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Twelve reasons not to sleep with your partner or spouse tonight.

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By mistyhorizon2003

I have written this hub as a means of giving a number good reasons for couples not to sleep together, tonight, or possibly most other nights. Yes it is of course nice to sleep with your partner, and many may say I am mad to even consider a loving couple should not share the same bed, but this is not about sex, this is about getting a good night's sleep.

Sleeping Alone


Having been in various relationships throughout my 39 years on this earth (today being my 39th Birthday), I have always found I slept better when I was alone in my/our bed. My guess is my partners probably found the same thing, and that all in all we would both have slept better if we had our own bedrooms, or at least our own beds within one room.

Having spoken to other couples I have found that largely they feel much the same, no matter how much they love their partners. I propose the best time for a couple to share a bed is when they are having sex / making love, and the rest of the time they would be more relaxed and better rested if they had slept alone.

My arguments to back up my case are as follows:


Duvetless
Duvetless
Snoring
Snoring
More Snoring
More Snoring
Pets on Bed
Pets on Bed

1) One half of the partnership inevitably tends to steal all the duvet, leaving the other poor soul to frantically try to drag it back over to their side of the bed whilst meanwhile freezing their socks off.

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2) At least one partner frequently snores so loudly (especially after a few drinks), as to keep the other partner tossing and turning all night with a pillow welded over their ears trying to block out both the noise and the vibrations.

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3) It often gets simply too hot for two people in one bed, therefore it is more comfortable to be alone, or if you are on your own and too hot, it is easier to spread out or change to the cooler side of the bed if you are not sharing. It is also pretty unpleasant cuddling up to someone who is sweating profusely, especially when it might not be the case if you were in separate beds.

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More Pets on Bed
More Pets on Bed
Night Time Toilet Finder
Night Time Toilet Finder
Alarm Clock Awakening
Alarm Clock Awakening

4) Not sharing a bed leaves more room for your furry pets to share your bed with their own unique brand of loving.

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5) There is no danger of "Roll Together" if one partner is a lot heavier than the other, (this is when the heavier partner causes such a dip in the mattress so that the lighter partner keeps on rolling into both the resulting crater, and their partner).

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6) If one of you is prone to needing to get up in the middle of the night for a visit to the toilet, a cigarette or a drink of water, sleeping apart removes the risk of disturbance from lights going on, duvets being thrown back etc.

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7) If your partner is prone to sexual advances towards you in the middle of the night when you would prefer to be asleep so you are suitably rested for work the next morning, sleeping apart will make it far more effort for them to try and sneak a hand (or other unwelcome appendage), into a place you would prefer they left alone until a more convenient time.

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8) If one of you has to get up for work at a completely different time to the other, sleeping in separate rooms ensures their alarm clock will not also wake the person who does not yet need to be awake or need to surface from under the depths of their cosy duvet and fascinating dreams of being chatted up by gorgeous film stars.

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Sleep Walking
Sleep Walking
Sleeping Positions
Sleeping Positions
French Women Don't Sleep Alone French Women Don't Sleep Alone
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Sleep Alone Sleep Alone
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Nice Guys Sleep Alone Nice Guys Sleep Alone
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How to Sleep Alone in a King-Size Bed: A Memoir of Starting Over How to Sleep Alone in a King-Size Bed: A Memoir of Starting Over
Price: $2.97
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9) Partners who meaning well, and wanting to be affectionate, treat you like a glove puppet, and keep on sliding their hands up inside your pyjama top to cuddle you. Very sweet, but also can be very uncomfortable when you are trying to sleep. A separate bed ensures this problem will not be one you have to deal with!

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10) Partners who can't help but fidget in bed, twitching, kicking, jolting etc. A real blessing is to have them in a different bed so you can relax without your bed becoming a vibrating nightmare.

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11) If your partner talks in their sleep this can be quite frustrating, especially if it is incoherent, and you are straining to understand what they are saying in case it is something you 'need to know'. Usually it is only nonsense, but by now you are wide awake and asking them questions, to which you are receiving unintelligible or crazy answers due to them still being asleep.

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12) Partners who sleepwalk. This would scare most people as well as disturbing them. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night to find a glassy eyed Husband standing over you who seems to think you are the bloke who stole his ex-girlfriend 20 years earlier. You do hear cases of people sleepwalking who have murdered their partners without knowing what they are doing, and my advice is not only sleep apart, but get a lock on your bedroom door if this is their problem.


Laptop in Bed
Laptop in Bed

Conclusion

I have known many very happily married couples who sleep in separate beds or bedrooms. They still have sex, they still love each other, but they both get a good night's sleep. It saves so many arguments such as whether to sleep with the window open or closed, the light on or off, and not to mention if one half of the couple wants to read or use their laptop computer well into the night, whilst the other wants to be asleep in the dark.

The obvious solution is to have separate beds or bedrooms, and simply share a bed, a kitchen table, a rug etc whenever you wish to make love together.

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goldentoad profile image

goldentoad  says:
12 months ago

I thought I was all alone on this one, I just can't get a good night sleep when my spouse and I are in the same bed. This is a good hub, and I'm going to have to print this put it on the frig, so maybe she stops thinking I'm such a heartless guy. And also, on the kitchen table, really?

