The Great Irish Famine
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"...In October, 1846, Trevelyan wrote that the overpopulation of Ireland "being altogether beyond the power of man, the cure has been applied by the direct stroke of an all-wise Providence in a manner as unexpected and as unthought of as it is likely to be effectual." Two years later after perhaps a million people had died, he wrote, "The matter is awfully serious, but we are in the hands of Providence, without a possibility of averting the catastrophe if it is to happen. We can only wait the result." Later that year Trevelyan declared: "The great evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people." (36.) In 1848 Trevelyan was knighted for his services in Ireland..."
(Tell me that doesn't sound like the Republican commentary on transitional benefits. - Iðunn)
"... James Wilson, the Editor of the British publication, The Economist, responded to Irish pleas for assistance during the famine by saying, "It is no man's business to provide for another." He thought it was wrong for officials to reallocate scarce resources, since "If left to the natural law of distribution, those who deserve more would obtain it."
Wilson's statements echo those of Thomas Malthus, a political economist who died in 1834. In his most influential work, "Essay on the Principle of Population", he wrote:
"If he cannot get sustenance from his parents, on whom he has a just demand, and if society does not want his labor, he has no claim of right to the smallest portion of food and, in fact, has no business to be where he is." ..."
(Social Darwinism, might makes Right - Iðunn)
"...In December, 1848, Cholera began to spread through many of the overcrowded workhouses, pauper hospitals, and crammed jails in Ireland. On April 26th, 1849, Lord Clarendon wrote to Prime Minister Russell: "...it is enough to drive one mad, day after day, to read the appeals that are made and meet them all with a negative...At Westport, and other places in Mayo, they have not a shilling to make preparations for the cholera, but no assistance can be given, and there is no credit for anything, as all our contractors are ruined. Surely this is a state of things to justify you asking the House of Commons for an advance, for I don't think there is another legislature in Europe that would disregard such suffering as now exists in the west of Ireland, or coldly persist in a policy of extermination." No advance was granted...
... The lead story in the August 30th, 1847 edition of the English newspaper, the Times said, "In no other country have men talked treason until they are hoarse, and then gone about begging for sympathy from their oppressors. In no other country have the people been so liberally and unthriftily helped by the nation they denounced and defied."
In another edition: "They are going. They are going with a vengeance. Soon a Celt will be as rare in Ireland as a Red Indian on the streets of Manhattan...Law has ridden through, it has been taught with bayonets, and interpreted with ruin. Townships levelled to the ground, straggling columns of exiles, workhouses multiplied, and still crowded, express the determination of the Legislature to rescue Ireland from its slovenly old barbarism, and to plant there the institutions of this more civilized land."
The dominant economic theory in mid-nineteenth century Britain was laissez-faire (meaning: 'let be'), which held that it was not a government's job to provide aid for its citizens, or to interfere with the free market of goods or trade...
..."The Corn Laws, an exception to the doctrine of laissez-faire, laid down that large taxes had to be paid on any foreign crops brought into Britain. This kept grain prices high, and the British traders would lose profits if the laws were repealed" (22.) Since the Act of Union made Ireland legally a part of the United Kingdom, its corn crop could be moved to England without incurring the tax. However, corn crops brought into Ireland to relieve the famine could be taxed.
Prime Minister Peel pushed through a repeal of the Corn Laws in 1846. This split the Tory Party and Peel was forced to resign. In a powerful speech to Parliament he said, "Good God, are you to sit in cabinet and consider and calculate how much diarrhea, and bloody flux, and dysentery a people can bear before it becomes necessary for you to provide them with food?" ...
... Cecil Woodham-Smith, considered the preeminent authority on the Irish Famine, wrote in The Great Hunger; Ireland 1845-1849 that, "...no issue has provoked so much anger or so embittered relations between the two countries (England and Ireland) as the indisputable fact that huge quantities of food were exported from Ireland to England throughout the period when the people of Ireland were dying of starvation."
