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TVI Express is the "New" thing on the web today to turn $250 to $10,000 in weeks. There are many pushing the Biz Opp, the make money fast plan all over the internet. I am sure you may have seen the spam’s and Facebook splats touting these claims. TVI Express a.k.a. Travel Ventures International is said to be based out of the U.K. which offers a buy in to a discount travel club.

What is really behind the company and the hype? TVI in my opinion has become some sort of cult following where good honest people are taken in and lured to the easy money and find that the exact opposite is true. The TV’Ites (as I call them) seems too blinded to the many unanswered questions that are raised when one goes to search out an MLM company. Thus, the reason I am writing this Hub.

I joined TVI. Yes, I fell into the trappings of the Jets, the Boats, the Cars, the Exotic Travel, and all that money as many have done. So I am speaking first hand of my investigation into TVI Express in hopes to help others find out the truth behind the company, the compensation plan, and the business model. Look, I bought into TVI. I am interested in multiple streams of income too. People just need to be warned that TVI is not all it is cracked up to be.

I hope you take the time to consider the folowing information. Maybe we can help others from gettng ripped off.

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When I first asked the question to my up line, I was told that so and so called TVI in the U.K. and verified that they were a legitimate company. Well, all I can say is a lot of people called a guy named Bernie Madoff and were told that everything was alright too!

Here are my notes on what I found out about TVI. I have been threatened that TVI will prosecute me for saying these things. Well I say, maybe we should all come to the bottom of who these people are. IF they are truly an International Conglomerate as they tout based in the U.K.. Many innocent would be victims might run for the hills if they just take the time and do the research BEFORE buying into the business model.

1. TVI Express allows Stacking.

Inside of a MLM community Stacking is not allowed by legitimate companies. There are several reasons for this, with the main reason being, the FTC uses it as a benchmark when they are looking to see where the majority of commissions are coming from. The FTC can use it, to show more income is made form filling additional positions, than there is moving products/services to the end user.

Here is a great definition of Stacking (Multiple Positions):

Stacking: “Enrolling more than one time into the same Direct Sales company, with additional Positions occurring in one’s own Personal Downline. Stacking can result in role confusion,because a Representative with Stacked Positions can hold Positions both upline to and downline from another Representative. Stacking usually results in earning multiple commissions on the same purchase and/or sale.” – Direct Sales An Overview – Keith B. Laggos, Ph.D., M.B.A., M.A., B.A. Copyright 1998.

Stacking is exactly what is promoted from their own promotional videos.

Troy Dooly’s MLM Help Desk, see what he has to say about stacking. Watch the second video and see how they promote stacking. --Click Here--

2. Where did TVI Headquarters go?

Check out the Rip off Report, they left the country and no one knows where they are. –Click Here--

This happened to me on all three calls. I continued my research and finally spoke to a company at the address they claim is their head office and, as I suspected, TVI had rented an executive suite from them for a while and then left. The manager of that facility said “they suddenly packed up their bags and disappeared”. They left a couple of months ago with no information about where they had gone like a forwarding address.

This is obviously a scam.

You cannot sign up with a credit card and have to wire the money to them or purchase vouchers you can then resell. The reason they cannot process credit cards is they don’t have a business address. They claim to operate a travel business in 50 countries but that is only because they cannot be caught. You need licenses to operate travel businesses (even in the US) and nowhere in their materials do they show any licensing information. As of today they are not contactable and my guess is they will turn up in some country where they cannot be prosecuted but it is clear, this is not a legitimate business.

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I did my own investigation and checked myself here are the web site for you to check

Here is a blog tread I found. I went to the website and searched for TVIExpress, Travel Ventures International were and are not official companies EVER registered in the U.K.

if you go to the website of the official British organization for the registry of companies ...

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/0a...essCompanyInfo

they show NO listing for "Travel Ventures International," either as an active company, or one "dissolved."

likewise, if you go to ...

http://www.192.com/businesses

they say, "We are sorry but no results matched your search - please check the spelling" ... but they do display 2 "Ads by Google" for TVI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVIGIRL, U won't find TVI express under any business listings b/c that is a dba name the parent company is TVI services ltd

well ... possibly we're making a little progress here, though most likely, this is only a continuation of the pattern of smoke & mirrors.

indeed, the links listed above show a "TVI Services, Ltd." ...

