What Constitutes Proof in Ape Language Studies?
73Examples of Ape Language Studies
What constitutes proof in ape language studies? How would you go about proving that an ape has acquired language? The truth is that nobody knows. Many people will tell you what doesn't constitute proof, but the scientific community has not agreed on a standard, that if met, would definitively prove that an ape has acquired language.
Writing on this topic, Sue Savage-Rumbaugh, Stuart Shanker and Talbot Taylor had this to say: "...[I]f at the end of extensive experimental research, a reputable research team proposes a definitive answer [to one of the key questions in ape language research] ... there are no agreed methods by which the scientific community can determine whether that conclusion is or is not well-founded." (Apes Language and the Human Mind 1998. 142.)
The problem of proving that an ape has acquired language is not really different in theory from the problem of proving that a human being has acquired language. And in fact, some human beings face a similar fight for the recognition of their own independent communication. Those are the people who use assisted communication.
As long as they use their articulatory apparatus to speak out loud, most people enjoy the benefit of the presumption that they are in fact speaking, and not just making noises that sound like speech. People with normal speech don't have to prove anything. But for those with neural damage that prevents them from having normal control over their movements, the path to recognition that they do understand language and are able to use it is a difficult one. The controversy surrounding facilitated communication still rages.
In this hub I will explain the problem and offer some unconventional examples that I believe ought to be considered as proof, both in the case of humans and of apes.
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In the sixties and early seventies there was a lot of research into non-humans and language ability. Many of the subjects of these experiments were apes, although research was also conducted with other animals, such as parrots and dolphins.
One of the most successful projects of this period was the work of Beatrice and Allen Gardner with a female chimpanzee by the name of Washoe. Washoe was brought up in a human home, using a method called cross-fostering. She was taught American Sign Language and acquired an impressive vocabulary that she could use in context to express her wishes, desires and opinions.
Herbert Terrace attempted a similar experiment with a male chimpanzee whom he named Nim Chimpsky, after the famous linguist, Noam Chomsky. Like the Gardners, it was Terrace's intention to raise Nim in a human home and to teach him sign language. However, Nim's early experiences were very different from Washoe's. For one thing, Terrace did not volunteer to adopt Nim himself. He was an unmarried man, and he did not feel up to the challenge of raising a baby chimpanzee by himself. Instead, he asked a former research assistant of his to adopt Nim into her home. However, conflicts concerning parenting methodology and other matters arose, and Nim was abandoned by his adoptive mother at an early age and brought up by a whole string of different assistants, none of whom served as the central figure in Nim's life. Deprived of a stable family life, Nim experienced attachment issues very similar to those that human children deal with when they are denied a strong relationship with a reliable parent.
Terrace was also dealing with serious funding issues. Bringing up a chimpanzee in your own home does not cost more than bringing up a human child, assuming you are willing to be a stay-at-home parent and supervise all day long. However, Terrace was not bringing up Nim in his home. He needed a special place for Nim to stay which was not anybody's home, and he had to pay people to stay with Nim, and it was very expensive. Terrace also believed, as a scientist, that every waking moment of Nim's life had to be documented, either on film or in copious research notes, and this was very expensive, too. Eventually, Terrace gave up because he was unable to find sufficient funding, and the return on his investment in Project Nim seemed too low compared to the trouble that Nim was getting into.
Nim was sent back from New York to the place of his birth in Oklahoma, and he was forced to deal with very harsh conditions and to face the unpleasant realization that as a chimpanzee in a human society he had no rights. At one point, he was sold into medical research, and although many campaigned for his release, incuding Terrace, his remaining life was pretty bleak. If you are interested in learning more, I recommend the biography written by Elizabeth Hess.
(Washoe also ended up in the same facility from which she was taken as an infant, but she was lucky to have Roger Fouts, an assistant and student of the Gardners', with her, and he saw to it that her experience was not as stressful as Nim's nor nearly as lonely.)
