Revised AICTE Pay Scales
74After several months of hectic struggle, the MHRD has finally released the notification of sixth pay scales for the University teachers. However, the apex body, for Engineering education, AICTE is yet to notify the latest developments. Kindly voice your opinions/comments/suggestions in taking forward this issue.
Government has notified on Dec' 31, 2008 the revised pay scales for teachers on in Universityies and colleges. Highlights are shown below.
- Only three designations in respect of teachers namely, Assistant Professors, Associate Professors and Professors.
- Designations of Library and Physical Education Personnel at various levels.
- Ph.D. is must for promotion & designation of professor. This shall, however, not affect those who are already designated as 'Professor'.
- The pay of teachers shall be fixed in two pay bands of Rs. 15600-39100 and Rs. 37400-67000 with appropriate "Academic Grade Pay" (AGP).
- The number of posts of Professors in a UG College shall be equivalent to 10 percent of the number of posts-of Associate Professors in that College.
- There shall be as many posts of Professors in each PG College as the number of Departments in that College.
- approval of the UGC is must for creating new departments
- Up to 10% of the posts of Professors in universities shall be in the higher Academic Grade Pay of Rs. 12000 with eligibility conditions to be prescribed by the UGC.
- NET shall be compulsory for appointment at the entry level of Assistant Professor subject to the exemptions to the degree of Ph.D.
- NET shall not be required for such Masters' programs in disciplines for which there is no NET.
Revised Pay Scales
- Persons entering the teaching profession in Universities and Colleges shall be designated as Assistant Professors and shall be placed in the Pay Band of Rs.15600 - 39100 with AGP of Rs,6000.
- Lecturers in the pre-revised scale of Rs. 8000-13500, shall be re-designated as Assistant Professors with the said AGP of Rs. 6000.
- An Assistant Professor having Ph.D. with 4 years service, M. Phil with 5 years, and without Ph.D. or M. Phil with 6 years service shall be eligible, for moving up to AGP of Rs. 7000.
- Lecturers (senior scale) in pre-revised scale of Rs. 10,000-15200 shall be re-designated as Assistant Professor, and shall be fixed at appropriate stage in Pay Band of Rs.15600-39100 with AGP of Rs. 7000.
- Assistant Professors with completed service of 5 years at the AGP of Rs. 7000 shall be eligible to move up to the AGP of Rs. 8000.
- Posts of Associate Professor shall be in the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000, with AGP of Rs.9000.
- Directly recruited Associate Professors shall be placed in the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000 with an AGP of Rs. 9000, at the appropriate stage in the Pay Band in terms of the conditions of appointment.
- Readers and Lecturers (Selection Grade) who have completed 3 years in the current pay scale of Rs. 12000-18300 on 1.1.2006 shall be placed in Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000 with AGP Pay of Rs 9000 and shall be re-designated as Associate Professor.
- Readers and Lecturers (Selection Grade) who had not completed three years in the pay scale of Rs. 12000-18300 on 1.1.2006 shall be placed at the appropriate stage in the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-39100 with AGP of Rs. 8000 till they complete 3 years of service in the grade of Lecturer (Selection Grade)/Reader, and thereafter shall be placed in the higher Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 and accordingly re-designated as Associate Professor.
- Readers/ Lecturers (Selection Grade) in service at present shall continue to be designated as Lecturer (Selection Grade) or Readers, as the case may be, until they are placed in the Pay Band of Rs. 37,400-67000 and re-designated as Associate Professor
- Assistant Professors completing 3 years of teaching in the AGP of Rs. 8000 shall be eligible to move to the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000 with AGP of Rs. 9000 and to be designated as Associate Professor.
- Associate Professor completing 3 years of service in the AGP of Rs . 9000 and possessing a Ph.D . degree in the relevant discipline shall be eligible to be appointed and designated as Professor
- The Pay Band for the post of Professors shall be Rs .37400-67000 with AGP of Rs. 10000.
- The pay of a directly recruited Professor shall be fixed at a stage not below Rs. 43000 in the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000, with the applicable AGP of Rs. 10000.
- Ten percent of the posts of Professors in a university shall be in the higher AGP of Rs. 12000,
- Eligibility for appointment as a Professor in the higher Academic Grade Pay shall be as may be laid down by the UGC,
- No person appointed directly as Professor in the AGP of Rs. 12000 shall be fixed at a stage less than Rs. 48000 along with the AGP.
- Discretionary award of advance increments for those who enter the profession as Associate Professors or Professors with higher merit shall be within the competence of the appropriate authority of the concerned University or recruiting institution.
Professors in Under Graduate and Post Graduate Colleges:
- Ten percent of the number of sanctioned posts of Associate Professor in an Under Graduate College shall be that of Professors
i) provided that there shall not be more than one post of Professor in each Department;
ii) and provided further that One-fourth (25%) of the posts of Professor in UG Colleges shall be directly recruited or filled on deputation by eligible teachers
iii) the remaining three-fourths (75%) of posts of Professors shall be filled by merit promotion from among eligible Associate Professors of the relevant department of the Under Graduate College. Identification of posts of Professor in an Under Graduate College for being filled through direct recruitment/deputation shall be within the competence of the University acting in consultation with the College.
iv) Where the number of posts of Professor worked out as a percentage of the number of posts of Associate Professor for merit promotion or direct recruitment/ deputation is not an integer, the same shall be rounded off to the next higher integer.
- There shall be one post of Professor in each Department of a Post Graduate and shall be subject to the same criterion for selection/ appointment as that of Professors in Universities,
- provided that One-fourth (25%) of the posts of Professor shall be filled on deputation/direct recruitment from among eligible teachers
ii) the remaining three-fourths (75%) of posts shall be filled through merit promotion from among the eligible Associate Professors in the relevant department of the Post Graduate College. Identification of posts of Professor in a Post Graduate College for being filled through direct recruitment/deputation shall be within the competence of the University acting in consultation with the College.
iii) Where the number of posts of professor for merit promotion or direct recruitment/ deputation worked out as a percentage of the total number of posts in a Post Graduate College is not an integer, the same shall be rounded off to the next higher integer
Pro-Vice-Chancellor
- Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 with AGP of Rs. 10000 or Rs. 12000, as the case may be, along with a Special Allowance of Rs.4000 per month, subject to the condition that the sum total of pay in the Pay Band, the Academic Grade Pay and the Special Allowance shall not exceed Rs. 80,000.
Vice Chancellor
- a fixed pay of Rs. 75000 along with a Special Allowance of Rs. 5000 per month.
Principal of Under Graduate Colleges
- the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 with AGP of Rs.10000, plus a Special Allowance of Rs. 2000 per month.
Principal of Post Graduate Colleges
- the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000 with AGP of Rs.10,000, plus a Special Allowance of Rs. 3000 per month.
Other terms and conditions:
Increments:
- Annual/advance increment @ 3% of the sum total of pay in the relevant Pay Band and the AGP as applicable for the stage in the Pay Band.
- The number of additional increment(s) on placement at each higher stage of AGP shall be as per the existing scheme of increment on.promotion from lower Pay Scale to higher Pay Scale;
- however, in view of the considerable raise in effective pay between the two Pay Bands, there shall be no additional increment on movement from the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-39100 to the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000.
Pay fixation
- As recommended by 6th Central Pay Commission
Allowances:
- at par with those accepted by the Central Government for Central Government employees on the recommendations of 6th Central Pay Commission and shall be applicable from 1.09.2008.
.Study Leave:
- University Grants Commission shall revise its guidelines in respect of granting study leave with pay for acquiring M. Phil etc. and Ph.D. in the relevant discipline while in service by relaxing the number of years to be put in after entry while keeping in mind the availability of vacant positions for teachers and other cadres in colleges and universities, so that a teacher and other cadres entering service without Ph.D. or M.Phil. or higher qualification could be encouraged to acquire these qualifications in the relevant disciplines at the earliest rather than at a later stage of the career.
Research Promotion Grant:
- University Grants Commission shall prescribe a scheme with appropriate guidelines for providing by way of appropriate 'start up grants' to teachers and other cadres taking up research in all disciplines.
Age of Superannuation:
- In order to meet the situation arising out of shortage of teachers in universities and other teaching institutions and the consequent vacant positions therein, the age of superannuation for teachers in Central Educational Institutions has already been enhanced to sixty five years, vide the Department of Higher Education letter No.F.No.1- 19/2006-U.II dated 23.3.2007, for those involved in class room teaching in order to attract eligible persons to the teaching career and to retain teachers in service for a longer period.
- Consequent on upward revision of the age of superannuation of teachers, the Central Government has already authorized the Central Universities to enhance the age of superannuation of Vice- Cencellors of Central Universities from 65 years to 70 years,
- Subject to availability of vacant positions and fitness, teachers shall also be reemployed on contract appointment beyond the age of sixty five years up to the age of seventy years. Re-employment beyond the age of superannuation shall, however, be done selectively, for a limited period of 3 years in the first instance and then for another further period of 2 years purely on the basis of merit, experience, area of specialization and peer group review and only against available vacant positions without affecting selection or promotion prospects of eligible teachers.
- Whereas the enhancement of the age of superannuation for teachers engaged in class room teaching is intended to attract eligible persons to a career in teaching and to meet the shortage of teachers by retaining teachers in service for a longer period,
Pension:
- For teachers and other cadres in UGC maintained institutions in receipt of pension, the Central Government rules for pension and gratuity as applicable to Central Government employees shall be applicable
- In view of the new pension scheme effective from 1.1.2004, no new cases of conversion to pension scheme shall be allowed.
Family Pension:
- Family Pension facilities as approved by the Central Government in respect of Central Government Employees on the recommendations of Sixth CPC shall be available to teachers and other cadres in Central Universities and other UGC maintained institutions who are eligible for such Pension at present.
Additional Quantum of Pension to senior pensioners:
- The facility of additional quantum of pension accepted by the Central Government on the recommendation of 6th CPC for senior pensioners of the Central Government shall be extended to persons who are or were in teaching and other cadres on attaining the age of eighty years if they are already in pension scheme in Central Universities and other UGC maintained institutions.
Gratuity and Encashment of Leave :
- Facilities of gratuity and encashment of leave accepted by the Central Government on the recommendation of 6th CPC for Central Government employees shall be extended to teachers and other cadres in Central Universities and other UGC maintained institutions.
Ex-Gratia Compensation :
- Families of teachers and other cadres who die in performance of their bona fide duties shall be compensated in the same manner as similarly placed families of Central Government Employees.
Provident Fund:
- In view of the present policy in regard to Contributory Provident Fund, the status quo shall continue.
Consultancy Assignments:
- University Grants Commission shall work out a suitable model, for which the models of revenue sharing between institutions and consultant-teachers prevailing in the Indian Institutes of Technology, Indian Institutes of Management and other institutions may be taken into consideration.
Anomalies of the last PRC:
- Anomalies and unimplemented recommendations of the last Pay Review Committee, if any, shall be examined by the University Grants Commission in consultation with the Ministry of Human Resource Development.
- Notwithstanding anything in the foregoing clauses, those who have already availed the benefits of advance increments for possessing Ph.D./ M.Phil. at the entry level under the earlier scheme shall not be entitled to the benefit of advance increments under this Scheme.
- For posts at the entry level where no such advance increments were admissible for possessing Ph.D/ M.Phil. under the earlier scheme, the benefit of five advance increments for possessing Ph.D./ M.Phil. shall be available to only those appointments which have been made on or after the coming into force of this Scheme.
- Teachers, Library and Physical Education cadres who have already availed the benefits of increments as per existing policy for acquiring Ph.D./M.Phil while in service, would not be entitled to benefits under this Scheme.
Increments:
- Each annual increment shall be equivalent to 3% of the sum total of pay in the relevant Pay Band and the AGP as applicable for the stage in the Pay Band.
- Each advance increment shall also be at the rate of 3% of the sum total of pay in the relevant Pay Band and the AGP as applicable and shall be non-compoundable.
- The number of additional increment(s) on placement at each higher stage of AGP shall be as per the existing scheme of increment on.promotion from lower Pay Scale to higher Pay Scale; however, in view of the considerable raise in effective pay between the two Pay Bands, there shall be no additional increment on movement from the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-39100 to the Pay Band of Rs. 37400-67000.
- All issues relating to grant of advance increments to teachers engaged in engineering/ technical courses in the university system shall be subject to recommendations of the Committee separately constituted by the Central Government for pay review of teachers in technical education.
Pay `fixation formula'
- The pay 'fixation formula' recommended by 6th Central Pay Commission as accepted by the Central Government shall be adopted for teachers and equivalent positions in the Library and Physical Education Cadres.
Allowances
- at par with those accepted by the Central Government for Central Government employees on the recommendations of 6th Central Pay Commission and shall be applicable from 1.09.2008.
- For teachers and equivalent positions in Library and Physical Education cadres the rates of allowances as applicable to Central Government Group 'A' employees shall be adopted.
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Prof mn is absolutely correct.
The issue is we lack unity and self-confidence and courage to fight against the denied justice of the extreme delay in payment of 6th pay.
announce at last...
announce at last...
Contact ALL INDIA ENGG COLLEGE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION (aiecta -WHICH IS IN THE MAKING) state engg colleges unions for taking up the issue of AICTE pay scale revision and other relevant problems related to Engg faculty:
aiecta@yahoo.com
where all our actve leaders gone? Why have they all stopped posting information, in this hour great need? We all require their assistance and advise. Pl come and post factual position and guide us.Our Federation office bearers should give information on statments shared by Mr.Crusedor/Dingdong.They given disturbing information. At lest somebody should clarify
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Aicte in its last pay recommendation1986 it has omitted the the technical supporting staff saying state govt. do not apply it but it should force the state govt.to implement its recommendations in its compleate form which was originally recommended in 1976 it should courageiously recommend it pay scales to all technical staff working in the Engg. and Technical Institutes and follow on to implement in its total form then ther willbe meaning for AICTE otherwise what is the use of having a concil like this, in karnataka the Hon,ble High court has been recommended to apply the pay scales technical supporting staff and state govt has also intended to but the AICTE
so far not responding atleast now it will intiaite to recommnedend and implement in its total form
ny suggestion is AICTE should announce the pay commission
report immediately and it is getting delayed inordinately. One more suggestion is those Engg college who offered UG courses need not compel the staff to do Phd for getting
professor post. Due to this the quality of Phd is getting down and many people are doing doctorsl program due to getting prmotion and not otherwise. As per National knowledge Commission report by Prof Anand Director IITM
UG colleges need not insist Phd for professor post. More over in CSE and ECE branches it is very difficilt to get guides for research and AICTE must consider all the points before fixing qualifications for Professor post.
I request all ENGINEERING COLLEGE TEACHERS to observe PEN DOWN strike from August 17th io August 22 as a protest week for not announcing REVISED 6th PAY REVISION SCALES by AICTE. KINDLY LET US UNITE AND SHOW OUR PROTEST.
No News @ pay scale? Why all are silent?
It's getting very delayed by AICTE.. As, so much resentment in Govt. Engg. colleges of Punjab
No web site is giving any information on AICTE sixth pay scales. Pl let me know if anybody is aware about it.
I am totally confused and frustrated too. Few days back, Prof.N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO wrote in this hub that upto 31st July had been extended for submission of Govordhan Mehta's report regarding Polytechnic college faculties' pay revision and as far as I know that our degree engg. college report has also not yet been placed to the cabinet ..... then how these two reports have been rejected by the cabinet and can be formed another new committee?????????? Is it only for NIT (as they were not happy with the Mehta's report) ??????? Therefore I am requesting to Dear PROF.VARGHESE or AB or Asutosh (who have written this news)to write in detail along with the source of your information. Otherwise it is very much confusing. kindly don't spread any rumor among the already depressed faculty groups.
I HEARED THAT A DEPARTMENT CAN GET 15 LAKS FROM AICTE . CAN ANY ONE EXPLAIN ME ABOUT THAT
Mr NCS,
Ealier you have stated that Prof Goverdhan Mehta had submitted his report. Now you are saying that he is asking for extension till 31st of July. I am totally confused. Please, let us know that report has been submitted or not.
earlier it was informed by you that prof Goverdhan Mehta had submitted his repot. Now you are stating that he is asking for extension till 31st of July. I am totally confused. Please, clearly let us know, report has been submitted or not.
Sorry deleted as it was a re-post.
Dear All,
While demanding parity in pay scales with that of Degree Engg. teachers we must also seek parity in the designations as well or else we will loose much in the longer run.
So we need to support Mr. N.Chandra Shekhar in his efforts and act as per his guidance. Also we can create awareness of these updates n facts with the teachers from our colleges and polytechnics.
Its indeed amazing to see so many technical teachers exchanging views on this blog, everyone is giving suggestions since months, a handful of Babus are keeping all intelligents of IITs, IIMs, and NITs and other institutions, on waiting. It seems that our tolerance level has increased to such a great extent that we are used to everything...We have simply forgot to put claims for our rights (which should be given to us at right time... After all we certainly are not beggers...!!!
Dear BALBEER,
Think of Sixth Pay and not pension!!!!
one thing is sure.That is,our next pay revision(7TH) will be in A.D2025
Here, I have another news :
MUMBAI: Around 30,000 university and college teachers across Maharashtra will go on indefinite 'cease work' strike from tuesday .
Source : THE TIMES OF INDIA.
If the technical teachers (at the Diploma level) are not redesignated as their
counterparts in Universities/IIT/NIT, then it shall be another nail in the coffin of
the polytechnic teachers. This shall be more visible in the next pay commission.
We all should realise and accept the fact that it shall be in our interest
to have comparable designations with UGC/IIT etc. Remember we (technical teachers) got PB4(after3 years in PB3) only because of the mass agitation
by the UGC teachers.Lets not take this aspect lightly.Mr. Chandrasekhar
is working hard.We request him to kindly enquire about this aspect.
Thanks
Please refer to the url below for a valuable news from The Telegraph
Please refer to the above url for a valuable news from The Telegraph
Dear, NCS
It is learnt that MEHTA committee has not recommended the designation for Polytechnic Teachers. It will remain same as lecturer or senior lecturer or lecturer (selection grade). Do you have any information ?.
where is malkhani?
THANKS TO MR N.CHANDRA SHEKAR FOR THE LATEST STATUS.
Dear friends,
You can see the proposals of All India Federation of Polytechnic Teachers' Organisations (AIFPTO) on the Federation website www.aifpto.org or on the website www.palaap.org which is the website of Polytechnic All Lecturers Association (PALA) of Andhra Pradesh. These are the proposals submitted to the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee on Dt. 29-05-2009 by the AIFPTO delegates at New Delhi. Send suggestions to aifpto@gmail.com or rohini64@yahoo.com
Dear N. Chandra Shekhar,General Secretary, AIFPTO Thanks a lot for the news on development on the issue. What AICTE scales do AIFPTO demands for polytechnic teachers? Will they be the same as that of AICTE pay scales of Engg. College teachers?
And there are plentyfull forums to discuss the case of issue of Tenth Class Exam issues. Dont do it here. One should always follow the decorum. In case of any doubt read the title of the community. Please keep posting latest news as they come up. No hearsay please.
We should be united and let the Govt. know the seriousess of the issue. I suggest that all the technical teachers should send a mass fax message to AICTE, MHRD and the office of the PM at once on a specific day. This would attract the officials and the honorouable Ministers concerened. The teachers associations should coordinate this move.
Dear all,
Today morning, I have met Ms. D. Purandeswari, Hon'ble Minister of State for HRD along with a delegation of Polytechnic teachers at her Party office at Visakhapatnam. I have submitted a representation to the Minister expressing our frustration on the delay in announcing the Revised Pay scales to the Polytechnic teachers. she too admitted that there is a delay and promised that she would take up the issue as soon as she is back in Delhi later this week. I am in touch with her office regularly and would post if anything worthwhile is known.
Mr K.M ,UR RIGHT. NOW THERE IS URGENT NEED TO FORCE MHRD TO ACCEPT THE MEHATA'S REPORT AND MAKE AICTE TO ANNOUNCE IT .
don't distract. w're discussing about aicte's 6th pay
To, R Jain
Yes, I took the matter from your blog...I am extremely sorry for not mentioning the source. The intention was only to inform the news to fellow colleagues.. But yes, I understand, I should mention the source.
What is the latest position of aicte pay for technical teachers?Please inform us if you have any information regarding this.
A very good idea has been suggested by Ms.Lakshmi. Let us all be united under one association. Then, we can able to provide solutions to all of our problems. We can able to easily get the attention of our politicians.
I do agree with you Rajkumar. The MHRD is cornering us . We should first set up a confederation of all assosiations of technical institutions & Polytechniques in the country and show a united face to the MHRD. Using the media to highlight the apathy of the government towards us is very essential. It is criminal on the part of the government to drag the feet for so long to make a decision. If this decision-making keeps on going at this pace the next set of state elections , model code of conduct etc,etc will start again and the government wil go into hibernation. Forming a confederation and using the media to highlight our plight is the need of the hour.
While searching on the net I got a fitment formula issued by MHRD please visit to get an idea http://www.education.nic.in/UHE/fittab.pdf
in Rajasthan , RTU rajasthan technical univesityhas declared VI pay for technical institutes.
http://www.rtu.ac.in/events.html
in Rajasthan , RTU rajasthan technical univesityhas declared VI pay for technical institutes.
http://www.rtu.ac.in/events.html
Dear Sanket
No harm if you are collecting news from other's blog.But you should write the source
Why don't all the technical teachers be united to show our resentment to all those concerned in delaying the Sixth Pay due to us? We have to register our protest. First, we must seek the general media attention to this issue. Then only, the Government will understand our strength.
Some real saddists did post absurd news about mehta disapperance and MHRD inaction. Indeed it is hearterning to know that Mehta did submit his report last week and discussions are on. If somebody can throw us some light regarding the recommendations or a link to the recommendations it will be greatly helpful to clear the doubts among many. I also heard the news that Chandrasekhar, General Secretary got the information from Delhi that the report has been submitted. It is heartening to know that Chandrasekhar is doing his best by keeping regular contact with MHRD Minister Smt Purandeswari Devi. Lets hope to hear the best.. Chandrasekhar, General Secretary can be contacted on his mobile at 98485-36871 (AP Idea)
AICTE Pay Revision : Report of Prof.Mehta committee for Engg. & Polytechnic institutions submitted to MHRD
N Chandra Shekhar General Secretary, AIFPTO, have contacted Sri Pratap Singh, Under Secretary, MHRD on 9th July 09 and was informed by him that the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee reports have been submitted to MHRD. No decision has yet been taken on the report by the Ministry. Discussions are being held in the MHRD regarding the same.
Are we spineless?
Everyone should send protest to HRD minister.
dear all,there are some saddists writing in this hub.absolute absurdity has been sent by someone in last couple of days. prof.Govardhanmehta submitted his report last week.discussions are going on in mhrd office.report will be finalised and published shortly.nothing to worry
Whatever be the source of this Malkani committee constitution report for re-examining the VIth pay commission packagae for Poor Technical faculty, the rusty vision of this government should be clear to us.
I personally feel after Nehru and Indira Jee no PM of this country had/has the vision for a progresive academic environment. Political compulsions of the governments after Indira blurred the vision of the successive governments for long term affirmative goals of technical education.
We academicians also helped them in further polluting this. We do not have enough moral strength to talk for our unity and to speak to the political representatives for our genuine demands for VIth pay hike.
Are we not facing the price hike problems as those Babus who got the VIth pay hike before this election. The UGC teachers are better united. Shame on us.
I dont think we are going to be given the pay hike in near future. Government is not bothered for us as the private engineering college involved in this technical education business are much in number than us and are in some way affecting this delay through poitical linkages. Pay hike for these pvt colleges will be a burden and will reduce the political CHANDA amount.
Any information is authentic or not we don't know. so, please provide the source of information regarding AICTE new pay scale.
Any information is authentic or not we don't know. so, please provide the source of information regarding AICTE new pay scale.
mehtaji ka anthim meeting hua kya?
Dear NCS,
Is it your information authentic? we are getting confused by other informations in this site. Please only provide us the authentic information. If any one of you have any authentic information, kindly inform us through this site the latest information. we are all in deep anxiety.
what about malkhani?
Dear NCS,
Which Mehta Committee report you are talking about? Is it for IIT/IIM/NIT OR is it for AICTE approved engineering colleges? Because, in this blog few people have mentioned that Mehta Committee report has been rejected by MHRD. Everyone is getting confused.
Dear all,
The Goverdhan Mehta Committee reports have been submitted to MHRD. Discussions are going on in MHRD for the last few days on the reports.
No decision has yet been taken.
pay revision for all institutions coming under aicte will be reviewed by prof.s malkhani.a very close fellow to kapil sibal
It is the mehta committe report for iit/iim/nit cancelled?? Or it is the report for other engineering colleges?
prof.varghese
Can you please post the link of the news?
malkhani committee to be constituted with in 2 weeks.let us wait and be patience
prof.mehta was totally dejected and upset.not taking any incalls.
mehta out.28 lakhs lost.a new committee most probably under sachdev malkhani is going to study the deal.mr.malkhani is so pleasing and favourable especially to those for engg wing and also cousin of prof.rastogi,former chairman of ugc pay commission.arjun-kapil rift is the main cause for mehta's rejection(telegraph says)
whats going on?
7th July meeting has been postponed. This was decided as several secrataries of interministerial committee requested for excuses from july 7 meeting.Now the final meeting is going to be in last week of july or first week of august,before mehta's USA visit. If it fails to happen then all of us have to wait till middle of September when Mehta returns. Hope we get our dues before Dipawali....as Dipawali gifts.
7th July meeting has been postponed. This was decided as several secrataries of interministerial committee requested for excuses from july 7 meeting.Now the final meeting is going to be in last week of july or first week of august,before mehta's USA visit. If it fails to happen then all of us have to wait till middle of September when Mehta returns. Hope we get our dues before Dipawali....as Dipawali gifts.
Let us all unite to form a new association of "Sixth Pay Leftouts". We will represent our feelings to the HRD Minister. Wait for a period , then let us register our protest in some manner.
AICTE PAY REVISION BY PROF.MEHTA REJECTED BY INTER-MINISTERIAL COMMITTEE(SOURCE P.T.I)A NEW COMMITTEEE IS GOING TO BE CONSTITUTED BY JULY 15.IT WILL BE GIVEN THREE MONTHS TIME.THE EXPENDITURE FOR MEHTA COMMITTEE COT BY 66 PERCENT.
is there any update for the 7th july meeting? it is really ridiculous..
Any recent updates of IIT/IIM/IIsc pay scale implementation??
Really very disgusting.
Now it is clear to us that mehataji is really reluctant to do anything for the benifit of technical teachers and very indifferent to us which is not tolerable at all.It is also obvious that after july, then August then September then Novem then ..........it will be Assembly Election in west bengal 2011 and we are so spineless that we are wasting our time without any agitation and seeing and waiting for what do they do for us because we are so unorganised and ununited.Dear friends awake and awake , they are making fool us depriving from our right.
dear all,try to understand the reality.There are over 80,000 technical teachers coming under aicte.comprising homoeopathy ayurveda poly technic,dental,pharmacy,nursing other than engg colleges.All of them have to be paid arrears amounting 80000(3.5 lakhs min) that is 28000000000 or two thousand eight hundred crores.our budget allocated 39,000 crores for NREGS OR NATIONAL RURAL EMPLOYMENT GUARENTEE SCHEME ,which made the UPA government to sit in the chair for second consecutive time.Now what the expenditure secratary says is the fund allocated for higher education salary revision could not be met during the fist half of current fiscal year owing to the additional allocation given to NREGS.so it is not the fault of ugc or aicte or mhrd but our great politicians.Very unfortunate to hear that the salary of our medical men who performed successful cardiac surgery of our prime minister are getting salary less than a mazdoor(class three) of indian railways or line man of state electicity board.funny too
mehtaji ka anthim meeting hua kya?
mehtaji ka anthim meeting hua kya?
hey now it's the time to revolt. Enough is enough. We can't wait more.
is the meeting really postponed
Is this just a rubbish joke with the sentiments of teachers?
today's meeting postponed to 28-7-2009.Thakur and Mrs Dixit out of station.
what is the latest of the meeting of the Committee members meeting which was scheduled today???? is this meeting happening or not??
I have also contacted to Mr. Chandrasekhar today. He said the same thing to me also. Now the question is how long will it be taken to submit the report after the meeting of 7th July? Not only that how long MHRD will take to accept it --- GOD only knows.
Dear NCS
thank you for your informations. keep the updates..
regards
Siva, chennai
Dear Friends,
Thank you for your kind information, please go on giving us the latest news as soon as possible whenever anyone of you get it.Because we all are in anxiety as our favorite festival is approaching near.
AICTE Pay Revision : Last meeting of Prof. Mehta committee scheduled on 7 July 09
N Chandra Shekhar,General Secretary, AIFPTO contacted Ms. Pratima Dixit, Director (Technical Cell), MHRD and enquired about the status of Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee Report which was due to be submitted before 30-06-09. She has informed that the last meeting of the Committee members would be held on 07-07-09 to finalise and submit the Report. It was further informed that after the Committee submits its Report, the MHRD would discuss the Report and after approving it would send it to AICTE for Notification. This report does not need the Central Cabinet approval.
This information is from highly placed sources in MHRD. You can rely on this info.
Dear NCS,
Thank you for your information, if it is authentic.Otherwise please don't mislead us.Please inform us with your latest information as soon as you get so that we can share it. Thanks again.
Dear all, the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee report would be finalised at Delhi on 7th July 2009 and would be submitted immediately. It is authentic news.
Now, it has come to form a common platform to agitate nationwide for delay in implementing of aicte pay scale for all technical faculties, otherwise we have to suffer a lot.
Can any body know whether Prof.Mehta has submitted the report or not ?
What is latest position ?
I cant understand why these people are not considering our problems seriously.They just want to save some crores by delaying the implementation of AICTE revised pay. But they feel hard to digest the truth that many people are in urgent need of the revised pay scales. Atleast they had to implement it before august 2009 and they must strongly recommend all private engineering colleges to implement it.
what is the latest information of submitting AICTE pay report which is scheduled to submit toady(30.06.09)? Please inform us in this site the latest development of aicte pay commision"s report.
We can expect everything to get finalised in the month of July. IIT, IIM Pay decision is likely to be cleared by the Cabinet during this week. (It has appeared in the NEWS). Mehta Committee is submitting one more report today. Mr Kapil Sibbal seems to be a dynamic man, and he will certainly go for Decisions (he has showed such behaviour in his earliers assigned departments also) So, after IIT - IIM, it should be the turn for all AICTE affiliated including self-financed colleges to get the benefits. It is also conveyed that the pay package for technical teachers would certainly be better than their counterparts in other UGC colleges. LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST !!!
We can expect everything to get finalised in the month of July. IIT, IIM Pay decision is likely to be cleared by the Cabinet during this week. (It has appeared in the NEWS). Mehta Committee is submitting one more report today. Mr Kapil Sibbal seems to be a dynamic man, and he will certainly go for Decisions (he has showed such behaviour in his earliers assigned departments also) So, after IIT - IIM, it should be the turn for all AICTE affiliated including self-financed colleges to get the benefits. It is also conveyed that the pay package for technical teachers would certainly be better than their counterparts in other UGC colleges. LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST !!!
We can expect everything to get finalised in the month of July. IIT, IIM Pay decision is likely to be cleared by the Cabinet during this week. (It has appeared in the NEWS). Mehta Committee is submitting one more report today. Mr Kapil Sibbal seems to be a dynamic man, and he will certainly go for Decisions (he has showed such behaviour in his earliers assigned departments also) So, after IIT - IIM, it should be the turn for all AICTE affiliated including self-financed colleges to get the benefits. It is also conveyed that the pay package for technical teachers would certainly be better than their counterparts in other UGC colleges. LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST !!!
dear sir,
is any one aware, that when exactly is would be 6th pay commison be implemented. as per the speed of progress i think this may take another few years or so by that time 7th pay schedule might have arrised.
Sombody told to write the matter to Kapil Sibal. I have written several times to that person but did not get any response.How do u think after winning an election these politicians will help the general public like us? so dont depend on him. Better wait and see.We dont have any other option
Tomorrow is the last day of Dr. Mehta's Committee.Please make me known about Pay revision of polytechnic teachers.
LETS LOOK AT THE BRIGHTER SIDE-BY THE TIME WE GET THE 6TH PAY ,IT WOULD BE TIME FOR THE 7TH PAY AND THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, WE MAY GET BOTH THE PAYS TOGETHER . SO HAVE PATIENCE AND REJOICE.
it would be better if they scrap aicte/ugc
Education panel wants UGC, AICTE scrapped
See the following link tom know more
what is the status aicte 6th pay revision report of polytechnic lectures,will it be more than UGC pay scale?
ente vasudevetta athu eeeee adutha kalathonnum nadakkuvan pokunnilla
What is the status of pay revision(AICTE) of Engineering College teachers?
Revised pay for IIT, IIM faculty may go to Cabinet this weekPress Trust of India / New Delhi June 24, 2009, 15:24 IST
Teachers in IITs and IIMs may expect fat pay packages, better than their counterparts in universities and colleges, as the government is likely to take the issue of their revised salary to the Cabinet this week.
The Pay Review committee, headed by Prof Goverdhan Mehta, set up for faculty members of central technical institutes like IITs and IIMs had submitted its report to the HRD Ministry in February this year.
The government then set up another committee to study the recommendations and make final suggestions on salaries and perks for the teachers of 53 Central Technical Educational Institutions, including IITs and IIMs.
The committee had suggested a better package for these teachers as against the faculty members of universities and colleges.
"A cabinet note has been prepared and the matter may be moved to the cabinet this week," a top ministry official told PTI here.