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

LOL, thanks Goldentoad. If it is any consolation my Mum and Step Dad now sleep in separate rooms although they are both very much in love. They both admit that they both sleep better apart, so it doesn't mean you and your partner don't want to be together if you choose not to share a bed for sleeping purposes.

Hey, what's wrong with the kitchen table? I read an article once where the women who wrote it said she was rubbish in the bedroom, but great in the kitchen, the garden, the bathroom etc. It was very obvious what she was referring to :) :)

Thanks for commenting :)

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goldentoad  says:
12 months ago

You read it in an article, huh? If you say so. Nothing wrong with the kitchen table, as long at it holds, and by the way, Happy Birthday.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks Goldentoad, yes my Birthday has finally arrived, and only another year to go until I hit the big 40, scary stuff.

No worries with our kitchen table, it is solid Oak and been in the family since before I was born. It was simply passed on to me, so I know it is very tough LOL :)

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Ardie  says:
12 months ago

I love this hub! My hubby and I have not shared a bed in almost 2 years because his snoring is insane and my exhaustion was making me super cranky with the kids. I still love him to pieces, but I need my sleep. Its good to know Im not alone : )

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks Ardie, no you are far from alone believe me. Glad you liked the hub :)

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sixtyorso  says:
12 months ago

Happy Birthday Misty. Regrettably probably guilty on all 12 counts but it is fun to try all the tricks!

Good Hub.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks Sixty. LOL, you guilty!!! Never, surely :) :)

joula_vegh  says:
12 months ago

Happy Birthday.....

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks Joula_Vegh, that is really nice of you. Cheers :)

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cgull8m  says:
12 months ago

Happy birthday Misty. Great hub. Cheers :)

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks cgull8m, glad you enjoyed the hub, and thanks for the Birthday wishes, (39 has finally arrived!!) :)

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KT pdx  says:
12 months ago

Happy birthday, Cindy! My husband and I always sleep in separate places, except when we want to cuddle or have sex. He sleeps on the futon in the living room, and I sleep on the bed in the bedroom. Nice arrangement, especially with snoring, different work hours, the cats, etc. My parents think it's a bit odd, but they also think it's nice that we've figured out a good system. His parents know of other couples who have similar arrangements.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Hi KT, thanks for the Birthday greeting. Yes it often makes much more sense for couples to sleep apart and so long as the relationship is solid it should not cause a problem. :)

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Mighty Mom  says:
12 months ago

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR MISTY GAL! Your practical and amusing hub is a lovely birthday gift from you to us. Thank you!

The best argument I know for married couples sleeping in separate beds: Ever notice how in all 1950s TV shows the couples had twin beds? And did you also notice how perfect the couples were? And their families, too? I rest my case:-)!!

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Misha  says:
12 months ago

Hey Cindy, is it your birthday?!

Happy Birthday to you!!!!!!

Wish you lots and lots of happy birthdays ahead :D

And yes, we sleep separately with my wife :)

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sixtyorso  says:
12 months ago

Misty I must just say that "glove Puppet" conjures up a few interesting mental images. I am sure Spryte can cast her machiavellian mind over ths phrase, add Mr Bunny and a few other images to this one! I am glad you haven't kyboshed the Group Shower idea!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks MM, had a great Birthday thanks apart from the coughing. Loved the point you made about the TV couples and the twin beds. Good point :)

Hi Misha, yes, it was my Birthday yesterday. Thanks for the Birthday wishes. So you sleep apart from your wife too. The more comments I am getting saying others do this too, the more I am convinced it is the best way and far more common than most people realise.

Sixty, I would love to hear Spryte's take on this, but she is still M.I.A. right now. I am sure she will have some interesting ideas once she gets here. Still on the for the Group Shower BTW :)

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justmesuzanne  says:
12 months ago

Thank you for this! As someone who loves to read late into the night under a pile of cats and dogs, I deeply appreciate the validation of this HUB! :)

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks Suzanne, well, give me a cat or dog any day over a snoring man, (and i am speaking from a place where I can hear my Husband snoring loudly in the bedroom I soon have to go to sleep in!!!)

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justmesuzanne  says:
12 months ago

Perhaps you will take up sleepwalking and it will be the end of your problem! ;)

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

You never know. I will soon find out as I am off to bed now (04.05am here), so will catch up tomorrow evening I hope :)

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Meg McNeal  says:
12 months ago

My parents and I were just talking about this yesterday. They have had separate rooms for about ten years, yet they are still very much in love after 58 years.

My Mom was just saying that they both rest better.

My Dad was saying that my mom breathes so lightly that he was always checking to see if she was Ok.

PR: wait... I: wait... L: wait... LD: wait... I: wait...wait... C: wait... SD: wait...

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks for your comment Meg. I guess this is true for many couples.

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MRS Great Caruso  says:
12 months ago

My husband is killing me with his snoring, but SH, SH, SHHH, don't tell him I said so. I do miss him when he is not by my side though. I might need a night off from time to time now that the snoring nose strips are not working!!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks MRS Great Caruso, yes, a night away every now and again might be a good idea, or you could try wearing a good set of earplugs :)

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Paul Edmondson  says:
12 months ago

I'm not sure having a pet in the bed will help you sleep better. I think it negates quite a few of the reasons for sleeping alone.

