The Confused Ramblings of a Born Again Liberal!

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By blangrehr


Twins: The third Clinton term!  Yea baby!
Twins: The third Clinton term! Yea baby!

Just like the President Elect. Well except for Harvard.

 

 

I'm forty five years old and have spent many of those years in school. I have a passion for learning new things about different stuff. That's one of the reason Hubpages is such a find. I'm very new to blogs, and publishing written word on-line and consequently I'm having to look-up much of the casual jargon used by the more experienced and accomplished posters. On the other hand there is such a plethora of topics and experts to learn from. I've become addicted, again. In my world becoming addicted is routine with a continuous cycle of recovery. Of course some things are more alarming to family and loved ones than, say other more practical acquired addictions.

For most of my life, politics has been fun, something I enjoy reading about and discussing with friends. In the early days of my intellectual development when in my arrogance I considered myself an expert on the social dynamics and cultural relationships of the early eighties, I would write long, self absorbed essays detailing the political and humanitarian injustices rampant in American society. I was having a wonderful time as a twenty year-old junior at a prestigious southern liberal arts college. I was able to be a part of this esteem environment because I was a descent football and baseball player and much to my continued amazement they let me go to school for free. The proverbial, going from a big fish in a little pond, to a little fish in a big pond, quickly taught me the mediocre limits of my athletic powers. For four years I was terrified the powers that be were going to tap me on the shoulder; apologize for their obvious mistake and send me packing. To make up for my average athletic and intellectual abilities, I worked very hard. I became enamored with Sociology, history and political science. I fantasize myself the savior of the common man, a senator or better yet, the power behind a presidential candidate. Of course studying Sociology my first heroes were theorist such has August Comte, Emile Durkheim, and even Alfred Adler. Obviously I was, and considered myself a liberal, bound and determine to assist the working man. The college I attended was a wealthy and elite institution, as you can imagine we did not have a young democrat society. This school, at this time was staffed with the liberal educational elite but funded by and attended by conservative traditionalist, old money, the wealthy southern hierarchy from years gone by.

After college, I decided to teach while most of my friends went to work for fathers or uncles for lots of money and other perks such as travel and expense accounts. The first six months out of school, I spent my evenings grading papers and figuring a budget to survive. Teachers in the south in the mid eighties didn't make very much money. We held our heads high with egos intact and soothed each other with the mantra, "this is a higher calling, and we don't do this for the money". I believed it and lived it, until I visited a friend from college for the weekend at his home on an island off the coast of South Carolina. That weekend changed my early life. I was offered a job that weekend and fifteen days later I was in a training program in San Antonio Texas. I was making more money than anyone in my family had ever made. I lived in a first class hotel on the River Walk; I had an expense account and a company car. Man that was a great car. It turns out I was pretty good at what I was hired to do. The next five years flew by in a whirlwind of planes and hotels and meetings. The only time I thought about the "working man" was when I had to fire one, or had to stop the local Union from moving into the business.

Then I meet the girl, we lived together and talked about marriage. I meet my wife in a bar outside of Washington DC in a placed called Crystal City. I was having dinner with friends in a place owned by Joe Theisman, and she was having dinner with some guy. Long story short, I won and we have been together for twenty four years. I'm sure during my single years I vote in a national election. I have never, not voted, as I never really lost my enjoyment of politics, I just enjoy money, cars and expense accounts more. I am also very sure I voted democrat; I would not have done anything else at the time. At some point my wonderful wife and I decided we wanted a family and Washington DC was not a place to raise kids so back south we went.

