The War of 1812:Role of the French
84The Leclerc Campaign to Haiti
Leclerc Campaign. During a brief peace between France and Britain in 1801, Napoleon sent 12000 men under his brother-in-law, General Charles Victor Emmanuel Leclerc to Haiti. Leclerc had married his younger sister, Pauline. Prior to being sent on the campaign, he assisted General Humbert in his invasion of Ireland in 1798. Leclerc’s new mission was to verify the colonies loyalty to France in light of its recently published constitution. Leclerc voiced benevolent reasons for the expedition. Locals knew better, being fully aware of the expedition’s unstated purpose of ousting Toussaint L'Ouverture. On arriving, the local mayor refused allowing the French to debark, threatening to burn the town. The French debarked, and the town was burned.
The English and the Americans both supported Toussaint’s actions in Haiti. They hoped that France would then end the privateering in the area with Haiti taken out of the picture. Without a military base, it was believed that French privateering would end. James Madison even secured a treaty with Toussaint that provided weapons and ammunition to his uprising. Haiti was a money-maker for France. The French government needed money, and the recent revolt in Haiti served to interrupt the flow of cash from the island and its products. France needed money and was not going to let Toussaint stand in their way.
Leclerc's invading force eventually gained control of most of the island. He arranged to meet with L’Ouverture. During the meeting, Leclerc seized L’Ouverture and sent him back to France, where he died. Leclerc also began disarming the blacks on the island. The situation soon turned sour, erupting into a large scale racial war of black versus white. At one point, Napoleon committed 60,000 troops to Leclerc’s efforts. Before the French could retake the island, England declared war on France in 1803, so access to naval transport was reduced. Napoleon had been preparing his forces located in the Netherlands for a North American campaign. A temporary truce allowed the bulk of the soldiers to be removed. Leclerc withdrew to Tortuga. At that point, Napoleon sold Louisiana to the united States. The Leclerc expedition was partly financed by none other then Stephen Girard.
War of 1812: Role of the French
The Role of the French in the War of 1812
By Jeffrey D. Murrah
Two aspects of the Battle of New Orleans often marginalized are those of the roles played by the French, and the Guitterez-Magee expedition in that action. Even the national parks website carries no mention of these groups. Since I dealt with the Guitterez-Magee when I previously spoke to this group, today we will look at the role of the French.
There is a popular saying that often provides clues to unraveling political events. The saying “Follow the Money” often leads to some unlikely places. If one follows the money for the War of 1812, where does it lead? Who stood to gain from the war and for what reason? It is also of interest that in other parts of the world, the "War of 1812" is referred to the Second War for Independence", yet in the United States, it is called the 'War of 1812'.
A Frenchman, Steven Girard, provided the bulk of the financing for the War of 1812. When the United States had it first national bank (Bank of the United States), he invested in it. When that bank ceased to exist in 1811, he purchased its assets, hired its officers and resumed its business.It was bad enough that the bank had been used to create inflation in the young nation. Despite being required to only issue money that was backed by gold and silver, the bank lent $6.2 million out on loans that it only had $2 million in specie to cover which led to some economic issues. When the charter of the bank expired, it was thought that problems were over.
It was through his bank in Philadelphia that Girard financed the war. At one point, the young nation needed money, but only had $20,000 available in credit. Girard advanced the government 5 million dollars. Since governments can not fight wars without money, having access to these funds allowed the war to continue as long as it did.
Girard maintained a strong hatred of the British ever since his days of sailing a French merchant vessel and having to deal with the British blockade. He had lived in the United States since 1776, knowing full well how what the British were like. He maintained strong loyalties to the French cause, naming his ships after French philosophers and assisting French military campaigns, including the Leclerc's campaign to Haiti. He also maintained strong business connections in the city of New Orleans. He was by no means a Christian, yet exemplified the spirit of charitable giving and philanthropy.
Are there any other ‘French Connections’ associated with the war?
Before answering that question, it is important to consider the context of world events in that period. The War of 1812 began as America’s response to high-handed British policies regarding trade on the high seas. At that time, Britain attempted ruling the seas and maintaining a blockade of all French ports. This prevented American goods from getting to market and French goods from leaving the country. Such a blockade threatened free trade. American merchants wanted the freedom to trade with whom they wished. Americans needed trade for their young nation, to allow it the capital needed for growth, so a war was declared. This was also America’s first declared war.