I have to say, I'm in the camp that it's better to sleep together in the same bed. If there is something that is making it uncomfortable like it's too hot, then use less covers. If he or she snores, find a treatment. I say tackle the problems before going to separate beds...jmo.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks Paul, nice to have your input. Maybe you are one of the lucky ones whose partner doesn't have any bad bedtime habits such as stealing duvets etc. Personally I do sleep with my Husband, but still sleep better once he leaves for work and I have the duvet all to myself and my cats as hot water bottles, (and they don't snore). :)

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Vibhavari  says:
12 months ago

I so agree with you! All the time I was married I craved my own separate bed so I could sleep in peace..

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Thanks for commenting Vibhavari. There is something lovely about having your own bed, although on occasion it can get lonely. I am pretty certain the quality of sleep must be better if you sleep alone though.

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sonia05  says:
12 months ago

hi Cindy,my husband n i are living in different cities coz of our respective jobs which are too good to leave as of now.we have been married for almost 2 years trying to overcome d geographical distance between us n be with each other on every possible occasion. we love each other too much to let anything come between us.i always want him with me and he chooses to cuddle me n hug while sleeping which is fine by me for sometime(till we are talking or watever).after that,i desire for my own space and sanctum which is essential for a gud nite sleep but he doesnt understand why i end up hanging to d other corner of d bed away from him. i am so glad that to know that there are others in a similar situation.i will definitely ask my husband to go thru your hub.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
12 months ago

Hi Sonia, I hope that by reading this hub he may get a better understanding of why it is nice to sleep alone, and realises that it doesn't mean you love him any the less, you just enjoy a good nights sleep. Thanks for commenting :)

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aulakhgps  says:
11 months ago

lol, this is true, sometimes one should go wrong by words then this is better to sleep alone with no argument nd change ur mood nxt day love again do sex nd whatever else..................

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trish1048  says:
11 months ago

Hi Cindy,

I wonder if couples ever discuss this prior to marriage.  I rather doubt it.  Thankfully, my hubby and I never needed separate beds.

Personally, pretty much nothing wakes me up other than a call of nature.  I can sleep through anything, such as lights on, tv on, partner snoring or getting out of bed or having pets in the bed.  As a child, I used to like to sleep with my mom, and she hated it because she said I used to toss and turn all night.  I imagine she waited till I fell asleep then put me in my own bed :)

Once, I had locked the house up and gone to sleep.  My daughter forgot her key.  She called the house, no answer, banged on the door, no answer, went around to my bedroom window and banged on that, plus calling my name while doing all these things, and nothing.  I never heard a thing.  I don't know how long she had to do that but I did eventually wake up.

There are also many nights when it stormed outside with very high winds, and again, I heard nothing.  Currently, I keep my alarm clock on full blast next to my bed and have been known to sleep through that, even though it woke others at the opposite end of the house lol

Conclusion is, I think, if I were to have a new partner, he would be the one seeking refuge in either another bed or room.

Cute hub!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

LOL, lucky you Trish, many peole will envy you this ability, although not so great if your smoke alarm is going off at the time. I was once known to sleep through the "Nuclear War Alert" sirens when they tested them here in Guernsey. I guess I would have been toast by the time I realised if it had been a genuine case of a nuclear bomb being dropped.

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trish1048  says:
11 months ago

You're absolutely right! That's the one thing that scares me to death. I know I wouldn't hear either my smoke or carbon monoxide alarms should they ever go off while I'm sleeping.

I do experience some nights, very rare, however, where I don't sleep too soundly, and last night I woke to the 'test of the emergency broadcast system' blaring on my tv.

sohan999  says:
11 months ago

so that we can enjoy the night with others wife or girl friend

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J_Eds  says:
11 months ago

Although I am sure this works for many people, and many of your points are valid some are very strange to me....

not sharing a bed with your partner so you can share it with cats.....???

And the hugging with hand up pajamas? "Baby, thats lovely but please don't do that"

Ended...

And i think a partner using a laptop or reading with the light on in the room the other sleeps in is plain rude... use another room!!

I dunno...

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

LOL J_Eds, the cats on the bed comment was meant to be tongue in cheek rather than serious. The hugging with hand up pyjamas is annoying if you are the person who now has an uncomfortable scrumpled up pyjama top to lay on, plus it gets cold. As for the reading or using the laptop, well, to "use another room" is exactly what I am suggesting to avoid this being a problem. That way everyone is happy and gets a good nights sleep, yet can get together in the bedroom for more important activities, or cuddle time when NOT planning to be sleeping. :)

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rockinjoe  says:
11 months ago

Another great hub I missed. My wife and I get along so well during the day because we fight all night in bed.

Great job-and all true!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks Joe, love the comment about fighting all night in bed with your wife :)

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Shirley Anderson  says:
11 months ago

Great hub, Cindy. Belated Happy Birthday, by the way!

I've known couples who sleep in separate rooms. I always thought that it meant they were having trouble, but you've shown me differently, thanks.

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Sexy Health  says:
11 months ago

I enjoy cuddling with my husband at night. You are right, however, about the sleep thing. IF he falls asleep before me and I go into bed, it is almost impossible to get to sleep!! I don't know how people do it. I guess because it is how things are - the thought of not sleeping in the same bed brings up emotional and sociological connotations that I don't think anyone is prepared to deal with. While the whole time we are all thinking about the physical aspect - being YES! I would love to sleep alone... Interesting. :)

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Coast Runner  says:
11 months ago

I'm going to run home and saw the marital bed in half, put up a wall with barbed wire on top, and get a decent night's sleep. Great Hub

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trish1048  says:
11 months ago

Cindy

So sorry, I meant to wish you Happy Birthday the other day.  Hope you had a great one!

