Revised AICTE Pay Scales
71After several months of hectic struggle, the MHRD has finally released the notification of sixth pay scales for the University teachers. However, the apex body, for Engineering education, AICTE is yet to notify the latest developments. Kindly voice your opinions/comments/suggestions in taking forward this issue.
Government has notified on Dec' 31, 2008 the revised pay scales for teachers on in Universityies and colleges. Highlights are shown below.
- Only three designations in respect of teachers namely, Assistant Professors, Associate Professors and Professors.
- Designations of Library and Physical Education Personnel at various levels.
- Ph.D. is must for promotion & designation of professor. This shall, however, not affect those who are already designated as 'Professor'.
- The pay of teachers shall be fixed in two pay bands of Rs. 15600-39100 and Rs. 37400-67000 with appropriate "Academic Grade Pay" (AGP).
- The number of posts of Professors in a UG College shall be equivalent to 10 percent of the number of posts-of Associate Professors in that College.
- There shall be as many posts of Professors in each PG College as the number of Departments in that College.
- approval of the UGC is must for creating new departments
- Up to 10% of the posts of Professors in universities shall be in the higher Academic Grade Pay of Rs. 12000 with eligibility conditions to be prescribed by the UGC.
- NET shall be compulsory for appointment at the entry level of Assistant Professor subject to the exemptions to the degree of Ph.D.
- NET shall not be required for such Masters' programs in disciplines for which there is no NET.
Revised Pay Scales
- Persons entering the teaching profession in Universities and Colleges shall be designated as Assistant Professors and shall be placed in the Pay Band of Rs.15600 - 39100 with AGP of Rs,6000.
- Lecturers in the pre-revised scale of Rs. 8000-13500, shall be re-designated as Assistant Professors with the said AGP of Rs. 6000.
- An Assistant Professor having Ph.D. with 4 years service, M. Phil with 5 years, and without Ph.D. or M. Phil with 6 years service shall be eligible, for moving up to AGP of Rs. 7000.
- Lecturers (senior scale) in pre-revised scale of Rs. 10,000-15200 shall be re-designated as Assistant Professor, and shall be fixed at appropriate stage in Pay Band of Rs.15600-39100 with AGP of Rs. 7000.
- Assistant Professors with completed service of 5 years at the AGP of Rs. 7000 shall be eligible to move up to the AGP of Rs. 8000.
- Posts of Associate Professor shall be in the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000, with AGP of Rs.9000.
- Directly recruited Associate Professors shall be placed in the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000 with an AGP of Rs. 9000, at the appropriate stage in the Pay Band in terms of the conditions of appointment.
- Readers and Lecturers (Selection Grade) who have completed 3 years in the current pay scale of Rs. 12000-18300 on 1.1.2006 shall be placed in Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000 with AGP Pay of Rs 9000 and shall be re-designated as Associate Professor.
- Readers and Lecturers (Selection Grade) who had not completed three years in the pay scale of Rs. 12000-18300 on 1.1.2006 shall be placed at the appropriate stage in the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-39100 with AGP of Rs. 8000 till they complete 3 years of service in the grade of Lecturer (Selection Grade)/Reader, and thereafter shall be placed in the higher Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 and accordingly re-designated as Associate Professor.
- Readers/ Lecturers (Selection Grade) in service at present shall continue to be designated as Lecturer (Selection Grade) or Readers, as the case may be, until they are placed in the Pay Band of Rs. 37,400-67000 and re-designated as Associate Professor
- Assistant Professors completing 3 years of teaching in the AGP of Rs. 8000 shall be eligible to move to the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000 with AGP of Rs. 9000 and to be designated as Associate Professor.
- Associate Professor completing 3 years of service in the AGP of Rs . 9000 and possessing a Ph.D . degree in the relevant discipline shall be eligible to be appointed and designated as Professor
- The Pay Band for the post of Professors shall be Rs .37400-67000 with AGP of Rs. 10000.
- The pay of a directly recruited Professor shall be fixed at a stage not below Rs. 43000 in the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000, with the applicable AGP of Rs. 10000.
- Ten percent of the posts of Professors in a university shall be in the higher AGP of Rs. 12000,
- Eligibility for appointment as a Professor in the higher Academic Grade Pay shall be as may be laid down by the UGC,
- No person appointed directly as Professor in the AGP of Rs. 12000 shall be fixed at a stage less than Rs. 48000 along with the AGP.
- Discretionary award of advance increments for those who enter the profession as Associate Professors or Professors with higher merit shall be within the competence of the appropriate authority of the concerned University or recruiting institution.
Professors in Under Graduate and Post Graduate Colleges:
- Ten percent of the number of sanctioned posts of Associate Professor in an Under Graduate College shall be that of Professors
i) provided that there shall not be more than one post of Professor in each Department;
ii) and provided further that One-fourth (25%) of the posts of Professor in UG Colleges shall be directly recruited or filled on deputation by eligible teachers
iii) the remaining three-fourths (75%) of posts of Professors shall be filled by merit promotion from among eligible Associate Professors of the relevant department of the Under Graduate College. Identification of posts of Professor in an Under Graduate College for being filled through direct recruitment/deputation shall be within the competence of the University acting in consultation with the College.
iv) Where the number of posts of Professor worked out as a percentage of the number of posts of Associate Professor for merit promotion or direct recruitment/ deputation is not an integer, the same shall be rounded off to the next higher integer.
- There shall be one post of Professor in each Department of a Post Graduate and shall be subject to the same criterion for selection/ appointment as that of Professors in Universities,
- provided that One-fourth (25%) of the posts of Professor shall be filled on deputation/direct recruitment from among eligible teachers
ii) the remaining three-fourths (75%) of posts shall be filled through merit promotion from among the eligible Associate Professors in the relevant department of the Post Graduate College. Identification of posts of Professor in a Post Graduate College for being filled through direct recruitment/deputation shall be within the competence of the University acting in consultation with the College.
iii) Where the number of posts of professor for merit promotion or direct recruitment/ deputation worked out as a percentage of the total number of posts in a Post Graduate College is not an integer, the same shall be rounded off to the next higher integer
Pro-Vice-Chancellor
- Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 with AGP of Rs. 10000 or Rs. 12000, as the case may be, along with a Special Allowance of Rs.4000 per month, subject to the condition that the sum total of pay in the Pay Band, the Academic Grade Pay and the Special Allowance shall not exceed Rs. 80,000.
Vice Chancellor
- a fixed pay of Rs. 75000 along with a Special Allowance of Rs. 5000 per month.
Principal of Under Graduate Colleges
- the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 with AGP of Rs.10000, plus a Special Allowance of Rs. 2000 per month.
Principal of Post Graduate Colleges
- the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 with AGP of Rs.10,000, plus a Special Allowance of Rs. 3000 per month.
Other terms and conditions:
Increments:
- Annual/advance increment @ 3% of the sum total of pay in the relevant Pay Band and the AGP as applicable for the stage in the Pay Band.
- The number of additional increment(s) on placement at each higher stage of AGP shall be as per the existing scheme of increment on.promotion from lower Pay Scale to higher Pay Scale;
- however, in view of the considerable raise in effective pay between the two Pay Bands, there shall be no additional increment on movement from the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-39100 to the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000.
Pay fixation
- As recommended by 6th Central Pay Commission
Allowances:
- at par with those accepted by the Central Government for Central Government employees on the recommendations of 6th Central Pay Commission and shall be applicable from 1.09.2008.
.Study Leave:
- University Grants Commission shall revise its guidelines in respect of granting study leave with pay for acquiring M. Phil etc. and Ph.D. in the relevant discipline while in service by relaxing the number of years to be put in after entry while keeping in mind the availability of vacant positions for teachers and other cadres in colleges and universities, so that a teacher and other cadres entering service without Ph.D. or M.Phil. or higher qualification could be encouraged to acquire these qualifications in the relevant disciplines at the earliest rather than at a later stage of the career.
Research Promotion Grant:
- University Grants Commission shall prescribe a scheme with appropriate guidelines for providing by way of appropriate 'start up grants' to teachers and other cadres taking up research in all disciplines.
Age of Superannuation:
- In order to meet the situation arising out of shortage of teachers in universities and other teaching institutions and the consequent vacant positions therein, the age of superannuation for teachers in Central Educational Institutions has already been enhanced to sixty five years, vide the Department of Higher Education letter No.F.No.1- 19/2006-U.II dated 23.3.2007, for those involved in class room teaching in order to attract eligible persons to the teaching career and to retain teachers in service for a longer period.
- Consequent on upward revision of the age of superannuation of teachers, the Central Government has already authorized the Central Universities to enhance the age of superannuation of Vice- Cencellors of Central Universities from 65 years to 70 years,
- Subject to availability of vacant positions and fitness, teachers shall also be reemployed on contract appointment beyond the age of sixty five years up to the age of seventy years. Re-employment beyond the age of superannuation shall, however, be done selectively, for a limited period of 3 years in the first instance and then for another further period of 2 years purely on the basis of merit, experience, area of specialization and peer group review and only against available vacant positions without affecting selection or promotion prospects of eligible teachers.
- Whereas the enhancement of the age of superannuation for teachers engaged in class room teaching is intended to attract eligible persons to a career in teaching and to meet the shortage of teachers by retaining teachers in service for a longer period,
Pension:
- For teachers and other cadres in UGC maintained institutions in receipt of pension, the Central Government rules for pension and gratuity as applicable to Central Government employees shall be applicable
- In view of the new pension scheme effective from 1.1.2004, no new cases of conversion to pension scheme shall be allowed.
Family Pension:
- Family Pension facilities as approved by the Central Government in respect of Central Government Employees on the recommendations of Sixth CPC shall be available to teachers and other cadres in Central Universities and other UGC maintained institutions who are eligible for such Pension at present.
Additional Quantum of Pension to senior pensioners:
- The facility of additional quantum of pension accepted by the Central Government on the recommendation of 6th CPC for senior pensioners of the Central Government shall be extended to persons who are or were in teaching and other cadres on attaining the age of eighty years if they are already in pension scheme in Central Universities and other UGC maintained institutions.
Gratuity and Encashment of Leave :
- Facilities of gratuity and encashment of leave accepted by the Central Government on the recommendation of 6th CPC for Central Government employees shall be extended to teachers and other cadres in Central Universities and other UGC maintained institutions.
Ex-Gratia Compensation :
- Families of teachers and other cadres who die in performance of their bona fide duties shall be compensated in the same manner as similarly placed families of Central Government Employees.
Provident Fund:
- In view of the present policy in regard to Contributory Provident Fund, the status quo shall continue.
Consultancy Assignments:
- University Grants Commission shall work out a suitable model, for which the models of revenue sharing between institutions and consultant-teachers prevailing in the Indian Institutes of Technology, Indian Institutes of Management and other institutions may be taken into consideration.
Anomalies of the last PRC:
- Anomalies and unimplemented recommendations of the last Pay Review Committee, if any, shall be examined by the University Grants Commission in consultation with the Ministry of Human Resource Development.
- Notwithstanding anything in the foregoing clauses, those who have already availed the benefits of advance increments for possessing Ph.D./ M.Phil. at the entry level under the earlier scheme shall not be entitled to the benefit of advance increments under this Scheme.
- For posts at the entry level where no such advance increments were admissible for possessing Ph.D/ M.Phil. under the earlier scheme, the benefit of five advance increments for possessing Ph.D./ M.Phil. shall be available to only those appointments which have been made on or after the coming into force of this Scheme.
- Teachers, Library and Physical Education cadres who have already availed the benefits of increments as per existing policy for acquiring Ph.D./M.Phil while in service, would not be entitled to benefits under this Scheme.
Increments:
- Each annual increment shall be equivalent to 3% of the sum total of pay in the relevant Pay Band and the AGP as applicable for the stage in the Pay Band.
- Each advance increment shall also be at the rate of 3% of the sum total of pay in the relevant Pay Band and the AGP as applicable and shall be non-compoundable.
- The number of additional increment(s) on placement at each higher stage of AGP shall be as per the existing scheme of increment on.promotion from lower Pay Scale to higher Pay Scale; however, in view of the considerable raise in effective pay between the two Pay Bands, there shall be no additional increment on movement from the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-39100 to the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000.
- All issues relating to grant of advance increments to teachers engaged in engineering/ technical courses in the university system shall be subject to recommendations of the Committee separately constituted by the Central Government for pay review of teachers in technical education.
Pay `fixation formula'
- The pay 'fixation formula' recommended by 6th Central Pay Commission as accepted by the Central Government shall be adopted for teachers and equivalent positions in the Library and Physical Education Cadres.
Allowances
- at par with those accepted by the Central Government for Central Government employees on the recommendations of 6th Central Pay Commission and shall be applicable from 1.09.2008.
- For teachers and equivalent positions in Library and Physical Education cadres the rates of allowances as applicable to Central Government Group 'A' employees shall be adopted.
Comments
Prof.Anil Shah How are You want Some Contacts Name of Gujarat Staff association for Polytechnic Pay ?
Prof mn is absolutely correct.
The issue is we lack unity and self-confidence and courage to fight against the denied justice of the extreme delay in payment of 6th pay.
announce at last...
announce at last...
Contact ALL INDIA ENGG COLLEGE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION (aiecta -WHICH IS IN THE MAKING) state engg colleges unions for taking up the issue of AICTE pay scale revision and other relevant problems related to Engg faculty:
aiecta@yahoo.com
where all our actve leaders gone? Why have they all stopped posting information, in this hour great need? We all require their assistance and advise. Pl come and post factual position and guide us.Our Federation office bearers should give information on statments shared by Mr.Crusedor/Dingdong.They given disturbing information. At lest somebody should clarify
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Aicte in its last pay recommendation1986 it has omitted the the technical supporting staff saying state govt. do not apply it but it should force the state govt.to implement its recommendations in its compleate form which was originally recommended in 1976 it should courageiously recommend it pay scales to all technical staff working in the Engg. and Technical Institutes and follow on to implement in its total form then ther willbe meaning for AICTE otherwise what is the use of having a concil like this, in karnataka the Hon,ble High court has been recommended to apply the pay scales technical supporting staff and state govt has also intended to but the AICTE
so far not responding atleast now it will intiaite to recommnedend and implement in its total form
ny suggestion is AICTE should announce the pay commission
report immediately and it is getting delayed inordinately. One more suggestion is those Engg college who offered UG courses need not compel the staff to do Phd for getting
professor post. Due to this the quality of Phd is getting down and many people are doing doctorsl program due to getting prmotion and not otherwise. As per National knowledge Commission report by Prof Anand Director IITM
UG colleges need not insist Phd for professor post. More over in CSE and ECE branches it is very difficilt to get guides for research and AICTE must consider all the points before fixing qualifications for Professor post.
I request all ENGINEERING COLLEGE TEACHERS to observe PEN DOWN strike from August 17th io August 22 as a protest week for not announcing REVISED 6th PAY REVISION SCALES by AICTE. KINDLY LET US UNITE AND SHOW OUR PROTEST.
No News @ pay scale? Why all are silent?
It's getting very delayed by AICTE.. As, so much resentment in Govt. Engg. colleges of Punjab
No web site is giving any information on AICTE sixth pay scales. Pl let me know if anybody is aware about it.
I am totally confused and frustrated too. Few days back, Prof.N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO wrote in this hub that upto 31st July had been extended for submission of Govordhan Mehta's report regarding Polytechnic college faculties' pay revision and as far as I know that our degree engg. college report has also not yet been placed to the cabinet ..... then how these two reports have been rejected by the cabinet and can be formed another new committee?????????? Is it only for NIT (as they were not happy with the Mehta's report) ??????? Therefore I am requesting to Dear PROF.VARGHESE or AB or Asutosh (who have written this news)to write in detail along with the source of your information. Otherwise it is very much confusing. kindly don't spread any rumor among the already depressed faculty groups.
I HEARED THAT A DEPARTMENT CAN GET 15 LAKS FROM AICTE . CAN ANY ONE EXPLAIN ME ABOUT THAT
Mr NCS,
Ealier you have stated that Prof Goverdhan Mehta had submitted his report. Now you are saying that he is asking for extension till 31st of July. I am totally confused. Please, let us know that report has been submitted or not.
earlier it was informed by you that prof Goverdhan Mehta had submitted his repot. Now you are stating that he is asking for extension till 31st of July. I am totally confused. Please, clearly let us know, report has been submitted or not.
Sorry deleted as it was a re-post.
Dear All,
While demanding parity in pay scales with that of Degree Engg. teachers we must also seek parity in the designations as well or else we will loose much in the longer run.
So we need to support Mr. N.Chandra Shekhar in his efforts and act as per his guidance. Also we can create awareness of these updates n facts with the teachers from our colleges and polytechnics.
Its indeed amazing to see so many technical teachers exchanging views on this blog, everyone is giving suggestions since months, a handful of Babus are keeping all intelligents of IITs, IIMs, and NITs and other institutions, on waiting. It seems that our tolerance level has increased to such a great extent that we are used to everything...We have simply forgot to put claims for our rights (which should be given to us at right time... After all we certainly are not beggers...!!!
Dear BALBEER,
Think of Sixth Pay and not pension!!!!
one thing is sure.That is,our next pay revision(7TH) will be in A.D2025
Here, I have another news :
MUMBAI: Around 30,000 university and college teachers across Maharashtra will go on indefinite 'cease work' strike from tuesday .
Source : THE TIMES OF INDIA.
If the technical teachers (at the Diploma level) are not redesignated as their
counterparts in Universities/IIT/NIT, then it shall be another nail in the coffin of
the polytechnic teachers. This shall be more visible in the next pay commission.
We all should realise and accept the fact that it shall be in our interest
to have comparable designations with UGC/IIT etc. Remember we (technical teachers) got PB4(after3 years in PB3) only because of the mass agitation
by the UGC teachers.Lets not take this aspect lightly.Mr. Chandrasekhar
is working hard.We request him to kindly enquire about this aspect.
Thanks
Please refer to the url below for a valuable news from The Telegraph
Please refer to the above url for a valuable news from The Telegraph
Dear, NCS
It is learnt that MEHTA committee has not recommended the designation for Polytechnic Teachers. It will remain same as lecturer or senior lecturer or lecturer (selection grade). Do you have any information ?.
where is malkhani?
THANKS TO MR N.CHANDRA SHEKAR FOR THE LATEST STATUS.
Dear friends,
You can see the proposals of All India Federation of Polytechnic Teachers' Organisations (AIFPTO) on the Federation website www.aifpto.org or on the website www.palaap.org which is the website of Polytechnic All Lecturers Association (PALA) of Andhra Pradesh. These are the proposals submitted to the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee on Dt. 29-05-2009 by the AIFPTO delegates at New Delhi. Send suggestions to aifpto@gmail.com or rohini64@yahoo.com
Dear N. Chandra Shekhar,General Secretary, AIFPTO Thanks a lot for the news on development on the issue. What AICTE scales do AIFPTO demands for polytechnic teachers? Will they be the same as that of AICTE pay scales of Engg. College teachers?
And there are plentyfull forums to discuss the case of issue of Tenth Class Exam issues. Dont do it here. One should always follow the decorum. In case of any doubt read the title of the community. Please keep posting latest news as they come up. No hearsay please.
We should be united and let the Govt. know the seriousess of the issue. I suggest that all the technical teachers should send a mass fax message to AICTE, MHRD and the office of the PM at once on a specific day. This would attract the officials and the honorouable Ministers concerened. The teachers associations should coordinate this move.
Dear all,
Today morning, I have met Ms. D. Purandeswari, Hon'ble Minister of State for HRD along with a delegation of Polytechnic teachers at her Party office at Visakhapatnam. I have submitted a representation to the Minister expressing our frustration on the delay in announcing the Revised Pay scales to the Polytechnic teachers. she too admitted that there is a delay and promised that she would take up the issue as soon as she is back in Delhi later this week. I am in touch with her office regularly and would post if anything worthwhile is known.
Mr K.M ,UR RIGHT. NOW THERE IS URGENT NEED TO FORCE MHRD TO ACCEPT THE MEHATA'S REPORT AND MAKE AICTE TO ANNOUNCE IT .
don't distract. w're discussing about aicte's 6th pay
To, R Jain
Yes, I took the matter from your blog...I am extremely sorry for not mentioning the source. The intention was only to inform the news to fellow colleagues.. But yes, I understand, I should mention the source.
What is the latest position of aicte pay for technical teachers?Please inform us if you have any information regarding this.
A very good idea has been suggested by Ms.Lakshmi. Let us all be united under one association. Then, we can able to provide solutions to all of our problems. We can able to easily get the attention of our politicians.
I do agree with you Rajkumar. The MHRD is cornering us . We should first set up a confederation of all assosiations of technical institutions & Polytechniques in the country and show a united face to the MHRD. Using the media to highlight the apathy of the government towards us is very essential. It is criminal on the part of the government to drag the feet for so long to make a decision. If this decision-making keeps on going at this pace the next set of state elections , model code of conduct etc,etc will start again and the government wil go into hibernation. Forming a confederation and using the media to highlight our plight is the need of the hour.
While searching on the net I got a fitment formula issued by MHRD please visit to get an idea http://www.education.nic.in/UHE/fittab.pdf
in Rajasthan , RTU rajasthan technical univesityhas declared VI pay for technical institutes.
http://www.rtu.ac.in/events.html
in Rajasthan , RTU rajasthan technical univesityhas declared VI pay for technical institutes.
http://www.rtu.ac.in/events.html
Dear Sanket
No harm if you are collecting news from other's blog.But you should write the source
Why don't all the technical teachers be united to show our resentment to all those concerned in delaying the Sixth Pay due to us? We have to register our protest. First, we must seek the general media attention to this issue. Then only, the Government will understand our strength.
Some real saddists did post absurd news about mehta disapperance and MHRD inaction. Indeed it is hearterning to know that Mehta did submit his report last week and discussions are on. If somebody can throw us some light regarding the recommendations or a link to the recommendations it will be greatly helpful to clear the doubts among many. I also heard the news that Chandrasekhar, General Secretary got the information from Delhi that the report has been submitted. It is heartening to know that Chandrasekhar is doing his best by keeping regular contact with MHRD Minister Smt Purandeswari Devi. Lets hope to hear the best.. Chandrasekhar, General Secretary can be contacted on his mobile at 98485-36871 (AP Idea)
AICTE Pay Revision : Report of Prof.Mehta committee for Engg. & Polytechnic institutions submitted to MHRD
N Chandra Shekhar General Secretary, AIFPTO, have contacted Sri Pratap Singh, Under Secretary, MHRD on 9th July 09 and was informed by him that the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee reports have been submitted to MHRD. No decision has yet been taken on the report by the Ministry. Discussions are being held in the MHRD regarding the same.
Are we spineless?
Everyone should send protest to HRD minister.
dear all,there are some saddists writing in this hub.absolute absurdity has been sent by someone in last couple of days. prof.Govardhanmehta submitted his report last week.discussions are going on in mhrd office.report will be finalised and published shortly.nothing to worry
Whatever be the source of this Malkani committee constitution report for re-examining the VIth pay commission packagae for Poor Technical faculty, the rusty vision of this government should be clear to us.
I personally feel after Nehru and Indira Jee no PM of this country had/has the vision for a progresive academic environment. Political compulsions of the governments after Indira blurred the vision of the successive governments for long term affirmative goals of technical education.
We academicians also helped them in further polluting this. We do not have enough moral strength to talk for our unity and to speak to the political representatives for our genuine demands for VIth pay hike.
Are we not facing the price hike problems as those Babus who got the VIth pay hike before this election. The UGC teachers are better united. Shame on us.
I dont think we are going to be given the pay hike in near future. Government is not bothered for us as the private engineering college involved in this technical education business are much in number than us and are in some way affecting this delay through poitical linkages. Pay hike for these pvt colleges will be a burden and will reduce the political CHANDA amount.
Any information is authentic or not we don't know. so, please provide the source of information regarding AICTE new pay scale.
Any information is authentic or not we don't know. so, please provide the source of information regarding AICTE new pay scale.
mehtaji ka anthim meeting hua kya?
Dear NCS,
Is it your information authentic? we are getting confused by other informations in this site. Please only provide us the authentic information. If any one of you have any authentic information, kindly inform us through this site the latest information. we are all in deep anxiety.
what about malkhani?
Dear NCS,
Which Mehta Committee report you are talking about? Is it for IIT/IIM/NIT OR is it for AICTE approved engineering colleges? Because, in this blog few people have mentioned that Mehta Committee report has been rejected by MHRD. Everyone is getting confused.
Dear all,
The Goverdhan Mehta Committee reports have been submitted to MHRD. Discussions are going on in MHRD for the last few days on the reports.
No decision has yet been taken.
pay revision for all institutions coming under aicte will be reviewed by prof.s malkhani.a very close fellow to kapil sibal
It is the mehta committe report for iit/iim/nit cancelled?? Or it is the report for other engineering colleges?
prof.varghese
Can you please post the link of the news?
malkhani committee to be constituted with in 2 weeks.let us wait and be patience
prof.mehta was totally dejected and upset.not taking any incalls.
mehta out.28 lakhs lost.a new committee most probably under sachdev malkhani is going to study the deal.mr.malkhani is so pleasing and favourable especially to those for engg wing and also cousin of prof.rastogi,former chairman of ugc pay commission.arjun-kapil rift is the main cause for mehta's rejection(telegraph says)
whats going on?
7th July meeting has been postponed. This was decided as several secrataries of interministerial committee requested for excuses from july 7 meeting.Now the final meeting is going to be in last week of july or first week of august,before mehta's USA visit. If it fails to happen then all of us have to wait till middle of September when Mehta returns. Hope we get our dues before Dipawali....as Dipawali gifts.
7th July meeting has been postponed. This was decided as several secrataries of interministerial committee requested for excuses from july 7 meeting.Now the final meeting is going to be in last week of july or first week of august,before mehta's USA visit. If it fails to happen then all of us have to wait till middle of September when Mehta returns. Hope we get our dues before Dipawali....as Dipawali gifts.
Let us all unite to form a new association of "Sixth Pay Leftouts". We will represent our feelings to the HRD Minister. Wait for a period , then let us register our protest in some manner.
AICTE PAY REVISION BY PROF.MEHTA REJECTED BY INTER-MINISTERIAL COMMITTEE(SOURCE P.T.I)A NEW COMMITTEEE IS GOING TO BE CONSTITUTED BY JULY 15.IT WILL BE GIVEN THREE MONTHS TIME.THE EXPENDITURE FOR MEHTA COMMITTEE COT BY 66 PERCENT.
is there any update for the 7th july meeting? it is really ridiculous..
Any recent updates of IIT/IIM/IIsc pay scale implementation??
Really very disgusting.
Now it is clear to us that mehataji is really reluctant to do anything for the benifit of technical teachers and very indifferent to us which is not tolerable at all.It is also obvious that after july, then August then September then Novem then ..........it will be Assembly Election in west bengal 2011 and we are so spineless that we are wasting our time without any agitation and seeing and waiting for what do they do for us because we are so unorganised and ununited.Dear friends awake and awake , they are making fool us depriving from our right.
dear all,try to understand the reality.There are over 80,000 technical teachers coming under aicte.comprising homoeopathy ayurveda poly technic,dental,pharmacy,nursing other than engg colleges.All of them have to be paid arrears amounting 80000(3.5 lakhs min) that is 28000000000 or two thousand eight hundred crores.our budget allocated 39,000 crores for NREGS OR NATIONAL RURAL EMPLOYMENT GUARENTEE SCHEME ,which made the UPA government to sit in the chair for second consecutive time.Now what the expenditure secratary says is the fund allocated for higher education salary revision could not be met during the fist half of current fiscal year owing to the additional allocation given to NREGS.so it is not the fault of ugc or aicte or mhrd but our great politicians.Very unfortunate to hear that the salary of our medical men who performed successful cardiac surgery of our prime minister are getting salary less than a mazdoor(class three) of indian railways or line man of state electicity board.funny too
mehtaji ka anthim meeting hua kya?
mehtaji ka anthim meeting hua kya?
hey now it's the time to revolt. Enough is enough. We can't wait more.
is the meeting really postponed
Is this just a rubbish joke with the sentiments of teachers?
today's meeting postponed to 28-7-2009.Thakur and Mrs Dixit out of station.
what is the latest of the meeting of the Committee members meeting which was scheduled today???? is this meeting happening or not??
I have also contacted to Mr. Chandrasekhar today. He said the same thing to me also. Now the question is how long will it be taken to submit the report after the meeting of 7th July? Not only that how long MHRD will take to accept it --- GOD only knows.
Dear NCS
thank you for your informations. keep the updates..
regards
Siva, chennai
Dear Friends,
Thank you for your kind information, please go on giving us the latest news as soon as possible whenever anyone of you get it.Because we all are in anxiety as our favorite festival is approaching near.
AICTE Pay Revision : Last meeting of Prof. Mehta committee scheduled on 7 July 09
N Chandra Shekhar,General Secretary, AIFPTO contacted Ms. Pratima Dixit, Director (Technical Cell), MHRD and enquired about the status of Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee Report which was due to be submitted before 30-06-09. She has informed that the last meeting of the Committee members would be held on 07-07-09 to finalise and submit the Report. It was further informed that after the Committee submits its Report, the MHRD would discuss the Report and after approving it would send it to AICTE for Notification. This report does not need the Central Cabinet approval.
This information is from highly placed sources in MHRD. You can rely on this info.
Dear NCS,
Thank you for your information, if it is authentic.Otherwise please don't mislead us.Please inform us with your latest information as soon as you get so that we can share it. Thanks again.
Dear all, the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee report would be finalised at Delhi on 7th July 2009 and would be submitted immediately. It is authentic news.
Now, it has come to form a common platform to agitate nationwide for delay in implementing of aicte pay scale for all technical faculties, otherwise we have to suffer a lot.
Can any body know whether Prof.Mehta has submitted the report or not ?
What is latest position ?
I cant understand why these people are not considering our problems seriously.They just want to save some crores by delaying the implementation of AICTE revised pay. But they feel hard to digest the truth that many people are in urgent need of the revised pay scales. Atleast they had to implement it before august 2009 and they must strongly recommend all private engineering colleges to implement it.
what is the latest information of submitting AICTE pay report which is scheduled to submit toady(30.06.09)? Please inform us in this site the latest development of aicte pay commision"s report.
We can expect everything to get finalised in the month of July. IIT, IIM Pay decision is likely to be cleared by the Cabinet during this week. (It has appeared in the NEWS). Mehta Committee is submitting one more report today. Mr Kapil Sibbal seems to be a dynamic man, and he will certainly go for Decisions (he has showed such behaviour in his earliers assigned departments also) So, after IIT - IIM, it should be the turn for all AICTE affiliated including self-financed colleges to get the benefits. It is also conveyed that the pay package for technical teachers would certainly be better than their counterparts in other UGC colleges. LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST !!!
We can expect everything to get finalised in the month of July. IIT, IIM Pay decision is likely to be cleared by the Cabinet during this week. (It has appeared in the NEWS). Mehta Committee is submitting one more report today. Mr Kapil Sibbal seems to be a dynamic man, and he will certainly go for Decisions (he has showed such behaviour in his earliers assigned departments also) So, after IIT - IIM, it should be the turn for all AICTE affiliated including self-financed colleges to get the benefits. It is also conveyed that the pay package for technical teachers would certainly be better than their counterparts in other UGC colleges. LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST !!!
We can expect everything to get finalised in the month of July. IIT, IIM Pay decision is likely to be cleared by the Cabinet during this week. (It has appeared in the NEWS). Mehta Committee is submitting one more report today. Mr Kapil Sibbal seems to be a dynamic man, and he will certainly go for Decisions (he has showed such behaviour in his earliers assigned departments also) So, after IIT - IIM, it should be the turn for all AICTE affiliated including self-financed colleges to get the benefits. It is also conveyed that the pay package for technical teachers would certainly be better than their counterparts in other UGC colleges. LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST !!!
dear sir,
is any one aware, that when exactly is would be 6th pay commison be implemented. as per the speed of progress i think this may take another few years or so by that time 7th pay schedule might have arrised.
Sombody told to write the matter to Kapil Sibal. I have written several times to that person but did not get any response.How do u think after winning an election these politicians will help the general public like us? so dont depend on him. Better wait and see.We dont have any other option
Tomorrow is the last day of Dr. Mehta's Committee.Please make me known about Pay revision of polytechnic teachers.
LETS LOOK AT THE BRIGHTER SIDE-BY THE TIME WE GET THE 6TH PAY ,IT WOULD BE TIME FOR THE 7TH PAY AND THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, WE MAY GET BOTH THE PAYS TOGETHER . SO HAVE PATIENCE AND REJOICE.
it would be better if they scrap aicte/ugc
Education panel wants UGC, AICTE scrapped
See the following link tom know more
what is the status aicte 6th pay revision report of polytechnic lectures,will it be more than UGC pay scale?
ente vasudevetta athu eeeee adutha kalathonnum nadakkuvan pokunnilla
What is the status of pay revision(AICTE) of Engineering College teachers?
Revised pay for IIT, IIM faculty may go to Cabinet this weekPress Trust of India / New Delhi June 24, 2009, 15:24 IST
Teachers in IITs and IIMs may expect fat pay packages, better than their counterparts in universities and colleges, as the government is likely to take the issue of their revised salary to the Cabinet this week.
The Pay Review committee, headed by Prof Goverdhan Mehta, set up for faculty members of central technical institutes like IITs and IIMs had submitted its report to the HRD Ministry in February this year.
The government then set up another committee to study the recommendations and make final suggestions on salaries and perks for the teachers of 53 Central Technical Educational Institutions, including IITs and IIMs.
The committee had suggested a better package for these teachers as against the faculty members of universities and colleges.
"A cabinet note has been prepared and the matter may be moved to the cabinet this week," a top ministry official told PTI here.
The Goverdhan Mehta committee will also submit another report on salary package for faculty of AICTE-affiliated institutes.
The committee, which was supposed to submit the report by May end, has been given extension till June 30.
Cabinet will consider the revision submitted by Mehta by this week. See the following link for a happy news
When AICTE 6th pay will be released???????????
I agree with Mr.CPR about (The only solution is intervention of mr kapil sibal.He is not like the previous old buddhu.As i told you earlier ,we have no union or associations to raise our issues.just go to our ministers website directly (www.kapilsibalmp.com)and post our grievance directly.if hundreds of us make use of this,our minister cannot keep away from the issue. To know the present position,today i called mrs.Pratima dixit,the attendant told she is in tour.I then called mr Thakur,the govt secratary,the attendant told he is not in office.I then called mr Agarwal the principal secratary,the response was that he is out of country and ll return only after two weeks.If this is the situation the condition of technical teachers will be too pathetic.)SO IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE TEACHERS WORKING IN DELHI,WE ALL MUST ACT BY SENDING GRIEVANCES TO OUR HON MINISTER.& also form a union.I recomend to others to give his comments to direct our minister.
Dear All,
Let us be prepared for AICTE pay scales as New Year Gift in Jan 2010 rather than being too optimistic as Dasara or Diwali Gifts. The Govt, wants all of us to live miserable so that we become walking examples for the Gen.Next so that they wont dare to come into this profession.
Dear friends, Don't worry AICTE pay will come as a DIWALI GIFT for technical teachers when the season comes.
Dear friends, Don't worry AICTE pay will come as a DIWALI GIFT for technical teachers when the season comes.
There seems some one unlike a teacher has posted unparliamentary comments in recent post. it is unbecoming of a teacher. The hub coordinator is requested to delete these unwarranted comments immediately so that the grace and respect of a teacher like figure is maintained in the eye of public. Delays or no delays may be due to several reasons not attributable to Prof Mehta. A teacher dis-respecting a teacher should not expect any respect others will give him, let this be known to all if by chance the fact is not yet known.
There seems some one unlike a teacher has posted unparliamentary comments in recent post. it is unbecoming of a teacher. The hub coordinator is requested to delete these unwarranted comments immediately so that the grace and respect of a teacher like figure is maintained in the eye of public. Delays no delays may be due to several reaons not atributable to Prof Mehta. A teacher dis-respecting a teacher should not expect any respect others will give him, let this be known to all if by chance the fact is not yet known.
Probably these details (NIT scales with respect to IIT scales) are available on "PAY COMMISSION " site. The NIT directors have rejected such recommendations. Such moves by the committee would harm the technical education of the country.
Dear CPR
I asked about Mehtas second report (engineering/polytechnics). Where did you get the information regarding the submission of Mehtas second report?
Keep patience friends, We will get in course of time.
nit proffessor=iit asso prof,,,,,nit asso prof=less than asso prof and greater than asst prof of niit,,,,,nit asst prof=less than iit asst prof
Dear CPR
Could you provide the details of Mehta's second report?
The only solution is intervention of mr kapil sibal.He is not like the previous old buddhu.As i told you earlier ,we have no union or associations to raise our issues.just go to our ministers website directly (www.kapilsibalmp.com)and post our grievance directly.if hundreds of us make use of this,our minister cannot keep away from the issue. To know the present position,today i called mrs.Pratima dixit,the attendant told she is in tour.I then called mr Thakur,the govt secratary,the attendant told he is not in office.I then called mr Agarwal the principal secratary,the response was that he is out of country and ll return only after two weeks.If this is the situation the condition of technical teachers will be too pathetic.SO IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE TEACHERS WORKING IN DELHI,WE ALL MUST ACT BY SENDING GRIEVANCES TO OUR HON MINISTER.
Dear collegues,try to understand the reality.The aicte is only a body governed by MHRD.the officials of aicte is not responsible for the delay.It is the mhrd to decide .Govardhan mehta had already submitted the reports.The iit/iim faculties are drawing the revised pay on adhoc manner.Their report is being processed by an interministerial committee comprising 20 to 25 members.it is highly impossible to arrange atleast 50 percent of them to attend in a sitting.So making a decision by interministerial committee is a mammoth task .Thats why the revision indefinitly delayed.The second report of mehta meant for engg.polytechnic,pharmacyetc etc is placed before mhrd last week.But being the first on pending they cannot release the second one.
Prof Tyagi has rightly hit the nail!
The AICTE & UGC which are nothing but dolls at the hands of powerfull politicians who also are owners of large educational empires It is a shame on the part of Tech.teachers to beg the parity with non-tech teachers pay scales. This happens only because there are very few permanent teachers in Govt, and Aided Technical Colleges.
It is now in immediate future these two white elephants will be sunk by the Govt. We are trying to equate apples with oranges here only coz apples are in fewer in number.
Anyone listening in Delhi there? You should hurry up plz.
Why should we not be associated with UGC ,what is the harm . Is there is any one who can tell what better treatment have we been given in 5th pay revision.So we should get associated with a big and strong teaching lobbyie UGC.By puttinng the tag of technical we are complled to suffer. So my request isto voice to close down the aicte and start a dept. of tech. education under the umbrella of ugc so that we people also get all the benifits along all the ugc teachers
Why should we not be associated with UGC ,what is the harm . Is there is any one who can tell what better treatment have we been given in 5th pay revision.So we should get associated with a big and strong teaching lobbyie UGC.By puttinng the tag of technical we are complled to suffer. So my request isto voice to close down the aicte and start a dept. of tech. education under the umbrella of ugc so that we people also get all the benifits along all the ugc teachers
dear sir/mam
i am a employe in a engg. college but i m a non teaching stap so i want knowlidge about my pay scell and rull.
thanking you
We should understand from the reactions and reflexes from this hub page why we technical teachers do get revision of pay in the last after over a year each time. We do liitle like other teachers do. They are organised and have their proper associations. Members lend support to them and get the results.Any learning?
A new joke in circulation in Universities: Asked by a Technical university Professor that when is the 6th pay commission being implemented for University and Technical teachers, a MHRD official replies " Are you kidding? We 'might have' already implemented it a long back!! We get our new salaries since 2008 - since about 10 months back!! How come you are not getting your new salaries?? Are you asking for VII pay commission salary??"
"No my dear friend, I am talking of VI Pay Commission Salary" replied the Professor .
A GOOD EXAMPLE OF TOTAL MEMORY LOSS.
It seems that AICTE not bothered about welfare of teachning/non teachning staff in Engg Colleges and Polytechnics!, AICTE is sleeping..... they are not providing any information on AICTE site but where as UGC was publishing all the devlopments while implementing 6th pay to the UGC satff. AICTE has to wakeup and has to provide latest information about 6th pay scales to the employess under AICTE pay scales.. They sholud provide reason for unnecessary delay in implementing revised AICTE pay scales.
Has Mehta report been submitted to HRD, today?
AICTE is not bothrering whether the Private engg colleges are implimenting or not. AICTE shoud strictly implimetn 6th pay scales for pVT engg college staff. then only quality improves.AICTE asking many many things in the inspection, but not staff scales
AICTE is not bothrering whether the Private engg colleges are implimenting or not. AICTE shoud strictly implimetn 6th pay scales for pVT engg college staff. then only quality improves.AICTE asking many many things in the inspection, but not staff scales
see that every engg college impliment
the latest position is the teachers from central institutes like iit/iim/mining school Dhanbad etc are already receiving revised scale on adhoc manner.all others just blinking as there is no voice or nobody to pressurise mhrd. if goes like this ,never expect revised salaries till doom comes .thats why cpr said to convey grievances directly to kapilsibals website
the latest position is the teachers from central institutes like iit/iim/mining school Dhanbad etc are already receiving revised scale on adhoc manner.all others just blinking as there is no voice or nobody to pressurise mhrd. if goes like this ,never expect revised salaries till doom comes .thats why cpr said to convey grievances directly to kapilsibals website
Have any latest information for implementation of AICTE Pay scale as per 6th pay commission in technical Institution including polytechnic colleges, please inform us through this .
Dear friends,
If any body knows about present status of revised AICTE pay scales as per sixth pay commssion, please post it on this site.
Anyone the correct status of new pay scale
nothing has been finalised.
Can anybody inform what happened in the meeting of Tech. Education Directors with Mehta committee/Govt. officials on June 07,2009? What is causing delay now when everything has been finalised?
1. when will the ugc teachers start getting the revised scales.
2. Who are those teachers falling under the purview of ugc and who uder the purview of aicte?
www.kapilsibalmp.com .post our grievance directly
GOOD EVENING ALL OF YOU.WE ALL KNOW THAT UGC HAD RELEASED THE FITMENT TABLES LAST NOON.GENERAL ELECTION AND FITMENT TABLES FROM UGC ARE THE TWO OBSTACLES THAT CAME IN THE WAY OF AICTE PAY REVISION AS SAID BY MRS.PRATIMA DIXIT.BOTH THE OBSTACLES WERE REMOVED BY TIME.TODAY AFTERNOON I CALLED TO THE OFFICE OF AICTE MEMBER SECRATARY MR RAO.ONE LADY TOOK THE PHONE AND ENQUIRED THE MATTER.SHE TOLD IT WILL TAKE ANOTHER 2 OR 3 MONTHS.IT IS A BARE REALITY THAT WE HAVE NO ORGANISATION OR ASSOCIATION EVEN IN THE STATE LEVEL BUT WE ARE THE HIGHEST CLASS IN THE TEACHING FRATERNITY.THE MAZDOOR WORKING IN INDIAN RAILWAYS AND THE LINE MEN WORKING IN THE ELECTRICITY BOARD ARE ERNING MUCH THAN OUR SALARIES.WE ARE INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE NO FORCE OR VOICE.SO IT IS HIGH TIME TO UNITE.BUT IT IS SO LATE FOR AN UNION AT THIS JUNCTURE.SO MY HUMBLE REQUEST IS ,EVERY USER OF THIS HUB SHOULD DIRECTLY GO TO THE MHRD MINISTERS PERSONAL WEBSITE AND GIVE OUR GRIEVANCE DIRECTLY.THE MINISTERS PERSONAL WEBSITE IS WWW.KAPILSIBALMP.COM. HALF AN HOUR BACK I ADDRESSED OUR MATTER PERSONALLY.THE MINISTER'S INTERVENTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION .THE PRIVATE INSTITUTION LOBY IS SO STRONG AND THEY ARE THE ONE AND ONLY FORCE BEHIND THIS DELAY.ONE MONTH DELAY CAN MAKE THEM SAVE CRORES.SO NEVER HESITATE TO ADDRESS THE MATTER IN FRONT OF OUR HONARABLE MINISTER.
after how much time, 6th pay will be applicable for pvt engineering, pharmacy & management college. who will pressurise them for this? AICTE or?
after how much time, 6th pay will be applicable for pvt engineering, pharmacy & management college. who will pressurise them for this? AICTE or?
after how much time, 6th pay will be applicable for pvt engineering, pharmacy & management college. who will pressurise them for this? AICTE or?
Aicte is bullshit
Have any latest information for implementation of AICTE Pay scale as per 6th pay commission in technical Institution including polytechnic colleges, please inform us through this .
Thank u for your suggestion
Already it has been brought to the notice of AICTE, New Delhi by the State govt. of Karnataka. Since the matter has been finalized in the court, there is a positive reply from the AICTE, New Delhi. We are waiting for the AICTE New Delhi comments about this, whether they will form a committe or finalize themselves to revise and announce the pay scales to the technical staff of engineering colleges.
I DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE AICTE WOULD OFFER TO TEACHERS.
I DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE AICTE WOULD OFFER TO TEACHERS.
I DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE AICTE WOULD OFFER TO TEACHERS.
Now UGC fitment tables are out, AICTE should wake up, take initiative and finalise Mehta Committee report recommendations and come out with nofification within a couple of weeks. Because of such slumber state of AICTE, Higher education has not benefitted and there are moves to bring in Council for Higher Education as new regulator in place of AICTE. Why our Associations also not doing anything to remind AICTE? Send urgent memorandum to ministry of HRD and AICTE and tell your members what you intend to do to get your pay scales revised. Other wise AICTE track record is pretty bad. 1996 revision UGC notified in Oct. 1998 and AICTE notified in March 2000. Why all our associations are so non responsive too?
FINALLY THE FITMENT TABLES FOR UGC ARE OUT FROM THE MINISTRY.(see mhrd website,in the announcement part).ITS HIGH TIME FOR PRATIMA TO WAKE UP AND BRUSH .
Dear Manjunath,
I know that most of the Technical Institutes (Engg Colleges) in Karnataka are not giving AICTE pay scales to their staff. But on paper they will show to AICTE, that they are paying...... AICTE may be knowing this.... but they are very much interested in other matters. Implemenation of high court order is mandatory on the part of Govt of Karnataka. My suggestion is that it is better to approach higher education ministry of Karnataka in this matter...
recently aicte committe take a decison to implement AICTE pay scales to the technical staff (helper cadre to foreman cadre) of the engineering colleges of karnataka, as per the directions of the high court of karnataka. what about the details
HRD MINISTRY should keen watch the self finance institutions.most of the institutions cheating their faculties.A right action must be need to rectify the above mentioned problem.
The Govt India must understand the hardship faced by a technical teaching fraternity due to delay in implementation of AICTE pay scales. It seems that ministry of HRD is relaxed mode, as no more election for another five years!!!!. I hope our Hon'ble HRD Minister Shri. Kapil Sibbal will understand the difficulty of Technical Teachers of Govt institutes/other technical institutes and issue necessary guidelines for implementation of revised (sixth pay commission) AICTE pay scales at the earliest.
Its really shameful scenario in our country, for the technical teachers..Great institutions...like IITs...great teachers..doing splendid research and developmental works.. These govt peaple/politicians are feeling proud for such huge scale of development in our country...but they fail to understand that technical teachers are actually the backbone of of the performance of our country and rise at the global front. The people who should receive maximum respect, are infact being humiliated and insulted.. Great Shame for our country !!!!
All Central Govt employees are started getting revised sixth pay scales from Sept 2008 and also got 40% pay arrears. But even after lapse of 10-months, AICTE has not announced revised pay scales. It is really very sad part on Technical Teachers who are under AICTE pay scale !!!!!! It seems that AICTE is purposely delaying announcement of new pay scales in the behest of private institutes lobby.
Is revision in the norms of professor/director's qualification/age reported by Mehta, will be binding on AICTE?
Secondly, AICTE is sluggish in terms of notification about any change in norms.
Let us know the ways and means to pressurise AICTE for quick annoncement.
The formation of new revision committee under Kulkarni is absolutely false. Mehta report is scheduled to be submitted on 10th June. It seems Mehta committee has completed revsion of Engg. college teachers pay . Now, Mehta committee has invited polytechnic teachers representatives to provide their opinion(on 7th June). Possibly this could be the last phase of their work. Hopefully, they might submit the report on 10th June. Implementation..... only god knows!!!
Dear All !
AICTE is so called governed by accademicians. Most of the faculties in technical and management PG colleges find that AICTE is in the strong hands of education related politiciations interested in contango (i.e. higher profit sharing). Most of the AICTE approved colleges are run by visiting faculties paid minimal salary. Neither good UG college standards are maintend nor job oriented education given in AICTE approved colleges presently. AICTE higher qualification norm not accomodating experienced teachers is responsible for this mess. For visiting temporary post faculties are not interested and many post are vacant.
AICTE website still display the same old qualification/age norms for the post of Professor/Director of Ph. D. with First Class @ PG in relevant subject having 10/15 years experience.
Though number of candidates approaching are few, AICTE is indirectly helping education profit shareres to run the colleges by visiting faculties.
While UGC long back in 1998 relaxed First Class @ PG to 50% for pass out before 1991 and SC/ST/OBC candidates as per their Notification of 1998 para 3 to be eligible for Professor/Director post.
Similarly, MHRD under their Notification No.1-32/2006-UII/U.I(i), New Delhi, dated 31st December 2008 relaxed the age of supper annuation upto 70 for Professor/Director/Pro-VC/VC post to accomodate experienced academicians.
AICTE is still rigid and neither Mehta nor Kulkarni Committee will be accepted by the education contangos.
AICTE body is cursed by technical/management faculties and students not giving full time teachers and experienced professor/director.
Before this June 20, AICTE should resolve the notification atleast in conformity with UGC and MHRD for uniformity in qualification/age norms, so that experienced full time teaching staff can be maintented.
What stops our Associations( ) that they can't meet the new HRD minister and speak about implementation of revised pay scales already approved. Have the great leaders of great teachers lost faith in themselves to lead or their members who support them. At least we shall know the philosophy of the new minister on this matter and what lies ahead for teachers and the students of this great country. It seems they have been gagged. Really, there is no statement, no info, circular, news or excitement from their side. What has gone wrong with them all -state or centre level associations. And IIMs and IITs are anothe lot wha seem the least interested in their revised pay scales. Are they ascetics of gurukul days ? Not really. Not understandable really. Will some one comment?
State Government & Central Government has already implemented sith pay commision reccomendations.Ugc has also paid pay hikes for its teachers. A stable central government has already been formed.Then how long will Aicte take to publish its pay reccomendation and impement it for its teachnical teachers including polytechnic teachers ?
UGC FITMENT TABLES OUT.DOWNLOAD FROM GIRIDHARMADRAS.BLOGSPOT.COM
Prof. Nandkumar,
Please specify the matter clearly new Committee in place of Govardhan Mehta Committee.
let the revision being implemented by 2015
ITS VERY UNFORTUNATE TO HEAR THAT MEHTA COMMITTEE RECOMENDATIONS WERE REJECTED BY THE UNION GOVT.TEACHERS BECAME THE SCAPE GOAT FOR SIBAL-ARJUN RIFT.UNION GOVT IS PLANNING TO FORM A NEW COMMISSION UNDER PROF KULKARNI TO REVISE THE PAY FOR TECH TEACHERS.
ITS VERY UNFORTUNATE TO HEAR THAT MEHTA COMMITTEE RECOMENDATIONS WERE REJECTED BY THE UNION GOVT.TEACHERS BECAME THE SCAPE GOAT FOR SIBAL-ARJUN RIFT.UNION GOVT IS PLANNING TO FORM A NEW COMMISSION UNDER PROF KULKARNI TO REVISE THE PAY FOR TECH TEACHERS.
bakhwas bandh karo
keep it up pratima.you r the most qualified person to have tech education head
never revise the pay of teachers further more.already they are earning too much.common man'tax should not be wasted .it should be directed for the development of nation.giving proffessors 80000 per month is undigestable.
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But, the techical teachers salary is very less compared to their students, who have graduated just one year back.
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It is indeed a state of shame that the technical teachers are humiliated and deprived of the 6th Pay Commission benefits. The country like India, is the largest trainers of human resources, which not only serves for the country but serves for the globe, and it is the teaching community who contributes to it. Not only that, the teaching community is the role model, who is not paid back from any sources rather than their salary, though works day and night with the philosophy of morality and knowledge for the sake of others. The teachers are the only role model to our nation. At the end of the day, if we look back, the teachers are under the poorest category in terms of salary earned per hour.
LET THE FORIEGN UNIVERSITIES COME FIRST .THEN GIVE MEHTA ADDITIONAL JOB OF REVISING THE PAY OF THEIR STAFF TOO.GIVE HIM ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.THEN HAVE HIS REPORT AND GIVE IT TO INTER MINISTERIAL COMMITTEE FOR PROCESSING. NEVER DISCLOSE ANYTHING AS IT MAY HARM NATIONAL SECURITY.MR Y.Q KHAN IS ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR THE MEHTA'S PROCESSED REPORT.THE PROCESSED REPORT SHOULD MAKE TO AND FRO MOTION BETWEEN MHRD AND FINANCE FOR MONTHS YEARS OR DECADES UNTIL THE LAST PERSON FROM THE TEACHER COMMUNITY BECOMES A BEGGAR
LET THE FORIEGN UNIVERSITIES COME FIRST .THEN GIVE MEHTA ADDITIONAL JOB OF REVISING THE PAY OF THEIR STAFF TOO.GIVE HIM ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.THEN HAVE HIS REPORT AND GIVE IT TO INTER MINISTERIAL COMMITTEE FOR PROCESSING. NEVER DISCLOSE ANYTHING AS IT MAY HARM NATIONAL SECURITY.MR Y.Q KHAN IS ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR THE MEHTA'S PROCESSED REPORT.THE PROCESSED REPORT SHOULD MAKE TO AND FRO MOTION BETWEEN MHRD AND FINANCE FOR MONTHS YEARS OR DECADES UNTIL THE LAST PERSON FROM THE TEACHER COMMUNITY BECOMES A BEGGAR
It is a shame on all of us to accept this ill treatment. We are not paid the hike which is due for us. What is the use of all of our qualifications? Whether it is Ph.D or our publications or our research?
It is a sort of game playing with our patience.
nothing regarding pay revision in 100 day plan.lets wait for 100 more days
ITS SHAME ON YOU MR ASOK BURMAN &THOMAS JOSEPH.QUIT FROM THE CHAIRMAN AND SECATARYSHIP
No need to hike pay of teachers now. After completing 4 years in govt. we will process.
Dear kumar Velu,
Who of some of us will take up with leading newspapers? It should be the Associations whatever( in name or real). If they are doing something at least they should mention it. If not doing, they should do it. They are backed by their members and they are not committing a crime by taking up the matter of pay revision that is justified, approved and long overdue. all of us should know what are the reasons at least ?
No unity among technical teachers, no combined effort among technical teachers, so No Pay Hike.
Some of us can write about our status to some Leading Newspapers. Let us see whether that provides any solution
What has happened to the pay revision to AICTE monitored Government Colleges?
What has happened to the pay revision to AICTE monitored Government Colleges?
1. DTF, DUTA, AIFUCTO have always talked big big things. They have not been able to get the fitment table released form MHRD or UGC for the last five months for the revised and approved pay scales by MHRD. 2.Have they lost faith in usefulness, importance , value and strength of the united teachers? 3.Every teacher must search his soul why teachers get the revision only after IAS and other Govt. staff gets the revision and that also after a year or two. 4. Analysis must be done as to who is to be blamed for this situation and take remedial steps. 5. HRD ministry that can not prepare fitment tables or has no talent in UGC to prepare fitment tables as per 6th pay comission scales, must delegate it to Teachers Associations who can do it fast and get it vetted from MHRD. Or MHRD should be transparent about the reaons for delay and how many years project it is for them so that teachers should not wait endlessly about the revised pay. This is really not fair. then there is one AICTE that has no bakbone of its own. They will be the last to follow the UGC pay gudieliens in entirety. All sorts of excuses are being made every time teachers meet them. 6. The real first reform needed is respecting the sentiments of the teaching community before anything else can be done.
Teachers, either agree or disagree. must express your views. Comments are invited from the right thinking teachers.
Dear Dr.Mehta,
Retired teachers of IIT/IIM/IISc etc etc also should have pension fixation as per your committee recommendation such that they also get the advantage of grade pay.If the experienced Professors join IIT/IIM etc in pay band-4 with Rs.48,000.00 + GP 12000.00. Then basic pension fixation for the Ex- professor of these Institutes should at least(if not more) be Rs.30000.00 as on 1.1.2006 as per AICTE pay structure accepted by Govardhan Mehta Committee.Hopefully the policy decision on pension fixation will appear in the internet soon. Thanks and regards.
Prof.K.K.Roy
There seems no activity on pay scales recommended by Mehta committee so far even after elections and minister taking charge. I teach in a private collge where there are no teachers associations. Associations of govt colleges /institutes/ universities may inform what has been happening on this front. Cenral Government Administrative officers were the first to benefit. Teachers are the last but "when" is the question.
Mr. Kapil Sibal is new HRD minister. Any reaction?
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I am from Gujarat. The Gujarat Govt has denied paying the transport allowance as per the sixth pay commission. Can the govt decide this way ? Of course, this is done for government officials...the decision regarding the technical teachers is still to come...
What is really happening at the end of AICTE ? Why the issue of our salary is not resolved ? The general elections are over, new ministry is under formation stage, the government should be approached for pressurizing the AICTE.
What is really happening at the end of AICTE ? Why the issue of our salary is not resolved ? The general elections are over, new ministry is under formation stage, the government should be approached for pressurizing the AICTE.
AICTE Pay revision :Meeting scheduled on 25 May 09
The meeting of AIFPTO office bearers with Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee to discuss various issues regarding pay commission is scheduled on Dt. 29-05-2009 at New Delhi
Actually, some professor on this hub had rightly written that all employee groups who were agressive in approach and mattered to ovt. as vote bank, have got the pay revision first. UGC teachers are next agressive but less so than Govt employees in number and vote bank priority. So no fitment table yet. AICTE regulated technical teachers are only a few thousands. On the top of it, AICTE efficency in functioning is well known. Even last revison in 1996, AICTE notification was out in March 2000 after Govt. and UGC had revised in October 1998. Unless they are chased actively, they are not going to do it even this time for a couple of years. But may be they are under attack for performance recently, may be they do it early this time. Lets be realistic about the whole situation. Respect for teachers and their valuable contribution is on nobody else minds except the teachers themselves. There is nothing to prove otherwise unfortunatley. Just writing on hubs will not help. Uniting thru Associations and persistently taking up with MHRD will only help. Please agree or disagree and keep this hub alive as it has yet not served its final purpose.
Dr. S.K Singh's view is very true...I endorse him
It seems there is nohope for teachers before August ,09. Very Unfortunate.
AICTE should clearly notify --- "the experience and qualifications of polytechnic teachers who have research capabilities, to be strictly consider for equivalent post in Degree level & Postgraduate teaching institutions.
Often it is seen that even a polytechnic teacher is having highy qualified and having research capabilities and is capale to teach UG & PG students, they are internaly not being considered for such opportunities by the selection comittee. Such discremmination should be immediately removed and should be clearly notify for eligibility.
AICTE should clearly notify --- "the experience and qualifications of polytechnic teachers who have research capabilities, to be strictly consider for equivalent post in Degree level & Postgraduate teaching institutions.
Often it is seen that even a polytechnic teacher is having highy qualified and having research capabilities and is capale to teach UG & PG students, they are internaly not being considered for such opportunities by the selection comittee. Such discremmination should be immediately removed and should be clearly notify for eligibility.
FOR TEACHERS THE NOTIFICATION WILL BE ISSUED AFTER THE GENERAL ELECTIONS BUT FOR PSU THIS WAS DONE WITHIN A WEEK OF SUBMISSION OF REPORT WHICH WAS MUCH LATER THAN CHADHA AND MEHTA COMIITTEES HAD SUBMITTED THEIR REPORTS. TEACHERS IN HIGHER EDUCATION AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION SHOULD NOTE THE DOUBLE STATNDARDS THAT UPA GOVT HAS PLAYED WITH THE TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN A POSITION OF ARM-TWISTING THE UPA GOVT, LIKE PSU OFFICERS . PLEASE DO REMEMBER THIS WHILE CASTING YOUR VOTE IN GENERAL ELECTIONS. NOW THE TEACHERS SHOULD WAKE UP AND SEE HOW MUCH UPA GOVT CARES FOR THEM AND HOW TO TEACH A LESSON TO THE DECEIVERS. PROBABLY THE BABUS IN THE MINISTRY WANTED A SENSE OF DISSATISFACTION AND FRUSTRATION AGAINST THE PRSENT GOVT TO GROW AND A STATE OF CONFUSION TO CREATE. PEOPLE WILL CERTAINLY VENT THIS FRUSTRATION THROUGH THEIR VOTES.
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over
We are still waiting for VIth pay commssion. Sir U can expect some progress only after general elections 2009 or even formation of govt don't expect anything before July-Aug'09. Since we are cows not bulls. No option at all except wait with calm. It was dicided when they announced the IR for we people.
/shiv
Any new news about implementation of 6th pay commission?
Yes, AICTE is the most currupt department of the country nowadays. One of the official at AICTE is from DTTE (on deputation), Govt of NCT of Delhi. I came to know that,he has given 1.5 Crore bribe just for stopping transfer from chandigarh to Jorhat. Is there someone who can ask from where he has arranged so much dreamed money. Generally, there is no provision of deputation from DTTE but due to long hand in politics, money back up he is enjoying like anything there. As and when some official raise voice he obliged him all the world ways. Kindly commnets.
shiv
New Delhi: As per a Parliamentary Committee report tabled in the Parliament on Friday, the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE) has failed to improve and streamline technical education in the country.
The report says, "The AICTE till date has failed to undertake any survey whatsoever leaving thereby the crucial mandate of making forecast about the needed growth and development in technical education unattended so far".
As per a series of reports on AICTE, it has been found that the council does not provide autonomy to the institutions even though its charter of duties provide for it.
It has also been found that around 62 foreign institutions were operating in India without any approval.
As a case in point, the committee cited the lopsided development of technical education in the country with a majority of institutes concentrated in peninsular India.
The committee has criticized AICTE's inability to take any additional task. "The council has failed completely in managing satisfactorily the programmes present under its purview", it said.
The committee also criticized AICTE for not undertaking any survey of the technical education currently prevailing in the country.
"AICTE till date has failed to undertake any survey whatsoever in the field of technical education leaving thereby the crucial mandate of making forecasts about the growth and development in technical education unattended so far", the report said.
