THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM
64Socialism is the bridge to the final stage of Communism. Others have described it as Socialism is the prelude to Communism. One must attend classes of the Communist doctrine otherwise it is impossible to understand the entire system.
Communism cannot exist without international Communism. We have now the new name: The New World Order.
Socialism is the system where all property including property that belongs to the people now belongs to the state and later to the Communistic system.
Communism is a world system with one government and one dictator. Socialism is temporary stage; the Communism is permanent, according to the Marxist plan.
The difference between Socialism and Communism is as follows:
In Socialism there still exists:
1. The State
2.The Family
3. Religion
4. Monetary system and some property (house, small garden, small car etc).
In Socialism, the larger house will be split up and given to the homeless. The United Nations states in Habitat II. –III. already established policy, that there will be a splitting of the oversized houses and part will be given to the homeless. There will be a prescribed amount of how much square footage you may use for yourself.
Not you, but the so-called “collective” will make all decisions about you. Behind the hidden name of “collective” is a dictator. The system is brutal, since there is much opposition from losing freedom.
In the Communism there will be no state, since Communism will be spread to the entire globe. There will be no way to escape from the system except by death. The family will be eliminated. The children will belong to state. Religion of any kind will be gone. There will be a cashless society. Any property will be in the hand of the powerful system. There will be a black book and informers spying on all your activities, beliefs and opinions.
The system will dictate what to believe, how to work, how to behave, who to married. Your house, car or your boat will be not yours anymore. Nothing will be private. Your children will be determined by others what they will be their profession, not what they want to study. As it is already the schools will provide job training and not academics.
There will be no incentives on creating new inventions.
One has to live in this system to understand it. Many people are too naive to see it. I studied in my best years under the pre-Communistic regime.
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© 2009 Vladimir Uhri
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ReuVera, thanks for your valuable comment. I seen kibuts when I visited Israel but only from distance. You know it on first hand. We had also Kolchoz in Soviet block. The state owned land and all farms. They did lousy jobs, since people had not incentives and interest to work. Finally it collapsed. I do appreciate your visit.
I agree with your definition of socialism and communism and the points you make concerning private property.
However I agree with an old american indian saying that we can never really own the land.We are just stewards of the land just as we cannot own the air or water.We can only make agreements agree or disagree with each other about their use.
What is in the interest of one should also in the interest of all for a government to work at it's best.
The way the government system was setup in america the people who owned the land were given an incentive to do their best because it was in their own self interest and the interest of the nation as a whole as it gives people the incentive to protect their "property" and that can be just as much of a problem in the long run.Private property can promote selfishness rather than the what's is in the interest of all.In time the common wealth has been recognised through such ideas as "Eminent domain"the right of the government to take private property for "public" use which unfortunately is sometimes used for private business use while promoting this as if it is for the good of the public as a whole because jobs will be created as a result.Generally speaking I would have no problem with this idea as long as they were leasing that property rather than owning it,and those who were displaced were treated fairly.The difference between this and the communist system is only the few at the top dictate to the majority.In america if the majority of the people were against it the proposition may not get enough support.However there is a law in america that says the people cannot sue the government.In that sense their is little difference between capitalism and communism or socialism.It seems that the will of the people is totally subservient to the will of the dictator or dictators in a communist government and that is or seems to be less so in america.The fact is those who are willing to prop up such a system are the real power behind the system.That's why the most unscruplous of the lot rise to the top of the government.And of course there is no honor among thieves and lier's !
The very same thing can be said about governments everywhere as far as that goes.
Very interesting comment, thanks.
I agree, we are the stewards. But it is only because moral dictates it. But in origin our Founders wrote not…pursue happiness but pursue property. Later it was changed.
The Biblical statement is, which I like… loving money not having money is root of evil. If ones heart is right then there is not need to be fear of materialism. Materialism sees only money and material. Founders brought with them from Europe the Bibles.
I think that private property is private and in the past the small house in New York was as a monument of it. Skyscrapers were built around. Whatever reason of violation well backfire on us.
Some people are very preoccupied of creating jobs. But it is all propaganda, since bureaucracy and socialists artificially creates loosing jobs in US. Let me say one example. When I was in interview in Alabama University, the inventor of fiber optic endoscopes I met. They invented it and our government put red tape on it. So they sent it to Japan and in no time they made mass production and shipped it in USA. Bureaucracy is tool of destruction. Did we loose the job and business? Of course, answer is yes.
Rest you are also right. I add: We were exposed to socialistic infection for 85 plus years.
This is again a very impressive hub
Oh, Lady, thank you.
I remember the television was an american invention as was the VCR video cassette recorder and both of them ended up being licensed to japaneese and other foriegn countries and imported at a discount compared to the cost we would pay for the same product manufactured in our own country and now China is taking the lead in manufacturing and exports along with all the other countries we gave technology to.Is this patriotic or idiotic?
I know there are small groups in the world that are intentionally trying to live up to the true meaning of civilization.Hopefully they can keep the courage of their convictions
I think it is idiotic. But there are more than one factor. The philosophy came that let say insurances has to pay by employ, let say health care. I was on conference one time in Florida. There was a colege who undercharged the fee to his patients. The first rule made by medicare was an averaging But nobody knew where things go. They send to particular doctor blank check to charge whatever he wants and they paid. The reason they told him that otherwise he would ruin averaging and will upset rest of docs. Now there are ten thousands rules and regulations. It is very expensive. Medicare will bankrupt. But it is socialism. Once they give to people something it is difficult to take it away. Then hiking prices came. Greediness become fashion... I believe only God can help.
