The Most Effective Martial Art
88Most Effective Martial art?
What is today's most effective martial art to use in real life?
Would it be aikido, brazilian jiu-jitsu, muay thai or another form of martial arts?
Aikido is seen as the ultimate grappling martial art for self defence purposes as long as one finds a good dojo. A lot of criticism has gone into the fact that aikido is not taught the way it was to and that a lot of it's effectiveness has gone astray due to this lack of experience in the art. Aikido also takes a relatively long time to develop. It might look easy but when it comes to applying the technique taught..it's a whole new game. After mastering the art a bit though..between 2-4 years one can really start to see results of hard work. Aikido has no attacks and contains only defensive techniques. It is a system of fighting developed for a multiple opponent atmosphere...compliments of O-Sensei
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a grappling art designed and developed by the famous Gracie brothers. This method of fighting is proven for it's effectiveness everyday. It is therefore seen as one of the most effective martial arts in an one-on-one match. The problem is also that though, since it losses somewhat of it's effectiveness when the opponents are more then one.
Muay Thai is a fighting form developed in Thailand and although it cannot, in the real sense, be put into the kickboxing category, it is probably the best description. Muay Thai focus only on striking and kicking. What makes this art so exceptionaly effective though is it's use of elbows and knees. Muay Thai fighters are seen as the toughest fighters in the world, being able to take a powerhouse beating and not even showing any signs of going down. The combination of these elements makes it a deadly art if used correctly. Muay Thai has some weaknesses aswell though. Since it has no advanced form of grappling, fighting against an experienced grappler might be a bit of a problem
Then there is the Fear No Man:Fear No Man type martial arts that is apparently "UNBEATABLE". If you have a sense of humour go check out their site. The link is a google ad.
Which form is however the most effective?
Although all these arts are effective, each has their own weaknesses, therefore my advice is to combine them into a mixed martial art, cancelling out the weaknesses to form the ultimate art. Specializing in ground, grappling as also striking situations. a Martial art is only as effective as it's weakness...eliminate the weakness and one will have a devestatingly powerful martial art.
Please take a look at the different parts of this hub for more detail on each martial art specificly for more info. Part 1:Aikido is availible.
If you are looking for the most effective martial art for the street and self defence where guns, knives and multiple opponents usually are present, have a look at my article : The most effective martial art for self defence and the street. I have highlighted the 5 best arts for these situations in my opinion as also the reasons why.
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Personally i believe there is no ultimate martial art, i believe it depends how you've trained and probably Who trained under. Although some martial arts i believe are great are: Shaolin Kung-fu, wushu, Hapkido, Muay thai.
I agree,it's not the martial art but the practitioner that makes the art effective.Some martial arts still has weaknesses though.Even if you are a master,it will always be a challenge to overcome your art's weaknesses if your sensei doesn't teach what to do in a certain situation
Jeet Kune Do is the most effective style of fighting. No fixed positions, no fixed style, ultimate speed and power. Jeet Kune Do is "simply to simplify", "USING NO WAY AS WAY, HAVING NO LIMITATION AS LIMITATION". Thats what it's all about. Be like water my friend.
If I had to pick only one, I'd go with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. This became pretty clear when the UFC first started and Royce Gracie tapped out everyone that they put in front of him (Even a guy that trained in Ninjitsu). I think that training in martial arts and actually applying the martial art in a real fight scenario are very different. If someone wants a fight to go to the ground, it takes a very experienced fighter to keep it from going there. Once on the ground, and experienced jiu jitsu fighter can end it rather quickly...no matter the opponents size. If I had to have one skill that's the one I want, but I think that Mixed Martial Arts is certainly the proven style of the future.
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No matter how long/much you train, in which ever art you train, never forget there is always someone out there that is better than you are. All martial arts are deadly if used against someone who has no background or training in martial arts.
Want to know what martial art is dangerous art when it comes to facing one to many opponents than look no further "SILAT" is your answer.
Peace to all the martial artist.
The best fight is the fight where it ends before it starts!
How about the Koo Self Defense?
The notion that there is an ultimate art is silly. There is no ultimate art. Rather, a better way to think about it is that the person takes the arts and makes himself the best. There is rather an ultimate practitioner.
