OPEN LETTER TO ATHEISTS
60Dear Sir, Madam:
Atheism is a belief system. Atheism is a religion. You believe that there is no God. Supposedly what you believe is based on science. But this science is not real. It is only a pseudoscience. It is scientific fiction.
I would like to state that I am not talking about real science.
Atheism is a faith-based religion fed by false information and opinions. It is also a political movement. Its tendency is to remove God from life.
The word “religion” is defined as the opinion of individuals or groups of people about God, His Word and moral values. Christianity is not a religion. It is way of life and a relationship with God.
You, as atheists, decided to believe in the nonexistence of God, which is based on the wrong information.
Science is constantly changing just like everything we see around us. Therefore it is unreliable. The material world is in a constant state of change.
In the past, science and religion believed that the earth was flat, but the Bible said it is round. The Word of God is unchangeable and is as stable as a rock, just like God—He does not change. This is only solid belief in which we can trust.
Any science has to be proven by an experiment and must be reproducible. You, as atheists believe in evolution but you cannot prove it and you cannot reproduce it in an experiment. It is not possible to go back a billion years back and live and observe evolution. This is why evolution is only a theory.
There are over 6000 religions on the word and all of them may be wrong. I say that I am not religious. I am a biblical believer, born of faith in the Word of God. (John 3:3). I am a new Creation.
You atheists do not believe in the supernatural, only natural world. Those who believe in God believe in both the natural and the supernatural. Since they are two levels of existence it is not possible to have a discussion between those two groups.
Socialism and Communism embraced atheism and materialism. This is the reason why the systems failed. They were based on hate. Hate is a negative “building block” and cannot be successful. God is good God and as a result He produces goodness. Christianity bought us freedom and equality. There is no better confirmation about being right and this truth is based on the Word of God.
Our school system is teaching Socialism, Marxism and materialism. Discussions between many students and adults are almost impossible. Being taught these things is creating a barrier between believers and materialists and is splitting the country.
Materialists hate God. It is hard to understand why someone would hate something that does not exist.
I would like to give an apology, to all: atheists, religious, and believers for not meeting your expectations and disappointing you. We have many faults, including hypocrisy and judgment. There is One Jewish man, Jesus, who never failed, was perfect all His ways and died for it. He took upon Himself our failures of doubt and many curses that we no longer have to carry.
We all went astray—all of mankind, but God made a covenant with Israel. He made that covenant with Abraham that though his seed all the nations will be blessed. Did God cast them out, just because they were disobedient as we all are? Tell me who among us is better than they are?
Dear atheist, I just want to say to you that many things are more than what we can see. But God loves you and it is enough what to say.
No. 1209
© 2009 Vladimir Uhri
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Thank you, ReuVera, for your interesting comment.
Vladimir Uhri: Your 'facts' about atheists and atheism are way off base.
Ticia,
You do not support your arguments with the facts. Bless you.
Vladimir, you may just delete Ryan's comment, as it is just rude, impolite and insulting. He doesn't seem to have an account on Hubpages, so there's no use to report him.
You said it, ReuVera. Thanks.
Vladimir: I am not an atheist,agnostic, deist or a believer in the incorporeal supernatural. Pls define, factually, for us this god thing you tout as being extant. There is no definition of "it" in any monotheistic writing/scripture. If you cant define it in terms other than the metaphysical and opinion, you are but guessing. Your comments would, thus, not be credible.
What ever you say is fine with me. You live what you believe. You will live by what laws you have been chosen. I am not scientifically defining anything. I think science is so limited even seem to us that we know too much. Relatively we accomplished many things, but not enough, what is there. I just believe and trust God who is awesome and beyond my understanding. He loves me and you no matter what. His goodness is everlasting and His mercy endures forever.
If my comment is credible or not it is up to people who decide for themselves. Even we know much in our life we as a "society" go down. I am old enough to see and observe.
I did not add yet in my hub how much God loves the atheists.
Please joint hub club. We like to hear from you more.