Thanks professor,
U will be surprised that these days AICTE is not taking action on the MHRD orders. Moreover, when a application is submitted under RTI they are not ready to respond. Finally, on the pressure of CIC when it becomes essential AICTE replys with "No Information" about action taken on MHRD orders. I feel that now AICTE is only for approving the new courses and new colleges because there they can make extra money. They are not concerned with the faculty development and other assigned work. There is a real need to raise voice against AICTE. It better to close such corrupt organisation. I have a lot to say but do not feel this as the correct plateform.
Hope a few of us, atleast may stand togetether to make a differece.
Jai Hind
The last word Jai Hind of last post on this hub page should not be the closing word of this hub. Be active. It is very clear that babus rule supreme in Govt sector, they are most organised work force in government sector, they are the first to get the benefits, they become the leading guide and do never allow others to get a better deal. This has always happened and it is not different this time too. No lessons taken from history. Why teachers always get in the end and if planning commission wants to give them a bit better deal recognising their important role in transforming India, they will not get it at all and whatever they get will come after years of wait and struggle. Last 5 th pay revision, Govt notification was in Octobe 1998 and AICTE notification was in March, 2000. I think the so called intellgentia can undestand why they meet this fate time and again. Analysis needs to be advanced to sythesis.
Suggestion
it has been found that there is a vast difference between the scale of a assistand professor AGP3 (formly readers) and that of the associate professors. This is because of the change in the paybands. I hereby suggest to announce the minimum pay fro different AGP in order to reduce the difference to some extent and yet follow the MHRD rules.
Assistant professor AGP1 (formly lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 6000 Minimum pay 15600
Assistant professor AGP2 (formly Sr. lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 7000 Minimum pay 24600
Assistant professor AGP3 (formly Sl.Grade lecturer/ reader) scale 15600-39100 AGP 8000 Minimum pay 34600
Associate professor (Reader with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 9000 Minimum pay 37400
Professor (Associate prof. with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 10000 Minimum pay 47400
Sr. Professor (Prof. with 10 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 12000 Minimum pay 57400
Then only the scale will be justified.
Jai Hind
Suggestionit has been found that there is a vast difference between the scale of a assistand professor AGP3 (formly readers) and that of the associate professors. This is because of the change in the paybands. I hereby suggest to announce the minimum pay fro different AGP in order to reduce the difference to some extent and yet follow the MHRD rules.
Assistant professor AGP1 (formly lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 6000 Minimum pay 15600Assistant professor AGP2 (formly Sr. lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 7000 Minimum pay 24600Assistant professor AGP3 (formly Sl.Grade lecturer/ reader) scale 15600-39100 AGP 8000 Minimum pay 34600
Associate professor (Reader with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 9000 Minimum pay 37400Professor (Associate prof. with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 10000 Minimum pay 47400Sr. Professor (Prof. with 10 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 12000 Minimum pay 57400
Then only the scale will be justified.
Jai Hind
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AICTE Pay revision : Report only after general election
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over.
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AICTE Pay revision : Report only after general election
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over.
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AICTE Pay revision : Report only after general election
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over.
Respected Mr Raj Kumar & Prof Arora,
In search of a platform to raise our (Technical Teachers) voice why don't u contact the office bearerers of like AIFPTO and AGOTE for the mutual and common grivences. I am giving u the contact details of respective General Secretaries of both the association(s).
Mr N. Chandra Sekhar, General Secretary, AIFPTO, 09848536871
Dr S. Banerjee, General Secretary, AGOTE, 09873004750
Kindly unite for survival of the community.
We have to thank Prof.V.K. for giving us the names and phone numbers of the Contact Persons. Let us all ask our other technical teachers to interact with them.
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Respected Mr Raj Kumar & Prof Arora,
In search of a platform to raise our (Technical Teachers) voice why don't u contact the office bearerers of like AIFPTO and AGOTE for the mutual and common grivences. I am giving u the contact details of respective General Secretaries of both the association(s).
Mr N. Chandra Sekhar, General Secretary, AIFPTO, 09848536871
Dr S. Banerjee, General Secretary, AGOTE, 09873004750
Kindly unite for survival of the community.
Dear Prof.Arora,
With regard to specification of what should be done, by whom and how and when and where, We have to first initiate the awareness among our college faculty members , then within the State and then to the entire country. This is going to be a step by step process. Let us now atleast initiate the process. Let us start Technical Teachers Associations. Let us talk to the general public about this issue. How many of us discuss this issue with other friends of ours, Who are in other professions? We have to follow the example of UGC Teachers. We have to completely ignore the teachers who are in private management institutes/Engineering colleges. Some of them will be happy if they get their salary in time. There are many faculties who did not get their salary on a monthly basis. The core discussion pertains to Government Technical Institutions.
Dear Mr. Raj Kumar,
Please specify what should be done, by whom and how and when and where. If there are any Technical Teachers Associations, they should take the lead, make public and media aware of the issue, send delegation with memorandum to MHRD, AICTE, Prime Minister. See their response, if they are not responding, then take a call on further action as suggested by you. UGC Teachers were more alert and active, hence they got their scalea and arrears too. Technical teachers do not have any associations , most likely 80% teachers are in private management institutes/Engineering colleges and fear reprisals for taking wage revision issues. Some do not get even full 5th pay comm scales. Many get consolidated contractual salaries. Hence no unity, no common voice. Hence no results on pay front. I hope I sound convincing. If not, please come back.
Dear Technical Teachers,
It is very evident that if and only if , we, all Technical Teachers become united and request the Government unitedly as a mass to implement the 6th Pay , We will not get the pay in the near future. What prevents us from doing that? Why don't we create a awareness among all of us? Not only, we are now losing our pay which is due for us and also our reputation. Are we inferior? Are we not qualified? Are we not doing our duties regularly? Why we have to be silent?
Not applicable to polytechnics
Is Mehat committee report is applicable for Polytechnic Teachers ?
Raise some collective voice, or wait for another year.
What about the revision for state engineering colleges
JUSTICE DELAYED IMPLIES JUSTICE DENIED. HERE, JUSTICE PERTAINS TO 6th PAY
JUSTICE DELAYED IMPLIES JUSTICE DENIED. HERE, JUSTICE PERTAINS TO 6th PAY
It is not the time to play pranks with the emotions of teachers- this job is already being done by the AICTE, HRD, and the rubbish, incomplete and childish report of Mehta Committee. Of course, there is one way to forget misery for some time to remain in good humour, that is to indulge in humour. But, it shoud not be at the expenses of one's emotions. Aggrieved people are hurt badly.
Let us ponder on what the Mehta committeee suggests - Have a PhD degree and get less thaan what a BE holder gets in private jots or in other govt. departments. The report is perhaps a headache for the MHRD, that's why the delay. Have patience! Mhrd will find out something new! Large scale research is going on there.
It is not the time to play pranks with the emotions of teachers- this job is already being done by the AICTE, HRD, and the rubbish, incomplete and childish report of Mehta Committee. Of course, there is one way to forget misery for some time to remain in good humour, that is to indulge in humour. But, it shoud not be at the expenses of one's emotions. Aggrieved people are hurt badly.
Let us ponder on what the Mehta committeee suggests - Have a PhD degree and get less thaan what a BE holder gets in private jots or in other govt. departments. The report is perhaps a headache for the MHRD, that's why the delay. Have patience! Mhrd will find out something new! Large scale research is going on there.
stop this useless discussions,all will happen at the time.Don't be anxious,concentrate on teaching
stop this useless discussions,all will happen at the time.Don't be anxious,concentrate on teaching
Hi San
They will be terminated.
What will happen to Assistant Professors who have completed 3 years of service in the pay sale of 12000-18300 as on 1.1.2006
and for those who completed three yesrs in the pay scale of 1200-18300 after 1.1.2006
Is Mehtha report is applicable to degree level technical educational institutions
Will aicte report will be accepted
will cabinet approve aicte revised pay scale report 2009
will cabinet approve aicte revised pay scale report 2009
will cabinet approve aicte revised pay scale report 2009
better to go to giridharmadrs.blogspot.com
Mehta committee report is available athttp://www.ziddu.com/download/4024895/Mehta_report any body can download if interested.vkt
Mehta committee report is available athttp://www.ziddu.com/download/4024895/Mehta_report body can download if interested.vkt
we want six pay commission beeter than ugc beause we have technical education.
Please note the correct link for full Mehta committee report as under:
Dear All,
Summarized recommendations of Govardhan Mehta Committee report for Faculty, Scientific/Design staff of Central Technical Institutes are available on the hubRevised UGC Pay Scales- From 6 PRC to implementation: Issues & Opinions
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In my opinion pressure of private engineering institutions is the only cause of this delay. We can not do any thing without organizing at national level.
My question is that after AICTE has implemented their new pay scales according to 6th pay commision, will the authority of pvt. engg. college follow the same?
Don't worry,the revision will be realized by this year end
The owners of private colleges are pressurising the AICTE to delay the process as far as possible.I think the process will not be in motion until the new admission (June-July) is started.
The Political leaders are after votes.So the first payscale out was for general employees. Then according to the numbers, the school teachers. Then the non-technical lecturers/professors. We, the technical teachers are least in numbers and hence are at the minimum preferential level.
AICTE is holding reputed Management Institutes and Engineering colleges also who even are willing and waiting for AICTE notification to implement. Problem is none of the AICTE bosses read this hubpage to take note of feelings of teachers affected by their inaction.And it seems their pay stands already revised.
AICTE is useless and currupt body. They are taking bribe from owners of private Engineering Coleges to delay the sixth pay commission implementation.
AICTE should expedite pay rivision
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Hi Ravi and others who are jealous about polytechnics
Spare few minutes to read and think.
It seems you (Ravi) have a bad perception with regard to polytechnics and polytechnic teachers. Polytechnics produce middle level technicians who are the backbone of indian industrial work force. Ironicaly, childeren of middle class people opt polytechnic education. Diploma holders fare well in field work/maintainace etc where engineers fail/resist to work. Keeping this in mind, AICTE has made lot of efforts to improve polytechnic education in India ( this thrust is continued even in 11th plan creating 1000 polytechnics against few IITs/central univesities). One such effort of AICTE is extending the AICTE pay scales to the teachers to attract qualified engineers into polytyechnic fold. Till recently, because of ever increasing demand for BE/ME from industry, polytechnics were facing the shortage of teachers ( I remenber, AICTE had made GATE compulsory for polytechnic teachers. Karnatak PSC received only one applicant for 500+ posts. Subsequently AICTE scrapped that criterion). In fact, even today, in many states diploma holders are teaching in polytechnics. In view of AICTE extending the payscales for polytechnics, many people with BE/ME qualification entered polytechnics . And today, more than 50% of polytechnic teachers are postgraduate engineers. 1996 AICTE pay scales prescribed the entry level criterion same as for Engg. colleges. As far as CAS is concerend, Selection Grade scale for MEs and Senior scale fo BEs were given. BEs can not go beyond senior scales in polytechnics (this is of course,diluted in some states due to local conditions). This information is not known to many people who are grumbling on AICTE pay scales of polytechnic teachers. Since only MEs are eligible to become Selection grade lectures in polytechnics according to the existing AICTE scales, it is natural to expect the same criterion to continue.
And, as far as working conditions are concerned, most of the polytechnics are in rural areas. Imagine, unless lucartive pay scales are offered, how polytechnics could be run.
In any case most of the polytechnics ( Govt. polytechnics) are working better than first grade/UG colleges. When UG college lecturer having post graduation in science /humanitie are getting PB-4 why not for post graduate engineers?
We are not against offering good salaries for premier institure faculties although they produce the professionls for other countries. Come on tell me how much of IIT/IISc research is being used in INdia. We import even small electronic toy forgert about defence equipment. What I mean to say, even if you look at relevance, polytechnic products are more relevant than IIT graduates. Imagine a day with faulty TV/printer in your house. Fortunately, this has been understood by the policy makers and made appropriate efforts to improve the polytechnic education in India.
Polytechnic teachers' scales were never same as IITs or even Engg. colleg teachers. In IIT, a person gets 1200-420 basic at entry level. In polytechnics, with ME. it requires 6+5=11 years to get 1200-420 scale. How can you equate both. Try to under stand this. In Engg. college, there is a provision to become AP/P. In polytechnics they can not go beyond 1200-420 basic. This is the reality.
Finally. Ravi, I remember you had posted a comment saying all Lecturer were same irrespective of the stream. Why you are defying your earlier stand on this? Any way you have got PB-4. Why you are jeolous about qualified polytechnic teachers? Come on, change your mind set. It is really challenging to teach in polytechnics where the students are unlikely to have much of English background. By the time they come ou of polytechnics, they will be more or less professionals. That is the power of polytechnics and its teachers. Teaching IIT-JEE qualified student or offline distace learing student is not really a challenge.
I hope my posting will change your mind set,
any new news ?
Dear Kumar, Who is yadav? From where have you got this information? Kindly let us know.
sir,
please give the details of Polytechnic Lecturers Pay revision report whch was submitted recently to HRD
mehta`s second report for engg,diploma institutes submitted to yadav
Revision of pay of scientists following revision of pay scales of Central Government employees on recommendations of the VI CPC 13-JhDated, the March, 2009INDIAN COUNCIL OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCHKRISHI BHAWAN : NEW DELHIF.No. 1(1)j2009-Per.IVToThe Directors j Project Directors of ICAR Research Institutes j NRCs j ProjectDirectorates j BureauxSub.: Revision of pay of scientists following revision of pay scales of CentralGovernment employees on recommendations of the VI CPCReference is invited to Council's letter No. 1(1)j2009-Per.IV dated 6th March,2009 regarding revision of pay of scientists following revision of pay scales of CentralGovernment employees pursuant to VI CPC. The posts in the existing pay scale ofRs. 16400-22400 have been placed in the pay band of Rs. 37400-67000 with astipulation that those recruited on or after 1.1.09 would receive minimum of Rs.43000 + RGP of Rs. 10000. In partial modification of these instructions it has beendecided that minimum of Rs. 43000 would be admissible to those recruited directlyas per revised qualifications to be notified by ICAR separately. Those recruited on orafter 1.1.09 as per existing qualifications will be placed in pay band of Rs. 3740067000(with a minimum pay of Rs. 39690) + RGP of Rs. 10000. The Annexure videpara 2.2 of Council's letter No. 1(1)j2009-Per.IV dated 6th March, 2009 has beenrevised accordingly and is annexed with this letter.Yours faithfully,Copy to :1. PS to AM2. Secretary, Department of Expenditure, Ministry of Finance, North Block, NewDelhi3. Secretary, Department of Higher Education, Ministry of Human ResourceDevelopment, Shastri Bhawan, New Delhi4. Secretary, Department of Personnel & Training, North Block, New Delhi5. AS & FA, DARE6. Sr. PPS to DG7. PO, DIPA for ICAR website8. President, ARS Scientists Forum9. DS(P), ICAR10. Secretary, ASRB1AnnexureRevised pay of scientists w.e.f. 1.1.06DesignationScientist(i) Scientist8000-13500(ii) Scientist (Sr.Scale)10000-15200(iii)Scientist (Sel.Grade)12000-18300Sr. ScientistSr. Scientist12000-18300Revised Pay RevisedDesianationPay Band - Rs.15600-39100 + ScientistRGP of Rs. 6000Pay Band - Rs.15600-39100 + ScientistRGP of Rs. 7000Revised pay of incumbents inpositionIncumbents with 3 years service in Scientistthe scale of Rs.12000-18300 on1.1.06.Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Incumbents with less than 3 years Scientistservice on 1.1.06Pay Band - Rs.15600-39100+ RGP of Rs. 8000On completion of 3 years of service Scientistin the grade of Scientist (Sel.Grade) to be placed inPay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Note - In view of the considerableraise in effective pay between thetwo Pay Bands there shall be noadditional increment on movementfrom the Pay Band of Rs. 1560039100to the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000.To be re-designated as Sr. Scientist Sr. Scientiston acquirina Ph.D deareeRevised pay of incumbents inpositionIncumbents with 3 years service in Sr. Scientistthe scale of RS.12000-18300 on1.1.06.2Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Incumbents with less than 3 years Sr. Scientistservice on 1.1.06Pay Band - Rs.15600-39100+ RGP of Rs. 8000On completion of 3 years of service Sr. Scientistin the grade of Senior Scientist tobe placed inPay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Note - In view of the considerableraise in effective pay between thetwo Pay Bands there shall be noadditional increment on movementfrom the Pay Band of Rs. 1560039100to the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000.Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band Rs.37400-67000 + RGP of Sr. ScientistRs.9000 for those recruited directlyas per revised qualifications to benotified by leAR separatelyPay Band Rs.15600-39100 (with a Sr. Scientistminimum pay of Rs. 22320) + RGPof Rs. 8000 for those recruited onor after 1.1.09 as per existingqualificationsOn completion of 3 years service as Sr. ScientistSenior Scientist to be placed in PayBand Rs.37400-67000 + RGP of Rs.9000Note - In view of the considerableraise in effective pay between thetwo Pay Bands there shall be noadditional increment on movementfrom the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-139100 to the Pay Band of RS'I37400-67000. ~-----PrincipalScientist etc.(i) PrincipalScientist16400-22400(ii) ProjectCoordinator /ZonalCoordinator/NationalCoordinator,Head ofDivisions /RegionalCentres/Stations,Joint Directorof lCARinstitutes otherthan those inthefour DeemedUniversities &NAARM16400-224003Revised pay of incumbents inpositionPay Band - Rs. 37400-67000 +RGP of Rs. 10000Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 43000) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited directly as per revisedqualifications to be notified bylCAR separately.Pay Band - RS.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 39690) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited on or after 1.1.09 as perexisting qualifications.Revised pay of incumbents inpositionPay Band - Rs. 37400-67000 +RGP of Rs. 10000Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 43000) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited directly as per revisedqualifications to be notified bylCAR separately.Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 39690) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited on or after 1.1.09 as pereXisting qualifications.PrincipalScientistPrincipalScientistProjectCoordinator/ZonalCoordinator/NationalCoordinator,Head ofDivisions /RegionalCentres /Stations,Joint Directorof lCARinstitutesother thanthose in thefour DeemedUniversities &NAARM4RMP(i) Dy. Director Rs. 75000 fixedGeneral at ICARheadquartersRs. 25000/- fixed(ii) Director Rs. 75000 fixedNAARM,HyderabadRs. 25000/- fixed(iii) Directors of Rs. 75000 fixed + Rs. 5000 p.m.IARI, IVRI, NDRI, as Special AllowanceCIFERs. 25000/- fixedDy. DirectorGeneral atICARheadquartersDirectorNAARM,HyderabadDirectors ofIARI, IVRI,NDRI, CIFE(iv) Director /Project Director ofthe Institutes /National Bureaux/ NRC / ProjectDirectorate - ADGat ICARHeadquarters,Joint Director ofIARI, IVRI, NDRI,CIFE & NAARM16400-22400Revised pay of incumbents inpositionPay Band - Rs. 37400-67000 +RGP of Rs. 10000Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 43000) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited directly as per revisedqualifications to be notified byICAR separately.Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 39690) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited on or after 1.1.09 as perexisting qualifications.Director /ProjectDirector ofthe Institutes/ NationalBureaux /NRC / ProjectDirectorate ADGat ICARHeadquarters,Joint Directorof IARI, IVRI,NDRI, CIFE &NAARMFellowship(i) NationalFellow16400-224005
When ever the comparison occurs between the UGC & AICTE teachers ,work load of acte teachers is allows different in the sense of course subject..These are proffesional courses so efforts of teachers are alaways more than UGC teachers. To attract caliber peoples in this field the be paid extra professional allowance for this faculty. In this direction atcte should take the positive steps to give justice for engineering teachers.
Today, I have talked to Ms. Pratima Dixit (Director, TC, MHRD - concerned person regarding Pay revision of AICTE, 011-23386561). As per her comments, pay revision report for degree engg. college faculties may be submitted at the end of this month. At last she has talked to me (not like AICTE people, who always try to avoid). Other hub members are also requested to talk to her time to time, so that we may get some informaion at least (Since our status will not be published in any news paper as because they are concerned only about UGC people or IIT/IIM/NIT people).
The faculties in technical institutions must be better paid in terms scale, grade pay and allowances to attract quality teachers in Engg colleges. AICTE can consider pay scales recommended by UGC and MHRD Notification. However, It can provide additionally Professional Teaching Allowance for faculty comes under AICTE Purview. Also the promotion should be made faster.
The faculties in technical institutions must be better paid in terms scale, grade pay and allowances to attract quality teachers in Engg.colleges. AICTE can consider pay scales recommended by UGC and MHRD Notification. However, It can provide additionally Professional Teaching Allowance for faculty comes under AICTE Purview. Also the promotion should be made faster.
Minutes of the Second Executive Committee meeting of Pondicherry Engineering College Teachers Association (PECTA) held on 6th March 2009 between 3 PM to 4 PMThe following office bearers and Executive members were present:1. Dr. V. L. Narasimha2. Dr. R. Murugan3. Dr. G. Zayaraz4. Mr. A. Sathiamourthy5. Dr. Harish Kumar6. Dr. G. Ravi7. Dr. G. Gerald Moses8. Mr. S. Mourougapragash9. Dr. P. Sankar10. Dr. G. Ayyappan11. Ms. K. Priya12. Dr. V. Vijayalakshmi13. Mr. Ka. Selvaradjou14. Mr. D. Virappasamy.Sixth Pay Scale Implementation:Regarding Sixth pay scale implementation, it was resolved that the office bearers would meet Member Secretary as well as Education Secretary and request them to grant pay arrears in the lines of either Pondicherry University (40%) pending or 1.86 CPC pending or MHRD notification regarding interim relief. In this connection , the Secretary would fix up appointments with both M.S as well as E.S. Dr. Murugan and Dr. A. V. Raviprakash would gather information relating to pay scales implementation viz., fitment formula, Norms followed by other Universities regarding arrears.Grant of Two increments for completion of Ph.D through QIP Scheme:It is resolved that the Secretary would gather information relating to this issue and co-ordinate with PEC Office.Issues related to EEE faculty members:It is resolved to request the Principal cum Chairman of R& D to seek solution to the ongoing problem within a week’s time. Further the Principal need to facilitate the withdrawal of the Circular Dated 2/3/2009 bearing reference no PEC/EEE/RDC/2/512.Review of Membership:So far around 119 faculty members have paid their subscription and others may also be requested to pay their subscription.Executive members are requested to inform their colleagues to create emails in PEC domain. Those of them who are not presently having an email in the PEC domain may send an email to info@pec.edu requesting for creation of new email account.Other matters:Request the Principal to address the following issues:To restore past rules for book grant/ Membership of Professional bodiesIn continuation of the efforts of previous PECTA office bearers, Medical reimbursement relating to list of hospitals would be taken up.CGHS hospitals need to recognize PEC Faculty Members.Standardizing Income tax computations in the PECTA website.Re-nomination of new GB members in consultation with PECTA.Regarding deposits of GPF amount in the Treasury.
Not only the pay for IITs/IIMs/NITs/Engg. Colleges and other technical education institutes remains unrevised, no part of arrears paid , even the dearness allowance has not been revised for pre revised pay scales. As per calculations below, the DA from 01.07.08 has gone up from 47% to 54% (12% to 16% under 6 PC) and from 01.01.09, it has gone up frorm 54% to 64% (from 16% to 22% under 6PC). So, 17% DA has been very unduly denied to large section of teachers who remain in pre revised scales. The DA is calculated on Cunsumer Price Index for workers whereas inflation is measured as per Whole sale price index. So, some journalsits who do not have basic understanding of difference between inflation and CPI measures, had mistakenly dubbed grant of DA revision as poll bonus and sensationalised it unjustifiably showing lack of their basic knowledge about economic issues. Some one need to take up this issue too for removing some hardhship of teachers till revised scales are implemented.
As on
CPI Ind. Workers
5 PC calculation
5PC DA Rate
6 PC calculation
6PC DA Rate
01.01.08
606.53
606.53-306.33
----------------- x 100
306.33
- 50% merged
= 97.93%-50% merged= 47.93%
47%
606.53-536
---------------x 100
536
= 13%
12%
01.07.08
626.08
626.08-306.33
----------------- x 100
306.33
- 50% merged
=104.38-50% merged
= 54.38%
54%
626.08-536
-------------- x 100
536
= 16.80 %
16%
01.01.09
656.00
656-306.33
----------------- x 100 -50% merged
306.33
= 114.15=104.15-50% merged= 64.15%
64%
656-536
Is there any news regarding pay revision of Degree Engineering College Faculty?
Hi all
At last, IIT faculty forum has decided to protest against dely in implementing pay scales. For details see http://web.iitd.ac.in/~kaushal/ec1.pdf
Hi K.M. sridhara, it seems you wrote on this hub while sleeping. Please wake up and write. Bye
Atleast AICTE has to take up decissions to announce INTERIM relief . Bcos it take one or two year to announce the revised 6th pay.All other domain people enjoying the benifits of 6th pay. WHY not engineering faculty ?
What the hell AICTE, Prof Metha's pay revision committe is doing or are they still sleeping instead of doing their job? They should know, Govt. is not paying them new revised scale (6th cpc) for sleeping. So please all ask them to wake up and declare the 6th pay scale at the earliest.
Hi Sanchita
What you telling is correct. Please convey it to right people so that can wake up after listening to you.
What the hell AICTE, Prof Metha's pay revision committe is doing or they are still sleeping instead of doing their job? They should know, Govt. is not paying them new revised scale (6th cpc) for sleeping. So please all ask them to wake up and declare the 6th pay scale at the earliest.
FROM WHEN THE SCALE IS GOING TO IMPLY?WHAT ABOUT THE SCALE OF THE SELF FINANCED ENGG COLLEGES????
What about the laboratory assistant scale..................?.B'cause the Lab. Assistant play a major role in Engineering colleges...............So the revised pay scale must have to include their scale................Which is essential for every engineering colleges.................So try to notice on this matter.....
In response to Mr. Bhaskar ... this how our system works
As per MHRD's last notification, report for Degree & Deploma Engg. college has not been submited yet. What a funny & rediculus stage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO BODY IS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
http://www.education.nic.in/tech/tech_circulars.as
http://education.nic.in/TechnicalEdu/InterMinCom.p
State govt of west bengal has already declared pay commission(5th) which will be effective on and from april 1,2009 with a notional benefit w.e.f. Jan 1,2006 but arrears will be calculated from april 1,2008. But the lecturers/Sr lecturers of the state polytechnics those who have already received 8 years CAS benefit under old aicte norm are on the horns of a dilemma!! AICTE has not yet declared their pay revision where as election notification has already been declared today. Are the said teachers are going to get their revised pay/arrears/new CAS benifit (6 & 11 yrs) along with other govt employees???.........
State govt of west bengal has already declared pay commission(5th) which will be effective on and from april 1,2009 with a notional benefit w.e.f. Jan 1,2006 but arrears will be calculated from april 1,2008. But the lecturers/Sr lecturers of the state polytechnics those who have already received 8 years CAS benefit under old aicte norm are on the horns of a dilemma!! AICTE has not yet declared their pay revision where as election notification has already been declared today. Are the said teachers are going to get their revised pay/arrears/new CAS benifit (6 & 11 yrs) along with other govt employees???.........
State govt of west bengal has already declared pay commission(5th) which will be effective on and from april 1,2009 with a notional benefit w.e.f. Jan 1,2006 but arrears will be calculated from april 1,2008. But the lecturers/Sr lecturers of the state polytechnics those who have already received 8 years CAS benefit under old aicte norm are on the horns of a dilemma!! AICTE has not yet declared their pay revision where as election notification has already been declared today. Are the said teachers are going to get their revised pay/arrears/new CAS benifit (6 & 11 yrs) along with other govt employees???.........
The MHRD has formed an Inter-Ministerial Committee to process therecomandations of Prof. Govardhan Mehta Committee on 24/2/2009.This committee will submit the report within 3 Weeks.
The Govt will not listen anything till we cry and will do the same as DU teachers don central university teachers.
Dear all
Another committee!!
the only reason for this committee is that they want to delay payments to technical teachers. aAnd you can see that there is no teacher in this committee to fight for the technical teachers. poor techies since they cant fight they can be easily taken for a ride. If we dont do dharna march strike then dont expect to get new pay even in 2010.
please declare the 6th pay scale as early as possible.
Dear all
Pressurise the AICTE, Prof Metha and MHRD for releasing the pay revision committe report for Engineering Colleges coming under state Govt's(Govt as well as Govt Aided Engineering Colleges) at the earliest.
Dear all
Election dates announced. April 16-June 1. Technical teachers good bye till the formation of new government. UGC teachers the situation seems to be grim as the babus become all powerful now and wont listen to political masters.
They answered the same today
Hi all
I had called up Prof. Nrayana Rao's office on Friday (7th Feb) to enqire the status of the Engg. college and Polytechnics pay reports. The information from his PS is disturbing. It seems they require one more month to submit these reports. So, the pay revison for this section of teachers is, hopefully, after the elections.
Dear Ravi
Your information is too old. Any new info. regarding pay scales of technical teachers?
‘Poll bonus’ for tech teachersCHARU SUDAN KASTURI
New Delhi, Feb. 28: Faculty in all central technical education institutions, including the IITs and IIMs, will receive a one-time compensation for the likely delay in implementation of a promised salary hike.
The government has decided to dole out an “advance” sum for the faculty members, its anxiety over discontent in election season prevailing over its strategy to economise, top officials said.
The amount to be paid to each faculty member has been decided according to the position in the teaching hierarchy and will later be compensated against arrears due to them under the new pay regime.
The heads of the institutions — vice-chancellors or directors — are to receive Rs 2 lakh each, while professors have been allocated Rs 1.5 lakh each. The amount reduces to Rs 1 lakh for assistant professors and just below a lakh for associate professors and lecturers.
The human resource development ministry has issued an order notifying the provision of the “advance arrears” which are likely to accompany the salary in March, sources said.
The payment — some officials are jokingly calling it an “election bonus” — now will also help the government reduce the tax burden next year, the sources explained.
The one-time amount notification covers all faculty who are to benefit from the largesse proposed earlier this month by a central review panel under Goverdhan Mehta, the former Indian Institute of Science director.
Teachers at the National Institutes of Technology, the Indian Institutes of Information Technology, the Indian Institutes of Science Education and Research and the Schools of Planning and Architecture will benefit.
It also covers engineering colleges in central universities — so engineering teachers at Delhi University or Jadavpur University will receive the amount.
The decision to offer the advance arrears was taken amid the increasing likelihood that the government may not be able to implement before elections the unprecedented pay hikes proposed by a central review panel earlier this month. The pay hikes proposed by the panel need to be approved by the Union cabinet before they can be notified.
But the cabinet may not be in a position to clear the proposal before the announcement of elections. The declaration of the salary raise after the declaration of polls could attract charges of allurement from the Election Commission, officials fear.
The pay hike, once notified, will be with retrospective effect from January 1, 2006.
The “advance” amount will be deducted from the arrears due for the period from January 1, 2006, to the date of notification of the pay hike, and faculty members will receive the remainder as arrears.
The telegraph, 1 march, 09
Dear Softies (we technical teachers, including me, sorry if I have annoyed any one),
We and our teachers associations had been historically very soft and docile. But take heart, we had been getting a better deal always though late. Same thing is going to happen even this time. A little leaked Prof Mehta report had indicated slightly better deal for us and a still better deal for IITs/IIMs (who, pls note, rarely wrote a word on this hub page and had been very decent and quiet. Not even a hint from them for eagerness to get pay revised.)
For politicians, who can be a bigger vote bank? Imagine. They will give us a better deal but after elections so that the larger numbers dont get annoyed during election time which politicians cant afford. Hence to cover the little leakage of better deal for us, MHRD Minister came out with statement that he was not in favour of this difference bwteen humanities and other streams. Nothing further was revealed. Smaller numbers will get their due a bit late and otherwise also they do not mind delay as in the past. Never mind. Let us have a little bit more patience (surely, our patience sobriety will get rewarded after a few more months).
We need not think that the better deal proposed by the commitee for us may be reversed by the MHRD minister as he has exhibited his dislike for this. ( may be by not disclosing this plan of theirs , they do not want to annoy us during election time and will do this after elections and will bring us at par with university teachers by taking aways the one notch higher position enjoyed since long.) Want to know the source or basis of this hypothesis ? Now, come on, lets us be B+ve and hence not ask this at all.
All NITs (centrally funded institutions) based on MHRD order No.F-23-30/2008 TS dated 12.2.2009 have been given an interim relief Directors 2.5 lakhs Profs 2 lakh Asst profs1 lakh and lecturers 0.75 lakhs. That means no 6 th pay announcement before elections. Yesterday was the last day for any cabinet meeting
Ms. Pratima DikshitDirector
p.dikshit.edu@nic.in
91-11-2338656191-11-23381355 (Fax)
Ashok ThakurAdditional Secretary
Higher Education
athakur.edu@nic.in
91-11-23383202 91-11-23387797(Fax)
we can contact these two --- for more information.
Perhaps this issue was not discussed in the cabinet meeting today.Can we still hope to get the awaited pay revision declared before the Lok Sabha elections?
My request to all technical teachers : ACTION SPEAKS MORE THAN WORDS. No action means no 6th Pay.
The Govardhan Mehta committee has submitted the report. He Kept NIT and Other engineering Coleges at the Same Level while IIT/IIM are higher than this. It shows that it has included the Engineering Colleges also.
Dear Gautam
The report submitted on 9th Feb did not include Engg./polytechnics pay scales. See the previous postings of Mr.Prasad and Prof. Agarwal for other details.
Dear Gautam
The report submitted on 9th Feb did not include Engg./polytechnics pay scales.
Dear Rajesh and Friends
MHRD issued a notification for Goverdan Mehta committee on Sep'08 setting 3 months deadline to look into revision of IIT/IIM pay scales. Subsequently, on persistent enquiries to MHRD, additional responsibility of revising pay scales of Engg. colleges/polytechnics was given to the same committe in Dec'08 extending the term upto end Feb'09 (see http://www.education.nic.in/TechnicalEdu/PayCom-CI Meanwhile Prof. Mehta submitted the IIT/IIM/IISc revison report to MHRD on 9th Feb'09. Now they are working on Engg. college/polytechnics pay scales and are likely to submit the reports before 28th of this month. Prof. Narayanarao, AICTE secretaty has been appointed as secretary of the Mehta committee too. In this way Prof. Rao and AICTE have major role in pay revison of the all technical teachers. MHRD is mum on the contents of IIT/IIM pay reports. The reasons are unknown.
It is unfortunate that seetting(extending) of the committee to look into payscales of Engg. colleges/polytechnics is not publicised as is being done to IIT/IIM and UGC pay committees, thus, indirectky denying the opportunity for these sections of teachers to express their grieviences to the pay commitee. We should condemn this unitedly.
Dear friends, kindly call AICTE secretary Prof. Narayana rao for first hand information on these matters.
Dear All
The Mehta comittee was also givent the task for recommending pay for technical teachersof engineering and polytechniques library and physical egucation staff along with the earlier task of IIT/NIT/IIM IIIT pay scales. that's why extra time was given to the comittee and the report for all technical teachers has been submitted to MHRD.
http://education.nic.in/TechnicalEdu/PayCom-CIT.pd
Now today is the last day for cabinet to take up this matter and decide the fate of technical teachers. If not today then after the elections.As for the post by IIT faculty forum presidents mail that model code of conduct will not effect the pay revision I would just like to remind you all that this is parliament election and earlier UGC report was witheld/cabinet decision delayed for only assembly elections in five states.
So it is my sincere request to all IIT/NIT/IIM/ technical teachers to use ur good offices and links at MHRD and pressurise for putting this matter in todays casbinet meeting. I know we cannot go for strike /dharna/gherao or we would have got it before UGC. But still there is time, dont get into the trap of false promisses of MHRD official(Ms Dixit) that elections wont effect the pay revision and press for it's tabling in the todays cabinet meeting.hope you remember that it was sheduled to be announced on Jaanuary 3rd then by the end of January and now the feburary is about to finish, and if we miss it now then July-Aug 2009 hopefully.
The scenario is all confusing.What has been submitted by the Mehta committee and for whom is not yet clear.Why is has been kept confidential, what the govt. or the AICTE is doing is not known to anybody. Is there any remote possibility of the declaration of pay revision for technical teachers-from IIT's to Polytechnics-before moral code of conductfor Lok Sabha elections are declared? Can anybody share the latest position?
Dear Prof. Sankar and Raman, Can you kindly inform me that whether the report submitted by Prof. Mehta (as it was disclosed in Telegraph, 10th Feb-09) has included the pay revision of Degree Engg. College faculties or it has only concerned about the IIT/IISC/IIM ?
Now, if it has included the Degree Engg. College faculties, then why have you contacted to Mr. N. Rao (Member Secretary, AICTE) ? I am asking this since MHRD has not approved the recommendation and therefore at present AICTE has no role to play.
But, if this report has not included the pay revision of Degree Enngg. College faculties, then can you tell me what is the present status of Degree Engg. College Faculties' Pay revision report?
, February 23, 2009
UGC notification regarding revised pay scales soon HERE IS some good news for those college and university teachers who have been eagerly waiting for the University Grant Commission (UGC) letter on the implementation of the revised pay scales in line with the notification of the Ministry of Human Resources Development (HRD). UGC chairman and secretary, Prof Sukhdev Thorat has assured a 10-member delegation of the All India Federation of University and College Teachers’ Association (AIFUCTO) that a communication concerning the HRD notification, along with the fixation formula for implementation of the new pay scales would be sent within a couple of days to the Vice-Chancellors of universities and all state governments. Apart from this, the draft UGC regulations would be finalised after due consultation with the teachers’ association.Giving this information, the President of the MDU Teachers’ Association and one of the members of the delegation, Dr Wazir Nehra, said the delegation had met the UGC Chairman to seek the issue of the said communication at the earliest.“The UGC Chairman also talked with the Secretary of the Union Finance Ministry on the issue of the state government’s share in the grant and the secretary showed a positive response regarding the 100 per cent grant for the uniform implementation of pay scales for college and university teachers throughout India”, Nehra said, adding that the Finance Ministry had also approved the sanction of new posts and made budgetary provision for state universities. The HRD ministry had sent a communication to UGC and all state governments on December 31, 2008 concerning the implementation of the revised pay scales in respect of teachers and equivalent cadres in universities and colleges in line with the recommendations of the Sixth Central Pay Commission. Despite this fact, most state governments had not acted so far on the communication. According to the HRD notification, all Reader/Selection Grade teachers who had completed three years of service in the scale of Rs 12,000-Rs 18300 would be designated as Associate Professors automatically. Besides, DPE’s would be designated as Associate Professors on the same pattern.Nehra said the delegation later met the Haryana Chief Minister, Bhupinder Singh Hooda and submitted a memorandum demanding early implementation of pay scales in line with the HRD notification. The Chief Minister assured that the new pay scales for college and university teachers would be implemented soon, in line with the notification.Source: merinews
Mr Secretary Pecta
Many teachers associations have represented to AICTE. Now it is better to represent to PM or HRD Minister (preferably PM). Even if we represent to AICTE, the useless fellows will not accelerate their work.
Dear Prof. Arora
Actually I am the Secretary of Pondicherry engineering College, Govt. of Pondicherry. I would like to convey my resentment on behalf of the teaching
community. I am also appealing in the lines of Prof. Arora , communicating
our resentment to AICTE.
Prof, can you tell me whom should we send the representation..?
Is any association interested in Joining ?
Regards
Scy, PECTA
The AICTE is requested to upload the pay commission report as soon as it will get the caninet sanction and should work in favour of teachers, not in favour of businessman. Otherwise the body of AICTE will collapse as is the recommendation of the knowledge commission.
Dear Office bearers of Teachers Associations of IITs or IIMs or NITs/ Engineering colleges at state or national level, please take note of suggestions on this hubpage. ( private sector teachers can never do so as they will be fired as soon as they become such activists)
It is not proper that any one and every one start calling the AICTE top brass. There are office bearers and top brass of Teachers Associations or Directors of IITs /IIMs/ NITs/ Govt. Engineering colleges who should call the AICTE functionaries or send memorandum expressing feelings of the teaching community in technical institutions. If you have a look at similar UGC pay revision hubpage, you will know the level of efforts those people and their associations have made to share the concerns and interpretations and interest of various sections of teachers that has yielded results. We, technical teachers will be getting something because of their activistm only and then at the straight pleasure and convenience of the bureaucrats in MHRD because our office bearers are not so active, may be, we have resigned to fate "whatever is destined is destined, why annoy MHRD bosses, ultimately they are going to give something, more or less , sooner or later, why bother so much , let us concentrate on our duties and responsibilities for excellence and nothing else- on the lines of true GEETA Gyanam." There is nothing wrong as long as all of us agree with this style or philosophy or thinking. I think we should have next level of activism now looking to what has been happening. How many of us agree to these views?
immediate intervention of the matter by our prime minister is required.communicte the problem to our pm by any body around delhi could solve it.otherwise many teachers coming under various states lose many benifits.the election commission is keen in notifying the dates this week itself.as april 6 being the first phase of polling out of 6 phases.the whole process only ends by may 30.once the E.C notifies.the code of conduct comes in to force.
WHAT TO DO?
WHAT TO DO?
It is indeed a sorry state of teachers working in a govt. engineering colleges. non teaching staff are drawing higher pay than the current pay of the teaching community. more time AICTE takes to act more will be the unrest among the teaching fraternity. AICTE should at least release an interim order suggesting to implement the UGC scales till such time it comes out with its own.
May be we can think of fixing the responsibility on aicte
Prof. Sankar and Pay Saviour
Dr. Narayana Rao threatens to stop the pay revision work if we call him. He treats our enquiries as interruption. This was my experience when I called him.
What to do? Whom to compalin? What thsese people were doing all these days?
It is unfotunate that the Govt. is shedding tears for deficiency of teachers( especially tecnical and medical) and now ignoring the existing teachers. What these so called IIT/IIM teachers are doing ( may be busy with consultancy). These people raise their voice on reservation and fee fixation and keep mum on pay revision. These people are sure of getting arrears even if the revision is delayed. UGC teachers too get the arrears ( UGC funds). What about technical teachers working under state Govts, and private institutes. They are bound to loose areears. Inefficiency of AICTE/MHRD is causing them to loose arrears.
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AICTE SHOULD CHECK ITS ATTITUDE FOR IT HAS REALLY SUCCEEDED
IN FRUSTRATING THE TECHNICAL TEACHERS..
today i made a call to prof.Narayana rao,member of mehta commission .He said the aicte notification probably comes out by the end of this month.Later in the evening from times now channel it was heard that the election commission will notify the dates by the end of this week.It is so pathetic to our community who suffer every time.IT IS HIGH TIME FOR US TO RESPOND TOMORROW ITSELF.MAKE CALLS TO AICTE OFFICE CONTINUOUSLY AND MAKE THEM VIGILANT OF THE SITUATION.
It is very clear from the various notifications or clarifications on payment of revised salary and release for arrears for government employees, state governement employees and university teachers happening from time to time only after the particular section has gone on strike countrywide or statewide. We technical teachers will get in the last (of course we will get ultimately for the sake of parities in education service) when the MHRD bureucrats are free and feel like clearing the proposal. Some of us are requesting MHRD thru thier post on this hubpage. I dont think any one from AICTE or MHRD opens this page to read it as they are not concerned. The Teachers' Associations office bearers need to immediately send one memorandum to the MHRD minsiter at least if they do not want to give strike call( as hardly any one will follow them given their docile nature as compared to bold and agressive stance taken DUTA and FEDCUTA. or AIFUCTO. May be because of them only technical teachers will get pay revised when ever it will be revised.
ALLAHBAD: This year's Holi would be sweeter for around 800 teachers of the Allahabad University and its constituent colleges as the authorities of the varsity have released an order regarding disbursement of 40 per cent of their Sixth Pay Commission arrears. "The orders have been signed on February 21 and the amount of arrears would be transferred to respective accounts in the first week of March," said JN Mishra, officiating finance officer, AU. "The new pay scales, recommended by the Sixth Pay Commission, are effective from January 1, 2006," he added. Besides, giving the arrears, the varsity authorities have also issued orders sanctioning payment of two increments to constituent college teachers who have a PhD. The orders meet a longstanding demand of the college teachers as their university counterparts were already getting the increments. The pay revision order paves way for all AU professors, including the vice-chancellor, getting Rs 2.5 lakh, all readers, both of the varsity and the colleges, getting Rs 1.5 lakh and all lecturers getting Rs 1 lakh as arrears. The university plans to disburse the remaining (60 per cent) amount once it gets the all-clear from the University Grants Commission (UGC). The varsity is set to bear a burden of about Rs 15 cr disbursing the said amount. The order, issued by the varsity registrar Firdaus A Wani, has been sent to all heads of departments, directors of institutes and principals of the constituent colleges. The disbursement is on an ad-hoc basis as it would be disbursed only after taking an undertaking from all beneficiaries that in case of any variation, teachers would have to payback the amount of variation. Now, with the said two orders meeting out the two major demands of the nine-point charter of demands forwarded by the Allahabad University and Constituent Colleges' Teachers' Association (AUCCTA), it would be interesting to see its implications on the massive dharna scheduled to be staged at the AU North Hall on February 28.
AICTE should declare the notification for the 6th pay for teachers of Engineering Colleges/NITs/IITs etc. The Basic pay Structures and cadare should be same as UGC notification but some kind of Technical allowance, other incentives like one Foreign trips per year or per Semester should be given to teachers. Provision of this type of incentives makes the uniformity in the teacher community across the country as well as give benifits to technical teachers.
The MHRD is also requested to get it done as early as possible.
As per communication from Prof. Sunil Pandey, Ph.D. Department of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Delhi Hauz Khas, New Delhi Ms. Dixit at MHRD told him that elections won't affect the process since it is already on and 6th pay cmmission report has already been announced. This positiion advised by Ms Dixit is not corrrect . MHRD had waited till completion of state bye elections and the results and had announced the pay revision for University teachers only after that was over on 18.12.08 inspite of Prof Chadha having submitted report before announcement of state elections and Govt staff having received the revised salary from Sept.08 with 40% arrears.
The election notification is expected any time now not later than 5th March 09. If the issue is put up before the cabinet committee and it clears the revision before election notification, then other things can carry on and revised salray can be paid by April or so, otherwide revision will take effect in June and implementation will take another three months as has happened in univeirty teachers case and still fit ment tables are not yet prepared after two months from 30.12.08, the date of notifcation. It is historical fact that technical teachers have never agitated and it has taken more than a year always for effecting their pay revision after Govt. Staff had been paid. I think we all should ask the MHRD, why it so happens all the time in the case of technical teachers only when there ia very tall talk about technical teachers of IITs/ NITS/ Eng. colleges, IIMs and Management and Medical Education's great contribution and value in buliding India.
The time is ripe for submission of urgent memorandum by the concerned Technical Teachers Associations to MHRD minister within a couple of days to make them aware of sentiments of technical teachers from all the instituitions. Unless we do this, the issue will linger on and on.
Dear Prof. A. B. Bano and Asutosh
Do not post the unrelaible information here. If you post something regarding pay revision of Technical teachers, kindly indicate the source/link. Do not confuse already disgusted teachers.
See the Asutosh's posting' Mehta report is out'. This information is absolutely rediculus. Even the IIT faculty associations have not requsted for such figures.
Asutosh, do not be childish henceforth.
AICTE PAY REVISION NOTIFICATION BY MHRD ONLY AFTER GEN ELECTION
No pay commission arrears to be paid before elections More than 8.3 million central government employees and pensioners will have to wait till at least August 2009 to receive the second instalment of Sixth Pay Commission arrears.This became clear from the Interim Budget presented last week, which has not sought Parliamentary approval in its expenditure estimates for the first four months of the next fiscal starting April 2009, said a senior finance ministry official.The government is estimating a total spend of Rs 47,500 crore for implementing the Sixth Pay Commission in the current and next financial year. Around Rs 27,000 crore is towards payment of arrears, as the implementation is from 2006.
Pay hike for Bengal government employees State government employees of Bengal will get a 30% hike in pay from April 1 on an average. Asim Dasgupta,Finance Minister announced this onThursday.The Pay Commission's recommendations were submitted to chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee on Thursday.The Pay hike will benefit 1 million employees and about 400,000 pensioners.The Pay Commission recommended paying employees their arrears with effect from April 1, 2008, in three annual instalments, preferably from 2009-10.The minimum basic pay recommended now is Rs 6,600. The commission recommended a minimum pension of Rs 3,300 and a maximum of Rs 35,000. The commission also suggested that pending instalments of DA be paid at an early date. All future instalments of DA should be released twice a year like that done by the Center. The recommendations also include increasing the maximum gratuity payable to Rs 6 lakh from Rs 2.5 lakh and medical allowance had been revised to Rs 300 per month from Rs 100.
Whosoever i.e whatever section of employees have resorted to agitaion or strikes have got their pay revised. So, far it is clear that Govt listens only when employees are in agitation mode. The President or General Secretary of Federation of Associations of Teachers of various institutions /IIMs/IITs/ Engineering Colleges/ Management Institutes must write/communicate immediately to MHRD that if this section of teachers are not threatening to go on strike or have not resorted to strikes for revision of pay scales, that never means they will never do so if they get the last or least priority because of being good natured and sophisticated. And if they do not listen, then agitation should follow promptly. I hope every teacher with self respect will agree.
Who seover i.e whatever section of employess have resolrtedt o agitaion, strikes have got their pay revised. So, far it is clear that Govt listens only when employees are in agitation mode. The President or General Secretary of Federation of Associations of Teachers of various institutions /IIMs/IITs/ Engineering Colleges/ Management Institutes must write/communicate immediately to MHRD that if this section of teachers are not threatening to go on strike or have not resorted to strikes for revision of pay scales, that never means they will never do so if they get the last or least priority because of being good natured and sophisticated. And if they do not listen, then agitation should follow promptly. I hope every teacher with self respect will agree.
A longest spell of 13 years gone.pay revised for mps,mla"s,governers,ministers ,president,prime minister,judges,central govt employees,psu"s.etc.......
Teachers,the makers of nation and the doctors,preservers of health are left alone
Dear Asutosh ,
Can you tell me the source ... you spelling out the pay scales of mehta's report..
it would useful
Regards
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Dear Asutosh ,
Can you tell me the source ... you spelling out the pay scales of mehta's report..
it would useful
Regards
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ugc scales implimented in west bengal and thripura
Asutosh, can u let us know the source link to these figures. or provide some more dtails. Are these figures for IIT/IIMs?
MEHTA REPORT OUT.
LECTURER, SR LECTURER ,READER/ASSO PROF ,PROFFESSOR
1)40,000 PLUS 10000 TGP PLUS DA PLUS HRA PLUS TR ALLOWANCE
2)50,000 PLUS 12000 TGP PLUS DA PLUS HRA PLUS TR ALLOWANCES
3)60,000 PLUS 15000 TGP PLUS DA PLUS HRA PLUS TR ALLOWANCES
4)125000 CONSOLIDATED
wake up idiots wake up
Hi Mr. Thomas
Sacking of AICTE is on the way. For details see www.ugc.ac.in. A committee is already been formed to sack UGC and AICTE. You can provide your view on it.
By the way, the problem is not with AICTE. It is with the idiot, useless, budda professors who are running the show there. They r very keen in granting affiliations ( even for useless institutions) rather than this kind(revising scales) work for obvious reasons. These Idiots were sleeping for fast 3 years. They remembered the revison (due as on 1/1/06) after cental Govt. implemented, UGC finalised the pay scales. Even now those Idiots are defending their misdeeds. Who will be the sufferer? ultimately teachers who are eagerly waiting for these scales. In the process, many teachers are likely ( except central govt. teachers) loose the arrears and fitment benifits because of thsese idiots.
central govt is going to constitute a new commission under prof. kulkarni to revise wages of teachers coming under medical education scheme just before general election notification
this aicte pay revision is only for engg wing ?
what abot the medical education wing?
this aicte pay revision is only for engg wing ?
what abot the medical education wing?
this aicte pay revision is only for engg wing ?
what abot the medical education wing?
sack aicte as our mps said in parliament
why the report from mehta so confidential?whats the need for making it confidential?already he has wasted five months and the general election is on its way
is he alive or not?
In support of my previous blog, I am giving herewith the referred mail, which is self explanatory
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All Hon'ble Members of IITTA, Kharagpur
Date: 17.2.2009
Dear Colleagues,
It seems that the ministry will take more time and we have to exercise more patience before we get our sixth pay revised. Kindly find enclosed/attached herewith a message received from the President of IIT Federation. I humbly request for your kind suggestions.
Regards,
Prof. P. Guha
G Sec
IITTA
Kharagpur
Dear All I have been trying to contact almost all in the MHRD for the last few days. Finally could speak to Ms Dikshit; Director who is handling the file. She flatly expressed inability to divulge any content of the report saying that it is still the confidential document and will be provided only after the MHRD puts it up to the Cabinet. MHRD has formed a committee to discuss the pay committee report and the whole process may take up around two weeks but there can be some delay due to some serious objections the finance committee has raised on the UGC report. Our case will be finalised only after sorting out the UGC matter now. She also told me that elections won't affect the process since it is already on and 6th pay cmmission report has already been announced. Our Director has also expressed his inability by saying that Directors are out of the loop. I will keep you posted.Prof. Sunil Pandey, Ph.d. Department of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Delhi Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110 016, India. (O) (011) 2659 1134, (Lab) (011) 2659 6754 (R) (011) 2652 4678, (011) 2659 1587 Fax: (011) 2659 1134, (011) 2658 2053, (011) 2658 2037 email spandey@mech.iitd.ernet.in, pandeysunil@yahoo.com
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Dear Colleagues,
It seems that the ministry will take more time and we have to exercise more patience before we get our sixth pay revised. Kindly find enclosed/attached herewith a message received from the President of IIT Federation. I humbly request for your kind suggestions.
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Prof. P. Guha
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Dear All I have been trying to contact almost all in the MHRD for the last few days. Finally could speak to Ms Dikshit; Director who is handling the file. She flatly expressed inability to divulge any content of the report saying that it is still the confidential document and will be provided only after the MHRD puts it up to the Cabinet. MHRD has formed a committee to discuss the pay committee report and the whole process may take up around two weeks but there can be some delay due to some serious objections the finance committee has raised on the UGC report. Our case will be finalised only after sorting out the UGC matter now. She also told me that elections won't affect the process since it is already on and 6th pay cmmission report has already been announced. Our Director has also expressed his inability by saying that Directors are out of the loop. I will keep you posted.Prof. Sunil Pandey, Ph.d. Department of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Delhi Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110 016, India. (O) (011) 2659 1134, (Lab) (011) 2659 6754 (R) (011) 2652 4678, (011) 2659 1587 Fax: (011) 2659 1134, (011) 2658 2053, (011) 2658 2037 email spandey@mech.iitd.ernet.in, pandeysunil@yahoo.com
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Hi Asutosh On FD concurence MHRD notified the UGC scales and UGC is now in the process of announcing the final notification. Probably, the dely in submitting pay reports of Engg./Medical/Polytechnics could be the reason for dely in notifying the IIT/IIM pay sclaes. The deadline for these reports in 28th Feb.
Yesterday, A mail was sent to all IIT-Kharagpur faculties(through webmail, by the G.S. of their association), stating that their president from IIT-Delhi (Mechanical Engg. Deptt) went to MHRD to follow-up the Prof. Mehta's report and came to know that it would take another two to three weeks to place in the cabinet. Not only that It might take further time since, finance deptt had raised some objections against UGC report. Until this objections are solved, this report will not be placed to the cabinet.
So, What Next??????.........We don't know what is the fate of faculties of other technical colleges. Whether It will be declared with IIT or will it take further more time????????????????????????????
In his remarks while submitting pay report of IIT/IIMs, Prof. Mehta pointed out the historical mistake of equating technical teachers with humanities teachers and he said he has corrected it by proposing 10% more than UGC pay. However, the next day, Mr. Arjun Singh (MHRD minister) clasrified that All teachers are equal. What does it show? We, technical teachers may not get better deal than UGC this time too.
I agree with Dr. KKR, IIT deserves better pay package..
Polytechnic teachers would be getting on par with engineering teachers..
I hope .. let us keep our fingers crossed for one week.. as the report is expected to be out next week...
what is the pay package for polytechnic teachers?
In international ranking IITs and IISc are far ahead of any one of the Indian Universities.There may be many reasons.Since I spent 42 years of my life in a IIT system as a student,as a research fellow and as a teacher,I must say that IITs and IISc are more disciplined institutes. Students politics, supported by the outside political parties, are absent.No politics,supported by outside political parties,is there in faculties.On an average Ph.D thesis levels are better in presence of many predoctoral requirements.Many such points can be brought forward.That is why IIT/IISc teachers deserve better pay scales.Admittedly there are many brilliant Professors in the Indian Universities.But when the average weight of an institute is fixed based on might be 20 criteria,IITs/IISc are found to be a little heavier by the international agencies who fixes the ranking.
As per notification a directly appointed UGC Professor will start with a salary higher than the minimum of the pay scale and so also a person promoted to the post of Professor,however a retired profesors's pesion will be simply half of the minimum of the pay scale.Government should take care to remove this anamoly and see that such anamoly may not occur while announcing new scales for technical teachers.The pension of retired Professor should be at least one half of the starting pay of newly appointed Professor rather than half of the Mininmum of the scale
committee looking into pay review for teachers of technicalinstitutes like IITs and IIMs has recommended pay hikes to stem thedismal situation of increasing vacancies.
The Govardhan Mehta Pay Review Committee has recommended highersalaries than University teachers for the faculties of centraltechnical institutions such as IITs, IIMs, NITs, IIITs and IISER. Ithas also suggested new incentives, including study trips abroad andbetter research facilities, to discourage the faculty from joiningprivate companies.
The report was submitted to the human resource ministry (HRD) recently.
Prof Govardhan Mehta, honorary professor of the Indian Institute ofSciences, Bangalore, said: "IITs and IIMs are exceptional institutionswith a global presence. We should not only have an attractive pay forthe teachers, to attract new talent, but also incentives to retain theexisting talent." Explaining the demand for a difference in the pay ofthe faculty in the technical institutions over the universities, Mehtasaid, "We are dealing with technical and professional institutes. Wehave to see to it that we stimulate knowledge in these institutions."Keeping in mind the staggering pay being offered by the corporates,the committee suggested revision of the existing pay scale,accompanied with the innovative incentives.
It said research facilities and study trips abroad were some such waysto make teaching at the technical institutions attractive.
"We have looked at it holistically, rather than looking at just thesalary scale components," Meheta said.
The committee submitted its report after referring to both the SixthPay Commission and the Chadha Committee on salary hikes for universityand college teachers.
The Chadha Committee had recommended a 70 per cent hike in pay forcollege teachers.
The report was submitted to the HRD ministry last year, but is yet tobe implemented.
HRD ministry sources ascribed the delay to the "incompetence" of theUniversity Grants Commission (UGC).
"After the notification, the UGC was expected to prepare the paystructures and issue the regulations. But we found it had bungled upin a major way in preparing the pay structures.
So, we had to take it over from them and prepare it ourselves," asource at the ministry said.
He added it was in the final stages and in all likelihood would beplaced before the finance ministry within a week.
University and college teachers had resorted to strikes last year,protesting the delay in submission of the Chadha Committee's report.
The Govardhan Mehta Committee, was expected to submit its report byJanuary 31, but delayed by a week and submitted it in the first weekof February.
There should not be any difference in the same college, let us wait for the reports.
Is there any difference in pay scales for Science and Engineering faculty in the same college.
it should apply to self financing too
Prof. goverdhan mehta report is applicable for self financing Technical institution ?
Tuesday, February 10, 2009Raise hope for tech teachers : Mehta confirmed having submitted report but did not divulge details.
Faculty at the IITs, IIMs and other technical education institutions will receive salary hikes accompanied by a bouquet of perks and research incentives under a pre-election package to be unveiled by the government.
Besides, teachers in hundreds of university engineering colleges and in the National Institutes of Technology will for the first time receive higher pay than provided by the University Grants Commission, The Telegraph has learnt.
Faculty in the IITs and the IIMs already receive salaries higher than UGC scales — their pay will now rise further.
A central technical education pay review panel headed by former Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, director Goverdhan Mehta has recommended that salaries for all technical education teachers be raised higher than that of university teachers.
The panel submitted its report to higher education secretary R.P. Agrawal on Friday, sources said. Mehta confirmed that he had submitted the report to the human resource development ministry, but did not divulge details.
But government sources said the report for the first time aimed to correct a “historic” imbalance in the pay structure of faculty in India.
At present, teachers at the NITs and in engineering, management or architecture colleges of universities receive the same salaries as their counterparts in humanities or the pure sciences.
The private sector demand for qualified professionals is, however, significantly higher than the demand for those trained in the humanities and the sciences, officials said.
“We were losing the best brains from these institutions to the private sector. The Goverdhan Mehta committee’s recommendations, which we are likely to accept, will work towards correcting this historic imbalance,” a ministry official said.
The committee in its report, however, has not accepted a demand of teachers at the NITs that their pay be brought on a par with that of IIT faculty. “The NITs and university teachers of technical education will receive a pay a step higher than other university teachers. The IITs and IIMs will receive a take-home salary another step high,” the official said.
An earlier panel had on an average recommended a salary hike of 70 per cent — the Mehta committee’s recommendations, sources indicated, could improve that by around 10 per cent.
Source : The Telegraph., Dated 10th Feb,2009
IITs and IISc have started or will start soon giving incentive to those who are fellows of some well known academies,viz,F.N.A.,F.A.Sc,F.N.A.Sc,F.I.EEE and many other societies in different disciplines of science and engineering.It includes Shanti swarupBhatnagar award and other prestigious awards.Some such practices be there in Universities also.Those who have retired with distinctions in academics be also included because they have retired because of age bar.But they are quite active.Incentives for age only in sixth PC raises this comment.
Please see the earlier postings Prof. Gover. Mehta has been given
time up to 20th feb to submit his recommendations...
When will 6th pay commission be implemented? Who will answer this 1000 dollar question?
The AICTE is requested from the technical teaching community to announce the 6th pay commission for teachnical teachers as early as possible so that teachers should get the new pay and arrears in this financial year only.
It is expected that the Metha committee will make announcement on 21st of
february. But the system of 3 tier as recommended in UGC shall be adopted for engineering colleges otherwise it showcase the biasedness and result in huge morale blow to the NIT faculty as four tier structure is not prevalent in IITs
My request to Prof.Mehta is please take proper care of Physical Education persionals,working in these engg. institutes dealing with the creams of the nation and help developing there physical proficiency to deliver.Phy.edn.personals are the the most neglected lots in such great institutes.Pl,specify proper designation,sevice conditions,qualification.and alsoPl, do hurry in submitting your report.
I do agree with Mr.Kumar. JUSTICE DELAYED means JUSTICE DENIED.
The faculty have to give a representation to the Government highlighting their resentment in the delay in implementation of 6th Pay. All the other Government servants have got the benefit of 6th PAy. Why only the teachers ( the ‘architects’ of the nation ) have not been given this benefit? We, the teaching community have to do something
Please let me know about the pay band of readers who are appointed through direct selection in 2007.
