Agel vs Pills
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What is Agel?
Agel is a company that produces and distributes vitamins, minerals, proteins and other health and wellbeing products in the form of a gel through a network of independent distributors. Agel is a Multi Level Marketing business. What they sell is called gelceuticals.
They started in 2005 and have opened up in dozens of companies since their US launch. They have thousands of members reselling their product.
You can't buy Agel products in a supermarket. It's sold through the distributors. Much like Amway. Or any of the other possibly hundreds of legitimate MLM businesses that have sprung up over the years since Amway won a landmark case in 1979 when the Federal Trade Commission found that Amway did not qualify as an illegal pyramid scheme.
Aside from giving a little backstory and history we will not be looking at Agel or MLM's business ethics or their compensation plan.
We'll be looking specifically at Agel Vs Pills.
We won't be dragging up the hundreds of pages which prove how effective Agel is. Why? Because all the research has been conducted by Agel.
We will look at it solely from a laymans point of view, with a pound of common sense and a few heaped tablespoons of logic.
The Difference
Gel works better. Apparently. It absorbs into your system so much faster. They say.
Okay, so the gel gets into your system faster. So if you really need the vitamins and minerals, take yours first thing in the morning. Wash it down with an orange juice. Or take them the night before.
Not all of us are elite athletes that require immediate results from our supplements. In fact if you have a healthy lifestyle and eat the right foods you don't need to rely on a dozen different elixirs (or potions, or gels, or pills or whatever).
"Agel™ EXO is a powerful blend of 14 rare and exotic fruits and plant extracts. These whole-fruit purees and plant extracts are absolutely loaded with antioxidants and other beneficial nutrients... One small packet of Agel EXO contains the equivalent of nearly five full servings of whole fruits and berries!"
Go and eat five full servings of fruits and berries! Your taste buds will love you for it!
Though one might wonder that even after devouring the small portion of EXO that comes in the little packet that you might still be hungry. What are you going to eat then?
Chase it down with some FIT!
"Agel™ FIT plays a powerful role in the sometimes frustrating struggle of eating less and moving more. Eliminating the harmful effects of stimulants, FIT contains a natural, active ingredient called Super CitriMax™, the patent-pending form of HCA (hydroxycitric acid), which comes from the extract of the fruit and rind of Garcinia cambogia."
"Take one Agel™ FIT packet twice a day as needed, 30-60 minutes before a meal."
Okay, so we have that sorted out. EXO to replace the 5 servings of fruit and because you'll probably go hungry because of it, take a couple of FIT's.
That's 3 gel packs per day.
Then there's MIN (vitamins and minerals), OHM (a boost of extra power), UMI (I got not idea what this is supposed to do for you), PRO (protein) and FLX (for your joints).
It's probably recommended to take at least one of these per day.
Each comes in a box of 30. So you get a months supply in one box. Except for FIT. If you're taking two a day that means there's only enough for half a month.
You could be going through 3 to 7 or even 8 boxes of Agel per month.
The alternative is that you eat a balanced diet. And just to be sure take a few multi-vitamins to make up for any short-fall.
But gel is so much easier to swallow than pills!
Break the pill in half. Into quarters. Grind it up. Dissolve it. But otherwise yes, a gel based product is easier. But then again a juice is even easier still.
The Cost
Compare the prices...
A box of Agel costs what? $80? And if taken as recommended you'll be going through 2, 3, 4 or more boxes per month.
A bottle of multi-vitamins is how much? Twenty bucks? And they can have 100 tablets in there. That's 3 months worth! Do the math.
But I can make money with Agel!
Maybe I should sell those pills that the other MLM sells!
If all you're interested in is making money...
There are plenty of other ways. I'm not here to sell anything to you or sign you up to any program. I have no affiliations with any MLM company. I'm just amazed at the ongoing costs that these MLM incur not just on customers but on their members.
But again, if you're comparing Agel to Pills, then which do you think wins?
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Take a bottle of Centrum, turn it around and explain to me why there is 6000% of Vitamin A in each pill? The cost is not $80 but $60...perhaps you would like to research Dr. Ann de wees Allen and find out why she took her 60 patents to Agel...her research in low-glycemic products is unparalleled...
