Orijen Adult Formula Dry Dog Food - Healthy Dog Foods? Pet Food Danger Gauge
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Ask Susan Peters Other Sites Of Interest:
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Pet Food Danger Gauge - Worth 30 Points
Orijen Adult Formula Dry Dog Food Rating
- Animal Digest -
- Animal Fat - Minus 1 point = chicken fat, salmon and anchovy oils
- Artificial Flavors/Colors -
- Beet Pulp/Pea Fiber/ Potato - Minus 1 point = russet potato
- BHA/BHT -
- Brewers Yeast/Brewers Rice -
- By-Products -
- Cellulose -
- Class Action -
- Corn -
- Ethoxyquin -
- Fermentation Products - Minus 1 point = Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.
- Flavor - Minus 1 point = natural chicken flavour
- Garlic/Grapes/Avocados/Nuts -
- Gluten -
- Hydrochloric Acid -
- Meat -
- Millet -
- Miscellaneous - Minus 1 point = sun-cured alfalfa, tomatoes, apples, choline chloride
- Oats -
- Pet Food Recalls -
- Phosphoric Acid -
- Potassium Chloride -
- Propylene Glycol -
- Salt - Minus 1 point = sea salt
- Sodium Selenite -
- Soy -
- Wheat -
- White Rice -
Orijen Adult Formula Dry Dog Food Rating
Pet Food Danger Gauge 80% - Dangerous and Toxic To Pets
Healthy Dog Foods Total Score = 24/30
Pet Food Danger Gauge 80% - Dangerous and Toxic To Pets
Animal Fats - Used to encourage a pet to eat ingredients they normally would not eat. Ingestion may lead to gastrointestinal upset or even pancreatitis. This can be a very painful condition for dogs. In addition, most companion animals do not need extra fat in their diets.
Potatoes - cheap filler, much like the use of beet pulp. Can be dangerous to pets depending on the condition of the potatoes. Contain oxalates, which can affect the digestive, nervous, and urinary systems. This is more of a problem in livestock. Potato Peelings and Green Potatoes (Contain Oxalates, which can affect the digestive, nervous, and urinary systems.)
Fermentation Products - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Sugars are the common substrate of fermentation, and typical examples of fermentation products are ethanol, lactic acid, and hydrogen. However, more exotic compounds can be produced by fermentation, such as butyric acid and acetone. Yeast carries out fermentation in the production of ethanol in beers, wines and other alcoholic drinks, along with the production of large quantities of carbon dioxide. Grain fermentation solubles are an inexpensive by-product of human food and beverage production which add little or no nutritional value to pet foods. Alcohols can cause the same damage to an animal's liver and brain as they cause in humans. But the effects can be deadly on animals since they are much smaller than us. The smaller the animal, the more deadly the effects can be. Even a small amount of alcohol may cause vomiting and damage the liver and brain.
Salt - If eaten in large quantities it may lead to electrolyte imbalances, severe electrolyte imbalances can lead to muscle spasm or even congestive heart failure.
Tomato Pomace - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Tomato pomace is an inexpensive by-product of tomato manufacturing. Effectively, it is what is left-over after processing tomatoes for juice, ketchup, soup, etc. It is sometimes used in pet and livestock food manufacturing as a source of dietary fiber, as well as B vitamins, and (to a lesser extent) vitamin A. As the primary component of tomato pomace is the tomato skin, it has the potential for higher amounts of pesticide residues than tomatoes themselves. Tomato stems are very toxic to cats and dogs. Contain oxalates, which can affect the digestive, nervous, and urinary systems. This is more of a problem in livestock. Green parts of Tomatoes or Green Potatoes (Contain oxalates, which can affect the digestive, nervous, and urinary systems.)
Choline chloride is mass produced and is an important additive in feed especially for chicken where it accelerates growth. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Natural Flavor. I always like the way pet food companies hide the use of manure in the ingredients. Natural flavor is made from the manure of the animal the pet food company wants the pet food to taste like. If natural flavor were an actual part of the ingredients then natural flavor would not have to be listed as a separate ingredient. From FDA reports.