"Although the potato crop failed, the country was still producing and exporting more than enough grain crops to feed the population. But that was a 'money crop' and not a 'food crop' and could not be interfered with." ...
... "The census commissioners calculated that, at the normal rate of increase, the total should have been 9,018,799 so the loss of at least 2.5 million persons had taken place."...
... After mass starvation, death, eviction, and large scale emigration, the British Census Commisioners proclaimed in 1851 that Ireland benefited from the Famine:
"In conclusion, we feel it will be gratifying to your Excellency to find that although the population has been diminished in so remarkable a manner by famine, disease and emigration between 1841 and 1851, and has been since decreasing, the results of the Irish census of 1851 are, on the whole, satisfactory, demonstrating as they do the general advancement of the country." (47.) ..."
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maybe it's just me, but...
...doesn't this sound a lot like actions and statements of the American right? While even our Depression could never match the devastation of The Great Famine, I find the general approaches and attitudes of Great Britain toward occupied Ireland to be identical to that of politicians, Big Business and the GOP towards Ameica's poor. If there is a difference in philosophy, I don't see it.
The British said pretty much the same thing, implying a need for personal responsibility on the part of the Irish while overlooking that their Penal Laws, denuding of the trees off the soil, and exhorbent fees and rents (among a vast number of other abuses) created the situation of lack of usuable and overfarmed land for the Irish in the first place. Again, only the DOWNTRODDEN are required to be responsible for the consequences of their choices, not those in power who unfailingly choose not to recognize their part in it.
The American equivalent... outsourcing, off-shoring, downsizing, mergers, cutting benefits, union-busting, viewing the American worker as a cost of production and doing everything possible to minimize that "cost".
When big business and stock holders take responsibility for THOSE actions, then they can start worrying about the beam in the poors' eye.
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free market, indeed.
"...The inadequacy of relief efforts by the British Government worsened the horrors of the potato famine. Initially, England believed that the free market would end the famine. In 1846, in a victory for advocates of free trade, Britain repealed the Corn Laws, which protected domestic grain producers from foreign competition. The repeal of the Corn Laws failed to end the crisis since the Irish lacked sufficient money to purchase foreign grain.
In the spring of 1847, Britain adopted other measures to cope with the famine, setting up soup kitchens and programs of emergency work relief. But many of these programs ended when a banking crisis hit Britain. In the end, Britain relied largely on a system of work houses, which had originally been established in 1838, to cope with the famine. But these grim institutions had never been intended to deal with a crisis of such sweeping scope. Some 2.6 million Irish entered overcrowded workhouses, where more than 200,000 people died.
The Irish Potato Famine left as its legacy deep and lasting feelings of bitterness and distrust toward the British. Far from being a natural disaster, many Irish were convinced that the famine was a direct outgrowth of British colonial policies. In support of this contention, they noted that during the famine's worst years, many Anglo-Irish estates continued to export grain and livestock to England..."
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Genocide?
"...in 1851 the actual population was 6.6 million...Modern historians and statisticians estimate that between 500,000 and 1,500,000 died.
In addition, in excess of one million Irish emigrated to the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and elsewhere, while more than one million emigrated over following decades; by 1911, a combination of emigration and an abnormally high number of unmarried men and women in the population, had reduced the population of Ireland to 4.4 million.
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"As no Jewish person would ever refer to the "Jewish Oxygen Famine of 1939 - 1945", so no Irish person ought ever refer to the Irish Holocaust as a famine."
"...Potato blight, "phytophthora infestans", did spread from America to Europe in 1844, to England and then Ireland in 1845 but it didn't cause famine anywhere. Ireland did not starve for potatoes; it starved for food.
Ireland starved because its food, from 40 to 70 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint by 12,000 British constables reinforced by the British militia, battleships, excise vessels, Coast Guard and by 200,000 British soldiers (100,000 at any given moment) The attached map shows the never-before-published names and locations in Ireland of the food removal regiments (Disposition of the Army; Public Record Office, London; et al, of which we possess photocopies). Thus, Britain seized from Ireland's producers tens of millions of head of livestock; tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry & dairy products; enough to sustain 18 million persons..."
