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By Rochelle Frank


You may have heard of people with bats in their belfry, but how about rats in their manifold, or mice in their motor?

It is only a rumor that small autos are powered by hamsters running full speed on whirling exercise wheels, but rodent residency of engine compartments is not a total myth.

In fact, the damage done to vehicles by mice, rats, and their many cousins can be considerable. Gnawing wires, ripping out insulation for nesting materials, or squirreling away caches of nuts and other treasures in car and truck engines can wreak havoc on some of man's most sophisticated transportation technology and cause a significant finantial loss. This is especially true if you live in a rural area.

Seldom used vehicles are not the only ones which inspire vermin thoughts of habitation. Sierra foothill resident Glennis Tribe found out that furry critters were apparently as excited as she was about her brand new car. In less than 24 hours they managed to destroy much of the wiring.

"The plastic insulating material that is now being used must be especially tasty. It's like caviar to rodents," says Tribe ," they chewed all the wires that connected batteries or alternators or anything electric to anything else. It was rather costly! "

Five months later it happened again. Tribe now has a small electronic deterrent device which sends out rodent- disturbing signals warning tiny intruders to back off. She makes sure it is properly connected each time the car is parked.



photo by Linda Gast
photo by Linda Gast

"Apparently they have nothing but time," says Rick LeDuc of Rick's Automotive Service, who has found elaborate nests in intake manifolds, and even litters of tiny pink mice inside densely re-insulated air cleaners. In one of the more ambitious nests, he found a section of broom handle that had been dragged into the inner workings, as well as "a couple of pounds of dog food." In another instance, he said that only the wires coated with blue plastic insulation had been gnawed. "They are supposedly color-blind, but sometimes they pick out one certain color of wire to chew," he insists.

Several auto repair businesses report that they have numerous incidents of rodent damage each month. The time of year doesn't seem to matter. Hoarding, nest building and wire gnawing are year round occupations. Mechanics say that the animals favor newer cars and trucks, but they also plague vehicles which are parked for extended periods of time. Repair costs can sometimes be as high as $500. In at least one case where so much wiring damage was done that the car was not worth fixing.

People sometimes come into a repair shop complaing that they "smell something burning". The diagnosis might be feather duster plumes tightly packed into a carefully fabricated nest, pine needles jammed into tight spaces, and actual culprits, both living and defunct. A lot of people are surprised to discover the source of their problems.

Why have so many furry occupants taken up residency in a space where renters are not welcome? Are they planning to take over the planet by disabling our vehicles? The real reason they seek an unnatural habitat under a hood, is that it provides a dark, warm, secure place to hide.... at least until the ignition key is turned. Machinations of vehicle start-ups can be deadly for the critters, and sometimes can cause serious consequences for the drivers as well.


Rat photos by Linda Gast
Rat photos by Linda Gast

An acorn, rolling into a crevice after a driver stepped on the gas pedal, kept the throttle open on a late model Ford truck. Brakes were damaged before the driver could shut down power on a winding country road. The wood rat culprit had apparently abandoned ship before the adventure, but his hoard of nuts almost caused a real disaster. The truck required towing and lots of professional attention.

John Muir, the famous Yosemite naturalist, called the Wood Rat, " a handsome, interesting animal". In his detailed descriptions of Sierra flora and fauna, he also opined that " No rat or squirrel has so innocent a look, is so easily approached, or expresses such confidence in one's good intentions."

The colorful comments of many vehicle owners who have been plagued and bedeviled by by these damage- causing beasties is usually much less complimentary, and often unprintable. Those who have been their victims have long since abandoned any "good intentions".

Muir recorded incidents of rats stealing combs, eating utensils, nails, tin cups and spectacles which he supposed were used for the purpose of strengthening it's nest. Quite possibly it was easier for the poetic naturalist to appreciate the animal, since he usually traveled on foot, rather than by SUV.

Wood rats or pack rats are notorious for gathering and accessorizing their nests with varied accumulations. Their collectibles range from natural curiosities like bones, cones, and stones, to the tools, trash and treasures furnished by humans. Once they have found their way into an engine compartment, the rats must think they have found the mother lode of wonderful man-made objects, with wires and hoses and tubes connected to a spectacular variety of shiny metal and plastic components. To this assemblage, they will add their acorns, pine needles hardware items, bottle caps and whatever ornaments suit their eclectic decorating style.

Even before the era of motorized vehicles, people have contended with these tiny terrors. Early settlers did their best to keep rats and mice out of their houses and barns, even though hard rock miners actually encouraged rats to inhabit the mine tunnels. There are tales of miners saving crusts and crumbs of bread for the rodents who acted as a kind of low tech safety system. The rats, being ultra sensitive to tremors or quakes could provide early warning for impending collapses or cave-ins. When the rats suddenly went running for the exit, the mine workers were close behind.

