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Why Do So Many Hate FOX NEWS So Much

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By Harvey Stelman


It's FOX NEWS Like It Or Not

We have a 24 hour cable news station that is seen across the country and internationally that many people do not recognize. The question is, why not? I have heard people say that FOX has an agenda, really. They present news backed up by facts such as in the Van Jones story. Many of these individuals against FOX say you can’t call what “that station” calls facts. There just may be a problem with their statement on this situation. The words that incriminated Mr. Jones came from his own mouth, and captured on you tubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTXOzAAqnho&feature=PlayList&p=246AD5F290014AAD&index=0&playnext=1 Can a man deny his own words? Yet FOX is blamed for an erroneous report.

Is FOX news lying to you about what Van Jones said; I don’t think so. You did hear the words Mr. Jones himself spoke, didn’t you? Why didn’t other major media outlets show this tape as soon as they saw it? Hmm, that’s a very good question if I don’t say so myself. Usually when a station runs an important story, all other media picks it up. This doesn’t seem to be happening when FOX runs a story first. Are the others being silenced by a higher power, do they think the stories FOX shows are unimportant, do others look down at FOX? If you check the ratings that all stations use, and charge their advertisers by the public says this I not a good thing. FOX is and has been the highest rated cable news station http://www.ihatethemedia.com/12-things-latest-cable-news-ratings

Why Do More People Watch Fox News?

This is really easy to answer, because they get the real story. In some cases, they just get the story as reported on all stations. After all, a good story is a good story. Still there are good stories so called profession journalists will not or are not allowed to cover. That is the simple reason why more people watch FOX News Channel than any other cable news channel. It isn’t even close when you see that FOX beats all other cable news stations combined. When the O’Reilly Factor re-runs after prime time has more viewers than any cable news program, it says a lot.

These FOX People Aren’t Really Journalists!

This may be the biggest argument for not watching FOX. Here is the problem with that statement. Why would stations like CNN hire an on air personality like Kiren Chetry.Ms.Chetryis now one of CNN’s most popular anchors.

It goes the other way also. Bill O’Reilly was a much respected reporter at ABC, why do people that respected his work in the past, say he isn’t credible now?

Greta Van Susteran was also a well respected lawyer, law professor and TV analyst for ABC. She is best known for her work on the O.J Simpson trial.

Why is she hated by those that do not watch FOX?

This one tops them all, Britt Hume. For many years we watched him cover the White House for ABC. Mr. Hume has always been well respected in all circles, until he moved to FOX.

This man was once beloved by all, now the FOX haters want to vilify him.

Bernard Goldberg worked for CBS and NBC for decades. He sat-in for many of the top anchors in the past but the past, and the respect are gone. This happened when he moved to FOX. I guess it’s hate one, hate them all. It must be the same for respect.

These must all be very dangerous people according to the FOX haters. Aren’t YOU scared?

Prime Time

7 P.M. CST. – Bill O’Reilly

Many complain that FOX News is way too conservative, that is said by people that do not watch the station. Like David Letterman said to Bill O’Reilly on “The Late Show.”

Bill: Do you watch my show?

David: No!

Bill: Then how do you know anything about it?

David: Everyone knows what you say, people tell me.

Playing telephone like kids do is now the accepted means for supposedly educated people. That was the last time I watched Letterman, before he did the preceding and called O’Reilly a pin-head for his views, I was a regular Letterman watcher. The Haters call O’Reilly a conservative, actually he is a centrist. The left has gone further left, changing the definition.

8 P.M. CST. - Sean Hannity

As he himself admits, he is a conservative. Like Van Jones, he tells you straight forward who he is. It’s easy to understand why people on the left do not like him.

9 PM. CST. – Greta Van Susteran

Greta is actually a liberal and with her you now have a very balanced Prime Time schedule. All shows have guests representing differing opinions of an issue. It seems the left does not like the right represented. Why not watch and see for yourself?

I must mention Glenn Beck, who now has millions of viewers.

I can understand why many people would not care for his personality but what about the facts presents? Every day I watch him I learn something. His presentation of the facts may be a little different but his facts are ones you can believe, unless you decide not to believe him from the start.

Will The Government Try To Shut Down FOX NEWS?

President Obama, who says his administration will be transparent, is NOT living up to his statement. Call that what you may, but that makes me believe he will try to shut FOX down. The President does not like opposing views and FOX will always challenge what they think is wrong.

 

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jiberish profile image

jiberish  says:
2 months ago

FNC – 1,317,000 viewers

CNN – 489,000 viewers

MSNBC –385,000 viewers

CNBC – 187,000 viewers

HLN – 282,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time

FNC – 2,389,000viewers

CNN— 604,000 viewers

MSNBC –799,000 viewers

CNBC – a scratch w/ 101,000 viewers

HLN – 475,000 viewers

this says it all.

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

Jib,

Thanks, I couldn't find that.

jiberish profile image

jiberish  says:
2 months ago

Anytime! Just go to Neilsen reports.

eovery profile image

eovery  says:
2 months ago

I accidentally turned the channel to MSNBC today. It actually made me sick to hear the garbage they are saying on there. Total sickening garbage.

