Spicy Seduction and Dating Hubs: Critical Reviews
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Objective:
One thing that we can all agree on is the preponderance of garbage that fills the internet. Millions upon millions are spent on methods to separate the wheat from the chaff. In my own small way, I intend to contribute to this sorting process by reviewing but a few Hubs that pertain to dating and seduction.
My selection will be more or less random.
Suggested Links
- TOP 10 PLACES TO MEET HOT WOMEN IN NYC
- Stratagem for Meeting Hot Women
Substantive hub with a specfic technique of making conversation with hot women you don't know. - Attraction in Action: One Step Closer to that Hottie
A detailed discussion on the qualities women find attractive in men.
Interesting Read
This is a blatantly promotional hub--poorly written and poorly organized. However, there are nuggets of good information herein. Furthermore the PUA method here referenced is one of many reputable seduction schools of thought. This particular hub is promoting actual-in-the-field training on picking up women in London (such training can be found in any major city). Be warned! I understand the price can be well over $1000 for a weekend of training. These programs are extremely expensive--a testament to how desperate many men are to get laid! MY advice: Don't spent the money. Instead, buy the books and practice on your own with a trusted wigman. The PUA method is also know as the "Mystery Method" and can be easily found with a google search. The main course book is called "Magic Bullets" and is a worthy purchase.
One nugget of info from this hub worth noting was the following:
"Give your friend £50 pounds of your money and for every conversation you have with a new woman get him to give you £5 back. Let him do the same for you and dont give up until you have got all you money back. "
This is a VERY effective way of dealing with what people in the seduction world call "approach anxiety." Approah Anxiety is the fear of approaching a new woman for the purpose of trying to hit on her and get her number. I personally have done this and find it to be golden. You are more concerned about losing your 10 shillings, as it were, than you are about losing face for a failed attempt. The higher the stakes the better.
Being an inhabitant of the greatest city in the world myself, I thought I might make a few comments on this hub. I'm not going to enumerate all 20 of her suggestions here but will mentioned but a few noteworthy ones.
- Picnic in Central Park. This is a personal favorite of mine. If you happen to live by or frequent Columbus Circle (on the Southwestern most corner of the park) I suggest you get your edibles and potables at Whole Foods in the Time Warner Center. While you are there be sure to take a glance at the monolithic Botero sculptures inside.
- Museum of Modern Art (aka MoMA for the cognoscenti). You cannot visit this museum enough. Herein you will find, inter alia, an amazing collection of Picassos. Be sure to enjoy Picasso's famous Les Demoiselles D'Avignon featuring a menage strangely shapedprostitutes).
I'll soon post my own NYC date (and pickup) suggestions as I wasn't particularly impressed with this hubbist's list...and besides, she's from Jersey... ;)
Notwithstanding the preachiness of the title, the advice in this hub is sound. The five forbidden utterances are as follows:
- "My ex is a real ****."
- "I'm never getting married again."
- "I'm ready to start having children."
- "How do you want to split the bill?"
- "You remind me of an ex."
The first item on this list is especially good advice. One should never bad mouth one's ex on the first date. It makes you sound bitter and puts into question your judgment and ability to select good women. I would NOT mention an ex at all on the first date, but if the topic inadvertently comes up, you should use the opportunity to show that your exes were desirable. Women consider a man to be desirable when she perceives that desirable women are attracted to him. It follows then that you should portray you ex in as positive a light possible without sounding like you are still hung-up on her. Don't over do it! Always use indirection and leave much to her imagination.
Items two, three and five should be self-explanatory to anyone with the slightest degree of social awareness.
Item four, however, is a tough cooky. There is a balancing act here. In general, I tend to agree that a man should pay for the first date as I get the impression that most women do in fact agree on this point and frown being invited out and then footing the bill--besides it's rude. The feminazi exceptions who are offended by chivalry are not women you'd probably want to date anyhow. On the other hand, I cannot emphasize enough that the first date should be VERY CASUAL to such an extent that who pays is a non-issue. Therefore, dinners in a fancy restaurant would NOT be an appropriate first date. If it costs more than $20, it's probably not an appropriate first date--a round of drinks or coffee should be more than sufficient. And guess what! There are plenty of fun free first dates as well. For example, if by chance you happen to live in NYC, an excellent free first date is a ride on the Staten Island Ferry. You get a gorgeous view of NY harbor, the Statute of Liberty, the skyline and, if you're really adventurous, you can explore the wonders of Staten Island itself--all for free! Attempting to impress a woman with extravagances communicates to her that you feel you are unable to impress her without the aid of your wallet--this is not likely to bode well for Mr. Big.
This hub is quite good and has interesting content. The author lists five qualities:
- Passion
- Quiet Confident
- Bedroom skills
- Selflessness
- Patience
Although this may not appear to be an exciting, or even relevatory list, the author develops each of these items quite well and takes them in a direction that is sometimes unexpected. For instance, "selflessness" is not about how a may should sacrifice his individuality and ambition for the sake of his woman. Rather, it's the selflessness he has toward third parties outside the relationship (e.g. the little old lady crossing the street). I found this very interesting and it rings true that woman would generally find this very appealing.
