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By Debby Bruck


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HOT TOPIC: Ohio Approves State Smoking Ban

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With almost Fifty-Three Thousand comments on this controversial issue on the TOPIX website people are having their say. The introductory blurb states:

"Ohio voters have approved a ban on smoking in virtually all public buildings. Voters approved the sweeping ban while rejecting a competing measure that would have exempted bars and restaurants, the Cleveland. . ."

Looking at both sides of this issue, we see Freedom Fighters wanting to be able to smoke in public places, such as restaurant, office, pub, work-place, university, etc.

These Freedom Fighters feel it is their right to smoke and enjoy this leisure activity, if it only harms their lungs and themselves. That is their prerogative and will accept the consequences. These people feel an injustice that they could be controlled and removed of their ability to smoke where and when they want to light up and take a puff. They are also very fearful that this is just the beginning of what the government will control in their lives.

The government agencies, with the duty to safe-guard the people, must have felt a need to create a secure place for the non-smokers who either don't like to smoke or are health conscious and know [as stated on the package] smoking is dangerous to your health and may cause...

The people who side with the government decision and the Ohio State's new ruling believe this is just for the safety and health of the majority of people. Not just to set an example to the children, but to have definite action.

Creating this rule will help "clean the air." Both in the environment where people eat, work and meet and also in the physiological bodies of those who would be exposed and inhale the toxic fumes.

Both sides have a point to make. I suppose there remains the option for smokers to meet in each others homes and backyards. [not in cars - see below]


Health Insurance Agencies

The Responsibility Project.
The Responsibility Project.

When To Quit? HOW FAR WILL IT GO?

Lawsuit: Companies Have Option to Fire Employees Who Do Not Smoke At the Office:

  • Investigation Concerning Termination of Smokers And/Or Charging Smokers Higher Healthcare or Disability Premiums.
  • Click the link above to read about two companies that are charging employees higher insurance premiums due to increased cause for health care. Do you think the employees have a right to do this?
  • In 30 states and the District of Columbia, state law makes it illegal for companies to impose smoking bans on their employees when they are off duty.
  • There is a fine line to our civil rights.

Advocacy Groups Try to Ban Smoking in Cars in London

  • They say it is for the sake of the children who are locked in these small quarters filled with second hand cigarette smoke.
  • They are backed with new statistics released by the British Heart Foundation showing that smoking costs the government $8 billion a year. I wonder how many asthmatic children are directly related to households with parents who smoke?

No Smoking Laws in Your Apartment or Dwelling with Adjacent Walls

  • I'm really surprised to learn how far California will go with the ban on smoking
  • Belmont City resident violators face a $100 fine from the city, as well as eviction if smoking violates their lease agreement.

This really gives us something to talk about!

Off Topic: Inspirational Movie That I Did Not Know Health Insurance Agencies Made These Types of Films

  • How Do Parents and Grandparents Effect Their Offspring by what they say and do? A beautiful film.
  • Hysterically funny film about totally irresponsible man who on his 30th birthday decides to do something worthwhile with his life.


Every Action Has A Reaction

Due to the new law we may see a reduction in cigarette smoking and an increase in another industry. All the public buildings will need signage. You can view the variety of signs that people will see every where they go. What a boon for the sign industry.

I'm wondering whether these signs will be ignored just as the Warning Labels on the Cigarette boxes themselves. Humans have a tendency to take notice of some thing that is new in their environment or when something is out of place. I would hypothesize that people will "see" these signs as they are newly posted. They may grumble about or praise the situation. And after a number of months to years, I believe these signs will be virtually invisible as they fade into the common environment.

Hopefully, the children will take note and ask their parents what the signs mean and why the government had to take this regulatory action. They can understand a STOP sign or Traffic Light to keep traffic flowing and allow people to safely cross the streets. How will adults choose to explain the need for logical responsible adults having government taking control of their personal lives? Will they give an analogy about the laws for seat belts? Will this initiate some good discussion around the theme of "responsibility" and "freedom?"

