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As a new member of the Hub Pages community, I have seen the light. In order to be successful, here is what I have to do.
1) Write saucy romantic tales. Make sure they are SEXY. It's a sure fire way to get a score of 100.
2) Post hot sexy pictures of Bollywood stars. May not get you a score of 100, but it will get you close.
3) Post hot sexy pictures of swimsuit models. If you can't find pics of swimsuit models, write about tennis players posing for Playboy.
4) Write about honeymoon sex.
5) Post hot sexy pictures of Bollywood stars.
6) Write about anything you want, but make sure that the word sex is in it.
Examples:
How to Fix Your Sexy Car
How to Bake a Sexy Chocolate Cake
Sexy Gardens, Learn All the Secrets
Build a Sexy Chicken Coup in Two Hours
How to find a Sexy Pair Golf Shoes
What the heck, can we be a little more creative? I joined this network to be innovative, learn something and hopefully do the same for someone else. What did I find? Sex this, sex that, sex,sex,sex...In fact I have written sex so many times in this article I'm in danger of being listed as a pornographic site .
Here is my challenge to all Hubbers. After you have read this shameless attempt to gain readership by using the word sex five billion times, promise me not to read or look at any Hub that has the word sex in it (except for my articles that only poke fun at people who write about and post pictures of sexy people).
Okay, Okay, enough of the fun of games. In all seriousness, I am a bit perplexed by the number of hubs that deal in sex. I'm not a prude, but I find it all a little disappointing. It seems, from a writer's perspective, that the subject is a cheap grab at some easy money. After this article I promise that this is my last hub written about sex, (unless I have something thought provoking to say).
That is.... unless this hub lights up like a Christmas Tree and I make tons and tons of money from it.... JUST KIDDING!
Good day and happy hubbing
sschilke
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Hey man i think you are new to Hp
All these @#$% have discussed and the coversation is over on this matter
You are the one more guy on the same subject
sschilke,
Unfortunately this subject has been beaten over like a "dead horse" and so that is the reason for all the sexual innuendos that are on the top spot at Hubpages right now. Personally, I am an optimist, hoping that this nightmare will soon go away before we begin to lose credibility as a valuable web site. Although I love your writing, bringing up an issue such as this might just hurt your credibility simply because it has been so hashed over all ready. I agree with the issues and insights you have stated but by using the SEX appeal to get readers for this issue may just might create that familiar "bad taste in the mouth" feeling with some of the Hubpage members. Please don't take offense at the harsh comments by the gallery posters above, but remember that you have probably just stepped into a variable "snake pit" so to speak. Continue writing your wonderful Hubs and move forward is my only advice to you. I hope I have not been out of place with my comments, but I only wanted your Hubpage experience to be a positive creative one. Have a great day.
Harsh comments? Atleast, not from me. I'm not discouraging this new hubber. I was talking about the rights and freedom every hubber deserves here. Don't try to diversify like serious writers, gallery posters and all. Sounds funny. Everybody is a Hubber, that's all about it here.
well Im a new hubber and sschilke I think your right about the sex on the hubs but if I was trying to make some money here that would be the way to go since Im not tryin to make money here I dont stage my hubs around SEX!~cool~cya
These 'cheap soft porn galleries' are certainly not going to help HubPages.com (web site and its community) to gain more reputation online. It could happen very soon, what has happened to Squidoo last year, considering Google love...and rankings. I am also quite surprised, that editorial policy of HubPages.com is not more strict considering presence of nudity/soft porn on its own web site.
I have to agree with Doghouse on all points.
Weblog is not an authority of any kind here, so I encourage you to ignore him /her. You are just as free to write about this as he/she/it is to publish half naked chubby women from where ever and call it sexy, hot photo gallery of obscure unknown...
That said, Weblog will be back for sure.
There are so many talented writers here who never publish in that "genre." They are still very successful and maintain high scores. So stick with it. :)
I will chime in too, with Amy, Solarshingles and In the Doghouse. I joined HubPages in January with the promise that this was a publishing site for writers. I figured that everyone here would be of a like mind, though we would be publishing different material. The porn galleries have definitely increased in number and frequency of "authors" in the past few months and to me, that is distressing because it does take away from the writers here who want their work viewed and reviewed by other writers.
In the Doghouse is right that we have "beat the proverbial dead horse" on this issue in the forums recently. But not to say that a healthy debate cannot continue or that new hubbers like yourself have no voice in questioning the policies of HubPages, especially if - as Solarshingles points out, it jeopardizes the repuatation of this site. Enough said for me for now. Thanks for bringing this up.
Welcome to HUBpages .... post your HUBS, if they're good, you'll get readers. Great HUBS get spread. All the other stuff is just nonsense. - David
The worst thing about all these sex hubs is that they are b-o-r-i-n-g. I'm glad you wrote this hub. It kind of highlights what has been going on in the forums lately. Like Steph-- I'm here to write quality content and that's what I like to read. There is lots of it on Hubpages--on a wide variety of topics and I'm totally not interested in sexy celebs. Good job --hope to read more from you
Amy, I'm not shouting as if I'm the authority. Live, and let live. Shouting on other hubbers is not something you are expected to do here.
Write quality content, if you think you can. There is no serious problem unless and until you consider just photo gallery hubs are in competition with you. Read my comments before you say something against me.
What a good idea to get the attention of fellow hubbers by posting these kind of Hubs
Write some good quality HP and get the attention. But this is not the way to get more visiters by shouting on some other fellow hubbers
Why don't you write some good quality HP
Just like Amy Said Just delete this
Just leave all these @#$% here itself
Weblog, there are some facts we need to be very clear about. Your photo galleries are not just any photo galleries, but soft porn/nudity photo galleries, which should have never mixed with regular educational content present here.
Just a short look in your blogs shows, that soft porn and nudity is your business, which you heavily promote on HubPages. Your blogs (links are on your profile page) are valued by Google at PR0 (Page Rank 0), only one has PR1. That says enough about the quality of your on-line presence.
You are using HubPages Internet authority, which is valued in Google up to the PR5, to push your otherwise very low rankings. Only on HubPages.com your soft porn galleries could be marketed at PR5 on the "HOT HUBS" pages.
Your words: 'Live and let live' are very correct in regular life, until you don't push your 'cheap' soft porn photo galleries in educational content.
HubPages.com as an authority web site is going to loose its high reputation quite soon, due to the very extensive marketing of soft porn photo galleries on HubPages.com. We will all going to loose in our Google rankings due to the presence of soft porn photo galleries.
