Shiba Inu Sephy and Me
81I had a rough start with my Shiba Inu, Sephy.
Shiba Inus can be a challenge to care for, especially as a first dog. I wanted to do my very best for my Shiba Inu puppy but I still made many mistakes.
This is the story of Shiba Inu Sephy and me.
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Because I was new to dogs, and Shiba Inus, I asked my breeder many questions. She recommended that I check out Cesar Millan, The Dog Whisperer for good dog training techniques for my Shiba.
After 4 days, I took Shiba Inu Sephy to the vet and she recommended that I return him because he was mouthy and not well behaved. The vet technician recommended that I check out Cesar Millan, The Dog Whisperer and taught me how to implement alpha rolls.
I had already fallen in love with Sephy and was not about to give up on him so I bought some DVDs of The Dog Whisperer and started to do alpha rolls.
The results were bad. Shiba Inus are a feisty, stubborn, strong-willed breed, and my little Shiba fought every time I did an alpha roll on him. While he would be slightly subdued after an alpha roll, he would quickly go back to chewing everything, running around crazily, knocking things down, jumping on every piece of furniture, mouthing on me and other people, and much more.
Life became very difficult for both Shiba Inu Sephy and me.
Alpha Rolls
NOTE: Do not perform alpha rolls on any puppy. Even traditional trainers agree that aversive techniques are not appropriate for young dogs and puppies.
However, you can start training your puppy early with reward dog training.
I signed Shiba Inu Sephy up for a SIRIUS puppy class to help with his dog socialization skills and I also got a private trainer who is versed in aversive dog training.
After watching The Dog Whisperer, I was under the impression that I could only be pack leader if I showed my Shiba Inu who was boss through more forceful aversive methods.
Sephy responded extremely well to my private trainer, Tim (not his real name). Tim is extremely good with dogs and fearless. My Shiba Inu would act out from time to time and mouth over Tim's arms. Tim was able to easily stop this with some leash jerks (using a flat collar).
One time Shiba Inu Sephy even placed his jaws on Tim's neck while being held, but Tim kept on holding him and had no problems calming Sephy down.
Tim taught me how to train my Shiba Inu using leash jerks or leash corrections. He cautioned me against over correcting and to always try and set Sephy up for success. He also instructed me not to give eye contact during corrections, and whenever possible, to try and redirect the source of corrections away from myself.
Shiba Inu Sephy enjoyed his weekly one hour lessons with Tim very much, and always gave Tim many licks. This experience showed me that aversive methods can sometimes work well if implemented by an expert with the right energy.
Leash Jerks
NOTE: If you decide to use leash jerks or other aversive techniques, it is important to apply them with the proper timing, force, and redirection.
If you apply a leash jerk with too little force, it will have no effect, and may even backfire and intensify your dog's behavioral issues. If you do not want to apply pain to your dog, then do not use leash jerks or other pain based aversive methods.
Shiba Inu Sephy responded well to my leash jerks initially.
However, when Sephy was extremely excited, for example when meeting other dogs, my jerks would have no effect. Tim ultimately recommended that I try out the prong collar and showed me how to fit it and put it on properly.
DO NOT try to slip a prong collar over your dog's head like you do a choke chain. Refer to Prong Collar Info for proper instructions on how to use a prong collar.
People commonly refer to the prong collar as providing power steering for leash jerks. I.e. the prong amplifies the force of your leash jerks, thereby delivering more pain and a greater aversive stimulus to the dog.
The prong collar was extremely effective initially. I was always worried about hurting my Shiba Inu, so my leash jerks tended to be too soft. With the prong collar, they were just right.
At this time, I also enlisted the services of a dog walker/trainer, Betty (not her real name).
Betty also prescribes to the Cesar Millan, leader of the pack type training. This suited me well because Betty did leash jerks and I thought consistency in techniques would be a good thing.
However, the situation started to go down hill from here.
Shiba Inu Sephy became extremely sensitive towards handling. He would also constantly challenge Betty, by leash biting, hand biting, and doing alligator rolls (rolling on the ground to resist moving). Sephy also discovered that Betty really dislikes his high-pitched Shiba scream, and would constantly do this to great effect.
Betty did her best in trying to control Sephy but her flavor of dog discipline was clearly not working well with Sephy. Finally, she wanted to escalate her leash jerks by using a choke chain.
Given the disturbing statistics on choke chains I decided that choke chains are not an option.
At this point, the leash jerks were also becoming less and less effective for me.
My Shiba Inu was becoming habituated to them.
I was not implementing the leash jerks quickly enough so sometimes they were more like tugs and thus had no effect. I was also over-correcting and my leash jerks did not have enough force even with the prong collar.