The war’s first year lead to America loosing Detroit, the Michigan territory and failing to capture to capture Quebec. The war on land seemed to be filled with disasters. The same year Washington was burned by the British, and the Russians burned Moscow to prevent it from falling into Napoleon’s hands. Much like Napoleon’s Russian campaign met with defeat, America failed in its efforts at invading Canada.
As the war continued, America faced threats from Britain and its recent ally, Spain. This is one of the few times the two nations of England and Spain worked as allies. The situation was aggravated by Andrew Jackson’s seizure of Pensacola in Spanish Florida. In 1814, the Spanish agent in New Orleans expressed concerned that so many ‘enemies of Spain’ were still in the city. Even though the city was now property of the united States, Spain maintained a spy network there. Spain was still on high alert after the episode of Guiterrez-Magee expedition and the Hidalgo revolution episodes. America has been unable to keep its citizens from venturing into Spanish lands, despite threats from the government to prevent them from doing so. Spain had reason for concern, since the united States had provided aid and assistance to the Guiterrez-Magee expedition.
A former Vice-President of the United States, Aaron Burr, was arrested while leading his own personal expedition to Texas. Burr had secured thousands of acres in Texas from Baron de Bastrop. He had raised a group of 'armed' farmers to go with him and work the land. Prior to arriving in Texas, he was intercepted and arrested.
Former President Thomas Jefferson publicly stated that Texas will be the richest state in the Union, which inspired more expeditions. The success of Lewis and Clark made others eager to expand the American frontier. President Madison’s administration pursued a policy of mixed messages toward New Spain. Madison’s administration met with the leaders of the Guiterrez-Magee expedition, and introduced them to delegates from other nations, yet officially did not condone the actions of the expedition. They had sent orders to Zebulon Pike to intentionally veer off course to the south and explore some of the Spanish lands. Unofficially, the Madison administration supported some expeditions, yet officially they speak out against them. Such mixed messages confused those adventurers who wished to set up in Texas.
The recent independence movements in New Spain were considered uprisings which were promptly put down by Spanish authorities. Many in Mexico wished for all Europeans to be expelled as the Monroe doctrine advocated, others wished to form a State on the basis of French type liberties. These influences created a volatile mixture of nationalism and race that threatened the whole of Mexico.
The American and French revolutions inspired many with hopes of a government ‘of the people’ rather than by a monarch. The Hidalgo revolution used a tri-colored banner of red, white and green patterned after those used by the French. Since French ideals are alien to those of the Spanish kings, they are considered a threat. The Spanish were also highly suspicious of many persons, since one of their main spies had been transferred out of the city of New Orleans (James Wilkinson). The Hidalgo revolution is still simmering in Mexico, with one of its leaders, Peter Ellis Bean forming an alliance with the French veteran, Jean Lafitte.
Britain hoped that with the culmination of another of its long wars with France, that it could bring its veteran troops from Europe to America.
In the aftermath of the first Napoleonic threat, the remnants of French forces earlier sent to the Caribbean flowed into New Orleans. Some Imperial French soldiers saw the writing on the wall, and chose to leave the country rather than face harsh treatment by the kings who had returned to power in France during Napolean's first ouster.
Many French soldiers who participated in the Leclerc expedition to Haiti eventually found themselves in New Orleans, since the British blockade prevented their return to France. Many of the veterans wished to go home, but were unable to do so due to the British blockade. Since New Orleans was considered friendly to the French and was civilized, many of the French veterans began gathering there.
These and other French soldiers participated in what New Orleans residents then called “the Battle”.
To fully understand “the Battle” requires a knowledge of French, Irish, American, Mexican and Texas histories. It is in the blending of them, that one fully understands some of the events that transpired.
The Guiterrez-Magee expedition had recently been chased out of New Spain, after a briefly declaring the Republic of Texas. Its veterans filled the cities of New Orleans, Louisiana, Natchitoches, Louisiana and Natchez, Mississippi. These experienced veterans were eager and willing to fight. There were Europeans, Americans, Tejanos and Indians among them, including the young Juan Seguin. Many also wanted to return to Texas for another expedition. They were betrayed by a British agent, with some of them having wives and children still being subjected to abuse and ethnic cleansing in Texas. The betrayal by the British agent did not engender a love for the British by these frontiersmen.
