Suspension of Mark to Market is Fraud
77Some Errors Regarding My Mark to Market Position
I hate to admit mistakes, lol. But suspension of Mark to Market did not have the effect of increasing libor rates. In fact, we have had a period of stability since M2M was suspended. This doesn't make transparency less important, it just means that we have given a respite by the international central bank cartel, focused in the Bank of International Settlements. I fully view this bank's timing sceptically. It allowed a bubble then burst it, when it had the framework in place to stop the bubble dead in its tracks. This misuse of the Mark to Market application forced the BIS and FASB to back off and allow a suspension. However as my site on Mark to Market Vigilantes shows, it is all about to start over again as a new round of M2M is set to be applied!
Update: FASB Wants Credibilty Back. Banks Will Have To Show Loan Values.
Banks will no longer be able to hide their loan values in footnotes. This new rule will force banks to show their loan values up front where all investors can see them. Evidently Citi (not to be confused with Citibank) had loans that were only worth a fraction of what mark to model allowed them to be worth. Lesson is: banks are far more insolvent than you think, which is why they are adding big bucks to their excess reserves, money that just sits without being loaned out. Here is the Bloomberg link to why FASB wants to do right by the investor, finally!
The banks will still get to manipulate loan values, but it will be easy to compare them with the real state of the loans that will have to go on the balance sheets. Bloomberg says that most media ignored this story. They want happy banks. But folks, there is nothing happy in bankville.
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Suspension of Mark to Market is Fraud
Every pumper of stocks is saying that suspension of mark to market is good for banks, good for the stock market, Suspension of mark to market is where the banks estimate the value of assets that the banks are refusing to sell that are labeled as "toxic" assets instead of letting the free market determine the value of the assets.
Bill Seidman and others have gone onto CNBC saying that these banks cannot mark to market the assets because the market is frozen. He said that the banks don't want to sell and the investors don't want to buy. However that spin is not quite true.
The truth is, there is a price at which investors would buy the toxic assets, yet that price would kill the banks. They don't want to sell at that price!!
It is unfortunate that this fraud is going to be buttressed by that friend of international bankers, Tim Geithner. The treasury of the United States is going to lend money in order for investors to buy the assets that the banks refuse to sell at market value. But this is fraud because the price at which investors will buy these assets is not a real fair market price.
These investors, with loans and guarantees from the United States government, will purchase these assets at inflated unrealistic prices that are far above market value. They believe they will kindle a market for these assets, however, I would say that unless this becomes a destructive bubble, which will end up in the mother of all crashes, the private sector will not buy without the guarantees or government loans. And you certainly cannot sell your house for an inflated price based on government guarantees.You cannot make up a value for that house that does not reflect the free market value. Just because you are getting rent (which seems to be declining on average) does not mean you can avoid the free market in valuing your house.
We need to watch these events carefully, because if bubble economics and smoke and mirrors becomes the "solution", then our economy is worthless in any intrinsic sense.
I predict that libor rates, ie the rates that banks charge each other to lend to each other, will increase because of less transparancy of the banks with toxic assets that were not even all revealed prior to the relaxation of M2M accounting.
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The housing market could freeze up just like the toxic asset market has frozen. If many buyers refuse to pay artificially high housing prices because sellers refuse to lower the house prices, you would think that the sellers are dumb.
But if the banks don't want to sell overpriced toxic assets then they are seen as being shrewd businessmen. Then they whine to the taxpayer to cover their losses!
What people do not realize is that every transaction, including the selling of stock, is based upon a marginal transaction, not based upon on those who hold long term. Who is to say that this bear rally is not a giant manipulation?
And people say with regard to the bank assets that they are performing above the selling price, that they are more valuable in terms of income than that which is reflected in the selling price. But that does not change the fact that at the margin, these assets trade lower. This lower trade is a warning of lower future earnings and greater defaults. If this were not the case, investors would buy the assets at a higher price! We are looking at real voodoo economics with regard to the pricing of bank assets.
And at the margin, house prices are declining. If that is interfered with in any way, the market for housing could freeze up. As it is we are somewhat frozen now.