The Goverdhan Mehta committee will also submit another report on salary package for faculty of AICTE-affiliated institutes.
The committee, which was supposed to submit the report by May end, has been given extension till June 30.
Cabinet will consider the revision submitted by Mehta by this week. See the following link for a happy news
When AICTE 6th pay will be released???????????
I agree with Mr.CPR about (The only solution is intervention of mr kapil sibal.He is not like the previous old buddhu.As i told you earlier ,we have no union or associations to raise our issues.just go to our ministers website directly (www.kapilsibalmp.com)and post our grievance directly.if hundreds of us make use of this,our minister cannot keep away from the issue. To know the present position,today i called mrs.Pratima dixit,the attendant told she is in tour.I then called mr Thakur,the govt secratary,the attendant told he is not in office.I then called mr Agarwal the principal secratary,the response was that he is out of country and ll return only after two weeks.If this is the situation the condition of technical teachers will be too pathetic.)SO IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE TEACHERS WORKING IN DELHI,WE ALL MUST ACT BY SENDING GRIEVANCES TO OUR HON MINISTER.& also form a union.I recomend to others to give his comments to direct our minister.
Dear All,
Let us be prepared for AICTE pay scales as New Year Gift in Jan 2010 rather than being too optimistic as Dasara or Diwali Gifts. The Govt, wants all of us to live miserable so that we become walking examples for the Gen.Next so that they wont dare to come into this profession.
Dear friends, Don't worry AICTE pay will come as a DIWALI GIFT for technical teachers when the season comes.
Dear friends, Don't worry AICTE pay will come as a DIWALI GIFT for technical teachers when the season comes.
There seems some one unlike a teacher has posted unparliamentary comments in recent post. it is unbecoming of a teacher. The hub coordinator is requested to delete these unwarranted comments immediately so that the grace and respect of a teacher like figure is maintained in the eye of public. Delays or no delays may be due to several reasons not attributable to Prof Mehta. A teacher dis-respecting a teacher should not expect any respect others will give him, let this be known to all if by chance the fact is not yet known.
There seems some one unlike a teacher has posted unparliamentary comments in recent post. it is unbecoming of a teacher. The hub coordinator is requested to delete these unwarranted comments immediately so that the grace and respect of a teacher like figure is maintained in the eye of public. Delays no delays may be due to several reaons not atributable to Prof Mehta. A teacher dis-respecting a teacher should not expect any respect others will give him, let this be known to all if by chance the fact is not yet known.
Probably these details (NIT scales with respect to IIT scales) are available on "PAY COMMISSION " site. The NIT directors have rejected such recommendations. Such moves by the committee would harm the technical education of the country.
Dear CPR
I asked about Mehtas second report (engineering/polytechnics). Where did you get the information regarding the submission of Mehtas second report?
Keep patience friends, We will get in course of time.
nit proffessor=iit asso prof,,,,,nit asso prof=less than asso prof and greater than asst prof of niit,,,,,nit asst prof=less than iit asst prof
Dear CPR
Could you provide the details of Mehta's second report?
The only solution is intervention of mr kapil sibal.He is not like the previous old buddhu.As i told you earlier ,we have no union or associations to raise our issues.just go to our ministers website directly (www.kapilsibalmp.com)and post our grievance directly.if hundreds of us make use of this,our minister cannot keep away from the issue. To know the present position,today i called mrs.Pratima dixit,the attendant told she is in tour.I then called mr Thakur,the govt secratary,the attendant told he is not in office.I then called mr Agarwal the principal secratary,the response was that he is out of country and ll return only after two weeks.If this is the situation the condition of technical teachers will be too pathetic.SO IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE TEACHERS WORKING IN DELHI,WE ALL MUST ACT BY SENDING GRIEVANCES TO OUR HON MINISTER.
Dear collegues,try to understand the reality.The aicte is only a body governed by MHRD.the officials of aicte is not responsible for the delay.It is the mhrd to decide .Govardhan mehta had already submitted the reports.The iit/iim faculties are drawing the revised pay on adhoc manner.Their report is being processed by an interministerial committee comprising 20 to 25 members.it is highly impossible to arrange atleast 50 percent of them to attend in a sitting.So making a decision by interministerial committee is a mammoth task .Thats why the revision indefinitly delayed.The second report of mehta meant for engg.polytechnic,pharmacyetc etc is placed before mhrd last week.But being the first on pending they cannot release the second one.
Prof Tyagi has rightly hit the nail!
The AICTE & UGC which are nothing but dolls at the hands of powerfull politicians who also are owners of large educational empires It is a shame on the part of Tech.teachers to beg the parity with non-tech teachers pay scales. This happens only because there are very few permanent teachers in Govt, and Aided Technical Colleges.
It is now in immediate future these two white elephants will be sunk by the Govt. We are trying to equate apples with oranges here only coz apples are in fewer in number.
Anyone listening in Delhi there? You should hurry up plz.
Why should we not be associated with UGC ,what is the harm . Is there is any one who can tell what better treatment have we been given in 5th pay revision.So we should get associated with a big and strong teaching lobbyie UGC.By puttinng the tag of technical we are complled to suffer. So my request isto voice to close down the aicte and start a dept. of tech. education under the umbrella of ugc so that we people also get all the benifits along all the ugc teachers
Why should we not be associated with UGC ,what is the harm . Is there is any one who can tell what better treatment have we been given in 5th pay revision.So we should get associated with a big and strong teaching lobbyie UGC.By puttinng the tag of technical we are complled to suffer. So my request isto voice to close down the aicte and start a dept. of tech. education under the umbrella of ugc so that we people also get all the benifits along all the ugc teachers
dear sir/mam
i am a employe in a engg. college but i m a non teaching stap so i want knowlidge about my pay scell and rull.
thanking you
We should understand from the reactions and reflexes from this hub page why we technical teachers do get revision of pay in the last after over a year each time. We do liitle like other teachers do. They are organised and have their proper associations. Members lend support to them and get the results.Any learning?
A new joke in circulation in Universities: Asked by a Technical university Professor that when is the 6th pay commission being implemented for University and Technical teachers, a MHRD official replies " Are you kidding? We 'might have' already implemented it a long back!! We get our new salaries since 2008 - since about 10 months back!! How come you are not getting your new salaries?? Are you asking for VII pay commission salary??"
"No my dear friend, I am talking of VI Pay Commission Salary" replied the Professor .
A GOOD EXAMPLE OF TOTAL MEMORY LOSS.
It seems that AICTE not bothered about welfare of teachning/non teachning staff in Engg Colleges and Polytechnics!, AICTE is sleeping..... they are not providing any information on AICTE site but where as UGC was publishing all the devlopments while implementing 6th pay to the UGC satff. AICTE has to wakeup and has to provide latest information about 6th pay scales to the employess under AICTE pay scales.. They sholud provide reason for unnecessary delay in implementing revised AICTE pay scales.
Has Mehta report been submitted to HRD, today?
AICTE is not bothrering whether the Private engg colleges are implimenting or not. AICTE shoud strictly implimetn 6th pay scales for pVT engg college staff. then only quality improves.AICTE asking many many things in the inspection, but not staff scales
AICTE is not bothrering whether the Private engg colleges are implimenting or not. AICTE shoud strictly implimetn 6th pay scales for pVT engg college staff. then only quality improves.AICTE asking many many things in the inspection, but not staff scales
see that every engg college impliment
the latest position is the teachers from central institutes like iit/iim/mining school Dhanbad etc are already receiving revised scale on adhoc manner.all others just blinking as there is no voice or nobody to pressurise mhrd. if goes like this ,never expect revised salaries till doom comes .thats why cpr said to convey grievances directly to kapilsibals website
the latest position is the teachers from central institutes like iit/iim/mining school Dhanbad etc are already receiving revised scale on adhoc manner.all others just blinking as there is no voice or nobody to pressurise mhrd. if goes like this ,never expect revised salaries till doom comes .thats why cpr said to convey grievances directly to kapilsibals website
Have any latest information for implementation of AICTE Pay scale as per 6th pay commission in technical Institution including polytechnic colleges, please inform us through this .
Dear friends,
If any body knows about present status of revised AICTE pay scales as per sixth pay commssion, please post it on this site.
Anyone the correct status of new pay scale
nothing has been finalised.
Can anybody inform what happened in the meeting of Tech. Education Directors with Mehta committee/Govt. officials on June 07,2009? What is causing delay now when everything has been finalised?
1. when will the ugc teachers start getting the revised scales.
2. Who are those teachers falling under the purview of ugc and who uder the purview of aicte?
www.kapilsibalmp.com .post our grievance directly
GOOD EVENING ALL OF YOU.WE ALL KNOW THAT UGC HAD RELEASED THE FITMENT TABLES LAST NOON.GENERAL ELECTION AND FITMENT TABLES FROM UGC ARE THE TWO OBSTACLES THAT CAME IN THE WAY OF AICTE PAY REVISION AS SAID BY MRS.PRATIMA DIXIT.BOTH THE OBSTACLES WERE REMOVED BY TIME.TODAY AFTERNOON I CALLED TO THE OFFICE OF AICTE MEMBER SECRATARY MR RAO.ONE LADY TOOK THE PHONE AND ENQUIRED THE MATTER.SHE TOLD IT WILL TAKE ANOTHER 2 OR 3 MONTHS.IT IS A BARE REALITY THAT WE HAVE NO ORGANISATION OR ASSOCIATION EVEN IN THE STATE LEVEL BUT WE ARE THE HIGHEST CLASS IN THE TEACHING FRATERNITY.THE MAZDOOR WORKING IN INDIAN RAILWAYS AND THE LINE MEN WORKING IN THE ELECTRICITY BOARD ARE ERNING MUCH THAN OUR SALARIES.WE ARE INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE NO FORCE OR VOICE.SO IT IS HIGH TIME TO UNITE.BUT IT IS SO LATE FOR AN UNION AT THIS JUNCTURE.SO MY HUMBLE REQUEST IS ,EVERY USER OF THIS HUB SHOULD DIRECTLY GO TO THE MHRD MINISTERS PERSONAL WEBSITE AND GIVE OUR GRIEVANCE DIRECTLY.THE MINISTERS PERSONAL WEBSITE IS WWW.KAPILSIBALMP.COM. HALF AN HOUR BACK I ADDRESSED OUR MATTER PERSONALLY.THE MINISTER'S INTERVENTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION .THE PRIVATE INSTITUTION LOBY IS SO STRONG AND THEY ARE THE ONE AND ONLY FORCE BEHIND THIS DELAY.ONE MONTH DELAY CAN MAKE THEM SAVE CRORES.SO NEVER HESITATE TO ADDRESS THE MATTER IN FRONT OF OUR HONARABLE MINISTER.
after how much time, 6th pay will be applicable for pvt engineering, pharmacy & management college. who will pressurise them for this? AICTE or?
after how much time, 6th pay will be applicable for pvt engineering, pharmacy & management college. who will pressurise them for this? AICTE or?
after how much time, 6th pay will be applicable for pvt engineering, pharmacy & management college. who will pressurise them for this? AICTE or?
Aicte is bullshit
Have any latest information for implementation of AICTE Pay scale as per 6th pay commission in technical Institution including polytechnic colleges, please inform us through this .
Thank u for your suggestion
Already it has been brought to the notice of AICTE, New Delhi by the State govt. of Karnataka. Since the matter has been finalized in the court, there is a positive reply from the AICTE, New Delhi. We are waiting for the AICTE New Delhi comments about this, whether they will form a committe or finalize themselves to revise and announce the pay scales to the technical staff of engineering colleges.
I DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE AICTE WOULD OFFER TO TEACHERS.
I DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE AICTE WOULD OFFER TO TEACHERS.
I DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE AICTE WOULD OFFER TO TEACHERS.
Now UGC fitment tables are out, AICTE should wake up, take initiative and finalise Mehta Committee report recommendations and come out with nofification within a couple of weeks. Because of such slumber state of AICTE, Higher education has not benefitted and there are moves to bring in Council for Higher Education as new regulator in place of AICTE. Why our Associations also not doing anything to remind AICTE? Send urgent memorandum to ministry of HRD and AICTE and tell your members what you intend to do to get your pay scales revised. Other wise AICTE track record is pretty bad. 1996 revision UGC notified in Oct. 1998 and AICTE notified in March 2000. Why all our associations are so non responsive too?
FINALLY THE FITMENT TABLES FOR UGC ARE OUT FROM THE MINISTRY.(see mhrd website,in the announcement part).ITS HIGH TIME FOR PRATIMA TO WAKE UP AND BRUSH .
Dear Manjunath,
I know that most of the Technical Institutes (Engg Colleges) in Karnataka are not giving AICTE pay scales to their staff. But on paper they will show to AICTE, that they are paying...... AICTE may be knowing this.... but they are very much interested in other matters. Implemenation of high court order is mandatory on the part of Govt of Karnataka. My suggestion is that it is better to approach higher education ministry of Karnataka in this matter...
recently aicte committe take a decison to implement AICTE pay scales to the technical staff (helper cadre to foreman cadre) of the engineering colleges of karnataka, as per the directions of the high court of karnataka. what about the details
HRD MINISTRY should keen watch the self finance institutions.most of the institutions cheating their faculties.A right action must be need to rectify the above mentioned problem.
The Govt India must understand the hardship faced by a technical teaching fraternity due to delay in implementation of AICTE pay scales. It seems that ministry of HRD is relaxed mode, as no more election for another five years!!!!. I hope our Hon'ble HRD Minister Shri. Kapil Sibbal will understand the difficulty of Technical Teachers of Govt institutes/other technical institutes and issue necessary guidelines for implementation of revised (sixth pay commission) AICTE pay scales at the earliest.
Its really shameful scenario in our country, for the technical teachers..Great institutions...like IITs...great teachers..doing splendid research and developmental works.. These govt peaple/politicians are feeling proud for such huge scale of development in our country...but they fail to understand that technical teachers are actually the backbone of of the performance of our country and rise at the global front. The people who should receive maximum respect, are infact being humiliated and insulted.. Great Shame for our country !!!!
All Central Govt employees are started getting revised sixth pay scales from Sept 2008 and also got 40% pay arrears. But even after lapse of 10-months, AICTE has not announced revised pay scales. It is really very sad part on Technical Teachers who are under AICTE pay scale !!!!!! It seems that AICTE is purposely delaying announcement of new pay scales in the behest of private institutes lobby.
Is revision in the norms of professor/director's qualification/age reported by Mehta, will be binding on AICTE?
Secondly, AICTE is sluggish in terms of notification about any change in norms.
Let us know the ways and means to pressurise AICTE for quick annoncement.
The formation of new revision committee under Kulkarni is absolutely false. Mehta report is scheduled to be submitted on 10th June. It seems Mehta committee has completed revsion of Engg. college teachers pay . Now, Mehta committee has invited polytechnic teachers representatives to provide their opinion(on 7th June). Possibly this could be the last phase of their work. Hopefully, they might submit the report on 10th June. Implementation..... only god knows!!!
Dear All !
AICTE is so called governed by accademicians. Most of the faculties in technical and management PG colleges find that AICTE is in the strong hands of education related politiciations interested in contango (i.e. higher profit sharing). Most of the AICTE approved colleges are run by visiting faculties paid minimal salary. Neither good UG college standards are maintend nor job oriented education given in AICTE approved colleges presently. AICTE higher qualification norm not accomodating experienced teachers is responsible for this mess. For visiting temporary post faculties are not interested and many post are vacant.
AICTE website still display the same old qualification/age norms for the post of Professor/Director of Ph. D. with First Class @ PG in relevant subject having 10/15 years experience.
Though number of candidates approaching are few, AICTE is indirectly helping education profit shareres to run the colleges by visiting faculties.
While UGC long back in 1998 relaxed First Class @ PG to 50% for pass out before 1991 and SC/ST/OBC candidates as per their Notification of 1998 para 3 to be eligible for Professor/Director post.
Similarly, MHRD under their Notification No.1-32/2006-UII/U.I(i), New Delhi, dated 31st December 2008 relaxed the age of supper annuation upto 70 for Professor/Director/Pro-VC/VC post to accomodate experienced academicians.
AICTE is still rigid and neither Mehta nor Kulkarni Committee will be accepted by the education contangos.
AICTE body is cursed by technical/management faculties and students not giving full time teachers and experienced professor/director.
Before this June 20, AICTE should resolve the notification atleast in conformity with UGC and MHRD for uniformity in qualification/age norms, so that experienced full time teaching staff can be maintented.
What stops our Associations( ) that they can't meet the new HRD minister and speak about implementation of revised pay scales already approved. Have the great leaders of great teachers lost faith in themselves to lead or their members who support them. At least we shall know the philosophy of the new minister on this matter and what lies ahead for teachers and the students of this great country. It seems they have been gagged. Really, there is no statement, no info, circular, news or excitement from their side. What has gone wrong with them all -state or centre level associations. And IIMs and IITs are anothe lot wha seem the least interested in their revised pay scales. Are they ascetics of gurukul days ? Not really. Not understandable really. Will some one comment?
State Government & Central Government has already implemented sith pay commision reccomendations.Ugc has also paid pay hikes for its teachers. A stable central government has already been formed.Then how long will Aicte take to publish its pay reccomendation and impement it for its teachnical teachers including polytechnic teachers ?
UGC FITMENT TABLES OUT.DOWNLOAD FROM GIRIDHARMADRAS.BLOGSPOT.COM
Prof. Nandkumar,
Please specify the matter clearly new Committee in place of Govardhan Mehta Committee.
let the revision being implemented by 2015
ITS VERY UNFORTUNATE TO HEAR THAT MEHTA COMMITTEE RECOMENDATIONS WERE REJECTED BY THE UNION GOVT.TEACHERS BECAME THE SCAPE GOAT FOR SIBAL-ARJUN RIFT.UNION GOVT IS PLANNING TO FORM A NEW COMMISSION UNDER PROF KULKARNI TO REVISE THE PAY FOR TECH TEACHERS.
ITS VERY UNFORTUNATE TO HEAR THAT MEHTA COMMITTEE RECOMENDATIONS WERE REJECTED BY THE UNION GOVT.TEACHERS BECAME THE SCAPE GOAT FOR SIBAL-ARJUN RIFT.UNION GOVT IS PLANNING TO FORM A NEW COMMISSION UNDER PROF KULKARNI TO REVISE THE PAY FOR TECH TEACHERS.
bakhwas bandh karo
keep it up pratima.you r the most qualified person to have tech education head
never revise the pay of teachers further more.already they are earning too much.common man'tax should not be wasted .it should be directed for the development of nation.giving proffessors 80000 per month is undigestable.
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But, the techical teachers salary is very less compared to their students, who have graduated just one year back.
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It is indeed a state of shame that the technical teachers are humiliated and deprived of the 6th Pay Commission benefits. The country like India, is the largest trainers of human resources, which not only serves for the country but serves for the globe, and it is the teaching community who contributes to it. Not only that, the teaching community is the role model, who is not paid back from any sources rather than their salary, though works day and night with the philosophy of morality and knowledge for the sake of others. The teachers are the only role model to our nation. At the end of the day, if we look back, the teachers are under the poorest category in terms of salary earned per hour.
LET THE FORIEGN UNIVERSITIES COME FIRST .THEN GIVE MEHTA ADDITIONAL JOB OF REVISING THE PAY OF THEIR STAFF TOO.GIVE HIM ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.THEN HAVE HIS REPORT AND GIVE IT TO INTER MINISTERIAL COMMITTEE FOR PROCESSING. NEVER DISCLOSE ANYTHING AS IT MAY HARM NATIONAL SECURITY.MR Y.Q KHAN IS ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR THE MEHTA'S PROCESSED REPORT.THE PROCESSED REPORT SHOULD MAKE TO AND FRO MOTION BETWEEN MHRD AND FINANCE FOR MONTHS YEARS OR DECADES UNTIL THE LAST PERSON FROM THE TEACHER COMMUNITY BECOMES A BEGGAR
LET THE FORIEGN UNIVERSITIES COME FIRST .THEN GIVE MEHTA ADDITIONAL JOB OF REVISING THE PAY OF THEIR STAFF TOO.GIVE HIM ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.THEN HAVE HIS REPORT AND GIVE IT TO INTER MINISTERIAL COMMITTEE FOR PROCESSING. NEVER DISCLOSE ANYTHING AS IT MAY HARM NATIONAL SECURITY.MR Y.Q KHAN IS ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR THE MEHTA'S PROCESSED REPORT.THE PROCESSED REPORT SHOULD MAKE TO AND FRO MOTION BETWEEN MHRD AND FINANCE FOR MONTHS YEARS OR DECADES UNTIL THE LAST PERSON FROM THE TEACHER COMMUNITY BECOMES A BEGGAR
It is a shame on all of us to accept this ill treatment. We are not paid the hike which is due for us. What is the use of all of our qualifications? Whether it is Ph.D or our publications or our research?
It is a sort of game playing with our patience.
nothing regarding pay revision in 100 day plan.lets wait for 100 more days
ITS SHAME ON YOU MR ASOK BURMAN &THOMAS JOSEPH.QUIT FROM THE CHAIRMAN AND SECATARYSHIP
No need to hike pay of teachers now. After completing 4 years in govt. we will process.
Dear kumar Velu,
Who of some of us will take up with leading newspapers? It should be the Associations whatever( in name or real). If they are doing something at least they should mention it. If not doing, they should do it. They are backed by their members and they are not committing a crime by taking up the matter of pay revision that is justified, approved and long overdue. all of us should know what are the reasons at least ?
No unity among technical teachers, no combined effort among technical teachers, so No Pay Hike.
Some of us can write about our status to some Leading Newspapers. Let us see whether that provides any solution
What has happened to the pay revision to AICTE monitored Government Colleges?
What has happened to the pay revision to AICTE monitored Government Colleges?
1. DTF, DUTA, AIFUCTO have always talked big big things. They have not been able to get the fitment table released form MHRD or UGC for the last five months for the revised and approved pay scales by MHRD. 2.Have they lost faith in usefulness, importance , value and strength of the united teachers? 3.Every teacher must search his soul why teachers get the revision only after IAS and other Govt. staff gets the revision and that also after a year or two. 4. Analysis must be done as to who is to be blamed for this situation and take remedial steps. 5. HRD ministry that can not prepare fitment tables or has no talent in UGC to prepare fitment tables as per 6th pay comission scales, must delegate it to Teachers Associations who can do it fast and get it vetted from MHRD. Or MHRD should be transparent about the reaons for delay and how many years project it is for them so that teachers should not wait endlessly about the revised pay. This is really not fair. then there is one AICTE that has no bakbone of its own. They will be the last to follow the UGC pay gudieliens in entirety. All sorts of excuses are being made every time teachers meet them. 6. The real first reform needed is respecting the sentiments of the teaching community before anything else can be done.
Teachers, either agree or disagree. must express your views. Comments are invited from the right thinking teachers.
Dear Dr.Mehta,
Retired teachers of IIT/IIM/IISc etc etc also should have pension fixation as per your committee recommendation such that they also get the advantage of grade pay.If the experienced Professors join IIT/IIM etc in pay band-4 with Rs.48,000.00 + GP 12000.00. Then basic pension fixation for the Ex- professor of these Institutes should at least(if not more) be Rs.30000.00 as on 1.1.2006 as per AICTE pay structure accepted by Govardhan Mehta Committee.Hopefully the policy decision on pension fixation will appear in the internet soon. Thanks and regards.
Prof.K.K.Roy
There seems no activity on pay scales recommended by Mehta committee so far even after elections and minister taking charge. I teach in a private collge where there are no teachers associations. Associations of govt colleges /institutes/ universities may inform what has been happening on this front. Cenral Government Administrative officers were the first to benefit. Teachers are the last but "when" is the question.
Mr. Kapil Sibal is new HRD minister. Any reaction?
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I am from Gujarat. The Gujarat Govt has denied paying the transport allowance as per the sixth pay commission. Can the govt decide this way ? Of course, this is done for government officials...the decision regarding the technical teachers is still to come...
What is really happening at the end of AICTE ? Why the issue of our salary is not resolved ? The general elections are over, new ministry is under formation stage, the government should be approached for pressurizing the AICTE.
What is really happening at the end of AICTE ? Why the issue of our salary is not resolved ? The general elections are over, new ministry is under formation stage, the government should be approached for pressurizing the AICTE.
AICTE Pay revision :Meeting scheduled on 25 May 09
The meeting of AIFPTO office bearers with Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee to discuss various issues regarding pay commission is scheduled on Dt. 29-05-2009 at New Delhi
Actually, some professor on this hub had rightly written that all employee groups who were agressive in approach and mattered to ovt. as vote bank, have got the pay revision first. UGC teachers are next agressive but less so than Govt employees in number and vote bank priority. So no fitment table yet. AICTE regulated technical teachers are only a few thousands. On the top of it, AICTE efficency in functioning is well known. Even last revison in 1996, AICTE notification was out in March 2000 after Govt. and UGC had revised in October 1998. Unless they are chased actively, they are not going to do it even this time for a couple of years. But may be they are under attack for performance recently, may be they do it early this time. Lets be realistic about the whole situation. Respect for teachers and their valuable contribution is on nobody else minds except the teachers themselves. There is nothing to prove otherwise unfortunatley. Just writing on hubs will not help. Uniting thru Associations and persistently taking up with MHRD will only help. Please agree or disagree and keep this hub alive as it has yet not served its final purpose.
Dr. S.K Singh's view is very true...I endorse him
It seems there is nohope for teachers before August ,09. Very Unfortunate.
AICTE should clearly notify --- "the experience and qualifications of polytechnic teachers who have research capabilities, to be strictly consider for equivalent post in Degree level & Postgraduate teaching institutions.
Often it is seen that even a polytechnic teacher is having highy qualified and having research capabilities and is capale to teach UG & PG students, they are internaly not being considered for such opportunities by the selection comittee. Such discremmination should be immediately removed and should be clearly notify for eligibility.
AICTE should clearly notify --- "the experience and qualifications of polytechnic teachers who have research capabilities, to be strictly consider for equivalent post in Degree level & Postgraduate teaching institutions.
Often it is seen that even a polytechnic teacher is having highy qualified and having research capabilities and is capale to teach UG & PG students, they are internaly not being considered for such opportunities by the selection comittee. Such discremmination should be immediately removed and should be clearly notify for eligibility.
FOR TEACHERS THE NOTIFICATION WILL BE ISSUED AFTER THE GENERAL ELECTIONS BUT FOR PSU THIS WAS DONE WITHIN A WEEK OF SUBMISSION OF REPORT WHICH WAS MUCH LATER THAN CHADHA AND MEHTA COMIITTEES HAD SUBMITTED THEIR REPORTS. TEACHERS IN HIGHER EDUCATION AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION SHOULD NOTE THE DOUBLE STATNDARDS THAT UPA GOVT HAS PLAYED WITH THE TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN A POSITION OF ARM-TWISTING THE UPA GOVT, LIKE PSU OFFICERS . PLEASE DO REMEMBER THIS WHILE CASTING YOUR VOTE IN GENERAL ELECTIONS. NOW THE TEACHERS SHOULD WAKE UP AND SEE HOW MUCH UPA GOVT CARES FOR THEM AND HOW TO TEACH A LESSON TO THE DECEIVERS. PROBABLY THE BABUS IN THE MINISTRY WANTED A SENSE OF DISSATISFACTION AND FRUSTRATION AGAINST THE PRSENT GOVT TO GROW AND A STATE OF CONFUSION TO CREATE. PEOPLE WILL CERTAINLY VENT THIS FRUSTRATION THROUGH THEIR VOTES.
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over
We are still waiting for VIth pay commssion. Sir U can expect some progress only after general elections 2009 or even formation of govt don't expect anything before July-Aug'09. Since we are cows not bulls. No option at all except wait with calm. It was dicided when they announced the IR for we people.
/shiv
Any new news about implementation of 6th pay commission?
Yes, AICTE is the most currupt department of the country nowadays. One of the official at AICTE is from DTTE (on deputation), Govt of NCT of Delhi. I came to know that,he has given 1.5 Crore bribe just for stopping transfer from chandigarh to Jorhat. Is there someone who can ask from where he has arranged so much dreamed money. Generally, there is no provision of deputation from DTTE but due to long hand in politics, money back up he is enjoying like anything there. As and when some official raise voice he obliged him all the world ways. Kindly commnets.
shiv
New Delhi: As per a Parliamentary Committee report tabled in the Parliament on Friday, the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE) has failed to improve and streamline technical education in the country.
The report says, "The AICTE till date has failed to undertake any survey whatsoever leaving thereby the crucial mandate of making forecast about the needed growth and development in technical education unattended so far".
As per a series of reports on AICTE, it has been found that the council does not provide autonomy to the institutions even though its charter of duties provide for it.
It has also been found that around 62 foreign institutions were operating in India without any approval.
As a case in point, the committee cited the lopsided development of technical education in the country with a majority of institutes concentrated in peninsular India.
The committee has criticized AICTE's inability to take any additional task. "The council has failed completely in managing satisfactorily the programmes present under its purview", it said.
The committee also criticized AICTE for not undertaking any survey of the technical education currently prevailing in the country.
"AICTE till date has failed to undertake any survey whatsoever in the field of technical education leaving thereby the crucial mandate of making forecasts about the growth and development in technical education unattended so far", the report said.
Thanks professor,
U will be surprised that these days AICTE is not taking action on the MHRD orders. Moreover, when a application is submitted under RTI they are not ready to respond. Finally, on the pressure of CIC when it becomes essential AICTE replys with "No Information" about action taken on MHRD orders. I feel that now AICTE is only for approving the new courses and new colleges because there they can make extra money. They are not concerned with the faculty development and other assigned work. There is a real need to raise voice against AICTE. It better to close such corrupt organisation. I have a lot to say but do not feel this as the correct plateform.
Hope a few of us, atleast may stand togetether to make a differece.
Jai Hind
The last word Jai Hind of last post on this hub page should not be the closing word of this hub. Be active. It is very clear that babus rule supreme in Govt sector, they are most organised work force in government sector, they are the first to get the benefits, they become the leading guide and do never allow others to get a better deal. This has always happened and it is not different this time too. No lessons taken from history. Why teachers always get in the end and if planning commission wants to give them a bit better deal recognising their important role in transforming India, they will not get it at all and whatever they get will come after years of wait and struggle. Last 5 th pay revision, Govt notification was in Octobe 1998 and AICTE notification was in March, 2000. I think the so called intellgentia can undestand why they meet this fate time and again. Analysis needs to be advanced to sythesis.
Suggestion
it has been found that there is a vast difference between the scale of a assistand professor AGP3 (formly readers) and that of the associate professors. This is because of the change in the paybands. I hereby suggest to announce the minimum pay fro different AGP in order to reduce the difference to some extent and yet follow the MHRD rules.
Assistant professor AGP1 (formly lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 6000 Minimum pay 15600
Assistant professor AGP2 (formly Sr. lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 7000 Minimum pay 24600
Assistant professor AGP3 (formly Sl.Grade lecturer/ reader) scale 15600-39100 AGP 8000 Minimum pay 34600
Associate professor (Reader with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 9000 Minimum pay 37400
Professor (Associate prof. with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 10000 Minimum pay 47400
Sr. Professor (Prof. with 10 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 12000 Minimum pay 57400
Then only the scale will be justified.
Jai Hind
Suggestionit has been found that there is a vast difference between the scale of a assistand professor AGP3 (formly readers) and that of the associate professors. This is because of the change in the paybands. I hereby suggest to announce the minimum pay fro different AGP in order to reduce the difference to some extent and yet follow the MHRD rules.
Assistant professor AGP1 (formly lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 6000 Minimum pay 15600Assistant professor AGP2 (formly Sr. lecturer) scale 15600-39100 AGP 7000 Minimum pay 24600Assistant professor AGP3 (formly Sl.Grade lecturer/ reader) scale 15600-39100 AGP 8000 Minimum pay 34600
Associate professor (Reader with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 9000 Minimum pay 37400Professor (Associate prof. with 3 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 10000 Minimum pay 47400Sr. Professor (Prof. with 10 yrs exp.) scale 37400-67000 AGP 12000 Minimum pay 57400
Then only the scale will be justified.
Jai Hind
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AICTE Pay revision : Report only after general election
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over.
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AICTE Pay revision : Report only after general election
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over.
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AICTE Pay revision : Report only after general election
In a meeting with AIFPTO officials on 1 April 2009, Ms. Pratima Dixit Director (TC), MHRD, informed that the UGC is still holding its notification for university teachers, the AICTE could not take any decision in the matter. She furthur added that the pay revision report would be finalized and notifed only after general elections are over.
Respected Mr Raj Kumar & Prof Arora,
In search of a platform to raise our (Technical Teachers) voice why don't u contact the office bearerers of like AIFPTO and AGOTE for the mutual and common grivences. I am giving u the contact details of respective General Secretaries of both the association(s).
Mr N. Chandra Sekhar, General Secretary, AIFPTO, 09848536871
Dr S. Banerjee, General Secretary, AGOTE, 09873004750
Kindly unite for survival of the community.
We have to thank Prof.V.K. for giving us the names and phone numbers of the Contact Persons. Let us all ask our other technical teachers to interact with them.
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Respected Mr Raj Kumar & Prof Arora,
In search of a platform to raise our (Technical Teachers) voice why don't u contact the office bearerers of like AIFPTO and AGOTE for the mutual and common grivences. I am giving u the contact details of respective General Secretaries of both the association(s).
Mr N. Chandra Sekhar, General Secretary, AIFPTO, 09848536871
Dr S. Banerjee, General Secretary, AGOTE, 09873004750
Kindly unite for survival of the community.