Vladimir...ty for your response. It matters not to me if you believe "blindly." I have been a student of anthropology and the history of man's religions for about 30 yrs. I have not yet found one monotheistic writing that defines this god thing in any form other than opinion amd conjecture. All of man's "gods," historically have been imagined. I am curious as to why this contemporary god thing has been created any differently? Have you studied the various theistic beliefs that have been instrumental in the development of differing cultures over many millenia? Or is your belief in this god thing based soley upon "instinct" and emotion? Without defining something factually, how can "it" be known?....and why would one believe in it?
TY
qwark
Thanks for comment.
Brilliant!! Great Hub.
Thanks for visit, sis,
Qwark, thank you for visit. No I did not have too much of anthropology. I guess is was only slight touch in medical school. My friend, chief of Gastroenterology in old country did study on his own. I think he published also some book and papers.
The way I see my thinks are different as yours. You are nihilist and I am a believer. The science could and will no discovery anything pertinent, there is or not God. Somebody said that faith and science will meet each other sometimes. I do not doubt it. I have my faith based on hearing Word of God. But I tested. The faith is not only I believe God or not. The faith is basic element. It make you healthy, blessed, able one to love unlovable. The goodness is before us. I was healed and I seen healed cancer, tumors, many diseases. I experienced it also on myself. That's enough for me. I have a lot of joy (happiness is only emotional matter). Happiness is not enough.
We physicians do not see reason why person dies. We are replaced every 7-10 years, therefore our "house" - body is in this time completely new. There is evil here. I know it and you know it. Evolution is not far proved. New age claims there is no start or end. But what is new age? It is an old Hindu teaching and modified. No answers, no perfect life either.
Of course there is a design. Everything has a purpose. I think I know how God created universe. But go back there is the purpose for everything. The matter we are made from is holding together because universe exists.
As you know well, the earth has all elements of matter here. Then we are made from it. But matter could be dead or alive. What is the difference, which we know. There is the life, there is the spirit.
The purpose for earth is we need the plants. Animals need it. We need both animals and plants for food. How could be there is no purpose? Even moon has a purpose for this planet for optimal life. I do not mention the rest.
The first mischief of man was the faith failure. Unless man will spend the time in WORD, he cannot gain the faith for his justification. The faith will give him, more, life.
But we are so proud about our knowledge. Was it not knowledge which was hidden in the library - tree and we should wait for God to give us and revelation? When one man think will see that we do not know anything. Just sliver in comparison what we do not know.
Vladimir: that reply just threw logic and reason out the window. You believe blindly..but ty for the response.
Qwark
quark, thanks for response. I noticed some language problems in my response and I regret it. If I am not logical I could not function properly. I have a successful business. I am not skill in anthropology as you are. But logically it did not convince you one way or another. You said you are not an atheist either. Sorry I am talking about your personal belief. But again it is the faith which make you as you are.
Um no. As this is an open letter, I assume you are looking for a response.
Atheism is a lack of belief in an invisible super being. yours or all the other ones you choose not to believe in. Which does not make it a belief system. I must admit people like you are a big part of what persuaded me not to believe in it - so thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Mark, I am very sorry. But If I would write differently I am sure you will find another excuse. All is just decision.
I use to be one time the atheist. All is just a decision. There are much better believers as I am, did they convinced you otherwise?
To believe, or nor to believe?..... It’s not even a question. If a person considers it with his mind, he is not a believer, but is religious. And the world knows hundreds of religions. If representatives of every nomination will try to convert other people, we all will go nuts.
Our road to believing should be our personal choice. Sometimes we stay atheists, or Catholics, or Lutherans, or Jewish mostly because inner us would resist any attempts to be converted otherwise.
As I said before I was raised by system an atheist. My family was not religious. It was not atheistic either.
To believe or not to believe is not a question for me. I am a believer, though many religious people will not grant it to me. My God is not a living being or an invisible super one. My God is The One and my God is inside me. I call it Conscience. You may call it different. It doesn’t matter how you call it. It’s about how you feel it.