Thank you.
AICTE HAS BEEN GIVEN TIME UP TO FEBRUARY
I agree with Dr.Gupta's remarks. 'Words' are to act as 'catalyst' to enhance the action rate of AICTE. But, The teaching faculty also should initiate some actions to speed up the implementation of 6th Pay Commission. We have to register our feelings against this delay in the implementation of 6th Pay Commission.
‘Nations’ are built in class rooms, and teachers are the ‘architects’ of the nation.
Hope that AICTE takes care of these architects; and do the needful soon before it is too late. The matter is of utmost priority, the learned committee members know it.
My ‘words’ are intended to be ‘catalyst’ to enhance the action-rate.
F.No. 9-412007-TS.1
Government of India
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Department of Higher Education
Technical Section - I * * * * *
Shastri Bhawan, New Delhi
Dated : 29'" August, 2008
2-9- b s - b -
N O T I F I C A T I O N
In supersession of this Ministry's Notification dated 16.06.2008 and
08.07.2008, it has been decided to constitute a Committee for considering revision of
pay scales for faculty and ScientificIDesign staff of Central Technical Institutes under
the Ministry of Humall Resource Deveiopment. Now the revised composition of the
Pay Committee for Faculty and Scientific1 Design staff of Central Technical Institutes
under the Ministry of Human Resource Ilevelopment will be as under:
i. Prof. Govardhan Mehta,
Chairman, NAAC and
Former Director, IISc, Bangalore
Chairman
2. Shri Ashok Thakur, Member
Additional Secretary, Deptt. of HE,
Ministry of Hutnan Resource Development
3. Prof. Amitabha Ghosh,
(Ex-Director, IIT Kharagpur)
Flat-D2, 2"d Floor, 50/A, Coliege Road,
P .O. Botanic Garden,
Howrah - 7 1 1 103, West Bengal
Member
4. Prof. Pritam Singh, Member
Ex-Director, IIM, Lucknow
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5. Prof. P.N. Singh, ex-Director, NIT Suratkal Member
and presently Chairman, BOG, 'NIT Agartala
6. Dr. K. 1Varayana Rao,
Member Secretary, AICTE
Member Secretary
2. Terms of reference of the Committee are as under :
(i) Review the implementation of the previous decisions of the Council of
IITsI Government under the scheme of revision of pay scales approved
for Faculty, Scientific1 Design Staff and other Academic Staff of Central
Technical Institutes under the Ministry of HRD and in the process to
evaluate the extent to which the earlier recoillmendations in relation to
coverage, pay scales, qualifications & experience, mode of reci-uitment,
conditiorls of service etc., have been implemented;
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(ii) Examine the present structure of emoluments and conditipns of service
of Faculty, Scientific1 Design Staff and other Academic staff taking into
account the total benefits available like pension, accommodation,
medical facilities etc; and
(iii) Make recommendations for revised pay scales, qualifications &
experience, mode of recruitment, conditions of service etc., keeping in
view the necessity of attracting and retaining the best talents.
3. The Committee will initiate ilecessary studies and analysis with immediate
effect, like visiting each institute, discussion with members of the Council of IITs,
ChairmW Members of Board~of Governors, Directors1 Faculty1 Associations etc.
However, before finalizing the recommendations, the Committee will consider
recommendations of Sixth Pay Cornnli;.ision and Pay Committee set up by UGC so as
to formulate the recommendations in harmony with the recommendations of Sixth Pay
Cominissionl UGC.
4. The Committee will submit its recommendations within three months of the
decision taken by the Government of Illdia on the recommendations of the Sixth Pay
Commission.
5. The outstation Non-official members of the Committee will be entitled to draw
TAIDA as per scales admissible to High Powered Committees.
6. Secretarial Assistance to the Conlinittee will be provided by AICTE.
.--- %- (Seema Raj)
Director (Technical)
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2. All members of Council of IITs I llirectors of all Central Technical Institutes.
3. PS to HRM/ PS to
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4. FA (HRD) 1 All JSs in the Departillent of Education.
5. All Officers in the Technical Education Bureau.
ay & Accounts Office 1 Cash
No.9-412007-TS-IITS-11
Government of India
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Department of Higher Education
Tecl~nical Section-I1 ****
Dated the 23"" December, 2008.
N O T I F I C A T I O N
ln partial modilication of this Ministry's Notiiication No,9-42007-TS-I
clntecl 2.9.2008 (copy enclosed), it has been decidecl tliat :
1 . 'I'hc tel-111s oi'refe~.encc will also include:
"2.(iv) MaItc reco~~~a~entlations for rcviscd pay sci~lcs rt~rd contlitions of'
scrvicc of tcsclicrs, libruri:ins and I'hysicul Educatioa I'crsonl~cl of Dcgrcc lcvcl
institulio~~s and tcaclicrs of cliplo~na Icvel institutions. Thc Comn~ittec will givc
s c p i ~ a t c reports for centrally fundcd institutions, degree lcvel instilutiorls &
diplomzi lcvcl iustitutions"
2. l)a~.:rgrupli 4 will read as "The Co~nrnittee will submit its rccommcndutions
by the clitl of Fcbruiiry, 2009."
1. All Members of
2. All Direclors/ DS in
PS lo llRM 11's to D
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FA (NRD)/ All JSs in the Deptt, uf'Edu~ation.
5. All Ot'ticers in the Technical Education l3~1rcau.
FD/ 11;-I/ I'ay & A c ~ p ' n t s OOilei Cash Section.
Copy to Chairman, AICTE, New Delhi,
Hi All.
If AICTE is not submitting its recommendations of 6 pay scale for Engineering faculty by the end of this month (February 2009), What will be the general reaction of all the Engineering Faculty? -- None other than to start another new discussion forum.
Alas good news ! AICTE member secretary has promised that Prof. Gov. Mehta
would submit the report very soon.. most likely it seems 21st February would
be the great good day on which announcements is likely to come
After several months of hectic struggle, the MHRD has finally released the notification of sixth pay scales for the University teachers. However, the apex body, for Engineering education, AICTE is yet to notify the latest developments.
The commitee (Chadha-commitee), however, was for UGC/AICTE.
UGC seems to be moving ahead in this direction. AICTE should wake-up and act positively & immediately.
AICTE should announce as early as possible the recommendations of 6 pay scale for Engineering faculty..
good
medicl college teachers coming under aicte should get higher grade pay
The faculties in technical institutions must be better paid in terms scale, grade pay and allowances than the faculties of colleges/universities offering education in humanities & sciences. Also the promotion should be faster.
Aicte should recommend for a Technical grade pay at t
Aicte should recommend for a Technical grade pay at the
Aicte should recommend for a Technical grade pay
Mme Anbarasi pls. be optimistic
To The SIXTH PAY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR TEACHERS IN TECHNICAL EDUCATION, AICTE
The investment of labour, money, and mind for getting B.E./B.Tech., M.E./M.Tech. and Ph.D. in any branch of Engineering is much more than the getting degrees in Humanities, Commerce, & Science disciplines. The trend of opting the area of education in general is like that the best students stuff comes in Engineering Education, then next better stuff in Medical, then next better in Sciences and then the last stuff of students opt for humanities. The pass-outs (i.e. products) graduates/post graduates/Ph.Ds in Engineering are more productive and demanding in the industries/organizations/institutions etc. in general. The teaching & routine works performed by faculties of Engineering are more challenging. So the faculties of Engineering Education must be always much better paid, and should not be just same as humanities & sciences. The better scale & grade pay should be given to faculties of Engineering at each level of posts starting from entry level.
good news! i hope AICTE HAS FINISHED 4 SITTINGS OF DISCUSSION
IT SEEMS YOU CAN EXPECT THE GUIDLINES IN FEB
HOWEVER CONFLICT BET DIRECT AND CAS READERS IS YET TO BE RESOLVED
BY UGC AND AICTE...
Dear Friends,
All of us should get united and put pressure on AICTE to revise the pay of the teachers. If it is unable to do so, we shall ask AICTE to either issue Interim Relief as has been done in case of JAMIA Faculty or we should ask for the parity of 6CPC scales in the meantime. The Interim Relief or the fixation as per 6CPC will be adjusted against the AICTE pay scales which may be announced lateron. Otherwise the only persons, who will be suferer are going to be none other than AICTE faculty. All others will be enjoying the fruit of 6CPC and we will be getting lesser pay than our technicians.
AICTE has become useless body and almost functions as if there is no leadership.
A lecturer joined with Ph D should move to PB 4 as soon as he will move to Selection grade Lecturer.
AICTE need not constitute a seperate committee. It can consider pay scales recommended by UGC and MHRD Notification. However, It can provide additionally Professional Teaching Allowance for faculty comes under AICTE Purview.
is AICTE Thought of setting up a pay reviw comitee ? if so when
The AICTE pay scale should be better than a UGC teacher.Always a Technical college teachers have better aptitude. Therefore they should be better paid.
Very sad ! AICTE HAS TO BE FAST IN ITS OPERATION
aicte should at leat announce an interim pay package. because it will ceriainly take one more year for AICTE to get up and start. by that time implimentaion date and arrears will be a major problem.
I agree with Dr. SS ... may be we should go ahead..
RIT or RTI?
why discussing Mr.GZ...go ahead if you want...
wil filing RIT help in facilitating ?
When shall we expect notification from AICTE?
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I fully agree with Dr. Allah's views.The nomenclature/designation has to same as that of UGC faculty. Our leaders please be beware of this move of MHRD. This would spell a doom for polytechnic teachers. Mr. Chandrasekhar is the only leader who has gained credibility by honestly posting the things as they are.
What is the latest on Goverdhan Mehta Commitee? Someone said that some other committee to further examine has been formed? Can someone confirm the real scenario?
Dear All, While demanding parity in pay scales with that of Degree Engg. teachers we must also seek parity in the designations as well or else we will loose much in the longer run. So we need to support Mr. N.Chandra Shekhar in his efforts and act as per his guidance. Also we can create awareness of these updates n facts with the teachers from our colleges and polytechnics.
Dear Mr. N Chandrasekhar:
Ms Purandeswari Devi is already in Delhi since Monday (13th July) morning.Pl follow up with her if u can.
Thanks
Dear all,
Today, I have contacted Ms. Pratima Dixit on phone and enquired about the Pay Revision Report in respect of Polytechnics. She has informed that the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee has sought an extension till July 31st 2009 to finalise and submit the Report. Please be patient till the Report is submitted. Do not comment anyone. Please inform our Polytechnic teacher community. If there is any more news, I shall post it here. Thank you
Thanks a lot Mr. NCS (AIFPTO),
We all hope this should be the last extention givent to Prof. Govardhan Mehta Committee. Let us all be patient and wait for the outcome (and at the same time start for the preparations for the confrontations if needed).
I too appeal to all the hubbers that pl do not any bad comments on any person however strong your feeling might be. Mr. NCS is here to help get through. We all are sure about what exactly we expect from the new pay scales.
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Good news !! Lets hope...that the final decision would be taken by 31st July !!
Dear all,
Don't be so much worried if something happens in AICTE. One person is not everything. I am pretty sure that the Govt. will take care of our grievances without any further delay. Regarding my earlier post that the Report was submitted, it was from one of our Polytechnic friends who personally spoke to a Committee member who informed him that the Report was submitted. Sorry for the haste. I will keep you all informed of further happenings. Let us all be united and watchful. Thank you
Dear N.Chandra Sekhar Babu please keep us in touch with your latest information as soon as possible, we are now again in great anxiety after hearing the AICTE scam.
Dear alll
Till now all of were uttely sure about the corruption in AICTE But now is the nail on the same. Mr. Kapil Sipal, Hon Minister for MHRD should now act in haste and disolve AICTE n UGC as per Prof. Yashpal's report.
Read the news on http://www.zeenews.com/news547575.html .
I now wonder why the official was caught? Where did the deal went sour. For sure this excersize must not be the first time for that officers and the institute or is it only to prolong the acceptance of payscale orders. (Devils Mind: Yet another attempt from pvt. mngmts!)
Those officials can be indifferent to hardships and payscales of technical teachers only because they dont have to worry about it for thenselves. There are managements of various institutes taking care of their NEEDS.
it's now a high time to unite and strike .in our country it's a tragedy if you don't show protest or anger no politician will come to listen.
Hi all,
Teachnical teachers are very unlucky. The Goverdan Mehta committe took nearly 4-5 extensions to revise polytechnic and engg. college teachers pay, which MHRD under secratary/section officer could have done within a week.
The Goverdham mehata committe should feel ashamed of this.
Now the AICTE secretay has been caught by CBI in a bribe case. Most of the teachers in technical institutions know the modus operandi of AICTE officials corruption practices in inspections/recognitions etc. The failure of the tecnical teachers to completely understand the AICTE functioning is causing the delay!. The committee secretary might have expected the bribe from the teachers ( probably to oversee the bribe from the pvt mangements for delaying) for the submission of the report early. Now it might take one more year for submission of the report.
It is high time for technical teachers to unite and ask for the central pay commission ( usually headed by Judges) to revise their scales instead of giving to the committes consisting of corrupt/useless professors.
All technical teachers have to be united. We have to request our association's President to join with all other Associations. We have to plan a all India Technical Teachers strike immediately. We have to seek the attention of Press Members for this strike. It should be done at the earliest possible time.
All technical teachers have to be united. We have to request our association's President to join with all other Associations. We have to plan a all India Technical Teachers strike immediately. We have to seek the attention of Press Members for this strike. It should be done at the earliest possible time.
We all have been patient for a very long period . We have waited for the outcome, which is still now nothing. We have to plan for a strike. Many unions have initiated strike for many issues. Why don't we too join with them to strike ?
Dear All
We have to request MHRD to issue OM communicating to Chief/Education Secretaries of all state to permit for adopting MHRD notification dated 31 Dec 2008 for ad-hoc fixation of pay of teachers of technical institutions in the state pending the AICTE regulation.
The AICTE is busy with grabing the money from Engineering college owners so that each and every employee of AICTE can open their own colleges. It is evident from the yesterday incident, a high level officer is taking Rs. 5 lacs then why they will listen to technical teachers. The AICTE should be removed immediately and handed over to MHRD directly.
I support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
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support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
I don't think by requsting MHRD for ad-hoc arrangement anything will happen. After all they are also govt. official .Till any minister will involve ,MHRD will not pursue the plight of teachers.
Mehtaji ka anthim meeting kab hoga?
dont believe NCS.He is misleading you.Nothing will happen for the next three months.with in two months sibal is going to sack aicte,ugc and dec.single regulatory body will come to force.the new body will decide techy pay revision
Pls. refrain from using unparliamentary words..
that too in the name tag...
we are the beggars of teaching community. says:
22 hours ago
our techy pay commission was constituted on aug/2008.its almost an year lapsed.nothing came out.the six members of the commission are 1)prof.GovardhanMehta,former iisc director and Bhatnagar award recepient.2)AshokThakur,addnl sec,higher education.3)prof.AmithabaGhosh,ex director,iit kharagpur.4)prof.PritamSingh,ex director iim lucknow.5)profP.N.Singh,ex director,nit suratkal.6)K.Narayana Rao,Briber AICTE.All these stalwarts were given time up to dec 31,2008.Nothing happened.Extension was given for 4 weeks.Nothing happened.Again 3 weeks time given,report submitted on feb 29,2009.Following the submission.an interministerial committee was formedwith 15 to 20 members.Their work and progress is still unknown.on april first week PratimaDixit,director technical education stated that everything finished,but due to election code of conduct,it could be finalised only after may 16.MAY 16 ALSO OVER.again contacted pratima.she told that they are awaiting for ugc fitment tables.FITMENT TABLES HATCHED OUT ON JUNE 4.Contacted tech education office.they told mehtaji ka anthim meeting june 7 ko hoga.NOW NCS IS SAYING THAT MEHTA HAS GIVEN TIME UP TO JULY 31.BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS AND ABSURD TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL SUBMIT BRFORE JULY 31.
says:
21 hours ago
from now onwards we have to strengthen our struggle.STEP 1)frame out our grievance properly and fax our hrd ministers.FAX NO OF KAPIL SIBAL,011 23382365.Every points should be included.FAX NO OF D.PURENDESWARI.011 23387771. STRP 2.COTACT EVERY MEMBER OF OUR PAY COMMISSION 2 TIMES DAILY.1)PROF.MEHTA,RESI PHONE NO.080 22932200,FAX-080 23600283 2)ASHOK THAKUR PHONE OFF-011 23383202,FAX-011 23387797. 3)PROF.AMITHABAGHOSH RESI PHONE-033 26682424,FAX-033 26682916 4)PROF.PRITAM SINGH,E.MAIL-pritam@gmail.com 5)prof.P.N.SINGH MOBILE-09448368413.6)PRATIMA DIXIT OFF PHONE-011 23386561.ALL THESE MEMBERS SHOULD BE IRRITATED DAILY THEN ONLY THEY WILL DO SOMETHING
I do agree with Mr.PalaniVel, PEC. We have to request or go on for a strike to get pay at par with UGC. Now, Something is better than nothing. We have to become united.
Dear All,
Be patient, I have gone through the report submitted by Mehta Committee for technical teachers to MHRD and found that the recommendations made by the committe are far better than UGC pay. Now it is the responsibility of the MHRD to accept the report and publish it for implementation without any delay.
Dear CKS,
You say report for tech teacher is submitted, but the last date of submission is 31 Jul. Which one is true?
Half anhour back i called prof P.N Singh on his mobile phone from a public telephone booth pretending as an NDTV correspondant enquiring about the latest position of MEHTA COMMITTEE.He told that the complete work is over and they have already submitted the iit/iim pay revision report.now the compiling of nit,poly and other institutes coming under aicte are under progress.this will be submitted with in one month.He also said that the three tier and four tier system in institutions other than iit and iim will have the same master scale as recomended by prof.Chadha,with only differences in grade pay .
Dear All
Maharashtra teachers are better than technical teachers who have refused to work till they get their due. All our leaders are busy doing politics among themselves and want a seat in teachers union/forums so that the administration won't ask them to work and take classes. But no one is bothered about the bigger issue of pay scale implementation.
Let us all do one thing - that don't let your association/ union/ forum leader sit and gossip easily in corridors and canteens till they don't raise their voice for the pay scale implementation. If we can't go to Delhi at least we can make the nights of our leaders sleepless by commenting on their inaction and indifference attitude as they have enjoyed power from our vote and now they have failed to raise our common issues.
GREAT EXPECTATIONS ARE OVER.WE ARE COMPLETELY BETRAYED BY THE GOVT BY FORMING VARIOUS COMMISSIONS.THESE COMMISSIONS ARE ONLY TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC ACCOUNT BY THE BABUS AND POLITICIANS.IT IS NOW CLEAR THAT INSTITUTIONS OTHER THAN IIT AND IIM WILL BE HAVING THE PAY SCALES EQUIVALENT TO UGC WITH SLIGHT DIFFERANCE IN GRADE PAY (100 OR 200 RUPEES)KEEP IT UP UPA.KEEP IT UP.
marathas are really borne patriotic.dont be envious
good dawn everybody.iam an official of MHRD.I accidently came to this hub while surfing.I had gone through all comments.protests over pratinaji and prof.mehta found in some comments.it is not true.pratimaji is so pleasing,sincere and hard working.she raised this issue twice when arjun singhji was the minister.keenly insisted to bring the issue in 100 days plan.unfortunately senior officials to her set aside the matter in the very final moments.moreover her 2 or 3 cousins are teaching faculties of iit.regarding mehtaji,he is not only a proffessor but an eminent scientist.do you think he deliberately lags his report?absolutely not.He is punctual and responsible.IT IS THE ATTITUDE OF MINISTRY BEHIND THE DELAY OF AICTE PAY REVISION.SIBALJI IS LEAST BOTHERED.THE MINISTRY IS MAINLY ORIENTING ITS MIND ON THE BASE CLASS,THAT IS THE PRIMARY EDUCATION SECTOR.PROVIDING EDUCATION WITH NUTRITION UPTO 12 IS GOING TO BE ITS GOAL.SO NEVER CURSE ANYBODY FOR THE DELAYAL BUT THE MINISTRY TOP BRASS
Dear MHRD Official,
Please do suggest us the best way of showing our anger for this delay in implementing Sixth Pay to technical teachers
I THINK THE ONLY PRACTICAL STEP LEFT IS RAISING THE ISSUE THROUGH OUR MP'S IN PARLIMENT.PARTICULARLY THROUGH BJP MP'S.IN KERALA BJP HAS NO MPS.SO I HUMBLY REQUEST THE TEACHERS FROM NORTH TO CONTACT YOUR MPS AND PRESSURIZE THEM TO TAKE THE ISSUE IN PARLIMENT.I THINK THE MOST SUITABLE PERSON COULD BE DR MURALI MANOHAR JOSHI.BEING FORMER MHRD MINISTER ,HIS WORDS COULD BE BETTER HEARD THAN ANY OTHER.SO ALL TECH TEACHERS FROM EVERY DISTRICT,KINDLY CONTACT YOUR MPS AND RAISE THE ISSUE DURING QUESTION HOUR.
We can send a formal letter to the Chief Justice of Supreme Court. Based on this letter, the honourable supreme court can itself initiate action and send notice to the GOI. We can mention that we, the technical teachers are the only category left out from VI pay implementation. Definitely the court will take some action. This is my personnal suggestion. Please forgive me if I am wrong.
today hon minister D.Purendeshwariji stated in parliment that the central govt declared 129 institutions to be deemed universities.2)Govt is going to convert 14 universities to world class.3)introduction of RASHTRIYA MADYAMIK SIKSHA ABIYAN OR UNIVERSALASATION OF SECONDARY EDUCATION,allocating 1353 crores.4)mid day meal scheme in public schools with 100 assistance for certain components. WHAT IAM TRYING TO MAKE HERE IS THE NEW MINISTRY'S OVERSMARTNESS TO CREATE HALLOW OVER THE SHADOW.THEY ARE TRYING TO GET CLAPPINGS FROM THE PUBLIC BY INTRODUCING MORE AND MORE MAGICS.THEY ARE NOT AT ALL AWARE OF OUR PROBLEM OR PRETENDING BLIND.MR N CHANDRASHEKAR TOLD A WEEK BACK THAT THE MINISTER AFTER REACHING DELHI WII DO EVERYTHING.WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS WORDS?NOTHING.SIMPLY NOTHING
DONT SAY BLUNDERS.IF ANYBODY IN MHRD HEARS SUCH NONSENSE,WE WOULD BE DENIED EVEN THE PRESENT SCALES.RAJUJI BE CAUTIOUS
HOT NEWS******HOT NEWS*******HOT NEWS-AICTE PAY COMMISSION COULD BE FINALISED ONLY AFTER THE REMAND PERIOD OF PROF.NARAYANA RAO IS OVER.CERTAIN TECHNICAL FORMALITIES ARE REQUIRED
dont worry
every one (i.e. only technical teachers) will get sixth & seventh pay commision together
try to understand this fact that as we r very few in no.
so we have no impact on their vote bank
secondly
private colleges & their role????????????
Dear All
With reference to my previous floated comment few days back I once again inform you that the following similar clarification from MHRD may be requested/obtained as an interim arrangement until AICTE regulation is released.
MHRD Press Release
Thursday, February 12, 2009
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Government’s clarification regarding implementation of the decision on revision of pay scale of teachers in Universities and Colleges
16:58 IST
Government’s attention has been drawn to a news item appearing in certain sections of the print media alleging delay on the part of the Union Ministry of Human Resource Development and the UGC in implementing the decision on revision of pay scale of teachers in Universities and Colleges. It is clarified for general information that the MHRD has already issued Government’s decision vide communication No.1-32/2006-UII/UI(i) to UGC on 31.12.2008 revising pay with effect from 1.1.2006 and some of the service conditions of teachers and equivalent positions. Copies of the said communication were endorsed, among others, to Chief Secretaries of State Governments with clear advice in regard to what the State Governments are expected to do in order to be eligible for Central assistance. In view of this, no separate order is required to be issued to State Governments. Details of the scheme are also available on Ministry’s website. The scheme contains a provision that the revised pay and applicable allowances as also arrears up to 40% of the total arrears could be paid to all eligible beneficiaries under the scheme, pending issuance of regulations by the UGC. The UGC has, in the meantime, approached MHRD for guidance for preparation of fitment tables for various categories of incumbents. The finalisation of fitment tables does not stand in the way of teachers getting revised pay based on an undertaking to be given by them which has also been stated in paras 10 and 11 of the Ministry’s Orders. While the fitment tables are being finalised in consultation with the Ministry of Finance, many teachers are reported to have already received their salary under the revised scheme, based on ad hoc fixation of pay.
Dear Technical Teachers,
Please do involve yourself in your institution Associations. Let your institution Associations merge with all other teaching unions in your state and then, we can form a single national teachers union. We have to show to the Government that we are a majority. May be teachers alone be minority, what about our dependents, our families and our students. We have to draw the general public attention to this issue. We can not afford to go on waiting for VII pay.
NO one is ideal even mr. kapil sibal,until we get media attention and say some fuming words against mr. sibal .Nobody will listen
We are exchanging views and thoughts since months. But there is absolutely no impact over the responsible people in government. I fail to understand why such delay can occur in taking decision to give justified salaries to deserving technical teachers. Why we are being treated this way ??? This is rediculous...
I am agree with Sanket. In my opinion all engineering and polytechnic college teachers should start a nation wide agitation for this injustice.
I do agree with Prof.R.Jain and Prof.Sanket. We have to initiate a nation-wide agitation. For this, we have to promote unity among ourselves. We have to discuss with our institution's Association Office Bearers and express our views. We have to become united across all districts, all states. We have to do this exercise fast. Waiting any further will not help any of us. We should not expect that those technical professors in the top level, who get unauthorized money for college inspections and NBA Visits or a share of the consultancy money or indulge in private tutions will support us. All honest technical teachers will support us.
It seems to be a difficult option to get united quickly under a common platform. It requires time and coordinated efforts, but we should certainly do the same, even after receiving the Sixth pay. Following steps appear to be possible options to send a clear and serious message to concerned officials :
(1) A group of senior professors can initiate discussions with different media channels to bring this burning issue to surface...and to give it a wide publicity
(2) Technical teachers from different regions can form smaller groups to finally result in a huge association to tackle such problems in future
General elections re over.It will take an year to complte the formalities of revision
The Central Government has shown its true face. Rajiv Gandhi is a person who loves the teaching profession. But the present central government is very irresponsible that they are purposely delaying our pay revision. Just to win the election they had told us pay revision will be implemented after General elections.
What is there for them to think about implementing the pay revision even after three years of delay. Mr.Kapil Sibal is not taking any action on this. He is a very elegant person as far as I know and he has to take immediate measures to implement the pay revision.
We should convey our message through the media to create a strong impact.
Polytechnic teachers have two national organizations i.e. AIFPTO and NFPT. These organisations may initiate discussions with different media channels to bring this burning issue to surface...and to give it a wide publicity to the issue
MALKHANI COMMITTEE CONSTITUTED.UNION GOVERNMENT TODAY CONSTITUTED THREE MEMBER COMMITEE UNDER PROF.SACHDEV MALKHANI TO REVISE THE PAY STATUS OF TEACHERS COMING UNDER AICTE.AT THE SAME TIME ACCEPTED PROF MEHTA'S REPORT ON IIT/IIM PAY REVISION.THE TERMS OF REFERANCE OF MALKHANI COMMITTEE WILL BE ISSUED IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.THE COMMITTEE HAD GIVEN THREE MONTHS TIME TO SUBMIT REPORT.THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WILL BE GIVEN BY PERSONALS OF MHRD.THE OTHER TWO MEMBERS ARE PROF BIMAL KUMAR MANDAL AND PROF G.K ARYA.
thank you sibalji .gay ho
arjun is better than sibal
beggars are better than us.
Every people of India is fightng with the inflation rate through increased income except the technical teachers . What a situation is going on in the country? Shame shame shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Prof. Varghese,
Please confirm your last post. Does it mean that there was a cabinet meeting yesterday and the cabinet has accepted the Mehta's recommendations for IIT/IIM/NIT pay hikes?
Dear AB
The blog from Prof. Varghese means that the new committee will process prof. Mehta report. It is for delay only
Dear R Jain,
I saw your blog and beg to differ.
"UNION GOVERNMENT TODAY CONSTITUTED THREE MEMBER COMMITEE UNDER PROF.SACHDEV MALKHANI TO REVISE THE PAY STATUS OF TEACHERS COMING UNDER AICTE. AT THE SAME TIME ACCEPTED PROF MEHTA'S REPORT ON IIT/IIM PAY REVISION" literally means that the IIT/IIM/NIT part was accepted by the Govt. And Malkhani Committee was constituted for other AICTE teachers.
Dear AB
You may be right. We require clarification
Dear PROF.VARGHESE
Whether NITs are imcluded with IIT/IIM ?
Respected Technical Teachers,
Don't you feel that this constitution of different committees are cheating all of us? What prevents us to start a agitation?
The major problem is that All Senior Technical Professors are very much interested in getting their share as a member of NBA Visits or University Affiliation Committee or AICTE Committee to self-financing colleges. They got lot of money and other facilities. So, they never open their mouth for Sixth Pay Implementation.
Only the Assistant Professors and lecturers should take the lead in organizing strike
mehta commission report for iit,iim iisc,ism dhanbad(single report submitted on feb last week accepted)where as those for nit,engg colleges,poly technic.dental,pharmacy etc were rejected.it is for the rejected,the new commission under prof.malkhani constituted.mhrd will publish the terms of referance on 27-7-09
All technical teachers are requested to write their grievences to the honorable President of India by going to the president website.
Dear asutosh
NITs included in the single report submitted on feb last week by Govardhan Mehta. As per your information now NITs pay scales are not accepted by Cabinate.
Please make it more clear if you can.
Dear Prasit
I think you are correct. We should wait for detailed news
BREAKING NEWS**********************BREAKING NEWS********************BREAKING NEWS******PROF.MALKANI DIED OF HEART ATTACK.HE WAS ADMITTED HERE IN AIIMS THIS AFTERNOON FOLLOWING ANGINA
Dear JP
What is this ?????? I hope you are not kidding....
it is highly unfortunate.hope things will come favourable .
malkhani's demise would make our suffering lot more
Is this true?
naam ka kya jab six pay hi nahi.
If the above news related to NITs is correct then I request to all the respectable (except Prof)sleeping faculty members plz wake up and unite to go on hunger strike from coming monday.
Delay,delay,delay to the last breath is the only motto of respected HRD minister. It's better to raise the issue before ... PM,president or Mr. Rahul Gandhi.
In 100 days Mr. sibal wants to change education system by 180 degree but don' t do any thing for basic need.
Delay,delay,delay to the last breath is the only motto of respected HRD minister. It's better to raise the issue before ... PM,president or Mr. Rahul Gandhi.
In 100 days Mr. sibal wants to change education system by 180 degree but don' t do any thing for basic need.
All the teachers in place of giving suggestion on this blog are suggested to write to president of India directly by goinh to http\\:helpline.rb.nic.in and directly lodge their complaint. Definitely all the teachers will get the justice otherwise there is no solution.
should apply six pay in private engineering college affliated by uptu, lucknow
I am totally confused and frustrated too. Few days back, Prof.N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO wrote in this hub that upto 31st July had been extended for submission of Govordhan Mehta's report regarding Polytechnic college faculties' pay revision and as far as I know that our degree engg. college report has also not yet been placed to the cabinet ..... then how these two reports have been rejected by the cabinet and can be formed another new committee?????????? Is it only for NIT (as they were not happy with the Mehta's report) ??????? Therefore I am requesting to Dear PROF.VARGHESE or AB or Asutosh (who have written this news)to write in detail along with the source of your information. Otherwise it is very much confusing. kindly don't spread any rumor among the already depressed faculty groups.
If both BJP and communists starts to raise our issue in the parliament, we can expect fruitful news. Because it is already delayed to the maximum and even if the central government approve and implement the sixth pay the state governments will take few more months to read the report and to modify according to that states situation.The officers in the AGS will delay it furthermore due to their irresponsibility.
So instead of requesting the central government, we should take our problem to the opposition. They could definitely help us.
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on monday avery thing will be cleary
on monday avery thing wii be clear regarding report
is this is the spelling of your'everything' then it will be better for us to have no pay revision for ten years
Dear All,
Let us represent our issue to BJP,Communist, and all other opposition parties including A.D.M.K
Dear all,
If any one have details about what have written previous days about Malkhani Committee and his sad demise, PLzzzzzzz Share
I must say that we have a fantastic luck, because whenever something positive is going to form, some incident occurs and things go to where they were :(
Hai
Any news reg AICTE pay scales for engg college
Please update about the developments
This for your kind information. All technical teachers are going to strike from August 1, 2009.
Dear all friends, we can send our grievences regarding aicte pay for technical teachers to Miss Mamata Banerjee, the honourable Railway Minister, because she is trying her best to slove the problems of PTTI of West Bengal along with Central Finance Minister, Pranab Mukherjee and MHRD Minister Kapil Sibbal. The problems of PTTI are more critical than us. If she can solve their problems then defintite she can solve our problem. So let us inform her through e-mails.
even in Medical colleges the AICTE scales have to be implimented. can any one please through some light on
1.what would be the pay scale for an Assitant professor with basic of 14940 as on 1-1-2006
2. if some one acquire PhD degree during sevice how incrementss he is entilted? one UGC order says he is entiled for 2 increments provided he is not promoted to higher post.
Expenses of a normal person like us who lives in Chennai :
House Rent : 4000
school fees : 2000
Kitchen products : 4000
Vehicle maintenance(incl. petrol) : 1500
Current and Phone bill : 1000
Misc. expenses : 3000-4000
Total : Appr. 16000 or above and a lecturer's salary is 15000.
If this situation prevails for few more years then the teaching profession will have to lose many talented young professionals.
A student who gets placed in an MNC after completing B.Tech
usally gets above 20000 salary. But a lecturer after completing M.Tech and 5 years of service get only 15000.
Even if the government gives any exact information about the implementation timing we can act accordingly. But playing drama like this is not at all acceptable and it is a cheap mentality to play with our life.
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Govt processing panel's suggestion on IIT, IIM faculty's pay
28 Jul 2009, 1822 hrs IST, PTI
A committee set up to recommend revised pay scale for faculty of IITs and IIMs has suggested fat salary packages for them while the
recommendations are being processed by the government, the Rajya Sabha was told on Tuesday
The Economic Times
unable to get it anand
i think it is not for the aicte affiliated engg. colleges. because they have cleary mentioned IIT/IIM. again frustration
The post is a copy of todays news paper
see the link or todays economic times paper
got it. is it for aicte affiliated engg. college
Hi all
I spoke to Mrs. Pratima Dixit Madam of MHRD (director, Technical) regarding the pay revision report of Poly and Engg. college teachers, on 27/7/09. She said, now, it is the job of AICTE to notify the revised payscales as MHRD's approval is not mandatory for it. When I remainded about the satus of AICTE and Pay panel secretary, she asked us to wait for new incharge secreatry and also suggested us to pressurise AICTE chairman to notify!. It seems the report is already finalized, it our bad luck that Mr. Narayanarao caught at wrong time.
Friends, please call AICTE/MHRD officials persistently and presssurize them to notify the new pay scales of Polytechnics and Engg. colleges.
New delhi friends are requsted to approach AICTE/MHRD ministry/minister to look into this matter urgently.
http://164.100.47.4/rsquestion/ShowQn.aspx?qno=143
Just see what a joke is going on in indian parliament. These leaders think that people from abroad will come to join Central univ/IIT/IIM/NIT for peanuts? Are they Nuts?
prof.sooraj kapadia to sworn in as new memb secratary aicte.he will take charge on 7th august.
so how long it will take?
one month
Dear cpr, is it your information authentic? kindly inform us with your latest report.
IS THERE ANY REVISESD AICTE PAY SCALE WILL BE DECLARE FOR
POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS ? ANY NEWS?
Hi all
Another Good/Bad news!
AICTE Chairman R A Yadav has been suspended from the service due to corruption allegations.
Goo news: AICTE is getting free from the corruptive people.
Bad news: Notification of Pay scales will be delayed further.
We are very unlucky. It is better advise the young generation to persue Humanitie rather than professional education if interested in teaching.
Prof S S Mantha, Vice Chairman, AICTE has been handed over temporary charge as Chairman of the Council. Yadav was not available for comment.
Prof S S Mantha, Vice Chairman, AICTE has been handed over temporary charge as Chairman of the Council.see the link
Yesterday I called to Ms. Pratima dixit (Director, Tc, MHRD). She has informed that both the reports of Polytechnic and Degree Engg. College have been sent to finance for approval.
dear anjan biswas when we can expect the pay
Can anyone collect a copy of the recommendations for Polytechnic teachers? Please post.
Friends
Give any Authentic news about aicte pay scale for
Engg. and polytechnic Teachers .
Please keep on posting the updates on the developments at MHRD or AICTE for the revised pay scales.
Hai all,
I think, many of you are posting unwanted, unnecessary and misleading comments in this blog using very nasty language.
Still you are all teachers!! Thank god for that few exceptions.
What's the latest on AICTE pay scales?
Teacher ban gaya Phateacher
One can register his grievances to president of india at the following URL.
Why can't our associations put an RTI to know the reasons of this inordinate delay?
No updates !!! People who are able to contact the AICTE office (through their contacts) are requested to find out the latest developments. India is really unfortunate country, where lot of time, energy, efforts, and resources are wasted in taking a simple decision ! How to be proud of our nation's competence ?
Dear Technical Teachers,
Please convey our plight to all opposition M.Ps.
Dear All,
By recent incidents of corruption charges against top AICTE officials by CBI, it is evedent that AICTE is one of most corrupt organisation in the world. What we can expect from such an organisation? The AICTE officials are busy in making money and it seems that they don't have time to think about implementation of sixth pay revision to technical teachers of this great nation....
Please follow the following link that reports about the submission of the report. Any further updates?
The information which I could gather from other websites, is that the Reports for AICTE engineering colleges and polytecnic colleges have been sent to Finance department for final approval. Does it mean that the MHRD has already cleared and approved the reports ?
This information is also 5-6 days old. There must be development in last 4-5 days. HRD related issues are generally taken up by Government on Tuesdays. So today, let us hope there would be some progress made on this long pending issue. Please keep on posting updates...
Dear All,
All IIT/NIT faculties are planning to wear black badges from Aug. 6 to 14th, 2009 and give a press release(newspaper and TV). You all are requested to be a part of this by showing agitation in your institution. So wake-up dear friends and send a strong message to MHRD for no further delay in the implementation of 6th pay
its our bad luck for having the UPA in power for the second tme.Desperation prevails among many of the iit teachers for voting the congress.
Its horrible that none of us even knows what's happening. At least the MHRD must tell what's happening. What's their stand on Prof.Mehta's report. We are made unaware of all this by releasing mixed opinions about pay revision by the MHRD officials itself.
WHERE IS N.CHANDRA SEKHARA RAO?
Kaam kare ja, kaam kare ja, Pay scale ki ichcha mat kar
O nadaan! Mera MHRD mahaan, Mera MRD Mahaan!!
kya kamal saab sheroshayri bi ane lagi
The MLAs/MPs decide the enhancement in their compensation and perks, while sitting in one meeting of Assembly/Lok Sabha.
The Engineering Teachers who are the trainers and educators of future technical manpower have to wait, till the end of the pay revision cycle in INDIA, to get it.
It is the courtesy of politicians and bureaucrats that Technical Teachers have to literaly beg for revision.
The nation requires qualified, knowledgable, competent and pushing Technocrats. These will not be available under the present disgusting environments provide to to their role models, i.e., Teachers.
May God Help India!
The entire committee of people at AICTE responsible for finalising the 6th pay scales should be immediately SACKED and their pensions should be freezed. And if permissible Govt should go in for recovery of 2 years salary from them.
New lot of people assigned fixed time limit with NO extensions should be made to clear the entire mess.
THEY WILL NEVER GIVE YOU SIXTH PAY THIS FISCAL YEAR UNLESS HARD MEASURES BE TAKEN FROM YOUR SIDE
IRRITATE PRATIMA.CHAUHAN.THAKUR,SIBAL AND AICTE OFFICIALS BY CALLING FREQUENTLY FROM EVERY CORNER OF INDIA BY ALL OF YOU TO OFFICE AND HOME IS THE ONLY SOLUTION AT THIS JUNCTURE
IIT IIM Sixth pay report has been accepted by union cabinet today ( 6.8.2009).
Source: PIB
Dear all
MHRD Press Release...
Thursday, August 06, 2009
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Revision of pay scales of Faculty and Scientific/Design Staff and other academic staff of Centrally funded technical institutions following pay revision of the Central Government employees on the recommendation of the sixth Pay Commission.
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19:20 IST
The Union Cabinet today approved the revision of pay scales of Faculty, Design & Scientific Staff and other academic staff of the Centrally funded institutions. The Cabinet also approved giving financial assistance to States for implementing the above revised scales.
This will enable the Institutes to recruit and retain talented and well qualified faculty and to provide them an environment and working conditions that encourage them to enhance their performance and capacity.
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SH/SKS
Good News !!! Cabinet finally has taken a good decision...IITs and IIMs will benefit....and we can now expect the AICTE pay scales decision to follow very soon...
MHRD is now required another four months to approve AICTE pay scale and then AICTE will take another four months to release notification.
We have to initiate nation-wide agitation for implementation of Sixth Pay Scale as done by Bank Officials.
The IIT Faculty started their protest and immediately, they were given pay hike. We have to go on for a nation-wide strike
when will the faculties of pvt. degree level engg. college get the revised pay commission?
Govt approves sixth pay commission to IIT/IIM.
Check this link.
www.deccanheraldepaper.com page no 8
Dear Technical Teachers,
A token strike is most essential to show to the Government that we have not paid the Sixth Pay.
We have to plan a nation-wide strike
While government employees, panchayat employees, school
teachers, municipal corporation employees, and administrative employees of various universities and government colleges have got the benefit of Sixth pay, it is only the technical teachers under AICTE have been left out.
We have to protest against the government’s “discriminatory”
attitude regarding the implementation of recommendations in the Sixth Pay Commission despite several assurances.
Are we inferior to a government attender? He/She has got the pay hike. But, we are made to wait indefinitely. But, inflation goes on increasing. We have to go for a strike.
I feel, now it is the matter of a few days only for the announcement of Sixth pay for the AICTE institutes. But, still nothing can be said about AICTE's functioning !!!
Revision of pay scales of Faculty and Scientific/Design Staff as per 6th CPC. Please follow the link...
see the press release
tech education hierarchy
It is good see that the central government had implemented the sixth pay scale for IIT's and IIM's.
They should also implement the AICTE sixth pay as soon as possible. The delay already caused is enough and MHRD, Finance and the AICTE must take quick actions to implement the aicte sixth pay.
if aicte implements pay commission does it means all private colleges uner aicte are intitled to follow 6th pay scale.
who has to decide to implement 6th pay state or central government.
WE(AICTE) R THE ONLY GUYS LEFT OUT FROM THE 6TH PAY REVISION.
SEE THE UNITY OF BANK EMPLOYEES , THEY GOT THERE DEMANDS ONLY AFTER THEY DID THE STRIKE. SO ATLEAST NOW WE NEED TO TAKE INITIATIVE BY DOING STRIKE .
OTHERWISE WE WILL BE WATCHING THE OTHERS WHO R ENJOYING THE 6TH PAY CAKE.....?????????/
Please inform me about aicte pay scale for polytechnic college
Please inform me about aicte pay scale for polytechnic college
Where is N.ChandraShekar Rao(General secretary AIFTO)???? Previously he advised to be calm till July 31, but now what he is doing????
On 6th august the cabinet,govt of India has approved the pay scales for centrally funded technical Institutes including IIT, IIM, NIT as per the recomendation of AICTE. But there are few polytechnics in all over India, which are centrally funded too. can anybody convey about the pay structures approved by the central cabinet for centrally funded polytechinics ???
Please inform me about aicte Revised pay scale 2009-10 for polytechnic college
What happened to Mr.N.ChandraShekar Rao? How long will the technical teachers have to wait?Is it fair?I had committed a plunder by choosing this technical teaching profession. No unity among technical teachers. This delay in implementation of 6th Pay has clearly showed the importance of the technical teachers.A government sweeper with no educational qualification gets more than Rs.10000/- as monthly salary. We,the technical teachers after completing P.G and doctorate,are getting only 22000/-. Don't you all think this is ridiculous? Now,too, you keep on waiting without even planning for a nation-wide strike.
We want to listen Mr.N.ChandraShekar Rao on this matter. I don't know why he is not making any comment and giving any information now. We want to know that AIFPTO is still functioning????
If AIFPTO is not functioning, we should approach NFPT
Is there any website for NFPT?
What is NFPT?
National Federation of Polytechnic Teachers
In Pondicherry, We have formed a forum consisting of all colleges which have not been given 6th pay. This is a first step. Then, this forum will be merged with all India Colleges Teachers Association to fight for teachers welfare.
It is interesting to observe the divisive moves being played by Mehta Committee/ MHRD/ Finance Dept. These persons have ensured that a set of classes are created in technical teaching community.
The country is makeing all efforts to remove classes in society by providing perks, facilities and and other benifits.
We have class
1. Intitutes of National Importance
2. Centraly funded institutes
3. State Funded Institutes
4. State Aided Private Institutes
5. Private Un Aided institute.
With these many classes, there is always going to be one or other category which will be upset.
The ministers do not classify themselves in so many categories. They enjoy perks as per level ,ie, Min of State, Cabinet Minister and others.
Can technical teachers be classified as asst. prof., asso. prof. and prof. only. The salary be one whether he is working at a institute or b or c. The classes must go.
it will be waste of time if we start chatting like this.
its better that we should keep mum till they give the revised pay scale or take initiative to do strikes which will defenitely open the eyes of bloddy politicians who are enjoying every thing at the cost of aam admi.
if it is implement in all self finance engg college, all faculty will be happy.
I do agree with Prof.Guru. We have to get the 6th pay. We have to initiate strike. That is the only one option. A nation-wide strike only will have the best impact. So, we have to plan for a nation-wide strike. So, start merging your local unions with the state unions and become united.
I do agree with Prof.Guru. We have to get the 6th pay. We have to initiate strike. That is the only one option. A nation-wide strike only will have the best impact. So, we have to plan for a nation-wide strike. So, start merging your local unions with the state unions and become united.
I thing the self finacing institutions are pressuring the AICTE in this matter. If they announce the new pay scale then all the SF colleges should give the salary. So they are pressuring the AICTE to not to announce the new pay scale.
I thing the self finacing institutions are pressuring the AICTE in this matter. If they announce the new pay scale then all the SF colleges should give the salary. So they are pressuring the AICTE to not to announce the new pay scale.
WAIT FOR TWO MORE WEEKS SO THAT MEHTA COMMISSION CAN COMPLETE ONE YEAR SPELL.
I do agree with Kumar, AICTE is most corruptive central Govt organisation. By recent corruption charges by CBI against top cadre of AICTE officials, it is evident that, they will go to any extent to mint money. So I feel that, self financing institutes can easily influence the corruptive AICTE people to delay the announcement of sixth pay scales by AICTE.
Please follow the following link that reports about the pay commission report. Any further updates?
It is learnt that the final draft recommedations are under scrutiny by the financial wing of MHRD, for its approval. Once it is cleared by them, it would be back with AICTE for the final notification. The process is likely to be completed by August 31, 2009. Please visit the link mentioned in above comment
there is absolutely a limit for anything. they are just making fun of technical faculties , we have shown our patience till now. MHRD also know that ,we will not be doing anything against them,as we r all working in self financing colleges, which have already bribed the top officials who r not depending on the salary. its a shame for all of us, as the 62nd independence is approaching, we r still struggling to get our rights.
Dear Respected Professors,
I do agree with Prof.Gururaj. The Government (Politicians) are delaying the implementation of 6th Pay which is due to us. We have to fight for our right. For everything, there is a limit. We have waited enough. We have to immediately organise a nation-wide strike. There is no other alternative. IF you continue to wait, we have to lose all our savings to run a normal life since the prices of all essential commodities continue to rise. ( including the cost of a good self-financing engineering college admission seat )
Dear Respected Professors,
I do agree with Prof.Gururaj. The Government (Politicians) are delaying the implementation of 6th Pay which is due to us. We have to fight for our right. For everything, there is a limit. We have waited enough. We have to immediately organise a nation-wide strike. There is no other alternative. IF you continue to wait, we have to lose all our savings to run a normal life since the prices of all essential commodities continue to rise. ( including the cost of a good self-financing engineering college admission seat )
Dear Respected Professors,
I do agree with Prof.Gururaj. The Government (Politicians) are delaying the implementation of 6th Pay which is due to us. We have to fight for our right. For everything, there is a limit. We have waited enough. We have to immediately organise a nation-wide strike. There is no other alternative. IF you continue to wait, we have to lose all our savings to run a normal life since the prices of all essential commodities continue to rise. ( including the cost of a good self-financing engineering college admission seat )
Dear Honorable Technical Teachers,
How much money You are able to save every month-end after the implementation of Sixth Pay Implementation to all Govt. employees? I can nothing. These days, I do borrow money from my college non-teaching faculty at month-end, if there is an unusual expenditure like my children hospitalization. How long we are supposed to do this> Whose mistake is this? Whether we have to blame ourselves for choosing this useless job as our life-term career?
Hi all,
We have to blame ourselves for committing a blunder of choosing this technical teaching as our career. Then, we have to blame our fellow technical teachers who are used to indefinite wait for getting this pay hike
Due to Sixth Pay hike to all employees, except us, We face
the following problems:
1.Our children Tuition teachers ask more money.
2.Schools send out a revised fee structure.
3.Domestic staff demand a hike in salary and other perks.
4.Cinema tickets and dining out has shot up.
5.All basic food items will become expensive.
* The only thing that remains the same is your pay packet.
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
You forget the monetary loss that we incur due to
non-implementation of this 6th Pay. Our lady faculty
members can avail only 135 days of Maternity leave,
when compared to any other lady government staff
who will be granted 180 days of Maternity leave by
virtue of Sixth Pay.
This is the fate of technical teachers.
Only solution is to march all tech teacher on SANSAD to get the scale.Otherwise these bloody politician will not listen our voice.
We are posting lot of thing on this blog but doing nothing.
good paper work
Very True Babu...
I echo voice of Mr Rajesh....... First be civilised, then expect.
Government of India is useless
It seems that the pay scales would be finalised by August 31, 2009, But it has been a terrible experience of the Government Procedures. Its perhaps easy to solve a complicated technical problem, but its very difficult to understand such unreasonable delay by Government, in finalising the pay scales of the technical teachers. Administrative Pay scales in August-2008, UGC Pay scales in Decmber-2008, and ....technical teachers pay scales...still not decided..Shameful for the governmental functionaries...!!!! And this unpardonable delay is not going to result in any major benefit...Its kind of Punishment to all of us...
I feel...we should not forget last few months...and we must form a strong union even after getting the pay scales...
Dear Mr Rajesh and RPS
We should not object with any one's name. Why Mr. Fakaruddin(FUKER) shuld change his name????
Mr. Sanket
I am not very hopeful about completion of process by Aug 31. They will find another excuse for delay. Even if they announce it, our state government will take another year to implement it.
what MHRD is reviewing or mehta commitee reports?They have to make the fitment table as recommended by cpc.The delay shows only the mentality of our politician and of govt.official . until and unless we disturb the system, no one will listen the voice .
what MHRD is reviewing or mehta commitee reports?They have to make the fitment table as recommended by cpc.The delay shows only the mentality of our politician and of govt.official . until and unless we disturb the system, no one will listen the voice .
what MHRD is reviewing or mehta commitee reports?They have to make the fitment table as recommended by cpc.The delay shows only the mentality of our politician and of govt.official . until and unless we disturb the system, no one will listen the voice .
The sixth pay report for AICTE approved institutions will be available to all of you by tomorrow- an authentic person from ministry told.
The sixth pay report for AICTE approved institutions will be available to all of you by tomorrow- an authentic person from the ministry told this.
The sixth pay report for AICTE approved institutions will be available to all of you by tomorrow- an authentic person from the ministry told this.
Dear kkp
Is it the report for Engg & Polytechnic institutions???
Dear kkp
Is it the report for Engg & Polytechnic institutions???
Dear kkp
Is it the report for Engg & Polytechnic institutions???
Hi all,
The Government will not release the notification for us untill we initiate a strike. We have to organize a strike.
We have to show our unity and show our strength to the Government
Hi all,
The Government will not release the notification for us untill we initiate a strike. We have to organize a strike.
We have to show our unity and show our strength to the Government
Hi all,
The Government will not release the notification for us untill we initiate a strike. We have to organize a strike.
We have to show our unity and show our strength to the Government
WITH REFERENCE TO KKP'S COMMENT, I WANTED TO KNOW IF IT IS AN AUTHENTICATED NEWS OR CHUMMA HE WANTED TO MAKE A FUN OF TECHIES WHO ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE AICTE PAY SCALE
Also think of Arears of last pay commission 1996, who joined after 1996, specially Govt. Engg. Colleges in Punjab. Don't know who shall decide about it. All Departments and Decision Makers already have digest their old arrears and thinking about to get new ones.
KKP's comment is totally a nasty joke for all of us. Probably, He is getting fun out of it, because as far as we know, till today, the finance approval has not yet been received .... then how the notification will come on tomorrow? It's a top secret fact. Till it is notified and published officially, no source will be dare to give any information regarding this. This is the actual Fact. So, KKP, don'ttry to make us fool.
no body talking about revised aicte scales
all are silent why we are lossing our salaries
all of you come and take desicions about job and talk about revised scales
Sir / Madam,
Please organize a strike to show our protest. There is a limit to our patience. How long can we wait? Don't you think is there any justification for this delay?
I found no reason if kkp is lying. we should have faith in our friends
What is the latest position of aicte pay for Data Entery Operators (Daily wages staff)? Please inform us if you have any information regarding this
What is the latest position of aicte pay for Data Entery Operators (Daily wages staff)? Please inform us if you have any information regarding this
What is the latest position of aicte pay for Data Entery Operators (Daily wages for AICTE CL staff)? Please inform us if you have any information regarding this
whatever Technical staff pattern given in the AICTE booklet of Norms and standard for Enginieering 1990 is not strictly followed in the Engineering colleges. Pay scales are not proper. In the book Posts are given but pay scales of the technical cadre are not mentioned. And also from 1990 to date, AICTE circular or Notification is not released showing Technical Staff Posts with thier 4th or 5th pay scales. 6th pay scales are far away for these technical staff. If any body is having information regarding, please help me in this regard.
Today, MHRD notified the revision of pay of teaching and other Staff in Centrally Funded Technical Institutions (CFTIs) following the pay revision of the Central Government employees on the recommendation of 6thCentral Pay Commission.
For Notification follow the link
Today, MHRD notified the revision of pay of teaching and other Staff in Centrally Funded Technical Institutions (CFTIs) following the pay revision of the Central Government employees on the recommendation of 6thCentral Pay Commission. For Notification follow the link
I think kkp was talking about this notification
Technical Staff norms given in the booklet of "Norms and Standards for Engineering Colleges", published by AICTE in August 1990, is not followed by several Engineering colleges in the country.
Scrutiny of execution of the norms and standards of Technical Staff who teaches in Laboratory, Workshop, and Computer Centers is not done by AICTE/UGC through their inspection and verification reports like Compliance report and Mandatory disclosure etc.
AICTE “Norms and Standards for Engineering Colleges", published time to time reveals only Technical Posts without specifying their Scales of Pay. Till date, no Circular or Notification is released by AICTE, showing the 4th or 5th pay scales of Technical Staff Posts.
Will this time AICTE or Dr.mehata committee put out 6th pay scales of technical staff of the engineering college?
Please help me in this regard.
Delaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. I think this is the anthem for the present central government. Now I have lots and lots of regrets for voting for the Congress government. I liked to vote for BJP,but I thought that if congress wins the election the sixth pay will be implemented easily since they already know about all the details. But now I feel guilty that I voted for congress.
I think after puja vacation we should go all out strike against AICTE/MHRD.so all hub member plz suggest a date for STRIKE.
first of all, Engg. teachers must form a national union. Polytechnic teachers already have two i.e. nfpt & aifpto. then we should start coordinated efforts thru these
Dear all,
It was not a nasty joke. I belived that the sixth pay report for both the community (i.e IITs and others) will be notified by 19th Aug.
Dear all,
The sixth pay report for the NIT teachers is not at par with the UGC but worst than this. So you may think about AICTE affiliated colleges?
As per Supreme Court Judgment dated 20/04/2001 on Case No : Appeal (Civil) 2906-2907 of 2001]
Honble SC has ordered to treat the Graduate Laboratory staff as teaching staff as per the definition contained in different University Act and also to give them a scale of pay equivalent to that of Physical Instructors.
Will AICTE/UGC consider and execute the above SC judgment for deciding 6th pay scales of Graduate Laboratory staff ?
THIS DRAMA WILL AND SHOULD CONTINUE FOR 7 MORE MONTHS.NOTHING WILL COME OUT.NOW THE TECHY TEACHERS PAY ARE MADE AT PAR WITH SREEKRISHNA'S SCALES.SO THAT THEY WILL MAKE DEMONSTRATIONS.FOLLOWING PROTESTS THE GOVT WILL FORM ANOTHER COMMITTEE TO STUDY ANOMALIES IN SEPTEMBER.THE COMMITTEE WILL TAKE 2 OR 3 MONTHS TO STUDY.AFTER THAT THEY WILL SUBMIT THEIR REPORT IN DECEMBER.BY JANUARY LAST OF 2010 THE MHRD NOTIFIES AND WILL SENT IT TO AICTE ANOTHER 2 TO 3 MONTHS FOR AICTE AND FINALLY BY THE BEGINING OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR THE GOVT WILL DO IT FOR THE TECHIES.THIS IS THE GAME PLAN.
Any thing is possible in this country.
Why are we silent for all this irrational treatment? Even a worm will show its protest by moving differently if it is been tortured. Have we ever made an attempt to register our protest? What stops us from agitating? This is a democratic country. We are been ill-treated. We have to organize a strike.
Hi all
Let every engineering college faculty member put up an advertisement in all leading newspapers explaining the plight of themselves. This advertisement should run to a Full Page. Next step is to send individual fax to Dr.ManMohan Singh.
I welcome Mr.Prem and Mr.Mugesh. I do feel it is high time to end our patience. We have to swing to action. There is no other alternative. As the saying goies, Hardwork never fails , We have to show to them that we are important in this society.
try to understand the financial situation of the country .about 3000 crores is required if tech pay revision is implimented now and there is now allocation for the same in this financial year.so have patience and wait till march 2010
Dear all,
We have to go for a strike
There is a news that government will pay remaining 60% of 6th pay arrears in the month of Sep 09. I think government does not have any shortage of money.
With regard to Mr.JK's line of thought, Why the impact of the financial situation of the country is linked only with the tech pay revision and not on others including the attenders and sweepers of the Government? The sixth pay had been implemented to all other Government Servants in the last year itself. How long the Bureaucrats can drag the tech pay revision? Only for salary revision of the technical teachers, the Government has no funds? It is very ridiculous.
Dear Mr.Raju and Mr.JK,
Money is not the constraint for the Government.The Government spends lot of money for all other activities. The Government is giving many things free to some sections of the population who vote for them on a majority basis and also for those who protest against the Government. The Government feels that the technical teachers are only a fraction of the overall vote bank. These technical teachers will continue to work even if their pay is reduced and there is no reason to increase the technical teacher's salary because for the last one year, the technical teachers have been continuously working on the older scale of pay itself. There was no strike, no agitation and nothing. Why implement 6th pay to Technical teachers? For these highly obedient,passive, peace-loving and splineless technical teachers, the Government is thinking of introducing back the 4th pay scale to the Technical teachers.
AGOTE delegates met our Hon'ble Minister Mr. Kapil Sibbal on 20th Aug'2009. They had a long discussion regarding the pay revision of Degree and Diploma level Engg. colleges as well as the present status of technical education system in India with special emphasis on Delhi. That time, Mr. Sibbal had told that he would speed up the process of finance approval of pay revision and would try to do it as soon as possible. Although, he didn't give any specific time, still from the bureaucrats it has been informed that the entire process (Finance approval and AICTE notification) may be completed within first week of September. So Friends, hope for the best and let the worst come. Delhi State Govt. has already announced the interim pay scale for degree and diploma level engg. colleges in the last week itself. Why not for the other state Govts.?????? Particulary, in our state of West Bengal, we are demanding it for the long time, but no result till yet. One more request to all of you, instead of showing our frustration and giving scrap-wise suggestion, better to do something, at least call to Ms. Pratima Dixit (Director, TC, MHRD)in regular interval and show your eagerness to her and share the conversation in this blog.
Kindly refer to ROP for IIT, IIM etc. notification where it is mentioned that all other colleges would get pay as per UGC pay.
A reader seems to be right as per sr. no. 8(v) of the MHRD letter, which states as under.
"In respect of other categories of institutions, pay fixation will be made as per CCS (RP) Rules, 2008 and the Fitment table issued by MHRD for UGC funded institutions vide letter No.3-112009-U.1 dated 4th June, 2009, which is available on the web-site of MHRD."
can any one give the link where delhi govt has anniunced the interim pay scales
Dear All,
I agree with Mr.SBK. Money is not an issue for the Indian Government. Indian Politicians care about only vote bank. We have to initiate a strike. With Regard to AB's view of calling Ms.Prathima Dixit, She is not the decision making authority. If the file returns back to her office, she mentions about the status of the file. The Education Minister has to speed up the process. The best methodology is to seek the attention of the Press and other media and to inform them of our plight.
yeah its right according to readers and SKA1970 comments, i just went through that para as per sr. no. 8(v) of the MHRD letter,it seems that AICTE 6th pay scale will be same as that of ugc 6th pay scale. we have to get it clarified from the concerned authorities, otherwise we will be simply dreaming of 6th pay scale?
Dear Prof.Gururaj,
The notification pertains to ALL Centrally Funded Technical Institutions. In serial no: 8, Please refer sub-division (iv) wherein it has been the cases of IITs,IIMs, IISc, IISERs and NITIE and in sub-division (v), the notification refers to other categories of institutions - this will imply all other Categories of Centrally Funded Technical Institutions other than IITs,IIMs, IISc, IISERs and NITIE. So, if we were wait, we have to wait for the next 4th Pay commission to be implemented to us.
I think Franco is correct, that sr. no. 8(v) of the MHRD letter related to other CFTIs.
Engg. & polytechnic college teachers have to wait for another notification.
Rather then remaining in confusion, why should we not clarify that with MHRD or AICTE?
If you go through the news item in http://educator.rediffiland.com
it is clear that AICTE report for Engg. & polytechnic college teachers will be published after 31 Aug 09
Dear Dr.PPF,
I am not able to see any confirmation regarding AICTE report for Engg. & polytechnic college teachers will be published after 31 Aug 09. I feel that this is yet another reason to unnecessarily wait. As the saying goes, Today is the best day - I request all of our technical teachers to initiate the strike at the earliest. Strike is the only solution. Please plan a strike at the earliest.