So how can pesky little wire nibblers and insulation grabbers be discouraged? Could a car be disguised with with animal pelts, to make it look like a rat eating predator? Would a ground squirrel be tricked into thinking your car was a mountain lion or a giant badger with the help of a spectacular paint job? Or perhaps one of those big plastic owls could be stuck under the hood, and wired it up with a speaker playing annoying rap music.

Some people park their car over a bucket of mothballs, which is apparently repugnant to rat olfactory perceptors. Other simply leave their hoods open, eliminating the darkness and privacy sought by invasive mammals. Traps, baits or poisons are used by others.

The family dog or cat may help to keep mouselike pests away, though if the cat gets into an engine, it's bad for everyone ..... usually worst for the cat. Some say that even a little bundle of dog hair or cat fur has the power to repel the nuisances. Others swear by the electronic devices used to repel gophers .

There are also little buzzer things that are supposed to keep pets of the furniture. They might work.

The problem is not going away, so drivers might be wise to pay a little extra attention next time they notice an unfamiliar squeak in their vehicle.

They are out there. One of them knows where you park your car.

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DonnaCSmith profile image

DonnaCSmith  says:
2 years ago

One reason rodents chew on wiring is that the electricity produces a salt, which is tasty. Could be the same deal in the cars.

Just the other day I got a napkin out of my glove box and it had been chewed/shredded by something with teeth. Mm, I better check under my hood!

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Rochelle Frank  says:
2 years ago

Hmmm, Donna,

That may be the thing that is making them go for the wires. I can understand them wanting a dark warm cozy place, but wondered about the wire chewing. I thought it might just be that they were looking for sturdier nesting material.

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sixtyorso  says:
2 years ago

Perhaps the rodents are decended from lab rats and such cannot resist being wired!

Nice Hub

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Shadesbreath  says:
2 years ago

Not only is this hub entertaining, it's true.  This poor woman brought a car into my shop many years ago with "cut ignition wires" so we installed new ones for her and she drove home.

She called the next day, furious that we had done such "poor quality work" and demanded we pay to have her car towed back to our shop and for us to do the work correctly this time.

I was totally shocked and confused, but of course I agreed to do so immediately and called our favorite tow company.  Upon getting her car back in the shop, we discovered the "cut" wires again.  I went out to Mike, one of our techs, and asked him how he could possibly have managed to miss some cut wires.  He pulled the woman's old wires out of the garbage can, the whole set still there from yesterday.  "I didn't," he said.  lol.

So we studied the new broken ones and the old broken ones and I noticed little teeth marks, the kind of little grooves you see when you look at a piece of cheese you've just bitten a bite from, in the insulation of the wires.  When I called her up, she didn't even want to believe me, thinking we were pulling a fast one on her somehow.  lol.  I told her we'd replace all of the wires for free this time, because we failed to realize the cause of her problem the first time, so she lightened up.

It took her three more wires and a week to finally catch that mouse.  LOL.  Her car was the first time I ever recommend a cat as a means of automotive preventive maintenance. 

great hub.. sorry I went on so long.  Couldn't help it.

Pete  says:
18 months ago

Just Googled "rodents chew car tubes" and hit this site.

Here's my rodent story.

Had my car serviced 2 days ago, minor service, replaced all fluids etc. And they washed the car for me. And of course, while on their lot waiting for pickup, a large bird did what all birds like to do on newly washed cars & dropped a load on the windshield.

So I picked up the car, drove off and of course hit the windshield washer to clean the bird poop. Hmmm, not as much pressure as usual. Did they top up the fluid ?

Got home, parked the car and noticed fluids dripping out on the ground. Popped the hood. The tube running from the windshield washer tank to the nozzles on the hood hand a chunk bitten out of it, and the area was covered in little bite marks.

And that newly topped up windshield washer tank ? Nearly empty, the contents having been sprayed through the hole all over the engine compartment.

Thankfully just a small rubber hose to replace and not the wiring system in my case.

Thanks for the site, good to know I'm not the only victim.

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Rochelle Frank  says:
18 months ago

It is not as uncommon as some people think. Out in the countryside we have lots of rodents in multiple species. The pack-rats are really inventive in the ways they can mess up man's machinery.

shirley  says:
12 months ago

i saw a rat inside the motor of my vehicle this morning...i've been having to jumpstart my car every morning for about 4 months now i've taken my car to several mechanics and none of them have found the problem, the battery is fine, alternator ok, everything seems good so i have no other choice but keep jumpstarting my car. this mornign i was jumpstarting it again when i saw this big rat next to the battery, it was alive, moving, horrible, i dont know what to do could it been the problem that noone has been able to solve?

Ellie  says:
12 months ago

Very interesting article, Rochelle, but living in a condo with an indoor garage, that's one less thing I have to worry about. Never thought about this type of problem until you drew it to my attention. However, I do park the car outside now and then... Worry...worry...

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RGraf  says:
12 months ago

I never knew that they could cause so much damage to vehicles.

We had a mouse in our house and were trying to catch it. Until it helped us get rid of a neighbor who never could take the hint to end her visit. He became an honored guest after that.

