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Another hub has this very same name and my comments were deleted. All they want to hear is that PORN is bad for every single man on this earth. This is not true at all.
I commented that such men and couples that have problems with Erectile Dysfuncion need porn. It isn't what the porn is but how the person or man looks at it. Even that is subjective to personal definition.
I mentioned that when a guy goes to the Urologist for such a problem the first thing they are examined for is prostrate problems. Then they are asked to give a sample of semen in a cup--if they can get that. They are asked to get an erection. I guess the lady that wrote that article was too shy to talk about such things, but not shy enough to write about porn.
I also wrote that couples in sex therapy use porn to help their relationship and that was censored as well because they said that sex therapy is another issue. .....BUT it isn't another issue because they stated that all porn is bad for all men-----even the one's in sex therapy? Porn is Porn as to her article.
There be PORN stories in the Bible: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/Bible/Song_of_Solomon.html
The article is here: http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-Pornography-is-Bad-for-Men
The body is a beautiful thing. I mean come on if we were given this body to walk around and do all sorts of things with it and to it then it is up to us the see it as a beautiful thing.
A blanket statement that porn is bad for men is not the case. It isn't when used properly and in maarriage and both know it is being used to further their relationship.
What do you think of sex toys, are they bad for all too?
Know this: No one's comments will be deleted here!
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Information about Sex, Porn Sexual Relationships etc...
Eight Healthy Hints For Better Sex exerpt from article:
"Dr. Beverly Whipple, professor emerita at Rutgers University and co-author of Science of Orgasm, warns against attributing problems in the bedroom to just one or two causes.
“My definition of sexuality is holistic,” she says. “It’s not just the genitals and their functions, but it also expresses all the ways that make us who we are behaviorally, socially, culturally, emotionally, spiritually and psychologically.” "
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Sinclair Intimacy Insititute
A bit about their organization:
"The Sinclair Intimacy Institute™ is the leading source of sexual health products for adults who want to improve the quality of intimacy and sex in their relationships. Since 1991, Sinclair has developed an extensive library of videos and products covering everything from advanced sexual positions to erectile dysfunction solutions. The best selling Better Sex Video Series, has sold more than four million videos in over 30 countries. Sinclair videos aid in adult sex education help individuals learn about sexuality in the privacy of their home. Working with a diverse team of professional sex educators and therapists, we create products that work by fostering communication and creativity between partners. Our Better Sex videos address topics many people find difficult or embarrassing to discuss. "
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Sexual Recovery Institute
A bit about their site:
"The Sexual Recovery Institute is a specialty therapy agency directed toward the treatment of sexual addiction.
Founded in 1995 by Robert Weiss, LCSW, CAS as a local agency to meet the needs of sexually addicted men, women and their loved ones, The Sexual Recovery Institute has grown to a current staff of 7 therapists, serving over 125 people weekly in group, individual and intensive sexual addiction treatment. The agency provides local programs for individuals and couples residing all over Southern California while also hosting persons seeking intensive treatment from throughout The United States and abroad."
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The Kinsey Institute
Somethig about them:
"The Kinsey Institute at Indiana University promotes interdisciplinary research and scholarship in the fields of human sexuality, gender, and reproduction. The Institute was founded in 1947, just before the publication of Sexual Behavior in the Human Male in 1948. Today the Institute investigates sexual behavior and sexual health, and carries out its mission through:
- development of collections of resources for scholars;
- programs of research and research publications;
- presentation of interdisciplinary conferences and seminars;
- provision of information services for the general public;
- provision of student-oriented sexuality information services through the internet;
- and graduate training. "
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Google Search for Biological Human Sexuality: [ADDED 2/07/09}
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=biological+human+sexuality&btnG=Search
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The History Channel --- History of Sex Complete
Ther is some adult art and paintings of body parts that some of you may find similar to your definitions of porn. I context that the body is beautiful and was given to us by GOD to live in and enjoy and it is perfect in his eyes--no matter what we chose to do with it. Educate yourselves with this video. You will learn alot of how religions and covering up body parts came about. It also talks about Lilith and who she was and what they did with her story and how women became the bad part of society.
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Quite an informative hub, and a breath of fresh air after reading that stifling hitler-esque hub! I agree 100%!
lol, yeah I think it's a personal vendetta Lady, I really thought that I would get censored too! Just posted another, we'll see!
It does not make sense to me that in religions the Human Body is so disgusting yet God gave us it to use and live through and with and reproduce and everything that he made was good----where di it go wrong , why and how?