What seemed to be a ‘backwoods army’ contains many experienced French commanders trained in artillery, and military siege procedures. Napoleon and his artillerymen were the best available in the world at that time. These were men trained at the university level, not OTJ in the military bases. These veteran French soldiers were eager for a chance to get back at the British. Many of the other “volunteers” were veterans of fighting in Texas, Florida, Haiti, Mexico or South American liberation movements. They were essentially 19th century mercenaries in terms of being professional soldiers.
The Hidalgo movement was out recruiting military talent in its revolution. They sent Peter Ellis Bean to New Orleans in order to obtain recruits and supplies. Bean had a long history as an adventurer and was wanted by Spanish authorities for his numerous prison escapes. He just happened to arrive in the city as action began taking place. He gave instructions to artillery officers on how to construct furnaces so as to supply hot shot.
Now that the context and background are clear, what are the other French connections?
It was trained Frenchmen who planned, designed and built the defensive works at Chalmette (the location near New Orleans where the battle of New Orleans was fought).
General Jean Victor Marie Moreau selected the location in Louisiana to fortify. The position forced the attacking British forces into a bottleneck. He was former commander of the Army of the Rhine under Napoleon. He was experienced in the ways of war and what was needed to defend one’s position and the latest technology to do so. His military experience provided an edge to the defensive position of the American forces.
Major Lacarriere Latour supervised defensive works construction at Chalmette. He was trained as an engineer architect. He was saved as an orphan by the Marquis de Lafayette. Besides laying out the defensive line, he also designed some parts of the City of New Orleans and founded Baton Rouge. After the battle, he went with Lafitte to meet with President Madison concerning the reimbursement for their services and losses in the battle.
Who manned the guns?
-It was trained Frenchmen who manned, directed and commanded many of the artillery batteries.
Renato Beluche a favorite admiral of Simon Bolivar. Involved in the Venezuela independence movement around 1810. Beluche had a reputation as a smuggler who joined with Lafitte brothers. A Frenchman born in New Orleans and by vocation a wig maker. Commanded the 4th Battery.
Dominique You served in the French military in the wars of the Republic. Came with General Leclerc to Haiti in the Caribbean campaign as an artillery officer. Their mission was to quiet Toussant L’Overture’s slave revolt. Later joined with the Lafitte brothers in their privateering. Fought against Spain when Venezuela declared its independence. He was often called “Captain Dominique”. He commanded the 3rd Battery during the Battle of New Orleans.
General Garrigues de Flageac- Veteran of Napoleonic Wars in Italy, where he was an infantry commander. Veteran of the Leclerc campaign. Assisted with the artillery at the Battle of New Orleans commanding the 7th Battery. Was reportedly the first to fire a canon at the British. During the Napoleonic Wars, he was captured by the British. Although released later, he continued nursing a grudge toward them.
Where there any other French connections?
Jean Lafitte-Rumored to be one of Napoleon’s Lieutenants. Upon arrival in New Orleans opened a fencing school. Fencing was a sport of military trained gentlemen (e.g. officers). His fellow Frenchmen and adventurers in Barataria assisted Jackson in the Battle of New Orleans directly and by providing the flints needed for their rifles.
Fleury Generelly. A veteran of the Leclerc/St. Domingo campaign. A former Hussar who served in the French revolution and early Napoleonic Wars.
Nicholas Girod-Frenchman, served as mayor of New Orleans. He was inaugurated to the office in French, since he spoke no English. It is said, he bled red, white and blue due to the French tricolor, not the American flag. An ardent Bonapartist. Even after the war, he was a major player in efforts at transporting Napoleon from St. Helena to New Orleans.
Tullius de St. Ceran a French veteran in the battle. A street in New Orleans is named after him. Also a poet who wrote about the battle.
General Jean Joseph Amable Humbert. A French General who led a campaign that culminated in the invasion of Ireland in 1798. British oppression of the Irish people led to revolts throughout the island. France responded by sending troops under Humbert to assist. After being captured, the French troops were treated as prisoners of war. The Irish were summarily rounded up and shot. He is held as a hero in Ireland, with statues and historical trails named in his honor. After being defeated by Cornwallis in Ireland, he was sent as part of General Leclerc’s campaign against Haiti. He was made governor of Port-Au-Prince. Humbert’s invasion of Ireland gave him a reputation for daring and courage.