Everyone has to come to his believes on his own. Most atheists are atheists because they are so influenced by religious people, that they hate anything connected with God. If we take time to stop and look back, and think, we will find our own God inside us.
ReuVera, the conscience is not God, it is only voice of your spirit. It is part of your spirit. But our conscience did not created the world or the wisdom independent to us. If our conscience is god, then we would be omniscience and omnipotent. Thanks for comment.
That's right, our conscience couldn't create the world, I didn't think about this, ooops.
I just wanted to say that we have to come to God by our own ways.
That's right.
LOL - It is not a choice. I do not believe - largely because of the hypcritical crap you guys spout. Think about that. :)
We all make choices, admit we or not. This is hypocritical (when we don't admit it). If you think about that, of course. LOL. I do believe - largely because atheists are so cynical....
Nobody forces you to believe, Mark, you are free in your feelings.
Anyway, it was nice seeing you here.
Ah, Mark, just curious, you've said to Vladimir, "I must admit people like you are a big part of what persuaded me not to believe in it - so thank you from the bottom of my heart." I myself hate when somebody tries to brainwash me...so I understand you in a way. That's why I try not to take anything for granted and I never read pre-word when I take to read a new book.
Do I understand right, you were influenced NOT to believe in God by religious "crap"(crap from your point of view, of course) you read from those who believe? If so, would you believe if it were ALL up to YOU? If you didn't listen to what other say but go along your own feelings?
If you are going to answer my question, please, be honest, sencere and try to be polite (at least not rude), you know, I am a sensetive woman. :)
Hi Mark. Do you know what? I already said we were one or another time hypocrites. Do you think if they will be killed and eliminated then you will believe?
By the way was Karl Marx atheists or not?
I never met Karl Marx - and that is an extremely weak argument.
RV- Yes - I watch the behavior of those who claim tio believe in a god and see the same behavior as those who do not. Logically - it makes no difference if you believe in god - you are just as likely to be a cunt. Therefore - there is no god. What a shame - if only those who did believe behaved any better - it might make a decent argument, But not - :lol:
"Atheism is a faith-based religion fed by false information and opinions. It is also a political movement. Its tendency is to remove God from life."
You can see that empty political movement to remove God from life on their campaign runing on buses in UK. What a sentiment and ignorance on the Spirit life.
Atheism : ) why so much of hateness within you towards them. believe me they dont hate God indeed, they hate the way you spread God, all of you waking up the ego within them, your fault. you made them against you because of you. most of you are just arise hateness even amongst believers from different beliefs, and why would you blame them. YOU believers dont love each other and expecting the non to love your way.
Friend Mark, I love you.
Andrew, thanks for visit.
Atheism is the rejection of theism. If atheism is a belief system then so is the a-ghost-ism, or a-leprechaun-ism, etc. This is a fundamental fact.
Rejection of theism is based on faith which is false and unproved.
Thank you for stopping.
(Any science has to be proven by an experiment and must be reproducible.)
Science is not in the business of proving anything. Specifically, science is not concerned about proving that anything exists or not. Science is in the business of studying that which exists and rationally explaining its workings.
Yes evolution is a scientific theory - not speculation. The theory explains the existence of evolved transitional forms of species collected on the planet. The physical data is already there and is a fact - we can point at it just like we can point at you or your car. This is why facts are not matters of opinion. The theory of evolution rationally explains "how" it evolved. There is no question that it did evolve - the question is how. So even if the theory of evolution is proven wrong, it just means that the species didn't evolve via that explanation, but via another explanation.
With no disrespect intended; you really don’t understand what “science” is or does, nor what a scientific theory is. Please read up and educate yourself before making foolish comments.
