Our Universe, A Black Hole
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A black hole is caused when a neutron stars mass becomes so dense that it collapses in on itself.
A neutron star is an extremely small star, maybe a 10 kilometer radius, whose density is about 100 million tones per cubic centimeter. They very, but this is what a neutron star is like. So you can imagine how dense this tiny star is, and how much power this compact little itsy bitsy star can generate.
The Event Horizon is the line of light outside the black hole in which we are able to see the black hole as it is gobbling up everything in it's path. It's the lights wall of death, turn right and get sucked in, nothing escapes a black hole.
Black holes are said to be round and do not orbit other celestial objects so they free orbit space itself collecting whatever comes into it's gravity field which changes according to it's mass. The more it collects the more powerful it becomes.
Our Universe must be an extremely dense black hole that has collected all of what we know about space itself.
My theory of the Universe
Our Universe is round, more likely a black hole.
The theory right now is that the Universe is expanding and the farther out we go the faster it seems to be expanding. I personally disagree.
I believe that our Universe is a black hole and to the contrary, I believe that when our singularity of a neutron star collapsed, it didn't actually explode or implode. Instead the weight became so massive and hot that it simply started to sink into the fabric of space-time.
Our Universe is interconnected by strings in every which way, like taking a piece of cloth and putting it in a cup and dropping rocks into it, the more weight that gets adds, the more it pulls the fabric down with it.
So the Event Horizon isn't so much the line between life and death, but rather the light cones that were connected to the fabric of space itself is being pulled down like a magically extending string of light that was always attached to the neutron star.
Our Universe is not expanding. Think of it as our Falling Universe, a black hole in which case the father we fall the more massive our gravity becomes sucking in new celestial objects which gives us the appearance of an expanding Universe, but what we are actually doing is becoming more massive, more dense. Or in other words, our Universe has always been retracting. All that has been connected to our universal plain will always be attached to it. So to then, the more massive we become the faster we fall, which creates the illusion that the further we look into space, the faster it seems to go.
Of couse there is dispute of absolute infinity but to find an end to the means of space...I think we are better off concluding that the Universe is a black hole and we are continuously being refined and recycled into space.
So if you ever wondered what was on the otherside of a black hole, we look at it all the time. If I had to guess, I would say that a black circle shown by the event horizon puts a twist on space fabric, as though there are many lineages of space fabric and the only way to connect to another parallel is to become so heavy that it will pull space fabric down to it.
Our Universe is falling and the matter attached to our fabric sheet is attached to every partical, every matter, every light cone, like an intricatly woven pattern, nothing lost, nothing gained.
While we are spiraling down the worm hole of our Universal black hole, I would expect that at some time in the extremely distant futher, that everything will eventually again become even hotter and more dense and rip once more into our space maze.
I would say, we need another name for the Universe, if in fact, we are sitting in a black hole. Or we could call it, The Universe Absolute Constant or TUAC.
The black hole settles
Our Universe black hole settles down on the next plain of space fabric. As it settles it gets laid out in the order in which it was sucked down.
Now imagine that cloth that was held over a cup, that had the rocks dropped into it finally reaches the bottom and the fabric starts to not unfold put sprawl out to its original shape, like covering a table, an added layer of space.
As it settles over the next Universal plain of fabric its weight comes over a less dense part of the fabric and then it stars again, now pulling both plains with it. Like water, it dips down according to it's weight, absorbs its surroundings and becomes the surface.
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Internet baby! It's easy to find these pictures when you know what to look for. Thanks for reading LisaG. x's
The NASA site, or other astronomy/space website?
Doyee, what was I thinking. Thanks Walker. :)
I knew it would be interesting. Thanks for the trip through, the Black Hole.
That was great, and loved the pics.
These theories are very difficult to understand atleast for me.i cannt understand.
I've never heard the 'universe as block-hole' theory before. Interesting. I know that there are supposedly millions of black-holes IN the universe.
Some astronomers believe the universe to be shrinking, due to the existence of black holes - as they're absorbing everything around them. This makes sense to me. If you follow that theory to his eventual conclusion, you wind up with one giant black hole, sucking in the whole known cosmos, black holes and all. The mass becomes so incredible that, what do we have? Another Big Bang. The birth of another cosmos. Then the whole process starts all over again.
