What to do When you Know Your Best Friend is Cheating? Part I of Many...
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Friends Who Cheat Are Not Reliable...
This is a pretty long story so what I have decided to do is to break it into parts and give "advice" at the end of each segment. This is a true story. The names of the people involved in this story have been changed to protect their reputation and identity, of course, but this really happened to me and my friends. I'm sharing this in the hopes that if you are personally dealing with a friend who is a cheater you can learn from my mistakes. Remember, friends who cheat on their boyfriends (or girlfriends,) that they supposedly "love," are completely untrustworthy. There is nothing to say that they wouldn't sleep with your boyfriend or girlfriend. Even if you think that your partner would never do something like that to you, it is still a danger, everyone has their weak spots. Eventually, after throwing themselves at your partner long enough it could end up happening. On to the story:
For privacy's sake let us call my friend, (who sadly has passed on, now,) Lizzy. Her boyfriend we will call Timmy. Eventually Timmy and Lizzy broke up, but at the time when this event occurred, they were very much still together, “living in sin,” to use the parlance of our times.
Lizzy was a compulsive liar. I met her at the swimming pool the summer before I went into junior high school. It wasn't as much that we were good friends based on mutual respect and a genuine desire to spend time with one another, there was a vein of convenience running a mile wide through our friendship. I knew instinctively that I couldn't trust Lizzy with anything important, she was a fair-weather friend who just needed a shoulder to cry on. Our mutual friends, however, were so highly intertwined that it was impossible for the two of us not to spend time with one another until late into our high school career when Lizzy joined the work-after-school program and I didn't see her much at all for almost another ten years.
During that time I lived my life. I moved to Chicago from the suburbs, made new friends, lost touch with people from high school... it wasn't until after I moved back home to live with my parents after a bad break-up that I regained touch with some of my friends from high school, one of whom was a good friend with Lizzy. We will call her Sheila. Her husband, also named Tim, and her had an open relationship. We all would go over to Lizzy and Timmy's place and play cards, drink and act like impoverished miscreants without anywhere else to go. Good times!
During this time I actually grew a begrudging respect of Timmy. He was a hard man, not the nicest man in the world, but he certainly didn't deserve to date Lizzy, since it was well known that she cheated on him whenever she had the chance. I wanted to tell him that she was stepping out on him, truth be told, we'd grown into more of a friendship than I had with Lizzy. I held my tongue, though. Sheila and Tim also knew that Lizzy was cheating on him, and after talking to them about it they told me it really wasn't my place to tell Timmy about Lizzy's infidelities.
At first, I tried to convince Lizzy to tell Timmy about what she'd been up to. They lived together, though, it became obvious that she wasn't about to give up her home and the man she loved sharing it with. Eventually, the best I could do was to tell her that I didn't want to hear anything about her dalliances with men other than Timmy, it was too hard on my moralities.
About three weeks before Timmy found out, (in the worst possible way,) that Lizzy was cheating on him, she called me to brag about her latest conquest. I had a brief knowledge of the young man in question, (I knew him “around,” from school,) and tried to cut her off at the pass. “Look, Lizzy, I really don't want to know.”
“But, Nicole he was... oh, my god, just so incredible.”
Insert any of the incredibly fantastic sexual fantasies you can imagine into the next 45 seconds of our conversation... that's about as far into as I was willing to get.
“Lizzy, I'm sorry, I got to go. I don't need to hear any of this. You should really tell Timmy what's going on and if you're not willing to, I just don't know if we can be friends anymore if you're going to continue telling me about cheating on him.”
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This is where I throw in my two cents... I feel that if you cannot break off your relationship with a friend who is a cheater there are boundaries you need to set. Don't live vicariously through their infidelities ... make it known that you do not want to hear about their cheating, otherwise you're sending a message that you approve of their behavoir on some level.
If it is possible, try not to make friends with the person your friend is dating. (And respectively cheating on.) Believe me, it is just going to make you feel lousy when you have to keep your mouth shut about your friend and her/his dalliances.
If you are friends with the person, or you do like them, don't tell them your friend is cheating on them. It's just not your place. Try to put up some boundaries to protect yourself. If at all possible, don't hang out with this person unless your cheating friend is around, too. Cheaters are notoriously jealous and they will accuse you of trying to steal / sleep with their partners. (I think it's because they feel bad about what they're doing on some level and want to off-put the blame onto you and their partner.)
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Hi Nicole, very good hub on a moral dilemma. You definitely have the right idea in wanting no part of Lizzy or people like her. But it's also true that as a friend it is NOT your place to bring Lizzy's cheating to Tim's attention. I believe the term for this "between a rock and a hard place" is CONUNDRUM.
I look forward to reading the further episodes. MM
The question I would have to ask anybody is "can you label her as FRIEND"? Would a friend put you in that spot? Then brag about it.