You assume in your argument that people already eat healthy...hence the word "supplement"...research your definitions...again I have stated it before a thousand times if you arent interested in Agel, move on with your life...by spending time on bashing something you know little about proves your own ignorance...if you would like to actually have a discussion on the efficacy of the products I would be glad to do so...but I hardly think you are a qualified medical professional...
Doctors are in the sickness business and they make money on you being sick...not being healthy...and I should know as I am a part of that sickness industry...I am now in the wellness indistry and am interested in helping people maintain a healthy lifestyle...
Once I would like someone to post the actual truth about why Agel is a scam...every single person that states that is either in another company or is a total buffoon...you decide for yourself what category you are in...
I am Agel and I am Healthy
I knew it was a scam. Its true, hmm..who paid the medical reps to say the benefits and advantages of Agel? Its not from an independent doctor who just recommends it to his patients on his own. And the cost is outrageous.
I would rather just eat my fruits and vegetables daily, with my juice and water intakes. Plus they all taste good. Sure that would cost a lot better, and taste better as well
Oh yes, you care about other people's health, thats why you entered this business, while making money from ripping off your family and friends, for super condensed fruit extracts. Great friend!
Way to go Roozak!
You've just shown the world what a fool you are.
You have no idea about my background or how much or how little I know about Agel. You make a lot of assumptions.
Your biggest fault and failure is the fact that you think it's only right for 100% of the information about Agel to be 100% in support of it.Come back in a years time and let me know how you go.
If you've accomplished your goals, all well and good. But I'm sure there'll be another 99 who are left with a bad taste in their mouth. And you'll dismiss them as all being losers and halfwits.
I hope you brought your downline with you from your previous MLM.
heard dr ann left agel... hahahahah..
Dr. Ann de wees Allen has left Agel?
Why's that?
Under what circumstances?
"Doctor" Allen (??) a "Naturopath" who has never listed where she went to school, who supposedly graduated before any Naturopathic schools were accredited and you could get a diploma by mail, has no education actually listed in her C.V., her only titles are from companies that she started. And all of those questions don't even address the claims about her supplement that are repetitively contradicted in published L-Arginine research.
She is a great salesperson though. Oh yes, she could sell snow to eskimos...and they'd come back for more thinking only her snow can be absorbed.
I read this web page just because I have been contacted by a rep of Agel...what a ridiculous Company Agel is...and how ignorant are the people are who join it! The "world wide" success the Agel Company is claiming is 'self proclaimed' as the results of the benefits of its products. First of all, it does not take much to establish a foreign web site with Agel products descriptions...just think of the multilingual mormon citizens living in Salt Lake City, Utah (which by the way, it's the place of Agel's Summit Conferences)...Any bilingual individual can in fact translate anything in different languages and post the 'foreign' web sites on the Net. I bet most of the Agel Reps are mormons around the world doing their mission of religion and...Agel business on a side. Whatever! But besides the modus operandi, the whole Agel is plain smoke in your face and eyes. Who wants to spend $60 - $ 80 a box with 30 mini packages per box...while the content of this packages is definitely a mistery? Further more, I saw the DVD of Agel CEO...and pleeeease, if he thinks he represents good health, he has to buy himself a mirror! I can write more, but it won't be much to say other than these entire array of Agel products are for plain suckers (no pun intended, as the Agel packs' contents are made to be sucked) and losers.
Hello guys,
Just so you know, I'm not with Agel but I'm researching on it.
From what I see is that all MLM companies have overpriced products. I won't be discussing about Agel products as it is not what I think makes Agel really outstanding compared to the others.
However, Agel's compensation plan seems alot more attractive than alot of other companies.
They doesn't require you to achieve a certain 'commission volume' before you can claim your commission. What they require is that you buy 1 box of product every month, the good thing about that is it adds 'commission volume' to everyone with people in their downline.
And if for the 1st or 2nd month if u don't make even $100 to be able to cover the product, you don't have to purshase it.
Please let me know what do you guys think on this, looking forward to your responses.
Clarence
Clarence, how much would you have to sell to be able to cover that $100 cost?