As far as the banks are concerned, they are going to be a bottomless pit of taxpayer liability as the Alt A and Option Arms reset in massive numbers in 2010 and 2011. However, China has said that they are worried about American bond investments. If we spend into oblivion they may not be there to buy our bonds! Add this reality to the gimmick of mark to model and we have a very unsettling future for the world economy.
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Suspension of Mark to Market in the News
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- TOP NATIONAL & INTERNATIONAL HEADLINESCentral Penn Business Journal1 second ago
BUSINESS: Jobless claims fall unexpectedly as layoffs ease Click here to read the full story. U.S.: Airline attack could lead to more scanners Click here to read the full story. WORLD: Taliban claim blast killing Americans at CIA base Click here to read the full story. OUT OF THE ORDINARY: W. Pa. man buys home at tax sale, finds it razed Click here to read the full story.
- Duneland 2009 Year in Review: There's no place like homeChesterton Tribune16 hours ago
Of all the issues that made the news repeatedly and fatiguingly over the course of 2009 in Duneland—the sour economy, late property tax bills, and political warfare over regional development—the top story of the year in Duneland was only 13 minutes in the making.
- A look backOdessa American20 hours ago
A list of stories that made headlines in Odessa in 2009. January 5 – House Speaker Tom Craddick dropped his bid for a fourth term in the Texas House of Representatives after declining support in favor of Rep. Joe Straus.
- Leach files motion, UCLA & Wisconsin win bowl gamesKAIT Jonesboro27 hours ago
Plus, Jason Bay signs with the Mets.
- Police beatOpelousas Daily World29 hours ago
n Sarah Venable, 40, 500 Raymond St., Opelousas, distribution of Schedule III drugs and two counts of violation of uniform controlled dangerous substance law in a drug-free zone.
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That is really very good article. I am glad to know. Thanks!
Wow! what a great site you've got here. Thanks for waking us up to the truth. This is a great resource that you have. So much to learn from. Keep up the good work.
They are trying to buy time. Maybe there is no more time.
"The next three years will probably tell if our banking system survives",I thinks that maybe next year....
No one is hearing, so it is likely the small investor will get fleeced again by the big boys.
Thanks, again for this info and thoughts.
Keep on Hubbing!
The next three years will probably tell if our banking system survives. But the banking system could survive and inflation could be dangerously high. We are not out of the woods even if they survive because loans are given based upon supply (the banks functioning) and demand. If the middle classes are hurt badly enough the demand for loans won't be there.
That could prolong the downturn for a decade, like in Japan, where demand for loans was very limited.
I hadn't heard of mark to market (I'm in the Uk, so maybe we just have a different name for it) our housing market is falling rapidly, but has a long way to go before it catches the US market up. Having said that, one of our UK papers ran a story predicting a further 55% fall before things bottom out. Looking at the way things are going internationally I'm wondering how long it will be before the banking systems become so fragile and unviable that no amount of smoke and mirrors will hide the cracks.
And the other ceos of JP Morgan and Bank of America came in and said the same thing. They are all trying to pump the market up. Then professionals short, or they sell at the top, and the middle class gets crapped on again.
Sorry for being so sceptical, but I don't trust any of them.
Oh. I suspected as much. Smoke and mirrors, in other words. The old Jedi mind trick...
Actually PGrundy, it is just an operating profit. Citibank wants to hide the bad assets in a mark to model fraud, and then claim they are in profit. Once they have to keep writing this crap down in the face of the alt a resets coming in 201 and 2011, they will have no real profit.
This mark to market sh#t has been pissing me off for weeks. Every time I see one of these parasites on TV opining about how it needs to be ditched and everything will be fine I want to reach through the screen and choke the living crap out of him. Steve Forbes was going on about this not too long ago.
They know (or think) we are stupid. So they will get their way I think. I'm very disappointed in Geithner and Obama on this score. And can you explain to me why Citi became magically profitable all of a sudden? Personally I don't see that even could have happened. What's that all about?
I am wondering about the bubble ramifications of this corruption of accounting. Will this cause another damaging bubble that will rob the middle class again or will small investors stay away this time.
You see through the veil of BS. That is exactly why the banks want to do away with mark to market.
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bgamall says:
6 weeks ago
Thanks for stopping buy guys. This we know, the banks will either have to mark to market or they will be required to increase capital requirements. At some point investors will have to know what they have on their books and how much it is worth.