Keep on hubbing!

Tom Whitworth profile image

Tom Whitworth  says:
2 months ago

Harvey,

I saw conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on CSPAN2 over the weekend. He gave the best explanation of liberals I have ever seen. He says they are like fish. He said a fish doesn't realize it's all wet.

breakfastpop profile image

breakfastpop  says:
2 months ago

People who hate Fox News and say it's biased don't actually watch Fox News!

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

Jib,

Thanks once more!

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

eovery,

I've tried watch them to balance things out. We must be too intelligent to listen to their crap.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

Tom,

That was good. You really have something with the dollar issue.I was concentrating on too many things with a small mind.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

Pop,

You are correct, that's what infuriates me.

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rsmallory  says:
2 months ago

Hi Harvey. Up until about Clinton's second term, I really wasn't that interested in politics. I voted for Bill the first time because I was a democrat at that time. Why? Because my mom was a democrat of course. It was about this time that I started watching and listening more to the political scene. Fox News, Clinton's actions and the party and administration's policies helped me make the transition to the Republican party. I voted for W in his first bid. My awareness has increased dramatically over the last few years and I consider myself to be fair and balanced. I voted for W the 2nd time too-but not because I was blindly following my party. I thought he was the lesser of two evils pure and simple. As for Obama, I of course voted for McCain-again not because I was 100% for the Republicans, but felt he had more integrity and experience. I held out little hope that Obama would be all he said he would be. I depend on Fox to tell me the truth and they deliver every time. They were critical of alot of things Bush did and said as well. I believe in their integrity and their fairness. I hope they never loose sight of it.

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cjv123  says:
2 months ago

It absolutely cracks me up when I hear anyone vilify Fox News or the personalities on it. My question usually is, "Well - how often do you watch Fox News and those people you believe should be "shot for treason?" That is HONESTLY what one lib said to me over the phone. The answer invariably is they don't watch it - they just know! There's another definition of liberals - lemmings...they just follow what they see or in this case, hear. Great hub!

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

RS,

As a former Democrat, I understand you. If the dollar goes under, we will be doomed. That is what he and his ilk want, then we will all need the gov't.

I knew what he was about because I listened to him closly, and know Chicago politics, living in the area.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

CJV,

You got it darlin'! Oops, am I gonna get banned for sexual harrassment.

What you say shows how much they really uderstand.

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tony0724  says:
2 months ago

Harvey people do not like Fox news because It completely shatters the Image of righteousness the Liberals among us claim they maintain . Like you said Fox has probably triple the viewership of any of the other news outlets , so I believe that Is all anyone needs to know !

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 months ago

Tony,

It's just difficult for me to fathom, Americans being so stupid. We were once a people that wanted to see both sides.

greatAmerican profile image

greatAmerican  says:
6 weeks ago

Birds of a feather flock together, and don't expect those

crows sitting in the ACORN tree to change..

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

Great One,

Watch the gov't take ACORN down and all the workers end up working for another company in their chain.

You'll only see it on FOX!

critnour profile image

critnour  says:
6 weeks ago

bravo Harvey!

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Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

critnour,

Thanks lots.

jon ewall  says:
6 weeks ago

Viewers who watch abc,cbs,nbc and cnn suck up all the liberal talking points as gospel.They haven't a clue as to all the facts of what news should be all about.

I would suggest that all those fox haters take the time to view the fox programs before making judgement.

Fox seems to out view the other news media for some reason.

Check it out for yourself and compare the news.

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

jon,

Most people can't face reality, head in sand etc. Others are nothing but followers and don't forget how many idiots we have in this country.

Union members are probably told not to watch it.

REF profile image

REF  says:
6 weeks ago

Thank you for your HUB. I am so tired of the left media, left bloggers and all other left entities that continually downgrade us calling us dumb and stupid, that we can't think or reason for ourselves. Fox News gives it to us straight with backed up facts that we can check out for ourselves. The other networks need to do some fact checking themselves, it might help them, on second thoughts they wouldn't understand. REF

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Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

REF,

Hi! That's why FOX news is doing so well in the ratings, people like you are sick of their bable. Now the White House has come out against FOX, Obama strikes again. He hates ANY bad press.

Misha profile image

Misha  says:
6 weeks ago

I don't hate them. That said, I don't watch them. That said, I don't watch TV at all. :)

tony0724 profile image

tony0724  says:
6 weeks ago

I watch alot of Football now !

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Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

Misha,

That said, I have nothing to say.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

Tony,

Hey, football is on FOX!

JON EWALL  says:
6 weeks ago

HI HARVEY

TODAY (10/13/09 ) GLEN BECK HAD A DIRECT TELEPHONE LINE INSTALLED TO THE WHITEHOUSE .REASON BEING IS THAT THE WHITEHOUSE STATED THAT FOX NEWS DON'T REPORT THE TRUTH ABOUT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ACTIVITIES.

GLEN BECK CHALLENGED THE WHITEHOUSE TO CALL HIM DIRECT WHEN HIS REPORTING IS INACCURATE ,IF HE'S IS WRONG HE WILL CORRECT THE SITUATION IMMEDIATELY.