It was years later, after I had become a father and been a husband for years that my political affiliations slowly began to change. It was during a very difficult time in my life and an even harder time for my family; recovering from addiction is always harder on the family, I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior. It didn't take very many hours of Bible study for me to decide that I could no longer be a liberal democrat. The problem was that I couldn't get past my fundamental belief in helping my fellow man. Those parts of our society that for whatever reason can't or even won't help themselves, Maybe it was because of my addiction, the things I had thrown away, or because I had been in and around treatment programs. I have seen the despair and hopelessness in our society. It turned out there was an easy solution, I quit my high paying job, went back to school, I got good and trained up, and went to work in the trenches. I suppose fiscally, I may still be a liberal at least where spending for social programs are concerned. It's truly the social area of liberalism that makes it impossible to believe in God, and the Bible, and the secular progressive ideas of the left. There's too much effort to remove our Savior from everyday life. There's too much effort to remove morality from our families and our culture. When we discuss the breakdown of the family, it is because of the break down in morality. I do not believe our founding fathers wanted God taken out of our society, when they, or future generations, were discussing the separation of church and state. The left wants to replace the concept of right and wrong with the term rule of law when in reality the very principles of western law originates in Judeo-Christian teachings, or more precisely, the Bible.

Why is it so important for the love and influence of Christ to be prohibited from our political conscientious? Moral decisions from elected leadership based on; love thy neighbor as thy self; would there not be less violence and war? Why must we allow the destruction of our precious children? The reason we give is that a woman should have the right to choose; but does a woman have the right to choose to cause herself great bodily harm? Does a woman have the right to choose to kill herself? Does a woman have the right to choose to ingest, for recreation, controlled substances? There is so much we don't have the right to do. And that's the way it should be. Shouldn't the good of the child be more important than the good of the parent? Who will stand for the child? Jesus came for the sinners and the unholy. There is no sin in the sight of Christ that cannot be forgiven by the Father through the Son.

Spirituality, religion and faith all have a prominent place in our culture, our nation and our government. Is it a decision between liberal and conservative, or is it really a choice between good and bad, right and wrong, just and unjust, American and un-American? The predominant ideologies fighting each other in our country are passé' and restricting. Extremist on both sides fill civilized debated with hatred and hurt. But with the unbearable screech of their terrible voice, they control policy and public opinion. Our leaders and our electorate fear the use of compassion and common sense. Praying for wisdom, patient and understanding is decried from fanatics on both sides. We see evil and delusion in the shadows of all political discourse. But can a consensus of educated Americans ever elect a truly malevolent Chief Executive?

Not as long as we have faith in God!

 

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

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JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Good post and you speak from your heart. Only problem I have is that you seem to be all over the place. You claim that your love for your religion does not allow you to be a democrat yet you say that you adhere to the policies of socialism (helping your fellow man). You can't have it both ways.

If you use your religion to benefit you then more power to you but voting for a party or candidate because of their religion or religious views is just plain moronic... the kind of stuff that keeps the middle east in the middle ages!

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

I’m sorry if I was confusing, I used to be a socialist in that the Democratic Party is a socialist lead and leaning organization. I used to be a Democrat; then I grew up and accepted the truth of Jesus Christ. I certainly don’t vote for a candidate based on their personal religious beliefs. That is one of the basic constitutional rights grated to all Americans. I do however vote for a candidate based on important issues, both moral and political that we face as a country and how said candidate views those issues. Consequently, I cannot vote with a party or a candidate that supports the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent human beings. Forget, for a moment the religious or moral implications of abortion for a moment, its barbaric, uncivilized and wrong. I. of course, may still be a moron, but I do feel strongly that traditional moral values are an important part of what has made this country great and that many of our present problems come directly from so called “ progressive or liberal ideology. Helping my fellow man, is not socialism, and it is very moronic to insinuate that it is; helping your fellow man is a Christian, American and right thing to do.

JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Sorry but Christians and Americans are not the only ones who help their fellow man. And this may surprise you.... but there are non-Christian American's who are good people and also help their fellow man.... don't gasp too loudly because you find this to be shocking.

By the way... you claim you cannot support a party that "supports the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent human beings." hmmm.... how about the innocent human beings in Iraq? Or are they not human because they don't share your religious views? No I am not talking about the animal like terrorists but rather the Joe Schmoe Iraqi guy just trying to make a living and raise his family... I suppose its ok to bomb him because he isn't a Christian right?