It boggles my mind to wonder; How many times this must have happened: Billions, trillions, numbers we cannot fathom. How many more times will it repeat?
Deep stuff.
Walker: I wonder how many times this has happened too. It really woudn't in the slightest suprise me if we have lived all over the cosmos but never knew it.
If there was a way to determind which way was exactly up, in the Cosmos, we could probabaly see which lineage we are going to next. It's pretty a pretty increadable place we live in though ehh? Thanks for the comments.
And thanks for reading everyone, hugs and blesssin's.
Your theory is certainly very original and since nothing is really "carved in stone", as they say, who knows?Personally I still favor the current evaluation of an accelerating universe. That includes all the galaxies, black holes, neutron stars and everything else. It falls in very well with the laws of thermodynamics and the inevitable heat death that must result from maximum entropy.heat death The eventual dispersion of all of the energy within a physical system to a completely uniform distribution of heat energy, that is, to maximum entropy. Heat death for all macroscopic physical systems, including the universe, is predicted by the Second Law of Thermodynamics.As the universe continues to expand, all the matter and energy will move toward a state of uniformity. It will eventually become inert. A preponderance of evidence gathered by highly trained specialists over a long period of time really does indicate that the universe is still expanding and at an accelerating speed. Having said that, of course tomorrow, new evidence may be found that gives credence to your black hole theory. That’s the beauty of science; while remaining open to the spiritual and able to change when reality requires, it seeks truth in the form of FACTS rather than the blind immovable dogma of organized religion.
True, I think the second law of thermodynamics will still prevail, I don't really see a way to dispute it, but maybe it will happen just a little differently.
I also figure if the Universe is actually falling, it could be the cause of dark energy. I think it would also give some insight as to why space itself stays at a -450 c.
-450C?
Please check here: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/astronomy/faq/part4/secti
As of this time there is no consistent temperature of space. Once maximum entropy is reached that may be a different story.Well not according to what I have read and understood, but I did make a mistake it is -450F, or -270C apx.
But this temp. would be in dead areas of space, where the only thing colder then space found this far is the boomerange nebula which is about -457F or -272C.
But hey, if this is true then someone should really alert the the writers of the Universe and let them know that they are giving out false information.
Anyways, it's ok to be good on your theory or the general consensus. I can resolve the universe the way it seems to make more sense to myself. But if you have any ideas of your own, please share, I could be willing to change my mind if you throw something new my way that would make me think.
You seem bent on entropy so of course my idea goes againts the grain. I was hoping I would get a hubber such as you. Thanks.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-temperature-in
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answer
All these links are talking about either an average temperature or the temperature in one very specific area of space.
Ergo, there is no one temperature which can be catagorically applied to the entire universe.
Yeah, it's called space. lol.
What you are talking about is the radiation changing the temp of space in different areas of space. Ergo, I see why you consider there isn't a space temp. uniformity.
I sometimes refere to the Universe as chaos, and what I theorize is that this illusion of entropy you consider is or was already uniformed.
Your a Hawkings fan huh?
Oddly enough, entropy is a component of chaos theory. So, I guess, essentially we have a very similar view of the universe in general.
It's likely. Thanks for posting with me though, I enjoyed it. :)
ColdWarBaby is clearly is scientist... or should be, And amen to your comment regarding religion.
Not a scientist...but I do love science!
Thank you!
Oh gee thanks, I guess I am just chopped liver in my own darn hub. lol
I don't think chopped liver is at all applicable. Your thought process, creativity and originality are clearly exceptional. Maybe filet mignon. Just kidding, I truly appreciate the opportunity to share your thoughts.
So, what's wrong with chopped liver? Some sauteed onions, not over-cooked, please. Some nice seasonings. Maybe with some mashed potatoes on side? Yes, please. Green beans? Oh, I don't know. Are they fresh? I don't really like canned.
Wait a mintue... who was chopped liver, again? Oh, that's right. Well, why is she chopped liver? I don't get it. Of all the things someone could be, why chopped liver? Why not a nice princess, or something like that?
Oy, kids these days...
It's been nearly fifty years since I was a "kid"!
Oy!
Kidding aside; Sandra, are you a scientist, astronomy hobbyist?
naa, I just have an ego, lol.
Wow, awesome hub. I heard one theory that the universe is continually expanding so if our universe is a black hole that would make sense. If our universe is a black hole absorbing everything yet falling through that means it is constantly changing itself and probably as a means of self renewal.