About the same time that Nim returned to Oklahoma, Terrace began to review the tapes of Nim signing. He came to the conclusion that Nim was not using language spontaneously to express himself. It seemed to him that Nim was signing to please his trainers. Terrace published his conclusions, and then what happened was this: all researchers working in animal communication were invited to a conference which retrospectively is known as The Clever Hans Conference. There, not only was Nim Chimpsky denounced, but it was suggested that Washoe, and all other animals engaged in language experiments, were also not actually using language. They were all compared to Clever Hans, a German horse who had used cues from humans in order to answer math questions correctly. In 1907 it had been discovered that Clever Hans could answer questions correctly only when the human with him knew the answer and Hans could see the human. Now it was being suggested that the same sort of cuing was going on in all animal language experiments.
I quote from Sue Savage-Rumbaugh and Roger Lewin: "For some time during the mid-1970s, Thomas Seobok , a linguist at Indiana University, had bee expressing strongly negative views on ape language research. And in May 1980 he organized a conference under the auspices of the New York Academy of Sciences, which made his position brutally clear. The conference was called 'The Clever Hans Phenomenon: Communications with Horses, Whales, Apes and People'. ... There was even a move, fortunately thwarted, to have the conference vote for a ban on the research. At a press conference at the end of the meeting, Sebeok expressed his views most stridently of all: 'In my opinion, the alleged language experiments with apes divide into three groups: one, outright fraud; two, self-deception; three, those conducted by Terrace.'" (Kanzi: The Ape at the Brink of the Human Mind,1994, p.50-51.)
Many researchers in animal language experiments lost their funding following the Clever Hans Conference. Others persisted. Irene Pepperberg found novel ways of funding her work with Alex the Parrot. Francine Patterson went on working with Koko the gorilla. Sue Savage-Rumbaugh continued to work with chimpanzees and bonobos.
While working with a parrot who speaks, as does Pepperberg, one is less obviously subject to the accusation of cuing, because clearly nobody is telling Alex which vowels and consonants to put together in what sequence in order to answer the questions that Irene Pepperberg poses. If the social contact with Pepperberg is giving Alex any sort of clues, it might be on the content of his answer, but not its linguistic form.
Irene Pepperberg and Alex
Parrots are lucky in that their articulatory apparatus, while quite different from ours, is capable of producing comprehensible speech. The other great apes are not able to produce speech that humans can comprehend. That is why alternative methods of communication, such as sign language or lexigrams, have to be used. The moment it's not audible, the researcher opens himself up to the accusation that not just the answer itself, but also its linguistic form, is being cued.
It's one thing to be able to determine that the green key is the bigger one. It's quite another to know how to say "green" in response to a question like "which color bigger?". Even if Alex could somehow tell that Irene thought the green key was bigger (maybe by the way she was looking at it), she can hardly be accused by her body language to have caused Alex to move his vocal tract in such a way as to produce the word "green." Also, she cannot have clued him into the fact that green was a color. So clearly he knows what the word "green" stands for, and he knows what the word "color" stands for. And he knows that the question "which color?" requires an answer that is a color. All of this is very big in and of itself! And really, in a study about linguistic ability, who cares if a parrot is good at estimating sizes?
I'm not saying that I doubt in the slightest that Alex knew that the green key was bigger. I'm convinced in the validity of the entire demonstration. But the point, for purposes of standards of proof, is that it doesn't matter if Alex gave the right answer without cuing. He's demonstrated his linguistic competence, either way!
With apes who use lexigrams, the whole process is considered more suspect, because if the researcher inadvertently looks at the right lexigram for the answer, this might be a cue for the subject, not just for picking out the right answer, but also for picking out the right word to stand for the answer. Because of this, researchers in ape language studies are expected to conduct double blind tests, where neither the human nor the subject know the question or the answer. Many ingenious methods have to be found to minimize cuing.