Do any one can give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer ?
Do any one can give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer ?
Do any one can give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer ?
You are right Franco, we should plan the strike at earliest
i think ,5 sept will be a very good date for strike (or mass casual leave)by the faculty of all aicte affillated institute.
Dear Dr.Franco,Dr.Gurjar and Dr.PPF,
5th September is a very good day to go for a strike. Cattle will be given due respect yearly once on Pattu Pongal, a day after Pongal festival in South India. After that, Cattle will be given the usual treatment. Like that, we, technical teachers, will be honored only on 5th September. If and only if, we go for a strike on 5th September, the Government will understand our plight.
Dear Dr.P.RAm,
No one can able to give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer- because as Dr. SBK pointed out only if we go for a strike, then only the Government will AICTE release the recommendation for 6th Pay.
September 5th is the best day. We have to swing into action.
We will adopt the IIT Faculty slogan itself - "Our Dignity is at stake". This denotes our status too.
The IIT professors are going for a hunger strike on sept 5th, if the HRD does not respond to their demands. it is sure that the HRD will go according to IIT prof wish list. only the AICTE FACULTY will be left out. atleast now we should take initiative to go for hunger strike on August 31st and give the deadline for HRD , otherwise kapil saab will not look into our side. there is a saying in our place that " devaru saha vara keladidre, sumne vara kodalla" means God also does not give anything unless it was asked by a devotee. it is better we unite together and ask for the pay revision.
Dear Prof. Gururaj,
Bekkige Gante kattuvaru yaru? Hangagige namma prasthithi. (Means: Who will bell the cat? This is our pathetic state).
Although,most of the teachers are in favour of strike or.., there is nobody/organization to intiate/lead us. This weakness of ours is being exploited by MHRD/AICTE.
yeah its true, no one is there to lead the team.
today pranab mukerjee announced the 6th pay's remaining 60% arrears to the central govt employees & pensioners. though we r all sincerely working and creating lakhs of engineers who r the graduating as global product.
so it is the high time that we can forcefully demand these politicians to take immediate actions against the concerned authorities who have been bribed by our own managements who r doing business in the education field.
Dear Prof.Gururaj and Dr.Prasad,
It is in fact true that no one is there to lead the team. But, we are also directly affected by this indifferent politicians. We have to explore all options to initiate the process of uniting all the technical teachers. Why we have to be left alone under the banner of 'Technical Teachers'? We will merge will the existing UGC faculty union. We have not got any benefit by just waiting for a separate pay slab exclusively for 'Technical Teachers'. The fact is we may even get less than the UGC scale of pay, even without taking into account the interest lost for our due salary for this one year.
First let all engineering colleges in a state form a single union. Then all these unions can form a consortium of sort and unite under a single banner. There is no public awareness of our plight. Only we are discussing this issue.We should make others also discuss this issue. So lets use the media . As far as the Manmohan Singh government is concerned 6 pay commission has been implemented. Thats it. Others have been getting this increased pay for 12 months already. Lets get into action .
Defnitely we will get 6th pay before 31st March-2010
One thing we can start right now, All of us should write to PM of India. He should receive at least thousand mail about our problems. The link is
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
I already posted one.
You Idiot SBK,
you don't talk about some sections of the population who vote for them. you just focus on our salaries don't rubbish.
this is the worning to everyone who is speaking about backword caste guys.
I strongly oppose the comment made by MNN. The comment made by SBK is very general and does not indicate to any caste. MNN should not interpret it as a comment against any specific class.
Such abusive word should not be tolrated at this hub. Every one has to oppose.
This is requested to delete MNN comment from this hub.
What kind of situation is this ? The employees of Govt and others will receive the remaining 60 % of arrears and on the other side...we are yet receive the announcement..Its indeed shameful !!!
Dear Dr.MNN,
My comment pertains to general population who take pain to go the Polling Booths and vote in a majority. I have no reference to any caste. I do focus on only technical teachers not getting their 6th Pay for the past one year. I do request you too to focus only on our technical teachers plight.
Dear All,
I do welcome Dr.PPF. Let us write to the PM. I have also posted one letter now to the PM using this link :
Respected Technical teachers,
The move initiated by PPF is great. Instead of blaming the system, he has started a new move. I too posted my request to the PM now. I request you all to post your messages to the PM using this link :
It is a nice idea. I too have posted the message regarding technical teachers plight in that link:
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
Please all of us post your message. Please do not argue that this will have some effect or not. This is the simplest thing we can do as a mass. Let us all do it.
Dear All,
A good idea has been given by AG. We all will write letters to the Editorial Column - 'Letters to the Editor' highlighting our plight. But, as a mass, we also will send letters to the honorable Prime Minister of India using this link -
Dear Kumar and friends,
Your idea is good. We can think one step ahead. That is,I feel, we all (UGC+AICTE) teachers can demand to include us in central paycommission itself so that at least we get our scales revised in time. As some of our friend have suggested, we can write to the PM in this regard.
dont blame polititians for everything.it is the babus of mhrd and aicte ,responsible for threefourth of our problems.lack of union contributes the rest
The revised pay scales on par with that of IIT/IISc/6th CPC being demanded is only for the faculty of Government Colleges or for the faculty of private engineering colleges also. Please clarify.
The revised pay scales on par with that of IIT/IISc/6th CPC being demanded is only for the faculty of Government Colleges or for the faculty of private engineering colleges also. Please clarify.
Dr. PPF have initiated great idea. Let all of us post a letter in to honorable PM as Grievances. No matter if it is giving some effect or not. This is the simplest thing we can do at this moment. I too have posted a grievance to PM using the link
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
All of us must do it at earliest
Hi friends I had also posted my grievance to PM using the below link.
Hi All,
The idea initiated by Dr.PPF is great. Let us all state our grievances to the honorable Prime Minister through this link.
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm. I have just posted my message.
I request all of our friends to post the request to the PM. Please do inform all our technical teachers. Simple blaming is useless. This is the best thing , we can do at this juncture.
Dear All
Apart from writing to PM, try to call
Pratima dixit (Phone:011 23382698),
Director,
Tecnical Education, MHRD,
persistently. And ask her why the notification for Engg. colleges and polytechnics is delayed, instead of asking when. She is the authority in issuing the notifiaction. When I asked so, she gave very evading answer and she is not consistent in informing date of notification as well (sometimes befor aug, some other times one more month, etc..).
Friends, this could accelerate the speed of their work (really, they do not have any work regarding notification. It is going to be one line notification; AICTE is as per UGC. For this they are delaying so much. Ofcourse many doubts arise. One strong doubt is that Prof. Narayanarao is not there to help privitae managements.Therfore,.....).
Important:
Also, remind her that they (6th CPC) have got revised scales exactly one year back and full arrears, and why we are deprived of this.
I hope friends visiting this hub do it today.
We will both make phone calls to Ms.Prathima Dixist and also post our grievences through email to our PM
I have already call -->
Pratima dixit, in this no.
Phone:011 23382698
But they give me another no. 01123386561
Please any body tell me about any conversation with mrs Dixit.
Dear all,
I have given MHRD secretary phone number in my previous posting(asking yoy to call Pratima dixit). Kindly note down 011 23386561 is Pratima Dixit's actual number. However,most of the time this number will be connected to Fax). Therefore I had given 011 23382698. Any way try to contact both numbers(Let MHRD secretary also know our plight).
The idea ia good
Let us all state our grievances to the honorable Prime Minister through this link.
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm.
I have just posted my message.
Dear All,
I have also posted the non-implementation of 6th PAY to the technical teachers. Something is better than nothing
Is it true that all other engg colleges pay scales would be at par with UGC scales ? Is there any such mention in the CFI's pay scales notification ? Kindly update on the status.
Dear Dr. Sanket,
Yes, the fact is true. We, the technical teachers , have been made to wait for more than one year to get less pay or equal pay as compared to UGC scale of pay.
Please do post your grievance to the PM
This is really rediculous if it is true !! Unbelievable !!!Perhaps government is downgrading the technical education in the country, by misbehaving this way !!! We really feel , cheated after waiting for than one year.
I have also posted my grievances for delay in notification of revised AICTE pay scale for Polytechnic and Engineering college teachers to the honorable Prime Minister.
Mr. sibal is notjing but one another arjun singh is in making. in 100 days he wish es to pass the bill so that he can get popularity for right to education. but he does not care who are giving education. he knows that AIcte is corrupt body then why he himself after knowing that tech. teachers are not getting their due ,do something.
B'coz it will not give him publicity.
Better do some thing, wait is now more than 1 year. No harm in posting a letter to Honorable PM.
I have posted my grievances to Honorabale PM using the link
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm.
Dear Friends
Do you think priminister/PMO will go through all our griviences regarding pay revision and initiate action? I donot think that happens in this country. Try to call Pratima Dixit (Phone nos. given in my previous posing on this hub) who is the concerned authority to notify the revsion. At least presssure from the teachers woul have some impact on speed of her work. Try to call her first. Then to PMO.
I do agree with Rajesh. But sending a letter to PM is the little we can do without making much effort. there should be 1000 mails to PMO and look what happened.
We should also call Ms Dixit as suggested by Rajesh.
By 10th of september, AICTE will declare report. All work is going on at very fast rate.
By 25th of september,final notification comes.All work is going on at very slow rate
I too posted a mail to PM using
Dear All,
We have waited enough. No matter it is 10th September or 25th September, I am sure the final notification will not be released from AICTE. We have to do something. Posting a mail to PM office is a good idea. Let us all do it. I have posted the message to the honourable PM.
I have posted the message to honorable PM, Unity of engineering faculty is required to represent the issues on 6th pay commission.
This problem of delay in announcing the AICTE pay scales officially for the implementation by all colleges, can only be solved , if the MPs of the respective areas raise the issues in the Parliament. It can be initiated by a few technical teachers who have good contacts/relations with such MP. I have my doubts on our ability to form an association at national level. (Otherwise, it would have materialised by now). Everyone, including myself, keeps on writing on this blog, and waits for others to take the initiative. Our patience has been tested beyond limits, but then also, we are unable to put up any significant pressure on the government. We have been treated so badly, insulted badly by such ignorance, avoidance,as if our salary is not so important, and we are also proving that our tolerance is great. I would request those faculty members who have connections with some political people, to use that connection to find the solution of this delayed announcement. We now know that we are not going to get anything extra, more than UGC. Our salaries would be down-graded, but government has been successful in making us so tolerant, that we will now accept whatever that is offered (after one year)...And what a misfortune...we are not able to even raise a question...that why is this delay ????
This problem of delay in announcing the AICTE pay scales officially for the implementation by all colleges, can only be solved , if the MPs of the respective areas raise the issues in the Parliament. It can be initiated by a few technical teachers who have good contacts/relations with such MP. I have my doubts on our ability to form an association at national level. (Otherwise, it would have materialised by now). Everyone, including myself, keeps on writing on this blog, and waits for others to take the initiative. Our patience has been tested beyond limits, but then also, we are unable to put up any significant pressure on the government. We have been treated so badly, insulted badly by such ignorance, avoidance,as if our salary is not so important, and we are also proving that our tolerance is great. I would request those faculty members who have connections with some political people, to use that connection to find the solution of this delayed announcement. We now know that we are not going to get anything extra, more than UGC. Our salaries would be down-graded, but government has been successful in making us so tolerant, that we will now accept whatever that is offered (after one year)...And what a misfortune...we are not able to even raise a question...that why is this delay ????
This problem of delay in announcing the AICTE pay scales officially for the implementation by all colleges, can only be solved , if the MPs of the respective areas raise the issues in the Parliament. It can be initiated by a few technical teachers who have good contacts/relations with such MP. I have my doubts on our ability to form an association at national level. (Otherwise, it would have materialised by now). Everyone, including myself, keeps on writing on this blog, and waits for others to take the initiative. Our patience has been tested beyond limits, but then also, we are unable to put up any significant pressure on the government. We have been treated so badly, insulted badly by such ignorance, avoidance,as if our salary is not so important, and we are also proving that our tolerance is great. I would request those faculty members who have connections with some political people, to use that connection to find the solution of this delayed announcement. We now know that we are not going to get anything extra, more than UGC. Our salaries would be down-graded, but government has been successful in making us so tolerant, that we will now accept whatever that is offered (after one year)...And what a misfortune...we are not able to even raise a question...that why is this delay ????
I would also like to request Prof.N. Chandra Shekhar,of AIFPTO, and all others who are holding such positions to kindly take the initiatives to solve this issue, to bring respect to our teaching profession. I find it quite frustrating and demoralising, while facing such a treatment by the government.
Engg Teachers should form a UNION now
ENGG TEACHERS AND POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS SHOULD JOINTY REPRESENT THIS MATTER TO HIGHER AUTHORITY FOR REVISED AICTE PAY SCALE AS EARLY AS POSIBLE.
No one is giving us any authentic information regarding the pay revision of technical teachers.Previously it was 31st August to notify the Aicte Pay but now I find that somesays it is 10th and another says it is 25th September to notify it ie both are contradictory.Actually no one is really bother regarding our plights whether it is MP or Minister or any portfollio holder our organisations.Only we have to wait...wait...wait.. without doing any protests because we are so spineless and after waiting like this one day we will see that it is already one or two years over.Politicians who are responsible for this delay are misguiding and depriving all of us.
PROF.MALKHANY TO SUBMIT AICTE PAY REVISION REPORT BY OCTOBER 4.EARLIER PROF.MEHTA SUBMITTED IIT/IIM PY REVISION REPORT.THE PROCESSING OF MALKHANI REPORT TAKES 2 WEEKS.THE FINAL NOTIFICATION FROM AICTE AFTER MHRD SANCTION WILL BE BY THE END OF NOVEMBER
Prof. Varghese
It was not confirmed regarding constitution of such committee. Kindly inform us the source of your information.
Dear All,
Waiting any further for new committees to be formed for technical teacher's implementation of Sixth Pay can not be tolerated. If we are to get the same salary or less than that of UGC, What is the purpose of this delay? One thing is very clear. We do not have any unity or no association. Please write letters to the Editors of all leading national or local newspapers highlighting our plight. Do encourage all your colleagues to send mail to the PM
Dear Friends,
Please write our grievances to the letters to the Editor of all national newspapers.
Dear Prof. Vargheese
Donot sread rumors. Such informationn hurts us. I have personally spoke to Pratima Dixit (director, technical, MHRD) regarding the formation of Malkhani committee. She outrightly denied about it. She is the authority of signing the Pay revision notification. If you want call her and get it confirmed.
By the way, if at all you are true, what is the source of your information on formation of Malkhani committee?
GOVT IS GOING TO DISSOLVE UGC,AICTE AND DEC BY OCTOBER END.NOTIFICATION REGARDING PAY SCALES OF UGC AND AICTE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE NEW BODY.
LAST EVENING I CALLED PROF MEHTA AT HIS RESIDENCE IN BANGLORE AND ENQUIRED ABOUT ANY NEW COMMITTE FOR AICTE PAY REVISION.HE TOLD ME A NEW COMMITTEE UNDER PROF.SACHDEV MALKHANI TO REVIEW WHAT PROF MEHTA RECOMENDED WAS CONSTITUTED IN JUNE AFTER THE INTERMINISTERIAL COMMITTEE FAILED TO DO THE SAME.PROF.VARGHESE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THE OFFICIALS OF AICTE AND MHRD ARE TELLING LIES.THEY KNOW THEIR BODIES ARE GOING TO DISSOLVE SOON.SO THEY WANT TO STICK ON FOR SOME MORE TIME
election code of conduct came in to force.two month delay expected
MHRD has accepted the pay scales for Polytechnic and Engineering college teachers and has recommended to AICTE
SABOOTH?
This is to request all contributors to kindly provide authentic information about the latest developments/the status. Atleast, we should pay respect to each other, when we are not getting the same from government.
Dear RK
Are you sure? If so, kindly let us know the source fo information and notification details.
Dear RK
Please give authentic information because you know how stressed we are due to the delay.
Dear RK
Kindly tell us source of your information
I called pratimaji yesterday.She told me so.
Thanx RK
Now we should wait for notification
Dear Rk
If it's true then i must really thank you for informing this
highly expected news.
if RK is right, then we will be delighted by his information.
but one thing is, we have seen enough of these kind of informations which were running through out this year.
Any way let us hope for the best to happen for all the AICTE faculties.
JAI HO AICTE......?
dear friends,you are hearing so many news.But we are continously visiting MHRD. Now latest information is that for degree level file has been signed and for diploma level file will be signed by this friday (4-09-2009). Then both the files will be sent to AICTE on monday or tuesday (7 or 8th september) for final notification.It is expected that by 10th or at the most by 15th of september notification will be at yor table. This is 100% authentic information. And as soon as these files are sent to AICTE I shell inform you immediately. Best of luck.
dear friends,you are hearing so many news.But we are continously visiting MHRD. Now latest information is that for degree level file has been signed and for diploma level file will be signed by this friday (4-09-2009). Then both the files will be sent to AICTE on monday or tuesday (7 or 8th september) for final notification.It is expected that by 10th or at the most by 15th of september notification will be at yor table. This is 100% authentic information. And as soon as these files are sent to AICTE I shell inform you immediately. Best of luck.
Dear Prof. Gururaj,
It is difficult to say "Jai Ho AICTE". You have rightly put a "?" at the end. This organisation has never worked in favour of technical teachers. It has not helped the growth of technical education in India. It would be the right step by government if this useless body is scrapped at the earliest.
Notification will be issued next week by AICTE
Dear All,
No authorized news has been released to Press and Media regarding AICTE Notification Issue date.
What prevents us from writing letters to the Editors of various newspapers requesting them to publish a article regarding the fate of Technical Lecturers - What sort of difficulty we go through in getting selected as a teaching faculty in a well-recognized colleges and end of the day, we are the last category of employees to receive the pay hike. At least, this will prevent new job seekers to avoid this pitiable career of teaching technical education.
Dear Dr RK,
Thank you that you are sharing information which is, at present, vital for all of us. Will you please give us the source of information ?
Dear all,
1.It is very good to see that many colleagues are making several efforts to extract some information on the latest status of new AICTE pay scales. But it is my sincere request to all that we should post only authentic information on the web to avoid confusion amongst ourselves.
2.It is nothing less than criminal on the part of the MHRD/AICTE to delay the notification of pay revision for Engineering Colleges. I think we should press upon the HRD Minister Mr. Sibbal and the Acting Chairman of AICTE Prof. Mantha to take personal interest in this matter to resolve the deadlock.
3.As the NCHER is going to be formed very soon, and AICTE is going to be scrapped in the process, therefore Prof. Mantha is requested to kindly not to miss this great opportunity of having the best wishes and gratitude of all the technical teachers fraternity.
4.The faculty associations of all Engineering Colleges should write through (Letters/FAX/Email) to these functionaries repeatedly to address to our genuine demand at the earliest.
5.Our non-teaching colleagues have already started to enjoy the benefits of revised pay. But with each passing day, our teaching community is becoming more and more anxious about new pay scales and therefore not able to concentrate fully on the teaching.
6.Even if the AICTE is going to announce it soon, the respective State Govts. will still take several more months to get the same implemented as it has happened in the past. Therefore, our struggle is not going to end here.
But any how, we must not loose heart. Let us hope for the best and wish to get some good news on the Teacher's Day.
Dear teachers,yesterday evening i met one seniormost official of aicte.He told me that national council for higher education and research is going to be constituted on oct 2,birthday of mahatmaji.All the bodies of higher education including ugc.aicte,ncert,dec etc are going to be dissolved at the earliest.There is strict order from the ministry to complete ALL the pending works in a speedy manner so that NCHER can have smooth initial functioning.Except iit/iim/iisc pay revision,everything regarding remaining technical teachers will be considered by NCHER after its formation in a warline manner.so i request everyone be calm and patient till the end of october
what the bloody hell is going on?
What a bad news from NCS. We should keep on sending grievences to PMO using link
let us wait up to october 31 as NCS says
NCS IS BETRAYING US.HE MIGHT BE THE SPOKESMAN OF PRIVATE LOBBY
what a tragedy for all the aicte faculties?
all the faculties of iit/iim/nit/ugc have all got their 6th pay demands before 5th sept ( teachers day).
still these bloddy govt wants to constitute a commitee for doing the pending works of aicte.
forget about the 6 th pay revision, the bloddy officials of aicte are boneless who could have pressurised the MHRD.
We r definitely hurt by these kind of non uniformity which the central govt is doing.
majority of the indian engg gradutes are coming out of enng colleges/polytechniques which are under aicte , these bloddy politicians also know htis fact and simply they are all making fun of us.
literally we should not tolerate these bloddy higher authorities who are following different strategy among the facuties of different organisation ( l;ike ugc,iit;/iim/nit/ aicte).
atleast we shoul now be active by giving a deadline for these bloddy peoples.
we should wait till sept 5th ( teachers day).
if they dont release the aicte notifiction , we will boycot the classes as did by the iit/iim prof.from 7th sept 2009. ( as 6thb sept is on sunday)
we also have self esteem and caliber which is as equal as the faculties of ugc/iit/iim/ etc....
this is really unjustice which we r all facing.
let us take a firm decision to boycott the B.E/M.E/MCA/MBA. classes which we r handling.
all should wear blackbands tomorrow
you shoud never measure all polititians with same scale.you must know our late YSR.He was a man of vision.a vigilant,vibrant and responsible polititian.kapil should learn a lot from him.the teachers of Andhra lost their guardian through his sad demise.Andhra pradesh is the first state to impliment sixth ugc pay for university teachersKAPIL IS THE WORST HRD MINISTER AFTER INDIAN INDEPENDANCE.THERE IS A LOT OF TIME FOR HIM TO MAKE NEW AND NEW POLICIES.DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY HE LAUNCHED A NEW SCHEME OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THROUGH POLYTECHNICS.BUT HAS NO TIME TO LOOK IN TO OUR MATTER.WE ARE HIGHLY UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM AS OUR MINISTER
Thanks to CPR for your comments. I think you are right. I request all of you to think his comments. I also see that MHRD department is depriving us in the pretext of constituting the NCHER because others ie iit/nit/iim/ugc are getting the 6th pay commission's scale but we are not getting that.If MHRD is really willing to pay 6th Pay scale then they can do that before forming NCHER as they did for iit/iim/nit/ugc.I therefore request all of you to think of their tricks of cheating and lingering the matter.So we should take immediate actions to prevent any further delay.
Dear Mr. aaa,
What are your comments on news from NCS. It is quite different from what you had indicated two days ago. Has the situation changed today? Do you concur with this information per your souce of information. Please advise.
2. Dear all,
Who is our reprentative association of technical teachers? For the last more than a year, they have just spoken to Ms. Pratima Dixsit only at various times. Now they are totally silent. I suggest instead of burning within for rightful due, they should speak to some local Delhi teachers and take a delegation to Mr. Sibal and know from horse's mouth where the matter stands? I think every one feels strong need to form statewise associations of tech teachers and federation of associations to take up the teachers' issues like UGC teachers have done. Otherwise, let us leave to fate.
Dear Mr. aaa,
What are your comments on news from NCS. It is quite different from what you had indicated two days ago. Has the situation changed today? Do you concur with this information per your souce of information. Please advise.
2. Dear all,
Who is our reprentative association of technical teachers? For the last more than a year, they have just spoken to Ms. Pratima Dixsit only at various times. Now they are totally silent. I suggest instead of burning within for rightful due, they should speak to some local Delhi teachers and take a delegation to Mr. Sibal and know from horse's mouth where the matter stands? I think every one feels strong need to form statewise associations of tech teachers and federation of associations to take up the teachers' issues like UGC teachers have done. Otherwise, let us leave to fate.
somebody is making fool of you in this hub.Both mhrd and finance sanctioned and passed the file to aicte for notification.As you know, in previous notification there were 43 pages.similarly this time too there is lot of work to be done from the part of aicte.aicte has to notify it for several sections separately.it takes 2 weeks minimum.so at this point we have to pressurize aicte office for early release of the report.yesterday i called to the numbers of acting chairman,sdo,bharatram,new member secratary paliwal and several other officials.nobody were in their seats.it indicates the condition and atmosphere of the office.NOW WE ARE IN THE LAST LAP.SO EVERY BODY SHOUL CONTACT AICTE OFFICE BY GOING IN TO THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITE .CALL MANTHA BHARATRAM AND PALIWAL FREQUENTLY AND PRESSURIZE THEM FOR EARLY RELEASE OF OUR REPORT.THE BALL IS NOW IN AICTE'S COURT
Happy Teacher's Day to all fellow teachers.
HAPPY TEACHERS' DAY
HAPPY TEACHERS' DAY
I enquired about the information posted by NCS ( regarding merging of AICTE, UGC....) with pratima dixit. The information provided by NCS is absolutely wrong. She said,internal finance of MHRD has sought certain clarifications. After that they are going to direct the AICTE to notify. This is what is being happening. It is better some one in Delhi meet Pratima DIxit and persue the matter for speedy disposal. I think NCS might be misleading. What is the necessicity of he asking us to be calm?
Dear friends,by next week files will be sent to AICTE for final notification.Mr. NCS IS sitting far away from delhi.And we go to MHRD allmost daily.What informations we share with you are 100% latest.As soon as, file goes to AICTE, I shell inform you immediately.
Yes, it seems that the procedure is in the last stage. Atleast AICTE should now make the notification...of course now we all know..that it is not going to give us anything extra...Hope it will not have more shocks...
Why is NCS misleading teacher community? He should tell the source of his information which is often distressing or annoying to most of the teachers. Is he representing the Pvt college management? Plz clarify NCS!
AICTE pay revision for techies leaked.suggests revision with effect from 2007 january 1.increment 3 percentage.arrears after march 31/2010 in one time settlement.scales as suggested by chaddha for ugc.pb3 to pb4 after 5 years.new scales from october month salary to be paid in november first.40 percent of arrears to be put in provident fund which will be released only after march 2013.
MR. SK whatever you are saying all are nonsense. Please donot misguide the friends by these informations. We know what is inside.
Hi
Today, evening all of you is going to get Sixth Pay.
Proposed national education body gets PM's support on
6 Sep, 2009
NEW DELHI: The HRD Ministry's plan for setting up a commission that will replace existing regulatory bodies like UGC and AICTE is understood to have got support from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
The Ministry made a presentation before the Prime Minister on August 28 with regard to the proposal for starting National Commission for Higher Education and Research (NCHER).
The presentation was made by Higher Education Secretary R P Agrawal in the presence of HRD Minister Kapil Sibal.
Officials said the Prime Minister was inclined to the proposal and even suggested setting up of a task force to see how to go about it. The task force will also coordinate between states and other wings of the government on the issue.
As per the proposal, the NCHER will subsume the existing regulatory bodies like University Grants Commission (UGC), All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE), Distance Education Council (DEC) and National Council for Teachers' Education (NCTE).
The concept of NCHER was recommended by the government-appointed committee on 'Renovation and Rejuvenation of Higher Education', headed by Prof Yashpal.
As per the proposal, the NCHER will act as the apex regulatory body in the field of higher education in India and create enabling environment for universities to become self-regulatory bodies.
It will be the premier advisory body to the Central and state governments on policy issues on higher education. The proposed body will prepare and present a report on the state of higher education in India every year to Parliament.
Yashpal committee has suggested that the proposed body will serve as a think tank on higher education policy in the country and provide a vision on higher education to be reflected in the curriculum framework, set benchmarks for universities and compare institutions globally.
The proposed commission would create norms, processes and structures for ensuring quality and accreditation of universities. It will establish transparent norms for entry and exit of of institutions.
The proposed NCHER will develop mechanism for funding for universities and other institutions. It will provide the mechanism for national database on higher education.
Besides, the commission will create an environment in academic institutions that will encourage young people to take up academia as a career.
The Central Advisory Board of Education, the apex advisory body on education in the country, has already approved the proposal for setting up of the NCHER. The HRD Ministry has prepared a draft bill on it.
So yet another long wait for all of us?
It will not be a long wait now, let us hope so. The MHRD clearance when conveyed to AICTE, they will issue the notification. Teachers have to follow up there. The NCHER bill will go to parliament in winter session. In all likleyhood, the new body will function from April 2010 as per highly places sources.
Who told you dear technic. Dont spread rumors. No one knows whether AICTE exists or not. Most useless body with full of corrupt officials.
Who told you dear technic. Dont spread rumors. No one knows whether AICTE exists or not. Most useless body with full of corrupt officials.
Who told you dear technic. Dont spread rumors. No one knows whether AICTE exists or not. Most useless body with full of corrupt officials.
Dear Technic
Are you kidding? Kindly disclose source of your information.
Dear All,
Only by these rumors, we have to enjoy the happiness of sixth pay. I am sure that we will not Sixth Pay in the near future.
Dear Technic
All of us are under immense pressure. Plz be serious while posting any informatiion. Thanks any way for clarification.
Please dont waste ur time,all will happen at that time,the end of the world
SACHDEV MALKHANI's FINAL ROUND OF TALKS WITH PHARMACY AND DENTAL ORGANISATIONS TO BE HELD ON 16TH SEPTEMBER.
Dear Prof.JP,
Who is Sachdev Malkani? What is his role in 6th Pay implementation to technical teachers?
I will not suggest this worst technical teaching career even to my enemy. I will let my son to rear pigs rather than do this technical teaching in INDIA. Had I been young, I would have switched over to some other career.
Dear RRK,
You have very correctly said, Sir. It is in fact true. Can any one else tell me whether any other category of Government Employees has not been given Sixth Pay still today?
dear j.p sir ,will you please inform us whether Malkhani has completed talks with engineering wing
dear j.p sir ,will you please inform us whether Malkhani has completed talks with engineering wing
Today at 3.30 pm i called mr.paliwal,the new member secratary regarding the aicte pay revision.He told me that prof.mehta's report has been given to a four member committee headed by prof S.Malkhani retd u.p.s.c chairman and former planning commission member.They have been holding talks with various organistions since april and they are now in the winding stage.with in two weeks they are going to submit the final report after processing to hrd minister.
Dear Mr. aaa
Pls clarify if you have the information as to what is the exact role of Malakhani committe in pay revision of technical degree colleges / engineering colleges and Management institutes regulated by AICTE. Mrs Pratrima Dixit had been denying too about any such committee.
TODAY WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TECH TEACHING COMMUNITY.THE LAST AICTE NOTIFICATION ON TECH PAY REVISION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AFTERNOON.
There is no Malakhani committe. Do not believe such things.
I very firmly believe in the law of KARMA as applied to humans.I have experienced certain happenings and incidents in life which proove beyond any doubt the veracity of the law. I can only request my fellow colleagues to kindly understand that your KARMAS of this instant shall decide/affect your next or subsequent instants.
I humbly request all the visitors of this hub to kindly post only authentic or genuine comments. It would be good if the source of any info is mentioned so that a reader can judge for him/herself as to how much he /she could rely on the info.
Excuse me for projecting a saintly image about myself but I have merely reproduced my experiences with the law of KARMA.
Regards to all.
GET LOST DR ALLAH
I fully support Dr. Allah.Please try to realise and understand the advise given by Dr. Allah.Lets all heed his advise.
Dear All,
I don't think there is any other Government Employee has not got the Sixth Pay other than the technical teachers. It is a shame.
I request any bold technical teacher to file the application under RTI to know the status of the sixth pay to the technical teachers
Dear Dr.Asutosh,
"TODAY WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TECH TEACHING COMMUNITY.THE LAST AICTE NOTIFICATION ON TECH PAY REVISION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AFTERNOON". What is the source of this information?
It is a great idea to file RTI application and to know the status of the pay revision. This will answer whether the Malkani committe is there or not
Dear Dr Ashutosh,
Please indicate the source of your statement"TODAY WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TECH TEACHING COMMUNITY.THE LAST AICTE NOTIFICATION ON TECH PAY REVISION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AFTERNOON."
The people on this hubpage are requesting everyone to write sensibly and responsibly. Please do not make fun of the worries and concern of your fellow colleagues. So if your information is correct, please give the source.
Very true, Sanket
MANTHA AND PALIWAL ON FORIEGN TOUR.WILL RETURN ONLY AFTER SEPTEMBER TWENTY SECOND.POSSIBLE DELAY OCCUR BY 3 WEEKS.
AICTE NOTIFICATION OUT.
AICTE NOTIFICATION OUT.
AICTE NOTIFICATION OUT.
who read it?
Mr. Balbeer, is your msg authenticated? If so, please reveal the source.
aicte notification out.the news is true.it will be published soon in aicte web site.
Mr. JP, What is the content? Can you post excerpts of the notification here?
The file is still in the MHRD. It ,to the best of my knowledge not reached the AICTE. Please do not try to spead rumours and create further confusion.
Thaks
The file is still in the MHRD. It ,to the best of my knowledge not reached the AICTE. Please do not try to spead rumours and create further confusion.
Thaks
what to belive is it true or flase
Dear Colleagues, the information provided by Mr. James is absolutely correct. The file is still with the MHRD. And yes there is rumour in the Ministry corridors that there is no PBIV for Lect SG with 3 years experience (this is contrary to waht the UGC faculty has been given).So I request all to immediately do whatever one can to verify this report/rumour.
Thanks
if it is really true, then we r all lucky enough that we got atleast now.
still we cannot believe the words of Mr Balbeer & Jp. because there are no information related to this news.
so please i request you to provide the authenticated source so that we can really relay upon.
Dear Prof Balbeer,
The situation today, is such that I would certainly like to trust you. I hope you are telling the truth. And if it is true, please bring some more details of the report.
PRATIMA DIXIT OFF PHONE-011 23386561/011 23382698.Friends Smt Pratima Dikshit should know the exact status.Do try to call her and see if anyone of us could extract some information which could then be posted on this hub.
Thanks
PRATIMA DIXIT OFF PHONE-011 23386561/011 23382698.Friends Smt Pratima Dikshit should know the exact status.Do try to call her and see if anyone of us could extract some information which could then be posted on this hub.
Thanks
what mrs pratima is saying is that mhrd had sent the file last wednesday and probably aicte might have notified it.
WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!! PBIV being denied to Diploma level even after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade.Engg Degree gets UGC scales with minor changes.WAKE UP WAKe UP!!! This is an authentic news.File still not signed and discussion on this issue (ie PBIV to Diploma after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade) is still being discussed.Please pull all your strength and act fast.WAKE UP WAKE UP FAST.Act fast.
May GOD help us all in getting our due .
Regards to ALL
Comment by 'aaa' that he spoke to Smt Pratima Dickshit and the file has been sent to AICTE is ABSOLUTELY BASELESS.PLEASE DO NOT RELY ON ANY OTHER NEWS THAN WHAT I HAVE STATED ABOVE.Act fast lest we all our gouing to repent later.Please act fast
WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!! PBIV being denied to Diploma level even after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade.Engg Degree gets UGC scales with minor changes.WAKE UP WAKe UP!!! This is an authentic news.File still not signed and discussion on this issue (ie PBIV to Diploma after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade) is still being discussed.Please pull all your strength and act fast.WAKE UP WAKE UP FAST.Act fast.
May GOD help us all in getting our due .
Regards to ALL
Comment by 'aaa' that he spoke to Smt Pratima Dickshit and the file has been sent to AICTE is ABSOLUTELY BASELESS.PLEASE DO NOT RELY ON ANY OTHER NEWS THAN WHAT I HAVE STATED ABOVE.Act fast lest we all our gouing to repent later.Please act fast
THE INFORMATION ON AICTE PAY NOTIFICATION IS TRUE.JUST NOW I CALLED MR R.K KUNDI,ASST DIRECTOR AT THE INFORMATION CENTRE AND HE TOLD ME THAT AICTE PAY REVISION FILE FROM HRD MINISTRY HAS BEEN SIGNED BY THE CHAIRMAN FOR NOTIFICATION BEFORE HE LEAVES FOR OSLO.WITH EFFECT FROM 7-9-2009
MOST URGENT AND IMPORTANT
TO NCS,PALA,AIFPTO:
WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!! PBIV being denied to Diploma level even after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade.Engg Degree gets UGC scales with minor changes.WAKE UP WAKe UP!!! This is an authentic news.File still not signed and discussion on this issue (ie PBIV to Diploma after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade) is still being discussed.Please pull all your strength and act fast.Time is running out.WAKE UP WAKE UP FAST.Act fast.
May GOD help us all in getting our due .
Regards to ALL
I SUSPECT DR ALLAH IS SIBALS REPRESENTATIVE OR SIBAL HIMSELF .ALLAH IS MISLEADING ALL OF US.HE IS TRYING TO DIVIDE US AND REQUIRES THE POLY TEACHERS WHO ARE IN LARGE NUMBERS TO MAKE PROTESTS SO THAT A NEW COMMITTEE CAN BE FORMED AND THE PAY REVISION REPORT TO GET FREEZED INDEFINITELY DONT SUPPORT OR ENCOURAGE HIM
remarkable comment from mr kundi.he is saying that the website operator of aicte is on maternity leave and the notification could be put on the website only after her return on oct 7.
Dear 'aaa':
Please let me know the source of info.Please come out in the open if u r sure of yr info.Do not mislead .
Dear 'aaa':
Please let me know the source of info.Please come out in the open if u r sure of yr info.Do not mislead .
PBIV denied to Diploma Teachers.Confirmed news.Please ACt FAST.
PBIV denied to Diploma Teachers.Confirmed news.Please ACt FAST.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.WHY SHOULD WE WAIT FOR THE PUMP OPERATOR OR TELEPHONE OPERATORS DELIVARY TO GET A COPY OF RELEASED NOTIFICATION.LET THEM RELEASE IN THE PRESS
I too have some info that PBIV is being denied to Diploma teachers even after 3 years as Lect (sel gr).Please I request all in Delhi to look into this issue.If this is true the polytechnic teachers are doomed.
I too have some info that PBIV is being denied to Diploma teachers even after 3 years as Lect (sel gr).Please I request all in Delhi to look into this issue.If this is true the polytechnic teachers are doomed.
MR Allah,you and NCS are the only diploma teachers using this hub.if you have something to do with your payband of sg lecturers please call NCS directly to his cell and inform the matter.he is very close to minister purendeswari and could do something
hi aaa
This hub does not belong to your father or wife. why do worry about it?. Let Allah post his views. What is wrong with it.
Comments should not become personal. Pls post only useful and valid info
get lost sandeep,santhosh.and allah
POLY IDIOTS
Hi aaa
oh! it seems it aaa is unhappy. why?
By the way 'aaa' is seemds to be happy if polytechnic teaches do not get PB-4. But, I feel polytechnic teachers need not to be unhappy. When IIT guys have been treated as UGC (or less than), it is not surprising to see deniel of PB-4 for Polytechnic teachers. In this country, only voice fetches, not the merit. It seems Govt. wants to promote social sciences and, on the other hand, cries for shortage of technical teachers. It is hightime that technical teachers, irrespective of IIT/Engg?Dip should get united.
Dear all,
Hub is like a public place. Express anything but within limits of decency. All should refrain from unbecoming language as many studnets, teahcers and parents all are visiting this hub page, to my knowledge.
Dear fellow teachers, The idea behind denying PB4 for poly teachers is just make them aggressive so that they can form another committee and delay it for few more months. Whatever it comes they can not satisfy all of us. It is better to get now or we may have to face serious problems.
what about AICTE pay scale of polytechnic teachers?. should be same as Degree college teaches or not?.
request to all to post true facts in this regard maintaining dignity.
many people in this hub had gone mad.many became philosophers or saints.we cant blame anyone for writing one hundred percent ridiculous and false statements deliberately burrying truth.for them such illusions are the end results of chronic waiting,grief,vexation and mortification and are really satisfied from such fantasies.THE TRUTH IS THAT,SO FAR THERE IS NO SUCH NOTIFICATION FROM THE PART OF MHRD OR AICTE.FROM AUTHENTICATED SOURCES I CAME TO KNOW THAT MHRD IS STILL WORKING ON THE REPORT.AFTER THE WORK IS OVER THEY HAVE TO GET CLEARANCE FROM THE FINANCE DEPT.IF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT CLEARS WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION,THE MHRD ITSELF CAN NOTIFY.BUT HERE WHAT THE MHRD IS GOING TO DO IS SENDING THE FILE TO THE MOST CORRUPTED BODY OF THE UNIVERSE FOR NOTIFICATION,WHICH IS ONLY FOR WASHING THEIR HANDS AND DELAYING THINGS FOR ANOTHER 4 TO 6 MONTHS AS U.G.C HAD DONE EARLIER,WASTING SIX MONTHS IN THE NAME OF PREPARING FITMENT TABLES.THIS INTENTION OF MHRD IS CLEAR WHILE UNDERSTANDING THE FACT THAT IIT/IIM/IISC REQUIRED NO AICTE NOTIFICATION.IN 5TH PAY REVISION AICTE NOTIFIED FOR ALL SECTIONS AND IT TOOK 2 YEARS AND FOUR MONTHS AFTER UGC PEOPLE GOT THEIR PAY AND ARREARS.
S.M KRISHNA'S SUIT RENT PER DAY IS ONE LAKH.SASI THARUR'S IS FORTY THOUSAND PER DAY.FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS THEY ARE STAYING IN FIVE STAR HOTELS.30*140000=4200000 i.e,forty two lakhs only for 2 persons room rent.BUT FOR TEACHING COMMUNITY BROODING OVER SOLITUDE AND HYPOCHONDRIACAL MOROSENESS
DEAR DR.FUCKRER,I MAY CORRECT YOU.140000*30*3=12600000=ONE CRORE AND TWENTY SIX LAKHS
DEAR PK I MEANT 42 LAKHS PER MONTH OR 1.25 CRORES FOR THREE MONTHS
its shame on u pranab.first u curtail such expenses before denying vehicles to departments and asking officials to travel in low classes
Dear All,
Our honorable Prime Minister has praised his team of HRD Ministers for their work. (Source : Deccan Chronicle)
Is there any update available on the File with MHRD ? or the possible notification ? or the likely corridor rumours ?
Still no confirmation.
wait my dear friends
Last time the pay revision took place, AICTE isuued notification for pay revision on 10th March, 2000. AICTE may repeat the same in March 2010. A snail has 5 hearts and a leach has 32 brains. AICTE/MHRD wants that technical teachers should not have any heart to grieve and no brain to think and plan.
NCS Please post the latest.Where are u??? We need some information as to the status of the file????????
At least show us your presence
NCS Please post the latest.Where are u??? We need some information as to the status of the file????????
At least show us your presence
wait till the formation of NCHER.MOS FOR HRD assured me that we will get the best. for that a little bit of patience is required.already we waited up to this moment.little more please.
AICTE pay scale of polytechnic teachers should be same as that of Degree College teachers. There is no difference between the two.
sg lect.after three yrs will placed in PB4
sg lect.after three yrs will placed in PB4
Dear NCS,
You know now that NCHER will come into being only next year after the bill is passed in winter session and is notified. Means, till then, MHRD will not take decision. Atrocious really. Quite possible, no one listens to unorganised sections of society, really. Private college teachers are generally not united or organsied in form of associations.Hence this fate.
dear aaa,
some people always overreact sometimes , particularly now due to raised frustrations of teachers of aicte approved institutions due to inordinate delay.Please ignore all that and advise the latest position if at all the pay revision for enginneering and management institutes has been cleared by MHRD or sent to AICTE or not yet. What is your information, pls update as you are in Delhi and have access to information.
dear rks,
You are talking of SG lect of Engineering college or Polytechnic? and the source of information? Please come out, share.
Dear Dr. akc
The indirect cause for delay is private engg. college managements. Anyway, the things are not as hard as Mr. NCS say. I am in regular contact with Mrs.Pratima DIxit. As per her, the Engg. college notification is almost ready and waiting for Internal FD clearence for Polytechnic teachers pay scales. It seems there are some issues with polytecnic teachers pay scales (PB-4, professor etc.). FD have has asked for all the deatils of earlier pay commision reports for polytechnic teachers. As soon as those problems are resoved, the notification will be out or MHRD may direct AICTE to notify as this does not require Cabinet Approval.
Thanks Mr. Raj for sharing the info.
Dear every faculty member in technical education:
I can understand most of faculty members can not ask Principals or managements for pay revision. Neither private institutions faculty generally demonstrate or strike work like government departments whose job is secure inspite of their exercising the right to protest.
If the pace of MHRD is like this, technical teachers will not celebrate this diwali also with the kind of joy the UGC/IIt/IIMs faculty will have. Govt staff already getting another 60% arrears too.
I have a suggestion that we should draft a common petition and put on hub page. Let every one of us visiting this page and all our community fellows in colleges/polytechnics, write individual letters and flood the office of Mr. Kapil Sibal with letters requesting to intervene and consider the issue so that notification comes in a week to 10 days and deepawali / pooja festival is celeberated with joy like other teachers. Please comment on this suggestion. I dont think we cant do even this much, and shall be doing nothing illegal, unbecoming or unjustified under the circumstances. I think we must do this to highlight our plight. Can some of our btothers have some sympathisers in Press and Media? We can highlight there also. Please come on, the time has come to do something otherwise AICTE record of 2 years delay like 5th pay revision is certain to happen (pls dont mind my making this a bit negative remark dampening your spirits but this is a fact). Do you want I should draft a simple petition? Pls respond in large numbers giving your views. Only giving suggestions on hub page without doing anything will not help, sirs.
Dear Dr AKC,
Good sugession. I think all shall support it. Pls draft the petition. Atleast I will follow you. All the Best.
dear Dr akc, please go ahead with the thing you suggested, we r all with u and we have to fight for our justice. this is the right time for all the techical (aicte ) faculties to unite together and fight against the govt( devil).
Dear Dr.AKC,
Please draft the letter and post it in this hub. Also, send this drafted letter to the Editors of all Newspapers.
Dear Dr AKC,
Your suggestion indeed is very good. We all must support the same. This can really add to the pressure on government. You can also suggest the implementation of the same. How we all can get involved ?
Good Suggestion. We should support it. Also we should keep on posting letters to PMO
Good proposal We all in support Please go head and draft the letter and post it in this hub.
why teachers of technical institutes ( IIT/NIT/ENGG. COLLEGE/POLYTECHNIC)get every thing in last ,when they will get 6th pay scale
why teachers of technical institutes ( IIT/NIT/ENGG. COLLEGE/POLYTECHNIC)get every thing in last ,when they will get 6th pay scale
why teachers of technical institutes ( IIT/NIT/ENGG. COLLEGE/POLYTECHNIC)get every thing in last ,when they will get 6th pay scale
Congrates at last we got it
how and what is the source
"hh" stop bakwas. give source.
The only department not yet announced the 6 th pay commission revised pay is DOTE (Directrate of Technical Education) controlled Govt. and Aided Engineering colleges in Tamilnadu. Why they are delaying the things done?. The appropriate official should take swept action for the same.
Dear hh,
Good that you got something !!! Is it something related to 6th pay commission...?
dear hh, what is that you have got?
please dont make fun of all the technical faculties of AICTE.
i think u may be a prof under ugc?
DA up by 5% for other Govt. Staff!!!!
Delhi University Vice-Chancellor Deepak Pental has written to the Lt Governor of Delhi stating that the legislative assembly of NCT of
Delhi has no constitutional or statutory power to make a law affecting the operation of Delhi University Act and that Delhi government has violated the DU Act by not seeking the Centre's approval for converting Delhi College of Engineering into Delhi Technological University.
Pental, in his letter written on September 7 (a copy of which is with this paper) to Tejendra Khanna stated that "Delhi College of Engineering is one of the constituent colleges of the University of Delhi under statute 30 of the statutes of the University of Delhi, and the name of the college also figures under the statues of the university. The statutes of the University of Delhi have been framed under Section 28 of Delhi University Act with the previous approval of the President of India in his capacity as Visitor of the University of Delhi. Therefore, it becomes mandatory for Delhi government to seek approval of the Central Government before notifying the said Act in its official gazette.
The letter also alleges that DTU Act 2009 has violated statue 30 of the statutes of DU according to which its constituent or affiliated institution may not suspend instruction in any subject or course of study which it is authorized to teach and teaches without the permission of the executive and academic council.
The letter further says that the "teachers of Delhi College of Engineering are teachers of the university and that the legislative assembly of NCT of Delhi cannot make a law with respect to any matter mentioned in the Union List i.e. List 1 in Schedule VII to the Constitution. Entry 63 in List 1 mentions, among others, Delhi University.''
DUTA demands Govt colleges teachers be declared DU teachers
New Delhi, Sep 9 : Hailing the stand of the Delhi University against irregular change of status of the Delhi College of Engineering (DCE), the Delhi University Teachers' Association today demanded that teachers in all Government maintained colleges of the capital be declared as 'Teachers of the University'.
DUTA president Aditya Narayan Misra told mediapersons here that in the past, the University had wavered on the issue that led to discrimination against the teachers in the Government maintained colleges in terms of service conditions and retirement age.
''Even in court cases, the University had failed to take the same welcome stand which it has taken now in the case of DCE by maintaing them as 'Teachers of the University'.
''The University should write to all the Government maintained colleges that the teachers therein are 'Teachers of the University' and are governed by the University Ordinances. This would help in sorting out many issues,'' he said.
The Government colleges included A & U Tibbia College, College of Art, Delhi Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences and Research, Raj Kumar Amrit Kaur College of Nursing, Nehru Homeopathic Medical College, Ahilyabai College of Nursing, Maulana Azad Medical College and Lady Hardinge Medical College.
The Delhi Technological University Bill, 2009, passed in the Delhi Assembly recently, bestowed deemed university status on the Delhi College of Engineering (DCE) by upgrading it to a State University under the name of Delhi Technological University (DTU).
The Delhi College of Engineering Teachers’ Association and demanded that DCE be linked to Delhi University.
Dr.AKC,
Prepare the petition and display for us to add if some one wants to.
This is the only way we strangers can fight for a cause of common concern.
Best wishes.
Hi hh
What u got? is it Banana?
AICTE SCALES WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN ONE WEEK
AICTE SCALES WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN ONE WEEK
AICTE SCALES WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN ONE WEEK
ALREADY AICTE SCALES ARE ANNOUNCED, CLEAR FITMENT IS TO BE DEFINED WHICH WILL BE DONE IN ONE WEEK
ALREADY AICTE SCALES ARE ANNOUNCED, CLEAR FITMENT IS TO BE DEFINED WHICH WILL BE DONE IN ONE WEEK
ALREADY AICTE SCALES ARE ANNOUNCED, CLEAR FITMENT IS TO BE DEFINED WHICH WILL BE DONE IN ONE WEEK
Where is the news of announcement???
pls inform us from where have u got that message
Even if MHRD announces today or in a week or in a month, it is AICTE that will take another 3 months. Our petition will make our minister aware of our frustrations and travails and who knows, he may act too. Do not presume nothing will happen. Otherwise also what has happened except all of us getting fooled by any one posting anything unconfirmed on the hub. It is pure Gandhigiri, my fellows.
Be prepared to spend Rs 10-20 on couriering petitions in large numbers , everyone please. Persuade others too for peaceful petitions in large numbers as a method of representing our issue to higher authorities. Because we are not able to act like UGC or IIT/IIM teachers, the way the Government understands as exhibited by their conduct.
At least there will be a feeling of doing something for ourselves ,whatever little it is. I hope you will agree. The petition will be uploaded any time soon.
Even if MHRD announces today or in a week or in a month, it is AICTE that will take another 3 months. Our petition will make our minister aware of our frustrations and travails and who knows, he may act too. Do not presume nothing will happen. Otherwise also what has happened except all of us getting fooled by any one posting anything unconfirmed on the hub. It is pure Gandhigiri, my fellows.
Be prepared to spend Rs 10-20 on couriering petitions in large numbers , everyone please. Persuade others too for peaceful petitions in large numbers as a method of representing our issue to higher authorities. Because we are not able to act like UGC or IIT/IIM teachers, the way the Government understands as exhibited by their conduct.
At least there will be a feeling of doing something for ourselves ,whatever little it is. I hope you will agree. The petition will be uploaded any time soon.
11.09.09
Mr. Kapil Sibal,
The Honorable Cabinet Minister
MHRD, Govt. of India
19, Teen Murti Marg, New Delhi-110 001
Re: Drawing your kind attention to inordinate delay in pay revision of technical teachers
of institutions under AICTE
Sir,
All pay revision issues of several lakhs of Government employees are already settled in September 2008. They got both installments of arrears too. Lakhs of University teachers under UGC got the same in June 2009.
Only a few thousand technical teachers with similar qualifications and responsibilities are denied pay revision for one reason or the other.. You will please not disagree that technical teachers too have needs, feelings, dignity and need speedy pay revision. They also feel like agitating like other sections of society but have always practised restrained and responsible behaviour.
By this petition, we request you to please intervene in the matter to speed up our pay revision. We further request you to also direct AICTE to notify the revised pay scales without any delay like they always do for reasons best known to them but always unclear to us. During 5th Pay Commission revision also , notified by the Govt. on 9th October, 1998 , technical teachers were the last to get after delay of two years by AICTE notification on May 3, 2000.
We hope that compared to Deepawali -2008, the ensuing Deepawali -2009 will bring much delayed joy to Technical Teachers also due to your intervention.
Thanking you ,
Yours truly,
(Signature)
Name____________________ Designation________________________
Residential Address ______________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________________
Dear Dr.AKC,
Please send the petition to all the news reporters and the Editors of all papers. Let us all inform them that we are sending mass representations to the honorable HRD Minister.
Hi all,
What happened. No response. Pls copy, paste , make some minimum necessary changes if at all necessary, and send a courier tomorrow at Mr. Sibal's residential address so that it reaches him direct. Act fast, at least this much we can do for ourselves.
Release of additional instalment of dearness allowance to Central Government employees and dearness relief to Pensioners, due from 1.7.2009
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14:49 IST
The Cabinet has decided to release an additional instalment of Dearness Allowance (DA) to Central government employees and Dearness Relief (DR) to pensioners w.e.f. 1.7.2009 representing an increase of 5% over the existing rate of 22% of the Basic Pay/Pension, to compensate for price rise. The increase is in accordance with the accepted formula, which is based on the recommendations of the 6th Central Pay Commission. The combined impact on the exchequer on account of both dearness allowance and dearness relief would be of the order of Rs.4355.35 crore in a full year and Rs.2903.55 crore in the financial year 2009-2010 (for a period of 8 months from July, 2009 to February, 2010).
Good work dear AKC,
I would suggest it be more aggressive. I have made few changes, please see them if they fit.
Sir,
All pay revision issues of several lakhs of Government employees are already settled in September 2008. They got both installments of arrears too. Lakhs of University teachers under UGC got the same in June 2009.
Only a few thousand technical teachers with similar qualifications and responsibilities are denied (as delay in notification will deprive the arrears of majority of the teachers, especially working in private colleges and polytechnics) pay revision for one reason or the other.. You will (please) not disagree that technical teachers too have needs, feelings, dignity and need speedy pay revision. They also feel like agitating like other sections of society but have always practised restrained and responsible behaviour AND DIGNITY.
By this petition, we request you to please intervene in the matter to speed up our pay revision. We further request you to also direct AICTE (HITHER TO VILLIAN TO TECHNICAL EDUCATION)to notify the revised pay scales without any delay like they always do for reasons best known to them but always unclear to us. During 5th Pay Commission revision also , notified by the Govt. on 9th October, 1998 , technical teachers were the last to get after delay of two years by AICTE notification on May 3, 2000.
We hope that compared to Deepawali -2008, the ensuing Deepawali -2009 will bring much delayed joy to Technical Teachers also due to your intervention.
Dear Mr. Babu and all others,
Pls see if you can take help of some friend or relative to publish in media about petitions being sent to the honorable HRD Minister by technical teachers under AICTE regulation.
today itself am going to send the petition framed by akc to both ministers of mhrd at their residential address.the residential address of d.purendeswari at delhi**B-201,MS FLATS,BKS MARG,NEW DELHI,110 OO1.I ALSO REQUEST ALL OF YOU TO DO THE SAME AS SUGESTED BY AKC
Dear Dr AKC,
Thanks for doing a good work... I have also taken a copy and am sending it to various ministers and copies to regional news papers.
Dear all,
Please mark the envelope as " Personal and confidential" so tht it goes to the Minister.
very good.. go ahead
Kudungappa,, mudiyalappa.,
Dear Mr. LEEE,
What should we understand from your comments in your dialect? Good, bad or else? Pls translate.
Mr. R_rajanprakash
What should we understand from your comments in your dialect? Good, bad or else? Pls translate.
I hope, Mr LEEE is expressing his happiness that we have atleast started a new effort. Of course, I do not understand his language.
Dear NCS:
Somehow , I have developed faith in your disclosures and information. Kindly post the latest information.
All the best .
Kudungappa,, mudiyalappa., means struggled and saturation point reached. only with earliest announcement can tackle further. this is the condition of techies.
Kudungappa,, mudiyalappa., means
please try to give.., i can't tolerate
Please do as suggested by Dr. AKC. Flood the MHRD Ministers with couriers at their residences.
very good idea
article 14 means right to equality.that is equality before law.THE STATE SHALL NOT DENY TO ANY PERSON EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW OR THE EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS WITH IN THE TERRITORY OF INDIA.what iam coming to say is we should now think of filing a suit on the state's violation of article 14.article 14 guarentees equal oppurtunity to all.denying benifits to a particular class or group clearly indicates state's violation of the law
Dear all,
I hope many of us must have couriered petitions to Hon. HRD minsiter today. Dont blame AICTE for delay in pay revision if you yourself delay this simple gandhigiri that too not for others but for yourselves.
I request all to do as suggested by Dr AKC. Letters as per the format given above in this hub should be couriered to the residences of both the ministers of HRD.
This would really work, I am pretty sure about it.
Thanks to all who have already done this exercise.
This delay in announcement of notification is rediculous. MHRD/AICTE should have atleast conveyed or notified to grant the pay, equivalent to UGC pay scales. Differences can be paid later on. It is difficult to believe and accept that such a simple and easy step is not taken by government. And we are denied the 6th pay since almost a year. A bunch of people are simply playing with our lives. Such injustice is again promoted by the ministers. The pay scales of the officers of AICTE and UGC should be raised at the last, after they have cleared notifications of all concerned. Its shameful !!!!
Dear all,
Shall we suggest to the Honourable Minsiter to clear the pay as per UGC fitment table tentatively (subject to adjustments as per final payment on notification) to be disbursed before Diwali pending finalisation of scales. I think this is quite justified step to set right the insjustice partly, seeing inordinate delay already made. For that we can send another follow-up petition next Monday suggesting this.Matter of another Rs.10 to 20 and anothter step in Gandhigiri. Pls apprise each other of your views on this hub page.
It is advisable, at this stage,not to do anything else but to insist only on aicte revised scales. Otherwise, matter will get complicated.
Where r u, Mr. R Jain? Why have u stopped visiting ur blog since Aug 19th? U were contributing valuable information of interest to engg college/poly teachers.Pl come & share information with us.Hope u will not disappoint us.Thanks.
SSV/RSV Pl share with us the sources of ur information.
FROM RELIABLE SOURCES IT IS HEARD THAT MHRD IS NOW WORKING ON RECTIFYING ANOMALIES OF IIT PAY REVISION DEFERING AICTE FILE.OUR FILE WILL BE FORWARDED ONLY AFTER IIT FILE REPAIR.
It is heard that all the state governments should implement, if not already done, the MHRD announced UGC Pay Scales for the college and University Teachers to avail the central grant. If this is correct, we also can expect quick decisions from the concerned.
The Kerala Government Medical College Teachers’ Association (KGMCTA) withdrew its strike, which has been continuing despite the Government approving revised pay scales, on Friday following discussions with the Health Secretary and the Health Minister who promised to look into the anomalies in the current pay revision.
The president of KGMCTA A. Sarathkumar told the media here that while KGMCTA had serious objections about the Government diluting the promises of a UGC-level pay scale to Medical College teachers, it was withdrawing the strike as the Government had said that it was willing to discuss all unresolved issues. The issues included the extended working hours, reduced patient care allowance and the lack of facilities for research activities.
The Government has also agreed to constitute a committee to look into the anomalies in the newly revised pay structure and service conditions, he added.
All duties that were being boycotted by KGMCTA for the past three months as part of its strike demanding revised pay scales, including pay ward admissions, VIP and examination duties, will resume with immediate effect, Dr. Sarath said.
The Government had announced the newly revised pay structure for Medical College teachers on Wednesday. Though the package offered substantial hike in pay, the Government also linked it to service conditions like extended duty hours and a ban on private practice by doctors.
However, KGMCTA rejected the package as the Government had unilaterally fixed Patient Care Allowance at 15 per cent of the basic pay, which was not sufficient, according to doctors. The Health Minister had on Thursday asked KGMCTA to withdraw the strike and resume pay ward duties immediately. But till late night on Thursday, even as discussions were on with the Government, KGMCTA had been holding on to its stand.
He clarified that the issue of private practice ban had never been a contentious issue to the present KGMCTA leadership because during initial discussions itself, KGMCTA had said that given a respectable salary, doctors were willing to give up private practice.
“Our stand is that whether or not to impose a ban on private practice is a Government’s policy decision and we will not interfere in it,” Dr. Sarath said.
Meanwhile, the newly elected KGMCTA leadership has been vehemently opposing the ban on private practice . But Dr. Sarath, the out-going president who had been defeated by a slender margin by the lobby opposing private practice ban, said that the KGMCTA’s election results were not official yet. The central executive committee of KGMCTA was meeting on Sunday to hold re-counting of votes.
Even if the newly elected group managed to stay on, according to KGMCTA’s constitution, they can officially take over only after the annual general body meeting when the charge would be handed over by the out-going leadership.
“Till that time, all official decisions taken by the current leadership will stand. As the present president of KGMCTA, I am announcing the withdrawal of the strike,” Dr. Sarath said.
NCS where are you. Please post the latest.
Thanks and regards
Hope all of us are taking the suggestion of Dr AKc seriously
Hope all of us are taking the suggestion of Dr AKc seriously
HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS****************************POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PAY REVISION WORK OVER.THE SECOND PART OF MEHTA COMMISSION FOR ALL REMAINING INSTITUTIONS IS GOING TO BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.
HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS****************************POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PAY REVISION WORK OVER.THE SECOND PART OF MEHTA COMMISSION FOR ALL REMAINING INSTITUTIONS IS GOING TO BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.
HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS****************************POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PAY REVISION WORK OVER.THE SECOND PART OF MEHTA COMMISSION FOR ALL REMAINING INSTITUTIONS IS GOING TO BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.
Dear NCS:
Thanks for the information. Can you please confirm if the recommendation for polytechnic teachers would not be in any case inferior or lower than the University teachers under UGC ? More specifically, whether upward movement from PB3 to PB4, as in case of UGC, is there or not?
Thanks a lot anyway for the info already provided.
Dear NCS:
Thanks for the information. Can you please confirm if the recommendation for polytechnic teachers would not be in any case inferior or lower than the University teachers under UGC ? More specifically, whether upward movement from PB3 to PB4, as in case of UGC, is there or not?
