Why unemployment sucks
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Why would I write the follow title? Well here it goes...
This summer I was in the unfortunate posistion to recieve unemployment. While it was nice to have the money to help with bills it was not till much later the true price I would have to pay for taking this money.
Because our wonderful (irony) goverment made a mistake and now I have to suffer due to their error. Not just me but my whole family! My kids, and wife will be suffereing from this. Yes and even my brother's family, my sister's family, and my mom and dad.
All these people are going to suffer because the Goverment made a mistake and now they want me to repay them. While I relize that I have no choice but to pay them back I feel like I have been injured in a most serious way. If I did not qualify for the money then why the heck give it to me to begin with? I have beenb a hard working person and had three jobs at one time untill getting layed off, leaving another job due to family needs and then finally getting layed off at the last job.
So when they told me that I could get $380 a week I thought great, not what I had been making but it will help pay the bills till I can start working again. I went all summer two and a half months with no work. Finally I got to go back to my previous job. But wait this is when things get all fubared. Because I only worked a part time schedule at first I was still suposed to fill my unemployment. Guess what they recalculated my unemploment and then they said I owed them a vast amount of money for the whole summer. $2,400 dollars!!! yes $2,400 dollars I could not believe it my self so I went down to the unemplomewnt office waited hours to see some one who then told me to call the main office in Indinapolis because they could not help me. What a crock. So I called and was put into the wonderful calling automated system. To my amazment I was hung up on not once not twice but three time befor I could actually talk to a person that ment I spent a total of 4 and 1/2 hours making phone calls only to have them tell me that it would take another week while they reviewed my case..
A week later and guess what, I did not get a phone call, or a letter in the mail. One month later I recieved a letter tell ing me I had one week to pay back the money in full of be penialized.. Guess what the job I am at doesn;t pay that kind of money to simply just pay it back. I drive a school bus for christ sakes. So now i HAVE TO LEAVE MY JOB AND LEAVE MY FAMILY TO TAKE A NEW JOB THAT PUTTES ME OUT ON THE ROAD IN DANGERS UNKNOWN just to pay thaT MONEY back. I would have never taken this money if I had know all the greif it was going to cause. I would have rather lost my house had the utilities shut off and still be with my family than to go through all this.
For the other part of my family my Brother and his family, my sister and her family, and my mom and dad, I must say I am sorry you will not be seeing me any time soon not for thanksgiving/christmass/easter even. I can see you or even afford to send presents this year. My kids are not going to even get much except for what little I can scrounge up and only if it's needed.
Why would the goverment do this to me and ruin my life in such a way? They don't care how this is affecting me and m family. They get to keep their jobs, and be with their families, and have money to buy presents.
Befor all this started when I had three jobs I was gone a lot but home every night and spent time with my family. I earned a decent pay for a decent days work. It was around $580 wkly. Now I work and can only earn $250 a wk. What has this country turned into? Crap that is what I am thinking, pure crap. Our goverment sucks and doesn't act or even pretend to care about the poeple it affects.
I hope to make a difference some day, but only after I put this all behind me. I have a long journey to make this money up and it's not possible with my current job so now I have to go find a new job driving a semi-truck over the road. not what I wanted. But come next election time. I am going to run for office and fire every single one of those bastards at the unemploment office if elected so join me in my cause.
I need political help, manager, ect. I hope to hear from you soon.
I am the average JOE and I will fight for all average joes rights to be treated fairly.
If the goverment makes a mistake the people should not have to pay. If I make a mistake then I should have to pay.
thank-you for reading this and let every one know beware the unemployment pay becasue it sucks to have to go through what I am and I don't want any one else to go through it anmd suffer like I am having too, right now.
Oh and if you are from Indiana remember that the banks and the goverment are all corrupt here don't trust them with money ever!!!!
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Well I don't know about Ohio but here in indiana you have to make a claim in person the first time then you have a one week waiting period and then they require you to file a claim every week for that weeks pay. Most infor mation can be found on "your sates".gov page. hope that helps even though I was screwed out of my unemployment I did recieve some and then they wanted it all back can't figure out that one at all.
My husband is in construction, and as you all know of the economy...no one can afford new houses much. He works really hard, but it never fails that he would come home and say "I'm laid off hon." He sometimes went back to work a week later..good, but not great since he missed a whole weeks pay. Other times, he'd wait for his employer to call back only to say "doesn't look good..better look for another job, sorry."