For everyone that join directly under you on the 'executive pack', you get $200 immidiately, and if your team volume commission is more than 1000CV than that's converted to $100. and you don't have to build that 1000cv yourself, whatever the people in your team do can help you build it too
And how much to sell the Executive Pack?
And... the volume commission is paid on the LESSER leg right?
So how many people would you have to have signed up to be making $100 a month in residuals to be paying for your own product? Not counting bonuses, because that's a one off. I'm talking about it growing to the stage where it's paying for itself.
The Executive Pack is US$1000
Yes, the commission is from the lesser leg of that month, but if your lesser leg grows to be highier than the other leg the next month, that will be your lesser leg than.
1000CV = US$100
Executive Pack - 500 cv
Retailer Pack - 125 cv
One box of product - 50 cv
One box of UMI - 65 cv
This is how much the team will get in CV for trading the above.
So since we're not talkking about bonus, 1000cv / 50cv = 20 people
20 People in your team, including those that is not refered directly under you.
Most of the CV comes from the bonuses though.
Please do share with me if you have any doubts in any areas, to me it seems quite fair. I guess multi-level marketers sometimes make these schemes seem like a scam because they make it sound like a 'get rich quick' thing. The truth is that it is not, but it's something u can build. By the way, I'm still not with Agel yet.. still deciding. Thanks, looking forward to your response :)
Clarence
darkside is there any other way i can contact you? through a messenger or something? im not a registered user here by the way
Thanks alot
Clarence
You need to persuade 20 people to part with $1000? Good luck!
At the end of the day you will need to convince these people of the value of the product. And is it simply that they can make money, and lots of it? Because the product is over-priced. I've outlined that in this hub article.
All MLM's are the same. It's the hungry sharks who make it big. You really do need to be a salesman, and an outstanding one at that, to get people to sign up or buy. And preferably sign up. Agel had a big chance at the retail aspect but they've leaned towards the sign-up side of the business. There's a lot of talk about working for yourself and making your own hours and the freedom of network marketing, but the ones that do well... they're putting in more hours a week in this "part time opportunity" then what most people put into a job that pays a wage.
Okay, so they've paid their dues, they're reaping the rewards, but there are also those that are putting in the same effort and getting nowhere fast. At least in a job they'd be getting compensated for that effort with overtime bonuses.
It is survival of the fastest.
Stop by http://www.squidoo.com/scam for more information.
You can contact me through that page. I don't publish my email online.
Please someone give me some clariry, my family is really trying to get me into it, I found so many sites to bash it, but then again to promote and validate it, please feel free to contact me on my email smilingrps2@aol.com and give me honest advice, as I am looking to make money (don't we all) but in a secure legitimate way obviously, where I make real money, not feeding the ones on top and me making nothing but sweating to find people to sign up, its expensive after all....Thank you all
Perle, I do believe the answer you seek is in your question.
"It is expensive after all".
How long have your family been doing it? Are they seeing financial rewards? Are they successful? Have they tapped out all the sign-up possibilities in your immediate family?
Darkside, what do you think that the Legendary Randy Gage is back to business and had signed with Agel ?Your attitude towards MLM industry seemed to be biassed - Risk exists in any business whether traditional or MLM business and rewards may not happen even if efforts have been made. It is not an employee contract. not every one succeeds in running a restaurant, for example. Paul Zane Pilzer, a former Ronald Reagan administration's economic adviser seems to be for promoting MLM industry and He predicts a boom in that industry in the next ten years.
islandboy, you seem biased... towards the MLM industry.
Do you have anything to say that finds my thoughts and opinions published in this hub to be incorrect?
Agel have made a big deal about their gel versus pills. And I'm taking a close look at that from a layman's perspective. For the average person does the gel advantage really mean anything? What about the cost? Is it value for money? I don't think so. But people aren't given the chance to think about that, they're immediately distracted with the sales pitch of giving up their day job and living the life they've always dreamed of with far less and more suitable hours.
More often than not the fairytale ending doesn't eventuate.
Well, darkside. If both the gel and the pills were selling at the same price, same quantity. Most people that I've asked would rather take it in gel form.
And I don't know many people who would buy 30 pills in a bottle for eighty bucks.
Say if they were both selling 100tablets/100gel packets, both at $40. Alot of people would probably pick the gel packet
They probably would.