Well religion expert I am NOT, but I could have sworn that somewhere in her "Bible" which is supposedly the book that she worships by, I could have sworn it said something in there to that effect...about God being perfect and never making a mistake and all that good stuff....so if God never makes a mistake then all bodies are to be considered beautiful....and wasn't there something about two people running around naked all the time? Until...who was it...a snake? Or the Devil? Told them that this was bad....so if the Devil says that looking at the human form (or exposing it for that matter) is a bad thing, then doesn't that make it inherently good? Just my opinion.
It does say that and yes it was a snake. Oh and has she read The Song Of Soloman--she would be appalled at the language and mind imagery it has there.
I just posted this on her comments--
Who are you??? There are other opposing views here but mine get deleted......fess up! What have you aganst me for I dont even know you and you don't know me!
That didn't stay too long before she unapproved it.
Great hub, Lady G, one of my favorite writers is Henry Miller who wrote very graphically about sex and was banned here in the United States for quite some time and whether someone likes to deny that we essentially we are animals and are very much motivated by sex, it is a raw need and however we choose to express our sexuality is our modern right, whether it be through pornography or books. thank you for writing this hub.
haha well I just posted this one (I'm waiting for it to be deleted too)
And while we're talking about contradictions, you quote the bible but you enjoy reading about the Illuminati? ... riiiight....well keep reading honey, the Illuminati were originally a pagan cult!
You are welcome. I hate when people have closed minds and feel the need to censor others because they believe different or don't have the facts. There is another thing brewing here---what gives them the right to peek in the bedrooms of others. I think the Bible said somethng about that and how wrong it is.
Oh she is piccking fights and who to fight with.....CENSORSHIP!!
Does this mean I get to do my "Nazi" dance? Or should I do my "Big Brother" dance? HAHAHAHAHAHA wow this is amusing as hell....a very good waste of time when I know I have a million other things I should be doing! Procrastination at its finest!
I saw her venom pointed right at you in her hub., I just posted the firt three chapters of Song o Solomon. That won't last long either.
and this one will be deleted for sure:
If porn is so bad then you better take Song of Solomon out of that Bible of yours.
Here is an excellent link that I gave her on her comments, but alas she will just delete it without ever reading it. I think she just see my name and automatically deletes it. That makes me think that she is posing as another hubber here that doesn't like anything that I have to say. Well here is the post and the link that I gave her:
At least check this out before you delete my comment:
Come on ladies - calm down!
LondonGirl, in case you haven't noticed all my comments have been deleted and only my comments. Something smells fishy with her....
I think of it this way...would anyone be comfortable being filmed in a porn flick? Can anyone picture Jesus watching porn or making his living by producing porn?
I think we could all agree that the Jesus of the Bible would never engage in either watching or filming, therefore we shouldnt' either. We are to follow His footsteps.
Our bodies are beautiful and they are meant to be covered, and to be uncovered only for the spouse.
That may be fine for you but there are those like I stated that need this stuff and it is between and man and a woman. Now I have knowledge of the other side like the ED thing. If you don't then that is OK too but leave the rest of us who do need this stuff alone. You are not to judge what others do in their houses and not all those who do this filmaking and are filmed do it against their will. Get some facts first. How about all the temples in India and the sex they dispaly right out in the oen----I guess they are dong a mortal sin. When did the body become defiled and by whom and who said so. Not everything is written int he Bible and for good purpose so you cannot say what Jesus would have done and what he wouldn't have.
Embracing thetruth. How about reading that Bible of yours---You didn't even read the whole hub, silly you. there is porn in the bible, just not the pictures..............Song Of Solomon.
LOL, I am sorry ETT, but I am now left with a vision that Jesus disapproves of us doing virtually every sport there is (as he did none of them), and that topless sunbathing is suddenly a sin, mutual showers with the same sex are wrong as they involve nudity without a spouse present, etc etc. I can just see Jesus shaking his head in disapproval whilst seated on the sidelines of a football game, simply because he didn't 'engage in either watching or filming' it during his lifetime!!
Mistyhorizon post a link to her hub she wrote about how it affects men and both got deleted. What a shame because it was what the original hub that this person was writing about. Now I am beginning to think that this person, Ms Hoffman, truly is prejudiced toward only certain people here and not what they write or wht side they are on if there are sides. What gives?
Misty, that is funny because they didn't have movie cameras or even cameras back then!!
ok fair enough...let's say Jesus was here today...what do you think he would have to say about porn...do you seriously thinkk that he would participate?