I don't understand why people want socailism when it is one step from communism. I want to stay as far away from it as possible.
Thanks for you explanaitons.
Keep on Hubbing!
eovery, I am grateful of your visit.
Beautifully done Vladimir. Private property is one of the greatest ideas ever. In fact, you can tell how successful a society will be by how well property rights (and the rule of law) are protected. Idealists just don't get it. They do not live in the real world—as it is, not a fantasy of how we wish it is. Thanks for the great Hub!
I learned, when I studied for my citizenship that sentence which our Founders said was in reality ... pursue of property, instead which was changed to pursue of happiness. Happiness is only emotional and only temporarily matter. Thanks for good comment.
For those who have ears to hear (or eyes to see) - the emperor B.O. has no clothes on.
Thanks for sharing a first hand perspective
Catlyn, Ia ma with agreement with you.
Great eye-opening hub, Vladimir. I'm just feeling more and more overwhelmed, kind of like we will indeed have our freedoms taken sooner than not. I pray the Lord comes soon!
Sometime I am sad since things are enrolling before my own eyes. Thank you. But Jesus is in charge.
Thank you for this revealing and accurate Hub on the utter failure of Socialism and its progenitor, Communism, in the real world of human dynamics...
When there is talk of property rights and the adherent value system it instills, I am reminded that shortly after the Civil War, one of the first proclamations was to give freed slaves 40 acres and a mule...this engendered pride of ownership, pride in self, and a starting point for equality in opportunity...but there it ended...it was entirely up to the former slave to provide for his family, to maintain the property, to produce more for trade and profit...the seeds of capitalism...Larry
Vladimir Uhri, thanks for explaining communism!
Maven, thank you for interesting input.
Aya Katz, thank you very much for visit and comment.
You are evidently one who has experienced the pain of living in a socialist and communist system so much of what you say and other respond to is true on a superficial level. However, the basic concepts of private property and laissez-faire capitalism dictate that there is, or should be, an ultimate "goodness" in being one who seeks selfish best interests. Nothing good ever comes from any concept of a forced "sharing of the wealth" no matter what the guise it takes. The only giving that is good is that which comes from freely giving by one individual to another, from the heart, so to speak. I strongly believe in the "Virtue of Selfishness" which is the title of a book by a great philosopher and writer Ayn Rand, who came from communist Russia many years ago. Her flagship book, "Atlas Shrugged" which was ten years in the writing, lays out her basic economic and political philosophy. Some are turned off by her belief in the efficacy of man as opposed to the concept of a supreme being. It should be required reading by everyone!
Than you for great comment also for visit. I am planing to read the book.
Vladimir: I am new to the Hub but I have found your comments well founded though we probably do not agree with everything we each believe. I called my son to wish him happy birthday today and he announced that he had finally read Atlas Shrugged and was amazed at the similarities which were outlined in a book that is now about 40+ years old, with the current state of political and economic affairs. It was only after reading about 100 pages or so that I discovered that the book was something other than a simple novel. I hope you have a comment after reading it.
Hello. I do not know author. But maybe I could find the book.
Thanks for information.
My understanding of thinks is I did experienced living in communism during my school years including Medicine. Then I practice there for 6 years before I had an opportunity to run. :-). The problem here we have is infiltration the same philosophy as I experienced there.
Materialism is basic that regime. Then all fall apart.
There is many think to say.
I like the arguements between capitalism v socialism/communism.
But all that's done here is the flaming of socialism/communism without even mentioning the positives, which they are many and even out numbers the positives of capitalism.
Of course there is negatives within socialism. I too support the wish of private property such as house, car and the freedom to better and further yourself etc.., but i do not support the ownership of private enterprise, which is based soley for the use of profit and exploitation. this leads to greed, which i see as a disease. why should only the minority own the majority of the land ? even better, why don't the minority who own everything pay for their mistakes and not the ones below ? e.g. job-cuts, increase in taxes, etc..
Vladimir there's no doubt your experiences under communism have soured your outlook on it. but most of the 'evil' and overtly dictatorship things done uder communist rule back then where only done under then name of communism. what i mean is that it was not communism in nature or in marx's terms.
If so, i'd like to hear your positives thoughts under communism ?
I believe and experienced that greediness came with materialism. If in communism the faith is eliminated, there is not anything positive left. Actually communism/socialism imported to US greediness. The hiking prices are here because hungry money socialistic "capitalists" are stealing money from us working people.
In socialistic country there was nothing more than big jail, with electric wire - big prison. All lived in fear and hate.
Here anyone can be owner anything. But people have to advance and dream big dreams not call themselves: well I will vote for, who is for little people like me. If I call myself little I cannot grow. People have to stop hate rich and become rich. But system is also hindrance.
Every country is in troubles and collapsing under socialism. But they will leave residual scars after communists gone.
Thanks for visit and comment.
Interesting is that many former country who had socialism hate America today. Why? Because they even do not know it but they listen US liberal - news TV media.














ReuVera says:
7 months ago
I testify to how Vladimir is right. I was there, I've seen this. BTW, in Israel there was (still is) a movement "kibuts", "kibutsim"- a small model of communist society. No personal possessions, children live separate from the parents, everyone has his own role, as in beehive. It didn't work. Didn't! There are still kibutsim in Israel, but the original model didn't work.