I think it depends on how much training the practitioner receives, but personally I believe Krav Maga is the most effective fighting style, having been developed for use by the Israeli military, it focuses on techiniques that work in real life. Perhaps other fighting styles are more sport orientated.
The best marital art is one that addresses the most common self-defence scenarios in the most efficient manner in any given eviromnent. Environment is a key factor to consider if the question 'What is the best style' is to be answered properly. I don't think any single style addresses all scenerios, sorry; if you what to learn to defend yourself properly, you will definite need to learn a few systems. In the UK I feel it is Krav Maga with a solid backgorund in JKD or MMA. This is because use of knives and firearms for self-defence is illegal in the UK. (If it was the USA, I would go for Krav Maga, knife fighting and combat shooting, since blades and handguns are permited for self defence.) This however doesn't stop criminals from using such weapons against law abiding UK citizens. Therefore the defender is at a severe disadvantage, all you are allow to defend yourself with are unarmed techniques or incidental weapons. Krav Maga is an important system to learn in the UK since it concentrates heavily on armed assaults with a weapon and close range and defences against firearms in the case of being robbed or threatened at gun point.
Good Morning all
The most effective martial art is DIM POP. Effective maiming and killing range is approx 50 yards with one Finger. It's my .40 caliber 13 round S & W. All kidding aside, studying any martial art is a worthwile effort in controling mind and body and developing spirit. All martial arts have somewhere is its foundation fighting skills. Even Tai Chi has fighting skills in its history somewhere. . Defensive street fighting is a whole new arena however. As skillful and conditioned as the MMA fighters are, They are training for a pre determined match against one similarly skilled oponent in a controlled ring with some rules. The average citizen must try to prepare himself for potentialy multiple attackers in a street envorment. Check out www.defensivecane.cdavisgroup.com for some ideas for the average guy.
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, yeah, its real great when you have more than one opponent, which is the reality most of the time outside a UFC ring! Also, try using it in a bar. Don't forget the Gracie's were experts in all ranges of combat but specialized in grappling. Anyone remarking that one perspective has it all... obviously has a lot of growing up to do and needs to take their eyes off the TV and try a dose of real combat. Currently I believe the UFC has 20 plus rules of what you can't do... all of which are the first thing you would do in a real time combat situation. Long answer for hard training, open mindedness, and a cultivation of what is most true to you. As soon as someone gives you an answer... it ceases to be the answer. There's no best art.
I'd say the best martial art would be the one you are comfortable to train with, and the one that suits your body type. IMHO, learning a lot martial arts, mastering them and trying to cancel their weaknessess would too time consuming. For me, it'd be better to stick to one that suits you, and master them.
it's all about a training time to gain best results IMHO. In boxing, kickboxing, muay thai, tae kwan do you can reach very good condition (as a fighter) in much shortest time than in karate, kung fu, aikido. 1 year in boxing and you can easily beat 1year karate guy, because karateka has to learn much more things and how to apply them. Same with aikido and kung fu. In boxing, kickboxing, muay thai, tae kwan do you can reach your top in a few years and your progress stops there or goes down, unless you will start to train much harder. In karate, kung fu, aikido you can't reach your top - theres more and more new moves, techniques and ways. It's the way (dojo) of (all) your life. It's just my opinion and i'm talking from my experience point. Sorry for my english.
There is no ulitmate martial art. It comes down to the trainer, the student and hard work. All martials are deadly and effective. Regardless of what ever boxer, kick boxer or grappler says. To slag off another style is both stupid and ignorant and shows lack of confidence in your own style.
And before any idiot says...what does he know". I am 4th dan in Karate, 5 dan in Judo and have trained in boxing since I was young. All martial arts are effective!!!
learn shaolin kung fu and you would beat fedor couture gsp silva and penn
Martial Arts is like a Religion in it self!
As one would respect other religions than one should also respect different type of arts.
As you would have faith in God, Than have faith in yourself and you will train well.
6 Articles a martial artist should follow:
CULTIVATE CHARACTER / TRAIN DAILY / HUMILITY / DISCIPLINE / ROLE MODEL / CONTRIBUTE.