SORRY TO SAY HE DIDN'T GET A CALL.

THIS WEEK BROADCASTS WILL REVEAL SOME MORE TRUTHS THAT YOU WON'T SEE IN THE NEWS MEDIA OR IN THE NEWSPAPERS.

GLEN WOULD HOPE THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WATCH THIS WEEK.

TODAY IN THE SENATE THEY PASSED A HEALTHCARE BILL AGAIN WITHOUT THE BILL'S FINAL CONTENT.

WAKE UP AMERICA ,CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN WASHINGTON AND ASK THEM TO JUSTIFY THEIR VOTES ON A PARTIAL BILL.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

Jon,

I taped and watched Beck this morning. You can learn more about government watching him than anywhere else.

Know one can justify a vote because the bill hasn't been finished. When has Congress voted this way before?

Hi-Jinks profile image

Hi-Jinks  says:
6 weeks ago

Fair and balance? I watched Fox and their various programs. I must say your standards are low. I remember watching them when they were debating the "You Lie!" line. Fox gave a white Republican full time to say their thoughts in full, but when a black Democrat started to speak, he was cut off. Is this how Fair and balance works?

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Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

Hi-Jinks,

Belittling me wiil get you nothing. Would you like me to comment on your lack of understanding of how to say, Fair and Balannced. You watched FOX and their various programs. The programs are not to be differentiated from FOX.

You gave an example of one interview you saw, no names. Would you like me to say; I saw black Republican's debating White Democrat's and they gave more time to either person? That was one interview and the same thing happens on all stations.

By the way, Obama did lie. That's not even the point, they all lie.

Please tell me what accomplishments Obame has has in almost a year? Please don't say, the Republican's stopped him, Republican's have no power.

greatAmerican profile image

greatAmerican  says:
6 weeks ago

Harvey, the Republicans have no power and they have NO GUTS

Do not expect them to watch Glenn Beck, Heaven forbid they should ever give him Credit for pointing out the Traitors our President has surrounded himself with in our White House! Did Beck lie about Acorn or Van Jones?

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Harvey Stelman  says:
6 weeks ago

Great One,

You are correct! The Repub's get all this great info and don't use it. Using all the info would leave Obama with no advisors. Throw in tax cheats and we have an empty White House.

Did you ever write songs, you're good at it.

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ehern33  says:
5 weeks ago

I am a little late reading this hub but must say I am in agreement. I rarely watch the other networks but I guess I better or I will be no better than the Libs not watching Fox. So when they questioned Bush's policy it was Ok but heaven forbid we question this administration-and Fox is the only one doing that now.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

ehern,

Well, we agree. That's not like Obama and most of America.

FOX: They scare him, he has no idea how to HANDLE them. Obama is a man of little achievement, that got lucky. What does he hie by not revealing his school grades.

When challenged he say; "now, now, now, I don't want to get into that." That's supposed to be the end of it. I believe him to be of the highest grade, when it comes to narcisism and marxism.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

ehern,

Well, we agree. That's not like Obama and most of America.

FOX: They scare him, he has no idea how to HANDLE them. Obama is a man of little achievement, that got lucky. What does he hie by not revealing his school grades.

When challenged he say; "now, now, now, I don't want to get into that." That's supposed to be the end of it. I believe him to be of the highest grade, when it comes to narcisism and marxism.

Hi-Jinks profile image

Hi-Jinks  says:
5 weeks ago

Belittling me wiil get you nothing. How did I do that? You should do better than playing victim. I watch Fox until their first obvious lie. Even the local Fox station can't get it right. I'm from Wisconsin near Green Bay. That station Played its Fair and Balance song with the Health Care rebate. That station couldn't find any one from the Wisconsin Republican party to talk against Obama health care bill, so they got some unknown from Florida.

I must say that Beck is one of Fox bigest lier, especially with flu shots. It's on TV everywhere with Bill O'rierly (Sp).

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Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

Jinx,

If Beck is such a liar; why is his audiance growing so rapidly? When Anita Dunn called FOX out, Beck responded and asked her to call whenever she hears a lie. Surprise, no calls!

When you hear a lie, please e-mail me with it. I have a feeling I won't be hearing from you.

You were the one that said I have low standards.

Hi-Jinks profile image

Hi-Jinks  says:
5 weeks ago

Don't be foolish with your time. You hear what you want to hear. You seem intellect. I suggest you find more sources for information.

Beck is a ringmaster. Would you go to war with him?

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Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

Jinx,

Yes, I would go to war with Beck! Would you go to war with Obama?

Not all my info comes from FOX, but this IS a FOX article.

You probably still blame everything on Bush. What has happened to the debt since BO took over? Do you know people out of work; there will be more?

The dollar is worth less every day. What happens if China calls in their bonds? Print-print-print, then your money becomes worthless.

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Arch Stanton  says:
5 weeks ago

I believe FOX is biased, but I do not chastise or blame them for it. I believe they have a conservative leaning and thats perfectly fine. I watch both CNN and FOX. I'm a libertarian for the record. Every human in the world is biased, thats a fact. I think Shepard smith and Wolf Blitzer respectably do the best reporting on the stations. That is just my opinion. Good article.