Natural Flavors as defined by the FDA With respect to flavors, pet foods often contain "digests," which are materials treated with heat, enzymes and/or acids to form concentrated natural flavors. Only a small amount of a "chicken digest" is needed to produce a "Chicken Flavored Cat Food," even though no actual chicken is added to the food. Stocks or broths are also occasionally added. Whey is often used to add a milk flavor. Often labels will bear a claim of "no artificial flavors." Actually, artificial flavors are rarely used in pet foods. The major exception to that would be artificial smoke or bacon flavors, which are added to some treats. http://www.fda.gov/cvm/petlabel.htm
Animal digest. AAFCO doesn't care that manure is included in the pet food as long as the temperature at the time of cooking is brought to a certain degree.
Now there are those people out there who simply refuse to believe a pet food company would use manure in their pet's foods. Let me ask you to think on this issue for just a minute and then see what you decide. Let's take a person, for instance, When a person begins the "digestion" process food is placed in the mouth for chewing. Digestion continues as the food passes to the stomach and is broken down to pass into the intestines for further digestion. Digestion is complete once the person has had a bowel movement and fully evacuated the food from the human body. Why would obtaining animal digest be any different from human digest?
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Comments
Mr.Smithster,
Do you work for Orijen? I am very interested in taking a tour of the facility of Orijen. You are very right that I clump all the foods together, assuming the potatoes are not properly pealed and taken care of. Have you visited the plant yourself or have first hand knowledge of what goes on in this plant?
I have seen tons of art work for a number of companies which makes a company and the products they produce look really good. Like, McDonald's Happy Meals and tons of pet food products.
I, for one, would love to support Orijen. If you have any first hand knowledge of the works of this company please let me know - I am very interested in this information.
Susan
I don't get it. Why are there 2 totally different rating for the same dog food. one rates orijen adult dog food as 9/10. this one rates as 24/30 and 80% danger gauge.
This site and woman are nuts. Its good its bad it kill its 9/10. WTF?
First you says its bad and they use garbage and then you say you want a tour to see how its made. Dont you know? You just stated it was bad so you must know?
You are talking out your azz and what will happen is you will trick someone into buying a bad food and running away from a good dog food with your stupid ratings.
Why do you sell the same crappy food you say will kill our pets???????
This site must be bogus.. I cannot fathom any responsible, aware dog owner and caretaker would be this bias and blind concerning dog food and nutrition.
What are your credentials, AskSusanPeters?
I think you should take your own advice and VISIT the facilities that make a premium, trusted kibble before you try to taint their reputation.
I stand firmly behind Wellness and Orijen, and no, I do not work for either.
Those reading this site, please do so with a LARGE grain of SALT - it is twisted and puffed information, meant I assume to confuse and belittle rather than help and rectify the concerns of kibble today.
Please, first of write this type of "desinformation" you must recopilate good info, your free opinion is not sufficient. Dog's food is a very important theme to me and i had read a lot about Orijen. All your article in contrary to all i had read at this time. Why no one is Ok with your opinion? That is very strange. Will you apport ánalisis or more info from a laboratory?. Have you any good or solid inform based in analisis?. Im very interested. Thanks. Sorry for my english, and greetings from Spain.
Oh, forget to ask. If it is a bad food, why do you sell it??
This site is a complete joke for numerous reasons-many listed by previous posts. The fact that Orijen is rated twice with completely conflicting reviews should set off alarms in your head. I would put money on the fact that Susan is trying to build up this site to get free products from companies and get rewarded for bias reviews.