To continue with aversive techniques, I would have to escalate the force of my leash jerks or switch to the electronic or shock collar. I was unwilling to go down this extreme path, so I decided to explore all other dog training possibilities.
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I stopped dog walking with Betty and started looking for a new dog trainer.
This time I checked out all types of trainers, rather than just the Cesar Millan, aversive type trainers.
While doing this, I received a fair amount of insults, scolding, and rabid preaching from trainers of the other camp, the reward dog training camp.
I always think it is rather ironic that many of the books and people who support the use of reward training (positive reinforcement training) would resort to aversive methods (insults, rabid preaching) when trying to convince other people of the effectiveness of their positive reinforcement methods.
Luckily, there were several reward dog trainers who practiced what they preached and based on their advice, I got the book Bones Would Rain From the Skyby Suzzane Clothier. After reading a few chapters,
I decided to stop using aversive methods and try using only reward obedience training.
I would like to say that the reward dog training worked like a charm and from then on everybody lived happily ever after.
Reality, of course, is a bit messier. First of all Shiba Inu Sephy gets bored easily; with everything, even his food.
For the reward methods to work I had to identify a variety of dog treats that he liked and cycle through them so that he remains motivated throughout the day. I also got a greater variety of toys and used external opportunities, such as meeting other dogs and meeting people, as rewards.
Walking on a loose leash (without the use of leash jerks) was a bit challenging at first, but stopping and sometimes doing a 180 when the leash gets taut works very well.
I am a lot happier with reward obedience training.
Frankly I do not have the temperament for implementing an aversive correction with enough force for my Shiba Inu. I was also losing my Shiba Inu's trust because I was over correcting and not protecting him from other people (e.g. dog walker) who were also over correcting him.
Sephy is responding much better to the reward methods and is more relaxed and happy. Being an adolescent, he still misbehaves occasionally, but a lot less so than when I was using aversive methods, such as leash jerks and alpha rolls.
Shiba Inus are very strong willed and stubborn. A Shiba Inu will almost always respond to an aversive stimulus by fighting back. The greater the stimulus, the more threat he feels, and the more he fights back.
This is not to say that aversive methods will never work on a Shiba Inu. As I discussed before, under the hands of an expert trainer (Tim), Sephy actually responded well to leash jerks. However, I have not seen him respond so with anyone else, even other experienced trainers.
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Aversive Dog Training
All aversive methods deliver an unpleasant stimulus to your dog.
Some techniques such as the leash jerk and the electronic collar deliver pain. Saying that such techniques do not deliver pain and is only used to get your dog's attention is rubbish.
For such techniques to work effectively, it must deliver the proper level of pain so as to motivate your dog to follow your command which will ultimately stop the pain.
On the other hand, aversive methods may get more consistent and prompt responses to your commands because pain is a strong motivator.
What I learned from Shiba Inu Sephy:
- Get information from multiple sources and do not take what one person, even a popular trainer, says as truth. Do your own research and try out the techniques yourself.
- The "best technique" is different for every dog-owner pair. So called "experts" will try to brow beat you into using their favorite techniques by using moral arguments and/or by telling lies. The effectiveness of the different techniques will depend on your training skill (timing, delivery of stimulus), on your temperament, on your dog's temperament, and on the current level of trust and respect between you and your dog. Be honest and let your own moral compass steer you.
- Start out with reward obedience training. With reward training there is no danger of losing your dog's trust. There is no danger of injuring your dog physically or mentally if you make training mistakes. Follow the Nothing In Life Is Free (NILIF) program and be a fair but strong pack leader through the control of resources.
- Things can go really wrong with aversive methods. Your dog may misbehave more, get destructive or aggressive, lose respect and trust for you, get stressed and break down completely, run away, or get injured. Always get direction from a good professional trainer before trying out pain or dominance based aversive methods.
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Hi Vince. One thing that my Shiba absolutely dislikes, are other dominant dogs. Sometimes it is difficult to tell from the body language of the other dog, it could be a look, body posture, etc. Shibas tend to be naturally dominant, so if another dog "challenges" them, they will return the favor and escalate.
Many Shibas also do not like other dogs getting into their space. They do not like rude, in-your-face type of dogs.
Finally Shibas are extremely sensitive to the energy of all the humans around them. When my Shiba was reactive to other dogs, I used to get really stressed and a bit afraid because he would act out and then redirect onto me when I tried to stop him. This only made things worse because he easily sensed my change in energy and started stressing out even more. It is very important to always be calm and in control when a Shiba is acting out. I also avoid people and other dogs with bad energy.
As they get older, some Shibas may start to exhibit more dog aggression because they become more confident, and more dominant.