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Hi-Jinks  says:
5 weeks ago

Today, Beck gives a lecture on glass buildings. He hates them. I guess no one reminded him that the World Trade Building were also glass.

May I remind you a quote attributed to a great Republican something about "Fooling all the people some of the time and so on..."

Obama won't start needless wars. Bush is on record that he has.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

Arch,

This is still America and you are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone. Point: Smith is an anchor, I know Blitzer was a reporter, not sure now. The ones that give opinions are talk show hosts.

I still think Beck (as crazy as he is) brings forth the best facts and connects the dots.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

Jinx,

That quote was by a Democrat, FDR. Here's the quote.

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but not all of the people all of the time."

I didn't see Beck today, I taped him for the morning.

War: Sure Bush started a war, two of them.

Iraq: Intelligence agencies from the USA, the UK, France and Russia all said Iraq had WMD's. Saddam Hussein said he had WMD's (he had already gassed 10,000 Kurds). Wouldn't you believe all of them? Why have these agencies if you don't believe them?

Why, oh why, oh why Jinx!

BO has increased troops in Afghanistan

Hi-Jinks profile image

Hi-Jinks  says:
5 weeks ago

1858 – Abraham Lincoln told an assembled crowd in Clinton, Illinois, "You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but not all of the people all of the time."

As for Afghanistan, Obama is cleaning up what Bush started.

The UN observers were on the ground in Iraq inspecting. Bush needed a reason and you should know He and his group made it up. That is the truth. Those men and women died for a lie. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

Jinx,

I just don't get you, so many President's have cleaned up what their predessor started. Bush may have paid to clean Monica's dress!

I already explained why it wasn't a lie. Obama doesn't lie? He simply changes his wording. Campaign promises, change.

Are we still in Iraq?

Are we expanding th fight in Afghanistan?

Is Gitmo closed?

Is he bi-partisan?

Does he do background checks on his appointees?

Why are so many of the above Communists or Marxist's.

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
5 weeks ago

Jinx,

I just don't get you, so many President's have cleaned up what their predessor started. Bush may have paid to clean Monica's dress!

I already explained why it wasn't a lie. Obama doesn't lie? He simply changes his wording. Campaign promises, change.

Are we still in Iraq?

Are we expanding th fight in Afghanistan?

Is Gitmo closed?

Is he bi-partisan?

Does he do background checks on his appointees?

Why are so many of the above Communists or Marxist's.

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drcrischasse  says:
4 weeks ago

Fox News reports what the dems do not want to hear, the truth.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
4 weeks ago

dr,

You speak the truth also.

hglick profile image

hglick  says:
4 weeks ago

Harvey,

Right on!! I'm sick and tired of people who are deaf, dumb and blind to the problems of this administration, and believe everything they say. I am also an ex-Democrat who supported W but vocally got pissed off at some of the crap he pulled like backing the first stimulus(ear-mark) package. Why don't these people who voted for Obama do the same? Because they're intellectually dishonest. Fox news is all about "fair and balanced" Hannity is a Reagan conservative, but Van Susteren supported Hillary. The last I heard, Hillary was not a Republican.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
4 weeks ago

hglick,

I'm like you, as far as parties go. The American public is so slow to react, they wait until it hits them.

Buddy  says:
4 weeks ago

Harvey,

Do you ever wonder what would happen if Fox News wasn't around? I fear there will always be people who don't want to know the truth and to spread false truth. And these people will continue to fight to spread false truth. And we as Americans must fight for as long as it takes to get the real truth out there and maybe look towards a brighter future for America. And Fox News is probably the only one where real truth is reported.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
4 weeks ago

Buddy,

You've got it right, but this has been the first time the press was sucked in. That's besides FDR being in a wheelchair.

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jiberish  says:
4 weeks ago

Harvey I know why they hate Fox, it's because they won't promote Obama's agenda. I wrote about MSNBC and why they are favored, seems money talks.

Patrice52 profile image

Patrice52  says:
3 weeks ago

Harvey, I didn't see the "You lie" interview the other hubber was talking about, but did catch another interview with a Republican and Democrat. I was shocked. The Republican was asked her questions first, took all the time she needed to answer, with a very pleasant exchange between her and the interviewer. And then...he turned to the Democrat. He would ask her a question and before she barely got two words out of her mouth he would rudely interrupt her. He never let her complete a whole sentence. He ended up getting a bit loud and hostile with "it's a simple question, yes or no?", but then still didn't let her finish a sentence. The difference in the time of the interview and the treatment between these two women absolutely floored me, and I remember thinking that if I were a Democrat, I wouldn't under any circumstance be interviewed by anyone on Fox, and then wondering, had this Democrat not SEEN Fox news before she agreed to this interview? From what I've seen, I do have to say I can't blame a Democrat for not watching Fox.