Misty, roflmao. Lady - yeah I caught the venom, but I refuse to continue arguing with her because each time I go back she just gets another page view, which will up the hub's score and hers, so I will politely bow out of this one cuz I never lose! I know that there are others that feel the same way we do about her hub and that either they are not saying so or they are being deleted the same as you. Let her be petty, I don't usually give bible thumping idiots like her the time of day anyway.
This hub is a complete outrage!
Embracingthe truth, now what would you think Jesus would say about Love Your Neighbor as Yourself and then you don't? Or how about the Don't judge lest ye be judged and there is something to that if you read down the verses--something like if you got the tinme to look at others wrong doings then you are doing worng yourself and kind of tells you to keep your own nose clean and dont worry about what others are doing.
Glad you like it GoldenToad!
ETT who knows what he would say, I certainly don't, as I never talked to him to ask, and although I personally don't like porn, and would not take part in it, I don't like fish either, but don't think I would condemn others for eating it. Maybe Jesus would be the same!!!
Thank you for creating this hub, I actually thought that the other hub was so totally onesided. I think anything is ok in moderation and as I stated in my comments to other hub sometimes it can even enhance a couples sex life. Great job, keep em coming!!
Lady G, you did not answer my question, but that don't matter we all know the answer whether we choose to admit it or not. jesus loved his neighbour as himself and yet he hated sin, we are to do the same.
If someone commits a murder, do you agree that they should be sent to prison? if so then you too are judging between right and wrong...and this is the kind of judging that we are to do.
Triplet mom, I deleted your second comment becasue it was the same. I have been getting these more so tonight too.
Thanks for the compliment and it is true. It is all how you use the media.
http://hubpages.com/hub/How-Would-You-React-if-You
This is my hub that the 'other hub' keeps on deleting the link to for some unknown reason :)
Oh so now the human body is a sin! Go figure. Now how is one supposed to live in somethingthat is horrendous and sinful---how do you suppose Jesus felt in his own skin??
I answered your petty question. I sure hope that your husband doesn't come down with ED from some accident and so on and so forth........
Thank You Misty!!
I did not say the human body is a sin. sex is not a sin between one man and one woman. but it is not intended for the whole world to see.
good night
How many people do you think are in ones bedroom while watching porn between and amn and a woman? Did I say anything about bringing in the neighbors or friends while watching this stuff!!! You are putting words in my mouth that aren't even thought of.
Toad, you're just yankin her chain (bondage?) on that other hub, aren't you? I hope so cause I am laughing my ass off! I about fell off of my chair. The whole theory of pornography being bad because (pick a reason) is so, so backwards. While I was reading her hub (the first of hers I've ever read) I was just waiting for the religion angle. Sure enough, BAM! Many of her type are so repressed they can't stand anyone who isn't repressed and backwards too. T
Thanks for writing this Lady G! I like you more and more every day!
Christopher! Thank you. I was mad at first when she kept deleting my posts, but now it is so funny!!
An after thought, Does she realize what setting up a camera to catch someone doing sexual acts is???
CR- that is an outrage!
Hey, I offered to help you "tail" her on the other hub!!!! Check it out!
Lady. Glad you are having a sense of humor about it. It is very frustrating when you make some legitimate comments on someone's hub and they delete them just because they disagree with you.
Am I the only one that caught the fact that she posts her comments under "EmbracingTheTruth" instead of her real HP account? What is she ashamed to admit to her own beliefs? If so, then perhaps she should never have publicized her opinions. Or maybe it was a liberal girl like me that took her man...yeah that's it, she caught another girl ... commiting ... certain acts ... with her man while porn was playing!!! AHHA! We found the root of the problem!
Rainbow----hmmmm intteresting. Lying is a sin............hmmmmmm
Hey, excellent point, I guess I forgot about that one! Misty - just read that hub ... very sweet of you to help a friend, and I gotta say the HP community gave some sound advice! I love how we all band together when necessary....so now do we get to band together and kick her out? Please?
I agree with you, Lady!! Things like porn are fine in moderation, and especially when they are needed. I do understand that in certain situations, pron can become an addiction, and be indicative of other problems, but in moderation, pron can be a fun way to spice up a love life. I congratulate you on your honest hub, and your character. Thank you for writing this!! We need some competing opinions other than the oppressed, holier than thou attitiudes of some people.
Anna Marie Bowman, Thanks for stopping by and your comments are greatly appreciated.
Apparently there's a way to get in under her very nose! Ha!
Hey Christoph,
I just kind of took a different approach after being called Satan! I think that was the turning point!!
What??? Who called you Satan??