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Cris A  says:
11 months ago

You may want to check this out and you may need a glass of water:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Twelve-reasons-not-to-slee

I told him he forgot to copy your pictures!

I'm not sure if the hub's still up or my comment's been deleted.

Laurel Nicolosi  says:
11 months ago

I enjoy hearing all these common sense reasons not to sleep together...if the relationship is solid, and there is snoring and back problems (as there is with my husband) - then why not sleep apart? He sleeps on the reclining couch downstairs with his heated blanket and I sleep upstairs in the bed. I go to bed when I want, I kiss him goodnight, and he and I sometimes snuggle before or after bedtime. It works out well for both of us, and leads to a happier marriage :)

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

OMG Cris, you were not kidding about me needing a glass of water. I have posted on this copied hub now and told him to unpublish it, plus flagging it for duplicate content. Still trying to work out how he managed to publish it under the same title as mine without being told this title was already taken. Currently cannot see any difference in the titles, even minor unless I am missing something. Thanks for the tip off.

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B.T. Evilpants  says:
11 months ago

I flagged him hours ago, Cindy. Things tend to get done slowly on the weekend, though. I'm sure it will be resolved soon.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks B.T. Much appreciate my friends looking out for me as I have not been able to get online since yesterday due to our house getting flooded by a pipe under the bath last night. Don't laugh, but for the second time in 2 years I ended up with over 6 fireman in our home after midnight, whilst I wandered round in my dressing gown and pyjamas. They are going to think I am doing it deliberately!!!

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B.T. Evilpants  says:
11 months ago

Oh, by the way, I slept on the couch for years, due to a snoring problem. Then I had the snore surgically removed. Things have never been better!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

I suppose I could divorce the "snoring problem", but it seems a bit harsh !

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Roger Renwick  says:
11 months ago

hi misty, my wife and i have seperate beds close togeater, but not making contact, she cannot stand movement. i had sleep aphena with snoring so loud it would wake the dead, i had a sleep study done, had a operation with the trimming of my palat, now i do not snore. however now my wife has aphena, but she chose the C-pap air machine, she looks like a jet fighter piolit, it is noisy, but our floor fan drowns out the sound. we have been married for 15 years and still love each other.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Hi Roger, thanks for commenting. Our friend has sleep apnea and has to sleep with a machine on to ensure he doesn't stop breathing, not nice. Luckily he is single.

I reckon most of my Hubby's problem with snoring is down to his weight, drinking, and when he was smoking. Even as I am writing this he is lying in bed next to me snoring like a train.

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Christoph Reilly  says:
11 months ago

Damn! Can you believe the nerve of that guy! (Or is it just idiocy?)

Anyway, about the Hub:

My wife and I didn't get married until we were in our 40's, and we were quite used to sleeping alone. We had both lived on our own for over 20 years, and we decided to have seperate bed rooms. Sometimes we sleep together and sometimes we don't. It wasn't so long ago that, among the wealthy anyway, it was standard for the husband and wife to have seperate bedroom suites. There is something to say about having lots of space to sleep in and no outside disturbances. Her room doubles as her make-up and dressing room, and her day room (and how many women don't want those?)

It certainly doesn't mean we don't love each other. In fact, I think it makes us closer. We each like to get a little privacy.

Glad you have said that there can be positive reasons for not sleeping together! And have stated so many examples! Thanks!

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SweetiePie  says:
11 months ago

Great hub Cindy! Sorry to hear that plagiarist person stole your beautiful hub. I guess you can be flattered they liked your writing, but that is not a pleasant experience it all. This has happened to me in the past and I was very upset about it.

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weblog  says:
11 months ago

It's an interesting hub...sorry to say that I found the duplicate one before coming to know this one

(the url of the copied hub is much similar too)

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks Christoph, I am glad to hear sleeping apart works for you too.

As for the pratt who stole my hub, well, he has not only stolen mine, but at least 3 of his other hubs too. I checked this out and have contacted the other publishers to warn them too, plus flagging the hubs to hubpages. Hopefully he will get dealt with swiftly and harshly.

Thanks for all of your comments of support here friends :)

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Sally's Trove  says:
11 months ago

This is a wonderful affirming Hub for all couples who know they can't be in the same bed together night after night The social stigmatism against separate bedrooms is very funny, if you think about it in terms of the Hollywood silver screen and into the 50s, where married couples ALWAYS had one twin bed each. LOL!

I have a friend who, with the absolute agreement of her husband of 30 years, finally instituted separate bedrooms, just like in Victorian times, or maybe like in current times among today's royalty and the rich, for all the good reasons (except keeping infidelity a secret...their house is not big enough to conceal that transgression). They can't get a good night's sleep when they are separated by only 18 inches or so in the same bed. In their case, they can't get a good night's sleep in the same room.

Here's an awesome benefit for them: they make dates with each other for a rendezvous. He leaves a note saying he'd like to visit. She accepts or declines (by returning a message in a hand-written fragranced note). When she accepts, he brings flowers and wine, they have their romance, and he leaves to go to his own room.

These are the two most rested people I've ever known.

Did I say this was a great Hub?