In the following clip, Sue Savage-Rumbaugh is wearing a welder's mask to minimize cues to Kanzi about what she expects him to do as she gives him novel requests to comply with. Kanzi has never heard these sentences before. This is evidence of comprehension of English syntax.
Kanzi and Sue and Novel Sentences
Notice how patient both Sue Savage-Rumbaugh and Kanzi have to be in order to go through the entire list of novel sentence for purposes of proof. Clearly, Kanzi understands what he is told to do. Equally clearly, after a few tries, this exercise gets really old for both of them. They have to keep going, because they have set themselves this artificial task for the purpose of winning points with the scientific community.
In the following clip, Kanzi is asked to point at lexigrams for the words pronounced by a researcher who is not in the room. Kanzi hears the request through headphones, so Sue, who is in the room with him, will not know what he is being asked, and therefore will be unable to clue him in to the right answer.
Sue doesn't hear the question when Kanzi chooses the answer
When I watch these clips, the first thing that strikes me is how patient Kanzi is. Yes, he knows his lexigrams, and he understands English. But what is truly amazing to me is that he'll sit still through these really unchallenging tests without protest!
Kanzi is a bonobo, and he's a unique individual, too. I really admire both him and Sue for their patience and perseverance.
My adopted son Bow is a common chimpanzee. While I believe he is just as smart as Kanzi, I have to admit that he's a lot more stubborn and much less cooperative.
Bow started spelling out words in the summer of 2007 at the age of five and a half years. Up to that point, we were using lexigrams in Hebrew and English, but we made little progress, because Bow pointed faster than we were able to see. Then Bow started taking our hands and using them as pointing devices, making sure we took in what he was pointing at before proceeding further. From pointing at words in standard spelling he went on the spell out words by pointing at letters. His achievement is remarkable. There is just one problem: proof.
How do we know that with the physical contact between us during the process of pointing, we are not inadvertently cuing Bow as to what to say and how to say it?
Bow won't spell when there is no one in the room. Bow will not talk to strangers. He refuses to answer questions that he thinks we already know the answer to. He uses language only to communicate, and I cannot bribe or cajole him to use it for anything else.
When you ask Bow a question, he'll just as soon lie than tell you the right answer. So, how can we get any kind of double blind testing into place?
The answer is that at the moment, we can't. We are working on a computer interface for Bow, and we hope to make our demonstrations more objective by allowing the computer to sound out the words that Bow types even when we can't see him typing. But that is still in the works, and while we wait for all the kinks to be ironed out, I've discovered some old clips that I believe prove Bow the one spelling out the words, because he's saying things that the person who is with him cannot possibly know.
In the following picture, you see Delight Wang standing in our living room with my daughter Sword. Delight and her mother June Sun stayed with us for six months in 2003.
In the picture below, Delight is holding Bow while Sword looks on. When we spoke among ourselves we didn't call Delight by her English name. Her Chinese given name is 忻之. It's pronounced like this: [ʃɨ n ʐ ɨ] .
At the end of August 2007, I showed the pictures in our photo album to Eden Michaelov. Eden did not know Delight, and she did not know Delight's Chinese name. She took the sheets from the album containing the photo of Bow, Delight and Sword, and she asked Bow, at a time when I was not there, what the name of the little girl in the photo was.
If Bow had thought this was a test for purposes of proof, he probably wouldn't have answered. But he took Eden at her word. He knew that Eden didn't know, and he was willing to tell her.
English Translation of Dialogue in Clip 07082901-5
Eden: I want to know something. I saw this picture. Who is this girl? What is she called? That's Bow, right? Who is holding Bow here? Who is holding him? This is Sword. Who is this?
Bow: (spells) shin nun.
Eden: I don't know. I don't know her. What is her name. Do you know her? This is Sword; who is this? Tell me!
Bow: (spells) shin nun gimmel.
Eden: (Tries to sound it out.) Shanag?
Eden: What are you doing? Tell me! What is her name?