But it isn't.
the problem is, jane, you think agel is selling 1 packet of gel at the price of 1 tablet??
you need to do more market research before telling ppl this, else you are making a fool of yourself.
I don't think Jane actually thinks they're the same price, but the big IF they were.
Which is an illogical illustration. Not sure what point is being proved. Except reinforcing my whole argument about The Cost.
Darkside, i totally agree with you on the cost.
and dumbfuk,you need to learn how to read English or get your eyes fixed, "else you are making a fool of yourself."
I can't find one single non-agel sponsored, user review of agel products.
See, I have spent the last day or so researching everything I can find on Agel, since my friends is about to part himself of a thousand dollars and wanted me to do the same.
Needless to say, my research led me to this page and hundreds more like it, debunking the selling aspect, showing how much money you actually have to spend to make money (yes, money can be made, eventually) but still, no product reviews.
I guess that says something right there eh?
A good link with people who made and didn't make money selling Agel: http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/14_806_0.html
Thanks for your feedback Tera.
I've skimmed through the link you gave me and there's interesting food for thought. VERY interesting. I'll have to have a thorough read of that when I've got a few hours to spare.
I don't give a damn about Agel's compensation plan or their MLM business; but I do care that I've gone from 23 prescriptions a day down to 6, and I'm terminal and my Doctors who are clueless think it's great that the natural ingredients in Agel have been such a great assistance in improving my quality of life for what ever time I have left. And as for the cost, when I look at the benefit who cares.
John, what exactly are you taking?
I guess he's saying that his health has benefited from Agel products, and that's wonderful. I'm glad to hear that. But the thing is that u can get better or the same ingredients for a much cheaper price with other products. Honestly, my guess would be it's about 8-10 times cheaper. For the multi vitamin a.k.a "MIN" it is 10 times cheaper, you can compare it to other comparable products.
But, as long as you're seeing improvement in your health and you're happy and comfortable, it's all good right?
and I wonder where all that money from selling the products x10 more goes to. It's probably much highier than their overhead right now.
Hey John, you wanna come back and explain a bit more? Or is this Agel rep hit and run propaganda?
Not to mention that Agel's seminars are scary. Everyone is smiling and going "I AM AGEL!" but they're not even making 1k in residual income from Agel, or the
"BUY THESE CDs IF YOU WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL"
"ANYONE ELSE DON'T WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL?"
"EVERYONE THAT HAVEN'T BOUGHT THE CD's REMAIN STANDING"
The guy giving the speech was one of their diamond directors, quite popular in agel.
It was very pushy, and if you know almost 95% of people hate pushy people.
It's like they've been hypnotized or something. I've been there. But, the truth is I've also met some wonderful people from Agel that's not so crazy.
I AM AGEL!
You are brainwashed.
I can't imagine why anyone would need either of these products. And this sort of cost is insane - I guess people do buy Agel, but I think if you eat a reasonable diet, it's unnecessary. and da truth is at best insane, at worst not worth respondng to. I admire you for putting yourself out there on a topic like this - you are bound to come in for some flak. :D
I AM AGEL TOO
Hello Mark, I have to totally agree with you.
The latest from the Church of Agel: "Choosing Success with Agel is the only answer."
Introducing the World’s FIRST and only skin care line based on Agel’s breakthrough Gel Suspension Technology: Gentle Daily Cleansing Gel, Refreshing Anti-oxidant Misting Gel, Revitalizing Gel Scrub, Intensive Anti-aging Gel Serum, Age-defying Eye Gel, Daily Moisturizing Gel, Nourishing Night Gel.
I'm thinking that these things are not meant to be swallowed.
Ah yes, and all this can be yours for only 300 bucks.
It's funny, because part of the earlier marketing propaganda was "No pills, no juices, no glasses, no ineffective sprays or creams".
Though it looks as if they removed the mention of "powders", so it must have been after they launched the L-Arginine Powder.
my parents joined agel 5 montsh ago and they are making 5000 a month all ready, it all depends on your mind set. iam 13
It's just like any other business people...