Dear Prof.Arora,
With regard to specification of what should be done, by whom and how and when and where, We have to first initiate the awareness among our college faculty members , then within the State and then to the entire country. This is going to be a step by step process. Let us now atleast initiate the process. Let us start Technical Teachers Associations. Let us talk to the general public about this issue. How many of us discuss this issue with other friends of ours, Who are in other professions? We have to follow the example of UGC Teachers. We have to completely ignore the teachers who are in private management institutes/Engineering colleges. Some of them will be happy if they get their salary in time. There are many faculties who did not get their salary on a monthly basis. The core discussion pertains to Government Technical Institutions.
Dear Mr. Raj Kumar,
Please specify what should be done, by whom and how and when and where. If there are any Technical Teachers Associations, they should take the lead, make public and media aware of the issue, send delegation with memorandum to MHRD, AICTE, Prime Minister. See their response, if they are not responding, then take a call on further action as suggested by you. UGC Teachers were more alert and active, hence they got their scalea and arrears too. Technical teachers do not have any associations , most likely 80% teachers are in private management institutes/Engineering colleges and fear reprisals for taking wage revision issues. Some do not get even full 5th pay comm scales. Many get consolidated contractual salaries. Hence no unity, no common voice. Hence no results on pay front. I hope I sound convincing. If not, please come back.
Dear Technical Teachers,
It is very evident that if and only if , we, all Technical Teachers become united and request the Government unitedly as a mass to implement the 6th Pay , We will not get the pay in the near future. What prevents us from doing that? Why don't we create a awareness among all of us? Not only, we are now losing our pay which is due for us and also our reputation. Are we inferior? Are we not qualified? Are we not doing our duties regularly? Why we have to be silent?
Not applicable to polytechnics
Is Mehat committee report is applicable for Polytechnic Teachers ?
Raise some collective voice, or wait for another year.
What about the revision for state engineering colleges
JUSTICE DELAYED IMPLIES JUSTICE DENIED. HERE, JUSTICE PERTAINS TO 6th PAY
JUSTICE DELAYED IMPLIES JUSTICE DENIED. HERE, JUSTICE PERTAINS TO 6th PAY
It is not the time to play pranks with the emotions of teachers- this job is already being done by the AICTE, HRD, and the rubbish, incomplete and childish report of Mehta Committee. Of course, there is one way to forget misery for some time to remain in good humour, that is to indulge in humour. But, it shoud not be at the expenses of one's emotions. Aggrieved people are hurt badly.
Let us ponder on what the Mehta committeee suggests - Have a PhD degree and get less thaan what a BE holder gets in private jots or in other govt. departments. The report is perhaps a headache for the MHRD, that's why the delay. Have patience! Mhrd will find out something new! Large scale research is going on there.
It is not the time to play pranks with the emotions of teachers- this job is already being done by the AICTE, HRD, and the rubbish, incomplete and childish report of Mehta Committee. Of course, there is one way to forget misery for some time to remain in good humour, that is to indulge in humour. But, it shoud not be at the expenses of one's emotions. Aggrieved people are hurt badly.
Let us ponder on what the Mehta committeee suggests - Have a PhD degree and get less thaan what a BE holder gets in private jots or in other govt. departments. The report is perhaps a headache for the MHRD, that's why the delay. Have patience! Mhrd will find out something new! Large scale research is going on there.
stop this useless discussions,all will happen at the time.Don't be anxious,concentrate on teaching
stop this useless discussions,all will happen at the time.Don't be anxious,concentrate on teaching
Hi San
They will be terminated.
What will happen to Assistant Professors who have completed 3 years of service in the pay sale of 12000-18300 as on 1.1.2006
and for those who completed three yesrs in the pay scale of 1200-18300 after 1.1.2006
Is Mehtha report is applicable to degree level technical educational institutions
Will aicte report will be accepted
will cabinet approve aicte revised pay scale report 2009
will cabinet approve aicte revised pay scale report 2009
will cabinet approve aicte revised pay scale report 2009
better to go to giridharmadrs.blogspot.com
Mehta committee report is available athttp://www.ziddu.com/download/4024895/Mehta_report any body can download if interested.vkt
Mehta committee report is available athttp://www.ziddu.com/download/4024895/Mehta_report body can download if interested.vkt
we want six pay commission beeter than ugc beause we have technical education.
Please note the correct link for full Mehta committee report as under:
Dear All,
Summarized recommendations of Govardhan Mehta Committee report for Faculty, Scientific/Design staff of Central Technical Institutes are available on the hubRevised UGC Pay Scales- From 6 PRC to implementation: Issues & Opinions
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In my opinion pressure of private engineering institutions is the only cause of this delay. We can not do any thing without organizing at national level.
My question is that after AICTE has implemented their new pay scales according to 6th pay commision, will the authority of pvt. engg. college follow the same?
Don't worry,the revision will be realized by this year end
The owners of private colleges are pressurising the AICTE to delay the process as far as possible.I think the process will not be in motion until the new admission (June-July) is started.
The Political leaders are after votes.So the first payscale out was for general employees. Then according to the numbers, the school teachers. Then the non-technical lecturers/professors. We, the technical teachers are least in numbers and hence are at the minimum preferential level.
AICTE is holding reputed Management Institutes and Engineering colleges also who even are willing and waiting for AICTE notification to implement. Problem is none of the AICTE bosses read this hubpage to take note of feelings of teachers affected by their inaction.And it seems their pay stands already revised.
AICTE is useless and currupt body. They are taking bribe from owners of private Engineering Coleges to delay the sixth pay commission implementation.
AICTE should expedite pay rivision
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Hi Ravi and others who are jealous about polytechnics
Spare few minutes to read and think.
It seems you (Ravi) have a bad perception with regard to polytechnics and polytechnic teachers. Polytechnics produce middle level technicians who are the backbone of indian industrial work force. Ironicaly, childeren of middle class people opt polytechnic education. Diploma holders fare well in field work/maintainace etc where engineers fail/resist to work. Keeping this in mind, AICTE has made lot of efforts to improve polytechnic education in India ( this thrust is continued even in 11th plan creating 1000 polytechnics against few IITs/central univesities). One such effort of AICTE is extending the AICTE pay scales to the teachers to attract qualified engineers into polytyechnic fold. Till recently, because of ever increasing demand for BE/ME from industry, polytechnics were facing the shortage of teachers ( I remenber, AICTE had made GATE compulsory for polytechnic teachers. Karnatak PSC received only one applicant for 500+ posts. Subsequently AICTE scrapped that criterion). In fact, even today, in many states diploma holders are teaching in polytechnics. In view of AICTE extending the payscales for polytechnics, many people with BE/ME qualification entered polytechnics . And today, more than 50% of polytechnic teachers are postgraduate engineers. 1996 AICTE pay scales prescribed the entry level criterion same as for Engg. colleges. As far as CAS is concerend, Selection Grade scale for MEs and Senior scale fo BEs were given. BEs can not go beyond senior scales in polytechnics (this is of course,diluted in some states due to local conditions). This information is not known to many people who are grumbling on AICTE pay scales of polytechnic teachers. Since only MEs are eligible to become Selection grade lectures in polytechnics according to the existing AICTE scales, it is natural to expect the same criterion to continue.
And, as far as working conditions are concerned, most of the polytechnics are in rural areas. Imagine, unless lucartive pay scales are offered, how polytechnics could be run.
In any case most of the polytechnics ( Govt. polytechnics) are working better than first grade/UG colleges. When UG college lecturer having post graduation in science /humanitie are getting PB-4 why not for post graduate engineers?
We are not against offering good salaries for premier institure faculties although they produce the professionls for other countries. Come on tell me how much of IIT/IISc research is being used in INdia. We import even small electronic toy forgert about defence equipment. What I mean to say, even if you look at relevance, polytechnic products are more relevant than IIT graduates. Imagine a day with faulty TV/printer in your house. Fortunately, this has been understood by the policy makers and made appropriate efforts to improve the polytechnic education in India.
Polytechnic teachers' scales were never same as IITs or even Engg. colleg teachers. In IIT, a person gets 1200-420 basic at entry level. In polytechnics, with ME. it requires 6+5=11 years to get 1200-420 scale. How can you equate both. Try to under stand this. In Engg. college, there is a provision to become AP/P. In polytechnics they can not go beyond 1200-420 basic. This is the reality.
Finally. Ravi, I remember you had posted a comment saying all Lecturer were same irrespective of the stream. Why you are defying your earlier stand on this? Any way you have got PB-4. Why you are jeolous about qualified polytechnic teachers? Come on, change your mind set. It is really challenging to teach in polytechnics where the students are unlikely to have much of English background. By the time they come ou of polytechnics, they will be more or less professionals. That is the power of polytechnics and its teachers. Teaching IIT-JEE qualified student or offline distace learing student is not really a challenge.
I hope my posting will change your mind set,
any new news ?
Dear Kumar, Who is yadav? From where have you got this information? Kindly let us know.
sir,
please give the details of Polytechnic Lecturers Pay revision report whch was submitted recently to HRD
mehta`s second report for engg,diploma institutes submitted to yadav
Revision of pay of scientists following revision of pay scales of Central Government employees on recommendations of the VI CPC 13-JhDated, the March, 2009INDIAN COUNCIL OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCHKRISHI BHAWAN : NEW DELHIF.No. 1(1)j2009-Per.IVToThe Directors j Project Directors of ICAR Research Institutes j NRCs j ProjectDirectorates j BureauxSub.: Revision of pay of scientists following revision of pay scales of CentralGovernment employees on recommendations of the VI CPCReference is invited to Council's letter No. 1(1)j2009-Per.IV dated 6th March,2009 regarding revision of pay of scientists following revision of pay scales of CentralGovernment employees pursuant to VI CPC. The posts in the existing pay scale ofRs. 16400-22400 have been placed in the pay band of Rs. 37400-67000 with astipulation that those recruited on or after 1.1.09 would receive minimum of Rs.43000 + RGP of Rs. 10000. In partial modification of these instructions it has beendecided that minimum of Rs. 43000 would be admissible to those recruited directlyas per revised qualifications to be notified by ICAR separately. Those recruited on orafter 1.1.09 as per existing qualifications will be placed in pay band of Rs. 3740067000(with a minimum pay of Rs. 39690) + RGP of Rs. 10000. The Annexure videpara 2.2 of Council's letter No. 1(1)j2009-Per.IV dated 6th March, 2009 has beenrevised accordingly and is annexed with this letter.Yours faithfully,Copy to :1. PS to AM2. Secretary, Department of Expenditure, Ministry of Finance, North Block, NewDelhi3. Secretary, Department of Higher Education, Ministry of Human ResourceDevelopment, Shastri Bhawan, New Delhi4. Secretary, Department of Personnel & Training, North Block, New Delhi5. AS & FA, DARE6. Sr. PPS to DG7. PO, DIPA for ICAR website8. President, ARS Scientists Forum9. DS(P), ICAR10. Secretary, ASRB1AnnexureRevised pay of scientists w.e.f. 1.1.06DesignationScientist(i) Scientist8000-13500(ii) Scientist (Sr.Scale)10000-15200(iii)Scientist (Sel.Grade)12000-18300Sr. ScientistSr. Scientist12000-18300Revised Pay RevisedDesianationPay Band - Rs.15600-39100 + ScientistRGP of Rs. 6000Pay Band - Rs.15600-39100 + ScientistRGP of Rs. 7000Revised pay of incumbents inpositionIncumbents with 3 years service in Scientistthe scale of Rs.12000-18300 on1.1.06.Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Incumbents with less than 3 years Scientistservice on 1.1.06Pay Band - Rs.15600-39100+ RGP of Rs. 8000On completion of 3 years of service Scientistin the grade of Scientist (Sel.Grade) to be placed inPay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Note - In view of the considerableraise in effective pay between thetwo Pay Bands there shall be noadditional increment on movementfrom the Pay Band of Rs. 1560039100to the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000.To be re-designated as Sr. Scientist Sr. Scientiston acquirina Ph.D deareeRevised pay of incumbents inpositionIncumbents with 3 years service in Sr. Scientistthe scale of RS.12000-18300 on1.1.06.2Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Incumbents with less than 3 years Sr. Scientistservice on 1.1.06Pay Band - Rs.15600-39100+ RGP of Rs. 8000On completion of 3 years of service Sr. Scientistin the grade of Senior Scientist tobe placed inPay Band - Rs.37400-67000+ RGP of Rs. 9000Note - In view of the considerableraise in effective pay between thetwo Pay Bands there shall be noadditional increment on movementfrom the Pay Band of Rs. 1560039100to the Pay Band of Rs.37400-67000.Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band Rs.37400-67000 + RGP of Sr. ScientistRs.9000 for those recruited directlyas per revised qualifications to benotified by leAR separatelyPay Band Rs.15600-39100 (with a Sr. Scientistminimum pay of Rs. 22320) + RGPof Rs. 8000 for those recruited onor after 1.1.09 as per existingqualificationsOn completion of 3 years service as Sr. ScientistSenior Scientist to be placed in PayBand Rs.37400-67000 + RGP of Rs.9000Note - In view of the considerableraise in effective pay between thetwo Pay Bands there shall be noadditional increment on movementfrom the Pay Band of Rs. 15600-139100 to the Pay Band of RS'I37400-67000. ~-----PrincipalScientist etc.(i) PrincipalScientist16400-22400(ii) ProjectCoordinator /ZonalCoordinator/NationalCoordinator,Head ofDivisions /RegionalCentres/Stations,Joint Directorof lCARinstitutes otherthan those inthefour DeemedUniversities &NAARM16400-224003Revised pay of incumbents inpositionPay Band - Rs. 37400-67000 +RGP of Rs. 10000Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 43000) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited directly as per revisedqualifications to be notified bylCAR separately.Pay Band - RS.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 39690) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited on or after 1.1.09 as perexisting qualifications.Revised pay of incumbents inpositionPay Band - Rs. 37400-67000 +RGP of Rs. 10000Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 43000) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited directly as per revisedqualifications to be notified bylCAR separately.Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 39690) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited on or after 1.1.09 as pereXisting qualifications.PrincipalScientistPrincipalScientistProjectCoordinator/ZonalCoordinator/NationalCoordinator,Head ofDivisions /RegionalCentres /Stations,Joint Directorof lCARinstitutesother thanthose in thefour DeemedUniversities &NAARM4RMP(i) Dy. Director Rs. 75000 fixedGeneral at ICARheadquartersRs. 25000/- fixed(ii) Director Rs. 75000 fixedNAARM,HyderabadRs. 25000/- fixed(iii) Directors of Rs. 75000 fixed + Rs. 5000 p.m.IARI, IVRI, NDRI, as Special AllowanceCIFERs. 25000/- fixedDy. DirectorGeneral atICARheadquartersDirectorNAARM,HyderabadDirectors ofIARI, IVRI,NDRI, CIFE(iv) Director /Project Director ofthe Institutes /National Bureaux/ NRC / ProjectDirectorate - ADGat ICARHeadquarters,Joint Director ofIARI, IVRI, NDRI,CIFE & NAARM16400-22400Revised pay of incumbents inpositionPay Band - Rs. 37400-67000 +RGP of Rs. 10000Revised pay of future recruitsPay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 43000) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited directly as per revisedqualifications to be notified byICAR separately.Pay Band - Rs.37400-67000 (witha minimum pay of Rs. 39690) +RGP of Rs. 10000 for thoserecruited on or after 1.1.09 as perexisting qualifications.Director /ProjectDirector ofthe Institutes/ NationalBureaux /NRC / ProjectDirectorate ADGat ICARHeadquarters,Joint Directorof IARI, IVRI,NDRI, CIFE &NAARMFellowship(i) NationalFellow16400-224005
When ever the comparison occurs between the UGC & AICTE teachers ,work load of acte teachers is allows different in the sense of course subject..These are proffesional courses so efforts of teachers are alaways more than UGC teachers. To attract caliber peoples in this field the be paid extra professional allowance for this faculty. In this direction atcte should take the positive steps to give justice for engineering teachers.
Today, I have talked to Ms. Pratima Dixit (Director, TC, MHRD - concerned person regarding Pay revision of AICTE, 011-23386561). As per her comments, pay revision report for degree engg. college faculties may be submitted at the end of this month. At last she has talked to me (not like AICTE people, who always try to avoid). Other hub members are also requested to talk to her time to time, so that we may get some informaion at least (Since our status will not be published in any news paper as because they are concerned only about UGC people or IIT/IIM/NIT people).
The faculties in technical institutions must be better paid in terms scale, grade pay and allowances to attract quality teachers in Engg colleges. AICTE can consider pay scales recommended by UGC and MHRD Notification. However, It can provide additionally Professional Teaching Allowance for faculty comes under AICTE Purview. Also the promotion should be made faster.
The faculties in technical institutions must be better paid in terms scale, grade pay and allowances to attract quality teachers in Engg.colleges. AICTE can consider pay scales recommended by UGC and MHRD Notification. However, It can provide additionally Professional Teaching Allowance for faculty comes under AICTE Purview. Also the promotion should be made faster.
Minutes of the Second Executive Committee meeting of Pondicherry Engineering College Teachers Association (PECTA) held on 6th March 2009 between 3 PM to 4 PMThe following office bearers and Executive members were present:1. Dr. V. L. Narasimha2. Dr. R. Murugan3. Dr. G. Zayaraz4. Mr. A. Sathiamourthy5. Dr. Harish Kumar6. Dr. G. Ravi7. Dr. G. Gerald Moses8. Mr. S. Mourougapragash9. Dr. P. Sankar10. Dr. G. Ayyappan11. Ms. K. Priya12. Dr. V. Vijayalakshmi13. Mr. Ka. Selvaradjou14. Mr. D. Virappasamy.Sixth Pay Scale Implementation:Regarding Sixth pay scale implementation, it was resolved that the office bearers would meet Member Secretary as well as Education Secretary and request them to grant pay arrears in the lines of either Pondicherry University (40%) pending or 1.86 CPC pending or MHRD notification regarding interim relief. In this connection , the Secretary would fix up appointments with both M.S as well as E.S. Dr. Murugan and Dr. A. V. Raviprakash would gather information relating to pay scales implementation viz., fitment formula, Norms followed by other Universities regarding arrears.Grant of Two increments for completion of Ph.D through QIP Scheme:It is resolved that the Secretary would gather information relating to this issue and co-ordinate with PEC Office.Issues related to EEE faculty members:It is resolved to request the Principal cum Chairman of R& D to seek solution to the ongoing problem within a week’s time. Further the Principal need to facilitate the withdrawal of the Circular Dated 2/3/2009 bearing reference no PEC/EEE/RDC/2/512.Review of Membership:So far around 119 faculty members have paid their subscription and others may also be requested to pay their subscription.Executive members are requested to inform their colleagues to create emails in PEC domain. Those of them who are not presently having an email in the PEC domain may send an email to info@pec.edu requesting for creation of new email account.Other matters:Request the Principal to address the following issues:To restore past rules for book grant/ Membership of Professional bodiesIn continuation of the efforts of previous PECTA office bearers, Medical reimbursement relating to list of hospitals would be taken up.CGHS hospitals need to recognize PEC Faculty Members.Standardizing Income tax computations in the PECTA website.Re-nomination of new GB members in consultation with PECTA.Regarding deposits of GPF amount in the Treasury.
Not only the pay for IITs/IIMs/NITs/Engg. Colleges and other technical education institutes remains unrevised, no part of arrears paid , even the dearness allowance has not been revised for pre revised pay scales. As per calculations below, the DA from 01.07.08 has gone up from 47% to 54% (12% to 16% under 6 PC) and from 01.01.09, it has gone up frorm 54% to 64% (from 16% to 22% under 6PC). So, 17% DA has been very unduly denied to large section of teachers who remain in pre revised scales. The DA is calculated on Cunsumer Price Index for workers whereas inflation is measured as per Whole sale price index. So, some journalsits who do not have basic understanding of difference between inflation and CPI measures, had mistakenly dubbed grant of DA revision as poll bonus and sensationalised it unjustifiably showing lack of their basic knowledge about economic issues. Some one need to take up this issue too for removing some hardhship of teachers till revised scales are implemented.
As on
CPI Ind. Workers
5 PC calculation
5PC DA Rate
6 PC calculation
6PC DA Rate
01.01.08
606.53
606.53-306.33
----------------- x 100
306.33
- 50% merged
= 97.93%-50% merged= 47.93%
47%
606.53-536
---------------x 100
536
= 13%
12%
01.07.08
626.08
626.08-306.33
----------------- x 100
306.33
- 50% merged
=104.38-50% merged
= 54.38%
54%
626.08-536
-------------- x 100
536
= 16.80 %
16%
01.01.09
656.00
656-306.33
----------------- x 100 -50% merged
306.33
= 114.15=104.15-50% merged= 64.15%
64%
656-536
Is there any news regarding pay revision of Degree Engineering College Faculty?
Hi all
At last, IIT faculty forum has decided to protest against dely in implementing pay scales. For details see http://web.iitd.ac.in/~kaushal/ec1.pdf
Hi K.M. sridhara, it seems you wrote on this hub while sleeping. Please wake up and write. Bye
Atleast AICTE has to take up decissions to announce INTERIM relief . Bcos it take one or two year to announce the revised 6th pay.All other domain people enjoying the benifits of 6th pay. WHY not engineering faculty ?
What the hell AICTE, Prof Metha's pay revision committe is doing or are they still sleeping instead of doing their job? They should know, Govt. is not paying them new revised scale (6th cpc) for sleeping. So please all ask them to wake up and declare the 6th pay scale at the earliest.
Hi Sanchita
What you telling is correct. Please convey it to right people so that can wake up after listening to you.
What the hell AICTE, Prof Metha's pay revision committe is doing or they are still sleeping instead of doing their job? They should know, Govt. is not paying them new revised scale (6th cpc) for sleeping. So please all ask them to wake up and declare the 6th pay scale at the earliest.
FROM WHEN THE SCALE IS GOING TO IMPLY?WHAT ABOUT THE SCALE OF THE SELF FINANCED ENGG COLLEGES????
What about the laboratory assistant scale..................?.B'cause the Lab. Assistant play a major role in Engineering colleges...............So the revised pay scale must have to include their scale................Which is essential for every engineering colleges.................So try to notice on this matter.....
In response to Mr. Bhaskar ... this how our system works
As per MHRD's last notification, report for Degree & Deploma Engg. college has not been submited yet. What a funny & rediculus stage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO BODY IS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
http://www.education.nic.in/tech/tech_circulars.as
http://education.nic.in/TechnicalEdu/InterMinCom.p
State govt of west bengal has already declared pay commission(5th) which will be effective on and from april 1,2009 with a notional benefit w.e.f. Jan 1,2006 but arrears will be calculated from april 1,2008. But the lecturers/Sr lecturers of the state polytechnics those who have already received 8 years CAS benefit under old aicte norm are on the horns of a dilemma!! AICTE has not yet declared their pay revision where as election notification has already been declared today. Are the said teachers are going to get their revised pay/arrears/new CAS benifit (6 & 11 yrs) along with other govt employees???.........
State govt of west bengal has already declared pay commission(5th) which will be effective on and from april 1,2009 with a notional benefit w.e.f. Jan 1,2006 but arrears will be calculated from april 1,2008. But the lecturers/Sr lecturers of the state polytechnics those who have already received 8 years CAS benefit under old aicte norm are on the horns of a dilemma!! AICTE has not yet declared their pay revision where as election notification has already been declared today. Are the said teachers are going to get their revised pay/arrears/new CAS benifit (6 & 11 yrs) along with other govt employees???.........
State govt of west bengal has already declared pay commission(5th) which will be effective on and from april 1,2009 with a notional benefit w.e.f. Jan 1,2006 but arrears will be calculated from april 1,2008. But the lecturers/Sr lecturers of the state polytechnics those who have already received 8 years CAS benefit under old aicte norm are on the horns of a dilemma!! AICTE has not yet declared their pay revision where as election notification has already been declared today. Are the said teachers are going to get their revised pay/arrears/new CAS benifit (6 & 11 yrs) along with other govt employees???.........
The MHRD has formed an Inter-Ministerial Committee to process therecomandations of Prof. Govardhan Mehta Committee on 24/2/2009.This committee will submit the report within 3 Weeks.
The Govt will not listen anything till we cry and will do the same as DU teachers don central university teachers.
Dear all
Another committee!!
the only reason for this committee is that they want to delay payments to technical teachers. aAnd you can see that there is no teacher in this committee to fight for the technical teachers. poor techies since they cant fight they can be easily taken for a ride. If we dont do dharna march strike then dont expect to get new pay even in 2010.
please declare the 6th pay scale as early as possible.
Dear all
Pressurise the AICTE, Prof Metha and MHRD for releasing the pay revision committe report for Engineering Colleges coming under state Govt's(Govt as well as Govt Aided Engineering Colleges) at the earliest.
Dear all
Election dates announced. April 16-June 1. Technical teachers good bye till the formation of new government. UGC teachers the situation seems to be grim as the babus become all powerful now and wont listen to political masters.
They answered the same today
Hi all
I had called up Prof. Nrayana Rao's office on Friday (7th Feb) to enqire the status of the Engg. college and Polytechnics pay reports. The information from his PS is disturbing. It seems they require one more month to submit these reports. So, the pay revison for this section of teachers is, hopefully, after the elections.
Dear Ravi
Your information is too old. Any new info. regarding pay scales of technical teachers?
‘Poll bonus’ for tech teachersCHARU SUDAN KASTURI
New Delhi, Feb. 28: Faculty in all central technical education institutions, including the IITs and IIMs, will receive a one-time compensation for the likely delay in implementation of a promised salary hike.
The government has decided to dole out an “advance” sum for the faculty members, its anxiety over discontent in election season prevailing over its strategy to economise, top officials said.
The amount to be paid to each faculty member has been decided according to the position in the teaching hierarchy and will later be compensated against arrears due to them under the new pay regime.
The heads of the institutions — vice-chancellors or directors — are to receive Rs 2 lakh each, while professors have been allocated Rs 1.5 lakh each. The amount reduces to Rs 1 lakh for assistant professors and just below a lakh for associate professors and lecturers.
The human resource development ministry has issued an order notifying the provision of the “advance arrears” which are likely to accompany the salary in March, sources said.
The payment — some officials are jokingly calling it an “election bonus” — now will also help the government reduce the tax burden next year, the sources explained.
The one-time amount notification covers all faculty who are to benefit from the largesse proposed earlier this month by a central review panel under Goverdhan Mehta, the former Indian Institute of Science director.
Teachers at the National Institutes of Technology, the Indian Institutes of Information Technology, the Indian Institutes of Science Education and Research and the Schools of Planning and Architecture will benefit.
It also covers engineering colleges in central universities — so engineering teachers at Delhi University or Jadavpur University will receive the amount.
The decision to offer the advance arrears was taken amid the increasing likelihood that the government may not be able to implement before elections the unprecedented pay hikes proposed by a central review panel earlier this month. The pay hikes proposed by the panel need to be approved by the Union cabinet before they can be notified.
But the cabinet may not be in a position to clear the proposal before the announcement of elections. The declaration of the salary raise after the declaration of polls could attract charges of allurement from the Election Commission, officials fear.
The pay hike, once notified, will be with retrospective effect from January 1, 2006.
The “advance” amount will be deducted from the arrears due for the period from January 1, 2006, to the date of notification of the pay hike, and faculty members will receive the remainder as arrears.
The telegraph, 1 march, 09
Dear Softies (we technical teachers, including me, sorry if I have annoyed any one),
We and our teachers associations had been historically very soft and docile. But take heart, we had been getting a better deal always though late. Same thing is going to happen even this time. A little leaked Prof Mehta report had indicated slightly better deal for us and a still better deal for IITs/IIMs (who, pls note, rarely wrote a word on this hub page and had been very decent and quiet. Not even a hint from them for eagerness to get pay revised.)
For politicians, who can be a bigger vote bank? Imagine. They will give us a better deal but after elections so that the larger numbers dont get annoyed during election time which politicians cant afford. Hence to cover the little leakage of better deal for us, MHRD Minister came out with statement that he was not in favour of this difference bwteen humanities and other streams. Nothing further was revealed. Smaller numbers will get their due a bit late and otherwise also they do not mind delay as in the past. Never mind. Let us have a little bit more patience (surely, our patience sobriety will get rewarded after a few more months).
We need not think that the better deal proposed by the commitee for us may be reversed by the MHRD minister as he has exhibited his dislike for this. ( may be by not disclosing this plan of theirs , they do not want to annoy us during election time and will do this after elections and will bring us at par with university teachers by taking aways the one notch higher position enjoyed since long.) Want to know the source or basis of this hypothesis ? Now, come on, lets us be B+ve and hence not ask this at all.
All NITs (centrally funded institutions) based on MHRD order No.F-23-30/2008 TS dated 12.2.2009 have been given an interim relief Directors 2.5 lakhs Profs 2 lakh Asst profs1 lakh and lecturers 0.75 lakhs. That means no 6 th pay announcement before elections. Yesterday was the last day for any cabinet meeting
Ms. Pratima DikshitDirector
p.dikshit.edu@nic.in
91-11-2338656191-11-23381355 (Fax)
Ashok ThakurAdditional Secretary
Higher Education
athakur.edu@nic.in
91-11-23383202 91-11-23387797(Fax)
we can contact these two --- for more information.
Perhaps this issue was not discussed in the cabinet meeting today.Can we still hope to get the awaited pay revision declared before the Lok Sabha elections?
My request to all technical teachers : ACTION SPEAKS MORE THAN WORDS. No action means no 6th Pay.
The Govardhan Mehta committee has submitted the report. He Kept NIT and Other engineering Coleges at the Same Level while IIT/IIM are higher than this. It shows that it has included the Engineering Colleges also.
Dear Gautam
The report submitted on 9th Feb did not include Engg./polytechnics pay scales. See the previous postings of Mr.Prasad and Prof. Agarwal for other details.
Dear Gautam
The report submitted on 9th Feb did not include Engg./polytechnics pay scales.
Dear Rajesh and Friends
MHRD issued a notification for Goverdan Mehta committee on Sep'08 setting 3 months deadline to look into revision of IIT/IIM pay scales. Subsequently, on persistent enquiries to MHRD, additional responsibility of revising pay scales of Engg. colleges/polytechnics was given to the same committe in Dec'08 extending the term upto end Feb'09 (see http://www.education.nic.in/TechnicalEdu/PayCom-CI Meanwhile Prof. Mehta submitted the IIT/IIM/IISc revison report to MHRD on 9th Feb'09. Now they are working on Engg. college/polytechnics pay scales and are likely to submit the reports before 28th of this month. Prof. Narayanarao, AICTE secretaty has been appointed as secretary of the Mehta committee too. In this way Prof. Rao and AICTE have major role in pay revison of the all technical teachers. MHRD is mum on the contents of IIT/IIM pay reports. The reasons are unknown.
It is unfortunate that seetting(extending) of the committee to look into payscales of Engg. colleges/polytechnics is not publicised as is being done to IIT/IIM and UGC pay committees, thus, indirectky denying the opportunity for these sections of teachers to express their grieviences to the pay commitee. We should condemn this unitedly.
Dear friends, kindly call AICTE secretary Prof. Narayana rao for first hand information on these matters.
Dear All
The Mehta comittee was also givent the task for recommending pay for technical teachersof engineering and polytechniques library and physical egucation staff along with the earlier task of IIT/NIT/IIM IIIT pay scales. that's why extra time was given to the comittee and the report for all technical teachers has been submitted to MHRD.
http://education.nic.in/TechnicalEdu/PayCom-CIT.pd
Now today is the last day for cabinet to take up this matter and decide the fate of technical teachers. If not today then after the elections.As for the post by IIT faculty forum presidents mail that model code of conduct will not effect the pay revision I would just like to remind you all that this is parliament election and earlier UGC report was witheld/cabinet decision delayed for only assembly elections in five states.
So it is my sincere request to all IIT/NIT/IIM/ technical teachers to use ur good offices and links at MHRD and pressurise for putting this matter in todays casbinet meeting. I know we cannot go for strike /dharna/gherao or we would have got it before UGC. But still there is time, dont get into the trap of false promisses of MHRD official(Ms Dixit) that elections wont effect the pay revision and press for it's tabling in the todays cabinet meeting.hope you remember that it was sheduled to be announced on Jaanuary 3rd then by the end of January and now the feburary is about to finish, and if we miss it now then July-Aug 2009 hopefully.
The scenario is all confusing.What has been submitted by the Mehta committee and for whom is not yet clear.Why is has been kept confidential, what the govt. or the AICTE is doing is not known to anybody. Is there any remote possibility of the declaration of pay revision for technical teachers-from IIT's to Polytechnics-before moral code of conductfor Lok Sabha elections are declared? Can anybody share the latest position?
Dear Prof. Sankar and Raman, Can you kindly inform me that whether the report submitted by Prof. Mehta (as it was disclosed in Telegraph, 10th Feb-09) has included the pay revision of Degree Engg. College faculties or it has only concerned about the IIT/IISC/IIM ?
Now, if it has included the Degree Engg. College faculties, then why have you contacted to Mr. N. Rao (Member Secretary, AICTE) ? I am asking this since MHRD has not approved the recommendation and therefore at present AICTE has no role to play.
But, if this report has not included the pay revision of Degree Enngg. College faculties, then can you tell me what is the present status of Degree Engg. College Faculties' Pay revision report?