Trust me, you aren't Satan. I was married to him...you look nothing like him.
roflmao all I can say is ... wow...lady....gt....wow....hahahahaha
"While I was reading her hub (the first of hers I've ever read) I was just waiting for the religion angle. Sure enough, BAM! Many of her type are so repressed they can't stand anyone who isn't repressed and backwards too."
I don't think it helps to stereotype people like this.
I'm pretty anti-porn myself. Not for religious reasons (I'm agnostic) and I'm not repressed or backwards either.
Londongirl, Do you now what ED is and how it affects couples or even a man who is trying to find a wife??
The problem with men and women and porn is that men get aroused by sight and women by touch. I was trying to find an article to get that information from but failed yesterday. Men are different then women. Porn doesn't really turn me on either unless my hubby is with me, but I am female and most of the people who are against porn are female. Education is important to understand how men's bodies work versus how womens bodies work...but then again that is a taboo subject for Christians and others who are against the human body, ect.....
ED? No, I don't know what that is.
Not all men are turned on by porn, it's not a binary thing.
Lady Guinevere, good job on this hub. And, yes, you are right!
However, LondonGirl does have a point that not all people who oppose pornography do so out of religious conviction or sexual repression. Some people are just tremendously "normative." They have this idea that they know exactly what normal is, and that they get to legislate it and then enforce the laws against others, even when it involves only consenting participants and nobody is harmed.
It's really informative LG. Thumbs up!
Well London Girl I mentioned it a few times in my hub. Instead of appearing uneducated about sex and pron, maybe you should do researcch on it from the sites that are listed and from the name ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION. You are not a man so you wouldn't have any idea what this is and the implications of such as to the relationships that they have with women and wives and girlfriends and such.
Aya Katz, thanks for stopping by and commetning. I really do appreciate your thoughts and comments.
Londongirl, do you mean when I stated this: "The problem with men and women and porn is that men get aroused by sight and women by touch.".......that it meant everyone male?
That is correct, not every male is stimulated by porn, but............ they are stimulated by visuals, weather it be picture, video or the woman right in front of them or someone across the street. Men and Women are wired differently...
I know what erectile dysfunction is, yes. But the common use for ED in my world is Early Discharge in bankruptcy; I didn't recognise the abreviation!
Yes, people are not binary. I'm a woman--last time I checked--and as an artist, am pretty visual about things.
Well, whatever anybody thinks of it, it's here to stay. I think there are a lot of interesting things you could say about porn that have little to do with morality or the Bible or Jesus, but on a purely personal level, I think that after the initial shock wears off it gets kind of boring and anatomical. The only moral objection I have to porn is that it is so often is made by people who prey on very young women with messed up lives--I mean, this is what people mostly want to look at, and the average 17 year old isn't going to make a porn movie unless she's a bit unhinged or someone is exploiting her. I don't see how to stop that though.
Now I have this indelible image of Jesus watching porn on his computer. I can't get that out of my head now. If the diatribe against it hadn't been written here at HP, I'd have have never gotten that visual...Oh my now it's getting worse...
Oh Pam, yes it doesn't take much does it to visualize a suggestion. lol
A questin for everyone: Sex education videos for the purpose of learning sexual teqniques between a man and women and the peolple that are being videoed as consenting adults--are they considered porn? Another question--the study of human anatomy in higher biology classes--is that considered porn too? If those who are against any porn, and that depends on your definition of what it is and who should not be watching it,....all things pertaining to ones body functions outside of a man and wife's bedroom is porn---so how do you learn how your body works and that of your mate?
This hinges on the area of 'reasonable community standards', actually with anything. Londongirl can undoubtedly tell you more!
Really important Hub!
To espres my opinion I will say "All that is in its place is good, and It become bad out of it"
SO when I know of a couple talking about their sexual problems, I think "Cheers" How many couples have problems and don't do anything about them? They might don't know or they just don't have hope, that's sad!
If a couple say We have something important. Us. Let's do something to make it work! That's great!
I think there is no bad ways, between brakes("), the only wrong thing is not to do anything. I mean if we a looking for a solution, we can make mistakes, everybody do it. But we are on the way, because we are fighting.
I've just published a hub, talking a little about sex and love. Well if u want to say something there won't be censure for respectful opinions.
This is the web site
http://hubpages.com/hub/Sex-and-Love
Patience for everybody
The Eye, Thank you for your comment and your hub!
Some education often dispells myths and fear of such topics as those which are tabooed by various sectarian groups and the general public. So I looked up something for you:
What is the origin of the word pornography?