Bow: (spells) shin nun.
Clip 07082901-5
There were three consonants in the Chinese name. When we write in Hebrew, it is common to specify only the consonants. Bow chose the three Hebrew consonants that most nearly conformed to the Chinese pronunciation. Hebrew doesn't have a [ʐ ] sound, but the gimmel stands for [g] the closest available sound, and what native speakers normally use to render a [ʐ ].
What are the odds that someone selecting three letters out of the twenty-two letter Hebrew alphabet in sequence at random would have chosen this sequence? The odds are 1 in 10,648.
Eden didn't know the answer. No one else was there besides Bow. Is there any other explanation than that it was Bow who selected the letters?
The next example is from the following year. Our Intern in the summer of 2008 was Katie Thurston She stayed with us till the beginning of September. Katie is English, and she had been a student at the University of Edinburgh. Not only did she not speak Hebrew, something that Bow held against her, but her pronunciation of English was not American, and hence unfamiliar. At first Bow mistrusted her. He told me she talked funny. Then he started making up stories about her. He said she was an English spy, and that her name was Ruthie. He made up all sorts of interesting stories about what happened when I went out and left him alone with Katie.
Bow had always given new interns a hard time, but now that he could use language , there was an added element to his hazing: he tried to stir up trouble by making up tales. Eventually, though, Bow came to respect and like Katie, and they developed a close enough relationship that he felt safe with her. He began to spell with her. She even tried to learn a little Hebrew from him, but he refused to teach her, claiming that she was stupid, because she did not know Hebrew.
Bow could have helped our cause had he been willing to teach Katie Hebrew. It would have been proof that the words were coming from him and not her, had he been willing to provide English to Hebrew translations. But Bow is not that cooperative. Instead, on one occasion at least, he tried to mystify Katie by telling her in Hebrew what she could understand only when spelled out in English.
In the clip from September 3, 3008, transcribed below, Bow told Katie that he was full in three ways:
- He used the number 7, which when spelled out makes the word for "sated":
שבע
- He spelled out the word for "full": מלא
- When she didn't understand the above, he spelled out in English: "I am full."
Clip 08090301-3
Katie had picked up a little Hebrew in her three months with Project Bow. She knew the words for "Mommy", "Auntie" and "no." But this did not make her a speaker of Hebrew, and she did not understand what Bow was telling her.
Katie did not know that if spelled out in letters the Hebrew word for seven was identical in spelling with the word for "sated". Katie did not know the Hebrew word for full. There were no other people present, besides Katie and Bow. Is there any better explanation than that Bow was the one who pointed at the letters?
Some have suggested that all the researchers who have worked with Bow and had him spell for them are self-deluded. But how could self-delusion have resulted in the spelling out in context of words that the researchers did not know? What are the odds?
Real language use does not consist in answering questions that everybody already knows the answers to, as in the case of most double blind experiments approved by the scientific community. Real language use is coming up with spontaneous utterances that convey new information that your interlocutor does not know.
I would like to suggest a new standard of proof: if there is no other logical explanation than that the communication must have come from the subject, then we must accept that the subject has mastered language!
(c) 2009 Aya Katz
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Suzanne, thanks!
Sue Savage-Rumbaugh, two of whose books I've read, persuaded me that Kanzi was responding in intelligible speech. Have neuroscientists determined that Chimpanzees have a frontal lobe for speech similar to humans, even though they cannot form words with their mouths?
You have shown that Bow is spontaneously intelligible in words.
F.L.Light, thanks for your comment. I have the greatest respect and admiration for the work of Sue Savage-Rumbaugh. I'm glad that you understood the evidence concerning Bow. It is a little involved, as it requires understanding more than one language, and I'm concerned that it might be difficult for some readers to take in.