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

Of course many non-Christians are good human beings and of course many non-Christians dedicate their lives to helping their fellow beings. I was indicating why I, have chosen to spend my life in service. My religious belief is about love, not judgment; you obviously dislike Christians; that does not affect me adversely at all. I as a Christian and as a human do not dislike you. Now, to answer your question concerning Iraq, yes I support the war and our brave men and women fighting on foreign soil to preserve the freedom and security of our nation. Most of the innocent victims of the tragedy that is war in Iraq are being killed by radical Islamic insurgents, not by American soldiers. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and a lie. There are thousands and thousands of innocent Iraq’s being killed and the culprit is the very terrorist animals you would prefer to keep out of the conversation. It is hard for me to understand that any person would seriously compare the legalized brutal slaughter of babies to unintended casualties in war. Certainly mistakes are made in War and sadly innocent people die; I do pray for those people, just as I pray for the love ones and souls of the thousands of innocent Iraq’s murdered by Saddam. Over forty million American babies have been put to death in this country since the travesty Roe verses Wade decision. Many times the number of innocent deaths caused by radical Islamic insurgents in Iraq, many, many times the number of terrible accidents caused by American troops in Iraq. There is no sane comparison between the two issues.

JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Blangrehr,

First of all I don't dislike Christians, Muslims, Aethists, or anyone. I dislike people who try and force their religion onto others (be that personally or through politics). I don't care if the person is a Christian or a Muslim or Buddhist... if you try and put your religion into my country's beloved constitution then I have a beef with you.

As for Abortion.... I don't support it but the laws of our country say it is to be allowed. If and when that changes I will support that as well. The difference between the murders caused by abortion and the murders caused by the invasion of Iraq are pretty large.... one is justified under our current law and the other is not justified under any law (international or domestic).

We had no business going into Iraq. I could care less if Saddam Hussein is a bad guy.... we can't go into every country run by bad leaders. We are killing our own soldiers every day to fight a battle that was unwanted and unjust.... only for the sake of Saudi Arabia.

Did you know that Saudi Arabia had a beef with Saddam Hussein because he ran the only country that was different to their brand of Islam? So tell me if G.W. did not have some influence from his Saudi friends (who have stayed in his own personal home!).

You and I both know that these terrorist animals are subhuman beasts... they kill innocent civilians (be they Christian, Muslim, Hindu or whatever) without any feeling or remorse. Sadam Hussein may have been a ruthless bastard but he was at least able to control these animals so that the average Iraqi could live in relative peace.

I feel pity on the poor Iraqis struggling to survive fighting the terrorist murderers on the one hand and the U.S. accidental killings on the other. Imagine if you were living in that mess. The worst part of it all is that our leader G.W. misled us into the war and has created the situation that his killed our own soldiers and innocent Iraqis as well.

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

What is really sad is that you support the destruction of 40 million innocent babies. Un-constitutionally mandated by radical jurist governing from the high bench; there is no utterance in the beloved Constitution that gives power to the high court to create law. War has been engaged against Iraq by a multi-national group of countries. Bush Derangement Syndrome is a terrible disability; until you get help; political debate is pointless. He can’t run again, he was elected by a majority of the American population twice. Get over it; your Messiah will now have the opportunity to prove that socialism works. And unlike you, I will support the next President of The United States of America. I will not vote for Barack Obama, but if he wins, I will pray for him daily and I will support him as well as I can. I will not attack him personally nor will I blame all the evil in the world on him. In four years we will chose again.

The beloved constitution is trampled daily on both sides of the isle. Spare me the self righteous indignation; ant-Christianity seeps dripping from every post and response you make, but relax we are certainly use to prosecution.

JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Blangrehr,

Bush Derangement Syndrome is about as bad Abortion Rights Derangement Syndrome whereby you run your entire life and your political life based on one issue and one alone... that is abortion.

Why is it that no other president has a derangement syndrome? Many people hated Carter, Nixon, even Clinton.... yet no derangement syndrome. The only poor guy who needs a syndrome named after him happens to be the one with the LOWEST approval ratings of all time. What a coinicidence right?

Sorry you can try and justify G.W. Bush's policies all you want but the majority of American's will not. By the way... you seem to state that you will support Obama if he becomes president... are you serious about that? Or are you one of those supporters who will wave your flag upside down like all the fanatics did during Clinton's presidency?

