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Gods And Teapots - Atheism And Agnosticism Defined

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By David Bowman


Bertrand Russell
Bertrand Russell

In an article entitled 'Is There A God?' (never published, 1952) the famous philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote:

"If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

Many people mistakenly believe that the atheist position is one of certitude about the non-existence of a god, but this is not necessarily the case. I have heard it said that agnosticism is the rational position to take on the existence of a god and that atheism is as dogmatic a position to take as theism, but I think that is a misunderstanding of these terms. Agnosticism deals with claims that we are unable to make definitive judgments on because of a lack of evidence, just as in the case of the celestial teapot. However, agnosticism does not address belief, only knowledge, and could apply to a wide array of claims besides religious ones. In fact, you could be an agnostic and still believe in a god (agnostic theist); so, stating that you are an agnostic doesn't say anything about what you believe. In regard to the question of a personal god, there are really only two categories; you are either a theist (believe in god) or an atheist (don't believe) - there is no middle ground.

Atheism is defined as: "Absense of, or rejection of, belief in the existence of god or gods" (Wiktionary). There are two main categories of atheism: agnostic atheism and gnostic atheism; also referred to as weak atheism and strong atheism, negative atheism and positive atheism, implicit atheism and explicit atheism. Gnostic atheists claim that they know that a god does not exist. Agnostic atheists don't claim to know that a god does not exist but maintain that there is no evidence that one does exist. However, there are certain descriptions of god that one might take the position of a gnostic atheist, and on another, take the position of an agnostic atheist. It all depends on how the god in question is defined.

If someone is uncertain about whether or not they are an atheist, they can employ this very simple test: if you can't make the statement "I believe in a god" you are an atheist. It all hinges on the word believe; which is defined as: "To accept as true" (Wiktionary). If you are doubtful, uncertain or skeptical, but not necessarily convinced of the non-existence of a god, this still means that you haven't "accepted it as true" that one does exist. In other words, you have an "absence of belief" in a god - which is the definition of atheism.

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jrosemond  says:
5 months ago

great hub very informative

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David Bowman  says:
5 months ago

Thanks jrosemond, I appreciate you taking the time to read it.

David  says:
3 months ago

Well, you miss a big point. I can only live in the present moment and speculate on the future, and I can only state at this time that I doubt the existence of a god (One imaginary creature at a time please). Empirically there is no way at this time to find evidence of a god. If next Thursday NASA finds it, then we shall have something then to prove it. It's a matter of locution. You cite examples of science and new discoveries. Fine. Great. But it is an act of belief, not fact to speculate.

You use the word belief. Be careful. A belief is defined as: 1 : a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing. Doubt is defined as: 1. To be undecided or skeptical about: began to doubt some accepted doctrines. And you are wrong about the definition of agnostic too: a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. I looked these all up. Be more careful about the words you use. They have a history and meaning.

Fact, as used by science implies observable evidence, i.e., that may be reproduced and tested over and over again at the present. It is defined as: 1. something that actually exists; reality. Skeptical is defined as: 1. inclined to skepticism; having doubt. Getting back to NASA,, we find that it is not next Thursday so they are still skeptical about the results of their space probe looking for a god. They have a theory and they are testing it, But they don't have the results yet. Big difference.

To summarize my points: 1. I can only live in the present point. 2. I cannot have testable evidence of tomorrow. 3. I know that last week I doubted there is a god and today I still doubt. 4. NASA has a theory that god exists (don't ask why) so they send out a probe into deep space. On next Thursday they announce they found a god sitting on a rock floating in space. They bring the god back and have a press conference. Heres the rub: it's next Thursday! Sorry. You will just have to wait.

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David Bowman  says:
3 months ago

David, I must respectfully disagree with you on the definition of agnostic. Agnosticism is a statement of knowledge (what you know to be true). Atheism and theism are statements of belief (what you currently accept as true). Agnosticism isn't an exclusively religious term; it can be used in reference to almost any subject matter. If someone is asked what stance they take on the existence of God and they say "agnostic", this says nothing about what they currently accept as true. Agnosticism must be coupled with either theism or atheism in order to make one's stance on god's existence clear. Agnosticism is not a middle ground between atheism and theism as is often believed.

http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/ath

I think you're getting a little pedantic about the usage of the word believe. I don't think the definition you cite for believe is the most generally accepted definition. Wiktionary states the definition of believe, as applicable to this particular subject matter, as "To accept as true" or "To consider likely" http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/believe

I suppose I could have worded things differently in the article, but I favor the concept of making things as simple for the reader as possible so as not to confuse the matter unnecessarily. I am, of course, a layman and I don't claim to be otherwise. However, I have studied philosophy and in particular epistemology, so I am fully aware of the distinctions you have pointed out.

I consider myself an agnostic (I don't claim to "know" that no god exists, or in other words, I have no knowledge of a god's existence). However, not knowing for me is also not believing (not accepting it as true) which also makes me an atheist (lacking a belief in a god). So, I am an agnostic atheist.

David, I appreciate you taking the time to read my article and comment.

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David Bowman  says:
3 months ago

David, I should also like to add that, for most intellectually honest atheists, beliefs are always considered tentative. If you showed me evidence that established the existence of a god beyond a reasonable doubt tomorrow, I would change my stance on god's existence. When I say that I don't accept itas true that god exists, the interesting thing you can do with that statement is add the word "yet" at the end.

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