All business have startup and overhead expenses. You'd easily spend more than $1000 if you were starting a new business from scratch and needed to have marketing materials, a website, and product packaging designed. Then you'd still need product samples produced. With Agel you get all that and a system that's been tested and proven to work already. It's simply a business-in-a-box, just like a franchise but without all the restrictions and royalties. Having to buy a few boxes of product per month so you have samples to give to new people is just a cost of doing business.
And just like other businesses, some succeed and some fail. There are people in Agel making over $30K a month and people who aren't even making .30 cents. Why? They all have the same products, the same company support and the same compensation plan right?
The one's that succeed are the one's that get off their butt and actually do something to change their lives. Most won't and that's why they fail. But that really has NOTHING to do with the company, it's products or the business model. It's all about what you do with it. So if you don't succeed at this or any other business, MLM or not, it's not because it's a scam, it's nobody's fault but yours...
darkside are u poor?
Randy Gage, are you Randy Gage?
Why did you start a discussion like this? Please close it.
Don't be silly Mr I-Like-To-Call-Myself-Randy-Gage.
This is a review. If you don't like it, move along.
Reviews like this are affecting my business, and makes me lose money.
Good lord Mr Randy GANG.
Are you saying that facts and common sense are costing you money? Then perhaps you are in the wrong business.
Please, no more posts under the name of Randy. Mr Gage would know how to spell his own surname. All further posts under that name or alluding to that name will be deleted.
Tag, did you read the bit about "The Cost"?
Are you any good at math?
Maybe use a calculator.
Note that Dr. Allen the doctor Agel was so pleased to be associated with is no longer the head of the Medical Advisory Board. They now have a person who actually has a verifiable professional degree and education. Dr. Allen was so pleased because Gel suspension technology from Agel was so much ahead of its time, however she is still selling the "powder" form of her L-Arginine supplement with the various unsubstantiated claims based on supposed research that she has done over 20 years, though none of it was published, kind of like any mention of her education which is still mostly a mystery. If Agel was so incredible, then why didn't they investigate her credentials and claims (that are contradicted by published L-Arginine research) BEFORE they got associated with her??? Their inability to discover this information (which is easily available) does not reflect well on a company who suggests their claims are based on "science" rather than "making money". Of course, just being an MLM reflects badly on that claim.
My friends, do you think these agel people that stupid to hire someone who doesn't even have an education ....(Dr. Allen)
whatever you say or whatever you think AGEL products are increadible, try to use them. once you've tried them ,you'll understand the difference between AGEL and regular vitamins. Cost worth it!!
Someone tried to recruit me into this. I had a right go at them for talking only about making money. The products were secondary to the MONEY you could make by selling them.
To sum up the selling approach:
"Wow. The gels are mighty expensive""But you can easily earn that money back by 'recommending' agel to your friends and family"
Sucks for anyone investing $1000's into their agel business...
That's exactly it. Everything takes back seat to "MAKE LOTS OF MONEY!". From my experience they did initially talk about the PRODUCT. But the whole retail side of it went out the window because they've pushed hard into signing up people, rather than selling to real customers.
It's a clever name though. Agel, a gel, agile. Even looks like a fun product to eat/suck/slurp. But they have some serious problems...
darkside,
I understand you don't care for MLM. The big guys get rich, the little guys get dinked. That's pretty much life on the planet.
Now a big difference in traditional business is that you get paid for your time, but unless you're a superstar or schtupping the boss's daughter, you're going to get COLA increases, and canned when the economy turns south. Ever tried selling your job or willing it to your family?
MLM can work. People do make money, some of them tons, some of them nice little monthly bumps. At one time, 9 out of 10 cars were electric. Then oil discovered in Texas came on the scene, and the internal combustion engine started getting attention. When automatic starters came online and a fueling infrastructure came into existence, they overwhelmed electric vehicles largely because of their superior range and ease of refueling. EVs are starting to fight their way back on the scene, but at one point in time, anyone who bet on gasoline would have been branded an idiot. MLM only appeared in this country in the 1950s, and Amway is still around, still thriving.
Many, many people fail at network marketing. It requires hard work, dedication, a thick skin and teeth grinding persistence. But if done properly, it can provide an independent and passive income.
