Increase your pagerank with automatic backlinks - Don't kid yourself
86I am a big fan of learning by personal experience, and as making money online is a constant learning experience I decided to try a piece of automatic backlink software recently. I was a little wary because I had heard horror stories of google reducing your pagerank, but on the other hand, I also heard zillions of people testify that they would never live without them.
The system I decided to try was Neurolinker and I decided to try it after the owner of the company that makes and sells this product stopped by another hub – Neurolinker and other backlink software, and argued the case for his software. Silly me………..
The horror stories are all true. I must say, neurolinker
does exactly what they promise – you install a piece of script on one of your
pages, and it generates outgoing links by the bucketful in exchange for
incoming links from other sites. Their customer service is excellent and any
queries are answered ASAP and dealt with. But – and this is a BIG but – when
the google bot discovers you are using this service your page rank will be reduced
just as ASAP.
Crap! I had the page rank reduced on all the sites I was using this on and in one case had a -3 penalty applied. Mark was not a happy bunny when that happened.
Still – you live and learn and I have now removed the neurolinker software and written to google explaining my error and asking for forgiveness. If not forgiveness, at least a re-instatement of my previous pagerank. Within two days I had the rank restored to one site and I am hoping the rest will follow suit.
So – in answer to the question, “Can I
increase my pagerank with automatic backlinks,” the answer is a resounding,
“Fuck No!” I wouldn’t touch another service like this with a bargepole and now
have to verify a bunch of sites and do some more groveling. Oh well, now I know.
My gut reaction was to not use this thing and I should have listened to my
inner self. I was seduced by the dark side for just a moment and it cost me. It is important that my blogs are all well ranked by google, because that is how I demonstrate how clever I am. Not feeling too clever at the moment. Fortunately I only experimented and did not add it to all my sites.
This is just another in the long line of learning experiences that go with making money blogging. I am hoping that one day, I will not have to learn anything new…….. Nah – not really, that would be boring.
Edit. After a question in the comments, I have added this. This is where to go if this has happened to you and you wish to resolve the problem:
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35843&hl=en
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Good warning, thanks for the "experiment" results.
My pleasure Misha. :)
Oh Mark, never,never,never link OUT to dodgy sites or sites completely unrelated to your site's niche (unless they happen to be CNN or wikipedia) linking OUT you have to be very careful! Linking in is somewhat different and there are automated tools that help but you have to be subtle - throwing 1000's of links in a few days will upset the big G a LOT LOL
LOL
I know, I know - but now I know because I tried it rather than listening to some one else. I am funny like that LOL
Stupid could be another term for that........
Good lesson learned and shared, Mark! Thank you! You have saved lots of us from that same mistake!
Mark We need to start a 12 step group on Automated Quick Fixes for Internet Marketing. My name is Jon and I am powerless over Gaming Google! LOL btw how is the frying pan novella coming along?
Hi Mark, this was working in the stone age of internet marketing, sorry you fell for it. Have a friend and this guys are real experts on SEO and linking www.Discount-Marketing.com
Hehe,
Thanks guys - I had to try it and see. Now I know. Still no frying pan sales lol
no surprise, there's never any free lunch out there and just like brick and mortar entrepreneurs, internet entrepreneurs need to get there the legit way or they're gonna lose it. good hub dude.
Thanks, Mark, for saving us a big mistake!
Mark, maybe you don't know the the answer to this question, but why is dealing with Google so much like asking for another bowl of gruel from Bumble? It seems like a big weird game of "Mother may I?" and never do understand it. I had ads removed from a hub once because I used the word 'boobs' as tagline. Removed the tag, got the ads back. Am I REALLY that much of a danger to internet society> Are you? I mean, it seems to me like, compared to Huffington Post or the Drudge Report or some site like that, we are all such little, little fish. Why does the Google torment us so?