This is a surprisingly young word in English. Pornographer is first recorded in English from about 1850. Pornography appears by 1857. These words are from Greek pornographos "writing about harlots", from porne "harlot". In English pornography referred primarily to ancient Greek and Roman texts of that subject. It wasn't until the late 19th century that it came to be used to refer to newly written works. It also applied to art of a licentious nature from its earliest use in English.
London Girl: Yes, I got that you are against porn. Sorry if you see that as stereotyping people, but I did not say that all people who are against pornography are religious or religious zealots. Religious zealotry and an extreme negative attitude towards pornography almost always go hand in hand. I was simply wondering if that would prove to be the case here and it was. Unless I am mistaken, Lady Guinevere is a very religious and spiritual person, a minister or something similar, and clearly she is not sexually repressed, or not patently against pornography at least, so I am not confusing a dislike of pornography with religion in general.
I believe that the person in question is a religious zealot and that she is sexually repressed. I was sexually repressed myself--thanks to the Catholics--and when at first I had the opportunity to become intimate with a woman, I was messed up in a big way. That, as far as I'm concerned, gives me the right to say whatever the f**k I want about it. I was almost screwed up for life. It was a devastating, horrible time for me. I stand by my statement about this writer. It is my belief and nothing more. So, my lud, you may put away your big red pen.
Hey Christoph, Yes I m a minister--one that educates and not prejudges.
I have added some very good videos for your viewing and learning. They are excellent programs to watch. I do hope that some of you will purchase them to educate yourselves and your families.
Thank you, Lady G! I wanted you to know that I often view the little battles that go on regarding religion here on HP but seldom comment. You are always there speaking as I would if I was as learned so as to participate. I wanted you to know that though you may not see me, I am often there rooting for you!
OH Great I can get the Video of The Hsitry of Sex on YouTube!!! I will add it to the top!! It is a GREAT series!
Ther is also a series about Sex in the Bible. I may do a hub by itself of that because it will be all videos.
They History of Sex videos have been added. There is a new text capsule above them to read also.
As far as the Biblical implications, I agree. Song of Solomon is full of writing that is very erotic. The Bible also says be fruitful and multiply. If some people need visual aids, so be it! Great videos, btw!!
Anna, yes they are great and very eye opening as to how the church dealt with sex and all the implications. St. Augastine really messed with their heads! What I found surprising is the Birth Control they had privy too anad how often they used it--to the point of one plant's extinction!
What lies have been told about me!!! Now this person says that I have been harrassing her for a while now. I never knew she existed until I saw her hub AND I have only tried to comment on that hub about 5 times with all of them being deleted and not one has been read!!!!! Some of those comments are here that I copied BEFORE she deleted.
Misty's have been deleted too!She looses credibility when all comments that she deems unacceptable are deleted and then spreads such lies! Some of Misty's posts were in her favor too.
STOP Spreading YOUR lies and Lying is one of the ten commandments!!
Nothing on this world is completely bad...or completely good, is depending of the way how someone use it or misuse it.
You have made some of very good points here....Love&Ligt, thumbs up!
I just want to say to Christoph Reillythat I am agree with him. The Catholicism just talk about sins, and that made me feel bad with myself all my life.
The religion haven't got to forbid anything. They have to talk of how to love ourselves. When we do love ourselves, many things change. We see us differently. We see to the rest of the people differently too.
I really like Dr. Wayne W. Dyer Your Erroneous Zones have shown the truth to many people. It's time to accept ourselves, the way we are.
The other great point is that we have to realize that we are evolution constantly. No even one situation define us. No even one situation is forever. Our mind works the same. We don't have to worry about how we feel. Everything come and go. With a little of patience we will understand ourselves and other people.
So I love myself the way i'm. And I don't put any labels to my life because everything change and the life take care of me, and take care of you.
Cheers to everybody
Well, I agree with you "the eye". As a Roman-Catholic, I believed that I will finish in the hell , because I had sex. Not very positive approach, I wonder, was I normal?
LG...you are great. Thumbs up!
I heard an interview done with Ted Bundy, shortly before he was put to death, and he spoke briefly about the influence that porn had made in his life. He, as well as the other inmates in the prison were all addicted to porn, and it had caused them to think of, and treat women in a way that was wrong. He wasn't blaming porn for the things he had done because they were his actions, but he was saying that porn played a very negative role.
I understand your point about using it in moderation, but it's kind of like alcohol. As long as it's around, some people will use it responsibly, and others will use it irresponsibly. There's really no way to regulate that.
Also, regarding the Song of Solomon; I do not believe it is a porno. I believe it is actually a love story. There is nudity is love stories, yes? I would say that a porno is something done for profit and pleasure, which is not what's going on in the Song of Solomon. Also notice that it is mentioned several times, "I charge you O daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please". This sounds kind of like a warning, not to rush into love until the time is right. The book isn't exactly the easiest to understand, but it is clearly about two people who are in love. If there were pictures, I don't believe it would resemble a porno.