The black hole settles picture resembles a chalice. Hmm...That chalice reminds me of something, the Holy Grail. That chalice had inexhaustible life force.
Thank you Sandra. I really enjoyed reading this hub. :)
Intriguing! it may be true that black holes are entrances to other dimensions of time-space or and/or to other galaxies or universes. In fact, that is what our pastor bneleives might be what believers have termed heaven and hell, among other places. it also goes well with the Asian Yin-Yang representing opposite magnetic poles and the earth flipping poles every so many 1000s of years. :)
The scientists on staff at church - yes, we have professionals of many fields :) - think that over HALF the mass of our universe is already "down the drain" of a black hole (5 years ago, in fact) and that we will slip all the way through in our lifetimes. Much excitement!
Yeah, I can possibly concieve of that. It is a bit exciting. Thanks Patty.
good theories
nice theory, shame it is limited to a 2 dimensional model. But I can understand the complexities of imaging a 3 dimensional representation of such a model. Can I ask you this? If a star which is free moving in space, collapses and eventually becomes a 'black hole', where is the connection through which the material passes thru to the other 'universe'. I find this impossible to imagine as it is all rhetoric and theoretic.
What if you imagine something like 'bubble wrap'? Where all the bubbles (which represent each universe) are interconnected by a 'black hole'. and when the pressure in one hole decreases enough it sucks the air (or matter?) from all adjacent bubbles. Is this a possible 2 dimensional model which can be extrapolated easily into a 3 dimensional model. (even if you implement the 4th dimension of time, the model still seems to work?????
Bounce that one around ur head for a bit......
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First, let me say Nick, we can think of as many deminsions as you would like to, my theory here isn't suggesting two demensions, it suggest an unsaid number of demensions starting with two or one, whatever floats your boat.
Second, in my theory the star does not actually explode or collapse it just gets so heavey it sinks. So I couldn't say for sure which way up or down is, but that it just sinks down.
I am thinking about your bubble wrap analogy and I see what you mean according to a string like theory, however I can only imagine that if a sheet of bubble wrap was our model for a black hole, the air that escaped from one bubble being popped would make our black hole lighter, when nothing can escape, also with black holes they can only become more dense, so the release of anything goes againts the rule.
So I say, that if another piece of space fabric became so heavy it weighed down on one bubble of our bubble wrap universe, then that would be the position of a less dense portion of fabric where the hole cycle starts again.
However I can imagine a redefined bubble wrap universe. So let's say that the other Univrse hold was so dense (and so small infact, or unimaginabley large) that it could fit into one bubble of our bubble wrap universe, what we have created is a multi dimentional model, with one constant. TUAC.
Or maybe I missunderstood your analogy. Love to discuss this more with you. Thanks for reading.
PS. Incase I didn't answer clearly enough...the star would be so small which equals extremely dense, that it could pass through without becoming altered. Space is much, much larger than we can actually put our minds around, so too can something be so small we can not wrap our minds around it, except to say anti-matter, which would or could be what actually happenes to the star when it becomes a black hole. If a star explodes or sheds anything I think it would be a nebula.
I am not suggesting a hole in the exterior of the bubble wrap, more to the contrary, a hole into an adjacent bubble. You say the release of anything from a black hole goes against the rule??? this assumption is based upon the extremely small timespan that black holes have been studied. how can a positive judgement be made on one small analysis. EG. for centuries scientists believed the earth was the centre of the solar system, and someone (ptolemy??) created a working model which accurately portrayed the movement and could predict the future positions with a huge degree of accuracy. Even though the model was completely wrong. Until copernicus created the currently believed model.
Is it posible that our current analogy of the universe is like an early geocentric model whereby it is close but not quite correct?
From my 'bubble theory' (LOL) the black hole would release matter into the next bubble (Universe) and from the adjacent bubble all that would be seen is an explosion of matter being released into that bubble.
Is it not possible that a black hole is not a hole?
That it is purely a physical 'description' based on appearance when in actuality due to the event horizon blocking the reality, a black hole is simply a super-mass. I understand that scientists and writers like to add a level of mysticism? or just to glamorise it into something which it 'could be'.
Well, whatever be the case, in my mind. All that is here will always be here. Nothing gained nothing lost.