Regards
Triplet Mom: Seriously, in my opinion you are making a good decision in distancing yourself from that kind of drama. Lizzy occasionally would try to make me into her "go to" buddy for excuses as to where she was, and I couldn't stomach it. I eventually got her to stop by telling her that I would personally tell her boyfriend du jour that she *was not* with me and I think she was out with some guy if she *ever* put me in that position again. I'm sorry to hear that your children are intertwined in that situation, my wishes and hopes that it doesn't affect the kids! All you can do is try to be polite to the lady in question... no small feat, but you're a pretty exceptional lady. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment, I appreciate it!
Mighty Mom: Absolutely... and thanks for backing me up on that point, if it's my place, (or anyone's place,) to reveal one's infidelties to another person's partner. Eventually you'll see where keeping my mouth shut got me... I'm going to publish another segment shortly, sorry it took me so long to get back to ya'all's comments, I was on a much needed and purely delightful camping trip, just me and my man! Thanks for coming by and taking the time to read and comment! I appreciate it.
rb11: Seriously! Though, I will say that sometimes you make friends during childhood that are just easy, or convienent or whatever and as you get older you start to realize how *wrong* they are for you. I really had to take a hard look at my life during this time and a lot of changes were made. I think anyone who is in this situation needs to take a step back and weigh the pro's and con's of their relationship. A friend is a terrible thing to waste, but people who cheat and use you as an excuse aren't really being good friends. Thanks for coming by and commenting, rb11, I really appreciate it!
What got me when my friend was cheating on her partner, was that she used me as an excuse! Told him that she was with me, when instead she was getting shagged stupid by someone else. The first few times, I went along with it as I was slightly embarrassed by it as I really like her man. But, I could see after a time, he knew she was up to no good, and I didn't want to be tarred with the same brush, so we had a bit of a falling out. Now he looks at me strangely as if I'm the baddy!
cindyvine: And you shouldn't have to put up with *any* of that, of course! Thanks for coming by and commenting, I appreciate it. I really loved the request, which of course, reminded me of this whole story... I hope even a little of this will still be helpful, I'm sorry I didn't start writing it sooner.
After reading part 2 I agree, even thought Lizzy is wrong with those kind of emotions flowing safety comes first. I get the feeling Lizzy kind of likes the conflict.
Regards
rb11: I agree with you. She did seem to have a flair for drama! Thanks for coming along for the ride & reading part two. I appreciate you taking the time to read and comment.
i actually have a friend who cheats. i am doing my best not to pry into her personal life though i know a bit about the cheating. i do not also ask anything about her relationship with the guy. i do not want to be misconstrued as making her feel that she is doing the right thing.
and yes, i set boundaries. that way, when she gets the courage to tell all then i know where i stand and how i am going to deal with it.
nice post.
bingskee: Thanks for taking the time to read and comment, I really appreciate it! I totally hear where you are coming from. I hope you found this to be useful, good luck with your friend in the future, please keep us updated on anything new if you feel so inclined.
I have a lot of friends male and female who cheat and I know their partners as well. I do not have much problem with it, as it does not affect me. Each individual is free to have the life they feel is better for them. If their choice involves cheating, well, I cannot do anything about it.
I have been trapped in the cheating game too and I know that you don't mean to hurt the other person when you cheat.
Anath: Thank-you for taking the time to read and comment! I appreciate your honesty, it's refreshing. I'm reminded of a Tori Amos quote from one of her songs: "When you love a lot you lie a lot." You're right, if you make sure that it isn't affecting you it isn't as big of a deal as an outsider. But, when people try to make you accountable for their actions it can seriously suck.
My situation is different my boyfriend has a friend who cheats and im starting to think mayb thats what they do when i am not around.please advice
Latty: Wow, that's rough. On the one hand, your boyfriend's friend *could* be a bad influence on him, maybe the two of them do go out cruising for girls when you aren't around. I can't really give you advice without knowing more about the situation. On the other hand, your boyfriend could be an innocent bystander in all this. If you wanted to have a conversation with him about how this makes you feel I would approach it exactly as you did with me. Using a lot of "I" statements, tell your boyfriend how his friend's cheating makes you feel insecure in your relationship with him. Acknowledge that it isn't exactly fair, (after all, your boyfriend isn't the one doing the cheating, as far as you know,) but that it is making you feel extremely uncomfortable with the two of them hanging out when you're not around. Don't ask him to stop hanging out with his friend, chances are it won't work and you don't want to put your relationship on the line by asking him to stop seeing his friend. Even if he did agree it would put him on the defensive in the future when it comes to sharing information with you about his friends. (And as women, we generally *really* need to know who are guys are hanging out with.) Good luck, Latty, please e-mail me at nawinter77@gmail.com if you need to talk.
Last words...
This is the first segment of this story. Be sure to check back now and then, I'll post links to the next segments here. I'd also love it if some of you would leave your own personal stories in the comments section. It'd be best if you left them in the first segment... that way we can make sure that everyone will see them!
















Triplet Mom says:
5 months ago
Nicole - Very timely hub. I am just now distancing myself from a friend that is cheating on her husband. I thought I could still be friends since our children are friends but she has now gone so far as to use me as an excuse. That is where I had to draw the line. I do not want to be part of this charade in any way shape or form. Great advice and story I cannot wait to hear the rest.