I actually started laughing when I was reading the "toxic" levels of all the top rated foods like Orijen, Wellness, Evo, Taste of THe Wild, etc. Enjoy the AD revanue as I'm sure traffic from this site will slow to a crawl once people actually read a few of the "reviews" here, Just google dog food reviews in google and stick with the first site listed. :)
Would love to give you a tour of our facility,please follow link to schedule a tour or just drop by anytime.
suggest you read two things - Orijens own web site and go to www.dogfoodanalysis.com. It is the best objective, independent analysis of dog foor i can find. The conflicting "opinions" in this site are ridiculous and not very well informed. dogfoodanalysis.com rates Orijens a 6 star rating (on 1-6 scale). i have just started feeding Orijens Puppy to my 9 week old German Shepherd and my 2 year old GSD is starting on Orijens Adult.
I'd also say that these are my 4th and 5th GSD's and before I was not very well informed on dog food. Most vets seem to recommend Science Diet or Iams and that's what my GSD's ate. And all of them lived to between 11 and 12 years of age. Maybe the whole premium dog food is a little overrated but it shocked me when I learned a lot more about dog nutrition and digestion and found that most commercial dog foods are junk, including Science Diet.
I'll gladly pay the premium for a premium quality food like Orijens or Blue Wilderness.
I agree with all the replies. Origen is an excellent food for all breeds and ages of dogs. It has quality ingredients and you should do your research before printing this crap and scaring all the easily influenced people into terror.
My dog does excellent on the origen diet and i encourage everyone not to listen to this lady.
Thanks for all of the informative comments. We have an 8 week old bulldog/boxer puppy and we are thinking seriously about starting her on Orijens dog food. I was scared after reading this review, but I am glad that I was able to read all the comments from people with 'acutal' experience with this dog food. From other sources I have found this food to be very good for all dogs, and more like their natural diet would be without human interuption.
This women is either mentally slow, or shes bought off by some cheap Big name dog food brand... People like her should be banned from posting anything to do with dogs.... Check out the one post where she experimented with tons of crap dog food to see the results and what if any it would have on her dog..... But I guess Dumb people will always take the advice of other Dumb people
so Susan... did you visit the Orijen facilities?
Find another hobby....
I've read all of these AskSusanPeters dogfood reviews, and I regard them as worthless. There's no perfect commercial food, many are awful, and some pricey ones are deceptive or a ripoff -- but her reviews are full of self-taught bad science, misinfo and generalizations. Among other things:
-- She misinterprets ingredients data, and is so unbright as to cite Wikipedia as a "free encyclopedia"/authority. But Wiki isn't a legit encyclopedia: Its entries are often error-ridden, incomplete or misleading, since nearly anyone can sign on to create or edit the content.
-- She robotically applies a point-scoring formula (with Wiki's help), yet misses significant issues. Among them - her "healthy brands" include one brand that's linked to a rendering plant, and another that's packed by the dreaded Menu Foods.
-- She bases her conclusions on whim -- like "I feel" that food shouldn't contain added sodium; or anecdote -- like "my readers report" than XYZ food "isn't providing good nutrition," based on their garbage-scarfing. [Frankly, my dogs have reacted poorly to, or been hungry despite, some hands-down excellent foods: It just didn't sit well with them. In fact, one of Susan's top-rated brands consistently gives one of my dogs diarrhea -- which I attribute to "that's life" and potluck, not to a brand defect!]
In doing the above, she misses the forest for the trees and worsens people's anxieties -- but either for the wrong reasons, or w/o giving them effective guidelines.
There are some good petfood-rating sites out there -- but this ain't one of them.
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Jay45--
AMEN!! When I first started looking at a few of her reviews, I was dismayed, & confused, then I got angry. There should be some way of flagging/rating reviews and hubs to tip people off beforehand. A person shouldn't be allowed to just dump mass quantities of garbage & misinformation here just to generate a few bucks; it's wrong.
im so glad to see smart people fighting against the missinformed or payed off or quite possibly just dumb? half of the claimes are just false in the review and the other half make no sense, this is a very good dog food and it has been proven by scientists who have analyzed it.
please just explain how a 9/10, 24/30 food is 80% poisonous!