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks Sally, wow, you make it all sound really romantic, so I hope more people see why this could actually spice up their relationships if they tried it :)

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The Old Firm  says:
11 months ago

Gee, misty, you're exactly the same age as some Indian tadpole who writes just like you. I hope a thousand plagues beset him in his underwear.

Cheers, TOF

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agvulpes  says:
11 months ago

Hi Misty great original Hub. and many good reasons for sleeping apart. Absence does make the heart grow fonder or should that be longer!

What was that I read about you and a Pipe under the bath, funny place to have a pipe. Oh well no wonder the place got flooded.

btw the difference in urls was : Yours....partner-or-spouse. his....partner-UR-spouse.

Thats all it takes. He knew what he was doing. He got another flag.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks Ag and TOF, yes, I realised how he did it later after I checked it out more closely. What is more, he has copied virtually every hub he has published as far as I can tell, as I have been checking them out on the Net. At least three including my own are from fellow hubbers, and the rest seem to be on other sites on the Internet.

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The Old Firm  says:
11 months ago

One good side effect Cindy is that you're getting traffic on this site because of the little toe-rag.

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needful things  says:
11 months ago

Now this is the original...

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

LOL TOF, I think his version is getting more than mine because of all the people posting on his copy hub to give him a hard time over what he has done. You should read my forum post on him too. He has also copied hubs from AEvans, Whitney05 and Paul Edmondson, and those are just the copies of fellow hubbers articles, the rest appear to come from other internet sites.

Hi Needful Things, yes, this is definitely the original :)

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The Old Firm  says:
11 months ago

That's why I only visited his hub once, to check it out.

Cheers.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Well the higher his copy hub creeps up the rankings tonight, the more people will leave him angry comments about it being copied as until he deletes all the comments it is made very clear that all of his hubs are copied.

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B.T. Evilpants  says:
11 months ago

I just left him a lovely comment. Judging by the number of comments he's had, I would like to think he gets the picture. Off to bed now.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks BT, sleep tight :)

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surviveprison  says:
11 months ago

Hey, Hi and Howdy - have to say I like your version better. Not a big fan of cats and #7 struck home...not my wife - my cellie. Hard to switch rooms back then.

As well, I think you are right about (he who will not be mentioned) hub post idea to get flamed by a larger group of people - maybe that was the intention -

Also - "Tum Chor Ho" in Hindi means "You are a thief" maybe we should all post that in his comments?

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Hi surviveprison, Thanks for commenting. You have my sympathy regarding your cellie, hope you are out now unscathed.

Hopefully 'he who shall not be named' will be put to rights by Hubpages tomorrow as I have complained to the copyright section, plus he has been flagged numerous times now.

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surviveprison  says:
11 months ago

Hi Misty - sympathy should be directed towards my cellie...

just kidding -that sort of stuff doesn't happen unles you want it. Anyhow, I hope (he who will not be named) is removed. On the legal front this could be deemed as straight copyright but that would entail getting HP involved, also "theft of services" for those of use who don't know who to click from - but - your up against a flea from across the pond - makes it kind of hard for venue. Good luck either way!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

LOL surviveprison, good answer.

Not too worried about sueing this guy, just want the article unpublished and him turfed out of hubpages ideally.

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The Old Firm  says:
11 months ago

Well Cindy, he's been removed. As he was only around a few days perhaps the charitable view is he's a drip who didn't understand hubpages and screwed up through stupidity. Whatever, its fixed. I didn't record his other hubs so can't comment on their continued existence.

Cheers, TOF

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Houellebecq  says:
11 months ago

My Fiance and I sleep like rocks. Seriously. As soon as we lie down, say goodnight and steal a kiss we become corpse-like. No stealing of blankets, no cuddling, no temperature conflicts, no getting up... no movement what so ever. We also use different alarm sounds (on our cell phones) so we've become conditioned to not wake up to the other's ringer.

It was a long process to get there but now making the bed is so easy at our house. ha ha.

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bruce1789  says:
11 months ago

Hi Misty,

You bring up some good points; but overall, those inconveniences can be overcome with patience and alot of ingenuity, it just sounds so unromantic not to have my spouse by my side in our marital bed.

I doubt couples can really have that ultimate bonding and closeness if they're only in bed to make love and then one of them is sent packing to sleep on the futon in another room.

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kwhite8608  says:
11 months ago

What a great idea!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks for all the comments guys. It is really interesting to see how many other people actually feel the same way about sleeping apart. The lucky ones such as Houellebecq can happily sleep together, the unlucky ones attempt to continue sleeping together in spite of often insurmountable problems.

Bruce, I get where you are coming from, but do feel you are wrong about the loss of ultimate bonding and closeness if a couple sleep apart. The idea is no-one gets 'sent packing' to the other room, and that often both halves of the couple enjoy sleeping apart to ensure a good night's sleep. That does not stop them having cuddles on the bed at other times. My Mum and Step Dad are incredibly close and romantic, but both agree they sleep better in separate rooms.