My husband was pretty used to filing online here in Washington state. Hard to understand? Heck ya! But he did it thank god, and waited his week. On Friday, he would receive his usual "not gonna pay you the week ending because there is a question" blah blab blah. Filled out the paper work they sent, and sends it back. We'll just have to see what he receives next week. And I don't believe they ever paid back pay from the time he filed before. It was a hassle, and we were broke. One time, they kept sending paper work after paper work to fill out so they could make a decission. And when they finally decided okay, we really need the money....they paid $486.00 a week. It was better than a kick in the pants thats for sure. BUT...about 5 paychecks later, they sent a letter saying they were going to stop payments because they thought my husband said he was expecting a paycheck from his employer when he filled. I don't recall that but it was okay because he had found a new job and was to start that following week. We filled out their "questionaire" in reguards to the mystery check and sent it back.
My husband filed for unemployment...AGAIN last Sunday online. Yet another boss has gone belly-up and he will be looking for another job. AND to add to the stress, the Unemployment Dept. has sent him a bill for $486 saying they "overpaid him"!!!!!!!! Good Grief. I tell ya, its just like they think your robbing from them YOUR money! They send you so much crud to fill out and send back because they know by time they okay your paper work you'll have a job and they won't have to fork over any money! Then, when they do give you a check....they will work really hard to "read between the lines" to question you again and stop payments......and of course.....come after you for these so called "overpayments". They are a pain in the keester they are!
Update You only get 10days to file a Dispute to the claims that they over payed you yet they can file an over payment claim at any time much further past the 10 days that they payed you so how is this fair? It was of coarse my money that they took from my paychecks to put into the fund for my self along with money from my employer so how come they do this? I need to find a lawer to deal with all this and it will actually be worth it since I can use the money from the claim, it's far more than what the lawer will charge and better than being out all the money they want back.
i totally agree it is corrupt, i have been on unemplyment for 8 mths, i just received a letter saturday, for a hearing this tuesday issue is wheather "appeal filed timely", wtf, you only have the most 30 to file an appeal, so why would they conduct a hearing for the company 8 mths later to see if they filed an appeal timely, i have this feeling i am going to get screwed and have to pay shit back, the screwed up part is that the same company that laid me off, just fired my husband, and he filed for unemployment, and has had to appeal it, cause they lied and said he quit, which was bull, so we have been waiting 3 mths for them to give nothing, they say it takes that long to make a decision, he has too had to go over the road, just so we can live
I have to agree with you there it is an unfair system and it is geared forthe employers benifits not the people that it was originally desined to help. For me it is the matter of if I can keep my home or not, actually could end up homeless from this mess that they caused and that is the scarest thing of all.
I tried to go out and get a CDL but have not beenable to pass the test yet so I guess I am not going to be doing that any time soon lke I thought and in the mean time my life has begun to spin into an out of control finacial disaster, so where is my Bail out money going to come from? The US gov seems happy to give tax payers money out these days to any one that asks, and seems to have a good reason why not me?
i agree with all of you, i filed for unemplyment in september for them firing me, my emplyer contested and said they offered me a demotion and i quit., so i got denied, then i filed an appeal waited 6 more weeks for a hearing. the day of the hearing, tried to explain to the judge how they fired me, she didnt want to hear anything about me being fired or quitting, she was only there to hear about a job refusal. So wait 2 weeks to get an answer, receive one, and find that the judge ruled, that i did not refuse an offer of suitable work, but the previous, determination is null and void, and is being sent back to the investigators to determine if i was fired or quit....wtf, so know i have to wait 6 more weeks for an investigator to do his thing, get another determination, and if that is not in my favor, appeal it again. What a way to drag this out, i was terminated for no fault of my own, and though that was what unemplyment was for, i have never had to file for this before, and am very disappointed, by the time, they decide to give me it or not, i will have done lost everything, everything has been getting shut off, taken away, ect, and the job industry sucks right now. i cant even get a job at mcdonalds, cause i am over qualified. but this proves that they are in it to help the employers out, the claimants are the ones that have to suffer. but they did tell me that if once they reach a decision and if its in my favor, then i will recieve a large sum of money at one time, big whoop, that is not helping me at all right now, and everything will be gone by then. I never would have though it would take 5 or more months to make a decision.