And just so you know... I happened to be in a foreign country during our initial invasion of Iraq. Many people (knowing I was an American) came to "discuss" why America would invade Iraq. Though I made no friendships, I supported G.W. and our Country's actions thinking that our President must have had some secret knowledge. I blindly defended my country and its actions thinking that we would never do something evil like overthrow a country and kill innocents unless it was necessary.

Of course years later I realized that I was wrong and our invasion had nothing at all to do with terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, or teaching a lesson to Muslim aggressors.

And just so you know... if Obama turns out to be another terrible president then I will be among the first to write hubs pointing out his hypocracy and failures. Would you do the same for McCain and Paulin if they turn out horrible? Or will you try and start crying about McCain Derangment Syndrome or Paulin "haters?"

Also...do you support McCain's choice of Paulin knowing full well the corruption scandals she is involved with? Do you support her personal and her family's values? Sorry I don't. I think people like her are the problem in our society because they preach hard core conservatism even though their own personal choices and parenting are sickening. Her actions speak a lot louder than her phony words.

As for me being anti Christian.... you try very hard to find a label for me. First I have BDS then I am a baby killer and now I am anti-Chrtistian. Sorry I don't need to resort to labels or name calling. I am simply putting out issues and of course you try and silence and ignore me by labelling me. Just so you know, I am anti abortion (thought that is a personal not a political choice), I am anti-corruption, pro-guns (hand guns not military weapons), and I have had an American flag proudly on my cars since 1991. Care to question my American "credentials" any further?

In case I was not clear in my earlier posts or responses... I am not Anti-Christian, or Anti-Muslim, or Anti-Gay, or Anti-Aiethist. I simply believe our forefathers were correct in separting church and state and despise people who try and make my beloved country into a theocracy.

I also dislike those who pander to religion and religious groups to try and gain votes because I do not want our country to become another Iran where we run based on religion and not the principles of freedom and doing what is right for all.

Have a good day.

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

You just attacked Sarah Palin and her parenting, you would be much happier if she would have disowned her grown daughter for making personal choices. Sounds very hypocritical if you ask me, and since this is my hub you kind of did ask me. You can pretend to be anything you wish, but you are simply a far left, Anti-American pushing a socialist candidate and socialist ideals on this country. That is your right, that is what makes this country great. I have never said this country should mandate a religion. I agree there should be a divide between Church and state. That does not mean a Christian should be banned from being VP, or POTUS for that matter. When you attack a person based on their faith then you are being Ant-American, if that label bothers you then…so what. You continue to dismiss Governor Palin because she is pro-life and believes in God, you criticize her because she prays to God; What about JFK and many others that where Christians? Your simplistic and juvenile attempts to moderate your radical political agenda is a joke, and please, don’t miss-understand Mr. Doe, I’m not questioning your American bonifieds, I’m questioning both your sanity and sincerity. And yes, I voted for and supported Bill Clinton, he was a good president. In fact I didn’t vote for Bill to be a great husband or father, I voted for him for POTUS, which I thought he did well. By and By, I disagree with Senator Obama on many other issues besides abortion, all of them in fact. His stance on abortion just clearly illustrate that he is true evil as well as a socialist politically.

I will continue to pray for you,

Have a blessed day

JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Blangrher,

I attacked Sarah Paulin for being a hypocrite not for being a Christian. In case you did not realize it, Obama is also a Christian, Biden is a Christian, even McCain is a Christian but I do not attack them in the same way. So once again please save your labels for yourself... just because you want to peg me into your antichristian or "hater" category does not mean that you will be able to do it.

Actually that is the problem with your type of thinking.... rather than trying to learn from others or even question to educate yourself you just dismiss everything that you don't agree with (or that Limbaugh does not tell you to believe) and you try and label people to make them worthy of your dislike and hate.

Sorry let me tell you again because you don't speak for me.. I am not an antichristian nor do I attack Paulin for her faith. I attack her because she has is a corrupt individual.... again why don't you want to discuss her corruption scandals? I attack her for politically preaching against sex education when her own family shows the results of what happens when parents are too busy to PARENT their children and no one is there to talk to confused children about sex.