I have to chuckle when I remember reading the critique of some Utah PhD who was ripping MLM as a scam and a faux business model. His big complaint was that "eventually the market is saturated" and the opportunity vanishes. He then made the point that MLM couldn't be as successful as its proponents claimed, because it only accounted for under 1% of economic activity in the U.S.
How is ANYTHING that accounts for less than 1% of the economic life of this country ever going to saturate the market and smother itself?
MLM can be a viable business model, but it requires a totally different mindset, a decided lack of risk aversion, incredible drive and an intense need to succeed.
Hey, maybe you could accomplish the same thing pushing a boulder up a hill. I just haven't seen anyone make any money doing that.
Aguel does have a unique and effective product. It's got a good comp plan. It doesn't impose a lot of requirements to be eligible for compensation. I bought into an existing distributor position that has 1.2 million units shipping monthly in one leg, and I'm building the other leg. Someone did that work, someone built that volume; and if you look at the downline map, you can see the bodies of those who "died or went into witness protection". Other people stepped up and the volume is real.
The fact is, few people are truly successful and those that are, without the benefit of nepotism, have or have developed the attributes and skillsets that allow them to excel.
I admire the fact that you, at least, have attempted to do the research. I guess we can agree to disagree.
Can we talk about the quality of the product? I purchased some agel min and ohm (about 40 packs of each) from someone who was getting out of the buisness and luckily I paid pennys on the dollar because I didn't notice any differance posative or negative between taking the agel or taking a pill multivitamin. As far as I'm concerned what works best for me are the liquid vitamins, I will say the agel taste much better than the liguid but as far as noticable benafits the liguid wins hands down
For the gentleman that was worried about things like this affecting their business do not worry. The individuals who have perceived knowledge of your business will never be turned so quit trying. Just make sure to pick the right product & company and make sure there are no hidden little secrets.
I am not familiar with the particular products the rest of you are referring to and will not spend the time to learn about them.
However darkside, your post seems to hold the belief that all nutritional products are the same, so everyone should go for the cheapest. You are not doing your body any favors by taking isolated or synthetic vitamins, they are either not recognized by the body or the body needs other co-factors to make use of them. This actually depletes the advantages of the whole foods you eat.
You use the argument that only research paid for by this company was used, they were stupid because there is (finally) plenty coming in from around the world to show this. Besides, where did you learn that multivitamins from the grocery store are just as good -- Did you actually see the research whoever you got this information from used. If so, you saw that it was paid for by the companies that sell them. This is the same with any product so it is really a hollow point. All reserach is paid for, which means that even non profits have to be supported, who do you think shells out the bucks.
You also remarked on the delivery system for the product. I believe it was comparing gel to pill - depends on how and with what they are made of.
The way the body breaks down that which is ingested has a large impact on the amount that has a chance to be absorbed.
The wisest choice is to either make raw, live whole foods, ie fruits, vegetables, nuts, sprouts and greens straight off the plant, the largest part of your diet or find the best supplement on the market especially if the price is great.
The answer I know is coming - Yes
Not on Hubpages - This is an avenue for information
Ps I do have an email address ;-)
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hi dark', as I mentioned to someone via email, who seems to be just getting into the Agel biz (or maybe is already knee-deep in it?), capitalism appears like a bit of a glorified pyramid scheme anyway, so it's somewhat unsurprising that the likes of Agel would seem that way.
BTW; when you eat a fruit or veggie, the leftovers are bio-degradeable... Perhaps the same can be said of Agel packaging?
In any case, I'd hate to one day arrive at a point where we all become dependent on private corporate farms, et al., for our "food". ;D
That said, for fun context, here's a plug for steady state economics.
Tray Lunch says:
2 years ago
Hello,Someone tried to pitch Agel to me the other day, and I was weary from the get-go, because it sounded like a scam. Then I decided to do some research. As it happens, it is a scam. A huge one. It frustrates me the depth that people buy into these MLM schemes, without thinking rationally about it. They don't seem to understand the scheme is not about the product, and it is doomed to fail. They disgard traditional evidence against MLM's, because 'this is different.' It's really frustrating to think of the lack of rational thought involved with these scams.As for the product, it is also a sham when you think about it, as your article cogently points out. Thank you for your research.