I'm really confused!
I'm glad I found this particular page. I must admit I'm amazed that everyone here is aware of Susan Peters' discrepancies, as is not the case on so many of her pages, unfortunately. I am currently in a disagreement with someone on another of Peters' Hub Pages regarding her credibility. I have used quite a few posts from this page to help prove my point that Peters is causing nothing more than confusion with her contradictory, unsound ratings. I directed readers to come here and see for themselves since this page is 100% in disagreement with Peters' advice and ratings.
To any of the posters above (and anyone reading this who agrees) who wouldn't mind helping me, by voicing their opinions, please come on over to the page that I am currently posting on because, unlike this page, I seem to be the only one there who feels the way all of you do. Without warnings from other people I'm afraid my numerous posts will be ignored like the "drip, drip, drip" of an annoying faucet! I'd like to post a direct link to the page but, for some reason, the URL won't "copy and paste". The page is:
"Cat Food Review - Cat Food Ratings Dry or Bagged 88"
If you go to the top of the page you are currently on, under "Ask Susan Peters Other Sites of Interest", and click onto "Cat Food Review - Cat Food Ratings" it should bring you to the page. You will find my posts (or rants) more than half way down the page under the name: "Concerned with unprofessional opinions on this site". In one of my paragraphs I mention Peters' court case (in which she has tried to sue Natura Pet Foods) without the link because on some hub pages the link worked and on others it didn't. If you are interested in reading this court case, in which Peters lost, here is the link (below). I hope it works after I submit this post. If anyone has picked up on the fact that Susan Peters has nothing good to say about any products produced by Natura Pet Foods (Innova, Evo, California Natural, Healthwise, Mother Nature and Karma) this could very well be the reason. Which poses a good case for Libel against Peters.
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-cour
Also, (not important but just wanted to mention) in another paragraph (relating to her court case) I was confused about pet groomers supplying their clients with pet foods. I wasn't aware groomers, like veterinarians, sold pet food.
To DeenaM,
I felt exactly as you have described when I first started looking at her reviews. You CAN flag HubPages. Go to the top of this page (and every 'AskSusanPeters' HubPage you can) and click onto: "rate or flag this page". It's very tiny and easy to miss but is located just under the Hub Page Title, to the right.
To Jay45,
Yes... "AMEN". I don't think anyone could explain how Susan Peters is operating this site as well as you have. Your post is very important and, if you don't mind, I would like to copy and paste it to as many of Peters' pages as possible (say that ten times fast!). With her hundreds of pages, it would be great if a lot of people were aware of this. BTW, you and I have corresponded on another of her pages and I want to thank you for the valuable websites you referred me and others to:
www.dogfoodanalysis.com and www.thepetfoodlist.com
To Jim Rose,
I have also commented on how she (supposedly) tests dog foods on her own dogs. No one in their right mind, who truly loves their pets, would use them as guinea pigs to report ratings. I seriously don't believe she has any pets and I also believe that "99% or 99/100" (or in Peters rating style - 99% 'and' 1/100) of everything she says is made up as she types... which can be both "toxic and dangerous" to everyone hanging on to her every word.
Sorry about that... I couldn't help myself. I told "Dualienoted" on the other page, whom I'm having a disagreement with, that I would no longer rant and rave about Susan Peters. Instead, I'm trying to stick with showing people "examples" of contradictory ratings as well as proof of her causing more harm than good. One example of this proof (of causing more harm than good) is: Peters is telling people to put 'nutmeg' in homemade recipes for pets... nutmeg affects a dog's central nervous system, may cause tremors, seizures and- in higher quantities- death.
I received this reply (below) from SM a few weeks ago and totally agree. Because of this assumption I believe it would be a great blessing, for the sake of all the pets whose "pet parents" are coming here for advice, if more warnings were posted that Susan Peters is unqualified in pet nutrition and potentially causing more harm than good:
SM says:
2 weeks ago
"Concerned..., I also hope people are flagging her pages, although it seems like most of them are genuinely looking around for good advice as to what to feed their cats (especially new pet owners) and don't realize what she's doing."