, February 23, 2009
UGC notification regarding revised pay scales soon HERE IS some good news for those college and university teachers who have been eagerly waiting for the University Grant Commission (UGC) letter on the implementation of the revised pay scales in line with the notification of the Ministry of Human Resources Development (HRD). UGC chairman and secretary, Prof Sukhdev Thorat has assured a 10-member delegation of the All India Federation of University and College Teachers’ Association (AIFUCTO) that a communication concerning the HRD notification, along with the fixation formula for implementation of the new pay scales would be sent within a couple of days to the Vice-Chancellors of universities and all state governments. Apart from this, the draft UGC regulations would be finalised after due consultation with the teachers’ association.Giving this information, the President of the MDU Teachers’ Association and one of the members of the delegation, Dr Wazir Nehra, said the delegation had met the UGC Chairman to seek the issue of the said communication at the earliest.“The UGC Chairman also talked with the Secretary of the Union Finance Ministry on the issue of the state government’s share in the grant and the secretary showed a positive response regarding the 100 per cent grant for the uniform implementation of pay scales for college and university teachers throughout India”, Nehra said, adding that the Finance Ministry had also approved the sanction of new posts and made budgetary provision for state universities. The HRD ministry had sent a communication to UGC and all state governments on December 31, 2008 concerning the implementation of the revised pay scales in respect of teachers and equivalent cadres in universities and colleges in line with the recommendations of the Sixth Central Pay Commission. Despite this fact, most state governments had not acted so far on the communication. According to the HRD notification, all Reader/Selection Grade teachers who had completed three years of service in the scale of Rs 12,000-Rs 18300 would be designated as Associate Professors automatically. Besides, DPE’s would be designated as Associate Professors on the same pattern.Nehra said the delegation later met the Haryana Chief Minister, Bhupinder Singh Hooda and submitted a memorandum demanding early implementation of pay scales in line with the HRD notification. The Chief Minister assured that the new pay scales for college and university teachers would be implemented soon, in line with the notification.Source: merinews
Mr Secretary Pecta
Many teachers associations have represented to AICTE. Now it is better to represent to PM or HRD Minister (preferably PM). Even if we represent to AICTE, the useless fellows will not accelerate their work.
Dear Prof. Arora
Actually I am the Secretary of Pondicherry engineering College, Govt. of Pondicherry. I would like to convey my resentment on behalf of the teaching
community. I am also appealing in the lines of Prof. Arora , communicating
our resentment to AICTE.
Prof, can you tell me whom should we send the representation..?
Is any association interested in Joining ?
Regards
Scy, PECTA
The AICTE is requested to upload the pay commission report as soon as it will get the caninet sanction and should work in favour of teachers, not in favour of businessman. Otherwise the body of AICTE will collapse as is the recommendation of the knowledge commission.
Dear Office bearers of Teachers Associations of IITs or IIMs or NITs/ Engineering colleges at state or national level, please take note of suggestions on this hubpage. ( private sector teachers can never do so as they will be fired as soon as they become such activists)
It is not proper that any one and every one start calling the AICTE top brass. There are office bearers and top brass of Teachers Associations or Directors of IITs /IIMs/ NITs/ Govt. Engineering colleges who should call the AICTE functionaries or send memorandum expressing feelings of the teaching community in technical institutions. If you have a look at similar UGC pay revision hubpage, you will know the level of efforts those people and their associations have made to share the concerns and interpretations and interest of various sections of teachers that has yielded results. We, technical teachers will be getting something because of their activistm only and then at the straight pleasure and convenience of the bureaucrats in MHRD because our office bearers are not so active, may be, we have resigned to fate "whatever is destined is destined, why annoy MHRD bosses, ultimately they are going to give something, more or less , sooner or later, why bother so much , let us concentrate on our duties and responsibilities for excellence and nothing else- on the lines of true GEETA Gyanam." There is nothing wrong as long as all of us agree with this style or philosophy or thinking. I think we should have next level of activism now looking to what has been happening. How many of us agree to these views?
immediate intervention of the matter by our prime minister is required.communicte the problem to our pm by any body around delhi could solve it.otherwise many teachers coming under various states lose many benifits.the election commission is keen in notifying the dates this week itself.as april 6 being the first phase of polling out of 6 phases.the whole process only ends by may 30.once the E.C notifies.the code of conduct comes in to force.
WHAT TO DO?
WHAT TO DO?
It is indeed a sorry state of teachers working in a govt. engineering colleges. non teaching staff are drawing higher pay than the current pay of the teaching community. more time AICTE takes to act more will be the unrest among the teaching fraternity. AICTE should at least release an interim order suggesting to implement the UGC scales till such time it comes out with its own.
May be we can think of fixing the responsibility on aicte
Prof. Sankar and Pay Saviour
Dr. Narayana Rao threatens to stop the pay revision work if we call him. He treats our enquiries as interruption. This was my experience when I called him.
What to do? Whom to compalin? What thsese people were doing all these days?
It is unfotunate that the Govt. is shedding tears for deficiency of teachers( especially tecnical and medical) and now ignoring the existing teachers. What these so called IIT/IIM teachers are doing ( may be busy with consultancy). These people raise their voice on reservation and fee fixation and keep mum on pay revision. These people are sure of getting arrears even if the revision is delayed. UGC teachers too get the arrears ( UGC funds). What about technical teachers working under state Govts, and private institutes. They are bound to loose areears. Inefficiency of AICTE/MHRD is causing them to loose arrears.
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AICTE SHOULD CHECK ITS ATTITUDE FOR IT HAS REALLY SUCCEEDED
IN FRUSTRATING THE TECHNICAL TEACHERS..
today i made a call to prof.Narayana rao,member of mehta commission .He said the aicte notification probably comes out by the end of this month.Later in the evening from times now channel it was heard that the election commission will notify the dates by the end of this week.It is so pathetic to our community who suffer every time.IT IS HIGH TIME FOR US TO RESPOND TOMORROW ITSELF.MAKE CALLS TO AICTE OFFICE CONTINUOUSLY AND MAKE THEM VIGILANT OF THE SITUATION.
It is very clear from the various notifications or clarifications on payment of revised salary and release for arrears for government employees, state governement employees and university teachers happening from time to time only after the particular section has gone on strike countrywide or statewide. We technical teachers will get in the last (of course we will get ultimately for the sake of parities in education service) when the MHRD bureucrats are free and feel like clearing the proposal. Some of us are requesting MHRD thru thier post on this hubpage. I dont think any one from AICTE or MHRD opens this page to read it as they are not concerned. The Teachers' Associations office bearers need to immediately send one memorandum to the MHRD minsiter at least if they do not want to give strike call( as hardly any one will follow them given their docile nature as compared to bold and agressive stance taken DUTA and FEDCUTA. or AIFUCTO. May be because of them only technical teachers will get pay revised when ever it will be revised.
ALLAHBAD: This year's Holi would be sweeter for around 800 teachers of the Allahabad University and its constituent colleges as the authorities of the varsity have released an order regarding disbursement of 40 per cent of their Sixth Pay Commission arrears. "The orders have been signed on February 21 and the amount of arrears would be transferred to respective accounts in the first week of March," said JN Mishra, officiating finance officer, AU. "The new pay scales, recommended by the Sixth Pay Commission, are effective from January 1, 2006," he added. Besides, giving the arrears, the varsity authorities have also issued orders sanctioning payment of two increments to constituent college teachers who have a PhD. The orders meet a longstanding demand of the college teachers as their university counterparts were already getting the increments. The pay revision order paves way for all AU professors, including the vice-chancellor, getting Rs 2.5 lakh, all readers, both of the varsity and the colleges, getting Rs 1.5 lakh and all lecturers getting Rs 1 lakh as arrears. The university plans to disburse the remaining (60 per cent) amount once it gets the all-clear from the University Grants Commission (UGC). The varsity is set to bear a burden of about Rs 15 cr disbursing the said amount. The order, issued by the varsity registrar Firdaus A Wani, has been sent to all heads of departments, directors of institutes and principals of the constituent colleges. The disbursement is on an ad-hoc basis as it would be disbursed only after taking an undertaking from all beneficiaries that in case of any variation, teachers would have to payback the amount of variation. Now, with the said two orders meeting out the two major demands of the nine-point charter of demands forwarded by the Allahabad University and Constituent Colleges' Teachers' Association (AUCCTA), it would be interesting to see its implications on the massive dharna scheduled to be staged at the AU North Hall on February 28.
AICTE should declare the notification for the 6th pay for teachers of Engineering Colleges/NITs/IITs etc. The Basic pay Structures and cadare should be same as UGC notification but some kind of Technical allowance, other incentives like one Foreign trips per year or per Semester should be given to teachers. Provision of this type of incentives makes the uniformity in the teacher community across the country as well as give benifits to technical teachers.
The MHRD is also requested to get it done as early as possible.
As per communication from Prof. Sunil Pandey, Ph.D. Department of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Delhi Hauz Khas, New Delhi Ms. Dixit at MHRD told him that elections won't affect the process since it is already on and 6th pay cmmission report has already been announced. This positiion advised by Ms Dixit is not corrrect . MHRD had waited till completion of state bye elections and the results and had announced the pay revision for University teachers only after that was over on 18.12.08 inspite of Prof Chadha having submitted report before announcement of state elections and Govt staff having received the revised salary from Sept.08 with 40% arrears.
The election notification is expected any time now not later than 5th March 09. If the issue is put up before the cabinet committee and it clears the revision before election notification, then other things can carry on and revised salray can be paid by April or so, otherwide revision will take effect in June and implementation will take another three months as has happened in univeirty teachers case and still fit ment tables are not yet prepared after two months from 30.12.08, the date of notifcation. It is historical fact that technical teachers have never agitated and it has taken more than a year always for effecting their pay revision after Govt. Staff had been paid. I think we all should ask the MHRD, why it so happens all the time in the case of technical teachers only when there ia very tall talk about technical teachers of IITs/ NITS/ Eng. colleges, IIMs and Management and Medical Education's great contribution and value in buliding India.
The time is ripe for submission of urgent memorandum by the concerned Technical Teachers Associations to MHRD minister within a couple of days to make them aware of sentiments of technical teachers from all the instituitions. Unless we do this, the issue will linger on and on.
Dear Prof. A. B. Bano and Asutosh
Do not post the unrelaible information here. If you post something regarding pay revision of Technical teachers, kindly indicate the source/link. Do not confuse already disgusted teachers.
See the Asutosh's posting' Mehta report is out'. This information is absolutely rediculus. Even the IIT faculty associations have not requsted for such figures.
Asutosh, do not be childish henceforth.
AICTE PAY REVISION NOTIFICATION BY MHRD ONLY AFTER GEN ELECTION
No pay commission arrears to be paid before elections More than 8.3 million central government employees and pensioners will have to wait till at least August 2009 to receive the second instalment of Sixth Pay Commission arrears.This became clear from the Interim Budget presented last week, which has not sought Parliamentary approval in its expenditure estimates for the first four months of the next fiscal starting April 2009, said a senior finance ministry official.The government is estimating a total spend of Rs 47,500 crore for implementing the Sixth Pay Commission in the current and next financial year. Around Rs 27,000 crore is towards payment of arrears, as the implementation is from 2006.
Pay hike for Bengal government employees State government employees of Bengal will get a 30% hike in pay from April 1 on an average. Asim Dasgupta,Finance Minister announced this onThursday.The Pay Commission's recommendations were submitted to chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee on Thursday.The Pay hike will benefit 1 million employees and about 400,000 pensioners.The Pay Commission recommended paying employees their arrears with effect from April 1, 2008, in three annual instalments, preferably from 2009-10.The minimum basic pay recommended now is Rs 6,600. The commission recommended a minimum pension of Rs 3,300 and a maximum of Rs 35,000. The commission also suggested that pending instalments of DA be paid at an early date. All future instalments of DA should be released twice a year like that done by the Center. The recommendations also include increasing the maximum gratuity payable to Rs 6 lakh from Rs 2.5 lakh and medical allowance had been revised to Rs 300 per month from Rs 100.
Whosoever i.e whatever section of employees have resorted to agitaion or strikes have got their pay revised. So, far it is clear that Govt listens only when employees are in agitation mode. The President or General Secretary of Federation of Associations of Teachers of various institutions /IIMs/IITs/ Engineering Colleges/ Management Institutes must write/communicate immediately to MHRD that if this section of teachers are not threatening to go on strike or have not resorted to strikes for revision of pay scales, that never means they will never do so if they get the last or least priority because of being good natured and sophisticated. And if they do not listen, then agitation should follow promptly. I hope every teacher with self respect will agree.
Who seover i.e whatever section of employess have resolrtedt o agitaion, strikes have got their pay revised. So, far it is clear that Govt listens only when employees are in agitation mode. The President or General Secretary of Federation of Associations of Teachers of various institutions /IIMs/IITs/ Engineering Colleges/ Management Institutes must write/communicate immediately to MHRD that if this section of teachers are not threatening to go on strike or have not resorted to strikes for revision of pay scales, that never means they will never do so if they get the last or least priority because of being good natured and sophisticated. And if they do not listen, then agitation should follow promptly. I hope every teacher with self respect will agree.
A longest spell of 13 years gone.pay revised for mps,mla"s,governers,ministers ,president,prime minister,judges,central govt employees,psu"s.etc.......
Teachers,the makers of nation and the doctors,preservers of health are left alone
Dear Asutosh ,
Can you tell me the source ... you spelling out the pay scales of mehta's report..
it would useful
Regards
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Dear Asutosh ,
Can you tell me the source ... you spelling out the pay scales of mehta's report..
it would useful
Regards
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ugc scales implimented in west bengal and thripura
Asutosh, can u let us know the source link to these figures. or provide some more dtails. Are these figures for IIT/IIMs?
MEHTA REPORT OUT.
LECTURER, SR LECTURER ,READER/ASSO PROF ,PROFFESSOR
1)40,000 PLUS 10000 TGP PLUS DA PLUS HRA PLUS TR ALLOWANCE
2)50,000 PLUS 12000 TGP PLUS DA PLUS HRA PLUS TR ALLOWANCES
3)60,000 PLUS 15000 TGP PLUS DA PLUS HRA PLUS TR ALLOWANCES
4)125000 CONSOLIDATED
wake up idiots wake up
Hi Mr. Thomas
Sacking of AICTE is on the way. For details see www.ugc.ac.in. A committee is already been formed to sack UGC and AICTE. You can provide your view on it.
By the way, the problem is not with AICTE. It is with the idiot, useless, budda professors who are running the show there. They r very keen in granting affiliations ( even for useless institutions) rather than this kind(revising scales) work for obvious reasons. These Idiots were sleeping for fast 3 years. They remembered the revison (due as on 1/1/06) after cental Govt. implemented, UGC finalised the pay scales. Even now those Idiots are defending their misdeeds. Who will be the sufferer? ultimately teachers who are eagerly waiting for these scales. In the process, many teachers are likely ( except central govt. teachers) loose the arrears and fitment benifits because of thsese idiots.
central govt is going to constitute a new commission under prof. kulkarni to revise wages of teachers coming under medical education scheme just before general election notification
this aicte pay revision is only for engg wing ?
what abot the medical education wing?
this aicte pay revision is only for engg wing ?
what abot the medical education wing?
this aicte pay revision is only for engg wing ?
what abot the medical education wing?
sack aicte as our mps said in parliament
why the report from mehta so confidential?whats the need for making it confidential?already he has wasted five months and the general election is on its way
is he alive or not?
In support of my previous blog, I am giving herewith the referred mail, which is self explanatory
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All Hon'ble Members of IITTA, Kharagpur
Date: 17.2.2009
Dear Colleagues,
It seems that the ministry will take more time and we have to exercise more patience before we get our sixth pay revised. Kindly find enclosed/attached herewith a message received from the President of IIT Federation. I humbly request for your kind suggestions.
Regards,
Prof. P. Guha
G Sec
IITTA
Kharagpur
Dear All I have been trying to contact almost all in the MHRD for the last few days. Finally could speak to Ms Dikshit; Director who is handling the file. She flatly expressed inability to divulge any content of the report saying that it is still the confidential document and will be provided only after the MHRD puts it up to the Cabinet. MHRD has formed a committee to discuss the pay committee report and the whole process may take up around two weeks but there can be some delay due to some serious objections the finance committee has raised on the UGC report. Our case will be finalised only after sorting out the UGC matter now. She also told me that elections won't affect the process since it is already on and 6th pay cmmission report has already been announced. Our Director has also expressed his inability by saying that Directors are out of the loop. I will keep you posted.Prof. Sunil Pandey, Ph.d. Department of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Delhi Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110 016, India. (O) (011) 2659 1134, (Lab) (011) 2659 6754 (R) (011) 2652 4678, (011) 2659 1587 Fax: (011) 2659 1134, (011) 2658 2053, (011) 2658 2037 email spandey@mech.iitd.ernet.in, pandeysunil@yahoo.com
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Dear Colleagues,
It seems that the ministry will take more time and we have to exercise more patience before we get our sixth pay revised. Kindly find enclosed/attached herewith a message received from the President of IIT Federation. I humbly request for your kind suggestions.
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Prof. P. Guha
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Dear All I have been trying to contact almost all in the MHRD for the last few days. Finally could speak to Ms Dikshit; Director who is handling the file. She flatly expressed inability to divulge any content of the report saying that it is still the confidential document and will be provided only after the MHRD puts it up to the Cabinet. MHRD has formed a committee to discuss the pay committee report and the whole process may take up around two weeks but there can be some delay due to some serious objections the finance committee has raised on the UGC report. Our case will be finalised only after sorting out the UGC matter now. She also told me that elections won't affect the process since it is already on and 6th pay cmmission report has already been announced. Our Director has also expressed his inability by saying that Directors are out of the loop. I will keep you posted.Prof. Sunil Pandey, Ph.d. Department of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Delhi Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110 016, India. (O) (011) 2659 1134, (Lab) (011) 2659 6754 (R) (011) 2652 4678, (011) 2659 1587 Fax: (011) 2659 1134, (011) 2658 2053, (011) 2658 2037 email spandey@mech.iitd.ernet.in, pandeysunil@yahoo.com
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Hi Asutosh On FD concurence MHRD notified the UGC scales and UGC is now in the process of announcing the final notification. Probably, the dely in submitting pay reports of Engg./Medical/Polytechnics could be the reason for dely in notifying the IIT/IIM pay sclaes. The deadline for these reports in 28th Feb.
Yesterday, A mail was sent to all IIT-Kharagpur faculties(through webmail, by the G.S. of their association), stating that their president from IIT-Delhi (Mechanical Engg. Deptt) went to MHRD to follow-up the Prof. Mehta's report and came to know that it would take another two to three weeks to place in the cabinet. Not only that It might take further time since, finance deptt had raised some objections against UGC report. Until this objections are solved, this report will not be placed to the cabinet.
So, What Next??????.........We don't know what is the fate of faculties of other technical colleges. Whether It will be declared with IIT or will it take further more time????????????????????????????
In his remarks while submitting pay report of IIT/IIMs, Prof. Mehta pointed out the historical mistake of equating technical teachers with humanities teachers and he said he has corrected it by proposing 10% more than UGC pay. However, the next day, Mr. Arjun Singh (MHRD minister) clasrified that All teachers are equal. What does it show? We, technical teachers may not get better deal than UGC this time too.
I agree with Dr. KKR, IIT deserves better pay package..
Polytechnic teachers would be getting on par with engineering teachers..
I hope .. let us keep our fingers crossed for one week.. as the report is expected to be out next week...
what is the pay package for polytechnic teachers?
In international ranking IITs and IISc are far ahead of any one of the Indian Universities.There may be many reasons.Since I spent 42 years of my life in a IIT system as a student,as a research fellow and as a teacher,I must say that IITs and IISc are more disciplined institutes. Students politics, supported by the outside political parties, are absent.No politics,supported by outside political parties,is there in faculties.On an average Ph.D thesis levels are better in presence of many predoctoral requirements.Many such points can be brought forward.That is why IIT/IISc teachers deserve better pay scales.Admittedly there are many brilliant Professors in the Indian Universities.But when the average weight of an institute is fixed based on might be 20 criteria,IITs/IISc are found to be a little heavier by the international agencies who fixes the ranking.
As per notification a directly appointed UGC Professor will start with a salary higher than the minimum of the pay scale and so also a person promoted to the post of Professor,however a retired profesors's pesion will be simply half of the minimum of the pay scale.Government should take care to remove this anamoly and see that such anamoly may not occur while announcing new scales for technical teachers.The pension of retired Professor should be at least one half of the starting pay of newly appointed Professor rather than half of the Mininmum of the scale
committee looking into pay review for teachers of technicalinstitutes like IITs and IIMs has recommended pay hikes to stem thedismal situation of increasing vacancies.
The Govardhan Mehta Pay Review Committee has recommended highersalaries than University teachers for the faculties of centraltechnical institutions such as IITs, IIMs, NITs, IIITs and IISER. Ithas also suggested new incentives, including study trips abroad andbetter research facilities, to discourage the faculty from joiningprivate companies.
The report was submitted to the human resource ministry (HRD) recently.
Prof Govardhan Mehta, honorary professor of the Indian Institute ofSciences, Bangalore, said: "IITs and IIMs are exceptional institutionswith a global presence. We should not only have an attractive pay forthe teachers, to attract new talent, but also incentives to retain theexisting talent." Explaining the demand for a difference in the pay ofthe faculty in the technical institutions over the universities, Mehtasaid, "We are dealing with technical and professional institutes. Wehave to see to it that we stimulate knowledge in these institutions."Keeping in mind the staggering pay being offered by the corporates,the committee suggested revision of the existing pay scale,accompanied with the innovative incentives.
It said research facilities and study trips abroad were some such waysto make teaching at the technical institutions attractive.
"We have looked at it holistically, rather than looking at just thesalary scale components," Meheta said.
The committee submitted its report after referring to both the SixthPay Commission and the Chadha Committee on salary hikes for universityand college teachers.
The Chadha Committee had recommended a 70 per cent hike in pay forcollege teachers.
The report was submitted to the HRD ministry last year, but is yet tobe implemented.
HRD ministry sources ascribed the delay to the "incompetence" of theUniversity Grants Commission (UGC).
"After the notification, the UGC was expected to prepare the paystructures and issue the regulations. But we found it had bungled upin a major way in preparing the pay structures.
So, we had to take it over from them and prepare it ourselves," asource at the ministry said.
He added it was in the final stages and in all likelihood would beplaced before the finance ministry within a week.
University and college teachers had resorted to strikes last year,protesting the delay in submission of the Chadha Committee's report.
The Govardhan Mehta Committee, was expected to submit its report byJanuary 31, but delayed by a week and submitted it in the first weekof February.
There should not be any difference in the same college, let us wait for the reports.
Is there any difference in pay scales for Science and Engineering faculty in the same college.
it should apply to self financing too
Prof. goverdhan mehta report is applicable for self financing Technical institution ?
Tuesday, February 10, 2009Raise hope for tech teachers : Mehta confirmed having submitted report but did not divulge details.
Faculty at the IITs, IIMs and other technical education institutions will receive salary hikes accompanied by a bouquet of perks and research incentives under a pre-election package to be unveiled by the government.
Besides, teachers in hundreds of university engineering colleges and in the National Institutes of Technology will for the first time receive higher pay than provided by the University Grants Commission, The Telegraph has learnt.
Faculty in the IITs and the IIMs already receive salaries higher than UGC scales — their pay will now rise further.
A central technical education pay review panel headed by former Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, director Goverdhan Mehta has recommended that salaries for all technical education teachers be raised higher than that of university teachers.
The panel submitted its report to higher education secretary R.P. Agrawal on Friday, sources said. Mehta confirmed that he had submitted the report to the human resource development ministry, but did not divulge details.
But government sources said the report for the first time aimed to correct a “historic” imbalance in the pay structure of faculty in India.
At present, teachers at the NITs and in engineering, management or architecture colleges of universities receive the same salaries as their counterparts in humanities or the pure sciences.
The private sector demand for qualified professionals is, however, significantly higher than the demand for those trained in the humanities and the sciences, officials said.
“We were losing the best brains from these institutions to the private sector. The Goverdhan Mehta committee’s recommendations, which we are likely to accept, will work towards correcting this historic imbalance,” a ministry official said.
The committee in its report, however, has not accepted a demand of teachers at the NITs that their pay be brought on a par with that of IIT faculty. “The NITs and university teachers of technical education will receive a pay a step higher than other university teachers. The IITs and IIMs will receive a take-home salary another step high,” the official said.
An earlier panel had on an average recommended a salary hike of 70 per cent — the Mehta committee’s recommendations, sources indicated, could improve that by around 10 per cent.
Source : The Telegraph., Dated 10th Feb,2009
IITs and IISc have started or will start soon giving incentive to those who are fellows of some well known academies,viz,F.N.A.,F.A.Sc,F.N.A.Sc,F.I.EEE and many other societies in different disciplines of science and engineering.It includes Shanti swarupBhatnagar award and other prestigious awards.Some such practices be there in Universities also.Those who have retired with distinctions in academics be also included because they have retired because of age bar.But they are quite active.Incentives for age only in sixth PC raises this comment.
Please see the earlier postings Prof. Gover. Mehta has been given
time up to 20th feb to submit his recommendations...
When will 6th pay commission be implemented? Who will answer this 1000 dollar question?
The AICTE is requested from the technical teaching community to announce the 6th pay commission for teachnical teachers as early as possible so that teachers should get the new pay and arrears in this financial year only.
It is expected that the Metha committee will make announcement on 21st of
february. But the system of 3 tier as recommended in UGC shall be adopted for engineering colleges otherwise it showcase the biasedness and result in huge morale blow to the NIT faculty as four tier structure is not prevalent in IITs
My request to Prof.Mehta is please take proper care of Physical Education persionals,working in these engg. institutes dealing with the creams of the nation and help developing there physical proficiency to deliver.Phy.edn.personals are the the most neglected lots in such great institutes.Pl,specify proper designation,sevice conditions,qualification.and alsoPl, do hurry in submitting your report.
I do agree with Mr.Kumar. JUSTICE DELAYED means JUSTICE DENIED.
The faculty have to give a representation to the Government highlighting their resentment in the delay in implementation of 6th Pay. All the other Government servants have got the benefit of 6th PAy. Why only the teachers ( the ‘architects’ of the nation ) have not been given this benefit? We, the teaching community have to do something
Please let me know about the pay band of readers who are appointed through direct selection in 2007.
Thank you.
AICTE HAS BEEN GIVEN TIME UP TO FEBRUARY
I agree with Dr.Gupta's remarks. 'Words' are to act as 'catalyst' to enhance the action rate of AICTE. But, The teaching faculty also should initiate some actions to speed up the implementation of 6th Pay Commission. We have to register our feelings against this delay in the implementation of 6th Pay Commission.
‘Nations’ are built in class rooms, and teachers are the ‘architects’ of the nation.
Hope that AICTE takes care of these architects; and do the needful soon before it is too late. The matter is of utmost priority, the learned committee members know it.
My ‘words’ are intended to be ‘catalyst’ to enhance the action-rate.
F.No. 9-412007-TS.1
Government of India
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Department of Higher Education
Technical Section - I * * * * *
Shastri Bhawan, New Delhi
Dated : 29'" August, 2008
2-9- b s - b -
N O T I F I C A T I O N
In supersession of this Ministry's Notification dated 16.06.2008 and
08.07.2008, it has been decided to constitute a Committee for considering revision of
pay scales for faculty and ScientificIDesign staff of Central Technical Institutes under
the Ministry of Humall Resource Deveiopment. Now the revised composition of the
Pay Committee for Faculty and Scientific1 Design staff of Central Technical Institutes
under the Ministry of Human Resource Ilevelopment will be as under:
i. Prof. Govardhan Mehta,
Chairman, NAAC and
Former Director, IISc, Bangalore
Chairman
2. Shri Ashok Thakur, Member
Additional Secretary, Deptt. of HE,
Ministry of Hutnan Resource Development
3. Prof. Amitabha Ghosh,
(Ex-Director, IIT Kharagpur)
Flat-D2, 2"d Floor, 50/A, Coliege Road,
P .O. Botanic Garden,
Howrah - 7 1 1 103, West Bengal
Member
4. Prof. Pritam Singh, Member
Ex-Director, IIM, Lucknow
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5. Prof. P.N. Singh, ex-Director, NIT Suratkal Member
and presently Chairman, BOG, 'NIT Agartala
6. Dr. K. 1Varayana Rao,
Member Secretary, AICTE
Member Secretary
2. Terms of reference of the Committee are as under :
(i) Review the implementation of the previous decisions of the Council of
IITsI Government under the scheme of revision of pay scales approved
for Faculty, Scientific1 Design Staff and other Academic Staff of Central
Technical Institutes under the Ministry of HRD and in the process to
evaluate the extent to which the earlier recoillmendations in relation to
coverage, pay scales, qualifications & experience, mode of reci-uitment,
conditiorls of service etc., have been implemented;
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(ii) Examine the present structure of emoluments and conditipns of service
of Faculty, Scientific1 Design Staff and other Academic staff taking into
account the total benefits available like pension, accommodation,
medical facilities etc; and
(iii) Make recommendations for revised pay scales, qualifications &
experience, mode of recruitment, conditions of service etc., keeping in
view the necessity of attracting and retaining the best talents.
3. The Committee will initiate ilecessary studies and analysis with immediate
effect, like visiting each institute, discussion with members of the Council of IITs,
ChairmW Members of Board~of Governors, Directors1 Faculty1 Associations etc.
However, before finalizing the recommendations, the Committee will consider
recommendations of Sixth Pay Cornnli;.ision and Pay Committee set up by UGC so as
to formulate the recommendations in harmony with the recommendations of Sixth Pay
Cominissionl UGC.
4. The Committee will submit its recommendations within three months of the
decision taken by the Government of Illdia on the recommendations of the Sixth Pay
Commission.
5. The outstation Non-official members of the Committee will be entitled to draw
TAIDA as per scales admissible to High Powered Committees.
6. Secretarial Assistance to the Conlinittee will be provided by AICTE.
.--- %- (Seema Raj)
Director (Technical)
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2. All members of Council of IITs I llirectors of all Central Technical Institutes.
3. PS to HRM/ PS to
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4. FA (HRD) 1 All JSs in the Departillent of Education.
5. All Officers in the Technical Education Bureau.
ay & Accounts Office 1 Cash
No.9-412007-TS-IITS-11
Government of India
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Department of Higher Education
Tecl~nical Section-I1 ****
Dated the 23"" December, 2008.
N O T I F I C A T I O N
ln partial modilication of this Ministry's Notiiication No,9-42007-TS-I
clntecl 2.9.2008 (copy enclosed), it has been decidecl tliat :
1 . 'I'hc tel-111s oi'refe~.encc will also include:
"2.(iv) MaItc reco~~~a~entlations for rcviscd pay sci~lcs rt~rd contlitions of'
scrvicc of tcsclicrs, libruri:ins and I'hysicul Educatioa I'crsonl~cl of Dcgrcc lcvcl
institulio~~s and tcaclicrs of cliplo~na Icvel institutions. Thc Comn~ittec will givc
s c p i ~ a t c reports for centrally fundcd institutions, degree lcvel instilutiorls &
diplomzi lcvcl iustitutions"
2. l)a~.:rgrupli 4 will read as "The Co~nrnittee will submit its rccommcndutions
by the clitl of Fcbruiiry, 2009."
1. All Members of
2. All Direclors/ DS in
PS lo llRM 11's to D
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FA (NRD)/ All JSs in the Deptt, uf'Edu~ation.
5. All Ot'ticers in the Technical Education l3~1rcau.
FD/ 11;-I/ I'ay & A c ~ p ' n t s OOilei Cash Section.
Copy to Chairman, AICTE, New Delhi,
Hi All.
If AICTE is not submitting its recommendations of 6 pay scale for Engineering faculty by the end of this month (February 2009), What will be the general reaction of all the Engineering Faculty? -- None other than to start another new discussion forum.
Alas good news ! AICTE member secretary has promised that Prof. Gov. Mehta
would submit the report very soon.. most likely it seems 21st February would
be the great good day on which announcements is likely to come
After several months of hectic struggle, the MHRD has finally released the notification of sixth pay scales for the University teachers. However, the apex body, for Engineering education, AICTE is yet to notify the latest developments.
The commitee (Chadha-commitee), however, was for UGC/AICTE.
UGC seems to be moving ahead in this direction. AICTE should wake-up and act positively & immediately.
AICTE should announce as early as possible the recommendations of 6 pay scale for Engineering faculty..
good
medicl college teachers coming under aicte should get higher grade pay
The faculties in technical institutions must be better paid in terms scale, grade pay and allowances than the faculties of colleges/universities offering education in humanities & sciences. Also the promotion should be faster.
Aicte should recommend for a Technical grade pay at t
Aicte should recommend for a Technical grade pay at the
Aicte should recommend for a Technical grade pay
Mme Anbarasi pls. be optimistic
To The SIXTH PAY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR TEACHERS IN TECHNICAL EDUCATION, AICTE
The investment of labour, money, and mind for getting B.E./B.Tech., M.E./M.Tech. and Ph.D. in any branch of Engineering is much more than the getting degrees in Humanities, Commerce, & Science disciplines. The trend of opting the area of education in general is like that the best students stuff comes in Engineering Education, then next better stuff in Medical, then next better in Sciences and then the last stuff of students opt for humanities. The pass-outs (i.e. products) graduates/post graduates/Ph.Ds in Engineering are more productive and demanding in the industries/organizations/institutions etc. in general. The teaching & routine works performed by faculties of Engineering are more challenging. So the faculties of Engineering Education must be always much better paid, and should not be just same as humanities & sciences. The better scale & grade pay should be given to faculties of Engineering at each level of posts starting from entry level.
good news! i hope AICTE HAS FINISHED 4 SITTINGS OF DISCUSSION
IT SEEMS YOU CAN EXPECT THE GUIDLINES IN FEB
HOWEVER CONFLICT BET DIRECT AND CAS READERS IS YET TO BE RESOLVED
BY UGC AND AICTE...