Ohio voters passed Issue 5 on Nov. 7, 2006, creating Ohio’s indoor smoking ban under a new chapter of the Ohio Revised Code (ORC) effective Dec. 7, 2006. This new law requires “public places” and “places of employment” prohibit smoking as of that date. These businesses and organizations must also post “No Smoking” signs that contain the telephone number 1-866-559-OHIO (6446) for reporting violations; and remove ashtrays and other smoking receptacles.

Wikipedia has a varied selection of
Warning Signs from Countries Around the World.


Government Warning Labels Are Rotated:

  • SURGEON GENERAL’S WARNING: Smoking Causes Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Emphysema, and May Complicate Pregnancy.
  • SURGEON GENERAL’S WARNING: Quitting Smoking
    Now Greatly Reduces Serious Risks to Your Health.
  • SURGEON GENERAL’S WARNING: Smoking by
    Pregnant Women May Result in Fetal Injury, Premature
    Birth, and Low Birth Weight.
  • SURGEON GENERAL’S WARNING: Cigarette Smoke
    Contains Carbon Monoxide.

A personal story: It's true, when mothers smoke their infants have low birth weight and the child is born addicted to nicotine throughout their lives and finds smoking exhilerating and relaxing making it difficult to quit.


Cigarette Warning Signs

Government Regulations

  • Senate Republican leader files for divorce from lobbyist wifeSt. Petersburg Times3 days ago

    TALLAHASSEE Senate Republican leader Alex Diaz de la Portilla wants a divorce, and he says the assets accumulated during his six-year marriage to a Tallahassee lobbyist should be equally distributed.

  • How to win 'Tar Wars'CNN2 days ago

    I'm proud to say I live in a state that has taken tobacco control seriously, and gotten some serious results. Through hard work and constant effort, Indiana has cut our high school student smoking rates dramatically. Unfortunately, we still have the second-highest rate of adult smoking in the country.

  • In the crosshairs: illegal gun traffickersQueens Chronicle1 second ago

    An array of firearms were seized during a raid in Bayside in May. A new bill is designed to make it more difficult to bring them into the city in the first place.

Home Fire Safety

U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission Washington, D.C. 20207
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission Washington, D.C. 20207

Going Federal: Who Has Control?

WASHINGTON, June 11, 2009 (UPI) -- The U.S. Senate voted 79-17 Thursday to pass a bill that would toughen tobacco laws, including authorizing the Food and Drug Administration to regulate tobacco.

Among other things, the Family Smoking and Tobacco Control Act would give the federal government the power to regulate cigarette ingredients, ban the marketing of "light cigarettes" and require graphic warning labels, The Washington Post reported...

Times are changing with the changing of the guard. President Obama and the new government agencies in power feel that stricter controls must be set into place. I'm sure the "smoke-filled" discussion rooms are fuming with ideas and controversy. How much control should government take on these issues?

With Health Care being top on the list, one way to reduce hospital and medical costs is to PREVENT acute and chronic illness. It has been determined, and every body knows, that smoking effects asthmatics and the respiratory system and causes emphysema, lung disease and cancer. Cause and effect. Simple.

Anxiety is also rampant. And smoking can calm nerves and reduce anxiety for those who love to smoke. What say you? How can we weigh the argument? Are there other ways to relieve anxiety before going to a social event, performing in public, or taking a test? Will people end up becoming obese from over-eating instead of lighting up? When does government leave off and people take control?

Enjoyment in smoking. Many people love a cigarette after sex, in the morning, with coffee, after a good meal, while relaxing on a walk, etc. I don't think this law takes those pleasures away, except if people are in a public place.

Home fires. I remember reading somewhere about the number of fires started from people who smoked in bed. Houses have been destroyed along with lives of entire families due to these events. Government would definitely be stepping over the line if they decided to ban all smoking, even in the privacy of one's home. However, with the new laws in place we may see a reduction in smoking in a new generation and possibly those already addicted. A side effect would be a reduction in home fires.

Smokeless Tobacco Also Unhealthy

The government now regulates smoking because it is considered a drug and is addictive.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has asserted that cigarettes and smokeless tobacco should be considered nicotine delivery devices. Nicotine, the active ingredient in tobacco, is inhaled into the lungs, where most of it stays. The rest passes into the bloodstream, reaching the brain in about 10 seconds and dispersing throughout the body in about 20 seconds.

