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Should You Try Salvia Divinorum? The Intense Hallucinations, Risks and Legality of Salvia

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By recovering addict


Photo: Epistis (flickr)
Photo: Epistis (flickr)

Most web-pages on Salvia seem to either rail against the "dangerous new drug" or preach the wonders of the divinorum experience (while often selling the extracts!). Neither point of view seem entirely credible to me because of such inherent bias, either for or against the substance.

The Salvia information on this page is neutral and strives to be factual. You must decide for yourself whether or not you wish to use the (still legal) hallucinogenic substance - Whether the risks are worth the rewards.


What Is Salvia Divinorum?

Salvia Divinorum is bar none the most potent psychoactive substance known to man (by weight). It no longer grows naturally except as a cultivar, and has been used for eons by the Mazatec Indians of Oaxaca Mexico in shamanistic rituals.

Shamans traditionally prepared the plant for ingestion by crushing the leaves into a juice and making a tincture. Salvia is used by the Mazatecs in religious ceremonies of purification and healing. Contemporary users are far more likely to smoke the dried leaves or an intensified extract of the leaves.

The psychoactive ingredient in Salvia is Salvinorin A. Although it is an incredibly potent substance, it does not appear to be toxic in any dosage, and animal model studies of Salvinorin A on rats did not reveal any physiological damage even in response to large administered doses.

How Is Salvia Taken?

Eating or drinking the leaves either does not work, or works very poorly, to deliver the active ingredient to the body.

Salvia can be taken in the form of a quid, which is a bundle of leaves held together in the mouth. With a quid, the user holds the leaves in the mouth for as long as they can, and the psychoactive Salvinorin is absorbed through the oral mucous membranes of the mouth.

Salvia can also be smoked, and this is the far more common means of delivery for contemporary "trippers". Users will either smoke the dried leaves or a concentrated extract of dried leaves. Salvinorin A is released at very high temperatures (240 degrees Celsius) so some smokers will use a torch to burn the leaves, and many prefer to cool the heated smoke through a water pipe or vaporizer, to reduce irritation to the lungs.

How Long Is the High?

The duration before and of onset varies depending on the means of administration. Chewing a quid results in a slower onset and a longer high – of up to 90 minutes. Smoking salvia results in an almost immediate high that will last at peak for only a few minutes, and will have subsided almost completely within about 15 minutes.

The onset after smoking is so fast that many users report peaking as they exhale the smoke they have been holding in their lungs.

Most users report feeling only a mild "afterglow" after a completed salvia trip, and hangovers are not associated with the non toxic drug.

What are the effects?

Salvia is very intense. The hallucinations are usually pleasant but can become overwhelming, or even frightening. Sensations can include:

  • Becoming "one" with an inanimate object- like a table or chair
  • Journeying through space
  • Total insight and awareness of the world
  • Out of body
  • Multiple realities simultaneously
  • A loss of conventional geometry
  • A loss of "self"
  • Unconventional feelings of gravity

Salvia is not a party drug. Experimenting with Salvia in an uncontrolled and boisterous environment is a recipe for a very bad time.

Because salvia can be associated with a loss in coordination, open flames, like candles, should be extinguished prior to tripping, and movement is not recommended. Driving while on Salvia is very dangerous. Most experienced users will recommend that the best place to do salvia is on a bed in a darkened room with a friendly and sober "sitter" making sure that things go OK.

Having a sober sitter guide the experience is very strongly recommended.


Dangers of Salvia?

Users high on salvia may fall over and hurt themselves. Obviously, due to a loss in coordination, any kind of driving or the operation of any machinery while high is incredibly dangerous.

Salvia hallucinations can also be scary or disturbing, and some people report that a bad trip leaves them feeling dysphoric for a while.

There are few long term studies of the drug, and so no one can rule out long or even short term harm effects, but at present the drug is though to be a non toxic and non addictive substance.

If you decide to do salvia though, you may not have a good time. To reduce the odds of a bad trip, think carefully about when and where you will try the drug, and make sure you are in a controlled and comfortable environment, that you don't need to go anywhere or do anything for a while, and you have a sober sitter to help you along.

Is Salvia Legal?

Salvia is currently legal in 39 states. Salvia is illegal in the following states

  • Tennessee
  • Louisiana
  • Missouri
  • Oklahoma
  • Delaware
  • Maine
  • North Dakota
  • Illinois
  • Kansas
  • Florida
  • Virginia

The DEA calls Salvia a "Drug of Concern" and many other states are considering some form of legislation against the drug.


A short student documentary observing three people try Salvia for the first time

Who Uses Salvia?

No one really knows. A study done at the University of San Diego showed that 4% of students polled there had tried the drug.

How much does it cost?

Salvia is sold on the internet. Prices range from about 30$ an ounce for dried leaves, to a gram of 5x extract for about $15 to a gram of 60x extract for about $60. If you live in a jurisdiction that does not allow the sale of Salvia, buying over the internet is still illegal.


Drug Testing

Salvia will not show up in any drug test.

Should You Try Salvia?

Getting educated about the realities, risks and rewards of a salvia experience is a must do prior to journeying that shamanistic voyage. It is intense, and better thought of as a spiritual exploration than a recreational high.'

If you do try it, be prepared for extreme hallucinations, keep a sitter nearby and stay safe.

Salvia is not always fun - a bad trip filmed

Why you need a sitter...

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Sterling Sage  says:
16 months ago

Thanks so much for writing this hub!  In light of all the negative media attention Salvia has been getting lately, it's more important than ever to provide accurate information.

Dr. Phil's recent show about it consisted almost entirely of lies, misinformation and alarmist propaganda.  The way they described Salvia was almost exactly the opposite of its true nature.