Then the other night on Fox, I saw an analyst explain to all the conservatives that the unemployment rate going up in various states proved that Obama's incentive did not create or save the jobs they claimed. I thought, not much of an analyst here. It does in fact prove the economy is getting worse (something we all know), but in fact does not prove that the jobs claimed weren't created by the stimulus. He then fixated on one l5 million dollar project that had created three jobs (5 million a job, he laughed). He got a kick out of this and chuckled quite a bit, as he dwelled on it. It was easy for me to see that that project was obviously one of the pet projects put into the stimulus bill, but whether it was a Republican pet project or Democrat pet project we don't know, because he didn't tell this.

By the way, one of my gripes with Obama was that the stimulus bill went out with all the pet projects in it, as he promised to stop this kind of behavior. He could have, in fact, vetoed that bill and sent it back, requring them to take out the pet projects. But to my disappointment he didn't. Sorry this comment was so long!

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Harvey Stelman  says:
3 weeks ago

Patrice,

Don't worry, my Hub was longer than your comment. Personally, I'm a "big mouth and a wordy writer."

Since you didn't reference the individuals by name, I can't say much. I have a feeling you may be talking about Beck and O'Reilly. I believe they sometimes don't let people talk enough. Bill always likes to control a conversation, but sometimes I appreciate it. Like when someone is going off on a tangent or plail lying.

I've seen this for many years with moderators taking either side. This is difficult to answer because I only have your words to go by, not that I don't believe you.

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Patrice52  says:
3 weeks ago

I didn't give the name because I wasn't certain of it. It was an evening show and I believe his name was Hannity, or something like that (dark headed and fortiesh). It wasn't O'Reilly or Beck. I do know them well. The analyst was on another evening show with an attractive, blond-headed young woman hosting the show.

Sorry I can't be more specific than that, I'm terrible with names, and this is not confined to Fox news. Have a nice day.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
3 weeks ago

Pat,

The only woman host at night is Great Van Sustren, she is a liberal. Sean Hannity says up front that he is a conservative.

It does happen on all stations. What matters is the questions they ask and the investigating they do. Be well.

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Patrice52  says:
3 weeks ago

The questions they ask are very important. However, you'd also like to hear the answers to those questions, from both sides. Otherwise, what was the point of doing the interview at all?

Thank's for your time, I do realize these are different opinions and something there is really no answer to.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
3 weeks ago

Pat,

I hear many answers that I like and dislike, so I am perplexed.

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bill yon  says:
2 weeks ago

Fox News are liars and they are promoting racial hatred the tea party movement are paid activist paid by KOCH the 9th richest man in america whose mission is to discredit stall stop anything that the democrats come up with.the republican party are traitors to all americans and have allied themselves with racist congress woman bachman calling for violence backed up by Fox news.Fox news has been caught red handed faking these so called tea party rallies,Palin and other republicans some of them elected Republicans flying across seas to china trying to turn china against america these are acts of treason but you listen to them because they play on your fears fox news Glenn Beck and Hannity cannot even voice their own real oppinions they are voiceing the views of their boss because he tells them what to say when to say it,thats another fact that has been revealed but still you blindly follow these puppets everything I have stated is facts if you take the time to research these matters you find that you are being played like fools and your republican party has been invaded and taken over by racist extremeist and conspiracy theorist and your leaders are welcoming these lunatic unstable nutcases History will judge you all as fear-mongering hate-mongering fools.This new Republican party thats emerging will be the death of America,and you will have NO one to blame except yourselves.I'm amazed how you stand up in anger and voice your oppinions when you wasn't angry when Bush Stole the presidency,you wasn't angry when Bush lied to your face to get us trapped off in Iraq.you wasn't angry when bush/cheney revealed the identity of a C.I.A. operative because she tried to tell that their intelligence was not true,only to go to war and get america bogged down in a quagmire,all behind a lie.LIARS will be the legacy of the Republican Party.American soldiers dieing on the battlefield because of LIES.Fox News are PUPPETS their PUPPET MASTER IS THEIR BOSS who has openely admitted that all the news shows of Fox will say what HE wants them to say.Research the matter.BECK,O'reily and Hannity are nothing more than puppets.And I don't fault them Hell I wouldn't want to lose my job either.thats the truth.take the TIME to research FOX news and WHATS going on with the republican party and you will see that you are being played for a fool.

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 weeks ago

Bill,

It has been asked many times; show me proof of the lies that FOX says. The President does it all the time. Two days ago the White House said the Stimulus Package has saved 490 teaaching jobs in North Chicago, Illinois. Problem: There only 290 teachers there. Who lied!

Hatred & Beatings: The only beating I have seen are on youtube. In St. Louis two men wearing SEIU tee-shirts beat an African-American man handing out American flags.

Hannity & Beck facts: I'll bet you didn't say these things about Beck when he was on CNN. You have NO proof.

You left out George Soros and his money.

Racist Republicans: The head of the party is, Michael Steele, an African-American.

You talk, but not with your mouth. Do you understand all these 1 or 2,000 page bills? Congress doesn't!