Thanks a lot anyway for the info already provided.
Dear NCS:
Thanks for the information. Can you please confirm if the recommendation for polytechnic teachers would not be in any case inferior or lower than the University teachers under UGC ? More specifically, whether upward movement from PB3 to PB4, as in case of UGC, is there or not?
Thanks a lot anyway for the info already provided.
NCS ji, How can the scales be notified when the file has still not reached AICTE? I understand that final notification can only be issued by AICTE after the file reaches AICTE from MHRD.Has the file already reached AICTE?.
Please clarify.
Regards and thanks
NCS ji, How can the scales be notified when the file has still not reached AICTE? I understand that final notification can only be issued by AICTE after the file reaches AICTE from MHRD.Has the file already reached AICTE?.
Please clarify.
Regards and thanks
NCS please please reveal the truth.Pl do not play pranks with people who are already pranked.
NCS please please reveal the truth.Pl do not play pranks with people who are already pranked.
THE MHRD HAS FINALLY DECIDED TO NOTIFY THE REVISED AICTE PAY SCALES WITH THE ENTIRE REPORT REALISING THE FACT THAT SENDING THE REPORT TO AICTE CAUSES FURTHER DELAY.
THE MOS FOR HRD ASSURED TO LOOK IN TO THE ISSUE OF DEGRADATION OF PAY SCALES FOR POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PARTICULARLY IN THE ENTRY CADRE AND THE TIME SPAN FOR PROMOTION FROM Pb3 TO Pb4
EXCEPT THAT FOR NITS,ALL THE CATOGORIES' WILL BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.THE PAY SCALES FOR NITS WILL BE NOTIFIED ALONG WITH THE REVISED CFTI's SCALES BY OCTOBER END
Dear all,
We must appreciate his efforts to liaise with MHRD. Mr. NCS has given so many informations from MHRD in past one year also but nothing actually materialised as per informations. Always there were gitches.
I suggest if the notification by MHRD does not happen on Monday, then do not wait to shoot petitions if you want sometning should be done about revision of pay scales by ourselves.
What about unaided Engineeing Colleges? They will be covered?
never direct your children to teaching proffession rather rearing pigs
Dear NCS:
Was there ever such a move of denmying PB4 to us? If yes has it been thrashed out or not?
I would like to believe whatever you have posted.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dear NCS:
Was there ever such a move of denmying PB4 to us? If yes has it been thrashed out or not?
I would like to believe whatever you have posted.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dear NCS:
Was there ever such a move of denmying PB4 to us? If yes has it been thrashed out or not?
I would like to believe whatever you have posted.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dear Mr. NCS,
Dear Mr. NCS,
Thanks for sharing such a hot piece of hot information. However, pl give the source of this vital information.That will please us all.Hope to hear from u soon.
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Dear all
Just look at the previou posting of NCS
NCS says:
9 days ago
Dear teachers,yesterday evening i met one seniormost official of aicte.He told me that national council for higher education and research is going to be constituted on oct 2,birthday of mahatmaji.All the bodies of higher education including ugc.aicte,ncert,dec etc are going to be dissolved at the earliest.There is strict order from the ministry to complete ALL the pending works in a speedy manner so that NCHER can have smooth initial functioning.Except iit/iim/iisc pay revision,everything regarding remaining technical teachers will be considered by NCHER after its formation in a warline manner.so i request everyone be calm and patient till the end of october
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Now, the NCS is contrdicting his earlier posting?
Can we still hope on NCS's latest posting?
I am sure NCS would have a good reason for posting his earlier comment about formation of NCHER. May be something has happened in these nine days like 'rejection' of Sh Kapil Sibal's proposal to bring about a chnage by an act of parliament.
Howver, NCS may please reply.
Thanks
I am sure NCS would have a good reason for posting his earlier comment about formation of NCHER. May be something has happened in these nine days like 'rejection' of Sh Kapil Sibal's proposal to bring about a chnage by an act of parliament.
Howver, NCS may please reply.
Thanks
Dear friends,
The AIFPTO office bearers led by Sri N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secretary; Sri Y. Narsaiah Goud, Treasurer and Sri K.S. Shiva Ramu, President, AGOTE have met Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon'ble MOS for HRD on 10th at New Delhi and apprised her on the status of Pay Revision for Polytechnic teachers. They have also represented on the grave apprehensions of the teachers about the denial of PB4 for the Polytechnic teachers. The Minister immediately talked to Sri Ashok Thakur, Addl. Secretary and Ms. Pratima Dixit of the matter. Later she directed the AIFPTO office bearers to meet the Addl. Secretary. During the discussions with the Addl. Secretary, the Federation was informed that since the Central Govt. is not giving any financial assistance to the States, whatever Prof.Goverdhan Mehta has recommended for Poly. Teachers is being sent in toto by the HRD to AICTE for Notification in the coming week. Let's all wait for a few more days.
Commendable effort by AIFPTO. Keep it up.
The denial of pb4 for polytechnic teachers will bring the plot for polytechnic teachers for strong protest or file the writ petition.Since the last many years the polytechnic teachers were getting pay scales at par engineering college teachers.A working committee during 1986 decided that the lecturers with three tire scales will get equivalent to the engg. college lecturers,HODs were equivalent to assistant professors/readers of engg. college and principal polytechnic were equivalent to professors engg.college with a slight curtail in upper limit of professor engg.college scales.Hence the same pattern should never be changed in any case.
Thanks Mr. NCS,
If the news comes out to be true on revision notification next week, it will be end of the long ordeal for technical teachers.
Dear Polytechnic Teachers,
Awake! Arise, or be fallen foe ever. If the notification puts you degraded as compared to the UGC scales, be prepared for a nationwide unprecedented strike. For years, entry level qualification and selection procedure for engineering colleges and polytechnics have been the same. There are many persons working in polytechnics as per their own choice inspite of being on higher positions in the common selection list of the PSC, so that sort of discrimination cannot be tolerated any more.We will have to ensure complete closure of work as now-a-days there are only 10% regular teachers and govt. can run the institutions with contract and part-time staff.Think over it till the notification is issed and let us hope for the best!
Notification is just a dream
Go to bed and slip for dream
OK man
Dear Respected Technical teachers,
Whether we are to expect the notification for pay revision today?
Dear Respected Technical teachers,
Whether we are to expect the notification for pay revision today?
Dear Respected Technical teachers,
Whether we are to expect the notification for pay revision today?
notification is out? matter is over
dont try to search these all websites for u r pay scales defntly u never get that new scale forget everything live happily with u r present salary best sugestn of the year 2009 ,2010,2011& 2012
Dear skg,
Pls advise source of your info. When and where can we see the notification on AICTE technical teachers pay revision as informed by you.
dear skg
pl reveal the source of ur information as we all r anxiously waiting for the notification
Notification LBW
Hi kk
Is it leg before wicket? Funny fellow!. Do not post such mysterious postings.
Notification is out,available on MHRD website
Degree level technical teachers pay scales are better than IIT/Niit
Dear Dingdong
There is no such notification on MHRD site. Do not make fool of others.
Dear Dingdong
There is no such notification on MHRD site. Do not make fool of others.
Dear Dingdong
There is no such notification on MHRD site. Do not make fool of others.
Mr. Dingdong can u please provide the link. I find no link in the MHRD website.
'Dingdong" tera ghanti bajgaya kya? Every body, keep no "Varosa" without any Link provided.
common dingdong... give information
common dingdong... give information
Hi IDIOT dingdong,
Do not dingdong with the frustrated teachers. It is not fair.
Hi dingdong,
you r expected to give correct information.
Do not play at this hub
Dear NCS:
What's the latest?
Thanks
TOTAL VACUUM
hi ...can anybody provide the correct status of the pay report for polytechnic teachers
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Mr.Raj,tera bhi ghanti baj gya.ha----haaaaaaaa
Hi friends
Black list
dingdong, kk, skg
These idiots donot have guts to identify themselves. How can we expect genuine information from such useless fellows. Ignore their postings.
here is a good news for polytechnic teachers that their recommended pay scales are at par with degree level teachers
Mr Dingdong,
What sort of a man you are! Perhaps you are not a teacher at all as you dare to play with the sentiments of teachers at these troubled times. Stop playing pranks and get out of this hub if you have nothing authentic to share
dingdong bastard
poly technic teachers will get pay as par with IIT professors,every ambition has little limit.
Mr mm
Why r u measuring the quality of polytechnic teachers with the job profile of their passouts. My dear friends. polytechnic teachers are equally qualified as compared to engineering teachers. In Madhya Pradesh all polytechnic teachers are MTech/ME. Now lot of them are persuing PhD. Why a lower scale for them????
Dear mm and other friends
I donot think polytechnic teachers aspire for IIT professor scales. However, there is nothing wrong to expect professors post for qualified people , as is being done for UG colleges in UGC scales. Also,any degration, as is being done to IIITs, from earlier status can not be justified and tolerated. Today, polytechnics(especially, Govt.polytechnics) have facuty with good qualification ( better than thousands of Engg. colleges). AICTE sclae have attracted good and qualified faculty for polytechnics fold. Degradtion is like cheating the existing qualified polytechnic teachers.
Moreover, most of the polytechnics are in rural fold and good AICTE scales are one of the right measures to strengthen the technical education in rural India.
Look at UGC pay scales for undergradute college teachers. Earlier, there was no professor post in UG colleges. In the revised sclaes it has been introduced. What is wrong in introducing professor post in polytechnics too for qualified people? (Let us not talk about reseach, even in UG colleges no reseach is being done).
Compared to ug colleges,our poly people are 100 times better,Any lower scales compared to ugc scales will not be tolerated
Dear Honorable Technical Teachers,
There is no use of posting irrelevant messages. I request you to go through all the messages posted here before you post a new one. There is no use of posting messages. STOP
Mr.jp, are U a peon ,U can not be a teacher.U have such a cheap mentality.
ok.ok... cool down dingdong
Dear Friends,
Govt. Engineering college staff will never worry about 6th pay now. Whenever 6th pay is going to impelment, they will get arrears from 1/1/2006. They will get better lumpsum amoutnt as arrears. But the problem for only Self finance engg.college staff. They never get arrers for pay revision. They will not claim anything and also they will not agitate againt government for 6th pay, because they are not under government. Only government teaching staff alone agitate aginst government for 6th pay. Because only crying babies alone get milk. Please government teaching staff can agitate againt government for 6th pay
Dear Friends,
Govt. Engineering college staff will never worry about 6th pay now. Whenever 6th pay is going to impelment, they will get arrears from 1/1/2006. They will get better lumpsum amoutnt as arrears. But the problem for only Self finance engg.college staff. They never get arrers for pay revision. They will not claim anything and also they will not agitate againt government for 6th pay, because they are not under government. Only government teaching staff alone agitate aginst government for 6th pay. Because only crying babies alone get milk. Please government teaching staff can agitate againt government for 6th pay
Dear Self finance engg. college teachers.
It is true that you are very unlikely get the arrears. Perhaps, you have to have one more long wait for AICTE pay scale implementations by private engg. colleges (as they ask for fee hike before implementation which might take long time). Of course,private polytechnic teachers never aspire for AICTE scales as they feel it to be a day dream (mentally prepared for not to demand).
It is astonishing to see that inspite of such injustice happening to these section of teachers for years, there is no movement to unite and fight these injustices yet.
As far as Govt. polytecnic teachers are concerned, same is the situation with little difference that they get their revised pay without arrears after one more wait.
Dear Ding Dong:
It is an irony that we tend to believe whoever posts a positive post. Ding Dong you are requested to post only authentic news and reports.Please understand that 'mare huae ko aur kyon marna'. I earnestly request all hub visitors 'never' to make a fool of the aggrieved or pained.
Thanks and regards
got it atlast
got it atlast
What did u get n from where? if its for all, share the source/link.
banana?
Dear NCS,
Where are you? When r u bringing new information, we expect something new and authentic from you.
Plan for a nation wide strike.
This is the only one solution
Plan for a nation wide strike.
This is the only one solution
Plan for a nation wide strike.
This is the only one solution
IT is true that only crying babies can get milk. Or else, things will go on with waiting alone.
Please plan for a strike
IT is true that only crying babies can get milk. Or else, things will go on with waiting alone.
Please plan for a strike
We have to show our hatred to the Government. Fast. Again, Assemble elections are approaching. Then, Election code of conduct will come into force.
Please plan for a strike
Polytechnic Instituites are seem to be upperhand institute than ug colleges.Polytechnics in M P and CG are affiliated to technical universities.In M P "polytechnics" are declared "polytechnic colleges" with the reference of a letter issued by AICTE in 2002-03.Since very long period polytechnic faculties are getting pay equivalent to respective posts in Engg.college from lecturer to professor
Dr.Alla,thats like a good person,please dont get so impatient.U will get good news very shortly
Plan for a strike.
We have waited for too long.
Strike is the only solution.
Dear NCS
You have done so much up untill now . Do little more for PB4
All eyes on you . eagarly awaiting your post.
Thanks
Dear NCS
Let us know about latest information on pay revision
16th Sept'2009
Dear All:
I am a first time visitor to this hub.I am providing some very authentic news. The fact of the matter is that I very reluctantly, entered this hub,because the earlier posts, at many accasions add more confusion than doing any good. However, since the time is running out , I thought my duty to present the facts which are as follows:
1) Polytechnic teachers are being denied PB4 as of now.
2) Sh Ashok Thakur, Addl Secretary is a senior IAS officer, who is known for his negative approach. As of now the file for Polytechnic faculty is hopelessly biased against us because of the following reasons:
(i) PB4 is not recommended for polytechnic teachers
(ii) Sh AShok Thakur was also a member of the Goverdhan Mehta committee and he had then also(being a member of Goverdhan Committee) vehemently and vocally advocated the denial of PB4 to polytechnic teachers. He is also known not to retract from a stand he has already taken
(iii) The entire decision regarding polytechnic teachers rest on 2 people Smt Pratima Dikshit Director TC and Sh Ashok Thakur.
(iv) They have now,internally decided to handle even the secretarial work themselves and not to employ the services of their secretarial staff to enable them to maintain total secrecy (Sh Thakur feels that his secretarial staff is responsible for the leak of report for polytechnic teachers).
(iv) Smt Purandeswari Devi relies heavily on Ashok Thakur.
Suggested plan of action:
Try to meet Sh Thakur immedaitely
Tell him that a UGC Hindi lecturer(sel grade) shall draw approx 20% to 30% salary more than us.
In the next pay commission this pay disparity would increase to 50%.
Meet Smt Purandeswari Devi immediately and REGULARLY.
We all shud clearly understand that if this (denial of PB4) happens then this job would not even keep your kitchen fire burning after a few years.
The next pay commission shall further isolate the polytechnic teachers.
A mass movement spread across the entire country shud immediately be mobilised.
To keep this movement alive, I suggest that a token amount of Rs.200/- should immediately be contributed by all .This amount may be given to the person who could lead us.This however could be voluntary as some people who do not want to contribute may choose to do so. But others should immedaitely make the contribution.
I hope we all can unite for a common cause.BUT REMEMBER TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
GOD BLESS US.
Thanks
All this messages are not true. For sure, we have not get the 6th pay still now. We initiate a strike for this alone.
please give me an address to send money
please give me an address to send money
Kick that AICTE members and wake them off . Say them not only to take bribe but also work for the staff also
AIFPTO:
Please take immediate remedial and focussed action on the issue I have stated above. And yes some of the members may want to contribute to the cause . Kindly let them know how they can contribuite. And yes, let all polytechnic teachers realise that this issue (ie denial of PB4 ) affects all polytechnic teachers. For some , the issue shall affect them immediately, for others it shall affect them later if not sooner!!! Thus all state units may contribute to AIFPTO
Infact AIFPTO should not be silent on this issue.Why can't AIFPTO disclose the latest. I am writing this post as I am a member of AIFPTO.Why is AIFPTO silent on this crucial issue????
Corrigendum on my previous post sent a few seconds ago
Please read the last sentence as " I am writing this post as if I an office bearer of AIFPTO( I am not an office bearer of AIFPTO) . Why is AIFPTO silent on this crucial issue?WAKE UP AIFPTO??
please wait,we plans for hunger strike
President of AIFPTO, Mr. Prabir K Ghosh and other union members. Please comment on Sh Anil Shah's information and suggestion. I feel at least 2 members from all state unions of polytechnics should come to Delhi and chalk out a joint plan of action.
I think Mr. Anil Shah's information needs to be taken very seriously.
Sir,
Please unite and take immediate action. I agree with Mr. Ranbeer K Jaiswal.
Yes, AIFPTO should suggest the future course of action.
Dear Anil Shah
It is very good that you have shared lot of information. However, AIFPO ( and N Chandrashekar) is all along giving the impression the polytechnic teachers are likely to get better payscales than their UGC counterparts. Now your posting contradicts the AIFPTO's expectation.
I would like to have some more information on denial of the PB-4 for polytechnic teachers. The polytechnic teachers are heterogeneous with respect to qualifiactions. The qualification band ranges from Diploma to Ph.D.
I would like to know that
(1)wether PB-4 is denied for all, irrespective of Qualification?
(2) If not, for what qualifications PB-4 is denied?
(3) Wether the professor post is created in polytechnics?
Kindly reply.
It is true that an immediate remidial measue needs to be taken before notification.
16/09/09 3:35 PM
AIFPTO please comment and react to Sh Anil Shah's disclosure with reference to your following post:
"AIFPTO says:
3 days ago
Dear friends,
The AIFPTO office bearers led by Sri N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secretary; Sri Y. Narsaiah Goud, Treasurer and Sri K.S. Shiva Ramu, President, AGOTE have met Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon'ble MOS for HRD on 10th at New Delhi and apprised her on the status of Pay Revision for Polytechnic teachers. They have also represented on the grave apprehensions of the teachers about the denial of PB4 for the Polytechnic teachers. The Minister immediately talked to Sri Ashok Thakur, Addl. Secretary and Ms. Pratima Dixit of the matter. Later she directed the AIFPTO office bearers to meet the Addl. Secretary. During the discussions with the Addl. Secretary, the Federation was informed that since the Central Govt. is not giving any financial assistance to the States, whatever Prof.Goverdhan Mehta has recommended for Poly. Teachers is being sent in toto by the HRD to AICTE for Notification in the coming week. Let's all wait for a few more days."
Dear Prasadji:
There is no provision of PB4 for polytechnic teachers and no added qualification would make them eligible for PB4.Further there is no provision for the post of Professor
at the polytechnic level.
However, I must say that, AIFPTO thru Sh Chandrasekhar did/and hopefully is working out a strategy to sort out this issue in our favour. As of now I suggest all to request Sh Chandrasekhar to please look into this new adverse development immediately. Thru my sources I know that Sh Chandrasekhar did come to see the MoS last week. We all shud request him to come to Delhi for a common cause. And yes, I wonder if our union has the finances for his to and fro travel and stay at Delhi. Friends once again I giving an authntic and clear warning!!!All our leaders should act FAST VERY FAST.
Dear Anil sha
Denying PB-4 for polytechnic teachers is like cheating. The matter must be taken very seriously. All polytechnic teachers should contact Mr. N. Chndrashekar (AIFPTO secretary) immediately and extend your whole hearted support
to AIFPTO and chandra shekar. You can search for his Mobile nor. in this hub (It was given long back). Or if somebody knows, kindly disclose it.
Dear Mr. NCS,
Sirji, I am totally confused. What is the true scenario? Can u please let us know ??
Regards and thanks in anticipation.
SAD VERY SAD . AIFPTO PL REPLY IMMD. WE ALL ARE WITH YOU.PL SUGGEST COURSE OF ACTION. ALSO CONFIRM THE DETAILS PROVIDED BY SH ANIL SHAH.
Dear Teachers,
Let us go for a strike. It is time to demonstrate our power.
WE have to make the government understand our strength
NCS mobile no
09848536871
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI
Dear friends,
The representation submitted to the Hon'ble Minister of State by the Federation on 10th September at New Delhi is as follows.
To
Smt. D. Purandeswari,
The Hon’ble Union Minister of State for HRD,
Govt. of India
New Delhi
Respected Madam,
Sub: AIFPTO - Pay Committee Report in respect of Polytechnic teachers – Certain Submissions – Reg.
Ref: Representations to Hon’ble Minister for HRD, Secretary, MHRD & Member Secretary, AICTE.
The Federation wishes to submit the following few lines for your kind consideration and favourable action.
The Federation has in numerous representations to the Hon’ble Minister for HRD, Secretary, MHRD and Member Secretary, AICTE requested for early Notification of Revised Pay scales and Service conditions in respect of teachers working in Diploma level Technical Institutions.
The Federation which is representing the Polytechnic Teachers Associations/ Organisations in the States of Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Chandigarh, Chattisgarh, Daman & Diu, Delhi, Goa, Gujarat, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir, Karnataka, Kerala, Madhya Pradesh, Pondicherry, Punjab, Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu, Uttar Predesh and West Bengal has presented their proposals to the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee in person at New Delhi on 28th May 2009.
The report was submitted by the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee to the Ministry of HRD in July 2009 and is presently with the Integrated Finance Department (IFD) of the Ministry. It is learnt that the Committee has recommended the same set of Pay scales and other benefits to teachers working in Degree and Diploma level institutions; that too on par with UGC Pay Scales. In fact it was the practice during the last two Pay Revisions in 1986 and 1996.
However, there is a grave apprehension in the minds of the Polytechnic faculty that the Ministry is contemplating different set of pay scales for teachers of Diploma level institutions by denying the crucial provision of the scale of Pay Band IV to teachers who complete three (03) years of service as Lecturer (Selection Grade)/ Head of the Department. If this is true, then it is a great blow to the hopes and aspirations of the Polytechnic teachers across the country who have been waiting very patiently and anxiously for the Pay Revision report.
Since the Report is due to be forwarded to the AICTE for Notification any moment now, the Federation requests the Hon’ble Minister of State for HRD to consider the above grievance and to kindly intervene in the matter immediately so that the Polytechnic teachers are not put to further disappointment.
Thanking you,
Yours Sincerely,
Copy to (N Chandra Shekhar)
1. Sri R.P. Agrawal, IAS General Secretary, AIFPTO
Secretary, MHRD, Govt. of India
2. Sri Ashok Thakur, IAS Addl. Secretary, MHRD, Govt. Of India
3. Ms. Pratima Dikshit
Director (TC), MHRD, Govt.of India
Mr.Alluram,-----pagal to nahin hay--- take matter seriously
Mr.Alluram,-----pagal to nahin hay--- take matter seriously
Thanks to AIFPTO for posting the representation submitted to the MoS. But please let us know the latest position.
Anyway we thank you for great efort put in by the AIFPTO office bearers and Sh N Chandreshekhar.
thanks
I firmly believe there is a flip side to all happenings, good or bad. We must now make AIFPTO stronger. Though money is not an issue, but lets face it, No association can work without adequate funds.So I request AIFPTO to formulate an all India policy for mobilising an annual subscription.
Dr Allah has pointed a very valid point.AIFPTO to prescribe an annual subscription.We are all with AIFPTO. NCS and team , I hope are working round the clock and carefully monitoring the situation as described by Sh Anil Shah.
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI
Repeat this 2000000000000000000000000000000 times so that
we forget PB4 4ever.
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI
A welcme suggestion by Dr Allah!AIFPTO must be as strong as ISTE or such other bodies. Membership and fund raising must be initiated under the leadership of NCS.
DEar Colleagues
The power of UNITY need not be re-iterated here. Lets unite FOREEVER, not only for the present cause but also take up such grievances in future. Here the fresh entrants in the Diploma structure need to mobilise unity and help the AIFPTO grow stronger. AIFPTO is requested to bring all fragments under one Umbrella. Ofcourse with a subscription to be collected by each unit.
I hope we are able to unite in this hour of tension.
NCS has really worked hard.If we get PB4 , it shall primarily be because of his herculean efforts.
NCS shall be our leader.
Dear friends,
Don't get tense. We have to be united and show to everyone that we are all united. Office bearers of all states' Polytechnic teachers' Associations can post your valuable comments ensuring unity and support to the AIFPTO. Please post only serious stuff on this blog and show that we deserve whatever we are desiring for. All the best.
can somebody post information about proposed pay scales of degree engg college teachers?
can somebody post information about proposed pay scales of degree engg college teachers?
AICTE Pay Revision : Notification with in 2-3 days
According to a reliable source, MHRD may notify the AICTE pay revision report for Engineering and Polytechnic Colleges in next week. The preparation work is over on saturday itself. However it is not confirmed that polytechnic teachers will get PB4 or not. Also there is a news of degradation of entry pay scale in polytechnic colleges.
AICTE Pay Revision : Notification with in 2-3 days
According to a reliable source, MHRD may notify the AICTE pay revision report for Engineering and Polytechnic Colleges in next week. The preparation work is over on saturday itself. However it is not confirmed that polytechnic teachers will get PB4 or not. Also there is a news of degradation of entry pay scale in polytechnic colleges.
We are proud of AIFPTO that restlessly and attentively monitoring the matter for common cause.I request Mr N Chandrashekharan to send us or all state representstives,the AIFPTO Bank account number so that we can send him our contributions.Polytechnic teachers need a strond and serious leader like you.We are always with you for strenthening the AIFPTO.
Wish you all the best.
just look at the number of comments on aicte pay. kuch kaam ka kaam karo yaar sub milke bakwas mat karo
Revised notification for IIT is out on Ministry of HRD site. May be now we can expect ours also check www.education.nic.in
IIT PAY SCALES-REVISED NOTIFICATION OUT. VISIT WWW.EDUCATION.NIC.IN
read on
A NATION WIDE STRIKE SHOULD BE DONE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE INACTIVE MHRD & AICTE PEOPLE TO BECOME ACTIVE SO THAT THEY WILL ACT FAST RELATED TO AICTE PAY REVISION FOR ENGG /POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS. UNLESS AND UNTIL WE MAKE A DEMAND THROUGH THIS NATION WIDE STRIKE , REALLY WE WONT GET THE PAY REVISON.
From highly placed sources,denial of PB4 to poly teachers is correct
I agree with Prof.Gururaj. If there is no strike, no pay revision
What is the reason cited for denying PB4 for Polytechnic teachers? Can anyone guesstimate number of Poly teachers?
Please immediately AICTE should announce the 6th pay commission report and it is getting delayed inordinately.
announce immediately.
M. Hari
It is very sad to here PB-4 cancellation
Mr. tgf and others who claim that polytechnic teachers have been denied PB4 should open their source of information.
Else we might be just pessimestic in this efforts.
Let us form a real forum (not in the web world) and pursue the matter if the threat turns out to be real. I feel that there are few wolfs amongst us sheeps who want the PB4 to be denied. We should identify them and reveal their real names and occupation.
Its the time to fasten our belts and prepare for long struggle ahead!
Its good that IIT notification is out, there are a few issues there which appear to be unresolved...and IIT faculty may again initiate the fight.. The AICTE notification should also follow now, as informed by our friends.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US IS....NOT TO FORGET THE HUMILIATING, CONFUSING AND INSULTING MOMENTS WHICH WE HAVE LIVED.... THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN TREATED... THE DELIBERATIONS AND DIALOGUES THAT WE HAVE BEEN SHARING HERE... IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT EVERY ONE IS IN A DISTURBED STATE OF MIND...THE AGONY...THE FEELING OF PUNISHMENT... WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET THIS ..EVEN AFTER GETTING THE REVISED PAY...WE MUST FORM A STRONG AND EFFECTIVE ASSOCIATION..
I AGREE WITH PROF.SANKET, WE SHOULD DEFINIETELY HAVE A STRONG AND EFFECTIVE ASSOCIATION AS IT IS HIGHLY ESSENTIAL.
NOW WE WILL GET THE 6 TH PAY REVISION, AFTER THAT WHAT?
WE SHOULD ALL UNITE TOGETHER FOR ANY THING WHICH MAY BE TO RESOLVE ANYTHING FROM THE GOVT OR AICTE OR ANY REGULATING AUTHORITY WHICH MAY CONTROL THE ENGG/POLY TECHNIC FACULTIES.
ABSOLUTELY.HERE AFTER WE SHOULD UNITE AND FORM A SINGLE UNION WITH STATE AND DISTRICT COMMITTEES.ANOTHER THING IS WE SHOULD DEMAND ONE COMMISSION FOR UGC,AICTE ,IIT,IIM,IISC ,NIIT,POLY ETC ETC PAY REVISION,WHICH SHOULD BE CONSTITUTED ALONG WITH THE COMMISSION FOR CENTRAL GOVT EMPLOYEES.
LET THE BABY COMES OUT.I HAVE A HUMBLE REQUEST TO ALL RESPECTFUL POLY TEACHERS TO WAIT AND SEE.ANY ANOMALY IN YOUR PAY REVISION COLD BE CORRECTED AS YOU HAVE TWO STRONG ORGANISATIONS AND THE HARDWORKING NCS.NOTHING TO WORRY.LET IT COME
I like the approach of Prof. Fucker! Let the baby come out first. We study the proposal carefully to find the anamolies if any, only then can we resort to any agitation or fight with the AICTE.
We have a national level association and leader like NCS!
Sorry it was a repost! so deleted!
any body have latest news regarding AICTE pay scales
any body have latest news regarding AICTE pay scales
any body have latest news regarding AICTE pay scales
Yes, It is being posted on the site, Click above
Lets all rally behind Mr. NCS. We all need to support and cooperate with Sh NCS. As someone earlier has posted, a big March to the MHRD ministry shall have to be planned if things are not ironed out soon.
Thanks to NCS for all the hard work.
Lets all rally behind Mr. NCS. We all need to support and cooperate with Sh NCS. As someone earlier has posted, a big March to the MHRD ministry shall have to be planned if things are not ironed out soon.
Thanks to NCS for all the hard work.
i think the aicte report is being posted on the site ,not able to open.
poly teacher shuold be also applicable for pb4
We have to register our protest through some form of AGITATION. It is so sad that all of us have learnt to live with these humilations
I agree with Prof.Sanket. We should never forget this atitude of the Government towards us. We have to make them understand our unity. Let us not vote for them in the ensuing elections. We have to work against the present Government. We have to canvass against this Government to our friends, well-wishers, students and family members. The 6th Pay is introduced and implemented by the present Government to all employees, except us. What is this?
Has anybody really seen the report for Polytechnic teachers? If so, please post a copy. Everyone is wasting too much of words and time. Please don't forget that some 50 or 100 people are posting comments in this site but some 10000 odd people are looking continuously this site. We should be respectful to our fellow Poly teachers by way of providing right and authentic informations. No need of useless B A W K W A S.
PLEASE POST THE EXCERPTS OF THE REPORT, URGENTLY IF ANYONE HAS GOT IT.
I am also agree with Mr.Sadhu that there is no need to post irrelevant and unauthentic comment to misguide a large no of polytechnic teachers.
You will have good news very soon
You will have good news very soon
dingdong bacwas band karo
"jp says:
16 hours ago
i think the aicte report is being posted on the site ,not able to open."
Dear Prof JP,
Is any such report notified by the MHRD ? I am not able to access the MHRD site at present. If the matter is true, please inform more details...What about the AICTE notification for the Degree Engg Colleges ?
Yesterday i called Ms Dixit, According to her report will be notified very soon but could not told exact time frame.
Nothing on MHRD site right now
I am not able to access the AICTE site www.aicte.ernet.in since yesterday.
No report is out,all re simply playing with ur anxiousities
Dear Professors,
Let us all send mails to the Editors of all newspapers, requesting them to give publicity to our grievances.
Dear NCS
You had advised to keep mum till end of Aug 09. Now what is your opinion?
We have already sent mails to editors of newspapers. But the experience says that the media is interested only in thrilling and breaking news...like agitation, strike..etc..They have not given any publicity. The matter should be forwarded through some politicians, as they have more weightage. Isn't this typical "Kalyug", as the learned, educated and intellectual people are finding themselves totally helpless !!!! They are not able to demand their own rights !!! What we must get since 2006, is getting delayed due to inefficiency of a bunch of mean people sitting in the government...!!!!
I don't think MHRD/AICTE are going to release our pay revision notification any time in the near future. It may still take many weeks if not months. We the teachers of state govt. engineering colleges are no match to the all powerful lobby of the promoters of private engineering colleges, who are quite capable of influencing any decision or non-decision of the AICTE as per their wishes. Nobody seems to be helping us around.
Therefore, we should resign to our fate and wait for some divine intervention and let the things happen on their own rather than posting useless, false and sometimes even derogatory remarks on this hubpage. There is no fun in making fool of each other.
However, I wish good luck and all the best to the whole community of technical teachers of the country.
Each and every day I get very conflicting informations in this hub. One day one person is saying AICTE norms are ready and may be out in a day or two.
Another day some one is saying it may take months.
I think it is really a waste of time to use this hub and I am going to stop using from now onwards. Let AICTE norms come as and when Pratima Dixit thinks so. TATA BUY BUY
Dear Prof.Technical Teacher and Sanket,
Thank you for understanding the role of Politicians who own Self-financing Colleges. We have to make all possible attempts to make the Government implemenent the 6th Pay to us. We will give money to the editors for publishing our news. We should not lose hope and we should stop our attempts in getting this pay. But, our unity is a must.
IAS are really useless person they niether do any thing nor cause to do.They seems thereself to be a intiligent administraters by simply lingering the matter for nothing.They dont imagine our contributions to the society,we make the engineers who actully work in the field for nation building.First of all the IAS raj(british pattern )must be wipeout from the country,for that we must listion and follow BaBa Ramdeo.The Politicians and Ghagh IAS are curse to the nation.
Dear vij
Do not dishearten. Everyone is trying his best so do not blame for wrong information . Atleast we have having some thing on this hub.
huai
I am getting lot of conflicting informations regarding the 6th pay of AICTE. One day one person is saying AICTE norms are ready and may be out in a day or two.
Another day some one is saying it may take months.
Which one is the correct? When AICTE will release their notifications regarding the same? Most of the peoples received the pay except faculties coming under AICTE. I need exact information.
M.Hari
Such confusions are created by Government officials only. They are probably not giving correct information. Earlier, in the beginning of the year, I had expectation that the AICTE notification should follow soon (as UGC had aleardy announced.) And I was not really believing the people who were saying that the notification would be delayed. Today, our hopes and expectations are defeated. The typical government department is ruling thousands of technical teachers. NOW I still have doubts whether the notification can come before the festival (Dipawali) days.
Really the system in our country fails to do justice to teachers. basically we have to raise our voice publicly throughout the country. we lack attitude to ask our rights and we are all dedicated to build our country by teaching young minds. its unfair to us. lets unite together and make ensure that atleast by the next revision it should be done in time. with current inflation and rates its highly impossible to lead a life in urban cities. i appeal to all teachers to unite and demonstrate to the system what we are and how we are treated.
9 months lapsed
AICTE PAY REVISION NOTIFIED ON 19-09-2009.AVAILABLE ON aicte.ernet.in.NO DENIAL OF PB4 FOR POLY TEACHERS.SAME AS UGC.DIFFERENCE IN GRADE PAY ONLY.
unable to open aicte website
is there any other way of opening aicte website ?
Dear Prof. CPR,
Please do not make fool of others. the AICTE website is not functioning since last three days. Though you can feel like living in fool's paradise by thinking that the AICTE is uploading the pay notification on their website.
Rather than sending request letters to the MHRD or the AICTE, which they can very easily slip into their dustbins, as they are under no obligation to respond, I have thought of the next course of action. The RTI Act of GOI can be of immense help to us. I am going to send an RTI application to the MHRD and AICTE seeking information on our pay revision notification. I also request my fellow colleagues to do the same and flood the MHRD and AICTE offices with RTI applications on the same subject. I think it will not be easy for the MHRD and AICTE to brush off so many RTI applications.
Sorry, it was a wrong message i conveyed to u
good idea tech teacher
RTI IS OUR FINAL WEAPON.OUR RTI APPLICATIONS SHOULD INCLUDE REPORT OF MEHTA COMMISSION (ENTIRE),INTER MINISTERIAL COMMITTEE REPORT,REASON FOR INORDINATE DELAY AND EVERY THING RELATING TO OUR PAY REVISION.EVERYBODY SHOULD ASK ATLEAST 5-8 QUESTIONS TO BOTH AICTE AND MHRD.
In the line of tech teaches comment in the blog,I also sent RTI application to AICTE/MHRD for providing me a copy of G Mehta's recommondations.And also asked when it will be implimented.
NKC HAS CALLED ON PRIME MINISTER TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION ON UGC AND AICTE AT THE EARLIEST.NEAREST SOURCES SAY THAT BOTH THE REGULATORY BODIES WILL BE SACKED WITH IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.WHAT NCS SAID EARLIER WAS BECOMING REAL.
aicte pay revision only after assembly polls in three states-Mrs.Pratima Dixit.Director of tech education,govt of india
PAY SCALES AFTER DEEPAWALI
dingdong
kab tak bacwas karte rahoge??
please dont write any wrong news and try to to get authentic
news avout AICTE pay scale
a nation wide indefinite strike is going to be organised by poly technic teachers from oct 03.we invite all tech teachers fom other stream to take part and make it successful
a nation wide indefinite strike is going to be organised by poly technic teachers from oct 03.we invite all tech teachers fom other stream to take part and make it successful
Dear All,
RTI of Govt of India is a very good weapon. It is the best option when compared to our earlier attempts including sending mails to our honorable Prime Minister and letters to newspapers. I request all of our technical teachers to file a RTI application and send it to AICTE.
The next Golden opportunity for all technical teachers is to join the All-India strike to be organizaed by Poly Technic Teachers.Please be united and show our strength to the Congress Government.
Is this announcement in the name of AIFPTO correct ? Do they really mean it ? It should also be displayed on their official website !!! AIFPTO officials, please respond !!!!!
I welcome the idea of sending RTI applications. We have to send RTI applications to Appellate Authority:Shri Ashok Thakur, AS, Room No.122-C, Shastri Bhavan, New Delhi and Ms. Pratima Dixit,Director (TC).
I am going to send my application tomorrow.
AIFPTO may please clarify the comment about the nation wide strike wef 3/10/2009 through its site immedately.
Thanks
Dear Dr.Allah ad Sanket,
You both follow this hubpages very regularly. Please request all our collegues to file an application under Right for Information Act.
Procedure is on for abolishing ugc and aicte. New regulatory body will declare the new scales for technical teachers
DO NOT BELIEVE ANY TYPE OF FALSE CALL IN THE NAME OF ANY ORGANIZATION LIKE ALL INDIA STRIKE OR INDEFINITE STRIKE ,UNLESS IT IS BEING PUBLISHED IN THE CONCERNED WEBSITE OR THROUGH ANY PRESS RELEASE.
I REQUEST PROF SANKET OR RAJ OR AKC TO CONSIDER THE RTI WEAPON SERIOUSLY .
Dear Sir,
NCS
We are eagerly waiting for your responce regarding the national wide agitation for getting release our pay soon.
Dear Honorable Technical Teachers,
We have to admit that we do not have courage in organizing strikes. We will use the Congress Government's Weapon of Right to Information (RTI) Act to give a explanation for the delay in implementing Sixth Pay to us.
Till date, Whether any one of us can able tell for sure in which particular date our pay revision notification will be issued or who is responsible for the delay. Let us use the RTI act to answer this questions.
Dear Sir/Madam,
A breif introduction about the Right to Informatin Act :
An Act to provide for setting out the practical regime of right to information for citizens to secure access to information under the control of public authorities in order to promote transparency and accountability in the working of every public authority.
the rti will affect only the cocerned information officer.Nothing to do with the pay revision delay
mr.ptu, jab tak tum backwas karogay.
Any update on likely notification ? We also await some responce from Prof N C S. It has really become the test of our patience and tolerance. All dates conveyed by govt officials, have been crossed. We continued with "Its high time...high time..high time..." for long time. What Next ?
why mr sibal is behaving like this, i dont know.But he is the most educated ,brilliant,adorable,admirable and stalwart in indian politics.he led the first indian expedition to arctic.first indian minister to go in antartica.an eminent lawyer.got IAS but declined to join ,has been addnl solicit general for two years.and what else is required.we r very lucky to have him as mhrd supremo but unfortunately we failed to present our problms through media or union.
I do not agree with JP. Our problems have been presented very effectively. In fact, Goverdhan Mehta committee was formed for that purpose only, which did a good work. Mr Sibal is well aware of everything, but it is a practice in India to deny the benefits to deserving people. The problems are crystal clear for any one to understand. The solutions are also well-known now. But through this process, they are damaging the system. Many faculty members will leave the teaching jobs, due to such humiliating and insulting treatment, and may join jobs here or abroad. This has been happening in our country. Who are they, sitting in government, to govern the tech teachers to this extent ? This will downgrade the entire academic environment of the country.
Mr.JP has become congress spokesmen
plase wait,Soniya Gandhi is considering the matter
Please be serious in posting your messages and comments..
RTI will help us know the complete picture regarding the delay in 6th Pay implementation. As of now, no-one will know when Technical teachers can able to get the pay. RTI will reveal the correction information. Even if it is to affect one Information Officer (as pointed out by Prof.CPR) the others also will come to his rescue. I have filed application and sent it Ms.Prathima Dixit.
it should be sent to public information officer .not to pratima or anyone else
Ms.Pratima is the information officer for technical education. Instead of just asking her, this RTI application will force her to divulge the exact information.
I humbly request all of our technical teachers to send one RTI application to Ms.Pratima
We have to come together anyhow to produce some result , other wise such mishaps will be continue in the future decision making which will affect us with deep intense,if our unity and organisation will not be in picture and focus
everybody please send rti to pratima asking different questions regarding aicte pay revision mehta commission,interministerial committee etc5-10 questions
everybody please send rti to pratima asking different questions regarding aicte pay revision mehta commission,interministerial committee etc5-10 questions
her office should be loaded with rti applns.convey this to every teacher of your institution 1000 ds of applns should reach her office by coming week
Dear All,
I have prepared the following draft of the RTI application to be sent to the MHRD in connection with the AICTE pay revision report, assuming that the same is still lying with the MHRD. You are requested to suggest any additions, alterations or modifications in the same so as to make it more effective. I request all of my fellow Technical Teachers to kindly send this RTI application to the MHRD to get atleast some authenticated information on our pay revision report.
To
Ms. Pratima Dixit
Public Information Officer
Director (TC)
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Shastri Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 115
Ph: 23386561
Fax: 23381355
E-mail: p.dikshit.edu@nic.in
Dear Madam
It has been more than a year since the report of Sixth Pay Commission was announced by the Government. The same has been implemented for each and every category of govt. employees except for the teachers of the AICTE recognized Colleges of all states of the country. We have not been getting any response from the MHRD or the AICTE with regard to our pay revision despite repeated requests. Hence, because of this inordinate delay on the part of the government, we have been compelled to seek information on the movement of the AICTE pay revision report. Therefore, you are requested to kindly provide the following information under RTI Act – 2005.
1. Copy of the AICTE pay revision report, which is under consideration of the MHRD/AICTE.
2. Copies of the noting sheets, comments of various concerned officers related to the AICTE pay revision report.
3. Any time frame stipulated for the release of the report.
The requisite RTI application fee of Rs. 10/- (Rupees ten only) is attached in the form of payable at par cheque no. __________, dated _____________, drawn on ________ Bank.
Therefore, you are requested to kindly provide the above information with in the stipulated time frame under this act.
Thanking you,
Yours sincerely
Technical Teacher
CC to:
Shri Ashok Thakur, IAS
Appellate Authority
Additional Secretary, Higher Education
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Room No.122-C,
Shastri Bhavan,
New Delhi.
Ph: 23383202
Fax: 23387797
E-mail: athakur.edu@nic.in
dear technical teacher,
your format is correct and i am sending the same to Ms Pratima Dixit.
i request all the technical faculties to follow the same and take serious initiative regarding aicte pay revision.
there is no need to send cheque or draft.paste 10 rupees COURTFEE STAMP at right top of your application.
Dear Professors,
We have to take a demand draft of Rs.10/- and then send the RTI application to Ms.Prathima Dixit.
Please clarify whether we have to take Demand Draft or the Rs.10 court stamp is sufficient
But, it is a wonderful idea. Please send RTI applications
some questions-------does the staff of mhrd are getting revised pay as per sixth pay commission? 2)anybody from the ministry of mhrd are left out from sixth pay revision, if so give details? 3)what is the reason behind inordinate delay of tech teacher pay revision? 4) WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT SPEND FOR THE COMMISSIONS SO FAR FOR THE AICTE PAY REVISION ? GIVE THE DETAILED BILL 5)PROBABLE DATE FOR NOTIFICATION?
THERE IS NO NEED FOR GOING BANK AND TAKING DD.JUST BUY COURTFEE STAMP WORTH RUPEES TEN AND PASTE IT ON YOUR RTI APPLN.OR GO TO GOVERNMENT TREASURY AND PAY RS 10 IN CHALAN IN PARTICULAR HEAD OF ACCOUNT MENT FOR RTI.NO DD OR CHEQUE IS ACCEPTABLE
THERE IS NO NEED FOR GOING BANK AND TAKING DD.JUST BUY COURTFEE STAMP WORTH RUPEES TEN AND PASTE IT ON YOUR RTI APPLN.OR GO TO GOVERNMENT TREASURY AND PAY RS 10 IN CHALAN IN PARTICULAR HEAD OF ACCOUNT MENT FOR RTI.NO DD OR CHEQUE IS ACCEPTABLE
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!
Repeat this 2000000000000000000000000000000 times so that
we forget PB4 4ever.
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT COPY THE SAME ONE FRAMED BY TECHNICAL TEACHER.IT WILL BECOME EASY FOR THEM TO REPLY.ASK VARIABLE QUESTIONS
Excellent work done by RTI. May be we can also seek the original Goverdhan Mehta report. This report pertaining to the Faculty/Scientific Design Staff was published on the HRD website in Feb2009. If this can be published , why is our report of Mehta Committe (in its original format) can be published. Through my sources I have come to know that they (MHRD) are downgrading may of the recommendations of the Govewrdhan Mehta committee for AICTE governed colleges.This is precisely the reason of not publishing this report. This SHOULD ALOS BE A PART OF THE RTI.Please , ALL OF US SHOULD USE THE RTI ROUTE AS PER THE GUIDLINES AND LANGUAGE SUGGESTED BY RTI.
Thanks
in our state of kerala one question from a media regarding antirabies vaccination costs over 8000 rupees to the health ministry .similarly if the teachers alone using this hub send questions regarding aicte pay revision,then the concerned aicte/mhrd officials definitely will release the notification as soon as possible
Just a small correction in line 4-5 of my earlier post. It shud be read as :If this can be published , why can't our report of Mehta Committe (in its original format) be published???
Thanks
ATTACK MHRD WITH RTI.LET ALL OF US UNITE
It may not be a bad idea to file an RTI at the PMO along with MHRD.
Lets all file the RTI.
Thanks
Blank RTI form and basic information about RTI is available at the following site:
http://www.fixindia.org/right_to_information.php
or a simple google search would give u many addresses to downlaod the RTI form.
Please download the same immediately and ACt FAST.GOD BLESS US ALL.
Thanks
NCS please post the latest.
Thanks in anticipation.
demond is at the peak for the teachers like alooram.Country requires 0ne lacs such teachers in next five years.
The RTI procedure is very simple. The RTI application can even be submitted on a plain paper without necessarily requiring any form etc. Moreover the application fee can also be submitted by a payable-at-par cheque. There is no need of going to banks or courts to get the DD or court fee stamps etc.
Therefore, I once again request all the technical teachers of the country to file atleast one RTI application and use this simple tool to extract requisite information from the concerned authorities.
Let's move to Delhi for our6th demand.
Let's have union of Govt. and Selffinance colleges....
KAPIL SIBAL TO INAGURATE LAUNCHING OF NCHER WEBSITE ON OCT 20/2009.UGC AND AICTE WEBSITES DUMPED FOR EVER
The 6th pay commission report is pending without any genuine reason..Why no body is trying to make it fast..why aicte is doing like this...even ugc has published the same...we should protest against it...its our right and the need..
half an hour ago mhrd notified another modification on CFTIs pay revision .They have enough time to modify and modify no time for looking in to our matter.make use of rti.let the mhrd office flooded with rti applications
I re-iterate again:
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!
Repeat this 2000000000000000000000000000000 times so that
we forget PB4 4ever.
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NCS is requested to kindly throw some light on the issue. What is the latest??
Thanks
Most of the Technical College in indaia is the property and Source of income for the Indian politicians, and definately if the 6 pay is implemented then the extra burden will be imposed from the universities as per the norms,amd might be this reason is sufficient for them to delay 6 pay as far as possible , since no arreas will be paid in the private institution
I am reproducing the suggestion made by Dr. Allah regarding disclosing the contents of the Goverdhan Mehta committee for polytechnic faculty.
"Excellent work done by RTI. May be we can also seek the original Goverdhan Mehta report. This report pertaining to the Faculty/Scientific Design Staff was published on the HRD website in Feb2009. If this report (for IIT etc)can be published , why can't our report of Mehta Committe (in its original format) be published? Through my sources I have come to know that they (MHRD) are downgrading many of the recommendations of the Govewrdhan Mehta committee for AICTE governed colleges.This is precisely the reason of not publishing this report. This SHOULD ALSO BE A PART OF THE RTI.Please , ALL OF US SHOULD USE THE RTI ROUTE AS PER THE GUIDLINES AND LANGUAGE SUGGESTED BY RTI.
I suggest and request colleagues to file an RTI for the reasons for not disclosing the contents of the Goverdhan Mehta committee as applicable to us.
Thanks and best wishes to all
Oh GOD !!!! Bless these concerned Government People, with the Wisdom, the Strength, and willingness to announce the AICTE Notification.....
where all our actve leaders have gone? Why have they all stopped posting information, in this hour of great need? We all require their assistance and advice. Pl come and post factual position and guide us. Our Federation office bearers should give information on statements shared by Mr.Crusedor/Dingdong. They have given disturbing information. At lest somebody should clarify.
YOU JUST IMAGINE HOW THE GOVT IS TREATING US.THE WAY THE MINISTER AND MINISTRY BEHAVING TO US.IT IS HIGHLY DEJECTING AND VULNARABLE.SOMEBODY POSTED PREVIOUSLY THAT HE WONT ALLOW HIS CHILDREN TO TECH TEACHING PROFESSION RATHER REARING PIGS.THE POLITICAL AND BEUROCRATIC BASTARDS ARE REALLY PLAYING WITH OUR EMOTIONS.
Prof. NCS AND Prof. R JAIN- Pl come and post some latest position on developments in MHRD regarding our pay revision. What has gone wrong and where. Why is there such delay, when it was accepted to be released soon.
The indefinite strike called by AIFPTO defered as we got assurance from the MOS for HRD smt Purendeswari Devi Garu that everything regarding pay revision and notification by AICTE would be completed by second week of November.The AICTE asked for one and half months for the entire notification work.The minister also took immediate action for deputing 8 employees from DOPT for this purpose.I kindly request the entire teaching fraternity to keep calm till november 15.thank you.
THANK YOU Mr GOUD FOR YOUR VALUABLE INFORMATION.HOPE AICTE WILL DO ITS BEST.KEEP IT UP AIFPTO
GOOD BYE ALL OF YOU.
Dear friends,
Please do not believe some posts in the name of NCS or aifpto or Narsaiah Goud because anyone can post on these names. Kindly contact aifpto@gmail.com for any information or call Mr. Prabir Kumar Ghosh, President or Mr. N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secretary, AIFPTO. The strike call given by someone in the name of AIFPTO is false. AIFPTO is closely following the situation in the MHRD. Don't panic. Let's be united and achieve what we deserve.
N Chandra Shekhar
Dear friends,
The above post in the name of Narsaiah Goud is totally false.
Dear friends,
After the Federation has submitted its representation to the MOS(HRD)on the inclusion of PB4, the same was sent to the officers in MHRD for examination. Presently the issue is under consideration by the MHRD. If the Federation had not involved, the AICTE notification would have been out by now without PB4. Only with the efforts of AIFPTO, the rethinking on PB4 has started in MHRD. The Federation has made it clear to MHRD that without PB4, the Pay scales would not be acceptable to the Polytechnic teachers and we do not hesitate to agitate if any injustice is done in the recommendations. Unity is strength. Let's all be united. Our Motto: All for one. One for all. Good luck.
N Chandra Shekhar
Prof.N Chandra Shekhar,
Bravo,we are proud of you.I want to give massage to all my cooligues from polytechnics in India that:
United we stand and devided we fall.Hence get united and give moral support and appreciation to AIFPTO(NCS)without any doubt.
NCS , we sincerely appreciate your efforts and sincerity.I wish you all the best in your endeavours to get justice to the polytechnic faculty.
Thanks once again.
NCS , we sincerely appreciate your efforts and sincerity.I wish you all the best in your endeavours to get justice to the polytechnic faculty.
Thanks once again.
Thanks AIFPTO FOR UR TIMELY CLARIFICATION. UR INFORMATION HAS PROVIDDED MUCH RELIEF TO OUR MEMBERS. PL KEEP TRACKING MOVEMENTS IN MHRD AND KEEP US INFORMED.
the issue of pb4 for polytechnic is delaying the entire pay revision.how long it takes,god knows
Extremely good work, Prof. N. Chandra Shekhar... It is very good you have been after the issue with AIFPTO. Please make efforts to see that the notification comes out at the earliest. The "Consideration time" of govt is also very long. Sometimes, I feel, that they want some issues to delay the work.....
New Pay scales after deepawali
Dear All,
For which year(2009 or 2010 or 2011 or 2012) deepavali, we will get 6th Pay?
This is a very good question to be asked in the RTI application. I humbly request all the technical faculty to send a application asking for the reason for which we are delayed this 6th Pay. If some of our technical faculty lack courage in sending the application form in their name, I humbly request them to send the application in their relatives names or servants names or some other persons
Dear dingdong
If u r true, from where u got the information?
Lage raho dingdong
Bacwas karte raho
I think somebody is making fool of every body in the disguise of AIFPTO and NCS. The comments postsd on this hubpage can not be taken seriously. If Mr. N Chandrashekhar has got some authentic news he should post it only on the AIFPTO website so that some unscrupulous elements do not mislead the technical teachers community in his name.
Dear ABC,
You are absolutely right. That's why if anyone wishes to have any clarification, they can send email to aifpto@gmail.com
N Chandra Shekhar
Ridiculous!!!
A bunch of people who once were the creamy layer (in merit) of students community are kept out from getting revised pay because of total number of this fraternity is such that it has no potential to dictate the ballot box. The unrevised pay and market rate is such that the single income groups are compelled to curtail some essential items from daily expenses.
Still, Government (MHRD, PMO) neither feels to make any press release appolosising for delay, nor issues any instruction to publish the report without further delay.
Whereas, PM and all other Union and State ministers sound big to announce that most emphasis are being given on higher education and specially technical education. If technical teachers are compelled to fast and no sense of honour and repect is there in the ministry for these people, are they really willing to bring change in tech. education?
WE are also such backboneless that we are believing their lame excuses. we donot have the courage to protest srongly for such deprivation. can't we stop woking completely ang make agitation outside the PM's office or residence unless and until pay revision is declared? Can't we file a case in the Court against Government's anti people working? Can't we appeal to the Human Rights Commission?
We couldn't and we can't, because AIFPTO is practically a dead organisation.
We should be shameful about ourselves and every should spit on himself.
Prof.N Chandra Shekhar,
Bravo,we are proud of you.
Dear all get united and give moral support and appreciation to AIFPTO(NCS)without any doubt.
Prof.N Chandra Shekhar,
Bravo,we are proud of you.
Dear all get united and give moral support and appreciation to AIFPTO(NCS)without any doubt.
we think we are getting more today thats addep silence
Just a word of deep felt thanks for the efforts of Sh. Chandrashekhar and his colleagues.
Keep it up.
we think we are getting more thats why no reaction but deep silence.
jo hota hai ache ke liye hota hai enjoy the neglect by the government , society etc
we think we are getting more thats why no reaction but deep silence.
jo hota hai ache ke liye hota hai enjoy the neglect by the government , society etc
NCS is a very genuine leader. Lets all support him.Kindly post as many posts as we can in support of NCS.
NCS is a very genuine leader. Lets all support him.Kindly post as many posts as we can in support of NCS.
A very move by Sh Sandeep. I too support Sh NCS
NCS is our leader. We are with him
I am also thankful to Mr. Chandrashekhar for fighting for our rights. NCS is GREAT
Dear NCS:
The comments regarding your dedication and meticulous handling of the PB4 issue has been deeply appreciated as is evident from the above posted many comments. I can surely say that , YOu have become the face of the aspirations of the polytechnic faculty.
regards to all
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!
Repeat this 2000000000000000000000000000000 times so that
we forget PB4 4ever.
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are trying to appreciate Sh NCS and you seem to be unconcerned.Probably u are not a teacher. Your name should be ULLURAM and not LALLURAM.
Pl do not try to further antagonise the polytechnic faculty by your irrelevant comments.
I agree with you but other than NCS and other AIFPTO members we all are:
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!
Repeat this 2000000000000000000000000000000 times so that
we forget PB4 4ever.
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can any one inform, why aicte site is not opening?
Let's speculate on the possible reasons of such an inordinate delay:
1.May be adoption of the UGC scales without any modifications (single sentence resolution)is becoming too difficult to draft by the so-called experts of MHRD and AICTE.
2.May be they are working whole-heartedly for an unprecedented hike, so international co-operaton is required and they are trying to win over as many countries they can!
3.May be they are thinking to save money (current austerity wave)and only engineering institutions are eligible for this noble cause!
4.May be they are hoping to give double benefit - sixth and seventh pay together!
5.May be they are worried about the financial health of private engineering college owners as our democratic country is very much concerned about the rich ones!
6.May be there are so many 'ifs' and 'buts' that it is becoming as voluminous as the constitution of India!
7.May be our esteemed minister Kapil Sibal is trying his best to get his name registered in the G book/ Limca book of world records (of inordinate delay)!
8.May be the experts are exploring grounds to cut down salary and therefore a mission might have been sent to the Mars or to any other planet!
9.May be the govt is too tired to work on the pay scale for engineering teachers as it had had to do a lot for others!
10.May be they are preparing a new year bonanza!
What do you think, friends!
NCS IS VERY CUNNINING
NCS IS VERY CUNNINING
RAJESH SAYS LOWDA REASONS
RAJESH SAYS LOWDA REASONS
LALUUUU IS A LOFER
LALUUUU IS A LOFER
LALUUUU IS A LOFER
Mr.aaloram is our leader.
we are proud of mr.Aalooram.In the democratic country like india we should leaders like aalooram.
we are proud of mr.Aalooram.In the democratic country like india we should have leaders like aalooram.
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New pay scales after Deepawali
eesh! Reasons quoted by rajesh need a little acumen to understand! Poor street fellow, that u don't have!
Some black sheep have entered this hub. They are blots on the name of teachers as they reflect themselves in the form of obscene words.So, good bye friends!
announced at last
announced at last
Owner of this hubpage is requested to delete unnecessary comment, PLZ...............
xxxxx
are u kidding??
Bye bye till notification /deepawali
NCS please let us know the latest
announced at last in karnataka
announced at last in karnataka
It seems that some of the people visiting this hubpage are so much mentally disturbed, due to this inordinate delay of notification...that, due to frustration, they write a few statements in an uncontrolled manner !!! Sibal Saab...You should take note of this....You will be held responsible if something goes wrong with these minds...
today,karnataka govt implemented 6th pay scale for ugc facuties
Sibal ji wants the best of both the worlds. Deliver like 'Havard Faculty' but do not expect a comparable renumeration.
Here is a great leader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hail SIBAL
Reply to PPF :Procedure is on for abolishing ugc and aicte. As a first step their offices are turned down and so their servers too.Wait for launch of new website of NCHER (national commission of higher education and research) which is a replacement for UGC-AICTE.
Go to deep sleep till deepawali
Go to deep sleep till deepawali
Teaching profession is said to be a noble profession but it is only in words and the real fact is that teachers especially from Engineering Colleges are not held in high esteem as it is believed.It is hard to digest and many people may not agree with this.The most simple example for this is that,the AICTE regognises industrial experience for the position of Professor inspite well knowing that they are totally away from acdemic activities.Of course nobody is against that and we too appreciate considering the expetise what they have gained in industries is vital for the youngsters.The saddest part of this is that for a person who is involved in teaching for many years and knowing the mentality of students and meeting a plethora of students every year,the AICTE demands a Ph.D from him.What a pity,this clearly shows how teachers are respected.On what basis the experience of a teacher in teaching is inferior.To be frank a teacher can very well understand the difficulties and the problems faced by the students and behind every successful career of a student definitely there will be teacher.Majority of people who come from other area and occupying high poaitions in academic institutions could not perform well instead the situation turn from bad to worse.The experience of a teacher should be atleast treated on par with others and that should be considered for further promotions.getting a Ph.d is always a credit but that should not be the basic criteria to be a Professor,especially when techers have huge experience behind them .I very well know that there will be severe criticism for this particular example,but still that is the truth and I a firm beleiever in TRUTH IS ALWAYS HARD TO DIGEST.At least people from our community should understand that we in in no way inferior to the people who work i industries and by virtue of that they dethrone and deny us many oppurtunities.THIS SHOULD CAHNGE AND TEACHERS MUST BE GIVEN DUE RESPECT AND HONOUR ON PAR WITH OTHERS.
Teaching profession is said to be a noble profession but it is only in words and the real fact is that teachers especially from Engineering Colleges are not held in high esteem as it is believed.It is hard to digest and many people may not agree with this.The most simple example for this is that,the AICTE regognises industrial experience for the position of Professor inspite well knowing that they are totally away from acdemic activities.Of course nobody is against that and we too appreciate considering the expetise what they have gained in industries is vital for the youngsters.The saddest part of this is that for a person who is involved in teaching for many years and knowing the mentality of students and meeting a plethora of students every year,the AICTE demands a Ph.D from him.What a pity,this clearly shows how teachers are respected.On what basis the experience of a teacher in teaching is inferior.To be frank a teacher can very well understand the difficulties and the problems faced by the students and behind every successful career of a student definitely there will be teacher.Majority of people who come from other area and occupying high poaitions in academic institutions could not perform well instead the situation turn from bad to worse.The experience of a teacher should be atleast treated on par with others and that should be considered for further promotions.getting a Ph.d is always a credit but that should not be the basic criteria to be a Professor,especially when techers have huge experience behind them .I very well know that there will be severe criticism for this particular example,but still that is the truth and I a firm beleiever in TRUTH IS ALWAYS HARD TO DIGEST.At least people from our community should understand that we in in no way inferior to the people who work i industries and by virtue of that they dethrone and deny us many oppurtunities.THIS SHOULD CAHNGE AND TEACHERS MUST BE GIVEN DUE RESPECT AND HONOUR ON PAR WITH OTHERS.