... I wish everyone's pets a long and healthy life. If spending my time on these HubPages will help just a few people be warned of potential harm, then it is well worth it. I am a genuine animal lover, this is my ONLY motive for posting. I currently have two rescued dogs and two rescued cats... and two gerbils :o) Including the pets I mentioned, I have had a total of sixteen pets. I have also recently lost two precious, beloved dogs last year within six months of each other, extremely heartbreaking. I miss them terribly :o( I truly love every animal and just want them to be as safe and healthy as can be without mean-spirited people, like the pet food industry (for which this site wouldn't even exist if it were not for them), trying to kill our pets off.
Plz Plz would someone contact a laywer and some of the good pet food companies to see if we can launch a Suit against Mrs Peters
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-cour
Look my friends,... Its Mrs Peters lol.... shes a scammer.. and now shes gonna get sued
When I was reading this, I seriosly though it was a prank written by a slow witted 12 year old with too much time on her hands. I may be correct.
This is the most asinine thing I've read in ages, but I'm curious, if youre bashing one of the best pet foods on the market, in your opinion, what is good food? Let me guess... pedigree?
Here is part of an article written by a legitimate pet food nutritionist regarding pet food ratings. You can read the complete article at:
http://www.dogfoodproject.com/
To find it, go to the homepage of The Dog Food Project. On the menu list, left side, under "Articles", click onto "Five Star Foods". Here is a small part of the article. Please pay attention to number 2 of the three general types of websites that reviews generally appear in.
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Common Fallacies of Dog Food Reviews
In the articles on Ingredients to avoid and Identifying better products, I have already explained what characteristics to look for. In this article I'd like to expand a little bit on actually analyzing dog foods for comparison.
I often see people arguing on various online forums when comparing foods, and of course great points are made, such as type of ingredients used, the extent of variety included, protein and fat percentages and so on.
What saddens me is when dog foods are reviewed and assigned some sort of rating based on a purely arbitrary and often not well researched system. It doesn't help with making decisions based on truly important factors and often causes people to pick one food over another (which may be more suitable for their individual dog) just because it gets a "better" rating.
Reviews generally appear on three different types of websites:
1. ones that sell food products and have a vested interest in steering people towards purchasing certain brands over others,
2. so called "independent" review sites, often plastered full of ads, drawing in as much traffic as possible from often repeated, popular search keywords, which makes me question their true purpose - giving unbiased information, or just maximizing revenue from advertisements?
3. marketing-driven sites that want to sell you print or e-books (at ridiculous prices) that promise to unveil dog food industry "secrets" .
On all of them I've seen some reviews that would actually be funny if it weren't so sad how misguided they actually are and how they can steer dog owners completely wrong.
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... I say, Hub Page readers beware!!!
Just a quick mention to anyone reading this... No. 2 above is exactly what Hub Pages is all about, maximizing revenue from advertisements. If you search "what is a HubPage" you will see this. I wrote to Paul Edmondson, founder of Hub Pages, voicing my concerns as to why a hubber doesn't have to have any credentials on their topics and can pose as a professional if they wish. I told him this website has the potential of becoming an internet train wreck. Of course, he totally ignored me. Susan Peters is a pet groomer from Oklahoma coming here to supplement her income while pretending to be a pet food nutritionist. She has no knowledge on this topic whatsoever. Maybe I'll sign up to HubPages and pose as a brain surgeon, giving advice on how to acquire a brain, or at least some marbles for that brain... and, I could earn money while doing it! Be on the look out for "AskTheBrainSurgeon".