As for your question about neuroscientists, I think that they are only just beginning to map the human brain. They have not determined much of anything about chimpanzees. In fact, if you show a neuroscientist a functional nuero-image of a human brain, I seriously doubt that he would be able to tell from that alone whether the individual whose brain is being imaged has or does not have language ability.
You have taken the proof to a new level, showing how Bow, hearing English, answers in Hebrew, which the researcher does not know.
Might Bow prefer Hebrew because it has less letters?
F.L. Light, thanks! As for Bow's preference for Hebrew, I think it's the preference that each of us has for the language we know best and which is spoken in our homes. Bow has remarked that it is easier to write in Hebrew -- and most Hebrew speakers agree! But I don't think it's objectively any easier than writing in any other language. It depends on your frame of reference.
I really loved this. I have rescued many dogs and birds that had been mistreated and found that their trust had to be given first above all else. I have a conjure parrot now and it has taken 5 years for him to accept me totally.
Ginn Navarre, thanks for your comment! Yes, it takes trust to establish a relationship, whether with a human or a non-human. The importance of this fact cannot be overestimated in any attempt to test the ability to communicate.
A fascinating subject covered extremely well in this hub Kanzi is indeed very patient Bow seems very much to have a mind of his own and is not adverse to using it.
Aya, the difficulty you have in proving langauge comprehension is similar to difficulty we have in proving language comprehension in a toddler with autism.
You have the added benefit in that Bow with interact socially. We are making progress but it is slow and we have to overcome the lack of social interaction prior to proving any receptive speach. Expressive speach sometimes comes only in the form of the toddler looking at the desired food or toy. It sometimes takes longer than we have to work with a child to get them to touch an object desired.
I have the problem that I serve child only untill their third birthday. It is so disheartening when the referral does not come to us until the child is two or two and a half.
I applaud your research and heartily agree that Bow is demonstrating both receptive and expressive speach.
Maggs, thanks! Kanzi and Bow are both very smart, but as you can see, their personalities are quite different.
LisaML, thanks for your comment. It sounds as if you are facing a difficult task with the autistic toddlers that you serve. Why only until their third birthday? A child needs a long term commitment from an adult in order to reach his highest potential. If I had given up on Bow on his third birthday, we would never have known what he could do!
Aya, The program with which I am employed is a birth to three program. At three a child is transitioned into another program be that the school district or private therapy, ect....
In a child with the single dx of an expression speech delay, gross motor delay, fine motor delay this seems to work. It is especially challenging in a child with autism due to the time it takes to form the connection.
There are many programs available and a lot or parents will try to utilize them all.
I also believe in consistency of the adult authority and comfort figure as a vital component in any developing childs life. Part of what we attempt to achive in my program is teaching the parent/ caregiver the tools to help their child. I have to admitt that this is seldom, in a child with autism, the outcome we achieve.
The struggles involve so many factors, from the medical community down to the socioeconomic and cultural diversity of the population we serve.
At what age did Bow's preliguist skills begin to emerge?
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Lisaml, I understand your situation a little better from this added information. One of the problems that the American public school system has, and to some extent also the medical care system, is the lack of consistency of teachers and caregivers throughout the maturation of the student or patient. The best hope for the autistic children you are helping is, as you say, parental involvement.
Bow's pre-linguistic skills emerged early, before six months. In some ways, a chimpanzee is the exact opposite of an autistic child, because they come with built-in social skills that are as advanced as their physical coordination is compared to the average human infant of the same age.
In retrospect, I see that I should have expected more of him linguistically much earlier than I actually did. I didn't expect him to manage lexigrams till he was a year old.
I believe the communication delays we experienced were mostly due to a mismatch between our rate of information processing and his. We were slower. For a long time, we just didn't see everything he said.
When we used the Greenspan DIR floortime method, it really helped, but it was just as much in our learning to read him as it was his learning to read us.
