My Helio Nightmare

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By Deep Throat


STOP! Don't go with Helio till you read this!!!!

 

I am posting my experience here so that hopefully it will save others from going through what I am still going through with Helio. If you are shopping for a new cell phone, you should read this first:

I was shopping for a new cell phone a few months ago, when I saw an online comparison featuring 10 "hot" new cell phones. I had never heard of some of them, including one that I thought looked really cool and did all the things I wanted in a new phone--the Helio Ocean.

For those that don't know, the Ocean is a slider with a full QWERTY keyboard and a relatively large screen good for internet use. I had never heard of Helio either (the cell phone service provider selling the Ocean and the service plan for it). Well, I went ahead and ordered an Ocean, and that's when my problems started.

It cost me $320.97 for the device itself (just the hardware which incl the Ocean and accessories, plus shipping). The service plan and acitvation were billed separately, pretty standard stuff. So I get the phone, activate it and start using it. So far so good, until a few days later when I was surfing the net and the Ocean suddenly shuts off with no warning. Blip...it goes completely dead. Black screen and all. I couldn't even make a call, it just wouldn't respond or turn back on until several minutes later it powered back on after repeated attempts.

This is not good, I thought. Hope it doesn't do that again!!! But, the next day, again while surfing the net, it did. This time I had just finished charging the battery so I knew that wasn't it. I called up Helio from the device and the guy in customer service said he thought it needed to be reprogrammed, but I would have to call back on a land line so they could access the device. So I called back on a land line, and of course they wouldn't let me talk to the same person even though he had given me his extension and told me to ask for him...not possible said the new person, so I started all over again with her (AAarrgh!), explaining what had happened and that the guy I had just spoken with there thought it should be reprogrammed. Oh no, she said, Helio's policy is not to reprogram unless blah, blah, blah...so I had to get very insistent with her until she finally relented and walked me thru a reprogram of the phone.

OK, I thought, that should be the end of that problem. Wrong!!! The next day the same thing happened again while netsurfing. This kept happening over the next several days. And each time, the Ocean would not come back on until it was good and ready, sometimes up to 20 minutes later. This was getting frustrating to say the least, and for someone doing business with this device which is what it's touted for, it could be costly. And what if I had to make an urgent call during that time...I'd be out of luck.

Well by this time I decided I didn't want the Ocean and would just send it back. Helio has what they call a 30 day customer satisfaction period during which if you send back the device and cancel your service you get a refund. Or at least that's what it says in their contract...but the reality for me has been quite different.

I packaged up the device exactly as it came with all the original packing, even down to the protective cellophane covering the screen, and shipped it back. The tracking info on UPS showed it got there within the 30 days from my order date, so I had documentation of it. Should be no problem getting a refund, I thought, since I had met all the requirements for it.

Also, within the 30 day trial period, I had contacted Helio customer service again(they call it Member Care--seems like they forgot the care part!), this time in writing so I had a record of it, and notified them that I did not want to keep the phone and wanted to cancel the service. I have a record of this email along with their response, in which they claimed there was not justification for sending the phone back and I would have to have it reprogrammed again since there was no record in their computers that they had already reprogrammed it, even though they had!

To the time of this writing, they have not only not refunded the money for the hardware I returned, they have not responded to further written correspondence asking them about it, have not cancelled my service plan even though I told them in writing to do so and no longer have a phone, and they continue to send me bills. I paid the first bill which included the first month's service, airtime and activation. But the bills keep coming.

If you think this is bad, wait till you see what I had to go thru when I wanted to port the number over...

I decided to go back to my old cell provider and just get a new phone with them, but I wanted to keep the number Helio assigned with the Ocean. So I called my old provider and told them I wanted to port the Helio number over to their service and assign it to a new phone. OK, they said, it takes 3 to 5 business days. I said fine, and they started the process. I waited, and waited and finally a week later I called them to see what the holdup was. They said Helio still had not released the number. I waited another couple of days and still nothing. Finally, two weeks later, I had had enough. I got on the phone with Helio again, demanded to speak to a manager and had to threaten legal action against them under the federal law that covers this. She became condescending and not very nice to me, but the number was finally released later that day. During this entire 2 weeks I was without a cell phone, which was a major inconvenience for me in my work.

I had no choice but to file a dispute with VISA for the $320.97 charge to try to get a refund for the device itself. I have not disputed the $138 I paid for the first month's bill, at least not yet, since I thought that would be the end of it. But since they are still billing me for an account I can't even use and notified them in writing to cancel, I'm not sure what I'll do on that yet.

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UPDATE 10/3/07

VISA has awarded me a temporary credit for the returned phone ($327) pending the final outcome of their dispute investigation. Fortunately for me I documented pretty much everything and supplied that to VISA, so I expect they will ultimately rule in my favor. I'll let you know.

Still no word from Helio and no resolution to the monthly billing.