Weblog, I won't be silent anymore about the presence of your soft porn photo galleries on HubPages, because I want to preserve the Google rankings and the on-line reputation/authority of HubPages and HubPages community. We simply need to do anything to preserve and to nurture the high reputation of HubPages, which is not possible at all by inclusion of soft porn photo galleries.
ervin
You call it soft-porn. I call it sexy. Thats the difference. You're very much wrong about google ranking. I'm still getting my blogs and hubs in better places in SE results. And, there are no rules(HP & adsense) broken about gallery hubs. If they violate, HP admin is there to flag the hubs or bann the user.
You must have noticed Maddie(moderator) has closed a thread that went on with serious discussions like this. You are adding no values here, nothing new in this accusation, discussion. If at all HP team considers this a serious issue, let them come out with a solution. If you say you won't keep silent, go ahead. Keep shouting.
And, thanks for visiting my blogs. My blogs are celebrity blogs and photo blogs, not any kind of obscene material. Don't give me wrong certificate.
Weblog, I am very well aware that I am adding absolutely NO additional value to your promotion of soft porn photo galleries.
However, I am adding the value about the reputation of HubPages.com web site in the entire on-line community by clearly pointing the line/the border between educational and soft porn/nudity. I will be doing so, no matter your comments. (If I am honest, I haven't really started, yet.)
Google Page Rank is far the most important measure of the quality of each web page or web site. HubPages.com is at least 5 times higher ranked, than your blogs. As a member of the HubPages community I feel responsible to clear some facts about your soft porn photo galleries, which certainly do not contribute to the reputation of HubPages.com and its entire community, as well.
Educational content? There you are. Don't you see poorly written hubs? Or do you say every writer(?!) here are award winning authors? Poets? Teachers?
I wish you can read and understand my previous comment. No rules Broken and let HP team come out with the solution in your favor. If you feel, your SHOUTING adds some value, I too like it. (I said nothing is new in this debate, already Stooge, gale and several people made it in hubs and forums. Repeated accusations, repeated hatred)
Well, as far as you people are not ready to listen to the other side opinion, I have no point to put on this one-sided discussion. I wish All the best for your enlightening, educating hubs!!!
Weblog, no one shouted at you. Maybe you should go back and read that again. Solar Shingles is making a point about how these galleries are jeopardizing hp's standing with Google. It is not about hatred, as you put it.
I have read your posts, here and on the forums. You continue to tell people that the discussion is over. New people keep joining HP. They all want to know what the deal is with these galleries. They have a right to comment and state their opinion without you jumping all over them with your attitude. You have, in the past broken the rules with your hubs. I know this as a fact, because I flagged them. So please, stop telling everyone about the rules. And it is not your place to say when the discussion is over.
I guess you are very new on HubPages. Kindly refer T&C be4 publishing and S Materials.
GoogleCashMoney, you have been here 2 days.
To clarify, above, where I said"delete this" I was refering to that particular comment. I hit the submit button twice when my young child climbed on my lap. I was not asking that this hub be deleted.
Amy,
You are an inspiring/ incredible writer and a perfect example of 'when a HUB is great, it gets featrured and word about it spread. Your Power of Words and your newest How To Apologize are fine examples. Stephanie Hicks Tribute to her Dad will also have far reaching effects.
Seeing you argue/discuss/ get frustrated by communicating about should or shouldn't we allow sexy posts seems like a waste of your abilities. This is a issue for HUBpages, not for posters.
Amy & Stephanie, you write inspiring words, they deservingly get featured, they put smiles on people's faces, they help make HUBpages what it is today ... keep HUBBING!!!
Thanks, David. I just always have my kids running around in the background while I work. This morning when I went onto the "hot hubs" page my 8-year-old wanted to know why those two girls were touching tongues. It was only a thumbnail picture, I was not looking at that hub. That is only part of my problem with these types of galleries.
I will take you advice, though, and going back to using my words for kindness. :)
A comment from the author.
I admit that:
1) I am new to Hub pages (I think I said that in the Hub). It can't be helped, we all start at one time or another.
2) I am just "one more guy". This is technically true, thanks for pointing that out Jyuva.
3) I wrote this hub to increase traffic in a shameless attempt to make millions of dollars, quit my job, move to Key West and live next door to a famous Bollywood Star.
4) I used CAPS. Sorry, I didn't know I was breaking some rule, or Hub ethic.
Thanks for all of your feedback; I appreciate it. It appears to me that this issue goes way beyond what I wrote, therefore I think it's time for me to slip out the back door and bid you all adieu. I have some serious writing to do.
sschilke,
You have nothing to apologize for in questioning what is going on here at HubPages with the soft porn. As I said before, 5 months ago when I signed up, there was no where near the amount of this garbage cluttering the site - not to mention the "HOT HUBs" front page. There is nothing against you using CAPS. And, most importantly, just because the moderator closed one single forum thread on the issue most certainly does not mean that the topic is closed for discussion on Hub Pages. If that is the case, then perhaps it is time for some of us writers to find a new place to publish articles.
Do go and write some serious articles - that is all that I do. Ignore the porn galleries, unless you feel moved to give them a thumbs down (which you are certainly free to do!) All the best, Steph
sschlike,
I will quote myself, if that is not too obnoxious, "you have probably just stepped into a variable 'snake pit' so to speak." This is an important issue for Hubpage to consider because of the fact that our very own "reputation" with Google is at stake. As you are new to Hubpages , I will point out to you that your Hub has attracted some of the very BEST Hubbers, who have felt compelled to comment. If you are unsure of that do as Solarshingles has suggested and check on PR. These soft porn photo galleries do not add any PR value to Hubpages. The claim that these Hubs are simply harmless is not true. If you read the comments left on them by readers (which the writer of the Hub has the ability to delete, I might add) you will understand they are simply soft porn galleries which illicit hard porn comments. If Hubpages may be considered a credible source for all people, women, children, etc. then this must not be allowed or we will reap the repercussions of it I am afraid.
Amy, English is not my language. But, I'm sure you can understand my comments though my english is not upto your literacy level.
I never said the discussion is over. You may scroll up and read me again.
It is you and some other people here talking like you are the HP admin. I was pointing out humble, not as rude as you. It's nice to know you flagged my hubs. I have broken the rules. You have no point in talking about it while those hubs no more exist. That is my point, whichever the hub that breaks the rule will not be allowed here anymore.
Let HP admin come out with a solution. It's not my duty to put a fullstop to this discussion. I never meant it that way!!!