Again why don't you discuss why it is that her daughter is pregnant in this day and age while teenage pregnancy has reached a 30 year low. Is that too bitter a pill for you to swallow?

Or is that you want to just label my questions as antichristian again so you can get out of thinking about these things?

By the way... thank you for your prayers. I really do appreciate it and I will do the same for you. No matter how much you may disbelieve, we are not all that different, maybe God will one day help you to realize this. Take care.

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

The main reason I don’t discuss the plethora of fabricated controversies you continue to parrot from the mass emails sent out by the Obama campaign, is that I have investigated all the “gates” and found them ludicrous lies. I also applaud the unconditional love given to Bristol Palin by her mother and family. That’s what true Christians do; we understand our imperfection and celebrate God’s perfect gifts in our lives. Even if those gifts are beautiful children born with the challenges of Downs or an unplanned but very cherished pregnancy. It is typical of the elitist liberal mind set to judge your values on others and condemn those actions as wrong or bad. Mistakes in judgment, or differing opinions don’t strangle a Christians love and respect for our fellow man. We leave that bitter disregard for our brothers and sisters on the left; you know those people who hate God to rationalize moral ambiguity. We believe that there are indeed true rights and true wrongs, there is indeed a very real battle between good and evil. We believe in the traditional creator granted freedoms outline by our founding fathers while constructing our founding documents. Your secular messiah wants to take away those freedoms. By the way, it’s a stretch to call “Black Liberation Theology” Christian, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and agree that BLT relates to Christianity, as radical Islamic terrorist relate to Islam. So okay, Barack is a …BLT Christian.

I am very different than you, I believe in God and love my fellow man, you hate all that thinks different than you do.

Joedoe  says:
15 months ago

Blangy,

Don't speak for me... speak only for yourself. If you have to resort to telling what I believe and not your own beliefs then it shows how deluded you are. First you label me as anti-American, then BDS, then a socialist, the list is endless. Keep your Limbaugh dictionary open so you can find more labels because I refuse to stop thinking and being a thorn in the side of corrupt individuals like Paulin.

"Brittany" Palin made a mistake. No doubt. Is it a fabrication that her Mom doesn't support sex education? Do you not see the hypocracy in that? Or are you going to run and hide behind Paulin's bible?

Is it a fabrication that one of her cabinet members was recorded in phone conversations asking why her ex brother in law was still holding a job? Do you believe these tapes were made up? Tell me how this is a fabrication when even Paulin has admitted that she can see how this looks scandalous.

Was it also a fabrication that Paulin used public email for government business? Or do you believe it is ok to go around our governments rules that are designed to prevent corruption? I am sure if Bill Clinton did this you would have had an orgasm right?

Hey listen if you want to preach and pray away Paulins hypocracy and lies go ahead and do so, but don't think that everyone is going to hide behind their religion like you do.

I don't care if Palin is a Christian... she is a hypocrite and that is what matters. I don't care if Paulin's daughter fornicates, Paulin tries to dictate public sex education policy and that is why it is relevant.

I also don't care if Paulin is corrupt and is involved in numerous cases of cronyism and favortism... but don't think I will give her a vote for public office if she CHOOSES to have a lack of morals in politics.

I know you won't discuss any issues because all you care about is that she is White and that she wears her Christianity as a badge. Really sad that you can be fooled like this. Too bad America is being reduced to your type of thinking... maybe that is why we are falling behind rather than maintaining our global superiority.

And finally... I also forgive Paulin for her hypocracy and her lies and her lack of parenting and supervision of her children. Just because you and I forgive her as Christians why does that indicate to you that she is going to do any better when she is Vice president of our beloved country?

You know honestly McCain was a pretty strong competetor against Obama... at least in terms of political issues and stands. McCain actually uses his head to think about issues and doesn't lean too far left or right... but the thought of Paulin and her bulldog lipstick and corruption being a heartbeat away from the White House absolutely scares me.