Dear Friends,
All of us should get united and put pressure on AICTE to revise the pay of the teachers. If it is unable to do so, we shall ask AICTE to either issue Interim Relief as has been done in case of JAMIA Faculty or we should ask for the parity of 6CPC scales in the meantime. The Interim Relief or the fixation as per 6CPC will be adjusted against the AICTE pay scales which may be announced lateron. Otherwise the only persons, who will be suferer are going to be none other than AICTE faculty. All others will be enjoying the fruit of 6CPC and we will be getting lesser pay than our technicians.
AICTE has become useless body and almost functions as if there is no leadership.
A lecturer joined with Ph D should move to PB 4 as soon as he will move to Selection grade Lecturer.
AICTE need not constitute a seperate committee. It can consider pay scales recommended by UGC and MHRD Notification. However, It can provide additionally Professional Teaching Allowance for faculty comes under AICTE Purview.
is AICTE Thought of setting up a pay reviw comitee ? if so when
The AICTE pay scale should be better than a UGC teacher.Always a Technical college teachers have better aptitude. Therefore they should be better paid.
Very sad ! AICTE HAS TO BE FAST IN ITS OPERATION
aicte should at leat announce an interim pay package. because it will ceriainly take one more year for AICTE to get up and start. by that time implimentaion date and arrears will be a major problem.
I agree with Dr. SS ... may be we should go ahead..
RIT or RTI?
why discussing Mr.GZ...go ahead if you want...
wil filing RIT help in facilitating ?
When shall we expect notification from AICTE?
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I fully agree with Dr. Allah's views.The nomenclature/designation has to same as that of UGC faculty. Our leaders please be beware of this move of MHRD. This would spell a doom for polytechnic teachers. Mr. Chandrasekhar is the only leader who has gained credibility by honestly posting the things as they are.
What is the latest on Goverdhan Mehta Commitee? Someone said that some other committee to further examine has been formed? Can someone confirm the real scenario?
Dear All, While demanding parity in pay scales with that of Degree Engg. teachers we must also seek parity in the designations as well or else we will loose much in the longer run. So we need to support Mr. N.Chandra Shekhar in his efforts and act as per his guidance. Also we can create awareness of these updates n facts with the teachers from our colleges and polytechnics.
Dear Mr. N Chandrasekhar:
Ms Purandeswari Devi is already in Delhi since Monday (13th July) morning.Pl follow up with her if u can.
Thanks
Dear all,
Today, I have contacted Ms. Pratima Dixit on phone and enquired about the Pay Revision Report in respect of Polytechnics. She has informed that the Prof. Goverdhan Mehta Committee has sought an extension till July 31st 2009 to finalise and submit the Report. Please be patient till the Report is submitted. Do not comment anyone. Please inform our Polytechnic teacher community. If there is any more news, I shall post it here. Thank you
Thanks a lot Mr. NCS (AIFPTO),
We all hope this should be the last extention givent to Prof. Govardhan Mehta Committee. Let us all be patient and wait for the outcome (and at the same time start for the preparations for the confrontations if needed).
I too appeal to all the hubbers that pl do not any bad comments on any person however strong your feeling might be. Mr. NCS is here to help get through. We all are sure about what exactly we expect from the new pay scales.
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Good news !! Lets hope...that the final decision would be taken by 31st July !!
Dear all,
Don't be so much worried if something happens in AICTE. One person is not everything. I am pretty sure that the Govt. will take care of our grievances without any further delay. Regarding my earlier post that the Report was submitted, it was from one of our Polytechnic friends who personally spoke to a Committee member who informed him that the Report was submitted. Sorry for the haste. I will keep you all informed of further happenings. Let us all be united and watchful. Thank you
Dear N.Chandra Sekhar Babu please keep us in touch with your latest information as soon as possible, we are now again in great anxiety after hearing the AICTE scam.
Dear alll
Till now all of were uttely sure about the corruption in AICTE But now is the nail on the same. Mr. Kapil Sipal, Hon Minister for MHRD should now act in haste and disolve AICTE n UGC as per Prof. Yashpal's report.
Read the news on http://www.zeenews.com/news547575.html .
I now wonder why the official was caught? Where did the deal went sour. For sure this excersize must not be the first time for that officers and the institute or is it only to prolong the acceptance of payscale orders. (Devils Mind: Yet another attempt from pvt. mngmts!)
Those officials can be indifferent to hardships and payscales of technical teachers only because they dont have to worry about it for thenselves. There are managements of various institutes taking care of their NEEDS.
it's now a high time to unite and strike .in our country it's a tragedy if you don't show protest or anger no politician will come to listen.
Hi all,
Teachnical teachers are very unlucky. The Goverdan Mehta committe took nearly 4-5 extensions to revise polytechnic and engg. college teachers pay, which MHRD under secratary/section officer could have done within a week.
The Goverdham mehata committe should feel ashamed of this.
Now the AICTE secretay has been caught by CBI in a bribe case. Most of the teachers in technical institutions know the modus operandi of AICTE officials corruption practices in inspections/recognitions etc. The failure of the tecnical teachers to completely understand the AICTE functioning is causing the delay!. The committee secretary might have expected the bribe from the teachers ( probably to oversee the bribe from the pvt mangements for delaying) for the submission of the report early. Now it might take one more year for submission of the report.
It is high time for technical teachers to unite and ask for the central pay commission ( usually headed by Judges) to revise their scales instead of giving to the committes consisting of corrupt/useless professors.
All technical teachers have to be united. We have to request our association's President to join with all other Associations. We have to plan a all India Technical Teachers strike immediately. We have to seek the attention of Press Members for this strike. It should be done at the earliest possible time.
All technical teachers have to be united. We have to request our association's President to join with all other Associations. We have to plan a all India Technical Teachers strike immediately. We have to seek the attention of Press Members for this strike. It should be done at the earliest possible time.
We all have been patient for a very long period . We have waited for the outcome, which is still now nothing. We have to plan for a strike. Many unions have initiated strike for many issues. Why don't we too join with them to strike ?
Dear All
We have to request MHRD to issue OM communicating to Chief/Education Secretaries of all state to permit for adopting MHRD notification dated 31 Dec 2008 for ad-hoc fixation of pay of teachers of technical institutions in the state pending the AICTE regulation.
The AICTE is busy with grabing the money from Engineering college owners so that each and every employee of AICTE can open their own colleges. It is evident from the yesterday incident, a high level officer is taking Rs. 5 lacs then why they will listen to technical teachers. The AICTE should be removed immediately and handed over to MHRD directly.
I support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
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support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
support the idea floated by Shri S.PALANIVEL, PEC .
MHRD should be requested to issue an order for the fixation of salary atleast at par with UGC. Atleast ad-hoc arrangement should be made.
I would like to request Shri N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO, to think about the same, and have talks with MHRD.
I don't think by requsting MHRD for ad-hoc arrangement anything will happen. After all they are also govt. official .Till any minister will involve ,MHRD will not pursue the plight of teachers.
Mehtaji ka anthim meeting kab hoga?
dont believe NCS.He is misleading you.Nothing will happen for the next three months.with in two months sibal is going to sack aicte,ugc and dec.single regulatory body will come to force.the new body will decide techy pay revision
Pls. refrain from using unparliamentary words..
that too in the name tag...
we are the beggars of teaching community. says:
22 hours ago
our techy pay commission was constituted on aug/2008.its almost an year lapsed.nothing came out.the six members of the commission are 1)prof.GovardhanMehta,former iisc director and Bhatnagar award recepient.2)AshokThakur,addnl sec,higher education.3)prof.AmithabaGhosh,ex director,iit kharagpur.4)prof.PritamSingh,ex director iim lucknow.5)profP.N.Singh,ex director,nit suratkal.6)K.Narayana Rao,Briber AICTE.All these stalwarts were given time up to dec 31,2008.Nothing happened.Extension was given for 4 weeks.Nothing happened.Again 3 weeks time given,report submitted on feb 29,2009.Following the submission.an interministerial committee was formedwith 15 to 20 members.Their work and progress is still unknown.on april first week PratimaDixit,director technical education stated that everything finished,but due to election code of conduct,it could be finalised only after may 16.MAY 16 ALSO OVER.again contacted pratima.she told that they are awaiting for ugc fitment tables.FITMENT TABLES HATCHED OUT ON JUNE 4.Contacted tech education office.they told mehtaji ka anthim meeting june 7 ko hoga.NOW NCS IS SAYING THAT MEHTA HAS GIVEN TIME UP TO JULY 31.BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS AND ABSURD TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL SUBMIT BRFORE JULY 31.
says:
21 hours ago
from now onwards we have to strengthen our struggle.STEP 1)frame out our grievance properly and fax our hrd ministers.FAX NO OF KAPIL SIBAL,011 23382365.Every points should be included.FAX NO OF D.PURENDESWARI.011 23387771. STRP 2.COTACT EVERY MEMBER OF OUR PAY COMMISSION 2 TIMES DAILY.1)PROF.MEHTA,RESI PHONE NO.080 22932200,FAX-080 23600283 2)ASHOK THAKUR PHONE OFF-011 23383202,FAX-011 23387797. 3)PROF.AMITHABAGHOSH RESI PHONE-033 26682424,FAX-033 26682916 4)PROF.PRITAM SINGH,E.MAIL-pritam@gmail.com 5)prof.P.N.SINGH MOBILE-09448368413.6)PRATIMA DIXIT OFF PHONE-011 23386561.ALL THESE MEMBERS SHOULD BE IRRITATED DAILY THEN ONLY THEY WILL DO SOMETHING
pay saviourji,mera naam fakrudheen hai.everybody call me fucker with love.if it is unparlimentary,what will you say about the action of aicte pay commission
I do agree with Mr.PalaniVel, PEC. We have to request or go on for a strike to get pay at par with UGC. Now, Something is better than nothing. We have to become united.
Dear All,
Be patient, I have gone through the report submitted by Mehta Committee for technical teachers to MHRD and found that the recommendations made by the committe are far better than UGC pay. Now it is the responsibility of the MHRD to accept the report and publish it for implementation without any delay.
Dear CKS,
You say report for tech teacher is submitted, but the last date of submission is 31 Jul. Which one is true?
Half anhour back i called prof P.N Singh on his mobile phone from a public telephone booth pretending as an NDTV correspondant enquiring about the latest position of MEHTA COMMITTEE.He told that the complete work is over and they have already submitted the iit/iim pay revision report.now the compiling of nit,poly and other institutes coming under aicte are under progress.this will be submitted with in one month.He also said that the three tier and four tier system in institutions other than iit and iim will have the same master scale as recomended by prof.Chadha,with only differences in grade pay .
Dear All
Maharashtra teachers are better than technical teachers who have refused to work till they get their due. All our leaders are busy doing politics among themselves and want a seat in teachers union/forums so that the administration won't ask them to work and take classes. But no one is bothered about the bigger issue of pay scale implementation.
Let us all do one thing - that don't let your association/ union/ forum leader sit and gossip easily in corridors and canteens till they don't raise their voice for the pay scale implementation. If we can't go to Delhi at least we can make the nights of our leaders sleepless by commenting on their inaction and indifference attitude as they have enjoyed power from our vote and now they have failed to raise our common issues.
GREAT EXPECTATIONS ARE OVER.WE ARE COMPLETELY BETRAYED BY THE GOVT BY FORMING VARIOUS COMMISSIONS.THESE COMMISSIONS ARE ONLY TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC ACCOUNT BY THE BABUS AND POLITICIANS.IT IS NOW CLEAR THAT INSTITUTIONS OTHER THAN IIT AND IIM WILL BE HAVING THE PAY SCALES EQUIVALENT TO UGC WITH SLIGHT DIFFERANCE IN GRADE PAY (100 OR 200 RUPEES)KEEP IT UP UPA.KEEP IT UP.
marathas are really borne patriotic.dont be envious
good dawn everybody.iam an official of MHRD.I accidently came to this hub while surfing.I had gone through all comments.protests over pratinaji and prof.mehta found in some comments.it is not true.pratimaji is so pleasing,sincere and hard working.she raised this issue twice when arjun singhji was the minister.keenly insisted to bring the issue in 100 days plan.unfortunately senior officials to her set aside the matter in the very final moments.moreover her 2 or 3 cousins are teaching faculties of iit.regarding mehtaji,he is not only a proffessor but an eminent scientist.do you think he deliberately lags his report?absolutely not.He is punctual and responsible.IT IS THE ATTITUDE OF MINISTRY BEHIND THE DELAY OF AICTE PAY REVISION.SIBALJI IS LEAST BOTHERED.THE MINISTRY IS MAINLY ORIENTING ITS MIND ON THE BASE CLASS,THAT IS THE PRIMARY EDUCATION SECTOR.PROVIDING EDUCATION WITH NUTRITION UPTO 12 IS GOING TO BE ITS GOAL.SO NEVER CURSE ANYBODY FOR THE DELAYAL BUT THE MINISTRY TOP BRASS
Dear MHRD Official,
Please do suggest us the best way of showing our anger for this delay in implementing Sixth Pay to technical teachers
I THINK THE ONLY PRACTICAL STEP LEFT IS RAISING THE ISSUE THROUGH OUR MP'S IN PARLIMENT.PARTICULARLY THROUGH BJP MP'S.IN KERALA BJP HAS NO MPS.SO I HUMBLY REQUEST THE TEACHERS FROM NORTH TO CONTACT YOUR MPS AND PRESSURIZE THEM TO TAKE THE ISSUE IN PARLIMENT.I THINK THE MOST SUITABLE PERSON COULD BE DR MURALI MANOHAR JOSHI.BEING FORMER MHRD MINISTER ,HIS WORDS COULD BE BETTER HEARD THAN ANY OTHER.SO ALL TECH TEACHERS FROM EVERY DISTRICT,KINDLY CONTACT YOUR MPS AND RAISE THE ISSUE DURING QUESTION HOUR.
We can send a formal letter to the Chief Justice of Supreme Court. Based on this letter, the honourable supreme court can itself initiate action and send notice to the GOI. We can mention that we, the technical teachers are the only category left out from VI pay implementation. Definitely the court will take some action. This is my personnal suggestion. Please forgive me if I am wrong.
today hon minister D.Purendeshwariji stated in parliment that the central govt declared 129 institutions to be deemed universities.2)Govt is going to convert 14 universities to world class.3)introduction of RASHTRIYA MADYAMIK SIKSHA ABIYAN OR UNIVERSALASATION OF SECONDARY EDUCATION,allocating 1353 crores.4)mid day meal scheme in public schools with 100 assistance for certain components. WHAT IAM TRYING TO MAKE HERE IS THE NEW MINISTRY'S OVERSMARTNESS TO CREATE HALLOW OVER THE SHADOW.THEY ARE TRYING TO GET CLAPPINGS FROM THE PUBLIC BY INTRODUCING MORE AND MORE MAGICS.THEY ARE NOT AT ALL AWARE OF OUR PROBLEM OR PRETENDING BLIND.MR N CHANDRASHEKAR TOLD A WEEK BACK THAT THE MINISTER AFTER REACHING DELHI WII DO EVERYTHING.WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS WORDS?NOTHING.SIMPLY NOTHING
DONT SAY BLUNDERS.IF ANYBODY IN MHRD HEARS SUCH NONSENSE,WE WOULD BE DENIED EVEN THE PRESENT SCALES.RAJUJI BE CAUTIOUS
HOT NEWS******HOT NEWS*******HOT NEWS-AICTE PAY COMMISSION COULD BE FINALISED ONLY AFTER THE REMAND PERIOD OF PROF.NARAYANA RAO IS OVER.CERTAIN TECHNICAL FORMALITIES ARE REQUIRED
dont worry
every one (i.e. only technical teachers) will get sixth & seventh pay commision together
try to understand this fact that as we r very few in no.
so we have no impact on their vote bank
secondly
private colleges & their role????????????
Dear All
With reference to my previous floated comment few days back I once again inform you that the following similar clarification from MHRD may be requested/obtained as an interim arrangement until AICTE regulation is released.
MHRD Press Release
Thursday, February 12, 2009
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Government’s clarification regarding implementation of the decision on revision of pay scale of teachers in Universities and Colleges
16:58 IST
Government’s attention has been drawn to a news item appearing in certain sections of the print media alleging delay on the part of the Union Ministry of Human Resource Development and the UGC in implementing the decision on revision of pay scale of teachers in Universities and Colleges. It is clarified for general information that the MHRD has already issued Government’s decision vide communication No.1-32/2006-UII/UI(i) to UGC on 31.12.2008 revising pay with effect from 1.1.2006 and some of the service conditions of teachers and equivalent positions. Copies of the said communication were endorsed, among others, to Chief Secretaries of State Governments with clear advice in regard to what the State Governments are expected to do in order to be eligible for Central assistance. In view of this, no separate order is required to be issued to State Governments. Details of the scheme are also available on Ministry’s website. The scheme contains a provision that the revised pay and applicable allowances as also arrears up to 40% of the total arrears could be paid to all eligible beneficiaries under the scheme, pending issuance of regulations by the UGC. The UGC has, in the meantime, approached MHRD for guidance for preparation of fitment tables for various categories of incumbents. The finalisation of fitment tables does not stand in the way of teachers getting revised pay based on an undertaking to be given by them which has also been stated in paras 10 and 11 of the Ministry’s Orders. While the fitment tables are being finalised in consultation with the Ministry of Finance, many teachers are reported to have already received their salary under the revised scheme, based on ad hoc fixation of pay.
Dear Technical Teachers,
Please do involve yourself in your institution Associations. Let your institution Associations merge with all other teaching unions in your state and then, we can form a single national teachers union. We have to show to the Government that we are a majority. May be teachers alone be minority, what about our dependents, our families and our students. We have to draw the general public attention to this issue. We can not afford to go on waiting for VII pay.
NO one is ideal even mr. kapil sibal,until we get media attention and say some fuming words against mr. sibal .Nobody will listen
We are exchanging views and thoughts since months. But there is absolutely no impact over the responsible people in government. I fail to understand why such delay can occur in taking decision to give justified salaries to deserving technical teachers. Why we are being treated this way ??? This is rediculous...
I am agree with Sanket. In my opinion all engineering and polytechnic college teachers should start a nation wide agitation for this injustice.
I do agree with Prof.R.Jain and Prof.Sanket. We have to initiate a nation-wide agitation. For this, we have to promote unity among ourselves. We have to discuss with our institution's Association Office Bearers and express our views. We have to become united across all districts, all states. We have to do this exercise fast. Waiting any further will not help any of us. We should not expect that those technical professors in the top level, who get unauthorized money for college inspections and NBA Visits or a share of the consultancy money or indulge in private tutions will support us. All honest technical teachers will support us.
It seems to be a difficult option to get united quickly under a common platform. It requires time and coordinated efforts, but we should certainly do the same, even after receiving the Sixth pay. Following steps appear to be possible options to send a clear and serious message to concerned officials :
(1) A group of senior professors can initiate discussions with different media channels to bring this burning issue to surface...and to give it a wide publicity
(2) Technical teachers from different regions can form smaller groups to finally result in a huge association to tackle such problems in future
General elections re over.It will take an year to complte the formalities of revision
The Central Government has shown its true face. Rajiv Gandhi is a person who loves the teaching profession. But the present central government is very irresponsible that they are purposely delaying our pay revision. Just to win the election they had told us pay revision will be implemented after General elections.
What is there for them to think about implementing the pay revision even after three years of delay. Mr.Kapil Sibal is not taking any action on this. He is a very elegant person as far as I know and he has to take immediate measures to implement the pay revision.
We should convey our message through the media to create a strong impact.
Polytechnic teachers have two national organizations i.e. AIFPTO and NFPT. These organisations may initiate discussions with different media channels to bring this burning issue to surface...and to give it a wide publicity to the issue
MALKHANI COMMITTEE CONSTITUTED.UNION GOVERNMENT TODAY CONSTITUTED THREE MEMBER COMMITEE UNDER PROF.SACHDEV MALKHANI TO REVISE THE PAY STATUS OF TEACHERS COMING UNDER AICTE.AT THE SAME TIME ACCEPTED PROF MEHTA'S REPORT ON IIT/IIM PAY REVISION.THE TERMS OF REFERANCE OF MALKHANI COMMITTEE WILL BE ISSUED IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.THE COMMITTEE HAD GIVEN THREE MONTHS TIME TO SUBMIT REPORT.THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WILL BE GIVEN BY PERSONALS OF MHRD.THE OTHER TWO MEMBERS ARE PROF BIMAL KUMAR MANDAL AND PROF G.K ARYA.
thank you sibalji .gay ho
arjun is better than sibal
beggars are better than us.
Every people of India is fightng with the inflation rate through increased income except the technical teachers . What a situation is going on in the country? Shame shame shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Prof. Varghese,
Please confirm your last post. Does it mean that there was a cabinet meeting yesterday and the cabinet has accepted the Mehta's recommendations for IIT/IIM/NIT pay hikes?
Dear AB
The blog from Prof. Varghese means that the new committee will process prof. Mehta report. It is for delay only
Dear R Jain,
I saw your blog and beg to differ.
"UNION GOVERNMENT TODAY CONSTITUTED THREE MEMBER COMMITEE UNDER PROF.SACHDEV MALKHANI TO REVISE THE PAY STATUS OF TEACHERS COMING UNDER AICTE. AT THE SAME TIME ACCEPTED PROF MEHTA'S REPORT ON IIT/IIM PAY REVISION" literally means that the IIT/IIM/NIT part was accepted by the Govt. And Malkhani Committee was constituted for other AICTE teachers.
Dear AB
You may be right. We require clarification
Dear PROF.VARGHESE
Whether NITs are imcluded with IIT/IIM ?
Respected Technical Teachers,
Don't you feel that this constitution of different committees are cheating all of us? What prevents us to start a agitation?
The major problem is that All Senior Technical Professors are very much interested in getting their share as a member of NBA Visits or University Affiliation Committee or AICTE Committee to self-financing colleges. They got lot of money and other facilities. So, they never open their mouth for Sixth Pay Implementation.
Only the Assistant Professors and lecturers should take the lead in organizing strike
mehta commission report for iit,iim iisc,ism dhanbad(single report submitted on feb last week accepted)where as those for nit,engg colleges,poly technic.dental,pharmacy etc were rejected.it is for the rejected,the new commission under prof.malkhani constituted.mhrd will publish the terms of referance on 27-7-09
All technical teachers are requested to write their grievences to the honorable President of India by going to the president website.
Dear asutosh
NITs included in the single report submitted on feb last week by Govardhan Mehta. As per your information now NITs pay scales are not accepted by Cabinate.
Please make it more clear if you can.
Dear Prasit
I think you are correct. We should wait for detailed news
BREAKING NEWS**********************BREAKING NEWS********************BREAKING NEWS******PROF.MALKANI DIED OF HEART ATTACK.HE WAS ADMITTED HERE IN AIIMS THIS AFTERNOON FOLLOWING ANGINA
Dear JP
What is this ?????? I hope you are not kidding....
it is highly unfortunate.hope things will come favourable .
malkhani's demise would make our suffering lot more
Is this true?
naam ka kya jab six pay hi nahi.
If the above news related to NITs is correct then I request to all the respectable (except Prof)sleeping faculty members plz wake up and unite to go on hunger strike from coming monday.
Delay,delay,delay to the last breath is the only motto of respected HRD minister. It's better to raise the issue before ... PM,president or Mr. Rahul Gandhi.
In 100 days Mr. sibal wants to change education system by 180 degree but don' t do any thing for basic need.
Delay,delay,delay to the last breath is the only motto of respected HRD minister. It's better to raise the issue before ... PM,president or Mr. Rahul Gandhi.
In 100 days Mr. sibal wants to change education system by 180 degree but don' t do any thing for basic need.
All the teachers in place of giving suggestion on this blog are suggested to write to president of India directly by goinh to http\\:helpline.rb.nic.in and directly lodge their complaint. Definitely all the teachers will get the justice otherwise there is no solution.
should apply six pay in private engineering college affliated by uptu, lucknow
I am totally confused and frustrated too. Few days back, Prof.N. Chandra Shekhar,AIFPTO wrote in this hub that upto 31st July had been extended for submission of Govordhan Mehta's report regarding Polytechnic college faculties' pay revision and as far as I know that our degree engg. college report has also not yet been placed to the cabinet ..... then how these two reports have been rejected by the cabinet and can be formed another new committee?????????? Is it only for NIT (as they were not happy with the Mehta's report) ??????? Therefore I am requesting to Dear PROF.VARGHESE or AB or Asutosh (who have written this news)to write in detail along with the source of your information. Otherwise it is very much confusing. kindly don't spread any rumor among the already depressed faculty groups.
If both BJP and communists starts to raise our issue in the parliament, we can expect fruitful news. Because it is already delayed to the maximum and even if the central government approve and implement the sixth pay the state governments will take few more months to read the report and to modify according to that states situation.The officers in the AGS will delay it furthermore due to their irresponsibility.
So instead of requesting the central government, we should take our problem to the opposition. They could definitely help us.
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on monday avery thing will be cleary
on monday avery thing wii be clear regarding report
is this is the spelling of your'everything' then it will be better for us to have no pay revision for ten years
Dear All,
Let us represent our issue to BJP,Communist, and all other opposition parties including A.D.M.K
Dear all,
If any one have details about what have written previous days about Malkhani Committee and his sad demise, PLzzzzzzz Share
I must say that we have a fantastic luck, because whenever something positive is going to form, some incident occurs and things go to where they were :(
Hai
Any news reg AICTE pay scales for engg college
Please update about the developments
This for your kind information. All technical teachers are going to strike from August 1, 2009.
Dear all friends, we can send our grievences regarding aicte pay for technical teachers to Miss Mamata Banerjee, the honourable Railway Minister, because she is trying her best to slove the problems of PTTI of West Bengal along with Central Finance Minister, Pranab Mukherjee and MHRD Minister Kapil Sibbal. The problems of PTTI are more critical than us. If she can solve their problems then defintite she can solve our problem. So let us inform her through e-mails.
even in Medical colleges the AICTE scales have to be implimented. can any one please through some light on
1.what would be the pay scale for an Assitant professor with basic of 14940 as on 1-1-2006
2. if some one acquire PhD degree during sevice how incrementss he is entilted? one UGC order says he is entiled for 2 increments provided he is not promoted to higher post.
Expenses of a normal person like us who lives in Chennai :
House Rent : 4000
school fees : 2000
Kitchen products : 4000
Vehicle maintenance(incl. petrol) : 1500
Current and Phone bill : 1000
Misc. expenses : 3000-4000
Total : Appr. 16000 or above and a lecturer's salary is 15000.
If this situation prevails for few more years then the teaching profession will have to lose many talented young professionals.
A student who gets placed in an MNC after completing B.Tech
usally gets above 20000 salary. But a lecturer after completing M.Tech and 5 years of service get only 15000.
Even if the government gives any exact information about the implementation timing we can act accordingly. But playing drama like this is not at all acceptable and it is a cheap mentality to play with our life.
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Govt processing panel's suggestion on IIT, IIM faculty's pay
28 Jul 2009, 1822 hrs IST, PTI
A committee set up to recommend revised pay scale for faculty of IITs and IIMs has suggested fat salary packages for them while the
recommendations are being processed by the government, the Rajya Sabha was told on Tuesday
The Economic Times
unable to get it anand
i think it is not for the aicte affiliated engg. colleges. because they have cleary mentioned IIT/IIM. again frustration
The post is a copy of todays news paper
see the link or todays economic times paper
got it. is it for aicte affiliated engg. college
Hi all
I spoke to Mrs. Pratima Dixit Madam of MHRD (director, Technical) regarding the pay revision report of Poly and Engg. college teachers, on 27/7/09. She said, now, it is the job of AICTE to notify the revised payscales as MHRD's approval is not mandatory for it. When I remainded about the satus of AICTE and Pay panel secretary, she asked us to wait for new incharge secreatry and also suggested us to pressurise AICTE chairman to notify!. It seems the report is already finalized, it our bad luck that Mr. Narayanarao caught at wrong time.
Friends, please call AICTE/MHRD officials persistently and presssurize them to notify the new pay scales of Polytechnics and Engg. colleges.
New delhi friends are requsted to approach AICTE/MHRD ministry/minister to look into this matter urgently.
http://164.100.47.4/rsquestion/ShowQn.aspx?qno=143
Just see what a joke is going on in indian parliament. These leaders think that people from abroad will come to join Central univ/IIT/IIM/NIT for peanuts? Are they Nuts?
prof.sooraj kapadia to sworn in as new memb secratary aicte.he will take charge on 7th august.
so how long it will take?
one month
Dear cpr, is it your information authentic? kindly inform us with your latest report.
IS THERE ANY REVISESD AICTE PAY SCALE WILL BE DECLARE FOR
POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS ? ANY NEWS?
Hi all
Another Good/Bad news!
AICTE Chairman R A Yadav has been suspended from the service due to corruption allegations.
Goo news: AICTE is getting free from the corruptive people.
Bad news: Notification of Pay scales will be delayed further.
We are very unlucky. It is better advise the young generation to persue Humanitie rather than professional education if interested in teaching.
Prof S S Mantha, Vice Chairman, AICTE has been handed over temporary charge as Chairman of the Council. Yadav was not available for comment.
Prof S S Mantha, Vice Chairman, AICTE has been handed over temporary charge as Chairman of the Council.see the link
Yesterday I called to Ms. Pratima dixit (Director, Tc, MHRD). She has informed that both the reports of Polytechnic and Degree Engg. College have been sent to finance for approval.
dear anjan biswas when we can expect the pay
Can anyone collect a copy of the recommendations for Polytechnic teachers? Please post.
Friends
Give any Authentic news about aicte pay scale for
Engg. and polytechnic Teachers .
Please keep on posting the updates on the developments at MHRD or AICTE for the revised pay scales.
Hai all,
I think, many of you are posting unwanted, unnecessary and misleading comments in this blog using very nasty language.
Still you are all teachers!! Thank god for that few exceptions.
What's the latest on AICTE pay scales?
Teacher ban gaya Phateacher
One can register his grievances to president of india at the following URL.
Why can't our associations put an RTI to know the reasons of this inordinate delay?
No updates !!! People who are able to contact the AICTE office (through their contacts) are requested to find out the latest developments. India is really unfortunate country, where lot of time, energy, efforts, and resources are wasted in taking a simple decision ! How to be proud of our nation's competence ?
Dear Technical Teachers,
Please convey our plight to all opposition M.Ps.
Dear All,
By recent incidents of corruption charges against top AICTE officials by CBI, it is evedent that AICTE is one of most corrupt organisation in the world. What we can expect from such an organisation? The AICTE officials are busy in making money and it seems that they don't have time to think about implementation of sixth pay revision to technical teachers of this great nation....
Please follow the following link that reports about the submission of the report. Any further updates?
The information which I could gather from other websites, is that the Reports for AICTE engineering colleges and polytecnic colleges have been sent to Finance department for final approval. Does it mean that the MHRD has already cleared and approved the reports ?
This information is also 5-6 days old. There must be development in last 4-5 days. HRD related issues are generally taken up by Government on Tuesdays. So today, let us hope there would be some progress made on this long pending issue. Please keep on posting updates...
Dear All,
All IIT/NIT faculties are planning to wear black badges from Aug. 6 to 14th, 2009 and give a press release(newspaper and TV). You all are requested to be a part of this by showing agitation in your institution. So wake-up dear friends and send a strong message to MHRD for no further delay in the implementation of 6th pay
its our bad luck for having the UPA in power for the second tme.Desperation prevails among many of the iit teachers for voting the congress.
Its horrible that none of us even knows what's happening. At least the MHRD must tell what's happening. What's their stand on Prof.Mehta's report. We are made unaware of all this by releasing mixed opinions about pay revision by the MHRD officials itself.
WHERE IS N.CHANDRA SEKHARA RAO?
Kaam kare ja, kaam kare ja, Pay scale ki ichcha mat kar
O nadaan! Mera MHRD mahaan, Mera MRD Mahaan!!
kya kamal saab sheroshayri bi ane lagi
The MLAs/MPs decide the enhancement in their compensation and perks, while sitting in one meeting of Assembly/Lok Sabha.
The Engineering Teachers who are the trainers and educators of future technical manpower have to wait, till the end of the pay revision cycle in INDIA, to get it.
It is the courtesy of politicians and bureaucrats that Technical Teachers have to literaly beg for revision.
The nation requires qualified, knowledgable, competent and pushing Technocrats. These will not be available under the present disgusting environments provide to to their role models, i.e., Teachers.
May God Help India!
The entire committee of people at AICTE responsible for finalising the 6th pay scales should be immediately SACKED and their pensions should be freezed. And if permissible Govt should go in for recovery of 2 years salary from them.
New lot of people assigned fixed time limit with NO extensions should be made to clear the entire mess.
THEY WILL NEVER GIVE YOU SIXTH PAY THIS FISCAL YEAR UNLESS HARD MEASURES BE TAKEN FROM YOUR SIDE
IRRITATE PRATIMA.CHAUHAN.THAKUR,SIBAL AND AICTE OFFICIALS BY CALLING FREQUENTLY FROM EVERY CORNER OF INDIA BY ALL OF YOU TO OFFICE AND HOME IS THE ONLY SOLUTION AT THIS JUNCTURE
IIT IIM Sixth pay report has been accepted by union cabinet today ( 6.8.2009).
Source: PIB
Dear all
MHRD Press Release...
Thursday, August 06, 2009
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Revision of pay scales of Faculty and Scientific/Design Staff and other academic staff of Centrally funded technical institutions following pay revision of the Central Government employees on the recommendation of the sixth Pay Commission.
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19:20 IST
The Union Cabinet today approved the revision of pay scales of Faculty, Design & Scientific Staff and other academic staff of the Centrally funded institutions. The Cabinet also approved giving financial assistance to States for implementing the above revised scales.
This will enable the Institutes to recruit and retain talented and well qualified faculty and to provide them an environment and working conditions that encourage them to enhance their performance and capacity.