Thank you Doghouse for pointing out something that is of such importance. The comments are additions to any Hub on Hubpages. When they are allowed to remain on the Hub they are simply another expression of what the Hub artist is trying to convey. Hubpages gives each author the opportunity of allowing such "Smut", as is seen in these soft porn photo galleries, to stay or simply be deleted forever. The point is, these must be soft porn galleries and they are not harmless. They are titled correctly using SEX in their title, because they obviously achieve the desired results, by the comments that are left. This is pornography in the greatest degree. Google simply will not remain friendly with us when this issue is identified. These "girlie" photos are really soft porn and the comments prove it.
No one really can control what other people post; all you can do is control what you post. I've been on hubpages about 6 weeks now, and I try to post quality material, I also make it a point to encourage others who are trying to contribute educational, useful information.
I NEVER even look at these other hubs, and I trust other serious hubbers to avoid them too. Amy has a good point about children peaking over your shoulder, and seeing disgusting images. That's what reallly bothers me--I can't really check out "Hot", "Latest", or "Best" hubs when my child is in the room, and I just want to see what the top hubs are. It's too bad sso many people feel the need to click on the obnoxious hubs so they get to be on the opening pages.
sschlike, I think this hub is hillarious. If I had walked into HubPages two weeks ago for the first time, as you did, and seen all the photo galleries, hot hub selections, forums, and spin-off hubs on this topic, I think maybe I would have thought that sex-talk is what gets you noticed around here. In fact, I'd probably have written exactly the same hub you did, only mine would not have been as good.
I enjoy your satire and sarcasm. Please keep publishing your good writing on HP.
sschilke,
Thanks so much for having the courage to write this hub. There has been many discussions over this topic lately and I have been watching the comments both in the hubs and the forums as well just to see if the majority agree. While there are many who feel that to censor these type of hubs is wrong, for the most part, it seems that the majority are worried about the image that HP is receiving from these soft porn hubs as well as how it will effect all the members at HP. While this is important to me, my main concern is that anyone who is on the internet has access to these hubs, regardless of age. In my opinion, the only question that really matters is "Is the content in these types of hubs suitable for children to view?" My 8 year old grand-daughter is spending the summer with me and is in the room with me 90% of the time. This is the reason I am cautious of being on HP while she is in here. I have seen many of the images that are listed on the "Hot Hubs" and I certainly would never let her see that here if I can help it! A few weeks ago, I not only flagged a hub but also noted in the explaination box that I could not believe that image made it on the featured list! It actually showed a woman performing oral sex on a man!
Thank goodness that this was just before my grand-daughter got here or she may have been right with me when it popped up. I did not have to open the hub because it was on the featured page when I signed in! I will miss spending as much time on Hp as I normally do while she is here but I just can't take the chance of her seeing some of the images that pop up when I open the site. While I believe in freedom of speech and expression, all that stuff, I also believe that there is a time and a place for everything and there are sites that allow this type of thing that are better monitored from the eyes of children. I just felt when I joined HP that this was a family friendly site. I am not so quick to "flash the featured" as I used to be! This is my personal opinion.
I wish you all the best at HP and look forward to more of your wonderful hubs in the future! At least I know they will be safe for young eyes! Thanks for this hub!
Bonnie
Hey all,
Thought I'd mention the policy found under the 'help' tab. Thanks for bringing up this topic sschilke. If people read the policy it's fair to assume based on the policy that this would be a site that didn't have this problem, so I think expressing you concern is completely valid for this reason. There is so much sexual content everywhere on the web, and a lot of people get really sick and tired of it, one of those people being me. I think we should keep the conversation going and not shy away from the policy. The intention of this site was to provide a community for writers. No one needs to attack anyone or what they are writing it simply should be a matter of what's policy (governing factors).
This is the policy:
2. I want to write about adult content, what is allowed?
Adult content is not allowed. Below are some examples of prohibited adult content. This should not be interpreted as exhaustive list of what is prohibited. If you are unsure if your content is allowed, please contact us for a clarification before publishing your hub.
The following are not allowed:
pornographic images/ links to adult or pornographic sites/ discussion or promotion of sexual aids or toys/ detailed descriptions of sexual acts or practices/excessive profanity
Thanks for your input
Anja
I've been at hubpages for two months. If it wasn't for the good writers, many of whom have commented here, I would never have given it a passing glance. The large number of "icky" (don't want to get into a sexy/porn judgement) hubs here do bother me....but so do the ones that are blatantly selling something that has nothing to do with writing! I've flagged a New Jersey Used Car Dealer! I'm one of those who 'purposefully' used the word Sex in my title just as part of the 'fun frustration' that has been discussed in forums...once I had a concept where I felt I could logically use the word in my title, I did. Never would have even considered this IF it hadn't been for all the fuss, rightly so, about the sexyphotogalleries. I do truly hope those hubbers aren't making $$$ from these hubs...I flag them so much I feel like a horrible prude...but promise, I'm not! AH well...I've rambled on too much. SolarShingles, Amy,Steph, Robie, Bonnie,, etc. lets keep writing!
There will always be people like Weblog who will skirt the edges of the rules, playing a game of technicalities and grammar tricks rather than embracing the spirit of the law.
The problem with "spirits" - of laws or anything at all - is that they are ephemeral and impossible to hold. As long as someone is just out for themselves and profit, the essence of a rule is simply too nebulous to pin someone down. Porn pimps and their champions, like Weblog up there perhaps, can slip like greased pigs through the grasp of anything approaching decency. The ability to wring a plausible argument from nothing does not make that nothing true. Hopefully HP will just put their foot down and ban these people for circumventing the obvious essence of the rule.
Yes Blondie, let's keep writing/HUBBING. Putting (word that rhymes with) 'flex' HUBS aside, HUBpages is an excellent site. Somewhat addicting.
I think MONEY,SEX and GOOD FOOD are the three topics that is hard not to talk about. Because we are always thinking about one of them.
Shadesbreath - I fault HUBpages and not any one particular poster. HUBpages is totally hypocritical on this account. They may not be able to control the posters posting, but they can certainly control who gets featured. They purposely feature these HUBS, yet try to portray a 'clean' image.
Hubbers can get mad at weblog if they wish ... on this issue IMO HUBpages would be a more worthy target.
Welcome to HubPages, and as someone else said, you've probably walked into a snake pit regarding this discussion. Right now there are many hubbers that have creatively decided to look at this whole issue of sex ( me included) by experimenting and sometimes even poking fun at this whole issue ( me included) I have 2 hubs that came about because of this- " My Sexy Hot Hubber Pics " and my Sexy Hot Cat Pics (yes)- cats) Although I do not use google analytics to track what hubs are getting clicks, I could just about say with perfect certainty that I have not made a penny on either hub ( and I spent more time on my sexy hubbers hub than any other hub I've worked on)
So like was said earlier, just concentrate on writing great hubs and come join the forums where we have some lively debates about this topic and others.