8 years of Bush's corruption have put our country into the gutter. Can you imagine even 1 year under Paulin? God save us if such a tragedy ever befalls the United States of America.

Now go back to your Limbaugh Dictionary and find more labels you can give to me.

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

All you have to debate with is made up radical leftwing talking points. All you do is debase Limbaugh while talking to me. It would be sad if not so much like what happens every time the left has to talk about anything but hate. You will notice that all comments to any of my articles get okayed, the reason is simple, the disdain and contempt the left holds for average Americans come leaping off the page every time you folk ignore real issues and spread socialist propaganda. Your hate for Governor Palin is obvious and despite your screeching denials, it has nothing to do with issues or Governing. She has an eighty present approval rating in the state that elected her. Of course she has people who dislike her; when corruption is exposed people get in trouble and get their feelings hurt. America loves her because she is real, unlike the George Soros creation that is the Democratic nominee for President. Anytime issues have to be address the left crumples. You guys can’t tell the truth, because the truth is most don’t know what they believe and the elitists running the party are socialist and communist and they know America won’t buy that. So they hate, and destroy and personally attack; anything to keep from talking about real, serious issues. Feel threaten, lash out and attack the kids, denounce the faith, rewrite the history; anything to win..good luck with fooling America, we’ll wait and see how that works for you.

Limbaugh dictionary, lol, lol, wow.

JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Blangrher,

Okie dokie... I see you have no comments about Sarah Paulin's corruption and the facts about her history, hypocracy, and cronyism.

Thanks for the new label... elitist, faith denouncer, kid lasher outer... come on you can do better and think up some more can't you?

Anyway don't worry you don't bother me. Your blind love for Paulin is exactly the kind of idiotic right wing nonesense that got GW into office. Remeber back then when you were blindly defending him... don't deny it.

Anyway good luck to you. Since since you refuse to talk issues and only about your blind love there is no point to discuss with you. To some extent I kind of hope Paulin and company come into the white house so it just buries us deeper into the hole that GW has dug so far. That way morons with your type of non-issue, nonsense preaching will be scratching their heads trying to figure out why your beloved Paulin and crew took our country deeper into the gutter than GW Bush. Maybe then you will learn the importance of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

Good luck to you and God bless.

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

Thanks, I need all the well wishes I can get. Liberal lies might work this time, if so and if this country survives we get to decide again in four years. At least you abandoned the whole “Limbaugh dictionary” thing, of course you’re still trying that Obama campaign attack the person because to talk about real leadership and serious issues would be disastrous for Barack Hussein Obama. You know stuff like voting present 140 times, or Tony Rezko, William Aires and yes the good Reverend. You want real corruption investigate your Messiah. Please…reality is tough, I know, it’s got to be hard to hate another person so much you will forgo any resemblance of truth or common sense. The very obvious fact that Obama wants to destroy the constitution, especially in the areas of gun control and a redistribution of wealth or the government takeover of private industry; which is the very definition of socialism, should really matter; but the personal hate is just too strong, you and those like you just can’t get past the hatred of Bush. Don’t worry his bank, Freddie and Fannie are gone but he still has George, Barack has raised 400 million dollars in this election, I guess only part of America is really having tough times. Issues are easy mostly because your Messiah has nothing to point to and say look, this is what I have accomplished. Issues are easy because Barack is wrong on all of them and cares more about his personal destiny than he does about serving this country. You want to talk about made-up controversy but you and the MSM (obama propaganda machine) have ignored real serious stuff…goodbye Joe and good luck.

JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Hey Blanghy,

Sorry my friend... its not my hate for Paulin that is the problem... but rather your blind love for her.  The problem is people like you vote for a religion not a candidate.  You ignore her corruption her personal failures and her lack of experience then you try and label all the people who point these things out as being elitists or socialists.  My gosh do you live in the 50's still?  You think labelling me as a commie or socialist elitist is going to make my ranting any less pointed?

Why don't you want to talk about the issues instead of just calling me names? 

Sorry but your lack of education shows (you already labelled me as an elitist so I guess I should act like one and question your intelligence).