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SH/SKS
Good News !!! Cabinet finally has taken a good decision...IITs and IIMs will benefit....and we can now expect the AICTE pay scales decision to follow very soon...
MHRD is now required another four months to approve AICTE pay scale and then AICTE will take another four months to release notification.
We have to initiate nation-wide agitation for implementation of Sixth Pay Scale as done by Bank Officials.
The IIT Faculty started their protest and immediately, they were given pay hike. We have to go on for a nation-wide strike
when will the faculties of pvt. degree level engg. college get the revised pay commission?
Govt approves sixth pay commission to IIT/IIM.
Check this link.
www.deccanheraldepaper.com page no 8
Dear Technical Teachers,
A token strike is most essential to show to the Government that we have not paid the Sixth Pay.
We have to plan a nation-wide strike
While government employees, panchayat employees, school
teachers, municipal corporation employees, and administrative employees of various universities and government colleges have got the benefit of Sixth pay, it is only the technical teachers under AICTE have been left out.
We have to protest against the government’s “discriminatory”
attitude regarding the implementation of recommendations in the Sixth Pay Commission despite several assurances.
Are we inferior to a government attender? He/She has got the pay hike. But, we are made to wait indefinitely. But, inflation goes on increasing. We have to go for a strike.
I feel, now it is the matter of a few days only for the announcement of Sixth pay for the AICTE institutes. But, still nothing can be said about AICTE's functioning !!!
Revision of pay scales of Faculty and Scientific/Design Staff as per 6th CPC. Please follow the link...
see the press release
tech education hierarchy
It is good see that the central government had implemented the sixth pay scale for IIT's and IIM's.
They should also implement the AICTE sixth pay as soon as possible. The delay already caused is enough and MHRD, Finance and the AICTE must take quick actions to implement the aicte sixth pay.
if aicte implements pay commission does it means all private colleges uner aicte are intitled to follow 6th pay scale.
who has to decide to implement 6th pay state or central government.
WE(AICTE) R THE ONLY GUYS LEFT OUT FROM THE 6TH PAY REVISION.
SEE THE UNITY OF BANK EMPLOYEES , THEY GOT THERE DEMANDS ONLY AFTER THEY DID THE STRIKE. SO ATLEAST NOW WE NEED TO TAKE INITIATIVE BY DOING STRIKE .
OTHERWISE WE WILL BE WATCHING THE OTHERS WHO R ENJOYING THE 6TH PAY CAKE.....?????????/
Please inform me about aicte pay scale for polytechnic college
Please inform me about aicte pay scale for polytechnic college
Where is N.ChandraShekar Rao(General secretary AIFTO)???? Previously he advised to be calm till July 31, but now what he is doing????
On 6th august the cabinet,govt of India has approved the pay scales for centrally funded technical Institutes including IIT, IIM, NIT as per the recomendation of AICTE. But there are few polytechnics in all over India, which are centrally funded too. can anybody convey about the pay structures approved by the central cabinet for centrally funded polytechinics ???
Please inform me about aicte Revised pay scale 2009-10 for polytechnic college
What happened to Mr.N.ChandraShekar Rao? How long will the technical teachers have to wait?Is it fair?I had committed a plunder by choosing this technical teaching profession. No unity among technical teachers. This delay in implementation of 6th Pay has clearly showed the importance of the technical teachers.A government sweeper with no educational qualification gets more than Rs.10000/- as monthly salary. We,the technical teachers after completing P.G and doctorate,are getting only 22000/-. Don't you all think this is ridiculous? Now,too, you keep on waiting without even planning for a nation-wide strike.
We want to listen Mr.N.ChandraShekar Rao on this matter. I don't know why he is not making any comment and giving any information now. We want to know that AIFPTO is still functioning????
If AIFPTO is not functioning, we should approach NFPT
Is there any website for NFPT?
What is NFPT?
National Federation of Polytechnic Teachers
In Pondicherry, We have formed a forum consisting of all colleges which have not been given 6th pay. This is a first step. Then, this forum will be merged with all India Colleges Teachers Association to fight for teachers welfare.
It is interesting to observe the divisive moves being played by Mehta Committee/ MHRD/ Finance Dept. These persons have ensured that a set of classes are created in technical teaching community.
The country is makeing all efforts to remove classes in society by providing perks, facilities and and other benifits.
We have class
1. Intitutes of National Importance
2. Centraly funded institutes
3. State Funded Institutes
4. State Aided Private Institutes
5. Private Un Aided institute.
With these many classes, there is always going to be one or other category which will be upset.
The ministers do not classify themselves in so many categories. They enjoy perks as per level ,ie, Min of State, Cabinet Minister and others.
Can technical teachers be classified as asst. prof., asso. prof. and prof. only. The salary be one whether he is working at a institute or b or c. The classes must go.
it will be waste of time if we start chatting like this.
its better that we should keep mum till they give the revised pay scale or take initiative to do strikes which will defenitely open the eyes of bloddy politicians who are enjoying every thing at the cost of aam admi.
if it is implement in all self finance engg college, all faculty will be happy.
I do agree with Prof.Guru. We have to get the 6th pay. We have to initiate strike. That is the only one option. A nation-wide strike only will have the best impact. So, we have to plan for a nation-wide strike. So, start merging your local unions with the state unions and become united.
I do agree with Prof.Guru. We have to get the 6th pay. We have to initiate strike. That is the only one option. A nation-wide strike only will have the best impact. So, we have to plan for a nation-wide strike. So, start merging your local unions with the state unions and become united.
I thing the self finacing institutions are pressuring the AICTE in this matter. If they announce the new pay scale then all the SF colleges should give the salary. So they are pressuring the AICTE to not to announce the new pay scale.
I thing the self finacing institutions are pressuring the AICTE in this matter. If they announce the new pay scale then all the SF colleges should give the salary. So they are pressuring the AICTE to not to announce the new pay scale.
WAIT FOR TWO MORE WEEKS SO THAT MEHTA COMMISSION CAN COMPLETE ONE YEAR SPELL.
I do agree with Kumar, AICTE is most corruptive central Govt organisation. By recent corruption charges by CBI against top cadre of AICTE officials, it is evident that, they will go to any extent to mint money. So I feel that, self financing institutes can easily influence the corruptive AICTE people to delay the announcement of sixth pay scales by AICTE.
Please follow the following link that reports about the pay commission report. Any further updates?
It is learnt that the final draft recommedations are under scrutiny by the financial wing of MHRD, for its approval. Once it is cleared by them, it would be back with AICTE for the final notification. The process is likely to be completed by August 31, 2009. Please visit the link mentioned in above comment
there is absolutely a limit for anything. they are just making fun of technical faculties , we have shown our patience till now. MHRD also know that ,we will not be doing anything against them,as we r all working in self financing colleges, which have already bribed the top officials who r not depending on the salary. its a shame for all of us, as the 62nd independence is approaching, we r still struggling to get our rights.
Dear Respected Professors,
I do agree with Prof.Gururaj. The Government (Politicians) are delaying the implementation of 6th Pay which is due to us. We have to fight for our right. For everything, there is a limit. We have waited enough. We have to immediately organise a nation-wide strike. There is no other alternative. IF you continue to wait, we have to lose all our savings to run a normal life since the prices of all essential commodities continue to rise. ( including the cost of a good self-financing engineering college admission seat )
Dear Respected Professors,
I do agree with Prof.Gururaj. The Government (Politicians) are delaying the implementation of 6th Pay which is due to us. We have to fight for our right. For everything, there is a limit. We have waited enough. We have to immediately organise a nation-wide strike. There is no other alternative. IF you continue to wait, we have to lose all our savings to run a normal life since the prices of all essential commodities continue to rise. ( including the cost of a good self-financing engineering college admission seat )
Dear Respected Professors,
I do agree with Prof.Gururaj. The Government (Politicians) are delaying the implementation of 6th Pay which is due to us. We have to fight for our right. For everything, there is a limit. We have waited enough. We have to immediately organise a nation-wide strike. There is no other alternative. IF you continue to wait, we have to lose all our savings to run a normal life since the prices of all essential commodities continue to rise. ( including the cost of a good self-financing engineering college admission seat )
Dear Honorable Technical Teachers,
How much money You are able to save every month-end after the implementation of Sixth Pay Implementation to all Govt. employees? I can nothing. These days, I do borrow money from my college non-teaching faculty at month-end, if there is an unusual expenditure like my children hospitalization. How long we are supposed to do this> Whose mistake is this? Whether we have to blame ourselves for choosing this useless job as our life-term career?
Hi all,
We have to blame ourselves for committing a blunder of choosing this technical teaching as our career. Then, we have to blame our fellow technical teachers who are used to indefinite wait for getting this pay hike
Due to Sixth Pay hike to all employees, except us, We face
the following problems:
1.Our children Tuition teachers ask more money.
2.Schools send out a revised fee structure.
3.Domestic staff demand a hike in salary and other perks.
4.Cinema tickets and dining out has shot up.
5.All basic food items will become expensive.
* The only thing that remains the same is your pay packet.
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
You forget the monetary loss that we incur due to
non-implementation of this 6th Pay. Our lady faculty
members can avail only 135 days of Maternity leave,
when compared to any other lady government staff
who will be granted 180 days of Maternity leave by
virtue of Sixth Pay.
This is the fate of technical teachers.
Only solution is to march all tech teacher on SANSAD to get the scale.Otherwise these bloody politician will not listen our voice.
We are posting lot of thing on this blog but doing nothing.
good paper work
Very True Babu...
I echo voice of Mr Rajesh....... First be civilised, then expect.
Government of India is useless
It seems that the pay scales would be finalised by August 31, 2009, But it has been a terrible experience of the Government Procedures. Its perhaps easy to solve a complicated technical problem, but its very difficult to understand such unreasonable delay by Government, in finalising the pay scales of the technical teachers. Administrative Pay scales in August-2008, UGC Pay scales in Decmber-2008, and ....technical teachers pay scales...still not decided..Shameful for the governmental functionaries...!!!! And this unpardonable delay is not going to result in any major benefit...Its kind of Punishment to all of us...
I feel...we should not forget last few months...and we must form a strong union even after getting the pay scales...
Dear Mr Rajesh and RPS
We should not object with any one's name. Why Mr. Fakaruddin(FUKER) shuld change his name????
Mr. Sanket
I am not very hopeful about completion of process by Aug 31. They will find another excuse for delay. Even if they announce it, our state government will take another year to implement it.
what MHRD is reviewing or mehta commitee reports?They have to make the fitment table as recommended by cpc.The delay shows only the mentality of our politician and of govt.official . until and unless we disturb the system, no one will listen the voice .
what MHRD is reviewing or mehta commitee reports?They have to make the fitment table as recommended by cpc.The delay shows only the mentality of our politician and of govt.official . until and unless we disturb the system, no one will listen the voice .
what MHRD is reviewing or mehta commitee reports?They have to make the fitment table as recommended by cpc.The delay shows only the mentality of our politician and of govt.official . until and unless we disturb the system, no one will listen the voice .
The sixth pay report for AICTE approved institutions will be available to all of you by tomorrow- an authentic person from ministry told.
The sixth pay report for AICTE approved institutions will be available to all of you by tomorrow- an authentic person from the ministry told this.
The sixth pay report for AICTE approved institutions will be available to all of you by tomorrow- an authentic person from the ministry told this.
Dear kkp
Is it the report for Engg & Polytechnic institutions???
Dear kkp
Is it the report for Engg & Polytechnic institutions???
Dear kkp
Is it the report for Engg & Polytechnic institutions???
Hi all,
The Government will not release the notification for us untill we initiate a strike. We have to organize a strike.
We have to show our unity and show our strength to the Government
Hi all,
The Government will not release the notification for us untill we initiate a strike. We have to organize a strike.
We have to show our unity and show our strength to the Government
Hi all,
The Government will not release the notification for us untill we initiate a strike. We have to organize a strike.
We have to show our unity and show our strength to the Government
WITH REFERENCE TO KKP'S COMMENT, I WANTED TO KNOW IF IT IS AN AUTHENTICATED NEWS OR CHUMMA HE WANTED TO MAKE A FUN OF TECHIES WHO ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE AICTE PAY SCALE
Also think of Arears of last pay commission 1996, who joined after 1996, specially Govt. Engg. Colleges in Punjab. Don't know who shall decide about it. All Departments and Decision Makers already have digest their old arrears and thinking about to get new ones.
KKP's comment is totally a nasty joke for all of us. Probably, He is getting fun out of it, because as far as we know, till today, the finance approval has not yet been received .... then how the notification will come on tomorrow? It's a top secret fact. Till it is notified and published officially, no source will be dare to give any information regarding this. This is the actual Fact. So, KKP, don'ttry to make us fool.
no body talking about revised aicte scales
all are silent why we are lossing our salaries
all of you come and take desicions about job and talk about revised scales
Sir / Madam,
Please organize a strike to show our protest. There is a limit to our patience. How long can we wait? Don't you think is there any justification for this delay?
I found no reason if kkp is lying. we should have faith in our friends
What is the latest position of aicte pay for Data Entery Operators (Daily wages staff)? Please inform us if you have any information regarding this
What is the latest position of aicte pay for Data Entery Operators (Daily wages staff)? Please inform us if you have any information regarding this
What is the latest position of aicte pay for Data Entery Operators (Daily wages for AICTE CL staff)? Please inform us if you have any information regarding this
whatever Technical staff pattern given in the AICTE booklet of Norms and standard for Enginieering 1990 is not strictly followed in the Engineering colleges. Pay scales are not proper. In the book Posts are given but pay scales of the technical cadre are not mentioned. And also from 1990 to date, AICTE circular or Notification is not released showing Technical Staff Posts with thier 4th or 5th pay scales. 6th pay scales are far away for these technical staff. If any body is having information regarding, please help me in this regard.
Today, MHRD notified the revision of pay of teaching and other Staff in Centrally Funded Technical Institutions (CFTIs) following the pay revision of the Central Government employees on the recommendation of 6thCentral Pay Commission.
For Notification follow the link
Today, MHRD notified the revision of pay of teaching and other Staff in Centrally Funded Technical Institutions (CFTIs) following the pay revision of the Central Government employees on the recommendation of 6thCentral Pay Commission. For Notification follow the link
I think kkp was talking about this notification
Technical Staff norms given in the booklet of "Norms and Standards for Engineering Colleges", published by AICTE in August 1990, is not followed by several Engineering colleges in the country.
Scrutiny of execution of the norms and standards of Technical Staff who teaches in Laboratory, Workshop, and Computer Centers is not done by AICTE/UGC through their inspection and verification reports like Compliance report and Mandatory disclosure etc.
AICTE “Norms and Standards for Engineering Colleges", published time to time reveals only Technical Posts without specifying their Scales of Pay. Till date, no Circular or Notification is released by AICTE, showing the 4th or 5th pay scales of Technical Staff Posts.
Will this time AICTE or Dr.mehata committee put out 6th pay scales of technical staff of the engineering college?
Please help me in this regard.
Delaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. I think this is the anthem for the present central government. Now I have lots and lots of regrets for voting for the Congress government. I liked to vote for BJP,but I thought that if congress wins the election the sixth pay will be implemented easily since they already know about all the details. But now I feel guilty that I voted for congress.
I think after puja vacation we should go all out strike against AICTE/MHRD.so all hub member plz suggest a date for STRIKE.
first of all, Engg. teachers must form a national union. Polytechnic teachers already have two i.e. nfpt & aifpto. then we should start coordinated efforts thru these
Dear all,
It was not a nasty joke. I belived that the sixth pay report for both the community (i.e IITs and others) will be notified by 19th Aug.
Dear all,
The sixth pay report for the NIT teachers is not at par with the UGC but worst than this. So you may think about AICTE affiliated colleges?
As per Supreme Court Judgment dated 20/04/2001 on Case No : Appeal (Civil) 2906-2907 of 2001]
Honble SC has ordered to treat the Graduate Laboratory staff as teaching staff as per the definition contained in different University Act and also to give them a scale of pay equivalent to that of Physical Instructors.
Will AICTE/UGC consider and execute the above SC judgment for deciding 6th pay scales of Graduate Laboratory staff ?
THIS DRAMA WILL AND SHOULD CONTINUE FOR 7 MORE MONTHS.NOTHING WILL COME OUT.NOW THE TECHY TEACHERS PAY ARE MADE AT PAR WITH SREEKRISHNA'S SCALES.SO THAT THEY WILL MAKE DEMONSTRATIONS.FOLLOWING PROTESTS THE GOVT WILL FORM ANOTHER COMMITTEE TO STUDY ANOMALIES IN SEPTEMBER.THE COMMITTEE WILL TAKE 2 OR 3 MONTHS TO STUDY.AFTER THAT THEY WILL SUBMIT THEIR REPORT IN DECEMBER.BY JANUARY LAST OF 2010 THE MHRD NOTIFIES AND WILL SENT IT TO AICTE ANOTHER 2 TO 3 MONTHS FOR AICTE AND FINALLY BY THE BEGINING OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR THE GOVT WILL DO IT FOR THE TECHIES.THIS IS THE GAME PLAN.
Any thing is possible in this country.
Why are we silent for all this irrational treatment? Even a worm will show its protest by moving differently if it is been tortured. Have we ever made an attempt to register our protest? What stops us from agitating? This is a democratic country. We are been ill-treated. We have to organize a strike.
Hi all
Let every engineering college faculty member put up an advertisement in all leading newspapers explaining the plight of themselves. This advertisement should run to a Full Page. Next step is to send individual fax to Dr.ManMohan Singh.
I welcome Mr.Prem and Mr.Mugesh. I do feel it is high time to end our patience. We have to swing to action. There is no other alternative. As the saying goies, Hardwork never fails , We have to show to them that we are important in this society.
try to understand the financial situation of the country .about 3000 crores is required if tech pay revision is implimented now and there is now allocation for the same in this financial year.so have patience and wait till march 2010
Dear all,
We have to go for a strike
There is a news that government will pay remaining 60% of 6th pay arrears in the month of Sep 09. I think government does not have any shortage of money.
With regard to Mr.JK's line of thought, Why the impact of the financial situation of the country is linked only with the tech pay revision and not on others including the attenders and sweepers of the Government? The sixth pay had been implemented to all other Government Servants in the last year itself. How long the Bureaucrats can drag the tech pay revision? Only for salary revision of the technical teachers, the Government has no funds? It is very ridiculous.
Dear Mr.Raju and Mr.JK,
Money is not the constraint for the Government.The Government spends lot of money for all other activities. The Government is giving many things free to some sections of the population who vote for them on a majority basis and also for those who protest against the Government. The Government feels that the technical teachers are only a fraction of the overall vote bank. These technical teachers will continue to work even if their pay is reduced and there is no reason to increase the technical teacher's salary because for the last one year, the technical teachers have been continuously working on the older scale of pay itself. There was no strike, no agitation and nothing. Why implement 6th pay to Technical teachers? For these highly obedient,passive, peace-loving and splineless technical teachers, the Government is thinking of introducing back the 4th pay scale to the Technical teachers.
AGOTE delegates met our Hon'ble Minister Mr. Kapil Sibbal on 20th Aug'2009. They had a long discussion regarding the pay revision of Degree and Diploma level Engg. colleges as well as the present status of technical education system in India with special emphasis on Delhi. That time, Mr. Sibbal had told that he would speed up the process of finance approval of pay revision and would try to do it as soon as possible. Although, he didn't give any specific time, still from the bureaucrats it has been informed that the entire process (Finance approval and AICTE notification) may be completed within first week of September. So Friends, hope for the best and let the worst come. Delhi State Govt. has already announced the interim pay scale for degree and diploma level engg. colleges in the last week itself. Why not for the other state Govts.?????? Particulary, in our state of West Bengal, we are demanding it for the long time, but no result till yet. One more request to all of you, instead of showing our frustration and giving scrap-wise suggestion, better to do something, at least call to Ms. Pratima Dixit (Director, TC, MHRD)in regular interval and show your eagerness to her and share the conversation in this blog.
Kindly refer to ROP for IIT, IIM etc. notification where it is mentioned that all other colleges would get pay as per UGC pay.
A reader seems to be right as per sr. no. 8(v) of the MHRD letter, which states as under.
"In respect of other categories of institutions, pay fixation will be made as per CCS (RP) Rules, 2008 and the Fitment table issued by MHRD for UGC funded institutions vide letter No.3-112009-U.1 dated 4th June, 2009, which is available on the web-site of MHRD."
can any one give the link where delhi govt has anniunced the interim pay scales
Dear All,
I agree with Mr.SBK. Money is not an issue for the Indian Government. Indian Politicians care about only vote bank. We have to initiate a strike. With Regard to AB's view of calling Ms.Prathima Dixit, She is not the decision making authority. If the file returns back to her office, she mentions about the status of the file. The Education Minister has to speed up the process. The best methodology is to seek the attention of the Press and other media and to inform them of our plight.
yeah its right according to readers and SKA1970 comments, i just went through that para as per sr. no. 8(v) of the MHRD letter,it seems that AICTE 6th pay scale will be same as that of ugc 6th pay scale. we have to get it clarified from the concerned authorities, otherwise we will be simply dreaming of 6th pay scale?
Dear Prof.Gururaj,
The notification pertains to ALL Centrally Funded Technical Institutions. In serial no: 8, Please refer sub-division (iv) wherein it has been the cases of IITs,IIMs, IISc, IISERs and NITIE and in sub-division (v), the notification refers to other categories of institutions - this will imply all other Categories of Centrally Funded Technical Institutions other than IITs,IIMs, IISc, IISERs and NITIE. So, if we were wait, we have to wait for the next 4th Pay commission to be implemented to us.
I think Franco is correct, that sr. no. 8(v) of the MHRD letter related to other CFTIs.
Engg. & polytechnic college teachers have to wait for another notification.
Rather then remaining in confusion, why should we not clarify that with MHRD or AICTE?
If you go through the news item in http://educator.rediffiland.com
it is clear that AICTE report for Engg. & polytechnic college teachers will be published after 31 Aug 09
Dear Dr.PPF,
I am not able to see any confirmation regarding AICTE report for Engg. & polytechnic college teachers will be published after 31 Aug 09. I feel that this is yet another reason to unnecessarily wait. As the saying goes, Today is the best day - I request all of our technical teachers to initiate the strike at the earliest. Strike is the only solution. Please plan a strike at the earliest.
Do any one can give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer ?
Do any one can give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer ?
Do any one can give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer ?
You are right Franco, we should plan the strike at earliest
i think ,5 sept will be a very good date for strike (or mass casual leave)by the faculty of all aicte affillated institute.
Dear Dr.Franco,Dr.Gurjar and Dr.PPF,
5th September is a very good day to go for a strike. Cattle will be given due respect yearly once on Pattu Pongal, a day after Pongal festival in South India. After that, Cattle will be given the usual treatment. Like that, we, technical teachers, will be honored only on 5th September. If and only if, we go for a strike on 5th September, the Government will understand our plight.
Dear Dr.P.RAm,
No one can able to give the latest status of the recommendation of AICTE pay scale for POlytechnic Lecturer- because as Dr. SBK pointed out only if we go for a strike, then only the Government will AICTE release the recommendation for 6th Pay.
September 5th is the best day. We have to swing into action.
We will adopt the IIT Faculty slogan itself - "Our Dignity is at stake". This denotes our status too.
The IIT professors are going for a hunger strike on sept 5th, if the HRD does not respond to their demands. it is sure that the HRD will go according to IIT prof wish list. only the AICTE FACULTY will be left out. atleast now we should take initiative to go for hunger strike on August 31st and give the deadline for HRD , otherwise kapil saab will not look into our side. there is a saying in our place that " devaru saha vara keladidre, sumne vara kodalla" means God also does not give anything unless it was asked by a devotee. it is better we unite together and ask for the pay revision.
Dear Prof. Gururaj,
Bekkige Gante kattuvaru yaru? Hangagige namma prasthithi. (Means: Who will bell the cat? This is our pathetic state).
Although,most of the teachers are in favour of strike or.., there is nobody/organization to intiate/lead us. This weakness of ours is being exploited by MHRD/AICTE.
yeah its true, no one is there to lead the team.
today pranab mukerjee announced the 6th pay's remaining 60% arrears to the central govt employees & pensioners. though we r all sincerely working and creating lakhs of engineers who r the graduating as global product.
so it is the high time that we can forcefully demand these politicians to take immediate actions against the concerned authorities who have been bribed by our own managements who r doing business in the education field.
Dear Prof.Gururaj and Dr.Prasad,
It is in fact true that no one is there to lead the team. But, we are also directly affected by this indifferent politicians. We have to explore all options to initiate the process of uniting all the technical teachers. Why we have to be left alone under the banner of 'Technical Teachers'? We will merge will the existing UGC faculty union. We have not got any benefit by just waiting for a separate pay slab exclusively for 'Technical Teachers'. The fact is we may even get less than the UGC scale of pay, even without taking into account the interest lost for our due salary for this one year.
First let all engineering colleges in a state form a single union. Then all these unions can form a consortium of sort and unite under a single banner. There is no public awareness of our plight. Only we are discussing this issue.We should make others also discuss this issue. So lets use the media . As far as the Manmohan Singh government is concerned 6 pay commission has been implemented. Thats it. Others have been getting this increased pay for 12 months already. Lets get into action .
Defnitely we will get 6th pay before 31st March-2010
One thing we can start right now, All of us should write to PM of India. He should receive at least thousand mail about our problems. The link is
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
I already posted one.
You Idiot SBK,
you don't talk about some sections of the population who vote for them. you just focus on our salaries don't rubbish.
this is the worning to everyone who is speaking about backword caste guys.
I strongly oppose the comment made by MNN. The comment made by SBK is very general and does not indicate to any caste. MNN should not interpret it as a comment against any specific class.
Such abusive word should not be tolrated at this hub. Every one has to oppose.
This is requested to delete MNN comment from this hub.
What kind of situation is this ? The employees of Govt and others will receive the remaining 60 % of arrears and on the other side...we are yet receive the announcement..Its indeed shameful !!!
Dear Dr.MNN,
My comment pertains to general population who take pain to go the Polling Booths and vote in a majority. I have no reference to any caste. I do focus on only technical teachers not getting their 6th Pay for the past one year. I do request you too to focus only on our technical teachers plight.
Dear All,
I do welcome Dr.PPF. Let us write to the PM. I have also posted one letter now to the PM using this link :
Respected Technical teachers,
The move initiated by PPF is great. Instead of blaming the system, he has started a new move. I too posted my request to the PM now. I request you all to post your messages to the PM using this link :
It is a nice idea. I too have posted the message regarding technical teachers plight in that link:
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
Please all of us post your message. Please do not argue that this will have some effect or not. This is the simplest thing we can do as a mass. Let us all do it.
Dear All,
A good idea has been given by AG. We all will write letters to the Editorial Column - 'Letters to the Editor' highlighting our plight. But, as a mass, we also will send letters to the honorable Prime Minister of India using this link -
Dear Kumar and friends,
Your idea is good. We can think one step ahead. That is,I feel, we all (UGC+AICTE) teachers can demand to include us in central paycommission itself so that at least we get our scales revised in time. As some of our friend have suggested, we can write to the PM in this regard.
dont blame polititians for everything.it is the babus of mhrd and aicte ,responsible for threefourth of our problems.lack of union contributes the rest
The revised pay scales on par with that of IIT/IISc/6th CPC being demanded is only for the faculty of Government Colleges or for the faculty of private engineering colleges also. Please clarify.
The revised pay scales on par with that of IIT/IISc/6th CPC being demanded is only for the faculty of Government Colleges or for the faculty of private engineering colleges also. Please clarify.
Dr. PPF have initiated great idea. Let all of us post a letter in to honorable PM as Grievances. No matter if it is giving some effect or not. This is the simplest thing we can do at this moment. I too have posted a grievance to PM using the link
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
All of us must do it at earliest
Hi friends I had also posted my grievance to PM using the below link.
Hi All,
The idea initiated by Dr.PPF is great. Let us all state our grievances to the honorable Prime Minister through this link.
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm. I have just posted my message.
I request all of our friends to post the request to the PM. Please do inform all our technical teachers. Simple blaming is useless. This is the best thing , we can do at this juncture.
Dear Dr.Fucker,
Let us stop blaming. Let us swing into action. Please post our grievances to the PM using the link specified by Dr.PPF. I have posted the letter just now.
Dear All
Apart from writing to PM, try to call
Pratima dixit (Phone:011 23382698),
Director,
Tecnical Education, MHRD,
persistently. And ask her why the notification for Engg. colleges and polytechnics is delayed, instead of asking when. She is the authority in issuing the notifiaction. When I asked so, she gave very evading answer and she is not consistent in informing date of notification as well (sometimes befor aug, some other times one more month, etc..).
Friends, this could accelerate the speed of their work (really, they do not have any work regarding notification. It is going to be one line notification; AICTE is as per UGC. For this they are delaying so much. Ofcourse many doubts arise. One strong doubt is that Prof. Narayanarao is not there to help privitae managements.Therfore,.....).
Important:
Also, remind her that they (6th CPC) have got revised scales exactly one year back and full arrears, and why we are deprived of this.
I hope friends visiting this hub do it today.
We will both make phone calls to Ms.Prathima Dixist and also post our grievences through email to our PM
I have already call -->
Pratima dixit, in this no.
Phone:011 23382698
But they give me another no. 01123386561
Please any body tell me about any conversation with mrs Dixit.
Dear all,
I have given MHRD secretary phone number in my previous posting(asking yoy to call Pratima dixit). Kindly note down 011 23386561 is Pratima Dixit's actual number. However,most of the time this number will be connected to Fax). Therefore I had given 011 23382698. Any way try to contact both numbers(Let MHRD secretary also know our plight).
The idea ia good
Let us all state our grievances to the honorable Prime Minister through this link.
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm.
I have just posted my message.
Dear All,
I have also posted the non-implementation of 6th PAY to the technical teachers. Something is better than nothing
Is it true that all other engg colleges pay scales would be at par with UGC scales ? Is there any such mention in the CFI's pay scales notification ? Kindly update on the status.
Dear Dr. Sanket,
Yes, the fact is true. We, the technical teachers , have been made to wait for more than one year to get less pay or equal pay as compared to UGC scale of pay.
Please do post your grievance to the PM
This is really rediculous if it is true !! Unbelievable !!!Perhaps government is downgrading the technical education in the country, by misbehaving this way !!! We really feel , cheated after waiting for than one year.
I have also posted my grievances for delay in notification of revised AICTE pay scale for Polytechnic and Engineering college teachers to the honorable Prime Minister.
Mr. sibal is notjing but one another arjun singh is in making. in 100 days he wish es to pass the bill so that he can get popularity for right to education. but he does not care who are giving education. he knows that AIcte is corrupt body then why he himself after knowing that tech. teachers are not getting their due ,do something.
B'coz it will not give him publicity.
Better do some thing, wait is now more than 1 year. No harm in posting a letter to Honorable PM.
I have posted my grievances to Honorabale PM using the link
http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm.
Dear Friends
Do you think priminister/PMO will go through all our griviences regarding pay revision and initiate action? I donot think that happens in this country. Try to call Pratima Dixit (Phone nos. given in my previous posing on this hub) who is the concerned authority to notify the revsion. At least presssure from the teachers woul have some impact on speed of her work. Try to call her first. Then to PMO.
I do agree with Rajesh. But sending a letter to PM is the little we can do without making much effort. there should be 1000 mails to PMO and look what happened.
We should also call Ms Dixit as suggested by Rajesh.
By 10th of september, AICTE will declare report. All work is going on at very fast rate.
By 25th of september,final notification comes.All work is going on at very slow rate
I too posted a mail to PM using
Dear All,
We have waited enough. No matter it is 10th September or 25th September, I am sure the final notification will not be released from AICTE. We have to do something. Posting a mail to PM office is a good idea. Let us all do it. I have posted the message to the honourable PM.
I have posted the message to honorable PM, Unity of engineering faculty is required to represent the issues on 6th pay commission.
This problem of delay in announcing the AICTE pay scales officially for the implementation by all colleges, can only be solved , if the MPs of the respective areas raise the issues in the Parliament. It can be initiated by a few technical teachers who have good contacts/relations with such MP. I have my doubts on our ability to form an association at national level. (Otherwise, it would have materialised by now). Everyone, including myself, keeps on writing on this blog, and waits for others to take the initiative. Our patience has been tested beyond limits, but then also, we are unable to put up any significant pressure on the government. We have been treated so badly, insulted badly by such ignorance, avoidance,as if our salary is not so important, and we are also proving that our tolerance is great. I would request those faculty members who have connections with some political people, to use that connection to find the solution of this delayed announcement. We now know that we are not going to get anything extra, more than UGC. Our salaries would be down-graded, but government has been successful in making us so tolerant, that we will now accept whatever that is offered (after one year)...And what a misfortune...we are not able to even raise a question...that why is this delay ????
This problem of delay in announcing the AICTE pay scales officially for the implementation by all colleges, can only be solved , if the MPs of the respective areas raise the issues in the Parliament. It can be initiated by a few technical teachers who have good contacts/relations with such MP. I have my doubts on our ability to form an association at national level. (Otherwise, it would have materialised by now). Everyone, including myself, keeps on writing on this blog, and waits for others to take the initiative. Our patience has been tested beyond limits, but then also, we are unable to put up any significant pressure on the government. We have been treated so badly, insulted badly by such ignorance, avoidance,as if our salary is not so important, and we are also proving that our tolerance is great. I would request those faculty members who have connections with some political people, to use that connection to find the solution of this delayed announcement. We now know that we are not going to get anything extra, more than UGC. Our salaries would be down-graded, but government has been successful in making us so tolerant, that we will now accept whatever that is offered (after one year)...And what a misfortune...we are not able to even raise a question...that why is this delay ????