Once again, Welcome!
I personally have no problem whatsoever with another Hubber, writing or posting that which they choose to - so long as it is not soft-porn photo galleries and adult content. What has already been described in this thread, is just that. As authors and educators to the public, it is offensive to write on a site, which supports soft-porn and adult material. I too chose Hubpages, for quality of content being written here.
Many of us write about our children. I do not believe that those of us who write about family, children, marriage, and other very credible information etc... should be placed side-by-side with those who write about or post that which is considered pornographic and adult.
There are many other venues to do this type of writing, which is not educational in the least. It was my understanding, that this was not what HP was about.
From what I am reading on this thread, the type of hubs who post soft-porn and adult content, are actually hurting Hubpages? I don't get it? Why would Hubpages allow this, if it is hurting it's Writers overall? Someone please explain this, as it does not make sense...
I realize that Hubpages is a business and that they make money together with their authors, dependent on traffic and clicks, etc... What sense does it make for HP to then allow content that would hurt our Google rankings, that would then bring in more traffic, etc...? Wouldn't HP want to clean out these soft-porn photo galleries and adult content Hubs, which they say are not okay?
I have flagged hubs that are either soft-porn photo galleries, or those which contain adult content, not appropriate for children as well as offensive to myself. I really like so many things about Hubpages, but I must agree with many of the writers who have posted on this thread, in regards to needing to reconsider where we write.
I thank you, for whatever reasons you did post this Hub - you have brought together some very powerful Writers here on Hubpages, whom I greatly respect and who want these soft porn photo galleries and adult content Hubs either removed or separated from the quality and educational articles that we publish.
If these other very credible writers were to leave Hubpages because of these types of Hubs being allowed, this would cause HP to begin a dive in the quality content that they advertise as Hubpages.com. This would be such a shame to lose the best of the best, because of increasing adult content. I stand with those here, who are taking the position that if this continues, another site for publishing needs to be seriously considered.
Welcome to Hubpages.
tDMg
LdsNana-AskMormon
To the author and everybody,
This is the comment left by the head moderator of HP in other hub by Stooge.
Maddie Ruud says(3 weeks ago)
Just thought I'd weigh in here. The "politics" of HubPages leadership hasn't changed. In fact, I don't think this is based on "politics" to start with. Our rules as far as what kind of content is allowed are basically those of Google AdSense. Explicit adult content is immediately flagged and removed when it is brought to our attention.
The kind of visitors that come here for photo galleries are not the kind of visitors who would usually come to read content anyway, so these hubbers are not actually "stealing" traffic from anyone else. One could argue that this is the way of the internet in general... it started as a way to share information, and now is largely used for pornography and spam.
We, here at HubPages, do our best to remove blatant forms of both. Older hubbers may remember that we used to permit adult content, when labeled as such. Despite much resistance, we made the decision to remove all adult content. Anything that remains can be easily viewed by an under-18 audience on television, in magazines, or elsewhere on the web. You are free to rate hubs thumbs down, to eschew these hubbers' fan clubs, and even to flag hubs that you feel might violate our terms.
However, as long as they are not breaking any rules, we will not deny them our service any more than we would deny it to people whose opinions we personally disagree with, or even those who might bring in less traffic. The HubPages mission is to make it easy for people to publish whatever they like (within certain bounds). We feel that everyone benefits from this model, and hope that others can see the merit in that overall goal, despite personal differences over what an individual prefers to publish and/or read.
Well, Weblog, seems to me what Maddie is saying is that as long as you don't break the rules you can post. I went and looked at some of your hubs last night and I have to say you come perilously close to the edge and I think that LDS Nana has a point aboout the educational value of your hubs....which do have content it is true-- usually about penis size or sexual fantasies like a man being seduced by his secretary. Your pix don't quite show bare breasts or crotches--but they come close and some are quite sleazy. I don't know what the literal definition of soft porn is, but Ithink your 90 plus hubs might well be considered soft porn by some people.
And what's with the comments sections where girls are leaving email addresses and personal messages? and offering to send you their pictures?? What are you doing anyway? I bet you have more than one account here on Hubpages too.
In sum, you may be operating within the letter of the law, but I don['t like you or your hubs--they make me feel unclean. Call me a prude, but I think this stuff has zero value and I have zero respect for you or your content here.
Robie, I'm not here to call you prude or by any other name. I don't bother if you don't like my hubs. I'm doing my job, I'm not poking my nose anywhere unless it's needed.
I've had warnings/flagging in several hubs and I've also deleted them without re-submitting or altering. I know the rules. I have more than 172 hubs now. I'm sure you have seen only very few. Probably, you have not come across some of my hubs that have more of text and less pictures. Sadly, those text rich hubs get me very less traffic. I'm not bothered about your other accusations (about comments).
This is going on like a war, not as healthy discussion anymore. Everybody is concentrating in finding faults on single hubber - weblog, it's me.
My request to all of the enlightened writers, educating authors is simple - Just do concentrate in making your own hubs. That's not a harder thing for you all.
Trust me, weblog. I won't be reading any more of your material. This is not a war and I understand that you are in business to make a profit-- I just have no respect for the business you are in and just being close to it makes me want to take a shower--yuk.
I won't be commenting to you or about you again. I have no desire to waste my time.
I beg your pardon, Weblog. You are not following the rules, They clearly state that copied content is not allowed. I had to view only three of your hubs to see that your favorite place to steal from is wikipedia.
Your photos are stolen. Perhaps the photographers of Indian celebs don't care, but I think that the WWE does. I will find out for you this afternoon, when I see my brother-in-law, an executive at WWE in Stamford, CT.
You are breaking the rules, plain and simple. You feel attacked personally and you are correct, in my case. If you wanted to be left alone, you should have kept a low profile and not continued to comment and draw more eyes to your substandard hubs.
You keep telling everyone to mind their own business, but you don't take your own advice.
MY request of you is that you...ahh. Never mind. Been there already.
Low profile? I'm not in need of stooping down. I know my values. And, AMY or any other hubber is not the authority to moderate my hubs. I'm aware of all the things I do. I was just responding, I did not call anybody for a open war. I never said I wanted to be left alone. I'm a part of this community, even if you don't agree with it. That's it.