Thanked by Jackson with “exposed himself to the greatest danger with his characteristic bravery”.
The British sent a party to Jean Lafitte's headquarters at Barataria in 1814 asking for assistance. After being refused, they raided the camp, taking many of the remaining residents prisoners. (note: unlike militia, where you could easily conscript someone to carry out assigned tasks., men who were experienced sailors possessed skills that were needed by the British). Their hostility served to push any wavering privateers into alliance with the Americans. The British landed between 11,000 and 14,000 seasoned troops in their bid to take the war to America. The British troops were veterans of the Peninsula campaign. The American side had between 3,500 and 5,000 men. In the Battle, which occurred after the war officially ended, they experienced 2000 casualties, while those on the American side were eight killed and thirteen wounded. The defensive line of the Americans was judged to be “impenetrable” after several assaults by British troops failed to breach it.
When word of the British defeat at New Orleans arrived in Europe, Napoleon had just returned from exile in Elba and had arrived in Cannes, France. The news encouraged Napoleon, who then swiftly journeyed to Paris.
So Frenchmen provided the funding, artillery expertise, manpower, naval support and fortification expertise that allowed the American forces to triumph in the War of 1812 at New Orleans. American soldiers were sheltered behind fortifications designed and built by Frenchmen, they were using ammunition provided by Frenchmen, and many of their artillery batteries were commanded by French trained officers. The war was bankrolled by a Frenchman when the American government lacked the credit to fight a war. Despite these facts, the credit for this victory has been attributed to American troops and American commanders. The discovery of the prominent role of the French prompts new questions. Why has this information been kept out of the public sphere? How would this knowledge change the way people look at American history? Who benefits from this information being kept out of the public sphere? If the French were given credit for the key role they played in the War of 1812 and the Battle of New Orleans, then many myths about American superiority are suspect.
Presented to the Veterans of War of 1812, Houston, Texas 10 April 2006
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Bug Mee,
Thank you. The people I first shared the presentation with also enjoyed it. I hope to share other histories here on hubpages.
where did native americans get their weapons from?
where did native americans get their weapons from?
Sarah,
Many native Americans obtained their weapons from the French, whereas the British often tried to curtail the trade in weapons. During the American war for Secession, (aka American Revolution) many American weapons and supplies came from the Spanish after Galvez captured New Orleans and Baton Rogue in combination with George Rogers Clark capturing Vincennes. Those maneuvers allowed supplies to flow up the Mississippi and Ohio to the colonies since the British mainained a blockade of the eastern seaboard.
what role did france play in causing the war of 1812
mimis,
The short answer is "I don't know". As a historian, my are of expertise is that of Texas and Texas related historic subjects. The causes of the War of 1812 are many. In terms of world politics, Britain and France were at odds with each other. Britain viewed the American States as a threat to her naval dominance of the world. Some of the American States wanted to invade and take over Canada, along with the problem of mercantilsim that was threatening the ability of the American States to engage in international commerce. These were some of the factors.
In terms of the role of France, there are several things to consider. There were many French soldiers still in the Caribbean due to British embargos on the area. The Caribbean was a major source of revenue for the British at that time. The French wanted someone to attack Britain and reduce the military pressure then on her. The American States had supported some of the slave uprisings against the British with money and weapons. Whether or not it was done under the influence of French agents is not known. Britian was also at work to keep the American States from expanding to the west coast and had several agents in Texas at work to keep the American States from acquiring Texas.
The Spanish were also a factor in that they had hired some of the French soldiers to serve as mercenaries to harras the British holdings in the Americas.
Since there were many behind the scenes activities, the roleof the French in causing the war may never be clear. What is clear is that the War was financed by a Frenchman, and that the French played a major role in portions of the conflict. The war also served to 'unite' the American States into an 'American Nation". The spin on the war was that it defined "America", and the role of the French is often downplayed. Even today, if you visit Chalmette battlefield, you will find the role of the French in the battle downplayed.