Hey Pam - yes - problem is that the guys who get away with this stuff - who they are really targeting - go ahead and spend a fortune elsewhere - lol
Oh well - I had to find out for myself. :)
Thanks for the info Mark. Appreciate your sacrificial lamb kind of experiment :)
Hey Mark, I got 3 PR's wiped off my travel blog and I still don't know why, I don't remember changing anything significant. I thought PR3 for a travel blog was reasonable so thought I would just keep doing what I was doing and now I haven't even got a zero just not ranked at all.
Maybe you could point me at where to write and ask why? That's if they even take any notice.
Anyway, hope that makes you feel better.
Hey Brian - thanks lol I have now edited the hub and added a link.
Mark - oops. Still, sometimes the only way to find out whether or not you like something is to actually taste it, no matter how many others tell you that you won't.
I guess I'll go buy one of your skillets.
LOL
Thanks - Get a heavy one that costs a lot to ship. :)
I had a reduction in PR on a site I tested a similar service on. I knew what would happen, but I have to test everything myself.
Nothing beats building up back links from various sources spread out over time rather than some plug-in script.
For instance if you submit articles, do one a week, every week, and use a different deep link each time.
....and for God's sake.....don't expect instant results, sites are updated at different intervals. You may submit to one article site today, PR1, it may take 2 week for the article to be OK'd, then 4 weeks for Google to index it!!
I have site that has its posts indexed within 20 minutes of posting....Google loves me :o)
Fantastic hub man!
Great article Mark. I am a little surprised that you took THAT plunge as I thought you have been doing the internet thing for quite a while, and that you knew to stay away from that sort of thing. I do appreciate your openess and honesty in telling your story. I follow very few people on HP's, but you are one author that I look forward to reading your articles. Bottom line in the whole net marketing thing is that people are looking for information. Search engines are getting smarter in delivering that information. 'Black hat' techniques and tricks are becoming a thing of the past, which is really good for those of us offering real usefull information and products on the net. There are still techniques and things to learn about SEO and search ranking, but we don't want to take shortcuts or try to 'trick' the engines.
As far as PR goes for the average person's site, if I understand it correctly, then I say don't worry about it. It doesn't affect where you show up in a search listing for certain keywords. I can have a PR of zero and still be number one on Google for my targeted keywords. That's not just theory, I've done it. PR is most valuable when it's sites that link to your site. You want high PR sites pointing to you. PR is a lot about traffic numbers.
For the average Joe with a website who wants to make some money with it, my advice is to learn some basic SEO or hire someone who knows it, provide a lot of good content in a niche that you know something about, and you are on your way to selling your product or service.
Thanks Tom,
As I keep trying to tell everyone - I am a writer, not an internet marketer. So - I had to find out for myself if these things work or not. I am still learning the SEO side of things as I go. Fitting it into natural writing is what I am trying to do now.
And I am learning that page ranking and search engine rankings do go together. You are not going to get a PR1 page ranked for a term that has 200 PR4 pages and a bunch of higher ranking sites ranked for it.
But - I would add to what you just said - if you provide good quality content in a niche that is NOT TOO competitive you can be on your way.
Thanks again Mark. I've never heard of Nerolinker before, but hopefully this will be the first and last time I do hear of it!
Mark - I'm glad I came across this article. I will never be tempted again to buy link building software! I've been on the verge of it a couple of times and something's always held me back. Thanks for sharing your experience and I do hope you get your PR's back to where they were!
Many times I have been tempted to take the short route and use software like this. But I am glad I never did, thanks for the warning.
Great hub Mark and thanks for sharing this info. there are no short cuts to success. Its better to be patient.
Thanks Mark!
I was actually considering doing this....
Not anymore.
Thanks!
Very interesting. Is this similar to the Bookmarking Demon siftware Misha was talking about on the forums a while ago?
I'd heard that Google frowns on automatic ANYTHING, so thank you for re-affirming that to me. Every tidbit of information helps!