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UPDATE 10/15/07

I received yet another monthly bill from Helio along with a past due notice for last month's bill. This is airtime I am not using because of course I haven't had a phone for 2 months and the number was ported to a different carrier...yet they haven't figured that out yet. A classic case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

So I called them up again, and this time insisted on speaking to a supervisor directly. I was eventually routed to one after being put on hold and then transferred back thru the voice prompt routine again. (This time I got lucky though, I only had to explain the situation to 2 different people--lol.) So I finally got a supervisor and she put me on hold for a while then came back and said, yes, they can see you haven't used any airtime since you said you sent the phone back and it was within the 30 days, so they will wipe off the last 2 months charges (I still had to pay the first month's bill, which I had already done, and I am ok with that). I asked for and received an email confirmation that my account was closed.

Hopefully this is the end of this sorry affair. I just wanted to try a new cell phone and had to go thru all this!!!!

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UPDATE 11/9/07

Well, sadly, that wasn't the end! Helio just sent me another bill, despite the email saying my account was closed. Only this time, the bill showed the credits for the airtime as they promised, and then a big fat charge of $320.97 that they're calling "Insufficient Funds" and a late charge tacked on of $1.24. Unbelievable!!! First of all, the $320.97 was credited back to me by Visa to my debit card in settling the dispute because Helio did not credit me for the Ocean I returned within the 30 days. So now Helio is trying to charge me for that with a bill! Second, how can you charge a late fee if you haven't billed for this before? Well, I will now have to get on the phone and spend more time trying to straighten this out. What a poor excuse for a company Helio is. I will keep you posted on how this comes out.

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UPDATE 1/9/08

After three more phone calls to Helio during December, which consumed nearly two hours more of being put on hold repeatedly, being transferred to other people and having to explain the entire situation yet again, I finally believe this may be the end of this "30-day trial"--which has now lasted 6 months--Helio assures me they have zeroed out all charges and that I will not get any more bills. So far I have not, and if January passes with no more surprises, I will begin to believe this is really done.

Bottom line, do yourself a favor and save yourself major hassles and headaches--JUST SAY "NO!" TO HELIO.

No one should have to go thru this kind of awful treatment of a customer by any company, whether it is deliberate or simply because of incompetence. If Helio is doing this to me, I suspect there may be many others having the same issues. I would like to hear from anyone who has had similar problems with their service or devices.

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Cat  says:
6 months ago

Yeah...I have a feeling I'm about to go through the same ordeal as you. I signed up with Helio last year, after ridiculous cat and mouse games with CS and excessive charges on my bills I'm done. I just went back to my old provider today, bought a phone, activated service and the port hasn't gone through yet...12 hours later.

Anonymous  says:
5 months ago

I totally agree with the above posts. I obtained a Helio Ocean last year and experienced similar hardware problems. Repeated calls to Helio's technical support couldn't resolve the problem, which resulted in two replacement devices. After having returned both the original and second device, I was erroneously charged a late fee (which amounted to the actual cost of a Helio Ocean) for allegedly failing to return one of the defective devices within the company's 14 day policy upon receipt of the replacement. FedEx receipts clearly showed that both devices were returned in accordance with the company's policy, but repeated phone calls to numerous agents achieved no results. Cordial requests to speak to supervisors were denied, and I was simply placed on hold for 20 to 30 minute increments of time only to be told the billing error would have to be approved by no less than four (4) higher departments. Finally, I grew tired of the rigmarole of dealing with incompetent and insensitive agents and decided to report the matter to the Better Business Bureau. I also threated to file a small claim against the company. The combination of these actions apparently convinced the company to act in my favor, as the bill was adjusted, albeit 2 weeks after the original billing error. Overall, my experience with Helio has been horrendous, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a mobile provider. I will be paying the exorbitant $200 early cancellation fee long before my 2-year agreement expires, if for no other reason than to purchase "peace of mind". Anyone doubting the stories here need only contact the California chapter of the Better Business Bureau for an endless list of consumer complaints against the company. Don't take our word for it; read the reports and make your own decision!

Deep Throat  says:
5 months ago

Cat and Anon, thanks for sharing your [unfortunate] experiences with this incredibly incompetent company. Hopefully by speaking out we'll spare others their own Helio nightmare...DT

wilson82  says:
3 months ago

Wow!!

2 Hell w/ helio...

I concur 2 all the above mentioned bad issues...I should've read the signs when i spent $300 + just 4 the Ocean, in addition to another $300+ for security deposit & the also the hassle just to get activated w/ the foreign CS help.

BUT my issue besides the ocean black-outs etc. is that they FOrced terminated my account after 2 months behind w/o the 30 notice in Ch 12 of their clauses. Insult to injury they don't consider the previous paid amounts, or calls i gave to state my intent to pay ASAP. (I learned they don't take notes or ref. memos to share)

So Bottomline: 2 Hell w/ Helio. From Ky.