I'm really impressed with this work; also, with what a lively student Bow is. I always was more fond of the intelligent naughty students -- common sense, wordplay, and imagination (all of which Bow demonstrates)are so much more fun than passive learning. And real proof that Bow is indeed using language to communicate. Who could still doubt it? The folk who say researchers are deluded are the ones who are in denial. Thank you for this great read.
Teresa, thanks! I agree. It's not the passive learners who are the most intelligent. I think a lot of humans, as well as non-humans, are penalized for their imaginative use of language in standardized assessments.
Wow! This is great work! I believe that the world needs more scientists working in this field. May be when there is solid proof that animals are able to use language intelligible there will be less suffering among them caused by us humans.
Michele, thanks for your encouragement and support!
Very interesting. I've always thought that people and animals are far more clever than we give them credit for sometimes. I'm not so sure about the intelligent ape thing, some of the most advanced monkeys and apes in the wild are barely tool users, but the potential seems to be there.
Written language, I think will be key in proving the intelligence of other hominids. That and hominids showing understanding of the world around them and attempting to control their environment. That will prove both concrete problem solving and more abstract thinking, which will pretty much end the debate as to the intelligence of other hominids. Until those three things are proven, judgment must be withheld.
Very though provoking as always, Aya, great hub.
Ledefenstech, thanks for your comment. I appreciate your open mindedness and willingness to look at possibilities you find implausible.
I take it from your comment that you are not convinced by the evidence I've presented. Do you have an argument against the standard of proof that I've suggested?
I can't say that I'm well versed in the subject, but I'm a great believer in the Law of Untended Consequences. I can't shake the feeling that we might be giving off cues that we don't notice but other hominids do. As for not being convinced, well it's not that exactly, it's more my reticence to accept anything at face vale. I can tell you that I cannot find fault with your methods, that's what makes what you suggest so intriguing.
Mostly it's just my nature to bash down new ideas like that and subscribe them to crystal gazers (long story) and err on the side of skepticism. I'll even stray into dogmatic territory, but in the end I'll judge something on it's merits. My adherence to skepticism is just a way to keep from being swept away by what I want to believe rather than what is. Zen Buddhism teaches us to divorce ourselves emotionally from the outcome of a situation, and my adherence to skepticism is my way of doing that.
I was wondering about Bow. Have you raised him from infancy and have you tried to teach him alphabets other than that of Hebrew? It would be interesting to see if chimps are able to grasp multiple alphabets, if your conclusions are valid, it would seem that they are just as adaptable as humans when it comes to spoken languages. Also recreating Bow's feats with another chimp would go a long way to providing replication of your experiment, which would help your case.
Ledefensetech, keep being skeptical. I prefer an honest skeptic to a "true believer" who never questions anything.
However, I don't think you've read the material carefully enough, if you ask whether Bow has been taught any other alphabet besides Hebrew. He uses English, too. It's all in there. Read again and view the clips. Read the related pages. Yes, I have raised Bow since infancy. That, too, is described in a separate hub.
And, yes, I do want to do it again with a new infant -- this time a female, so that Bow can eventually have a mate. But I'm very cautious with my own money. And I haven't found anyone to donate the next one!
Very intriguing, I must have missed the English part. Are you able to assign him an analog age to a human. He acts like he's 6-8, 9-12 or something like that? It's things like this that reinforce my belief in both science and religion. To think that creation is even more filled with wonder than might be considered at first glance. Perhaps we are not the only sentient species we know of.
Ledefensetech, I am very encouraged by your open-mindedness!
As for Bow's age, he is seven and a half. That's in normal "earth years". Please understand, he hasn't gone through puberty yet.
The human lifespan and the chimp lifespan are similar. In captivity, chimps can live to be in their seventies. In the wild, they rarely make it past forty. But that's true of humans, too.
Very detailed, very impressive. I'm not sure if it constitutes scientific proof, but it certainly provides a good argument for it.
Am I completely convinced? No, but you did lean my opinion more towards "it's possible" than it was before!