TVI SERVICES LTD
7 Petworth Road
Haslemere
Surrey
GU27 2JB

under "Financial Information," 192.com gives no information (such as "Company Registration Number") and under "Key Executives," they also show nothing.

Where did they go? Were they ever an official Inernational Conglorate Company based in the United Kingdom? Accord to this web site NO! Check for your self…

3. Too many questions. I cannot find answers, can you find them for me?

We can all jump on the messenger and say, “All he is trying to do is promote HIS deal, and he is just a well known fraud.” He has some axe to grind. No, I do not! Not at all, rather there has always been a question in my heart about the whole TVI deal.

All I know is that there are tooooo many questions about TVI that are have not been answered and SHOULD bring red flags to all who have been in MLM for any amount of time.

TVI is a front end load comp plan that cannot sustain itself.

Questions that cannot be answered by TVI or any of it distributors…

What more needs to be said. Why did they leave the U.K. in a hurry? Who are the leaders? Where is the money going?

1. Why a private registry of the TVIExpress.com URL.
2. No USA base of operation for U.S. support.
3. Lack of ownership disclosure or Corporate Officers on TVIExpress.com website.
4. SEC, FTC and State AGs have targeted MLM Online Travel Companies as MLM Scams.

5. They don’t have to worry about people coming by to visit. They have moved out of their offices in the UK. Left No forwarding address.
6. Their phone line can be answered from anywhere (Just ask one of the many MLM Wireless companies) London has several international Executive Services who act just like those in the USA.
7. To date not one TVI Express associate or corporate officer has come forward to say who the owners or corporate leaders are.
8. They want you to wire transfer money overseas, they do not offer Credit Card sign up as they do not have a legal business address.
9. TVI Express states “a part of TVI’s revenue is donated to UNICEF” When and How much? No one can answer….
10. They do not ask for a Social Number or a Tax ID so the proper documents can be filed with the IRS and appropriate taxes can be paid.

Refund Policy: TVI Express does NOT offer a refund once a member has joined. Disputes All members must comply with the rules of disputes, contacting directly the corporate company via the instruction on its individual Panel.

All Disputes are governed by Cyprus and India laws. So, they did move to either Cyprus or India. They are not based out of the U.K. anymore, I guess?

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4. Is TVI Express a Ponzi Scheme?

Here is a link to Ponzi Scheme Alert --Click Here-- for their take on TVI Express.

Major recruiters may find themselves at the top of the final matrix and earn some money; however, it will come at the cost of leading several other people into a program that will only leave them $250 poorer. As a responsible MLM leader or marketer, you should be recommending programs that are built to last for the long-term and structured in a legal, profitable way for all members. TVI Express does NOT pass the test!

Definition of a scam,

So, What is a Scam?

The DSA (Direct Selling Association) is an organization set up for the purpose of ensuring that member companies adhere to fair and ethical business principles and practices. Companies that operate pyramids are illegal and aren't allowed to be members of the DSA. The DSA states, "Pyramid schemes are illegal scams in which large numbers of people at the bottom of the pyramid pay money to a few people at the top. Each new participant pays for the chance to advance to the top and profit from payments of others who might join later. In other words, you buy in to the "business" and receive a spot at the bottom of the structure. Some of your money goes to the person at the top of the pyramid. If all the spots at the bottom fill up, the person at the top is paid a significant amount of money and his or her spot is removed. The second level becomes the top level and a new level is added at the bottom, larger than the one before (continuing to form a wide pyramid shape). If enough new people join and fill the spots, the people at the top make money and their spots are removed. This process continues. And huge numbers of people end up having to be recruited in order for lower level people to ever make money because the lower level keeps becoming bigger. The pyramid usually collapses, or is closed down, before this happens and many people lose money. That's why it's a scam.

This is exactly what TVI is and does…Again, I’m open, and I celebrate the success of those who are making money. My concern is there are those who will get involved and not have the same opportunity to earn this money, because the deck is stacked against them, and/or the compensation plan will collapse because it is truly built on smoke and mirrors.

5. Just another Ponzi Cycler?

Here’s what Broker Jones Word Press says --Click Here--

Summary; I took a long hard look at TVI Express and found it to be yet another bottomless Ponzi Cycler.But first, let me tell you something about “cyclers”.