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, however smokeless tobacco will not effect other people and thus is not banned from public places. Wasn't there a time in America when Spitting was banned?

Smokeless Tobacco and Kids

I highly suggest you read the PDF file linked abover written by the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. I wonder whether this new ban on smoking will turn children to another vice.They say the past 40 years has seen a huge shift in usage from older men to young men and boys. Chewing snuff type products leads to many more diseases of the mouth, lining of the esophogus, skin and lungs. The major problem is that beginning with smokeless tobacco leads to smoking cigarettes within four years.

SPECIAL REPORT: Smokeless Candy for Children

Made by the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., the lozenge-like Camel Orb is being test-marketed in Columbus, Ohio, Portland, Ore., and Indianapolis.


New Package Design in the U.K.

Fatal equals Death. Do you sit up and take notice or shrug it off? Do you say "That's not going to happen to me!"
Fatal equals Death. Do you sit up and take notice or shrug it off? Do you say "That's not going to happen to me!"

World Trend

Don't think that this ban on smoking applies just to the United States or her individual states as one by one they vote in more regulation. Other countries are either ahead of us or will follow soon.

As people throw caution to the wind and continue to smoke for so many understandable reasons, psychologists find ways to intercept the addictive thinking patterns.

Package Design Study Shows Results

  • Adult smokers in Mexico were asked to bid in an auction on two packs of cigarettes
  • One pack had a text warning and the other had text plus graphic imagery
  • The pack with the graphic image had a mean attributed value which was 17% lower ($3.21 pesos) than the pack with the text-only warning, and this difference remained statistically significant within subgroups defined by sociodemographics, amount of smoking, number of quit attempts, and levels of perceived smoking risks.

We know how every day things in our environment do not effect us. The text messages were not making a difference in our actions, so they implemented gross images of diseased lungs to make an impact. Do you think this will make a difference, even for a short while? Take a look at the pictures English smokers will face when the new product design is completely in place by the end of 2009.

I think young children are very concerned about their health today and it may delay or keep them from starting to smoke. Does any parent really want their child to smoke?

Expert Dr. Robert Schwebel authors book on substance-abuse prevention.

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Smokeless Tobacco is not Safe Tobacco

Smokeless Candy is Not An Answer

  • Event informs about tobacco's dangers - The News Record

    Event informs about tobacco's dangers The News Record The table also had pamphlets providing information on the risks of hookah and smokeless tobacco as well as local help resources in the Hamilton County area. ... and more » - 4 weeks ago

  • Ohio's smoking rates may be on the rise - Springfield News Sun

    Ohio's smoking rates may be on the rise Springfield News Sun RJ Reynolds spokesman David Howard dismissed allegations that the new smokeless tobacco products are aimed at children. “That is completely false. ... and more » - 4 weeks ago

NPR: Non-Smokers Suffer Lung Cancer Stigma

Did you catch this story? June 2009 NPR show informs listeners that thousands of non-smokers are diagnosed with lung cancer, a majority are women. I feel this program needed to ask more questions than the simple statement. I understand it was bringing to public awareness this fact, but we need to ask how can this happen?

Science News: Why Do Some Lifelong Nonsmokers Get Lung Cancer? Studies show the majority of lung cancers are related to smoking and approximately 16,000 to 24,000 lung cancer deaths each year are due to other factors.

Why Non-Smokers Get Lung Cancer

  • radon
  • secondhand smoke
  • asbestos
  • radiation therapy
  • combustion products
  • other carcinogens

Science News: Good Diet and Gardening Linked To Lower Lung Cancer Risk

To bring some light on the subject. Here is a positive action we can take to lower risk.

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Tom Cornett profile image

Tom Cornett  says:
6 months ago

Smoking will soon become a thing of the past. Then...the focus will be on obiese people....then on alcahol.....then on any unhealthy lifestyle. As people progress to living longer...the government will then finally execute a life limit because the healthy populous does not want to support the old and feeble.

The goverment could really care less if we all dropped dead tonight. It is about shifting money and power.....nothing more or less.