What about the role of the first nations in the war of 1812?
Bir,
I am not sure who you are referring to as 'the first nations'. In my article, the focus was on the role of the French. Other nations were involved in the conflict as well. It is curious that the role of the French is either ignored or downplayed as it pertains to events. Since my area of knowledge focuses more specifically on Texas history, I look at how those events in Texas and the United States interplayed with each other.
Very interesting read, that I missed when you first published it, probably because I wasn't on hubpages yet. I once read in an out-of-print book, probably in Houma, Louisiana a French version of these events, if I come across the name of it and location I'll send it along to you. Some of the information came from the Gazeta de Madrid, published at the time in New Orleans. My French ancestor, Jean Marie Navarre participated in the War of 1812, is is listed as one of the applicants from that war for a State pension. Many Acadians supported that war and participated in it.
Jerilee Wee,
Thank you for your contribution. I would be interested in the book. Much of the information that I used in putting the hub together came from out of print and rare books. It was an interesting war in Louisiana. I wish more people were studying it.
I wrote myself a note on that, and it'll surface, just don't know when. I think you'll find articles and publications at the genalogical societies in South Louisiana. I'd be looking at what the members of the Terrebonne Genealogical Society might know, some of them are very helpful.
Jerilee,
Thank you for getting back. I will check that out.
fantastic hub, I found it very interesting indeed.
London Girl,
It is good to hear from your again. I am sure that events such as the War of 1812 was presented very different in England. It fascinates me how events can often look so different depending on perspective of the nations involved.
We aren't particularly into it, really - the American War of Independence is the biggie, and after that, we don't pay much attention until the American Civil War (-:
London Girl,
That is very interesting. There has been more evidence coming out lately about British Foreign Service agents at work in Spanish and Mexican Texas to prevent its annexation by the United States.Britian was very active in Texas and the United States at that time. It was the only war where Washington D.C. was captured and burned (ironically the same year that Napoleaon captured Moscow).
To read the United States history books, in the War of 1812, the fledgling US stood up to the world superpower of Britain. The war is portrayed as the coming out party of the US to take its place at the table of nations. The war is used to convey the idea that the US proved itself to the world.
During the days of the Republic of Texas, the Texas Navy often found iteself fighting against British sailors which manned the ships of the Mexican Navy. It just surprises me that little is mention about it.
I find the treatment of that period fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
During that period, there was a lot going on closer to home - the Napoleonic Wars, in particular. The battle of Waterloo in 1815 was the ending of that era, with a bang rather than a whimper, so that tends to be what we concentrate on.
If you are interested in history, perhaps have a look at my historical hubs?
At school we studied the American War of Independence, and the American Civil War (do you call those by the same names?) and in passing the Monroe Doctrine, and that was about it.
London Girl,
I will investigate your hubs. You have already roused my interest.
The Battle of Waterloo was a biggie. I visited there and enjoyed it. After having been to other military battlefields, I was surprised that it was not better marked though.
The American War of Independence is at times called the Amercian Revolution or the War of Secession depending on where you are in the United States. As to the other war, there is great debate on what it is called. In the South it is called various names. The War for Southern Independence, The War of Northern Aggression, The Constitutional War, The Second American War of Independence, or the War between the States. It is a misnomer to call it "Civil War" due to the issues involved. The Southern Nation was not trying to overthrow the North, only to leave it. It was a war between two bona fide nations which puts it into another category. By the North calling it a "civil war", they relegate it to a sectional strife akin to putting down the IRA in Northern Ireland.
The Monroe Doctrine was a bold move to keep European nations from out of the Americas (so that the United States could take them over for itself). Despite the Monroe Doctrine, European nations were often at work in Americas. Being a Texan, my knowledge is more focused on that area. Texas befriended Britian, and maintained an embassy in London. The United States worked feverishly against that friendship along with the relationship developed between the Republic of Texas and France as well, often citing the Monroe Doctrine as the basis for its meddling in the affairs of the Republic of Texas.
Was it you who wrote about visiting the Texan embassy when in London? A read a hub a while ago in which a hubber had done exactly that.
The site of Waterloo is interesting. Did you see the commemerative hill?