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bill yon  says:
2 weeks ago

you are living in denial.you can't look at fox news and see the hate?you are blind.Rupert Murdoch owns Fox news Beck,Oreily,and Hannity report what they report because Murdoch tells them to!Rupert Murdoch has admitted this fact many times!you afraid to look into these things because you know I am right.Fox news FAKES THE NEWS!THEY HAVE BEEN BUSTED FOR FAKING NEWS!if you think I am Lieing research it for yourself.But you won't do that,the truth is the truth whether you believe are not.

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
2 weeks ago

Bill,

Send me a link that confirms this, I'll read it. Please not someones blog!

bill yon profile image

bill yon  says:
2 weeks ago

I posted this link a few seconds ago and it vanished lets try it again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K2pLo8JV5Y if that doesn't work go to youtube and put in rupert murdoch.

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bill yon  says:
2 weeks ago

did you check it out?

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
2 weeks ago

Bill,

Sometimes a person has other things to do, a rarety for me. I did watch the video and I come away with a different take than you.

Murdoch says they supported President Bush, and failed in any sttempt to manipulate people. Funny that ABC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS and CNN admit to nothing. Don't you think they all backed Obama? Never a bad story on him, is that honest?

NBC, owned by GE is on the hookto Obama. GE stands to get billion's of dollars in "GREEN" money. CEO Jeffrey Immelt has been appointed by Obama to over see on a government committee. Don't you see where all this is heading?

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bill yon  says:
2 weeks ago

What about the fox producer getting busted on camera for coaching the "angry" tea-party demonstrators?have you seen that one?that don't make you wonder about FOX? if their faking grassroots movements,thats O.K.?

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
2 weeks ago

Bill,

What are organizations like ACORN doing, you can throw in SEIU. Don't you know any union workers you can ask. The unions pressure people to go union and tell them how to vote. If you don't go along, you get harrassed.

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bill yon  says:
2 weeks ago

I'm talking about FOX producers coaching tea-party demonstrators on how to act and look angry on camera,just so fox can play it and say "Look its a angry grass roots movement!" faking the news doesn't that bother you?

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
2 weeks ago

Bill,

That is exactly what ACORN does and the President knows this. He was a community organizer for them.

Who do you think follows easier; those over or under 30?

MFB III profile image

MFB III  says:
2 weeks ago

I haven't seen this many brains washed since McCarthyism. Everybody's a Communist except those who watch Fox. Maybe I should go get a shirt printed like the one I saw at a tea baggers party that said, and I quote!

"Shoot Michelle and her two stupid kids."

Granted there are some good folks that watch fox, but a lot of Neo Nazi's, Skinheads, racists, Sons of the confederacy and other disturbed people also watch and believe the fabrication as well as the balance of some truths. And a lot of them might be considering doing a followup with a bullet or two. But of course many of the right wing extremist would applaud that behind closed doors and smug patriotic faces. Let's face it... it's tough when you lose an election, and then make the winners out to be losers, just to rebuild your self image and insecurity.

Here's a fact for Jiberrish...how befitting a name....Only one million three hundred or so people watch Fox, but roughly 32,075,000 people "prefer" to watch something else. That is a true telling statistic on what Fox offers a minority of the people. Squeeze your flaccid tea bags over that. And let's see if this comment gets approval. Fat chance!~~MFB III

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Harvey Stelman  says:
2 weeks ago

MFB,

I am going to try to answer respectfully. I will start by giving you some info on FOX. More people watch cable news on FOX than CNN, MSNBC and all other cable stations combined. The day the terrorist attack took place at Ft. Hood, 5 million people watched Bill O'Reilly. That one hour show beating all other stations by itself.

FOX ratings go up every time the Democrat's do something the public doesn't want, frequently.

Who watches FOX? It's split pretty equally according to polls. Leading the way now Independants followed closley by Liberal's. The last category is Conservatives.

There are liberal commontator's on FOX daily; are there Conservative's on other station's?

The tee-shirt you said you saw would be put down by anyone on FOX. You made no reference to Nancy Pelosi and her Nazi reference, why not?

At Tea Parties the only arrests are of Union thugs beating people. Tea-Parties leave the demonstration area clean. These are mostly parents and grandparents. At Liberal demonstrations they leave tons of garbage behind. These are the people that talk,"GREEN." That's enough.

MFB III profile image

MFB III  says:
2 weeks ago

32 million beats even five million any hour....5 Mill is still a "minority" of the people, a dwindling republican party.

I will not even stain your hub with some of the nasty, racist, hateful, threatening and traitorous dogma that your so called parents and grandparents carried on signs and tee shirts this year and last at your clean and green tea events.

I was not aware of a Pelosi Nazi comment but it sounds like a fox fabrication. I'll look for the sound bite.

Just because people watch something doesn't guarantee superiority, note the Jerry Springer show. It also got people's dander up.

Fox should write fiction on the side, projections of all of the horror we will be forced to live under, when Obama seals the borders, and enslaves us to a freedomless society, while killing off the old people with death squads, and brainwashing our kids through school speeches, and spending us into bankruptcy, much like bush did but worse.

I'm sorry but ...The majority of Americans out here that see through this "say anything to get folks to watch".