Steve R. McDowell, thanks for your comment. I'm glad you're moving in the direction of being open to the idea. Hopefully, in the future I will be able to provide even better evidence.
You know, I just had a bit of an idea. If you can prove the sentience of chimps, then we have a bit of a problem. We would no longer be talking about the vanishing habitat of an animal species, but the extinction of a sentient race.
Rather than frame it as an ecological issue, the argument would be similar to discussions we have about tribal groups and our responsibility to them in allowing them to choose to live like their ancestors did. In this I'm reminded of the Raga people of Vanuatu. Although they have the choice to live in a modern society, they choose to live as they always have, in tribal groups.
The practical considerations of that bear thinking on.
Ledefensetech, yes, I do see it as exactly the same problem. I've gotten in trouble in certain "progressive" circles when I've pointed it out.
By this, I don't mean to be advocating any particular rights for chimpanzees. I just happen to see that the parallels are very striking.
Hey I'm a libertarian. If they're sentient and live in a certain place, that makes the land theirs and they're free to do with it as they wish. The only problems I foresee is the destruction of their habitat, which may not be due to human activities (see the Maunder Minimum) but human action can either protect or transplant the species. That is what the debate should be about, in my opinion.
Some sort of caretaker system will probably be needed if only because I think the nuances of human society, advanced human society at least, are beyond them.
Ledefensetech, the caretaker argument is a serious stumbling block to a real solution. You've seen what happens to children under the current child welfare system. The same thing could happen, and to some extent is happening, to apes in the sanctuary system established by liberal intellectuals like Jane Goodall.
It's a thorny issue that's for sure. I'm putting my money on nanotech uplifting such species so that they have the capacity that we have to dream and build and make their own way, not be solely dependent on their environment, but be able to have some control of it.
Ledefensetech, I don't think Bow would take kindly to any technology whose goal was to alter his ability to dream -- or to change his mind about anything.
The question is: can we accept chimpanzees the way they really are, without trying to alter them?
Bow is very intelligent, but he's absolutely opposed to anything that even remotely resembles work.
I was thinking more about their shrinking habitat. Unless I'm mistaken, don't chimps need trees and such in order to survive? AFAIK only our ancestors made the transition from trees to plains, I don't think chimps would do very well in a plains environment, do you?
Ledefensetech, yes, I agree they need trees, and lots of them. The problem is that they are not able to defend the borders of their habitat.
Sorry, Aya - I completely missed this one, so I apologise for the late comment. I like to keep up with you and Bow but have been concentrating upon pumping out commercial Hubs recently.
You are preaching to the converted here - I once looked an Orang in the eyes and it was a humbling experience.
It was also the day that I vowed never to set foot in a Zoo again.
In fact, judging by Bow's aptitude for languages, is there any chance that you could send him over for a couple of months - he could probably pick up Greek much quicker than a Northern Bonehead like me :D
Sufidreamer, thanks for dropping by. Any luck generating revenue from your commercial hubs? Seems like kind of a pipe dream, to me. At any rate, I can't boast much revenue myself.
Certainly not enough to get Bow a companion of his own kind.
Yeah, I never go to the zoo anymore, either. It's depressing.
Bow doesn't travel much nowadays. He's safest here. He might even resist learning Greek, because it's easiest to start in on a new language when still a toddler.
I did want him to learn Chinese, but we didn't have enough volunteers who spoke Chinese to keep it consistent.
Hi Aya,
No payout, as yet, but I am starting to see an increase in Adsense and Amazon - I am not promoting them, so it will be slow. The plan is to make a decent income next summer, always a slow time for academic writers. My cost of living is pretty low, so even a couple of hundred dollars a month will cover the bills. Mind you, the subject matter is pretty dull!
I hope that you manage to find Bow a companion - apart from being nice for him, the scientist in me wonders if he would be able to teach language to a younger chimp. That would surely give you another level of proof :)
I was only half joking about the Greek - it is a language full of hidden subtleties and moods. Mind you, I can imagine that Hebrew has much the same richness.