This problem of delay in announcing the AICTE pay scales officially for the implementation by all colleges, can only be solved , if the MPs of the respective areas raise the issues in the Parliament. It can be initiated by a few technical teachers who have good contacts/relations with such MP. I have my doubts on our ability to form an association at national level. (Otherwise, it would have materialised by now). Everyone, including myself, keeps on writing on this blog, and waits for others to take the initiative. Our patience has been tested beyond limits, but then also, we are unable to put up any significant pressure on the government. We have been treated so badly, insulted badly by such ignorance, avoidance,as if our salary is not so important, and we are also proving that our tolerance is great. I would request those faculty members who have connections with some political people, to use that connection to find the solution of this delayed announcement. We now know that we are not going to get anything extra, more than UGC. Our salaries would be down-graded, but government has been successful in making us so tolerant, that we will now accept whatever that is offered (after one year)...And what a misfortune...we are not able to even raise a question...that why is this delay ????
I would also like to request Prof.N. Chandra Shekhar,of AIFPTO, and all others who are holding such positions to kindly take the initiatives to solve this issue, to bring respect to our teaching profession. I find it quite frustrating and demoralising, while facing such a treatment by the government.
Engg Teachers should form a UNION now
ENGG TEACHERS AND POLYTECHNIC TEACHERS SHOULD JOINTY REPRESENT THIS MATTER TO HIGHER AUTHORITY FOR REVISED AICTE PAY SCALE AS EARLY AS POSIBLE.
No one is giving us any authentic information regarding the pay revision of technical teachers.Previously it was 31st August to notify the Aicte Pay but now I find that somesays it is 10th and another says it is 25th September to notify it ie both are contradictory.Actually no one is really bother regarding our plights whether it is MP or Minister or any portfollio holder our organisations.Only we have to wait...wait...wait.. without doing any protests because we are so spineless and after waiting like this one day we will see that it is already one or two years over.Politicians who are responsible for this delay are misguiding and depriving all of us.
PROF.MALKHANY TO SUBMIT AICTE PAY REVISION REPORT BY OCTOBER 4.EARLIER PROF.MEHTA SUBMITTED IIT/IIM PY REVISION REPORT.THE PROCESSING OF MALKHANI REPORT TAKES 2 WEEKS.THE FINAL NOTIFICATION FROM AICTE AFTER MHRD SANCTION WILL BE BY THE END OF NOVEMBER
Prof. Varghese
It was not confirmed regarding constitution of such committee. Kindly inform us the source of your information.
Dear All,
Waiting any further for new committees to be formed for technical teacher's implementation of Sixth Pay can not be tolerated. If we are to get the same salary or less than that of UGC, What is the purpose of this delay? One thing is very clear. We do not have any unity or no association. Please write letters to the Editors of all leading national or local newspapers highlighting our plight. Do encourage all your colleagues to send mail to the PM
Dear Friends,
Please write our grievances to the letters to the Editor of all national newspapers.
Dear Prof. Vargheese
Donot sread rumors. Such informationn hurts us. I have personally spoke to Pratima Dixit (director, technical, MHRD) regarding the formation of Malkhani committee. She outrightly denied about it. She is the authority of signing the Pay revision notification. If you want call her and get it confirmed.
By the way, if at all you are true, what is the source of your information on formation of Malkhani committee?
GOVT IS GOING TO DISSOLVE UGC,AICTE AND DEC BY OCTOBER END.NOTIFICATION REGARDING PAY SCALES OF UGC AND AICTE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE NEW BODY.
LAST EVENING I CALLED PROF MEHTA AT HIS RESIDENCE IN BANGLORE AND ENQUIRED ABOUT ANY NEW COMMITTE FOR AICTE PAY REVISION.HE TOLD ME A NEW COMMITTEE UNDER PROF.SACHDEV MALKHANI TO REVIEW WHAT PROF MEHTA RECOMENDED WAS CONSTITUTED IN JUNE AFTER THE INTERMINISTERIAL COMMITTEE FAILED TO DO THE SAME.PROF.VARGHESE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THE OFFICIALS OF AICTE AND MHRD ARE TELLING LIES.THEY KNOW THEIR BODIES ARE GOING TO DISSOLVE SOON.SO THEY WANT TO STICK ON FOR SOME MORE TIME
election code of conduct came in to force.two month delay expected
MHRD has accepted the pay scales for Polytechnic and Engineering college teachers and has recommended to AICTE
SABOOTH?
This is to request all contributors to kindly provide authentic information about the latest developments/the status. Atleast, we should pay respect to each other, when we are not getting the same from government.
Dear RK
Are you sure? If so, kindly let us know the source fo information and notification details.
Dear RK
Please give authentic information because you know how stressed we are due to the delay.
Dear RK
Kindly tell us source of your information
I called pratimaji yesterday.She told me so.
Thanx RK
Now we should wait for notification
Dear Rk
If it's true then i must really thank you for informing this
highly expected news.
if RK is right, then we will be delighted by his information.
but one thing is, we have seen enough of these kind of informations which were running through out this year.
Any way let us hope for the best to happen for all the AICTE faculties.
JAI HO AICTE......?
dear friends,you are hearing so many news.But we are continously visiting MHRD. Now latest information is that for degree level file has been signed and for diploma level file will be signed by this friday (4-09-2009). Then both the files will be sent to AICTE on monday or tuesday (7 or 8th september) for final notification.It is expected that by 10th or at the most by 15th of september notification will be at yor table. This is 100% authentic information. And as soon as these files are sent to AICTE I shell inform you immediately. Best of luck.
dear friends,you are hearing so many news.But we are continously visiting MHRD. Now latest information is that for degree level file has been signed and for diploma level file will be signed by this friday (4-09-2009). Then both the files will be sent to AICTE on monday or tuesday (7 or 8th september) for final notification.It is expected that by 10th or at the most by 15th of september notification will be at yor table. This is 100% authentic information. And as soon as these files are sent to AICTE I shell inform you immediately. Best of luck.
Dear Prof. Gururaj,
It is difficult to say "Jai Ho AICTE". You have rightly put a "?" at the end. This organisation has never worked in favour of technical teachers. It has not helped the growth of technical education in India. It would be the right step by government if this useless body is scrapped at the earliest.
Notification will be issued next week by AICTE
Dear All,
No authorized news has been released to Press and Media regarding AICTE Notification Issue date.
What prevents us from writing letters to the Editors of various newspapers requesting them to publish a article regarding the fate of Technical Lecturers - What sort of difficulty we go through in getting selected as a teaching faculty in a well-recognized colleges and end of the day, we are the last category of employees to receive the pay hike. At least, this will prevent new job seekers to avoid this pitiable career of teaching technical education.
Dear Dr RK,
Thank you that you are sharing information which is, at present, vital for all of us. Will you please give us the source of information ?
Dear all,
1.It is very good to see that many colleagues are making several efforts to extract some information on the latest status of new AICTE pay scales. But it is my sincere request to all that we should post only authentic information on the web to avoid confusion amongst ourselves.
2.It is nothing less than criminal on the part of the MHRD/AICTE to delay the notification of pay revision for Engineering Colleges. I think we should press upon the HRD Minister Mr. Sibbal and the Acting Chairman of AICTE Prof. Mantha to take personal interest in this matter to resolve the deadlock.
3.As the NCHER is going to be formed very soon, and AICTE is going to be scrapped in the process, therefore Prof. Mantha is requested to kindly not to miss this great opportunity of having the best wishes and gratitude of all the technical teachers fraternity.
4.The faculty associations of all Engineering Colleges should write through (Letters/FAX/Email) to these functionaries repeatedly to address to our genuine demand at the earliest.
5.Our non-teaching colleagues have already started to enjoy the benefits of revised pay. But with each passing day, our teaching community is becoming more and more anxious about new pay scales and therefore not able to concentrate fully on the teaching.
6.Even if the AICTE is going to announce it soon, the respective State Govts. will still take several more months to get the same implemented as it has happened in the past. Therefore, our struggle is not going to end here.
But any how, we must not loose heart. Let us hope for the best and wish to get some good news on the Teacher's Day.
Dear teachers,yesterday evening i met one seniormost official of aicte.He told me that national council for higher education and research is going to be constituted on oct 2,birthday of mahatmaji.All the bodies of higher education including ugc.aicte,ncert,dec etc are going to be dissolved at the earliest.There is strict order from the ministry to complete ALL the pending works in a speedy manner so that NCHER can have smooth initial functioning.Except iit/iim/iisc pay revision,everything regarding remaining technical teachers will be considered by NCHER after its formation in a warline manner.so i request everyone be calm and patient till the end of october
what the bloody hell is going on?
What a bad news from NCS. We should keep on sending grievences to PMO using link
let us wait up to october 31 as NCS says
NCS IS BETRAYING US.HE MIGHT BE THE SPOKESMAN OF PRIVATE LOBBY
what a tragedy for all the aicte faculties?
all the faculties of iit/iim/nit/ugc have all got their 6th pay demands before 5th sept ( teachers day).
still these bloddy govt wants to constitute a commitee for doing the pending works of aicte.
forget about the 6 th pay revision, the bloddy officials of aicte are boneless who could have pressurised the MHRD.
We r definitely hurt by these kind of non uniformity which the central govt is doing.
majority of the indian engg gradutes are coming out of enng colleges/polytechniques which are under aicte , these bloddy politicians also know htis fact and simply they are all making fun of us.
literally we should not tolerate these bloddy higher authorities who are following different strategy among the facuties of different organisation ( l;ike ugc,iit;/iim/nit/ aicte).
atleast we shoul now be active by giving a deadline for these bloddy peoples.
we should wait till sept 5th ( teachers day).
if they dont release the aicte notifiction , we will boycot the classes as did by the iit/iim prof.from 7th sept 2009. ( as 6thb sept is on sunday)
we also have self esteem and caliber which is as equal as the faculties of ugc/iit/iim/ etc....
this is really unjustice which we r all facing.
let us take a firm decision to boycott the B.E/M.E/MCA/MBA. classes which we r handling.
all should wear blackbands tomorrow
you shoud never measure all polititians with same scale.you must know our late YSR.He was a man of vision.a vigilant,vibrant and responsible polititian.kapil should learn a lot from him.the teachers of Andhra lost their guardian through his sad demise.Andhra pradesh is the first state to impliment sixth ugc pay for university teachersKAPIL IS THE WORST HRD MINISTER AFTER INDIAN INDEPENDANCE.THERE IS A LOT OF TIME FOR HIM TO MAKE NEW AND NEW POLICIES.DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY HE LAUNCHED A NEW SCHEME OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THROUGH POLYTECHNICS.BUT HAS NO TIME TO LOOK IN TO OUR MATTER.WE ARE HIGHLY UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM AS OUR MINISTER
Thanks to CPR for your comments. I think you are right. I request all of you to think his comments. I also see that MHRD department is depriving us in the pretext of constituting the NCHER because others ie iit/nit/iim/ugc are getting the 6th pay commission's scale but we are not getting that.If MHRD is really willing to pay 6th Pay scale then they can do that before forming NCHER as they did for iit/iim/nit/ugc.I therefore request all of you to think of their tricks of cheating and lingering the matter.So we should take immediate actions to prevent any further delay.
Dear Mr. aaa,
What are your comments on news from NCS. It is quite different from what you had indicated two days ago. Has the situation changed today? Do you concur with this information per your souce of information. Please advise.
2. Dear all,
Who is our reprentative association of technical teachers? For the last more than a year, they have just spoken to Ms. Pratima Dixsit only at various times. Now they are totally silent. I suggest instead of burning within for rightful due, they should speak to some local Delhi teachers and take a delegation to Mr. Sibal and know from horse's mouth where the matter stands? I think every one feels strong need to form statewise associations of tech teachers and federation of associations to take up the teachers' issues like UGC teachers have done. Otherwise, let us leave to fate.
Dear Mr. aaa,
What are your comments on news from NCS. It is quite different from what you had indicated two days ago. Has the situation changed today? Do you concur with this information per your souce of information. Please advise.
2. Dear all,
Who is our reprentative association of technical teachers? For the last more than a year, they have just spoken to Ms. Pratima Dixsit only at various times. Now they are totally silent. I suggest instead of burning within for rightful due, they should speak to some local Delhi teachers and take a delegation to Mr. Sibal and know from horse's mouth where the matter stands? I think every one feels strong need to form statewise associations of tech teachers and federation of associations to take up the teachers' issues like UGC teachers have done. Otherwise, let us leave to fate.
somebody is making fool of you in this hub.Both mhrd and finance sanctioned and passed the file to aicte for notification.As you know, in previous notification there were 43 pages.similarly this time too there is lot of work to be done from the part of aicte.aicte has to notify it for several sections separately.it takes 2 weeks minimum.so at this point we have to pressurize aicte office for early release of the report.yesterday i called to the numbers of acting chairman,sdo,bharatram,new member secratary paliwal and several other officials.nobody were in their seats.it indicates the condition and atmosphere of the office.NOW WE ARE IN THE LAST LAP.SO EVERY BODY SHOUL CONTACT AICTE OFFICE BY GOING IN TO THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITE .CALL MANTHA BHARATRAM AND PALIWAL FREQUENTLY AND PRESSURIZE THEM FOR EARLY RELEASE OF OUR REPORT.THE BALL IS NOW IN AICTE'S COURT
Happy Teacher's Day to all fellow teachers.
HAPPY TEACHERS' DAY
HAPPY TEACHERS' DAY
I enquired about the information posted by NCS ( regarding merging of AICTE, UGC....) with pratima dixit. The information provided by NCS is absolutely wrong. She said,internal finance of MHRD has sought certain clarifications. After that they are going to direct the AICTE to notify. This is what is being happening. It is better some one in Delhi meet Pratima DIxit and persue the matter for speedy disposal. I think NCS might be misleading. What is the necessicity of he asking us to be calm?
Dear friends,by next week files will be sent to AICTE for final notification.Mr. NCS IS sitting far away from delhi.And we go to MHRD allmost daily.What informations we share with you are 100% latest.As soon as, file goes to AICTE, I shell inform you immediately.
Yes, it seems that the procedure is in the last stage. Atleast AICTE should now make the notification...of course now we all know..that it is not going to give us anything extra...Hope it will not have more shocks...
Why is NCS misleading teacher community? He should tell the source of his information which is often distressing or annoying to most of the teachers. Is he representing the Pvt college management? Plz clarify NCS!
AICTE pay revision for techies leaked.suggests revision with effect from 2007 january 1.increment 3 percentage.arrears after march 31/2010 in one time settlement.scales as suggested by chaddha for ugc.pb3 to pb4 after 5 years.new scales from october month salary to be paid in november first.40 percent of arrears to be put in provident fund which will be released only after march 2013.
MR. SK whatever you are saying all are nonsense. Please donot misguide the friends by these informations. We know what is inside.
Hi
Today, evening all of you is going to get Sixth Pay.
Proposed national education body gets PM's support on
6 Sep, 2009
NEW DELHI: The HRD Ministry's plan for setting up a commission that will replace existing regulatory bodies like UGC and AICTE is understood to have got support from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
The Ministry made a presentation before the Prime Minister on August 28 with regard to the proposal for starting National Commission for Higher Education and Research (NCHER).
The presentation was made by Higher Education Secretary R P Agrawal in the presence of HRD Minister Kapil Sibal.
Officials said the Prime Minister was inclined to the proposal and even suggested setting up of a task force to see how to go about it. The task force will also coordinate between states and other wings of the government on the issue.
As per the proposal, the NCHER will subsume the existing regulatory bodies like University Grants Commission (UGC), All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE), Distance Education Council (DEC) and National Council for Teachers' Education (NCTE).
The concept of NCHER was recommended by the government-appointed committee on 'Renovation and Rejuvenation of Higher Education', headed by Prof Yashpal.
As per the proposal, the NCHER will act as the apex regulatory body in the field of higher education in India and create enabling environment for universities to become self-regulatory bodies.
It will be the premier advisory body to the Central and state governments on policy issues on higher education. The proposed body will prepare and present a report on the state of higher education in India every year to Parliament.
Yashpal committee has suggested that the proposed body will serve as a think tank on higher education policy in the country and provide a vision on higher education to be reflected in the curriculum framework, set benchmarks for universities and compare institutions globally.
The proposed commission would create norms, processes and structures for ensuring quality and accreditation of universities. It will establish transparent norms for entry and exit of of institutions.
The proposed NCHER will develop mechanism for funding for universities and other institutions. It will provide the mechanism for national database on higher education.
Besides, the commission will create an environment in academic institutions that will encourage young people to take up academia as a career.
The Central Advisory Board of Education, the apex advisory body on education in the country, has already approved the proposal for setting up of the NCHER. The HRD Ministry has prepared a draft bill on it.
So yet another long wait for all of us?
It will not be a long wait now, let us hope so. The MHRD clearance when conveyed to AICTE, they will issue the notification. Teachers have to follow up there. The NCHER bill will go to parliament in winter session. In all likleyhood, the new body will function from April 2010 as per highly places sources.
Who told you dear technic. Dont spread rumors. No one knows whether AICTE exists or not. Most useless body with full of corrupt officials.
Who told you dear technic. Dont spread rumors. No one knows whether AICTE exists or not. Most useless body with full of corrupt officials.
Who told you dear technic. Dont spread rumors. No one knows whether AICTE exists or not. Most useless body with full of corrupt officials.
Dear Technic
Are you kidding? Kindly disclose source of your information.
Dear All,
Only by these rumors, we have to enjoy the happiness of sixth pay. I am sure that we will not Sixth Pay in the near future.
Dear Technic
All of us are under immense pressure. Plz be serious while posting any informatiion. Thanks any way for clarification.
Please dont waste ur time,all will happen at that time,the end of the world
SACHDEV MALKHANI's FINAL ROUND OF TALKS WITH PHARMACY AND DENTAL ORGANISATIONS TO BE HELD ON 16TH SEPTEMBER.
Dear Prof.JP,
Who is Sachdev Malkani? What is his role in 6th Pay implementation to technical teachers?
I will not suggest this worst technical teaching career even to my enemy. I will let my son to rear pigs rather than do this technical teaching in INDIA. Had I been young, I would have switched over to some other career.
Dear RRK,
You have very correctly said, Sir. It is in fact true. Can any one else tell me whether any other category of Government Employees has not been given Sixth Pay still today?
dear j.p sir ,will you please inform us whether Malkhani has completed talks with engineering wing
dear j.p sir ,will you please inform us whether Malkhani has completed talks with engineering wing
Today at 3.30 pm i called mr.paliwal,the new member secratary regarding the aicte pay revision.He told me that prof.mehta's report has been given to a four member committee headed by prof S.Malkhani retd u.p.s.c chairman and former planning commission member.They have been holding talks with various organistions since april and they are now in the winding stage.with in two weeks they are going to submit the final report after processing to hrd minister.
Dear Mr. aaa
Pls clarify if you have the information as to what is the exact role of Malakhani committe in pay revision of technical degree colleges / engineering colleges and Management institutes regulated by AICTE. Mrs Pratrima Dixit had been denying too about any such committee.
TODAY WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TECH TEACHING COMMUNITY.THE LAST AICTE NOTIFICATION ON TECH PAY REVISION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AFTERNOON.
There is no Malakhani committe. Do not believe such things.
I very firmly believe in the law of KARMA as applied to humans.I have experienced certain happenings and incidents in life which proove beyond any doubt the veracity of the law. I can only request my fellow colleagues to kindly understand that your KARMAS of this instant shall decide/affect your next or subsequent instants.
I humbly request all the visitors of this hub to kindly post only authentic or genuine comments. It would be good if the source of any info is mentioned so that a reader can judge for him/herself as to how much he /she could rely on the info.
Excuse me for projecting a saintly image about myself but I have merely reproduced my experiences with the law of KARMA.
Regards to all.
GET LOST DR ALLAH
I fully support Dr. Allah.Please try to realise and understand the advise given by Dr. Allah.Lets all heed his advise.
Dear All,
I don't think there is any other Government Employee has not got the Sixth Pay other than the technical teachers. It is a shame.
I request any bold technical teacher to file the application under RTI to know the status of the sixth pay to the technical teachers
Dear Dr.Asutosh,
"TODAY WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TECH TEACHING COMMUNITY.THE LAST AICTE NOTIFICATION ON TECH PAY REVISION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AFTERNOON". What is the source of this information?
It is a great idea to file RTI application and to know the status of the pay revision. This will answer whether the Malkani committe is there or not
Dear Dr Ashutosh,
Please indicate the source of your statement"TODAY WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TECH TEACHING COMMUNITY.THE LAST AICTE NOTIFICATION ON TECH PAY REVISION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AFTERNOON."
The people on this hubpage are requesting everyone to write sensibly and responsibly. Please do not make fun of the worries and concern of your fellow colleagues. So if your information is correct, please give the source.
Very true, Sanket
MANTHA AND PALIWAL ON FORIEGN TOUR.WILL RETURN ONLY AFTER SEPTEMBER TWENTY SECOND.POSSIBLE DELAY OCCUR BY 3 WEEKS.
AICTE NOTIFICATION OUT.
AICTE NOTIFICATION OUT.
AICTE NOTIFICATION OUT.
who read it?
Mr. Balbeer, is your msg authenticated? If so, please reveal the source.
aicte notification out.the news is true.it will be published soon in aicte web site.
Mr. JP, What is the content? Can you post excerpts of the notification here?
The file is still in the MHRD. It ,to the best of my knowledge not reached the AICTE. Please do not try to spead rumours and create further confusion.
Thaks
The file is still in the MHRD. It ,to the best of my knowledge not reached the AICTE. Please do not try to spead rumours and create further confusion.
Thaks
what to belive is it true or flase
Dear Colleagues, the information provided by Mr. James is absolutely correct. The file is still with the MHRD. And yes there is rumour in the Ministry corridors that there is no PBIV for Lect SG with 3 years experience (this is contrary to waht the UGC faculty has been given).So I request all to immediately do whatever one can to verify this report/rumour.
Thanks
if it is really true, then we r all lucky enough that we got atleast now.
still we cannot believe the words of Mr Balbeer & Jp. because there are no information related to this news.
so please i request you to provide the authenticated source so that we can really relay upon.
Dear Prof Balbeer,
The situation today, is such that I would certainly like to trust you. I hope you are telling the truth. And if it is true, please bring some more details of the report.
PRATIMA DIXIT OFF PHONE-011 23386561/011 23382698.Friends Smt Pratima Dikshit should know the exact status.Do try to call her and see if anyone of us could extract some information which could then be posted on this hub.
Thanks
PRATIMA DIXIT OFF PHONE-011 23386561/011 23382698.Friends Smt Pratima Dikshit should know the exact status.Do try to call her and see if anyone of us could extract some information which could then be posted on this hub.
Thanks
what mrs pratima is saying is that mhrd had sent the file last wednesday and probably aicte might have notified it.
WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!! PBIV being denied to Diploma level even after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade.Engg Degree gets UGC scales with minor changes.WAKE UP WAKe UP!!! This is an authentic news.File still not signed and discussion on this issue (ie PBIV to Diploma after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade) is still being discussed.Please pull all your strength and act fast.WAKE UP WAKE UP FAST.Act fast.
May GOD help us all in getting our due .
Regards to ALL
Comment by 'aaa' that he spoke to Smt Pratima Dickshit and the file has been sent to AICTE is ABSOLUTELY BASELESS.PLEASE DO NOT RELY ON ANY OTHER NEWS THAN WHAT I HAVE STATED ABOVE.Act fast lest we all our gouing to repent later.Please act fast
WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!! PBIV being denied to Diploma level even after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade.Engg Degree gets UGC scales with minor changes.WAKE UP WAKe UP!!! This is an authentic news.File still not signed and discussion on this issue (ie PBIV to Diploma after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade) is still being discussed.Please pull all your strength and act fast.WAKE UP WAKE UP FAST.Act fast.
May GOD help us all in getting our due .
Regards to ALL
Comment by 'aaa' that he spoke to Smt Pratima Dickshit and the file has been sent to AICTE is ABSOLUTELY BASELESS.PLEASE DO NOT RELY ON ANY OTHER NEWS THAN WHAT I HAVE STATED ABOVE.Act fast lest we all our gouing to repent later.Please act fast
THE INFORMATION ON AICTE PAY NOTIFICATION IS TRUE.JUST NOW I CALLED MR R.K KUNDI,ASST DIRECTOR AT THE INFORMATION CENTRE AND HE TOLD ME THAT AICTE PAY REVISION FILE FROM HRD MINISTRY HAS BEEN SIGNED BY THE CHAIRMAN FOR NOTIFICATION BEFORE HE LEAVES FOR OSLO.WITH EFFECT FROM 7-9-2009
MOST URGENT AND IMPORTANT
TO NCS,PALA,AIFPTO:
WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!! PBIV being denied to Diploma level even after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade.Engg Degree gets UGC scales with minor changes.WAKE UP WAKe UP!!! This is an authentic news.File still not signed and discussion on this issue (ie PBIV to Diploma after 3 years as Lect Sel Grade) is still being discussed.Please pull all your strength and act fast.Time is running out.WAKE UP WAKE UP FAST.Act fast.
May GOD help us all in getting our due .
Regards to ALL
I SUSPECT DR ALLAH IS SIBALS REPRESENTATIVE OR SIBAL HIMSELF .ALLAH IS MISLEADING ALL OF US.HE IS TRYING TO DIVIDE US AND REQUIRES THE POLY TEACHERS WHO ARE IN LARGE NUMBERS TO MAKE PROTESTS SO THAT A NEW COMMITTEE CAN BE FORMED AND THE PAY REVISION REPORT TO GET FREEZED INDEFINITELY DONT SUPPORT OR ENCOURAGE HIM
remarkable comment from mr kundi.he is saying that the website operator of aicte is on maternity leave and the notification could be put on the website only after her return on oct 7.
Dear 'aaa':
Please let me know the source of info.Please come out in the open if u r sure of yr info.Do not mislead .
Dear 'aaa':
Please let me know the source of info.Please come out in the open if u r sure of yr info.Do not mislead .
PBIV denied to Diploma Teachers.Confirmed news.Please ACt FAST.
PBIV denied to Diploma Teachers.Confirmed news.Please ACt FAST.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.WHY SHOULD WE WAIT FOR THE PUMP OPERATOR OR TELEPHONE OPERATORS DELIVARY TO GET A COPY OF RELEASED NOTIFICATION.LET THEM RELEASE IN THE PRESS
I too have some info that PBIV is being denied to Diploma teachers even after 3 years as Lect (sel gr).Please I request all in Delhi to look into this issue.If this is true the polytechnic teachers are doomed.
I too have some info that PBIV is being denied to Diploma teachers even after 3 years as Lect (sel gr).Please I request all in Delhi to look into this issue.If this is true the polytechnic teachers are doomed.
MR Allah,you and NCS are the only diploma teachers using this hub.if you have something to do with your payband of sg lecturers please call NCS directly to his cell and inform the matter.he is very close to minister purendeswari and could do something
hi aaa
This hub does not belong to your father or wife. why do worry about it?. Let Allah post his views. What is wrong with it.
Comments should not become personal. Pls post only useful and valid info
get lost sandeep,santhosh.and allah
POLY IDIOTS
Hi aaa
oh! it seems it aaa is unhappy. why?
By the way 'aaa' is seemds to be happy if polytechnic teaches do not get PB-4. But, I feel polytechnic teachers need not to be unhappy. When IIT guys have been treated as UGC (or less than), it is not surprising to see deniel of PB-4 for Polytechnic teachers. In this country, only voice fetches, not the merit. It seems Govt. wants to promote social sciences and, on the other hand, cries for shortage of technical teachers. It is hightime that technical teachers, irrespective of IIT/Engg?Dip should get united.
Dear all,
Hub is like a public place. Express anything but within limits of decency. All should refrain from unbecoming language as many studnets, teahcers and parents all are visiting this hub page, to my knowledge.
Dear fellow teachers, The idea behind denying PB4 for poly teachers is just make them aggressive so that they can form another committee and delay it for few more months. Whatever it comes they can not satisfy all of us. It is better to get now or we may have to face serious problems.
what about AICTE pay scale of polytechnic teachers?. should be same as Degree college teaches or not?.
request to all to post true facts in this regard maintaining dignity.
many people in this hub had gone mad.many became philosophers or saints.we cant blame anyone for writing one hundred percent ridiculous and false statements deliberately burrying truth.for them such illusions are the end results of chronic waiting,grief,vexation and mortification and are really satisfied from such fantasies.THE TRUTH IS THAT,SO FAR THERE IS NO SUCH NOTIFICATION FROM THE PART OF MHRD OR AICTE.FROM AUTHENTICATED SOURCES I CAME TO KNOW THAT MHRD IS STILL WORKING ON THE REPORT.AFTER THE WORK IS OVER THEY HAVE TO GET CLEARANCE FROM THE FINANCE DEPT.IF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT CLEARS WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION,THE MHRD ITSELF CAN NOTIFY.BUT HERE WHAT THE MHRD IS GOING TO DO IS SENDING THE FILE TO THE MOST CORRUPTED BODY OF THE UNIVERSE FOR NOTIFICATION,WHICH IS ONLY FOR WASHING THEIR HANDS AND DELAYING THINGS FOR ANOTHER 4 TO 6 MONTHS AS U.G.C HAD DONE EARLIER,WASTING SIX MONTHS IN THE NAME OF PREPARING FITMENT TABLES.THIS INTENTION OF MHRD IS CLEAR WHILE UNDERSTANDING THE FACT THAT IIT/IIM/IISC REQUIRED NO AICTE NOTIFICATION.IN 5TH PAY REVISION AICTE NOTIFIED FOR ALL SECTIONS AND IT TOOK 2 YEARS AND FOUR MONTHS AFTER UGC PEOPLE GOT THEIR PAY AND ARREARS.
S.M KRISHNA'S SUIT RENT PER DAY IS ONE LAKH.SASI THARUR'S IS FORTY THOUSAND PER DAY.FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS THEY ARE STAYING IN FIVE STAR HOTELS.30*140000=4200000 i.e,forty two lakhs only for 2 persons room rent.BUT FOR TEACHING COMMUNITY BROODING OVER SOLITUDE AND HYPOCHONDRIACAL MOROSENESS
DEAR DR.FUCKRER,I MAY CORRECT YOU.140000*30*3=12600000=ONE CRORE AND TWENTY SIX LAKHS
DEAR PK I MEANT 42 LAKHS PER MONTH OR 1.25 CRORES FOR THREE MONTHS
its shame on u pranab.first u curtail such expenses before denying vehicles to departments and asking officials to travel in low classes
Dear All,
Our honorable Prime Minister has praised his team of HRD Ministers for their work. (Source : Deccan Chronicle)
Is there any update available on the File with MHRD ? or the possible notification ? or the likely corridor rumours ?
Still no confirmation.
wait my dear friends
Last time the pay revision took place, AICTE isuued notification for pay revision on 10th March, 2000. AICTE may repeat the same in March 2010. A snail has 5 hearts and a leach has 32 brains. AICTE/MHRD wants that technical teachers should not have any heart to grieve and no brain to think and plan.
NCS Please post the latest.Where are u??? We need some information as to the status of the file????????
At least show us your presence
NCS Please post the latest.Where are u??? We need some information as to the status of the file????????
At least show us your presence
wait till the formation of NCHER.MOS FOR HRD assured me that we will get the best. for that a little bit of patience is required.already we waited up to this moment.little more please.
AICTE pay scale of polytechnic teachers should be same as that of Degree College teachers. There is no difference between the two.
sg lect.after three yrs will placed in PB4
sg lect.after three yrs will placed in PB4
Dear NCS,
You know now that NCHER will come into being only next year after the bill is passed in winter session and is notified. Means, till then, MHRD will not take decision. Atrocious really. Quite possible, no one listens to unorganised sections of society, really. Private college teachers are generally not united or organsied in form of associations.Hence this fate.
dear aaa,
some people always overreact sometimes , particularly now due to raised frustrations of teachers of aicte approved institutions due to inordinate delay.Please ignore all that and advise the latest position if at all the pay revision for enginneering and management institutes has been cleared by MHRD or sent to AICTE or not yet. What is your information, pls update as you are in Delhi and have access to information.
dear rks,
You are talking of SG lect of Engineering college or Polytechnic? and the source of information? Please come out, share.
Dear Dr. akc
The indirect cause for delay is private engg. college managements. Anyway, the things are not as hard as Mr. NCS say. I am in regular contact with Mrs.Pratima DIxit. As per her, the Engg. college notification is almost ready and waiting for Internal FD clearence for Polytechnic teachers pay scales. It seems there are some issues with polytecnic teachers pay scales (PB-4, professor etc.). FD have has asked for all the deatils of earlier pay commision reports for polytechnic teachers. As soon as those problems are resoved, the notification will be out or MHRD may direct AICTE to notify as this does not require Cabinet Approval.
Thanks Mr. Raj for sharing the info.
Dear every faculty member in technical education:
I can understand most of faculty members can not ask Principals or managements for pay revision. Neither private institutions faculty generally demonstrate or strike work like government departments whose job is secure inspite of their exercising the right to protest.
If the pace of MHRD is like this, technical teachers will not celebrate this diwali also with the kind of joy the UGC/IIt/IIMs faculty will have. Govt staff already getting another 60% arrears too.