Instead of wishing away problems like you do why don't you think about the issues and the problems of Paulin.  Ohh wait... she is a white, Christian, who professes her love of ignorance so you can forgive her for all her problems right?

No one is saying that Obama is perfect (believe me he is far from it) but honestly McCain and Paulin make Obama the only real choice for people who care about the issues.  For people like you that ignore America's problems McPaulin is the perfect choice.

Ohh and you keep making up lies about obama wanting to ban guns and raise taxes... don't you use your ears once in a while?  Or are they reserved for the teachings of Rush Limbaugh only?  Listen to what OBAMA has to say about the issues and where he stands... not your beloved Limbaugh and his cronies. I may be an elitist, socialist, commie bastard (in your eyes not mine) but at least I have enough common sense to listen to BOTH candidates and learn about their stands on the issues from their OWN speeches.

 Also, since you keep bringing up Bush (seems like you have an obsession with your derangement syndrome) care to explain why he needs to spend all the money bailing out private companies that failed?  Isn't that socialism??  Ohh wait sorry... I forgot... your only issue is abortion and you only vote based on religion so you don't want to talk about issues. 

And finally... just so you know... if old McPaulin gets in the White House I will be the first to celebrate.  The reason for this is that I know he is going to carry on the moronic principles of Bush and 4 more years of failed policies will ruin our country  to the point that even non elitist, non socialist, pro machine gun, bible thumping hypocrites like yourself  won't be able to hide behind name calling and burying your head in the sand... then again the last 8 years has not taught you a thing so maybe nothing ever will!

Good luck to you and see you in 4 years. 

 

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

I’m bored with your continued dependence on personal attacks. My entire last post was about the issues. I respect Sarah Palin, much as I respect Hilary Clinton or many other Americans from both sides of the isle. I do not respect people that hate America or try to intimidate discussion with name calling and disrespect. I most certainly have examined Barack Hussein Obama and his positions (this week) on gun control. You relentlessly belittle anyone that disagrees with you…me, Limbaugh, Palin, McCain, in fact is seems everybody but you and Barack are simply misguided morons. I’m okay with that brother. Your hatred defines the truth of my beliefs; people like me; regular people, scare you; we scare the radicals that wish for destruction of our great country. Eight years of G. W. Bush have been bad, not as bad as four years of Carter; and four years of Obama will be even worse.

For eighteen months the MSM (the obama propaganda machine) has refused to ask the Messiah any relevant question concerning his past, present or future. He has been allowed to walk and talk without any pressure to fill in the holes in his questionable associations and decisions. Any tough questions or criticisms have been called racist or attacked by his lawyers in an attempt intimidate any opposition. The fawning radical liberal media decided two years ago who was going to be the next president of the USA. Now, Mrs. Palin is a Christian Conservative and cannot be allowed under any circumstance, to be the first female in the Oval Office. That right belongs and deserves to be the sole honor of a liberal democrat. The media will stop at nothing to destroy Sarah Palin, they will lie, cheat, steal even attack children to force her off the ticket. It’s not issues or experience in regards to our various candidates; it is quite frankly about power and the elite medias desire to keep it’s strangle hold on the important decisions in this country. Believe nothing you read, there are no ethics left in news reporting.

You call me stuck in the fifties and yet you parrot decade old socialist propaganda. It’s really people like you, people brainwashed into believing Obama is God.

JoeDoe  says:
15 months ago

Blanghrer,

Thanks for the new label.... now I am also a socialist propogandist and an "Obama is God" believer. Keep those labels coming it only adds to the level of educated conversation right?

I belittle Paulin because she is a moron who claims her international experience is based on her ability to see Russia from Alaska (her words on the Katy Courich (sp?) show not mine). If Obama or Biden made such a stupid comment you would be pulling your hair out but since your beloved Paulin made it you jump for joy like a lunatic.

I belittle McCain for supporting George W. Bush over 90% of the time (again these are McCains words not mine). Sorry but I am not voting for anyone who will destroy my beloved country the same way as Bush has! If he supported Bush over 90% of the time then he is just as much a maniac as GW is!