Government sucks, I filed for unemployment back in Feb 2008 after back and fourth appeals, because I was fired unfairly, I won, but in the meantime to make some money to pay my bills I went for flight attendant training, but was unable to take the job, because they had me overnighting a lot where I never see my children, so I couldnt accept the job.. So in the meantime I been collecting unemployment, I received a letter stating I wasnt approved since I didnt accept the job as the flight attendant and now they are saying I have to pay back 8000.00 dollars as a non fault.. Now Im jobless with no income what so ever, these pigs dont give a shit if we have money to feed our families or pay our bills and now Im made to pay something back that was their error and I believe Im still entitled to the benefits! Not only did they extend my checks for 13 weeks, they sent me another letter saying I would be receiving another 13 weeks and the sameday I received that ltr I got the one saying I owe 8000.00 that was overpaid to me! Where is Obama now??? Hate this country! Im appealing it and will fill you in how it goes! Dont back down ppl this is your money, you paid into unemployment why should we have to pay it back?
hey chichick72, how did they know that you didnt accept the job might i ask, and how many appeals did you go through, we have been going back and forth with my husbands, like they are looking for reasons not to pay him its almost 6 mts now. had another appeal last week, and now waiting on the decision. how long did it take to get yours through. and if you dont mind me asking what finally made them realize that you deserved it.
Update. Ok I was out of work again for about a month but this time I was not eligiable for unemployment I was about to have all my utilities shut off I was on the verge of having my house forclosed and my van was repossesed.. It was not that I did not want to take care of my financial obligatins it was that I was unable due to my unemployment. I needed a mirrical and it kind of did not come I finally was able to file my wifes taxes early because she has had a job all this time and we recieved back our tax return refund we where able to catch up on our past due bills and get the house payments caught up, not able to get our van back, and I need a car to go find a new job, going to have to be creative since I am out of money once again..
I was hoping that I could find a job writing or working from home but after several tries at home based jobs/businesses I HAVE PRETTY MUCH GIVEN UP!
Currently I am working through a temp agency till I can find better work. it is not much but it is a paycheck bringing in some money. We have cut back on our bills as much as we can and I am even going to food banks to help with groceries, life should not have to be this hard I feel like America is starting to be a third world country. Our standards of living might be only slightly higher than other countries but soon I feel like america will simply fall behind other countries, and start to take a back seat to the global economy. we can no longer keep pace with other countries that can do work cheaper, and provide equally good products. Where the heck has the Labor unions gone too? and how come there is never a union job for me when I am looking to find one?
I believe in the union and the representation for fair wages /benifits. we don't recieve it from our gov, and when was the last time there was a really good strick that made an impact beyond a local region?
I still desire to change the system from the inside but it might simply be easier to take over and start fresh lot less red tape and BS and we could actually get to make changes that would benifit others in real life. that said I am going to walk down to the bus stop and go look for a car or at least a bicycle.
Unemployment definitely sucks! I have had all the same problems and this is the first time i have ever needed unemployment after 15 years. Who are you suppose to complain to senator, governor, I just want to opt out of paying into this bullshit system!
Total bullshit system, first they say ok your approved,then after 2 months pass say wait a minute your empoyer has appealed. Now you lose the appeal and now they ask for all the money back wtf is this happy horse shit might I ask. They should never ask for money back if its there mistake ,if they stop payment ok but this is criminal and the state should be help accountable for there mistakes not the empoyee who needed help in the first place.
I was told to take a day off by my employer and come in and work on my regular scheduled day off. Well my employer called me on the day she told me to take off and said I was no longer needed. She gave me no reason at all... Well anyways, I filed for unemployment. Got it. The unemployment office said that they didn't have any evidence to support their case on my termination. (It was a two and a half month process before I even got my first check!) So. Just today (after a month of receiving benefits) I get an email from the unemployment office saying that my previous employer filed an appeal saying that I "voluntarily quit by failing to appear or call in for work." And that I was "habitually late and failed to appear or call in for work multiple times.' When in fact, yes, a couple times I didn't have access to a phone to call in work to let them know I was gonna be late and I got wrote up both times but my employer told me a couple months later that my write ups elapsed. Meaning they "expired". And on my absences I was excused. Well I called the unemployment office today and they told me I had to write my statement of disagreement to the claim... It pisses me off that I was not given a reason for my dismissal. But now, they give this false reason. On the day I was let go, it was the day my employer told me to take off. I'm worried that they'll take the employer's side because the bitch could make documents up and possibly forge my signature. (Cause most companies are crooked like that anyways.) But in the letter I wrote about how I was discriminated against, because my co-worker was late everyday, but clocked himself in as being on time. And never got a warning or disciplined. Whereas with me, I was getting yelled at, wrote up or given a warning. What sucks is that I have nothing to back me up but my word and the bitch has her title as manager and (false) documents. The thing I'm worried about is if I lose this case, will I have to pay all the benefits I received back or not? Or will they just stop my benefits. It pisses me off that we pay into all this shit and it's a hard and long process to get back what's rightfully ours to only in the end get fucked over...
