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Does StumbleUpon Dilute Effectiveness of Advertising in Pay for Page View Systems

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By nutuba


The World Has Changed

First of all, before we get out of the starting gate, I want to point out that anything I say here is not an indictment of StumbleUpon (SU) and those freelance sites that pay contributors based on the number of page hits their articles receive (e.g., Triond and Associated Content (AC)).

In fact, I'm a fan of SU and a frequent contributor at both Triond and AC.

All I'm doing here is making a couple of observations and wondering about things out loud. The folks who run the organizations mentioned above have surely already thought this stuff through and probably have already made adjustments for it.

In the old days, like last year, if you submitted an article at Triond or AC, it had to be pretty good writing for it to receive a significant number of page hits. You could gather all the "friends" you wanted, but if you didn't write good stuff, even those friends were going to be reluctant to spend their time reading your blather.

By "good stuff" I mean writing that is well organized (i.e., there's some sort of flow that is at least somewhat logical or followable); the writing is correct grammatically (its and it's are used correctly, along with their / there / they're, whose / who's, and object pronouns are used when they're supposed to be used); and the spelling is correct.

The author also had to do considerable "marketing" of the article; link to it from a blog, send the link to friends via email, etc.

Now, the writers at sites such as Triond and AC are paid, at least in part, through money earned from advertisers. At Triond, the advertiser agrees that his ad can go on a certain article for a certain pay per view rate. Triond gets half that money; the author gets the other half.

Naturally, it's in the author's best interest (and Triond's best interest too) to get as many page hits as possible on that article.

The issue that is raised is this. How does the inflation of page hits affect the effectiveness of the advertising, when those page hits are unsolicited by the recipient?

When a potential reader visits a site looking for a specific article, or an article in a specific category, the ads associated with that article are probably going to be somewhat relevant to the reader's interests. For example, suppose the reader wants to learn about beekeeping. He searches for beekeeping articles, and follows links from the search engine. Assuming that the ads are matched as closely as possible to the articles, he may find ads that are meaningful to him. The actuarials predict that of those types of people who visit a site with those particular ads, a certain number of people will respond to those ads.

The game changes when people get to a site via stumbling. When a site is placed in front of a reader so that it can get a page hit, whether or not the reader wanted to look at that page, the advertiser will end up paying for that viewer even though he may be less likely to pay attention to the ad. If lots of such users are found, the advertiser could end up paying for the views even though the site visitors aren't paying attention to the ads.

For example, someone who intentionally goes to an article about football will be more interested in the advertisements attached to that article than my grandmother, who may get to that article just because she stumbled her way there. Grandma at this point in her life has no interest in athletic products.  Do pay per page view sites take this into account?

The advertisers are still paying for page hits, and with StumbleUpon it's easy to blast a link to hundreds of people in one shot. Thus, the numbers of page hits are rapidly rising. However, the percentage of people who are interested in the associated advertisements, I'll bet, is significantly lower than it used to be.

Make sense?

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. It seems like an interesting economics lesson to me though.

Any thoughts or comments? Am I way off base in my thinking, or does this seem to be a reasonable question?


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Candie V profile image

Candie V  says:
7 months ago

I'm just starting to investigate these sights, so this is really helpful, a good place to begin. Thank you!

gbychan profile image

gbychan  says:
7 months ago

I'm thinking that the advertisers probably thought of that long ago...and it's in their best economic interest to have done something about it. I've heard of arrangements made so that people clicking on ads on their own sites or readers who just browse but don't buy don't inflate the number of views. Maybe something similar has been done in the case you've mentioned.

myra636 profile image

myra636  says:
7 months ago

Thanks for the info

Frieda Babbley profile image

Frieda Babbley  says:
7 months ago

You've answered some questions I had about these sites, and also raise some the very same questions I've been having and trying to mull over. My brief thought is that at some point a stumbler is going to like what he or she reads or know someone who will, and therefor in some way pass it on so that at some point the clicks will be made. I think a balance of types of sites and ways an article or post is promoted is important for the writer to consider. Many people get too antsy and starry eyed so to speak and look for page views over the kind of views that really matter. At any rate, how a page is advertised by the writer, as well as the owned site, can make or break an article in the end. The winner prevails. My brief thought anyway. Great topic.

nutuba profile image

nutuba  says:
7 months ago

Frieda, you are right. A balance is indeed important for the writer to consider. Honestly, the thing that helps the most in the long run (I think) is quality of the article. There are some very good writers out there whose work I am frequently perusing, looking for gems. It's a great way for me to improve my own writing. On the other hand, for those writers who send / stumble a lot of mediocre stuff my way ... well, I end up going out of my way to avoid reading their stuff.

When I like something I've read, I push Stumble's "Like It" button, and that marks the site as one of my favorites. As other people stumble through my favorites, they'll see that site too. Sometimes I'll share someone else's work with hundreds of people through Stumble, but only if it's a piece I really like.

Thanks for the comment!

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