I started this off by saying "just a quick mention", but anyone who has read my posts all over this website knows how much I love to rant and rave... all for the love of animals ;o) My advice to pet food seekers, please go to:
http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/
http://www.consumersearch.com/... with this site, just put "pet food ratings" in the search bar.
http://www.petfoodratings.net/ ... I find this site to be the easiest site to navigate, simple and straight to the point.
http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spring04/Perhach/ ... if this link doesn't work, please search (or 'google'): The truth behind pet food (written and maintained by Paulette Perhach). Awesome site!
These are just a few of the many legitimate sites out there on pet foods.
read her page on home made dog food she says she uses potatoes but on here calls then cheap fillers... This lady will and needs to be sued..... shes a moron
To Jim Rose,
You're right, she constantly contradicts herself.... a HUGE red flag for anyone concerned with her credentials. Susan Peters probably never figured her readers would be skipping back and forth all over her pages putting two and two together. Fortunately, we're not all as stupid as she assumed we would be.
Here we are over a year later, glad to see support for Orijen. And no Sue, I dont work for Orijen. But my dog is still doing fine for eating poison all these years. I just noticed another bogus claim concerning Natural Flavoring. She pulled this out of the FDA website...
Natural Flavors as defined by the FDA With respect to flavors, pet foods often contain "digests," which are materials treated with heat, enzymes and/or acids to form concentrated natural flavors. Only a small amount of a "chicken digest" is needed to produce a "Chicken Flavored Cat Food," even though no actual chicken is added to the food. Stocks or broths are also occasionally added. Whey is often used to add a milk flavor. Often labels will bear a claim of "no artificial flavors." Actually, artificial flavors are rarely used in pet foods. The major exception to that would be artificial smoke or bacon flavors, which are added to some treats.
this has nothing to due with the specific ingredient "natural flavors", but is an overview for foods the claim "chicken flavor" or "beef flavor" as apossed to "chicken dog food" or "beef dog food". She misinterprets the FDA data to reflect her own opinions or maybe just makes this stuff up as she goee along, but she is really wrong on so many things. Glad you all are more informed then she is, its just sad that some will fall for her bs
I started using this food when the dog food scare was on. I was told it was a good food and better for my toy poodles and wouldn't cause any trouble. Well low and behold sortly after I started feeding this food, my dogs came down with ear infections and we just not themselves, I treated the ear infections and yet they did not seem to have the energy they once had. I soon talked with my vet who said the protein was too high and to get them off it because it was depleting their systems of carbs and sugars.
My friends dog started taking seizures and almost died from this food. I have also heard other who have had livers shut down and kidney failure. This food is just a cash cow and was put out without any testing, or any thought, playing on people who were scared to buy anything at the time. This is the worse food I have ever fed my kids and have tried many times to get in touch with these people and they never call you back. My dogs are all fine now and have not been on this crap for over a year now. I have been warning everyone to get their dogs off this before they become sick. This food is not safe for any breed of dog, ask any vet and he will tell you about the increase in these problems due to feeding this food.
Pauline, you really need to ask your vet why a dog needs to be having carbs and "sugars" in its system to begin with (it doesn't); and more to the point how feeding protein to a carnivore 'depletes' sugar and carbohydrates in their body. What a load of nonsense!
That's only true insofar as higher protein and fat = less carbohydrates (%) in the diet. Dogs are perfectly capable of converting protein and fat to energy ('sugar' in the chemical sense) to fuel muscles and cells and don't need to be fed useless grains to achieve it. If you don't believe me pick up any textbook or scientific journal and read about how feeding a dog carbohydrates (instead of protein and fat) causes lactic acid build-up and 'tying up'. Also read how in fact a dog requires ZERO carbs in its diet and performs much better when protein and fat is fed as a fuel source instead of carbs and sugar. Feeding sugar (which is all carbs are) facilitates the development of pancreatitis, diabetes and periodontal disease. Arguably it also facilitates the development of cancers.
You can feed a healthy dog from birth to death (say, 15 years) and never feed it a single speck of carbs or sugar ONCE. Dogs do NOT require carbohydrates or sugar in their diets, period. Don't take my word for it, go and do some learning.