Amy Jane, it's not me to start this madam. I'm seeing photo gallery hubs for the past 1 yr(atleast) in HP, I have just 3 months of exp. Copyright - That's a great issue, to be frank - nobody of you will be able to use any of youtube, metacafe, google videos. I'm sure not only the photo hubbers but also some writers use pictures, video in hubs. So, if you talk on copyrights it will be seriously a same side goal.
If somebody in a glass house is throwing stones on others, I enjoy the fun. Then, it's all upto you.
Veblog, just a slight look at your blogs shows, the real nature of your business, which is presenting soft porn photo galleries and extensive advertising for people to accidentally click to any of numerous adds, there.
Your blogs are all, but one rated Google Page Rank 0 (zero, nought). If you call that a quality content, it is entirely up to you.
If you mix your soft porn photo galleries here, it is up to the owners of the site and the community here, which cannot avoid your presentation of sleazy soft pornography on the first pages of HubPages.com with Google Page Rank 5 and PR4.
Weblog, again, you are incorrect. The youtube videos are allowed and not violating any copyrights. The photos I use are either used with the permission from the photographer, or from a stock photo site where I PAY for a subscription. You will not find any copied content on my hubs, or on any of the hubs by the top hubbers that have posted here.
I never said you started this.
WHAT ABOUT YOUR COPIED CONTENT? You breezed over that. I will not.
Solarshingles, If you're accusing my blogs are porno sites, I have nothing to worry about it. Probably, that only means you're calling our Indian Celebs as pornstars. They are not indeed. I'm posting celeb images in my blogs, if you say they are pornstars, then it shows your ignorance. Naturally, you are not supposed to know about Indian celebs. And, also I have a blog full of jokes.
I never argued with you about the quality of my blogs, and I have to remind you that you are off topic. We are here talking on hubs.
Instead of talking to me about PR of HP, I feel you can directly write to them telling how much you care for their SEO. I wish you all the best :)
Amy, it's not only about youtube. Better you go through the hub by Gale583 that is similar to this hub, especially the comments section.
May be, you can say I breezed over what you said. My answer to you was already there in above comments.
Let me quote, "...I know my values. And, AMY or any other hubber is not the authority to moderate my hubs. I'm aware of all the things I do..."
On the whole, you can spend your valuable time in hubbing, instead of finding faults on others. That may not be my request, but a friendly suggestion LOL
NO, Weblog, you did not answer my question in any way. I will repeat. YOU are breaking the rules by copying copywritten content from wikipedia and other sites. The authors of those sites own the rights to the words that you are using to push your stolen pictures. THAT is my problem with you and your "work."
Clearly you have no values, and not respect for the rules of hubpages. As solar shingles pointed out, you have a 0 pr on hubpages. Your hubs bring everyone down in the eyes of Google. THAT is my problem with you.
You want me to go back to hubbing and leave you alone. I get it. I am not alone in this. IF I were to walk away now, another hubber would take over for me. So stop with your suggestions. LOL indeed. My friendly suggestion is that you stop commenting here. I am not suggesting you stoop down, you could not get in deeper if you tried.
What we are saying is that it will no longer be "valuable time" hubbing if the value of HubPages is brought down by soft porn websites, copied content and the like. Right now, HubPages enjoys a good Google Page Rank value. That is threatned by the continued garbage that is clogging Hot Hubs and taking away from the educational hubs that are published here. Google will punish HubPages over time for allowing hubbers to publish copied content (cut and pasted from Wikipedia) and soft porn. By the way, the people in the photos don't have to be porn stars for it to be porn. Duh. All it has to be is suggestive and presented in a way to be titilating (is that too big a word for the soft porn hubbers?) Why should we waste our time continuing to publish educational content if it is going to juxtaposed (another really big word - not in your dictionary I'm sure) next to half naked women or french kissers? No thank you.
Stephicks, I was telling about the celebrities in my blogs. Solarshingles was claiming my blogs have porn. I was talking to him. I'm sure you have not visited my blogs, don't confuse. I hope you and Amy can read what Maddie said - I pasted above.
Amy, that was not my suggestion pointing to you. That is something I said to everybody like you. Anyway, I have no gain in commenting here anymore. This is already a one-sided arguement. Amy, you're trying to attack me personally, it's ok. But, you're being a woman I wish you can be more humble in your words. I may be in ground level as you said, but I'm not pulling your legs down from there.
About copyrights, you all may feel you are the saviours of HP. But, Amy, as I told already - Neither You Nor any other hubber is my moderator. If you have problem with me, just ignore me. That's all I can say.
Whats the rule ? --- Sex sells.
I have noticed this to be true here.
Weblog,
I have not addressed you personally in this conversation once, but unfortunately your comment has "sucked me in"!
Quote, "Amy, you're trying to attack me personally, it's ok. But, you're being a woman I wish you can be more humble in your words."
Oh, no you didn't!!!!!
If you do not want to step on more dangerous territory than you already have, I suggest you refrain from complete ingnorance on what a "woman" is. Obviously you have no respect for women at all by the presence of your soft porn galleries, and your suggestion that women (or children or the family unit for that matter...) are merely SEX objects by what you publish.
Maybe in your country a women is to be seen (obviously as a sex object) and not heard, but that is not how it is in my country...so in admonishing Amy to be more "humble in her words" because she is a woman... buddy you have finally crossed the preverbial line for me!
I have simply ignored your type of garbage which is so offensive to women that, quoting another valued Hubber Robie, " I just have no respect for the business you are in and just being close to it makes me want to take a shower--yuk."
But my friend in your attack of women, the "glove" has suddenly come off!
I didn't attack AMY by any means. It is nothing wrong to expect a woman to be humble. I did not ask her to bow. And, you have invited yourself here, again. You people go on telling whatever, I'm not going to comment here anymore. This is totally one-side debate and of no interest to me. Good Bye.
Veblog, it seams you have a very serious problems with English semantics. Read my writing once again, and if you still cannot comprehend it, read more. You wanted to install the words I would have never been written or said. I am repeating again: your blogs are soft porn photo galleries valued by Google at PR0. Only one has PR1.
Here on HubPages.com you have your first and the last opportunity for your soft porn photo galleries to be presented on the AUTHORITY web site. HubPages has not obtained Google Page Rang 5 by promoting soft porn photo galleries on their first page with PR5.
That is what I am saying. And the term, which I am constantly using is: 'soft porn photo galleries'.