When my Husband and I have stayed at their house my Mum has said she cannot understand how I manage to sleep with my hubby, as his snoring is so loud it keeps her awake in the next room. My Sister brings earplugs to our house when she stays over as his snoring also keeps her awake in the spare room on another floor! The Doctor says he simply has to lose weight, drink less etc, but this has been going on for years now, so I reckon I would be happier in a separate room, and he might be too if he hadn't got to be nudged and kicked by me all night in my efforts to stop him snoring. Doesn't mean I love him any the less though.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Hi TOF,

Yes he has gone, and so have all of his hubs as they were all copied. I am not quite as charitable as you towards him though, as I can't believe he was just stupid because he was a newbie drip. After all, I emailed him and posted on the copied hub, yet he deleted the comments on the hub from both myself and other angry hubbers, whilst still leaving the copied hub published. He ignored my email to him, and ignored my demands for him to unpublish the hub he had copied from me, so my feelings are he deserved all he got, and now he has paid the price for it. I told him he had picked on the wrong girl to steal a hub from, and that deleting my posts and ignoring my email was a huge mistake. Well now he knows what I said was true, and I hope he has learned a lesson in consideration towards others in the future.

Thanks again for your total support given in this matter :)

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KCC Big Country  says:
11 months ago

Glad we got the guy copying hubs removed.  It was nice to see everyone pitch in last night to help flag him and warn others.

Now, for my comment on the topic at hand. 

With my first husband, I discovered about day 2 of our marriage that if I ever wanted to have any covers I would have to have my own.  We slept well together, but always had separate covers.  You just fold up the extras when making the bed. We were married 23 years this way.

Now, with my second husband, I discovered on day 1 that we would have to do something.  He was snoring horribly and I could tell he was in distress.  We had the sleep study done and yes, he too uses the C-pap machine.  Which when it is fitted properly it should be whisper quiet.  And his usually is.  Every now and then he moves it in his sleep and causes a leak in the seal around his mouth and nose area. The distress I was noticing was him struggling for a breath . He was recorded as stopping breathing 70 times a hour.  That's more than once a minute. 

Both of our sets of parents sleep in separate beds in separate rooms.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

That's amazing our friend has similar results, only his rate was 74 times per hour and he is stuck on one of those sleep apnea machines too. Not sure if Richard needs that yet, but the snoring is horribly loud, and much like a pig in heat and possibly with a bad cold at the same time.

I am glad the plagiariser has gone too, and it was lovely to see everyone rally round to make sure he knew this was far from acceptable behaviour, plus the Hubpages team dealt with the matter pretty swiftly and decisively. I hope he will know better than to try this elsewhere now.

Thanks for your support on this too.

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Lady Guinevere  says:
11 months ago

Well finally it comes to you when I turn to this hub! Most times my hubby sleeps on the recliner in the living room. He sweats alot and with his work schedule he just would rather sleep there and let me get some sleep myself. He doesn't want to wake me up at 4 in the moring and when he is on-call for the Crisis team he never knows when he will be beeped and the beeper is very loud. When we are sick--we like sharing our colds and flu (sic) he will sleep on the recliner too. He just sleeps better there then in the bed.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

LOL, thankfully the copy hub and hubber no longer exist, phew!!! Thanks for your help on that issue too by the way.

Yes, my Hubby sweats a lot in bed too, and nothing is worse than going to cuddle up to someone and finding them all clammy and damp, yuk. I would much rather cuddle up to him at an "awake" time after he has had his daily bath and is all fresh and clean.

nawab351  says:
11 months ago

Every one want to enjoy

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Benson Yeung  says:
11 months ago

Hi Cindy,

good choice of topic and great read, as usual.

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Amber90  says:
11 months ago

wow a ton of comments on this one. I didnt get to read them all. I guess i am just a pushover when it comes to sleeping. I enjoy having mine right next to me (..well at least in the same bed) I completely understand and know several couples that are less drained, have a great sex life and sleep in separate beds.

My advice for those who want a great nights sleep, their own bed space and their other in bed with them .... California King Bed! : )

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natia2105  says:
11 months ago

hey.. a very nice hub...informative and entertaining :) ....

cmoorecole  says:
11 months ago

I am so pleased and, frankly, surprised to see almost 100% support for this idea. I really expected to see people reacting negatively. You have helped me more than you will know. My significant other has been driven to sleep in another room, after shutting the bedroom door (I am that loud), for several years. I have experienced so much hurt over this, in spite of his insistence that it has nothing to do with how much he loves me. Now I realize that I was too stuck on memories of the early days in our relationship when we slept entangled on purpose. There is nothing wrong, in a mature relationship, with sleeping apart for the benefits of better sleep. Like someone else noted, this is an opportunity for a whole new type of fun in your relationship when you can invite your own spouse or partner to your room. I feel so much better and actually, loved.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks Benson, great to see you here as always.

Hi Natia, glad you enjoyed the hub and thanks for commenting.

Hi Cmorecole, really pleased this has helped you. Trust me, my Mum and Step Dad love each other to pieces, but still prefer to sleep apart. As you have read here, many people feel exactly the same way. Turn it into an adventure and it could really spice up your love life, plus you will both sleep better in separate beds.

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christianwaton  says:
11 months ago

I agree. I'm single right now but whenever I'm in a relationship I get the worst sleep when with a partner.

rachael  says:
11 months ago

dont sleep wiht anyone...they could give you herpes

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks for commenting christianwaton, I am sure many people have the same problem.

six9k9  says:
11 months ago

YOU ROCK!! The traditional couple is tearing the fiber of a good marriage apart. Could be why the divorce rate is so high? Could be why 50yrs ago married couples did sleep in seperate beds? Togetherness doesnt mean connected at the hip. People need their space, and when it comes to sleep, sometimes the more space the better.