Dogs are designed from the ground up to eat MEAT and FAT (other animals basically), which, guess what, is full of protein not carbs or sugar.
I'm sorry to hear your dog became sick, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't because of Orijen. Actually, please do us all a huge favour. Go back and ask your vet how on God's green earth feeding a diet (Orijen) which is actually lower in protein than boiled fresh chicken on a dry matter basis can cause otitis externa. Tell him you need it in signed and writing so you can cite him as a witness in your lawsuit against Champion Petfoods.
Then watch the colour drain from his face when he can't do that, because it isn't true!! Especially when that same vet will prescribe boiled chicken and rice for a dog with diarrhoea knowing full well such a food is way worse than Orijen. I then suggest you ask for a refund of the monies you've paid to him for past consultations in relation to this matter.
He's talking rubbish. With a long-haired pedigree breed of dog from a small gene pool, I'd be looking more at the shape, structure and hairiness of the inner ear as the cause of a flare-up of otitis externa, not a premium kibble.
Unless you're abusing a human child, I'm presuming by 'kids' you mean animals, ie dogs. Dogs are not people. Dogs are very different from people, and do not have human dietary requirements! Also, vets do not receive more than a lecture or two of nutritional training inside five years of vet school, and even then it's usually supplied by a kibble manufacturer.
I really don't know where to start with your libellous and slanderous post, particularly the serious allegations made in the second half. I hope you have a LOT of independent, certified scientific evidence and lab work to back up your damaging written claims, as I hear the US has a highly litigious society which doesn't take kindly to slander and/or libel which is driving away custom from a business without due cause.
It's a good job Orijen is in Canada and built around a family business of good folks, I suppose. *sigh* This page is full of nonsense.
For the record I'm in the UK, feed mainly raw food (raw meaty bones, whole carcases) which is *gasp* even higher in protein than Orijen! I do however use Orijen as part of my working dogs' diet and they are great. I don't work for Orijen, sell Orijen or have any affiliation to them (outside being a customer) whatsoever. I just can't abide seeing people talk garbage and present it as fact.
Please do come back to us when you've gotten something in writing from your vet, Pauline. Heck, get the same from your friend's vet too about how Orijen almost killed her pet because of how low quality it is. I'm sure we'll all be very interested indeed to see it... LOL
Mr.Smithster says:
16 months ago
Is this a joke or what? this is not good info. disregard this info. she is badly mis-informed. she uses generalities to put ingredients in bad catagories. examples...she lists all potatoes as having potatoes skin or being green or with stems. gee, think maybe some manufacturers use ripe, cleaned, skinned, no stem potatoes? not her, she assumes all manufacturers use only green, non-skinned, stemmy potatoes. or she claims fermented additives are all bad, they are not. they are some of the best stuff any living thing can consume. they are simply probiotics-good bactria, which consumes bad bactria. but she paints all food makers and ingredients with the same broad brush. to bad as some probably belive this drivel. Orijen is made in Canada, with all ingredients procured from Canada only. they will let you in for a tour if you want. you can see for yourself this is not the same type manufacturer as most pet foods. they make their own foods in house, no overseas ingredients. the CBC did a show that recorded the Orijen factory making pet food. she should watch it. for slamming almost every good quality dog food listed, she sure offers alot of them for sale. most of this is worthless info, some info is correct, but to much is wrong to recoomend this for acuate info. please, before beliving the info she states, well inform yourselfs. there is lots of GOOD info on pets foods on the web...just not here. newer research is showing dogs need a much higher meat protein percentage than previously thought. Orijen is 70% meat and meat meals. with approx 45%protein. most pet foods are less than 25% meat and with less than 30% protein(and these get their protein from grains like corn,wheat, glutin, etc...if this is poison how has my dog lived for 18 years on the stuff? they have been selling dog food in Canada for over 25 years with great reviews from the owners and researchers of dog nutrition in Canada.