Hi everyone, the short of the issue seems to be:
We "writers" don't like the fact that sex sells. It cheapens but it sells. I renamed my attention hub with the name Hey Sexy, Can I have Your Attention, Please and it did get a lot of traffic. No sex was in the article itself at all and I posted a disclaimer at the beginning of the hub mentioning why I put it in the title. It was an experiment and aimed at humor.
Second, we all know sex sells, (0 I said that already...)and I don't like the cheapy pics either.
New people are probably shocked. I ignore the sex photos and just keep writing, clicking on new and loyal writers that click on my hubs and we just keep passing the creative ideas around and up and down.
I agree that as new writers come on hub, which we all need to be sure and welcome, this discussion is going to keep coming up. Let's be patient, re-tell with a few comments and get back to writing. These sex picture galleries will come and go don't you think? No one takes them too seriously for long.
Let's just over power them with great writings -- you all are so capable of that!
=) Marisuewrites
Good job, sschilke. You have more comments than any of my boring, helpful hubs have received. (Not being sarcastic - I'm serious). You're right, the word SEX in a title does seem to get the most attention. Just keep writing good hubs and you will still gain readers. HubPages is a great community to belong to. Hope you enjoy being here.
weblog you have crossed a line that is unprofessional. You would be wise to re-consider your postings and your comments and treatment of other hubbers. Being humble is a 2 way street and perhaps you could model that for us...I'd enjoy seeing some humility from you, myself.
=) and clean up your postings...
<i>Google Page Rank is far the most important measure of the quality of each web page or web site.</i>
This is pure BS. Google PR is mostly the measure of how many backlinks a website has and its internal linking structure. It has little to do with quality. It is all about the links. There are plenty of porn sites with PR 5, just like Hubpages.
Embitica, whatever you say, Google Page Rank (PR) is still the most important measure of the quality of any web page (URL) in the entire Internet. Full stop.
Embitica, do you really want to know how much organic traffic from search engines HubPages.com would have got at a much Lower Page Rank and Other Preferences Lost, considering Google? 0 or almost 0. And if one 'accidentally deserves' Google supplemental list/directory (Google prison), than the traffic form Google search drops to flat 0.
By the words of Bill Gates of Microsoft Google already serves 75% of all searches in the world (in UK more than 85%).
You are pointing to plenty of Porn Sites with PR5. Yes, that is correct. They are porn sites, which have relevancy of porn sites and Google reward them in accordance with that.
HubPages.com is NOT a porn site and Google does not tolerate mixing of strictly educational and generally entertaining content with soft porn photo galleries. There is also 'non-copyrighted photo content' and 'stolen - copied text' from authority web sites.
Is it me, or has this turned into a forum thread?
SSChilke, you got some controversial comments here. I'm going to keep it short and in the same vein as David (516Ads) and say, welcome. Write good hubs, ignore the controversy.
By the way....I thought your title, "Build a Sexy Chicken Coup in 2 Hours", was absolutely hilarious!
I want to make one thing absolutely clear, and that is - that in my earlier post, I attacked not a single person here on Hubpages.
I am addressing a very serious problem on Hubpages in general. I have always loved the saying "If the shoe fits, wear it". Those who are guilty of posting these soft-porn photo galleries and adult content on Hubpages, know who they are. It is not necessary to point them out.
Those who are much more knowledgeable than I am, in regards to "why" this adult content is not a fit here on Hubpages - have educated us quite well.
Google does not like to mix pornography and children in the same neighborhood, and neither do we, who consider that which we write to be educational and child-friendly. The Internet is a big place. I now understand the reason these peddlers of pornographic photo galleries and adult content are "using" hubpages. They are abusing Hubpages for their current Google ratings.
Those of us who write quality content and publish here on Hubpages, must be vigilante in our efforts to let Hubpages know that this is not okay with us. We care very much about Hubpages and want to keep the bar raised, by adding to the quality of Hubpages, not to take it down. Those who would abuse Hubpages, are not welcome here, by those who actually care about the long-term success of Hubpages.
It is time to clean-up the neighborhood, before the value of our neighborhood begins to drop dramatically and nothing sells. Let's see what we can do to add value here... that which will benefit the whole community and not that, which takes away! After-all, what kind of neighbors do we want here on Hubpages?
tDMg
LdsNana-AskMormon
I've only gotten one comment on any of my hubs. :(
Nana,
I couldn't agree with you more! This has become a very intense issue both in hubs and the forum as well. I think it is time that the HP staff stand up and force their own TOS. If this is the kind of content that we can expect to keep getting here at HP, I can easily take my hubs and move to a more family friendly site, as I thought HP was when I joined. I doubt that my leaving would make a hill of beans difference to anyone here at HP but I would be willing to bet that I would not be leaving alone if this issue is not taken care of in some form. I am not the first one to make that suggestion and a few of them are excellent contributors here. Once several of them start to pull out and the newbies that come in see what is being allowed, it won't take long for the serious writers to be gone and the smut-peddlers can take over.
Bonnie
Bonnie, you would not be the only one out the door with your hubs if HubPages continues to allow the soft porn to remain on Hot Hubs and to even be published here with inappropriate tags and stolen content. For people to have the attitude that newbies somehow have no voice to be concerned either is seriously disturbing to me as well. But that is a wholly different issue that has to do with bullies on the forums, and not the more pressing issue at hand.
Can I read the hubs about boobs?
Funnebone, you are too funny!
Steph,
Thanks for the support. I just feel that this issue is not going to get better simply by ignoring it and concentrating on putting out more hubs as it has been suggested. I also think that the impression that newbies are getting are very important and should be voiced as they are also the future of HP. If newbies come in here and see this type of smut and go elsewhere, what does that leave here at HP? Simply put, the smut-peddlers. When I joined, I was proud to tell everyone to come here and publish and also give out my links here in all my business forums and articles. Now I am beginning to think I need to retrace those posts and not send my business associates here because of this. It isn't just HP's reputation at stake when we have our own businesses and promote this site in our business forums and articles! I love HP and most of the hubbers here but I won't ruin my own business reputation for the sake of the smut-peddlers, either.
Bonnie
Ladies let me first say I love you...and I am talking about emotional love in addition to the physical attraction I sense we have.
This is the slippery slope of censorship. I often become irrate when I hear people abusing the term freedom of speach but I understand both sides. You remember back a few weeks ago when I was in a heated battle with someone because they thought my posts shouldn't be on Hubpages. I somehow got lumped into the same category of the soft sexy pictures just for using a few bad words. I do think the community should develop a shared value system, and in doing so it runs the risk of alienating some members.