The Ohio governor just transferred 600 milion dollars of the smoking tax money to the general fund. This money is supposed to help people quit and curb teen smoking which is a good thing.

You wrote a good hub here....thanks! :)

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Hi Tom - Really appreciate your comments. I do agree that power and money go hand in hand. I'd like to see some positive outcome even if it comes through unethical reality. I have to believe there are people in this world that care about each other.

Paper Moon profile image

Paper Moon  says:
6 months ago

Damn, I am going to be an outlaw again.

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Does this mean you will be smoking in your very own apartment, home or car? Well, shiver me timbers.

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Tom - PS. Thank you so much for rating this hub!

Tom Cornett profile image

Tom Cornett  says:
6 months ago

Debby...I, like you believe there are people who care....they are a thinning line of protection though. Millions of people are losing their homes because our legislators were enjoying perks from loan shark lobbyists.

Big tobacco is coughing but still laughing all the way to the bank. Our past and current governments have constructed enough nuclear warheads to kill the entire earth. This one bothers me the most.

The powerful pharmaceutical companies have been given a free reign to manipulate and addict the population to their products. Look in any elderly person's medicine cabinet.

Incompetence is rampant in local, state and federal government. The system is failing because most of the people who run the system are unqualified and totally selfish.

Rome is falling again....we let them do it.

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Tom - once again we agree. My webpage is advocacy for those who promote homeopathy. I believe the internet has given the people power to change the world. It's just a matter of uniting and using this means of communication to force government to hear our message. It's happening now in Iran with the protests in the streets. We must not be afraid to stand up for our rights and beliefs. Do not give up hope. The medical system is dying, the education system is failing, the pharmaceutical's underhanded dealings are being uncovered, and politicians are playing politics - but transparency is the word of the day.

There are ordinary citizens making a difference as we see the systems crumble all around us. Let's hope it is not too late. Be the one who voices his opinion and stands out in a crowd.

Tom Cornett profile image

Tom Cornett  says:
6 months ago

Thanks Debby....there is hope. The United States is a wonderful country with many wonderful people.....these people are the hope. We will be in the streets soon.....it will come......we will triumph again.

Rome fell....not Italy. :)

Mighty Mom profile image

Mighty Mom  says:
6 months ago

It seems CA is way ahead of other states in this smoking issue. We've had smoke free public places for years. I believe they are trying to make beaches smoke free also.

It's a thin line between personal choice and responsibility and public protection. As a kid, both my parents smoked filterless Pall Malls. They smoked in the car with us in it. We didn't know about second-hand smoke back then. They didn't know about the toxicity of cigarettes -- or maybe the industry did and hushed it up.

But now we do know. I can see banning it in public places, but to say you cannot smoke in your own car or your own apartment -- that's a bit too Big Brother for my taste.

Also agree with Tom's excellent observations about government ineptitude and the pharma industry.

Great hub! Glad I found it! MM

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Dear Mighty Mom with open arms - I am also glad you found this hub. It's not my typical topic, but I was enervated by the controversy and even within myself I cannot exactly draw the line. I would not want to be the little kid stuck in the car full of smoke. Choke-Cough-Cough!

I have my beef with Big-Pharma, Big-Brother, War-Machines, Drug-Addiction and all the negatives in this world. We have to pick our fights carefully.

Wishing you peace and harmony in California.

Little Debby

hsofyan profile image

hsofyan  says:
6 months ago

Problems cigarettes into dilemma, from the first until now

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Hi hsofyan - you may have to translate your poetry for me. Are you saying from the beginning of time this has been a dilemma? Or from the first time someone lights up?

Tom Rubenoff profile image

Tom Rubenoff  says:
6 months ago

Great article, Debbie, sure to spark debate as indeed it already has!

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Hi Tom ~ So nice of you to visit. How have you been lately?

Connie Smith profile image

Connie Smith  says:
6 months ago

While I agree that smoking is harmful, I don't agree with the government's right to issue a broad decree of no smoking in public places that are not government property -- as long as it remains legal to smoke, that is. This issue was sorting itself out with "no smoking" establishments before these type of bans came along. People simply choose -- or not -- to enter those establishments. If enough non-smokers choose not to enter, soon the owners would reconsider. This is definitely big brother to me. Also, if the government really wanted smokers to quit, wouldn't all that tobacco money they got have been put to good use, as in making available the tools to quit smoking free: nicotene patches, gums, Chantix, Zyban....otherwise, just outlaw tobacco altogether and let us all go cold turkey!