Thanks bhu
Thanks bhu
I too feel that , what sri BPUROY hax mentioned is perfect,
I too feel that , what sri BPUROY hax mentioned is perfect,
I too feel that , what sri BPUROY hax mentioned is perfect,
Owner of hubpage is requested to pl delete unwarrented, irrelevant and repeatedly postes comments. Prof. NCS, U should at least post one comment daily on devepments on our pay scales. This wii ease the anxiety of all our members.
thanks bpuroy for your comments
the problem is everybody wants to copy iit/iim with out actually comparing the budget of them and the autonomy and facility they enjoy.
Unfortunate but true
karnataka govt implemented ugc's 6th pay scale to all the degree colleges. same will be applicable for the Engg/poly technic colleges also. thanks to Mr Yediurappa, CM KARNATAKA.
UGC website is UP
Dear prof .raju rao
Could you please elaborate on 'same will be applicable for the Engg/poly technic colleges also' of your previous posting [karnataka govt implemented ugc's 6th pay scale to all the degree colleges. same will be applicable for the Engg/poly technic colleges also. thanks to Mr Yediurappa, CM KARNATAKA]
THE 86 PAGED UGC REGULATIONS CAME TO FORCE ON 23RD SEPTEMBER..ALMOST ALL THE WORK FROM UGC'S PART IS OVER.EXCEPT KERALA AND SOME NORTH EASTERN STAES,IT IS IMPLEMENTED.NOW THE TECH TEACHERS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT.BY THE TIME AICTE NOTIFIES,50 PERCENT OF D.A WILL BE MERGED TO THE BASIC FOR OTHERS
I THINK THE BASTARDS OF AICTE ARE SLEEPING.THEY WILL ONLY WAKE UP AT THEIR MOTHERS FUNERAL.SLUTTY BITCHES BORN TO BASTARDS
LET THEM SLEEP. DONT WAKE THE BASTARDS UP EVEN ON THEIR MOTHERS FUNERAL.IS ANYBODY AWARE OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE LOOSING EVERY MONTH IN TERM OF ALLOWANCES AND INTEREST ON ARREARS?IS ANYBODY AWARE OF THE FRUSTRATION AND DISCONTENT WE ARE HAVING?THE MOTHER FUCKERS OF MHRD/AICTE ARE THE ONLY RESPONSIBLE BEASTS.
callous and shameless people rule the reins Now. They wonder why we fight so much & eagerly wait for these meagre hikes. It's natural as those filthy pigs get hefty bribes and most of them don't even remember their basic pay.
Now the time has come to rape the mhrd/aicte mother and sisters.they are bloody bastards dont understand the emotions of teachers.They bastard fellows have been taught by the ghost not the humen.They are all latkhors just kick then on thier butocks.
In the recently published norms and guidelines for UGC teachers, it has been mentioned that for engineering and technology teachers, norms to be formulated by AICTE shall be applicable. Since the UGC rules and regulations have been published only on 23rd September, it is expected that AICTE will now come out with its salary scheme as well as rules and regulations soon for the engineering teachers. This is logical, since the AICTE structures will be in between the UGC structure and the IIT/NIT structures. Hope for the best. Thanks.
THE DRAFT REGULATIONS WERE PUBLISHED 6 MONTHS BACK.THERE IS NO NEED FOR AICTE TO WAIT FOR THE ORIGINAL.WE CANT HOPE ANYTHING BEST FROM MHRD OR AICTE
I THINK ARJUN BUDDA IS BETTER THAN THIS DEVILS ADVOCATE
No report till deepawali
dingdong
Should we belive your news?
100% true.Highly authentic news
DingDong.
If u r so sure abt ur sources and news I ask you to reveal your full name and the organization u belong to and ur phone numbers. If you dont/cant reveal all the hubbers will assume u r yet one more nasty joke here.
This is the html version of the file http://www.aifpto.org/docus/circ102-aifpto.doc.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl the web.
Circ. No. 102/AIFPTO/2009 Dt. 26-10-2008
Dear friends,
The office bearers of the Federation namely Sri R. Baskar, Vice-President; Sri N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secretary; Sri Y. Narsaiah Goud, Treasurer; and Sri M.L. Rana, Secretary (North Zone) have been to New Delhi from 21st to 24th October 2008 to meet the MHRD and AICTE officials during the Parliament sessions. Sri Rajesh Kadian and Sri Jagbir Chillar, President and General Secretary of Haryana Polytechnic Teachers Association respectively and Sri Rajesh Sonania, President of Rajasthan Polytechnic Teachers Association have also attended the meetings.
On 21st October 2008, we have met Sri R.P. Yadav, Chairman and Dr. K. Narayan Rao, Member Secretary of AICTE at their office and submitted representations for the early constitution of AICTE Pay Review Committee in respect of teachers working in Degree and Diploma level technical Institutions. During our discussions it has come to light that Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee has already been constituted by AICTE to review the Pay scales and Service conditions of teachers working higher level technical institutions, i.e. IITs, IIMs, NITs and IISc. Also, the Member Secretary has informed us that the instructions for constitution of Pay Review Committee in respect of teachers working in Degree and Diploma level technical Institutions have to be issued by Secretary, MHRD.
Immediately we met Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon’ble Minister of State for HRD in her chamber at Shastry Bhavan. We have held discussions with the Hon’ble Minister on various issues like early constitution of AICTE Pay Review Committee, lack of uniform implementation of AICTE norms and guidelines by some states, possible financial assistance by MHRD to the States for implementation of AICTE norms and guidelines, etc and requested for her immediate intervention in the matters. The Honble Minister was very much impressed with our discussion and promised us that she would instruct the concerned authorities on all the matters including the constitution of AICTE Pay Review Committee. The Honble Minister also requested the Federation to submit a proposal to the MHRD on the financial burden that would be incurred on the Central Government for uniform implementation of AICTE norms and guidelines in all states. This is a very positive outcome during the discussions.
On 22nd October 2008, we submitted representation at the office of Shri Arjun Singhji, Hon’ble Minister for HRD. We have made efforts to meet Sri R.P. Agrawal, IAS, Secretary, MHRD on the same day. But due to his busy schedule, we were instructed to meet the Additional Secretary, MHRD who is looking after the Technical Education matters. On the same day, Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon’ble Minister had inquired her officers on AICTE Pay Review Committee in respect of teachers working in Degree and Diploma level technical Institutions.
On 23rd October 2008, we have submitted representation to Ms. Prathima Dikshit, Director, Technical Education, MHRD. She called the Chairman and Member Secretary, AICTE in the presence of Federation office bearers and informed the officers that the Hon’ble Minister has inquired about the AICTE Pay Review Committee in respect of teachers working in Degree and Diploma level technical Institutions. They have informed her that AICTE is presently working on the Pay Revision for teachers working in IITs, IIMs, NITs and IISc. She has promised us that she would do the needful. Later we submitted representation to Sri Ashok Thakur, IAS, Additional Secretary, MHRD and requested for immediate intervention in the matter. The Additional Secretary, MHRD called the Member Secretary, AICTE and inquired about the AICTE Pay Review Committee in respect of teachers working in Degree and Diploma level technical Institutions. Later he informed us that MHRD and AICTE are very keen to redress the various grievances of the Federation at the earliest.
On 24th October 2008, we have once again met Dr. K. Narayan Rao, Member Secretary, AICTE at his office and conveyed to him the proceedings of the Federation during the previous three days. The Member Secretary has appreciated the efforts of the Federation and promised us that AICTE is committed to submit the various reports on Pay Revision in respect of teachers working in IITs, IIMs, NITs, IISc, IIITs, NITTTRs, & Degree and Diploma level Technical Institutions at the earliest.
Our mission to New Delhi has been very successful. All the officers concerned have been very positive and helpful. AIFPTO is very grateful to Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon’ble Minister of State for HRD for her personal intervention in the Federation matters.
What is needed now is constant persuasion in the matter. Sri M.L. Rana, our North Zone Secretary has promised us that from now onwards he would visit the MHRD and AICTE offices very frequently as New Delhi is closer to Chandigarh than to many our members. Members form Haryana also promised us that they would also be in touch with Sri M.L. Rana and would accompany him during his visits to New Delhi.
The photograph taken during the submission of memorandum to Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon’ble Minister of State for HRD is herewith attached. Kindly send suggestions on the course of action to be followed to my email id i.e. rohini64@yahoo.com or aifpto@gmail.com.
Regarding Registration: We have met the Asst. Inspector General of Registrations and Stamps at Hyderabad recently. He has informed us that it is difficult to register the Federation in the name of All India ……, and suggested that it may be changed a little like Federation of All Polytechnic Teachers Associations (or Organisations). He has promised us that the process of registration would be complete by 15th November 2008.
Wishing you all a happy and bright DIWALI,
Yours Sincerely,
N. CHANDRA SHEKHAR
General Secretary, AIFPTO
I HAD POSTED THE ABOVE CIRCULAR OF AIFPTO AND WARM DEEWALI WISHES FROM NCS,ONLY TO REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT ALMOST ONE YEAR HAS BEEN LAPSED SINCE THE BRIBERS OF AICTE AND OFFICIALS OF AIFPTO ASSURED US THAT OUR PAY REVISION REPORT WILL BE PUBLISHED AT THE EARLIEST(para 6).now ding dong is saying that our pay revision comes out after this year's deewali.HOW MANY DEEWALEES STILL REQUIRES,ONLY GOD KNOWS!
FUCKER'S POSTINGS QUESTIONS SEVERAL HIDDEN THINGS.EVEN THE CREDIBILITY OF AIFPTO.WE THE TECHY TEACHERS ARE THE MOST HELPLESS COMMUNITY IN THE UNIVERSE.A NEW ORGANISATION FOR POLY TEACHERS ON NATIONAL LEVEL IS REQUIRED
If U believe me ,thin its fine .If not then its o.k
I REQUEST ALL TEACHERS COMING UNDER VARIOUS STREAMS OF POLY TECHNIC,ENGINEERING,PHARMACY,DENTAL,AYUSH ETC TO THINK SERIOUSLY OVER THE MATTER OF CONSTITUTING A STRONG UNION AT NATIONAL LEVEL.SUGGESTIONS MAY BE PLACED IN THIS HUB OPENLY.
I request all of our technical teachers to work for the defeat of this Congress Government. Please do inform your family members and relatives and well-wishers and friends and students our plight and request all of them not to vote for this government.
Dear Colleagues:
It saddens me to learn about the viiews of some of our colleagues regarding AIFPTO action. With due regards and respects to all, I can surely say that AIFPTO with NCS at its helm , has toiled very hard to work towards a respectable pay scales for us. I do not know NCS and his team personally(neither have I met them at any time), but have 100% confirmed details as to how much Sh NCS and other members have worked in this direction. At the same time I do feel the anguish,pain and humiliation experienced by my colleagues who are , till now, patiently waiting for the new pay scales.I do not blame them for their outbursts. Its only human.
Dear colleagues, I have been frequenting this hub for quite some time and want to reassure you of the committment of NCS and others towards our cause. Well, some may feel that I am batting for AIFPTO but I am simply stating the facts.
I, therefore, request all my respected colleagues to support AIFPTO, strengthen their hands further so that the morale of our leaders is kept high. AS per my information we just need to show a little more patience, may be only a couple of days.May GOD bless us ALL.
Regards and best wishes to ALL.
dr allahji,tell me whom should be blamed?
AIFPTO is a national union and confederation of several state unions.such inordinate delay of deserved pay revision for polytechnic teachers is ideological defeat of the organisation.i have no personal illfeeling towards NCS or other leaders of the organisation.But being a national organisation,it is the failure of leadership in handling the pay revision issue.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN POLYTECHNIC SINCE 13 YEARS.SINCE 13 YEARS IAM GIVING ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE TO THE ORGANISATION.SO, DO YOU THINK THE LEADERS OF ORGANISATION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS?
We should not blame to the office bearers of any organisation. After all they are one of us. We are not paying anything to them so we should not blame them. Actually they are our representatives. We should only strengthen their hands. Everyone should appriciate the efforts put in by AIFPTO. Blaming any one is very easy. My question is that what we people is doing? If some one is putting an effort we should support him. So please if you people can not do any thing, atleast stop blame game.
I don't think AIFPTO or NCS are doing anything with regard to pay notification. Whatever posts are available on this blog in the name of AIFPTO/NCS seem to be totally fake. To tell correct position to the people about the pay revision, NCS was requested to come out with the latest on the AIFPTO website, but The AIFPTO website is also not working since last many days like AICTE.
We have written to PMO, MHRD minister, AICTE, but received no reply. There is utter chaos all around. Is there anyone who can let us know about the current status of the pay notification. Is it still lying with the MHRD or it has progressed to AICTE.
processed report of aicte pay revision for nit to polytechnic submitted by prof.malkhani on 24-9-2009.aicte will notify the same on coming wednesday.teachers of polytechnic were denied pb4 where as all other things similar to ugc with slight increase in grade pay
Dear all,
Prof. Babu has another news now to assuage the hurt teachers or to further humiliate their hurt pride. No one knows from where news are emanating and vanishing without results for the last more than a year. You have seen what has been happening regarding AICTE pay revision notification news. I had suggested we flood Mr. Kapil Sibal residence with our petitions and that will click surely.Draft was alos uploaded. Idea was supported by a few persons only. How many acted, is not known. If we can not even send a request to Mr. Sibal to look into our overdue pay revision issue, then who will go to streets to protest this injustice or take other form of agitation. If we cant do this, we shall get pay revision surely but when AICTE officials get green signal from the Private College owners in a couple of years or more or may be never.
Dear all,
Prof. Babu has another news now to assuage the hurt teachers or to further humiliate their hurt pride. No one knows from where news are emanating and vanishing without results for the last more than a year. You have seen what has been happening regarding AICTE pay revision notification news. I had suggested we flood Mr. Kapil Sibal residence with our petitions and that will click surely.Draft was alos uploaded. Idea was supported by a few persons only. How many acted, is not known. If we can not even send a request to Mr. Sibal to look into our overdue pay revision issue, then who will go to streets to protest this injustice or take other form of agitation. If we cant do this, we shall get pay revision surely but when AICTE officials get green signal from the Private College owners in a couple of years or more or may be never.
prof. babu wts the source of ur news
Sorry, I meant Prof. Banu and not Prof.Babu. in my post a few minutes before.
Dear Prof. aaa and Prof. Banu,
You are requested to kindly do not play with the sentiments of the technical teachers. Please post only if you have any authentic news and kindly divulge the source of news as well.
I fully agree with Mr. R K Jain. I, for sure,know that AIFPTO and its constituent AGOTE in Delhi are struggling for funds.Once again I emphasize that AIFPTO , with its very very limited resources (both Man and money) is doing an excellent job. Tell me how many of us have written(RTI) to MHRD/PMO/AICTE? How many of us have paid any subscription to AIFPTO?? At least in Delhi only 30 to 40% subscription has been collected which amounts to peanuts!!!
We all should infact, laud the commendable work being done by Sh NCS and other AIFPRO members.I reiterate my previous comment about not personally knowing or meeting Sh NCS. But my news about the great effort being done by AIFPTO thru Sh NCS is absolutely authentic. I can go as far as saying that , if we get anything, we would owe the same to Sh NCS and his team!!!
Lets all thank them for the effort,time and energy they are putting in for the benefit of Polytechnic faculty.A hearful gratitude is the least we all can do.
Thanks and regards to all
I too am of the strong opinion that NCS has worked very hard.Had it not been for NCS we would have been pushed to the lowest teaching strata with the denial of PB4.
THANKS NCS
I Appreciate NCS Work with AIFTO , but NC if u are in touch with this hubpage can u give us the recent information
NCS tum sangarsh karo hum tumahare sath hai!!!!
I think NCS is a fairly mature person who does not want to commit anything having understood the working of MHRD/AICTE.
From what I know, NCS is trying hard towards releasing our pay scales.
Blamimg someone is the easiest.Can the blamer(s) suggest an alternative?? Why don't they take up the responsibility of getting our due ??
STOP BLAMIMG AND FORTIFY THE HANDS OF OUR LEADERS : NCS AND TEAM.
STOP!!! STOP!!!! STOP!!! BLAMING AND CONTRIBUTE IN A POSITIVE WAY BY ATLEAST NOT FINDING FAULTS WITH AIFPTO MEMBERS.REMEMBER AIFPTO LEAD BY NCS IS OUR ONLY HOPE.
I also appreciate NCS Work with AIFTO , NCS if u are in touch with this hubpage can u give us the recent information.
Only NCS can help us not be known as LALLURAM!!!
NCS please save us from becoming LALLURAM
It is very heartening to note that most of us (barring a few blacksheeps) are with NCS. Long Live NCS
Thankyou NCS for oursuing our cause
Tomorrow there will be announcements of aicte pay scales, a definite news.
Tomorrow there will be announcements of aicte pay scales, a definite news.
Tomorrow there will be announcements of aicte pay scales, a definite news.
new pay scales after deepawali
TODAY WILL BE HISTORY.
TODAY WILL not BE HISTORY,but only big mistry
Just now I have personally talked to Dr. Pratima dikshit. She said that from their end they have cleared every thing and have instructed the AICTE to announce the scales. so we must contact the AICTE chairman to announce the scles immediately
I too confimed it from Ms. Dixit. Our friends at Delhi should personally approach to AICTE. NCS is requested to co-ordinate this activity through AIFPTO associates.
Dear All,
Please post only authorized news. I request all of you to file RTI applications to Ms.Dixit.
Our friends in Delhi can help in finding out the latest about the notification. Please provide the updates.
Sir,
RTI is the best weapon. I too request all of our technical teachers to file applications under Right for Information Act. It is only a matter of five minutes to take a printout of the RTI application and Rs.10/- for the cost of application and the postal fee.
Please file one application. Please.
Something is better than simply blaming ourselves.
Prof SS, please provide the tel no of Smt Pratima Dikshit so that we can also call her. Just to contradict her statement, I contacted AICTE (senior person) and was told that MHRD has still not sent them any file pertaining to the pay scales of the polytechnic faculty. This news about AICTE having not received any file regarding oay scales of Poly faculty IS 100% CORRECT.
LALLURAM
Dear All,
if the news is correct that MHRD has forwarded the pay revision approved by them to AICTE, then we can send petitions to the Chairman AICTE immediately on the same lines as we sent to Mr. Kapil Sibal. You have seen how educated some of our teachers are as they are behaving on hubpage. At least this can be done by all faculty members otherwise rest assured AICTE will take another three months.
Prof.S.S.Mantha,
The Chaiman,
AICTE
New Delhi
Re: Drawing your kind attention to inordinate delay in pay revision of technical teachers
of institutions under AICTE
Sir,
We undestand that MHRD has already forwarded to AICTE, their orders on pay revision for technical teachers. All pay revision issues of several lakhs of Government employees are already settled in September 2008. They got both installments of arrears too. Lakhs of University teachers under UGC got the same in June 2009.
Only a few thousand technical teachers with similar qualifications and responsibilities are denied pay revision for one reason or the other.. You will please not disagree that technical teachers too have needs, feelings, dignity and need speedy pay revision. They also feel like agitating like other sections of society but have always practised restrained and responsible behaviour.
By this petition, we request you to please intervene in the matter to speed up our pay revision. We further request you to also direct your concerned officers to work on priority basis and notify the revised pay scales without any delay like they always do for reasons best known to them but always unclear to us. During 5th Pay Commission revision also , notified by the Govt. on 9th October, 1998 , technical teachers were the last to get after delay of two years by AICTE notification on May 3, 2000.
We hope that compared to Deepawali -2008, the ensuing Deepawali -2009 will bring much delayed joy to Technical Teachers also due to your intervention.
Thanking you ,
Yours truly,
(Signature)
Name____________________ Designation________________________
Residential Address ______________________________________________________
Dear All,
if the news is correct that MHRD has forwarded the pay revision approved by them to AICTE, then we can send petitions to the Chairman AICTE immediately on the same lines as we sent to Mr. Kapil Sibal. You have seen how educated some of our teachers are as they are behaving on hubpage. At least this can be done by all faculty members otherwise rest assured AICTE will take another three months.
Prof.S.S.Mantha,
The Chaiman,
AICTE
New Delhi
Re: Drawing your kind attention to inordinate delay in pay revision of technical teachers
of institutions under AICTE
Sir,
We undestand that MHRD has already forwarded to AICTE, their orders on pay revision for technical teachers. All pay revision issues of several lakhs of Government employees are already settled in September 2008. They got both installments of arrears too. Lakhs of University teachers under UGC got the same in June 2009.
Only a few thousand technical teachers with similar qualifications and responsibilities are denied pay revision for one reason or the other.. You will please not disagree that technical teachers too have needs, feelings, dignity and need speedy pay revision. They also feel like agitating like other sections of society but have always practised restrained and responsible behaviour.
By this petition, we request you to please intervene in the matter to speed up our pay revision. We further request you to also direct your concerned officers to work on priority basis and notify the revised pay scales without any delay like they always do for reasons best known to them but always unclear to us. During 5th Pay Commission revision also , notified by the Govt. on 9th October, 1998 , technical teachers were the last to get after delay of two years by AICTE notification on May 3, 2000.
We hope that compared to Deepawali -2008, the ensuing Deepawali -2009 will bring much delayed joy to Technical Teachers also due to your intervention.
Thanking you ,
Yours truly,
(Signature)
Name____________________ Designation________________________
Residential Address ______________________________________________________
Dear Mr. SS:
Sir, we the polytechnic faculty is being humiliated and are being bracketed as the lowest level of academicians, below the UGC(University teachers of Arts) and even the school teachers. It is astonishing that while being qualified (BE,MTech,PHD in engineering) and the eligibility to move laterally from and to the Engg Degree Colleges, still we are being treated so shabbily.
Never there has been a degradation of polytechnic faculty as compared to the Engg Degree Colleges. Our respected Ministers should please take a note of the following facts:
1) The recruitment rules for Diploma and Degree holders are the same
2) In Delhi, till a few years ago , the UPSC advt for recruitment of lecturers did not specify that the post is for Degree or Degree Engg College.This, obviously because everyone felt that both ought to be treated similarly because of the same/similar minimum educational requirements.
3) Never in the past such a discrimination between Degree Engg College and Diploma Faculty has been made.
4) Today if you take a sample cross section of Diploma and Degree College faculty,
the cross section would look almost look alike in terms of qualifications, potential ,responsibilities and attitude.
5)It is almost blasphamous to treat the Diploma Faculty even below the University teachers of Arts. How on earth can MHRD justify the denial of PB4 to the Diploma faculty ( the Diploma faculty possesing BE,ME and 3 years experience ) as has been given to a University teacher of Social Science,Psychology,Hindi,Maths,Physics etc.
This implies a simple BA is superior to BE and a simple MA is superior to ME. While I do not wish to undermine the importance of Hindi,Social Science etc, but BE and ME being treated as below BA and MA is simply not digestable.
Will Sh Kapil Sibal kindly intervene and ensure that justice is done to the Polytechnic faculty???????
With thanks and regards
SS , please reconfirm the telecon you had with Dr. Pratima Dikshit. We are very upset, please let us know if the news posted by you is true or a prank on our poor souls.
AICTE website not working
SS where r u?? Pl confirm news of having spoken to Dr Dikshit and her assurance thereof.
SS where r u?? Pl confirm news of having spoken to Dr Dikshit and her assurance thereof.
sir it is right time to declare aicte notificaton, beause we are eagrly waiting
With Aicte website ,AIFTO site is also not working from last few days,but only MHRD site is working with no further details and progress about the pay revision
unless, there is some notification in these legal site we really don't h'v any trust on these messages
It might be happen that SS and PP are the same person who had deliver the message about NOC from Pratima Dixit from ss and confirmation from PP , as any one can visit this hub page with different names and different messages
SKL,
You are right. I have not posted that message. I have no such information. Only SS can tell the correct position. Someone is making fool of us.
Prof. Lalluram
The details of Ms Dixit are as under:
Ms. Pratima Dixit
Director (TC)
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Shastri Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 115
Ph: 23386561
Fax: 23381355
E-mail: p.dikshit.edu@nic.in
Sir
This is to confirm u that I have talked to Pratima Dikshit in the morning and she has confirmed that from their end they have cleared everything. It is for AICTE to bring the notification now.
Once again I am also one of u eagerly waiting for scles to be released. If u want to confirm u can talk to he on 011-23386561
Lets be positive and pressurize AICTE chairman to release the notification
Shri SS is kindly requested to reaffirm his claim about his discussion with Dr. Dikshit.
Please do not antagonize us further by posting unsubstantiated news as we are already in a soup.
Thanx prof. SS for clarification
I found no reason to distrust Prof SS
Owner of this hubpage is requested to delete duplicate messages. Same message is appearing 2-3 times, making it difficult to track
Can someone find out from AICTE whether they have received the file from MHRD as stated by Prof SS from Delhi.
Just a suggestion: may I request Prof SS to try to find out from AICTE about the disclosure of Dr. Dixit? This way you can precisely reproduce your conversation with Dr. Dixit and confront AICTE.
Thanks in anticipation
Dr Allah's request can really help us to get to the bottom of this dilemma. I too request SS to pursue the matter with AICTE
Dr Allah is correct, Prof SS can help us as he is in Delhi
I am a Associate Prof of Philosophy with the Delhi University. On a chance visit to this hub, I happen to go thru Sh Allah's comments and comparison with BA/MA viz-a-viz BE/ME. I am astonished to know the comments of the so called' intelligentia' of our country. Do we not understand that 'a needle' and 'a nail' have the same importance?. Can we substitue needle with a nail and vice-versa.
No one really claim that one field is more important than the other. Ideally all disciplines should compliment each other. Thus Dr. Allah is requested to shed his narrow outlook.
But yes I fully agree that the tech teachers should also be traeted at par with the UGC governed teachers. In this context the denial of PB4 to Diploma Engineering teachers
would give rise to a lot of aberations and frustation. Here I would support the Faculty of Diploma Engg Colleges.
Come on Dr Saras, be a sport. Do u really feel that BA(Philosopy) is equivalent to a BE.?
Who are you trying to fool?
May be in the next pay revision you would get double or even more the salary Tech Teachers get. Just because UGC governed teachers are in big number and can bully MHRD, they are able to get PB4 . On the other hand we a re a small group and can therefore have no substantial vote bank. The politicians, with due regards to Sh Arjun Singh and his successor Sh Sibal, may well be advised to find for themselves if they would want a situation like the one stated above where tech teachers would be pushed below the UGC teachers. Long Live Our Neta's
at last......
at last......
at last......
File with aicte
where r NCS/AIFPTO. PL COME AND SHARE THE LATEST INFORMATION.
where r NCS/AIFPTO. PL COME AND SHARE THE LATEST INFORMATION.
Respected teachers,accidently i came to this hub while searching revised scales in net.iam an official working in aicte office of janapath.iam shocked over how beautifully mrs dixit fooling the poor teachers of the country.the aicte office has noting to do with pay revision of technical teachers of the country.pay revision is a political or policy matter of the government and is handled by the hrd ministry.the moment they give the file for notification ,the aicte will do it.if they tell to keep it in abeyance,we will do what they say.the whole thing is with the ministry.last week we got 93 rti applications on pay revision enquiry.we have nothing to say than wait for the notification order from mhrd.the truth is that mhrd has not finalised.
aicte is only a spatula in the hands of MHRD.THAKUR AGARWAL AND CHAUHAN are the trio ruling the education kingdom of india.
Mrs Pratima Dixit is cheating us as she has already inform NCS that the Notification will be accorded from MHRD it self,it will not be sent to AICTE.Now she is cheating the tech teachers fraturnity ,God bless her,Let she celebrate the Deepawalli with sixth pay already declared for her.
when aicte/mhrd notification will be out------any informatio please
Fifteen minutes before,I had a talk to NCS.He inform me that Mrs Pratima Dixit is at US representing India at acadmic issue,she is not here at India presently.She has to return few days before but due to air personnales(Pilots) strike she could not reach in India as yet.She has a schedule to return tonight.NCS is working hard and sincerely.I solute his seriousness, dedication and leadership.I wonder why people like Prof.SS and others are posting fake news.Keep patience,let it some more time but result must be positive(with PB4).Yesterday NCS represented for notification. NCS has also calling meating of some of thier cooligues nearby Delhi to think over countrywide agitation.So rest assured our leader is attentive yet.
Dear MFQ,
It is not Pratima Dixit, it is Ms. D. Purandeswari, MOS HRD who is in US representing the Hon'ble PM in the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) programme. Tomorrow AIFPTO is trying hard to contact the MOS, HRD. Representation already sent to the AIFPTO office bearers to be handed over in person to the Hon'ble Minister, who is our only hope at present. Any happenings will be intimated in due course.
N. Chandra Shekhar,
General Secretary, AIFPTO
Dear NCS
You are requested to visit this hub page regularly Even if u have nothing new to say.
I am working as Professor of Surgery in a Medical College in Assam and drawing AICTE scale since 1996. I have been going through the deliberations published on in this hubpage for quite long time. Every day I have been expecting to find the good news here. But alas! till now it is back to square one. Hope, we along with our esteemed technical teacher friends will get our due soon. Please note the IIT/IIM teachers.
AIFTO site http://www.aifpto.org/ is not working due to Bandwidth Limit Exceeded problem .
NC can u tell us why it is not working
please share the latest news regarding pay scales
delayed justice is denied justice. aicte/mhrd should realise and release the notification soon.
please share the latest news regarding pay scales---------
NCS Sir please update us with the latest.
If you want latest upgradtaion then directly contact to Ms. Pratima Dixit
The details of Ms Dixit are as under:
Ms. Pratima Dixit
Director (TC)
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Shastri Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 115
Ph: 23386561
Fax: 23381355
E-mail: p.dikshit.edu@nic.in
Phone No with std code :011-23386561
Dear all,
Some of us are exhorting MHRD / AICTE for early release of revised pay scales on this hub. MHRD or AICTE officials are not visiting this hub. Logically, technical teachers should agitate. That they cant do for obvious reasons as there are no associations in largest section in private hands or no strong associations like for UGC teachers.
What they should do then? Next logial step is to flood now AICTE Chairman office with letters on the line of draft uploaded by me if you have done this for Mr. Kapil Sibal. Please point out if this logic is weak and suggest alternative action. Only doing the most damned and easiest things like waiting, frustrating, alleging each other, passing unparliamentary remarks against other teachers unbecoming of a teacher, will not help, sirs. Do some thing concrete.
Whether can we file a PIL ? will this is a solution for our pay?
Public Interest Litigation means litigation for the protection of public interest. It is litigation introduced not by the aggrieved party but by the court itself or by any other private party. It is not necessary that the person who is the victim of the violation of his right should personally approach the court. Public Interest Litigation is the power given to the public by courts through judicial activism.
We can ask our family members to file the Public Interest Litigation against AICTE or MHRD. We will have to consult leading lawyers in this issue.
NCS please camp in Delhi or else be prepared to cry for life.????Please fly down to Delhi and stay put till the file is cleared to our satisfaction.This is my humble honest and genuine request. I know that the situation is such that your presence in Delhi immediately shall ensure that no harm is done to us.
Please take my request very very seriously. Tomorrow may be too late!!!!
Yes NCS Sir, please reach Delhi immediately lest we all may have to repent. PLEASE !!!!!!!!PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!REACH DELHI IMMEDIATELY.SMT PURANDESWARI HAS REACHED DELHI AFTER HER VISIT TO USA.
Dr akc
You are correct, I request him to draft a small & precise letter for AICTE chairman and paste on this hubpage. All of us will send the copy of this.
AIFPTO website is up now, but nothing new on it.
NCS is requested to post update
I am not sure whether PIL work. In Madhya Pradesh UGC teachers were on strike. High court declared this strike illegal on a PIL of a student.
On the matter on pay revision court told that affected parties(teachers) should come to court with writ petition.
We must be cautious before filing any PIL. Ofcourse we can go for a writ.
Till now I have been a passive reader of this hub. From what I understand I can say the following:
1) NCS is actively pursuing the cause of Polytechnic Faculty
2) NCS has been responsible for the meeting with Smt D Purandeswari, the Hon'ble MoS,MHRD
3) NCS is a sincere person
Now what I do not understand is :
1) Why is NCS not coming to Delhi when he knows that the decision making process is its final stages?
2) Why is he taking the risk of staying away from Delhi at this crucial juncture?
Sorry Last post was for Dear Lalluramji
I request all of you to discuss this issue (PIL or Writ) is the good solution for all of us with some leading lawyers
NCS please disclose the latest status. We all are very tense and worried.
Thanks for your efforts. We all are with You. I am from West Bengal. You are the best judge when you need to be in Delhi.We have full faith in you.
Regards
If we seek legal help, our issue will become a hot topic to all media persons. Our honorable HRD Minister will intervene and try to solve our problem.
SOS TO NCS. MATTER MOST URGENT. PULL In ALL YOUR EFFORTS PLEASE
A court case will attract all newspapers towards us. Thus, our problem will be set right. We will get immediate result
Why is AIFPTO website silent? A status report on the site shall alleviate our tension. NCS you are only hope,please take appropriate steps.
Dear Lallu's
Be serious. Support NCS, He is putting his efforts, no matter if he is in Hyderabad or Delhi. If polytechnic community will get PB4 it will be his efforts only. My question is every one wants that NCS should be in Delhi, why? What are we doing for support? We are not giving any kind of financial support to the organization, even not giving morol support to these guys. We are only directing and blaming them. Its a shame for us, If we cannot do any thing, should not blame to whom who is putting his efforts.
PTU I fully agree with you. We all appreciate the hard work done by NCS. NCS has walked many a miles for the benefit os us. Now , the point is why should all his efforts go waste??
It is in this context that , may be some of our members requesting his presence in Delhi. His sincerity has never been in question. Personally I feel he a great person.
May be his presence is really required in Delhi now.
These are just my personal views based on the information gathered thru various sources.
Dear friends,
AIFPTO is sincerely putting its efforts for the Pay Revision of Polytechnic teachers. Some persons in the hub are criticising NCS and AIFPTO office bearers. We are all upset over this. We shall not post anything on this hub from now onwards. Sorry. But our efforts cannot be stopped by such utterances of a few. Good bye.
N. Chandra Shekhar
General Secretary, AIFPTO
One may lodge a writ pitition on the basis of inordinate delay in implementing AICTE pay scales to degree/diploma level institutes.In the writ IR(40%) should be demanded till implementation of AICTE scales both from central and state Govt.In Chhattisgarh during 2004 40 polytechnic teachers lodged a writ petition against state govt forward movement of teachers in 10000-15800 and 12000-18300 scales on the basis of inordinate delay and we got the senior and selection grade scales.I was one of the writ petitioners.
Dear NCS,
A mass community is with you and appreciatin your efforts.Please dont pay attention to the few critics.I thing you are mature enough to avoid such mongster fellows who are good for nothing.
DAYS,WEEKS AND MONTHS ARE VANISHING ONE BY ONE.WHAT TO DO?
Batter is to go and sleep
Draft of letter to Chaieman AICTE
Prof.S.S.Mantha,
The Chaiman,
AICTE
New Delhi
Re: Drawing your kind attention to inordinate delay in pay revision of technical teachers
of aided and unaided institutions under AICTE regulation
Sir,
We undestand that MHRD has already forwarded to AICTE, their orders on pay revision for technical teachers. All pay revision issues of several lakhs of Government employees along with your office teachers and beaurocrats are already settled in September 2008. They got both installments of arrears too. Lakhs of University teachers under UGC got the same in June 2009.
Only a few thousand technical teachers with similar qualifications , responsibilities, needs, feelings, aspirations and dignity are denied pay revision for one reason or the other.
By this petition, we request you to please intervene and direct your concerned officers to work on priority basis and notify the revised pay scales without any delay like they always do for reasons best known to them.
During 5th Pay Commission revision also , notified by the Govt. on 9th October, 1998 , technical teachers got after two years by AICTE notification on May 3, 2000. It is agaisnt all norms of efficenecy and decency towards technical teaching community.
We hope that compared to Deepawali -2008, the ensuing Deepawali -2009 will bring much delayed joy to Technical Teachers also due to your intervention.
Thanking you ,
Yours truly,
(Signature)
Name____________________ Designation________________________
Residential Address ______________________________________________________
Please use correct spellings of " Chairman" in your letter to AICTE as I made typing errors in my draft in earlier post.
Dear Colleagues:
Well the cat is out of the bag!!! The file of Engg Diploma Faculty is ready for the final signature of the MoS. The Diploma Faculty shall be denied PB4 as was the apprehension.It is a sad period of dilemma and frustration for the Diploma Engg Faculty.
At this juncture I would like to think positive in the sense that the file has still not been signed by the MoS.The MoS has left for Hyderabad yesterday and shall return on Monday.The same is likely to be preesented to the MoS for her final approval on Monday the 5th of October,2009. Thus we have to pull up our socks,garner all support from all quarters,accept this finite disappointment but not loose hope. There is always a slip between the cup and the lip.
We hope the MoS would carefully go into the merits and demerits of the decision/recommended of the IAS rulers of the MHRD .
We know the MoS is very busy and hardpressed for time.Thus it is the responsibility of all of us to do whatever one can to enlighten the respected MoS about this grave injustice proposed to be done to the Engg Diploma Faculty.
Besides the above , we should give a representation to the MoS defining clearly the justification of giving PB4 to us.
FOR this, I request all the hub visitors to post the points in support of our genuine demand justifying the same with adequate logic and facts.
For eg. a reader (lect sel grade)with BA/MA who is teaching philosophy in a UGC governed University shall draw much more salary than a lect Sel grade with BE/ME at a Engg Diploma Institute.
This is just a sample point. I request all colleagues to
post such points/issues which can be incorporated in the proposed memorandum to be submitted to the MoS by today 5 pm.
Subsequently I shall try to prepare a final draft and try to ensure the same reaches to the MoS by today late evening.
PLEASE ACT FAST. HURRY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.!!!
WITH BEST WISHES TO ALL
don't cry have a sleep
don't cry have a sleep
Dear Friends,
We are in the process of esatblishing an "All India Engineering College Teacher's Association" to address the needs of Engg college Teachers in the country.
At this point of time we need to take up the issue of announcement of revised AICTE pay scale. This report is presently lying with MHRD and we need to take measures to its implementation immidiately without further delay.Unfortunately we have seen in the recent past that, the problems were addressed only when "voice" is raised by concerned organisation like UGC,IIT,NIT,now Air India Pilots.
YOU ARE ALL REQUESTED TO COORDINATE WITH YOUR STATE ENGG COLLEGE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION LEADERSHIP AND ASK THEM TO SEND A MAIL WITH THEIR VIEW IMMIDIATELY TO aiecta@yahoo.co.
Based on their response we plan an interim measure to address the AICTE scale from our side.
This forum is intended to take up all matters related to ENGG EDUCATION/Faculty problems etc in the future course.
Your cooperation is highly solicited
Contact ALL INDIA ENGG COLLEGE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION (aiecta -WHICH IS IN THE MAKING) state engg colleges unions for taking up the issue of AICTE pay scale revision and other relevant problems related to Engg faculty:
aiecta@yahoo.com
The last thorn in the teachers belly has been put!!! As per mr Shah, things need to be sorted out urgently. Please post relevant points as requested by Mr. Shah.
In the past the Poly scales were always better than UGC. Why this reversal now???
MY DEAREST POLY TEACHERS ,LET THE BABY COME OUT.ANOMALIES COULD BE CLEARED LATER.EVEN IF AICTE PAY REVISION REPORT COMES OUT IT WILL TAKE ANOTHER TWO OR THREE MONTHS FOR THE RESPECTIVE STATE GOVTS TO IMPLIMENT IT.SO KINDLY TRY FOR THE RELEASE OF REPORT .
why net/slet is included for technical courses teachers, instead of that exams like GATE may be better
Der na ho jeay---khin der na ho jaey
If ,what Dr Anil shah says is true then really it is a sad news for poly teachers.Convince MoS that two AICTE notifications of 1986 and 1996 respectively were at par Engg, Colleges Teachers.So this 2006 notification must not be different.Hon. MoS must see that the PB(pay band)equivalent to 8000-13500 must be same for both degree & diploma lvel Institutes with similar grade pay as it was before in two successive AICTE scales,e,1986 & 1996.Similarly,for the 10000-15800 & 12000-18300 scales also
the PB+grade pay must be at par as it was before.If there is a provision of PB4 for Engg.College teachers with certain conditions then the same must be implemented for poly teachers.For the scale 16400-20000(principal polytechnic) the suitable PB with a suitable grade pay must be provided.The above equivalency is in practice in degree/diploma institutes since very long time and any discrimination in any basis will lead us to go to Court of law to seek the justice.Dear friends be united and discuss any good legal councelor(lawer) these matters.Any discrimination of poly teachers from thier legal right will not be tolerated becuse the above pay pattern in both the institutions are in custom an "Custom is a source of Law".
MFQ ,we are with u .tell us what to do
AICTE website is DEAD!!!!!
AICTE website is DEAD!!!!!
Whole AICTE organisation is dead.
Dr Anil shah could you get my point,if yes!please indicate by posting it in this hub,Everybody dont loose heart & mind during this bad time.Try to think the many alternatives.In a working committee, during the AICTE 1986 implementations it was decided that the post of lecturers in polytechnics will be equivalent to lecturers in engineering Colleges,The HOD in poly will be equivalent to Asstt.professor/reader of Engg College and principal was kept equivalent to professor with slightly less in upper limit in the scale.This equivalency must not be deformed in any case.
I think the AICTE Scales without PB4 is useless,Inthe place of AICTE Scale the Sixth pay scales with equivalent to lecturer,senior grade lecturer and selection grade lecturer/HOD and also for principal would be more benificial than so called degraded AICTE scales.Aoid this AICTE scales recommanded by bribers fellows.
XXX if you are really with me please contact a lawer with all my statements posted in the hub.
Dr Anil shah could you get my point,if yes!please indicate by posting it in this hub,Everybody dont loose heart & mind during this bad time.Try to think the many alternatives.In a working committee, during the AICTE 1986 implementations it was decided that the post of lecturers in polytechnics will be equivalent to lecturers in engineering Colleges,The HOD in poly will be equivalent to Asstt.professor/reader of Engg College and principal was kept equivalent to professor with slightly less in upper limit in the scale.This equivalency must not be deformed in any case.
I think the AICTE Scales without PB4 is useless,Inthe place of AICTE Scale the Sixth pay scales with equivalent to lecturer,senior grade lecturer and selection grade lecturer/HOD and also for principal would be more benificial than so called degraded AICTE scales.Aoid this AICTE scales recommanded by bribers fellows.
XXX if you are really with me please contact a lawer with all my statements posted in the hub.
the email given aiecta@yahoo.com is not working...
this has been posted 12 hours ago..in connection with
the formation of engg college forum at the centre..
The delay in implementing AICTE pay scales will affect only to the people working in private un-aided engg colleges. Govt college teachers will get Arrears since Jan. 2006. This will be in terms of huge sums. Any body is thinking about poor teachers in private colleges? We have to exclude the govt teachers from the agitation. As per the norms private college teachers are also entitled for all types benefits. How many are benefitted? Kindly think of having a control over private managements, who have become white elephants these days grabbing money from parents of students and not giving eligible benefits to teachers. In a lifetime of private engg college teacher and govt engg college teacher, the difference of these benefits will be minimum of one and half times less to private teacher. Govt has to set norms to control private colleges in respect of pay revision and pay fixation, da, arrears etc.
what MFQ is suggesting is worth considerable.
If PB4 is refused as feared,a new problem will arise for senior polytechnic college teachers especially for those working in states like TAMIL NADU. As they are getting AICTE scales since 1986,they will get stagnated at 39100 in the pay band of 15600-39100 with AGP of 8000 when the pay scales are implemented
Till monday ,no response from any side being holidays.SO to sleep.Bye bye------------------
MANTHA PROMISED TO NOTIFY PAY SCALES ON 7-10-09.
Jungle Raaj !! If someone makes a film on this issue of AICTE notification...it will be superhit!!! Are you listening, .. Karan Johar ??
Dear friends, Urgent Message.
We have email ids of some Associations. Please furnish the email ids of all respective state Polytechnic Teachers' Associations. A letter will be sent to the emails. Please treat this as most urgent.
N. Chandra Shekhar
General Secretary, AIFPTO
There is no such state association working in Chhattisgarh state. You can send a letter or massage in E-mail:polyjanjgir@rediffmail.com for this state.Mr S D Barman is Secretary,AIFPTO from this state.His mob. No: is 9425501272
GOA state association
Employees Association
Contact Person
President
Address
Government Polytechnic Employees Association,
Government Polytechnic,
Altinho, Panaji-Goa 403001
Telephone No
2225973
Fax
2432667
E-Mail ID
dgpp@sancharnet.in
AIFPTO pl send emails to all stated below:
1)Government Polytechnic, Mumbai
Principal : Mr. D.P.Nathe
gpmumbai@gpmumbai.org.in
dpnathemumbai@yahoo.com
www.gpmumbai.org.in
2)Government Polytechnic,Thane
Principal : H. P. Taskar
gpthane@yahoo.co.in
www.gpthane.org.in
3)Government Polytechnic, Sadar, Nagpur.
Principal : Shri. D. R. Nandanwar
principa_ngp@sancharnet.in
principal@gpnagpur.ac.in
www.gpnagpur.ac.in
4)overnment Polytechnic, Ahmednagar
Principal : Shri.S.R.Kerkal
gpnagar@rediffmail.com
gpnagar.ac.in
5) Government Polytechnic, Pune
Principal : Prof D N SHINGADE
contact@msihmct.org,
msihmct@gmail.com
6) Government Polytechnic, Solapur
Principal : Shri. F.A.Khan
gpsolapur@indiatimes.com
for Madhya Pradesh send to
S. V. Polytechnic College,Shyamla Hills-Bhopal 462002,
Ph: 91-755-2660556, 2660558; Fax:91-755-2660558;E-mail: polybpl@svp.nic.in
2) Govt. Polytechnic College
Satna (M.P.)
Pin 485005
Contact No: (07872-257185)
Fax No (07872-257185)
Email: gpcsatna@gmail.com
For Himachal Pradesh:
1)Govt. Polytechnic College Hamirpur
Himachal Pradesh -177030
Email: gpc_hamirpur@yahoo.com
Web Site : http://www.gphamir.com/
Telefax : 01972-258509
2) Principal : Mr. Suneel Verma
Email: suboss2k@gmail.com, Phone:94180-11123
HOD(Eltx.& Comm Engg): Er.Dinesh Sharma
Email:dinesh1969@yahoo.com, Phone: 94180-55249
3) Govt Polytechnic Sundernagar (NEAR HARIPUR COLONY) Himachal Pradesh
Fax: +91-01907-266120, 266752
Email: gpcsnr@hotmail.com
FOr UP:
1) Principal D. D. Singh
Address Government Polytechnic, GT Road, Near Gurudeo Palace, Kanpur 208002, UP, India
Phone 0512-2580086
E-mail principal@gpkanpur.com
principalgpknp@rediffmail.com
2) Principal Government Polytechnic,. Agra By Pass Road (NH-2)] Etawah, (U.P.)] Pin-206001. Phone N0. 05688-262400, Email : gpetw@rediffmail.com
Punjab:
Contact Person
S.Gurcharan Singh
Postal Address
Govt. Polytechnic ,Patiala
Patiala- Rajpura Road
Opp. Truck Union
Patiala-Punjab, INDIA
Phone No
+91-175- 2370158
info@gpcgpatiala.org
Gujarat
1)Government Polytechnic Rajkot.
Info@gprajkot.com
2) GOVERNMENT POLYTECHNIC, GODHRA,Gujarat
E-mail:polygodhra@yahoo.com Telefax:02672-253732
I have found the emails from the net.They are not of the association but at least some of them can respond to you.
GOVERNMENT POLYTECHNIC, Dehradun
E-mail:polydehradun@yahoo.com
01336-01288976
Lagay raho----India lagay raho
bye--bye
2ND OCTOBER IS GONE. STILL THERE IS NOTHING FROM MHRD OR AICTE.
STILL THERE IS NO MEDIA NEWS! NOBODY IS WITH US.
ITS REALLY HORRIBLE - HARD TIME FOR ENGG TEACHERS. THIS GOVERNMENT IS NOT FOR US - THEY ARE FOR THE BRIBERS, BRIBETAKERS AND IAS (WHO WILL ALLOW THE MINISTERS FOR ALL SORTS OF CORRUPTION AND THEY THEMSELVES WILL ENJOY MORE AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES).
I HATE THIS GOVERNMENT.
Again vote for congress ,u will get pay commission very soon
tomorrow will be history.
Earlier I used to wait for the AICTE notification news almost everyday !!!! Now, I feel, with this kind of spineless governmental officers, the announcement may not be there during this year !!!
day after tomorrow will be history
Attention AIFPTO please:Kirodimal Govt. Polytechnic Raigarh, Chhattisgarh can be contacted on this email id: rajeshraigarh@gmail.com
whole voice is silient.whole world is silient.No pay commission update.
It seems that the MHRD and AICTE both are in "Kumbh-Karna Sleep" only for Tech-Teachers Pay Notification.
I don't think committee would be able to present a report in this financial year as tehere are so many confusions about the status of various levels of institutes such as IIT - NIT - ENGG. COLLEGES - POLYTECHNICS - Special Institutes. If there is such a high level of frustration among IIT faculty what will be fate of others
All the messages regarding telephone nos, addresses and email ids for AIFPTO should also be sent aifpto@gmail.com or rohini64@yahoo.com
thanks
I am confused to note that AICTE has not declared yet the pay revision statements for technical teachers of private engg colleges. Due to this delay we are loosing academic environment due to serious depression amongst the teachers. Most importantly, Teachers are going to be verymuch floating and always fond of trying for better salaried jobs. ALL INSTITUTIONS SHOULD MAINTAIN SAME PAY STRUCTURE IN A PARTCULAR STATE AS ALL INSTITUTIONS NEED TO COMPLY AICTE NORMS. THIS SHOULD BE MANDATORY.
AS I THINK IT IS THE RESULT OF UNLAWFUL UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN COLLEGE OWNERS AND A FEW AICTE ADMINISTRATORS ALONG WITH STATE EDUCATION SECRETARIATE> drsnbasu@gmail.com
All the messages regarding telephone nos, addresses and email ids for AIFPTO should also be sent to aifpto@gmail.com or rohini64@yahoo.com
Balkar singh has rigtly pointed out. MHRD did total injustice to NIT teachers. Whats in the fate of degree engg. colleges. GOD knows. May be thats why they are taking so much time to come out. A total chaotic situation is going on in India.
pratima dixit had informed that aicte pay will be notified before this friday at worst case
aiecta@yahoo.com
PAY COMMISSION REPORT OUT.SHORT WHILE AGO.
AIFPTO
Plz post the link,
AIFPTO,
what about PB4 to polytechnic staff
I just talked to NCS, the above post is not from AIFPTO
PAY COMMISSION REPORT OUT.
PAY COMMISSION REPORT OUT.
PAY COMMISSION REPORT OUT.
why are u playing with the sentiments of poor teaching comuinity
what is the latest status
The above post in the name of AIFPTO is fake, I confirmed it from NCS
Better confirm from NCS his cell no is 09848536871
Better confirm from NCS his cell no is 09848536871
Some one is making fool in the name of AIFTO,
I request AIFTO, to send some authentic way to send message with his name. so that no one can misuse it and make confusion
declared at last.....
declared at last.....
declared at last.....
Yes announcements made
Yes announcements made
Yes announcements made
Yes announcements made, I confirmed with pratima
Yes announcements made, I confirmed with pratima
Yes announcements made, I confirmed with pratima
Nothing from me
Nothing from me, No confirmation
Nothing from me, No confirmation
Yes it is confirmed news with pratima
Yes it is confirmed news with pratima
Yes it is confirmed news with pratima
Now only owner of this hub page can save this hub page by editing, everyone is playing on this hub, must find a way to overcome this problem
Signs of frustations!!!
aicte pay revision report out.confirmed news.
Hi Fake Allah, Ncs and others
Stop posting false/fake information. It shows that you people are not teachers.
revised aicte pay scales notified
Dear friends,
On 2rd October, Sri Y. Narsaiah Goud, Treasurer, AIFPTO contacted the Hon'ble Minister at Hyderabad. He was informed that the issue is already under examination of MHRD and if something is serious, then she asked the Federation to send FAX or email. The email was sent to her office immediately by Sri N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secreatry, AIFPTO. This letter was handed over to the Hon'ble Minister by her PA on 3rd October at New Delhi.
Meanwhile, the Federation has decided to intensify its struggle and decided to send representations to all MHRD officials by the States Associations on 5th October. The letter was sent by email to all the States Associations.
The Federation thanks the respective State Polytechnic Teachers' Associations for immediately responding to the request of the Federation and sending FAXes to the Hon'ble MOS for HRD, Secretary, Addl. Secertary, & Director(TC). As per the information received, the states of AP, Delhi, Chandigarh, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, J & K, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Puducherry, Rajasthan and Tamil Nadu
have sent the FAX letters. The Federation representatives which include AGOTE office bearers have appraised the issue to the PS to MOS, HRD. The PS will have discussions with Secretary, MHRD tomorrow on the issue. Let us hope for the best. Please do no post any fake or wrong news on this hub. It will hurt the sentiments of the Polytechnic teachers across the country.
Thank you,
Yours Sincerely,
N Chandra Shekhar
General Secretary, AIFPTO
Previous posting in my name is not mine
It would have been better for polytecnhic teachers to become lecturers of Hindi or Sociology in colleges under UGC in order to save earlier heavy investment and to get PB4 now!
I too accept the comment
I too accept the comment
I too accept the comment
It is a game plan. Technical teachers pay scales are totally controlled by private managements. Wait and watch. We will get one fine day.Our voice is not reaching the concened authorities.
Teacher is a teacher irrespective of the students he is teaching. S/He performs the same duties within the constraints given to oneself. The pay and emoluments should be same for the same post irrespective of posting.
I too agree with lofar statement, It will be foolish to equate polytechniq teachers with engineering teachers and faculty at IIT's and IISC's, and give the same salaries. If it so then we have to similar salaries to even highschool teachers who work more the the engg or polytechniq teachers.
I too agree with lofar statement, It will be foolish to equate polytechniq teachers with engineering teachers and faculty at IIT's and IISC's, and give the same salaries. If it so then we have to similar salaries to even highschool teachers who work more the the engg or polytechniq teachers.
to lofer
Are U mad? what you said earlier is correct
TODAY WILL BE HISTORY
User of this hubpages must stop talking non sense about each other, UGC teachers irrespective of their branch or faculty are getting PB4. My question is why we are comparing the job profile of engg. graduates and polytechnic diplome holders to compare the salaries of their teachers. The qualifications of polytechnic teachers are same like us (i.e. B.E./M.E./PhD). If you go thru the syllabus, it is almost same. Teaching hours are same. Administrative duties are more than us as there are only 7-8 teachers in one department. Only difference is that they have to impart more practical education and we are more oriented towards research.
We must note one more thing, we are getting cream of student community and probably polytechnic teachers are getting last part of it. So in my opinion their jobs are more hard than us.
Should the polytechnic teachers made victim of the job profile of their passout???
Dear engineering teachers, polytechnic teachers are not inferior than us. We should respect them and their job.
Lofer you are incorrect
The entry qualification of polytechnic teachers are B.E., for next promotion they require M.E. like engineering teachers
You are right lofer, but why u want less salary for them, when many more under UGC are getting much more than what they deserve
The rule for posting comments must be changed. Only valid gmail/yahoo account holders must be able to submit comments. This is the practice in many of other blogs. Giving only name is the cause of all fake comments. ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS BLOG/HUB-PAGE ARE YOU HEARING
I found a new hub page on AICTE Pay Revision, the link is
http://hubpages.com/hub/AICTE-Pay-revision
I hope owner of this new hubpage will take care of unwanted/useless comments.
West Bengal Govt is giving interim relief for faculties of It's 6 Govt. Engineering colleges as per govt. order (Order no.588-Edn (T)/10M-36/09 dated 24th September, 2009).
AICTE DRAFT NOTIFICATION ON PAY SCALES WILL BE NOTIFIED TOMORROW.FOLLOWING MUCH PRESSURE FROM MOS,MHRD DECIDED LATE IN THIS EVENING TO PUBLISH DRAFT NOTIFICATION.AN INTERIM RELIEF OF RUPEES FIVE THOUSAND FROM OCTOBER'S SALARY WAS ALSO SANCTIONED.BY DECEMBER END GAZETTE NOTIFICATION WILL COME IN TO FORCE.
Hi Asutosh,
What is source of your information? What is meant by draft notification? Already many reports/reviews/revisions have been done. Why again draft notification? Kindly let us know the source of information.
today evening i called mr kunty,the information officer of aicte to enquire about the delay of notification and he told that the file on pay revision issue is still with the mhrd and they were told to make the aicte website accessible today itself so that mhrd could give the concerned file of draft notification tomorrow.following the mhrd direction the aicte has made the website accessible in the evening
I THINK THE WORDS FROM MR KUNTY IS RELIABLE AS HE IS SITTING IN A RESPONSIBLE CHAIR.
I think the draft notification on pay revision of tech teachers could be due to enormous pressure from the concerned minister and aifpto leaders.as mhrd couldn't finalise the issue,they might have decided to notify the draft and give interim relief till final notification
WHAT Ashutosh says are all bogus news. we are not beggers to take interim relief's. When UGC and other organisations like IIt's and IISC's, NITK's are we are also bound to get which may happen within Deepavali of this year, please be patient.
WHAT Ashutosh says are all bogus news. we are not beggers to take interim relief's. When UGC and other organisations like IIt's and IISC's, NITK's are we are also bound to get which may happen within Deepavali of this year, please be patient.
WHAT Ashutosh says are all bogus news. we are not beggers to take interim relief's. When UGC and other organisations like IIt's and IISC's, NITK's are we are also bound to get which may happen within Deepavali of this year, please be patient.
Why you are all in panic situation? announcements are already made to day at 4 Pm
Why you are all in panic situation? announcements are already made to day at 4 Pm
Today at around 10 am I spoke to Mr. Chandresekar.. Secretary AIFPTO He responded very genuinely...
It seems the file pertaining to Engineering Teachers are with MHRD SECRETARY MR. Aggarwal.
Today there is meeting between the Secretary and PS to MOS
regarding PB4 issue relating to Polytechnic teachers...
He hopes that next week the file would move out of MHRD office
to AICTE.
AICTE
Why you are all in panic situation? announcements are already made to day at 4 Pm
Dear NCS,
Please provide the details of announcement...
Please provide the details of announcement...
what is the latest news regarding pay scales
AICTE COMMITTE IS DEAD
AICTE COMMITTE IS DEAD
AICTE COMMITTE IS DEAD
aicte webside is up.
Any latest news ,please mention.
aicte notification will be relased by 4 pm
Dear Prof.Mary
Is this a authentic news.
Any latest news ,please mention
There is absolutely no authentic news available from any office with regard to aicte pay notification. All posts on this hubpage in this regard are totally false. I do'nt think notification is going to be out this calendar year.
Good luck
AICTE website is UP now,,nothing new
Dear All,
Nothing comes free. Technically speaking, you can not get a degree without studying or giving money. How come you all expect to get the 6th Pay without organizing a nation-wide strike?
We have to wait for a decade to get the 6th Pay without any effort. There is a saying which relates unity and the survival of a social community. In history, no non-unity community existed for long. This example will be very clear when we notice the success of the British People in conquering all of our Indian Kings who do not have unity. So, at least, let us all unite to initiate a nation-wide strike and fight against this injustice rendered to us by both the Indian Politicians and Bureaucrats.
But who will tie the bell on the neck of the cat? Who will call nation wide strike
The patience is reaching to final limits and how is it that engineering teachers are keeping mum on this issue?
Lets come under one Organisation (may be under AIFTO-if all say) set date , time , venue and literally raise our voicy against this unorganised,unstrucured and unwanted government bodies.
Dear Professors,
Let us be patient for another one year. We will fix the day of a nation-wide agitation on 12th October 2010.
Today, I called to Ms. Pratima Dixit. She told that yesterday evening both the reports have been sent to AICTE. There is an executive council in AICTE, where it has to be placed and formally accepted before final notification. The frequency of this executive council meeting is once in a month. If the meeting of this month is over, then we have to wait for the next month's meeting. Then only the report will come out. But, if there is persuence & pressure, then there is a chance of emergency executive council meeting. So, hope for the best.
Dear AB
Thanks for your information. However, the information provided by the undersecretary (Pratapsingh) contradicts your information. According to him, the MHRD notification is not finalized due to some issues (he did not reveal) and the notification may be imminent ( do not know when). Subsequently, I called up MHRD secretary office and I was told that the secretary is on foreign tour (likely to return on monday). I tried to call pratima dixit but in vain.
Noticebly, the information provided by all these authorities is much contradicting. I wonder why this is happening to the teachers. Nobody is ready to reveal the contents of the Goverdan Mehta report at least.
It is high time that the organizations, like AIFPTO, should take up the issue in such a manner to draw the attention of the media ( like black badge protests/press statement etc.done by IIT teachers). I hope Mr. N. C. Chandrashekar, who is all along following the issue, can initiate in this direction.
DEAR TEACHERS,WE ARE HIGHLY UNFORTUNATE FOR BEING DENIED PB4 .THE MEETING OF PS WITH THE GOVT SECRATARY WAS OVER JUST AN HOUR AGO.THE SECRATARY WAS SO ADAMENT WITH HIS STAND OF DENYING PB4 FOR POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS.HOW EVER THE PS ASSURED TO LOOK IN TO OUR MATTER POSITIVELY.AN EMERGENCY EXECUTIVE MEETING IS GOING TO HELD ON NEXT WEEK.FUTURE STEPS TO BE TAKEN WILL BE FRAMED IN THE MEETING .WE ASSURE ALL OF YOU TO KEEP FAITH AND CONTROL.THANK YOU.
Dear AB,
I thought you are a teacher. After seeing your latest posting, I feel you are not. Bad or good people are there every where. Your thinking about polytechnic teachers is very cheap. Try to correct it if you are really a teacher.
THANKS Mr NCS for your postings, giving the recent developements.I request the office bearers to have an appoinment with HRD minister Mr Kabil Sibal to explain the reasons why the polytechnic college teachers should be offered with PB4. Actually in 70s the polytechnic teachers got more pay than college teachers. Now??? The beauracrats do not have any great affection for UGC governed teachers,&IITians too.They got what they deserved, solely because of their fighting skills particularly of AIFUCTO.We should also leave no stone unturned till we get PB4.
Dear Prasad, VNR and others
It is indeed very sad to hear the proposed denial of PB-4 for polytechnic teachers. There is no justification for it.
As rightly pointed by VNR and Prasad, it is high time to start agitation. The AIFPTO which is the only national level federation of polytechnic teachers should take up lead. But, the office bearess of AIFPTO have takem a soft stand ( as is clear from the postings of Sri NCS, secretary, AIFPTO). The office beares of the AIFPTO are persuing the matter very gently. This approach will be in vain unless some publicity/support from media/public is garnerd.
