Hello guys, it's me, João Jerónimo, and I think we should end all this crap about americans being or not the best of the world and having or not reasons to be proud of being americans.

It really got dirty; First funnebone made a hub with an very ofending title to Europeans, and I felt I couldn't leave it like that, so I made a hub that was exactly the oposite of funnebone's hub. No one liked it, but in the end people agreed on what I wanted them to agree: US is not the best country in the world, as every country, US has it's flaws.

Some people say I wanted 15 minutes of fame (like funnebone), others say I'm really anti-american and really hate the US for some reasons (these vary from jealousy to suffering because of living in Maputo), and others make fun of me and tell the most absurd things.

This is all nonsense.

I wrote that hub to be the exact opposite of funnebone's hub. If funnebone's hub said "Europeans can kiss my red white and blue" and make people think that the US is the best country of the world, mine was meant to say the exact opposite, except I never insulted americans telling them to kiss anyone's ass.

I am not anti-america and I don't hate America or Americans. I have more to do than to think if I'm in favour or against the US. I'm not even a politician, I'm a student. I don't have to think about these questions, there are people in charge of doing that.

It's true that I hate somethings about the US, but those are things between the US and other countries. What goes inside the US is none of my business. I'm not even going to tell what I dislike in the US, just not to start any other discussion.

Mozambique is not how many people painted here. It's a great place to live. My parents' have a nice income, I have my own maids and a driver, I go everyday to my very nice school that is very well equipped with computers, wireless networks, projectors in every classroom, and with very nice and well qualified teachers. I eat well in my home, there are actually cars in the streets. Of course it has poverty, like every country does, but again, it has also very nice places to live and very nice things to do, like every country does. Painting that poor image of Mozambique was foolish, specially because just wasn't on trial on all those discussions. I'm going to a university in Portugal, and perhaps I'll do a post-graduation course in England, but after that I want to come back to my home town and live happily here.

Yep, some people just couldn't stop there, and someday I just got in the hub and had comments with hub addresses, one from oberbreckling and one from hoverdawg72.

What were this hubs about ?

oberbreckling's hub

He just decided to make fun of my home town and my family. He drawn a nasty image of my family and thought it was funny.

Then he just spammed my hub with addresses to his hub with things like this:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Facts-about-Joaos-home-town-of-Maputo-Mozambique

more on joao's home life the way he lives the way he grew up check it out it's very interesting to see what kind of life him and his family must live.it's just a terrible thing how bitter you are to someone lending a hand buddy

It got really sad to see what he was doing. It really got childish, but he closed the hub after appearing on HubPages' front page and getting some attention.

hoverdawg72's hub

On this other side, hoverdawg72 was trying to restart the discussion that reached an agreement. He tried at all cost to start everything again, but I refused to read his hub and participate in it, because, as I explained several times, that discussion had already been had and people reached an agreement. He used to just pretend I didn't explain that and tease me to get in the discussion. He insulted me in his hub and then said he didn't insult me or made fun of me, and that he only wanted me to stand up and explain myself. I also did that way before he published the hub.

The really sad thing

Given to the fact that the discussion had ended some days before and hoverdawg72 wanted to restart it so badly and even posted a link to his hub with a tracker, I think he only wanted to make some bucks with adsense because he knew he would have some attention.

On the other hand, oberbreckling's attempt to make fun of me and my family was really childish and it made him look bad specially after he spammed my hub. I left his spam comments there so I could laugh at him, and that's what I did.

The 3 hubs (mine, oberbreckling's and hoverdawg72's) got on HubPages' first page, in the "Hot Hubs" list.

Although all of this was really sad, there were some good things in all of this. I really got some nice comments in my hub, for instance this one from Hexxor:

There are serious reasons to dislike USA. One of the reasons is its lack of democracy. The real wielders of power within the united States are the big capitalists and the military-industrial complex. They pay big money to the television networks to promote their president of choise. "The richest always win".

United States today is a two party state. It is not very different to a one party state in the sense that the political ideology are nearly the same between the two parties.

There is little pluralism in the political system of United States.

Independently of wich president is chosen, the wars will continue, the torture will continue, The reach for global domination by the United States will continue, the NATOfication of the world will continue. The IMF and the World bank will continue to empoverish nations, the CIA will continue to interfere in the domestic affairs of foreign nations, secret murders, secret bribes, secret everything really...