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Excellent comment Connie. Wouldn't it be a real switch if RJReynolds and other cigarette manufacturers took an interest in the health of consumers and REALLY TRULY made amends from the years of causing cancer, emphesema, etc with their medicated, chemically filled smoking products? How could they do that? By changing their product line to something healthful. By really saying, "I'm sorry" does not mean to continue bad behavior. "Turning a New Leaf", you might say.

How about since they are expert in their product, using that information to create non-addictive programs. Take all the profits and build clinics to help people mend relationships, improve family life, clean up the environment so everyone can fresh air, build summer camps for troubled teens, etc. Wow! There is so much they can do to better the world with their money and start a campaign telling the truth about smoking.

Instead, they are finding ways to infiltrate the community when times are stressful with chewing tobacco, and nicotine candy. Who knows someone affiliated with the big tobacco companies that could touch their hearts and start some ethical behavior?

Connie Smith profile image

Connie Smith  says:
6 months ago

Debby, I doubt that the tobacco companies are going to give away all their profits, but still....quite a few years ago, Florida jumped on the "sue the tobacco companies" bandwagon and got $13 Billion. Not one penny of that money went to smokers who want to quit, yet don't have the funds to buy the aids that they need. Sure, many people will say that they could give up the cigarettes and be able to afford them, but I am talking about the poor here. Where is their nicotine patches and gum, their Chantix? That showed me that the tobacco suits were all about putting a bit more money into the general fund.

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

I'm not asking the tobacco companies to give away any money. I'm asking them to redirect their focus from one of producing a product that is harmful to health, costs individuals their lives and governments millions/billions in medical care. What could they do? They can create facilities of Health, where people can pay to attend seminars, clinics, rehabiliation. This way the tobacco companies can 'rehabilitate' their own name of purpose on earth.

Maybe they can do research and development into find ways that tobacoo products can be used as natural pesticides/herbicides. They must think in creative ways that improve the earth.

Dolores Monet profile image

Dolores Monet  says:
6 months ago

Debby, interesting and iformative hub. One of the worst things about banning smoking in bars is that all the smokers stand around outside and throw their cigarette butts all over the sidewalk. Maybe it's a protest.

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Hi Dolores ~ I like to think of both sides of the picture. What are the benefits and risks to our actions? How can we improve and make things better in a gentle way? How can we assuage the people's revolt by finding solutions? What ideas can smokers develop in 'group think tanks' to this problem? It sure seems like bars go hand-in-hand with smoking.

ecigs4u profile image

ecigs4u  says:
6 months ago

there is a way around the smoking ban.. check this out

http://hubpages.com/hub/buy-e-cigarettes-online

Debby Bruck profile image

Debby Bruck  says:
6 months ago

Hello ecigs4u ~ I hope people will use these Electronic-Cigarettes as a tool to reduce and quit smoking. I suppose everything on earth can be used for beneficial or harmful purposes. Even though they do not have the traditional additives, the thought of inhaling those other chemicals does not sound appetizing nor is it harmless. 

". . . electronic cigarettes do not actually burn any tobacco, but rather, when you inhale from an e-cigarette, you activate a "flow censor" which releases a water vapor containing nicotine, propylene glycol, and a scent that simulates the flavor of tobacco. All of which simply means that electronic cigarettes allow you to get your nicotine fix while avoiding all of the cancer causing agents found in traditional cigarettes such as tar, glue, hundreds of additives, and hydrocarbons."

Nicotine is an addictive harmful substance and propylene glycol is a harmful preservative. When they say "scent" that does not tell you the whole story of the composite chemicals. 

Thank you so much for visiting this hub and bring the e-cigarettes to Hubbers' attention. 

anthonythorny profile image

anthonythorny  says:
5 weeks ago

Quit smoking, if not for ourselves, do it for the innocent children.

-anthony

Get Free Visitors  says:
10 days ago

charmfull

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