Again, I understand your position, but believe that the effect of pornography is more negative than positive.
daveearly,
When you say it is like alcohol you can also add food to that too. We can't say that porn is totally negative, just as we can't say that food and the obese are totally negative. We simply can't throw out the baby with the bath water. The only thing that is negative is what is in that person's mind who reads it and looks at it--you can also say the same with food and other things--gambling, and so forth.
I don't think Song of Soloman is porn either, just bringing it into view as a book about sex and love that many people who profess the Bible doesn't have this sort of thing in it when it clearly does. Erotica it is .........but is erotica porn?
Whose to say they didn't sell Song Of Soloman as a book of love or anything else?
There is another aspect you brought to mind. Those who take pictures of their children naked are said to be doing child porn when in fact they neither sell those pictures or they go no further than their families---is that porn?
"There is another aspect you brought to mind. Those who take pictures of their children naked are said to be doing child porn when in fact they neither sell those pictures or they go no further than their families---is that porn?"
I wouldn't think so.
"Whose to say they didn't sell Song Of Soloman as a book of love or anything else?"
Don't know. Perhaps they did, and perhaps they understood it better than me also. LOL
"When you say it is like alcohol you can also add food to that too. We can't say that porn is totally negative, just as we can't say that food and the obese are totally negative. We simply can't throw out the baby with the bath water. The only thing that is negative is what is in that person's mind who reads it and looks at it--you can also say the same with food and other things--gambling, and so forth."
I know. We could add a lot of things to the list of use and abuse, but there's really no way to keep it under control between those who would misuse things and those who would not. Sometimes to help keep others from being tempted into doing certain things, we may have to sacrifice some things ourselves.
Self responisbility is all there needs to be--no blaming it on others actions for we all have the responsibility of our own actions and re-actions. Are you kind of a following of Sex is only for procreation in a marraige and for nothing else?
Have you watched the videos that I put here for the purpose of learning what has been done according to the Bible?
"Are you kind of a following of Sex is only for procreation in a marraige and for nothing else?"
Something like that. I wouldn't go outside of marriage for sex.
"Have you watched the videos that I put here for the purpose of learning what has been done according to the Bible?"
I watched the first one. I wouldn't say according to the Bible, but according to men who thought they had the authority to tell people what to do.
Read the first paragraph of the other hub and then have a look at the image used to the right. A visual contradiction of everything said and definitely NOT the type of image that should be associated to the hub as a whole. Anyway, it made me laugh!
Dave,
I am not saying to go outside of marriage for sex. There be many couples who have problems in tht department of their marriages, and the only way to get it fined sometimes is through cunseling and through porn for the men. You believe that they should not have any opportunity to fix their marriage? Just as watching on one video aren't you also stating something with only on tenth of the facts?
Peter, yes I thought that strange of her to post a picture such as that and then say that it is a bad thing. Why post it at all if she ws after something more pristine?
And I am still unable to post my comments on her hub!
It may be time to think about just not repying or defending against this zealot. Give her the flick and get back to writing more good hubs.
Thanks for your comment. I think she just went into the shadows for I haven't seen her around all that much since this happened.
Oh, she's a bitch, she denies all comments that don't exactly agree to her. Just dump her :)
I know that she didn't agree with me or I her. This is why I posted this hub, not only did I agree with her a couple of times she denied my comments anyway. That ticked me off and so I wrote this one to clear the air about some misconceptions about sex and all the stuff they have in that Bible. They don't read the Bible for themselves. I don't think they are taught to do that.
A very nice piece Lady G....I found it after you joined my fan club and I came to check you out.....I love your open mind.
Thank you R. Blue.
One look at the porn industry should settle this 'debate' once and for all. To say that such a vile institution should exist for the sake of a urology office is just silly. And show me a couple that needs porn to help their relationship, and I'll show you a couple that has problems far deeper than anything porn can fix. I truly believe this hub misses the mark, and tries to show porn in an innocent light, when honestly, nothing could be further from the truth. For every couple porn has 'helped,' I could cite one thousand relationships it has destroyed.
Obviously you have little or no understanding of what I was conveying here. Obviously you have little or no understand about how a man's brain and body functions work and I also did not promote all porn. Now show me how you understand a man's basic body function when it comes to sex and I am not talking about the mental ones.
Alas - I cannot help but be attracted to the aforementioned lady. I must purge my mind of such impure thoughts - time for a cold shower.