I have a suggestion that we should draft a common petition and put on hub page. Let every one of us visiting this page and all our community fellows in colleges/polytechnics, write individual letters and flood the office of Mr. Kapil Sibal with letters requesting to intervene and consider the issue so that notification comes in a week to 10 days and deepawali / pooja festival is celeberated with joy like other teachers. Please comment on this suggestion. I dont think we cant do even this much, and shall be doing nothing illegal, unbecoming or unjustified under the circumstances. I think we must do this to highlight our plight. Can some of our btothers have some sympathisers in Press and Media? We can highlight there also. Please come on, the time has come to do something otherwise AICTE record of 2 years delay like 5th pay revision is certain to happen (pls dont mind my making this a bit negative remark dampening your spirits but this is a fact). Do you want I should draft a simple petition? Pls respond in large numbers giving your views. Only giving suggestions on hub page without doing anything will not help, sirs.
Dear Dr AKC,
Good sugession. I think all shall support it. Pls draft the petition. Atleast I will follow you. All the Best.
dear Dr akc, please go ahead with the thing you suggested, we r all with u and we have to fight for our justice. this is the right time for all the techical (aicte ) faculties to unite together and fight against the govt( devil).
Dear Dr.AKC,
Please draft the letter and post it in this hub. Also, send this drafted letter to the Editors of all Newspapers.
Dear Dr AKC,
Your suggestion indeed is very good. We all must support the same. This can really add to the pressure on government. You can also suggest the implementation of the same. How we all can get involved ?
Good Suggestion. We should support it. Also we should keep on posting letters to PMO
Good proposal We all in support Please go head and draft the letter and post it in this hub.
why teachers of technical institutes ( IIT/NIT/ENGG. COLLEGE/POLYTECHNIC)get every thing in last ,when they will get 6th pay scale
why teachers of technical institutes ( IIT/NIT/ENGG. COLLEGE/POLYTECHNIC)get every thing in last ,when they will get 6th pay scale
why teachers of technical institutes ( IIT/NIT/ENGG. COLLEGE/POLYTECHNIC)get every thing in last ,when they will get 6th pay scale
Congrates at last we got it
how and what is the source
"hh" stop bakwas. give source.
The only department not yet announced the 6 th pay commission revised pay is DOTE (Directrate of Technical Education) controlled Govt. and Aided Engineering colleges in Tamilnadu. Why they are delaying the things done?. The appropriate official should take swept action for the same.
Dear hh,
Good that you got something !!! Is it something related to 6th pay commission...?
dear hh, what is that you have got?
please dont make fun of all the technical faculties of AICTE.
i think u may be a prof under ugc?
DA up by 5% for other Govt. Staff!!!!
Delhi University Vice-Chancellor Deepak Pental has written to the Lt Governor of Delhi stating that the legislative assembly of NCT of
Delhi has no constitutional or statutory power to make a law affecting the operation of Delhi University Act and that Delhi government has violated the DU Act by not seeking the Centre's approval for converting Delhi College of Engineering into Delhi Technological University.
Pental, in his letter written on September 7 (a copy of which is with this paper) to Tejendra Khanna stated that "Delhi College of Engineering is one of the constituent colleges of the University of Delhi under statute 30 of the statutes of the University of Delhi, and the name of the college also figures under the statues of the university. The statutes of the University of Delhi have been framed under Section 28 of Delhi University Act with the previous approval of the President of India in his capacity as Visitor of the University of Delhi. Therefore, it becomes mandatory for Delhi government to seek approval of the Central Government before notifying the said Act in its official gazette.
The letter also alleges that DTU Act 2009 has violated statue 30 of the statutes of DU according to which its constituent or affiliated institution may not suspend instruction in any subject or course of study which it is authorized to teach and teaches without the permission of the executive and academic council.
The letter further says that the "teachers of Delhi College of Engineering are teachers of the university and that the legislative assembly of NCT of Delhi cannot make a law with respect to any matter mentioned in the Union List i.e. List 1 in Schedule VII to the Constitution. Entry 63 in List 1 mentions, among others, Delhi University.''
DUTA demands Govt colleges teachers be declared DU teachers
New Delhi, Sep 9 : Hailing the stand of the Delhi University against irregular change of status of the Delhi College of Engineering (DCE), the Delhi University Teachers' Association today demanded that teachers in all Government maintained colleges of the capital be declared as 'Teachers of the University'.
DUTA president Aditya Narayan Misra told mediapersons here that in the past, the University had wavered on the issue that led to discrimination against the teachers in the Government maintained colleges in terms of service conditions and retirement age.
''Even in court cases, the University had failed to take the same welcome stand which it has taken now in the case of DCE by maintaing them as 'Teachers of the University'.
''The University should write to all the Government maintained colleges that the teachers therein are 'Teachers of the University' and are governed by the University Ordinances. This would help in sorting out many issues,'' he said.
The Government colleges included A & U Tibbia College, College of Art, Delhi Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences and Research, Raj Kumar Amrit Kaur College of Nursing, Nehru Homeopathic Medical College, Ahilyabai College of Nursing, Maulana Azad Medical College and Lady Hardinge Medical College.
The Delhi Technological University Bill, 2009, passed in the Delhi Assembly recently, bestowed deemed university status on the Delhi College of Engineering (DCE) by upgrading it to a State University under the name of Delhi Technological University (DTU).
The Delhi College of Engineering Teachers’ Association and demanded that DCE be linked to Delhi University.
Dr.AKC,
Prepare the petition and display for us to add if some one wants to.
This is the only way we strangers can fight for a cause of common concern.
Best wishes.
Hi hh
What u got? is it Banana?
AICTE SCALES WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN ONE WEEK
AICTE SCALES WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN ONE WEEK
AICTE SCALES WILL BE ANNOUNCED WITHIN ONE WEEK
ALREADY AICTE SCALES ARE ANNOUNCED, CLEAR FITMENT IS TO BE DEFINED WHICH WILL BE DONE IN ONE WEEK
ALREADY AICTE SCALES ARE ANNOUNCED, CLEAR FITMENT IS TO BE DEFINED WHICH WILL BE DONE IN ONE WEEK
ALREADY AICTE SCALES ARE ANNOUNCED, CLEAR FITMENT IS TO BE DEFINED WHICH WILL BE DONE IN ONE WEEK
Where is the news of announcement???
pls inform us from where have u got that message
Even if MHRD announces today or in a week or in a month, it is AICTE that will take another 3 months. Our petition will make our minister aware of our frustrations and travails and who knows, he may act too. Do not presume nothing will happen. Otherwise also what has happened except all of us getting fooled by any one posting anything unconfirmed on the hub. It is pure Gandhigiri, my fellows.
Be prepared to spend Rs 10-20 on couriering petitions in large numbers , everyone please. Persuade others too for peaceful petitions in large numbers as a method of representing our issue to higher authorities. Because we are not able to act like UGC or IIT/IIM teachers, the way the Government understands as exhibited by their conduct.
At least there will be a feeling of doing something for ourselves ,whatever little it is. I hope you will agree. The petition will be uploaded any time soon.
Even if MHRD announces today or in a week or in a month, it is AICTE that will take another 3 months. Our petition will make our minister aware of our frustrations and travails and who knows, he may act too. Do not presume nothing will happen. Otherwise also what has happened except all of us getting fooled by any one posting anything unconfirmed on the hub. It is pure Gandhigiri, my fellows.
Be prepared to spend Rs 10-20 on couriering petitions in large numbers , everyone please. Persuade others too for peaceful petitions in large numbers as a method of representing our issue to higher authorities. Because we are not able to act like UGC or IIT/IIM teachers, the way the Government understands as exhibited by their conduct.
At least there will be a feeling of doing something for ourselves ,whatever little it is. I hope you will agree. The petition will be uploaded any time soon.
11.09.09
Mr. Kapil Sibal,
The Honorable Cabinet Minister
MHRD, Govt. of India
19, Teen Murti Marg, New Delhi-110 001
Re: Drawing your kind attention to inordinate delay in pay revision of technical teachers
of institutions under AICTE
Sir,
All pay revision issues of several lakhs of Government employees are already settled in September 2008. They got both installments of arrears too. Lakhs of University teachers under UGC got the same in June 2009.
Only a few thousand technical teachers with similar qualifications and responsibilities are denied pay revision for one reason or the other.. You will please not disagree that technical teachers too have needs, feelings, dignity and need speedy pay revision. They also feel like agitating like other sections of society but have always practised restrained and responsible behaviour.
By this petition, we request you to please intervene in the matter to speed up our pay revision. We further request you to also direct AICTE to notify the revised pay scales without any delay like they always do for reasons best known to them but always unclear to us. During 5th Pay Commission revision also , notified by the Govt. on 9th October, 1998 , technical teachers were the last to get after delay of two years by AICTE notification on May 3, 2000.
We hope that compared to Deepawali -2008, the ensuing Deepawali -2009 will bring much delayed joy to Technical Teachers also due to your intervention.
Thanking you ,
Yours truly,
(Signature)
Name____________________ Designation________________________
Residential Address ______________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________________
Dear Dr.AKC,
Please send the petition to all the news reporters and the Editors of all papers. Let us all inform them that we are sending mass representations to the honorable HRD Minister.
Hi all,
What happened. No response. Pls copy, paste , make some minimum necessary changes if at all necessary, and send a courier tomorrow at Mr. Sibal's residential address so that it reaches him direct. Act fast, at least this much we can do for ourselves.
Release of additional instalment of dearness allowance to Central Government employees and dearness relief to Pensioners, due from 1.7.2009
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14:49 IST
The Cabinet has decided to release an additional instalment of Dearness Allowance (DA) to Central government employees and Dearness Relief (DR) to pensioners w.e.f. 1.7.2009 representing an increase of 5% over the existing rate of 22% of the Basic Pay/Pension, to compensate for price rise. The increase is in accordance with the accepted formula, which is based on the recommendations of the 6th Central Pay Commission. The combined impact on the exchequer on account of both dearness allowance and dearness relief would be of the order of Rs.4355.35 crore in a full year and Rs.2903.55 crore in the financial year 2009-2010 (for a period of 8 months from July, 2009 to February, 2010).
Good work dear AKC,
I would suggest it be more aggressive. I have made few changes, please see them if they fit.
Sir,
All pay revision issues of several lakhs of Government employees are already settled in September 2008. They got both installments of arrears too. Lakhs of University teachers under UGC got the same in June 2009.
Only a few thousand technical teachers with similar qualifications and responsibilities are denied (as delay in notification will deprive the arrears of majority of the teachers, especially working in private colleges and polytechnics) pay revision for one reason or the other.. You will (please) not disagree that technical teachers too have needs, feelings, dignity and need speedy pay revision. They also feel like agitating like other sections of society but have always practised restrained and responsible behaviour AND DIGNITY.
By this petition, we request you to please intervene in the matter to speed up our pay revision. We further request you to also direct AICTE (HITHER TO VILLIAN TO TECHNICAL EDUCATION)to notify the revised pay scales without any delay like they always do for reasons best known to them but always unclear to us. During 5th Pay Commission revision also , notified by the Govt. on 9th October, 1998 , technical teachers were the last to get after delay of two years by AICTE notification on May 3, 2000.
We hope that compared to Deepawali -2008, the ensuing Deepawali -2009 will bring much delayed joy to Technical Teachers also due to your intervention.
Dear Mr. Babu and all others,
Pls see if you can take help of some friend or relative to publish in media about petitions being sent to the honorable HRD Minister by technical teachers under AICTE regulation.
today itself am going to send the petition framed by akc to both ministers of mhrd at their residential address.the residential address of d.purendeswari at delhi**B-201,MS FLATS,BKS MARG,NEW DELHI,110 OO1.I ALSO REQUEST ALL OF YOU TO DO THE SAME AS SUGESTED BY AKC
Dear Dr AKC,
Thanks for doing a good work... I have also taken a copy and am sending it to various ministers and copies to regional news papers.
Dear all,
Please mark the envelope as " Personal and confidential" so tht it goes to the Minister.
very good.. go ahead
Kudungappa,, mudiyalappa.,
Dear Mr. LEEE,
What should we understand from your comments in your dialect? Good, bad or else? Pls translate.
Mr. R_rajanprakash
What should we understand from your comments in your dialect? Good, bad or else? Pls translate.
I hope, Mr LEEE is expressing his happiness that we have atleast started a new effort. Of course, I do not understand his language.
Dear NCS:
Somehow , I have developed faith in your disclosures and information. Kindly post the latest information.
All the best .
Kudungappa,, mudiyalappa., means struggled and saturation point reached. only with earliest announcement can tackle further. this is the condition of techies.
Kudungappa,, mudiyalappa., means
please try to give.., i can't tolerate
Please do as suggested by Dr. AKC. Flood the MHRD Ministers with couriers at their residences.
very good idea
article 14 means right to equality.that is equality before law.THE STATE SHALL NOT DENY TO ANY PERSON EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW OR THE EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS WITH IN THE TERRITORY OF INDIA.what iam coming to say is we should now think of filing a suit on the state's violation of article 14.article 14 guarentees equal oppurtunity to all.denying benifits to a particular class or group clearly indicates state's violation of the law
Dear all,
I hope many of us must have couriered petitions to Hon. HRD minsiter today. Dont blame AICTE for delay in pay revision if you yourself delay this simple gandhigiri that too not for others but for yourselves.
I request all to do as suggested by Dr AKC. Letters as per the format given above in this hub should be couriered to the residences of both the ministers of HRD.
This would really work, I am pretty sure about it.
Thanks to all who have already done this exercise.
This delay in announcement of notification is rediculous. MHRD/AICTE should have atleast conveyed or notified to grant the pay, equivalent to UGC pay scales. Differences can be paid later on. It is difficult to believe and accept that such a simple and easy step is not taken by government. And we are denied the 6th pay since almost a year. A bunch of people are simply playing with our lives. Such injustice is again promoted by the ministers. The pay scales of the officers of AICTE and UGC should be raised at the last, after they have cleared notifications of all concerned. Its shameful !!!!
Dear all,
Shall we suggest to the Honourable Minsiter to clear the pay as per UGC fitment table tentatively (subject to adjustments as per final payment on notification) to be disbursed before Diwali pending finalisation of scales. I think this is quite justified step to set right the insjustice partly, seeing inordinate delay already made. For that we can send another follow-up petition next Monday suggesting this.Matter of another Rs.10 to 20 and anothter step in Gandhigiri. Pls apprise each other of your views on this hub page.
It is advisable, at this stage,not to do anything else but to insist only on aicte revised scales. Otherwise, matter will get complicated.
Where r u, Mr. R Jain? Why have u stopped visiting ur blog since Aug 19th? U were contributing valuable information of interest to engg college/poly teachers.Pl come & share information with us.Hope u will not disappoint us.Thanks.
SSV/RSV Pl share with us the sources of ur information.
FROM RELIABLE SOURCES IT IS HEARD THAT MHRD IS NOW WORKING ON RECTIFYING ANOMALIES OF IIT PAY REVISION DEFERING AICTE FILE.OUR FILE WILL BE FORWARDED ONLY AFTER IIT FILE REPAIR.
It is heard that all the state governments should implement, if not already done, the MHRD announced UGC Pay Scales for the college and University Teachers to avail the central grant. If this is correct, we also can expect quick decisions from the concerned.
The Kerala Government Medical College Teachers’ Association (KGMCTA) withdrew its strike, which has been continuing despite the Government approving revised pay scales, on Friday following discussions with the Health Secretary and the Health Minister who promised to look into the anomalies in the current pay revision.
The president of KGMCTA A. Sarathkumar told the media here that while KGMCTA had serious objections about the Government diluting the promises of a UGC-level pay scale to Medical College teachers, it was withdrawing the strike as the Government had said that it was willing to discuss all unresolved issues. The issues included the extended working hours, reduced patient care allowance and the lack of facilities for research activities.
The Government has also agreed to constitute a committee to look into the anomalies in the newly revised pay structure and service conditions, he added.
All duties that were being boycotted by KGMCTA for the past three months as part of its strike demanding revised pay scales, including pay ward admissions, VIP and examination duties, will resume with immediate effect, Dr. Sarath said.
The Government had announced the newly revised pay structure for Medical College teachers on Wednesday. Though the package offered substantial hike in pay, the Government also linked it to service conditions like extended duty hours and a ban on private practice by doctors.
However, KGMCTA rejected the package as the Government had unilaterally fixed Patient Care Allowance at 15 per cent of the basic pay, which was not sufficient, according to doctors. The Health Minister had on Thursday asked KGMCTA to withdraw the strike and resume pay ward duties immediately. But till late night on Thursday, even as discussions were on with the Government, KGMCTA had been holding on to its stand.
He clarified that the issue of private practice ban had never been a contentious issue to the present KGMCTA leadership because during initial discussions itself, KGMCTA had said that given a respectable salary, doctors were willing to give up private practice.
“Our stand is that whether or not to impose a ban on private practice is a Government’s policy decision and we will not interfere in it,” Dr. Sarath said.
Meanwhile, the newly elected KGMCTA leadership has been vehemently opposing the ban on private practice . But Dr. Sarath, the out-going president who had been defeated by a slender margin by the lobby opposing private practice ban, said that the KGMCTA’s election results were not official yet. The central executive committee of KGMCTA was meeting on Sunday to hold re-counting of votes.
Even if the newly elected group managed to stay on, according to KGMCTA’s constitution, they can officially take over only after the annual general body meeting when the charge would be handed over by the out-going leadership.
“Till that time, all official decisions taken by the current leadership will stand. As the present president of KGMCTA, I am announcing the withdrawal of the strike,” Dr. Sarath said.
NCS where are you. Please post the latest.
Thanks and regards
Hope all of us are taking the suggestion of Dr AKc seriously
Hope all of us are taking the suggestion of Dr AKc seriously
HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS****************************POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PAY REVISION WORK OVER.THE SECOND PART OF MEHTA COMMISSION FOR ALL REMAINING INSTITUTIONS IS GOING TO BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.
HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS****************************POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PAY REVISION WORK OVER.THE SECOND PART OF MEHTA COMMISSION FOR ALL REMAINING INSTITUTIONS IS GOING TO BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.
HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS*HOT NEWS****************************POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PAY REVISION WORK OVER.THE SECOND PART OF MEHTA COMMISSION FOR ALL REMAINING INSTITUTIONS IS GOING TO BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.
Dear NCS:
Thanks for the information. Can you please confirm if the recommendation for polytechnic teachers would not be in any case inferior or lower than the University teachers under UGC ? More specifically, whether upward movement from PB3 to PB4, as in case of UGC, is there or not?
Thanks a lot anyway for the info already provided.
Dear NCS:
Thanks for the information. Can you please confirm if the recommendation for polytechnic teachers would not be in any case inferior or lower than the University teachers under UGC ? More specifically, whether upward movement from PB3 to PB4, as in case of UGC, is there or not?
Thanks a lot anyway for the info already provided.
Dear NCS:
Thanks for the information. Can you please confirm if the recommendation for polytechnic teachers would not be in any case inferior or lower than the University teachers under UGC ? More specifically, whether upward movement from PB3 to PB4, as in case of UGC, is there or not?
Thanks a lot anyway for the info already provided.
NCS ji, How can the scales be notified when the file has still not reached AICTE? I understand that final notification can only be issued by AICTE after the file reaches AICTE from MHRD.Has the file already reached AICTE?.
Please clarify.
Regards and thanks
NCS ji, How can the scales be notified when the file has still not reached AICTE? I understand that final notification can only be issued by AICTE after the file reaches AICTE from MHRD.Has the file already reached AICTE?.
Please clarify.
Regards and thanks
NCS please please reveal the truth.Pl do not play pranks with people who are already pranked.
NCS please please reveal the truth.Pl do not play pranks with people who are already pranked.
THE MHRD HAS FINALLY DECIDED TO NOTIFY THE REVISED AICTE PAY SCALES WITH THE ENTIRE REPORT REALISING THE FACT THAT SENDING THE REPORT TO AICTE CAUSES FURTHER DELAY.
THE MOS FOR HRD ASSURED TO LOOK IN TO THE ISSUE OF DEGRADATION OF PAY SCALES FOR POLY TECHNIC TEACHERS PARTICULARLY IN THE ENTRY CADRE AND THE TIME SPAN FOR PROMOTION FROM Pb3 TO Pb4
EXCEPT THAT FOR NITS,ALL THE CATOGORIES' WILL BE NOTIFIED ON MONDAY.THE PAY SCALES FOR NITS WILL BE NOTIFIED ALONG WITH THE REVISED CFTI's SCALES BY OCTOBER END
Dear all,
We must appreciate his efforts to liaise with MHRD. Mr. NCS has given so many informations from MHRD in past one year also but nothing actually materialised as per informations. Always there were gitches.
I suggest if the notification by MHRD does not happen on Monday, then do not wait to shoot petitions if you want sometning should be done about revision of pay scales by ourselves.
What about unaided Engineeing Colleges? They will be covered?
never direct your children to teaching proffession rather rearing pigs
Dear NCS:
Was there ever such a move of denmying PB4 to us? If yes has it been thrashed out or not?
I would like to believe whatever you have posted.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dear NCS:
Was there ever such a move of denmying PB4 to us? If yes has it been thrashed out or not?
I would like to believe whatever you have posted.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dear NCS:
Was there ever such a move of denmying PB4 to us? If yes has it been thrashed out or not?
I would like to believe whatever you have posted.
Thanks in anticipation.
Dear Mr. NCS,
Dear Mr. NCS,
Thanks for sharing such a hot piece of hot information. However, pl give the source of this vital information.That will please us all.Hope to hear from u soon.
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Dear all
Just look at the previou posting of NCS
NCS says:
9 days ago
Dear teachers,yesterday evening i met one seniormost official of aicte.He told me that national council for higher education and research is going to be constituted on oct 2,birthday of mahatmaji.All the bodies of higher education including ugc.aicte,ncert,dec etc are going to be dissolved at the earliest.There is strict order from the ministry to complete ALL the pending works in a speedy manner so that NCHER can have smooth initial functioning.Except iit/iim/iisc pay revision,everything regarding remaining technical teachers will be considered by NCHER after its formation in a warline manner.so i request everyone be calm and patient till the end of october
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Now, the NCS is contrdicting his earlier posting?
Can we still hope on NCS's latest posting?
I am sure NCS would have a good reason for posting his earlier comment about formation of NCHER. May be something has happened in these nine days like 'rejection' of Sh Kapil Sibal's proposal to bring about a chnage by an act of parliament.
Howver, NCS may please reply.
Thanks
I am sure NCS would have a good reason for posting his earlier comment about formation of NCHER. May be something has happened in these nine days like 'rejection' of Sh Kapil Sibal's proposal to bring about a chnage by an act of parliament.
Howver, NCS may please reply.
Thanks
Dear friends,
The AIFPTO office bearers led by Sri N. Chandra Shekhar, General Secretary; Sri Y. Narsaiah Goud, Treasurer and Sri K.S. Shiva Ramu, President, AGOTE have met Smt. D. Purandeswari, Hon'ble MOS for HRD on 10th at New Delhi and apprised her on the status of Pay Revision for Polytechnic teachers. They have also represented on the grave apprehensions of the teachers about the denial of PB4 for the Polytechnic teachers. The Minister immediately talked to Sri Ashok Thakur, Addl. Secretary and Ms. Pratima Dixit of the matter. Later she directed the AIFPTO office bearers to meet the Addl. Secretary. During the discussions with the Addl. Secretary, the Federation was informed that since the Central Govt. is not giving any financial assistance to the States, whatever Prof.Goverdhan Mehta has recommended for Poly. Teachers is being sent in toto by the HRD to AICTE for Notification in the coming week. Let's all wait for a few more days.
Commendable effort by AIFPTO. Keep it up.
The denial of pb4 for polytechnic teachers will bring the plot for polytechnic teachers for strong protest or file the writ petition.Since the last many years the polytechnic teachers were getting pay scales at par engineering college teachers.A working committee during 1986 decided that the lecturers with three tire scales will get equivalent to the engg. college lecturers,HODs were equivalent to assistant professors/readers of engg. college and principal polytechnic were equivalent to professors engg.college with a slight curtail in upper limit of professor engg.college scales.Hence the same pattern should never be changed in any case.
Thanks Mr. NCS,
If the news comes out to be true on revision notification next week, it will be end of the long ordeal for technical teachers.
Dear Polytechnic Teachers,
Awake! Arise, or be fallen foe ever. If the notification puts you degraded as compared to the UGC scales, be prepared for a nationwide unprecedented strike. For years, entry level qualification and selection procedure for engineering colleges and polytechnics have been the same. There are many persons working in polytechnics as per their own choice inspite of being on higher positions in the common selection list of the PSC, so that sort of discrimination cannot be tolerated any more.We will have to ensure complete closure of work as now-a-days there are only 10% regular teachers and govt. can run the institutions with contract and part-time staff.Think over it till the notification is issed and let us hope for the best!
Notification is just a dream
Go to bed and slip for dream
OK man
Dear Respected Technical teachers,
Whether we are to expect the notification for pay revision today?
Dear Respected Technical teachers,
Whether we are to expect the notification for pay revision today?
Dear Respected Technical teachers,
Whether we are to expect the notification for pay revision today?
notification is out? matter is over
dont try to search these all websites for u r pay scales defntly u never get that new scale forget everything live happily with u r present salary best sugestn of the year 2009 ,2010,2011& 2012
Dear skg,
Pls advise source of your info. When and where can we see the notification on AICTE technical teachers pay revision as informed by you.
dear skg
pl reveal the source of ur information as we all r anxiously waiting for the notification
Notification LBW
Hi kk
Is it leg before wicket? Funny fellow!. Do not post such mysterious postings.
Notification is out,available on MHRD website
Degree level technical teachers pay scales are better than IIT/Niit
Dear Dingdong
There is no such notification on MHRD site. Do not make fool of others.
Dear Dingdong
There is no such notification on MHRD site. Do not make fool of others.
Dear Dingdong
There is no such notification on MHRD site. Do not make fool of others.
Mr. Dingdong can u please provide the link. I find no link in the MHRD website.
'Dingdong" tera ghanti bajgaya kya? Every body, keep no "Varosa" without any Link provided.
common dingdong... give information
common dingdong... give information
Hi IDIOT dingdong,
Do not dingdong with the frustrated teachers. It is not fair.
Hi dingdong,
you r expected to give correct information.
Do not play at this hub
Dear NCS:
What's the latest?
Thanks
TOTAL VACUUM
hi ...can anybody provide the correct status of the pay report for polytechnic teachers
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Mr.Raj,tera bhi ghanti baj gya.ha----haaaaaaaa
Hi friends
Black list
dingdong, kk, skg
These idiots donot have guts to identify themselves. How can we expect genuine information from such useless fellows. Ignore their postings.
here is a good news for polytechnic teachers that their recommended pay scales are at par with degree level teachers
Mr Dingdong,
What sort of a man you are! Perhaps you are not a teacher at all as you dare to play with the sentiments of teachers at these troubled times. Stop playing pranks and get out of this hub if you have nothing authentic to share
dingdong bastard
poly technic teachers will get pay as par with IIT professors,every ambition has little limit.
Mr mm
Why r u measuring the quality of polytechnic teachers with the job profile of their passouts. My dear friends. polytechnic teachers are equally qualified as compared to engineering teachers. In Madhya Pradesh all polytechnic teachers are MTech/ME. Now lot of them are persuing PhD. Why a lower scale for them????
Dear mm and other friends
I donot think polytechnic teachers aspire for IIT professor scales. However, there is nothing wrong to expect professors post for qualified people , as is being done for UG colleges in UGC scales. Also,any degration, as is being done to IIITs, from earlier status can not be justified and tolerated. Today, polytechnics(especially, Govt.polytechnics) have facuty with good qualification ( better than thousands of Engg. colleges). AICTE sclae have attracted good and qualified faculty for polytechnics fold. Degradtion is like cheating the existing qualified polytechnic teachers.
Moreover, most of the polytechnics are in rural fold and good AICTE scales are one of the right measures to strengthen the technical education in rural India.
Look at UGC pay scales for undergradute college teachers. Earlier, there was no professor post in UG colleges. In the revised sclaes it has been introduced. What is wrong in introducing professor post in polytechnics too for qualified people? (Let us not talk about reseach, even in UG colleges no reseach is being done).
Compared to ug colleges,our poly people are 100 times better,Any lower scales compared to ugc scales will not be tolerated
Dear Honorable Technical Teachers,
There is no use of posting irrelevant messages. I request you to go through all the messages posted here before you post a new one. There is no use of posting messages. STOP
Mr.jp, are U a peon ,U can not be a teacher.U have such a cheap mentality.
ok.ok... cool down dingdong
Dear Friends,
Govt. Engineering college staff will never worry about 6th pay now. Whenever 6th pay is going to impelment, they will get arrears from 1/1/2006. They will get better lumpsum amoutnt as arrears. But the problem for only Self finance engg.college staff. They never get arrers for pay revision. They will not claim anything and also they will not agitate againt government for 6th pay, because they are not under government. Only government teaching staff alone agitate aginst government for 6th pay. Because only crying babies alone get milk. Please government teaching staff can agitate againt government for 6th pay
Dear Friends,
Govt. Engineering college staff will never worry about 6th pay now. Whenever 6th pay is going to impelment, they will get arrears from 1/1/2006. They will get better lumpsum amoutnt as arrears. But the problem for only Self finance engg.college staff. They never get arrers for pay revision. They will not claim anything and also they will not agitate againt government for 6th pay, because they are not under government. Only government teaching staff alone agitate aginst government for 6th pay. Because only crying babies alone get milk. Please government teaching staff can agitate againt government for 6th pay
Dear Self finance engg. college teachers.
It is true that you are very unlikely get the arrears. Perhaps, you have to have one more long wait for AICTE pay scale implementations by private engg. colleges (as they ask for fee hike before implementation which might take long time). Of course,private polytechnic teachers never aspire for AICTE scales as they feel it to be a day dream (mentally prepared for not to demand).
It is astonishing to see that inspite of such injustice happening to these section of teachers for years, there is no movement to unite and fight these injustices yet.
As far as Govt. polytecnic teachers are concerned, same is the situation with little difference that they get their revised pay without arrears after one more wait.
Dear Ding Dong:
It is an irony that we tend to believe whoever posts a positive post. Ding Dong you are requested to post only authentic news and reports.Please understand that 'mare huae ko aur kyon marna'. I earnestly request all hub visitors 'never' to make a fool of the aggrieved or pained.
Thanks and regards
got it atlast
got it atlast
What did u get n from where? if its for all, share the source/link.
banana?
Dear NCS,
Where are you? When r u bringing new information, we expect something new and authentic from you.
Plan for a nation wide strike.
This is the only one solution
Plan for a nation wide strike.
This is the only one solution
Plan for a nation wide strike.
This is the only one solution
IT is true that only crying babies can get milk. Or else, things will go on with waiting alone.
Please plan for a strike
IT is true that only crying babies can get milk. Or else, things will go on with waiting alone.
Please plan for a strike
We have to show our hatred to the Government. Fast. Again, Assemble elections are approaching. Then, Election code of conduct will come into force.
Please plan for a strike
Polytechnic Instituites are seem to be upperhand institute than ug colleges.Polytechnics in M P and CG are affiliated to technical universities.In M P "polytechnics" are declared "polytechnic colleges" with the reference of a letter issued by AICTE in 2002-03.Since very long period polytechnic faculties are getting pay equivalent to respective posts in Engg.college from lecturer to professor
Dr.Alla,thats like a good person,please dont get so impatient.U will get good news very shortly
Plan for a strike.
We have waited for too long.
Strike is the only solution.
Dear NCS
You have done so much up untill now . Do little more for PB4
All eyes on you . eagarly awaiting your post.
Thanks
Dear NCS
Let us know about latest information on pay revision
16th Sept'2009
Dear All:
I am a first time visitor to this hub.I am providing some very authentic news. The fact of the matter is that I very reluctantly, entered this hub,because the earlier posts, at many accasions add more confusion than doing any good. However, since the time is running out , I thought my duty to present the facts which are as follows:
1) Polytechnic teachers are being denied PB4 as of now.
2) Sh Ashok Thakur, Addl Secretary is a senior IAS officer, who is known for his negative approach. As of now the file for Polytechnic faculty is hopelessly biased against us because of the following reasons:
(i) PB4 is not recommended for polytechnic teachers
(ii) Sh AShok Thakur was also a member of the Goverdhan Mehta committee and he had then also(being a member of Goverdhan Committee) vehemently and vocally advocated the denial of PB4 to polytechnic teachers. He is also known not to retract from a stand he has already taken
(iii) The entire decision regarding polytechnic teachers rest on 2 people Smt Pratima Dikshit Director TC and Sh Ashok Thakur.
(iv) They have now,internally decided to handle even the secretarial work themselves and not to employ the services of their secretarial staff to enable them to maintain total secrecy (Sh Thakur feels that his secretarial staff is responsible for the leak of report for polytechnic teachers).
(iv) Smt Purandeswari Devi relies heavily on Ashok Thakur.
Suggested plan of action:
Try to meet Sh Thakur immedaitely
Tell him that a UGC Hindi lecturer(sel grade) shall draw approx 20% to 30% salary more than us.
In the next pay commission this pay disparity would increase to 50%.
Meet Smt Purandeswari Devi immediately and REGULARLY.
We all shud clearly understand that if this (denial of PB4) happens then this job would not even keep your kitchen fire burning after a few years.
The next pay commission shall further isolate the polytechnic teachers.
A mass movement spread across the entire country shud immediately be mobilised.
To keep this movement alive, I suggest that a token amount of Rs.200/- should immediately be contributed by all .This amount may be given to the person who could lead us.This however could be voluntary as some people who do not want to contribute may choose to do so. But others should immedaitely make the contribution.
I hope we all can unite for a common cause.BUT REMEMBER TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
GOD BLESS US.
Thanks
All this messages are not true. For sure, we have not get the 6th pay still now. We initiate a strike for this alone.
please give me an address to send money
Poly teacher says:
5 weeks ago
Prof.Anil Shah How are You want Some Contacts Name of Gujarat Staff association for Polytechnic Pay ?