I do not find this site to be the bastion of sin and corruption that others seem to stumble upon. This is the internet and most people using it are aware of its contents. I don't think any reasonable person could hold one author accountable for anothers writings just by using the same website. This would be akin to me boycotting Random House books because they published a book I didn't care for.
I do think that most of the points being made on the subject of sexy pictures and such are because of hubscores and not "the vulnerable children"
Once again I love you ....and I qam typing this in my underwear .
I definitely hubbed about this several months ago, but it hasn't been as popular I guess because the word "sex" isn't in the title -_-*
Fascinating.
Has anyone noticed that sschilke hasn't had poop to say about any of the comments on this hub for the last two days? In fact, the last comment from the author ended in *It appears to me that this issue goes way beyond what I wrote, therefore I think it's time for me to slip out the back door and bid you all adieu. I have some serious writing to do.*
With no disrespect intended to anyone, I know what you all are talking about, but who are you all talking to?
I hear the concerns loud and clear, and they have nothing to do with sschilke. They have everything to do with the tone and tenor of what HubPages was, is, and will become. Is this hub's comments section the best forum for these concerns?
one answer sally to that question NO! ~cool~ cya____!
Funnebone,
We love you, too! But we are not talking about censorship. We are talking about enforcing the TOS that HP themselves have in place. Most of us that have a problem with joined HP thinking that it was a family friendly site. There are sites suitable for these types of hubs and HP was not that kind of place when I joined. And, no disrespect but for me, it IS about the children. While I can't speak for all concerned, I do not want my 8 year old grand-daughter seeing this type of garbage! She has been out of the room most of the day doing other things so I have been able to spend more time here. If she had been able to view the screen, I would have been out of here like a rocket! Maybe it isn't offensive to you but then again, you aren't a child. At least I hope not! lol
Sally, I do believe that you have a good point here. I think the snake pit was opened and the door master tucked tail and ran! Guess we should keep this in the forums so as to not cause any excessive hub score on this hub since the author can't participate.
Bonnie
MY point ~cool~cya__!
well I will throw my 2 cents in the bucket. I have noticed the sex hubs and was suprised to find so much of it here. But I deceided to just keep writing my hubs and stay focus, and don't worry about the folks who are showing some skin on their hubs.
Sez Sells, imagine the show Sex in the City, without SEX. It is a crazy world of horny people who are interested in reading about this or that...mostly because their own lives are so boring. It is always a great marketing tool...I remember COORS spent millions promoting the TWINS...yeah that was cool.
sschilke
you have proven your own point. Look at all the comments you have gotten. SEX sells... and everybody wants to talk about it.
SolarShingles, Regarding your comments about weblog and her porn: You are my HERO, dude! I thought I was the only one disgusted with her and the others like her who are degrading the quality of HP. Thank you!!!
Sschilke, It started as a rant (not the galleries, but the protests), by Stooge - I'm pretty sure), about all the trashy galleries all over HP. Many people joined in, Weblog clumsily tried defend her porn galleries and assert herself as a legitimate hub writer (looking at her titles list is all you need to do). It quickly became ugly - as will no doubt happen here, as well. Then David (516ads) did a brilliant hub spoofing the whole thing and we all had fun with it. This concept was, of course, completely over Weblog's head so we didn't hear a lot from her (which was nice!), then everyone started putting the word "sex" into their titles to see what would happen, and of course, it worked. Hopefully it'll all blow over. We don't know how to get rid of the smut pedellers... any ideas? Apparently they aren't breaking any rules.
PS: I wrote my hub "Flowers... It's All About Sex" before this whole thing came about (or before I was aware of it), or I certainly would not have titled it that.
Funnebone....too funny!! Boxers or briefs??? TEASING. don't get mad...it was just the obvious follow up comment --
I say, RELAX everyone. the porn will always be with us...just step over it and let the powers that be take care of it. They come and they go...no pun intended.
eek I better quit while I'm ahead or behind. LOL Marisue can we have a chuckle here?
sschilke - As you said, it's up to HUBpages to do something about the SEXY HUBS.
Aside from that, I don't think the landscape of HUBpages needs to be changed.... The vast majority of HUBBERS are part of a terrific community. You want to increase viewership .... you want HUBpages to be a vibrant ... write great HUBS. GREAT writing gets spread.
Seems this is as easy as adding a third check box saying something like "smut", so it could be filed in another subdomain, if not server. That way we could have 2 google ratings.
Google contributes to the hypocrisy itself. Googling porn will prove that they index it by the trainload. The ads my hub drew during assembly were nothing but sex.
This ain't going to go away, because when you dig long enough and deep enough, you'll find that well over 25 % of all searches performed are for variations of sex. The only basic need that this society does not systematically fulfill.
I think that would be the best solution: A category specifically for T&A galleries. That way, when I'm looking for hubs about music, IN the music category, I'm not having to wade through more soft-porn than music.
Gallery hubbers would be required to tag these galleries appropriately. Misleading tagging would result in the deletion of the hub. Repeated offenses: the closure of the account.
Oh Lordie....
This is a can of worms.
R. Martin Basso
HP team has spoken in this thread about this issue:
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/5707
Visit that too, discussion is going on more serious than here.
R. Martin. I know, and nothing is ever resolved.
I posted a similar comment on a different HUB forum, but it suits fine here as well.
You guys don't want sex on HUBpages, I got something else for you .. lets change the world!!! If you don't want that, I don't know what you want. Maybe you just want to write and hope that everyone loves what you have to say. Maybe you join others friends just so they'll join yours. Who knows? As my profile states, I'm on HUBpages to make a point that Goodness Needs To Speak Up ..... as long as it's going to, it might as well say something smart.
LEARN - Let's End All Racism Now
LEARN - Love Excellence And Respect Now
LEARN, spread the word!!!
It's about love people ... goodness speaking up ... don't make it more complicated than that. HUB away.
Exactly, Constant! And when you try to speak up around here, you are told by a few to either deal with it or shut up and go somewhere else. I have been on many social networking sites and have never had to take the kind of abuse I have witnessed in this site lately! I am sure there are other sites that don't allow this type of smut and I will move on to them along with a few other hubbers that are as sick of it as I am. I will drop in occasionally to visit some of the hubs by those I already visit, though. It is sad that only a few get to have a voice in such a wonderful place. I wish all of you the best and hope to see you around!
Bonnie
Web metrics are suspect at best, but assuming 32 billion searches per year, with Google handling half of them, and 25% being adult, That's around 4 billion requests for T&A, which explains why no major search engine would remain in business if it ignored that large of a market.
516Ads is on the right track with his last comment. I'm here for search engine visibility, so the real question in my mind becomes why these people (in all categories) target the keywords that they can never place well for, let alone profit from.