Thank for sharing your experiences. I really believe learning from mistakes is one of the best ways to learn...especially if you can learn from someone else :)
I have always wondered about the different software out there for creating backlinks. I have done all of mine manually. It takes forever and the results are mediocre. So I can understand the lure of software or a script that will deliver. Thanks for the advice, guess I will keep on plugging away.
Thanks Mark. You've saved many of us from making the same mistakes :)
Thank you Mark. So many of us have learned something from your experience.
I guess you will never know until you try it out , at least you took some action while many just contemplate doing something. And thank you for sharing this , I'm sure you would have helped a few people to avoid this
F*@K No*?
Well I'm sorry you suffered the consequences, but am jazzed as h&## that you told us about it.
* I don't actually care about the language; just thought it was funny.
Wow! Thanks for sharing this. I've always shied away from shortcuts, and now I'm glad I did! Hope this is all resolved for you soon.
Thank you, Mark !
Thanks for sharing your experience Mark. It saved a lot of us from going through the same thing =).
Dittos to all of the above sir I appreciate you scrifice in this and sharing it all. Good O...
If a software can give us automated backlinks that's a very good news.Submitting backlinks manually extremely tedious job, I submitted a few so far.I think Google is afraid of loosing the market of their Adword business,that's why they put penalty on the use of automated backlink software.
Great hub thanks for the info, good to know backlinks automation is bad.
Pagerank....I use article writing and blogging to increase all of my sites rankings....Squidoo works really well also...and I do my own site submissions to engines I know produce....try reading my hub....and interesting site which is making me money....my unique visitors have jumped 200 a day using this method....I found it quite by accident looking for new options for SEO....Great hub!!!
Thanks for sharing and saving us from the same fate. Worth knowing that the big G will sometimes listen to abject apologies and grovelling! I guess the moral is to test out new stuff on just one site and see how it goes before whacking it onto loads of sites and risking a slap.
Thanks mark was thinking about the nurolinker and was unsure of the hole deal thanks for clearing that up !!!!
Well, I was in the process of 'kidding myself' and having fun on 'the dark side' because I just read something about backlinks - and how I need them.
But instead I'll have a glass of wine and calm down and just enjoy writing my hubs - which I really do enjoy doing - and a monthly check is a nice motivator.
Thanks for sharing this info - humor and all!
I know it's not cool to laugh at others' pain, but...well, I'm laughing with you, Mr. Unhappy Bunny. This was a great hub and good secondhand learning experience...glad you shared!
Thanks Mark for saving the rest of us! I have been tempted to try something new myself - my belly dance site is PR4 which sounds pretty good, but in the last few weeks, the search engine traffic has halved. Meanwhile my flamenco site, with a PR of 1, is flying. I don't get this internet marketing stuff. In any case, I now know one thing NOT to try!
Nice.. thanks for the heads up. I'm quite new to this online marketing industry and I am seeing a lot of offers, and i just made my blog. hope to learn more from you guys.. tnx again.
Thanks Mark... I am still relatively a Hub Rookie and I also want my Hubs to rank high in search engines... I am still learning a lot...
Thanks again
Mark,
Excellent post. I frequently jump on something and windup with the short end of the stick. I am sincere in hoping that Google will give you some more mercy. It would be ideal to see them all reinstated, however i doubt that would happen.
Best of luck to you
Jay
Jay's Saving Your Money
Thanks Mark. Sometime ones achievements are fruitful for others. I am in learning stage; therefore, I like it too much. Dear, as you know that it is the right time to enter in internet marketing, therefore, your hub is an educative one.
Good lesson learned and shared, Mark! Thank you! You have saved lots of us from that same mistake!
I thought about doing this, And now Im glad I wont.
There must be some other ways to get people to my site..
I used automaticbacklinks.com for a month and went down to PR1. I was Pr2 for a while...frustrating
Misha says:
3 months ago
Thanks for the info Mark :)