Surfidreamer! LOL LOL LOL
It is in all the bad we teach our children about the beuty of the human body that GOD has given us. Wow ........God gave us something miraculous ...........and we demean it and treat it as some nasty thing---yet we have to live in it every day.....now you know why this world is so horrible and sex is sooooo taboo...............religion possibly. It doesn't stop them fromhaving children though.
I am deeply attracted to untouchable puritan women - kinda like Christoph's lesbian crushes :(
The restraining order bans me from visiting nunneries of any denomination.
Oh and how about all the hubpages that are promoting all those actresses from other countries with those scantily clad beauties! Oh we mustent forget the ones from India!!
I can just put bets on that this person never even attempted to watch those videos. My, My they had sex all in the Bible, and porn and all kinds of lusty thangs in thar!
Even the word 'Wimple' gives me goosebumps :(
Oh Surfidreamer!! You break up my boring day!
No worries, you cheer me up, LG.
An evening of ouzo, music, Greek food and dancing beckons - catch you later, for the Pest/Cris A/GoldenToad/C.C. Riter/Sandman insanity night shift!
See ya later and have a good time.
For those who read this hub, I just found another hub that fits with this one nicely so check it out!
Porn: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire
Seeing as I how I am a man, I would like to think I have some understanding as to how my brain and body works, and having a woman tell me I don't is kind of ridiculous. (I assume you are one, judging from your avatar). The point is, you state that not all porn is bad, then go on to list things that clearly do not fall into the category, such as instructional sex videos and the Song of Solomon. Based on your criteria, just about anything alluding to sex is considered pornographic. If you don't want to be misunderstood, don't try redefine porn by comparing it to literary and artisitc masterpieces, i.e. Song of Solomon, or Venus of Milo, for example. Of course I understand your point, it's not rocket science, but you misdefine porn, plain and simple. And no, pornography, correctly defined, is never a good thing.
Jrueter,
Since you are a man, tell us what your definition of PORN is. Also could you tell us how your body works with sex? I didn't go with my thoughts abou how it works but by scientific knowledge. So go ahead. I want to know what you know.
Oh and while you are at it what makes a man rape a woman? What does a man's body do with sex in that nature?
I am new to hub and just joined your list of friends. I hope that we can all respect each other's views on here even if we do not agree. People let L.G. speak and share. Take one or two things from each article and agree to disagree. Let go and Let God.
1. I already gave you a definition of porn
2. Is it really necessary, or appropriate to explain how my body works with sex?
3. Scientific knowledge? I'm sorry, I've read it three times and I'm just not seeing what you're talking about in that regard. A reference to the Kinsey Institute hardly qualifies this hub as scientific.
4. What does this conversation have to do with rape?
I just don't agree with you. Sorry, it's nothing personal.
Oh, and trimar7, you must be new. This is hardly a volatile debate. Pretty tame from what I've seen in the religious ones. Besides, arguing is a good pastime, as long as there are no insults, I see little reason to not engage in some good old-fashioned back and forth. Not to mention, no one can stop anyone from "speaking" and sharing. That's the magic of sites like Hubpages.
Jrueter, I can only bring a hosre to water but I cannot make him drink. I don't know what you are talking about with the number 4--having to do with rape. You brought it up. You see things your way and I see things my way. I have experience with this and I don't think you do--not directly. So be it.
Um, no, I didn't bring up rape. You did. Are we reading the same exchange? What I don't understand is why you can't address the points I made, instead you just accuse me of ignorance. Pretty simple cop-out.
I have addressed your points. I will not agree with your statements and that makes you more determined to make this an arguement. I will not play that game. When one sees the body as evil or disgusting, then that is what it will become. You said that I only had one scientific site, well I went back and read the whole entire thing and the comments too.--there are 4 sites and more listed. You won't go look at them because you think your body is not worthy of expression and that you think others are not entitled to that either. Keep your eye on what you are doing and not on what others are because if you are thinking it then you are doing it--somethig like that is said in the Bible.
The Rape comment, yeah I brought it up, but you didn't answer my question---what causes a man to rape?
Ted Bundy was already sick before he did those things.
Like anything else, porn can be very good or very bad. There is a place for it. I enjoy it and know others who do as well.
Thank You composed. Here I was a bit afraid to look at this comment thinking that you would be like those who think they have the right to control how others live in their own homes. I feel that if it is a problem between a couple then it is a problem between them. I also think alot of it is jealousy and then that is their own problem because jelousy is really possession of another person. Jelousy is what really tears families apart and they very well don't look into the root cause but just the symptoms.