BETTY  says:
2 months ago

STAY WITH YOUR CURRENT CARRIER!! I HAVE BEEN WITH HELIO AND HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT A HEADACHE OF NUMEROUS OVERCHARGES AND COUNTLESS HOURS INVESTED INTO CUSTOMER SERVICE CALLS THAT LEAD TO ME BEING MYSTERIOUSLY DISCONNECTED ON (FROM BOTH MY CELL AND USING A LAND LINE), GOING AROUND AND AROUND IN CIRCLES GETTING NO WHERE AND BEING PUT OFF ON HOLD FOR AN HOUR AND FORTY EIGHT MIN "YES I WATCHED THE MIN GO BY". I HAVE THEIR 99.00 A MONTH PLAN FOR UNLIMITED AND HAVE BEEN CHARGED 9/07 150.00 AT THE LEAST , ALL THE WAY TO 3/08 696.07, WTF?? 2/08 573.32, 4/08 360.68, 5/08 369.08 AND EVERY MONTH NOT ONE SERVICE REP CAN EXPLAIN TO ME THE BREAKDOWN FOR WHERE THE CHARGES GOT TO BE THIS SUM, INSTEAD EXPLAIN TO ME " IT SAY HERE YOU OWE ($$$.$$) SO YOU MUST PAY ($$$.$$) CAUSE DAT YO BILL FO DIS LAS MONTH!!" AND THAT IS THE MOST INTELLIGENT EXPLANATION I'VE YET TO GET. I HAVE TRIED TO CALL THE CORP OFFICE AND HAVE ONLY BEEN ROUTED TO VOICE MAIL BOX AFTER MAIL BOX AND AM STILL WAITING FOR MY MESSAGES TO BE RETURNED, I HAVE EMAILED COMPLAINTS REQUESTING HELP IN REGARDS TO MY BILLING ISSUES ASKING FOR A BREAKDOWN IN THE CHARGES AND I GET NOTHING I HAVE NOW FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE BBB WHOM IS CURRENTLY LOOKING INTO THE MATTER ALONG WITH HAVING NOW HIRED AN ATTORNEY TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE ACCORDINGLY BECAUSE I CANNOT TAKE THE RUN AROUND BS. OF BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AS THE CONSUMER. I SHOULD HAVE NEVER SWITCHED FROM AT&T WHOS SERVICE NEVER FAILED ME AND HAD CUSTOMER SERVICE 24/7/365 TO HELP ME WHENEVER I WANTED NOT JUST BETWEEN THE 9-5 HOURS WHEN YOU DON'T EVER NEED THEM. WEEKENDS HOLIDAYS AND EVERY AT&T REP I EVER SPOKE WITH WAS HAPPY TO HELP, RESOLVED WHATEVER ISSUES I RARELY HAD, DID NOT LEAVE ME ON HOLD AND IF EVER WE GOT DISCONNECTED THEIR CS REP ACTUALLY CALLED ME BACK. NO KIDDING THEIR REPS EVEN SPOKE ENGLISH. I REGRET EVER SWITCHING INTO THE HELIO NONSENSE OF FALSE ADVERTISING WHEN THEY SAY "TOTAL HAPPINESS GUARANTEE" IF THAT IS NOT THE BIGGEST LIE, THEY HAVE SHOWN NOT ONE ATTEMPT TO BETTER THE SITUATION WHEN NOT ONE EMPLOYEE FROM THE CORP OFFICE CAN EVEN HAVE A INTERN E MAIL ME, HOW HJARD IS IT TO PROVIDE A CUSTOMER WITH A TALLIED BREAKDOWN OF CHARGES SHOWING HOW THE SUM ADDED UP, I KNOW ON LINE I HAVE PRINTED EVERY BILL AND EVERY PAYMENT DOING BASIC ADDITION AND SUBTRACTION AND I SHOW HELIO OWING ME A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS IN OVER CHARGES! IF THEY CHOOSE TO BEG TO DIFFER I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THEIR HUDINI MATH SKILLS CONSIDERING THE ONLY THING I HAVE SEEN OUT OF THIS COMPANY IS FALSE ADVERTISING, POOR BUSINESS LIKE MANNERISMS AND THEIR NAME BEING LIT UP AS SCAMELIO. THIS COMPANY IS A BIG ZERO IF YOU HAVE YET ENCOUNTERED THEIR POOR TACT HOORAY FOR YOU STAY AWAY AND IF YOUR STUCK IN THEIR TRAP BEST OF LUCK I HOPE YOU DON'T NEED IT!

Deep Throat  says:
2 months ago

Whoa--you've really been thru it with these people Betty--it seems so many people have gotten treated so badly by this company, it's really a shame that they are still getting away with it.

Feel free to email and post the link to this article all over the place--if we can prevent more people from falling into a mess like this it's worth it!!!

http://hubpages.com/hub/My-Helio-Nightmare

Annz  says:
5 weeks ago

Total nightmare. Helio seems like a cool concept until you have a problem. I took my phone into the store because it was freezing up, periodically. Salesperson assures me she can upgrade the software. She somehow manages to load someone else's information onto my phone. I have this guy's contacts, texts, pictures and videos...my information is gone and I have no service! 5 days later (and numerous trips to the store and calls to customer service) and they finally restore my service and information. The company didn't even apologize!! If you value your personal information, do not go with Helio!!

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