PAY scale OUT in the MHRD website. Please go through the link
A mouse has been conceived by the mountain-like MHRD. For degree engineering college teacher, exactly the identical scale of UGC has been framed. I simple cannot understand where went the Mehta committe report.
N0.23-1/2008-TS.11
Government of India
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Department of Higher Education
Shastri Bhawan, New Deihi.
Dated the 7mOctober, 2009.
The Secretaries deailng with Technical Education of
All StatesIUnion Territorles.
Subject:- Revlslon of pay of teachers in degree level Englneerlng colleges and
other degree level technical lnstitutlons lncludlng Architecture, Town
Planning, Pharmacy and Applied Arts and Crafts Instltutlons etc.
foilowlng the revlslon of pay of Central government employees on
the recomrnendatlons of Sixth Central Pay Cornmlsslon.
Sir,
Iam directed to say that in fulfillment of the constitutional responsibility for
coordination, determination and maintenance of standards in Higher and Technical
Education, the Centrai Government have taken several measures from time to time.
Following the revision of pay of Central Government employees on the recommendations
of the 61h Centrai Pay Commission, the Central Government has revised the pay of
teachen in the UGC system as per this Ministry's letter No. 1-3212006-U.II/U.I(l), dated
31.12.2008(copy enclosed). It has been decided to offer partial financial assistance to
those State Governments who wlsh to adopt and implement the revised pay, at par with
the UGC scales of pay, for the teachers in Degree .level Technical Institutions in the
States, subject to the following terms and conditions:-
(i) The financial assistance wlll be limited oniy for the State/ State aided institutions
where 100% maintenance grant is being met by the State Government;
The Central Government will provide financial assistance to the States which have
opted for the revised pay to the extent of 8090 (eighty percent) pf the addltlonal
M i t u r e i nvolved for m a t i o no f the ~ arvev ision. at ~ a r
(li) . .
with revised pay of
teachers etc. of UGC institutions, p
(iil) The respective State Governments should meet the balance 20% (twenty
percent) requlrement of expenditure for implementing the pay revision of teachers etc.
of degree level technical instltutes in the States during the period from 1.1.2006to
31.3.2010 from their own sources in addition to meeting the entire liability as on
31.12.2005.
(iv) The entire liability on account of the revised pay of teachers etc, of degree level
technical institutes in the States would be taken over by the respectlve State
Governments w.e.f. 1.4.2010.
(v) The Central Government assistance will be restricted to revision of pay (and not
for any other allowances) In respect of oniy those posts which were in existence and had
been filled up as on 1.1.2006.
(vi) The Central Financial Assistance shall be limited to the revised pay as approved
by the Central Government under the scheme and not for any higher pay as may be
glven by the respectlve State Government.
(vll) The Central flnanclal assistance will be subject to the condition that the entlre
scheme of revlsion of pay as well as the conditions to be laid down in this regard by
AlCTE by way of regulation is implemented by the respective State Government as a
composite package.
2. The detailed proposal for implementation of the Scheme on the lines lndlcated
above may kindly be formulated immediately and sent to the Ministry of Human
Resource Development (Department of Higher Educatlon) for examination so that
Central assistance to the extent Indicated above can be sanctioned for the
Implementation of revised scales of pay. A format is enclosed for providing informatlon
to the Ministry.
3. The recelpt of this letter may kindly be acknowledged.
Yours faithfully,
(Pratlma ~lkshlt)
Director
Ph.23386561.
Copy forwarded for informatlon and necessary action to:
1. Acting Member- Secretary, All India Counc~flo r Technical Education (AICTE), 7'h
Floor, Chandralok Bulldlng, lanpath, New Delhi. It is requested that the pay
revlsion of teachers in degree level technical institutions consequent to the 6th
CPC may be notlfled Incorporating the above mentioned pay scales and other
related condltions as approved by the Central Government.
2. All Dlvlsions In the Technical Educatlon Bureau.
(Pratlma Dlkshlt)
Director
Copy for informatlon to: -
1. PS to HRM.
2. PPS to SECRETARY (HE).
3. PS to AS (HE).
4. PS to AS 8 FA.
5. PStOJS(HE).
6. IFD Section.
(PraUma Dlkshit)
Director
No.1-32/2006-U.II/U.I(i)
Government of India
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Department of Higher Education
New Delhi, dated the 31" December, 2008
The Secretary,
University Grants Commission,
Bahadur Shah Zafar Marg,
New Delhi - 110 002.
Subject:- Scheme of revislon of pay of teachers and equivalent cadres in universities
and colleges following the revision of pay scales of Central Government
employees on the recommendations of the Sixth Central Pay Commission.
Sir,
Iam directed to say that the Government of India have decided, after taking into
consideration the recommendations made by the University Grants Commission (UGC)
based on the decisions taken at the meeting of the Commission held on 7-8October
2008,to revise the pay scales of teachers in the Central Universities. The revision of pay
scales of teachers shall be subject to various provisions of the Scheme of revision of pay
scales as contained in this letter, and Regulations to be framed by the UGC in this behalf
in accordance with the Scheme given below. The revised pay scales and other provisions
of the Scheme are as under:-
1. General
(i) There shall be only three designations in respect of teachers in universities and
colleges, namely, Assistant Professors, Associate Professors and hofessors. However,
there shall be no change in the present designation in respect of Library and Physical
Education Personnel at various levels.
(ii) No one shall be eligible to be appo~nted, promoted or designated as Professor,
unless he or she possesses a Ph.D. and satisfies other academic conditions, as laid down
by the University Grants Commission (UGC) from time to time. This shall, however, not
affect those who are already designated as 'Professor'.
(iii) The pay of teachers and equivalent positions in Universities and Colleges shall be
fixed according to their designations in two pay bands of Rs. 15600-39100and Rs.
37400-67000with appropriate "Academic Grade Pay" (AGP in short). Each Pay Band
shall have different stages of Academic Grade Pay which shall ensure that. teachers and
other equivalent cadres covered under this Scheme, subject to other conditions of
eligibility being satisfied, have multiple opportunities for upward movement during their
career.
(iv) Posts of Professors shall be created in under-graduate (UG) colleges as well as in
post-graduate (PG) colleges. The number of posts of Professors in a UG College shall be
equivalent to 10 percent of the number of posts of Associate Professors in that College.
There shall be as many posts of Professors in each PG College as the number of
Departments in that College. No new Departments shall be created in UG or PG Colleges
without prior approval of the UGC.
(v) Up to 10% of the posts of Professors in universities shall be in the higher
Academic Grade Pay of Rs. 12000 with eligibility conditions to be prescribed by the UGC.
(vi) National Eligibility Test (NET) shall be compulsory for appointment at the entry
level of Assistant Professor, subject to the exemptions to the degree of Ph.D. in respect
of those persons obtaining the award through a process of registration, course-work and
external evaluation, as have been/ or may be laid down by the UGC through its
regulations, and so adopted by the University. NET shall not be required for such
Masters' programmes in disciplines for which there is no NET.
2. Revised Pay Scales, Servlce conditions and Career Advancement Scheme
for teachers and equlvalent positions:
The pay structure for different categories of teachers and equivalent positions
shall be as indicated below:-
(a) Assistant Professor/Associate Pr~fessors/Professors in Coiicgcr &
Universities
(i) Persons entering the teaching profession in Universities and Colleges shall be
designate
It appears that MHRD is now moving in the direction of disbursing AICTE/UGC and setting up the proposed NAHER
Hi all,
MHRD has taken so much time to simply forward UGC order to AICTE. MHRD and Kapil Sibal are Great! The only new thing in the order is the signature of GREAT PRATIMA DIXIT!.
Hi Polytechnic Teachers,
Question:Why the delay in notifying the new scales for polytechnique teachers?
Answer: Guess!!!
(see next posting)
Discussion still going on PB-4
Hi all,
Did you guess the answer?
Answer:
Pratima Dixit is searching for an order copy in the MHRD/UGC that had proposed no payband-4 for Selection Grade lectures in COlleges/Univesities (in their very first version of notification of UGC scales).
Next Question;
When polytechnic payscales will be notified?
Answer: Guess!
Never.........
Hi Rajesh,
As and when Pratima Dixit finds the said order copy.
Am I correct?
100% correct
Pratima Dixit should be fully wrapped with golden ornaments for such a GREAT activity. This is possible in INDIA only.
Dear friends,
The above circular is merely a letter from MHRD to secreteries of state for grants. States will send the required informations, but will not implement this till (i)it will be notified by AICTE & (ii)receipt of grants from center. Our wait is not ending here. Wait, Wait and Wait....
This is rediculous !! After so many months of delay. the MHRD has notified the same copy of UGC order, without any change !!! Waste of Time, Big Losses to technical teachers, Extra payments (waste) to the committee members, ......Can India really afford such useless exercise ?
Sanket, you are right. I belive there is some story behind this. I dont know whether we will be able to know it. It has been published several times in newspapers that AICTE rules will be framed according to G.Mehta committe report. In the latest UGC guidelines, it has been stated
"All issues relating to grant of advance increments to teachers engaged in engineering /
technical courses in the university system shall be subject to recommendations of the
Committee separately constituted by the Central Government for pay review of teachers in
technical education."
If this is true, then how can be UGC report same for tech teachers.
kindly send me the recruitment rules for lecturer in arts, commerce, science and Engineering colleges, especially in the non-technical subjects like English, maths , chemestry etc..... i need latest recruitment rules of UGC and AICTE
Kindly refer the following link for UGC recruitment:
Very sad day
Very sad day for technical teachers
cpr says:
3 months ago
Half anhour back i called prof P.N Singh on his mobile phone from a public telephone booth pretending as an NDTV correspondant enquiring about the latest position of MEHTA COMMITTEE.He told that the complete work is over and they have already submitted the iit/iim pay revision report.now the compiling of nit,poly and other institutes coming under aicte are under progress.this will be submitted with in one month.He also said that the three tier and four tier system in institutions other than iit and iim will have the same master scale as recomended by prof.Chadha,with only differences in grade pay .
S Agarwal says:
3 months ago
Dear All
Maharashtra teachers are better than technical teachers who have refused to work till they get their due. All our leaders are busy doing politics among themselves and want a seat in teachers union/forums so that the administration won't ask them to work and take classes. But no one is bothered about the bigger issue of pay scale implementation.
Let us all do one thing - that don't let your association/ union/ forum leader sit and gossip easily in corridors and canteens till they don't raise their voice for the pay scale implementation. If we can't go to Delhi at least we can make the nights of our leaders sleepless by commenting on their inaction and indifference attitude as they have enjoyed power from our vote and now they have failed to raise our common issues.
CPR says:
3 months ago
GREAT EXPECTATIONS ARE OVER.WE ARE COMPLETELY BETRAYED BY THE GOVT BY FORMING VARIOUS COMMISSIONS.THESE COMMISSIONS ARE ONLY TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC ACCOUNT BY THE BABUS AND POLITICIANS.IT IS NOW CLEAR THAT INSTITUTIONS OTHER THAN IIT AND IIM WILL BE HAVING THE PAY SCALES EQUIVALENT TO UGC WITH SLIGHT DIFFERANCE IN GRADE PAY (100 OR 200 RUPEES)KEEP IT UP UPA.KEEP IT UP.
No slight difference in AGP, exactly identical
When polytechnics teachers grades will be declared ?
Dear Polytechnic faculty:
NCS is toiling very hard. Pl post the contact details of ALL
the State Associations of the Polytechnic Faculty.This would immensely help me coordinate and project a strong Polytechnic Movement.So send the details fast.
All the best
Thanks
Dear Polytechnic faculty:
NCS is toiling very hard. Pl post the contact details of ALL
the State Associations of the Polytechnic Faculty.This would immensely help me coordinate and project a strong Polytechnic Movement.So send the details fast.
All the best
Thanks
Dear Polytechnic faculty:
NCS is toiling very hard. Pl post the contact details of ALL
the State Associations of the Polytechnic Faculty.This would immensely help me coordinate and project a strong Polytechnic Movement.So send the details fast.
All the best
Thanks
Dear Polytechnic faculty:
NCS is toiling very hard. Pl post the contact details of ALL
the State Associations of the Polytechnic Faculty.This would immensely help me coordinate and project a strong Polytechnic Movement.So send the details fast.
All the best
Thanks
Our system is sold in the hand of private engineering college owners.When there were few private engineering colleges and more Govt. Engg.Colleges, the pay scales of engg, college teachers were most honourable and far better than UGC teachers.Concequently,the pay scales of polytechnic teachers were at par Engg.Colleges.But due to commercialisation of Higher education and mashroom growth of private engg.college,our system(currupted & briber system) became pitthoo of them for making more money by hook or crook.Now UGC teachers and Engg.college teachers are made at par and polytechnic teachers are degraded.In US and many Europian countris ,the polytechnic Universities are in fuction which impart BE,ME and even PhD degrees,but,in India Polytechnics are being degraded and they bloody fellows want to put it in School level.If polytechnics are Govern under Higher Education Deptt, of Govt of India then why discrimination is being made.Prof M Chandra(can you here all these bastards of MHRD),Adviser,AICTE,issued a letter regarding nomenclature of polytechnics as Polytechnic College (vide his letter no.AICTE/PC(Tech. Board)12/2001,Dated 04.02.2002) then why polytechnics are seem to be school level institute.
Before formation of AICTE(Badluck for tech teachers start with the establishment of this bribers council) the entry level qualification in admission for both poly and Engg.colleges were same.The lower percentages of same common entrance exam. in all the states were admitted in polytechnics after exasting the seats of Engg. colleges.
But these recently born bastard IAS,whose Education deptt. are always a last choice for working,exert thier frustration in poor teachers community.But they must undrstand that teacher like Chanakya(Kautilya) may also Come forward and destroy the kingdom of Nand(briber IAS).
Address of Various Poytechnic teachers in Gujarat
M.S.University of Baroda
Polytechnic
Near University Campus
Vadodara
Government Polytechnic
Amaba wadi Ahmedabad
Government Polytechnic For Girls
Near L.D.College of Engg
Ahmedabad
B.and B.Institute of Technology
Near Mota bazar
Near Iscon Temple Vallabh Vidya nagar Dist Anand
Pin 388120
RCTI
S.G.High way
Near High Court Campus
Ahnedabaad
where is GOVARDHAN MEHTA?mehtaji ka anthim meeting hua kya?
Address
Government Polytechnic, Jamnagar
Valsura road, Bedeshwar, 361009
I KNOW WHAT YOU(GOVARDHAN MEHTA)DID LAST SUMMER.
If you look at AICTE pay revision notification issued by MHRD on 7th Oct09, you can find that MHRD has decided to revise AICTE pay scale and the revision is "PURELY SAME AS THAT OF UGC REVISION made on 31st DEC 08 NOTIFICATION!!!". If this is to be given then why MHRD delayed for 10 months for AICTE scale notification. Is it to cater the needs of management of Pvt engg colleges? (most of them don't pay from 1-1-06).
Then what for "PUBLIC MONEY" spent on "Mehta committee which looked in to AICTE pay revision".
Does this means that MHRD kep quiet for 10 months and now announcing for AICTE governed Technical Institutions without any change from UGC scale including annoucing/issuing the same notification-for "known' and "unknown' reasons"!!!
Net effect of this total exercise is undue delay in implementation for teachers of Engg colleges + saving lots of money to the managements of Pvt engg colleges!!
Its a BIG TRAGEDY of this country!!!
I h'v One query that, whether Polytechnic teacher comes under the respective Circular announcement from MHRD for the Revlslon of pay of teachers in degree level Englneerlng colleges and other degree level technical lnstitutlons dated 7-OCT-2009
Or AICTE wil do some anonymous and unwanted customization in the respective Circular of MHRD for the Polytechnic Teachers
polytech teachers are not covered under mhrd circular dated 7-10-2009
Website of aicte is not working again.......
since the order for GMC was common for iit/ degree / diploma level , we may expect the notification in few days.
one moe good thing that first time tech colleges are also getting 80 % grant as ugc so there will not be any change from central.
dg you are still optimistic!!!!!!!. Bravo dear
dg you are still optimistic!!!!!!!. Bravo dear
where will a selection grade lecturer senior to a recently promoted Assistant professor in engineering be placed in the new system? knowledgeable senior faculties can clarify please
where will a selection grade lecturer senior to a recently promoted Assistant professor in engineering be placed in the new system? knowledgeable senior faculties can clarify please
Attention ZZZ
Career Advancement Scheme promotions are in-situ promotions with in the cadre of Lecturer.That is a promoted AP is still in the Lecturer cadre. The inter-seniority fixed by the selection committee at the time of Direct Recruitment will remain unchanged.This is the norm followed in a reputed govt. engg. college.
any information about poly pay scales ?
where did it all started that pb 4 will be denied
any information about poly pay scales ?
where did it all started that pb 4 will be denied
any information about poly pay scales ?
where did it all started that pb 4 will be denied
I wonder,why Govardhan mehta committee was formed.Please find the truth whether G Mehta is Engineer in his basic degree or he is from applied science side,because,Mr Chaddha was one of the member of Govardhan Mehta Committee and the so called pay scales released for Engg. college teachers at par UGC is a result of consperecy between the members.Because none of them were Engineer.Denial of pay band 4 for poly teachers is a big issue but what about the denial of Govardhan mehta committee's recommondation regarding degree level technical teachers.
The government proposes to establish 1000 polytechnics in the country but on the other hand they want to kill the polytechnic teachers by denying them PB4. This is rediculous. In this period of recession when the students in engg. colleges get 10% placements, the students in polytechnic colleges get more than 90% placements. This is mainly because polytechnics students perform technician jobs better with their practical knowledge. But the Baboos in MHRD don't know the value of technical education and they want to kill it. If this happens then how come meritorious persons will government polytechnics. Instead they prefer pvt. engg. colleges where getting a job is much more easier than getting a one in government polytechnics.
the committee constituted under Mehta,former iisc director was only for the revision of elite institutions.all other things was just an eye wash.mhrd already decided to give ugc package for remaining technical institutions months ago.the interministerial committee and other committees were formed only to lag our revision for private lobby and looting money from public account for aicte babus.this was reported by myself 3 months back,which all of you didn't believe
Dear friends, at last what the government thought of doing to us has happened. UGC scale for technical teachers, what a pity. But we have no other choice. we had talked about strikes but didn't do anything, the press don't care about us.
The central government thought that if they delay implementing for a long time we will be satisfied with what they are giving and in this situation we had to accept it if we show any protest they will form another committee and delay it for few more months.
Dear all technical teachers,
It is clear from the MHRD notification for Technical teachers that they are not bothered the sortage of technical teachers. Atleast, they should stop shedding crocodile tears on it.
Dear Vij:
I have gone thru your above post.Please URGENTLY post the source of the data provided in your post.I am preparing a document for fighting the denial of PB4 for diploma institutes.Please post the same IMMEDIATELY.If the source is authentic and in black and white, our case shall become very strong.
Thanks in anticipation
Dear Vij:
I have gone thru your above post.Please URGENTLY post the source of the data provided in your post.I am preparing a document for fighting the denial of PB4 for diploma institutes.Please post the same IMMEDIATELY.If the source is authentic and in black and white, our case shall become very strong.
Thanks in anticipation
Dear Vij:
I have gone thru your above post.Please URGENTLY post the source of the data provided in your post.I am preparing a document for fighting the denial of PB4 for diploma institutes.Please post the same IMMEDIATELY.If the source is authentic and in black and white, our case shall become very strong.
Thanks in anticipation
I again repeat, if denial of PB4 comes out in diploma level institution's notification then sixth pay for central civil services 2008 will be more benificial than aicte pay scales,in this case being a group A officer we can demand for sixth pay scales equivalent to fifth pay scales.One choose a better scale when more than two scales are in practice.Think over it again for worst case and be prepared.
Dear Anil Shah
If you are thinking to fight, I too have some valid points to share with you. Kindly let me your mail ID.
Nothing going to happen
from which date the new scale will applicable?
AICTE will take atleast 3 months for Notification........
pay scales will be applicable from 2011
Dear Colleagues,
Please see the comparison of central school teacher’s scales shown in the table below, which have been provided sixth pay revision by one step upgrading their existing pay and put them corresponding to the one step upgraded pay band and grade pay. By careful looking into this table one can find that a central school post graduate teacher Gr. I and Vice principal Gr.I will draw more pay than a college teacher under UGC and even an Engg. College teacher under AICTE. MHRD is intended to open 1000 polytechnics in the country by degrading the pay scales of poly teachers even below the schoolteachers. Another table below has been proposed by upgrading their existing scales one step above in same pattern what has been adapted for school teachers. It can be seen that there is no reason of denial of PB4 for Lecturer Selection grade/Head of Department. In this clarification even these teachers need not to spent three years in the existing scales,but,for the convinence of the Govt. the PB4 can never be denied for poly-teachers even after 3 years job in the scales.The law is for all not only for Central Govt. teachers. Hence No discrimination should be their in any case.The proposed scale would be more beneficial than the AICTE without PB4.Think over it Go through the legal advisor,convience the MHRD and get ready for legal fight in future.
Sixth pay Notification for Central Civil Services(Revised Pay) Rules 2008
New Delhi, Dt: 29 th August 2008 Part B Section I & II Page 44-47
Part-II sec,3(i)
THE GAZETTE OF INDIA-EXTRAORDINARY (Ref. Page 47)
Sl.No. Post Present Scales Revised Scales Corresponding Pay Band & Grade Pay Para No. of the Report
Pay Band Grade Pay
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
XVII Teachers
Trained Graduate Teachers Grade .I 7500-12000 8000-13500 PB-2 5400 3.8.22
Post Graduate Teaches Grade II Grade I 7500-120008000-13500 8000-1350010000-15200 PB-3PB-3 54006600
Vice Principal Grade II Grade I 7500-120008000-13500 8000-1350010000-15200 PB-3PB-3 54006600
Principal 10000-15200 12000-16500 PB-3 7600
Education Officer/Asstt.Director of Education 10000-15200 12000-16500 PB-3 7600 3.8.24
Sl.No. Post Present Scales Revised Scales Corresponding Pay Band & Grade Pay Para No. of the Report
Pay Band Grade Pay
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
XVII Teachers
Trained Graduate Teachers Grade .I 7500-12000 8000-13500 PB-2 5400 3.8.22
Post Graduate Teaches Grade II Grade I 7500-120008000-13500 8000-1350010000-15200 PB-3PB-3 54006600
Vice Principal Grade II Grade I 7500-120008000-13500 8000-1350010000-15200 PB-3PB-3 54006600
Principal 10000-15200 12000-16500 PB-3 7600
Education Officer/Asstt.Director of Education 10000-15200 12000-16500 PB-3 7600 3.8.24
Sl.No. Post Present Scales Scales to be upgradedTo one step above Corresponding Pay Band & Grade Pay Remarks
Pay Band Grade Pay
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
For Polytechnic Teachers (Proposed)
Lecturer 8000-275-13500(Group A Entry)PB 3+5400 S16 PB-3 5400
Lecturer Senior Grade 10000-325-15200S19(PB 3+6600) S20 PB-3 6600
Lecturer Selection Grade/Head of Department (Promotion Post) 12000-420-18300Nearly S23(PB 3+7600) S24 PB-4 8700
Principal 16400-500-20000Nearly S26 or S27 (PB4+8900) S27 or S28 PB-4 8900or10000
Proposed Table for Technical Teaches in Diploma Level Institutes Comparable to above Table of School Teachers.
Sl.No. Post Present Scales Scales to be upgradedTo one step above Corresponding Pay Band & Grade Pay Remarks
Pay Band Grade Pay
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
For Polytechnic Teachers (Proposed)
Lecturer 8000-275-13500(Group A Entry)PB 3+5400 S16 PB-3 5400
Lecturer Senior Grade 10000-325-15200S19(PB 3+6600) S20 PB-3 6600
Lecturer Selection Grade/Head of Department (Promotion Post) 12000-420-18300Nearly S23(PB 3+7600) S24 PB-4 8700
Principal 16400-500-20000Nearly S26 or S27 (PB4+8900) S27 or S28 PB-4 8900or10000
Dear Anil Shah
If you are thinking to fight, I too have some valid points to share with you. Kindly let me your mail ID.
My email is rp0160@yahoo.com
Thanks
Dear MFQ
In your posting you have said,
Lecturer Selection Grade/Head of Department (Promotion Post) 12000-420-18300 Nearly S23(PB 3+7600) S24 PB-4 8700,
What does it mean? Kindly clarify the source of information as well.
Dear Rajesh if you are from K.G.Poly Raigarh(C G)
then go through your e-mail.I have attached this matter there.The matter is in tabular form but it could not be attached here as it is.
Anybody who are interested in my above posted material,he can post his e-mail ID in this blog requiesting for the same.
Respected MFQ,
I am very much keen to know about your posted information my E-mail ID is paisakamanahai@gmail.com.
Thanx in anticipation.
/Vinay
Respected MFQ,
I am very much keen to know about your posted information my E-mail ID is paisakamanahai@gmail.com.
Thanx in anticipation.
/Vinay
Respected MFQ,
I am very much keen to know about your posted information my E-mail ID is paisakamanahai@gmail.com.
Thanx in anticipation.
/Vinay
Dear MFQ
I am not from K.G.Poly Raigarh(C G.
I would like to know which is proposed in the statement? Is it in brackets?
Lecturer Selection Grade/Head of Department (Promotion Post) 12000-420-18300 Nearly S23(PB 3+7600) S24 PB-4 8700,
Respected MFQ,
I am very much keen to know about your posted information my E-mail ID is paisakamanahai@gmail.com.
Thanx in anticipation.
/Vinay
Respected MFQ,
I am very much keen to know about your posted information my E-mail ID is paisakamanahai@gmail.com.
Thanx in anticipation.
/Vinay
Respected MFQ,
I am very much keen to know about your posted information my E-mail ID is paisakamanahai@gmail.com.
Thanx in anticipation.
/Vinay
Dear Rajesh,
Lecturer Selection Grade/Head of Department (Promotion Post)
Present scale 12000-420-18300 Nearly S23(PB 3+7600)
One step upgaded scale: S24 PB-4 8700,
Respected MFQ,
I am a Poly lecturer (Sel. Grade + 3 years) so very much concerned sp request the updates about getting PB4. Please add me in your mailing list please. Email id is dav_juan@yahoo.com
BTW i know some of the ISTE elected members who are poly.teachers, are also preparing a strong case are you in touch with any of them?
Thanking you in anticipation.
:Mr. Dave J. N.
Besides PB4 another vital but neglected issue polytechnic college teachers need to encount is the 80% central govt/MHRD/AICTE aid to state govts for the implementation of revised pay scales.In the earlier revisions& even now MHRD refuses to offer 80% aid in the case of poly teachers pay revision.So in 86 and 96 many state goverments did not implement the revised scales and career advancment scheme in toto.
AICTE,a statuatory body formed by an act of parliament controls both degree level and diploma level technical intitutes in India. A state government which runs a polytechnic does not have any power even to increase the students strength in an existing course. Everyone has to knock the doors at AICTE.In this circumstances while MHRD/AICTE provides 80% financial aid to one section it controls ie, degree level institution,it turns blind eyes to another section(diploma).This type of cinderalla treatment shown by AICTE/MHRD is against article 14 of our constitution.Ponder.
Besides PB4 another vital but neglected issue polytechnic college teachers need to encount is the 80% central govt/MHRD/AICTE aid to state govts for the implementation of revised pay scales.In the earlier revisions& even now MHRD refuses to offer 80% aid in the case of poly teachers pay revision.So in 86 and 96 many state goverments did not implement the revised scales and career advancment scheme in toto.
AICTE,a statuatory body formed by an act of parliament controls both degree level and diploma level technical intitutes in India. A state government which runs a polytechnic does not have any power even to increase the students strength in an existing course. Everyone has to knock the doors at AICTE.In this circumstances while MHRD/AICTE provides 80% financial aid to one section it controls ie, degree level institution,it turns blind eyes to another section(diploma).This type of cinderalla treatment shown by AICTE/MHRD is against article 14 of our constitution.Ponder.
Dear MFQ
I am from rajasthan,Kindly mail me the relevant information.
simptech@dataone.in
vidyabhawanpolytechnic@yahoo.com
All engg. degree college teachers please think.
It appeared to me that engg. degree college teachers donot have any association to fight for us. Therefore, will it be a good idea to appear AIFUCTO and develop a separate wing under it to look for the technical teachers. We can do it through our respective college/university teachers union/association. Please think it seriously.
I would prefer to disagree with sspplm. Yes, there is definitely a great need to establish a dynamic association of tech teachers. But, it would not be wise to be part of AIFUCTO. A typical Arts/Commerce teachers can not be equated with the Technical teacher. The efforts in study, the work environment, the teaching learning process....demand in profession...all parameters are totally different. We must try to formulate our strong national association.
Can somewone tell that what is the latest upgradation on AICTE pay revision, since AICTE website is underConstruction from last few days
Dear sspplm, Sanket and other technical teachers,
I too disagree with opinion of ssplm. AIFUTO is university teachers dominated by teachers of Humanities/science. So long as technical teachers want to claim to be superior, it is not adivisable to be under AIFUTO. AIFPTO is polytechnic teachers association which is just born. In my opinion, we need to have strong tecnical teachers association under which covers poltechnics(AIFPTO)/engg. collegs/IITs/NITs. This will have more weightage.
mmmmm
Hi Friends
What is the latest news?
go and sleep
MHRD HAVE ANNOUNCED ON 7/10/2009...Now when AICTE????
All people are silent ? What about poly technic revised pay scale ? some news ? or Hope in festival ?
Dear all,
You want to know when AICTE will notify pay scales for degree level technical teachers. Makke a guess with the following past record for
5th pay commission revision :
Notification date by MHRD
October 9, 2008
Notification date by AICTE
May 3, 2000
6th Pay Commision revision:
Notification date by MHRD
October 7, 2009
Notification by AICTE (likely date)
May 1, 2011
Why you should think AICTE will work faster this time? Have you done some facour to them this time? Awake, flood the AICTE Chairman office with request letters (because none of you can fight for injustice to you) to notify revised scales in 2 weeks. They have to copy paste only.
Will you act? Better act fast. Other wise tell me one reason why they (AICTE) should act fast?
Dear all,
I am sorry for error in dates of circulars in my previous psot please read as under:
October 9, 1998 instead of October 9,2008
You want to know when AICTE will notify pay scales for degree level technical teachers. Makke a guess with the following past record for
5th pay commission revision :
Notification date by MHRD
October 9, 1998
Notification date by AICTE
May 3, 2000
6th Pay Commision revision:
Notification date by MHRD
October 7, 2009
Notification by AICTE (likely date)
May 1, 2011
Why you should think AICTE will work faster this time? Have you done some facour to them this time? Awake, flood the AICTE Chairman office with request letters (because none of you can fight for injustice to you) to notify revised scales in 2 weeks. They have to copy paste only.
Will you act? Better act fast. Other
PL refer this and let me know what is this? Is this connected with Pay scales?
Above link is for MHRD pay revision(Central) for the teacher,AICTE will take the reference of this notification and will create notification for variuos division accordingly .
hello every body, i got this this page while searching regarding 6th pay commission.it made me sad when i saw that no one is worried about pvt engg colleges.i am from west bengal. the scenario of pvt engg colleges are going horrible over here!! most of the colleges are not geting even upto date DA at all.it totally depends upon the management of the college.in spite of having lot of norms and regulations they are making they( the management ) are making all the rules.if anyone found to be not following them they are forced to submit their resignation.even AICTE has doen nothing regarding the security of jobs or verifying whether the colleges are following their standards or not!! within last few months every essential commodities has got a huge hike in price.things are going difficult day by day to maintain the minimum standard of living to us.situation are more worst for the technical assistants.as far as i know AICTE has not mentioned any designation like" lab assistant" or " technical assistant" in their rules and norms though they play a vital role in all the engineering colleges.even the administrative and accounts staffs are also the victims of this .i couldnt understand what AICTE think about this colleges!!! do they feel that only lecturers and professors are required to maintain the standard of an engineering college? when in case of every govt or govt aided engg colleges they have got pay scales for every staff, why they havent mentioned everything clearly to the pvt engg colleges.i request all the people in this section to discuss regarding this matter .i think this is very much required to maintain overall quality of technical education in india.plz join helping hands with us.....waiting for comments from u all....
Majority of the Private colleges in india are the private property of indian political leaders. So they force the goverment education bodies like MHRD,AICTE to be flexible in approving new engineering colleges and there financial assistance are in the hands of the management itself
As u can see that these unwanted political leader play an vital role in delaying the 6 pay implementation upto the level like MHRD and AICT literally It is very easy for them to run the private institutes with there own rules and axioms which will cause and effect only us my friend
Dear friends
It is better to demand aiding of all privte engg. colleges so that all the teacher will get the benifit.
The main cause of all these problems is that tech teachers do not have any association/union to fight for them. And nobody bothers to initiate such. It for this reson I proposed to unite under the banner of AIFUCTO atleast. Better do something rather than crying and reading blogs only.
pvt_coll_sufferers
Do you know that in West Bengal, there is an association for university and college teachers called WBCUTA? Several govt. engg. college teachers are its members?
Respected "To Whom It May Concern"
I'm Paharey,a Lecturer{Electronics& Telecommunication Engineering},working in a Politechnic College more than 200 kilometers away from Kolkata in West Bengal. My chance reading of the foregoing "postings" simply couldn't shock or surprise me! There's a clear pattern in the form of extreme ejaculations of deep recess of minds in the previous postings that some of my Polytechnic colleagues particularly made. The reason is violation of "Rule of Reason and Rationality" by the Power and Authority that may be. I would therefore intentionally adopt a middle course. I would neither close my eyes at the impending perils nor try to display childish bravado towards the decision-making authority. The fault at some level falls on our own shoulders. It is we who couldn't make possibly the role and positin of Polytechnics sufficiently clear to the MHRD. I would put up the following pertinent points for your perusal:
1. The usual norm for implementing any revised pay scale is "from below upward" in any civil society in the world. The order has been unfortunately inverted in regard to the implementation of the revised pay scales for the technical teachers'community engaged in the service of the nation. The usual order should have been the ITIs first and the IITs last having the Polytechnics and the other degree engineering colleges in the middle. But the top IITs and NITs went first leaving the middle Polytechnics in the lurch. Can a captain of a sinking Titanic leave the ship first leaving ordinary passengers to die helplessly? Can a mother fill her stomach first keeping her baby starved? The order of implementation is clearly squeezing the scope for "aam aadmi" approach.
Polytechnic teachers must be ready to go to court of law by collecting the facts and consulting the advocate.
Hi kripamoy Mondal
What are you trying to say?
Sab ke sab dhile pad gaye kya?
or busy with celebrating Diwali?
anyway Happy Diwali to all the hubbers and wish Mata Laxmi be Prassanna on all Poly Teachers and give Subuddhi to all all corrupt babus of aicte to grant them PB4 or else give the corrupt aicte babus more chances of getting caught taking bribes and spend rest of life in Tihar-Gardens (or we call it Jail)!
Dear friends,
On 2rd October, Sri Y. Narsaiah Goud, Treasurer, AIFPTO contacted the Hon'ble Minister at Hyderabad. He was informed that the issue is already under examination of MHRD and if something is serious, then she asked the Federation to send FAX or email. The email was sent to her office immediately by Sri N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secreatry, AIFPTO. This letter was handed over to the Hon'ble Minister by her PA on 3rd October at New Delhi.
Meanwhile, the Federation has decided to intensify its struggle and decided to send representations to all MHRD officials by the States Associations on 5th October. The letter was sent by email to all the States Associations.
The Federation thanks the respective State Polytechnic Teachers' Associations for immediately responding to the request of the Federation and sending FAXes to the Hon'ble MOS for HRD, Secretary, Addl. Secertary, & Director(TC). As per the information received, the states of AP, Delhi, Chandigarh, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, J & K, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Puducherry, Rajasthan and Tamil Nadu
have sent the FAX letters. The Federation representatives which include AGOTE office bearers have appraised the issue to the PS to MOS, HRD. The PS will have discussions with Secretary, MHRD tomorrow on the issue. Let us hope for the best. Please do no post any fake or wrong news on this hub. It will hurt the sentiments of the Polytechnic teachers across the country.
Thank you,
Yours Sincerely,
N Chandra Shekhar
General Secretary, AIFPTO
I know for sure that whatever is stated by NCS is 100% true.
Thanks
Wish all of you a happy Depawali.May Goddess Laxmi bless you with prosperity soon.
Dear friends,
As per the instructions of Sri R.P. Agrawal, Secretary, MHRD, the comparative statement of V Pay Commission recommendations for Central Govt. employees, UGC teachers, Degree level Engg. teachers and Diploma level teachers was submitted today. The officers have positively assured that a positive decision would be taken soon. Let us wait with fond hopes. Wish you all a very HAPPY DIWALI. Let the festival of lights bring light into the lives of all the Polytechnic teachers across the country.
All the best
N Chandra Shekhar
General Secretary, AIFPTO
Dear NCS,
Commendable follow up! Keep it up.
What will be AICTE payscale for a lecturer possessing MBA degree?
very very happy new year and Happy Deepawali to all
poytechnic and Engg.colleges teachers
Dear Technical teachers,
Please share any news you have when AICTE will notify revised 6 PC pay scales for implementation. It will be 1 year 7 months like last time 5th pay commission scales revision if we do not do something and let the private managements prevail upon AICTE bosses.
I am on selection grade from 14/7/2007.May i need three publications for moving to the post of associate professor
Dear MFQ,
You are requested to send me the material at my id rkumar.1970@rediff.com
Some good news for poly teachers. MHRD might clear the file with PB4 for some categories(PRINCIPALS, SelGr LECTURES with Mtech/Ph.D Qaualification)
Mr. AICTE
What is the source of your news,stop posting fake news,because this a crucial time for poly teachers.
AIFPTO,Can you please confirm the news posted by AICTE.
Hi MFQ,
This is from reliable sources. How can you say that it is fake?
Dear AICTE,
Please disclosed your identity.
I am principal in Govt.Polytechnic,Janjgir-Champa,Chhattisgarh,India
What and Where are you.
I know Dr. MFQ. He is Principal of Government Polytechnic at
Janjgir-Champa (CG). Now it is upto Mr. AICTE to reveal his real identity and also the source of his information(?).
If he doesnt do it let us say in 24 or 48 hrs. then we all would request the moderators to use his powers to prevent Mr. AICTE from posting post any further messages which will undermine the spirits of Poly teachers.
Prof. Dave J. N.
Hi Friends,
The information I have posted is from reliable sources. This information, in fact, correlates with previous posting
of AIFPTO in which they have stated that MHRD has saught comparitive statement of 5th pay comission. Since PB-4 is for selection grade lectures, it is obvious that the existing selection grade Selection grade lecturers in poytechnics would get this benifit.
Hi MFQ and Dave,
This hub is a plotform to share some information regarding payscales of technical teachers. What ever information we get is only regarding possibilities (sometime it maybe romour also) until and unless it comes out in black and white. Sometimes it may embrass if we mention the person name who provided the information. Certificates can not be provided for such information, and what is the necessity of revealing identity? How does it help you? I ask, what certificate you have provided for your identities?
It is not fair on your part to set the ultimatum to reveal the identity and to ask paysaviuor to to prevent postings. By the way, I am also a poytechnic teacher who is eagerly waiting for something to come out.
Hi AICTE,
I understand your agony. I never did ask for any certificates, and I would never. But still we all would not want polyteachers to be misled. There are many who are opposed to welfare (PB4 for Sel. Grade Lecturers in the present scenario) of thousands (or more) of Poly teachers. These people are financially strong and influencial who have always corrupted those at AICTE office.
Prof. AICTE, you can see that just prolonging the due scales (I mean PB4 also) is their victory. So we must not allow ourselves to be misled by anyone. I am sure you and all hubbers in this forum agree with this.
Prof. MFQ, your comments please.
Prof. Dave
Please send latest and reliable news for poytechnic teacher revised
aicte pay scale. Now Deepawali festivals are also completed
When it wiil declared?
Dear All,
I believe that AICTE WOULD BE FAIR BY WAY OF GRANTING
PB4 TO POLY TEACHERS. THEY TRULY DESERVE IT
A DEVELOPING COUNTRY LIKE INDIA SHOULD TRY TO GIVE
MORE INCENTIVES TO POLY TEACHERS AND IMPROVE TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND TAKE IT TO THE RURAL AND POOR POPULATION..
EARNESTLY REQUEST ALL PEOPLE CONCERNED TO THINK POSITIVELY..
DENYING PB4 TO POLY TEACHERS IS LIKE MOVING BACKWARD ...
INSTEAD WE SHOULD TRY TO MOVE FORWARD...
Dear All,
I believe that AICTE WOULD BE FAIR BY WAY OF GRANTING
PB4 TO POLY TEACHERS. THEY TRULY DESERVE IT
A DEVELOPING COUNTRY LIKE INDIA SHOULD TRY TO GIVE
MORE INCENTIVES TO POLY TEACHERS AND IMPROVE TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND TAKE IT TO THE RURAL AND POOR POPULATION..
EARNESTLY REQUEST ALL PEOPLE CONCERNED TO THINK POSITIVELY..
DENYING PB4 TO POLY TEACHERS IS LIKE MOVING BACKWARD ...
INSTEAD WE SHOULD TRY TO MOVE FORWARD...
It seems that AICTE is still busy in granting permission to new engineering colleges and the office bearers might have forgotten about pay commission. The excessive delay may be due to the action of CBI enquiry. The objective of AICTE (welfare of technical students, institutes and teachers) now might have changed and the most important task of opening new colleges may be on top priority.
A technical teacher always talks about unity of all excluding him. He always wants to outsource his problems to others. A person who feels that nationwide unity is required; he can start from his own institute for unity. Shortly it will spread in other institutes. Anyway we will get new pay scale at last when AICTE officials will be free and they will not have any other task for a long duration.
Aicte notification after one month(minimum)
Dear all,
Dingdong has informed that AICTE notification will come after one month. It will be great indeed looking to their past record. MHRD cleared on Oct 09,1998 to AICTE and AICTE notified on May 03, 2000 after a gap of one and half year.
Just copy paste of UGC guidelines including fitment table decided already, how much time it should take, is anybody's guess and why it will not happen fast also will be anybody's guess.
NO, NO, NO............
NO, NO, NO............
What is the latest news Mr. AICTE? Any updates?
What is the latest news Mr. AICTE? Any updates?
Dear friends,
On 23rd October 2009, Sri N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secretary, AIFPTO has led a delegation of Polytechnic teachers to meet Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon'ble Minister of State for HRD at her Camp office in Visakhapatnam, AP. A representation was submitted to her stating the need for recommending better pay sclaes for Polytechnic teachers. A comparative statement of V Pay Commission Scales for Central Govt. employees, UGC teachers, Degree Engg. College teachers and Polytechnic teachers was also submitted to her. She had promised that the issue would be discussed with Sri Kapil Sibal, HRM and a meeting would be arranged with the HRM along with AIFPTO office bearers very soon. The Federation thanked the Minister for taking steps to resolve the issue. Let us hope for the better. Federation thanks all the Polytechnic teachers across the country for their resolve and hopes for all types of immediate support.
Yours Sincerely,
N. Chandra Shekhar,
General Secretary, AIFPTO
This is good news for all of us.
Great job done Mr. N Chandra Shekhar and the delegation. I am sure that following the matter till logical end would help us to get PB4.
Mr. NCS if you can, why dont you please camp in Delhi and follow the matter with the minister on day-to-day basis? You can give us daily updates in the evenings and we can decide the future course of action.
We can also give the minister our side of story and about the negative attitude of IAS officers.
I am also agree with Mr. dave's statement above.Mr.NCS must reside at Delhi till resolution of pay issue,We are always with him with all our support of all kinds including expenditures.
yes i also agree with MR.MFQ
WE MUST GO FOR PB-4 AT ANY COST NO LESS THAN UGC
DU COLLEGES ARE EVEN LESS EQUIPPED THAN POLYTECHNICS
THE UNDER GRADUATE CLASSES RUNS ONLY UPTO ONLY 2PM AND FOR RESEARCH WORK THEY HAVE TO REGISTER WITH UNIVERSITY CAMPUS
IN POLYTECHNICS PEOPLE ARE WORKING FOR 8 HOURS AND DOING LOTS OF OTHER ALLIED DUTIES ALONG WITH TEACHING AND THE FACULTY IS HIGHLY QUALIFIED
No I dont agree with Mr. MFQ.
We from Karnataka All Technical Association contacted AICTE and also submitted our High court order and They also assured us to make scales but not included,But our state government also writen Leter to AICTE and agreed to impliment 6th pay scale but AICTE not done It is injustis to us
We from Karnataka All Technical Association contacted AICTE and also submitted our High court order and They also assured us to make scales but not included,But our state government also writen Leter to AICTE and agreed to impliment 6th pay scale but AICTE not done It is injustis to us
Please appeal to the all polytechnic teachers of all the states to unite and form a state level committees. The committee heads of all states will support Mr Chandrashekhar who is doing excellent job
I AGREE WITH M.S
THIS IS AN URGENT NEED
ONCE THE DUTIES OF COMMON WEALTH GAMES WILL START LIKE ELECTION DUTIES NOTHING WILL HAPPEN
THEN WE WILL GET 6TH PAY ONLY AFTER 2011
LOOK INTO THIS MR. CHANDER SHEKER
ITS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE
YOU ARE DOING EXCELLENT JOB WE ARE WITH YOU
WAKE UP AIFTO LIKE SID
I dont agree with M.S
MR. TING TING WHY TOU DONT AGREE ANY REASONS FOR THE SAME
WHAT YOU WANT TO SIT AND WAIT
GOD WONT GIVR LADOO IN THE HANDS
MR. TING TING WHY TOU DONT AGREE ANY REASONS FOR THE SAME
WHAT YOU WANT TO SIT AND WAIT
GOD WONT GIVR LADOO IN THE HANDS
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The teachers of technical institutes in Delhi are still waiting for a revision of their salaries in accordance to the Sixth Pay Commission review.
Faculty members of institutes under the Delhi government ¿ such as Netaji Subhash Institute of Technology, Ambedkar Technical Institute and GB Pant Institute of Technology, etc ¿ have yet to benefit from the Sixth Pay Commission's review.
In states like Rajasthan, meanwhile, the revision has been implemented, the faculty members claim.
According to sources, the reason for the delay is while the University Grants Commission and the National Knowledge Commission (NKC) recognise the distinction between polytechnic colleges and engineering colleges, the Delhi government has not maintained the demarcation, which has led to confusion.
On NKC website, the link to Delhi government educational institutes shows polytechnic colleges and Industrial Training Institutes (ITI) (that normally come under Vocational Education) as part of Training and Technical Education — along with engineering colleges offering full-time B.Tech courses.
Dr Ashok Mittal and Dr R K Sharma from the Ambedkar Technical Institute, affiliated to Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University, said, "We were inducted through UPSC and we haven't seen any rise in our scale after the Fifth Pay review."
The non-teaching staff of these institutes, meanwhile, has already seen a significant rise in their salary.
Hamari Jamatia
Mr. Ting Ting,
In democracy you certainly have right to not to agree with others on a particular issue. But why cant you put forward your reasons/ views for the same.
It would be more interesting if you would tell us who you really are?
Mr. NCS,
what is your opinion/ stand on setting up our federations' Camp_Office in New Delhi for this mission?
Once in Delhi he can also take help of Left parties who are the strong supporters of all such issues? I recall during Fifth pay commission, one morning these lefties had held the Loksabha to standstill and the issue was settled by the evening.
We have to use all the methods to serve our purpose.
Can the fellow polytechnic teachers from New Delhi, help the Association in providing logistic support etc. to NCS and his core team? Let them express their views too.
Remember for us now ACITE (Sixth) Pay Scales wlong with PB4 (Surely We Will Accept Nothing Less than Degree Engg College Pay Scales) is the issue which is to be solved as someone said before Commonwealth Games or Parliament Sessions etc?
As my guesstimate, if there could be average 20-25 teachers in every polytechnic college and about 10,000 polytechnics around the country, we surely have about 200,000 benefeciaries.
So if we lead a Morcha on Parliament in the forthcoming Session in Now/Dec and even if only 10,000 teachers participate it would be a great news and those IAS babus who have become the thorn in the issue will have to act. AIFUCTO did the same trick last time!
More comments please!
Hi Mallikarjun Kallimath,
Will you elaborate more on what the court orders were about? What exactly they ordered AICTE to do? You may attact pdf files of the same for benefit of all along with case-history in brief.
If this is going to do the trick, all the state association will also file the cases in respective high courts!
Hi Mallikarjun Kallimath,
Sorry once typo error! Read it as
"You may attach .pdf files of the same for benefit of all along with case-history in brief. "
lagay rahoo,kush nahi hoga
Prof. NCS,
when we access http://www.aifpto.org/ website we get the message like!
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What is the problem? Why dont you make it running once again please?
I believe any official/ serious messages may be posted on AICFPTO website, and not on such forums! Many hubbers are playing mischief with the sentiments of Poly. teachers. So I request you to consider this. MR. NCS may post the message on this forum, to tell all of us that some posting had made on official website, we all wil visit it for sure. But dont allow anyone to play with the sentiments of us.
Someone may false trigger agitation and we all get into troubles. Pl. consider this Sir.
Please include Maharashtra Polytechnic Teachers we are ready i am Lecturer in Mech. Engg. at govt. poly.arvi dist. Wardha My mobile no. 09423426112
lagay rahoo------ha ha ha ---
Dear friends,
The AIFPTO website is temporarily unavailable. Hence we are making efforts to place the latest news on Pay revision for Polytechnic teachers on the PALA (Polytechnic All Lecturers' Association, Andhra Pradesh) website, i.e. www.palaap.org. Please visit the website often. Please cooperate with us in all activities.
Yours Sincerely,
N Chandra Shekhar,
General Secretary, AIFPTO
& President, PALA
Gr8 Thanks NCS!
I visited the website now! We will all visit their for aunthenticated updates!
Thank you Very Much Prof. NCS for giving us PALA WEB SITE NAME for latest NEWS about aicte reivsed polytechnic scales
A LOT OF THANKS TO AIFPTO FOR THEIR CEASELESS EFFORTS. MY SUGGESTIONS--
TRAP THE RIGHT PERSON & HIT THE TARGET.
Its nice to know that meeting with Hon. Minister of HRD Mr. Kapil Sibbal is arranged in Nov. 2009. We should also remember that the winter session of Parliament will commence from November 19 and end on December 22.
Before this meeting happens cant we prepare the
groundwork for the same? Polytechnic teachers from New Delhi (who are known to Mr. Sibbal otherwise) can informly brief him about the rationality of the demands and the need to expedite them.
If this could be done I am sure the HRM Minister will be convinced at once and over-rule the suggestions of babus which may be detrimental to getting of PB4 band. TRAP THE RIGHT PERSON & HIT THE TARGET.
May be Mr. NCS can also be invited to such briefings so that there is no misunderstandings with what we really want and what we really ask for! yes right person should hit the target!
Colleagues from New Delhi, what do you say?
Prof. M. K.
Dear M.K.
Collegues of New Delhi are already in touch with AIFPTO, actually thet are taking active part in all the activities. Mr. Madanlal Rana at Delhi is doing all hard work there
Dear ARS,
Gr8 news for of us around here. Only with intelligent and consistent efforts we can achieve the goal. Remember, once we loose the PB4 parity with Engg. Degree college teachers, next time we will be compare with some much lower grade employees!
Mr. Madanlal Rana keep up the good work and more importantly keep us posting the events as they happens.
Dear ARS,
Gr8 news for of us around here. Only with intelligent and consistent efforts we can achieve the goal. Remember, once we loose the PB4 parity with Engg. Degree college teachers, next time we will be compare with some much lower grade employees!
Mr. Madanlal Rana keep up the good work and more importantly keep us posting the events as they happens.
Why AICTE has not yet published the revised pay scale? The whole teaching community (except lucky few)is till now deprived of the revised pay benefit and facing the brunt of enhanced revised market price of all commodities. Is somebody listening?
Dera medicol,
Sir, every one is listening to what you have written but no one is prepared to do anything other than writing a few lines on hub page including you and me. So, when private managements of colleges and isntitutes will want, AICTE will do it. till then let all of us live in mental peace (mental pieces.
Hi AIFTO,
What is fresh news from MHRD?
Hi AIFTO,
What is fresh news from MHRD?
It is a happy news that at least now the AICTE has announced the sixth pay scale. The implementation of the same should be considered by the Engineering colleges immediately.
Dear Mr. Sastry,
MHRD has decided and conveyed to AICTE to notify pay scales of technical teachers based on pay scales released for UGC teachers.AICTE has not yet notified. Any such news with you, Sir?
Dear K.M.Sastry
I am not following you. Has AICTE notified the revision????
Dear K. M. Sastry,
Go home and have a nice sleep. Do not confuse the teachers from your absurd postings. Good night.
I have been correctly informed that the MoS Smt Purandeswari Devi looks only the broader and non-policy work. Thus the polytechnic scales shall be decided By the Sh Sibal. Have any one of us met him? What about bureacratic set-up?
I have been correctly informed that the MoS Smt Purandeswari Devi looks only the broader and non-policy work. Thus the polytechnic scales shall be decided By the Sh Sibal. Have any one of us met him? What about bureacratic set-up?
Dear All,
The meeting with Hon. Minister of HRD Mr. Kapil Sibbal is arranged early Nov. 2009. He is the person who really matters. But MOS in HRD will help us reach us till him and create positive opinion about the issue.
As I always say, before this meeting happens we need to prepare the groundwork for the same? Polytechnic teachers from New Delhi, who are say prominent Congress Party workers, who have helped him in winning elections or who are close to Mr. Sibbal otherwise can informaly brief him about the rationality of the demands and the need to expedite them.
If this could be done I am sure the HRM Minister will be convinced at the earliest issue the orders to place Sel. Grade Lectures with 3 years experience in the PB4 band.
Mr. NCS please place the events/news as and when they happen on your PALA website with the link over here.
We all should believe that any news/information place on PALA website is authentic and anything else is rumours.
Prof. M. K.
Our friends and colleagues from Delhi have already met Kapil Sibal. But no news of the outcome.this happened about some time back
Thanks MFQ,
Thanks for the update! We all need to be alert always and be in touch with the concerned ministers and the key official. We shall not rest till we reach the goal.
Jai Ho!
Prof. M.K.
The above posting regarding the meeting of our friends & cooligues with Kapil sibbal is fake.Some saddist fellow has posted the matter.Choosing this hub for posting any matter became risky,hence one should choose palap website for posting athentic news.
Pb-4 denied,authentic news
Dear Prof MFQ,
The nasty ppl around here have made a bad joke. I read MQF as MFQ and wrote the above hubb.
Only after I read your recent post I realized the mistake. I will not hubb on this page. Any authetic will be made availabe for all genuine purpose only on PALA website.
M.K.
MQF says and so do our friends and colleagues from Delhi that Pisu is saddist bugger!
Dear all,
Thank you for the support! I think this post has now lost its relevance, so I declare this hubb as closed. Any updates can be had from PALA website http://www.palaap.org
Mr. NCS will continue to negotiate the with HRD ministry and AICTE on our behalf!
Good Bye for ever.
PaySaviour
Dear all,
Thank you for the support! I think this post has now lost its relevance, so I declare this hubb as closed. Any updates can be had from PALA website http://www.palaap.org
Mr. NCS will continue to negotiate the with HRD ministry and AICTE on our behalf!
Good Bye for ever.
PaySaviour
but we have needed a hub for discussing any update news about aicte revised pay scale.
Dear NCS:
My friends in Delhi have informed me that some persons did meet Sh Sibal on 20th Aug'2009 at his residence. Please confirm if the same is true and what was the outcome of that meeting. Were u also present in this meeting?
Please post authentic information about this meeting on the AIFPTO website.
Dear NCS:
I heard that the move from PB3 to PB4 was made 4 years after the selction grade. Is this news is correct or not?
LONG LIVE AIFPTO
PEOPLE SHOULD KEEP PRAYING FOR PB-4 FOR POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS. THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY VALID REASONS FOR NOT GIVING PB-4. PL. DO KEEP INFORMING THE UPDATES ON THE ISSUE. WAIT, WAIT ......HOPE FOR THE BEST. POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS ARE THE MOST HARD WORKING TEACHERS
really,very hard working teachers
Pisu,
behave yourself
NCS what is the latest? PALA site says you have met Purandeswarti Devi. In the past also people have met the Minister. No outcome. I am surprised that we have not been able to attract the press till now.Not even a single article on our plight?? I think this is a complete failure of AIFPTO???? Please plan an agitation or else we all should forget about the pay scales.
Really? Hardly working teachers, ARS!
Really? Hardly working teachers, ARS!
What is latest news about polytechnic pay scale
Dear PISU,
This is not the forum to post such comments. Every where you can find hard working and hardly working people. It is left to the individuals....
What the AICTE is doing.....??? Is they waiting for green signal from Private Engg Colleges...??? AICTE will never learn the lesson.... due to its inefficent working, the whole technical teachers community is sufferring...We the technical teachers should unite to teach lesson for rotten AICTE system...
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LETS FACE IT !!! WE DO NOT DESEERVE EVEN PB2!!!!
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LOOKS LIKE EVERY ONE AGREES THAT WE ARE ALL LALLU'S. AT LEAST WE AGREE ON ONE ISSUE.
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pl anyone let us know the latest posiyion for 6th pay scales for polytechnic teachers. awake AIFPTO
Today file is with Mr Sibal. PB4 after four years of Selection. Delayed occurs since secretary finance at MHRD got retired on 31st october 2009.confirm news on behalf of AGOTE. We can expect in next week positively.
/Vinay
Dear Vinay,
I KNOW mr AGOTE IS ONE OF THE OFFICE BEARER OF aifpto,hence no matter of any doubt can occur,as I am also aware about the information about the retirement of Mr Agrawal.But this posting at this hub is something fuzzy due to many fake news posted by many people in the past.I am also an active
member of Chhattisgarh state and every news in past by NCS have been shared with me ,but surprisingly this news is not being shared ,I am egerly waiting for any news like this from NCS.By the way could you please provide me any contact number of Mr AGOTE please.
not possible pb4 for polytechnic teachers
not possible pb4 for polytechnic teachers
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Respected MFQ sir,
With due regard I am happy that file is signed & cleared by Mr Sibal in the evening around 4:00 PM. Now It will routed to AICTE for notification & this time u will get good news very soon. PB4 is after 4 year of selection grade. Contact no of one of the AGOTE office bearer is Dr Subhashish Banerjee, GS 9873004750.
/Vinay
Respected MFQ sir,
With due regard I am happy that file is signed & cleared by Mr Sibal in the evening around 4:00 PM. Now It will routed to AICTE for notification & this time u will get good news very soon. PB4 is after 4 year of selection grade. Contact no of one of the AGOTE office bearer is Dr Subhashish Banerjee, GS 9873004750.
/Vinay
Dear Mr. Vinay
I hope that the news shared by you is genuine. Could you please provide some more details if you have.
POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS ARE TOTALLY FRUSTRARED .CENTRAL GOVT. IS KEEPING MUM . ALL POYTECHNIC TEACHERS SHOULD RAISE VIOCE .
Dear Vinay:
You are either an associate or S Bannerjee himself. Basically u r a fraud trying to further harass the polytechnic teachers with loose talk.Why don't you post your real name and contact no. Dr. Bannerjee is Angreji teacher(at least that is what he claims) and has no contribution towards the cause. If you are willing to disclose your true identity , I shall also disclose mine.
I shall prove that Bannerjee is a big stone and is an insect.
Who is this Bannerjee. As per the comment he is the GS of AGOTE. What is AGOTE. I have a frienf in a Delhi Polytechnic.He says AGOTE is the Association of PolyTeachers in Delhi. He also says that Dr. Bannerjee has a very big EGO and is an unreliable person . Besides he is creating all kinds of problems for other members of AGOTE.
My friend is reliable and therefore please do believ on any post regarding bannerjee.I request all not to post false comments.Please understand that the polytechnic teachers are already in tension.
Thank you all
Read " pleaase DO NOT BELIEVE ON ANY POST REGARDING bannerjee".
AN APPEAL TO ALL POLY TEACHERS-
SEND ONE E-MAIL & ONE SMS (BY EVERYBODY) TO HONOURABLE MINISTER MR. SIBBAL REFERING THE QUOTATIONS OF HONOURABLE PRIME MINISTER FOR TEACHERS YESTERDAY.THE MINISTER SHOULD BE FLOODED WITH E-MAILS & SMS.AIFPTO SHOULD PROVIDE E-MAIL ADDRESS & MOBILE NO. OF THE HONOURABLE MINISTER IMMEDIATELY.
Good News for polytechnic teachers at:
www.palaap.org website.
DEAR FRIENDS,
I think it is a very high time to Congratulate the AIFPTO executive members; on achievement of PB-IV.
Thanks indeed and Congratulations on be half of all the Staff memebers
Good News Dear POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS ,On the request of AIFPTO, Honble HRD Minister Sri.Kapil Sibal sent a note to AICTE to consider the demands of AIFPTO for inclusion of PB-4 and re submitt the proposal to MHRD.On MOnday the 16th of November 2009 AIFPTO OFFICIALS are leaving for New Delhi
Good News Dear POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS ,On the request of AIFPTO, Honble HRD Minister Sri.Kapil Sibal sent a note to AICTE to consider the demands of AIFPTO for inclusion of PB-4 and re submitt the proposal to MHRD.On MOnday the 16th of November 2009 AIFPTO OFFICIALS are leaving for New Delhi
DEAR FRIEDNDS,
According to reliable sources "On the request of AIFPTO, Honble HRD Minister Sri.Kapil Sibal sent a note to AICTE to consider the demands of AIFPTO for inclusion of PB-4 and re submitt the proposal to MHRD".On MOnday the 16th of November 2009 President Sri.N. Chandra Sekhar ,General Secretary Sri. Y. Narsaiah Goud and Treasurer Sri. K. S. Chakravarthi are leaving for New Delhi
Dear friends,
News is that the file relating to the 6th Pay Revision is being referred back to AICTE for possible rectification of anomalies, espeially PB4. We have to congratulate Sri K.S. Shiva Ramu, President, AGOTE and his core team who have constantly pusued the matter with the MHRD officials at New Delhi. The entire polytechnic teaching community are forever indebted to Sri Shiva Ramu and his team. Presently we are seeking appointment with the Chairman and Member Secretary AICTE on 16th or 17th November 2009.
Yours Sincerely,
N Chandra Shekhar
General Secretary
AIFPTO
What is about AICTE declaration regarding 6th pay?
Even Modi has accepted th UGC scales.
good news after long time.
good news after long time.
All are here very much interested in polytech. pay scale....what happened to degree level engg. colleges? when AICTE will declare revised pay scale? or it is sleeping....
After notification of MHRD more than one month passed...but still AICTE with Kapil sibal is Sleeping...nothing can happen in this country...