Here are some of the things that I tried on my Shiba:
http://hubpages.com/_srec/hub/How-to-Deal-With-Dog
The thing that helped the most for my Shiba is to ignore other dogs and create neutral experiences. Desensitization exercises (in a controlled situation) are also important to help your Shiba learn that the best way to deal with other dogs is to focus on you and move-on. Remember to start with a low stimulus situation - perhaps with the t.v. with the volume turned down. Then you can slowly raise the volume as your Shiba gets more comfortable with the situation. Then you can start desensitization with a calm dog in a quiet nearby soccer field or parking lot, etc.
Please let me know how it goes.
Hey its your fav. person. is that you in the pics?
Yes! I'm the redhead with the cute ears :)
Gorgeous dogs. I really applaud you for spitting on choke chains and any other forms of aversion training. Dogs are human too! (as my Uncle Ken always used to say). Dogs are such fabulous animals and I wonder sometimes if I'm a good enough person for them -- do they get enough exercise, fun, and adventure in their lives, etc. Having dogs has made me a better human being. I'm glad to have found your hubs, and am looking forward to reading more.
"Dogs are such fabulous animals and I wonder sometimes if I'm a good enough person for them" -- I feel exactly the same way. You have a wonderful way with words!
My dogs have really helped me relax a lot more, and not sweat the small stuff. During the dark ages, while I was hating life, I read "The Art of Happiness" by the Dalai Lama. Although I really enjoyed the book, and wanted to follow the lessons within, I was unable to so on my own. It was very surprising later on to discover that my dogs have helped put me on this very same path, without me even realizing it. And this time, with Sephy and Shania as guides, my step is lighter and I can actually move forward while whistling a merry tune. :)
I can't thank you enough for posting about your experience and method in teaching Shibas! I got Haruki three weeks back and he's doing great, but I am getting so many advice on how to teach Haruki, I was became more angry with myself. Because nothing seem to work properly. He gets so much more aggressive when I'm using the "older/traditional" training method... which upsets me and Haruki... and also my family. I soon learned that positive ways can actually work well too. Than the vet told me to use another way.. .. which made it worst. .. Sigh. It's like having a kid, so many suggestions... my head hurts and I began to get confused and mostly frustrated. By reading your page and your blog, it HELPED me out A LOT! Thank you!!!!!!! You're so detailed and so helpful! I am so glad! It's so nice in getting advice from people who actually owns a Shiba. Thank you! Sorry, I know my message is full of thanks, but really! THANKS!
Tsuki, So nice to meet you. Thank you very much for your kind words :) It really put a smile on my face.
The main reason why I write about my experiences is so that others need not repeat the same mistakes that I made with Shiba Inu Sephy. I am very glad that it was helpful to you :)
Hugs and kisses to Haruki. Please let me know if you have further questions and thanks for leaving such a nice comment :)
I have my first shiba inu and all these things sound oh so familiar. He leash bites and is very nippy, sometimes more than others. I'm about at my wits end, i've tried doing the yelping and ignoring to stop the biting but he doesn't care, he goes to chewing on the carpet or chasing his tail.
Please help! I still love the little guy but i want to steer him in the right direction while hes still young.
Hello Christina,
Some things that helped me with my Shiba Inu -
1. Put him in a time-out area if he escalates his biting behavior. I use the laundry room as my time-out because it is boring, has no carpet, and nothing else that Shiba can chew on. Leave him in there for a couple of minutes then let him out. If he goes back to biting, non-mark him (ack-ack) and put him back in time-out for about 10 minutes and so on.
2. Put a drag lead on him with a flat collar so that you can more easily control him.
Here are some other things that helped -
http://hubpages.com/_srec/hub/how-to-train-a-puppy
Here is another article about achieving pack leadership with a Shiba -
http://hubpages.com/_srec/hub/Pack-Leader-Being-Pa
I had a lot of troubles with my Shiba so I wrote a lot about my experiences with him. I also have many articles on my website -
http://www.shibashake.com/shiba-inu-tips-informati
Let me know if you have more questions. It will get a lot better once your Shiba understands that bad behaviors will get him nowhere, and only good behaviors are rewarded. Hang in there - it will get better! :)
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vince mietlicki says:
9 months ago
My Shiba has suddenly become very aggressive with other dogs, but not with people. It is as if he thinks the other dogs are going to harm me. Having been separated from our cat for about two years, he recently started grooming the cat's ears and looks forward to going into her room. He seems passive with her, but active with other dogs. This is very hard to figure out the changes in his behavior. He is 2.5 years old and even attacks dogs on TV when he sees them. I am trying to break this behavior, but have had little success.