A. They are illegal. Because nobody is going to pay $250 straight up for the products without any “promise/hype” of compensation.

B. They ALWAYS, run dry and there’s always a giant number of people on the bottom who never cycle and never make their original $250 back. (I have been sitting in the Traveler board for over a month in the same position and have not moved) 

C. There are always a few very LOUD cheerleaders at the top who tell you all about the $20,000 they just made, so they can lure you in….so that you can help THEM cycle again..

6. How many more Red Flags do you need?

Source –Click Here—

Advancement in a hierarchy of multiple levels of "distributors" is achieved by recruitment, rather than by appointment.

Ask: "Does a 'participating distributor' advance his/her position (and potential income) in a hierarchy of multiple levels of 'distributors' under him/her, who in turn advance by recruiting "distributors" under them, etc.?" the result is self-appointment through recruitment to ascending payout levels in the distributor hierarchy. If the only way a person can profit significantly in the scheme is through recruiting to advance to higher payout levels (or to buy another’s down line), this strongly suggests a pyramid scheme.

TVI is a Recruiting MLM, Recruiters, recruiting recruiters,

A “recruiting MLM” is a multi-level (or network) marketing system that depends upon recruitment of new distributors to replace a continuously collapsing base of new participants in a pyramid of recruits. As such, it constitutes an endless chain of participants in a phony business opportunity, who purchase (or subscribe to) products (usually highly touted potions and lotions) to "play the game". It is a pseudo-business with no significant customer base and is dependent on a large network of distributors, approximately 99% of whom lose money from investing in products and services (including “success tools”) offered by the sponsoring MLM Company. The extremely high loss rate and aggregate losses make recruiting MLM’s, or product-based pyramid schemes, the worst of all types of pyramid schemes.

Here is a good description of TVI

Recruiting MLMs require extensive recruiting before realizing actual profits above expenses. Retailing is not significant, as the compensation plan does not provide sufficient rewards to make sales to actual customers worthwhile. Also, prices for MLM products are not competitive with standard retail outlets, since they must support payment sot a huge downline of "middleman distributors" – who are the primary customers. So the sellers are the buyers, and the buyers are the sellers – to themselves and their families.

"Incentivized purchases" are purchases of goods and services from the MLM company that are tied to qualification to participate in commissions or to advance through ascending levels in the distributor hierarchy. If they constitute a required cost of participating in the "business opportunity," then whether they are used, sold, given away, or stored is irrelevant – they should be considered a cost of doing business.

TVI is a Recruiting MLM…

Conclusion

Yes, some people are getting paid. That’s why I think there is so much resistance to for people to really take an HONEST look and ask the real tough questions. How long will this last? How long have they been in the US? They are just starting out here so there are people on the top making money. In my opinion TVI cannot sustain itself long term and will implode. Just another in a long line of travel MLM Ponzi's?

Leading people astray it not a business model I want to be a part of. I know none of you do either. I would rather be carful and preserve my reputation and integrity than to offer people a business opportunity that is full of questions that have not been answered.

There is no way a new distributor gets paid upfront. There is no residual income unless you are recruiter or work a team. The normal person will recruit 2.7 people in any MLM. There is nothing sold retail. The company’s own video encourages stacking, (ie. buying multiple positions). The company is overseas (somewhere) and does not fall under U.S. law. No one asks for a Social Security Number or a Business Tax ID when enrolling. People are sold the opportunity to turn $250 into $10,000 in 90 days. This is everywhere and is not truthful to the average person. People are being sold a bill of goods.

Please do not put all your time, effort, and energy into something that may not last and may not be legitimate. There may be some who make money in the early stages because it is new here in the US, but, is it worth it at the expense of real people needing financial help in this economy? How many dreams dashed?

You maybe upset at me for all this but I have done my part and hope you really take the time to investigate TVI. I am sure that there are good and honest people working TVI and good and honest people looking to make extra money in these tough econmonic times. Just do not want to see people get ripped off.

Please click here if you have any answers to any of the above questions. I would be glad to be wrong and whould like to extract any statment that may not be true.

Please prove any of this wrong --Click Here-- to email me and I will correct anything I need to correct.

MLM-Trucker - Scott