Anyone ever heard of Ninpo? They teach it to special forces world wide for its proven combat effectiveness. Those other arts would probably get beat down by Ninpo....its the only art in the world that cant have a competition because of its proclivity for violence.
all martial arts experts should respect other forms. there is no best martial arts style out there. it depends on what u looking for. i practice wing chun which is what bruce lee learnt and mastered before he developed jeet kune do. wing chun has emphasis on speed, accuracy and technique rather than brute strength, and for me thats ideal. but there are many other styles of kung fu n martial arts that are effective such as jujitsu which are also effective
Last i checked theres a lot of martial art forms.... very few of which teach their trainees how to take a good punch... you show me a man who can take a shot on the button.... i'll show you a man that can probably outlast most in the "real" world.....
i believe that the best martial art is the one that suites you and helps you in any fighting situation,whether getting on the offensive or defensive.....now saying this sounds a little impulsive,but i guarantee you that a short,stalky man would be better at boxing than at judo.......if the skills match your abilities and your needs,then it is suited for you...for example,i wrestle,do judo,and im about to start up muay thai after wrestling...but im gonna stop judo so i can do muay thai..why?becuase,a few days ago,some idiot in the restroom thought it would be funny to start pushing me around with his dirty hands that he just peed with.....i could have taken a low outisde sweep and he wouldnt have seen it coming,but tere was pee on the ground,and i would hit my head on the sink.....no wrestling is MY SPORT,and i only did judo to help with my balance and some throws (did crap for me though),but muay thai will help me one of those situations when i need to get on the defensive....the main point is,there is no "best martial art",the one that is the best is the one that works for how aggresive and how you are physically built.
The best martial arts is the one that best suits you. Here's an example: theres one guy who's huge, say 250 pounds. Then theres another guy who kinda has a small fram,e say around 130 pounds. Now the big guy can effecively train in a style where he can use his weight and size to hsi advantage. I can't think of one off the top of my head but you get the idea. The small guy can learn a martial arts that uses his small frame and speed, such as Wing Chun. Reverse the styles and you won't get any effective fighters. But it also depends on the discipline of the students and the validity of the teacher. A crappy teacher creates a crappy student.I personally see the UFC as not even fighting. It has too many rules. In a real fight, yea you would gouge the guy's eyes out, yea you would hit him in the throat. In the UFC i mainly see guys hugging each other, yea i wouldnt wanna hug a guy whos trying to kill me.As to your idea of mixing. I see that as a bad idea. You're just mixing styles together, which dilutes them in a sense. It's better to master one or two styles.I remember a saying my Sifu said before, i think it went something like "I fear not the man who knows 1000 kicks, but i fear the man who has practiced one kick 1000 times"
You need a ground game and a striking game. Only learning one will put you at a disadvantage. My personal favorite is Muay thai + some form of wresetling/judo/jujitsu also known as shoestring fighting. Also weapons knowledge would be good, something like Kali. Most martial arts in the high ranks have weapons training though. In my old karate class the black belts start by learning the bo, and then move on to other weapons. You just need to be well rounded and know how to use your opponents weakness or strengths against him.