The author also develops the quality of "patience" well; to wit, knowing how to deal with "a woman in a panicky, emotional fit." Women are nuts--even our female author makes this admission. A man distinguishes himself by how he deals with this nuttiness. A weak man reacts and responds emotionally and negatively to the drama his woman creates. He may withdraw, yell back, ignore or do other unmentionable things. A powerful man, while standing up for himself, is UNREACTIVE. He doesn't get nuts also or run away. Instead, he smiles knowingly and shows his positive (not sarcastic) sense of humor. He might make a loving gesture that dispels his woman's hormonal meltdown. In the abstract, his response should not be a preprogrammed reaction, but a creative act of will and love. By doing this he also shows in a positive way that he is in control and isn't an emotional tampon.
This is a decent hub with substance and a worthy read for a novice seducer. It's even worthy of a glance by a more advanced seducer as it summarizes important information. The author who sounds like a woman, since it's a bit disparaging to men in a feminine way, lists the following qualities:
- Un-Needy/Laid Back
- Create Your Own Reality
- Funny
- Humble
- Challenging
- Notice Details
- Creative
- Caring/Thoughtful
- Positive
- Intelligent
- Well-Groomed
Of the items listed above 1, 2, 6 and 11 are particularly important. "Creating Your Own Reality" is particularly powerful and archetypally masculine. You have a strong sense of individuality and purpose, not easily influenced, not easily thrown off by women. In the abstract, "Creating Your Own Reality" means being pro-active, non-reactive. You are your own point of reference in making value judgments. You are internally motivated to act, and not some automaton that reacts in a preprogrammed way to external stimuli.
I, however, beg to differ about item 4. Humility has its place, but I tend to think women find arrogance more attractive--especially when it's mixed with humor. "Cocky-comedy" is a staple attraction generating device. However, this is not to be confused with bragging. Nothing, but nothing, broadcasts insecurity more than bragging and making an extravagant show of yourself. If you're truly hot to trot, it will be obvious, sooner or later, without your saying a word.
This hub does have some meat to it; it is nevertheless promotional. I find it interesting because the substantive information contained therein is INCORRECT.
"Well, perhaps you've found some tips and hints on "how to seduce women". I found one course that teaches men to "neg" women. ("Neg" means "treat women like dirt". Make them feel insecure and inferior.)....I gotta be honest with you. It does work. Mostly."
I would STRONGLY advise not taking this gentleman's advice. First of all, what he is describing is not a "neg." He's describing how to be a social retard.
First, a "Neg" is NOT an insult; rather it is a more subtle comment, solicited or unsolicited, that can be interpreted as either POSITIVE or NEGATIVE. It's an ambiguous statement that leaves the woman wondering..."Did he mean that as a compliment?"
Second, current pickup theory suggests that "negs" be used only but rarely, and only with the very most attractive women who always get complimented ad nauseum. The theory is that if an ultra desirable woman encounters a guy who doesn't obsequiously lick their ass, he is distinguishes himself.
Example of a neg: "Wow! What a nice pony-tail you have hair...me and my friend were wondering if it's real."
But a negs is more than just an ambiguous statement. They are CONTEXT specific. Unless you are very clever and confident, and unless the woman is a goddess, I urge caution with this technique.
Bottom Line: A neg is not an insult--it's a cleverly ambiguous remark tailored to a specific context with the intent of defying the expectations of a highly attractive woman.
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Comments
"Quiet Confident" this is what it all boils down to. being a stud or whatever you wish to call it you have to have this Quiet ConfidentI have read through most of the hubs you addressed in this article and you did a great job of pulling out the good stuff and leaving out the crap! great job
It's your privilege to believe that, Nicky. You may be surprised to hear that even young women believe in soulmates - it's not just us middle-aged has-beens. When your looks are gone and you can no longer con women into believing your lines, you may think again. But I'm guessing you think that by that time, you won't care about sex. I'll leave it to you to find out.
double your dating is a good ebook i've read on the subject
I love how all of you come out of the woodword after I added that cleavage shot! Tsk Tsk!
Wow exciting Cleavage...Hey, dude. Real Alphas don't study up on the subject. They also have like, real relationships and stuff, by choice. You must be like, a Beta reading beta material, trying to convince other betas your an Alpha.
Haha where do you come up with this stuff?
wow....colol stuff....
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Marisa Wright says:
12 months ago
Some fair reviews. I think it's important to distinguish between two types of dating Hubs - those aimed at people who are looking for a life partner, and those who are looking for...something I'm not allowed to type in this comment!
If you're looking for a soulmate, I don't think aiming to "score" using a dishonest approach can ever be a good basis. Most women would find that hard to forgive in the long term and it would come back and bite you every time the relationship hit a rocky patch.