CIA will never be accountable in any United States court for all of its evils.

Before United States decides it want to wage war against a nation, the president and staff usually stir up the media in order to prepare the United State people mentally for going to war. The media accomplicity in this is quite unresponsible.

All of those evils will continue and the "people" the greater amount of "americans" will not be able to stop those very evils.

The other reason to dislike United States is because they do evil in the world. One of these evil it the willful empoverishing of undeveloped nations. There are three instruments to do this: the IMF, the World bank and the WTO. The World bank give loans to nations in order to create a foreign debts that nations will not be able to pay back. The IMF is the intrument of choise for this, its a dual faced organization. In order for this mechanism tro work perfectly there is a need for a "traitor" agent. The "traitor" agent in this case are the economists raised and educated by the various Catholic Universities in Latin America. Their method of work can be described as such: "steal from the poor to give to the rich".

Today United States Corporations get raw materials for free from Latin America while the various nations are still paying the foregin debt. The measures taken by those nation proposed by the IMF are such that they cannot pay the foreign debt, so they are forced to pay back the debt by "selling off" raw materials such as copper ore, gold ore, and other minerals.

Other evils that undeveloped nations have done is to privatise the national owned industries, thus empoverishing a nation. The most angriyng of all this is that the World bank has granted loans to Facistic dictatorships sponsored by the United States. All actions taken by dictatorships are illegal since a dictatorship by itself is an illegality. So loans taken by nations during a dictatoship should not count as an legitimate thing.

Another reason to dislike United States is because of its hipocrisy. The war on terror. Lets begin by prosecuting the Terrorists sponsored by United States first shall we? .... -> impossible! its impossible !!Its Damned Impossible !!!

All because of the "National Security" dogma.

So, how do you fight agains this oppresive eagle? - the answer is simple: you cannot! they control everything!

The worlds mightiest army. Any movement who seeks to distribute wealth move evenly between the poor and the rich and to establish free healthcare and free education for all people, so that the rich pay more taxes is seen as either socialism or communism and its something that the CIA must combat.

The riches of undeveloped nations should be owned by the nation so that the benefit of it comes to the majority of its people so that the nation can be strong and able to support its people for the sake of the people. In order to archieve this nationalization is a necessity. However those measures will always ANGER United States in a great way because thay want to be owner of the riches of other nations.

Now, my own point of view may be viewed as biased towards socialism/communism. Will the CIA target me now? - probably! but do i care? - NO!

This world is submerged in darkness, a little light will always help.

It's a bit long but it's really worth reading it.

Another good thing was SweetiePie's participation in my previous hub. She showed a great understanding capability and I really liked her comments in my hub. One of the few Americans with nice comments on that hub. She did well by totally abandoning the discussion when it got really nasty.

This was all nonsense and everyone has it's opinions, being a proud american or being an anti-american, living in the US or not. There is stupidity in every country, bad politicians in every country, poverty in every country, flaws in every country.

Let's not talk about what the US has done and who should thank the US for some reason.

Let's all agree that every nation and country has great things and bad things.

Can we put and end to this ?

As it happened before, I hope some people don't say I'm backing out because I know I'm loosing or will lose something. This is really false. When I abandon something, it's because it got stupid. The only reason I didn't delete my previous hub was because later I could look at it and laught (I already did, at some people).

I don't wish to start another discussion on this subject

I thing everything here was discussed and a very nice agreement was reached. Please don't start it all over again, or else, you can start but don't think you count with me in it just like hoverdawg72 wanted. I also already explained myself so I consider myself done with all this.

Please don't be rude in the comments

I really got some disturbing and insulting comments the previous hub, lots of them. I'm not mad at anyone because it's stupid to be mad at someone who we don't even know and have never seen before, but please don't be rude again.

If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything at all. It's way better not having any comments than having rude and insulting comments.

Please understand english is not my first language

Some people said I write pretty badly, others that I have some grammar and spelling errors. I use the spellcheck button everytime, but please understand that english is not my first language and I didn't grow up speaking english. I only learned it at school some years ago, and I bet some people would be a lot worse than if they tried to learn Portuguese.