-drop doses, add plenty of water so that you can't taste the MMS. Water does not thin or reduce the beneficial ClO2 ions - they are locked in the water for about 1.5 hours. If you can't drink the full glass, drink the second half 15 minutes later."
Also see protocol on "handling viruses":
http://JimHumbledotbiz/biz-handlingviruses.htm
what do you think??
pnj28,
Have you read about the new protocol that says you should take 2 drops (or more) MMS every 2 hours all day for an extended period of time to eliminate viruses?
It was is mentioned in Jim Humble's most recent newsletter and on his website (jimhumbledotbiz) under "handling viruses".
what do you think?
FAITHRN - Per our emails, I hope everything worked out for you. Keep me posted. :)
MEDUSA - No, I have not read about that protocol, but I will read up and check my newsletters. The protocol for herpes was quite specific and given to me quite a few months ago, so it will be interesting and great if this has changed a bit. I will send an email as well to be sure, and post what I find out here.
Very well written hub .....
very much informative ......
Thank you very much for your great hub, for good advice, good wishes and support. Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us.
Cheers Jonty! I hope you and others have gotten some good use out of all this. Some of the links have changed recently, so I will be making some updates in the next few days or so.
Hi, I am actually here on behalf of my current GF. I met her after she had been infected and she was up front about it (So I do not have it). The worst thing about it is i love her to no extent and knowing she has it hurts me a lot (And I will never leave her). I want to help her in any way that I can so if anyone knows of any way to cure it please let us know. Thankyou in advance :/
And pnj, so far you are the one I see showing the most progress so if you could, please please please tell me if it works. If you got AIM let me know, I'd be happy to keep in touch that way. I really wish to have her cured of it :( If it is shown impossible I'm willing to risk it to start a family with her regardless.
If you could outline what is safe and seems to be working so far I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Hi I was over at the other hub.... then everything got erased and I saw a link on this site hoping I will get a little more help here you seem to be more into this and helping everyone..just saying because no one ever awnsered anything I post over there..lol..they only address eachother...but anyway I have read through this and I want to add that MMS definately does something to the Herp...When I was on 12 drops an hour after taking it when I was at work I felt a sort of rumbling in my lower back...this was something because I NEVER felt that before.....then when I was on 12 drops I felt that rumbling in my lower back after my nightly dose..what do u think of that? is the lower back where the herpes lives? and i will take 2 drops evey hour ever 2 hous il se my alarm clock but I will also take my other doses untill I each 15 drops ( i am very clos 13/14 drops 2x a day
Thank you for your posts. I found your site (googling "topical MMS infected wound) since l have a wound on my knee that has refused to heal for 2 1/2 months despite many healthstore treatments. A year ago I got my bottle of MMS and started using it at 1/2 a drop and build up gradually to 5 just to fight off so many bugs that are in everyone's body on the planet nowadays. Then, being a loner on my own I stopped. However 3 times I took my horsedosage of 15 drops MMS and as expected felt yucky sick (D) all day but within a day would get over the flu or whatever. One horsedose was tolerable. Then, 2 and 1/2 months ago I had a bad leg injury with a deep wound that refused to heal despite many herbal remedies. Well-informed friends considered my condition dangerous- the wound was still too deep and looked, well, like bacon. So this morning I reluctantly took my horsedose of MMS 15 drops with water, and allowed myself to feel yucky sick all day. Then I decided to google "MMS topical healing wound" and bumped into your site. THANK YOU for so much useful info! You folks are in the trenches on the battlefront vs. pharm. opposition and so I spent 3 hours reading your entire site. Thank you pnj28, Packman & Techie for your info and integrity. Thank you AZ1 and others for your courage. I have an older body, a good share of stress, a foggy brain, much fatigue, a huge toxic build-up (oil and enamel paint, lead, mercury, candidas and critters) even though I do not have H. Whether or not you choose to post me, and whether or not I will be a steady poster remains to be seen. I am interested in your findings re: Jim's new protocol regarding 2 drops every 2 hours with lots of liquid. THAT seems doable! This morning is DEFINITELY the last time I drink MMS with water!!! And I am very seriously considering a longterm gradual steady buildup of MMS. You folks are your own family, and I thank you for sharing your experiences with me, praying that I may become determined to DO THE NEEDFUL in my own life. Again, thank you.
New MMS protocol 3 to as many drop a one can handle per hour not 15 2 or 3 x daily.... I am on 3 drop 8 time daily for h will keep posted..
Dexter - Yes, I heard about the new protocol. Ironically, I've had a hard time incorporating the hourly dose into my schedule, so I've been doing a maintenance dose until I can figure out what will work for me. I also need a bit of clarification in regards to how many drops are recommended because I do not believe it's a good idea to do very high doses on an hourly basis... Seems to me that smaller doses would be sufficient, as collectively that would be a large dose.
I've been working on a project and completely forgot that I sent an email to Jim Humble. Since I have not received a response to my old email, I will try again and see if he can offer any clarification on this. Please let me know how your new protocol is working for you. My maintenance dose is certainly keeping me OB free, and as soon as I can figure out what protocol I need to be on, I plan to map out some time. I just don't want to get started on something that won't work and waste time.
I hope everyone following this HUB is doing well. Please feel free to email if you'd rather not post. I will try to get some updated information within a few days in regards to alternative protocols and how I'm doing so far.
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AZ1 says:
12 months ago
Hey all. It's great to see so many people here now PNJ! The relief I found, finding this hub has been unbelievable.
I've noticed a few people have said they lost weight using MMS. Was this the case for you PNJ? I am currently trying to lose 4-6 kilos, however the weight is clinging and is taking a while to budge. My Naturopath feels it may be because I have a build up of toxins in my system, thus making it harder for the body to shed additional fat cells. I'm wondering how MMS could assist?
Techie - I'm sure you'd be losing weight on your PH diet! lol. Apart from a lettuce leaf salad that consists of carrot and air, what else can you eat? lol. I do admire your strength because I don't think I could do it! Having said that, my Naturopath, as you know, is supporting me with my MMS journey for helping fight H, and in addition to the alkaline diet she prescribed, she also suggested I have 2 tspns lemon first thing in the morning and before dinner. Not only does it help digest food better, but I believe it helps ph levels? Not 100% sure, but I'm doing it!
One more day to go and I start MMS. PNJ, should I start on 1 dop or 2? What are your thoughts?