i myself choose ninjutsu fuck the gracies all the mma ufcs and the love tiptap love holds playing with eachother in the ring dont forget rules and tyme out go to your sensei ring bullshit thats the real reason ninjutsu lost its not made to be watterd down as sport think about it i been in gracie jujitsu and i got bored not to mention kung fu karate and taekwndo and aikido it all is missing something ninjutsu covers all ranges of combat if not watterd down do your history work
Under the condition of natural survival combat. You have to realize they are not subject to any rules. There are also no rings to take advantage of. The conditions of fighting that i have seen in a street fighting is not even one to one either. It can be one to many. Given all the rules, the best form of martial arts ever, here are based on natural selection: 1) Speed in runnig away. 2) Ability to surprise an attack from hidden area 3) ability to fight standing style to push away the would be attacker (muay thai) Under conditions of Jiu Jitsu, it works best on one to one, but in a standing style plus kicking you can do one to many. The only way I can be for sure is under no rules free ifghting styles under one to one and one to many, without a limited ring, but in a natural sending can we be really sure. I'm sure this is not the answer everyone is looking for. In any event all I know is under freestyle fighting, muay thai wins over karate, kung fu, and taekwondo. Wrestling or Jiu Jitsu is not a fight under the street fighting if you were actually engaged in that kind of fight. In fact there are quite a number of woman killed after using Jiu Jitsu on a criminal even without weapons. And given a mixed martial arts I have seen under street fighting conditions, the mixed martial arts actually lost. The reason is very simple, but disappointing to a mixed martial arts fan like me is that a mixed martial arts are large, heavy, strong, but slow. In a given street fighting conditions I have seen, none of the mixed martial arts professional actually won. Their speed were slow, and reaction were slow. Speed seems to matter the most even without a weapon. Since it's not performed under "scientifically" controlled condition. I really don't know. But boxing and UFC rules and other rules, just simply don't work in a real natural conditions.
One more thing about weakness of Mixed Martial Arts coming from a mixed martial arts fan: Speed are slow and endurance is low. In street fighting conditions there is no time limit. There was also an issue of attack under surprise conditions being the most significant. So it's speed, surprise and constant movement. A slow heavy strong Mixed martial arts are lost that way. There was a major street fight in my local area and it involved over 10 members from each over personal matters. The MMA all lost. Something's definitely wrong with these fighting rules. In war, the same principles apply. Speed, surprise and movement is the type or style of martial arts we look for. So what else is new? And one rules I like the ring to apply: one to many. Often in a survival condition it's rarely one to one. Trust me street fighting rules don't dictate one to one. They are always outnumbered.
Here is a more natural settings. I send two guys to an island. Like a reality show. Their assignments is to kill each other. Given that condition brute force may not an ultimate requirement. He can use any means whatsoever to kill. If I want to win a fight under a ring condition, I can just get a tiger to fight off a jiu jitsu and he would lost. The reason is simple: a tiger's sharp teeth will sink into your flesh. Now, under ring rules there's no biting no gouging and no groin. Given a large island Man has advantage of a tiger: his ability to make traps or his ability. If he has the brains to create bombs on any professional using natural resources he will loose anyway. In my flawed theory, I would imagine Ninja to be the best form, given the surprise, speed, and movement, but he also must have safari ability making traps and weapons.
I carry a gun.
In my opinion the most effective martial arts is boxing because It is the most simpliest among the martial arts. In real street fighting situation there is no room for francy martial arts movement, just keep it simple give a punch to your enemy and hope it is a knock down punch, quickly run away from the scene.
The most effective MA is the FMA (Filipino Martial Arts). Other MA (Martial Arts) are used for competitions. In UFC (MMA..etc), you may be the king of the ring because there are rules. You cannot bite, scratch, etc and has a time limit. Outside the streets, there are no rules. Anything goes. It is used by the Military Special Forces here and abroad. Even used in the movies like Jason Bourne and even Batman.
Try to research:
"Kali, Arnis, Escrima"
FMA is the deadliest Martial Arts.
"We are not trained to win.....we are trained to kill and survive"
I wanna tell to all man in this site. Action Better than talk.
For me everything can happen in fighting. No one of martial arts Master tell his fighting stly is strongest.
I've recently started training in Judo. I find it effective because I have confidence knowing that no matter how large, muscular, fast or intimidating my assailant is, i can use their own force against them by setting up points of leverage. I leave the rest up to the laws of physics and gravity.
i have read most of these comments and from the jist of it i find that the MA i would have most use for is Muay thai. From what i heard it has the street fighting skills i would use, judo and such would just be a wrestling match to me but on the ground you can just slam the opponents head into the ground or push him off and standup unless you know a ground fight would be a loss you could totally backup and avoid being takin down, but this is just my mind running different scenarios, but the people here already know whats what >.<
ONE day i will become a skilled fighter ^_-
To be a master of an art is a great thing, but it is even more to be master over one's self.
No there is no "Ultimate" art... but there are arts that can easily be used more effectively and efficiently than others. One such example being muay thai.