OK I have a few comments on this hub and the comments on it.
First, I personally don't like visual porn but it's none of my business if someone else watches it. I do think that porn can be damamging and addicting for people, I've known several who are addicted to porn and can't have a normal sexual relationship without it anymore. In this way, yes, porn is damaging.
There are other people however, who use porn as a tool in sex between themselves and their spouse. I may not personally get it, but that's their business, not mine.
Furthermore, not all Christians are backwards and repressed. I was raised Catholic, and my mother was very open with me with regards to sexuality and the human body when I was growing up. In High School I was the one that the other girls came to with questions, even though I did happen to be a virgin until marriage. I don't think it's fair to generalize people based on religious beliefs any more than it is far to generalize people based on their sexual practices (Including whether they choose to watch porn or not)
The one thing I don't happen to buy from your article, is that porn is a treatment for ED. In all my nursing classes they've talked about medications and psychological therapy to help the guy "get it up" and actually stated that there is no scientific evidence that porn helps with erectile dysfunction issues.
If the ED is caused by an accident or cancer or some such, then no amount of porn is going to make that penis erect, though it may help if there's a psychological issue causing it, it is more likely that psychological counselling will help in the long term in these cases.
Now with all that said, I do know that sometimes porn is necessary for some people who masturbate, simply because they need something to get them going on a fantasy. My wife and I actually read erotic literature...she uses it because she needs a fantasy to latch onto and I read it because I like having a mild "turned on" feeling sometimes, that hopefully will lead to an intimate night, though I don't actually masturbate using erotic literature.
To each their own but I thought it would be important to make a few points.
Suiiki, Thanks for you comments. Nice Avatar.......
It's too bad hardly anyone watches the videos here to get the full meaning of the article.
They complied all five vidoes into one complete. This video also speaks about Litlith, what she was as Adam's first wife and what the scholars did with her and her story and how marriage was then and about all the relationships and how sex is written in the Bible.
I admittedly didn't watch the video, but only because I'm not in a place where I can (no headphones, damn). Nor did I read all the comments - there's so many! However I agree with you Lady G that porn is not always bad, that it has some very good uses, and that no one has the right to judge others for viewing, filming, or being filmed in porn.
As far as "what would Jesus do" - there's a book called "Stranger in a Strange Land". It starts with a mission sent to Mars to find out what happened to the people sent in an earlier mission 20 years ago. All that's found of them is an adult human male, child of one of the couples sent in the first mission. He has been raised by martians, but he is taken back to Earth and taught human ways. He ends up founding a new church, and is the author's idea of what Jesus's second coming might be like. The church members practice full nudity on a daily basis.
I'll spare any more details than that. It's a great book, and I think it's a great representation of what Jesus might have to say about the way we do things today.
In sexual education it may be needed videos but pornography for a business purpose can't be acceptable.
Dizze Blogger, Yes, it is how we relate to our own bodies that matters. When a child is born they have no clothing on them. Immediately we clothe them and then we expect them to act a certain way depending on their genitalia. When they are other than that we freak out.
It is our own focus on that part of the body that gets us into trouble, but why do we only focus on that part of the body in the first place?
upal19, I agree.
I am a member of a UCC church. I earned the God And Country: God And Life Award. I was raised by Christian parents in a small town. I am an ordained minister. I have taught in a Muslim school. I have been exposed to other religions.
Having said all that, I suggest that some of your audience here read "The X-rated Bible". You would not believe what you will find in our very own Bible!
Another quick note, in America it is illegal for anyone who is not legally an adult (i.e. 18) to be in the adult industry.
I don't think adult content is for everyone but I don't think it has to be a problem for anyone. CAN it be? Yes, it can just like anything else including EATING. (Yes, just as there is a Sex Addicts group out there so too is there an Over-eaters Anonymous.
Too much of ANYTHING can be a bad thing. However, hubpages is based HERE in America. Just as people can trash a subject so too may people praise it! God Bless America!
wsp2469, Thank you for your comment. Most have said that they did not watch the video. Too bad because it is all the sex there is in the Bible and who prostituted whom to get what they wanted. Incest is very rampant in that Bible too. It is very eye-opening if they would only OPEN their eyes.
Thanks for stopping by.
I added the video THE X-RATED BIBLE.
Lady Guinevere says:
9 months ago
Oh No! I have been censored again, for what, becasue I said that Charles Manson did NOT have an open mind. and I posted this link too!!
What is her problem and why am I being censored---Oh yeah, because I don't share her views.......someone else didn't either and their comment didn't get censored.