Sorry to see you go, Bonnie. Too bad this topic is an endless loop that you're doomed to repeat at every up and coming site you hang at.
Before I logged in today I looked at the Aces board and was pleased to see that T&A is far from the only subject scoring 100 and 99. Who knows- maybe we can set the saucy wench up as a copywriter, since that just may be the finest copy I've read in over a year.
Dear author, I've given a forum thread link above. You will see more info in that thread where Hubpages staff has also spoken.
Here is the link, again: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/5707
And, plese accept my apology if somewhere in my comments I sounded like discouraging you. I wish you all the best. Happy hubbing :)
Weblog,
I read the whole forum after you posted it the first time. I am not sure about how serious of a discussion it really is, but the comments from Mr. Deeds (great name, sounds like a villain from a James Bond movie) were interesting and informative. At the end of the day, it sounds like Hubpages is trying to navigate a tricky issue that will forever be nipping at their heals.
Don't worry about your comments towards me, I consider it all a learning experience.
sschilke
Tricky ground, indeed, sschilke.
I forgot to thank you for posting this hub in my last comment. It gave me a great deal of food for thought about the community and about the search engines looking over our shoulder.
We need "discussions" like this a few times a year, not to resolve anything, but to bring newbies like myself up to speed.
Chaiman,
Thanks for the warning but I have been on the internet long enough to be well aware of this problem. The reason some of us won't be publishing here is not only because of the content issue. Our main issue is the refusal of HP to enforce their TOS as well as the way a few people are allowed to mistreat others who don't agree with them. It is really sad that the newer members have to be made to feel unwelcome by a few. This issue has gone far deeper than just a material issue for many. I will still be visiting friends' hubs even though I have unpublished the majority of mine. It isn't everyone's fault that this has happened and I have met many wonderful people here. I just won't be hanging out here as much anymore. I'll be around when you least expect it! lol I wish all of you the best in the world!
Bonnie
Hey sschilke, thanks for writing this. I am a couple weeks new to hubpages too and I've noticed a bunch of things like this too; Sex for promotion, self proclaimed hub authorities, hypocrisies, etc etc . Just because other people wrote about this doesn't mean you can't. Love this hub! btw, let me know when you're done with the hub on how to build a sexy chicken coop.
HP has posted some great news in the forum I thought some of you may be interested in! Makes me glad I came back to HP.http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/594#post66020
Bonnie
I am LAUGHING my butt off! It seems to have worked! "Dead horse" or not, just broachingthis topic certainly raised some interesting discussion and got some fresh thoughts into the fray. Look at all these comments! I'm glad you wrote this hub, truly. OTHERS may have discussed this topic in the past, but as new hubbers (of which I am one) come on board there will be new ideas and fresh input. Just because a topic has been discussed previously does not mean there is nothing more to be said...just ask Obama and McCain! By the way...sexy chicken coops? Sexy golf shoes? Sexy chocolate cake? Now, HERE's a hub topic worth requesting: "How to bake a sexy chocolate cake while walking through a sexy chicken coop without getting doo-doo all over your sexy golf shoes". NOW THAT I wanna see! Thanks for the great discussion here...I for one hope you will NOT be quiet!
Namaste...LorrieB
Good topic,
of course i can't read all the comments, but you can always any low quality hubs and let the admins decide, right?
thnx for the hub
Wow! Almost a 100 comments on a subject that is "overdone"! I wish I had this many comments on my blogs. Folks don't let the image selected by the hubber fool you. Everyone is referring to Weblog as she and my guess the correct gender is male. I have noticed here and in social networks that Indian men like to use Bollywood actress pictures as their image becuase they get traffic.
It is a pschological ploy. Women feel safe contacting them or adding as friends because they are "another woman" and guys think they are talking to a "hot" chick. When you see my image what you see is what you get; gray beard and all.
I realize this is an old hub butit certainly speaks the truth, I wonder if I should publish a hub on sex? Not really but their are some pretty high scores and major fans. Interesting that Matt made the comment that a majority were men, I somehow knew that the entire time. :)
I think that the author used the word SEX.. that brought so much traffic for this page and also so much discussions and comments here..
Oops, I've just joined the rank of file of hubbers owning a hub with the word sex in it. I apologize but think the advice given there, and here, is still sound.
great hub. great flow of ideas and arguments. We can see a great writer in the making here.
Congrats.
Hmmm, six months later and we're still talking about this hub... maybe there is something to this "sex" thing after all.
I'm kinda new here, too. And I appreciated hearing your comments about the inuendo's and high visibility of hubs in that category. Very surprising for a reputable site for serious authors and sharing community. Let's hope it all dies down to a whisper. Thanks for posting.
After read through a couple of your hubs I have to admit that the comments you got on this hub are much interesting beyond your topic "The Use of Sex". This hub could be a successful example of getting traffic by writing about sex. Congratulations!
thanks yxhuang for surfacing this old hub, if not i would have missed some wonderful discussion about the topic at hand - and I thought the first round of discussions on this matter was last month's hot Forum debate over "Hot Indian CHicks". And apparently this thread right here is not even the first of its kind! What can I say but sex sells more than religion and politics! LOL I was read every comment and I've learned lots. :D
Cris A, did you even use the word "sex" in your NAKED WOMEN hub? I don't remember...was too busy looking at all those unclothed females. :D
LOL No i did not. But i used it in my hub on SEX symbols, for lack of a better term... Hmmm... could've have used Females that Tickle the Male Libido or something! :D
Be sure to read my Hub about sexy ways to keep mice from eating your spark plug wires. Nothing hotter than that!
But this hub proves that writing about sex is the answer! Sort of like saying don't smoke pot or don't drink as a teenager. You draw the line in the sand and people have to cross it.
But sex articles should be in good taste as this one was, lol.
lol 1 hour i have reading this i am more confused now than i was before reading this hub about the fine line of "soft porn" on hub
well this is what i think and follow:
peace , live and let live, dont a like matter on hub flag it or contact HP moderators.
Hi,
I have to say that I agree with sschilke, I have started created hubs lately and it does seem that most of the hubs which seem to do well are the ones with sex or sexual references. I think one way of avoiding them is not to go on them, I mean will that at all help?
weblog says:
2 years ago
You're too late. There have been lot of discussions going on in forums and hubs regarding the same thing you point out. And, don't forget you have also used the word SEX (in caps) to drive attention and traffic to this hub. Try something serious. Hubpages(HP) is for everybody. You are not the authority to say what is HP made for.