Sufi, keep me posted on your progress. What subject matter is dull? Are you talking about your commercial hubs? I'll have to look and see. Isn't it impossible to write well on a subject you find dull?
I hope to find Bow a companion, one way or another. It will definitely open many interesting avenues for additional proof.
At the moment, I am writing about portable toilets, septic tanks and cement mixers! It can be a little difficult to write about dull subjects, but I am well used to it by now - I started off writing for the article mills, so you learn how to get into the right frame of mind and write on autopilot!
I will definitely keep up with your progress - I think that we (as a race) are incredibly arrogant in the way that we approach other species. I love the work that you are doing there - a battle to change attitudes :)
Sufidreamer, portable toilers, septic tanks and cement mixers. Wow! How did you pick those topics? I imagine they can be interesting, especially if you have need of them.
Bow is battling to change my attitude every day, too. I still have certain expectations that come built in if you've been raised human. My horizons are broadened as we make our way together as a family.
Hi Aya - had to go to bed last night so missed your reply!
I am from a family of builders and also worked in a hardware store for many years, so am sticking with what I know. I am trying to work around the age old principle of 'providing a solution to a specific problem.' If somebody wants to hire portable toilets for a wedding reception, the information is in the Hub!
I used to have a 50/50 split between internal and external traffic, but HP traffic now makes up less than a quarter, although some of that may be because I do not bother with the forums anymore.
I like your attitude with Bow - it seems like you are both learning many things from each other. It must be great for Sword, too - she has the advantage of having few preconceived notions, unlike us oldies!
Sufi, writing about what you know is a very good idea! I'm sure it's not dull at all. You were probably just being modest. Attracting more traffic from outside Hubpages than from within is a sign of success.
Sword lives in two worlds, the domestic one where she and Bow are siblings, and the external one where other children at school do not even realize that humans are a kind of animal, like all living things that aren't plants.
This is an amazing story! What does constitute proof is a tough line to decide.
Erick Smart, thanks! What constitutes proof is one of the biggest issues facing us today.
interesting topic. Just watching some of these apes (I've seen a couple on tv programmes) it seems self evident that they have language, but I've never really read about the scientific problems in recognizing this before.
Kephrira, thanks for your comment. You seem unusually observant. Yes, I am convinced at this point that they do have languages of their own in the wild, but we are a long way from being able to learn enough to prove this. For the time being, even when they do they learn our languages and use them expressively, we have trouble establishing acceptable protocols for proof.
Although I must confess I didn't read the entire article... I used to be a primate keeper and we had one chimp, Rachael, who knew a little sign language. Pretty much "apple" or she would point at her hand when she wanted something you (I) had. Like a coke! I agree that she didn't seem to be using it to express herself, just to get a certain reaction and as a means to gain something. I did believe that they communicated quite extensively with each other. I mean that's obvious I guess if you watch them long enough.
One thing I've always found frustrating about people who want to keep chimps or apes as companions, is they just are too much to handle when they reach adulthood. They are just to unpredictable. Its just a shame because people think they're all cute and try to humanize them and they really don't know how to be an ape later on in life when they become too much for their human owners to handle. So they end up in a cage by themselves.
Robakerost, thanks for your comment and for being honest about not reading the article. Sometimes we want to share our own experiences so much, that we don't listen to what the other person has to say. I've done that before myself, so I do understand where you are coming from. However, it would be really great if you went back and read the article.
If you read this article, and some of my other articles about Project Bow, you might learn the following surprising facts:
* Bow can read and write in two languages
* He uses language to express thoughts -- not just ask for things.
* When Bow got big enough to need a to be caged, I caged myself along with him, so that he would never be alone.





















justmesuzanne says:
4 months ago
Very interesting and complete treatment of this subject! Thank you for the new information about Bow! :)