Soooo...I guess my P.S wasn't clear enough for you to understand. No offense, but you sound like a dingaling.
whats a dingaling?
i never discussed this before with anyone see.... thats why its random...
does anyone truly understand what a black hole is? lol
I was kidding about the dingaling thing. I just thought it sounded funny. I am sorry if you took me seriously. I appologize. On a serious note I am interested in what you have to say.
Some minds are too boring. Not yours!
A black hole would be pure mass. Like a rock in the bucket weighing it down.
Nick. We don't fully understand black holes, as we can only study them from afar ...I mean aFAR, and speculate, but here's some of the few things we think we know about black holes:
i cant fathom the fact that such gravity would collapse the nuclear structure within the atoms to such a level. it must totally change the qualities of the substance. it would probably deviate from the standard physical laws we take for granted as there would be no chemical bonding, just forced bonding of protons, neutrons and electrons. is it possible the force would not only squash them together but permanently bond them together in some way? creating a new form of matter?
given the gravity associated with this matter would it be possible to actually hold it? given that the gravitational attraction between 2 objects is based on multiplying the two masses and dividing by 4*pi*mu 0*r squared where r is the distance between them because wouldnt it simply suck u in... lol. weird to think about such a substance knowing we could never poke it, prod it or assess it closely...
I see what you are saying Nick. You are right. It doesn't actually collapse but is forced bonded by gravity. Like a neutron star. It has been compressed so much that it is essentially one element that is so small about a mile across but with a mass of something like a million tons per cubic centimeter.
So the general theory is that a neutron star is just shy of making itself into a black hole.
trying to fathom how a cubic centemeter can weigh a hunderd million tons is insane.
Your ideas have not deviated, they have already been calculated, however I do believe you are on to something, so keep talking until we can identify what you are trying to say.
So far I you are saying that the sheer force of gravity creates a bond, not a chemical bond, but it does. Everytime we breath we create a chemical bond. Our brains secrete chemicals as well so.. Like nuclear fusion. The elements were already present at the time of the big bang. But the density of the matter together in such a small "thing" created a bang.
Which we could very well be sitting on the otherside of an implosion. You see what I mean? But my theory about what came before the big bang (nuclear fusion) is cold fussion. The complete opposite. With cold fussion, I can imagine it being like water tranforming to ice. Water weighs less in the liquid form than it does as ice, or less as gas as it does to water or ice.
So I think you are describing the big bang.
I greatly enjoyed the article and all the comments. Just my personal opinion - I feel that the universe is constantly reborn and it all stats over again - maybe some day we will know the answer - but in the mean time it makes a great discussion.
i do agree whole heartedly that there would have been an implosion prior to the big bang, all the matter we have around us needs to have come from somewhere. perhaps there was not the same ratio of elements due to the super compression and bonding but most likely the same number of protons neutrons and the like, perhaps just jumbled up in a different way.
When i said about the compression forming forced bonding not chemical bonding i meant that for instance where water is concerned the electrons of the atoms link and bind the molecule, but i would imagine that if it were possible (???) the compression would compress the molecular components to touching point, physical touching point. possibly more, if it were possible to break down a proton, these would probably be the extreme situation where it would happen.
What would happen if there was no electron movement? would the electron 'crash' into the nucleus? (sorry its 2.25am and i am being eaten alive by midges....:(..)
what would a mass of electrons/protons/neutrons look like if they were not in their usual state but just squashed up together???? i really dont know!
PS!
2 electrons were walking down the street when one bursts out crying.
the other one says 'whats wrong?'
the first says...' I appear to have lost an electron...'
the second one says...' are u sure..?'
the first replies...'yeah! Im positive!'
Funny joke, ROTFLMAO. Right now I am busy packing for a move, but I will be back later to really get into what you wrote.
Peace!
Glycodoc, that makes perfect sense. Big Bang, the cosmos form, small-ish black holes suck up everything around them, larger black holes suck up small-ish black holes, mass of the entire cosmos compresses into one small area, finally explodes, Big Bang, the cosmos form......
Nick, I'm rolling my eyes.
Sandra, you'll laugh at anything said by a half-naked guy.
Walker....
And what is your point? I find it amusing that half naked guys can tell an joke?
I laugh at you and you are fully clothed. LOL!
besides. the joke was funny!
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LisaG says:
3 months ago
Very interesting theory sandra. Can I ask where you get those impressive pictures?