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I worry too and hope to see this november election turn the tide... I'm probably way too optimistic.
I see a lot of reasonable people (economic lefts) here though, along with the usual rightwingz.
not sure if most americanz realize, but even the rightwingz in europe would be considered left by the GOP types here, so maybe it's the international flavor of hubz that makes them feel more reasonable to me.
I started reading and half way through I had to leave. It's really interesting finding out details of history through someone elses background. Suffering and the willing to remain preferrably ignorant to solutions to our problems has always been a thread in our society. There is no ethical reason any country should have people who starve and or homeless. America has had a huge hand in the reason for many of the worlds deficits and shortcomings, no matter it's many advantages whether admitted or not. No wonder every other country hates them. Even with the good leadership we have experiences their influence is temporary. It is apparent to me something greater than us (what that is I dunno) needs to intervene.
that's why, like Constance Markiewicz and Dorothy Day, I became a Catholic.
It's fine for me to flap my little Frozen Sparrow wings and try to achieve some good, but I suspect I'm going to need a lot of help to even be able to watch the world the way it is now, much less try to effect change.
this page is history and kevin toolis says that for the Irish, history is an illness. the thing is, none of the past 30 years of war in the North make sense without having knowledge of why it came to that.
on the U.S., I agree. it's painful and horrible to watch us descend back to the robber-baron era and see decent hard-working working-class people destroyed through no fault of their own. but what makes it even worse is to have the people who steal the value of the labor of their hands, blame them while they watch them flounder. bah
the truth is none of us can really do much, but we can treat the people around us well and we can vote our conscience and we can stand up for what is right when we find ourselves in a situation that it can make a difference. that's all I do and ya, it doesn't feel like enough, but I suppose it has to be.
thanks so much for reading... I know the politics are generally out of your interest. that was sweet of you to stop in, nightflower.
wow, I haven't thought things in this much depth you are really talented, please do us all a favor and keep up the beautiful writing. My writing skills are weak.
like everyone else I have my areas of interest. thanks for taking the time to read.
My great granmother told stories about the famine. I remember setting and listening to them when I was a child. Great Hub here.
thanks for taking the time to read~
People are people, even the average Brit. What is it in their ruling class that allows these horrors to occur? They starved 750,000 German civilians in the first war during the Naval Blockade in the winter of 1917. How are these things kept low profile in the history books? The U.S. is killing its poor from neglect. Lack of health insurance for all in the supposed rich land of the world boggles the imagination and disturbs it.
the winds might be changing. read today that a GOP Senator brought up the outrage of CEO salaries, Bernanke who is chairman of the Fed is restricting some of the power of the two major real estate players to make shit decisions, and public outrage over Bush's cuts to VA care resulting in the Walter Reed scandal shows no sign of abating to the point that even Republicans are trying to fake being concerned. I think the period of greed without consequences that has been going on from Reagan on is going to be at least slightly curtailed for a bit. Odds on for a Dem president next and that can only be an improvement, however slight.
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Drax says:
3 years ago
and people wonder why we still have a hatred of the British.. alas I have to agree with you about the attitudes to the poor in the US. To an extent this is mirrored here on Hubpages where people turn away from any distateful subject involving their government. In Ireland we call this 'cap in hand', in the days of the old landlords the peasants were expected to stand cap in hand and pay obesiance. I saw this bowing to authority even in my own father, his was the last generation ever to pay.
As someone not from here I can see the deterioration in the physical infrastructure and in the living conditions of poorer people. The minimum wage, the disgraceful manipulation of the CPI, draconian legislation heralded in the name of freedom, government violence. This country is so far to the Right of the Constitution that it is dangerous.
and from Thomas Jefferson - When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
...there is little liberty left in America....