There are other talk shows doing the same type of thing, and the T.V. and print news isn't much better.  It seems like the reporters just aren't researching the subject before publishing stories about it.

The description you give here is pretty close to the way I understand Salvia, and I think most people who know much about it would feel the same way.  I'm inspired to write my own hub to help educate our Hub Pages community, along with general public.

I hope you work hard on promoting this hub.  Keep up the good work!

WildOne  says:
13 months ago

I would say to anyone planning to try this to take the advice about a sitter if you can, make sure you are in a "good place", that you have no where to go for at least an hour even though the peak wears off quickly.

I thought I would recap my first experience, it might be my last, not because it was bad but it is just a bit intense for my likes, for me it was like a short acid trip.

I got the salvia from an on-line place that I had heard was honest and had good product, I got one of their sort of starter kits but for them to put 15x in a starter kit... well that is another matter.

I will be the first to admit I did just about everything wrong I could, little research, just heard about it on TV, found the place, bought it, tried it.

So I will first give my frame of mind, I did not think it would work, I was expecting it to be hype or a rip off, that was not the case which I found out quickly.

So with that mindset I start with some regular leaves and mixed in some 15X extract is a small pipe, not that size of the pipe really matters since by the 3rd hit you don't even know what a pipe is anymore much less how to use one, which is a good thing.

I made up a pipe and was at my computer looking over my email when I take the first hit, I hold it for perhaps 15-20 seconds, go on deleting junk mail and take the second hit, I suspect it was somewhere about then it hit but I was not even aware anything was happening yet, then the third and final hit.

All I can say is holy smokes, I was gone, for the next 15 or so minutes I was in a total out of body experience and it was only as I was coming down that I realized it. I actually became aware of that I was like 2 people, me and someone observing me and talking, that turned out the be my inner voice.

None of this was scary or upsetting, I would have to say it was neutral since I did not really direct it or expect it. As it was wearing off and I became aware that the my inner-voice was in fact me, it started explaining that to me, now that was weird, I was explaining to myself that I was me, very hard to understand unless you get the same expierence.

The other effect I started to understand as it was wearing off was the feeling like I was observing the whole thing like it was on TV, the odd trippy part was that my PC screen seemed to have a life of its own yet would not work as if I was trying will the mail to scroll and it didn't and attempting to read it was pointless.

Then as fast as it came one it wore off and I was aware I think of everyrthing that happened, I has lost the sense of time so I was amazed that 20 minutes as gone by, it seemed like just a few seconds.

So overall while I have no complaints as in nothing negative happened, this is not pot, this is not mild, it is a very intense burst of hallucination followed by a controlled and gentle return to reality.

I can see how this would be for some but it is not really for my, I wanted to just escape a little and this was a lot more. Good luck to all that decide to try it, that was my experience. (Oh and don't start with 15x!! just the leaves will likely be more than enough for a first try)

chris miller  says:
10 months ago

i'mtrying it the lst few days, hard. it's bogus.

thatoneguy  says:
9 months ago

first time i tried savia d was actualy on accident i was smoking "tobaco" and found a small bag with 60x written on it. i was then told to load a rather large pipe and cache it all. crazy mistake. i inhaled and found my self in the garage in the deep freeze half an hour later. i dont tell you this to scare you but to simply remind you to be safe and make sure your sitter is sober and or not a dick

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Bard of Ely  says:
7 months ago

I used to grow it but only took it once in a dose that was strong enough to work and I didn't like it. I used to often take mushrooms and was fine on them going out and about but on salvia I couldn't even get it together to go out my back garden. I never took it again.

Anon  says:
6 months ago

The low dosages don't do anything and the high dosages will turn your head inside out. I tried on the salvia zone 20mg bronze dosage to no effect, then i tried the salvia zone 120mg blue dosage and was hit by a train. Intense feeling of heightened senses, and strange and a little bit unsettling hallucinations, but nothing scary. Definite loss of coordination, but somehow i ended up running from one end of the street to the other as the lights were either good or bad, deciding if i should stay in the dark or go towards the light. Extreme loss of time perception, at some points a minute felt like it took an hour to pass and at some points 5 minutes had dissappeared. Second run with the blue dose was sprinkled on some "tobbacco", complemented it well. Almost felt like an intense drunk feeling, but you can still think. Enjoyable experience if saved for rare occassions, a little expensive and probably exhausting for daily or regular use (strong dosages run like $60-110 a gram).

ya mama  says:
5 months ago

i can smoke pounds of it your all soft

Mike  says:
5 months ago

this stuff is pretty awesome. I smoked some my whole room starting looking really cool. My floor looked like waves were going through it, there was a small waterfall coming through my window..and a face that was smoking. hahah. And I also remember seeing a blue snake slide across my floor. Pretty amazing stuff. ; )

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bittybrasize  says:
5 months ago

Thanks for this article; I only wish I'd come across it before I tried salvia. I didn't expect it to be so intense, and I had a terrifying experience of visual hallucinations and being unable to move. I was catatonic, basically. I'd caution anyone with a dissociative disorder or dissociative tendencies to be very careful with this drug.

Anti-Dolt  says:
2 weeks ago

I knew someone who used to order this stuff through the mail. I guess some people consider Salvia as a legal alternative to marijuana, but I'd say it is more unhealthy than typical weed. The person I knew only had mild hallucinations, but it was not uncommon to see them passed out in a whim.

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frogyfish  says:
7 days ago

Well...yucky hub because it is yucky truth. But great writer! My understanding is that the salvia is used as a 'quitting' agent, i.e. used to help detoxify and end varied addictions. Only heard about it shortly before it became illegal.

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frogyfish  says:
6 days ago

Woops...the hub is great! Just about yucky stuff - in my opinion. So there. :-)

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