Get ready cause here comes the bad, and then the bader news.
If you loose yes you will loose a lot. you will loose your unemployment. then to make things worst you will have to pay back the amount in full that you have already recieved. and you will not be eligable to unemploment till it is payed back and you find another job and get fired again or get layed off. So suck in that belt and prepare to go to battle and I wish you the best of luck while you go to that meeting of doom. cause it's not in the Goverments best interest, nor the businesses interest to help you out, you see, the country that we live in is run by corporations and they don't like loosing money, so you are a loss for them and they are going to cut you loose and cut their losses.
I've been collecting for 3 months. I hate it! Yes unemployment sucks. Trying to keep positive by getting out of bed, brushing my teeth and getting dressed everyday when I'm thinking...why bother getting up. 5 years ago I was out of work for 5 months. The difference then..the local job listings showed around 1200 and you got call backs/interviews. Difference now very few jobs/no callbacks. I wonder if I'll be living in a tent with a bunch of strangers in a year. Our country as we knew if is gone. Never thought I'd see these days. Best of luck to all of you.
June 2nd I was laid off of work, worked for 3 years for a tiny company. Husband & wife ran it together. Hated it, so it really was a blessing in disguise, or so I thought. Filed, & was turned down. WTF?? Appealed & had phone interview on 6/22. Won it, all was good! Not so much... Got a letter on 8/12 stating that my former employers appealed it again!! Good God people! So I have to wait until 9/10 for all of this. I am pretty sure that they appealed after the 30 day period, so am hoping that is in my favor!!!
ok so we all tend to agree that all our govt is doin is bending all of us over with this unemployment crap. ive been out of work for 3 weeks, and i havent heard ANYTHING AT ALL from the unemployment office. i try calling and 'they are experiencing a high call volume'. no shit, cuz every one in the country needs help with this. we should do what our ancestors did and leave this corupt place and start over. the govt is just like a bank now, all they care about is making money. and while us hard working americans are getting screwed some illegal workers are getting FREE treatment at a hospital cuz the moron fell of a roof, or cut his finger off cuz he didnt have the common sense to turn the mower off before sticking his hand under it (ive actually seen this one)and ya know what the biggest problem is?? once they get their treatment, they dont want to become a citizen because they are afraid someone is gonna see that they owe that money for med. treatment and will be made to pay it. instead of ranting im just gonna leave u all with this. I LOVE MY COUNTRY, BUT I HATE THE F*CKING GOVT!!! REFORM!!!!
I feel every ones pain here me and my wife both lost our jobs we were making around 60,000 between us now nothing. we lost jobs on july 1st and july 20 it is now sept 12 and we still are filling out paper work and taking phone calls and they are still waiting to make a decision. Two month how THE HELL ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE, THE MONEY REALLY MEANS NOTHING NOW MY BILLS ARE ALL A MONTH PAST DUE AND I AM FLAT BROKE ON THE WAY OUT OF MY PLACE TO MOVE BACK WITH MY PARENTS OR LIVE ON THE STREET. THANKS TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY WE LOVE SO MUCH. I have never seen so much bureaucracy in my life they give me seven different numbers to deal with one claim and the right had don't even know what the left is doing. they sent me the same F-ing paper work three times.
I am so fed up i am sure i found this site like others did typing in "unemployment sucks". I live in Michigan and I left one job to take a better position at a differnt place, unexpectedly they closed for the winter. I tried very hard to find a job. It was Nov 2008 I was laid of I found a new job Feb 2009. In that time I collected $4700.00 then like some of you they told me that my employers both filled complaints and I had to go to court. which my last court date was just Aug. 31st 2009...this shit takes forever and I was told I had to prove the money that I made from the job I got laid off from after my first court date, which I won I just had to prove the money I made...so I filled a claim to get the information from him. He didnt respond for over a month to the investigator so thats when I had to go to my second court case, which I lost because I volunteered to leave one job for another (even though I put my two weeks in and did everything the right and professional way). and so finally a week ago I recieved the info I needed to prove the money I made, I was so happy because they told me i just had to prove I made $3660.00 from Aug 23, 2008 till Nov 31, 2008.....and I had made $3820.00 so just over what they said. So today I called to make sure everything was all good and let me tell you I cried and cried when they told me the judge from the second case changed the dates that I had to make the amount of money in to Sept 20, 2008 to Nov 31, 2008 so I am now short
$1035.00 so I have to pay the state of michigan back $4700.00, they are sending me a waiver form (which is my last hope) has anyone ever done this before? and did it work for you?