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MellasViews  says:
12 months ago

I never even knew something like this happened to people. This was entertaining and helpful all the same. I also loved how other folks came in to share their rodent in the car stories as well. Who knew!?!?! I have to pass this along to others! ; )

KCC Big Country profile image

KCC Big Country  says:
9 months ago

Rochelle, I don't know how I missed this hub......but I actually put in a hub request a few months back asking how to get rid of pesky mice for this very reason. I went through 4 sets of sparkplug wires in about six weeks time. The first time I had no idea what was wrong with my car. The engine light was on and it was running badly. I had it towed to the dealership just to be told it was a mouse. I replaced the wires and within the week they had eaten through the second set. After the fourth set I made hand-sewn sleeves for each sparkplug wire made out of a heat resistant material I found at the auto parts store. I haven't had any problems since.

We had record numbers of mice in our area according to the local news. We were seeing mice daily inside and out. We live on 27 acres, but have for the last 27 years as well and never had them chew through wires before.

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Rochelle Frank  says:
9 months ago

You might be doing your community a public service by writing an article for your local paper about the problem.  suggest your solution along with others.

I originally did that with this subject, and found that many people were familiar with the problem.

Thanks for reading.

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KCC Big Country  says:
9 months ago

I still may end up writing a hub about it......I know everyone I talked to about it was having some sort of problem with them this year. One co-worker and I would compare notes each morning about how many we had killed the night before.

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Rochelle Frank  says:
9 months ago

Just in the last few days-- I found out i have earned the most from Amazon from ads about rat traps and rodent deterrents ($15 total or so) . They had to have come from this particular hub-- so yes-- go for it.

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bgamall  says:
6 months ago

I have added this hub to my Mice Eating Spark Plug Wires. :) Gary

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Rochelle Frank  says:
6 months ago

Thanks, Gary. I will do the same here-- between the two of us, we may beat those pesky mice. Ha!

TrapGopher  says:
2 months ago

I have seen this very thing happen to my own car. Very interesting. Thanks for the info. http://www.trapgopher.com/

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Rochelle Frank  says:
2 months ago

Seems like most people first hear abut it when it happens to them. I've been lucky so far, but probably should look into the deterrents before it happens.

JAMES O  says:
2 months ago

I HAVE A DODGE VAN THAT THE RATS HAVE MADE A NEST IN THE MOTOR. THEY HAVE CARRIED TO THE MOTOR A FOR SALE SIGN I HAD ON THE VAN FOR SALE, A OLD GLOVE, TONS OF ACORNS, A SCREWDIRVER, AND LOTS OF PAPER TOWELS. I HAVE BEEN REPLACING WIRES FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS. EVERY DAY THEY CHEW SOMETHING NEW. I AM SO SICK OF THESE PEST. I HAVE LEFT THE HOOD UP AND CONTINUED TO MOVE THE VAN IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, BUT NO LUCK. ANY SUGGESTIONS WILL BE HELPFUL.

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Rochelle Frank  says:
2 months ago

There ae some suggestions in the comments formerly made-- One of the best I have heard is to get a plug-in electric deterrent that buzzes when it senses motion.

Them Rodents are very smart.

The " small electronic deterrent device which sends out rodent- disturbing signals" might be your best bet. Good luck!

JAMES O  says:
2 months ago

HELLO, I AM BACK ABOUT THE DODGE VAN WITH RATS. WELL MY HUSBAND SET OFF SMOKE BOMBS (ABOUT 6 UNDER THE HOOD ON THE GROUND TO SEE IF THE SMOKE WOULD RUN THEM OUT AND IT DID, OUR DOG CAUGHT THE RAT AS SOON AS IT DECIDED TO MAKE A RUN FOR IT. WE WILL SEE IN THE MORNING IF IT WAS MORE THAN ONE WE HAD MORE WIRES CHEWED TODAY. THANKS

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Rochelle Frank  says:
2 months ago

Persistence pays. Hope they didn't do too much damage.

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Betty Reid  says:
2 months ago

Thanks for the article. I had squirrels under my hood for a while. I don't want to ruin your advertising, so let me just say that Amazon also sells cayenne pepper.

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Rochelle Frank  says:
2 months ago

Was that your remedy? Makes sense. I don't think squirrels are much into peppery seasonings-- though maybe if you are close to the southern border...

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HarperSmith  says:
6 weeks ago

I ran into this problem on a brand new Toyota Supra several years ago. Mice had pulled up carpet padding and made anest in the air cleaner. Thanks for the hub I never heard of anyone else having this problem.

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Rochelle Frank  says:
6 weeks ago

Seems like it isn't that unusual especially when you live in rural areas.

Yesterday I saw a gray squirrel with a a mouthful of blue plastic fibrous material (ripped off of a disintegrating tarp that is covering some firewood). A nice little bundle which I am sure is going to add a decorative touch to an otherwise ordinary squirrel nest.

Rodents are amazingly inventive and adaptable.

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