Stock Market (NYSE) Shocking Truth About CitiGroups CitiBank Profits "Quarterly"
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NYSE Citigroup Citibank Quarterly Stock Profits Rise, How Long?
Citigroup quarterly loss of 966 million dollars. You better read citigroups quarterly real close if you want the real truth. You can add another 2.5 billion dollars to the 966 million they claim they lost. Why is this? Citigroup changed their accounting methods in order to show a better than expected loss. When you take into account that they had to change their accounting methods to show they only lost 966 million dollars, you can then see that this number is not correct. Read this report to learn the truth about citigroup and citibank. Quote; Results included a $2.5 billion gain from an accounting rule that allows a company to record a benefit when the market's view of its creditworthiness declines.
As a matter of fact, I am looking at all the financial sectors in after trading and they are all falling. BofA is falling, Wells Fargo is falling, AIG is falling, Citi the same. If this is a sign of opening bell at the Stock Exchange on Wednesday, it's not looking good.
The bottom line truth about citi will not be known until their first 2009 quarterly is released. As soon as the numbers are available, I am going to do the research to find where citibank was really setting as far as profits go, on the day the famous citibank memo was leaked.
I personally believe that this little ploy by citigroups, citibank, will cost millions of investors in the Stock Market, their money. I believe that citibank will pay dearly for this little ploy. I think the only reason they will show a quarterly profit will be because of the added capital from the stock investors, post, memo leak.
The truth is that this has created such a stir in other stocks that I believe the big players will continue to throw money at this cheap stock, in an effort to keep the false hope alive for a few more days. This will draw out more individual investors and get them to invest, then wamm! The market will fall and these new investments will have been sucked up by the big players and the small investor will lose again.
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CitiBank Scandal ?
With the economy in shambles and more Bank failures imminent, CitiBank, a subsidiary of CitiGroup, has (purposely?) leaked a memo stating that they turned a profit in the months of January and February of 2009.
The leaked CitiBank memo from the chief executive of Citigroup, Vikram S. Pandit, said that the bank made a profit in January and February of 2009, and the quarterly performance, before special items and taxes, was the best since the third quarter of 07.
When the news of this leaked memo hit, Wall Street soared and gained over 4 %. CitiGroup stock rose from $1.00 to $1.40, up 25 %. Dow Industrials was up nearly 300 points, at 6,850.
Citigroup continues to climb and is currently trading at 3.15 a share. I am still of the impression that when the reality and facts come to the surface, the citigroup stock will plunge, leaving blind investors holding worthless stock certificates.
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Profit Fever May Turn To Stock Flu
With Stock Investors starving for profit, the news from CitiBank was too good to pass up. But with this news, also came warnings from several analysts. Mike Larson, an analyst who works with Weiss Research, told CNBC “This short rally is nothing different from what we have seen over the last year and a half, and I wouldn’t be chasing this.”
Larson also stated that “This looks like yet another bounce in a long slippery slope downward. The only real gains may be made by those who take advantage of today's rally by selling. "If you were smart enough to buy yesterday and sell today you made a great profit.”
Now, I will give you my take on this situation. If you know anything at all about finances, if you know anything at all about running a business, you will agree with me that this statement is meaningless. How can I say that CitiBank making a profit is meaningless? Let’s take another look at the statement;
The leaked CitiBank memo from the chief executive of Citigroup, Vikram S. Pandit, said that the bank made a profit in January and February of 2009, and the quarterly performance, before special items and taxes, was the best since the third quarter of 07.
Notice the comment, “before special items and taxes.” What are these special items? These “Special Items” are write-downs or better known as “Credit Losses.” Now, you tell me, how many businesses declare a profit before they first figure out all their expenditures and losses? I’ll tell you how many businesses do this, none!
CitiBanks CEO, Vikram S. Pandit, stated in the memo that we have turned a profit, he said this knowing full well that profit can not be determined until all loss factors have been considered.
I sure hope all these citigroup stock buyers understand that as long as housing prices are falling (still to drop at least 30 %) and loan defaults are rising, citibank is going to have to take even more asset write-downs.
This is just my personal opinion, if I had citigroup stock, I would sell it today. I certainly wouldn't hold on to it until the quarterly report comes out.
To further understand why the largest five Banks are failing, I suggest you read this article; "Regulatory reports: 5 biggest banks face huge losses."
Definition of Profit
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Thanks for stopping by issues.
I can still remember watching how the small individual investor would study everything they could find on a company before they would invest a dime. Now it looks like they all depend on the opinion of the Pros that led them to Povertyville. Don't figure?