When couples complain about each other what is the first thing they complain about? The other persons sleeping habbits. Plus when you do get to invade the other persons "personal" space, it will feel like you are only visiting..ha ha..J/k

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
11 months ago

Thanks six9k9, great comment and very good points made. So glad you appreciated and understood the hub topic. :)

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sean.rutger  says:
10 months ago

Nice hub, Misty. I can't bring myself to agree entirely, I actually don't sleep well when I'm without my wife. Of course, she has some of the same complaints you have (I snore, toss and turn, and we fight over the comforter all night), but she said the same about trying to sleep without me. Instead, she likes to go to bed about an hour before me. This way, she gets to lay down and fall asleep without me there to "bother" her. She also likes that I'm still awake to watch over things as she falls asleep... It's a mental thing, she says, she feels more protected that way. But, on those rare occasions when I actually fall asleep on the couch, she wakes up to come get me and bring me to bed.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

Fair enough Sean, and thanks for commenting. I too have been known to wake up and retrieve my Husband from the couch where he has fallen asleep, although I often regret it once he starts snoring again in bed LOL :)

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JamaGenee  says:
10 months ago

I'm a firm believer in sleeping together a few times *before* commiting or marrying.  Not for sex, just *sleeping*.  Sex you can have anywhere (yes, even on the kitchen table altho I prefer the dining room table - much sturdier). But places to sleep are usually limited, so finding out what sort of bed partner your intended is can tell a lot about the type of person he/she *really* is.  If you can't stand clingers, then you and a snuggler are already on the way to parting.  A cover hog is probably selfish and stingy when awake too.  A heavy snorer, no matter how charming and lovable while awake, will cause you to have homicidal thoughts after a week (or less).  Same for an undiagnosed sleep apneac...having your own sleep disturbed 20 or 30 times a night will make you wonder if you can be arrested for *not* nudging them to breath, and they die as a result...

btw, you left out the "pinner" (usually the guy) who sleeps on his stomach with one 200-pound arm thrown over his beloved's chest.  At least it feels like 200 lbs when Beloved tries to move or wiggle out from under it!  This could indicate a control freak. Run!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

LOL, superb comment JamaGenee, very true and very funny. Luckily my Hubby is not a 'pinner', but guilty of most of the rest, although I haven't nudged him to death yet.

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Writomania  says:
10 months ago

All great reasons . Liked it very much :-)

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Chrissy Says...  says:
10 months ago

Interesting to say the least and all good points to mention, however I don't quite agree. If both parties agree this would be great, but for most couples this probably isn't feesable. My boyfriend and I have been together for years and I must admit that this would never be an option for me. Sure we have the weird quirks, but I find that sleeping together is our best bonding time. We have our best conversations before bedtime and cuddling right before falling asleep is an added bonus. We do agree that neither of us can be touching while sleeping, but it seems easy enough to cuddle, then roll to your prospective side of the bed...Leaving out the need for the extra bed and/or room, not to mention the extra financial burden. You may think we're peaceful sleepers, but as a matter of fact, my boyfriend has night terrors...Not just nightmares, but full blown episodes where he screams and runs around frantically all while completely asleep - I've actually had to chase him a few times around the apartment to get him to wake up. So actually, it's safer we do sleep together so I can stop him before he runs out of the house. Sure, we have some unordinary circumstances, but sleeping together represents more to me than just doing it because it's the norm. I probably get disturbed more times in a night than the average person, but I think the pros outweight the cons by far. In this instance, it'd be wrong and selfish of me to suggest otherwise.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

Thanks Writomania , glad you enjoyed it :)

Thanks Chrissy, you make good points and obviously you cope well with your situation. I appreciate your feedback and alternative perspective :)

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Philosophy n' me  says:
10 months ago

Personaly I am indecisive on the subject. there are many pros and cons to each but I wanted to say that reading this hub was a delight :) a revealing as well as humorous and enjoyable read! thank you :)

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

Thanks Philosophy n' me, that is a lovely compliment and glad this hub also made you laugh. :)

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Tatjana-Mihaela  says:
10 months ago

My boyfriend and me sleep in separate rooms...He snores and I am stealing blankets plus pushing away in the sleep person who I am sleeping with. When I am alone, I sleep like an angel. almost do not move... I vote for separate rooms, and just very ocasionaly sleeping together...(Which happens only after I am away for few days)... Sex is much better when I do not need to hate him because of snoring...etc.

Thumbs up!

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Anamika S  says:
10 months ago

Nice Hub! Somehow I can't imagine sleeping without being cuddled.

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Anamika S  says:
10 months ago

Nice Hub! Somehow I can't imagine sleeping without being cuddled.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

Thanks Tatjana, I reckon it is good to sleep apart as you do appreciate each other more on the occasions you do get together for a night of passion if, like you say, you aren't angry with him over snoring.