Science is the study of existence – nothing else. Science does not prove anything. Why? Because science works by the null hypothesis and the falsifiable theory. Read up on this. There is no proof in science, never was, and never will be. The reason for this is so that scientific theories can always be upgraded when new explanations emerge. Science is not a bible that is set in stone forever and ever amen. If anybody can find just one conflicting or erroneous fact about a scientific theory, then that that theory is automatically scrapped and a new updated one is formed. That’s why science has nothing to do with proof – only you are making up these claims because you don’t understand what science is.
In science there is no proof - there are only rational and irrational explanations. We learn from the rational and we laugh at the irrational.
(Atheism is a belief system. Atheism is a religion. You believe that there is no God. Supposedly what you believe is based on science.)
Atheism is not a belief “system”. Atheism is a CONCLUSION and a RESPONSE to theism. Atheism is not a hatred for theists - that's anti-theism. Theists initially came up to people and told them their blind idea that "god exists". After considering this proposal, some people said they believe it to be true, and thus became theists as well. While others said they believe it to be false, and hence responded with atheism - a rational CONCLUSION that they objectively believe there is no god.
Atheism is not a religion as atheism does not propose any absolute truth, spirit, god, supernatural, afterlife, or ideology. The hallmark of a religion or a god-worshipper or a god-believer is ABSOLUTE TRUTH in their ideology – forever and ever amen.
No, atheism is not based on science. Science has nothing to do with theism or atheism. Science studies that which exists, nothing else. Atheists who claim that atheism is based on science are not atheists. They couldn’t even tell you what they are. They are probably anti-theists and fall under the category of “dumbasses”.
Atheism is an intellectual position or a conclusion that atheists arrive to; not a philosophy, not an ideology, not a religion, and not a science. There are no prescribed rules or doctrine that atheists must adhere to. Rationality is an action one can take, with modern logic as a tool one can use, in order to reach the conclusion of atheism.
Religion = ideology + faith
Atheism = rationality + logic
(Atheism is faith-based)
No! Atheism is based on reasoned belief which is objective. The belief in god is based on FAITH, which is a blind belief that is subjective. Faith can also simultaneously be based on mythical belief, which involves a story having only itself as evidence, and hence circular reasoning; which is a logical fallacy. Objective belief tells us that the sun will rise tomorrow. This can’t be proven until tomorrow comes, and belief turns into a truth. We reason that the sun has always risen and we have no argument that it won’t. This is an objective argument. Theism can offer no such argument for its beliefs, because they are all subjective – based on faith alone.
(You, as atheists, decided to believe in the nonexistence of God, which is based on the wrong information.)
Atheists don’t believe in a “nonexistence”, as nonexistence is not a thing, nor a predicate of anything. Atheists believe there is no god. And this is not based on any information that is wrong. Beliefs are not based on any information, wrong or otherwise. Objective beliefs are based on a rational and logical explanation. Subjective beliefs are based on an irrational explanation or on one’s opinion.
No offence intended, but you really need to study up on what truth is, and the types of beliefs humans can hold.
double post - sorry
Sir I have no intention to offend you at all as you do. But you do not know what you talking about. Atheism is religion even registered in US government.
I am an scientist worked in experimental pathology for years. I have of board certification in Dialectic and Historic materialism and Marxism, as well as Political Economy. You do not even know what is the faith. The faith is existing substance not seen. There exits untrue faith based on guessing, which in our case is an evolution. Everything what we see is unstable and God never changes.
Thank you for visit and comment.
Oh please, I am not trying to offend you. I am just responding to your claims. That's what these forums are about.
(Atheism is religion even registered in US government)
Who registered it? Please quote.
And since you say it's a religion, then please tell us what absolute truth atheism believes in, and what is its set of defined ideologies.
(I am an scientist)
Then you should know what science is. I shouldn't have to be teaching you that science is the STUDY OF THAT WHICH EXISTS.
(I have of board certification in Dialectic and Historic materialism and Marxism, as well as Political Economy.)