I think they called that prudent business investing.
Hello issues, "Prudent?" Now, Now, we wouldn't want to make people think they need to actually be responsible. If the investment managers were managing investment portfolios in a legally satisfactory manner a lot of the losses would not have taken place either. But the bottom line is that most of those managers didn't do their jobs. I think the Stock Market has become nothing but a Lottery, and it is not prudent to invest your money in a Lottery. Had these investment managers been honest, they would have pulled the portfolios from the market, but no, they had to play!
This was great information.
Thank you sophie.
It's march 24/09 I was thinking of buying Citigroup stock. It's price is $ 3.00 at closing bell. I was thinking of investing one hundered thousand dollars.I'm one of those people looking to make a easy buck.Now, I'm not to sure. Some of the comments here, make valued points.Maybe, I'll see what the quarterly report sez, before I put my money in.I don't think this company will go out. But it might take quite some time for it to reach a high point again in it's stock price. To make it worth buying.I will try and return here to let you know how it turned out for me.Good luck to you all, with your stock picks.
Hello Robert,
I sure wish you all the luck in the world Robert. From all that I can see, I really think that it could go either way. The little memo trick has certainly added value to citigroup, so they may now show some honest profit in the quarterly, and this will drive it up. But my fear is that this is not an honest condition brought on by a better economy, and in the end this will hit them hard. But like everyone else, this is just my opinion and my opinion sure will not put food on the table. It will make one think a little more hopefully.
Good luck sir,
Robert
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I think this hub is the anti-anti-toxin to anxiety! Help, the verbosity of it is making me anxious!
Hello pkoson
This Hub does not even come close to expounding the things that need to be written about citibank. Some may be so blind that they simply choose to live in the dark, but most people are not so afraid of their own shadow that they remain hidden in the dark.
Thank you for your opinion though.
Robert
Problem is, with these financial comanies, they're financial model is much like a black box, and no outside analyst can completly understand where they're making their money, what their assets are worth, or the liabilies outstanding. Dangerous if you ask me.
Hello again Toronto12,
So true, we will never know the truth, and that's scary. The little we have been allowed to know is bad enough, can you imagine the depth of the unseen skeletons in their closets?
Good day to you Toronto,
Robert
CitiGroup is worse than the Mafia. I wouldn't do business with that company nor with Chase, Bank of America or Wells Fargo. They all have been caught time after time in unethical and illegal practices for which they have been forced to pay millions to settle without going to jail. They have bought legislation in Washington to permit their tricks and traps for unwary customers.
Hello Ralph,
I'm with you, I wouldn't have anything do with the whole lot of them. I often wonder when one of these rotten apples are exposed, how many more were more clever and are still hiding in the shadows? I can remember when years ago all these companies were more user friendly, but it appears that when one grows larger, so does their corruption. This reminds me so much of what eBay has become. Well, maybe when all this scum is exposed and dead and gone we can begin to build again.
Have a Good Night Ralph
Same to you, btbf. Let's start a boycott of the "too big to fail" banks!
I'm all for that ralph.
I have been watching this. Thanks for letting us know this. Any more news about Citibank, yet?
Keep on Hubbing!
I like your article and comment commentary. I just posted on Citigroups proposed $100 million dollar bonus to Andrew Hall. It's crazy talk after $45 billion in bail out funds. I have a linked article on associated content as well.
Hello rsmallory,
Will it ever end? Probably not in our lifetime.
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MSNBC.com Edits Original March 10 Citigroup Article
This morning, March 11, 2009, as I began researching this topic some more, I began to notice that I could not find the original Press Releases about this topic. The articles about the leaked citibank memo had been edited.
What I noticed at the edited Press Release at MSNBC was that they were in such a hurry to edit it, they made some mistakes. What got my attention was citibanks CEO's name. In the original it was written; "Vikram S. Pandit." In the updated version it says; "Vikram Vikram Pandit."
What was changed in these Press Releases was information was added to justify why the CEO said it was profit. But even with these changes, you can clearly see that all losses are not considered in citibanks so-called profits figure.
We will not know the full truth until citibank releases their quarterly earnings report. For the sake of all the common folks who bought into this, I hope I'm wrong.
At the moment citigroup is at $1.55, down from yesterdays after hours trading of $1.58.
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issues veritas says:
8 months ago
Investors don't ever seem to know who is pulling their string. I have thought that today's investors are sheep and they follow whatever is in front of them. Most of the time they don't have a clue, it is stimulus then knee jerk for them.
The day of the prudent investor is gone.