All are here very much interested in polytech. pay scale....what happened to degree level engg. colleges? when AICTE will declare revised pay scale? or it is sleeping....
After notification of MHRD more than one month passed...but still AICTE with Kapil sibal is Sleeping...nothing can happen in this country...
Dear Technical Teachers:
I am saddened by the unfolding of the events pertaining to the scales of Degree/Diploma level faculty in our country. While the rest of the country has already received 100% of their arrears, we have not even heard about our scales!!!.
This is what happens if our(including myself) vision is narrow and engulfed in selfish motives. The scales of the Engg degree college faculty was sent by MHRD to AICTE on the 7th Oct'2009. However, till date AICTE has not issued any notification for the Degree faculty.The reason being that, the Diploma faculty scales have still not been freezed by the MHRD. The scales of Engg Degree/Diploma faculty have to be released simultaneously.
The point I wish to emphasize is that we, the Diploma and the Degree Faculty, should stand united. Either of them should not leave the other to battle alone. Here, the Degree faculty left its poor cousin alone.The degree faculty should have raised the voice for trying to isolate the Diploma Faculty. Lets stand united
forever. We must form an association of Technical Teachers , the members of which would be Degree as well Diploma Faculty.
Contrary to the general belief, the MHRD officials are very considerate, but someone needs to convey and articulate our stand in a well structured and organised manner !!!We have failed on this account as well!!.
MHRD has now already sent a communication to AICTE on the scales of the polytechnic teachers as well. May be all of us can expect a decision soon.
The above expression does not cast aspersions on anyone. All of us including myself are guilty of this approach.With this experience, we can all remold our thinking for the future benefit of all of us.
I invite the views of all Technical Teachers on this issue.
Regards and best wishes to all.
I am 100% agree with Mr.Rajat Pardal as technical ieacher's community is very small.Union of all technical teachers(degree/diploma) is only solution to raise our problems and get it materilized.All technical teachers seriously think over it and respond by posting your comments in this hub.
I further suggest that luckily we are already having a competent union AIFPTO from diploma level institute and I also heard an existing union of degree level teachers .The cobined union of both the unions may be formed.Think over it also and go ahead.
Dear MFQ,
Can you please name the union of the degree level technical teachers?
Thanks
To my mind there is no ACTIVE association of the Engg Degree Faculty.
Thank you all AIFPTO members for keeping on touch with the MHRD and AICTE. We must get our demand. otherwise no rest. we all behind on you.
Mr.sspplm
There is existing union of degree level institute,The E-mail address of the same is provided beloW-
aiecta@yahoo.com
Please make contact and co-ordinate the two unions namely:
AIFPTO & AIECTA
Dear sspplm,
I had an e-mail from AIECTA long before regarding forming a union of technical teachers,Please find enclosed below for your reference:
Dear Friends,
We are in the process of esatblishing an "All India Engineering College Teacher's Association" to address the needs of Engg college Teachers in the country.
At this point of time we need to take up the issue of announcement of revised AICTE pay scale. This report is presently lying with MHRD and we need to take measures to its implementation immidiately without further delay.Unfortunately we have seen in the recent past that, the problems were addressed only when "voice" is raised by concerned organisation like UGC,IIT,NIT,now Air India Pilots.
YOU ARE ALL REQUESTED TO COORDINATE WITH YOUR STATE ENGG COLLEGE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION LEADERSHIP AND ASK THEM TO SEND A MAIL WITH THEIR VIEW IMMIDIATELY TO aiecta@yahoo.co. (Attn:Prof.K.M.ramakrishna please ask ACKETA office bearers to contact us from Karnataka Engg teacher Assn)
Based on their response we plan an interim measure to address the AICTE scale from our side.
This forum is intended to take up all matters related to ENGG EDUCATION/Faculty problems etc in the future course.
Your cooperation is highly solicited
Thanks and Regards
Coordinator
All India Engineering College Teacher's Association (proposed)
c/o DELHI COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING TEACHER'S ASSOCIATION
dceta2009@gmail.com
DELHI COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING
Bawana Road, DELHI-110042
Dear friends, Dt. 16-11-2009
On the representation of AIFPTO to rectify the possible anomalies in the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee Report for Polytechnic teachers, including the possible denial of the crucial PB 4, the MHRD has assigned the task to the Committee constituted for the implementation of MHRD recommendations for Engg. College teachers.
The Committee is headed by Dr. Vijay Khole, Former Vice Chancellor, University of Mumbai. The other members of the Committee included Dr. D.N. Reddy, Vice Chancellor, JNTU, Hyderabad, Dr. M.N. Bandyopadhyay, Director, NIT, Kurukshetra, Dr. S.K. Mahajan, DTE, Maharashtra, Dr. K.P. Isaac, DTE, Kerala, Prof. B.B. Ahuja, Principal, Govt. Engineering College, Pune & the Vice Chancellor, Jadhavpur University. Dr. A.K. Paliwal, Member Secretary is the Convenor.
The First & Second meetings of the Committee are scheduled for 16th & 23rd November 2009 at Mumbai. The Third meeting would be held before 6th December 2009 at New Delhi by which time the Committee is expected to submit its report.
On 14th November 2009, PALA office bearers Sri Y. Narsaiah Goud, General Secretary, Sri K.S. Chakravarthy, Treasurer and Sri Kola Raghavanand, Joint Secretary have submitted the proposals of the Federation to Dr. D.N. Reddy, VC, JNTU, Hyderabad and discussed the possible anomalies in the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee Report for Polytechnic teachers. Dr. D.N. Reddy has appreciated the work done by the Federation and assured the delegation that he would recommend positively in the meetings.
Sri V.M. Rajasekharan, Secretary, South Zone, AIFPTO has contacted Dr. K.P. Isaac, DTE, Kearla and submitted the proposals of the Federation. Sri Pratap Desai Polytechnic faculty from Kolhapur is already in touch with the (three) Committee members from Maharashtra. The Polytechnic Teachers’ Association from Maharashtra is meeting Dr. S.K. Mahajan, DTE, Maharashtra today morning to discuss the issue.
Efforts are being put up vigorously to contact the other members at the earliest and convince each of them on the need for better pay scales and service conditions for Polytechnic teachers.
Meanwhile, the file relating to the Pay scales of Polytechnic teachers was sent to AICTE on 13th November 2009. The efforts of Sri K.S. Shivaramu, President, AGOTE and his team at New Delhi in getting the file cleared have to be acknowledged by one and all.
Any latest developments would be notified in the PALA website.
Yours Sincerely,
N Chandra Shekhar,
General Secretary,
AIFPTO
Gr8 Work Done NCS!
Commendable job done!
Wish all the best of Luck in all your efforts!
Prof. J. N. Dave (A Poly Teacher) 16.11.2009
Daer NCS and AFTO
Commendable job by AIFPTO team. Keep it up!
By the way, you could have demanded for a membership in the this committe at least, so that you could have prsented our case more effectively.
Henceforth, AIFPTO should demand for a representation for polytechnic teachers in all such committees dealing/pertaining to polytechnic affairs. I donot understand the rationale behind appointing only IISc/University professors to revise the payscales of polytechnics. You must take up this issue seriously.
Prasad
Dear NCs:
I am totally confused. Please help me understand the real scenario.On one hand we are celebrating the submission of our file by MHRD to the AICTE(possibly because of some good news in the file). On the other hand,a new committee consisting of 8 persons have been formed????
Why and where is the need for submission of proposals at this stage. The proposals would be already available in our file? What is the scope of this committee??Has it been given a rigid or a flexible time line??
Anyway I suggest we need to convince each member separately for which a good communicator is required. Just anyone from a nearby area MAY OR MAY NOT be able to achieve the objective.So please ensure that the people deputed for meeting these officials are really GOOD COMMUNICATORS. OTHERWISE WE MIGHT SEE A REPEAT OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE GM MEHTA COMMITTEE. If we do not have good communicators ,it is better not to meet these sharpshooter academicians!!!!!!!!!!
NCS PLEASE THINK VERY CAREFULLY ON THIS ASPECT OTHERWISE ALL THE GOOD WORK DONE BY AGOTE (K SHIVARAMU) WOULD GO DOWN THE DRAIN.Pl do not take this issue lightly.
Chanderji has raised an EXTREMLY IMPORTANT ISSUE. Since K Shivaramu was intrumental in getting the MHRD on our side, it would be good if he can be requested to represent us at Maharashtra and meet the concerned persons.At least he has done a commendable job and can do a repeat performance.NCS please take immediate decision.
All the Polytechnic Faculty of Delhi acknowledge the hard and sincere work done by Shri K Shivaramu and his team He is a silent worker and is very focussed. We all are of the opinion that Sh Shivaramu should be asked to immediately proceed to Mumbai to meet the committe members and convince them just as he did in Delhi.Or let Shivaramu nominate any member from his team.NCS very little time to think. Any Tom Dick and Harry will not do.NEED URGENT IMMEDIATE LIGHTNING ACTION AND RESPONSE.
All the Polytechnic Faculty of Delhi acknowledge the hard and sincere work done by Shri K Shivaramu and his team He is a silent worker and is very focussed. We all are of the opinion that Sh Shivaramu should be asked to immediately proceed to Mumbai to meet the committe members and convince them just as he did in Delhi.Or let Shivaramu nominate any member from his team.NCS very little time to think. Any Tom Dick and Harry will not do.NEED URGENT IMMEDIATE LIGHTNING ACTION AND RESPONSE.
I SECOND THIS OPENIAN THAT SHRI K SHIVARAMU MUST MOVE TO MUMBAI & CONVINCE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR FAVOUR OF ALL POLY TEACHERS. I AGAIN SUGGEST THAT ALL POLY TEACHERS SHOULD SEND AN E-MAIL & SMS TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE . LET THEIR E-MAIL SITES BE FLOODED WITH E-MAILS.THUS AIFPTO IS REQUESTED TO PROVIDE E-MAIL ADDRESSES& MOBILE NUMBERS OF ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
What are the terms of reference of the committee formed and how much time has been given to them for completing the work? Also what is your source of info and is it 100% true?? Pl respond immediately.I also feel that Sh. Shivaramu
should be requested and reach Mumbai tomorrow itself.NCS please take immediate action.
Regards to all
What are the terms of reference of the committee formed and how much time has been given to them for completing the work? Also what is your source of info and is it 100% true?? Pl respond immediately.I also feel that Sh. Shivaramu
should be requested and reach Mumbai tomorrow itself.NCS please take immediate action.
Regards to all
In the Pala Website The latest updates are as follows
PALA members please see the latest developments about pay revision in the AIFPTO menu,
but the link is not linking to particular page ,i think that there is some technical problem
the on going late pay revision for polytechnic staff is creating lack of interest to teach the students in a better way. govt should come forward with a broad mind to announce the pay hike at once............ delay will surely create havoc among the teaching fraternity
the on going late pay revision for polytechnic staff is creating lack of interest to teach the students in a better way. govt should come forward with a broad mind to announce the pay hike at once............ delay will surely create havoc among the teaching fraternity
I AGAIN APPEALTHAT LET THE E-MAIL ACCOUNTS OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY MHRD TO REVIEW THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PB4 TO POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS BE "FLOODED" WITH E-MAILS FORWARDED BY POLY. TEACHERS. THUS AIFPTO SHOULD PROVIDE E-MAIL ADDRESSES IMMEDIATELY.E-MAILS SHOULD BE SENT BEFORE NEXT MEETING , WHICH IS ON DT-23-11-09. IF EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER IS RECEIVING SAY 500 E-MAILS. IT WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A VERY POSITIVE IMPACT.
we(all teaching staff) are dont having even incerment but taking the decrement will be provided by the nalanda institute of engineering& technology, kantepudi(v),sattenapalli(m), guntur(d), andhra pradesh,India. please consider this issue and make an action to give proper salaries. we are not getting the money for external theory invisilations and also lab externals. why this college is like this? please save us.
News on AICTE Pay revison for Degree level technical institutions and Polytechnic Teachers
On the representation of AIFPTO to rectify the possible anomalies in the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee Report for Polytechnic teachers, including the possible denial of the crucial PB 4, the MHRD has assigned the task to the Committee constituted for the implementation of MHRD recommendations for Engg. College teachers.
The Committee is headed by Dr. Vijay Khole, Former Vice Chancellor, University of Mumbai. The other members of the Committee included Dr. D.N. Reddy, Vice Chancellor, JNTU, Hyderabad, Dr. M.N. Bandyopadhyay, Director, NIT, Kurukshetra, Dr. S.K. Mahajan, DTE, Maharashtra, Dr. K.P. Isaac, DTE, Kerala, Prof. B.B. Ahuja, Principal, Govt. Engineering College, Pune & the Vice Chancellor, Jadhavpur University. Dr. A.K. Paliwal, Member Secretary is the Convenor.
The First & Second meetings of the Committee are scheduled for 16th & 23rd November 2009 at Mumbai. The Third meeting would be held before 6th December 2009 at New Delhi by which time the Committee is expected to submit its report.
let us hope AICTE will work faster this time and we may cheer new year 2010 with revised pay.
Source 1 : Reliable AICTE Highly placed official
confirmed by
Source 2: Paycommissionupdate.blogspot.dom
Dr. akc
Above news is available on palaap.org at AIFPTO link.
I confirm it from NCS too.
Ploytechnic teachers will never get pay band 4, it is only a dream ever
Ploytechnic teachers will never get pay band 4, it is only a dream ever
Polytechnic teachers WILL get pay band4, it's dream no more.
Polytechnic teachers WILL get pay band4, it's dream no more.
Mr shivramu and rajat went to mumbai but no use. please inform dr. banerjee about your sudden trip and the outcome. why are u keeping it a secret only to agote members
AIFPTO office bearers should seriously think to call protests in delaying pay revision instead of meeting committee members of so many committees... What is the fun in meeting individualy and briefing. Atleast go to press or bring it to the notice of any MP who could raise this point in Parliament.
This is in response to the post by 'bannerjee' above. Bannerjee please let me know your contact number so that the facts can be ascertained.If u really are genuine person post your contact immediately. This is a request.
Refer to Mr. Banerjee's post commenting on Shivaramu's visit to Mumbai.You have said " Why are you keeping it a secret? I want to know why are you keeping your identity a secret? You identify yourself and you shall be contacted to tell you the details of the Mumbai visit.
Friends, I would like to clarify certain issues and misconceptions about MHRD. The senior officials, with whom I had the privildge to interact at various occassions, are sensitive to the issues raised by us. Infact I would go as far as thanking them profusely for showing concern for us and trying to alleviate our pain. Some of our colleagues are getting impatient and are using this hub to vent their frustrations. I request all my worthy colleagues to desist from using any derogatory language or gesture. Please understand that this hub represents the mindset of the Polytechnic Faculty. We should use this hub to project a positive image of ourselves!!!. Rest assured MHRD/AICTE would ensure that our grievances are redressed speedily. Till then just be patient and positive.
Thanks and best wishes to all.
please post any news.
Dear friends,
Some of the faculty belongs to polytechnics expressing the negitive views about PB-IV at the hub pages. You are requested that, not to do such a hasty comments. Be positive and give the moral support at this final stage to all AIFPTO executive members in achieving the AICTE PAY SCALES. Remember that "Rome is not built in a day".
what happened on 23rd november meeting at mumbai if there is some news please share
what happened on 23rd november meeting at mumbai if there is some news please share
Dear Colleagues:
The 23rd meeting went fine and things seem to be moving in the desired direction. The next meeting is scheduled for the 30th' Nov at Mumbai.
Just be a little more patient and , please, do not post any comments which reflect a negative image of the Polytechnic Faculty.
Thanks and best wishes to all.
got it....
got it....
hey bbbb....wt u got ...do u hv any information regarding any new development regarding pay scales of polytechnic teachers
for latest form aifto
http://www.palaap.org/uploads/Meeting%20of%20AIFPT
and
http://www.palaap.org/uploads/Meeting%20of%20AIFPT
is the blog dead, many new things go to palaap site
everybody is waiting for positive news from bombay meeting for polytechnic teachers.
Did the AICTE revised (6th pay commission) is implemented? If not, when it will be implemented?
Kind Att : NCS and AIFPTO members 28 nov
While appreciating the hard work and achievements of the AIFPTO members, we at Delhi are surprised as to how NCS can claim to be the entire force which may lead to the success of the Polytechnic movement.
We, the Delhi Polytechnic Faculty EXACTLY know that THIS WORK WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT SHIVARAMU and one more person who has requested not disclose his name. RECENTLY U CAME TO DELHI (5 PEOPLE)and may have spent more than Rs.50,000/-. What was gained other than meeting some useless MP? What was the need of meeting this lone MP at this stage? May be this amount could have been given to Delhi people for more constructive work.Promptly, you posted a picture of having met this MP.Apart from this u all simply met Dr. Paliwal? This job could have been easily done by the Delhi Faculty.Infact Shivaramu and the other person had met Dr. Mantha earlier who is the Chairman of AICTE.Please explain WHY WHY and WHY the ACTUAL PEOPLE BEHIND THIS SUCCESS (IF ACHIEVED) are not being given their due credit ? We the Delhi Faculty , want an appropriate response from you ? Alternately, we may be forced to leave AIFPTO : AIFPTO has not bothered to provide finances for the work being done by Delhi and instead wasted Rs.50,000/- or more . Mr. NCS please reply honestly if your trip to Delhi was worth the money spent? Would it not have been better to use this money more constructively? Why are you not reimbursing the Delhi Faculty expenses? If you want to lead the entire Poly Faculty, you have to answer the queries raised in an honest and candid manner. You have acknowledged the role of Shivaramu on the hub, but PALA site seldom names Shivaramu , without whom ,we can assure, you could not have moved so far. There are also some other people who have shed their blood,sweat and money??? Have u acknowledged their contribution?. As a leader please rise above these petty claims and counterclaims and try to give each one his/her due credit. This is the character of a good leader.If u wish to know my contact details send me your email I shall do the needful. But meanwhile PLEASE DO SOME INTROSPECTION ON THE ISSUES RAISED HEREIN. I am not against you but infact a well-wisher. May be ,you shall realise this fact. Please reply at the earliest and clarify your position vis-a-vis the issues raised herein.
Everyone who is dedicated to the cause deserves a lot of appreciation whether it be NCS or Delhi faculty.Local resources must be used to save money. Those who claim to have achieved something, must let others know what & how did the achieve. Credit must go to everybody who deserves it. Delhi people are close to the ministry or AICTE.They must have done something is true, but it's also true that only they could have done it all, it would not have been so late.It's a joint effort.Thanks all!
Everybody who has done anything for the cause deserves a pat on the back from all over here and those who haven't done anything for the cause also deserves a pat on the back from all over here for keeping the work for those who have done it. It makes no difference if they in Delhi or Dumdum.
Everybody who has done anything for the cause deserves a pat on the back from all over here and those who haven't done anything for the cause also deserves a pat on the back from all over here for keeping the work for those who have done it. It makes no difference if they in Delhi or Dumdum.
what is ur say Delhi Polytechnics?
Is there any designation change for polytechnic college teachers proposed?, like for arts&engineering college teachers,from lecturer to AP?
Yes its very true that Delhi Polytechnic Teachers contributed much to the movement of achieving PB-4 scale its really commendable by all other states to this gentlemen. The movement is hot and its getting ripe now and at this stage let there be no distractions and emotional outbursts. I request the polytechnic teachers of all the states to support the delhi polytechnic teachers in general and the gentlemen sivaramu and his team in particular all the help needed at this junction of hour. I sincerely request Chandrasekhar to call up Sivaramu and his team and sort out the problems.
Yes its very true that Delhi Polytechnic Teachers contributed much to the movement of achieving PB-4 scale its really commendable by all other states to this gentlemen. The movement is hot and its getting ripe now and at this stage let there be no distractions and emotional outbursts. I request the polytechnic teachers of all the states to support the delhi polytechnic teachers in general and the gentlemen sivaramu and his team in particular all the help needed at this junction of hour. I sincerely request Chandrasekhar to call up Sivaramu and his team and sort out the problems.
Unity is strength. I am sure we all agree on this. So friends small differences and their amicable solution shall further strengthen our association.MHRD and AICTE are fairly impressed by our disciplined movement.I am sure they shall alleviate our agony soon and give us an opportunity to thank them.All of us have waited patiently and now, hopefully, the long wait shall end soon.
All the best.
We Agree unity is strength. We are sure we all agree on this. So friends small differences and their amicable solution shall further strengthen our association. MHRD and AICTE are fairly impressed by our disciplined movement. We are sure they shall alleviate our agony soon and give us an opportunity to thank them.All of us have waited patiently and now, hopefully, the long wait shall end soon.
Lets not break up jus before we get the ripened fruit! And about the designation what do you all think fellows? as pe me what is really matters is PB4 at the first instance right?
All the best wishes!
we do appreciate the commendable work by Delhi assn.pl.remember AIFPTO is formed to coordinate all activities of all assns.pl.be patient and leave the job to NCS & his team.What hapned at delhi and the follow may be posted at the earliest. with Regards
We do agree that Delhi people are working hard and AIFPTO too. At this juncture we must show unity and appricate everyone's work.
We do agree that Delhi people are working hard, AIFPTO and N ChandraShekhar too. At this juncture we must show unity and appricate everyone's work.
We too agree that Delhi people are working hard, AIFPTO and N ChandraShekhar too. At this juncture we must show unity and appricate everyone's work.
There is no doubt that, without the active and well coordinated action plan of Shivaramu and his team, this work could NOT HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED.All the action took place in Delhi and Shivaramu was always at the centre of this action. Yes NCS has also worked hard. Long live the Polytechnic Faculty UNITY.
Other than SHIVARAMU OF AGOTE DELHI, ALL OF US PLEASE NOTE THAT:
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!
Repeat this 2000000000000000000000000000000 times so that
we forget PB4 4ever.
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUM LALLU HAI HUM LALLU HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sir pl. let us know the latest news for pb-4 after 30th nov. meeting
I came to know that who fulfils the qualifications prescribed by AICTE will get automatically get AICTE payscales along with PB4 and those who are not possessing the qualifications prescribed by AICTE will not get revised payscales of AICTE. For those people(who are not qualified) the respective state governments will implement their own scales like in UGC for degree college's(Which is the existing system in different states). The same will be adopted here in the case of degree/diploma technical institutions. Conformation is required either from AIFPTO or NCS or Shiv Ramu or any body who claims that the AICTE pay scales are implementing only because of their existence.
any latest news after 3rd dec meeting. is there news regarding qualifications.
Dear Colleagues:
The meeting is scheduled for tomorrow ie 4th Dec'2009 at New Delhi.
Thanx
Dear Colleagues:
The meeting is scheduled for tomorrow ie 4th Dec'2009 at New Delhi.
Thanx
In the face of severe shortage of qualified (PhD) Professors and thus Principals is it not desirable that the Basic Sciences Professors working in engineering colleges be made Principal of Engineering colleges if found capable for the post?
Kindly let us know the relevent rules in the regard and the number of such appointments in our country.
Even geography is a science in its own way. So why not a person with BA(Geography, MA(Geography), MPhil(Geography)
PhD(Geography) run some Engg. College. Gr8 way to overcome shortages friend.
As every knows the capability for the post is post of Principal is his ability to go along with the authorities.
kindly let us know the outcome of dec 4th meeting
HI NFG
PB-4 IS GIVEN TO ALL POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS. DONOT WORRY. BE HAPPY. GO HOME AND SLEEP.
AICTE Pay revision : Update
The news is that AICTE committee is about to submit its recommendations to AICTE within a day or two. It will be then approved in AICTE's governing body meeting scheduled on 15 Dec 09. Then only AICTE will notified it.
Sources said that AICTE committee has accepted the recommendation of PB-IV for polytechnic faculty with some conditions regarding qualifications etc. It means those who are having prescribed qualifications will get PB-IV at par with UGC scales. However right now there is no confirmed news regarding it.
source:educator.rediffiland.com
the above link is of V pay for diploma level teachers.
It is a very rare document.I was searching it for last two years.
Could please let me know what are qualifications prescribed by AICTE ? inorder to get pb4 AICTE payscales
Could please let me know what are qualifications prescribed by AICTE ? inorder to get pb4 AICTE payscales
what happend to palaap.org people, they are not updating their news.
The point raised is that "can the Approved Professors working in engineering colleges be made Principal of Engineering colleges if found capable for the post?"
Please do not stretch it anything else.
dear dg the aicte notification dtd. 30 dec 1999 is very old. i was having that copy at that time only.
what are the qualifications prescribed by aicte for getting PB4 to selection grade lecturers.
What are the qualification proscribed for getting PB4 TO selection grade lecturers ?
kindly let us know the qualification for incubants selection grade lect. to get pb4
Please visit palaap.org for any latest information.
Hi BSV
Previously you have said presence of nothing in paala.org. Now you r recommending to visit that site!
By the way, we can see lot of bedroom photograps than pay revision news in that site!
Dear fellow teachers, do not miss to see their (AIFPTO leadres) photoghphs in bedrooms. These leaders donot have guts to atlest issue a press statement/draw media attention regarding dely in pay revision.
no possible to wait any more
no possible to wait any more
No P-IV band to polytech teachers
I fully agree with RTY. It looks NCS and company are more interested in presenting a screen image. If NCS is reading this hub please post the following information on this hub:
1) Justify the expense to the tumne of approx Rs.60,000/- on your recent hop to Delhi. As per the Pala site you have met, Dr. Paliwal (Member SecAICTE),Some Vague MP. Did you gain anything?
2) Could this task not be handled by Delhi Polytechnic faculty viz Sh Shivaramu? You yourself have stated the good work done by Shivaramu.
3) " The work , if achieved, would not have been possible without Sh Shivaramy"
Do you agree to this statement or not.
Whar are we going to do with your photographs?
I fully agree with RTY. It looks NCS and company are more interested in presenting a screen image. If NCS is reading this hub please post the following information on this hub:
1) Justify the expense to the tumne of approx Rs.60,000/- on your recent hop to Delhi. As per the Pala site you have met, Dr. Paliwal (Member SecAICTE),Some Vague MP. Did you gain anything?
2) Could this task not be handled by Delhi Polytechnic faculty viz Sh Shivaramu? You yourself have stated the good work done by Shivaramu.
3) " The work , if achieved, would not have been possible without Sh Shivaramy"
Do you agree to this statement or not.
Whar are we going to do with your photographs?
there is a request to all the poly teachers to keep patience please everything is going to be sweet
who are you gil?
Dear friends, kindly go through the folloing reprsentation submitted to AICTE by AIFTO.
To Dt. 26-11-09
Member Secretary
AICTE
New Delhi.
Respected Sir,
Sub: AIFPTO - VI Pay Revision for teachers of Polytechnics – Inordinate delay – Certain concerns - Reg.
Ref: Meeting with Member Secretary, AICTE on Dt. 25- 11-09
The AIFPTO (All India Federation of Polytechnic Teachers’ Organisations) which is the only body representing all the Polytechnic Teachers’ Associations/ Organisations in the country has submitted several representations to the Hon’ble Ministers and to the officials of MHRD and AICTE regarding the VI Pay Revision for teachers of Diploma level technical institutions.
On the advice of Member Secretary, AICTE in the meeting on Dt. 25-11-09, the Federation would like to submit the following few points to be communicated to the members of the Committee.
i) In various discussions with the officials of MHRD, it has come to light that Pay Band 4 is being denied to the Polytechnic teachers in the VI Pay Committee Recommendations. Whereas our counterparts in the Universities and Engg. Colleges have been recommended the Pay Band 4.
a. Such a recommendation is contrary to the vision of the present Government (expansion plans of setting up 1000 Polytechnics in the country) which has launched an ambitious programme of ‘Sub-Mission on Polytechnics’ to the tune of nearly Rs. 7000 Cr. in the 11th and 12th Plan periods.
b. Such a move would affect nearly 80% of the Polytechnic faculty and would force this competent and experienced faculty to leave the Diploma system and move on to Engg. colleges as the qualifications are similar but Pay structure would be different. Also the Govt.’s commitment to attract and retain qualified and talented teachers would take a back step. Further it is likely to lead to overall frustration among the Polytechnic teachers and possible agitation across the country.
c. The same pay structure has been prescribed for the Polytechnic and Engg college teachers in the previous IV & V Pay Commissions.
ii) Higher qualifications prescribed in the Notification may be insisted only for fresh recruits and not for the existing teachers for implementation of Pay Revision and promotions as there is every likelihood of senior teachers working under their juniors. Further, there are very few opportunities under QIP for teachers to acquire higher qualifications.
iii) Certain allowances like allowance for Physically Challenged teachers, Special Climate allowance were not covered in the earlier Notification. Hence, allowances if any, not covered in the Notification may be implemented on par with Central Govt. employees (6th CPC).
iv) A Grievance redressal mechanism to be constituted by AICTE to sort out any disputes between the State Govt. and teachers during the implementation of the provisions in the Notification.
The delay in issuing the notification amounts to huge monetary loss to the incumbent teachers as the MHRD is not furnishing any financial grants to the respective State Govt.s and they are at liberty to implement the Revised Scales as per their convenience.
In this regard, the Federation requests the Committee members to consider the plight of Polytechnic teachers across the country and see that the crucial Pay Band IV is recommended for Polytechnic teachers. The Federation further requests the Member Secretary, AICTE to take steps for the early Notification of Pay Scales and service conditions of Polytechnic teachers.
Thanking you,
Yours Sincerely,
(N Chandra Shekhar)
General Secretary, AIFPTO
Email: rohini64@yahoo.com
Dear AIFPTO friends
Coul you let all the fellow teachers to know who are that 20% ( point (i)b of above representation) who ge the PB-4 and who else (80%) will be affected/denied.
Also, why are you not publishing the recommendations of the Goverdhan Mehta committee. We hope you people are awre of the contents.
Hi RTY,
Thanks for visiting palaap.org and a passing a nice comment. In fact I too feel the same, previously Mr NCS asked in these hub pages to visit palaap.org for the recent developments, but till today they are not finding time to update their website. That is the reason I asked all the hubusers to visit palaap.org for recent developmennts
I request all the qualified teachers and those who are aquiring qualifications to see the and think about the point no. (ii) of the representation submitted by NCS. There is nodoubt the qualifications must be relaxed to the persons who are working in their exisiting positions to continue. But how far it is genuine to a leader like NCS, to ask the government to relax qualifications for promotion? Is it genuine to ask like this? Without improving our qualifications according to the norms prescribed by the AICTE, how is it possible to improve the standards of technical education in Inida? What do you mean by "senior teachers working under Juniors"? Do you mean to say that a qualified teacher should work under a nonqualified senior? (if at all if your plea is considered by the Government). Yes every body agrees that there are few opportunities to improve the qualifications under QIP to the technical teachers. For that you can represent the government to increase the number of seats or to create more opportunities to improve the qualifications of the working teachnical teachers like in UGC. This point is enough to the Government for not to issue PB-4 to the polytechnic teachers.
I think this point is just like an elction stunt given by a politician just before the elections. Are there any elections in your State unit i.e PALA executive body? But my sincere request to the teachers of polytechnic in AP, not to rely on this type of representations given by anybody. Qualifications are must to get PB-4 and that you are going to see in the notification which is expected on December 16th 2009.
Dear BSV,
Please do not be hasty in your comments or suggestions. The point you have risen regarding relaxation of Qualifications was discussed at length by the Federation members and a decision was taken before finalising the proposals to be submitted to AICTE & MHRD. The same was submitted to the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee also. Hence, it is not the submission of NCS or any individual. It is a collective decision. Kindly be careful before you can comment. You can also clarification from your State Association office bearers if they are already members of AIFPTO.
It will not be out of way to say that PALA, AP has passed a resolution in its State Council Meeting to see that Qualifications are relaxed for all in service teachers for extension of AICTE Pay scales and for promotions.
Yours Sincerely,
N Chandra Shekhar
General Secretary
AIFPTO
The comments of BSV are highly realistic and genuine.
Probably this could be the reason for delaying/denying PB-4 for polytechnic teachers.
It is well known that in the previous payrevision (5th pay) M.E/M.Tech was made compulsory to become selection grade lecturer in polytechnics. This has been mentioned in the AIFPTO represention too while submitting the comparitive statement (visit paala.org site). (However this truth is almost ignored while claiming the PB-4 for polytechnics). If the same logic continues, only existing selection grade lectures must get PB-4 (assuming all exixting selection grade lectures have post graduation in Engg.). However, in many states, by some arrangements, senior lecturers who do not have ME/Mtech have become selection garde lectures without enhancing their qualification ( In Engg. colleges and NITs, people with B.E qualification never get selection garde even after 15 years of service). But it is possible in polytechnics!. This has been brought to the notice of Goverdhan mehta commitee by several Engg. college teachers/NIT associations). This is utter violation of AICTE norms. This might have prompted the AICTE to deny PB-4 for all teachers (anticipating, PB-4 would be extened for everybody irresepective of qualification in polytechnics).
Now, AIFPTO leaders are bargaining (dancing for some state assocoations tune) PB-4 for everybody irrespective of qualification? Is it not absurd claim?
Teachers in IITs (having Ph.D /PDF from foreign universities) struggled to get PB-4 (that too after 3 years of post Ph.D service). AIFPTO is fighting for PB-4 even for the people having Diplomo qualification. This might have enraged AICTE/MHRD to delay the pay revision.
Dear friend NCS,
Thanks for the reply you have posted here and I am happy to came to know that my predictions are correct(regarding the elections). My dear friend I am sharing my feelings here, not to give any discomforts to any body. Truth cannot be digested easily, that everybody knows it.
I never said that it is your individual decision. Infact being an association leader you should work for the majority 80% people (as per (i)b of your representation). But once again I request you to think about the standards that are set to improve the quality of Technical Education in India. Any how I am not satisfied with your answer, my friend, you have to think as a General Secretary of AIFPTO, but not as President of PALA AP. I am sorry to say this, I have responded to your statement, ("It will not be out of way to say that PALA, AP has passed a resolution in its State Council Meeting to see that Qualifications are relaxed for all in service teachers for extension of AICTE Pay scales and for promotions"), in this way. Do you know that I am also come under 80% people(again refer (i)b of your representation). I am not thinking about myself, but for the improvement of quality of Technical Education for future generations of India in the coming 11th and 12th plan periods on which the Government wants to spend nearly about 7000 Cr. How big amount is this? It must be rightly utilised.
Quality can be achieved only when the qualified candidates occupy the highest positions(to the best of my knowledge) and every teacher should improve his/her qualifications as set by AICTE. I am once again repeating my statement that one can ask the Government to continue the existing staff, who are not possessing the qualifications, in their present post. Normally this will happen in any Pay revision. But for promotion one should aquire the prescribed qualifications. Dont worry I am not asking AIFPTO or PALA AP to fight for this.
Any how I wish all the best in the coming elections in your State unit PALA to you and to your Body. Please be cool, we are all friends finally.
yours sincerely
BSV
NCS, please rise above this petty polictics. Why are u not reimbursing the legitimate expenses of the Delhi Polytechnics? Why did you have to spent on 5 people(to and fro Air fare) to Delhi recently? At least u could have come and gone by train? I am disgusted by your self centred approach. Infact the HP faculty is activewly considereing the disassociating itself from AIFPTO.
Why no new postings or news/ updates from AIFPTO office bearers? When is the next meeting to be held? What do we expect from it?
NCS I strongly feel you are wearing two different masks. Please do not derail our movement by your narrow vision.
By the way why no news or updates from Delhi Colleagues. Why are they silent? Let us not waste our energy in blaming the NCS. We are more interested in getting PB4 rather choosing who the leader of AIFPTO is!
I think most of poly teachers wud agree with me, right?
Let us stop playing the blame game for a while.
So updates please.
By the way why no news or updates from Delhi Colleagues. Why are they silent? Let us not waste our energy in blaming the NCS. We are more interested in getting PB4 rather choosing who the leader of AIFPTO is!
I think most of poly teachers wud agree with me, right?
Let us stop playing the blame game for a while.
So updates please.
Dear Atul Dubey, Baroda
Have your association paid any money to the Delhi Polytechnic Faculty? Do you know such issues need time,energy , effort and MONEY.Please ask NCS why he came to Delhi with 5 people by air when the Delhi Faculty is already short of funds??
NCS please also respond immediately. You are trying to derail the entire movement.Why don't you accept that you spent that money on publishing your bedroom photographs??
Dear NCS,
What is the latest on Polytechnic Pay Scales? If you know the latest please post it on the hub. Well Delhi faculty already have the latest.It seems you tried to project yourself as the Messiah of the Polytechnic Faculty without acknowledging their contribution in true sense. Plesae respond to my earlier post as to why you 5 people came to Delhi and what specific did you achieve after spending Rs.60,000/- ? Why are you not re-imbursing the Delhi Faculty??
all are bloody idiots, they are telling lies only
all are bloody idiots, they are telling lies only
Dear Prof. Chander,
If you really claim that you have the latest inputs then tell it all of us here.
Any one who has done the job which really fulfils the aspirations of the polytechnic teachers will be the "messiah" (as you claim)!
Dear Prof. Chander,
If you really claim that you have the latest inputs then tell it all of us here.
Any one who has done the job which really fulfils the aspirations of the polytechnic teachers will be the "messiah" (as you claim)!
please behave and express as lecturers we are not in sansasd bhhavan
I request AIFPTO to come out with the latest through the website and through this hub. This hub is being mis-utilised. For eg the earlier post in my name was never posted by me.
Thanks
Dear Prof. Chander,
Its surprising to read your hub like this. One can have a second thought on any matter. We understand that.
But me too request AIFPTO to come out with the latest through its website or www.palaap.org if everyone else agree to.
Dear Prof. Chander,
Its surprising to read your hub like this. One can have a second thought on any matter. We understand that.
But me too request AIFPTO to come out with the latest through its website or www.palaap.org if everyone else agree to.
Almost one year is completed for the Notification of UGC Pay
scale. And No any authentic News for the AICTE Pay Scale. This Cause lot many Fustration among all polytechnic Teachers.
All Various Fedration leaders here requested to give some
Authentic News When it will declare by AICTE ? one month
two month. three month or more ?
Please Reply if anybody have authentic news .
This hub is being used to vent out frustrations. This is OK but it does represnt chinks in the unity of the Polytechnic Faculty. Remember that unity is very essential for our struggle to succeed. Yes, differences may occur but we should not vent them through this hub.
I suggest that AIFPTO site should be activated to allow the members to post their views and comments. This hub should be deactivated. A more informative website of AIFPTO would help remove all communication gaps.
Thanks
This hub is being used to vent out frustrations. This is OK but it does represnt chinks in the unity of the Polytechnic Faculty. Remember that unity is very essential for our struggle to succeed. Yes, differences may occur but we should not vent them through this hub.
I suggest that AIFPTO site should be activated to allow the members to post their views and comments. This hub should be deactivated. A more informative website of AIFPTO would help remove all communication gaps.
Thanks
no chance of pay band 4 for polytechnic teachers
no chance of pay band 4 for polytechnic teachers
all are lofers
all are lofers
bsv wants us to create a hate in our minds about him and write bad words, but he is representing some big shot in the Govt so plz be careful.
He is successful in making us more aware and focus of our goal. Lets us win the match
bsv wants us to create a hate in our minds about him and write bad words, but he is representing some big shot in the Govt so plz be careful.
He is successful in making us more aware and focus of our goal. Lets us win the match
Hi small bsv "Don't put people in confusion between Big BSV and small bsv". Serious things risen by big BSV will be diluted by doing such silly things which may protect the leaders but not the intrest of entire polytechnic teachers community all over the country.
Disclaimer :
All the State Polytechnic Associations are hereby made aware of the UNAUTHORISED COLLECTION OF MONEY BY SHRI SATISH SURYAN OF PUSA POLYETCHNIC DELHI . SATISH SURYAN IS THE EX-GS OF AGOTE AND HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS OF AGOTE WHILE HE WAS THE GS OF AGOTE .HE HAS COLLECTED MONEY FROM SOME PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE DELHI BY CLAIMING THAT HE IS DOING ALL THE GOOD WORK TOWARDS THE SPEEDY RELEASE OF THE 6CPC FOR POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS ACROSS INDIA. IT IS CLARIFIED THAT SH SATISH SURYAN, WHOSE DUBIOUS REPUTATION IS WELL KNOWN IN DELHI, IS IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH ANY WORK DONE FOR THE RELEASE OF THE 6TH PAY COMMISSION BY THE AICTE/MHRD. IT IS CATEGORICALLY MADE CLEAR THAT AGOTE AND AIFPTO SHALL IN NO WAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MONEY COLLECTED BY SH. SATISH SURYAN.FOR ANY CLARIFICATION IT IS REQUESTED THAT THE ELECTED BODIES LIKE AIFPTO AND AGOTE BE DIRECTLY CONTACTED AND NO OTHER PERSON SHOULD BE CONTACTED OR RELIED UPON. OUR MOVEMENT IS AT A CRUCIAL STAGE AND PEOPLE LIKE SATISH SURYAN SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO INFLICT FRAUD ON ANYBODY OR MALIGN THE OFFICE BEARERS.ON OUR PART AGOTE/AIFPTO SHALL LODGE A FORMAL COMPLAINT AGAINST SH SATISH SURYAN WITH THE DELHI POLICE.
THANKS TO ALL
Who are you Mr. AGOTE AND AIFPTO ? Apna Naam to Batao!
Hope to Expect the notification on December 16
Dear all,
Please stop this mud slinging business. Give good suggestions only.
WITH THIEVES LIKE SATISH SURYAN OF PUSA POLYTECHNIC DELHI, WE CAN ONCE AGAIN CHANT THE FOLLOWING MANTRA!!!!
SATISH SURYAN CHOR HAI!!!!!
Jor Se Bolo !!! Sare Bolo!!! Ah Ha Mil Kar Bolo!!
Hum Lallu(CHOR) Hai Hum Lallu(CHOR) Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Jor Se Bolo !!! Sare Bolo!!! Ah Ha Mil Kar Bolo!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
Hum Lallu Hai Hum Lallu Hai!!!
SATISH SURYAN IS A BIG THIEF AND A FRAUDSTER.
LETS FACE IT !!! WE DO NOT DESEERVE EVEN PB2!!!!
Dear Pay Saviour,
Please remove the posts which are commenting individuals. It is not fair.
This Chander is the original Chander or the proxy Chander?
Is there any body .who can tell me truth.and what actualy going on
Nothing going on
Better to shift on another hubpage, I think that is being edited regularly
NCS please post more bedroom photographs.
Rather NCS wh dont you please post more graphs showing the progress done in your mission undertaken!
Rather NCS wh dont you please post more graphs showing the progress done in your mission undertaken!
Chandrashekhar ji now please tell us the truth. We do not ned your bedroom photographs.Why did you waste Rs.60,000/- on your trip to Delhi. Did you come on a pleasure trip???
NCS please tell the latest
NCS please tell the latest
NCS please tell the latest
Please tell us about latest news for aicte pay revision of polytechnic faculty members.
Hi all
PB-4 is given to all selection grade lectures who have served 3 years in the pay scale 12000-420.
Hi all,
With reference to the previous posting...
That is for UGC and NITs. For us(polytechnic teachers).. we are fighting tooth and nail camping at NewDelhi. Wait for few more..... years?
kindly let us know the latest about poltechnic teachers
Hi friends
Meanwhile, we are busy in taking photographs. All fellow polytechnic lectures should encourage and co-operate with us.
Hi NCS
Previous postings in NCS name are just for fun. Do not worry about all thses things. Go ahead to get PB-4 for polytechnics.
From last few days Pala Website is displaying the same news, if there is some latest news, NCS pls post latest news
SKL please DND (Do not Disturb) NCS as he is busy taking photographs of his room. Shhhhhh!!!! quiet. NCS is at work Ha HA HAAAAAAAAA
Dear friends,
1. Ref letter No.23-1/2008-TS.11,Government of India, Ministry of Human Resource Development,Department of Higher Education dated 7th October, 2009. (follow URL link)
2. The copy of the letter is issued to Acting Member- Secretary, All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE), 7th Floor, Chandralok Building, lanpath, New Delhi. It is requested that the pay revision of teachers in degree level technical institutions consequent to the 6th
CPC may be notified Incorporating the above mentioned pay scales (i.e. As mentioned is above ref letter)and other
related conditions as approved by the Central Government.
3. I am not undersatnding, why AICTE is not issuing pay revision notification even after lapse of 3 months? They (AICTE) supoose to do only cut and paste, this will not take more than a week!!!
4. The AICTE web site www.aicte.ernet.in doesnt mention any progress regarding revision of pay. Since long time the AICTE web site is under construction, only god knows what they are constructing?
5. AICTE is not bothered about the welfare of technical teachers of this great nation! but it seems that they (AICTE Office barers)are interested in their own welfare.......
6. Through this blog, I request in the behalf of Technical Teachers that our Hon'ble Ministry of Human Resource Development, Department of Higher Education Shri Kapil Sibbal-ji to issue necessary guidelines to AICTE for earlier implementaion of revised pay scales to Degree Engg Colleges and Polytechnics at the earliest.
Dear NCS
A lot of irrelevant things are being posted on this hub. I sincerely feel you should activate the blog feature on the AIFPTO site so that all the members an decently express their views.I have in you but to tell you the truth, I was very angry seeing your bedroom photographs without any mention of the results of your visit to Delhi. People have started you have wasted money?? Why don't you clarify and specify exactly what you all achieved in Delhi so that your critics are silenced for ever. I am with you but you should definitely update us whenever a negative comment is made.
We all are with you in your BEDROOM.
Lets all stand united.UNITY IS STRENGTH. NCS is great. He works from his bedroom,bathroom,living room,store room etc.
Friends
AICTE has sent the polytechnic payscales file to MHRD for consent. It seems PB-4 is for all selection grade lectures (After 3 and 5 years for M.Techs and B.Techs respectively).
From highly relaiable sources.
What happened in AICTE Governing body meeting on 15th Dec.'09? No information is available anywhere. Is there any possibility of notification release in the current year?
Dear Mr. SSS,
Please disclose the names of "highly placed source".
REspected NCS
Sir, it is long since we have heard from AIFPTO. The PALA site is simply flashing the old news since donkey's ears.Also AIFPTO site has no information. I do not understand the reason of this silence. Please post the latest information regarding the pay revision of Polytechnic Teachers.
Thnakyou sir
AGOTE President Shivaramu is the key person. Persons may contact Shivaramu directly to know the latest.
for god shake give me news......
After the success of his multistarer movie titled "Bedroom Work", Shri Chandrashekahr is busy making another movie with the same cast.The location his time would be a bathroom. The name of the movie has been kept as " BAthroom Work". Our leaders are HARD(LY) working. They are busy taking photographs.
Kindly reveal the contents of the AICTE Meeting on 16/12/2009 regarding PB-IV.
NCS has once again mislead us by saying that Pay revison of Poly has been discussed in 16th meeting. The fact is that the issue of Poly Pay revision was not even in the agenda.NCS has in the past also created confusion by giving wrong or incomplete information.The fact is that the file is with the MHRD and may take about 4/5 working days.After that it shall be sent to AICTE for notification.The Degree College Engg work has been approved by MHRd today and is being sent to AICTE tomorrow.
NCS is requested not to float rumours for his personal points at the cost of the already tense and frustrated Polytechnic Faculty.
Thanking ALL
Some unscruplous persons are requesting money in my name.All my colleagues are informed that I have not authorised anyone to collect any money on my behalf. Infact I nor any of my associates require any money from ANYONE.Only AGOTE is authorised to make such requests and no idividual can do so. Thus all are requested to be vigilant and intimate any such act of collection of money to me. I shall not hesitate to report the matter to the Police for appropriate action.You are also requested to help me expose the true colours of such persons so that all of us can see their faces.
Hopefully, we shall all hear the good news within the next 7 to 10 Working days.
Thanks to all.
Thanks Mr. Rajat Pardal for the timely warning. Some Mr. Satish Suryan and Mr. Ravindar are contacting for money..They have also given the account numbers where the amount is to be deposited. I shall personally contact you and provide more details about the way they spoke to me.
it seams author is a lofer
it seams author is a lofer
What about the notification about degree level engg. teachers? Is there any progress ?
As per the information received from Mr. Shiva Ramu, President AGOTE the Pay Revision file is likely to be cleared by MHRD in the next week
Source: paala
The Polytechnic Teachers' Pay Revision file (which okays PB-4 for all existing Sel. Gr. Lecturer + 3 Years) will be cleared by MHRD on or before 24 Dec. 2009.
So all of you get full 1 week to celebrate the success!
So cheer up all the teachers! Start preparations for the fun. Cheers !
The Polytechnic Teachers' Pay Revision file (which okays PB-4 for all existing Sel. Gr. Lecturer + 3 Years) will be cleared by MHRD on or before 24 Dec. 2009.
So all of you get full 1 week to celebrate the success!
So cheer up all the teachers! Start preparations for the fun. Cheers !
On PALA website the news is
"PRC-2006 file is sent by AICTE to MHRD for approval."
Its unfortunate that some person are making fun by posting misleading news on this hub. I request to all of us that only relevant material, discussions should be posted.
Proposals of the Pay revision committee-2006 are as follows 1)Lecturer:PB3+4500 AGP 2)Sr.Le/Sr.scale:PB3+6500 AGP 3)Sel.Gr/HOD : PB4+6000 AGP 4) Principal :PB4+8000 AGP other allowances on parwith UGC AIFPTO has decided to represent to MHRD for anhancing AGP on parwith UGC
Proposals of the Pay revision committee-2006 are as follows 1)Lecturer:PB3+4500 AGP 2)Sr.Le/Sr.scale:PB3+6500 AGP 3)Sel.Gr/HOD : PB4+6000 AGP 4) Principal :PB4+8000 AGP other allowances on parwith UGC AIFPTO has decided to represent to MHRD for anhancing AGP on parwith UGC
AICTE PAY SCALES UP TO DATE
Proposals of the Pay revision committee-2006 are as follows 1)Lecturer:PB3+4500 AGP 2)Sr.Le/Sr.scale:PB3+6500 AGP 3)Sel.Gr/HOD : PB4+6000 AGP 4) Principal :PB4+8000 AGP other allowances on parwith UGC AIFPTO has decided to represent to MHRD for anhancing AGP on parwith UGC
SOURCE:AIFPTO
request to all. let us not accept anything less than ugc
unity and strike seems to be the only solution
request to all. let us not accept anything less than ugc
unity and strike seems to be the only solution
You are right ggh.
We should not allow degradition of payscales.
I think AIPFTO will work in the direction of prevention of degradation. We must support AIPFTO.
Whats" about designation? Is there any change?
AICTE PAY SCALES UPDATES:
New proposals of pay revision committee-2006 are as follows
1)Lecturer:PB3+4500 AGP
2)Sr.Scale Lect./Sr.Lect.:PB3+6500 AGP
)Sel.Gr/HOD : PB4+6000 AGP
4) Principal :PB4+8000 AGP other allowances on parwith UGC
Source:Highly Placed Sources in the MHRD, New Delhi and Hyd.
Dear Friends,
Ignore whatever BALAJEE SANGANI says. The fact remain that AICTE has sent the its revised polytechnic payscales file to MHRD for consent. The pay scales are EXACTLY at par with UGC and Engg College Teachers.
But for the same scales to be finally accepted they have put a very strange condition.
No one should read and write any nasty comments about MHRD, AICTE, NCS, AIFPTO and AGOTE on the following website: http://hubpages.com/hub/Revised-AICTE-Pay-Scales now on.
If anybody writes anything bad then the payscales would be reduced by 10% for every such post.
So now be carefull or else we might take payscales lesser than that of a peon in some school. Promise me to behave like those Gandhi's 4 goats telling depicting Never Say Bad, Never Hear Bad and Never See Bad and Never Think Bad.
Dear Friends,
Ignore whatever BALAJEE SANGANI says. The fact remain that AICTE has sent the its revised polytechnic payscales file to MHRD for consent. The pay scales are EXACTLY at par with UGC and Engg College Teachers.
But for the same scales to be finally accepted they have put a very strange condition.
No one should read and write any nasty comments about MHRD, AICTE, NCS, AIFPTO and AGOTE on the following website: http://hubpages.com/hub/Revised-AICTE-Pay-Scales now on.
If anybody writes anything bad then the payscales would be reduced by 10% for every such post.
So now be carefull or else we might take payscales lesser than that of a peon in some school. Promise me to behave like those Gandhi's 4 goats telling depicting Never Say Bad, Never Hear Bad and Never See Bad and Never Think Bad.
Hi
"Very Reliable Source in MHRD, New Delhi says"
You funny fellow! Do not post such immature comments.
PALA website is flashing the news given by Balaji.
www.palaap.org
Achievement of PB-4 scale for Selection Grade/Head is commendable and heartfully congratulate the Andhra Pradesh Polytechnic Association and its office bearers and the Delhi Polytechnic Association and its associates Shivaramu and his batch. The difference in the grade pay is par below and even a Polytechnic college Principal is below that of a Associate Professor. Probably the PRC committee has not taken into account that more than 25 % of staff in Andhra Pradesh and probably all India have Ph.D and probably 50 % staff will get their Ph.D by 2012. This difference in pay will cause exodus from Polytechnic to Universities. It should be brought to the notice of the PRC and the HRD ministry that Polytechnics in India are gradually turning in Polytechnic Universities and probably by 2020 Bachelor/Master Degrees in Engineering/Humanities can be started. The HRD Ministry should guide/motivate the Polytechnic's to turn into allround rural technical institutes
Achievement of PB-4 scale for Selection Grade/Head is commendable and heartfully congratulate the Andhra Pradesh Polytechnic Association and its office bearers and the Delhi Polytechnic Association and its associates Shivaramu and his batch. The difference in the grade pay is par below and even a Polytechnic college Principal is below that of a Associate Professor. Probably the PRC committee has not taken into account that more than 25 % of staff in Andhra Pradesh and probably all India have Ph.D and probably 50 % staff will get their Ph.D by 2012. This difference in pay will cause exodus from Polytechnic to Universities. It should be brought to the notice of the PRC and the HRD ministry that Polytechnics in India are gradually turning in Polytechnic Universities and probably by 2020 Bachelor/Master Degrees in Engineering/Humanities can be started. The HRD Ministry should guide/motivate the Polytechnic's to turn into allround rural technical institutes
the news is very disturbing. kindly let us know the latest from AIFPTO. are we going ahead with these scales. shame for us. AIFPTO dont forget ypur target " not less than UGC"
GOVT. wants us to go for strike.
DEAR POLY FRIENDS,
Achievement of PB-4 scale for Selection Grade/Head is commendable and heartfully congratulate the Andhra Pradesh Polytechnic Association and its office bearers and the Delhi Polytechnic Association and its associates Shivaramu and his batcH. BVR NARASIMHA RAO,LIBRARIAN,GMRP,KARIMNAGAR,AP
DEAR POLY FRIENDS,
Achievement of PB-4 scale for Selection Grade/Head is commendable and heartfully congratulate the Andhra Pradesh Polytechnic Association and its office bearers and the Delhi Polytechnic Association and its associates Shivaramu and his batcH. BVR NARASIMHA RAO,LIBRARIAN,GMRP,KARIMNAGAR,AP
the grade pays recommanded by the prc are less than grade pays of the equivalent state scales in maharashtra.
go to hello,aa-------------
This is highly undesirable, If any thing is less than UGC we must protest it
All of us must post grievances to H'ble Minister HRD Shri Kapil Sibal through email at
hrm@nic.in
kapilsibal@hotmail.com ;
kapil@kapilsibal.com;
ksibal@sansad.nic.in
and send a copy to MHRD officials
Vibha Puri Das,Secretary secy.dhe@nic.in
Ashok Thakur,Additional Secretary athakur.edu@nic.in
Ms. Pratima Dikshit, Director p.dikshit.edu@nic.in
Let their mail boxes be full with emails .
This is highly undesirable, If any thing is less than UGC we must protest it
All of us must post grievances to H'ble Minister HRD Shri Kapil Sibal through email at
hrm@nic.in
kapilsibal@hotmail.com ;
kapil@kapilsibal.com;
ksibal@sansad.nic.in
and send a copy to MHRD officials
Vibha Puri Das,Secretary secy.dhe@nic.in
Ashok Thakur,Additional Secretary athakur.edu@nic.in
Ms. Pratima Dikshit, Director p.dikshit.edu@nic.in
Let their mail boxes be full with emails .
Must protest and send grievances to H'ble President and H'ble Prime minister of India through their official portals. The addresses are
http://helpline.rb.nic.in/GrievanceNew.aspx
In PALAAP.ORG website the following information is flashing.
1)Lecturer:PB3+4500 AGP 2)Sr.Scale Lect./Sr.Lect.:PB3+6500 AGP
3)Sel.Gr/HOD : PB4+6000 AGP 4) Principal :PB4+8000 AGP
I would like to get some clarification regarding Sel.Grde i.e., 12000-420-18300 (Old Scale)----- Proposed Scale PB4+6000 AGP is given.
Is the mentioned above scale is meant for Selection Grade+3years category (OR) Is the beginning Scale of selection grade. Please clarify……..
In the news flashed by PALAAP.ORG website ,Sr.scale/Sr.lec gets6500 as AGP where as Sel.Gr Lec/HOD gets 6000 as AGP. How is it possible?Higher post gets lower AGP!!!!!!! MOREOVER for 8000-275-13500,(prerevised)scale sixth pay commissions'revised scale isPB3+5400 as grade pay.But in PALAAP for Lecturer AGP is given as4500.This GP is meant for PB2.Another vital query is raised by Mr.Balajee(NANDIGAMA)
please clarify.
I came to know that above payscales on the palaap.org is not confirmed. Probably the correct news will be known on Monday and I am very hopeful that AICTE would have recommended lesser than UGC for polytechnic teachers. Lets wait till monday for the big news
Dear friends,
Please visit www.agoted.org for latest.
There is no news about revised pays scales on www.agoted.org. except request to avoid trusting rumors.
21st Dec'2009 3:15 PM IST
This communication may please be treated as a personal communication and has no official bearing with AIFPTO,AGOTE or any other state Polytechnic Association.
1) The news that Polytechnic Teachers are placed in the AGP
as follows is absolutely correct(as per the AICTE
report submitted to the MHRD)
Lect : PB3 + AGP4500
Sr. Lect/Lect Sel Gr (Less that 3 yrs):PB3 + AGP6500
Lect Sel Gr+ 3 yrs : PB4 + AGP 6000
2) The same AGP structure has been recommended for the
Degree Engg College as per the AICTE recommendations.
3) MHRD is still diliberating on this issue and may take an
additional few days to get out of this mess(if at all
they are able to)
4) Some important officals of MHRD are out of station and
shall return on 23rd Dec'2009. Once we are able to talk
to them and know their view point, subsequently, we can
plan our future course of action.
Thanks and Regards to ALL
This news was already given by AIFPTO. What's new in this? Just keep away from Pay Revision activities. See www.agoted.org and act accordingly
I called a GENERAL BODY MEETING of all the Polytechnic Faculty of Delhi on the 27th Nov'2009 at Pusa Polytechnic. To my utter dismay only about 8 to 10(out of a total of 300 plus members) lecturers attended this meeting. Also only 1 more executive body member attended the GBM. The behaviour of members who attended the meeting was also very bad towards me. Since the number of members who attended the GBM was very less, I immediately termed the meeting as " an Interactive session" instead of the announced GBM.
Now people are threatening me to bring a no-confidence motion against me. Please help me . I shall not leave the "chair" no matter how much I am humiliated .
Dear AGOTE friends,
Please do not believe postings in my name. I am only after Shiva since he is after the Pay Revision. I too will get some experience to contest next elections. Some people owe me some amount. I can collect only if Shiva agrees. Please help me in this matter. Please give money to shiva in cash only, not cheques.
Thanks and regards to all
Mr Bannerjee please comment about your GBM. Are the statistics correct??? Please answer in yes or no? If no please provide the correct details.
Mr Bannerjee please comment about your GBM. Are the statistics correct??? Please answer in yes or no? If no please provide the correct details.
Why should I comment? Let Shiva comment as the President of AGOTE. Or some stupid on his behalf comment. Recently he is under the influence of a well known business man and doing the rounds in MHRD & AICTE to promote his friends' products. Shiva is slowly turning into a salesman for this businessman.
Dr. Banerjee says "The same AGP structure has been recommended for the Degree Engg College as per the AICTE recommendations."
But MHRD recommendations to AICTE are already decided and published. They are exactly as per UGC. So Dr. Banerjee is misleading all of us here.
Dr. Banerjee says "The same AGP structure has been recommended for the Degree Engg College as per the AICTE recommendations."
But MHRD recommendations to AICTE are already decided and published. They are exactly as per UGC. So Dr. Banerjee is misleading all of us here.
Dear Pol Khol,
AICTE has succumbed to pressures from Private Engg. College Mgmts and recommended less AGP to Degree level Engg teachers. Polytechnic teachers are suffering due to this decision as AICTE cannot recommend more for them/
Dear,Dr. Banerjee,
In that case CBI should again raid aicte office for fresh round of arrests,and put the culprits behind bars.
Regards.
S.BABA
Instead of blaming each other, please post the authentic information about the payscales and the expected dates of notification by aicte. Even after the notification, will private managements implement the scales without hike in fees?
Dear Dr. Banerjee,
Are you very much sure about the news of even Engg Degree teachers getting less AGP than UGC counterparts?
When do u expect the AICTE notifications for Degree and Polytechnics to be released?
For your knowledge the MHRD notifications (mhrd website) for Degree Engg teachers is already released where AGP is at par with UGC!
If both are travelling in the same boat why dont you take union leaders for Degree teachers into confidence and try to restore AGP to levels at least at par with that of UGC if not more?
I agree with S. Baba, however you should have some concrete evidence if you want to approach CBI.
Dear Dr. Banerjee,
Are you very much sure about the news of even Engg Degree teachers getting less AGP than UGC counterparts?
When do u expect the AICTE notifications for Degree and Polytechnics to be released?
For your knowledge the MHRD notifications (mhrd website) for Degree Engg teachers is already released where AGP is at par with UGC!
If both are travelling in the same boat why dont you take union leaders for Degree teachers into confidence and try to restore AGP to levels at least at par with that of UGC if not more?
I agree with S. Baba, however you should have some concrete evidence if you want to approach CBI.
Dear Dr. Banerjee,
When are you online usually? Can we chat online for the updates on say Yahoo? I was waiting for your reply? What is the your latest update?
Dear Dr. Banerjee,
When are you online usually? Can we chat online for the updates on say Yahoo? I was waiting for your reply? What is the your latest update?
All are making fool of each other
Dear SB/Pol Khol,
AIFPTO is already representing for enhancement of AGP for Polytechnic teachers on par with UGC Pay Scales. Engg. College teachers can contact our leaders on aifpto@gmail.com
dg says:
3 weeks ago
A very rare aicte notification for the V pay for engineering diploma.
I found it after full one year , all must see.
It is not even on aicte web site, probably not in Aicte records also and with our leaders also.
http://dst.bih.nic.in/circulars/AICTE_NOTIFICATION