We are intelligent people, who know that Obama is probably the most scrutunized, and harrassed president ever, and not one of us would ever stand by and allow the so called marxist...communist rule, under Obama that Fox says is coming, nor would we allow any "real"

loss of our freedoms, other then those privacy rights lost under Bush. I am an ex-marine sharpshooter, who would defend to the death our freedoms from anyone who seeks to remove it.

Exaggarations and fabrications that stir up a specific group of disgruntled election losers, is an old tatic to make sure the mid term elections lean a bit more towards the republican side...that's what all of this rhetoric is truly about.

We have seen all of this before, with attacks on Al Gore, Kerry, and every other opposing candidate.

But sadly brainwashing is very effective, to those who have lost their leadership and direction, and wander in splintered groups, under the soothing voice, and the oh so the scary voices of a bunch of blathering radio and T.V. talking heads. Some of them with no more than a high school diploma, like Glen Beck, whose intelligence is fueled more by rage, than education. That's enough.

I would rather not waste time trying to reach those already lost to some fictional, Orwellian hopeless future.

I would rather choose to direct my energy and writing to those who are the majority, who believe in America rather then some sly fox stirring up the chickens over a sky that is not falling, so that he can get them out of thier henhouses enmass and then devour the ratings. ~~MFB III

bill yon profile image

bill yon  says:
2 weeks ago

well a big fat AMEN to that MFB,I'm a vet myself,and I am making my way over to your hub to see what else you have to say.

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
2 weeks ago

Bill,

A vet; whose military? I haven't met a vet with your take on Obama. I have it from two coloniel's that the military hates B.O. They have been in the military for almost three decades and keep getting redeployed. What branch and unit were you in? What was your rank?

Here's something for both parties to read.

Amendment 28

>

> Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of

> the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or

> Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the

Senators

> or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens

> of the United States .

>

hglick profile image

hglick  says:
9 days ago

For you kool-aid drinking anti-fox morons, What do you think of MSNBC? Fair and balanced? You guys rant with talking points fed to you by this administration, whose goal it is to suck every last penny from your pockets through tax and spend policies. Lets see how well off you are in 2 years. Is 10.2% unemployment high enough for you?

Are you enjoying the devalueing of our dollar by the printing of money to pay for those earmarks in the stimulus bills brought to you by Obama, Pelosi and Reid?

Check out this video from MSNBC with two of your heroes: Keith Oberfuhrer and Janeane Garafolo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAAHMDpk7Ik

This total arrogance by this administration and it's supporters (most of the media) is making most of America very angry and will eventually remove most of these agenda driven leftists from office. Unfortunately we'll all be left to clean up the mess. The only people not recognizing what is happening are the kool-aid drinkers.

hglick profile image

hglick  says:
9 days ago

MFB said "I would rather choose to direct my energy and writing to those who are the majority, who believe in America rather then some sly fox stirring up the chickens over a sky that is not falling, so that he can get them out of thier henhouses enmass and then devour the ratings"

The people who watch FOX news ARE THE MAJORITY Mr. Genius.

See: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-bakers-dozen-f

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
9 days ago

H,

Are yo inferring these people may be idiots? That's not nice, ;of course they are.

Watch the 2012election closly. B.O. won't do as well with the Aferican-American voters. In fact he will do worse with everyone.

cjv123 profile image

cjv123  says:
8 days ago

OK - Hi-jinks - it's "fair and balanced," not "fair and balance". If your listening comprehension and grammar are any indication of your ability to retain factual information no less share any - well - I've already made my case just pointing that out, haven't I?

The rest is for Hi-jinks, and that scary kook Bill Yon - and the charming MFB the third no less. Hmmmm...I'm impressed... LOL! Harvey - you're a SAINT - ooops - you're one of THOSE --- a JEW - so you don't DO Saints - but take it as a compliment my friend ( ;-) ) for even allowing some of these buffoons here to have a venue. Such vitriolic, and as usual, ill-informed nonsense!

The retorts are childish at best, tragically ignorant at worst (or is that the other way around??).

Any REGULAR viewer, and not the "hit and miss" viewers - like those here who have continuously used ONE example each (which I totally call into question BTW) -- supposedly as their "educated" study of Fox News and their ability to be "fair and balance" - ahem...balanced...would know that there are two separate ways to watch Fox News. There is NEWS and OPINION. That would be TWO different types of programing for those unable to distinguish as is obvious by their answers here. For the brain-challenged - when you say, "Guest" that would indicate OPINION programing. They don't have to be "fair and balance" when the host makes it clear what their personal opinions are based upon, it's THEIR show - they can have whatever guests they want and they can cut off whoever they want. That may be rude - but that's life. At least liberals GET a forum on Fox OPINION programing.

To expalin: The OPINION portion - that's where the commentator gives their OPINION and on Fox they are OPEN about their leanings -- repeated for the dense - there are times when the host will allow one point of view to go longer than the other point of view.