Jeet kun do is also another training process that is very effective because instead of focusing on only throws kicks or punches individually, it foucuses on overall style down to each basic move.
i do several martial arts including Tea Kwon Do, Jui-jitsu, and Ninjutsu. as for the styles ive dont i would say Ninjutsu is possibly the most effective as it is the anciant art of deception and silent killing. its also can be used as almost an ancient version of todays street fighting as it has knife, gun, and unarmed defenses/offense. it also is very finicky about technique so when u achieve a high status you know you are very good at it as well and that you truly have earned your rank. it is also very good if you enjoy history as it is very strong in that sense as well. the fact that it is also very unconventional makes it hard to really get a grasp of whats going to be coming at you next and that can be a major advantage for the defender.
I think karate is affective you can really hurt someone if you try. It is all about how powerful your punches are not how fast you can move or punch (even though that helps...) but it is better off to knock your opponent down while you still live. It hurts them (and it hurts you, (from past experiences)), but their are lots of other martial arts you can do which are just as affective; you need to find one which suits you and you're comfortable with.
Wow.. i read all these comments :D
Whele, yea i dont know where to start off.. I did shotokan karate inside this mostly kumite, which contains fast moves. ( i did it for 10 years) but i got tired of it, mostly becouse of the traditional part. So i took up MMA Karate (Fullcontact karate- daido juku kudo) which contains a LOT of other martial arts such as judo,karate,muay thai, wretling,street fighting.
I am doing well and i must thank a lot to shotokan karate. It is one of the best way to gain speed.. i mean SPEEEEED >< However everyone has to find his own styleS, if someone would say " hey its impossible to stick to 200 styles" i say that at least then go and spectate them.. try it out try ninjutsu, judo, taekwondo, and as much as you can.. at least you may see moves what to expect, if you cannot do it.
Sorry, but I had to post this...
SUMO is obviously the best martial art. Even cats know this.
Seriously, though...
First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to those of you who posted their experiences here.
Over the years, I've trained in Kung Fu, Ishin Ryu Karate, Tae Kwon Do and Judo. I've also trained for a few years in Muay Thai and Brazilian Jujitsu, mostly because of the onset of MMA...and I treated that training as a sport, not as a martial art.
During those years, I was exposed to the vagaries of each style. For instance, while training in Kung Fu, another school was invited to spar with our school while Master Wong visited from China. Our newer students were beaten soundly by the other school's beginners while our black sashes beat the other school's instructors. I guess that's why, traditionally, one isn't even considered a student until one reaches black sash (or belt).
It is my experience that there is no one martial art that is effective at every situation, at least at the beginner and intermediate levels. For instance, if a beginner in Jujitsu is faced with multiple opponents on the street, it would be better to throw a trash can and run than try to "tap out" one opponent while the other smashes your melon with a baseball bat.
It is only when one has reached some level of mastery that the practice becomes an art and not a series of moves intended to deal with one specific situation. That level of mastery is predicated on two things, your dedication to the art and your instructor's level of competency.
It is for this reason that I think the youtube videos pitting Karate vs. Kung Fu or Aikido vs. Jujitsu are a bit silly. He who has trained harder and had better training will always triumph. The "winner" will always be the one who has developed his warrior spirit further.
Thank you for reading. I humbly ask for your opinions on this matter.
Barbaric
One last thought. There is no such thing as a fair fight.
Peace,
Barbaric
Havent posted here in a while. I agree. Training is what make the fighter, rarely the art. I do however have a bit of a differation on your view. If you lets say put 2 guys of equal talent or lets say 2 clones in tai chi(no offence tai chi practioners since you guys practice it for inner peace ect.) and muay thai and train then intensively for 6 months in my opinion the muay thai fighter wil dominate,not because he's a better fighter but because muay thai utilizes body fighting mechanisms alot more proffecient and effective. But yes guys if you don't practice diligently don't even bother mentioning you do martial art
Surely kenjitsu. Check out 0.39 of Yoseikan Iaido for instance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JobotImxmU
Sliced you before you even begin to kick.
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Martial Artist says:
2 years ago
I welcome any opinion regarding these martial arts.Speak your mind on what you think