Call it BDS or whatever label you want but McCain is a dangerous old man that is going to ruin our country even more than Bush already has... that is of course if he doesn't get hospitalized by the stress first and let his Airhead Paulin take charge... God help us if she ever gets in charge!!

Now please go back and think up some more labels for me.

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blangrehr  says:
15 months ago

The President of this country doesn't vote on anything that happens in Congress. A lie is still a lie even if it's John McCain telling it. Bidin has been showing his lack of a solid grasp on reality for thirty years and you haven't heard or seen me disrespect him at all. Obama has proven time and again that he is a racist socialist that hates this country. Have you not read his books? Have you not listened to his speeches? Sarah Palin has never said she wants to force her beliefs on anybody...and you know it. Show it to me...anywhere that it has been proved that she banned any books...show it to me...Point me to any proof that Sarah Palin has abused power...show it to me. You make things up and you riducule based on hate. Please just google gafe and Biden...just make sure you have lots of time because there are hundreds. I have not mentioned that fact...ever, until today. I dislike Obama for one reason, well two actually...he hates my country and my white follow country men and women. That's one; he wants to destry my country through a redistribution of wealth, by raising taxes on everybody and taking control of the majority (if not all) of private industry in this country. Example: healthcare and energy. thats two. There are many other things that he believes and are dangerous to prosperity and freedom but you don't care about any of that. What you seem to keep forgeting Bush is finished, he can't be POTUS anymore.

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ColdWarBaby  says:
15 months ago

Too much hostility here for me.

One thing though.  To even imagine, let alone state, that the demopublicans are even remotely socialist in any way is probably one of the funniest things I’ve heard in years.

Socialism is NOT inherently bad. Capitalism, on the other hand, rewards evil, greed, lust for power, avarice, deception and ruthless disregard for the wellbeing of humanity.

The amerikan government practices capitalism and socialism simultaneously.  It will simply socialize the costs of its greed and avarice onto the public, and privatize the profits to the criminals who, intentionally, brought about the disaster in the first place.

Both parties are equally to blame as is much of the population, past and present, for allowing this criminal enterprise to go unchallenged for so many decades.

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John Juneau  says:
13 months ago

Well, after a lot of forth and back mostly from just two of you, I will drop in a few thoughts.

I will dispense with Iraq first. We have done so much good since liberating Iraq that the kind of criticism leveled by Joe is ludicrous. Without our action which deposed Saddam, many, many innocents would have died or suffered greatly, as was the case for many years previous to our intervention. During a war, there are civilian casualties; unfortunate but also unavoidable. In the case of Iraq, these have been few compared to what would have continued to happen under Saddam's rule. And even with a war going on, it has been safer to be a civilian in many Iraq cities than in Washington, DC, New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, etc.

Next, religion and our government. I did not read anything here that sounded like someone was forcing Christianity on you. However, that Christian principals are a large part of the basis on which the USA was established is clear. No, Christianity as a "religion" is not in our Constitution, but Christian principals are, and they are tried and true principals that are worthy of guiding a nation. Unfortunately, much of what is in the Constitution is simply ignored by many of today's top government leaders, especially the current Democratic party leaders.

Finally, in terms of our economic system, a free market economy (capitalism) works very well. While there are sometimes (for a period of time) incidents where greedy people will take advantage of the system, overall there has never been any other economic system that works nearly so well. It works because people are rewarded for being productive, inventive, and responsible. It actually helps to check evil and greed most of the time. Our current economic difficulties are a direct result of government interferring with the free market. We have moved significantly toward socialism over the past 70 years, but it has been minimal compared to what the current Democratic party leaders are now calling for. Over the next few years we will likely see more punishment of those who are productive and successful, and less and less incentive for the deadbeats to become productive members of society.

I wish this was not true. I pray that we can avoid it, but, like Rome, it appears that we have started on a course that leads only downward.

Finally I must say that being a Christian is not having a religion; it is having a relationship (with God through Christ). No one can be forced to become a Christian, but everyone is invited to do so. It is the way God has given us to have the relationship with Him that we were all created to have.

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