There are also OPINION PORTIONS of the News Programing - they'll call it "Panels" or something like that. Juan Williams, a TOTAL liberal - you'd be crazy if you called him anything else - I've listened to for years now on Fox and while I almost never agree with him, I love to listen to him because he's not a LOON. How could I know this if Fox "never" let the other side speak? What about Bob Beckel? Conservative? No. Republican? No. Moderate, heck NO - but I have heard hours of his opinion because I actually WATCH Fox OPINION programing, I don't just show up, watch ONE interview, get hacked because the liberal guest gets shown up and then go on a very ill-informed rant about how "unfair" Fox is. Excuse me - but your ignorance is showing...

Then every single weekday - that would be five days a week, all year for years now - DANG if I can't think of her name - the NPR woman - she's GREAT - name escapes me at the moment - shoulder length dark hair -- anyway -- Because I like to STAY INFORMED instead of basing my opinions on what my friend's say when we gather around for beer and poker - I LISTEN to these people. Those -- GASP -- LIBERALS on Fox. Oh wait, there aren't any there, so says the liberals here!

I don't AGREE with these non-existent liberals most of the time, but I listen to these liberals on Fox News - because I WANT to know what they think. BTW - these are not one-time guests, these people are REGULARS on Fox. They're intelligent, thoughtful liberals (most of them) and I enjoy hearing their side.

We just had a discussion above about the OPINION programing portions of Fox News. For the knuckle draggers who have posted answers here--that's Glen Beck, Hannity, Mike Huckabee for example. They have OPINON programs.

Greta is neutral - she always has both sides and in fact you rarely know her opinion on issues except in certain legal cases - she's a lawyer after all.

O'Rielly is a Libratarian and I remember him hammering George Bush so much at one point, I wouldn't watch him any more - so you can't sell him as a Republican or Conservative.

Now - I challenge anyone here, when watching the NEWS ONLY portion of Fox News to find ONE SINGLE SOLITARY LIE that is reported. Watch for one week - seven FULL days of the NEWS ONLY and take notes if you will - if you need help with knowing the difference between the NEWS portion and the Opinion portion after this lesson -then I can't help you and it's best you just -- well - shut up.

But seriously - please post here verifiable LIES that anyone who has watched Fox NEWS (by verifiable I mean - if you noted the date, time of broadcast and what the news reporter said and show PRIMARY SOURCE proof for Fox News factually LYING about what they were reporting on -that's enough for me) - with the emphasis on NEWS I promise -- you will have a very eager listener in me because I haven't found one LIE yet. And I've been listening for years to Fox NEWS almost daily.

My first source for truth is the Bible - I HATE lies and liars. I don't and won't listen to them. So show me I'm wrong!

My suggestion though is - not one of these "tough guys" here is man enough to take me up on this because they KNOW they can't do it. They know they'll be proven wrong or at least are AFRAID to be proven so.

And Dudes - you go after me? I'll cut you off at the knees - I'm not as nice as Harvey - I won't give you a forum for your utter nonsense. I don't want to dirty up my Hub...

But I PROMISE I will write an entire HUB about any intentional LIE that ANY news reporter has reported on Fox News. Even just ONE. If you will show me proof right here - and do as I've asked. Follow the instructions now - and if your Mom can't understand the instructions when she reads them to you - I'll consider accepting her email...

I was joking about that last part - but not about the challenge.

Lanie Davies - come on - help me here - the guy who talked super fast and just got fired - he was on for YEARS! The BET famous host too he's been on a bunch of times - ALL REALLY CONSERVATIVE - right? OH - they're LIBERALS! My bad!

Colmes - he's SUPER liberal. Now this is a test - I want any of you lug-heads who claim that NO LIBERAL GETS A VOICE ON FOX NEWS to name just THREE and I'm talking about REGULAR guests like I've just named for Fox - CONSERVATIVES who are on: CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC - did I leave anyone out? And I want you to name three EACH for EACH of those stations.

cjv123 profile image

cjv123  says:
8 days ago

And Gas Mask Dude - IF you truly are or were in the Armed Forces - I thank you for your service -- sincerely. But your ignorant rantings here? They don't do you or the military any justice - you're an embarrassment - you literally are RANTING - look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about. Be CIVIL - look that up too - THINK before you write or post - stop trying to make your point by being inflammatory - and making wild claims you can't back up with PRIMARY sources (a BLOG isn't a PRIMARY SOURCE). And DO NOT get personally insulting with Harvey - you really look like an idiot - trust me. You're not even in his league when it comes to the written word. Just be calm and have a discussion - it's what intelligent people do in CIVILIZED conversation.

Harvey Stelman profile image

Harvey Stelman  says:
8 days ago

cjv,

Whoa, calm down girl! I don't want anyone to get a coronary due to my page, or any. I feel like a young pup whose mom fought off a big bully, I'm safe now.

You make very good points about opinions and new being different, many people don't understand that.

I believe the lady you are thinking of is, Mora Liason.

May I say; I agree with everything you say. I try to stay calm because Hub once banned me. In reall life, I would mmake a phone call.I'm not going to say to whom; you know I'm joking!

cjv123 profile image

cjv123  says:
8 days ago

I'd love to be your pit bull Harvey! It's kinda fun! LOL!

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Harvey Stelman  says:
8 days ago

cjv,

Ruff-Ruff!

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