There really needs to be laws in place that stops the States unemployment dept. from screwing you over when its there mistake. So many times they pass unemployment and many times they should of never agreed to pay it. So whos fault is it really ? theres . All money you recive before a appeals court date should remain yours. Its not your fault the system is broke and failing,you did what you were supposed to when filing. I was in the same boat drawled unemployment for over a month ,then got a letter saying employer was appealing ,talk about your bullshirt systems. I was looking at 2,000 repayment. I didnt put up with there crap ,I got a free attorny and stuck it to them and won the appeal. Most employers bank you wont do that,make sure you try to get a free attorny dont let the system or the crooked employers screw you. Also write your congressman on new laws to be put in place to stop there overpayment games. good luck all its a jungle out there
Well, basically I was fired because I missed work due to my car blowing a head gasket on the way to work. Called so many people to take me to work no one available. waited in the heat for a very long time. Called in twice to let them know.I was fired for it. I filed for unemployement and told them exactly that. They approved me. I though GREAT! I cant find a job so this will help me eat adn pay bills, 180 dollars a week.
I get a letter in the mail 5 months later saying my employer is appealing. During the hearing the judge scolds me for stating I object! when manager saying hearsay things(which i can do during a hearing on those grounds) expects me to have kept detailed records of everything my manager said and did(who does that???), and calls out my manager on a lie (doesnt repremand her for purgury) and rules in their favor that I quit without good cause, even though I was fired..
I now apparently have to pay back 4000~ dollars back to New Mexico even though they approved me for it in the first place. Sometimes I wonder if this is designed to back up the employer not the workers(neh that is what they are doing..)
Im 21, trying to go to school full time for Nursing, and I cant find a job. NOW I HAVE TO PAY 4000 BACK(THAT I DONT HAVE!) THAT THEY DECIDED THEY WOULD PAY ME IN THE FIRST PLACE, EVEN THOUGH THE REASON IM ON UNEMPLOYMENT IS BECASUE I CANT FIND A JOB TO GET MONEY.Who does that to poor people?
Maybe I can make $2 payments a month, cause that's what I MAY be able to afford IF I WANT TO EAT STILL.Gerk-offs.My friend is in the same boat with same employer, he doesnt have money to pay it back either. Do they really expect to be payed back in a timely fashion or even at all?(Our government must be daft.)
I also was awarded money and then lost the appeal? I got a letter stating I owe over 5000 back. I wrote a letter saying I could make payments of 150 a month because I do not want to appeal because it did not get me anywhere the first time. Now they are sending me a letter saying they are going to give me another appeal date. I didnt ask for one. I just want to make monthly payments. Did anyone get any answers from unemployment when you couldnt pay the full amount?
Unemployment is a Joke, I hate it and everything to do with it, they honestly should just stop the whole unemployment thing. Sure it helps alot of people but it seems that it FUCKS alot more. I hate this shit so much.
I was bullied into quiting in New Mexico. I went from making $2000 a month to $400 a month due to the economy. I filed for partial benefits, because I wanted to keep my job until things picked up. At that time my former boss started writing me up. After 5 years he had no problems giving me $4 in raises and $300 bonuses each year. after 2 weeks of my former boss bullying me and treating me like crap I resigned for workplace harassment. He appealed the partial, I won then he appealed the "separation with good cause" because I quit, and I lost. Now I have to pay back $4000!! I still cant find work, am going to school for paramedic and will try to file bankruptcy or hardship. WHAT A JOKE UI BENEFITS ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was harassed at work, had to have ameeting with my bosses boss I did threaten to quit but then refused to sign the paper then they asked for my badge so they fired me because I was upset about the harrasment I was recieving, was a Union job and the union was actually a major contributor to the harrasment.
clyde j bloomfield says:
13 months ago
how does a person even get unemployment started without communication with the unemployment office in tiffin, ohio I filed a calim 11/3/08 and haven't gotten a thing except a couple of papers to fill out in the mail to send back to unemplyment, all it shows online in my benefit claim is pending,and it would take and attorney to understand all the different things involved online they ask, I need money to live on it could be in limbo for months with these people because they know they work for the government and can do anything they want, I just woder how many people get screwed out of their benefits and just give up with all the hassel they put a peron through?????? anyone else had this problem if so shoot me and e-mail and share hoe to get the money i worked 44 yrs for?????at fun4all@inbox.com