Then I will say to you the same thing I say to all the decorated Kings and Queens of the land: the fact that you are responding with your credentials, certificates of achievement, club memberships etc. in defense of your position, is a LOGICAL FALLACY called Appeal to Authority. Either your have a rational argument to support your position or an irrational one. So far you have provided an irrational one with zero logic or substance. You haven't even refuted anything I have told you about atheism.
(You do not even know what is the faith. The faith is existing substance not seen. There exits untrue faith based on guessing)
As a decorated scientist, please define the word "exists" in your sentences above, so that this word can be consistently used for objects and concepts, in addition to what you claim exists, namely faith substance. I am sure you understand this proper scientific protocol.
In Science, we don’t define words with heart-felt emotion as they do in religion. We explicitly define them with words and sentences and positive predicates. This is necessary for defining the crucial terms on which a claim hinges. The looser we define a word, the wider the range of interpretations, and the more dilute the message that gets across will be. We need rigorous definitions to communicate a claim precisely. A prosecutor who leaves a strategic word in his theory undefined is not doing science because he cannot possibly understand what he is talking about. He has left a loophole through which to escape when the press starts asking the tough questions at the end of the presentation - like ME for instance.
But I'm sure you already know this. Well then, define what exists means in your statements above and show how "faith is existing substance not seen".
(God never changes)
Which God never changes, the God of the Old Testament or another?
Thanks for your response.
science is the STUDY OF THAT WHICH EXISTS.
You are right. But atheism is not the science, atheism is believe system. It is SciFi. You cannot study evolution on the basis of pig tooth (remeber Monkey Trial?).
I do not keep track of church registration. I seen ti on Web.
No one can study evolution since we were not there. Study something is measuring from point A to B and recording and evalutation with the conclusion.
Atheism is believe of nothing, no substance. As I said somewhere when you impregnate woman without sperm then still somebody must create the man. I was an atheists I know better.
Premise1: (But atheism is not the science, atheism is believe system.)
Premise2: (Atheism is believe of nothing, no substance.)
A belief system has a set of beliefs, dogma, ideology, etc. So it has something rather than nothing. So your Premise2 is contradictory.
You said: Atheism is believing in something AND atheism is believing in nothing.
That is a logical contradiction of the form P and not-P at the same time. Therefore your statement is false. Wanna try again with another, hopefully rational statement this time?
Yes, atheism is not science, as atheism is not the study of existence. Atheism never claimed to be connected with science – you made that claim without any logical basis. Atheism is a conclusion and a response to theism. Without theists, there is no atheism. Just like without races, there is no racism, etc. Just like without men, there is no feminism. Are all these examples of religions? If so, what are their claims of absolute truth, and what gods, spirits do they believe in?
(I do not keep track of church registration. I seen ti on Web.)
Ok, another fallacious argument from Appeal to Authority. If you cannot rationally make your case about your blind beliefs towards atheism, then you don’t have a case.
(No one can study evolution since we were not there.)
As a scientist, you should know that you don’t have to be there as it happens to study something. You can study all the evidence left behind, just like it’s done in crime scenes every day. And new advances in technology makes this easier and more efficient. Some scientists have the intellectual ability to study fossils, biological remains, geological formations, etc., and some don’t. Nobody said that being a scientist automatically makes one a critical thinker. Critical thinkers come from birth, not from graduation.
ReuVera says:
11 months ago
Very interesting. I grew up in a socialistic school, I was a member of a young pioneers organization (a mandatory, but “an honorable” right of all school children). Then there was ComSoMol (communistic union of young people), another “honorable” mandatory right. You would be in a trouble if you graduate not being a member of those. Then, of course, the Communist Party. I was NOT a member of this one.
So, a child was raised an atheist since he was born (unless his grandma was still practicing religion secretly). There were churches in Russia, but only old people were attending them. All this was during the time of Soviet Union, now it is different there.
But what I want to say, is that even in spite of total atheistic atmosphere, all people were saying, “Thanks God”, or “God bless”, or “God forbid” , or “God knows” etc, in everyday talks.
Isn’t it interesting?