Thanks Anamika, it is nice to be cuddled, but perhaps a combination of the other frustrations in addition to the cuddle would change your mind :)

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Constant Walker  says:
10 months ago

I WANT one of those lit-up toilets!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

Bet you can get them on ebay CW :)

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Constant Walker  says:
10 months ago

I would check Amazon.com first. I hate having to bid on stuff.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

It might have a 'Buy it Now' price CW, in which case no bidding necessary :)

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Sexy Health  says:
10 months ago

Thanks again for sharing this. I have to admit that I never imagined not sleeping in the same bed with my husband, but it seems like we sleep apart anyway, because we just like to. 5 minutes of cuddling and then we go our separate ways. Weird! I don't know if we ever would get separate beds, but I guess it is nice to know others share these feelings.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
10 months ago

Thanks Sexy Health. Actually my Husband and I have just agreed to start sleeping in separate rooms to improve quality of sleep for both of us. The plan is to start our new regime when I return from my holiday in March. No more snoring to listen to or fighting for custody of the duvet hooray!!!! :)

Holly  says:
9 months ago

I'm glad I found this hub. I'm going to have my husband sleep in our guest room tonight for the first time to see if I can sleep through the night. My sleeplessness has gotten much worse in the 2 years we've been married. I USED to sleep very soundly. Now I wake up countless times during the night. I suspect it's his movements that wake me and so I never actually get into a deep sleep. We'll see how it goes tonight. I'm a little afraid to find out that it is him. I don't want to end up in separate beds because I think it will hurt his feelings and possibly strain our marriage. He's very sensitive and I know he loves sleeping next to me because it helps him feel close and connected with me. It does for me too. I just can't keep going like this though---I'm willing to try anything to get a good night's sleep!!!

Thanks for setting up a place for me to find so many people who have had the same or similar problems, and have found working solutions. It was very helpful.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
9 months ago

So glad this has been helpful for you Holly. You could always say spend the night together two nights a week, and sleep in separate bedrooms the other 5 nights. A good compromise and you may both well sleep better. Certainly I always get into a far deeper sleep the moment my Husband gets up and goes to work, or when we choose to send nights in separate bedrooms. We are just waiting for a more comfortable mattress for our spare room, and then he is going to sleep in it fulltime apart from when we have guests who need the room, or when we want to get together "as a couple for a cuddle!!!"

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solarcaptain  says:
4 months ago

great hub. I notice that sleeping alone does not count when you have cats. I have a black just like yours (otella) and she hogs the bed every night. she also demands I go to bed same time as her and will dance on the computer keys to get me off it.

Just a note to those who can't sleep with a snorer. This can be sleep apnea, a condition that polaces great strain on the heart and has even caused death. It is especially dangerous because those who have it can fall asleep while driving and die that way.(woe be anyone in the way) Those who snore should see a doctor who will send them to a sleep clinic(if the condition warrents it)where a definitive diagnosis may be made. I had to have surgery but it cleared up the problem(of course by then my snoring had driven everyone away)

You are so lucky to live in the channel islands. It is very beautiful there.

thanks for the hub. Most amusing.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
4 months ago

Thanks Solar Captain, yes, I love to sleep with my cats, and actually sleep much better when they are snuggled up with me. You are right about the Sleep Apnea making people snore too, as we have a friend with this condition, and they found out he was the worst case Guernsey had ever known, missing 90 breaths an hour. He now has to sleep with a machine on all the time to ensure he doesn't die in his sleep.

The Channel Islands are lovely I agree, and a very beautiful and safe place to live. We are lucky :)

In Love  says:
4 months ago

This was interesting...Sometimes my parents sleep in separate rooms (My dad always, always ends up waking my mom - she *hates* that.) It's completely opposite for me, though. I can't fall asleep without my partner there beside me. We like to cuddle and then fall asleep in each other's arms. Usually I'm holding her, but we take turns, and stay that way all night long - we're usually in a twin bed, but even when we have the space, we end up just on one side as close as can be. I'm incredibly sensitive to noise, so sometimes I have to wear earplugs, but it's more than worth it. One of my greatest joys is falling asleep next to her, being able to hold her, and seeing her first thing in the morning when I wake up. (She looks so beautiful when she sleeps!!)

I find it so difficult to fall asleep without her that it is currently 3:39 and I'm still awake. Having not seen or talked to her in two weeks, I'll probably be up all night. Again.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
4 months ago

Lovely thoughtful comment "In Love". Thanks for your feedback.

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solarcaptain  says:
3 months ago

Great hub. Here's to no more miserable nights because of misguided love.(yes, I do too love you--I just can't stand the drama, the noise, the discommfort, and the unwanted pawing while I'm trying to sleep)!

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
3 months ago

LOL Solarcaptain, you summed things up perfectly in one comment. Congratulations, total respect :)

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catwoman89  says:
3 months ago

Happy Birthday! I have to say, it's worth all the hassle for us to feel the warmth of our relationship (although I would be lying if I didn't say sometimes I have to go out onto the couch because the snoring and farting is getting overwhelming).

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
3 months ago

LOL Catwoman, I love your last sentence about the snoring and farting :) PS. Why the "Happy Birthday", it isn't my birthday???

ledimi  says:
5 weeks ago

I agree, that's better sleeping in is own bed, for me i tried a king size bed and we have enough room for together. in my preview experience you re right

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
5 weeks ago

Hi Ledimi, thanks 4 commenting here. My Hubby and I now have separate bedroom and only get together at weekends, or on certain "other" occasions. It is working so much better for both of us I have to confess, and neither of us love each other any the less.

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msorensson  says:
5 weeks ago

A great hub. I always wondered...

Thank you, mistyhorizon.

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mistyhorizon2003  says:
5 weeks ago

Thanks msorensson, glad you enjoyed it :)

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