London Girl,
It probably was me who wrote about that in my Texan's things to see in London. I did climb to the top of the commemorative hill (complete with the Lion). The view is wonderful. The plaques that showed troop locations needed some repairs, but from reading the history of the battle, I could make out many of the key landmarks. I also saw the church which Wellington used as his headquarters during the battle. It is so hard to believe that the fate of Europe was settled on those farmlands surrounding the hill.
I went a few years ago with my brother and parents (can't remember where my sisters were, off doing something else, I suppose!)
It was fascinating. We also went up the hill, and it seems so peaceful now.
London Girl,
It is a fascinating place. I agree with your observation of peacefulness. Many writers talk about hallowed ground in association with battlefields. I have experienced that at Waterloo, Shiloh, Vicksburg and Gettysburg. People often do not fully comprehend how these battles hung in the balance and how they shaped history.
The Duke of Wellington is supposed to have described the Battle as "a damn close run thing".....
LondonGirl,
He chose his words well. The victory was hard fought and was close, VERY close.
Yup - but in this case, a miss is as good as a mile (-:
Wellington was a great soldier, but didn't make much of a politician.
Hi, I came across your writings today while searching for information on Renato Beluche who commanded the 3rd battery at the Battle of New Orleans with Dominque You. Beluche is my son-in-law's 4th great grandfather, and I am researching his genealogy for the future benefit of my three grandchildren. I have found a number of sources that indicate Dominique You was an alias for Alexandre Lafitte, brother of Jean & Pierre Lafitte. Do you have any information on that possibility. Also, the historian, Robert V. Remini on page 28 of his 1999 book - The Battle of New Orleans writes that Renato Beluche was a second cousin to the Lafitte brothers, and that they called him - "Uncle." Any info on those possible facts? Thanks,
Ernie Wentrcek
Bryan, Texas
Ernie,
Thanks for stopping by. I would not doubt tha there were more Lafitte relatives. I do not have the kind of information you are looking for, although there was a book that came out recently on the Lafitte brothers and their time in Texas. Here is a webpage with Lafitte lineage.
War between the USA and Britain caused by British interference with US trade (shipping) as part of the economic warfare against Napoleonic France. Tensions with the British in Canada led to plans for a US invasion but these were never realized and success was limited to the capture of Detroit and a few notable naval victories.
In 1814 British forces occupied Washington DC and burned the White House and the Capitol. A treaty signed in Ghent, Belgium, December 1814 ended the conflict.
US sailors were impressed from American ships, and a blockade was imposed on US shipping by Britain. In North America, British assistance was extended to Indians. President Madison authorized the beginning of hostilities against the British on the high seas and in Canada; US forces failed twice in attempts to invade British-held Canada. After the peace treaty had been signed in Ghent, but before news of it reached the USA, American troops under Andrew Jackson defeated the British at New Orleans 1815.
Darkside,
Thank you for your addition. You provided a succinct synopsis of the accepted version of the war. In researching events associated with the war, I encountered some oddities. This hub represents some of the oddities that I encountered. Facts are a weird thing. It may be coincidence that the United States supported the expedition/invasion of New Spain by Augustus Magee about the time the war started. It may be coincidence that the US ran out of money and could not continue the war, without the assistance of the French. It could be coincidence that the military know how of the French made the victory at New Orleans possible. It could be coincidence that there was open hostility between the French and British at that time that may have been a factor. If these are coincidences, I find it funny that most accepted histories either downplay or dismiss them.
There are still many things to learn from the war and its role in history.
Thank you again for being part of that discussion.
how did the french benefit from the war of 1812
Excellent question! My best guesses (and these are speculation) is that they benefited in a several ways. 1) The functional Bank of the United States with its debts and assets was owned by a Frenchman. The United States owed him money to pay back those debts. Bankers gain money and control from such debts. Such a debt insured some European meddling in US affairs. 2) The British stranglehold on the seas was threatened by a new rising nation (the United States). By keeping Britain and the United States in opposition to each other, the French were allowed a free hand in many affairs around the world. With the Spanish world empire crumbling, someone would have to fill the vacuum. 3) It raised French hopes that Napoleon could be returned from St. Helena. One of the major centers for a plan to bring him to North America was in the city of New Orleans. With improved French fortunes, it became a possibility.
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Bug Mee says:
2 years ago
Strong History Lesson, thanks!